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Angry Doe Edition

Previous About to Fucking Snap: >>583752950

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
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-Fanart Archives
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>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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sleepy thread
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Can you believe it guys? A single clarification, just a chapter away! A single clarification after over 10 years! Woohoo! I am so happy about this clarification. One clarification just after 6 chapters, oh wow.
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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>>583785298
Hooman!
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What if Fujo asks you to have sex with Battat (because she wants to watch you fuck him in the butt) and you agree because you are a pathetic virgin. However, when you start having sex that pathetic green dice, who is only half your size, is somehow more assertive than you and Battat ends up fucking you in the butt instead?
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>>583785712
battat is the most submissive and subservient character in deltarune
battat is what fans think ralsei is
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>>583785779
... Wait, is that a Party Horse laugh at the end?
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tobt fox
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>583785779
i’m gonna kill myself from loneliness because you made me watch this im gonna kill myself because of you i hope you’re happy im tying up the noose right now
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>>583785779
ralsei - princess 2 sprite why do you show me so many random videos? are you turning me into a sleeper cell agent?
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>>583785913
Yeah, that's the point. What if you are so pathetic that you are somehow more submissive and subservient than fucking Battat
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>>583786004
>>583785340
she will shake it off because thats cuter :)

i drew this in the wrong order so read it right to left fahaha
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>>583786004
i also drew noel but i couldn't think of anything to draw him doing
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>>583786382
this noel looks like the kind of guy to say no homo before putting a cylinder shaped food in his mouth and going to town good job!
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>>583785712
i would likely enjoy seeing this happen but there is absolutely no interest in this happening to me. so i guess i'd be the fujo in this scenario
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Mating press with loli Kris!
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>>583785779
Why the fuck would you show me something if I couldnt have it
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>>583786285
>>583786382
Not sure about the specifics but threesome with these two
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>>583785779
This is how goners radicalize lightners
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>>583786824
I wish I had the picture but you reminded ms of the drawfag who drew noelle + noel selfcest those pictures were so good dare I say peak
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i love buckethead <3
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yummers
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>>583786530
thank you anon please witness

>>583786824
the noel x noelle selfcest i drew was technically a threesome with kris but just in that it was implied they were telling them what to do and stuff. you could probably take it in a quite different direction

>>583787051
wtf i'm right here! also thanks :)
>wish i had the picture
here it is -> https://files.catbox.moe/0rp75p.png
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>>583787052
https://files.catbox.moe/nwfd3y.mp3
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>>583787775
last month felt that way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJ-LVURjdY
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>>583787603
ohhhh that was youuu no wonder my brain "hrm thid is familiar"
thx for the link anon also lol at dat noel
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I love TV
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you will never draw
i do not believe in you
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>>583788539
drawing is overrated anyway
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>>583788539
you're so right.... i tried to draw kris with hyper tits as a joke but deleted it out of shame...
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>>583788539
Tell me it didn't draw
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* i drewed
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>>583787603
>>583786382
>>583786285
these are all great!! very very hot stuff!
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Is Noel or Battat more submissive?
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I already know that pretty much only chapter 7 and maybe 6 will be fun to replay when the game is over
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Good morning utg! Are you doing well?
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>>583788539
Anon no longer believes in you...
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>>583788143
>>583789027
thank you anons :D
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nobody is home
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Why he be looking like a Persona mc
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>>583789173
some anons want noel to dominate them so noel has been witnessed committing or attempting rape a few times, though he is a charmless and pathetic rapist. since he's a genderbend of noelle i imagine he's got maybe the same of what noelle's got going on in canon where she has obvious submissive sexual fantasies but also unconsciously wants to have power over people, or maybe he's got the inverse of that. either way my money is on battat being more submissive i have bias though

also, noelle raped battat in a frantic fanfic recently so we could just say that that transfers and a power hierarchy has been established
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>>583789948
asriel... the roaring was 15 years ago... you have to let it go...
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>>583787603
Noel when he sees (You)
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>>583789576
NO!!!! IT'S NOT TRUE!!!! THAT'S NOT ME!!!!! DON'T FUCKING LISTEN!!!!

>>583788539
I'M GONNA TURN YOU INTO RED PASTE
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>>583790085
utg dorms rape hierarchy...
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so the wet dog noelle on the wb? i thought she was depressed and now I'm sad she isn't
Is that weird
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>>583790295
Tenna, Kris, Noel and Spamton hiding away from sigma /utg/ femanons looking to rape them
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>>583790475
nah it's not weird, the depressed-looking noel i drew was going to be depressed noelle until i remembered i hadn't drawn noel in a while. i like seeing and drawing her depressed and will probably do it again soon. is the homeless one not enough for you though anon...? she's got to be depressed...i mean look at her...she's so homeless....
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You guys know some place that goes over how to implement something like the prophecy panels in Game Maker?
I'm dogshit at using shaders and the Deltarune's code is a schizophrenic nightmare where I have no idea where things start and end.
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>>583790986
be careful anon
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>>583790986
you need to be schizo anon!!
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>>583791020
It's spoilered its ok.
>>583791058
I am and the code still doesn't make any god damn sense.
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>>583790295
I'm below Aqua on the hierarchy!
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>>583787443
enjoy your cake fren :)

>>583789310
hello hello, i am doing well, just woke up from a midday nap on the sofa.

>>583789948
i am here now.
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>>583790986
Calling Tasque Manager just "The Manager" makes me think of like a middle manager or that water cooler from Jobjob.
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>>583791193
If aqua had sex she’d probably be super rough and damage the bed springs
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>>583790671
Why are Tenna, Kris, Noel, and Spamton gay?
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soooooo do you guys want to talk about the current deltarune reddit drama?
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>>583791620
no
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i miss you
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>>583791620
Only if we can remain ironically detached and maintain a smug aura of supremacy over reddit users. Engaging with the drama itself sucks ass.
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>>583791620
I don't give a FUCK about what cunts on Reddit are doing
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>>583791660
>>583791782
>>583791805
ok...
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>>583791620
nobody cares about reddit slop we should post Kress instead
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>>583792239
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>>583792239
Cringe but only because it's MTF shota Kris.
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>>583792239
For all the bitching and complaining I see on the internet I don't see anyone say anything about commies going after people's children
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>>583792635
because hating commies is a prerequisite in life
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>>583792239
i wish i had an older sister that dressed me up as a girl and did my makeup and jerked me off
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>>583792775
Alright mr American Freedom Cheeseburger Man, just rub your constitution and free speech in my face why don't you
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>>583792868
eastern europeans probably hate communism more than americans every did
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>>583792868
Eat your freedom steak. Fsteak if you will.
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>>583791620
i’m curious i like internet drama what’s happening
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>>583793054
other anons don't want to talk about it so it's better to avoid it. anon... that drama... ooohh it was horrible...
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life is pointless without booze and friends to drink it with... said suzie in weird route
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>>583793054
https://www.reddit.com/r/AquaDeltarune/comments/1x08tzm/important_announcement_about_this_sub/
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>>583792868
You can have one too, all you need to do is kill all the evil people in your government, simple

>>583793054
dude you don't wanna know...
oh the drama...
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>>583793437
>two retards fighting
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>>583790068
the majority of deltarune fans think this thing is female for some reason
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>>583793653
It’s just cope
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>>583793653
and can be included in two groups
the ones that think with their dick
the ones that don't think
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I need to get off my ass and actually make something. Today's the day. Anons of utg! Lend me your power!
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>Fruit punch. Flowery made it. Want some?
>They’re eating my flesh!
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>>583793653
>majority
Holy schizo
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>>583794289
the majority of deltarune fans are neuro divergent tweens
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>>583793883
make a salad fatty
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>>583793437
deltarune fans are really easy to bait.
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>>583793883
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hey guys!
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Ralsei realizing that he talks just like Ironmouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA8NmYLK-rA
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>>583794781
the forbidden spell
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broken air conditioner fave slept fucking horribly and maybe this climate change business is actually true
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>>583794992
you're 2 months late
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He would wear this
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>>583793437
>yes, I am anti-lgbt
>I want this subreddit to be free from problems
>lgbt posts are only tolerated during pride month
>I also want you to stop making hateful posts about me
I know aquapedos and the larger deltarune reddit community are sort of retarded but lol, lmao.
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He would wear this
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>>583794992
It was actually a much better summer this year than last year, around here at least. I didn't even need to use a fan to keep the internet from going out!
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Woah, big!
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lmfao
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>>583795159
>I also want you to stop making hateful posts about me
to be fair there's a difference between a retard insulting a group and a group dogpiling on a retard
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Alphys would wear this
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Ralsei would eat this
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>>583793653
why are femkris fans so insecure about it
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>>583795520
even them can see it's bullshit
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>>583795405
He told gays to chill with the homosexuality outside of pride month about the gay furry game.
That’s basically a hate crime. Running around acting like kraut gets a big target on you outside of 4chan.
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>>583795664
Ralsei would choke this
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>>583795383
cute holy shit
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>>583795824
Ralsei would wear this
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>>583795159
if he was smart he would have just said no ships
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>>583795520
We’re like several months in on a Kriselle dude in /vrpg/ going fucking nuclear if you imply Kris has a puss
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>>583795950
Ralsei would message this
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>>583793437
why do they always say you can't like this game if you aren't gung ho about trannies and homos? it's like saying you can't play gta if you are morally opposed to running over hookers with a car and robbing niggas irl. not homophobic btw just transphobic, i have a gay/dyke friend
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>>583795086
Censors don't mean SHIT when he's reaching all time high viewership!
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>>583796071
Ralsei would mourn this
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>>583796206
Ralsei would improve this
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>>583796171
Their entire personality revolves around that so you ignoring it means erasing them out of existence. the "we just want to be left alone" is bullshit. And to add, the lgbt themes (especially t) are the weakest point of deltarune. It's why chapter 5 came out the way it did.
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>>583796034
that's on vrpg. over here though it feels like every other he/him kris post gets quoted with *she or if you're obviously talking about male kris a femkris fag quotes the posts to go and haha and image kris with big milky boobs pregnant and with her i mean THEIR pussy leaking right?? just obnoxious god damn
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>>583796387
Cubery...
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>>583796387
Ralsei would wed this
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>>583796456
>anon realizes what low-effort bait is
good doggy
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noel is harder to draw than noelle
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>>583796387
queen's boobs look so squishy here
sex with queen
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>>583796206
>>583796308
>>583796387
>>583796518
ralsei would eat this
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>>583796617
He's so chuddified he's got the Ramb face
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>>583796676
my goat
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>>583796656
WHY is he so EVIL?
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>>583796617
he's just noelle with slightly shorter hair
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>>583796751
what do you expect from a megalomaniac rapist flower?
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>>583796652
She has all the best software installed
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#StopFloweryHate
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So why don't they just nuke Hometown lol
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>>583796917
Nah bro...
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>>583796434
>we don't want to be left alone and live our lives we want you to accept us 100% and center us in your experience of things that vaguely involve us
makes sense
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>>583796617
everything is hard to draw for me because i can't draw x)
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>>583796956
More money spent on the nuke than an entire town full of mentally challenged morons is worth
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Self-Hating Gays: The General
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>>583793437
The subreddit owner is right btw.
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>>583797039
Is it so wrong to dream?!?
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>>583797159
Welcome home brother
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>>583795520
If anything it's the opposite.
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>>583797159
Welcome home brother
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>>583797206
yes, escapism bad
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Why are the guys from /vrpg/ so neurotic what does that board do to people
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i love gort but i am nothing
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>>583797430
god I hope toby has the guts to give susie what's coming to her in the end
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Queen should make me her sex slave mused fave.
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>>583797450
a different type of autism from here
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>>583797430
But gaming is so good? Gaming has never done harm to anyone…
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>when Susie gets to have dinner in the Light World
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>>583797594
*kris
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>>583796676
is this true?
>>583796797
she's hard to draw too but he's harder
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>>583797450
They want a general but don’t want to compete with our home grown super schizos for attention so they sit in some shitty irrelevant board and talk about us instead. I have seen people say they prefer /v/ just because kraut and doomer don’t post there.
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>>583797682
WRONG!!!
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>>583797745
*milk freak
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I am Sans from Undertale
I'm voiced by Patrick and I'm straight
I get to fuck MILF goat every day
(innocent goomber bad time)
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obama said escapism is bad once. thats why you should never take that stupid phrase seriously
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>>583797959
A fate worse than desu…
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>>583797734
>time to eat!
>oh right, I don't have anything to eat...
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>>583798234
discuss this historical moment
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>>583798336
>uhhhhh.... this is my uhhhh newest invention.. goat bussy.
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>>583798336
he was so handsome. i miss having hot presidents
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>>583797910
Bafflingly poor attempt at stealth here
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>>583798234
he wants to keep all the dark worlds for himself
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Chapter 1 and 2 era Ralsei fandom:
>uwu I'm a femboy
Chapter 3+4 era Ralsei fandom:
>uwu I'm a femboy
>depression :(
Chapter 5 era Ralsei fandom:
>Grrr I hate flowery
>I'm trans
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obamna
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>>583797574
No
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>>583798509
and your fave's fandom? probably nonexistent because they are a fucking BUM, now stfu and post their ugly self
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>>583798509
you forgot the part where people were coping he was a girl, and when they thought he was evil, and thought he was asriel
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to be fair only a few people who genuinely love ralsei view him as trans like roughly 1%. the rest are those who really despise femboys and need him trooned so they can stop gnashing their teeth whenever they see him on screen
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>>583796737
I would have welcomed him into Castle Town with open arms.
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Please stop taking low-effort gender bait.
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Forcing every person who brings up trannies unprompted to lift 50 pound dumbbells and jog for 30 minutes
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>>583798674
evil ralsei can still win. evil ralsei who's like asriel and this whole thing is his master plan to play with his friends and feel important and tragic
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>>583798709
I think the people who genuinely love Ralsei for more than superficial reasons are 0,1% of his "fans"
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people say that catti will be a nothingburger. although a nothingsalad would be better
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ralsei's arc would be more interesting if he became evil instead of trans
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>>583798638
my faves fandom is a kingdom and i am its monarch
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>>583798795
>low-effort gender bait
Does high-effort gender bait exist?
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>>583798957
ralsei will be evil as in he turn into a titan and loses control
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>>583798879
well you would think wrongly. i went on a tumblr dive last night and there was so so sooo much good art and analysis of/for ralsei delving into his existential issues

>>583798957
it would be boring to me if he went
>nyehehe and i was just lying this entire time!! i hate you guys!!
if he is evil there should be some heart in it. alas poor villain etc etc
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Just learned Toby Fox patched aborted weird route at some point so that instead of Noelle's regular "disappointed" sprite making it look like she's strongly emotionally disconnected from the date, they edited her 'being cradled' sprite and just made her look more sad in it.
I really hate him for not having this shit 100% figured out by the fucking release date. This materially changes how the scene might be interpreted. In the release version her dissatisfaction with the state of affairs feels much more pronounced. In the current version it's more like she's happy to be with Susie but just has some vague feeling of melancholy she can't put her finger on. Basically this version feels less like Noelle is actively aware of what just happened, IE maybe she's not 'awakened' anymore and aborted 6 will just play identically (as one probably always should've expected).
Again, how could he not have the decisions for this stuff 100% finalized? I do not fucking get it. It's one sprite in this scene. This is at least the second time something like this has happened with the super important secret route. I talked myself into defending/forgiving him in ch4 but now that I learned about this it feels fucking haphazard and careless. I just can't believe it. I sunk time and emotion into thinking about this stuff and it wasn't even ready or finished.
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>>583798638
I'm a NoelleGOD thoughbeit
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ralsei will become evil and i will save him
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>>583799043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CMw_xMB8bs
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>>583799127
Can you imagine being Toby and reading shit like this every time you patch a talksprite
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>>583799120
>I went into the dumpster and found something edible
susie...
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>>583799120
and most of it was before chapter 5. that felt important to mention
kinda don't like how much chapter 5 art is just that one terrible headcanon and ralsei fuming at flowery
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>>583799127
he forgot the tenna statue
he forgot susie gaining magic after gerson
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>>583799120
Tumblr has some very fascinating deep dives into the characters but I'm suddenly flashbanged by insane headcanons I'm left scratching my head how can people go so far based on wrong premises
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>>583799352
there are ways to get around most of the garbage… if you can find an account dedicated to your fave and the holder is above the age of 25 and it went dead late last year there will often be gems, like stuff from deactivated blogs or soulful pieces with like ~100 notes
it's also easier to get art from there vs twitter. i don't know why muskrat can’t just add some sort of tagging/organization system
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>>583799370
The problem is that Ralsei didn't really do all that much in Ch5, especially considering how it's usually thought of as "his" chapter. Things sort of happen to him throughout, I was waiting for him to show some agency and it was barely there.
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sometimes I run a comb through my hair and imagine its fave's claws giving my head a scratch...
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>>583799647
it hurts so much that his chapter is and will always be the worst
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>>583799534
yeah you get it. i like coming across ideas and connections i never put together myself/scenes i missed (like his interactions with swatch) but i really hate seeing stuff like "tenna is canonically disabled and neurodivergent because the knight cut off his arms"

>>583799647
yeah… 3 and 4 were definitely superior and he wasn’t even the focal point
i feel like a lot of his story is tied to deltarune's deeper mysteries though, so he's probably going to get a lot more development in the final chapters
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>>583799647
>>583799798
The whole game is “ralsei’s chapter”
Kris is barely a real character and Susie is only getting chapter 6 and gerson for focused chapters. Noelle has been a complete waste of space since chapter 2.
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>>583799127
This makes more sense when you consider the patches are canon to Deltarune. Gaster patched the game to keep Noelle a Noelle.
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>>583799647
For "his" chapter it sure doesn't feel like he got focus like Susie got in Chapter 4 or Kris got in 3. Even if we said "it's to keep the mystery", Kris is still the most mysterious character of the game and the sheer amount of interesting stuff for Kris in 3 is overwhelming. Noelle's got everything related to the WR. Ralsei feels like the most fumbled of the main characters.
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what do anons think is even going on with noelle in the ch5 abort anyway
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Fave opened Youtube on desktop
What the fuck is this new UI
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>>583799647
>>583799798
His arc in the Chapter was about drawing out of him the resolve to exercise that sort of agency, to relax the limitations he places upon himself in spite of the fear and self-hatred he feels as a result of his heightened knowledge. It’s not like this is the single self-contained Ralsei Chapter, this is simply the culmination of what he’s been learning through the game so far through the example of Flowery, a character in a similar situation also tied to Asriel.
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>Chapter 5 is Ralsei's chapter
You should genuinely be put to death if you believe this and repeat it. The fucking audacity of someone to play this chapter who's only functional role in the story is to get Suselle together and try to say "yeah uhm this was definitely the Ralsei spotlight of the game because the boss trolls him". The only thing that happens for Ralsei in this chapter is he used fire magic on a 20hp bullet.
The amount of unchecked privilege lesbians have in these online spaces is mindnumbing
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>>583800183
Truly raped post
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>>583800183
this was SUPPOSED to be ralsei's chapter
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kris dark worlds are kris chapters
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Ralsei's not a real main character
Deltatraveler was right all along
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old woman chapter
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>>583799963
noelle on weird route is some of the best
/most satisfying writing dr has. i kinda agree about normal route noelle, though. it feels bad to say but i don’t know what she is there but suselle and angst for kris
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lets all torture toby for making a horrible, horrible chapter
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>>583800087
The idealist in me thinks that aborted WR won’t change much for Noelle because she’ll have an epic meltie across all routes anyway
The cynic in me thinks she’ll remain a narratively-useless gagshit character who probably gets kidnapped again
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>could have saved deltarune at any moment
>toby simply refuses to
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>>583800181
lmao
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>>583800515
isn't that kind of the point of nr noelle in a way? she's basically an npc and is pretty misogynistic to herself
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>>583800645
The story gets good at around chapter 7 trust me
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>>583799127
>maybe she's not 'awakened' anymore and aborted 6 will just play identically
ALWAYS
BET
ON
NOTHING
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No okay seriously. What did Ralsei demonstrate he learned? How has Ralsei's approach to the prophecy, the roaring, and dark worlds change from the beginning of the chapter to the end of the chapter?
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>>583800634
she isn't narratively useless in 2. she does have some soulful scenes, like when she does that puzzle with kris and talks about their past
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>>583800181
So I just have WAIT until Ralsei totally, finally does something cool.... Oh boy I love to wait for everything about this game to have its payoff at the last 5 minutes
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This is the worst /utg/ has ever been.
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>>583800765
>"oh boy, I really want to replay deltarune today!"
>starts from chapter 7
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>>583800181
The thing is, he still does not exercise that agency, and if this is the culmination of his trials, then it falls flat for me. It kinda felt as if Toby was too protective of his characters to go all the way - too protective of Ralsei to really let him go through the wringer and too protective of Flowery to let him be more of a dick who commits to the bit instead of suddenly delivering a saccharine lesson halfway through.
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>>583800873
>people discussing the game and absolutely no bait
huh
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nobody wants to look at noelle from a feminist lens because she is a lesbian or something which means everything is fine
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>>583790986
AHAHAHA I FIGURED IT OUT.
NO AMOUNT OF SCHIZOPHRENIC SPAGHETTI CODE CAN STOP ME.
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>>583800873
you must be new around here
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>>583800821
She only exists to get hit on by berdly and vague post about her sister.
Oh yeah and the Ferris wheel scene he couldn’t be bothered to actually do at the festival and made us close our eyes and use our imagination.
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i was hoping that ralsei would've used his fire magic more after he accidentally used it. i dunno.. felt like there was just nothing to that so why even show it.
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>>583800087
Chapter 5 aborted Noelle will be mostly the same except a stinger at the end a-la tainted pacifist
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>>583800804
nothing desu. ralsei's arc here felt like a sparknotes version of his whole deal. like if you’re the type that just ignored him for almost ten years you got to be forcibly exposed to his characterization in 5, no chance to ignore it
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>>583800873
On the contrary, I like it when we can discuss the game without instantly resorting to shitflinging
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>>583800964
He demonstrates his newfound resolve when he acts in passion to save Flowery because he cares about him even though rationally he “knows” there is nothing he can do to reverse the damage done to him.
>saccharine lesson
The lesson isn’t “saccharine” just because it’s life-affirming. Flowery models a passionate existence for him.
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>>583800964
you can tell he really really wanted you to like the flowers and pink from the fact that under absolutely no circumstance you can hurt them to progress the story (except for the first encounter with aqua)
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>>583800873
lol, lmao even
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>>583800873
I said it before but this is the time I’ve visited /utg/ the least not because of problems with /utg/ itself, but because the rest of the site feels fucking atrocious now in a way that just brings me down
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Couldn't have Toby just given Ralsei something cooler to do instead of just healing Flowery and burning a shuriken. Like I get the intention but the execution isn't selling it, like come on. He even gets to leave early in the Flowery boss fight, for what reason??
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>>583801241
not being able to let yellow blow himself up or even harm himself was so annoying
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Goat boobies
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>>583801058
see >>583801120. ralsei having fire magic *at all* was a huge shock to many people. they didn’t internalize the prophecy panel or realize he used it in 4
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>>583800873
It's Toby Fox's fault for making such an aimless chapter to stick it to the "lore heads" who dared to like the Battat motif too much
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is it so wrong to like aqua while also being anti lgbt
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>>583801502
magma is better, it’s got courtney
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>>583801502
It completely missed the themes and such of the game and the point of participating in a gay furry fandom adjacent internet space.
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>>583801323
what else could he have used it on? i also thought it was kinda lame but what would you have liked to see
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>chapter 5 was good because flowery
really sick of the people who worship this useless nothing joke character
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>>583801323
The structure of Flowery's boss fight is lowkey incoherent.
I thought the giant tower was literally wrapped around the dark fountain which was really clever, but no, it's just a big tower. So Susie throwing you again isn't a call back to what you learned together it's just you need to go higher to then run over to the fountain or whatever.
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>>583801323
>-20HP shuriken
This logic confuses me. The scene obviously implies that Susie is off-guard and liable to receive serious injury from the bullet. It’s also an example of Ralsei’s own love for his friends overcoming the arbitrary limitations he places on himself. What Flowery is trying to draw out of him is real.
>healing flowery
This is one of the best moments in the Chapter, even if it isn’t “cool.” Ralsei will do “cool” things in the climax.
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>>583801668
This but Tenna.
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>>583801668
flowery is the only good flower though
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>>583801401
to me it was the fact that he actually uses it (and then never again lol), but yeah this is why gaster is not happening and whoever believes that is delusional
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tenna deez nutz
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>>583801776
This but both Flowery and Tenna
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>>583801721
Healing Flowery is not nearly as cool as Susie dunking Kris into a Titan or Noelle sinking into the water, this just makes Ralsei feel lame. He owes me hype moments.
Also, it's still just a shuriken. I don't have the suspension of disbelief that would've harmed Susie significantly. I get the point, but it's not a very good setup, was there really no way this could've been better executed? Maybe against one of the Flowers' combined Omegas during their fights?
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Deltarune is made for people who watch the game on another screen while doing something else
The people who have been paying attention are going to be disappointed. Chapter 6 will likely be about introducing Dess into the story and revealing that she was Noelle's sister who went missing
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If I weren’t a lazy faggot I’d like to get one of those /co/ 3-character fusion templates and do Spamton/Tenna/Flowery
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>>583801682
>smart flowery be like:
>"hmm let me fly downward"
>>583801721
they survived the knigh swoon, surely a random shuriken can't be worse
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>>583801620
actually magma has susie and kris and ralsei and noelle and spamton and tenna and battat and fujo and guro and fuzzy and nicecream guy and berdly and catti and catty and bratty and burgerpants and asgore and toriel and carol and snowdin bunny and pluey and lancer and k round and mettaton and alphys and sans and papyrus
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>>583801194
>He demonstrates his newfound resolve when he acts in passion to save Flowery because he cares about him even though rationally he “knows” there is nothing he can do to reverse the damage done to him.
For all Ralsei's been put through, this feels like a very underwhelming payoff. He was showing signs of caring about Darkners much earlier than that with Yellow, and he was already willing to go against fate at the end of Ch4, so Flowery's entire schtick feels pointless at the end.
>The lesson isn’t “saccharine” just because it’s life-affirming.
The way it's just served to Ralsei without him reaching the conclusion himself makes that scene kind of weak, the only way it'd work would be if Toby intended for Flowery to be a failure mentor, which is something that people have theorized and I also don't wanna rule out, but it's kind of hard to tell with how it's been executed.
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he did it better, everything he did was better
flowery was just a cheap lame copy
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he looks like he lies in a big bed with human men while wearing no clothes (the bed is heart shaped)
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>>583801649
The issue with utdr being an lgbt furry fandom space is that toby created not-explicitly-furry characters with mass appeal like pink and queen and muffet and seth
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>>583802576
LAAAAAAAAARP toby didn't create muffet
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>>583801824
he'll probably use it in the next chapter(s). my crack theory is that, since noelle's special item (gilded rose) increases attack over magic, whatever enemies pop up in 6 will need to be fought vs being spared. dragon blazers also specified that the boss reflects fire attacks, which implies that ralsei will no longer be a (huge) boon, but he will be there
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>>583802075
I didn’t say Susie was at risk of death. I said Susie was at risk of serious injury. And Ralsei cares enough about her to prevent that from happening if he can.
>>583802040
It wouldn’t make sense for it to happen during the Flowery fight because the Flowers don’t want to cause Susie actual harm. The shuriken is a mindless bullet-obstacle which would have struck her at a vulnerable moment by chance. It was the last obstacle of the trap room the team just cleared.
>>583802296
>he was willing to go against fate at the end of ch4
Not really. He was willing to hope that the decisions that Kris and Susie make might be able to change fate. Mercy, Sparing, which is Kris’s decision. Susie’s unpredictability. In Chapter 5 HE decides to act to change fate himself. He affirms the value of his own passion even in the face of his total knowledge of fate.
>this is just served to ralsei
I don’t understand what the point of saying this is. Even if broken, Flowery is more than glass. He has an impact on others which will be carried forward into the future. A big part of that is his impact on Ralsei. The beauty of his dream, or the fact of his willingness to dream, inspires Ralsei. Why can’t one character be inspired by another? Why does Flowery have to be a repetition of the Gerson “mentor” archetype? Flowery isn’t a teacher, he’s a flower. A symbol.
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Deltarune's story is becoming a "Themes and such" case very quickly
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>>583802648
Ok my bad fuck I should kill myself
In my defense she fits so well that I forget she’s a backer character
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>>583802815
What's that mean
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>floweryfag is back to replying to the entire thread as he desperately defends the chapter again
hate these episodes
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>>583802780
he is a rapist
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>>583802815
that's why the weird route is the true ending
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>>583802815
Stories are acts of communication between people that carry meaning. Messages. A message of a story is called a theme, a specific point made about some kind of general thematic topic like love or freedom or faith or identity. Everything about the story exists to further its central purpose, which is the communication of the theme. Themes are the point. If the story is cluttered with elements with no thematic relevance, it is written in an inelegant fashion.
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>>583802975
Let's watch a season 2 episode instead... I don't know what's going on but it's better than season 5
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why can't fave find any motivation to draw...
is it because fave hasnt beaten live a live yet??
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Is someone else without pants on right now
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>>583802975
Why come to the Underrune fan club if people liking Underrune bothers you this badly
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>>583802975
>he
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What if Fave was morbidly obese and floated around in the air with the use of a personal movement contraption of some sort?
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>>583802974
When the writing bends itself around the themes and message but the planning of the story isn't good enough, resulting in questionable execution and decisions that don't feel like they make a lot of sense, nor were the best choice
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>>583803309
Do you absolutely without question enjoy every aspect of Undertale and Deltarune completely and wholly 100%?
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>>583803296
i was in the shower 15 minutes ago, does that count?
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If defending the game reads like threadshitting I’ll stop.
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>>583803296
no, it's getting cold here
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Goat shower...
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>>583803416
Do you get this upset every time people disagree with you or just when it's Toby's games
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>>583800862
ralsei is inherently lame he will never do anything cool
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>>583803613
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>>583803507
It's insane to claim being positive and talking about the actual game and why you like is a bad thing and somehow threadshitting. I can disagree with you but your posts have always been interesting.
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>>583803657
bold statement
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>>583803657
he's done cool stuff like killing the sound of justice in 3 hits when susie and kris were jobbing about it. otherwise his cool is simply not yet shonen hype and aura moments
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goat golden shower in the goat shower...
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>>583803657
wait till he will fuse with asriel to create the ultimate goat form
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>>583803657
>inherently lame he will never do anything cool
erm sis ralsei deltarune is a main character.. your fave probably is not lol. worry about them, tuh
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IT'S RAINING GOATS
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>>583803631
>the only reason anyone could ever deride chapter 5 is if they are personally upset at toby
There you go again
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>>583802780
>He was willing to hope that the decisions that Kris and Susie make might be able to change fate.
I do have to agree with this one. But I think that having a whole separate chapter and a separate character in order to nudge Ralsei one degree closer to his full potential is a bit of an overkill when he could have achieved it by himself more organically.
>Why can’t one character be inspired by another? Why does Flowery have to be a repetition of the Gerson “mentor” archetype? Flowery isn’t a teacher, he’s a flower. A symbol.
And the previous point kinda brings me to this: at no point it feels like Ralsei actively learns anything. He sits there and gets pinballed from one gag to the next while Flowery can't decide if he wants to aggravate Ralsei into showing his true power or pamper him into believing in himself, ending up looking like he himself is not sure. And the whole "against all odds" message IS a good one, but when it's followed up with an equivalent of jumping into traffic, it kind of gets lost. Flowery reads more like a tragic case of what happens when you don't have anything but belief, and that alone gets you nowhere.
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>>583803693
ough
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>>583803923
>Schizoid accusation
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nobody likes aqua anymore but it’s okay since I’m the only aqua truther that needs to exist
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>>583803507
yeah same as the other dude i rag on you and i wholly disagree but you can say whatever you want here
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>>583802296
You're also missing the part Ralsei stands for the darkner Pink, this is also an important showcase of Ralsei caring for darkners beyond his servitude, his character growth is very visible and not pointless
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THIS HALLOWEEN
*glass breaking*
COMING STRAIGHT FROM YOUR HOUSE
*riff solo*
DELTARUNE CHAPTER 6
*shining soul sound*
IS WAITING!
*don't forget motif*
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>>583804160
Nobody but toby gives a shit about pink
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>>583804347
I care.
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>>583804340
this makes me sad. i hope he is absolved of all suffering but only after i get to see it
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>>583804423
hi toby
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>>583804347
Pink is awesome though
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>>583804160
And that's also something he shows before Flowery's big "dying" moment, proving that he had that in him already.
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eagerly awaiting 2028 when the underrune community cancels toby for not making ralsei trans, making him forever regret putting the goat in a dress
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I don't even care if chapter 6 is below average in terms of gameplay, I just want the story, characters to get back on track and start remembering the stakes that were already set up in the 2 previous chapters
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>>583797450
It's /v/ but as an eternal general.
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only character non quirky chungus that toby ever made
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Are there other examples of stories that seem to be going bad because its fans and its author have a different vision about what's more important about it?
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>>583804651
he will never be cancelled but i hope he continues to never put explicit tranny stuff in his work
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>>583804573
In what way is reusing an unfunny undertale character for the final secret boss anything other than lazy and self indulgent
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>>583804727
Asriel is not a chungus, he's a certified cutie patootie and tragic tragedy and sometimes a salad
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>>583804794
>never
the tralsei was promised to them 3000 years ago (in their heads)
the discourse will continue for months, minimum
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>>583804801
I don't know if you noticed but the entire chapter 5 is reused concepts
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confess your sins
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>>583804727
dude what if smiling murder child is just another flavor of quirky chungus
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The type of shit Hometown residents are gonna see killing their neighbors in 7B.
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>>583804934
Yeah that's part of the reason why it sucks so hard
We didn't need a jazz orchestra remix of rude buster or the field of hopes and dreams
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Fish I wish
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>>583804874
considering he was always attacked to chara's cock we can consider them as one character
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>>583804941
I miss old /utg/ sometimes. I wish I could enjoy old /utg/ without being in the same terrible spot I was back in 2020 and probably before that
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>>583804898
i don't see it. if anything i think ralsei could be "trans" in that he is a null being that gained a gender. and in this case the wave of moralfaggotry over misgendering a heckin trans man for years will be fun to see
but nobody will ever direct intense hatred towards toby
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>>583804347
toby cares about
>pink
>ralsei
>wacky hijinx

maybe toby just doesnt care about the things we want him to
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>>583804762
TADC and bigot of a boss
both suffered from fans expecting things to actually happen based on the original premise but instead they got gay drama and shipping
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>>583805074
but glorious nippon tho
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>>583804762
We're not there yet with DR, I don't think. For all my gripes with the plot of Ch5, it was still a good chapter because of literally every other aspect of it. Ch6 will be the big decider though.
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>>583805165
wow are you me???
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>>583805197
>thinking trans men matter to the alphabet squad
lol
they're a convenient accessory to them at best
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>>583805152
Minor spelling mistake, I win. I specifically win Chara and Asriel's petite shota butts
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Should fave come out to their parents or just let it go until they find a boyfriend - Pondered Asgore 25 years ago
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>>583804651
I think he's just gonna completely disappear once DR is over. At least his already (and probably deliberate) limited public online presence will go.
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>>583804801
Pink’s fight has an entirely different thematic significance to the Mew Mew fight in the Switch version of Undertale. Pink’s fight is a delicious, fascinating reflection on the game’s view of the relationship between fiction and reality. A Lightner discovers herself through fiction, through fantasy, through a Darkner, a being that exists on a lower level of reality. It’s a really beautiful affirmation of the value of dreams, fantasy and fiction, of all human creative endeavor, of its capacity to transform lives and people for the better, in an age when the liberal arts are generally considered useless because they lack the desired economic utility. It also though touches on the often toxic relationships people can form with fictional characters, where they subsume a character they relate to into themselves as they are now, totally eradicate what makes the character different from themselves, turn them from a goal and an other into a masturbatory costume and functionally destroy the character as they were actually intended by the original author, which is massively disrespectful and unhealthy etc etc. The fight is also visually awesome with kickass music and really fun to play. I don’t understand why people don’t like her
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>>583805378
both paths are perfectly valid i'd say
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Fave does know hurt.
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>>583805371
guess I will kill myself
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>>583805370
well yeah but you know how social media and fandom spaces are. especially deltarune's, where people love to browbeat others over missing something that was totally obvious. imagine future knight arguments once that’s revealed, everyone is going to claim they totally knew it was gonna be x and anyone who didn’t is a retard
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>>583805438
are you trying to larp as flowery when you write up these big apologetic posts full of empty fluff or does acting like an insufferable fag just come naturally to you
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>>583805515
nyoo don't do that
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It's established that Ralsei isn't actually an object that's with Kris at all times, since Ralsei can be with Susie in Castle Town while Kris isn't there. What's the current speculation on what Ralsei is, and what in-game text supports it?
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>>583805615
No you’re the chibi
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>>583805631
turns out that kris just slipped ralsei into susie's pockets in chapter 4
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Super High School Level Nuisance
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>>583805631
He's a ROOTS vague slopshit plantner thing that will ultimately be unsatisfying when it's revealed
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>>583805631
either a plant, kris' knife, or the deltarune program
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>>583805438
The only reason I can see people really didn't like Pink is because Chapter 5 had this completely misunderstood aura about how it was gonna end with the roaring and people still wanted super schizo bosses. And that she's technically not anything new so it comes off a bit of a "bland" choice.
>It also though touches on the often toxic relationships people can form with fictional characters
This is a much more interesting reading about Pink - Ghost with Player - Kris than the usual "the fight is about you should stop being mean to Kris and work together" but it still kinda relies on if the game's really going to explore this route
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>>583805779
play the game

>>583805631
the impossibility line matters a lot, 'cause it means he needs to be unique; he also needs to be something that justifies the level of attention the narrative gives him, so i'm predicting it's something we haven't seen yet. like a concept darkner, unless the weather channel darkners count as that
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>>583805596
at least we have documented evidence for the latter
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>>583805719
LOL! epic chapter 5 jaORANGE reference brosephus!
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>>583805631
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>>583805984
I want to stick my dick in Tree Ralsei's knothole.
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>>583803507
Ignore the /v/shitter and keep posting. He's the real threadshitter.
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>you cant like orange now
i hate these chibis
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>>583805973
Thank you for your attention to this matter
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>>583805773
Super High School Level Annoying Doggo
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The Amazing Digital Shartcus was the worst thing to happen to Deltarune’s fanbase.
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I really liked the part in chapter 5 where there was that character doing that thing
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>>583805152
*pussy
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What does the Amazing Helluva Digital Gamerverse have to do with Deltarune?
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>>583805631
my cool theory is that he's the prophecy itself trying to stop itself from happeneing by becoming the 'prince from the dark'
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>>583806353
Everything
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>>583803719
Nobody ever talks about why they like chapter 5 though
They just quote flowery and dump fan art while calling everyone else a media illiterate toby hater who wanted gaster stimmies
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>>583806438
aCute
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RAPINDOOMER
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>>583806146
She's alright
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>>583806458
they like the themes and such, I thought it was clear
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>>583806353
Those are a big inspiration for toby just like how Omori was
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>>583806478
You're a cute
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Pfft… CHEESEcake?
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I cannot believe there are people who dislike Orange, it's so insane and dumb when she's completely harmless, moreso I guess I'm disappointed people didn't love her as much, this is such a shame you should all shun from looking at the mirror but perhaps I expected too much from the fandom
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>>583797910
Is Kraut even still alive? It's been a while since I've seen him
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>>583806834
orange is one of the better flowers because her dynamic with ralsei is funny, 'marigold the giant rat' is one of his top ten lines
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What was up with the scene where Flowery turned Ralsei to ash and took his spot in the party briefly
Nobody ever talks about it and for me that was the point where he became completely irredeemable
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>>583806458
If you didn't like Chapter 5, you don't appreciate the whimsy journey for what it's for, therefore you fundamentally don't get Deltarune
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>>583806914
:)
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Susie is also bi and wants Ralsei but Noelle feels really weird about having a threesome with Kris' not-brother.
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>>583806458
That is a little weird, considering that even though I didn't like Flowery and some of the plot issues, I thought Ch5 was still very good.
I really enjoyed the shift to platforming, the bosses and the minibosses, the sudden but welcome difficulty increase, the endearing new Darkners, the Floradinns specifically, all of the flowers except the aforementioned one, the humor in general and all of the Light World scenes. Which is a big damn list, all things considered.
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dummy need hug
post dummy-huggers
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>>583806659
ugh cute cute cute
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>>583807015
I didn't appreciate how flowery and the rest of the flowers kept annoying the shit out of the characters I had spent the previous 4 chapter with
The whole thing felt spiteful both in game and to the audience
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>>583806834
Orange's only genuine positive relationship is with Pink. Everyone else is just humoring the annoying little kid that doesn't know any better to varying degrees.
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>>583806914
>>583807035
he is in our hearts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WrMj2qSe8A
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What was up with the time when Oscar tripped me in middle school and took my spot in the lunch line briefly
Nobody ever talks about it and for me that was the point where he became completely irredeemable
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>>583807182
woag
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>>583807168
stop being mean to her you CHIBI!!
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>>583806914
he is, he made an image edit of some theory fairly recently

though i think ch5 not being literally just flowey again took most of the wind out of his sails
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>watching flowery fight the knight
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People complain Chapter 5 has obnoxious flowers but nobody complained about Roulx
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>>583807396
Most people stopped thinking he was funny after the forced throuple bit.
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>>583807396
i thought his presence in ch3 was godawful if it makes you feel any better
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>>583807396
roulx is funny and has a cool outfit and hair
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>>583807396
There are people who complain about Rouxls, Lancer, and Tenna. They simply can’t be helped.
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>>583807182
erm she is 17 and the quarters years old you sick FUCK
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>>583807167
but why would you be more interested in the main characters?
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>>583807248
Oscar would never do that
>>583807540
I was tired of Lancer for a while but he has grown on me. Fondling makes the heart grow fonder or whatever
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>>583807178
Your dad fucks dead deer.
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>>583807396
he gets like 20 minutes at max per chapter, not an entire fucking chapter (and the longest one)
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I like every Fave
I like Susie
I like the Flowers
I like Rouxls Kaard
I even like Cap'n
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>>583807691
He was particularly annoying in Chapter 3 with a lot of screentime you could not skip from
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>>583807728
cap'n did absolutely nothing wrong
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>>583807301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag0Egh7ZAwQ this is aqua and orange when no one else is looking, sorry to break it to you
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>>583786004
I had a funny idea I was doodling between tasks at work. Catti gets to the Dark World and she's just the completely wrong class from what everyone expected.
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My homie did nothing wrong
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>>583807614
>summer camp island Azzypedo
Go to jail.
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>>583807768
>elnina lanino rainbow road
>his fight
that's it
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I hope Chapter 6 starts like this
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>>583807818
Based

>>583807396
retarded
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>>583807510
>“Throuple”? That word… is WOKE, isn’t it…?
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>>583807396
the narrative never tries to bait you into feeling sympathy for rouxls. everyone in game understands he is a retarded faggot loser and at no point is his retardation framed as anything but that. the one good thing about him is that he genuinely cares for lancer but even that isn’t used an excuse for him being a goofy little creep who nobody wants to deal with. this makes him likable
the flowers (barring flowery) are like rouxls but played entirely straight
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another day of mostly sleeping is in order for fave, maybe ch6 will release when fave finally wakes up
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>>583807932
Tasquetarded.
Inbred potato face.
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>>583807917
>:)
Gets me every time
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>>583807965
I thought the Flowers were Sweet Cap'n Cakes and Suselle and Asriel and Nice Goats
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When Green gave me that free cheese, I knew they were an irredeemable faggot loser.
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WELCOME TO PEDO JAIL DARK WORLD
SAY HELLO TO JAIL TOILET DARKNER TOILETBOB
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>>583807939
Toby being a Chud for making the poly shit toxic
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>>583807965
that description of rouxls made me lol harder than it probably should have
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>>583808085
>gives you something to eat
>"OOOOHHH zoomy mama you're so good and kind literally the best person in the entire universe!!!!!!"
and people don't see the problem in the writing of chapter 5
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All of those diner scenes with the flowers were incredibly lame
Each one made me hate them more and more
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Fave wonders what's for dinner.
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>>583808280
they were completely optional
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>>583808254
You’re just jealous you didn’t get any, Kris.
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>>583808348
NOTHING! NOW STOP BOTHERING ME!
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>>583808392
nothing is optional if you're real underune freak
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Alphys' Dinner Blaster backfires and makes Asriel fat
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gonna cry :(
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>>583808280
The Green cheese scene whatever it's labeled in-game, I forgot, is the funniest scene in the game so far. The Green and Orange fight itself is the most boring and pointless fight in the whole game so far. Truly a game of sometimes good sometimes bad maybe I don't know whatever
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>>583808392
even chapter 5 dark world it's optional
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Feed the Krisp
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>>583807273
yo numbers I commed a new book character dragon. 140 bucks well spent
https://files.catbox.moe/agn25i.png
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>>583805631
titan
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>>583808469
stupid smelly escapist cries in the dark instead of drowning herself at world's end
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>>583808075
what? shut up
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>>583808857
ignore the local schizophrenic
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>>583808793
>touching the honey with their fingers
>>583809042
>crumbs everywhere
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>>583808254
exactly lmao
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utg ure cringe
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>>583809134
Kris is a passionate eater
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if rouxls was written like the flowers ralsei would’ve said
>oh wow rouxls you like to break up couples and do polyamory?! that’s so cool! want to have a 3p with me and kris?
and honestly i would’ve cheered im ngl
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>>583809217
nyo...
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>>583809217
not me I’m everyone’s favorite poster they all smile when they see my iconic posts
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>>583809157
It's also funny how susie shows next to no gratitude towards ralsei for 4 chapters despite all he did for her and him putting up with her bullshits, but the moment a random ass darkner is slightly kind suddenly they're the best.
ungrateful bitch
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>>583809525
nah there’s a lot of that in 3/4. she’s the first one to tell him he’s real and matters
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There's no doubt that Chapter 5 probably has the most flaws out of all the chapters. (Asgore buildup and resolution felt very weak and was resolved off-screen, some of the self-referential humor was awful, PINK was underwhelming after Gerson etc.)
But that being said, it's still the best chapter. It reaches the highest highs. It's got the most soul. It's got love like no other.
Sorry, but that''s how it is and how it will be.
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>>583809042
>>583809232
look at this thing
how could dess resist
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>>583810085
that thing it's far past their prime
>>583810052
objectively wrong statement
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>But that being said, it's still the best chapter.
just saying anything
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>just saying anything
just saying anything
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>>583810052
>has the most flaws out of all the chapters
>still the best chapter
Do you even read the posts you write
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>>583810052
For me, it's exactly what Toby said it would be: a fun adventure. It's indeed very fun when you ignore its attempts at delivering some deep message, and it has a very effective bittersweet ending. In the end, it's a good chapter preceded by 4 perfect ones, and it's not a shame to be a little short of perfection.
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anything
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>>583810652
>It's indeed very fun when you ignore the themes and such and pretty much everything aside from the jingling keys platformer parts
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>>583810652
>it's good if you have no expectations
thanks doc
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>>583810815
jinglingkeysfag...
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it's raining goats, but how many?
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>>583811251
one
one goat(s)
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If Deltarune is a real JRPG then how come the Fun Gang haven't gotten an airship yet
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i didn’t enjoy 5 but i also don’t get why talking about the themes of the chapter is dismissed as “themes and such”
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>>583810652
When people read one last fun chapter, no one was thinking "can't wait to see an entire cast of boring, one-off characters being introduced and forgotten about shortly after." They're not funny or interesting enough to sustain a whole chapter
>>583811251
Not enough. It's a dry season
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>>583811490
chapte 7 pirate gaster trust
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>>583811541
>ok so maybe everything about the chapter was bad but you could really FEEL flowery's struggle you could FEEL his hopes and dreams
>it all relates very deeply to the themes and such just wait for the next chapter
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would you rather have a chapter with gameplay but no story, or a chapter with story (unlimited story) but no story?
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>>583811724
i still don't get it
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no idea what to draw today for day 8 anons. any prompts or ideas?
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>>583811790
Can I have a normal question
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Why didn't everyone get buck naked during the onsen scene? Doesn't toby want to be a real Japanese?
Why does he hate his fans so much?
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NO MORE FUCKING INTERRUPTIONS WHEN IM BLENDERING
FUCK
THE NEXT DELIVERY TRUCK I SEE IS GETTING SHOT AT
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Square root of minus story
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>>583811869
Susie encountering two Sanses
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>>583811353
>>583811589
only one goat is a drought indeed.... how troubling
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>>583804941
I keep a tab with my anchored art open for a few days so I can read the replies because people saying nice things to me makes me feel okay for a while and helps me not stress or be sad
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>>583811845
thing bad me big ooga ooga
these guys rarely play the games and work off of catchphrases
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why are there so many images of kris at the fridger
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>>583811541
because they're done poorly
somehow when toby thinks "oh man they're not going to like this" it's going to be the best thing ever made in the game while when he thinks "they're surely gonna like it" it's dogshit
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>>583811869
Fave in the wrong outfit.
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>>583811885
you get a chapter with unlimited gameplay but it has no story
OR
a chapter with unlimited story but no more story
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>>583812040
Kris canonically eats whole pies and boxes of chocolate off-screen so fridge raiding seems like something they would do
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>>583812040
Kris is a growing, hungering child
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october is supposed to be the month of drawing but i drew fave once and got too depressed to do anything after
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>>583812254
the gameplay would have to be good. but i wouldn't mind "the adventure goes on forever" game with the whole cast of deltarune.

I think deltarune has a good format for a game that goes on and on. Depends on what "no story" means tho. Because if its just a fight simulator, that does get old (unless the fights are really good)

but if it just means no over arching story, im ok with that.
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>>583811913
because it would have been problematic, love is fine but only platonically
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If Goku went to Flower Castle would Green be able to keep up with his appetite
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>>583812445
What was drawing of fave? Can I see it?
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i love CHASRIEL
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>>583812920
cute shotas
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>>583812823
Goku accidentally inhales Orange while eating, then coughs her out with such force that she shoots right through Flowery, one-shotting him instantly
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>>583812891
it was bad and i made it for a friend, my only friend
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>>583812920
Don't we all. I mean hopefully we all do
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>>583812996
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>>583813075
Well if it was made for a friend it can't be bad, merely *technically unrefined*. It was made with love! I hope your friend appreciated it.
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Susie was an iPad child.
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wish fave's sweaty bog pussy was big-spooning me rn
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>>583813298
yah i hope so... i just wish i had it in me to practice again
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>>583813673
She ate at least 5 of them because her father kept putting on gifs of dancing fruit
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>>583814120
Undertale Vs Capcom Alternate Costumes
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Do 5 push-ups RIGHT NOW
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>>583814673
can i get back in bed after
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>>583814673
I can do at least 50
And I do need to exercise, thank you for the reminder
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>>583814913
Yes JUST DO IT
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Am I the only one who loves the world, cliffs area, vibes, and melancholy of chapter 5 but dislikes characters and thinks platforming is mid?
it's literally a chapter 2 era fan dark world in best ways possible
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>>583814673
>5 push-ups
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>>583814673
5 MATING PRESSES DONE DRILL SERGEANT SIR! WHAT NEXT DRILL SERGEANT SIR?
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Had a dream me and a lot of /utigee/ went on a vacation together to Cayman Islands but on the way back a bunch of the group got busted for child porn on their computer at security so it was just me and like two other guys left
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>>583815165
I love the world, cliffs area, vibes and melancholy of chapter 5 but I also like the character and thought the platforming was fun and felt really good to control
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Well, I saw a guy go into the Dark World and he was bald.
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>>583815067
that was really tough i feel exhausted
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>>583815187
okay this made me laugh to the point where I actually did it good one anon
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>>583815165
You're not the only one, the flowers pissed off people so bad it created like several schizo regulars
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some people see melancholy, I see deliberately annoying
Chapter 5 was the monkey maze part of Deltarune
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why couldn't i take eram to the festival
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>>583815373
Good job
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Ralsei is too scared of the unknown to break away from the prophecy.
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>>583815165
the world is fine, the platforming could have been better a lot but it's ok. the characters well...
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>>583815497
chapter 3 and even 2 felt more melancholic than 5
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>>583812017
I screenshot my replies so I can always see the yous...
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>>583815165
The atmosphere and the world were great, but I also liked most of the characters because they were mostly humorous and/or not directly involved with the plot, which was the one definite weak point of all the Dark World segments. I found the platforming to be fun, adds some variety to the gameplay.
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>>583815835
end of chapter 3 was very melly
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>>583815747
lul
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>>583809134
You can never wash it all away
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I'm not gonna let /utg/ convnce me the flowers were mid when I got misty eyed at this scene
https://youtu.be/JpXp593ZM-o?is=PXK91jNrDi_hvtdb
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>>583815516
eram was banned from all festivals for using a lit stick of dynamite as their partner for the hammer game
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>>583816225
*jingles keys in your face while sad music plays*
You will never hear these keys jingling again by the way. This is the last time anyone will ever hear their hopeful jingling...
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>>583816225
oooooooo
you are feeeling verry sleeepyyyy
ooooooo
you think the flowers are quite miiiiiiid
oooooo
and anybody who does is a key jingler whoooore
ooooooooo
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>>583816225
type of guy that cries when a mosquito gets eaten by a spider
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Oh keyjinglefag is back that explains it
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*jingles my keys in your chibi*
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What is this fucking faggot ass mentality where people get bent out of shape if you think any story is worth analyzing in a deeper way instead of treating it like a consumable product
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>>583816720
He upgraded to key jingler whore, that's how you know he's serious
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>>583816826
fuck you you bitch ass
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>>583816826
the curtains were fucking blue, sweaty
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>>583812017
That's not a sin anon, no matter what some people here might say. There is nothing wrong with sharing your work and being happy others took notice. Don't let other crabs drag you down the bucket.
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>>583816826
Porky is still in there to this very day
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>>583816908
You probably shouldn't wipe your sweat on the curtains
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>>583816826
That sums up Chapter 5 discourse to me, it’s not even my favorite by any stretch but it’s odd when someone is spazzing out specifically because analysis is somehow bad
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YOU IDIOT
IM NOT A FAVE AT ALLLLLLLL
AHAHAHAHAHAA
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If you try to read into a story you are matpat trying to prove you are smarter than the author. If the author wanted you to know or think something they would've just told you.
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>>583816826
I don't care about analyzing something that was ass
The fact that toby has had to patch chapter 5 so much really says it all
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>>583817060
>The guy who establishes capitalism and destroys the natural world in order to acquire vast amounts of wealth to satiate his greed is a fat guy named "Porky"
Bravo Kojima
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I cried and cummed when splongy bongy said "thank you for watching my piss" I felt so emotionally connected
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>>583816826
People feeling insecure about enjoying the story wrong, or wanting everyone else to enjoy it the "correct way", thankfully my brain frecuency matches Toby's and I know I'm the only one who understands deltarune
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AND SO HE PISSED
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>>583817130
Good thing the schizo's too slow to make it to the actual discussion
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>>583817224
>The fact that toby has had to patch chapter 5 so much really says it all
I finally remembered why I find this rhetoric so interesting, when the le ebin Friendtard “lore” got patched the original joke was that it was because Normal “Hometown Butcher” McNPC stole the spotlight of the silly blorbo smiling face, but later on - and only on 4chan - did it somehow morph into it being because of some hallucinated blowback against the chapter as a whole, like a perfect microcosm of the victim complex people here have
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>>583817283
Okay sorry it's stupid and bad please stop going schizo and thread shitting
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>>583812920
Cute shota and loli
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Fave had lunch with fave’s parents and was thinking about how the Flowers were treated by Asgore. Was thinking about The Diner, Flowery just wanting to have a meal with his caretaker and not being taken seriously at all.
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>>583817563
toby just forgot about it, which is very telling
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>>583817691
Flowery wanted to fuck Asgore, their relationship was made to teach Asgore to stop bothering Toriel
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>>583817691
Imagine instead of lunch dinner with your parents, you were having lunch with creatures in another dimension that kind of resembled your parents a little that are trying way too hard
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Flowery burping ASMR blares in my head every morning when eating breakfast
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We never got to meet Asdoor or Asfloor so chapter 5 is a failure
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>>583817951
What?
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I felt spiritually connected when I watched anon piss his pants
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>>583817860
asgore wanted to get as much as possible out of the dark world to find out what happened to dess
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>there are people who felt sad for SU OCs
ngmi
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>Everything I don't like is Steven's Universe
Ahhh that beings me back
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>imageless phoneposter chungus
lawl
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>>583818045
thank you for watching my piss
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>>583818045
Shoutout to that anon that made the gaster edit, it was so fucking funny
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how can you hate su and like undertale when they were the same flavor of quirky back in the day
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>inflammatory statement
snide comment
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carol just molested me in a crowded train car
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>>583818291
Limp bait
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>>583818207
TBF Toby said Seth was going to have white hair before his friends told him "that's just Steven Universe" I assume they meant Seth would look too much like Amethyst
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Fave always wanted to kiss Steven’s dad. This is the only time fave will ever admit this to anyone
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i hope 8 bit kris shows up again
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>>583814673
i did 5 and my heart is beating really fast but the burn felt good. im a weakling
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Sex with Peridot
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her fingers were so cold
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>>583818291
people don't think of papyrus or undyne dating alphys when they think of undertale, they think of flowey, asriel and the genocide
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>>583818447
Pearl...
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>>583815630
he knows exactly what will happen as informed do you want to see what happens when I, ME RALSEI breaks the rules
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>>583818418
seth was genuinely a 1:1 amethyst clone with no changes
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>>583818456
Cyan soul fight
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>>583818345
not to victim blame but it's your fault for putting yourself in a vulnerable position (being within 10 miles of a female holiday)
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>>583817860
Flowery was like his son.
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>>583818895
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Yellow is just an exact 1:1 replica of Yellow Diamond
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Does fave leave the dust jacket on or get annoyed and take it off
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>>583818961
Blame Tony not me
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>>583816225
the replies are very fucking funny good job utg
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STOP TALKING ABOUT STEVEN UNIVERSE I NEVER WATCHED IT AND I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING LEFT OUT
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>>583819302
you will never understand toby's vision
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Was it really necessary to have two (2) full chapters dedicated to Kris hijacking a plane? Toby please I don't give a shit about this. Where is Jack?
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>>583819302
ngmi
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>>583819278
You replied to my post 4 times friendo, enoug
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>>583819302
Going by what I have learned through cultural osmosis it's about a little green alien getting fucked repeatedly
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>>583819536
>Where is Jack?
Kris said hi to him on the plane
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>>583819536
jack in or jack out
jack on or jack off
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anons do you think there's anywhere kris could feel comfy and at peace that isn't beside susie
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Chapter sex
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>>583819795
inside ralsei
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>>583819719
Pic has me crying
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>>583819719
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>>583817931
When I'm in a haunting the narrative competition and my opponent is Child Kris.
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I'm gonna go to an undertale symphony but I haven't played the game past the snow area
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Should Toby use AI to help make the Chapters faster?
NOT to generate graphics or music or dialogue but everything else
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>>583820292
do you love chapter 5?
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>>583820321
What else is there?
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Theme of Kris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0odsSZw0tng
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oh that post was deleted lmao
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What are the narrative implications of Flowery’s glorious golden body naturally producing canonically delectable fruit punch and milk soda?
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>>583820321
yes
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>>583820461
He should use AI to analyze each chapter and tell him what changes he should patch in
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>>583820386
I haven't played any of deltarune
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>>583820521
he's pregnant
which was confirmed with the seeds kris found
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>>583820480
oh that... terrible post... got deleted...
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Do you suppose Blue and Orange would have thought Spider-Man was cool as fuck if they had gotten the chance to meet him
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>>583820461
Maybe it can generate whatever new chapter gimmicks easier or makes it easier to implement and test out new potential enemies?
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>>583820620
ok but do you like it or not?
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>>583819573
>i-it's all one guy!!
the power of 5ags
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>>583820784
Why didn't Flowery hire Susie to dress up like Spider-Man for Orange's birthday? Was he a bad big brother?
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What's interesting about the chapter 5 loathing is that it's been over 3 months since the chapter dropped. It's the kinda dedication that could only come from someone that really loved the game.

Rather than get into a pointless back-and-forth that won't help us see eye-to-eye, I would just like to express my sympathies. Something you loved disappointed you deeply. I've been there with other media and it sucks.
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>>583820521
He needs to release it all in my mouth
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it's actually five guys
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>>583821015
perhaps I judged you too harshly cattifag
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Pressing on Flowery’s ovaries with my shoe and killing him for yummy juicery
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>>583821015
what other media has been like this lately anyway?
all i can remember is chainsawguy
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>>583821015
I’ll always maintain that Susie felt off to me at the start. I don’t mind her being excited for this date or pretending that she never saw the final tragedy because those make sense for her character, but I can’t remember getting the indication that any of that was clear and not too subtle.
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why don't germs turn into anything in the dark world? don't their dreams matter?
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>>583821275
Burgers and fries?
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Flowery was voiced by Jerma in case you didn't know.
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>>583821015
Exactly, which is what makes it so obnoxious when there are a couple posters so weak they have to cry /v/ because I, and many others express 5’s shortcomings
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>>583821716
They're having microscopic Dark World adventures that you can't see because Kris has bad eyesight
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>Chapter 4: Monster dust can be a Dustner
>omg guys Ralsei is DEFINITELY a Dustner
>Chapter 5: Plants can be Plantners
>omg guys Ralsei is DEFINITELY a Plantner
>Chapter 6: Christmas cheer can be a Cheerner
>omg guys Ralsei is DEFINITELY a Cheerner
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Pawb Gang
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>>583821851
My personal problem is the irony-poisoned chungus mentality of arguments
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>>583822062
you just know he draws a shitton of nsfw and keeps it all for himself, greedy bastard
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>>583820891
I do
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>>583822017
>Cheerner
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>>583821015
they're broken records that repeat the same shallow routine of pointing at something and saying "it bad", then calling anyone else who says otherwise an insult while accusing the other side of doing that
it is the exact thing shitposters that don't play games and read off scripts do
same kind of poster that are only around to jack off and make lazy posts about other franchises
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>>583822135
The flowers outside of flowery are hard to describe as anything other than a quirk chungus or jingling keys unironically, but I try to use different wording like flat and forced
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>>583822304
green is anything but flat
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>>583822304
If you're in good faith and I've said this before but if you think the flowers were too quirk chungus I'm amazed you made it through Undertale, Deltarune, Deltarune Chapter 2 the most quirk chungus thing Toby's ever done
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>>583822304
This is kind of what I mean, it’s like you people are constantly disassociating and act like you magically spawned out of thin fucking air and you convey things like a sub-sharty monkey, post-Chapter 5 /utg/ fees bizarrely socially dysfunctional compared to the old days
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>>583808348
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>>583822446
fat ralph
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you guys have convinced me. chapter 2 is bad too
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>>583820017
this
soft life with his ralsei wife
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>>583820321
>The paid AI shills are in /utg/ now too
It's genuinely over
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>>583822495
cap's and shit were bad that's undeniable, but they're the only thing like that. berdly was the nerd looser, and queen felt more like a troll
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>>583822854
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fave survived first day at mcdonalds and it’s time for them to rest
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>>583822854
I'm not a paid AI shill I swear
It's just I see all this crazy AI shit and think maybe it can be used for shit that takes too much time but 0 visibility
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I hope my PS4 controller darkner isn't jealous of my new 8bitdo Pro controller darkner
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>>583822017
kek
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>>583820321
Might as well because Deltarune is souless now.
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>>583823064
Cub Scout Ralsei
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>>583823006
incomprehensible
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>>583823053
how was it
>>583823064
uuuooooohhhhh
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>>583822017
what would a cheerner look like
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it's called the house of faves because you turn 360 degrees and you faves
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why was kris’ phone not a darkner
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>>583823006
You stop every 5 minutes to have a wacky scene where Queen tells you to get the banana and Berdly falls with a Geocities explosion. That's not even me shitting on it, that's just what happens. I think you were a kid or something when Chapter 2 dropped and you're seeing it differently because that's before you became a jaded adult. I see that a lot with long-running series where the newest installment makes people realized the thing they liked didn't change, their tastes did
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>>583819154
You can show unwanted affection to your parent.
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>>583823290
chapter 2 is not as quirk chungus as 5
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>>583823461
i replayed 2 after 5 and loved queen though. she's still funny and more importantly she is the chapter boss, so her presence is necessary and makes sense
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>>583823461
Or maybe chapter 2 is just good. Maybe that's why people liked it back then and still like it to this day. Crazy concept, I know
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>it was just DIFFERENT-
*brap*
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>>583820321
They could use it to proofread and to look for bugs
It's good at these tasks (though IDK if game code is similar enough to the kind of code I'm used to for it to be effective) and this does not introduce slop
It could probably do certain programming tasks too but you'd have to be disciplined
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>>583823423
Option #1: It's some king of Egg or Shadow Crystal-type thing that doesn't change form between worlds (seems unlikely)
Option #2: It turns into an object that's not quite the Light World phone but is still phone-like enough to be seen as one because that's how Kris sees it or some shit like that
Option #3: It is a Darkner and that's why it yells at you when you push its buttons
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>>583823461
the quirkiness was balanced by the rest (spamton, noelle, etc.)
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>>583823785
>Or maybe chapter 2 is just good. Maybe that's why people liked it back then and still like it to this day.
Ignoring that 99% of it was wanking Longnose Whiteguy the 1st
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>>583823353
it wasn’t as bad as fave expected

here’s what fave did:
>car pulls up to order
>fave presses button on their headset
>”hi, are you using the mobile app?”
>if yes, they give the code to their order and the car gets passed along
>if no, ask them what they want, and fave struggles to find all the buttons on the screen for what item the person asked for
>if fave is confused, manager lady can lean over to do it for them, so there is zero consequence for failure
only difficult part for fave is needing to stand up for 7 hours with only one break
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>>583823461
queen only tells you to get the banana like twice and she says insightful stuff. the flowers don’t do jack shit
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>Comedy scenes, Cyber World:
>Comedy scenes, Japan:
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i thought ch2 was awesome
i liked ch5 as well but i like queen more than flowery because i think she is funnier, i liked her music and laugh a lot and i really like whenever she shows up in later chapters
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>>583823997
ganbatte anon. I'm applying for a bunch of jobs right now so I might join the McFamily too, who knows.
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>>583823936
The quirkiness was balanced out by SPAMTON?? The guy with the Sweepstakes? The guy with the meme song?? Meanwhile Chapter 5 had way more quiet emotional moments? Brother
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>chapter 5 glazer thinks this of 2
the irony
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Enough time has passed that you can see the nostalgia build up in the fanbase here and if Dragon Ball has taught me anything it’s that nostalgia is fucking retarded
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>>583824010
>she says insightful stuff.
the only thing vaguely insightful was the small part where she said being controlling was her way of trying to make everyone happy, was there anything else?
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>>583824043
That only works when people are shitting on the comedy scenes of Cyber World but nobody is doing that, we all like them.
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if dragon ball has taught me anything it’s that jiren is the strongest
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>>583824159
yes, spamton, the guy that tries to kill kris and get possession of the soul, arguably the most important thing in the game
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>>583824327
I thought about swapping the order but the original meme puts , Japan at the bottom so I thought it would lose more meaning
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>>583824276
It's crazy because I love Chapter 2 and 5 I'm just trying to get people to see through nostalgia goggles but it's impossible. Chapter 5 is always just "bad because it just is, okay?" I mean whatever, opinions are what they are, but this is why people don't take that one seriously here
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I like the flowers like everyone else but I won’t lie it feels like some people are forcing themselves to like all of them because they’re Toby Fox characters
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>we all like them
just saying anything
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>>583824159
Based off this post it would be fair to assume you've played neither 2 or 5. You're so far off making any sense, please replay both chapters and think about what you're saying
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Spamton and Jevil are serious business. Queen and Berdly too. Comedy was introduced in Chapter 5 to spite me, personally.
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I’m still confused as to when some people got the impression that Deltarune was this dark fantasy epic
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>>583824276
yeah the nostalgia bait of chapter 5 was really retarded
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>>583824159
>Sweepstakes
Non-canon, and not in Chapter 2 itself.
>The guy with the meme song
That's like saying Sans's fight isn't serious because MEGALOVANIA became a meme song.
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>>583824287
>her sad, sad searches
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>>583824576
Shit image holy fuck
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When it turned out Yellow HADN'T actually buried himself I knew Toby Fox was just toying with me for his own amusement
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>Lowercase Mcchungus replied to me
Gross
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>>583824159
queen is a chapter 2 character. she doesn’t come after an incredible cliff hanger and proceed to give us nothing
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>>583824439
>>583824524
I LIKE Spamton, but Tobert chapters have always been both quirky and serious so using that as a slight against 5 makes zero sense, especially when the ratio of seriousness in 5 is way higher than 2, and if you're going to say "but Snowgrave!" Chapter 5 literally has you and Noelle going into the lake which is the most horror-coded shit since UT Genocide
I'm done with this this is so futile
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>>583824145
it’s not the worst job, and btw if you write in your application that you’re fine with any hours, they raise your pay 6%
rn fave is doing 7 to 2
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>>583824576
Deltarune if Toby really was Japanese:
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>meme song
Think it's coming for me, answer the phone
I can't explain until you're all alone
It pulls the strings and makes them ring
Until your heart gets ripped up-
Think it's coming for me, answer the phone
I can't explain until you're all alo-
It pulls the strings and-
Pulls the strings and-
Tell you what, you big shot

>actual deeply meaningful song
Slaughtering the world
While forgetting my lunch
She's saving the day
Mew Mew, help me
She is saving the day
Collecting kitties
She is saving the day
I don't know the lyrics
Let's use Cutie Mew Mew Magic to transform!
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I wish I could hug fish right now
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Why is it considered controversial to say there’s a world of a difference between criticism coming from people who can reasonably narrow down what exactly bothered them like
>Asgore/Carol didn’t do as much as I was hoping they would
vs. aspergers types having a chronic meltie, blanket-hating the entire chapter in a way that sounds like they’re crapping on both Undertale and Deltarune in their entirety with the memeshit vagueposting terms they use, the most odd part being how you can tell these people are in constant mental agony too
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>>583823461
That’s one character who isn’t even that bad, but chapter 5 are these kinds of scenarios x6 with the flowers
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>>583823990
It wasn't JUST Spamton. Queen got memed into oblivion as well, and Snowgrave was a nuclear discovery for the fandom. Nothing in Chapter 5 stuck like that, Flowery was the biggest thing to come out of it and he reached maybe half of Queen's level of popularity.
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I find Susie's knight fight dialogue strangely amusing.
She is monologuing as the hero while the villain just is fighting for the most part. It almost feels schizophrenic because Ralsei and Kris don't say anything during the fight.
Ralsei only talked to the knight when they were about to summon a titan IIRC
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>>583825260
Nothing will reach Chapter 2's level of popularity because it was free during COVID. That's also why the Sonic Movie was a monumental success. If we're judging "quality" by "popularity" the conversation is already lost
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>>583824825
I don't know what you thought was gonna happen, stepping up to people who actually remember what happens in the game lol
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Very important /utg/ survey
https://poal.me/md2izu
https://poal.me/md2izu
https://poal.me/md2izu
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toby knows how to write quirk chungus' with personality that's why he's rich
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>>583824159
>5
>emotional
If you’re a child, I guess
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>>583825324
I find it funny because usually the trope is the villain monologuing but there it's the inverse
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>>583825396
I commend your level of schizo-baiting, it has genuinely exhausted me. Your insanity is beyond my patience
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>>583825440
guy who claps like a seal when someone calls the game troonshit
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>>583825409
meds
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>>583824825
spamton wanting to take the soul happens in the fucking normal route
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>>583825575
Nope, I don’t care about trans discussions. 5 wasn’t emotional because the flowers barring Flowery are jokes and asgore is so dumb it’s incredibly hard to feel bad or take him seriously
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Flowers are bad because they're new, Spamton Berdly Queen good because old. That's really all it ever is, it's Baby Duck syndrome. When Chapter 2 came out you had people shitting on it saying Toby would never match up to Undertale.
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>>583825463
Ralsei and the knight both know the script so they don't have anything to say and the knight caused them to panic because the knight went off script in that moment. And Kris is split in loyalties so they're not going to be saying anything out loud.
It has me wonder how much of it is a play to the knight and Ralsei.
And if the knight is a slave to prophecy, why did they go off script in that moment?
Due to Susie pushing them?
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>>583825793
This must be the "now you're just saying shit" shit that people keep talking about
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>>583818593
>people don't think of papyrus or undyne dating alphys when they think of undertale, they think of flowey, asriel and the genocide
Okay so revisiting this post since it kind of pertains to the typical baitposting happening right now, is this what shit's really about? Do some people here really have such a choleric disdain for the game(s) that they just mentally remove anything that isn't "serious"? Like fuck, man, it sounds like a huge inferiority complex way of thinking
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>>583825793
Good bait bro
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>>583825793
Ch 2 I recall being a jarring tonal shift like going right from 80's Jim Henson into the Regular Show
I even remarked on it feeling like the game version of a 2010's CN show at the time.
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>>583825906
>funko pop asriel
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I just poopedma pants
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>>583824276
I kind of get what you mean, like when people suck off the original Funi dub without remembering how 96% of it was insanely corny
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Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
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>>583826270
>>583826270
>>583826270
Hop on
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>>583825409
>The ones who have are afraid to say they have
How am I supposed to get accurate thread data like this
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>>583825912
it's about what sticks. do you remember every single line every npc has ever said? no, you remember the moments that matter. A random joke will have less importance that the core of the story
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>>583825912
>>583826515
>PAPYRUS
Dawg, the fandom power gap between Papyrus and 99% of the Undertales was enormous, what the hell is going on today
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