>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.November 4th
Retail Minus.
>his guild cucked him into being a windfury bot
kino or cringe?
If you are a slowie type b boom troon you are getting excluded.AGAIN.Lmaaoo
we need to bring the world back into world of warcraft
The Alliance tankBVLL experience every dungeon btw.
feels good to be a _Priest_
Better get used to see this losers
>>583709186Tank mandigods deserve this.
How fast will the leveling in Forever be?I wanna try all classes but if on release Leveling will take a month per class then i guess i'll just play Warrior and my boyfriend Mage.
Who is the better pvp healer, priest or paladin?
im in
>>583709186I bet this is a prot pala with thorns on him
>>583709186at least we're getting used to seeing something, unlike blessings
>>583709186its ok thorns will be given to the druids dps on logs>>583709305priest
>>583709186What was that, turd? You think I'm going to allow you in my groups as a Prot Paladin? You think any prot warrior will it as well? Better pray a deluded soul is tanking as druid because you ain't getting in
>>583709140What's with the black bars? Looks like the image has been corrupted somehow
>>583709273Very slow, it's about the journey and smelling the flowers.The intended time 1 to 60 is anywhere from 10 days to 14 days /played.Of course some Nazi chuddy exploiter rushoids will get ahead abusing bugs, but we'll fix them shortly after.Punishing them? Well no, that's be unfair!
when is this tournament thing happening
I genuinely can't believe people paid money to play a beta just to literally stay on the sides /bowing to fucking Asmongold.Are these people mentally ill? Who the fuck comes tired from work, opens a videogame and LITERALLY stays on the sides of the Stormwind entrance so Asmongold can walk forward like a king?These people literally worship him and he's getting such a massive god complex. How can people be so pathetic??
Alexensual runs this general
>trannies really think penance will go unnerfed
>>583708683It's vertical solidarity, natural law, and the freedom to cheer for your One True King.Things modernfaggot libshitter retards like you will never experience.
I had a dream that the game bugged out and I somehow aggro'd the entirety of Ashenvale So I'm running to get away from wolves, bears, players, the guards in Astranaar even though I'm a night elf, etcBut I make some distance and then feign death into shadowmeld I think I know what to roll on release, now
>Vanilla>Be warrior>Be best tank>Charge people money to tank>Be best dps>guaranteed raid spot>Roll on leather and mail>No actually get prio'ed on leather and mail>Exclude all other classes>Force other classes to spend valuable time in their lives to be a buff bot, totem bot and regen bot purely for you to make your experience more enjoyable>scale super hard with gear to the point you don't need to think anymore>Eventually kick out other classes as you go to naxx for the coveted 35 warrior group.>Every legendary is effectively only for your class.>Walk outside the raid>Still die to a hunter in pvp
>>583709457>Who the fuck comes home tired from workI would be surprised (actually probably more depressed) if even 10% of that crowd is above the age of 18
Anyone else just not give buffs to random players unless those players can buff you back? Like no I'm not wasting my mana on a warrior / shaman / rogue / hunter / warlock. Ya'll don't provide me shit in return.
>>583709660i buff wariors with wisdom
>>583709586The majority of his fans would have to have jumped on his unapologetic worship train in 2018 or 2019, so it's really their parents fault for giving their 6 year olds money to sub to classic wow and a twitch account.
>>583709660>You haaaaveeee to buff meeeeeNo I don't.
Only blizzard would fuck up the new whimsyfin delight by making it the same as the savory delight. Absolutely retarded
>>583709483priests are the best healers
To be honest there’s a lot about WoWF that just makes me wonder why it necessitated a whole different game, where people would have to start over. I mean do the new game as well if you want, I guess. Plenty of people happy with a fresh start I’m sure. But why keep obvious improvements out of the main game?
>>583709660I never buff br*wns, they must pay for their arrogance.
>>583709660Post hand
>>583709071Its amazing how incompetent the warlock team is at making destruction an identifiable spec. 20 years and they still dont know what they are doing with it
>>583710000Forever IS the main game, lil gulp
>want to play Prot Paladin>can 2 or 3 man farm Strat Undead/Live for gold>can get rank 14 in AV getting full top notch gear as a tank without dealing with guilds>one of the best looking mounts in the game if you're Undead also free mount at 40>can easily pug new raids>not a single brown or pink in the groupHOWEVER>after AQ40 rolls around a guild is needed>playing a tank in raids is extremely boring and nigh impossible to get a spot in>huge demand for consumables aka a huge gold sink every raidMy other option is warlock but it's also incredibly boring in raid unless I play Affliction and it's absolute ass. What do, bros?
>>583709586Its WoW dude, nobody below the age of 25 is playing this game. Its the ultimate boomer game
>>583708683young men are easily radicalized because the us education system has been destroyed. this is actually why.
>one megaserver>seperated by 4 layers>which are each individually separated by 1000 layersthis is retarded and ruins the game
>>583710000>why it necessitated a whole different gamebecause the dev destroyed the lore and setting in retail, it's a dumpster fire>why keep obvious improvements out of the main game?main game has too many interacting systems and is likely vibecoded to shit
>>583710171this isnt tranilla. the news raids will have trinkets and weapons that you will want for pvp.
>>583710171who says AQ will be 40
>resto druid is the only fun healer>won't be invited to raids
>>583710000czekd
>>583710171>play prot to get preraid bis easily by excluding all the competition>switch to dpssimple as
>aq40someone tell blvd
>>583710392>because the dev destroyed the lore and setting in retail,and they'll do it again, one Stickney elf race a year. or perhaps even every month
Is it for real that they're already thinking of adding high elves and blood elves in the future? So we'll end up with three (four if you count sky elf factions as separate) identical elf races? That can't be right
you now miss 40 man raids
Can I play Wow Forever with a controller?
>>583710264Let me live in my fantasy world where thousands of grown men arent debasing themselves for some grifter streamer
>>583710447But resto druid only becomes fun with lifebloom?
>>583710690yes, a quelthalas patch is confirmed
playing prot warhorde? alliance? pve? pvp?thoughts?
>>583710690Only four?
Are we just not linking last threads now?
>hybrid tax>only applies to classes that can heal and dps>doesn't apply to top tank and top dps
>no double swing animation on wf procsYup, druid it is
>>583709660It's part of the priest's roleplay to help the unfortunate, so I'll help you, brown letters
>>583710852last versions are supposed to be forgot, now enable your HD textures
>>583710690>Blud don't know about the sanlayn class coming
>>583710117For PvE maybe. Theres some disgusting burst potential in that tree for PvP. I'm talking tank oneshot territory. And its easy as fuck to set up.
>>583710664I saw stickney is on forever yeah so it's also doomed, but I expect it to take a little longer this timeI'm surprised these people arent fired, must be a hell of a union
>>583710782>playing prot warsorry to hear that
>>583710690The shit elves were designed to give both factions the blood elf model and solve this elf question once and for all. Ideally making it so that any future race can be something more original than another fucking blood elf recolor Though with them being so greedy I wouldn't put it past them if they want to sell "real" blood and high elves for another 30 buckaroos in a future patch
>>583710690Bro if they didn't add them now to spike the hype for Forever, which is essential to get it off the ground RIGHT NOW to make it the literal forevergame that they promised their shareholders (thence the name), why would they add them later? When the game starts dying because it doesn't have high elves? If that was on their minds they would have done it a decade ago.
>>583710472>Play Prot>Only invite clothies and rogues>"Mind if I roll need for off spec?" whenever dps gear drops
>>583710779lifebloom made gameplay boring as fuck because youre just spamming that in raids.For pvp it was good because you get a heal off it being dispelled atleast so a priest/shammy cant shut you down by just spamming dispell like a retard.
>Approachable and Familiar>When reimagining the PvP system, we wanted to keep the design pillar of “Approachable and Familiar” firmly in view: simplifying the original Honor System while staying true to its roots.>Progressing Through the Ranks>In World of Warcraft: Forever, PvP progression has two parts: Honor and Rank Points>Honor>Honor is a currency players earn through taking part in PvP content. This includes defeating other players, completing battlegrounds, and finishing relevant PvP quests. Players also earn increased Honor in highlighted battlegrounds during their holiday weeks. As part of these updates, we reviewed Honor gains across battlegrounds so acquisition rates are more consistent across the board. We want players to enjoy the full range of battleground maps without feeling compelled to choose Alterac Valley solely for Honor efficiency.>Rank points>Rank Points come from PvP activities such as battlegrounds and relevant PvP quests, with holiday-week battlegrounds offering an additional boost. As players earn Rank Points, they advance through familiar PvP ranks from original World of Warcraft, working toward the ultimate titles of High Warlord for the Horde or Grand Marshal for the Alliance. Ranks have a weekly cap, retaining the foundation of the original system while making the journey more accessible. (1/2)
>>583710852This one was made by our resident schizo so who knows he probably has something against linking past threads
>>583710754This so much this, but applied to this too
Looking forward to hardcore.https://youtu.be/pIA9ecyt0Hg
>>583710171there wont be 40 man raids outside of onyxia
>>583710992just get tier .5
>>583711023>Gearing Up for Battle>Honor can be used to purchase two sets of PvP gear: one blue-quality set and one epic-quality set. The epic set requires the blue piece plus an Emboldened Seal to upgrade it, and Emboldened Seals have rank requirements players must reach before purchasing. There are also new and reworked items to fill gaps for specializations that were previously missing options. For example, Shaman now have healer, melee, and caster PvP gear sets they can acquire.>PvP Seasons>During a PvP season, players can progress through the ranks and earn Honor. Each season also includes a journey with weekly tasks to complete. Successfully completing those tasks grants Honor and Rank Points, and three tasks each season also grant a Legacy Point. Completing these tasks is part of the seasonal journey, and because they are tied to the Legacy System, they remain available to complete in future seasons. (2/2)
>>583710442All the good gear raids will be 40 man.10 man will be entry baby raids.20 man will be midcore raids.Like in wrath!
>oh you don't like asmongold>you must actually like gay pride parades
>>583710978Alliance blood elves were added a decade ago though.
>>583710782if you plan on doing pvp horde you better get your character in the moment it launches because that shit is locked for 1month+
>>583710943How is it taking longer lolRetail wow took until it's 7th expansion to TRULY start shitting up the old lore in a vindicative fashion. Skyelves show that they're going to do it on release this time. You'll get nuArathi and nuHarranir by 2028 at the absolute latest.
>>583710978>When the game starts dying because it doesn't have high elveslol. lmao even.
High Elf men and Blood Elf men fight each other to give Human men and Orc men rimjobs.
>>583711023>>583711162does this mean pvp ranks are just moderate time commitments instead of life destroying humiliation rituals? will I seriously be able to get r14 just from playing a couple hours of BGs every week, consistently, for maybe a month or 2? holy fucking shit
>>583711291it shit it up with cataclysm onwards
>>583710978the faction balance will be raped because nobody wants to play dwarf shaman so blizzard boils the frogs a bit then releases another pretty race that can be alliance shaman and people will eat it up
>>583710992Have to be careful with the cloth users depending on what you're after. Rings / Trinkets / Weapons are all spell caster items for prot paladin. Best bet is to rogues, druids, warriors, and hunters as dps.
>>583711347It's not just couple of hours, but essentially yeah.
how does transmog work with class specific things? I assume things like class sets can't be used across different classes? what about mounts and the collection system? If I unlock a mount on one character, does that mean that specific mount is also usable by every other character I make (on that faction)??
>>583711023>>583711162It's over pvp is ruined it's all casual shit now. It's absolute bullshit how players can avoid raiding and still get good gear, who the fuck is gonna carry me now????
>>583710171This isn't fucking classic, you retards need to stop thinking this is going to be like classic.Endgame gear has a stat squish to combat power creep which is a major part of the "horizontal" progression. We aren't getting shit like the jump between MC to Naxx.They're focusing on 10 and 20 mans with 40 mans being the easiest of the three, tard wrangling 40 people in bis isn't happening. 40s will be like Onyxia.
>>583711294I meant that sardonically. The point is it's either a non-factor in their minds and therefore they're happy making all the other flavors of elf that they want to satisfy their transbian writers, or if it were a factor in their business model they would've done it immediately to boost hype.
>>583711440Woops meant ret paladin. Most of the skills scale with spell power and intellect. It looks like holy shock will be better than seal twisting.
>>583711440>Druids, Warriors and Hunters who will roll need on my 2H weapons
>>58371123120 is the new raid size they just dodged the crying for removing 40 mans by having onyxia at launch
>>583710000the lore of retail is irreparably damaged and it has most the "obvious improvements" ARE the problem, there are so many that are detrimental to what an MMO is that it is simply easier to start fresh than to try and cut out the tumor and killing the host in the process
>>583710909sovlless
>>583711450well we can deduce from that image, 750 for rank 1, 24750 for rank 14. rank points are separate from honor points, and considering there are "pvp quests", its safe to assume rank points might be easy to earn, so long as you do your dailies/weeklies/however the fuck they organize it.
I want a beta key just to get all settings and addons set up so I can go straight to leveling at launch
>>583711541
Baron Rivendare is the coolest 5man boss.
>>583711291They went off course in the second expansion. WotLK was a good course correction but it went to shit right after in Cataclysm.
thread themehttps://files.catbox.moe/invu8p.mp3
>>583711291I bet it's clear for the team that nu-writing will kill their paycheck nowbut maybe im too optimistic, we ll see, worse case scenario we're back to private servers
>>583711609can we stop pretending to care about the lore? past wotlk no one cared about it any longer
>>583711598Not on your 2h spell power maces and swords. Well maybe druids, might have to exclude them and stick to warrior / hunter / rogue. Fortunately there's millions of them desperate for a party because no warrior or druid tank will take them.
>>583711598hunter is dw bis
>>583711374You need to learn to understand the difference between what old WoW did wrong out of laziness and indifference, and what nuWoW writers are doing out of malice. If you can't do that, this conversation has no meaning.>>583711436Yeah bro and that nu race? Night elves that existed before night elves and look slightly like trolls. It won't be high elves.
>>583711248Sadly Assmongoloid has 40000 mouthbreathing guild members and its very obvious when they start posting here during peak american hours
demonology rotation sounds clunky and using a pet sucks if they aren't giving us avoidance. might be worth just using a less dps spec that's less annoying to play
There were no good WoW expansions. The only reason tbc was tolerable was because of arena.
>aggrend and the devs are considering adding high elves>metzen tells them to be more creative>high elves, but bluebravo
>>583711790LMAO
>>583711764Only if we can stop pretending you're a real woman
THE LIVING ARE HERE!
>>583711913but they are literally called high elves in the game by everyone but the blue elves themselves
>>583711902This is why forever is based off of vanilla.
https://youtu.be/ig95zXJTSGUOH NO NO NO NO
>>583711913It is quite creative. Literally add High Elves but not actually.
>>583711801the new elf cannot be shaman on alliance
>>583711541>>583711646god dammit blizzard
>>583709071I'm not in a guild. I tried out shaman and found it fun so I play it.
>>583711913I still feel like the skelves are either some Jew's fault or some troon's fault and Metzen is just a fall guyIf it really is his fault though I will never forgive himHigh Elves were such an easy win but he shit it away for generic retailslop
yurowagies go to bed youre lagging the server
Why did the Highborne and all their offshoots become manlets anyway? Is this your body on mana?
>>583712039>ai slop thumbnailkill yourself
>>583712039best wow player/streamer ever
>>583709660i only buff the chinese and koreans because i like asians
>>583711646>>583711541Is there any game you guys DON'T use to pretend you're women?
>>583711646>>583711541>new game has physics removed
>>583712005They're not Night elves, they're not mana addicted junkies of Kael'Thas, so only race they could be is High Elf to the untrained eye. Nobody knew they even existed. Al'Akir didn't know they existed in his own plane of existence.
where the fuck is the goon material
>>583711893Good. That's how it should be.
Am i retarding in thinking of maining a Prot FemNElf warrior?
>>583712181>self inserting instead of being a god-like entity controlling a character
>>583712121>Metzen is just a fall guyMetzen is a jewish troon. The second he had a daughter he turned into the biggest beta male loser.When met get daughters they start pushing left and loving bbc like crazy.
>>583711893demo is a meme anyways you will sac like always
>>583711541W change.Means less agp troons on the server.
>shadowbolt SFX raped>shadowbolt DMG rapedthe great rapeningthe long rapegegrim
>>583711764>can we stopneck yourself idiotMoP and Legion were basically capeshit and they were still better than Wrath and TBC writing, putting the cutoff point at WotLK doesn't distinguish you as anything other than that you were 10 years old when starting WoW and therefore had possibly played TFT before vs the kids who picked up WoW when they were 8.OOH congrats you were a slightly older kid when you started and you liked shit that was colored the same as a work of art instead of just liking shit. WOW! Such a high brow distinguished scholar!
>>583712379I have no idea what that even means, so nice self report
>>583712309Race actually doesn't make any difference. All racials are just flavor.
>>583711601>She doesn't knowLoL
>>583712309>FemNElf warriorWHEWWowyers got raped so hard they're turning into women.
>>583712309>maining a Prot FemNElf warrior
>>583712079you're not following the conversation>>583712121skyelves have stickney written all over them, in blatant blue paint
I've played a druid and warrior to the mid teens in the beta, played a caster druid in classic a while back but never tanked. Also never played a paladin. Between warrior, paladin, and druid which will feel relatively straightforward tanking dungeons? Not necessarily the strongest but competent in the content to not be a hassle for the team. I'm not too concerned with raiding, not sure if I'll ever do it and I'm planning on maining dwarf shaman anyway so I can always just bring that to experience raids.
>>583711601each tier will have 10, 20 and 40 :^)
>>58371123140s will be the single boss raids like Ony, Mag, Gruul. 10 and 20 for "assaulting a place"
>>583711347It's really truly over. We need sweaty brackets back not this casual garbage.
>>583712339Same happened to pilav
>>583712379Broke dick farms broke dick tranny.
>>583712445Exactly. The animations and lore are GOATed, but they looks worse than Human Male>>583712476>>583712479Low test
>>583712579god I hope not
>>583712639"Low test" said the tranny
>>583712540Druid is most straightforward but not great at keeping AoE threat
What are the length limits for first and last name?
Do the pre-dungeon elite mobs have the same nerfed exp as the ones in the dungeon? What’s stopping people from grinding them?
>>583712678I accept your concession
>horde are the soviet unionyou have to a such a cuck to play alliance then
>>583712005Tyrande correctly calls them highborne and shen'dorei, as she was around when they were rebeling in Eldre'Thalas. The other races just don't get the difference between them and Thalassian elves.
>>583712773>What’s stopping people from grinding them?Shared spawns, obviously
Ahem...
>>583712309Don’t listen to the others, anon. Female nelf warriors are sick. Their animations are some of my favorite too, especially the staff melee attacks.
>>583712804And apparently neither do the marketing and cinematics team that call them high elves. It'd be better if Thrall and the other leaders just call them "elf".
>>583712839Just fight for tags like people have for decades in games like EverQuest and Final Fantasy XI.
WoW should just remove playable foid characters completely. Pozzed dick in the ass company. TRUE
>>583712983>fight for tags>aoe ?just solo quest bro
>>583713035Nah, soloing is the faggiest nigger garbage ever added to MMOs, why pay $15 a month for a singleplayer game?
>>583712943marketing may be trying to actually sell the game thoughbeit, unlike the writers
>>583713108>why play the game when I can grind the same mob for 16 hours straightreally great take anon, keep it up
>>583712943Yeah I was flabbergasted in that skyborne lore video they just put out. Either that team literally doesn't know the difference, or they are purposely muddying the water so as to say "we aren't adding typical high elves." And I do understand it somewhat. There are basically a handful of high elves left after 90% of the survivors chose to be Blood Elves.
>>583712885holy shit the dwarf bodied that freak/salute
>>583712540>Between warrior, paladin, and druid which will feel relatively straightforward tanking dungeons?Id say druid is the easiest to play.For druid you put thorns on yourself and then spam swipe while auto attacking, then you spam primal bite on single target.
>>583713017real .only AGPers play as women
>>583712460>>583712563>thundaraan is the next single boss 40 mannew and amazing content boys
>>583713179If I wanted to play a singleplayer RPG I’d boot up a singleplayer rpg, all content in MMOs should be group content.
>>583713249See, this is why they should have added High Elves and had them start at Northshire. They would be a refugee race like the Gnomes. Decimated population reliant on a stronger ally.
>>583712792When your choice is between soviets or anything else, you pick anything else.
>>583713341Then group quest?
>>583712773Nothing lmao.Hyperspawn aoe farming is going to be the meta.Hope you are ready to exploit it and get way too ahead of the pack.
>>583713319Thunderaan seems to be what might have been hiding Skyborne, potentially as a long term coup attempt on Al'Akir.
>>583713249>There are basically a handful of high elves left after 90% of the survivors chose to be Blood Elves.That's TBC lore and not applicable. Forever could have put that ratio anywhere they wanted, they just chose not to.
>>583711023>>583711162Looks...okay I guess. I don't like the honor is a currency stuff but wcyd. It's still basically just grind pvp in a week, reach cap, every week, and you'll slowly advance. I like that the pvp grind is an endurance match, not a """skill""" based advancement system.>>583711347God I hope so. I enjoyed being able to raid in my full rank 14 set, gonna do the same thing in forever. I was the only warrior in my guild that did the grind, and I suspect most pve players on the rp server i plan to play on won't either since it's not 100% BiS.>>583712586Nah, fuck the old pvp system. I don't like some of the changes they've made for forever (I would have preferred the Anniversary system getting copy/pasted), but the bracket system with rank points and an arms race honor grind was literally pure misery. The only people going >muh meaningful journeyfor the old pvp system never actually did that grind.
So what's the new build/way of playing you are hyped for?>pic related, Lone Wolf Sniper Shot Hunter for open world leveling and pvp
>>583713403What are you supposed to do in between the scant few group quests, you nigger tranny honkey?
>>583712479For how much they complain about others not accepting their genders, sexualities and chosen neopronouns, trans people seem to be extremely dismissive when it comes to the sexuality of normal people.
>>583713341>all content in MMOs should be group content.Dumb take. I want to quest alone with other people present. You know, do my thing. They do theirs. There's a silent social aspect to it that I really like in MMOs
>>583713378Culturally, there is so little difference between High Elves and Blood Elves. But I suppose just slapping them in Northshire could work? Horde still needs a pretty race though, what would you have added for the release 5th Horde race?
>>583712479not gay but wood if no one found out
>>583713570You’d get this exact same experience with bots.
>>583713454kek its actually going to be blue ragnaros turned into a raid
>>583713570Play retail.
>>583713587Ogres or Goblins. Easy
>>583713494can't control the pet eh? its really not that hard
>>583713570lol what the actual fuck
>>583713475Arthas killed a metric fuckton of the elves but I guess the percentage can be anything.Is Kael'thas coming home not in WC3? He just goes missing after failing his mission?
>>583713341Wasn't Everquest all group content basically? Then WOW copied it, made it more solo friendly, and over the years gradually even moreso until grouping became a bad thing
>>583713494>my build comes together at 40>my build has a 15s cooldown>my build also assumes i have space to kite backwards
Who was in the wrong here?
>>583713475I seem to recall it was in a Warcraft Encyclopedia before TBC came out or was in the works. I wouldn't even know how to check that though. The 90% of the surviving High Elf number, I mean.
>>583713649No I wouldn't because I'd know they're bots. At least with PCs I can reasonably believe a human is piloting it (subject to bots obviously). You don't get IT unfortunately>>583713693Fuck off nigger. God classic and retail tribalists alike piss me the fuck off>>583713728Your mom fag
>>583713510group questing is perfectly viable, boostfag
>>583713587Either actual Blood Elves or Darkfallen. High Elves could lean more towards their ranger archetype by having the playable ones come from the various HElf lodges in the world, while Blood Elves keep the snootier magic archetype.
>>583711023literally all they had to do was make rank only decay if you didn't pvp>kill a single guy>you gain 1 (one) rp and are safe from decay for the weekthat's itsweaty fucks can camp level 50s and get HW/GM in a month and everyone else can slowly and steadily work at it over like a year
>>583713487>for the old pvp system never actually did that grind.I just posted a picture from my av premade grinds tho
>>583713818In Classic nobody does the solo leveling niggerdry because dungeons are better.
Give sky elf shamans to alliance already. i don't wanna play dw*rf
>>583713836pirate
>>583713708You really think the horde would have population numbers with a pretty race? The entire reason blood elves got on horde was because chinese and Koreand refuse to play "monster races."
>>583713510Do regular quests in groups so you don't have to fight for tags you obtuse retard
>>583713986mostly because fighting for tags is some subhuman gameplay
>>583713981Well your opinion doesn't count, some of us have to work and can't afford to miss 2 months of work to grind R11-14
>>583713587Why do we need to keep having this conversation? It doesn't matter. It hasn't mattered in the last 20 years and it doesn't matter even now when Forever is coming out. All the new races added to the game will be like the arathi, earthen, haranir, niffen, etc. Great Replacement races so that "we" can "finally" move on from old stinky chud male dadgamer WoW and forward to retail WoW diversity, "the way it should've been from the very beginning"
>>583713879>>583714020You get less than 50% exp per kill in a full 5 man from regular mobs. Brainless tranny cocksuckers.
>>583714003Oh i thought we were talking about actual good race inclusions and not bending to elffag normies. Fuck chinks. Horde is supposed to be the monster faction
>>583713341>all content in MMOs should be group contentThey tried that with wildstar. I actually really like wildstar's classes and how they tried to balance the game, the problem was they wanted to target the hardest of the hardcore without giving them enough reasons/content to leave wow for it while alienating the casual players, making no one happy.
Druid is fun but I'm worried it won't scale at 60do I just commit to it and let the chips fall where they may or do I plan to level an alt like a warlock or warrior? but then when would I switch from the druid? aaaahhhh
>>583714003The factions would be balanced outside of asia, maybe slightly alliance favoured due to most female players needing pretty girl avatars.We all know blizzard will never stop pandering to asia though
The Four Elfmen of Apocalypse.Night elves, Blood Elves, Sky Elves, High Elves.
>>583713986in actual vanilla when they didn't cram 100,000 subhumans on the same server almost everyone leveled solo with an occasional group
The turbo life ruining pvp grind should be for a title, locking pvp gear behind it is retarded.
>>583714152>We have 5 people so we should all kill the same mob 1 at a timekeep them coming!
>>583713883Well there's like 3 lodges cause they're so few in population size, but I get your meaning. They would have to create additional high elf nature lore, but I would appreciate it. Just not enough naturalist high elf stuff currently.
>>583713587Give the horde a banshee/ghost race that quests alongside the regular forsaken. That’s your pretty race.
>"NOOOO!!!!! I wont be special anymore!!!! It's not enough to succeed, others must FAIL!!!!!!"pvp sweats in absolute shambles TOP FUCKING KEK
>>583714152I almost always just do duos and I'm doing the quest for the xp, not killing the mobs for xp, dumb worthless faggot
Catering to chinks that have to have their abominations censoredTaiwan number 1
I'm nervous about what they're going to do with the Skelves, brosAs someone who is slated to play Male Skelf Resto Shaman...
>>583714196Always bet on Druid
>>583714196In vanilla they scaled like shit in pve, but it only mattered in raids anyway.They were still upper mid tier for pvp all the way to naxx.Things are likely going to be better for them now too
>>583713772Kael never comes home and TFT doesn't even have an epilogue screen like Brood War did, which I think was a mistake because I didn't even know Illidan survived his fight with Arthas.
>>583713718>>583713835>t. never played low/mid level hunters made specifically for open world pvp while levelingIf you actually did you wouldn't reveal yourselves as the midwits you are
>>583714342What do you mean?If anything it sounds like they might do SD models, but people will still have the choice between one or the other
>>583714307Actually, after the Forsaken Kingdom campaign, maybe you're right. Should have been Darkfallen elves.
>>583714326If mobs didn’t give exp you wouldn’t be able to level past 10, stupid fucking nigger.
>>583709478What norwood is Alex?https://files.catbox.moe/lykzp2.mp4
>>583711023dear blizzard, please separate premades from pugs in bgs, thank you blizzard
>>583714437>If anything it sounds like they might do SD modelsOK. What does that look like? Original Nightelf recolor? Early TBC Belves? Something new entirely?
>>583713986Thiiiis.How I, the solo leveler, can compete vs dungeon chuds?Like, I fight for tags, lose to a wolf then imagine myself getting knotted and I just have to go get my knotty toy!
>>583714542>What does it look like?We don't know yet, but if it turns out to not look great you still have the HD models which, relative to the other races HD models, look fine
>>583714539>premades are priority filled into BG's with other premadesDo this.
>>583714503reminds me of army ration review guy for some reason.. wish he did a proper review...
>>583714491Do (You) really think you should get full mob xp in a group, double-nigger?
pvp changes what do we think?
>Balance druids are now mandatory to bring to every dungeon for thornswhy is this allowed
>>583714430i have played hunter on pvp servers in actual vanilla and both classic and anniversarybeastmastery rapes every single class in the game during leveling because the pet has absurd stats and becomes immune to literally everything at 40 and has a 3s stun at 30
>>583714659I agree. If I'm dissatisfied with the Skelf SD model, though, I hope I can toggle HD solely for the race, and have everyone else's remain SD :/
>>583714542vanilla's high elves with customisation options and shorter so that they don't intimidate me
>>583714724Nice hiss.
>>583714734Why shouldn’t they? It’s a multiplayer game, why does the game punish you for playing it in multiplayer? Oh right, because they were catering to fucking trannies like you.
>>583714746You made fun of the chicken, now its the chickens time to shine.
>>583714664Do you even play ?
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24303316
I'm trying to decide whether I will main a Tauren Shaman or Undead Priest. I might also go Alliance and play a Dwarf Shaman but I prefer the aesthetics of the Horde over Alliance. Dwarf Shaman would probably have the smoothest end game experience but what about between the Tauren Shaman and Undead Priest? I'm not going in with a guild so I'll have to figure it out while I go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25OUcd3VM1c
>During a PvP season, players can progress through the ranks and earn Honor. Each season also includes a journey with weekly tasks to complete. Successfully completing those tasks grants Honor and Rank Points, and three tasks each season also grant a Legacy Point. Completing these tasks is part of the seasonal journey, and because they are tied to the Legacy System, they remain available to complete in future seasons.
>>583713570I support this sentiment.>three other replies ridiculing this postThe fuck happened with 4chan, seems like we have massive cultural problem from all the newcomers
>>583714825The approved way to play is that you QUEST.yoi do NOT DO DUNGEONS.YOU DO KOT AOE FARM YOU DO KOT GROUP.YOU FUCMING QUEST.AND YOU DONT ECLIDE ME.YOU SEE ME YOU INVITE ME.IM THE MAIN CHARACTER.ME.IF YOU DONT AHREE YOU ARE A NOOSYER NIGGER
>Carry Offered
>Rank Points come from PvP activities such as battlegrounds and relevant PvP quests, with holiday-week battlegrounds offering an additional boost. As players earn Rank Points, they advance through familiar PvP ranks from original World of Warcraft, working toward the ultimate titles of High Warlord for the Horde or Grand Marshal for the Alliance. Ranks have a weekly cap, retaining the foundation of the original system while making the journey more accessible.PVPERS IN SHAMBLES
>>583714758they adjusted pet damage/scaling downwards for forever, correct?
>>583714283YeahAs much as I like the Night Elves they took a bit of that naturey ranger stiff from the High Elves, which shunted them towards the magic aesthetic that later also became shared with the Blood ElvesBut I think if they lean more towards the mixed Greek amd Korean/Asian inspiration with Night Elves and their architecture, the High Elves can take back quite a bit of their Celtic inspirations. Get more runes in there. It would also help the magic addiction plotline, by having the more Celtic inspired High Elves using nature and runes to help sate it, which in turn would also fuel their disdain towards Blood Elves for turning to demon siphoning
>>583714974Do every dungeon for a free 1.5 level and loot. You can AoE grind but just 4 mobs, which isn't that bad. The weakness is if you actually get a 4th mob, so i can understand that.
>>583709071>browns seething when they are the best class by a mile again>retarded meme spec hunter is incredibly strong, and the real specs are trash>casters universally trash>of course paladin is a god dps, and will be the god tank, and probably the best healer tooincredibly grim
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-pvp-progression-in-world-of-warcraft-forever-works/2375129Blizzords do not like forever pvp changes
>>583709071destro isn't worse than affliction in current beta build
so what tank has the lowest gear competition?its warrior right?
>>583714664premades always find a way to game the system
>>583714746
I want a slut nelf wife
>>583715189they'll bitch about fucking anything
>>583714867Do you?
>40,000 applicants to the pvp tournament>All HordeSurely Blizzard won't be able to keep ignoring the racial problem after this. The whole tournament is going to be a giant glowing neon sign showcasing how broken horde races are rn.
It's 19:00 GMT and there's still no Onyxia Raid pug on my eu era server, you fuckers lied to me, how am I supposed to wipe a raid group by getting hit by onyxia's tail into a bunch of whelp eggs as I attempt to enter her twisting nether without any raid pugs?
>>583714741its the same shit, you either pay attention and play AV or play AB and afk at a flag
anyone else already bored with forever?
>>583715359>anyone else already bored of being capped at level 30 with literally nothing to dobait
>>583708857>warrior has to press 500 buttons to do the same damage as a ret paladin with a passive seal ongrim
>>583715193>forced to play pet specyoikers
>>583715189>very first post calls out the angry nolifers before they even postBased.
>>583715221do black people really?
>>583714825>>583714974What the fuck is wrong with you retarded faggots?>Why shouldn’t they?Because it's harder to kill solo so you can either solo it and max XP OR you can group and share XP. What the everliving fuck could your retarded chimpanzee brain not understand about that?>It’s a multiplayer game,It's a game with multiplayer in it>why does the game punish you for playing it in multiplayer?It's not punishment you obtuse homo. It's called fairness>Oh right, because they were catering to fucking trannies like you.Yeah yeah fuck you and the retarded dog you call your mother ya fuckin freak
>>583715149I've changed my mind. Probably should have been this and Darkfallen for the Horde. I do still like Skyborne lore, but boy oh boy, what a can of worms they opened.
>>583714078To be fair the only fun part of it was the community. We had a fairly organized server with people obeying brackets for the duration of my grind (I think it got worse afterwards), so once AV came out and premades were possible, I could finish the week's grind by friday. The pre-BG time was honestly a complete mess and I wouldn't wish that on anyone anymore even though I was on the winning faction. But we had some good times in AV premades until they were killed and I was forced to move to WSG for 2 weeks.Wouldn't be the same on a megaserver.
>>583715359Nope, I'm having a blast
>>583714892If you will heal shamans always have a smooth endgame.
>buy a monster slaying game>choose to play as a monsterYou can't make horde players up
>>583715439>do black people really?season they drains? yes they do.
>>583715102This is a good middle ground, you can get PvP gear by doing PvP and you don’t need gold for the gear, and you don’t just spam BGs to get fully geared in a day. It’s the best of the honor point system and the PvP rank 14 system.
>>583715034No more boosts!They are quest carries now :)
>>583715419what buttons? heroic strike memeing isnt even in the game anymore
How will horizontal progression work in pvp? Are you going to get gear on level with raid gear from pvp or are you going to want raid gear for pvp?
>>583715297most underrated one is touch of the grave. The lifesteal especially as warrior is really noticeable. I'm not complaining though I think its a cool thematic having undead be mini lich blood dks.
>>583715196Warrior will compete with all of the other melees for gear, be it twohanders or onehanders. They will compete with other warriors and paladins for plate and shaman for mail pieces. Paladin same issues. Druid will compete with hunters, rogues, shamans for armor for feral/tank set and will compete with casters for caster/healer armor and weapons. No one is free from competition so just play what you enjoy the most.
Do warriors and paladins even compete for gear any more?All paladins want spell damage, right?
>>583715456>I do still like Skyborne loreyou're exactly the kind of twerp who went along with retail writing shitting over itself during DF and TWW because you desperately crave to feel a positive reaction about something in WoW's lore developmentThere isn't any. There won't be any. Not as long as it's the same crew of morons running their "democratic" writer's room.
The alliance rogue lockpicking quest is currently impossible to complete, there's 3 spiders that spawn on the chest you need to loot, but because of hyperspawns they instantly respawn the moment you kill them, you can stun 1 but there's 3 of them so there will always be at least 1 attacking you, even if you get to a level to 1 shot them they INSTANTLY respawn
>>583715193I think they just forgot to add new ranks for wrack because there's only one rank of it you get at 40. A drain life build beats wrack at the moment.
When Alex speaks, I listen.
>>583715743it'll probably be obvious if a piece of gear is for paladins or warriors in raids or dungeons
>>583715450Why would you ever group when you get more exp from solo play? They catered the game to antisocial autistic retards who can’t cooperate, and then those retards became trannies.
>>583715781how come you didn't buy gold, level engineering and drop a training dummy
>>583715483It's just that I've always played Tauren Shaman in the past. I wanted to try an Undead Priest for a change of pace. I'm also intrigued by the supply and demand that will favor Dwarf Shamans in raids and I've never played Alliance before. I just don't want to deal with frustration at end game finding spots.
>>583715781ask a warrior to help tank the spiders for youit's ok, keep the gold, we can take payment in getting our cocks sucked
>>583715419Hybrid tax :^)Suffer, brownoid sissy.
>>583715196Warlock tank when they add it, mages and priests don’t need +stam +armor +defense gear.
>>583715882>Why would you ever group when you get more exp from solo play?Faster kills, less risk of dying.
>>583711114This channel is based, lol.
>>583715419Are macros completely a lost art?
>>583715196Doesn't matter which tank you pick. You are the tank invite whatever classes you want to your group
>>583715193Why would undead racials be better than orc in pve?
>>583715627>constantly stance dancing between battle and defensive for overpower and revence>upkeep on rend>thunderclap spam>have to actively keep an eye on having too much rage that has to be dumped with heroic strikewhile paladin just auto attacks and spams justice on cooldown
>>583715743they might want some of the same weapons / shields maybe, aside from that no not really.warriors are going to bum hunter and druid / rogue gear while paladins will bum shaman / caster gear.
>>583715998Warlock tank isnt ever going to happen kekypowy.Same with mage healer.Same with shaman tank.Same with rogue tank.Same with any meme specs from sod.
>>583716041The speed doesn’t make up for the losses and the risk of dying doesn’t exist and even if it did, you do lose anything when you die.
>>583715456It was a big can of worms and potentially a long lasting scarThere is a universe in which they could have kept 90% of the players happier by never having Skyborne to begin with and leading with races people are already familiar with. The problem with thinking big and taking big risks is that backfiring in a long lasting way. Skyborne could have still worked if they introduced them as a non-playable, explicitly Highborne faction of elves that you interact in a new zone. Then they could build the demand for them naturally.But they came out of nowhere and now here we are.
>>583715743braindead retardins will all roll on pure str stam gear and then ALSO roll on magic damage gear
>>583716083i just for tanking you just sit in defensive stance the whole time and and sunder shit
>>583716083Don't forget prot warr literally has no aoe threat unless he gets meme sword from MC
>>583716154>Same with shaman tank.
It's true. I can't accept that the paladin isn't in a dress and healing. I can't make fun of him now. Blizzard needs to fucking fix this or World of Warriorcraft is ruined Forever.
>>583716154Melee hunter was a meme spec from sod...
>>583715882>Why would you ever group when you get more exp from solo play?Because a group is easier and you're willing to trade easy mob kill for less xp. USE YOUR GODDAMN BRAIN>They catered the game to antisocial autistic retards who can’t cooperate, and then those retards became trannies.Try to stop being a fucking retarded /pol/brained retard for JUST one second. Might help you actually use that goddamn brain God gave you
>>583716154Metamorphosis is the most iconic warlock spell ever added to the game, is intrinsically designed for warlock tanking, and Forever is the video game equivalent of a “greatest hits” compilation.
>>583715743cant wait for warrior seethe when retchads roll on nu-blackstone ring
>>583715189Kill all poopsockers
>>583716183>The speed doesn’t make up for the lossesHoly skill issue.>risk of dying doesn’t existGo farm more than one green mob at a time. Dying costs time which is what you value so fucking much.
>>583716334>erm we've decided to make warlocks able to tank, as a result we need to lower their dps by 5% sowwwy!!!not happening
>>583716334i dont think it is, no
>>583716497Warlocks are used to doing less damage than they ought to.
Warriors not being top DPS and prio tanks is as unnatural to World of Warcraft as women voting in ancient Athens or any democracy for that matter.
>>583715196>be tank, paladin warrior druid doesn't matter>press I"now let's see, what do we have here">completely cherry pick your entire group while getting a million offers to suck your cock for an invite>you invite 4 of these slaves>winand the price for this is clicking on consecration/thunder clap/swipe every 6 seconds
>>583716297But we dont have pure meleeWe have melee weaving
>>583716334That would be Death Coil, Fear or Seed of Corruption actually
>>583716579sorry brown, its yellows turn
>>583716154Truth.nvke
>>583716579Are you retarded? Warriors haven't been prio tanks since og wow, and were only prio dps in private servers and 2019 classic. The amount of time warriors have been in a good state is a drop in a pool of water that is the time the game existed.
*cough* Elementalbros...
>>583716678Those are core abilities. Metamorphosis is an iconic ability. Warlocks quit the game when they removed Metamorphosis and gave it to the new Demon Tranny class.
are dual daggers still meta for rogue?
>>583716334>Meta is... The single most [Insane delusional take]Aight.
>>583716621you also have to pull and people will stare at you silently if you pull wrongsometimes one of the fucking dps who could have gone tank spec but chose not to will also /w you to say something about how you shouldn't pull this or that pack and add a fucking smiley face afteryou can kick them but then everyone leaves and you have to restart the dungeontanking is the hardest job in the game and I'm glad that once I rape onyxia I will be free of this game Forever
okay someone just fucking give it to me straight. do i play druid or warrior or tank. i want everyone to kneel down and beg for me to join their groups. no exceptions, needs to be good enough that even 4 clothies in a group will fear speaking up to my superior dungeon composition drafting
>>583716756i cant even begin to imagine the leaps of logic required for this retarded chart to be born out of it
>>583715776They have good lore, interesting cultural divide, and a drastically different viewpoint seeing that their islands are sinking out of the realm.
>>583716843What an arbitrary distinction.
>>583716852swords were better for pve
>>583716334>Metamorphosis is the most iconic warlock spell ever added to the gameThat's a funny way to spell demon hunter
Man the graveyard in Ashenvale (for the Horde at least) might genuinely be in the top 3 of worst graveyards in the entire game
>>583716756>Shockmandigo is the apex of a hybrid class>Also top dpsXdD
dishwasher and forklift are still banned words in alex's chat btw
People clear dungeons like they're running M+, killing only the bare minimum number of mobs because of the dungeon XP nerfs. I'm never trusting blizzard again.
>>583716756This is actual mental illness, Nostradamus would make better predictions.
>>583716334>the spell that didnt exist before wrath and is a demono capstone>most iconic warlock spellmeta wish it could be 1% as iconic as life tap
>>583716754>vanilla>classic>private serverThose three things are the only natural forms of World of Warcraft. Retailcucks are basically trannies.
We must be better humans
>>583716957>>583717042Still on the denial stage of grief I see
>>583717042>he doesnt know
>>583717016I'm sorry that you won't be able to feed your family now that boosting is dead. Truly, I have sympathy.
>>583717016People already did that shit in classic, everyone pulled what they had to to get to the boss as quickly as possible.
>>583716962When you think of warlock, Metamorphosis is what stands out visually. For Druid it’s the forms, for Mage it’s Water Elemental/Mirror Image/Portals, for Warriors it’s bladestorm, for Hunter it’s Volley, etc.
>>583716959>They have good lore,stop saying that shit, repeating it doesn't make it truethey're a nuWoW race with all the typical trappings
>>583716334metamorphosis is a demon hunter ultimate ability
>>583716953Always bet on Druid
>>583716969You don't get it, you just don't get it.I started in wrath and played mop and nothing else and I have a psychotic adoration of meta if everyone was sorta meh about it.Also it should be a tank because there was one meme glyph that...
>>583715464>To be fair the only fun part of it was the communityYeah I kind of agree. I played an a small pve server and the number of players seriously grinding in pvp scene was single digits. We had a couple of guys who were breaking brackets consistently and it was kind of a nightmare. I would typically spend the first half of the week doing pool expansion and light pvping to get on pace to cap, and get 80-90% of my honor grind done by Saturday night. It was just super stressful for me personally because we had a couple of guys who just wanted to break brackets and make people miserable, so I had to keep one eye open at all times to ensure they knew myself and a couple others could go supernova if we had to. My last few weeks essentially became a The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly standoff where me and one other guy who did most of the pool expansion were in a constant state of mutually assured destruction staring down this third guy that was a huge prick and was breaking our brackets.We eventually had three weeks of peace when I made it clear to him that I was grinding solo (and meeting cap) without going all out or even using consumables. Once he realized that I was willing and able to go full sweat was when he finally backed down and obeyed the brackets
>>583717286Demon Hunters were Warlocks before they needed to make them their own class to sell an expansion to trannies.
>>583717226No it isn't. It's not even in vanilla.When I think of warlocks I think of fear, demons, dots and death coil. Core abilities are iconic.Meta is borderline retail shit
>>583717016Sorry Xi Ching Bong
>>583717286Based.>>583716334Pack it up Warlocktard, you just got demonlished.
>>583717016Every single time I see this image ITT it's some retarded nigger making false flag doom postshttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/Zu1DjbldORKV79fmWjjnVQ/
>>583711114based
>>583717136source: it came on me in a dream
>>583717016>Warn you about this>It happens:) it will be worse on release.>>583717195Bosses in classic give the same xp as normal mobs. Nigger. Bosses giving more XP is literally retail stuff
i dont give a fuck about parses or highest dps or anythingi just roam the lands as an orc warrior with a big axei pillage every little alliance towni ravage all their womanthis is the lifezug zug
>>583716073those are 2 minute sims. touch of the grave is just that strong. orc and troll come on top only if the fight is like 30 secondshttps://xnwlk.github.io/WarlockSIM/
>>583717387All boring casts. Metamorphosis makes you feel cool.
>>583717421Cause its the same poster
>>583717226Absolutely not
GIVESKY ELF SHAMANSTOALLIANCE
My class has zero AoE unless 25 talent points are spent in a specific tree.My class provides zero party buffs.My class only has 5 minute cooldowns.My class is the 2nd slowest mobile class in the game.My class is the lowest played class.What class am I?
>>583717584GIVE SKY ELF PALADINS
I'm torn between playing enhancement or elem as shaman. They both bring the same utility so the smart move is to play the one with the highest DPS, if you play the spec with the lowest DPS you're just griefing, I'll have to gear both at lvl 60 and get a feel
>>583717136Shaman needs terrible scaling because it gets maelstrom weapon on lightning bolt and will be invited because of totems :)583717383Lol
FFS I can't believe I have to go yet another week without pugging Onyxia. I'm outta here see you losers.
>>583717642Enh supposedly 1-2 shots in pvp against anyone at lvl30
>>583717545Yes, that's what I'm saying. Least obvious concerntroll.
>>583717387>death coilFunny because death coil was a pre-tbc addition created solely because warlocks were complaining about getting shat on in pvp and needed a solution
>>583717114>>583717136>devs flip a switch and add different gearLiterally counting the chickens before that Rooster even nuts.
>>583716334It was actually designed to do a couple of cleaves and to put yourself on fire every 3 minutes while doing your crappy shadowbolt spam and using your molten core procs.
>>583717540So what I already said, you decided arbitrarily.Metamorphosis is lame. Death Coil and demon pets are the warlock
>>583717352meta was a tank spec in sod, its going to be added to sod+xou can accept this, or 41% xourself now, it is xour choice
>>583716664non weaving is best atm, the white damage with all the attack speed buffs is so high
I am a warrior, i play wow on hard mode, i enjoy the journey, all my deaths only make me stronger
>>583717736Or maybe they don't know what they're doing given how they're still making sweeping changes to multiple classes weeks before launch
>>583714758yes hunter pets are strong (meanwhile warlock pets kek) but so is damage coming purely from autoshots, multishot etc.I'm not saying lone wolf hunter is something which I know will own, but just looking at the talents and numbers, with good enough gear, it may just work. only midwits will knee-jerk dismiss it
>>583717803>Sod+Is this the new cope for sod-?
>>583717878I'm not disagreeing, I just think making such far out projections right now is pointless.
>new datamined forever spell for magesThis is retardedly overpowered. It's a movement ability, it's a trinket, it has basically no cooldown and you get it 3 hours into the game, they need to remove it RIGHT the FUCK now!
>>583717803SoD is deadIt was a failed experimentNo one liked the meme specsJust let it go bro
>>583714870Meh it just sounds like it will be no effort epic piñata like anniversary and the seasons are just like tbc arenas but with bgs instead.At least there's not gonna be any resilience right?
>>583717979gr8 b8 m8
When I do a dungeon I make sure my pve sissies are in line, we kill every mob in the entire dungeon, that purple on the auction house, yea that came from my strict discipline, always keep your pve cuckholds in line
>>583711114wonderful
>>583718060I'm being serious. If they want to bring Mage down to the same level as Warlock or Shadow Priest, which they should, Blink should be removed.
>>583717136this was made before they changed shit like buffing wrath by 50%
>>583717979>20 yard teleport on a 15s cdHow the fuck can paladins even keep up with this shit?
I want to announce to all the seething retards ITT that on november 4th. You are all going to be raped. Brutally. Repeatedly. The chuds are coming. And we will rape you. What are you gonna do about it?
TREMBLE WARRIORS AND DESPAIRDOOM HAS COME TO THIS WORLD
>>583713992You want to be a dwarf, trust Aggrend
>>583718189I activated my everything-proof shield
>>583717713lol, with what? lightning bolt?
staysafe won
>>583717803What's it like to constantly have "trannies" in your head?
>>583718042I remember logging into SoD after taking maybe a 2 month break, and my server was completely dead. Everyone had left. Stormwind was completely empty, and when I did /who is came back with 0 results. Felt like I was in some Silent Hill variant of WoW.
>>583717713it does yeah, its the biggest contender for killing the priests atm, even if they dont get the god procs, sapper makes it a kill regardless
there he goes, namedropping randoms again
Any chance to get arachnophobia option ?I feel very bad when I see spiders, even in a game. I never saw the scene when Frodo is in the tunnel in Lord of the Rings for example, whereas I love that movie.I know it's a Retail addition and people enjoy when it suits to Classic spirit, but can we make an exception please ? Azeroth is full of those monsters that give me nightmares, please consider transform them in crabs, even if it's a bit scary too.
blizzard are losing it. it won't be long now. we will not have to suffer much longer. there is light at the end of the tunnel for us while blizzard can expect only darkness. it's finally almost over.
>>583718204WE SHALL MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THESE PALTRY WARRIORS
>>583718204Id invite him into my dungeon group, i'm a druid so he can have the ravager.
>>583718343stormstrike and windfury, retard
>>583717713Yeah if they get a wf proc, but even then its like wf proc +stormstrike + shock
>>583717261They have better lore than Tauren or Gnomes, and I still like Tauren.
>>583718567there already is one that turns all arachnids into grotesque crab people
I'm gonna roll a warlock tank and you can't stop me.
im HOPING for obscure builds dipping into 2 or all 3 skill trees will be great
>>583718204Ever notice how these guys have 6 legs like insectsBet I'm pointing it out for the first time to at least one of you
its a good thing its mostly pvp gear
i’m convinced the dungeon xp faggots are astroturfing.
>>583718782>runs into a pack>dies
>>583718204>>583718572Im not 16 anymore i dont play pvp tho
>>583716756Nowhere to go but up!
>>583718862pvp gear works in pve
>there are people in this thread that think solo leveling should be faster than group levelingYou can tell Forever was made for a completely different audience than Classic.
>>583718879this but only the ones who disagree with me
>>583718838Sorry! Aggrend said no
>>583718879nah theres a lot of autists out there that have ADHD and cant focus for 5 seconds to finish a quest, they would rather be in a discord call with 4 other losers and talk about rap music or niggers and grind mobs endlessly.
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>>583718567I know this is bait and probably a copypasted reddit post but as someone who is actually scared of spiders the WoW spiders don't phase me at allActually the retail ones freaked me out more
>still dont know if i want to play paladin or warrior tank>launch in 27 daysFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK its 2019 all over again
>>583718985>human male warriorwow...
>>583719050twy both.
>>583719037no we complain about our doordash and crack open a few beers
>*is an unbalanced retailslop ability in your path*uhh bros, what did J*sh greenfield mean by this?
Channel update: I hope everyone has been enjoying the video uploads, the streams, and consistency. I'm in a really good mental headspace right now and really enjoying the whole streaming/content creation thing again. Even if WoW Forever isn't a great game, we can still cover the downfall, together. I know I've disappeared in the past, and you never know, it could happen again, but I think we're headed for really great things this time around. Stay tuned for more!thats what ALEXENSUAL posted on YT
>>583715124sure as shit has not felt like it and i played nothing but hunter in beta
>>583719050go warriordruids and warriors will whine in tandem until rage is the best resource again
>>583718879theres at least one where its painfully obvious hes insanely butthurt about boosting getting nerfed but he hasn't gone mask off about it yet
>>583719147prayer of mending is just as bad
>>583718179mage slows dont do anything anymore KEK
>>583719147This obviously plays into their deep, rich gameplay focused around shielding their allies, and I just want to say, that's not just brilliant, it's exhilirating.
>>583719206literally who
You asocial losers need to stfu. Your constant whining and complaining is part of why no one wants to be your friend.
That sound that places when Moonfire is cast. It's awesome. It is like this misty rain scented sound. I imagine seeing her through the Mists when I hear that sound.
>>583719147you still want prayer of mending for raids though. so no penance in raids if you wanna maximize hps output.
>>583719147Can you say what's wrong with Penance without using the terms retoilet or slop or tranny
>>583719318Yeah I hate it. Should be a thing where PW:S absorbs the damage and then shatters at the enemy. Penance is gross.
>>583718898Check that damage reduction. That's not even counting molten skin, master demonologist and soul link. Void also can actually hold aggro in forever so it can take care of a single mob in a pack, while getting healed by demonic energies. It's gonna be sick.
>>583719292even more so, the scaling on PoM is insane
>>583718939yeah but the forever pvp gear is nerfed and raid gear will be better
>>583718850I genuinely never noticed
>>583719320He banned me for asking if it was him shilling here, or some other schizo. I'm not sure what the answer is still.
>>583719589>61 Staminawat
>>583719589And that's a good thing. Nothing awarded from pvp should ever be bis or even comparable to raid gear since they're not balancing for pvp at all.
>>583719589forever has seasons. the gear we can see now is season 1. it will go up. don't compare apples to oranges.
>>583719636Yeah same until like a year ago (playing since 07). Great detail
>>583719589Show forever raid gear to compare.
Staychad > Cucksensual
>>583719463holy spec right now is skipping pom and going penance, not being able to bounce pom with renew and it not jumping out of party means its mid
>>583710754>Let me live in my fantasy worldThats no different than being a troon
>>583719680he linked sod version
holycucks are mad because disc will always be the chad spec in raids.
>>583712479People will be mad, but this webm is correct.Though I'd add, much like autism, being trans is also a spectrum. If you play female characters, it doesn't mean you are fully trans and should transition asap, but you do have some trans tendencies.Fully normal straight males will pretty much never choose to play as a female in games where being a male is an option.
>asmon rolling pve>also starting an EU guild nowwhat a tremendous faggot
>>583720007agreed
>>583719589Vanilla GMC did not have 61 stamina you fucking retard.
>still no shaman signups for our guild(alliance)>wanted to try a warriorFucking hell, I'm never feeling the windfury unless I play an enhance shaman myself.But a dwarf? I don't know... They are cool enough with plate but they look silly with other armor.
>>583720064good, i was on horde and even on horde everyone was screaming about him and where he was and inv to asmon layer
>>583719835Drops are hidden and can't be datamined yet.There's this craftable axe that uses materials from the new raids though.
>>583719961i see that now>>583720110it's still 16 dps less
>>583720132i'd rather play horde than a dwarf
>smite spec will have huge dps by putting PI on the mage and warcraft logs adding that damage to you
>>583720064RP BVLLS won!
>>583716756Nerf S tier, buff B tier and delete C tier
>>583720242looks weaker then the pvp gear.
>one of the best classes in vanilla (mage) gets nerfs across the board to the point where there's literally no reason to play it>one of the worst classes in vanilla (druid) gets buffed and can do literally everything, they're the best tanks, best healers, best dps, have the best CC, the best movement speed, the best buffs and have literally no downsides
mcdonalds game time
>>583719231so what you gonna play on launch? just the usual bm leveling build?
>The level cap for the remainder of the beta testing till launch on November 4th will stay at level 30.Knowing the amount of bugs we have found so far, wtf are they thinking? Not letting us test up to level 60? The launch is gonna be a shitshow, once people hit past 30 theres gonna be so many bugs and exploits...
serious question, can I dual box a shaman and play with my feet?
>streamerfaggots literally crying and shitting themselves over blizzard not balancing their game around the level 30 PVP tournylol lmao
Still don't get why so few people want to play dwarf shaman. It's fun.
>>583720370They should also attribute windfury procs to the totem owner.
>>583720759ugly + weak racial
why do so many trannies play horde? is it because asmon is on alliance?
>holy paladins doomin
>>583720403Same ilvl, same stat budget.I'd imagine they'll be on par with the first tier. Better than classic where you'd replace R14 weapons in naxx.
>>583720847Horde has fewer group quests, all trannies are autistic and therefore lack the empathy required to cooperate with other people.
>>583720715It's so curious everyone is basing everything off of level 30 cap. Seems really strange.
>>583720839>uglyDoesn't stop people from playing horde
That new battleground is just mirrored sides, lazy design and not like the vanilla BGs
>>583720847trannys hate him and they also know horde has the best racials for pvp. they also can play as a mutated rotting corpse which helps them self insert.
>>583720871mages have to pay for being aoe gods in classicpaladins have to pay for being healing gods in classic
>YA DOOD WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE GAME UNPLAYABLE FOR ANYONE NOT IN OLYMPUS DOOD>DOOD WE'RE LITERALLY GONNA OWN ORGRIMMAR DOOD>WE'RE GONNA INFECT EVERY SERVER DOOD>YOU'RE EITHER IN OLYMPUS OR YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE DOOD>WE'RE GONNA MONOPOLIZE THE ECONOMY DOOD>NOWHERE IN AZEROTH WILL BE SAFE DOOD>experiences .01% of the inconvenience of being on a PvP server>immediately rerolls PvEPeople worship this guy?
>>583721029Its literally just EoS but significantly worse and less sovlful since you can't knock people off into the void
>>583720495aussies cant stop winning
>>583721218i feared a rogue into the water and he died to dots/shark, was pretty kino. but yeah it's a shit bg, super lazy
>>583720847>trannys >not playing the cutsy alliance raceslol
>>583721218sharks eating people is cooler
>>583721203>Peoplegoyim do, same as any other streamer
>>583721203>Uhhhhh based>Yup>True>I've been waiting on this for a while>Hoes madI say this
>>583720871>holy fire???
>>583721417Only troons like sharks
>>583721218>MCing a guy and throwing him to the sharks and watching him get eaten alive isn't cool
>>583719876you can bounce pom with lesser heal rank 1. i still think pom is way stronger than penance hps wise but we will see.
>>583720759A subset of dwarf chuds won't touch shaman because it's not dwarfcore enough.
>>583721386>Rolls Horde sky elf in you're path
>>583720871goddamn riptide is fucking broken
>>583710117>making destruction an identifiable spec.destro lock has no unique spec specific spells compared to other casters at all so you need realistic expectations when it comes to viable =/= identifiable, even conflag is the same mechanic as healflagrate
>you can't be a dwarf mage because..... you just cant OK
>>583720871What does HPCT? Heals Per Cast Time?>>583721527You know they are fixing downrank cheese right?
>>583721682Warhammer dwarfs don't use magic, and Warcraft is a cheap Warhammer knock off.
>>583720847they really don't, much more common for alliance troon. MoH private server guild imploded because officers were wooing girls behind each others back and they were alliance
>>583710472>he does this along with 600 billion others playing paladinyeah flawless strat
if you are playing paladin or hunter you better have a big group of friends who drag you alongno one is going to invite one of those for a dungeon or raid
I think it would be funny if Dwarf was the only shaman for alliance at launch. But when Aggrend and his lackeys find out allies don't have enough shamans, they try to fix things by giving them a pretty shaman race .It would be pretty hilarious, especially for those who bit he dwarf bullet just for shaman.
>>583721843You would think everyone would do this but most people are complete pussies and refuse to tank under any circumstance
>>583721935I think hunters might get invites but pallys are so redundant it's not even funny>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but my blessingscamping exists
class for this feel?
>>583720871le best single target healer btw
>>583721935I will :)
>>583717103the greenest pov
>>583721731they said they're removing fingers of frost and similar procs from downranking, but frostbolt rank 1 still applies the slowgood chance lesser heal rank 1 will bounce mending too
>>583722074warrior
>>583722074Warrior
>>583721203>Yes, dude, we're not going to disturb anyone not in Olympus, dude.>Orgrimmar? We'll let them have a peaceful day, dude>The other servers won't hear about us it's fine, dude.>You can join my guild if you want, if you don't want to that fine, dude.>We'll let the economy regulate itself as it's more healthy for the auction house of our server, dude.>Azeroth will sleep tight tonight, dude.no one would watch him
>>583720871>penance more efficient than tranquilityjesus christ
I've never played rogue really, can someone break down the use cases of it's talent trees? I understand combat is pve, what's the general goal with sub and sin? One is a pvp spec I'd imagine?
>>583722163Rank 1 still applies the slow because everyone is stuck at level 30. At 60 it will do nothing.
>>583720871Penance sure is looking balanced...
>>583722260His viewership numbers have stayed largely the same since his first breakout year in streaming. He never did this shit before and the viewers still poured in. Your take is retarded.
>>583721935I hate hunters, they're always the stupidest fucking players who pull random shit while rolling need on everything. Never invite hunters.
>>583722350they were talking about not proccing talents, not things built into the spell itself, the rank shouldnt matter on PoM but blizz vibe coding might actually fuck it
>>583722350wrong, the patch notes explicitly said you can still cast rank 1 frostbolt for a quick slow at 60
>>583720871>holy fireCan you actually trust this?
>>583722669>>583722675A fair point, I should reread the notes.
>>583722345Sub is pvp, deep assassination is a meme and generally not the best option for anything, combat is pve.
>>583722694paladin cord paladin main, probably just forgot to take it out
>>583721203I swear I can remember him saying he was going to fuck the server up when he started 2019 classic and he ended up being bullied and his server turned 99% horde
>>583722345The current rogue talent trees aren't going to be in at launch so don't look at them, they've been reworked.Combat is generally for face tanking stuff while leveling or long fights like in raid.Sub is the pvp spec.Assassin has been changed entirely to be about poisons, normally you'd only dip a little into it and not go full assassin.
>>583722725You're not supposed to admit your mistake you're supposed to double down and call them retards
https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual
>>583720242>new Blackmaw raid is basically another ZG>gear is equal to R14 poopsocker gear
>>583722876
>>583722824He somehow got healing out of holy fire, that's not forgetting something
>>583722929The blackmaw thing is a mega dungeon, its their attempt at BRD. Its not a raid.
>>583714664They'll just track teams and only queue when the other sweats are in gameThis is how ranked has been for over a decade in retail
>>583723070How much you wanna bet its just gonna be the same generic furbolg tunnel copypasted over and over and over
thank God they added lone wolf for the hunter rerollers like me who always get filtered by pet management
>carrying a stack of mutton or some apples is genuinely too much for some people
>>583723212>same copypasted dwarf good>same copypasted furbolg bad
>spec into beast masteryLet the bodies hit the floorLet the bodies hit the floorLet the bodies hit the>put point into Lone WolfFLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
>>583709583None of that is true.There was a legendary caster staff in Naxx.Warriors were basically never dps in vanilla. Well - shit DPS since you needed 8 actually geared warrior tanks for 4 horsemen so warriors never had good dps sets.That came way way way later in nuWoW classic and private servers.Mage stacking was the norm and most guilds had a lot of rogues in vanilla.
>>583723527Times you were the joker
Why are they making the game retard friendly>Spells not clipping swing timer>No downranking>Homogenising buffs
Can you mail mage food/water? Could I be a cheapass and make a mage alt and mail food/water to my main?
>>583723527
>>583712479>imgYou can clip through the fence outside the alliance base and a few other places as a female model And you cannot as male Why would I purposefully gimp myself if I plan on PvPing?
>>583723789deviate delight king
>>583723863BLESS
>>583723464I bet they straight up copypaste the crystal area from the dwarf dungeon, tint it blue, and people will pogface
k so whats going on with these typos in their official youtube vids? how many epic fails are we going to look past in favor of le classic + hype?i still havent gotten over how busted eureka was initially
>>583724197AI upscaling, unironically
shant watch
>>583718850I always thought it was stupidadding extra bits just to make it more fantasy-like
>TOEP+ZHC+Holy Shock will be the new pom pyro
>>583723789>be me>be troll warrior (body type 1)>druid fc sneaks through the hole in the fence>pop noggenfogger and become a tiny skeleton>jump through the hole as wellHeh, nothin personnel, kid.....
>>583724132is sneedvun making the ai thumbnails for alex?
>>583724326It's a basilisk, not a crocodile. Basilisks have 6 legs. They're also a fantasy creature and guess what, Warcraft is a fantasy game. Shocking.
>>583724384>TOEP+ZHCspeak english
>>583724384>tfw you hate women
>>583717103Redridge Gnoll pov
>>583724384yes if only mc and zg existed
>>583724597>what is an acronymnow who's esl
>>583724526uh chud, its a crocolisk not a basilisk.
>>583724829Toep zhc sounds like polish gobbledygook
>>583724394Any real sweaty nolife virgin would know that the only two items that actually change your character's model size are giant growth elixir and winterfall firewater, both of which make you bigger and give gnomes access to jump tech they otherwise cannot perform
>>583724850a crocolisk is a subspecies of basilisk
Why do retoilets think 4-5 button rotations make them better? It just makes them more autistic
>>583724384Based Aggrend won't let you use two trinkets at once.Wouldn't be comfysoulchungus
>>583724384You can't use two trinkets togetherIf you use TOEP, ZHC will go on CD for 30 seconds, and vice versa
can monks be a thing or is that too retail doesnt need to be a chinese theme specifically
>>583724132Even ai won't give him a good hairline
the real question is are we going to be able to gate skip to farm savage glad chain
>>583725016monks are gay as fuck, fuck monks
>>583725016Too retail"""Rotation""" is just apmslop spamfest and Fistweaving is a retarded meme
>>583724995Aggrend will make an exception for Paladins.
>>583724946If you actually have a choice on what button to press next you can outdamage bad players. If rotations are just 1 button spam then whatever bozo has better gear always wins on the meters.
This will be you on launch week of wow of worldcraft: 5 ever. I will RAPE you.
>>583725106NTA but Fistweaving is the most fun I've ever had in this game ( ._.)
>>583725143Even with 1 button you can outdamage bad players
Bros i need adviceDo i play spriest wand to 60 then make a prot / pala or reverse order
>>583725016monks are too samwise didier in generalit doesn't matter if it's chinese or not, people have just had enough of samwise didier and anything he's madethat's right one of the founders of warcraft as a setting? persona non grata. Forever is about steering Warcraft to where it should have always been.
Support White Content Creators, watch Alexensual, Soda and Kungen.
that excavation dung was very fun
>>583724930Idk I made a jump a few times to chase some druid through it, I'm not sure which hole it is that I got through I just remember slipping through that wall at some point
>>583725207>emoji>finds retailslop funRemember to take your HRT
>>583725016Monks, DH, and DK where all on the survey.
>>583725240>persona non grataAnyone who uses this terminology has always been the most insufferable person I've ever met
>>583725207>>583725106>>583725061>>583725016What if they reinvented monk as a fresh new classic class with different stuff
>>583725270it reminded me of jurassic parkdon't go in the tall grass haha!
Why are browns THIS retarded?
>>583725360>where
My OG main Warlock is gonna be criminally underplayed, especially on the pvp server and as alliance, which is what my friends appear to be committed to.But I also kind of want to play druid and flex tank/heals while maining balance druid. What do? If they confirmed warlock tanking will come later I'd probably be more likely to play lock.
>>583725270I enjoyed very much.Blizzard cooked.
>>583724526basilisk? you mean a cockatrice? :^)
>>583725295I might be incorrect, I think savory deviate delight also changes your actual hitboxI recall tauren hunters using it to reduce their leeway zone
>>583725440brown only know smash
>>583725375SureGet rid of chink themeGet rid of the "le fighting game!" rotationMake the healing spec actually a healing spec and not fistweavingMake Brewmaster something not retarded and not gimmicky
>>583725416damn i never thought about that i cant unsee it now lol
>>583725016Monks as they exist in retail are Disney faggotry of the highest orderA monk class done properly would overlap too heavily with pala and priest
>>583720629yes
>>583725375like what, ranged holy damage dps? nobody wants that
cant believe dungeons are dead like this
>>583725375The first class I want is the tinker which was supposed to be in the game but they cancelled it for the monk. Id change monks to get rid of all the chink shit and just be fist fighters.
they're surely gonna do more dung xp changes before launch, right
>snutz signing up late and RMTingyeah im dropping from this tourney this shit is fried smell ya later
Disc priests should be made into a tank spec
>>583725440I actually don't play warrior at all, they have access to throwing weapons?
>tinkers on class survey>they cant use gunsKEKKYPOW
well i resubbed to play anniversary while i wait.. heh.. having so much fun
>>583725759Warriors are supposed to be the weapon masters, they can use everything except wands
Azeroth - Year 1Sylvanas Windrunner is mistress of LordaeronOnly Dalaran stands before herLordamere Lake is now a battlefield
>>583725759that have access to every non-wand weapon, that's their thing
>literal who did thingomg bros
>>583725574>>583725705>is that... EAST ASIAN INSPIRED FANTASY!?!?!?!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Larpers.
>Alex making 4 vids a dayDoes anyone have the alexensual cycle pic?
>going into a fresh server with your preexisting guild instead of wiping the slate clean for a new adventuredo people really?
>>583725774tinker was melee in wc3
>>583725546I think you're right and we are just thinking about different holes in the wall, I remember there is one I could squeeze through and another I couldn't figure out where the hole was exactly, so that's probably the one you're thinking of It was like 3 years ago and I was very stoned my entire rank 14 grind so my memory is a little hazy obligatory dude weed lmao
>>583725747would be cool but then id be forced to be a holycuck to heal
>>583725842>>583725871I see
>>583725897Fuck this guy. ONE GOLD to train polearms? Fuck outta here
if they want to do an unarmed class, give me a street brawler pugilist instead of a buddhist monk
All the classes that aren't directly ported from WC3 should be removed and replaced with WC3 classes. These hero classes should all be race and gender locked, there should be far, far more than just 9, and they don't need to have so many redundant small abilities when they should have a handful of very powerful abilities instead.
>>583725897>One le funni reference NPCvs>An entire slop expansion and slop class that we have to look at to this day
>>583725590>main monk on retail>played one during legion remix>every other class on their epic adventure for their class order hall questline>meanwhile monk->CHINGCHONG BINGBONG COME HELP YOUR PANDA FRIENDS COLLECT INGREDIENTS FOR A BREW YOU CAN DRINK TO DEFEAT 1 DEMON HEHE STRAWHATSRICEFIELDSCCPI JUST WANNA PLAY A COOL MARTIAL ARTIST STOP WITH THIS GOOFY PANDA SHIT!
>>583725615Very suspect of them to be loitering around near a dungeon entrance like that...Did you report them to the Booster Police?
>slop slop slop slop
>>583726129Combat rogue exists for you, use fist weapons
>>583726117no penis?
>>583726082>mountain king is the best tank and dps>paladin is the best healerhome...
>>583725897>>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!this unironicallySam Didier did everything wrong. No, there are no Japanese Orcsu, replace blademaster with warmaster with a Garrosh-like physique and remake warcraft with that so that the video game franchise is saved.
>>583726117dude she looks 14 wtf
>>583726082Only thing Warhammer Online did rightEvery race had their own classes
>>583726310>t. Warcraft 3 Reforged fan
>>583726331thats just the down syndrome
>>583725210>>583725210>>583725210
>>583725210>>583726470Just bee urself :)
>>583726331Yeah you're right she's too old
>>583725016>>583725061There are several Scarlet Monk variants, but they seem to be a more tough version of a priest. Discipline priest, kind of.If I remember correct, the Discipline priest was meant to be more of a monk kind of a thing, which is why the armor buff exists, as well as some of the weird talents in the OG disc tree.It was also why some cloth gear in Vanilla had Strength.That was scrapped along with rogues being able to use bucklers and melee hunter.
Classic ploos hasn't even come out and we're already out here posting about what Blizzard should've done instead, but will never, ever, ever do. Because they didn't this time. And that should make it clear that they won't.
>>583726117>no tats
>>583725865Sylvanas should be deported back to quel'thalas
>>583726331probably because she is 14 lmao, clear your temporary cache
>>583726470hpal, locked, socks ON, healing dungeons you already did the quests for because you misclicked but you're too shy to tell anyone, say sorry for being new at the start of each dungeon
>>583726572>It was also why some cloth gear in Vanilla had Strength.Cloth gear had strength because when they were designing the items they were told that every stat would be valuable to every class which ended up being not true.
>>583726010I wanna cum inside grimmi repeatedly.
when are horde getting vulpera
>>583725865I'll never not be annoyed at this fucking lake. In WC2 it's the official reason for why the final Orc campaign map is a sea mission.Still not as retarded as the Blasted lands being a set of concentric rivers.
>>58372633114 year olds dont have tits and ass like hers
When will the jannies do something about people advertising ecelebs here?
>>583726857never
>>583726059Dps spec brawlerDps spec 2 monkHealer spec brewmasterCreate different brews and throw them to heal your comrades
>>583726924shes just jewish anon its okay
>>583726723Quit streaming Alex
>>583726857vulpera would be good
just finished my lifts and my run time to goon
Hat status?
>>583726082And instead of collecting bear asses the goal should be destroying an ancient place of power deep within enemy base.
>>583726732Holy palaFuck noNever>>583726565Which order you spasticI'll play both but i need one to hit 60 first
>campfire buffs can be brought into raid>dont have to bring 3 paladins ever again
>>583726857They'll be the next race they release
Sorry trannies, but /ourguy/ just confirmed, Forever isn't classic.
>>583727208you say that like a joke but HotS has been a superior warcraft game to WoW for a long time now
>>583727349that campfire buff duration legacy talent will be very good at high levels when you can carry like 10 buffs
>>583727372obviously its not classic, its classic+
>>583725016
Bards would complete the campfire experience.
>>583726129Anything Oriental doesn't fit in fantasy genre, so no.
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>>583727349how are you going to rebuff after you wipe with the pvp outside, dont tell me you're hiding on the pve server
>>583727432they are kinda like world boofs if you think about it
>>583727498If they put bards in, they won't have a MIDI system where you can actually play songs.
>>583711518>It's over pvp is ruined it's all casual shit nowworld of warcraft is the casual baby mmo what do you expect? go play a daoc private server or something.
>>583727591Raids will have a token camp spot inside of them so that we may gather together in the tenuous firelight, furtive and vulnerable.
>>583727640yeah I mean that's what I assumed would replace, like there's some really good shit later and the expert campfire lets you hold 10 buffs from all profs
>>583722451>He never did this shit before and the viewers still poured inhe was worse before he blew up from the Depp trial, during WoD/Trump 1 when every other word out of his mouth was calling McConnell a cuck was absolutely unbearable unless you were also deplorable irl. if anything he is way more sanitized now than ever before
imagine having sex at the campsite
>>583727652You have 4 keys bound to each string of their lute and spells are different combinations of those strings in order, creating songs and harmonies.
>>583727640I can already imagine the raidleaders autistically minmaxing who is bringing which profession buff to which camp.
retail is just a tranny cess pool at this point, best it die and all the cancer it contains with it
>>583727753i think they are more spiritually classic than begging in trade chat for booty bay sum then begging for sw portal
>>583726773Nah, there was an interview with one of the big guys at the time and they specifically mentioned battle priest/monk fantasy was supposed to be a thing and is why they put strength on some blue cloth gear in dungeons early on in the low levels, but then scrapped the build and didnt have time or forgot to adjust the gear.Strength cloth was meant for the Monk priest.Same thing with the bucklers for rogues.
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24302546/world-of-warcraft-forever-the-future-of-skyborne-visual-updates
how it feels to roll female human DPS
New textures are way more in line with vanilla's texture design>detail painted into the texture>higher contrast>more muted colorsI was not expecting them to remake the models from scratch, so I'm happy with this
>>583727897yeah and it's more constant to get too, I like it
>>583727862So you can play one fucking chord, got it.
>>583726732Literally me..
>>583727881yah manne those trannies will all surely just drop dead and the retail writers and devs banished to saudi arabia when retail dies, surely
>>583727950me on the left
>>583727909> Skyborne player characters (and yes SD Druid forms) are in development and arriving early 2027.It's over.
>>583727960the base models are exactly the same
>>583727909>>583727960no no nonono this can't be happening, blizzard is full of trannies who hate us
>>583727950me in the back kissing
>>583727903>strength clothis that a good idea though? Imagine you're raiding and the drops are>strength cloth>spellpower plateThere needs to be more overlap in itemization. There shouldn't be gear for one specc of one class, and making more exclusive gear is going to push a demand for retailization of gear where everything just has <primary stat>. It's a bad idea in the long run.
>>583728012heyy
>>583727960The fully 3D modeled hair/feathers was the problem and they didn't fix it.
>So, for those of us that prefer the look of SD models and want more choice, Skyborne player characters (and yes SD Druid forms) are in development and arriving early 2027OH NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>583727960They look like shit still, what are you talking about? also>2027For fucking SD models? Are we real right now?
>>583727909W
>>583727960this level of idiocy shouldn't be legal. where are your legal guardians?
yup, we won
>>583728162>>583728087SD models are coming in a couple months
A non-trivial proportion of the Devs active on Forever are probably trans, and nearly all of their livelihoods depends on supporting woke narratives in every facet of their work. The game is ultimately doomed.Adversarial nature of factions will diminishAny elitist/high skill cap mechanics wil be tuned downAny definite advantages amongst specs will be tuned awayUnique spells will be cloned amongst other classes to prevent any comp needing a specific spec Art style will continue to be less gritty
>>583728085>>583728221>>583728334>recoloring blood elves takes them 3 fucking monthsMojang levels of lazy. Asha fire these niggas!
>>583728053I dont care what happens to forever you fucking retard, i just want you to lose your decades of “achievements” in wow. That you assumed otherwise shows how retarded you are.
>>583728221>>583728328>>583728334But I thought the antifog, antihd, antidrawdistance crowd just had to update their computers?
>>583726087sar?
>>583728112Yeh why not, not everything should be streamlined. Plate healing gear is only worth to a single class, its fine. Fuck it, nothing wrong with some chaos.Strength cloth can be useful to ferals and shamans.
>>583728112you're right, only good items should ever drop in an mmorpg, never bad ones
>>583728436im gonna vibe code a way to remove all that shit i aint playing no silent hill g
>>583728328Looks much better.
>tfw your character names are so unique you wont even need to reserve them beforehand>tfw spent hours crafting them
>>583728328Are these the actual belf models ?
>>583728535>IS THAT COLOR, IN MY VIDEOGAMES?!?Oh fuck, the xbox360 generation has grown up and is trying mmos now
>>583728535Wew not bad actually.
>>583728652They were fucking Neon blue
>>583728535they just made it darker, its the same fucking thing
>>583728289They need to train some people in the lost art of limited polygons.
>>583725316i mean some of the class gameplay is fun idk why thats such a hot take doesnt have anything to do w/classic nor should it be used as inspiration because its a different game entirely but yeah
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/world-of-warcraft-forever-the-future-of-skyborne-visual-updates/2375330/2melty alert
>>583728535Now they can touch up the HD travel form to not be halfway point slop.That was the only one that could've fit in the original nilla, it needs better....
>>583728402lol you're the retard here, I already lost all of those things when the state of california literally murdered what was left of Blizzard's competence base
>>583728761They already have that, SD skelf models are just going to be the fucking LODs.
>>583728749yes
>>583725574Watch me DP this wake up. Watch me DP it again.
>>583728749the druid symbol is also clearly paint instead of mystery glow material
2027........... /v/ros.....
The druid models look exactly the same. Why are we celebrating? Look at the og bear form next to the skelf """""redo""""", they did nothing to address the problem
>>583728328Cute skelfs
Skyborne are still a retail tumor, remove them
>>583728535>same modelYeah the color was the problem. Trust the plan.
>>583728968These are the HD forms, SD forms yet to be revealed
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>>583727909looks a lot better
>>583728968They stood out way too much. At least they will blend in better now, even if you don't like the model
>>583728968The cope is that it's just a texture change and the models will be "totally remade to fit the artstyle" 2027. They're just going to lower the polycount of the existing models.
Shut up. Consume hype, get hype and get excited for more hype. This is World of Warcraft and it will be Forever.
>>583729102Oh thank fuck, if you're not lying that is
>>583728896No they fucking don't. Very few newly added models actually fit with the old world.
>>583729195>So, for those of us that prefer the look of SD models and want more choice, Skyborne player characters (and yes SD Druid forms) are in development and arriving early 2027.
>>583729148They're neon blue but they're still bright blue, they should be a normal animal color instead of bright blue.
>>583727498Why not just make instruments another profession
>>583728749thats the HD forms, we wont see them when the SD forms come out
>>583729235That's not a "lower polycount" problem anon, that's an artstyle problem. Their idea of "Standard Definition" is just lowering the polycount.
>>583729256>birds aren't blue
>>583728825>blizz actually listened and promptly responded Wtf? Kind of surreal.
>3+ months to make existing models look simplerthese niggas need to be killed.
>>583729371>we can't reuse this model because... BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T OKAY!?!?!
>>583729510You can't just make an existing model look simpler and have it look vanilla-esque, you have to remake the whole thing
new thread with alexensual
>>583729786Good thing they're not remaking the models!
>>583729964but they are, that's why it takes 3 months?
>>583729364Okay you're right about that.
NON TRANNY FURFAGGOT JANNY PEDOPHILE TURBO POZZED BAKE>>583730712 >>583730712 >>583730712 >>583730712
>>583730127I'm glad they're doing it but there really is no excuse for this shit to take 3 months, come on now
>>583728749the fur / feather textures are completely redrawn
