>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.November 4thPrevious Thread>>583810514
This is the thread.
>>583854983much better
This game is gunna have even worse balance then Classic does now.
Yep comfy
>>583854983Thank you OP
>>583854283 good job sloppa anon, we need her in a more revealing top though. dress bottoms are good
>roll rogue on hardcore>makgora someone>just stealth until they go to sleep or they have to step away and kill them 4-5 hours into the duelhow does this plan fail
LFG DM
Orc Warrior
>>583855187yeah maybe a little more design work on the clothes, too, at least to match the modelplain black is boring, where's the purple lace?
What's the deal with spellcasters? You cast a spell, run out of mana, then have to drink water! Then you do it all again! Who wants that?!
>>583855157That's genuinely not possibleI don't even know what to call this phenomenon. It's not rose-tinted glasses. It's just being so contrarian that you're completely out-of-touch with reality. Like you're so contrarian that you're compelled to say the most blatantly untrue things to feel something.
>>583855202anon we cant go into dire maul yet?
Every week I get more depressed about the state of ele sham and more convinced these devs don't have a fucking clue
New race: Nekots, female and female (male).Classes: warrior, rogue, druid, shaman and their exclusive class who no other race has angler a fisherman class who specializes in fishing and utilizing fished fish in battleSpecial racial ability: can charm creatures and players for up to 10 secondsOther racials: increased speed and damage when unhanded or fish equipped, and night vision which lets you see through stealthed enemies
>Ingame DPS meter>But not threat meterBut why? This is just gonna make dealing with retarded pumper DPS even more likely as a tank.
>>583855368They'll keep updating the game after it gets released, you know?
>with 219 +healingIt has never been more over
Is this a decent feral dps build for all-purpose pve and pvp?
already an active thread here>>583826518
>>583855187>>583855294
>>583855481>spammer autist threadnah
>>583855481Nah, that one is tasteless.
>>583855425its probably safe to assume everything the devs do will make it worse, the best state of the game is right now
>>583855425You can see your threat % on the mob tooltip bottom right
>>583855457>pvp feral>no Brutal Impact
>>583855089>>583855142>>583855162>>583855186These are anons that keep thread splittingBut had no problem letting this thread sit without a new bake till it almost fell off the board or purposely baked this general with their sexual fetishes even when people protestedSHAME ON YOU
>>583855368True. It's a shame that the game is shipping in a totally finalized state in 4 weeks, and there will never be any changes to it after that.
>Sky Elves aren't just playable HarpiesBETRAYED
Fuck that other thread, if you want to spam anti tranny stuff at least go through the effort of making multiple images.
is there anything suggesting rogue will be high dps? they have by far the least buffed talents.
>>583855481kill yourself
>>583855442>penance slightly overtuned at lvl 30>50% DAMAGE NERF>50% HEALING NERF>50% MANA INCREASEwtf is wrong with these devs?
>>583855762It was not "slightly" overtuned
>>583855708aggrend said rogue will have the highest single-target DPS at level 60
Its amazing how you can automatically spot a retoilet shitter by if they're using the Foxtail haircut
>>583855708the developers themselves?
>>583855762just wait until you see riptide.
6 fucking wowfg threads on the board right now
>>583855528>>583855545>>583855742uh oh tranny's gonna freak
>>583855762>blizzard when they see priest is using something other than wands to kill mobs
>>583855708I believe they're getting some Zed deathmark-esque talent that will probably boost their single target dps a lot
>>583855636>Meanwhile, in the heckin on-topic thread
everyone is welcome
>>583855663Harpies are too kino for blizz
Is this many buffs in the spirit of classic?
Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza gives its top 50 a title!
>>583856052Ironically, yes.
>>583855762Streamers complained because of the 1v1 tourny + aggrend wants hpal to be the best tank healer. Disc will exist to cast PI and do nothing else
>>583856129wasn't there a 32-buff limit?
31 pt Paladin talentZealous Believer>Your Seals and Judgements can no longer be dispelled.>Your Judgement gains 5 yards range.>Seal of Wisdom's judgement now slows the casting speed of the target by 50% for 15 seconds. Your hits refresh the duration of this effect.>Seal of Lights judgement now reduces the effects of healing on the target by 50% for 15 seconds. Your hits refresh the duration of this effect.>Seal of Justice judgement now slows the target's movement speed by 50% for 15 seconds. Your swings refresh the duration of this effect. >Seal of the Crusader's judgement now interrupts the target's spell casting and stops them from casting magic of the same school for 4 seconds.>Seal of Command and Righteous now deal additional on swing damage and judgement damage.Make it happen Aggrend.
Nelf girls
>>583856027>Mulgore leveling as Tauren pov
>>583856052https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nqjz5R8LrU
>>583856185>aggrend wants hpal to be the best tank healeralways was
>>583856027It's not fair.
>>583855663Very sus noses
>>583856018Something had to give with all the people crying about Alliance bias.
>>583855762>literally fills an entire health bar from one cast>slightly overtunedYou faggots are just as bad btw
>>583855425retoilet has no threat so they dont have a meter for that
>>583856285It's level 30 faggot. You don't know how good it will be at 60.
>>583856209Thank God you aren't a game designer.
>>583856285So does every other fucking healing spell at lvl 30 with stacked healing power
Why did they fucking do it, forever-bros? Why did Blizzard taka a giant shit on a unique playstyle?
>>583856004that's you samefaggingyou want to keep that thread bumpedas some kind of gotcha, you're a mentally ill control freakif it wasn't for you the legitimate bakes you purposely thread split from would have fallen off the board and you'd have even less of a reason for your power tripping sperg out
>>583856352So you think because it might not be an entire health bar at 60 that means it should still heal everyone to full from a single cast at lower levels? Should mages one-tap everyone at all levels except 60 too? What is this retarded argument
>>583856392not for how little mana it cost, but it is unique for being a channeled heal
>>583855708no because they are the expose armor cuck after aggrend makes sure warrior is so bad there are 0 in the raid
>>583856209>alliance>trannymakes sense.
>>583856392*kicks you*
>>583856352suppose it is garbage at 60 now, do you think they are just going to leave it that way? what if they buff it. huh? what then? did you ever think of that you little pea brain? huh?
>>583856479then increase the mana cost and leave the rest of the spell alone? there was no reason to go full nuclear on this.
>>583856375Why? They gave all this same shit to hunters and they deal more damage than a paladin from 402 yards away lol
>>583856114lasts for the week, if you want to keep it, need to win it again the next week
melty alert
>>583855201Logging off works?
>>583856553Can they use all of that at once?
>>583856276Reminder that Horde got 0 QoL travel paths like Alliance did with ships.At least give me a zeppelin to badlands which unlocks when you first get there...
>>583856525it could still have been overtuned, just ported and never testedI'm actually a priest player and I'll take this if they boost some damn holy damage
>>583856518if it's good at 60 then pvp players will cry about it again until its nerfed. They will probably cry about PoM and get that nerfed too
>>583856454the numbers were retarded. that's still good and it wouldn't surprise me if it gets nerfed again.
>>583856608Paladins can only have 1 active judgement at a time on a target.
>>583856616Have you considered the fact that they didn't because horde always had the better flight paths and travel from the start? You get a literal teleport to gnomeregan as well so not even the so-called alliance dungeons are difficult to get to
Reminder that anyone that has a female model character is a troon
>>583856596Then you get a debuff that lasts 3 days /played
>>583856675>if they boost some damn holy damageToo bad because the devs said in a recent interview that smite priest was the best dps at 60 so they had to nerf it.
>>583856285All that tells me is that it's going to overheal a LOT
>>583856454because a druid with thorns or pala with retard aura were topping meters
>>583856747>I HATE LOOKING AT CUTE GIRLS!! I'M GAY!!
>Lurking for a guild in the official NA 'cord>Recognize a lot of guilds from MoP>Most of them got filtered by paragons
>>583856616>horde have better flight paths>horde have better taxi paths>horde have better citiy positions>alliance get a couple new boat paths to help alleviate this>REEEE ITS NOT FAIR FOR US MUDHUTTERS
I'll be healing your party
Fuck harpies
>>583856454They want you to play warrior
>>583855201>how does this plan failhe'll find you eventually
>>583856818Looking at girl models in game doesn't get you off when you know a man is the person behind it troon.
>>583856893based
>>583854983join us friends. we're starting a raiding guild. horde. 20m, raid times TBD.<Remigration>https://discord.gg/53SAJSDjVthreadposter, can we get an inclusion?
>>583856894Don't harpies breed by capturing male travelers and raping them?
>>583855517excellent, then she meets blue skelf and mogs her with her huge badonkahoos
>>583856616i fucking love running through the entire stranglethorn vale to get to my quest hub or alternatively running through like 60% of duskwood from darkshireand dont get me started on getting to zul gurub it is better to run on a mount from stormwind because the flight options are so bad
>>583856894That's the plan, yeah.
>>583856893built for knots
>>583856946if a female character was drawn by a man it makes you gay to jerk off to it btw
>increase smite and penance base damage>make spellpower scaling abysmal>???>good balance
>>583856894Sounds good to me
>>583856991No, fuck yourself discordnigger
>>583857015No it doesn't troon.
>>583856991>another guild with a retarded name that'll make some GM have a meltywhats the point?
>>583857057you know what to do next.have her riding him from that perspective
>>583857087yes it does, you're jerking off to a character made by a man. sorry cuckie
>the obnoxious healer meta on retail is one of the main reasons no one likes to PvP anymore>people want the same on ForeverYou have no idea what you ask for
>>583856893You hearing my pahty? Herro pretty rady
I'm thinking Troll Warlock for Horde and Dwarf Shaman for Alliance
>>583856991><Remigration>b-b-b-b-b-based
Various Dungeon Quest Rewards have had their rarity lowered to Uncommon from Rare. Stats have been updated to reflect the change in rarity.
>>583857015False equivalency. You are a tranny that is a man that is pretending to be a woman and want you to get sexually stimulated by the larp. Straight men who draw hot women for you to jack off too just want to put content out there in the world for other straight people to enjoy. Nice try though abomination.
>>583856616Reminder that alliance cant fly from ratchet to Astranaar if they have the two flight paths, they have to run to Azshara and grab that one first until they connect
>>583856616Thats because Horde travel was already a breeze in vanilla. Way better questing, and it was trivial to get to TB compared to Teldrassil.
>>583856894god yes>>583857057I like the energy but way too fat, harpies should be lithe like the first picture
why cant I get boys to play with me
>>583857017penance did not get any sort of damage increase
>>583857373have they changed any of the classic ones? or just the previously busted new ones?
>>583857493your festering axe wound drives them away
>>583857493Because you're a tranny and people think trannies are mentally ill freaks
>>583857464Perhaps it was a matriarch
>>583857563but I don't have bottom dysphoria and im 7 inches
>>583857493quick schizo-kun bake another thread
>Perched invisible on the cliffHope you weren’t planning on walking by anon
>>583855762it was mega overtuned
check em
>>583857392sorry bud
>>583857373>extra misskeked
>>583857669>tfw you work for Al's Toy Barn.
What is wrong with you retards?
when are they adding body type 3
>>583857670You can try to pretend that I'm the one who is blind here but the reality is that you're the one that is a man trying to be a woman and that the majority of civilization thinks you're a mentally ill retard, because you are.
>>583857778Keeping troons out, obviously
creepy as fuck tranny raidcreepy as fuck avatarfaggot spamming it's ugly slopcreepy as fucking faggot pedo postingand this shit goes on all fucking day long and these faggots have the gall to call anyone else a schizo or mentally ill for calling it outthey literally kill all conversation in this place for attention and i guess to humiliate themselves your ritual posting is fucking cringerules for thee but not for your faggot asses huh, delusional losers
>>583857798>brappp youre a tranny youre a tranny!I'm a fat mexican man with a 5 inch penis. I know my place as a man.
>>583857778>Whats wrong with you retards?Whats wrong with the schizo constantly trying to spam the same op image every thread so he can spam about trannies for the entire thread*
>>583857373Are there any classes that get a benefit from missing an attack?
Warriors are hybrids
>>583856991>threadposter, can we get an inclusion?PVE? PVP? NA? EU? Horde? Alliance? you not mentionning any means you are too retarded to be in OP, please submit application again linking a picture of you in-game with a friend next to you
https://www.twitch.tv/warcrafthttps://www.twitch.tv/warcrafthttps://www.twitch.tv/warcraftholly and clay presentation about Forever at PAX starting soon
>>583857918Yet you keep on defending trannies and you're brown as shit. What a life.
>>583855663That would've been cool! Total tranny genocide. I want all of them executed.
If I see a shaman or warlock while levelingI WILL be nice to youI WILL invite you to my dungeonsAnd hopefully you'll remember me when we are 60 and join my raidt. human warrior
>tfw I will never get to lick this up and down in a hidden section of stormwind library
>>583857493PvE? My big strong tauren will protect you.
>>583857392So when an artist draws a girl that you can jack off to it's okay, but if a publisher distributes that drawing it's gay and trans.
>>583858068thanks bro
>>583858034Ain't nobody got time for that shit, I'll just ask AI to give me a summary of what was said later
Mages and rogues should have the most damage
you faggot ritual posters can dish it out but look at you crying about an op pic being used, you didn't think it was bad when the blue tranny was spamming the same op imageyou can dish it but you sure can't take itlook at how your whine when you get your own medicine thrown back in your faceyoure faggot bitches and extreme hypocrites, that's why people always come to the same conclusion about you in real life, you're fucking clowns, you're a bunch of jokes to anyone you come in contact withthe sum of your life is going to be making a video game worse lol
>>583856285it healed for 750 that is not a ful health bar
>>583858232And also hunters and warlocks.
>>583858232Hey man, I've noticed you're casting frost bolt despite our rogue still having a curse on him, can you decurse him please? Make me some water also, that would be terrific
>>583855330actually the only good classes being warrior priest mage is more balanced than forever which lets you use other classes too
>>583858204You are purposely trying to ignore the things presented in the argument. There was a clear division stated. It also doesn't fool anyone. You're a mentally ill troon.
>>583845664STOP LAUGHING YOU BASTARD.IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR.FUCK.
ogres are impossible to add because they'd have to remodel 95% of the buildings and zones in the game to accommodate ogres
>>583858412Uhh no?
>>583858232Highest dps per targetRogues = highest single target dpsWarrior = highest 1-3 enemies cleave dpsMages = highest 4+ enemies AOE dpsThis is how it should work
>>583858528noggenfoggers exist, just tell them to suck it up until lv45
>>583858721Mage niggers get the rope though
>>583858528Still happens to tauren sometimes but they can just clip inside
>>583856991nonserious meme guild. will not be added to the top.
Highest dps per targetFeral druid = highest single target dpsBalance druid= highest 1-3 enemies cleave dpsBalance druid = highest 4+ enemies AOE dps
>>583858435yeah no worries, ez
orc rogue sounds really coolbut my characters would be like 90% orcs
Deathwing is still alive in wow forever. Id like to see the plot with him go a bit differently than his cataclysm counterpart. instead of maybe going full retard disney villain. he can be more devious like his son and daughter are.
>>583858528tauren
When the fuck are the people who opted in for the beta getting their key
>>583858931Whats wrong with that?
>>583859043Never. The beta is way too successful for them to send out free keys
nice beta retards
>>583858232Hunters will do the most damage
if my red haired sweetheart is here and reading this, let's play together sweetheart. We can level Elves together.
>>583858528If a tauren can fit, an ogre can fit
>>583858528People think ogres are all the dire maul mob size but the smallest ogre npcs (which are half of them since they're a bunch of mooks in low level zones) in the game are like a foot taller than tauren
>>583859043Probably the last week to stress test the servers
>>583857610sorry, but I only play with cute boys who are smaller than 4 inches and preferably in a chastity cage locked and controlled by me.
>>583859150melee or marksman?
>>583859081durotar
>>583859043>>583859308yeah the last week to see how many million they can get
What do I do for another 27 days?
>>583858965Same with the Lich King if we ever see him. He legit had 50 IQ in WOTLK.
>>583859440I dunno, I'm also done with the betadone everything I care to do
>>583858721nah, warriors shouldn't be outdpsing pure dps
can i play forever as a casual player?no raids and probably a dungeon per month
>>583859440fill out job applications
>>583854983Besides nostalgiabait, why make the permanent level cap 60 and not 100?
>>583859582yes
>>583859694why 100
>>583859582what would be stopping you
>>583859413mulgore and tirisfal are a 5 minute walk away
>>583859043Why would they give you something free they could potentially get you to pay for? They probably only gave like 10 people free keys.
>>583859582it's a casual game in difficulty but its a time sink, it will distract you from your other activities
>>583859394Yes
>>583859582Why wouldn't you be able to do this?Are you asking moreso if this would be a fun way to play?
>>583858229i unironically do this for the podcasts becuase i cant stand looking at streamers
>>583856209>human paladin>trannyIt's like clockwork.
Do you think mining/herb is gonna be a big trap for trying to get ahead of that early game bottleneck? I'm not trying to super speedrun or anything but I do want to try my best to avoid the 10-30 shitfest that exists before people stop playing and I worry that spending 45 minutes (which is fun don't get me wrong) here and there mining nodes is going to compound and I'd have been better served just questing.
>>583859694Because that would involve even more work to revamp the talent trees.
>blizzard nerfing og vanilla items like outlaw sabre and thrash blade making them green?
Can't decide between mage and warlock for pvp. Anyone who played both have on opinion of which is more fun?
>>583859508Ranged shouldn't out dps melee.
>>583859787They probably already sold all the beta access they are going to sell
>dalaran>silverpine>dalaran>silerpine>alterac mountains>dalaran>silverpineHoly shit running to the new dalaran dungeon is a phasing nightmare
why remove bag sorting?
>from 20 to 5raped
>>583859303armor would never fit on fucking ogres
>>583860009All the streamers play mage which means it'll always be strong
>>583860031Hybrid melee is fine though
Will WoW Forever be for me?I started right before WoD and quit around Castle Nathria. Might sound like little time to the people who have been playing since Vanilla but I played a metric shit ton. Legion was my favorite expansion and IMO WoW's peak.I don't like modern WoW, but Vanilla is not my thing either.
>>583859582yes. you'll probably have more fun that way too.
>>583860031shush now, hybrid, grownups are talking
>>583859582>he thinks he's ever getting invited to anythingDon't worry about getting invited to raid because they won't even take you for BRD runsThey'll fucking kill you
>>583860009mage is the hero class with the most streamer crybabies who will bully the devs to remain OP as fuck
>>583856209They hate you, because you're a genius. Brilliant capstone talent. Turns all the shit into great spells. We're not trying to balance around pvp either, only raids, so it's perfectly fair.
>>583860049Still no point giving something away for free. They may do it for the final week as a stress test.
>>583860132>Legion was my favorite expansion and IMO WoW's peak.>Vanilla is not my thingIt's not for you
>get jumped by rogue>ebb and flow of rogue going through all his bullshit myriad cooldowns trying to kill me vs me trying to stabilize (if it were tbc or later expansion I would be already dead cause in each expansion more bullshit I-Win buttons are added to rogue)>rogue blows most of his cooldowns but I'm still alive>rogue decides to finish the fight (he has the option to safely disengage at almost any point during any fight, he just for whatever reason decides not to this time)>finally in a position where I can get a cast off and he doesn't have yet another bullshit cooldown to nullify it>the frostbolt+fireblast combo/aimed shot/mind blast unexpectedly crit as he's running towards me and he unceremoniously drops deadI think I'm starting to appreciate rogue pvp cause wins feel earned.
>>583858528>actually there was a secret tribe of small ogres (tauren-sized) that live in [instanced zone] that would love to join both the alliance and hordeyou forget that modern blizzard has shown they aren't afraid to just make shit up
>how do you do fellow ___why are ((( goblins ))) like this?
What if Blizzard released a Meal Deal for each Class? Themed after each class?
>>583860070FUCK
>>583860009Mage obviously. Blizzard PvP game design is kiting = skill o algo.
>legion babby >posting tranei Yeah it’s not for you.
>>583860009Mages have multiple big time pvp streamers and warlock has literally 0That should answer your question
why does thrall wield the doomhammer when its not a shaman weapon so it does nothing for his spell casting
Necromancer is gonna be a real class
Opt-in bros what's your status?
>>583860550Hes aura farming
Are there even any priestfag streamers
>>583860550>never played WC3 lol
>>583860576Unlikely
>You can visit Dalaran and things are rebuilding and mostly normal>But if you enter through the sewers its a total shithole overrun with elementals and necromancersim confused how does this make sense
Where are you sitting post gear nerf?
So are rogues good now?
>>583858528I think Ogres just don't make for a good race.Same with the "tinker" class that always gets mentioned or "bard", feels like trying to take stuff from another generic rpg and shoehorning it into wow
Playing Warcraft having never even seen its core cinematics….lolHere you go retoilets. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-YMR6l7h4g&ra=m
BRING BACK THE BAG SORTING BUTTONWTF
>>583860731That's just what sewers are like.
Surprised no one has had a meltie over hold-to-cast
>>583860809Ok this is bait.
>>583860840wasnt in vanilla
>>583860783SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>583860576I want that hood.
>>583860483seething over draebaes is sooo pathetic
>>583860840they've gotta completely fix the bags
>>583860942FUCK YOU it was a good feature there is NO reason to remove it
>>583860132be a better ritual poster and stay in /wowg/, sis
>>583861073do you want lfr and welfare epics and mythic+ and gdkp too???
>>583860840just use bagnon
I leveled>enh shaman>rogue>warrior>warlock>priest>hunterim going hunter on launch and lowkirkenuinely it's not close. with actual balance patches now you won't pay the tax of being mid in endgame content for the tradeoff of an insanely OP leveling experience. you can now have your cake and eat it too. orc and human both have access. they also have one of the coolest new tier sets.
>>583861148asking a question in two generals is not ritualposting, retard-kun
>>583861029Where's the full?
>>583861170>>583861172FUCK YOUnobody was complaining about itwhy remove it?
>>583861230If I didnt recentlyish get a hunter to 70 in tbc I might have considered but its too early for me to run that backI'm thinking warlock or shaman, though rogue is a dark horse
>>583861230what makes hunters good in endgame now?
>>583861487>actual balance patches
>>583861379danbooru draenei
>>583861232you're the only one that spams draenei and uses that slangyou're creepy as fuckyou're offtopic posting a race not even in this version of the game and you get cunty about it trying to focre it into this versionyou're the fucking retardspace goats were a mistaken just like skyborneyou just keep stalking these generals trying to make the game as bad as possible
>>583861230>orc and human both have access.what?
>>583861230I was going to go hunter but it's looking like it will be the most played class by far so i'll have to pass.
>open video from x class main>endless bitching about how their class is going to suck compared to everything elseKill all youtubers
>>583860731I believe the intent is that you do the dungeon before you go to the city.
>>583860786>Gained Cheap shot, Kidney shot, Vanish, Deadly poison>Can talent up to Preparation, Blade flurry or Mutilate and Cold bloodYes they are much better
>>583861558Hot
>>583861487They scale now (pet or no pet)
damn Alliance is so kino
>>583860331take me back
>>583860096>>583860175>>583860434>>583860531are you fags illiterate? i said fun not which one is played by your favorite streamer
>people's characters are currently getting bricked by infinite loading screens when entering/exiting the deeprun tramBravo, Blizzard
I pity people who care about PvP, not because I think they are sad but because its another vector to consider when choosing a class. I never cared about PvP but will get competent enough on any class I genuinely enjoy. The amount of people saying they refuse to play lock on alliance because of horde radicals is some mental cage shit.
why does it feel good when im playing a female character and people call me a girl
>>583862217Winning is the fun part thoughbeit.
what do i play if i dont want to be a basic bitch but still get raid spots
>>583861569man im sorry i triggered your rabid schizophrenia i hope you get well sooni am not whoever you think i might be
>>583862320>thoughbeit
How popular do you guys think undead paladins are going to be at launch?
>>583862414whats crazy is that I look like that
>>583862354Shaman is both the shoto all-rounder of this game and the most needed class in raid
>>583862217The two aren't mutually exclusive anymore. The devs now have weird parasocial relationships with streamers and vice versa. Big streamers advocate for their class. Hence those classes will always get preferential treatment.
>>583862218I literally took a gryphon to ironforge to avoid this but I keep getting booted to the login screen as soon as the gryphon enters the great forge area. When I log back in I'm flying over searing gorge again and the process repeats. I'm literally trapped on the flight path
>>583862427there's going to be hundreds of thousands
>>583862245People who think like that were never going to pick warlock, etc. regardless. The fact is that they're metaslaves in denial. The correct choice is to simply play the class that you want regardless of how good or bad it is. If you truly like the class, you'll have fun trying to overcome the unique challenges that is faces - or appreciate the advantages it enjoys.t. druidfag
>>583862245The racials are not even enough to stand up to warlocks. It’s just a head cannon that alliance players have. >omg he’s going to break my fear (which I could cast again) >omg he’s going to remove my curse (which is instant cast) Alliance players in general tend to be massive whiners. They complain about everything even though they are blizzards favorite faction and always have been.
>>583862414you're mentally ill and need to be medicated and locked up...Foreveryou're creepy
you know what forever is really missingthats rightbig fat futa draenei horsecock
>>583862245>lock takes the longest to reach a playable state after death>the two most popular enemy races have abilities that directly counter youPeople are just reacting rationally.
>>583862354Dwarf shaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOCLaOHXhtEWell there it is. Pack it up boys.
>>583862245It seems more accurate to say Warlock players on the PvP realm are deciding to play Horde.
>>583862725it's uphttps://files.catbox.moe/lykzp2.mp4
Why the fuck did they nerf thorns? The one thing about druids that seemed strong
>>583862725Refute this, /wowfg/. I'll wait
there are 5 /wowfg/s on the catty
>>583863047yeah because some shartnig keeps troll baking.
>>583862673arent there a ton of those already?
>>583862978Forever has more content at launch than Turtle had in its first three years.
guys. There's a new intro sequence when starting the game. It's very esoteric.
>>583863191Multi billion dollar company
>>583860840Mine is still there
what does it mean when guild members call me an egg
>>583863216Oh it's the cinematic. Sweet. Extremely Esoteric.
>>583863217Yes, which allows them to develop content faster and with more polish than Turtle. They're adding at least three more raids, four more dungeons and one new zone in 2027 alone.
>Melee HunterI want a hunter spec that dynamically moves in and out of range to use their entire kit at once. Melee hunters are just gimped mana using warriors.Is there a petless talent that's early enough to spec into from any spec too? Petless hunter would be a fun hardcore challenge.
>Gives casters a mental breakdown
they made outlaw sabre green and shitdoa shit game
>>583863290you smell like sulfur
>>583863471rightfully so that is completely bullshit
>>583863047schizo keeps trying to spam his op image over and over, and hes having a melty about it in this thread>>583863419I think lone wolf is the only petless option
>>583863419That’s how survival is supposed to be played. You can grab lone wolf early in the marksman tree.
>>583863191>>583863368Don't bother trying to communicate with it, lol
>>583863368This depends on if they're graphicsfagging and making everything look like retail or if they're using vanilla's artstyle and fidelity with modern resources. They could just have a lot of shit banked and be delivering ugly retail shit once every 6 months once they run out.
okay this made me laugh ngl
>>583863636soul
>>583863636There will be spergs that try to get this as high as possible.
>>583862978Turtle wow banned bots and rmt. Blizzard wont even do it in a fucking beta
>>583863628It would be easier to release rehashed classic assets than making entirely new retail stuff. You could take that big-ass mine in Mulgore, recolor it green and call it a dungeon, Turtlefags would eat it up.
>>583863290it means they are trying to hatch you into a tranny
>>583863751>Turtle wow banned bots and rmt.HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>583863751
>>583863047thread splitters can dish it but can't take it, they were perfectly fine spamming the blue tranny or their sexual fetish as the OP pic in the bake but now they cry foul, pathetic cowardly hypocrites that even refused to bake because they hate this place so much they'd rather see it fall off the board>>583863127>>583863524don't ever call someone schizo or mentally ill when you've been the textbook definition of it the way you've been acting the last 18 days
>>583863872They did.>>583863950Change it to infinity billion, no one believes this shit.
>>583863950They told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears.
Legacy points seem OpAnd too easy to respec
>>583863950i was going to say there is no way that many people bought gold on a beta but then i remembered how fucking stupid people are
>>583864073>And too easy to respectdo you even know what you're talking about
>>583864073It’s only cheap to reset them for the beta
heres your ogre raid bosses
>>583863584>>583863524So you'd run something like this?
>>583864138>>583864159whats the cost to respec them going to be like on release (if we know yet)
>>583864167Aren't the TBC super ogres supposed to only be in Outland, because they're servants of Gruul?
>>583864256Looks fine to meYou can even do that hardcore challenge soon enough because they'll be adding a hardcore server to Forever
>>583864337same as classic, they reduced it for the beta.
>>5838641362,100+ gamer dads thought that they could carry over their beta characters to the main launch.
>he thinks he has a chance beating sl/sl in pvp
>>583864453>same as classic>legacy points
>>583864340he's a super ogre who walked through the dark portal during warcraft 1
>>583864453I think he was asking about legacy
>>583862245>play on pvp server>most of the time in game is spent in the open world where pvp can happen at any moment>blizzard changes something that makes your loss rate against an opponent 100%Of course people care about pvp. It's the only real emdgame. Ignoring it is an absolute mistake by blizzard. It will be the most complained about thing at 60.
>>583864256Did you mean to take Pathfinding instead of Focused Fire?
>>583864517warlock chads run this game
What do (you) think about neutral player hubs?
>>583864614Why would they do that when Gruul and his gang weren't involved at all in Gul'dan's business?
is it possible to make an HD gnome not look fucking horrible
>>583862245who tf thinks like that?Its not like we refuse to dual ud because wotf or some shit.
>>583864256Something close to that yeah. I’d probably trade efficiency for careful aim. Focus fire does nothing without a pet. HP is better than parry for PVE.
>>583864745Rather not have them, as the main central hub at leastI like having faction capitals
>this fucker walks up and slaps your wife's asswhat do?
>full set bonus>you can now use recklessness ever 29min30 seconds instead of every 30 minutes>https://www.wowhead.com/forever/guide/season-1-tier-set-bonus-appearance-overview#warlocktier-set-bonusesI hope whomever designed this is hit by a bus on their way to the office tomorrow.
>>583864757>>583864614he fell into a vat of fel crap in felwood or something and came out dumber
>>583864898Nah, cmonIt needs to be +daggers
>>583864517>>583864667>>583864884>does 0 damage with dots and gets burst down by literally every class
Bro im trying to get group for sfk and Ive sent like 30 whispers at this point. Youd think Im trying to apply for mythic raiding with how hard its been to just get a single group
>>583864782I hope not.
>>583864898Soul is back on the menu
>>583855365make her tits bigger
>>583864745I love Gadgetzan and Booty Bay on PvP servers. Feels like fireworks are ready to blow at any moment.Sanctuaries are gay.
>>583864898they made fun of this set bonus in their podcast a week ago because it was still left in from back when reck was a 5 minute cooldown. all of these set bonuses will get reworked
>>583864614he was always here but we never looked up
>>583865000dots can crit now lil gup>bursting down warlock when they're high stam, 38% flat damage resistance, healthstone, drainlife+siphon life, and two vw bubblesLMAO
>>583865008sfk always seems like a pain to get groups for feels like there not as many people questing there at any given time and most of those that are are underleveled for itI hardly ever ran it on classic, I cant imagine forever will be different
>>583864884Shoot him from 50+ yards away
Druid or Paladin? I want to dungeon tank but I fully accept that come raid I'm gonna have to put on the dress.
>>583864782No, the HD gnome models are eternally fucked. Best you can do is beardcope, but they don't have the best beardcope (the curverd beard) in forever.
>>583865073They're all so bad, and them there's rogue.>reduced kidney shot cooldown>reduced finisher energt cost>increased hit>increased humanoid damage
>>583864745I think having a place where you can attack someone and get raped by guards is fun and coolI don't like sanctuaries where I can't attack someone and get raped by guards
>>583865253I think my least favorite thing about the HD gnome model is that they all look like theyre about to break down and cry
>>583864782They look so bad. It's because of the hairs being all separated. I honestly just stick with SD.
>>583865338wouldnt you if you were them
>>583864884I feel like if you're going 31 demo then desto is better than affmolten skin/shadowburn/ruin goes hard
>>583864663>>583864851I forgotted even though that was the point of the build kek.I figured parry would be neat for counter attack spamming while leveling but I guess at cap for raiding you might not even take counter attack and deterrence. Looking closer it seems like counter attack's damage is pretty shit so it might not even be worth taking in any case outside of PVP.For careful aim, I picked the other one because I don't know how much int is on endgame gear and mana costs had me seething in Turtle, with all the other cuts I could probably take 4 points in reduced mana cost too anyways.Damn I'm bad at theorycrafting but I was hoping I could one and done it.
is 121 ng/dl testosterone enough to play a healer or am I forced to play dps
>>583865219Paladin is passive. Nearly all the threat and damage comes from consecrate and retribution aura. Holystrike does almost nothing. If judgement didn't taunt, it would feel like nothing too. Their capstone talent is yet another press button, and wait to be hit ability. These "do damage when hit by things" abilities are really bad for single target raid boss tanking. A paladin right now will lose threat between every use of judgement on a slow attacking single target late game. I do not think that an extra seal proc off reckoning is going to be enough.>They nerfed righteous fury threat.>They nerfed mana regen threat.>They nerfed retribution aura damage.Now everyone is crying they can't hold aggro on anything anymore.
>>583865338You would too if the plot point of taking back your city that started 16 years ago was abandoned 16 years ago and you've never been in any of the cinematics and they tried to replace you with this thing.
>>583865572>>583865415Fair enough
>>583865572I hope diaper gnomes never come to forever
i can't believe we're not going to have bg queues in the world
>>583865520>Now everyone is crying they can't hold aggro on anything anymore.i was wondering what was going on when i did a dungeon today, every hunter and shaman was ripping threat, even the cat druid and you cant regain it because you only have 1 taunt, 2 with a cd
>>583865572t-the mekkatorque fight was pretty good...
>>583865520My main feeling on paladin is that it looks clunky as shit still but with weird itemization they might end up getting carried by having access to fucked up holy damage/spell power plate/weapons.
>>583860279everything is made up dude. none of this shit is real>>583860809tinker would have been a race if goblins came out in 2020. ogres are bad just because they can't just resize armor to fit them. every single piece has to be redone for their retarded looking bodies. which is too much work. also playing as canonical retards doesn't make sense either.
>>583865708shaman always rips threat, no matter what class is tanking
>>583865338I'd be sad too if 80%+ of my race died in a radioactive fart cloud and the survivors have been living in a dwarven ghetto ever since.
>The Horde being able to enter Dalaran safely is somehow a bugsmall Indian company
>>583865572I always wondered why people called them diaper gnomesMan ignorance really was bliss
>>583865418and you can get conflag with 3 points to spare in imp corruption. sac felhunter and you get 3% total hp every 4 seconds, pretty nuts
>>583863950im not banned for what its worth, richfag with +1kg on a characater right now, all boght
>>583865572would have been so fucking cool if gnomeregan was redesigned into a raid with a new layout and everything
>>583865893it was manageable before the change now you cant even judge anything on a pull that isnt fury or you will immediately lose threat
Wow forever will be kinoChuds wonNate Higger rest in peace
what does it mean when guildies call me a stupid puppygirl
>every random video i click on is sponsored by restedXPI don't get it. How powerful are they?
>>583856018this honestly fucking sucks. I was expecting horde to get their own version like an earthen ring hub that was hostile to alliance with its own little story.the kirin tor being cool with the horde at this point in the story makes absolutely ZERO fucking sense as they are a breakaway faction of arathi humans that are still very much part of the alliance. it took an apocalyptic threat of the lich king for them to allow the sunreavers back into the city. now they are fine with random shitters because they killed a level 30 5 man dungeon mob?they keep saying one thing and then do another. this feels nothing like vanilla and kills a big part of faction flavor that they could have introduced into the game
blizzard is fucking gay can they just hire some russian or britbong to run this shitshow
I want an autistic peach skelf GF
>>583865659Remember what they took from you.
>>583866135nah they're getting kicked out again
>>583866135the kirin tor have members of every race
>>583865865>none of this shit is realincorrect, wow has 3 RTS games and a cancelled adventure game full of lore to pull from
>>583866270Nu-loreshit In wc3 it was humans and elves exclusively
>>583866257can they hire anyone with a spine in place of this fatass? he couldn't balance SoD for shit and now he is clueless as fuck in forever.
>>583866270
>>583865716It's clunky as fuck.>it can't generate single target threat.>it requires that it is being hit to regen mana and deal damage.>Taunt is tied up on your only single target damage abilityIt's going to suck ass at 60 in raids unless they give it a real capstone ability that does active damage to the target. The itemization on it is fucked too, it needs too many stats to work. Warrior and deuid only need str, agi, stamina, defense, and hit. Paladin needs all of that plus spell power, crit, and intellect.
>>583856616Guaranteed replies.>>583856998Travel to ZG was so fucking bad that alliance players broke the rules of the game to get into ZG constantly.
>>583866341bro your meds. it's fantasy. it's not real. it was all made up by a guy, chris metzen, who they still consult.
>>583866270im not looking it up. what are the vulpera and how are they justified as being a thing now
the new dungeon in dalaran is depressingi hope the rest arent empty and uncanny as this one
>>583866582Fox niggas that live in a desert on Troll Wakanda and fight with Cobra niggas that literally every player wanted instead.
>>583866447I still maintain there's probably something that'll fall through the cracks that's broken but the changes today to thorns/ret really reads like they're so terrified of creating warriors 2.0 that they're just going to loop back around to warriors being the only relevant tank again.
>nerf mob exp in dungeons>nerf quest exp in dungeons>nerf dungeon drops>nerf old iconic quest items>fucking with balance every week20 days until launch
>>583866652thatll be 60 bucks plus tip goy
>>583864667You’re right little buddy now hurry up and summon the raid. We are all waiting in town while you farm shards.
Genocide all demons (including Draenei)
>>583866120Insanely powerful. Like every third guy leveling on classic/tbc paid for their add-on. Which puts all the journeyfagging in these threads into perspective.
>>583866257I could see them having it so that the Horde can only access the sewers, the troll Geffon the Unruly lives there and all the NPCs down there are associated with the goblin factions.
>>583866903>Like every third guy leveling on classic/tbc paid for their add-on.buy an ad you stupid jew
>>583866426one day that will be you trying to get groceries and you won't find it funny anymore.
>>583866652this one is uniquely strange in that its literally just wotlk dalaran with some mobs tossed in with zero set dressing, it even has the same sound track. HOT and ROL were fine. wetlands excavation was alright even if it felt more like a retail delve than a proper dungeonthey have shown that they are capable of making good content with kara crypts from SOD
So is this just "WoW: Streamer edition" now?
>>583865000>does 0 damage with dotsThis retard is gonna get farmed lol
>>583866257this is good news. expanding dalaran/whatever earthen ring shit they have cooking up in the endgame are something im looking forward to
>>583867013why are you lashing out at me you stupid tranny?
>disc priest absolutely gutted, nerfed into the groundOK so I guess this game will be just as terrible as retail where your spec can go from playable to complete unviable trash in one balance patch
This place near Wetlands is reminding me of Corellia
>>583867190>suddenly
Forever needs personal lootthe only people who don't want personal loot are ninja looters
>>583867273shut up drama queen
>>583866120It's a crossover from the retail ecosystem where paid addons and guides are common. If you don't fight it, they will turn the game into retail. See a video creator sponsored by RestedXP? Name 'em and shame 'em.
I expected Dalaran to be the High Elf capital for when they were introduced, and Silvermoon would be the Blood Elf horde counterpart.Both would be their respective capitals "mage city".
What the fuck are you retards doing?
>>583865170Troll can regen with the VW bubble up too
>>583866120Theres a lot of guys with jobs, paychecks, and no family to spend them on that wanna blitz to lvl 60 just to raidlogIts insanity, but they'll easily fork over $50 for it
>>583867481It's one retard, an old thread and an accidental duplicate.
>>583867339What is that going to accomplish? They got the money and will just delete your comment.Only Blizzard can ban the paid addon shit but they got paid off too obviously.
>>583866120They make bank so they have a marketing budget to get shills and they're like the only relevant "product" that would bother to sponsor some guy whose video is "changes to feral druid in week 3 of the beta". It's also the only time they really need to get shills because this is the first time since era they're gonna see a surge in people wanting a leveling guide.
>>583867581Nah, tell people you know to unsubscribe from their channels and block them.
Predictions for the orc racial nerf?
>>583867339Retail players have to-pay for the expansions-pay for subscription-pay for mtx-pay for their addons-pay for guidesDamn.
>>583866893No
just pirated the new phantom pain cracked version, much better than playing lmaoever, the rogue #1 dps simulator
>>583866893yes
>>583867481still falseflagging, maybe you shouldn't have sperged out and thread split because you don't like being called out for your mental illnessyou were perfectly fine with spamming the blue elf tranny or your sexual fetish faggot shit for the op pic bakeHow many times are you going to seethe and spam this to try and pretend it wasn't you that did the thread splitting with your discord faggot brigadestop stalking this generalstop ritual postingand kill yourself
>>583867718They've been doing it since wrath at least, I recall paid addons that tell you what gear to get to maximize your gearscore being a thing back then for some fucking reason.
>>583863251well mine's fuckin gone
>>583867302The only people who want personal loot are ninja looters that are mad that over the past 20 years we've wizened up to letting them steal loot from the raid
>>583866893No, we should ensla- uh, i mean "subjugate" them, can't use that word anymore.
>he needs a guide to tell him to go elwynn -> hot -> westfall -> dm -> redridge -> excavation site -> duskwood where the beta guide ends
there's no way priest and mage are the least played classes on launch, right?
>>583867982it's going to be warlock and druid, as it was in original vanilla
>>583867302I don't want personal loot and I'. not a ninja looterI'm just an HR chud
You think you do...
>>583868148hr is literally ninja looting but everyone knowsHR/SR should be banned
>>583868278you literally agree to it. it's not my fault you're a retard that lets me take all the lootI also raid in an LC guild how did you know
>>583867273the game hasn't launched yet, but you are absolutely right that fatty reddit (aggrend) will wildly make changes with no rhyme or reason
Missed out on wow trend even though I’m in my mid 30s, want to get into wow forever though, best class/race to start out as?
>>583868486whatever looks coolest to you
>>583867039i would have been fine with it if it had some npcs, maybe a vendor and a an escort questnone of the people inside have an dialouge or explain how to open gates etcbut mostly it just feels empty, and half of the buildings are artificially walled off with portals
>>583868550Think death knight kinda cool ngl
me on the leftbest race/class for me?
>>583868383Stuff like this is why gnome players nowadays are identical to undead rogue players.
>>583868486whatever you want. /vg/ is not the game at large.
>>583868486There are a ton of youtube videos that give a quick summary of each classes vibe. You have to pick for yourself or you will never be happy with the choice.
>accidentally ended a cinematic immediately when launching the game todaywhat happened?
>>583868383I miss vanilla realm forums. It had constant drama and it was so good.
>>583866120I got banned from the classic reddit because I compared restedxp to gold buying due to being a p2w addon. Everyone is in on this shit, including the devs.
>>583868634Paladin or Mage (if you're a savant)
>>583868769It's the cinematic trailer. I don't see them doing another cinematic for Forever launch.
>>583868769
Is the troll heal significantly better than using bandages?
>>583868716samefagging or stupid enough to reply to a marketing bot
>>583868716Issue is, I get paralyzed by choice unfortunately because it’s so much information
>>583868889Not at all, it's worse. Its benefit is that you can use both.
I'm rolling rogue, Aggrend and friends have said they are #1 and will be #1 so I won't have to worry about future nerfs
>>583861073No. The nilla way is to download 100 addons for things that should be in the game.
>>583868915Then you're thinking about it wrong, since you won't understand the mechanics before playing anyway.Choose based on vibes.
>>583868889Yeah.
>>583866691>nerf quest exp in dungeons>nerf dungeon drops>nerf old iconic quest itemsBlame the classic autists, they bitched and whined for weeks about wanting these.
which addon used to show you the zone levels before blizz implemented it during cata (i think)?
>>583868892I don’t live in the thread, it’s ok to give people the benefit of the doubt
Is something wrong with the servers today? I'm getting 2k ms ping and everyone is teleporting everywhere
>>583869010>Ragnaroskilled in a cartel shooting...
>>583869057>cant play the game without a crutch.>ITS REQUIREDretire
JUST FUCKING ENABLE SHARED QUEST DROPS YOU RETARDED DEVS! THERE IS A REASON THIS WAS IMMEDIATELY CHANGED RIGHT AFTER VANILLA. NOBODY WANTS TO KILL A MILLION MOBS SO EVERYONE IN THE PARTY CAN FINISH 1 FUCKING QUEST.
>>583863636Didn’t know about this but I have a wave macro I press whenever I cross a friendly out in the world.
>>583865865>playing as canonical retards doesn't make sense eitherIt makes perfect sense for the playerbase. There should be an ogre tax where any player who does too many stupid things gets an irreversible ogre transmog.
>>583869118not with the way you typeshouldn't you be spending most of your time on /v/ doing damage controlor have they driven you off alreadyyou're not welcome here either
>>583856018>>583866135Apparently, this is a bug and the devs said they're going to fix it.>>583866270The Kirin Tor are NOT neutral. They're literally one of the founding kingdoms of the Alliance. Making the Kirin Tor neutral was some nulore bullshit based around wanting to make Dalaran a floating neutral capital city (that no one fucking wanted or asked for).And, apparently, Blizzard knows this because the reason why the High Order Skyborne join the Alliance is because they get friendly with the Kirin Tor and they've confirmed that the shit above is just a bug.
>>583869272submit it as feedback
>>583869308lol a bugis that what they're gonna call it every time a retail dev sneaks in more of it's shit
>>583868486Balance is pendulum swinging every week, we have no idea what will be good or bad. Just pick whatever class fantasy you like best and whatever race you like the look of
>>583869308>(that no one fucking wanted or asked for).good thing they didn't listen to the players because everyone loves dalaran
have fun running wailing caverns 10 times while i do quests in the updated openworld with pretty graphics and weather
>>583869308No you don't understand, we need "Save the Planet" neutral organization number 54 for players to grind rep for!
>>583868953I see Rogues running around and they look cool.Leather is just cool looking in this game.
Why did my items turn from blue to green?
>>583869306Yikes
>>583868625there aren't death knights in Foreverbut it sounds like you want to wear plate armor and use a big weaponWarrior
>>583869306Are you ok anon? Did you forget to take your meds today?
>>583869562Because you're still green, grasshopper.
>>583869235latin american realms didn't exist in classic, that's ragnaros-eu
Blizzard NEEDS to add hd models for Grizzled Slippers, NOW.
>>583869730so mad it hit that reddit double space right off the batdon't be mad at me, blame your handlers for such a shit script
have fun fighting for quest drops and waiting hours for a dungeon tank while I mindlessly grind mobs to 60 while listening to once in a lifetime on loop
>>583869264dawg it has nothing to do with skill or knowledge of mechanics or anything that adds to the experienceit's a button that sorts your 90 wolf assholes and tufts of pubic hair neatly so you don't have to go do it individually for each itemthere is zero downside to removing it, other people using it does not effect you, and it's a QoL feature that's so innocuous and makes sense that literally nobody was complaining about it or calling for it to be removedwanting the bag sorting button is not me calling for the game to be Retail for fucks sake>just use an addon for itSO THEN JUST LEAVE IT IN THE GAME IF WE'RE ALL USING IT ANYWAY
>warlock low level shadow bolt nerfedthe fuck? it was already doing less damage than a wand...
which healer should I play now that priest has been ruined?
>>583869916Warlock
>>583869857https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2894996326?t=07h16m52sprot warriors are the new mage
>>583869916stick with priest because they'll probably just change shit again
>>583869916computer, make her a femboy with an undersized bikini causing a nipslip
>>583869349I'm not a streamer so my feedback gets thrown in the trash.
>>583869890>NOOOO GIVE ME EASY MODE>ITS JUST QOL OK I CALLED IT QOL SO YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TO ME
>>583870021Wouldn't a femboy nipslip in an oversized bikini all the same?
What is this shit
>>583867031half of the obese in america is on welfare because they cant control their mcdonalds intake it makes no difference
Ok now that Penance is not worth the GCD, what spec are we using Priest bros, holy is altogether trash. I am going to use us PWS, dispel and mana burn bitches now, heal and flash heal are too bad to use
ritual posting startsguess what time it isit's troon time
>>583870076what the fuck is 'easy mode' about a sort-bag button?there is no skill involved in just moving shit around your bags you cock sucker
>>583870153you can leave any time you want
>>583869424Maybe, but them immediately saying that its just a bug and they'll fix it at least means that they'll bow to pressure when this shit is found (if it is indeed intentional)>>583869479>everyone loves dalaranYeah, everyone loved lag city home of the entire server population on a flying postage stamp.>>583869504Legitimately they should just make the Justice League or whatever and leave the faction organizations alone. Then you can have a Justice League: The Northrend Expedition and Justice League: Emerald Dream Expedition etc etc that is the neutral rep grind faction and make your other factions actually interesting instead of the same old shit. But they especially shouldn't murder the existing lore factions to turn them into the boring neutral guys. Fuck that.
>>5838700955/5 well rested, 5/5 talentedits stupid busted, I hope its removed
If you got the tome of dalaran from SFK you can summon a secret boss in the dalaran dungeon sewer.
>>583870197you could always stay on /wowg/ and stop seethe stalking this place
>>583870189>there's no skill in leveling, add the boost>there's no skill in gold farming, add the token
>>583869562Didn't put them in the fridge while you were away
>>583870231how is it busted? it doesnt give you extra talent points at 60 you just stop getting talent points at 55rested exp is also useless if you are playing the whole time
>Blizzard actually gutted penanceYou can always trust Blizz to immediately cave to PvP shitters.
Literal wtf here too, what a boring talent. If they didn't like reagents so much they could just remove them from the game.
>>583870354it gives you 5 talent points earlier, it warps the leveling process and makes it way easier
>>583870287where do you use the tome?
>>583870202I love that Dalaran was so laggy they couldn't put the Argent Tournament in Crystalsong like they intended, so they put it on the doorstep of Arthas's HQ and made him look like a dipshit.
>>583870347leveling and farming are actual gameplayinventory management is inventory managementNOBODY was complaining about the bag-sortingmost people already just use add-ons to do it anywayleave it in the gamenobody asked for it to be removed
>>583870368>healers, including priests, are still immortal in pvp>but now priests lost their damage spell for questingAstounding. I will not be leveling a priest on live now.
>>583870368I'm just fucking rerolling. I was already considering shaman or resto druid since they both have way more utility, mobility, and just as good healing, now it's not even close. Riptide and swiftmend now absolutely MOG priest. Disc and shadow are F tier worthless. Holy is decent if they don't nerf pom but they probably will.
>>583869272Some quest actually did in vanilla
Honor and Rep are the strongest legacy talents
>>583870562don't worry I'm sure they'll nerf shamans too no class will be good
>>583870491I waswe dont want casual retoliet shit in forever
>>583870458pretty much pointless with buffs being 1hr baseline anyway, and with raid sizes being smaller
kek metaniggers in absolute shamblesimagine the melties when they rebalance the classes few months after launch
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSogO9on3tAits so fucking over
>>583870674what part of manually moving trash items around in your bags are you taking pride in exactly?
>>583870471In this room. There will be a summoning circle in the dungeon.
>>583869272>THIS WAS IMMEDIATELY CHANGED RIGHT AFTER VANILLA.No it wasn't lol
>>583870494>still immortal in pvpNot if I have anything to say about it, AND I DO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcH14n2MrLI
>do dungeon as healer>warlock in my party is just killing himself down to like 20% health the entire dungeonThere's no way this dumb faggot thinks I'm going to spend mana to stop him from suiciding right? What a retarded fucking class. Never inviting warlocks again.
>>583870770It's weight. Friction. It's why bag upgrades feel important.Next you'll be asking for the mount collection and toy box.
>>583870774and what do i do with the tome, right click the circle or what
>>583870984idk some other guy in the group did it with the tome.
>>583870951I don't know about destro but affli and demo can heal themselves fine
>>583870951i dont heal locks unless between pulls and i have plenty o mana
>New rebalance>Dwarves are still stuck with dogshit racials while gnomes get everything and a bag of chips with a large sodaEspecially with the "we gave the dwarves the two old PvP racials, but then gave gnomes the best fucking PvP racial in the game" it almost feels spiteful.
>>583870897I kneel Crocoking
>>583871163>gnomes the best fucking PvP racial in the gameuhh which one is that? Escape artist still sucks and Eureka! got gutted to useless
>>583871163You would think blizzard would want a happy and thriving dwarf player population since they're so inconic to the game and have such a soulful city, guess not
>>583870971>It's weight. Friction. It's why bag upgrades feel important.You know what? Fine. You're right.
>>583870937How did this guy go from funny machinimas to this cringe grifting garbage?
>>583870951I mean you picked the janny role, what did you expect to be doing?
>>583871290AI still says gnome will be the best cloth classes with it's racials, they're nerfed but still miles above the rest the alliance has to offer, rightcan't imagine it's going to be fun trying to track down a miniaturized gnome priest
>>583870951Healers with HoTs can heal warlocks. I'm not interrupting my regen to slow cast a heal on him.t. shaman
>>583860783>soulsplatterWasn't magram rewards supposed to be gatekept behind level 35? Did they just change the quest without changing the requirement to equip?
>>583871480AI is retarded though NE is better in every way and Orcs is miles ahead of both, even trolls are better
>0 changes or compensation in October 8th dev notes for the objectively weakest, slowest and most dogshit spec to play in PvE, PvP and levellingSo now that the arms is dead which hilariously broken spec should I reroll to? SL/SL warlock, retri paladin or enh shaman?
>>583871524>Healers with HoTs can heal warlocks.so shaman
>>583871574AI says the night elf racial is good for burst damage for rogues, druids and hunters
>UD I'm now level 15 and still haven't left TirisfalWhat the fuck is this quest density
>>583871290Best priest PvP racial>Confounding Flash - A 0.5 second cast spell that confuses up to 5 enemies within 8 yds for 3 seconds. Any damage will break the effect. 2 minute cooldown.Keep in mind for normal racials that what dwarves get is an immunity to poison, bleeds and disease and a 10% physical damage reduction for 8 seconds with a 3 minute cooldown and that's it.
>>583870951>had a run of dalaran with two warlocks using hellfire and lifetapping instead of drinking
These legacy talents are straight dogshit lmao.And some of them are actually invasive like stealth perception.The total opposite of how they should work.>you catch 2 fishThey should all be like that.
>stoneform? it's shit>shatter curse? OMFG PLOX NERFexplain this dotards
>>583870951>being such a shit eater that you dont allow your dps to pvmp even though low level dungeon damage (especially with all the new gear) is so minimal the tank only drops under 50% when he pulls like 8-10 mobs at onceYou're a dogshit healer. Buy more water you fucking poor faggot. Drink the millisecond you exit combat you fucking nigger. You will never be a better healer than me, so just roll dps because no one likes you. I'm pulling 1st/2nd dps in all my groups playing a pvp spec oriented Shockadin and have never let anyone wipe and always let my warlocks pvmp.Be a better human.
>>583855434it'll keep getting worse, you'll keep eating shit and moving the goalposts for the devs, like a redditor, you know?
>>583871290>Escape artist still sucksEscape Artist is so strong that gnome has been the meta pvp pick for warrior on retail for a decade. The version in Forever is EVEN STRONGER giving you full immunity for 3s. You are genuinely retarded if you don't think this racial is insane.
>>583871719
as a tank player in retail, tanking in classic seems so much less fun since you are completely reliant on the healer. You have literally zero agency over whether you live or die. You just exist to hold aggro and hope your healer heals you.
BLIZZARD HELP THE ORC CHADS ARE BULLYING MY NELFIE AGAIN
>>583871872But 2% sword crit....
>>583871872slows have a cooldown on retail my man
>>583871839the other dwarf racials are useless. orcs also have -20% stun duration and a useful dps cooldown
>>583871843No, I don't think I will you dps tranny. I'll let you die instead like the shitter you are kek
>>583871926yeah you're the tank you tank damage that would kill other people
>>583870951Don't be a fool.If the tank is dying, don't heal the warlock, he'll understand.Otherwise, you should heal him. You are effectively transfering mana to him, and he'll deal more damage with it than you would since he's the dps spec.>I just don't wanna be botheredJust throw a renew or rejuv on him and be done then.What you should not do is try to keep a warlock at 100% health since you're wasting natural regen and life drain if he's using it.
>>583871852NTA but you are right. it wont get better. this is the new baseline. the bar can and will get lower.The question is, will you keep paying for it?
>>583871926lmao this stupid nigger plays retail!!!
>>583871943when you try and picture the face behind these wordsthe hairs on the back of your neck and arms stand up and you turn awaycreepy shit, just constantly never goes away
>>583871926next youre gonna be mad youre reliant on the dps to dps the mobs down
>>583872047I join as healer, but play my entire class instead of standing around like a useless tool. I am both healer and 4th dps, something your peanut brain could never comprehend.
Please blizzard delete that fucking orc anti-curse racial so I can play an ally lock
>>583871839>dwarves get stoneform and can sense treasure>orcs get stun resistance, a dps cooldown, and can get 8 second immunity to curses/banesidk seems a bit stacked
>>583872108I was making fun of faggots bitching about racial rather than the customary tranny shit but you do you, brother.
>>583871163Dwarves are the only race with essentially untouched racials. It's kinda insane. They really need to drop the Find Treasure and give them some sort of other ability.
>>583872167next week
>>583869986qrd? prot looks nice. he keeps talking about some enchant, do you need it? or what makes him so tanky?
>>583872167dont worry, racials are getting removed next week. play whatever race you like.
>>583872164cope faggot you suck at a solved 20 year old game lol. Sad!
>>583872167Its like we got a horrible monkeys pawWe got Will of the Forsaken nerfed but they just go ahead and add a curse version of it to orcs, the most played horde race At least WotF has multiple applications, when the fuck are Orcs gonna purge curses EXCEPT against Ally locks?
>>583872226It sounded like they just wanted to remove the retarded weapon racials.
>>583872167shouldn't orcs be more susceptible to curses since they willingly drank the felthat whole racial seems ass backwards, unless it's implying they developed resistance to it and retconned hellscream's willpower overcoming it or is that what they're trying to imply all orcs have now
sexelf prot woyer is turbo kino bros..
>>583871993>orcs also have -20% stun durationNothingburger racial, it's not a 25% stun resist. Stop crying faggot.
They should've made beta at least three months long. This topsy turvy flip flop shit they're doing with balance so close to release is insane.
>>583870951Fuck em. If a dps is taking damage it's because they did something retarded like pull an extra pack, rip aggro from the tank by focusing on something the tanks not focusing on or are a warlock. A tank and healer can basically 2 man dungeons, the dps are just there to make it faster so it doesnt really matter if they die.
>>583871926Stacking up your passive defensives and then standing at a wall so you don't get knocked back further while eating all the stupid stuns and whatnot has been the tank's duty for a long time.
I like the racial changes and the effort to balance them a bit have been pretty good. They still need a little work. Alliance racial balance is all over the place with Dwarf being shit, Human and Gnome insane for PvP, and Night Elf having amazing PvE. Meanwhile Horde is varying levels of good across the board.
>>583872215he has this enchant on his weapon (140 enchanting) but theres a legacy talent that does the exact same thing w/o cooldown on kill + victory rushpaladins have seal of light/healstanks are just strong.
>>583872349It's an epick referense to when Grom resisted the curse and killed MannorothHonestly i liked the flavor but i wanna play an ally warlock ffs Lizard
>Bat for terrifying clothies>Croco to stop heals>Raid petNeed more stable slots already so I can try disarm, hamstring and web pets.
>>583872354You want to trade it for find treasure?
Holy paladins how we feeling about Forever? I've played hpal only since Wrath (warlock prior to that since release). My guild is asking me to lock in what I want to play in Forever. I know 100% I want to heal only, but should I stick with holy paladin? My guild isn't autistic about composition I can play whatever I want but if hpal is going to suck maybe I don't want it.
>>583872317the 15% magic damage reduction is honestly good enough on its own already anyway desu
>wahhhh shatter curse is opyou can absolutely play an alliance warlockon pve
>>583869986Everyone who actually understood warrior has been saying prot is insane since beta release. All the parsefag browns from classic are too busy crying about arms/fury not being top dog anymore.
>>583857778kys (in game, consensually of course :)
>>583872568It's OP, but because of the magic damage part.The part about purging curses is just a fuck you to warlocks in particular.
>>583859043Like we keep telling you, never.
>>583872661Guess the dwarf one is busted too because it reduces physical damage.
>>583872167Keeping that curse on your target wouldn't have saved your ass anyway.
>>583872753>what is curse of exhaustionback to wowg troon
>>583872750I think all the dwarf hate comes from their other racials. find treasure is useless, mace spec is a meme that hunters can't even use, and beast slaying is also a meme. Stoneform is still fantastic.
>>583872750yes, although its only 10% DR
>>583872354pvpers already prove it's strong enough to fuck up wombo combos that kill other races
>>583872197I was thinking they could duplicate the Tauren's herb racial but for mining. It would still be weak but better than finding treasure, and it would be perfectly in character for dwarves.
>>583872750It would be, if dwarves had 2 other strong features like orcs do.Stoneform is actually good but dwarves get nothing else.
>>583872474i was at first skeptical of legacy points, but now i think it will keep my grindspirit going
I can't switch ruleset anymore back to my "main" beta characters after the last update. Please help.
Give it to me straight anons, is ele shaman fucked? They're not gonna make any major changes at this point are they? Based on the podcast they don't want anyone but warriors cleaving, specifically saying they don't want chain lightning to do that (which begs the question, what the fuck is the point of chain lightning now when you aoe with fire nova and single target nuke lava burst?)Is there any copium left to huff or should I just give up and pick something else?
>>583864782all HD looks horrible my good retard, stop using it
its gonna be funny when they drop a shit load of balance changes 10 days after beta is already over.If they do racial balancing next week they get 1 week of info before its over and they cant touch them on live cause they said they wouldnt
>>583872952everyone is fucked, aggrend doesnt know what hes doingforever will be stillborn
>>583872474resto shaman mogs just spamming fire nova and healing wave with water shield refresh
>>583872952Elemental isn't fucked on OctoWoW
>>583872969I sincerely doubt they mean they won't change anything about the racials, they probably won't change the racials entirely but they'll definitely tweak the numbers if something is too crazy.
>>583872952Don't listen to doom posters, shit is actively being tweaked each week. If at end game ele shaman isn't in a good place it will be buffed. This isn't classic #nochanges, shit will be changed.
>>583872969if they remove pve racials it doesnt matter
>>583870951why not? he will do more dmg if you heal himyou're not a retard, are you?
>>583864745Only if they are outlaw hubs for people who hate both the alliance and the horde.
>>583872392They can and will continue balancing the game heavily after release too. Some of you still seem to be in the classic mindset where the game is "finished" and untouchable post release
>>583873065Not a fan of the twow ele sham, it was better before the last round of class changes. Honestly, TBC ele shaman would be a pretty good place to land at.
>>583864745On pvp servers where you can kill each other they're super fun.
>>583871926im not a big retail player, but i casually tanked 1 season back in tww. and id definitely have to agree that tanking in classic is way worse than retail. the "skill" of classic tanking is really just aggro/threat management
>blizzcon>we made dungeon drops actually good>1 month after blizzcon >aschually we just made it a green and made it shit>oh that other quest reward you didnt pick? we made it better
>>583873091I'm less concerned about the numbers being tweaked and more concerned about the fundamental rotation. Lava burst fucks it.Maybe the devs will see daylight and replace LB with elemental mastery but I doubt it at this point, one of their dumb fucking devs seems married to it
>>583870951i played lock in various classic releases and yeah i hate running dungeons as lock
>>583872952>>583873091>>583873318Don't listen to shill posters, shit is actively being fucked each week, ele will get buffed in some way you don't want then nerfed to a state worse that it is now because they buffed too much
>>583873289You paid for a beta test
>>583870951>>583871790yea, I don't heal warlocks life taping to zero out of combat. if I can drink water, so can you
>>583873360i got it for free with my lunch.
>>583873338Maybe but I think the devs have a fundamentally different vision for ele then what existed in vanilla or TBC
>>583873360no i bot the collecters edition and will resell it for 2x what i spent
It's over.
>blizz suddenly backpedals and increases mob xp in dungeons>go do the new dalaran dungeon>trash mobs fucking EVERYWHERElol so they only changed it because they KNEW everyone would be pissed about this dungeon if they were still getting piss xp from the mobs.
>>583873552lol it's pikaboo
Which legacy points are you putting in first?
>>583873565a lot of the trash there is worthless anyway and isnt needed
How do damage boosts in WoW work anyway? Are they all added together or do they stack multiplicatively on category?Like if I had +10% melee damage and +5% beast damage (racial) and +5% beast damage (skinning) and +20% Sinister Strike damage, is it>DMG * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.2Or>DMG * 1.4
Broken Tooth or bat
>waahhh my 12 sec CD lay on hands got nerfed
>>58387275010% damage reduction (along with poison, disease and bleed immunity) for 8 seconds and a cooldown of 3 minutes. And that's literally your only racial. All your other racials are meme flavor racials.If you're only going to give dwarves one real racial, it had better be fucking bonkers. Like put that bitch on a 1 minute cooldown. Keep in mind that orcs now get a rough equivalent against spellcasters with Shatter Curse and they get fucking blood fury on top of that.
racials should all be disabled upon flagging for pvpcmv
>>583873669>He only has 750 hp at level 30grim
Hunter Orc Chads we are FEASTING
I still dont know why all the stats and itemization had to be redone when they could have kept it vanilla and worked on it from there?
>>583873819They didn't want warriors to take over again
it's like a revolving door of creepy ritual postersi'll say one thing about your kind, you've totally killed the wow sections on rule 34 with your stuffjust like you derail this general and drive everyone away
Does this version of WoW have DR? Can Rogues overlap CS into 6 sec KS?
>>583873819ah yes, the fabled good itemization of classic wow. how could they have forgotten?
so uh the beta is going on when there's 3 weeks until release and they haven't even finished designing the classes yet...
>>583873725Try playing the game with both hands, you'll perform a lot better.
>>583873887if you can't use filters then it's not my fault you're retarded.>>583873997i was gladiator in season 1 (the only season that ever mattered)
>>583873925wow has always had DR
>>583856285>literally fills an entire health bar from one castIt healed roughly 750 health. They nerfed it into a flash heal that takes longer to cast and is on a 12 second cooldown. It isn't worth the talent point or even the gcd now.
>>583873819because they are fucking stupid and dont realize touching one aspect of the game has a myriad of knockon effects
lollmao
>>583874032not on release no
>>583873964pretty absurd huhdoesn't instill much confidence chances the game was going to be stable enough to play at launch with everyone logging in was slim, but the chances there's some bug that actually makes the game unplayable and not just the lag is gotta be off the charts
>>583873878rage normalization and no world buffs already fixed that
>>583874028that's definitely an absurd way to justify your spamit's not like you're posting anything good or worth saving, you're just like a psy-op to push crappy pron
>>583873964yeah they are clearly not ready for launch. They are changing way too much stuff, balance-wise. I say that not because I don't want changes, but because they obviously don't have the time, resources, or skill to do such massive changes on such a short timeframe before launch.
>>583874253what are you posting that's worth reading, much less saving?
What site has all the dungeon loot?I gotta start farming my gear
now that the dust has settled, druid main warrior alt or warrior main druid alt? na ally pvp
>>583874301come on, manwe're talking about the gamejust leave us alone and stay in /wowg/
>>583874280>they obviously don't have the time, resources, or skill to do such massive changes on such a short timeframe before launchmulti billion dollar company outdone by private servers once again
>>583873887I one time posted in /co/ and then people there doxxed me and spammed fetish pornography at me, discussed pornographic the shit I was supposedly looking at and tried talking to me in r34 comments.Trannies seem to actively get off on invading neutral spaces with their fetish posting and shoving themselves onto people do not want to interact with them >UwU please fuck my elf pussy>GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME>HNNNGG, I JUST WANT TO PISS NEXT TO YOUR DAUGHTERI wouldn’t be surprised if this fag is related to them.
>>583874375you haven't talked about the game at all so far thoughbeit.
What was wrong with warrior being the best though?
>>583874309https://hyjal.cc/dungeonshttps://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/dungeonjournal
>>583873081the person that claimed that is some nobody qa tester
>>583874438seeing brown at the top of dps meters makes me mad (I am racist to brown people)
not trying to doom but im starting to feel like this game isnt going to be that good and im not going to find my gf here
>>583874438hybrids shouldnt be as strong as pure dps
>>583873416Enhance isn’t in as dire of a state as ele, but it has the same problem. MSW is fucking shit and it only being usable on LB is even worse. RotF is no doubt good, but it’s boring as hell, literally just auto attack faster.
>>583873964Classes were still being redesigned through pretty much all of vanilla
>>583873964they clearly rushed things, probably because they realized players were getting very impatient. you even had savix and jokerd were openly talking about ascension coa on stream
>>583874507hybrid means ability to heal sorry
>>583874496vanilla wasn't that good either we just didn't have as well developed internet back then
>>583873964Well..at least the necromancer will be good when they add it next year?r-right?
>>583872474not sure whenther I want this on thorn spike for extra clear and better attack speed, or on pronged cleaver sinceit has hp/5
>>583874438too many heterosexual cismen play that class. after 2024 i don't think they deserve to run away and play videogames
>>583874565this is just like when brown people tried to rewrite that brown people can't be racist against white people
>>583874602It's amazing just how easily they can screw that up for me>sorry, you can only have a maximum of 3 skeletons at once
>>583874432you're mentally ill, manyou need to be heavily medicated and locked away...Foreveryou're probably all the ritual posters rolled into one with multiple personality disordercomplain about all the degenerate shit you do in here and nothing, start mentioning what an awful country russia is you suddenly want to do your jobwhy is that
>>583874565Devs confirmed warriors are hybrids. Cope, seethe, dilate, it won’t change that fact.
>>583874438well fufu we had a decade of itI love 'nilla fury but maybe a cheeky rogue on a retail lite funserver wouldn't be so bad
uh oh he's going full schizo now
>>583874565>there's only 2 roles in wow
>>583874596i started playing in tbc
>>583874695this is also why rogues should be bottom tier in pvp
>>583874496play rp if you want umarried trannies
my class is the best and I won't tell you what it is
you WILL do mother's milk for xp
>>583874496them taking fun stuff out of the beta has caused be to 180 on forever and now i'm just dooming about it
>>583874828you people that think rogue is some unbeatable pvp god class are fucking retarded
>>583874930it's been nothing but nerfs hasn't itpretty depressing and kills all the hype
>>583874927I always hearth out>brb
>>583874914warrior with no talents
>>583874280They seem to have made new content like the dungeons before even thinking about the actual changes to the game. It's very weird.
>penance no longer worth a talent pointwhy does aggrend keep gutting the classes im considering
I hope they don't take away shatter curse since its cool and thematic. Nerf the old boring shit like axe spec and hardiness
>>583874675given this is on the retail client it can support more minions but is that classic-y?
>>583874930They're sanding down so many edges that I really do not understand what the point of this is going to be. Every weird niche thing keeps getting thrown away and you're going to be left with "do virtually 1:1 vanilla leveling but there's new raid logging to be done in six months".
>>583875126when you think about it, they homogenized hellscream's sacrfice
>>583874848whats the difference between rp and pve? ive never played on an rp server before but they seem like the same thing but rp has way less players>>583874930yea they just keep nerfing everything in every update
keep getting this message while trying to log into my charactor.
>>583875243>whats the difference between rp and pve?nothing, except theres occasional roleplay on onebut if you dont care about RP, you wont notice a difference
>>583874914as long as i can play boomkin, i'll be happy :D
>>583874438Hybrid tax
>>583874993I don't really mind nerfs, I mind just fun stuff like druids using deviant delight in form or the booty bay buckshot or the deviant murlocs / ogres.I feel like you could tell someone about the booty bay gun and it would be enough to make someone resub just to play with it or roll a class that can use a gun so they could use it. Thats the kind of stuff I want in the game and the kind of stuff that made me excited to play forever.Then they take all that shit out and we got to see the toy gun in the beta you would get for grinding 15 cheevos which would take fucking hundreds of hours and its the gayest boring piece of shit.I don't care about balance, I care about fun exciting stuff thats just fun to fuck around with and they're just taking it out.
https://youtu.be/eBkCfZZb9yQ?si=_7Zf0eEtrlAY7TgJ
>>583875113Can't wait for the ideal meta to be brownoids tanking, holy priest only healing (with mandatory rsham even worse) and then some random dps scrambling to fill the dps brownies spot. Too afraid of making op bullshit that we're back to the same group comp shit we've had for the last 20 years outside of some of the dps swapping around.
>>583874982where was that saidwe were talking about flipping the meta so the same old classes arent at the top anymore
Stoneform shoudl prevent cast knockback
Oh shit they made the murloc trinket actually good
>>583875334hybrid tax is an retard argument by warrior mains, since they are dd and tanks they are hybrid too, shaman is just healer and dd
Whats the deal with the Legacy talents giving you an extra 3 talent points?
Fresh bake>>583875561>>583875561>>583875561
>>583875264Okay, at least I'm not going completely insane. I keep having that same issue. Either that, or I get stuck on the loading screen and then it eventually disconnects me. I haven't found the stuck character service for Forever either...
>>583875505Legacy talents are fucking awful. That one that removes reagent costs is horseshit.
>>583875608Kill yourself, someone make a real new thread.
>>583875608fuck off troon
>>5838754932 skadooby damage? and its FOUR times against squeeby fishy wishy men???? YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOo
>>583869986any reason warlock couldnt do the same?
>>583875429doesn't that fall under nerfs or did you think i only meant class abilities
>>583875685warlock doesnt have cc like mages or block like pally or warrior
>>583875429It really bothers me they harp on the iconic class and world fantasy of vanilla that's partly a result of everything being broken, garbage, and wildly inconsistent half the time and anything they've currently produced that approaches like 30% of how stupid vanilla could be is instantly shot. Light of Elune is a very stupid item that's objectively a pretty dumb idea but it's funny and also not something that warped classic around itself and I straight up cannot see them ever being okay with it existing as a concept had they thought of it for Forever.
might someone not mentally ill make a new bread?
>>583875493thats like 12 damage jeezas
>>583855154>>583855154>>583855154
>>583855154>>583855154>>583855154Non spammer thread, use this
if wrath is meant to be a druids wand, why does it have a cast time?
>>583875724I feel like nerfs is something about class balance, like them nerfing thorns or ret aura.They have all these autistic things to check where you are in the world to give you a buff on a Tuesday in a grassy field, they should just let you do stuff like use the booty bay gun in booty bay or other independent goblin towns.>>583875865Vanilla wow was so cool because people would abuse shit like the wolfshead helm and other weird stuff like making warlocks tank or spell power poison rogues.I don't think we're getting that kind of fun weird stuff anymore. They already nerfed the fuck out of spell power bear.
>>583876062>>583876063thanks bros
>>583875243just create a lv 1 character on retail moonguard and stroll through goldshire and stormwind. you will get a quick idea if it's for you or not. and no, you don't need to be a homo erp'er to participate
>>583876062>>583876063Thread splitting againBut you stay silent when all the ritual posting happens
Bag sorting is still there it just only works when the backpack isn't combined
>>583876436Would you care to point out some ritual posts, for my edification?
>>583875429Yeah like really who even cares if rogues were blowing people off the boat. Like sure it happens to you and you're annoyed, but it's no different than being ganked on the boat. Just dont roll on pvp if you dont want a silly item being used on you. Streamers are ruining the game yet again.
>>583877667>Just dont roll on pvp if you dont want a silly item being used on youuhhh sweetie it could be used on allies whether or not they were in combat with you
>>583877468You really want me to show you how to do your jobNigger if you can't see all degenerate loli posting that belongs on /b/All the erotic role play and pornographic text being spammed here constantlyOr all the avatarfagging you might need glasses or the ability to feel shame for being such a dishonest piece of crapBut just hide behind being a mentally ill retard, that seems to suit you welldidn't even need to mention all the spamming and flooding, whatabout all the offtopic, you know exactly what's going on here because you seethe about people pointing it out
>>583877932Hmm yes how is it "ritual"?
>>58387802818 days of the same stuff being posted in every single thread and you want to play coyi hope you don't pull this act on people in real life, especially when you're such a whore for the archive site and every image posted in hereyou're such a clownyou're bozo the faggot futanari clown
>>583878197hehe ok
Creepy even trying to visualize someone that looks like the groundskeeper from the first season of true detective emoting thatMakes me want to throw up, hopefully you get what's coming to you
>>583869272Go back to retail then
>>583858067Based as fuck
>>583856209I wanna marry femanon
>>583858068Okay based nicechad
>>583871790Retailnigger warlocks
>>583871926Retailnigger
>>583874413Yeah listen.Weimar problems require weimar solutions if you catch my drift.
