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>the last thread that hit 750 was started September 19th>thread lasted a week (26th)>meaning that the TGS Revelation demo killed ALL discussion of Final Fantasy, even schizo namefag theatre>it's been 11 days since the last successful /ffg/ thread>/ffg/ has died 6 times in those 11 days>this is the 7th attempt, and it will probably also fail unless one of the schizos decides to samefag it hundreds of timesIt's time to let it die. There are people who have spent the past 6 years or more shitposting about Final Fantasy for 12+ hours per day, and either the Revelation demo finally killed the defenders, or WoW Forever killed the shitposters. It's dead. Looong overdue. Just go to /v/ or /vr/ or wherever.
>>583728456>WoW Forever killed XIV hype>Asmongold is killing WoW Forever>XIV might be saved yet again by the roach king
>>583729987There is not a significant overlap between XIV players and WoW players, besides the WoW players that Asmongold brought over in the first place. If anything, I think Aion 2 has a higher likelihood of "stealing" XIV players at this moment, because you can make a very attractive sex doll in that game.
What lesson can we learn from all this?
>>583731270Don't spend 6+ years trying to win an internet argument. Especially when you're just a drone who will run unpaid shill defense no matter what. If you spent years saying things like that the Whispers would never come back in Part 2, only for the doomer secondaries who didn't even play the game to be continually proven correct over and over and over and over again throughout the years, you really need to pause, take a step back, reexamine your life, and probably detox from the internet for a few months.
I like how Clive actually proves anabella right by being this super special ultrabeing. Her only real failure was being unable to realize that her son was Lord she always dreamed of birthing. FF16's messaging is so fucking confusing.
You guys must really love FFXVI, eh?
>>583736395I'm just one guy commenting on the shit that annoys me about the game as I play it. I'm at the end game now. I'm seeing a game that could have been much much more interesting but overall it's a mess.
>>583736395We have never stopped talking about it since before it even released.
>>583730378Aion 2's gameplay looks like its borrowed a lot from XIV's telegraphed orange ground markers too.
>>583736395I'm not even exaggerating when I say it might legitimately be my least favorite video game of all time.
>>583737221>looks like its borrowed a lot from XIV's telegraphed orange ground markers toohttps://x.com/pya_strzSS/status/2107030954082803861That's just the design language that all MMO and MMO-adjacent games use now. The Granblue game uses it, gacha games use it, other MMOs use it, etc. It's very "readable" and "musical chairs" is an easy enough concept to apply to any game where you move your character around. Multiple games have even straight up copypasted fights 1:1 from XIV into their game (always Chinese)It is an extremely influential game.
>>583738278the most respected.
>>583736395It was voted ffg’s #1 Final Fantasy in a poll we all agreed to honor no matter the results.So yes ffg loves XVI and only shitposters disagree.
My wife Eiko is super cute!I'm gonna miss you guys when we're gone.
It's a shame XIV keeps losing players and there's barely any hype around Evercold.
Final fantasy should do what BotW did. Have a culmination of worlds and references to past titles.
>>583728456>>583729987No. The VIIRgins killed /ffg/.
>>583736595>I'm seeing a game that could have been much much more interesting but overall it's a mess.Innumerable such cases, unfortunately. >>583737459>it might legitimately be my least favorite video game of all timeSame. Not sure I've ever completed any modern 3D game that I disliked playing more than XVI. And I've completed Dragon Age Veilguard, Forspoken, Wolverine, TLOU2, and many other "terrible" games.
>>583759646Funny how immediately after this post, a completely normal, organic post appears to take a dig at FFXVI.I'm noticing that whenever VIIR get criticized, someone has something to say about FFXVI. Curious...
>Naoki Hamaguchi says-SHUT UP AND WORK NIGGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>583765227>Naoki Hamaguchi saysI'm not gonna lie I thought they were going to be a lot stingier keeping things close to their chest, but they're really showing way too much. The mystery and allure of the game is vaporizing. I really, really didn't want to see the Chocobo rubber ducky hot springs thing. It's not that I don't like it, it's that I would have REALLY preferred to stumble upon something like that rather than 6 months before the game is out.I don't understand the strategy of doing all this. Maybe it's for one final pass of feedback before the game is complete? I don't think there's enough time for them to meaningfully change much about the final product.
For what it's worth I just finished XVI now after playing 17 other FF games in a marathon and I loved it. Definitely get the critiques over the pacing at times but wasn't really bothered by itNow I have to do the 13 trilogy and finally the 7 remakes
>>583766878Who asked you?
distressing lack of tifa breastfeeding art
>>583766878I asked.
>>583767385Just do yourself a favor and don't bother with the trilogy beyond the first game.For all the bitching about 7R adding shit, XIII's sequels are the textbook definitions of unnecessary additions and only exist because SE needed the money.
>>583768863XIII was just fucked from the beginning because the director sold Lightning as his perfect waifu.Then the game came out and people realized that Lightning wasn't a waifu, he was a tranny that shouted at everyone like a girlboss.
What the FUCK was the original line here?For context, this is after Tifa is glad Cloud ultimately came back, and Cloud apologizes for being too late. Then comes Sephiroth saying that.
>Final Fantasy XIII killed ALL interest in Final Fatnasy>Final Fantasy XIV: ARR brought it back >Final Fantasy VII: Remake could have brought back Final Fantasy, but then people actually played it, saw the Whispers, and ultimately no one cared>XIV has more relevancy than Final Fantasy ever since Shadowbringers>Final Fantasy would have ZERO relevancy if it weren't for XIVThey don't think it be like it is, but it do.
>>583770478Almost certainly it was "sasuga"
>>583770672So something in the way of "that's so like you", as in to stab people from behind? Or play hero?I understand a bit, but it's still a nebulous line.
Rewatching that scene from FFVII to remember it, and damn, is the translation awful.Sephiroth and Zack both refer to Cloud by name, so they know him, and Sephiroth knows him well enough to know Nibelheim is his hometown, yet when Sephiroth get attacked from behind by Cloud, he doesn't "who dares", or "who", but "who are you", which suggests he genuinely has no clue who Cloud is.I get that back then, translating meant "here's a text file with all the game lines and no context whatsoever", but still.
>>583771116The original VII was translated into English by just one person, Michael Baskett. He was given only a few weeks to translate a massive script with thousands of lines of text, all in isolated spreadsheets with no visual context. He had to translate lines without knowing who was speaking, where the scene was taking place, or what was happening in the wider story.
>>583771778>He had to translate lines without knowing who was speakingWait, the name wasn't even visible in the text string? It wasn't written likeSephiroth:: "Don't push your luck!"
>>583770478>>583771116I am bored and was curios too, so I watched a playthrough of that part in Japanese and translated it with Google. I was wrong, it wasn't "sasuga". I'm not sure what exactly it means. Maybe it's something like:>"[I can't believe] [someone like you / even you] [would defy me]"or something like that
>>583772180That makes a lot more sense. And it's also a lot scarier how Sephiroth went from the nicest guy ever to "you are all insects, bugs, worms and sodomites!"
>>583772324Yeah the English translation really does not convey a correct meaning at all. Again, I'm not sure exactly what it's saying, I don't know Japanese beyond standard anime words and phrases, just my best guess with translation tools and the original text.
>>583767385My problem is the story. There's no real nuance and for all the claims that it was going to be a darker story, all that's really dark about it is that the enemies coat the floor in blood. I think my biggest problem is how much it tries to rip off FFT and does it so much worse. Also, I wasn't a fan of the game saying it takes days to get places than ignore it after the prologue where clive, dion and mid are just fast traveling what would take weeks on foot in five seconds. There's really no consistency. Which wouldn't be noticeable if they hadn't done it so egregiously.
>>583772545The problem is that, in my understanding, Japanese is a language that relies very, very heavily on context. It's kinda like Elvish in Lord of the Ring or Warhammer, who can mean one thing, or the opposite, and you have to find out which one.So asking someone to translate it blindly, yeah...
>>583772806>Japanese is a language that relies very, very heavily on context.Yeah, that's my understanding as well, sometimes it's kind of on the listener to infer who or what a comment might be about.
>>583772992Poor Mickael, no wonder the translation is shit at time.
>>583766878Fightning Fantasy Claire Edition...the best one...
Damn the fatherless really is trying hard to kill /ffg/ with its cockroach-like spam.I wonder what motivates it to hate freedom of speech. Is it the terror that someone could criticize VIIR?
>>583775742People who grew up with a father figure tend to do stupid things for attention. And when they miserably fail to get the attention they want, they get bitter and spiteful and sad and miserable, and try to ruin fun things for everyone.
That checks out, he's so sad to watch.
>>583728456/vr/ is too dogshit to be preferable than here
>>583779074As soon as the people who come here to monitor threads for posts they dislike while claiming they would love nothing more than to talk about final fantasy start posting about final fantasy we will be fine.I don't think claiming talking about final fantasy here is impossible due to shitposters and schizos holds up anymore when the threads are literally dying from inactivity. Nobody is posting, so there's never been a better time to have all those final fantasy discussions our regulars have been so desperate to have.
>>583779279All these people have been chased out by the Final Fantasy House discouraging any kind of discussion that isn't mindless praising of their trash game.
>>583779304It was obvious a year ago that there were posters here whose endgame was nobody talking about anything, because that's preferable to anyone potentially criticizing their game.Unfortunately, they won. They got their wish and /ffg/ is dead and their game is safe.
>>583780057Sadly. I made the OP, and that filth immediately hijacked the thread again to spam their tranny pseudo-waifu and silence every criticism of VIIR, even when nobody even brought it up.It's so tiresome how they shit discussions before they even start. Even a talk about VII's translation get spammed by the orphaned one.
>>583779279Im just saying /vr/ is not anything different, if not, worse, than current /ffg/.
>>583772180ごとき / ごとく / gotoki & gotoku is a old variation of よう / you, which is used for "like". It's the exact same term used in Ryu ga Gotoku / Like a Dragon.The reason why the old TL had a brainfart here is because the japanese sentence implies but doesn't write the verb after the に particle, which I'm guessing the translators at the same time didn't bother checking about the sentence in context (or, most likely, didn't have the time). The more literal TL would be "(Getting defeated / caught / stabbed / opposed etc.) By someone like you..."
>>583728456You can thank me for shaming the 'zo into eternal silence and let the thread rest. You're welcome. He knows.
>>583781492>implies but doesn't write the verbSo what, is Sephiroth talkin' some shorten'd stuff 'ere? Or is it to suggest he's in pain and more like hiccuping and stuttering?
>>583784551The sentence is cut off because he's writhing in pain (but mostly for dramatic effect). It just sounds weird for a non-Jap speaker because verbs come at the end of the sentence so you need to infer it through the context of the scene, but it comes regularly in anime and such.
>>583785470Haa, okay. Maybe is what's-his-face knew what the context was, he could've figured out why he only had half a sentence to work with.Man, this is irritating: this is so stupid when you learn about it like that. Just a few lines here and here to explain what's going on would've massively improved the game.
>>583718685i said it last thread, i wont post or care about FF anymore thanks to Jimbo.Thanks man, i really needed those falseflags.
Bros, is Diamond Weapon inspired by Quebley?
You don't have to keep baiting (You)s so pathetically, you know?
Guys I just thought of a really funny original joke>why is it called final fantasy when there's 16 of them?>that's not very final
>>583789254And we said it in the last thread: He posts about FF, you don't. You post about him. But not enough to make anyone understand why, of course.>weYes, we. Are you going to come here every day to not talk about FF but remind us of your obsession?
What went wrong?
>>583790830Well, was there even a point to it to begin with?
>>583790830The game did nothing wrong. It gave us more time with the characters. The only thing that went wrong was the public not being grateful for it and failing to support it enough.
>>583790543>He posts about FFYou dont, jimbo.
>>583791023Probably the goal was to expand FF7's lore
>>583791327So money, got it.
>>583791248He does. And you don't. You post about jimbo.
>>583793284>>583791327I posted about FF. You didn't. Now watch this general die, thanks man.
>>583793337What a shame. Where will you talk about him in future? Is this the end of your jimboposting? 7 years, not a bad run.
>>583794831Are you gonna talk about Final Fantasy one day, or are you going to keep bitching about that guy who humiliates Jimbo whenever he tries to shit up the thread?
>>583796320>that guy who humiliates JimboSorry bro but saying "I hate Jimbo so much I refuse to talk about final fantasy any more" is much more embarrassing for you than it is for them. How are they supposed to feel humiliated by this? That makes no sense.
>>583796320You pissed off Jimbo, it's raging even more.
There we go. Always the exact same. The moment you ask a question he can't answer, his shadow arrives to back him up. And does his agreeable friend have an answer? Nope.Utterly mindbroken. Very sad. But 7 years of seething about a guy for no reason that can be rationally explained will do that to a guy I suppose.
>>583797380>for no reasonAre we pretending he didn't say lol in response to Caleb giving Rebirth a 9/10 on stream now?
Speaking of. What's the final verdict on 7's steam port anyway? I understand it was changed for the worse at release, but I don't know if it was actually fixed and worth it now, or if I should still avoid it.
>>583798254Avoid it. Emulate Playstation.
>>583798303Will do, then, thanks.
>>583798376I think most mods you want are compatible with the Steam version, but I'm sure they are with the Playstation version.
>>583797134It cannot have any argument in good faith. It only knows rage, that cockroach.
>>583797992>>583801064I think you have spent a long time angry at some random anon for no good reason. What a shame. And /ffg/ will die before you ever got to explain what your problem with them was.
just a headsup, i havent posted since >>583793337
>>583801639Since you're still here: >>583794831
>>583781492Thanks bro
>>583801932I havent jimboposted in a long time, you do it for me. You will reply to yourself, you will bring it up yourself and end it yourself. Keep going.
>>583802030>you will bring it up yourselfBut nobody mentions him until you do. And then you disappear when asked a question about him and someone else shows up to talk about him instead, and they are always on your side, but also don't answer. And then you appear again, and the question has been dodged. And this has happened hundreds of times. I'm curious if the death of /ffg/ means you'll "all" have to forget about jimbo after 7 years of obsession.
>>583802436>And then you appear again, and the question has been dodged??
>>583802567He literally was right about everything in the end. Total victory.
>>583802716Neither I or anyone else here will be providing a single example that challenges that conclusion. Which is unusual considering how many of us would love to. But it makes sense when you know we simply cannot no matter how satisfying it would be. He was right. I admit it. About everything.
>the doomer secondary yoshicultists who didn't even play the game were right about literally everything, repeatedly, many times, continually, for years>the biggest fan in the entire world who spent 7 years running defense for VIIR all across the internet has never, not ever, not even once, ever been correct about anythingThis kind of phenomenon needs to be studied.
Is there stuff to like in the FFX expanded lore stuff? Audio dramas, etc. Ive replayed FFX so many times, never touched anything after that besides FFX-2 as a child, and never beat it. FFX is holy to me. Sacred. Its kinda absurd I have never checked out what happened past that. Im just scared. I probably should just to see what they did with it. I know Ill probably hate the new lore but I just want to be back in Spira again.
>>583808106If you ignore the bad stuff you'll quickly realise that everything they added to the lore and worldbuilding is good.
>>583808304This is how you actually feel and not falseflag at allthanks for contributing to FF discussion, Jimbo
>>583808304This post about FFX's lore is an attack on the FFVIIR fanbase. Myself included. In fact, just me.
>>583808106No. Everything they added just pollutes the original. Unless you are fine with the idea that Tidus after being brought back kicked a blitzball and blew himself up. Yuna brought him back to life again only to dump him a month later and Sin actually isn't dead it was just sleeping.
>>583808106For some people, the more sacred a game is to them, the more they like any expanded lore they get. However, I can only speak to my own opinion and experience. I like FFX, but I don't view it as holy or sacred or anything. Like for example, I do view CT as sacred and at this point I dread it getting even so much as an HD2D Remake with voice acting because I know it will get fucked up somehow, like how even in the otherwise pretty kino DS remaster, they added content (which ranges from bad to mid) still tries to retcon CC as being a sequel to Trigger when the only thing connecting the games at all is an info dump at the very end, but I digress. Anyway, FFX is not sacred to me, but I thought X-2 was a better game than X. Better and more fun, also more lighthearted. Some people think it pisses all over the veritable (but not actual) "misery porn" of X, but it's now the Eternal Calm, so it makes sense within the lore. They don't like that Yuna became a pop star, but she's like the most popular person in the world, she created the Eternal Calm, it makes sense that people would love her, and in a sense pop stars spread cheer throughout the world, which is kinda of what she's doing; she's going on a new pilgrimage across the world, to all the places she visited the first time, except this time it's not a misery porn death march. Some people hate that. I don't think it's all good, but after over a decade of not playing it because I thought it'd suck, I was very pleasantly surprised by it. Mostly from the gameplay and systems angle. It also has the best (and only actually good) minigame in the entire series, Creature Creator, and you don't even need to use YRP for the game if you don't want to, you can use your creatures. The audio drama is some lover's quarrel, woman wants attention so she starts a fight shit. I didn't read wherever Tidus blows himself up on a Blitzball.If it's sacred to you and if you take yourself too seriously, you'll probably hate it.
>>583812223I didn't realise Kuja was that much taller than Zidane
>>583812223>Lightning is the exact cutoff for a woman being taller than is ideal>everyone taller than her is a manPottery.
Duel'em
>>583812223IMAGINE
>>583812518>so eager to shitpost you don't see CelesGay test failed. Grim!
>>583817450>anon incorrectly believes his own failings are the failings of someone else>"so eager to shitpost you don't see Gaia! LMAOOOOOO"Lightning, Gaia, and Celes are basically the same height, little man.
>>583818042Who are you quoting?
>>583818475meant for >>583817450
>>583818042>>583818665Why keep digging? You said everyone taller than Lightning is a man, just because you wanted to shitpost. Celes is taller than Lightning and the hottest girl on the chart.You're a double fag because you don't want to post unless it's a pointless shitstirring shitpost, AND because you were blind to Celes due to the aforementioned shitposting addiction.
>>583820869>Celes is (...) the hottest girl on the chartYou are a man of culture, like me.
>>583820869meant for >>583817450
>>583821123>>583820869
>>583812223Everyone shorter than Prompto is not a man. Still a boy at best.
>>583822880>>583818475
Another day, another L for FFXIII.
enjoy dying again, retardsthanks jimbofucking faggot
>>583835972Jimbo should kill himself and make everyone happy.
I can't believe FFXVI killed the franchise.
Final fantasy girls at the pumpkin patch naked
which FF girl is the most spankable and why is it i dunno lol maybe farris?
>>583803650This post is holding strong, you love to see it
>/ffg/ when Jimbo
>>583840134Shut the fuck up already, Jimbo. You already ruined the general, kill yourself NOW.
>>583840134lmao it do be like thatbut it's really just one guy with the issue. /ffg/ as a whole doesn't care and the schizo detective has failed to explain to anyone here why they should. he just agrees with himself then sulks.
>>583840649How does posting opinions you agree with ruin a general? You should be glad others share your position. Would you rather he disagreed with you?
I'm sure I don't even need to say this as we've all witnessed this routine 100 times before. The schizo will scream about the evil jimbo, repeatedly, for hours. Never actually explaining why, but always alluding to some awful posting crimes that he's definitely guilty of. Eventually someone will ask him a question or seek some sort of explaination or clarifier. Then he shuts up. Sometimes "someone else" pops up immediately to show him support, and they "both" don't answer the question. They then cool off for a bit but resume where they left off a little later without having explained.We've been here many many times.
Retitle the series to Futa Fantasy. FF is saved. No need to thank me.
>>583840965Kill yourself, NOW. Nobody likes you, Jimbo. NOBODY.
>>583844581I like "Jimbo"
>>583845073I do too. If anyone actually told me why I shouldn't, maybe I'd change my mind. But strangely, no matter how many "different" people show up to say they hate him, none of them ever explain...
...maybe it's time to make the final update to the chart
>>583824394Actually should be>Everyone shorter than Cloud is not a man. Still a boy at best.
It’s funny that the general without the autistic links, pastbin, and pedophile OP has now lasted longer than the last four generals.
>>583857968It would be so easy to revive interest in Final Fantasy and stop this general from being a dnbJust create a new BRIGHT AESTHETIC world (no grimdark) and likable happy characters with CUTE GIRLS The girls must have likable personalities and unique designsFFX did both these things, with characters like Yuna and the bright tropical beach aesthetic, I'm not saying to copy FFX but more of that and less Game of Thrones 2dark4me shitRevamp the combat system, maybe like a modified FF7R system with more focus on souls-like iframe dodges and parries, needs to feel arcade-like and fun in short burstsNeeds amazing music too at least as good as Persona
>>583859207Grimdark is fine but FF16 is a lame ass grimdark which can't even commit.
>>583861008Grimdark is not fine no one wants a depressing grey/black colored emo Final FantasyNot even 8 was that
>>583857968>longer than the last four generalshttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/583266134/#q583266134Not even remotely true. Not the previous thread, but the one before that lasted 210 posts and 3 days.
>>583863536oh but it will be true anon
>>583863536seething pedo
Hello.I'm playing Lightning Returns in normal mode. Starting it in normal mode was a mistake, because I'm bad at action games that require reflexes.Is there a way to change the difficulty without having to start over?I'm playing the Steam version, by the way.
>>583873327>I'm playing Lightning ReturnsMy condoleanceses.
>>583873327You should just not play it and move on to something else.
Aerisu!
>>583874981No. The game is interesting and I like the combat. I just don't want it to be as difficult.
>>583873327Way better than XVI, for sure.
VIIR is shit.
>>583878558Final Fantasy House been real silent since that truth nuke dropped...
>>583873327The selected difficulty level is locked in for the duration of your playthrough. In Claire Returns, you cannot change the difficulty mode mid-playthrough.
>>583883641What a fucking shitty game. So Anon has to restart everything from the start. No wonder everyone hates it.
>>583878218I agree with you.
>>583883738Words. This is the worst FF game fr fr fr
I think above everything else the reason I don't like 16 more than other games like 13 or 15 is because I feel like I'm being preached to. This game is supposed to be mature yet it's very simple and juvenal at the end of the day.
At the end of the day, Beyond: Two Souls was just Final Fantasy: Spirits Within but better.
>>583774450>>583774558>>583774675>new creators>oh yeah, Final Fantasy XIII was my favoriteIt's all coming together
At the end of the day, Final Fantasy XVI was just Final Fantasy XIII tried to be, but better.
>>583888718Out of these three? Tifa, Tifa & Lunafreya.I don't like trannies.
>>583885218>I feel like I'm being preached toJoshua's long, meandering, boring death speech that takes 5 minutes of talking and gives zero new information was probably the shit icing on top of the fecal cake in that regard. Perhaps the most soulless and impactless shit ever. "Accept the truth" and "the truth" about Joshua's death was just yet another lie LOL. And people call Nomura writing fakedeepCompare XVI's verobosity and hollow depth to XV dialogue's brevity during emotional scenes that lands much harder. Nothing in FFXVI ever came close to Nocto's final line at the campfire of "Seeing you here now, it's…more than I can take." or Vanille's sacrificial proverb "Wishes can come true. But not if you just wait for miracles. Miracles are things we make for ourselves, here and now." The small and tender character dialogue moments is what Final Fantasy's tone is built on, that's where the depth and maturity comes from. Not endless diatribes and soapboxing
>583889637>Compare XVI's verobosity>verobosityOh no no no, ESL sis, this isn't looking good...
>>583873327I think you should keep moving forward, soldier. The game's not "hard" persay but I could see how someone would have some trouble and get filtered. It can be intense and there's a learning curve, one of the more difficult FF games no question
>>583889912The fatherless has the habit of constantly trying (and failing pathetically) to sound smarter than it is. Have you forgotten how he tried to lecture a native on his own language, using fucking ChatGPT of all things to support his headcanon? That cockroach is a laughingstock, and it doesn't even realize it.
If there's one thing we all know will make the local shitter samefag bump the thread 100+ times....it's a heroine meltdown.
>>583890190>Have you forgotten how he tried to lecture a native on his own language, using fucking ChatGPT of all things to support his headcanon?Hahaha yeah I remember that. After everyone started to clown on him, he mysteriously fell silent, then came back when everyone was asleep and it started to congratulate itself, going "wow you're so smart, not-me, you totally bodied them all, you're so good that you won against the entire general".This was so pathetic that I couldn't even comment on that, it was like watching a retarded child pretend to have tea with its dolls because it has no friends and no father.what a loser lmao
>>583859207Your post, it's irrefutable. Beaches, cute girls, bright color. Iterate on FFVIIR. Persona level musical variety with lots of jazz and experimental influences, not just generic orchestral strings. CS1 can do it
>>583841493>We've been here many many times.You know, it's funny you should say that
>>583890190>he tried to lecture a native on his own languagehe what now
>>583889637>Joshua's long, meandering, boring death speech that takes 5 minutes of talking and gives zero new informationZero information for both Clive and the player. It felt very strange to me. The whole scene seemed awkward and artificially drawn-out. >XV dialogue's brevity during emotional scenes that lands much harderNo shit, despite that total mess they called a script, XV managed to evoke far more emotion with its story than XVI, that's true.
At the end of the day Final Fantasy XIII is the best and Final Fantasy XVI is the worst.
>>583893592Everybody's saying it
>>583893592The only positive thing I can say XVI has going for it is the voice acting. Everything else about it was low quality that betrayed fan expectations.
Damn, the fatherless is really desperate.
>>583893592>Final Fantasy XVI is the worst.>>583894473>Everybody's saying itAnd nobody's playing it!
>>583898862Yup. It's weakly baiting for (You)s in the most fatherlessly possible way.
>>583898862I see you're still squirming despite the death of the death general, samefag schizo. Can't let go? Have you blessed a different community with your mental illness yet?
>>58389359213 and 16 are both dogshit. Same goes for 14 and 15.
>>583898862You struck a nerve, it's projecting like mad.
>>58390174613 was a victim of being too experimental at the time. Run forward cutsceneslop games are commonplace nowadays but back then it got dogged on for doing what a lot of other games do now. At the very least it had an immaculate and unique aesthetic to it.15 was a victim of being too ambitious and failing at its execution. I can appreciate everything it tried to do even if it failed at all of it.16 wasn’t ambitious enough. It really didn’t do anything original, it just tried to emulate what came before it. It was baby’s first character action game, a cheap knockoff of other games that did it better. The aesthetic was bleak and generic. The story was nothing special. The game was 5% hype moments and 95% the most bland and boring shit you’ve ever had to trudge through. I don’t appreciate anything about XVI.
>>583890841>>583890502>>583889925>>583888375>>583883641All women should look and dress like that. But they don't.Why???
The game isn't even out yet and they're already rolling out tie-in collabs. You can see how aggressively SE is pushing to shill this game. The sheer scale of the marketing has already gone far beyond anything you would normally expect for a spinoff title.
>>583898862Irrefutable.
>>583906960nigga you really bitching about the most consumerist nation on the planet putting out useless shit for a video game?
>>583912509You're right, it's not SE's fault. It's the fault of Japan's consumerism.
>>583872470Nope, just the thread fact checker. >>583906960They didn't need to spend any money making the game since it was already made, so they get to spend all of the Asano budget on marketing instead. You think that this is a good thing, either because you're a BEape or because you want to win an argument against people who might not even exist despite deciding that they are your mortal enemies, but what's happening right now is an IQ check; Square Enix is asking you if you'll be happy paying $50 for an RPGmaker game that they didn't even make as long as they call it Final Fantasy, and you are about to jump up and down like a giddy little school girl, soifacing your heart out, screaming "YES!!" just so that you can "pwn" a tulpa which you created yourself. >>583912509>you really bitchingHe's not bitching, he's bragging. He believes he is currently winning some shitpost war which he has been waging for years.
>>583912630Unironically, yes.
>>583917403Is YoshiP in charge of marketing now?
>>583803650Could we get a fact check on this?
>>583922657Fact checkers say you're a faggot.
>>583803650>>583922657I've checked the facts... and... it's true! And it will remain true indefinitely while >>583923436 seethes and vagueposts in the corner.
>>583924051Fact checkers also reporting now this poster is also a faggot.
>>583924051It appears you are correct
>>583925039It appears you are also a faggot.
>>583921096You jest, but he is chipping in a bit.
>>583928830Translated
>>583928830>>583929213truly the most powerful man at SE
XIII Days until Final Fantasy Resonance releases.Defy destiny and discover where the road leads.Art by Isamu Kamikokuryo | Art Director of FF XIII
>>583928830>>583929213After all, Y'shtola and Clive are BY FAR the most popular Vision previews.
>>583930016damn even Kamikokuryo can't be assed to draw that bitch anymore
>>583929303Powerful men don’t get demoted.
>>583929303It is known.
>>583929303He lives rentfree in everyone's heads. His fans, and the one guy who hates him so much he can't stop thinking about him.
>>583935061>He lives rentfree in everyone's heads. His fansI'd like to point out that most of "his fans" don't even think about him. It's the mindbroken schizo constantly bringing him up that prompts me to post Yoshida. I only post him because it makes the schizo angry. I have no real opinion of Yoshida himself. Though I will say, he's done less wrong than his Square Enix Final Fantasy contemporaries. I still think they should let Yoko Taro make a Final Fantasy though. Everyone else except him just sucks.
>>583935659>I only post him because it makes the schizo angrynot gonna lie bro, that's kinda based
Ratatan is almost out, I'm excited.
>>583940676Off-topic. Also looks soulless compared to Patapon.
>>583941619>old good>new badOkay sheeple.
>>583935659>I still think they should let Yoko Taro make a Final Fantasy though.Yoko Taro doesn't want to do shit except make another neir automata.
>>583935659>I still think they should let Yoko Taro make a Final Fantasy thoughNo.
>>583935659>I still think they should let Yoko Taro make a Final Fantasy though.Many people feel similarly.
>>583946091>ad populumFallacy.
>>583946091>CHADllacy
>>583930627Yeah but where's Sora?
>>583950968Remember when SE were so protective of their IP they only allowed Cloud into Smash under strict conditions?And now Sora is in Fortnite and Tifa is in Street Fighter and Sephiroth is coming to Sonic Racing.I don't think the cure to FF7 fatigue is yet more FF7 saturation but it's not like SE have any other ideas.
>>583950968not to be confused with the final fantasy series, final fantasy 7 and the final fantasy 7 series
>>583942517It feels bad because they made it a generic rogue like. I played the demo unless they have radically changed the system. It's the same thing as hades, and slay the spire, and now Moonlighter. I'm sick of it. It was fine at first and now it's a crutch.
>>583950968>>583951450[Good News]The Final Fantasy VII: Remake series (distinct from the Final Fantasy series or even just Final Fantasy VII) looks like it might be trying to become the new Persona 5!
>>583951450Playing devil's advocate, this is sadly not exclusive to them. Whoring out IPs and characters in crossovers has been the go-to strategy for most major video game compagnies for years now.
>>583951651More like the next Nier: Automata
>>583728456Sad yet funny. Anyways,>Duellum > Rebirth>Resonance and the whole BE universe > XIII universeSorry, I don't make the rules.
>>583950968Square Enix will do A N Y T H I N G but bring Final Fantasy to Fortnite.
>>583951689Unfortunately, Automata's gimmick is that it features attractive women in sexually suggestive fetish clothing. Final Fantasy VII's gimmick is that it features the recognizable likenesses of characters from a popular series that have been rigorously sanitized for approval by the ethics department. Final Fantasy VII is much closer to Persona 5 in this regard.
>>583951883its just gonna be FF7 anyways so whatever
>>583951496>old good, new bad
>>583951665When I first heard the news, I considered assigning blame to SE and criticizing them. But when I thought about it a little more, I realised it was once again the world's fault, not SE. It's not fair to blame them.
>>583952449Sure, you do you.
>>583952275More like they are trying to capitalize off of something years too late.
>>583951703All way better than XVI and XIV btwSorry, I don't make the rules.
>>583950968kek
>>583950968Square Enix knows Revelation is going to sell even worse than Rebirth. That's why they're suddenly whoring it out, in the hopes that they'll get anyone else to buy it. The XIV crossover isn't to "save" XIV, it's to save Final Fantasy VII Revelation.
>>583751976The bestest
>>583952656If you want to blame SE, go ahead. But I don't agree.
>>583956050you seem to think 7R is a live service game or meant to only be played/sold next year.
>>583961839...no? What?
>>583962313your "analysis" of SE's marketing only makes sense if you believe 7R needs to immediately recoup all development cost. That's not how any single player offline game works. That is only how live service/yearly installments work.
>>583963526>your "analysis" of SE's marketing only makes sense if you believe 7R needs to immediately recoup all development cost.Nope!
>>583963906Slut
>>583950968XVI bros...
>>583964325FFXVI is a shit game with no cultural impact, unfortunately.
You can tell the fatherless loser got banned from /v/ again, it's seething.
>>583964871Everyone is saying this
>>583950968Based. >>583965304>>583951703You tripped off the bot.
>>583966271It doesn't take much to trigger the fatherless' programming.
>>583963576I accept your concession.
>>583953373>All way better than XVI and XIV btwIrrefutable, sadly.
>>583953373The bar couldn't be lower
The after years should come on switch
>>583966576>makes a false declaration>doesn't explain reasoning>declares himself the victor after explaining nothingVIIRgins...
>>583966795Indeed, indeed.
>>583953373Truth Ultima
>>583969234>doesnt contest point>just flounders saying "nu uh">expects to automatically winfatherless...
>>583970723>fatherless...Nope!How about you attempt to explain the logic behind it? Why do you falsely and incorrectly believe that I need to necessarily be talking about live service sales?
That revelations steel book looks awesome
>>583970916>Square Enix knows Revelation is going to sell even worse than Rebirth.This is an irrelevant (also an unfalsifiable assertion making it pointless to say) statement because 7R and every mainline FF is not marketed to be a flash in the pan sell billions day one all attention needed up front. They are "evergreen" or "staple" games to the company's larger catalog meant to generate revenue over years/decades not weeks.> That's why they're suddenly whoring it out, in the hopes that they'll get anyone else to buy it.VII has been being "whored out" since the early 2000s. This is neither new or sudden unless you under the age of five.> The XIV crossover isn't to "save" XIVThe XIV crossover is very much meant to generate new subscriptions for XIV. That is literally the only way XIV makes money. Monthly subs from outside interest to grow population.> it's to save Final Fantasy VII Revelation.Nothing needs to "save" Revelation and the only reason you would think that was needed is if you also think SE has to immediately make up every cent spent to develop it as if it was a CoD or sportslop yearly installment.Now fuck off and kill yourself you retarded faggot ass loser.
>>583971928>This is an irrelevantWell, already I can't take your post seriously. Want to try again?
>>583972305Damn you're bad at this.
>>583972369I skimmed your post and found that what actually made you mad is that I said the XIV crossover is not attempting to bring people to XIV, but rather to get XIV players to purchase Final Fantasy VII Remake (Rebirth Revelation)So it turns out you were just projecting. (You) are thinking in live service sales, and you projected that onto me.
>>583972560>I skimmed your postNot my post. Sorry to burst your fatherless bubble, but, AGAIN, there's more than one person disagreeing with you here.
>>583972687Alright, well (You) and (notYou) are both mad about and saying the same thing.
In sonic racing, Cloud will be riding>his motorcycle>his chocobo>his tifaso many options...
I hate minigames. Please tell me Revelation has way fewer minigames than the previous games.
>>583976337There's going to be so many minigames and menial tasks that you will be able to skip the entire "meat" of the game and just skip ahead to the end and automatically level yourself up.
new theory is uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIH44ihs2E
>>583979334The superior blonde MC.
>>583979334What's wrong with his mouth?>>583975426And he can't breed any of them in your "remake" that actually removes stuff, lol
>>583979334I wish XVI had a party...
>>583985145Got laughed out of /v/, huh?
>>583985145I wish XVI was actually fun.
>>583985413I wish your mom would stop asking me to fuck her in the ass.
>>583985413I wish Soken wasn't such a hack.
>>583985413For all I rail about 16. I find the game fun. Maybe it's because I broke in in half with a stagger build so I get to see the numbers go up a lot. It could be better though, the story is just obnoxious I just finished the leviathan DLC and characters feel like they're just talking past each other at this point.
Having a real playable party would fix 90% of XVI's problems and no one would accuse it for not being an RPG.
>>583990672>accuse it for not being an RPGenglish's hard, huh
>>583976337god the minigames in ffx were a mistake
>[Good News] announced for VIIR>VIIRgins most upset about itEvery. Single. Time. Looks like the [Good News] was so devastating for him that he's determined to keep this thread alive with XVI shitposts.
i keep this thread alive just to spite the pedOP
I love that Rain and Lasswell and Fina are coming back. Even better without the gacha.I wonder how far it will go.
>>583993197> Rain and Lasswell and Finawho?
>>583993197Hopefully it will turn into another trilogy and another 10 years of Brave Exvius. Nothing says "this is Final Fantasy" nowadays more than it being a trilogy.
RebirthAnon here. Still just exploring the world, leveling up, getting loot, towers. Etc.Althrough Ive yet to dive into the story, Im fully sold on this game. Its very relaxing and fun. I like having these legendary party with me, love playing as each character. Its really fun to focus on one for a while and swapping when you want the gameplay to be different.My concerns about the open world are completely gone. This is fun. Hope I can recruit Yuffie soon. I want to play as her. Wondering if I should focus on story so I can get closer to that
I'm finally getting to the final quest in 16. It really feels like Dion and Joshua were supposed to be lovers but they cut it for time and probably because Joshua is too important. There are just lines that imply it that they didn't cut though. >>5839960127R is a game I wish I could love. The characters are great but the meta bullshit and all the fartsniffing about how they hid that this was basically a sequel soured me on it. They ruined all of the best midgard scenes in the remake because they couldn't have the heroes fail at anything. The plate drop scene was a really good failure scene. That they fucked up for no reason. President Shinra talking about his stupid golden gun made me so fucking mad. I might pirate rebirth because the character interactions between the group are all really great but I'm not going to spend more money on it out of principle.
>>583971928There's a simple question I'd like to ask you, but I have a feeling you're just going to get angry. In fact there's a high chance that just raising the possibility of the question being asked is enough to anger you.
>>583996012>Hope I can recruit Yuffie soon. I want to play as her. Wondering if I should focus on story so I can get closer to thatYes, you should focus on the story and move on from Grasslands. You can come back later on pretty much whenever. The game gets so much better when you hit Junon/Costa/Corel/Golden Saucer, especially because of Yuffie's arrival.You'll unlock Yuffie in Costa Del Sol but she'll pop up as soon as you reach Under Junon
>>583971928Apt.
Well 16's ending was as unsatisfying as the rest of the game. I don't know how removing magic stops all the magical creatures that can use aether. It doesn't seem like the aetherfloods or the blighted lands were removed. It feels like it's baiting for a sequel but I highly doubt this will get the FFXIII treatment.
>>583999872He decided to pat himself on the back (again) instead of replying to you.
>>584003769Almost as stupid as stopping the whole world's dependency on mako energy and materia
>>584008263Wait, I'm confused, why would it be stopping to help the world get independant from an energy source that is literally destroying it?
So, I installed attack (x1.3) and health (x1.3) mods for Rebirth, and now I can't beat Midgardsormr on Hard difficulty. Any enemy (except for orcs and mu squirrels) just wipes the floor with me. What do?
>>583930016>there will never be another fragrant-type game with Kamikokuryo being art directorIt's over.
Ha, the cockroach has been laughed out of /v/ again...
>>583999872Guess you'll never know then.
>>584009189Because the entire world economy relies on it?
>>584020969in 7's case the world was on not-mako 20 years ago, so it'll be fine
>>584020969>cosmo canyon>wutai>ancient village>bone village>rocket villageyeah bro the entire world economy relies on it except half the world
>>584023890Nothing but 3rd world wastelands if you ask me
>>584025025You died in the gayest possible way, shut up.Penetrated from behind by the world's longest sword.
>>584015943Good.
>>584015943Bad
Rebirth sold nearly 400k copies on Steam alone in September.
>>584028108Perhaps Rebirth sales discussion is important after all
>>584028108>Rebirth outsold RemakeBut wait, ffg told me no one bought Rebirth!?!?!?
>>584028108Thank you. THANK YOU. This is exactly what we needed to hear.
>>584028108is this while it was like 10 dollars? not surprising>>584028308turns out they did. is your insecurity cured yet?
>>584028108I bet this will make my internet adversary so upset. Can't wait.
>>584028108Where's XVI tho?18-month plan believers-sisters...
>>584028108Redditbirth shitposter has been really quiet since this NUKEM dropped
>>584028661>Rebirth: 4,939 24-hour peak>Remake: 5,412 24-hour peak>XVI: 1,450 24-hour peakNobody cares about XVI.
My favourite thing is when FF fans celebrate a win for their game by showing proof it's preformed better than another FF game that has preformed quite badly.
>>584028661
>>584028968The Final Fatnazi House has been bringing up XVI a whole lot since this was posted. Curious, don't you think?
>>584008263I mean there's a bunch to compare and contrast. Mako is an energy source that comes from the land but materia is not. Materia and magic naturally occurs in FF7. In 16, magic just kind of exists from an alien space race. The problem with it for me is that if Aether use causes blights than how do aether floods form without utterly destroying the land. There doesn't seem to be any consistency in how aether works and killing all magic seems to be doing nothing. Like Bahamut used an insane amount of aether more than titan and he survived until the plot said he shouldn't. Yet his actions didn't spread the blight at all. On a sidenote, we technically don't even know if he died either.
>>584034701materia is concentrated mako anonit's not natural
>>584034701I will say if Dion is in the final cut scene I got so bored of it at that point that I wasn't paying attention. So that last point could be on me. I checked out halfway through clearing out all the quests. I was going to replay it but I got halfway through the Katos gates before I had a error losing all my progress and just decided to quit. I doubt much would change. Ultima's abilities weren't that any better than my bahamut, Ramuh, Odin Stagger spam into massive damage.>>584034847We literally see naturally occurring materia in the nibelheim flashback. It doesn't occur at the levels that we see them in stores but they do occur.
>>584034847>it's not naturalMateria can literally form naturally, you get at least three cutscenes explaining that. And two of them are different.
>>584034847>>584035208no one cares about your remake lore lil broin the og materia is artifical
>>584036124I haven't even played Rebirth, retard. I was referencing the original series.
>>584036124You absolute fucking moron, materia can occur naturally in the real FFVII, have you forgotten Shinra's quest to find and weaponize the mega-materia? Or Sephiroth during the flashback explaining to Tifa & Co that materia forms naturally in places rich in Mako? You fucking babboon.
>>584036124How embarassing, the fatherless never even played the real FFVII game. Yikes!
Oh look, "natural materia" that spawned by itself! Wow! Who could've thoughted that this was possible! If only the game explained!*snort*The game explains nothing!ACK ACK ACKBugged storytelling! *burps*Online plot explanation! Beginner's trap!
>>584036616>B...You don't think...? No... no it couldn't be...
>>584036616Hold on a minute...
>>584036616You broke the shitposter's mind, he's stuttering incoherently.
>>584036616>FRHon hon hon
>>584036616>french
>>584036616>inb4 it agrees with itself
>>584036803>>584036616hey remind me real quick why they are there and what's sitting on top of that cave?oh right a fucking reactor that's malfunctioning and the whole place is full of mako
>>584028108Sales were never important. /ffg/ has never cared about sales. Only shitposters have ever even mentioned sales....Unless...
>>584028108Wait, I have a question too. Does it matter for the narrative that these sales cost $10 each? Is that good news or bad news?
>>584042617Well, this might sound contradictory, but while Metaphor outselling Revelation didn't count because they were deep sales, a third party saying Rebirth is selling well counts a lot especially because of the deep sales. I hope you understand.
>>584042886I see. That's a bit hard to follow, but I think I got it.
>>584042886This almost sounds nonsensical and contradictory... but I found a way to make it work.And yes, I feel Rebirth's sales figures becoming more important by the minute.What about GOTY awards? Still irrelevant or are they also having their importance reassessed?
>>584036616You struck a massive nerve, it immediately deflected.
>>584028108>hamaguchi said rebirth is selling several times better than expected>it actually is
>>584042886Breaking kayfabe for a moment to say how much I love that he constantly fucks himself over with his own logic. He sets the "rules" and all we have to do is follow them. Don't argue with his logic, simply agree with it, and in no time, his own reasoning bites him in the ass. No matter how many times he fucks up it's still funny.
>>584043591What's his secret?
>>584043649>He sets the "rules" and all we have to do is follow themI mean isn't that literally what happened with the poll? The retardus maximus said that he'd respect the poll no wonder while VIIR was in the lead, but once he started losing to the superior FFXVI, suddenly the poll was "spammed" and "unreliable" and everyone who disagreed with him was the same guy samefagging to ruin his poll.Or was it FFXIV that it lost to? It was the poll for the best FF to start the franchise with, right? Probably XIV, then.
>>584043368>What about GOTY awards? Still irrelevant or are they also having their importance reassessed?I have a feeling that if Revelation wins or is nominated for GotY, they will matter quite a lot. We will probably even use them as shitpost fuel for flamewarring, both within and without. However, the nanosecond that Revelation doesn't win, god forbid, GotY will no longer be important and it will just be shill shit... EXCEPT when E33 won every award... there was no shilling involved with that either. After all, why would a small, wealthy, extremely well connected indie studio of a mere 33 people (and hundreds more outsourced) even want to buy a year's worth of awards for their game? It just doesn't make any sense.
>>584043903https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/552279106/#q552596948He did say he was excited and that he'd accept the results of the poll no matter what. He also mused whether or not the results were going to be contested. ...but then when games he didn't like kept getting votes, he'd delete the option from the poll entirely, which would then cause the votes to "reset", because when he added the option back, it didn't remember the votes it used to have, of course. And then he'd delete all the votes as a daily "reset" for some reason. All while no one except him could see the black box of what he was doing.
>>584044618>he'd delete the option from the poll entirely, which would then cause the votes to "reset", because when he added the option back, it didn't remember the votes it used to haveWow. WOW. That is extraordinarily scummy and miserable and sad and pathetic.Just to be sure, which one of the VIIRgins did that? I suspect the fatherless loser since he gets so anal whenever it's brought up, but I'd rather be sure, since I wasn't around when it happened.
>>584044819Just look at the archives link, anon. The guy running the poll is the only one capable of deleting options.
>>584044913keklmao
A thought experiment:(I'm going to round to 500 and 1000 and 400k for easier math)If 1000 reviews = 400k sales @ $10then 500 reviews = 200k sales @ $20So it's possible that the amount of money generated by each game is basically the same. Especially once you consider that XVI cost *HALF* of what Remake and Rebirth each cost to produce.
>>584045150That's a very true post. I think that guy has thrown like 5 or 6 different tantrums about his own poll at this point. Maybe more.
>>584045362anything to make XVI flopping look less embarrassing I guess.
>>584046640Here's the thing - XVI never "flopped", it received a sales celebration announcement 6 days after release. Rebirth is pretty much the only game that Square Enix has never had a sales announcement for. It's the only Square Enix game on the "chopping block", as it were, unless you want to start counting things like Foamstars (which Rebirth's was mentioned alongside) or Killer Inn. The only game with "something to prove" right now is Rebirth, which is why anon keeps updating us about how many copies it sold @ a $10 deep discount. But other posts were wondering where XVI is, so I posted the little thought experiment. It might be ~200k sales @ $20, based on Rebirth's own numbers, which would put the revenue generated at being basically the same, with XVI costing half as much to produce as well.
>>584047019t.
>>584047019The report that said XVI cost half of what it took to make Remake and Rebirth also said it only sold 3.5 million copies as of May 2025, AND gave us this gem. If the development cost is true then the rest concerning XVI must also be true, right?
>>584047081I accept your concession. >>584047274>If the development cost is true then the rest concerning XVI must also be true, right?We already did this, little man, and it didn't go the way you wanted it to go, remember? Yes, it is true that XVI cost *HALF* of what Remake and Rebirth *each* cost to produce, and it is also true that a Metacritic review (taken from Metacritic) said the things in your image.
>>584047274That picture you cling to so desperately has been debunked many times as propaganda to make SE look worse than it is.
>>584047469AND it did 3 million in one week, then only another .5 million after an additional two years and Steam release. The game had zero sales legs.
>>584047469>>584047597the cult has dropped the facade and gone on the defensive.
Duellum
>rebirth: 400k in one month one one platform>xvi: 500k after two yearsRebirth did in one month on one platform what XVI did in two years.
>>584047678What are you even talking about? I'm replying to a post directed at me. >>584047603According to Rebirth's sales and reviews, it sold 200k copies last month alone, generating the same amount of revenue that Rebirth did. Of course, that's just a thought experiment and unless they tell us numbers we can't know for sure. Same for Rebirth's sales.
>>584047885>little retard thinks that was a samefag accusationthe cult is many but all are equally stupid.
>>584047885>it sold 200k copies last month aloneDouble that, actually, not even counting PS5 and Switch 2 sales >>584028108
>>584047969>>little retard thinks that was a samefag accusationI posted that to show you which post I am, anon. You are getting extremely angry right now for some reason. >>584048025Calm down anon, we only even have any sort of inkling about Steam.
>>584047849No one cares about XVI
>>584047678Just so you know, projecting your own attitude toward VIIR won't magically make you right.
>>583991389 (me)How does this keep happening? Why does all [Good News] for VIIR cause VIIRgins to get angry and melt down?
>>584048228
>>584048253>>584048280The cult is so angry right now sadly.
>>584048473>he said the thingThat sure didn't take long
This general never misses an opportunity to shitpost whenever we get any kind of news.
>>584048571but no one was talking about jimbo?
>>584048673We're still waiting to hear a single example of something he was wrong about
>>584048610My entire life revolves around F5ing Square Enix news so that I can make my bogeyman upset with the [Good News] before he makes me upset with the [Good News]
>>584049134Don't hold your breath. You'll be waiting a looong time.
>>584048571You stuck a nerve, it's answering itself and trying to deflect.
>>584050320You've proven time and time again that you are genuinely too stupid for the anonymous schizo fights that this thread is.
>>584050675>no u!Ok Paulie.
Interesting there is a sign that says Mt. Kolts once you depart for the slums in sector seven after meeting Aerith in the original.
>>584050839You're like an AI chatbot, but you're like the "SmarterChild" era of AI chatbot where you just say random shit and sometimes it's applicable, but usually you don't even know what the conversation is about.
>>584048571>>584050839Interesting how Paulie always, ALWAYS react to this picture by projecting even more.It's like that cockroach is instantly triggered and loses xis brain.
Is paulie like the Yamcha of /ffg/?A disappointing failure that makes everyone more depressed by just existing.
>>584051528>A disappointing failure that makes everyone more depressed by just existing.sounds like XVI
>>584051528He's like the Skyler of /ffg/
>>584051528You angered Paulie by asking that, xe immediately deflected. AGAIN.
>>584051793Lol so true!
Another day, another W for FFXVI.
another Wet Fart for FFXVI
>>584062805You really got under Paulie's skin, xe immediately tried to parrot you and failed miserably. Another L for that cockroach.
>xvi is seemingly the most beloved game on /ffg/ by a wide margin according to the poll>rarely, if ever gets any positive discussion on /ffg/
>>584069237>the pollThat's because XVI was spammed with hundreds of votes all night and day by the butthurt fatherless spammer using a VPN. He literally bragged about doing this for hours of his life. When the first night of votes were posted and FFXVI had less votes than XIII, the spammer asked for the link. Suddenly moments later, dozens and dozens of votes start getting spammed one after another every 30 seconds. During the middle of the night here in America, btw. All of the votes were for XVI, XIV, or Tactics. He came to /ffg/ periodically inbetween spamming to brag about his work, and how XVI/XIV/Tactics deserve to win. Despite the vote totals being private. Very funny huh?I tallied vote totals into a document before hitting reset at midnight. Then I watched him squirm, removed/restored each of the vote options that he kept spamming, he got so mad that I was cockblocking him he started to spam other games that his boogieman likes. VIIR, XV and Stranger of Paradise got spam while he cried in /ffg/, "why won't he delete VIIR?"Then write-in votes got spammed, things like "I can do this all day with a VPN", "10/10 FFXVI" and other buzzwords crying about Paulie/Lightning. Most games only got 1-4 votes each on a daily basis but FFXVI somehow went from no votes on day one to ~100 votes before the sun had risen on day two. I blogposted about this meltdown as it happened, and posted evidence of vote spam. It was very hilarious. Somehow this means I'm a liar though, but not the guy spamming the poll. The fatherless spammer honestly believes that spamming and trolling on this website means he wins. Definitely not a White man.Want to know the best part? He's never played the game. This post will be unrefuted and he will reply to himself. Can't play FFXVI because his shitty laptop PC can't run it and his 250GB HDD is too small. FFXVI is championed and defended tooth and nail by a schizophrenic ESL spammer who has never played the game.
>>584048228It's true. So little care about it at all, its sole fan on /ffg/ (who has never played it) thinks that there's only one guy that hates on it. That's how dire the situation really is. Only one fan, only one hater.
>>584045362>>584047019I have a question for Mr unbiased, since you're still here constantly defending XVI instead of ignoring posts you don't like about Yoshida's games. How can it be a good thing that FFXVI doesn't have momentum, nor any kind of positive or worthwhile discussions hanging around it? Is FFXVI good for the FF series JUST because (You) claim that it did well financially? (when Bloomberg and SE claim otherwise)Let's say XVI is "not a flop" as a thought experiment. Why should anyone care when the game sucks ass? SE makes money on all kinds of deals and we don't work at SE. We really should only care about whether a game is a good FF game, or not. Because that's what is going to lead to further FF games in the future, more worthwhile experiences for us to discuss and recommend for others to share. A good game tends to do that, influencing more good games to get madeFFXVI could have sold 10 million copies on the PS5 like the gun and ball game they tried to market it as, generating a ton of revenue for SE instead of vaporizing 2 billion in stock evaluation. But FFXVI would still be a very bad FF game that gamers and the company alike don't want to discuss. The fact that people aren't playing, modding or talking about it at all just 3 years after release is a really bad sign. Revenue has absolutely nothing to do with it. The game simply doesn't move the needle at all.FFXVI's quality can't/won't/will never generate a quarter of the eyeballs and interest that most FF games before and after were able to generate. So again I ask very succinctly. How can the FFXVI situation possibly be considered anything but a stinking failure? Will you ever admit that reality indeed reflects poorly on FFXVI's quality and value as a game in the FF series? Or can you only ever defend XVI while attacking Rebirth (the better FF game) while shitposting sales updates and budgets for the 1000th time
>>584051528He's just like Jimbo actually. Imaginary. A delusional projection cooked up by a schizophrenic. Just like with Jimbo, anyone here who actually posts about FF has been accused of being Paulie at least once.
>>584079346nta but cut this down to four questions without all the padding and I'll answer them.
>>584079346Yeah, I'm not reading this. If you're angry and shitposting and actually want people to read it, don't type a max length reply.
>>584047885>>584048253He said the cult he didn't say one person, cultists-sisters.
>>584085659see >>584047885>What are you even talking about? I'm replying to a post directed at me. Once again, I posted an image so that you would know which post I was. If you could just at least pretend to read, you'd already know this.
>>584047274We do believe information from reports when it works to our advantage! But we don't believe information when investors express their opinions on XVI's results in the form of Metacritic reviews! That doesn't matter! XVI is absolutely not a failure!
>>584086089see >>584047469>We already did this, little man, and it didn't go the way you wanted it to go, remember?>Yes, it is true that XVI cost *HALF* of what Remake and Rebirth *each* cost to produce, and it is also true that a Metacritic review (taken from Metacritic) said the things in your image.You're really, really bad at this.
>>584086089Neither 16 nor Rebirth are financial failures in the sense of not generating net revenue. In all likelihood, they have been generating it for a long time.Both 16 and Rebirth are considered failures from investor's perspective, as the growth trajectory isn't steep enough for their liking.16 is a nothingburger in terms of cultural impact, whereas Rebirth continues to engage players worldwide somehow.Hope this helps.
>>5840869474 million sales at 70 dollars is still only 280 million generously assuming everyone buys it at MSRP. Not counting the 30% that retailers take. The end result when you account the marketing is only barely breaking even if that. It's not even about investors you need to do more than break even to continue. If it wasn't for 14 Squenix would have had another bankruptcy.
>>584079346He likes to defend Yoshi’s honor with all might, yet naturally realizes that doing so openly would be foolish, hence the persona of a Twitter fact-checker who cares only about the facts. Surprisingly, whenever he shows up, VIIR’s shitposting tends to appear right along. But that’s clearly a mistake and just our imagination. Stop noticing things, you little man, you don’t understand a thing, he just wants to state the facts, he’s not actually a cultist!
>>584087537At least Yoshikek realizes he screwed up and acknowledged that SE has a general problem with long game development cycles. When is Kiryu’s pipeline actually supposed to kick in? We’ve been discussing this for two or three years now. Is it supposed to start this year? Next year? Last year?
The butthurt samefaggotry begins. Tonight might be a long night, boys. Buckle in.
Shitter also likes to project a lot. But the thing is, HE is not even here.
>>584079970>>584084193>>584084718>>584085659The cult got triggered that someone actually talks about FFXVI and immediately scrambled to try about anything else.
>>584088893>makes a max length shitpost>is butthurt no one wants to read it
>>584089149>projecting againYoshi-retard...
>>584088893You struck a nerve, Paulie is seething AGAIN.
>>584089191Not projecting anything. I'm telling it how it is. Reminder: I am including this image so the mass replier knows which post is mine. I didn't want to read a max length shitpost, and now someone is butthurt about it. Actually, 2 of the quoted posts are just telling the max length shitposter to make a shorter post.
>makes a max length shitpost>is butthurt no one wants to read ita few moments later>a max length shitpost, and now SOMEONE is butthurt about itVery bad situation. That being said, still better than XVI!
>/ffg/ *completely* dead for 2 weeks>suddenly springs to life on a Saturday night>the only thing happening is schizophrenia and shitpostsGenuinely, what happened? Did WoW Forever finally run out of content? Did the new [Good News] about Rebirth sales finally give us enough momentum to overcome the [Good News] hurdle about Revelation leveling you up to the recommended level so you can skip all the bloat?
>>584090156>all the bloatBut enough about XVI's side quests.
>>584090220...okay? Feel better now, or are you gonna keep going for another 16 hours?
>>584090156>Genuinely, what happened?The VIIR cult happened.Unironically literally what happened: the Final Fantasy House killed all discussion in the entire general because if someone talks about VIIR, someone might criticize it, and if someone talks about another better game, people might comment that it's better than VIIR, so the cult pre-emptively brings up FFXVI constantly and does its best to kill any discussion before VIIR can get cricitized.And if it does get criticized, t-then you're a cultist pedophile Epstein republican evil person so your're are opinion isn't worth shit, a-and FFXVI that you clearly love more than your own life is even worse!!!1111!!!Don't you love seeing the FFH projects?
>>584090454That is indeed what happened here, and that is in large part what killed /ffg/ discussion, but that doesn't answer where the Final Fantasy House has been for the past 2 weeks. For the past 2 weeks, something else has been more important to the Final Fantasy House than shitting up /ffg/, but today was the day that all changed. I'm just curious what the change was. Maybe it was both, maybe it was the new [Good News] combined with finally being done with WoW Forever's content, who knows. That's what I'm curious about. Why come back alive now?
>>584090310I’ll keep doing this until we’re all on the same page and agree that XVI is the worst game in the series. It’s necessary, you have to understand that. You know how war veterans are on remembrance days? They’ve lived through the horrors of war, yet they strive to remember it so it never happens again. We need to do the same: always remember the horrors of XVI so they never repeat themselves.>>584090156XVI cult happened actually. For a long time, even before the release of Trash FFXVI, people disliked what Yoshi-P was doing, and this gave rise to a few resentful individuals (or perhaps just one "Barry-type" person) whose life's purpose became defending their idol's honor to the bitter end.
My competition list.Final Fantasy III (3D Remake)Final Fantasy VIIFinal Fantasy XFinal Fantasy XIIIFinal Fantasy XIV (No expansions)Final Fantasy XVFinal Fantasy VII RemakeLightning ReturnsFinal Fantasy: Crisis Core (2007)All the Final Fantasies I have beaten. Which should take priority next, mainline or otherwise. FFX is my favorite. And dont ask why I beat FFXIII and Lightning Returns but not FFXIII-2, I cant even remember why.
>>584090802Who knows. Maybe the fatherless loser has been laughed out of /v/ AGAIN. Or maybe it's been laughed out of /khg/ for the upteenth time and it's seething and crying and malding about it so it comes here to shitpost and cry like the weak tranny it is.
>>584090873I'm not going to engage with you until you answer why you decided to shit up /ffg/ after leaving it alone for 2 entire weeks. >>584090940>Maybe the fatherless loser has been laughed out of /v/ AGAINOh yeah, that is another possibility. Maybe he got banned on /v/. Though he's an evader, so it wouldn't even matter if he had been banned. I really think that he probably ran out of things to do in WoW Forever and then also saw some Rebirth sales [Good News] and felt empowered by it.
>>584090881Just play VIII, IX, XIII-2 and Tactics. They are the last worthy games you haven't played.
>>584090454You struck a nerve, the VIIR Cult immediately parroted you but tried to make it about Yoshida instead.How is Yoshida so powerful that he lives in these trannies' heads rentfree, it's a mystery.
>>584091031Not your boogeyman, Admiral Retardos. XVI bad. XIV bad. Defund CS3.
>THIS changes EVERYTHING>(about SebbyWebz)Did you guys get the memo?What do we think about this?
>>584091031Oh, so Rebirth's sales are finally relevant now? I got used to him claiming they were irrelevant and not important and that only losers cared about sales, and now it changed its mind? What a sad, scurrying cockroach.
>>584091161Awful post. That being said, still better that XVI.
>Lightning avatarfag>Factoids enjoyer Yoshi-cultist>French chatbotThe Holy Trinity of ffg shitposting.
Yup, the Final Fantasy House is seething.
Heh Action Slop XVI is bad.
>>584091185Oh yeah. Well, Rebirth has been $10 for the past month, and it showed up as like the 8th most sold game on Steam the past month, so now Rebirth's sales matter a lot and they are very good actually. Unfortunately, reviews are mixed, because people are actually playing Rebirth. What I've always found most impressive about Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is that every single negative Steam review has HUNDREDS, literally *HUNDREDS* of updoot reactions of people who agree with it. These aren't even cherry picked reviews. These are literally just the top reviews of the past month. And it's always like this. The most recent negative reviews, no matter when you look, always have literally *HUNDREDS* of updoots on them of people agreeing with the negative review. It's truly unique. I've never seen anything else like it in my entire life.
>>584091185Shh, you'll piss off the cult again->XVI BAD REEEEToo late, they're already angry.
>>584091567The important reviews are positive
>>584091567>because people are actually playing RebirthAnd not playing XVI yes.
>>584091820>everything that doesn't support me is not important>>584091879>nitpicking exclusively 6 wordsTypical cult behaviour.
>wah wah reviews are bad>look inside>over the past year, the player count in Rebirth rarely dropped below 2,000It seems like Rebirth is a pretty captivating game.
>>584092069>there's a cult that exclusively plays RebirthYes, we know?
guys when is resonance nsp getting leaked
Rebirth > XVISimply fact.
Reviews are very important! Don't look at the number of people actually playing our game. Reviews are what matter most. Please ignore the fact that, according to Steam charts, the player count for Rebirth has been two to three times higher than that of XVI for years!
>>584092069The people who like Rebirth do tend to stay within the world of Rebirth for an overly long amount of time due to the engagement metrics that Hamaguchi has designed the game around, yes. The people who really really like Rebirth might even play through it multiple times with mods. I will once again reiterate that I have NEVER seen a game where for over a year, the most recent reviews page always has a negative review (often multiple negative reviews) at the top and each one of them has literally *HUNDREDS* of updoots agreeing with it. That's the most impressive part of Rebirth to me - that it seems to me almost equally liked and disliked.
>>584092264>what supports my headcanon is important!>reality isn't
>>584092179Irrefutable and backed by actual players' playing the game.Meanwhile nobody's playing XVI because...Well, you can't interact with a movie.
A decade from now, FFVII Rebirth will be remember and XVI completely forgotten like FFXV
>b-b-but people are playing Rebirth!Yes. Yes they are.
>>584092432What a failure VIIR is.
>>584092278>People play Rebirth because the evil Hamaguchi designed it as an addictive checklist! It’s all a Hamaguchi psyop; in reality, these people are cultists who play the game over and over again o-okay!When their world comes crashing down, they start cooking up the most unhinged theories and revealing their true colors, shitposters who cry themselves to sleep because their beloved Yoshi got insulted online.
>>584092492It's a failure as a Final Fantasy game. It is a success as an Ubisoft game. Revelation is going to be interesting. The Ubisoft elements will be cranked to 11. The Chadley elements will be doubled. The Final Fantasy VII elements will take a step back... and you'll be able to skip over 100 hours of "content" if you don't want to do it, theoretically making everyone who complained about Rebirth's minigames happy as well.
>>584092762>It is a success as an Ubisoft gameUbisoft, you mean the failing studio that's on its last leg?
>>584092762>and you'll be able to skip over 100 hours of "content" if you don't want to do itwhat do you mean?
>>584092750You're probably never going to be correctly angry at me. It's been years and I don't think you've ever nailed it. >>584092862The very same. It's funny. Ex-Ubisoft devs made a traditional JRPG, and now the traditional JRPG makers decided to turn possibly the most iconic JRPG IP in existence into an Ubisoft game.
I see the shitposters are starting to warm up. Sure, Rebirth has elements of the Ubisoft formula, but they aren't nearly as pronounced as they are in current Ubisoft titles. Rebirth recaptures that "box of toys" feel that defined the original. Revelation will bring back the airship. The entire trilogy represents a massive return to the roots of the PS1 golden age—a return to the very things that made us love these games in the first place.Strategically, Rebirth is a definite net positive for the series. XVI, on the other hand, is a total failure for the franchise.
>>584092762>Chadley elements will be doubledGood. I love my VR missions
>>584092932This image is how I'm envisioning Revelation's game layout will go. It's mostly speculation based on the fact that we know there will be a point in the story where the game will ask if you want to "raise your level to the recommended level". I don't know how or why they would ever think that was necessary, unless they have already designed the middle of the game to revolve around choreslop, which they then discovered in playtesting that players did not actually want to engage with.
>>584092379>XVI completely forgotten like FFXVIn fact, the XV is well remembered.>Japanese fans reveal the JRPGs that have caused the most emotional distress, from Final Fantasy 15 to Persona 3.>Top 10 most tear-jerking JRPGs>Final Fantasy 10 (2001)>Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7 (2007)>Persona 3 (2006)>Ōkami (2006)>Mother 3 (2006)>Tales Of The Abyss (2005)>Dragon Quest 11 (2017)>Final Fantasy 9 (2000)>Suikoden 2 (1998)>Final Fantasy 15 (2016)
>>584093573Must have been tallied when the game just came out. There is no way. No one gives 2 fucks about FFXV
>>584093309What I like about Rebirth is that the game actually makes you think during combat. I’d say it’s one of the hardest games in the series to complete, both the main story and side content, which is surprising, considering how hard SE is currently trying to cater to the kind of morons who can only mash square button.
>>584093836August 2025. This is after XVI and Rebirth came out.XV will be remembered fondly.
>>584093573XV does in fact cause me emotional distress.I still do not understand how Tabata's abortion was actully green lit for release and the fact the people involved in that decision still work at SE causes me mental anguish.
>>584092972>Ex-Ubisoft devs made a traditional JRPG?
>>584094285
>>584094356e33 was made with Indian sweatshop labor off Chinese venture capital anon
>>584094074>XVI and Rebirth status: forgotten>XV status: remembered>>584094208>I still do not understand how abortion was actully green lit Stop talking about XVI, little man. We are talking about real video games, real art that will be remembered.
>>584094356B-But I thought Clair Obscur wasn't a traditional JRPG since it uses QTE! W-Was I lied to by the Final Fantasy House??
I will NEVER play 16
>>584094480I was talking about XV anon. Please learn how to read and take Tabata's dick out of your mouth.
>>584094208It was restarted like 5 times. By the time, the final product came there was too much money spent not to release it. It wasn't even finished when it came out and basically rushes to the end after you get into the city. You don't even explore the world of ruin.
>>584094512>I thought that the movie was over, but the movie started again...Japanese Scholar Anon, ~2024.
FFXV feels like the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Competing themes made by multiple people that have no narrative cohesion.
>>584094427Blah blah blah. Yes, E33 is the most astroturfed and "industry plant" game of all time. Yes, the "small indie studio of 33 people" was actually a much larger operation. Still, it was spearheaded by an ex-Ubisoft dev... who likely received his Ubisoft position through nepotism in the first place. >>584094494I believe the angle of that narrative is that it was made by the French and is therefore not a "J"RPG even though it's a JRPG. I didn't say anything about it being turn-based. While it is technically turn-based, the gameplay is like 80% "real time" parrying.
>>584094657E33 is still a lot better than VIIR. It says a lot about VIIR's quality.
>>584094549Don't be so defensive, sis. XV won, XVI lost. Reality is very simple.
>>584094746>XV won, XVI lost. Reality is very simple.It's not even close. And people thought XV was really, really bad at first. Just goes to show you what rockbottom really looks like
>>584094746Yet both are still better than FFXIII.
I'm gonna go with "WoW Forever ran out of content"
>>584091134>XVI bad. XIV bad. Defund CS3.
>>584094879By the way, XIII is also remembered much better in 2026. My vibe check, I have no data to prove it just have a feeling lurking the internet.
>>584094914You struck a nerve, the cockroach immediately samefagged.
>>584094914XV is better, yes.XVI is dogshit tho. XIII clearly mogs.
>>584094968Personally not a fan of MMOs. Here's my recents, if you're curious.Only multiplayer is Marvel Rivals on occasion because I unironically love me some capeshit.
>All the good FFs are single digit numbersMerging with Enix was the worst thing to happen to Square Soft.
>>584094968You didn't say that to anyone in particular but the fatherless still took that very personally, how interesting...
>>584093573>XV is well rememberedIndeed. This fantasy....is based on reality.
>>584095179Two questions: >What was more important to you over the past 2 weeks than shitting up /ffg/ as you have done nonstop for years? >How did you know, or what made you think that I was talking about you?
>>584095256Clearly he is aware that he is the problem with /ffg/(and consequently the only thing keeping it alive)
>>584094968That, or the cockroach got banned. It'd explain why it's so angry and desperate.
Rebirth is just comfy. 16 and XV are dogshit
>>584087537>Surprisingly, whenever he shows up, VIIR’s shitposting tends to appear right alongProphetic.
>>584095439>the only thing keeping it aliveLOL.as if, that cockroach didn't make the new thread or anything, it's just an orphaned parasite latching on to good threads
>>584095330You do be imagining that every person who dislikes XVI is some spurned WoW player and I just like proving you wrong as much as possibleI don't play MMOs. My opinions about FFXVI/XIV/CS3 have nothing to do with World of Warcraft
>>584095585And you're a retard for continuing the make the threads, but I understand that if you do not keep making them, he will, and that would be worse. I'm talking about this being the thread with the most posts of any of the threads in the past 2 weeks, because after 2 weeks he finally ran out of content in WoW Forever. ("Forever" only lasted 2 weeks kek)
>>584095714Damn you're obsessed...
>>584095525Nowadays, prophets are lynched.
>>584095714That might be the most disgusting Tifa I've ever seen. You're not gonna answer either questions, are you? They're just gonna get added to the infinite list of questions you are incapable of answering.
>>584095734>you're a retardtakes one to know one
>THE BOOGIEMAN IS A WOW PLAYER>"I don't play WoW, here's my recent games">DUUUUUDEEEE HE'S OBSESSED
>>584095871Who are you quoting?
>>584095838>"no u "responseim noticing...
>the shitposter plays wow>"um ashktually i don't">who said we talked about you?>"WOW OKAY SO EVERYONE THAT HATES XVI IS A WOW PLAYER???????????"Final Fantasy House? Not even once.
>How can it be a good thing that FFXVI doesn't have momentum, nor any kind of positive or worthwhile discussions hanging around it?>Is FFXVI good for the FF series JUST because (You) claim that it did well financially?>How can the FFXVI situation possibly be considered anything but a stinking failure?>Will you ever admit that reality indeed reflects poorly on FFXVI's quality and value as a game in the FF series?
>>584095837He’s not your boogeyman, Colonel Retardillios.Most of the time, he isn’t even here, and you’re talking to someone else, me or another anons. God, you really are slow on the uptake and projecting too much, aren't you...That being said, XVI trash, XIV trash, Yoshi-flopper bad, The Last Remnant good, Takai good, Maehiro should be fired, defund CS3, Final Fantasy Tactics The Ivalice Chronicles woman director should be fired.
>>584096075Who are you quoting?
He's going through his entire playbook. This is like a greatest hits album.
Dismissing any neutral or negative remarks about Yoshida products has never been more simple, thanks to WoW Forever™Just apply WoW Forever™ on any problematic opinions and just like that, the criticism is gone
Well having finished 16 I'm playing tactics. I don't have anything bad to say about it other than I wish we had the PSP Cutscenes. If most of the extra content wasn't forced multiplayer I'd go back that but it still holds up.
You can tell the WoW remark really pissed off the cockroach, he's furious.
>>584096185>Most of the time, he isn’t even here, and you’re talking to someone elseShhhhhhhh. You're exposing the business. It's a lot more fun when they think I'm always here, stalking, preying. Keeps them on their toes
>the avatarfag schizo who pretends to be multiple different thread personalities returned on a Saturday night after 2 weeks of leaving us the fuck alone, just so that he could shitpost and reply to himself for 16 hours straight
>>584096420Why do you answer yourself?
>"I don't play that game, you can't use its existence to defend Yoshida games">Cultists:
>>584096420You’ve struck a nerve, French streets are ablaze, and the French baguette is fuming.
>>584096394He does seem to be getting really upset about it for some reason.
>>584096420I still don't really understand what happened at the end of XIII. Things were confusing.
>>584091879>10 times as many people playing VIIR in the last 24 hours compared to XVI
>>584096606Only truth hurts.
>>584096758>unironically resorting to Barry math>not even the Barry math is correct
>>584096285It really is that simple. Arigato gozaimashita, Billy Mays-sama.
>>584096758Um, actually, Rebirth only has three times as many players, okay? You got owned, you bad person! We got you, we won, Yoshi's honor protected!
>>584097002It's actually over 9000 times as many players.
>>584097002Cringe.
>>584096593>French streets are ablazeKekkkkk. You can tell the cockroach remark really cuts deeply, it's been spamming that in retaliation every day for months.
>>584097691Not as cringe as Yoshik's remarks about trans kids.
>>584097691You struck a nerve, he deflected right away.
>>584096757>I still don't really understand what happened at the end of XIIIOrphan turned the party to Cieth and Fang into Ragnarok, Vanille needed to transform too so he started torturing Fang in her human form to break Vanille but she didn't give in. The party was able to return to their humanity though as the spell is broken by their shared bond and desire to see the future they all envision. When they kill Orphan, Cocoon falls, technically fulfilling their Focus. But Fang and Vanille commit a final act of sacrifice, using their divine power to summon a crystal pillar and save everyone on Cocoon. The party is freed from crystal stasis at the end because they successfully defeated their unjust fate, and the Goddess of Death (who opened the gate that sucked up all the monsters) was so moved by this miracle that she broke the curse and they all lived happily ever after.What part didn't you understand? Was it when they came back from crystal stasis, or when they came back from Cieth? Or did it all just move too fast for you
>>584098117So it's shit, got it.
>>584096185>XVI trash, XIV trash, Yoshi-flopper bad, The Last Remnant good, Takai good, Maehiro should be fired, defund CS3
>>584098349I'm surprised that cockroach wasn't shot after saying all this vile crap in a speaker and then BREAKING IN THE HOUSE
>>584095803I'm suddenly reminded of one of the first quests in Lightning Returns, where the robed cultists are murdering innocent young girls who happen to have pink hair all because of their hatred for "The Evil Savior"
Final thoughts on resonance?
>>584095330More unanswerable questions for the /ffg/
>>584098554He's Harry Dresden motherfucker
>>584098697The fatherless scurries away from questions that makes it uncomfortable. What a loser.
>>584098697Meant for >>584096075
FFXV needs a new game.
>>584098117That's not me >>584098278, anon.It seemed to me that the Goddess of Death saved them from becoming Cie'th too, since they all ended up with a white tattoo afterward.Previously, only Fang had a white tattoo, one she acquired after transforming into Ragnarok on her own, a thousand years before the game began. One of the datalogs mentioned that when Ragnarok appeared, the Goddess returned Fang to human form. Here is the quote: "and so She robbed Ragnarok of power, putting the l'Cie to an early crystal sleep". But only Fang had this tatoo from the beginning because Vanille didn't turn for some reason I don't remember.It all seems logical, though with FFXIII I constantly worry that I’m missing something. The storytelling of CS1 gradually turns you into a schizo no shit.
>>584098880No, I did not intend my post for that post. Obviously. Also, that greentext post isn't even addressed to anyone, whereas the post I did actually link to did address someone.
>>584098968>The storytelling of XIII gradually turns you into a schizoIrrefutable
>>584098638>Lightning Returns predicted /ffg/.The most profound and socially relevant story yet....
Honestly, this Steam review is a perfect representation of /ffg/. The only thing missing is that no one here is calling anyone else a Yoshicultist. If you added 1 or 2 posts saying:>"you only hated the Rebirth's Ubislop bloat because you're a Yoshicultist"it would perfectly encapsulate /ffg/.
>>584098968>It seemed to me that the Goddess of Death saved them from becoming Cie'th tooNo they definitely became Cieth, they felt the darkness and loneliness. Lightning even says "could be Falcie smoke and mirrors". Fang never became Cieth, I was under the impression the white tattoo is related to her memory being erased from the transformation. That was why Vanilles tattoo was still the same.>they all ended up with a white tattoo afterward.Really? I've never noticed that the party has white tattoos in that scene, I don't know if that's true or not. Do you have an image?>>584099142>everyone who posts Lightning is all the same oneguy, the evil savior with pink hair>to protect our cult, we must attack and destroy the boogieman, anyone suspected of posting LightningPretty fucking insane, huh? Lightning literally dismantles a bloodthirsty cult that goes after innocent people they think are the boogieman during the opening hours of her solo game.
>>584099434>The only thing missing is that no one here is calling anyone else a Yoshicultist.Or "Jimbo", now that I think about it. He's currently melting down about Yoshicultists so I forgot about Jimbo, since he's not melting about Jimbo right now. So you add 1 post accusing OP of being a Yoshicultist, you add another post on a different account that has a shared library with the first account, and you accuse the OP of being Jimbo, and then it's just /ffg/.
>there are more people shitposting about Rebirth in Steam review comment sections than are playing FFXVI
>>584099449They show it to you from a different angles for 1-2 seconds, but it’s very easy to overlook. I didn’t even notice it myself. Things get really convoluted at the end, and there’s a huge amount of visual storytelling. The whole XIII's ending reminded me of VIII on steroids.
>>584099846Anon, careful. You're making the mistake of thinking that all opinions you disagree with are shitposts. When you're the biggest shitposter here, it's dangerous for your narrative as a righteous anti-shitposter if you start saying that "opinions I disagree with even on other websites" are shitposts.
>>584099850Ah very nice there it is. So then you're right, Etro intervened. The white brand means they are locked and that they "can't" become Cieth. Though they still become crystal afterwards and when they are finally free the brands are completely gone.Good talk!
>>584099739>you add 1 post accusing OP of being a Yoshicultist, you add another post on a different account that has a shared library with the first account, and you accuse the OP of being JimboHave you faggots considered that maybe I just made the OP because I wanted to talk about Final Fantasy without necessarily wanting the mentally ill trannies to make it about their mediocre remake?
>>584099992I'm reminded of the anon who thinks opinions he disagrees with (for half a decade now, apparently) were all posted by some WoW player with a console war bone to pick
>>584099142The reason they haven't announced Vanille Returns: FF XIII-4 yet is that they're giving you time to process the depths of Claire Returns, yeah XD
You just know the fatherless loser doesn't like the current discussion: it's answering its own posts to try to drown it out.
>>584084193There were indeed four questions in that post anon, good jobSee >>584096075 if you need further help picking them out
>>584100331I wasn't talking about (You), I was talking about the OP of the Steam review. >>584100342>immediately deflecting to his current thread enemy (among many)Opinions on different websites that you agree with are not shitposts. It's dangerous for you especially to begin using this logic when the only thing you do is shitpost.
>>584100550>I wasn't talking about (You), I was talking about the OP of the Steam review.Please accept my apologies, then.
I like that he's completely retreated from the WoW thing and has just defaulted back to regular programming of shitposting about Rebirth
>>584100653>Go play/replay 15 instead...Holy fuck!
>>584100479Looks like he's still extremely butthurt about the WoW thing.
>>584100725Yeah, that cockroach's very angry. You just know that this hit and very personal for it to get so angry about it.Then again, we are talking about a cultist who kisses the shitstain that FFXIII was, and then tries to tell off everyone else by accusing them of being cultist. Prime projection.
>>584100653Here's a protip, anon:When people address questions to (You), you do not answer them. Then what you do in retaliation is you get triggered and start fake replying with posts addressed to no one while you reply to yourself, patting yourself on the back, creating schizophrenic head canons in collaboration with yourself that have been wholly removed from what the reality actually is. You don't engage with anyone. You get triggered, then you start replying to yourself, making posts addressed to no one. Then you try to say "hah! no one is answering my questions!" when you didn't actually ask anyone anything. And that's putting aside the fact that (You) never attempting to answer questions that were very directly addressed to you.
>>584100934Funny, that's almost what the fatherless does. Except it answers questions with questions, and then acts offended when told to answer first, then it claims people are transphobe and hate Lightning and ask why everyone is jealous of that mediocre corridor simulator.
>>584101029>Funny, that's almost what the fatherless does....yes.
>>584100852>we are talking about a cultistYeah and what you should do is talking about Final Fantasy, you braindead troglodyte. >>584100653To be fair, mods solve a lot of issues, like removing the limit on the number of Eikons that can be used in a single battle. Not everything can be fixed, but a great deal can.
>>584100852You struck a nerve, the cockroach got pissed off.
>>584100721FFXV might easily be the recommendation in the series for a first timer or young gamer next to VIIR, especially if they're not into retro games/turn based. Well paced open world exploration that you can get immersed in that doesn't have a ton of micromanaging, fishing, lots of comfy activities where you just get lost with the bros.
>>584101165Damn, VIIR looks like shit based on this review alone.
>>584101259The review is for XVI.
>>583728456The Naruto gacha is coming out in English. FFXVI has its only remaining chance coming soon.
>>584100653>>584101165I can't help but notice that these do not have literally *HUNDREDS* of updoots of people agreeing with them.
>>584101165You struck a nerve. Algerian finds it very hard to accept this truth, so he has retreated into complete denial.Just wait for another long, off-topic post from another "unbiased" cultist, and the picture will be complete.
>>584101405>anon proudly announces that he lives his entire life purely in reference to his bogeymen, both real and imaginary
XIII > XVIXV > XVIVII Remake > XVIVII Rebirth > XVIMMO devs = MMO quality = do not buy5 foundational axioms of Final Fantasy
>VIIR has so much discussion that even a negative Steam review is a circle jerk>XVI has so little discussion that absolutely nobody cares about its reviewsThere's a reason VIIR is the hot-topic for sharing negative tweets or videos about in /ffg/ and not FFXVI. It's because nobody wants to talk about FFXVI.
>>584101728>MMO devs = MMO quality = do not buyGulp...but muh Ubisoft towers....VIIR is just Ubislop...did I mention Ubisoft yet
>>584101920You'd think that literally *HUNDREDS* of people agreeing with negative Steam reviews, without even needing to cherry pick them in order for it to be that way would be [Sad News]Turns out, it was actually [Good News] all along. Literally *HUNDREDS* of updoots on every negative Steam review is a good thing. And believe me, there are many negative Steam reviews; it usually has a mixed score for the past 30 days, after all.
>>584101920The cultists want you to think that the majority of people hate Rebirth or/and the trilogy. But if that were the case, 4,500 people wouldn't still be playing Rebirth three years later. People really disliked Veilguard, and look at the state of that game after two years: ~400 players; it’s practically dead despite sales and stuff. Streamers milked the hate surrounding it for the first month, and then everyone forgot about it. Meanwhile, the numbers for Rebirth and Remake remain strong.
>he's still creating elaborate schizophrenic head canons while replying to himself instead of actually engaging with the posts that are making him upset
>>584028108That post really shook the foundations huh...
>>584101279:^)
>>584101315Have you noticed? That review has no name.Meaning the guy wrote his own review, published it, screenshotted it, and is trying to pass it as a completely natural review.>>584101510It's so weird how it resorts to racism when its usual bullshit doesn't work. "But you're brown" is that its ultimate panic button if he get rekt with arguments but is seething too much to ignore.
>>584101405This reality avoidant baby >>584101259 didn't like your post, king. It seems your description truly reflects the individual's actual psychological state.
>>584102860You angered it, it's answering itself again, in its usual cockroachy fashion.
>>584102958>Have you noticed? That review has no name.>Meaning the guy wrote his own review, published it, screenshotted it, and is trying to pass it as a completely natural review....no, anon. I'm pretty sure I took that screenshot, and I have not reviewed Rebirth on Steam. The name is just above or on the left hand side and I didn't bother including it. Good to know though, that if I ever screenshot a Steam review that from now on I NEED to include the name of the person, or else someone will think it's my own review.
>>584103219>moving the goalpostsI accept your surrender.
>>584101405I really just would like him to buy a new PC and/or PS5 so that he can finally purchase and play FFXVI already. It's 10/10 and his favorite game, after all.>>584102117And thousands of positive reviews all have very little engagement. All the negative reviews have the most engagement. It's almost like...there's literally HUNDREDS of people just like (You) who are essentially addicted to a drug. You literally couldn't stop shitposting about FFVIIR here for 24 hours even if you had a gun to your head lol. FFVIIR has an entire economy of negative content creators and engagement farmers who buy capital G gamer attention to circle jerk. Yknow, those "hate cultists" you think attack Yoshida?>>584102262I think the original PS5 metacritic score being equal to the original game speaks for itself. It won like 50 GOTY awards. Many former Sony exclusives have worse scores on PC than console, it's a totally different player base that want different things. It's a shame that Steam reviews have a lot of negativity. I won't dismiss many of their criticisms either because I share some of them, the game isn't perfect. But PC players can be some of the most whiny and belligerent, snobby people in all of gaming. If it doesn't have their specific niche then it's shit. If it doesn't run well enough on AMD it's shit. If it's "Ubisoft" it's shit. PC elitists specifically often have a lot of disdain for console games/gamers and console game designs like yellow paint. Either way, VIIR is an easy target. It's anime cringe and it's UE slop and it's Ubisoft slop and it's remake slop and nostalgia slop and etc etc etc. There's a never ending cavalcade of low hanging fruit that can be hyper fixated on and shitposted about literally endlessly for years and years and years.
This is the worst thread we had in months jesus christ
>"i'm not a cultist for worshipping VIIR!">"but you definitely are a cultist for not shitting on XVI with me, myself and I !"ok schizo
>>584103219The Algerian diaspora in Paris is currently very, very angry about your post. I expect further riots involving arson.
>>584103363>I expect further riots involving arson.KEKAROOOOO
>>583803650Still accurate.
>>584103361This post struck a nerve, the fatherless had to samefag a lot to calm down.>>584103349This is what happens when WoW Forever runs out of content and a certain shitposter get laughed out of /v/.
You are WELCOME, btw. This place is a literal fucking ghost town when I'm gone.
Damn, the fatherless really is clueless, huh? Why haven't mods rangebanned India already?
>>584103349It is still better experience than XVI.
>>584103620Which by itself is a better experience than VIIR and FFXIII combined.
>>584103276You are so fucking stupid, man. Jesus Christ. If you actually read posts before melting down about them, you'd learn that I'm posting Rebirth reviews. >>584103307>It's almost like...there's literally HUNDREDS of people just like (You) who are essentially addicted to a drug. >You literally couldn't stop shitposting about FFVIIR here for 24 hours even if you had a gun to your head lolBro, we just had a very peaceful 2 weeks of you not being here. None of this began because of anything that I posted. This is pure projection from you. I bet you don't even know what I think about anything. >>584103349The avatarfag came back after a 2 week hiatus that he wont tell us about, but that he insists (even when not asked) that he was NOT playing WoW Forever and that it did NOT run out of content. He was pent up and came out shitting.
>>584103698How would you know? Your PC can't run it
>>584103714>Bro, we just had a very peaceful 2 weeks of you not being here. None of this began because of anything that I posted. This is pure projection from you. I bet you don't even know what I think about anything.Take a look at >>584103536. That retard genuinely mistakes "peaceful" with dead because it has untreated ADHD and constantly needs keys jiggling in front of his eyes....makes sense that FFXIII is its favourite game, this game is all appearances and nothing of substance. Literally just flavour and nothing inside, so that's why it appeals to shallow folks.
>>584028108So that's why this is happening. Are you satisfied?
>>584103698Nope. Please familiarize yourself with these fundamental, objective truths of Final Fantasy, peasant >>584101728. >>584103748Lmao! You evaporated that freak.
Tifa would be hotter wearing spats instead of a skirt.
>>584103813Yeah, we already knew that he is an extremely loud, miserable piece of shit on purpose for attention. That's actually how you can tell that his different personalities are just him.
>>584103698n!
>>584103813>>584103903That's also how we determined it's an orphan that its father abandoned: only someone who grew up without a father would be so desperate to get attention.Missing father, absent mother, that loser never got any parental figures growing up, hence its profound mental retardation.
>>584103714>we just had a very peaceful 2 weeks of you not being hereHe definitely showed up here from time to time. Stop acting like a retarded Karen. This isn't some cozy, safe little corner on Bluesky. It’s pathetic watching a grown man like you whine like some beta cuck about "two peaceful weeks" or spout other nonsense like, "Th-this thread was safe until some nasty chud showed up and ruined everything". XVI is shit. It's time to accept the truth and move on like a man. And it's time to stop shitposting VIIR tho. But that won't happen, so raise your shield and break through like a man, not like a twitter troon.
>>584104235Please stop melting down and projecting your own shitposting onto me.
>>584103903You should know for a fact by now that these "different personalities" truly are completely imaginary. Yknow, since I wasn't even here for 2 weeks or whatever. But yet.....here (You) are crashing out on Vanille-kun just 4 days ago.
>>584103714Damn, you really got the fatherless all agitated and huffed up, look at that ABSOLUTE MELTDOWN of it.How embarrassing! Do you think it's crying in front of its computer? It felt like it is, lol.
>>584104336>not everyone you dislike is the same person>oh but everyone I dislike is exactly the same guy whose portrait floats in my head 24/7The projection is real...
>>584104336You sound upset. >>584104340He is indeed extremely upset. He's been upset for a while now though.
>>584104415He's been upset since he ran out of WoW Forever content and got laughed out of /khg/.
>>584104415Lol
>>584104415Oooh, yeah, it is definitely upset now, it's reposting random archive posts that it believes belong to its boogeyman now.
>>584104235>He definitely showed up here from time to time.I'm glad you noticed, anon-kun.
>>584104471He's definitely extremely upset about something, I'm just not sure what it is. >>584104495Little man, just use your words. Say what you mean to say. Ask questions that you mean to ask. Not all of us are pussy ass bitches like (You) are.
>>584104308Shut up, woman. Back to the kitchen or learn to talk about Final Fantasy instead of whining about safe spaces and other people, if you want to stay here.
Aaaand it started its usual samefagging routine, patting itself on the back like it always does when it's pissed.>>584104670>I'm just not sure what it is.My money's on "got bullied at school all week and Mom told him to shut the fuck up when it tried to tell her".
>>584104687I was talking about Final Fantasy and then you started melting down. You're still melting down.
>>584104772Fun fact: abused children tend to replicate the abuse they suffered because they assume it's normal behaviour.When faced with disagreements and arguments, the fatherless shouts and begins to insult people with racist and sexist insults. Therefore, its parents...
>>584104336>>584104495I don't understand how anyone could possibly mistake Vanillefag for anyone else. His writing style is so strange and autistic it’s unmistakable when it's him.
>>584104941>When faced with disagreements and argumentsWhat's most confusing is that he seems to get even angrier when people agree with him.
>>584105063Because like everyone in the Final Fantasy House, it seems to believe that every agreement is ironic, that people don't mean it when they agree with it.I wonder what kind of sad abusive childhood it had to have a vision of the world so warped and twisted.
>>584105005>"it was so peaceful when Lightning avatarfag was gone!!!">threads dying on a daily basis>shitposters are still crashing out at shadows on the wall>can't tell the difference between anybody anymore>still demands everyone else buy into the boy who cried wolf routineVanille-kun is the very best of us here, bar none. He'll discuss any FF game you want, and be ultimately pleasant about it. Anyone who attacks/insults him is literally the definition of a shitposter.
I loved Remake, but I loved Rebirth even more and I'm looking forward to Revelation.Who's with me?
>>584105132I don't know, but I feel bad for anyone forced to interact with him in real life. At least in my world, he's a schizo isolated to 4chan. Not everyone has the luxury of him being an internet person only.
>>584105283You're right, I feel pity for the nurse that wakes him and dresses him up in the morning, I bet he shits his diaper just to annoy her. It's so furious that now it gave up any pretention at playing his multiple personas, and just answers its own posts with that tranny slut while making up scenarios in his head to get angry at.Definitely the silent kid in class that everyone worried he'd come with a gun one day.
Highly agreeable off-topic shitpost that adds additional negative traits to my perceived internet nemesis instead of posting something related to Final Fantasy.
>>584105387meant for >>584105152
>>584105483Exactly, but don't forgot the post you're answering to next time. This kind of mistake is a bit silly.
>>584105264I think that Rebirth is one of the best Square's game in 15-20 years, but I don't want another round of Ubisoft stuff. Looking forward to Revelation but not expecting revelations (heh) from the gameplay cycle. Hope the story will deliver.
>>584105520I'll try not to. Sorry, I'm new to 4chan. I'm much more used to Reddit and Bluesky.
>>584103714>abloobloo my boyfriend was missing and he won't tell me where he went!!!PFFFFFFFTT HAHAHAHAHA LOL
>>584105572Understandable. Welcome on 4chan, this is the Final Fantasy General, where we discuss all things Final Fantasy (but the games, not the movies). As you can see, we're sadly getting raided by a shitposter group called the Final Fantasy House, but don't let that worry you. Usually they all leave at exactly the same time. One could say that all leave at once.
>>584105152>shitposters are still crashing out at shadows on the wall>can't tell the difference between anybody anymoreAll of this could have been avoided if SE had simply made The Last Remnant 2.
>>584105746I fucking hate the Last Remnant.I see FFXIII with contempt, VIIR with indifference, but the Last Remnant with hatred.
I wish WoW Forever had had more than 2 weeks worth of content.
>>584105878Same. For a time, we had a peaceful thread that we could enjoy.
>>584105567I really don't think the sidecontent is "Ubisoft stuff" whatsoever, but I understand it. I don't think the game is perfect at all. And I'm really not impressed with the visual presentation of the UX and overworld as well as the lighting. It's still dated and ugly and busy, with limited scale and lacking many features that contemporary games all have. PC mods will be almost required. The story is definitely looking like it should be the best one yet based on what we know of the original, but they just can't fumble the ball whatsoever. And I'm not totally convinced that there won't be more narrative fumbles during Revelation. Whether it's the Zack stuff and how they explain these nearly incomprehensible sub plots or what have you, I don't have a ton of confidence that it's all actually going to come together and make sense.I'm still very excited to see what that mess looks like. Yuffies content alone makes the $70 worth it.
>>584106160>I really don't thinkWe know. You made that obvious plenty of times.
>>584106160>I>I'm>me>I'm>IAttention whooooore~
I think Final Fantasy's pretty mid and usually overrated, through it is to be expected since it's the flagship of JRPGs, just like Halloween is the flagship of slasher movies and thus feels cliché and mediocre compared to more modern games (or in Halloween's case, movies).You can't invent anything new if you're the pioneer, after all.
>>584106160>Yuffies content alone makes the $70 worth it.like when I saw new Yuffies outfit I was like wtf did they nuke their ethics department or what
>>584106534>I was like wtf did they nuke their ethics department or whatIt's literally MORE coverage than her default outfit... you VIIRgins are insane
>>584106623The cult is not very smart, please understand.
>I'm not a Yoshi cultist!!>but my boyfriend, he plays WoW teehee>I don't have VIIR derangement syndrome!!>but my boyfriend, he's a VIIRgin teehee>I'm not obsessed with imaginary trannies!!>but my boyfriend, his waifu is actually a tranny teehee>I don't secretly yearn for the Lightning avatarfag!!>but my boyfriend, where was he for the last 2 weeks teehee>I mean really, I need to know why won't he tell me where he went
Damn, he's melting down even harder than Chernobyl's nuclear plant.>>584106623You really got under his skin, lol.
>>584106534>that faux whale tailShe can handle adult stuff just fine.
>>584105387meant for >>584106776
>>584106812Yeah. It does tend to rage when its attempts at drowning the discussion fail.
I am the discussion.
>>584087910Truly prophetic post. Wow.
>>584106812>he's melting downYup yup.
>>584106812>You really got under his skin, lol.I don't even understand why he'd get mad about something so obviously true and plainly observable, then again I guess the thing that always has triggered him the most is the truth.
>>584093270When you're right, you're right. So right in fact that nobody even dared to reply to you. All of this could have been avoided if....well you know the rest.
>>584107285Keep in mind that you're talking about a creature that believes that anyone agreeing with it is actually ironic and secretly disagrees with it.Is it really that hard to imagine that saying stupid crap and getting noticed that it's full of shit wouldn't make it angry, especially since it cannot deflect like it usually does?
>>584107425When you put it that way... you do have a point. >>584107410>So right in fact that nobody even dared to reply to youWhen you do your monologue thing, if the post is longer than 1 line and was obviously made by you, I just ignore it. You only ever shitpost, especially when you stop replying to people and do your monologue thing, so it can't actually be anything worth reading.
>>584107664Exactly. Now watch as he's either going to ignore you and answer itself with "bodied that freak, king", or ignore what you said and order you to answer him.
>>584106623Let me explain this to you, TikTok foid.Yes, there is more coverage here, but the outfit is actually more revealing for the male's mind. For instance, those straps from her shorts create the impression that she’s wearing high-leg V-front panties: the waistband doesn't sit horizontally across the hips but is pulled high at the sides, creating a distinct V-line that dips toward the lower abdomen—a detail that adds +5000 sex points in the imagination of any normal heteronormative, heterosexual man (XY chromosomes).I hope this information helps you dress better IRL and stop supporting Lindsay Clancy.
I don't even post here anymore. I got sick of being agreed with. It's impossible to discuss anything when someone else is agreeing with you.
>>584107285>thing that always has triggered him the most is the truthYup, yup. As he recently proved it with his embarassing meltdown, he really HATES the truth. Look at him seething and making up bullshit excuses while insulting you.What a juvenile outburst...
>>584107664I didn't write that post. Sad! Try again!>>584107734>+10000 to Cinema>+7000 to Yuffie sexAh yes, indeed. What you just posted is what I'd call 'elite ball knowledge'.
>>584107734>Let me explain this to you, TikTok foid.I'm a straight white man who has never even downloaded TikTok. That's actually how I know that Yuffie's outfit is actually more coverage than just her default outfit (which has already been censored by being buttoned and belted). Actually, Final Fantasy VII Remake has been rigorously sanitized. For example, since Tifa has boobs, designing a bikini that muted her more feminine features and that was unappealing from all angles took a lot of work, but eventually they made a bikini de-sexed enough that the ethics department approved it, and VIIRgins slurped that slop up and tried to pass it off as sexy just like you're doing with your even-more-clothed Yuffie right now.
This nigga absolutely HATES Final Fantasy VIIR lol
>>584107934>I'm a straight white man who has never even downloaded TikTok.Careful, the fatherless is triggered even further by the smell of undeniable superiority, that cockroach is going to lose its sanity even further.
>>584107906>I didn't write that post. Sad! Try again!You and I both know that's a lie.
Final Fantasy?
Unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have Rydia as a versatile mage than as a summoner biclassed black mage.
Yay maybe it's finally over!>>584108245By the time you get Rydia back, you have Rosa who is enough healing that you don't also need Rydia to heal. Then you have FuSoYa for a while. I never played the PSP version though where you can change your endgame party around.
>>584107934>more-clothed Yuffie right nowYou see, it’s a pretty complex equation: the amount of skin showing matters, sure, but in many cases, the image or association evoked by design elements (like fishnet or the V-shape of straps in our case-study) matters even more. Therefore, scientifically speaking, the drop in the "sex factor" due to more coverage is compensated for by these details.Sometimes, adding just a little more clothing actually heightens the sex appeal because those design details trigger specific mental associations. It’s like how hookers love fishnet chokers; it’s just one extra accessory, that covers more, yet its impact on the mind of any normal man (not (You)) is like a nuclear explosion. So you can tell you reductive simpleton long shits to own VIIRgins to someone else, not me.
It's not over...>>584108609I'm not gonna read this cope, man. I can already tell this is just another shitpost. Yuffie's """sexy""" outfit that makes VIIRgin cultist use the marketer tactic of lying by coping that "oh it's so sexy the ethics department must be gone" is just completely false and observably so. She's literally wearing MORE clothes.
>>584107997I'm not lying to (You), my sweet dear unbiased-kun. I do know that you can not and will not ever accept anything I ever say at face value, including my real life first name (not Paulie!). Because you really do seem to have a deep hateful obsession with poopdick schizo tier namefag theatre. That's what I knowYou didn't believe me when I first showed up in 2024 and said I have nothing to do with your years-long namefag theatre nonsensical drama. You imagined that I am secretly your years-long boogieman who disappeared and created a new split personality and is lying about it. You created a chart about it. You updated that chart and doubled down on that lie. You STILL believe that schizo ass shit you made up, and you post about it almost every day.You post intimate fantasies about your Lightning avatarfag boyfriend for literally hours of your life alongside your ESL butt buddy in my fan club. You post about me whenever I'm gone. You post about what you think I'm posting about on /v/. You imagine the Ba7ry boogieman is also me and is behind every single FFVIIR thread. You think I live in your walls. You tag-team shitpost and attack basically everyone here with the ESL fatherless spammer, who is a total laughing stock, without a single ounce of shame or self awareness for your very unique position in creating the mess that is /ffg/And you feel this way about a stranger so strongly. All because I have the nerve to post Lightning, agree with posts you don't agree with, and won't kiss Yoshida's ring. Sad!>>584108609I did not write this post.
>>584108601Yeah but the difference is that I don't like Rosa.Rydia has a story, she had a mother, a village, she was saved by the men who killed everyone she knew, and she has to fight her pyrophobia, before getting abducted and living most of her life in the fae march.Rosa has no family (Cid is either her uncle or her godfather, it's not clear), she has little personality beside "I love Cecil and I know magic", and the only moment she get to have any important role in the story is to get a pep talk to Rydia and get abducted and reduced to a bargain token. And her talk with Rydia doesn't even involve spanking her.You talk of wasted potential in recent games? FFIV's Rosa is downright flat.
>>584109116>another max length shitpostBro, no one wants to read your posts in the first place, they're definitely not reading the max length ones.
By the way did you know that the most popular Aerith mod on Nexus is "Nerdy Aerith"? And she's pretty covered in those outfits. What can I say? When a normal man sees this photo, the only thought in his head should ideally be about procreation. When a local woman from Twitter sees this photo, she thinks about how to "own" VIIRgins or smth. Sad state of affairs.>>584108826Concession accepted.
>>584109190>she has little personality beside "I love Cecil For some people, that is an incredibly deep personality.
>>584108826oh, i briefly though she had a purple cat tail that was wagging because she was enjoying her meal>>584109116nigga i ain't reading all that shiti'm sorry this happened to youor glad if it's something bad
Here is another telling example of a design where most of the body is covered by clothing. Yet, there is one specific detail that would make any normal man (this excludes the local passive-aggressive woman) have just one thought in their brain. I don’t even need to explain: if you get it, you get it.
>>584109291I dunno, even Tifa has more personality: she has a story, she has secrets... Even if in the end, she fails that test where female characters have to be alone in a scene and NOT talk about a male character, she still has more story than Rosa.If I play FFVII, I know who Tifa is, what her relation to Cloud is, what size her panties are, and that she can suplex a train, but Rosa? Bitch I played the fuck out of FFIV (okay I'm exagerating I'm just halfway through it), and I still have no idea whomst the fuck Rosa is.To be honest, I kinda expect her to be some kind of alien that brainwashed everyone into believing she was here all along when she in fact only joined the party for the last dungeon, and then I'll get a flashback showing that Rosa actually was never present during event and her presence was just her messing with Cecil's memory.
>he's moving the goalposts and creating entirely new conversations now>while still fake replying to no one, his hallmark calling card>while attempting to larp as who he thinks Vanillefag was>except this version of Vanillefag is getting angryYou're blurring too many of your personalities together, little man.
>>584109535Lol what a loser.
>>584109604I do not like this picture.
>>584109198>call someone else a liar>while lying about them constantly>gaslight when they defend themselves from liesShitposter.>>584109535>he thinks Vanille-kun never got angry>tripling down on "multiple personalities" schizo shit AGAIN>can't tell the difference between his boyfriends postsYou are living in the bizarro timeline my nigga, just another world doomed to fade. Don't look up, it's not real.
>>584109480>Even if in the end, she fails that test where female characters have to be alone in a scene and NOT talk about a male character, she still has more story than Rosa.To be fair to Tifa, as bland as she is and as much as the only thing she ever says is "Cloud", she does probably still have more of a personality than Rosa.
>>584107906>What you just posted is what I'd call 'elite ball knowledge'.I think it’s just common sense for any man (male, XY, not related to VIIR shitspoter).
>>584109740No one is buying it, little man. And if you want people to read your shitposts, don't make them max length. Stop getting upset that people don't read your max length shitposts.
>>584109210>>584109380For some reason you seem to be causing a serious ruckus over there. Nobody is disagreeing with what you're saying, but for some reason you're pissing off the locals. And they think you're Vanille-kun lol whenever you're quite OBVIOUSLY Cait-Sith cinema-chan.
>>584109803Tifa does show some personality in the game, but yeah, you're right. It's very little.Like hiding from Cloud after the Mt Corel incident, putting on her best dress when he asks her out... Otherwise yeah, she says very little about herself. I mean, when I played FFVII as a kid, I wasn't even sure she was part of AVALANCHE, I thought she just sympathized with them and allowed them to have their hideouts at her bar, but wasn't part of the actual group.So sure, the translation was awful, but you know a story is bad if I don't know a character's personality when it's one of the main characters.
>>584109915So you concede your position then. Many such cases>>584109842>baseball YuffieNice. Very nice
>>584110119One of the good things about the 3D version is it helps flesh the characters out. >>584110124>So you concede your position then. Many such casesI bet you couldn't even tell me what my "position" is or what your position is. My position is still that you should not make max length shitposts because everyone already hates you and doesn't want to read your diarrhea.
>>584110261Do the 3D remake also fresh out Rosa? And King Baron?I heard it only freshed out Fusoya and Gomez. Or Golbez, whatever his name is.
>>584110261>everyone already hates you and doesn't want to read your diarrheaThis but about French spammer and "little man" shitter who also loves writing long walls of off-topic text.
>>584110371>Do the 3D remake also fresh out Rosa?I'd have to play them side by side. There's not a TON of extra text, but there's a little bit. The beginning of the game where Rosa goes to Cecil actually feels like it serves a purpose in the 3D version.>>584105387meant for >>584110384
>>584110261Your "position" is that fun over time chart, is it not "little man" shitposter? Mister unbiased, right? Truth teller? You use the same phrases way too much for anyone to not notice you, just like the fatherless spammer. You never post any FF images (unless you're attacking or mocking someone). You're an open XIVfaggot who ritualposts with Sphene over in /xivg/, but you never post the girls you like in here. You're never positive about FF in here. You only ever post about your pathetic drama and other posters while pointing the finger.You and your twin XIVfaggot spammer are the blight of /ffg/. You are always here the moment the thread dies and comes back. You're here to shitpost and spam and attack everyone while defending CS3 products.>>584110384Shhhhhh anon. That's how you get called Paulie. You don't want to be Paulie, now do you
>>584110384>deflectingThis is why nobody likes you, fatherless.>>584110550I remember seeing more cutscene that add to Golbez, namely him abandoning Cecil as a child.Which is why he feels so bad in the present that he can't even look at Cecil once the brainwashing is gone.
>>584110771I think the 3D version is the "definitive" version, but the PR is fine too. >>584110704>he asks a million questions in a single post >he has never answered any questionsCurious. Anyway, I'm a significantly better human being than you are, so here:>[angry, whiny, butthurt crying]Yes, I made the /ffg/ chart, and yes, you are a little man, emphasis on the "little">Mister unbiased, right? Truth teller? Correct. >You use the same phrases way too much for anyone to not notice youI don't and have never attempted to "hide" or to be someone else, which is why it's funny that you have called me Frenchie or Jimbo probably a hundred times each. >You never post any FF images Incorrect. >You're an open XIVfaggot who ritualposts with Sphene over in /xivg/Also incorrect, that's just you being butthurt about your poll that you said you would not contest the results of and that you would accept the results of no matter what. >you never post the girls you like in hereIncorrect. I do not avatarfag. You do avatarfag. >You're never positive about FF in hereIncorrect. >You only ever post about your pathetic drama and other posters while pointing the finger.Incorrect. >You and your twin XIVfaggot spammer are the blight of /ffg/. Incorrect. That would be (You). >You are always here the moment the thread dies and comes back. Incorrect. >You're here to shitpost and spam and attack everyone while defending CS3 products.Incorrect. Anything else you want to cry about?
>>584111116The PR versions aren't the most complete, but they're the best if you rank all the pros and cons. They're easy to obtain and run, they have most bugs fixed, the translations are slightly better than the originals, and they have music rooms and cute animations.Given how many games at once I tend to play, I'd pick PR over the GBA version that I need to emulate then apply a retranslation patch then a fanmade rebalance patch then a patch that restore the cut content then spent one hour to set up all the options...Yeah, no.
>>584110002I’ve tried to have a civilized discussion about Rebirth here a few times, but it always ended up devolving into personal attacks against me and just low-effort trolling regarding VIIR.As for the expectations for Rebirth which we discussed earlier, I don’t think the game will be bad, even if the "Ubisoft-style" elements remain at the same level. It’ll simply be good, or maybe just decent, in terms of exploration and overall gameplay loop. Personally, I think the problem isn't really the towers, outposts, or repetitive activities themselves, which, by the way, don't repeat as often in Rebirth as they do in actual Ubisoft games, but rather the fact that everything is laid out openly for the player to see. The issue is the checklists! If all of that were somewhat more hidden, not explicitly spelled out in checklists, most experienced players would likely enjoy the playthrough a lot more.Hamaguchi himself seems like the kind of person who loves sharing information, to the point where his constant trailers and interviews are starting to annoy some people. He wants to share as much as possible and lay all his cards on the table. I don't know if that aspect of his personality influenced the design of Rebirth in any way, but it's a possibility.
>>584111279>it always ended up devolving into personal attacks against meThat is because the fatherless is literally unable to talk without resorting to namecalling. He's a loser, what can you do? You can't cure stupidity nor a lack of parenting.
>>584111279>The issue is the checklists![Good News], anon!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6fayQBm9w
>>584111431What game is that?
>>584111461Revelation
Thinking about it now...we’ve discussed the design of female characters' outfits and the issue of open-world checklists here, and the essence of both problems seems similar. Sometimes, concealing something serves to engage the will, emotions, and imagination, sparking desire and heightening interest. This applies just as much to the female body as it does to game maps. To a certain extent at least. Eureka!
>>584111590watthis gacha-like thing is in revelation?what the fuck is going on with this remake
>>584111625>and the issue of open-world checklists>Sometimes, concealing something serves to engage The great Yoko Taro once said that players feel true "freedom" in a game, not from sheer volume of content or checklists to complete, but rather by being shown a future which they did not (and could not have) envisioned in the past. An example of this would be the multiple endings of Automata. Or going from the Golden Age Arc of Berserk to the post-Eclipse arc.
>>584111858You tell me
>>584111934No, seriously. This kind of art is what I see in gacha games or in my Korean mobage I play to masturbate. And this is in Final Fantasy VII's remake?
>>584117594If it was a Korean gacha game, she wouldn't look like the ethics department hit her with a bus.
>>584117781I'm still pissed that HiT 2 never made it out of Korea.
>been playing FFXVI >actually has a strong start>get to the midgame and the pacing drops to a fucking crawl >important shit ends up bing info dumped instead of shown>after every major fight we end up with 5 missions of forced fetch quest to paid out the time>Bahamut is a homoIt had a good start at least
>>584117781I want to furiously copulate with that second elf, the lanky one.
>>584105878WoW Forever still has more content than XVI.
>>584122015Honestly, probably not. It only goes to level 30 right now, and like 90% of an MMO is just running the same shit over and over again or leveling to max. The only "content" WoW has are the dungeons. It doesn't even really have a story until the attunement quests.
>>584122015You're trying too hard.
Seeeeeeecret~
Peace, at last.
Fun fact: in FFXIV, the world's entire calendar is reset whenever there's a world-ending calamity, I think that when the game starts, they're at the Seventh one. They call these "umbral era", and the name is tied to the Ascians, the "ones with no shadows", that the FFXIV devs are cosplaying in that photo that shitposter love to post while calling the game a cult.The whole world is essentially just "X days since last apocalypse", and the world is built on ruins above ruins above ruins.
Fun fact: FFXIV keeps losing players, and the quality just keeps going downhill.
Still about FFXIV (I love that game), there's a hidden dig at peer pressure with the tribe of the Nibirun, a race of strange humanoid creatures who wear thick robes and masks to better fit into the mold of the group.They all committed a giant suicide when one of them denounced life as being a pointless exercise. Unable to resist the group's thoughts, the entire race committed suicide, creating a god to reap them and turn them into golden butterflies. Their planet went gray and lifeless when they all departed, where it was decorated with fields of gold that'd make the God-Emperor of Mankind and Scrooge McDuck jealous.They turned Elysium into Nagash's wastelands because they were unable to resist peer pressure.
Third fun fact about FFXIV (my fav FF), the loporrits, who populate moon, weren't created by the ancient (and severely decadent) Allag Empire. Unlike the other beastmen who were originally created for labour before the rise of Emperor Xande destroyed Allag and fred them, the bunny people were here since the very beginning.
Too bad there's no Boomerang in FFXIV. It'd be broken but fun.
>take nearly three years from its reveal to finally release beastmaster>its shitYoshida: Low quality that betrays fan expectations since 2023.
>>584136845>>584137360>>584137825somehow these innocent posts have caused the final fantasy house to completely lose their mindssad how they really hate any game better than the mediocre VIIR
Fine, let's talk about Final Fantasy VII instead.So, in Dirge of Cerberus, it's retconned that Hojo, all along, had an entire super elite army that was so super secret that even Rufus or Heiggeggegger didn't know about them, which is very weird since over the course of FFVII, he resigns from working at Shinra.
>>584140029The trick is to research the lore and think about it hard enough that all criticisms of the story become easy to dismiss. You're not supposed to think about it hard enough to create new criticisms. It's about finding that perfect balance.
Another thing about FFVII: in Advent Children, after spending the entire FFVII game getting over Sephiroth traumatizing him and Aerishit dying, for some reason, Cloud goes back to being sad.This is a reference to Max Payne and the cyclical nature of depression, how you get better before getting worse. In the upcoming Advent Children 2, Cloud will hide under his bed whenever he hears the noise of a long sword being unsheathed.
ANOTHER thing about FFVII: Vincent and Yuffie were actually optional characters in the real game, hence why at the start of Dirge of Cerberus, they're not present at the North Crater.And also on the PC release of VII (the original one), if recruited, Vincent would be bugged during Aerishit's death scene.
>>584137279>>584139234Sad but true
Another thing about FFVII: a bunch of losers founded the Final Fantasy House, a cult disguised as a LARP group, in which different "adults" believed to be the reincarnation of a video game's characters.This was the first instance of a cult within in the Final Fantasy fanbase, before FFVIIR came out and the Final Fantasy House was reformed.
>>584141795...oooh, so that's why they're always accusing FFXIV of having a cult mentality, it's just projection! It all makes sense now, they're literally seeing their own flaws and shortcomings in others.
>>584141795One of the many reasons why I've never been okay with criticism of VIIR. Anything bad you have to say about it and its fans should actually be directed towards the OG and OG fans. VIIR itself, and VIIR fans, haven't done anything to warrant the kinds of attacks we see against them on a near daily basis.
>>584142108Exactly. So keep in mind, whenever you see people talking shit about FFXIV, this is likely what you're trying to reason. No wonder they can't listen to reason.
>>584142517They should know better.
>>584141192Vincent and Yuffie are at North Crater according to AC. The opening of DC takes placed after the part returns to Midgar to stop Hojo but before Northern Crater.
>>584143340Odd that Barrett isn't present, then. Isn't this when he gets his ultimate weapon?
>>584143535Assuming the the ultimate weapons are themselves canonical, he gets it before they fight Hojo. Notably you can miss the item entirely if you don't have him in your party when going up to fight Hojo and can't return after defeating him.DC's opening is after Hojo has been killed, during the evac of Midgar, before North Crater.
>>584143786Assuming that you're a fucking retard then yeah you're right
>>584143786>Notably you can miss the item entirely if you don't have him in your party when going up to fight Hojo and can't return after defeating himThat's still fucking stupid.>>584143869No, he's right. Just before the fight against Hojo, there's a chest that only spawns if Barrett is in your party.
>>584144119>No, he's rightHes wrong. retard
>>584144285Kek
>>584142517>muh criticism !
So this is the quality you cane expect from this thread if you report and ignore shitposters
>>584144419Exactly. They try and they try, but there simply aren't any valid examples.
>>584139234Um your face is shit
>>584144512What are you talking about? Shitposters are still here, still trying to discourage any discussion.
>FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE SERIES x Sonic Racing: CrossWorldswhy
>>584144619Why not? Looks fun
>>584144572What would you be discussing if it were possible to?
>>584144619Soon
>sonic cringe will pollute this general Ew
>>584144665Gee I dunno, haven't I been talking about FFVII's many issues until now?!? Are you blind?
>>584144572i know. you're still here
>>584144697Fuck off
>>584144619INAL FANTASY VII REMAKE SERIES x Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds
NEW THREAD >>584144809>>584144809>>584144809
>>584143869Explain where I am wrong.
>>583803650>>583924051Impressive. It did turn out to be true.
