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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9644 - Deadline Edition

==NEWS==
>Discord server launched for some reason
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #17 - October 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru

Previous Zone: >>583815317
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I’m so hyped for the CrossWorlds reveals tomorrow bros.
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IDW is trash
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Can't way for another nothing announcement for nothing.
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Need more Excito sonic cuckshit art.
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Shadow's wife?
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Reminder that /sthg/ can come up with better ideas in their free time than a paid comic staff
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Again, I like Archie because it's cool and awesome and has fighting drama and takes itself serious and is over the top. I can't go reading two pages without getting pumped reading Ian's old writing style.
To add onto what I said, Archie Sonic is just so cool. The way he talks sarcastically is cool. The art style after 160 is cool, and the action is constant. There's a big world that's filled with lore and stuff. Everything is so big and epic and dramatic. And the romance stuff, I usually ignored it besides the Sonally parts, and even then, the Sonally is validating my dislike on Sonamy.
This is why I have trouble understanding why people think that Archie Sonic is just not enjoyable. If you look at the "What" and not the "Why" or "How", there is plenty of stuff that appeals to some people in Archie.
Maybe it isn't Sonic, but it is super for certain.
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>>583857108
>1945
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The absolute best way to write Sonic himself is to make Tails, Amy and Knuckles the main characters.

If you try to make Sonic himself the main character, then Tails, Amy and Knuckles will only look like jokes, yet you will constantly be compelled to fill those roles anyway. Next thing you know, you need new insecure kids for Sonic to inspire, new damsels or magical girls for Sonic to rescue either literally or spiritually, and new rivals for Sonic to battle and compete with... which only make Tails, Amy and Knuckles look more and more like jokes because their primary role as "core characters" is to fill those roles specifically. But every new character introduced filling any of those roles in brand new ways, means that they're gonna occupy the "protagonist" role in Sonic's place for their respective story, which means the audience will become emotionally attached to them, which means that character becomes too much of an instant fan favorite to ever be forgotten or left behind. And so we'd get an entire extended cast of characters we don't even know what to do with.
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>>583857269
I don't hate Archie but the appeal of Archie isn't the same as the games beyond a surface level. I'm sure you know that due to what Archie became under mandates. That means it will not appeal to the same people. The way Sonic acts will not always appeal to people who adore him in the games, at best they'll see him as a different person entirely. Like Robin in Teen Titans vs Robin in Batman.
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>>583857438
What if you make Sonic the main character purely, and bend the writing to be worse so that he can be a pure protagonist
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>>583857241
ideas are cheap.
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>>583857269
I wouldn't have the tiniest problem with Archiefags if they would give up on this whole "It wasn't OOC" retardation. If you don't do it then you aren't one of those people. Archiefags are the last people who should be engaging in purist style debates and yet they still try to correct people on character. Honey and Shadow have it the worst.
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>>583857438
Almost every character Sonic interacts with should be a thesis or antithesis about freedom, commitment, responsibility, moving foward or letting go in one way or other.
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>>583857547
Sonic is not meant to be a protagonist, he's meant to be the coolest guy that ever lived in the most genuine, awe-inspiring way possible.

He's the hero Tails looks up to.
He's the love of Amy's life.
He's the unstoppable force to Knuckles' immovable object.

He's such an unattainable ideal by-design that trying to make him the actual "protagonist" in any sort of relatable way simply will not work because you'd have to undermine what makes him cool in the process.
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>>583857438
>If you try to make Sonic himself the main character, then Tails, Amy and Knuckles will only look like jokes,
No not really, Tailscel.
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>>583857438
> The absolute best way to write Sonic himself is to make Tails, Amy and Knuckles the main characters.

That's partially what I'm doing with my series pitch.
Sonic is a static character--everyone else around him go through mini-arcs. Have Sonic be the co-protagonist.

Have one episode with Sonic and Tails. One episode with Sonic and Amy. Sonic and Cream, Sonic and Tangle, Sonic and Knuckles, etc.

Of course, that's just season one shit--my personal formula is a lot deeper than that

Pic not related
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>>583857438
All 4 of them are protagonists.
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>>583857761
>Sonic is not meant to be a protagonist

What about the Classic games? Sonic is very much the protagonist of those.
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>>583857639
So are the IDW writers, apparently
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>>583857732
>muh dialectics
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>>583857269
I know this is a harsh overused comparison but Archie is exactly like if Dragon Ball Evolution was an animated movie with the same art style as DBZ so people didn't instinctively recognize that it was heavily changed. Then it grows its own fanbase and eventually Toei just lets it keep running until a lawsuit tells them to pay attention to what DBE is doing and they suddenly start making rules and limits that turn DBE into a soft AU version of DBZ and then cancel it.
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>>583857971
> the Classic games
Classic Sonic is a protagonist the same way Kirby is a protagonist

And that's okay
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>>583857848
Yeah really, the games have proved it
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>>583857908
Creampedo....
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>>583857108
I admit, this was funny to read.
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>>583857761
>>583857438
Fuck off Sparky.
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>Dragon Ball
what's going on here?
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>>583858174
How is Sonic not the protagonist in SA2, Heroes, Black Knight, Generations, Colors or Frontiers?
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>>583858198
Are you fuckign serious rn
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First Barry of the thread
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Fuck off with that retarded "Archie Sonic might be different but it's still good" bullshit. Archie was shit. Imagine writing a "Will they won't they" story for 25 years that ends in "Actually, they won't. The owners of the characters explicitly stated multiple times that one of them would never be in this kind of situation so we had to backtrack and reboot it. For good measure we killed off 90% of the cast to prevent a lawsuit"
Retarded shitty comic that deserved to be buried.
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>>583858308
It’s on topic because Dragon Ball DLC for CrossWorlds tomorrow is somewhat likely.
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>>583857146
Pay your denbts first, Alex
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>>583858342
They became shells of themselves in the games after 06, which is when Sonic became the full on protagonist and only playable character
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>>583858136
I feel like Kirby didn't become an "aspirational" character until like Super Star.

Kirby is definitely a more traditional protagonist (with flaws) in stuff like Kirby's Adventure.
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>>583858308
Do you think Ian would suck Salagir's contrarian dick like most Dragon Ball autists too?
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Archiefags, tell us how you feel about that fan comic trying to insert windnic into Archie
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>>583858739
Please, I can only eat so much popcorn
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>>583858372
Yes
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>>583857908
More like PISS the Tenrec, because she pisses on Silver LOL
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>archiefags immediately understand the concept of ooc once you shove gamenic into their comic
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>>583857725
Stop falseflagging as Krack's boyfriend, Prower
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Predict them
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>>583858440
Idgaf if it was good or bad I this context. If Archiefags like it so much they should go enjoy it for what it is.


>>583858695
Why are you just making shit up?
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Archienic can turn into Windnic via CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
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>>583859092
If Archie ever did this it would be like Charmy where the characters just look at him with concern
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We can stop pretending the 3D games were ever good.
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>>583858727
Sonic is inspirational, not aspirational. You're supposed to use Sonic as a means of finding yourself, not become Sonic yourself.
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>>583859054
I’m not. Compare any of them to their Adventure or even Classic selves and it’s no comparison. They became Sonic cheerleaders instead of their own people who work alongside Sonic
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>>583859171
Sorry, I used the wrong word, it's been a long week.
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>>583859010
There's new namefags here every day. I can't keep up.
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>>583857908
If Gold were Silver's partner in 06 instead of Blaze, the franchise would be in a much better place right now
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>>583859216
>I’m not.
You are. You're engaging in corrlation causation fallacies and making up just-so stories about those correlations, Tailscel.
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Douge
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>>583859528
Gold is an Uwu softgirl and nothing like Blaze. She's also more like a sister to Silver while Blaze is a more love interest.
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>>583858995
>>583857725
>>583858909
>>583858440
You're always doing this. Everytime people talk about Archie sanely you have to screech out loud on sidelines like we're beating your dog.

Why?
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>>583859602
I’m sorry you can’t see the obvious correlation that smacks you in the face just because it disrupts your insert fantasy, Soniccel
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The solution is not to debase Sonic but to promote his friends to Paragon status as well.
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>>583859528
>>583859696
What if Gold kept Blaze's personality and dialogue?
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>>583859820
Then just use Blaze
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>>583859805
They had a perfect opportunity to do this in Forces but instead they doubled down the other way and just made Sonic a messiah figure
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>>583859778
>Sonic out of nowhere
I'm an Amyfag actually. You're the one just trying to make up a story to justify your existing angst position rather than engaging in any real analysis.
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>>583859773
Because Archie, IDW, Sonic X, SatAM, Sonic Prime and the movies are all OOC. Learn about the characters. Play an actual Sonic game. Get to know the world of Sonic. I am inviting you to actually try Sonic for yourself.
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>>583859950
There’s nothing made up about what I said. You just don’t want to accept it because I guess apparently you like when characters are subservient and worshipful of Sonic, Ms “Amyfag”
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>>583859042
>Sanrio
>One Piece
>FNAF
>Fortnite
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>>583859935
Sonic wasn't even a Messiah in Forces. The Rookie was.
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>>583859042
Why are they still forcing this dead game instead of thinking about the next project?
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>>583860059
>Ms
Are you like 15 or something? Why assume Amyfags have to be girls? You're that underage Slashy invites here, aren't you...

Anyways, no not really. Tails was still himself in Rush Adventure and Riders Zero Gravity. Same with Amy.
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>>583859892
06 Blaze isn't even the same as Rush Blaze
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>>583860335
Because it’s one of the best games ever made.
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>>583859773
You don't have to force people to like Archie. We can agree to disagree.
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>>583860374
>Rush Adventure and Riders Zero Gravity
Non-mainline games that were in development when 06’s reception caused the shift against the friends
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The only reason Sonic X isn't held to the same scrutiny as Archie is because people just pretend the bad parts of Sonic X don't exist instead of seethe about them
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>>583860198
They both were. Because what’s the only thing better than a figurative self-insert? A literal one.
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>>583860761
>Non-mainline games
Secret Rings and Black Knight.
>in development when 06’s reception caused the shift against the friends
Making shit up again.
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>>583859773
Archiefags force their shit on everybody. "Why can't they just do this the way Archie did it" because Archie is shit.
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>>583860936
Sonic isn't an insert to begin with. Westies just do this by default for some reason.
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>>583861005
Try to rewrite history all you want, won’t change the truth
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>>583861080
>>583860029
Stop samefagging you schizo

>>583860614
Not what I said, the opposite even
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>>583861175
Nigga faggot that's what you been trying to do lmao.
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>Blaze
Ew delete her
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>>583861135
>west vs east out of nowhere
Ah you’re a jpshill, that explains it
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Welcome to /sthg/ where we discuss Pokemon waifus, Digimon ships, Dragon Ball, Mario and Kirby.
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>>583861291
>nigga thinks 06 wasn’t the tipping point for “Sonic’s shitty friends”
Lmao
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I'd fuck this Pokemon.
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>>583861365
You can tell there's no real digimon fans on this general because if you bring up digimon ships on /digi/ they get pissed off at you and act like you brought up some deep rooted childhood trauma
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>>583860396
She is, she just didn't mention her irrelevant dimension, which is pretty irrelevant overall
>>583859528
No Blazefags would be worse on pushing her everywhere and Blaze would be very vaulted...actually you're right.
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>>583861239
The fuck is he so happy about
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>>583861321
too bad
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>>583859042
Movie Sonic
Street Fighter
My Little Pony
Some shonen anime maybe once piece or goku
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>>583861365
>Pokemon waifus
Ten year olds
>Digimon ships
Fans automatically assuming main guy gets main girl and then seething because that's stupid
>Dragon Ball, Mario
Loosely related to Sonic
>Kirby
kino
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>>583861787
Don't forget the stealth Yordlefuckers. That's right motherfuckers, I see (you) in here.
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>>583861365
Don’t forget race relations and birthrates
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>>583862006
Arcane was never good
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>>583862006
Meant for >>583861365 but I guess I'm retarded.

>>583862041
Correct.
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If you would compare Arcane to a Sonic adaptation which would be the equivalent? Isn't it basically like SatAM but edgy?
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>>583861365
what other off topic bullshit could we add onto?
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>>583862006
I have a type, okay.
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>>583861543
I'm in both but I don't care for that stuff.
It's less trauma for them and more so tired of how annoying shippers are.
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>talking to girl at work about video game dev stuff
>somehow get to the topic about how rough it is for 2d games to transition into 3d
>don't mention sonic don't mention sonic don't mention sonic
>>so it's like sonic the hedgehog-
does she think i'm a weirdo furry manchild now?
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>>583859042
idk, i guess i'd like to see sackboy maybe?
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>>583861365
Anyone who says they'd fuck Rouge the Bat over May is lying or a furry
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>>583862365
Digimon shipfags are like those people who say Naruto was supposed to be about hard work
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>>583862205
Not really. At least SATAM worked with the characters they had at the time. The characters that are in Arcane are completely, utterly different in every way from their game representation to the point where some of them are on completely opposite alignments.

Jayce and Viktor are supposed to be arch enemies. Not master-student turned sour.
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>>583862273
Twitter drama and schizo ramblings.

>>583862430
>Talking to a w*man
That was your first mistake.
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>>583862638
So it's like Fleetway
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I want more Sonic adaptations like Satam where the characters are based on a basic character profile instead of controlled filler like IDW or Chipmunk films reverse engineered into adaptations like the movies. I want to see completely new Sonics
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>>583862976
The Blaze edit makes me smile the most.
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>>583862976
Fuck off mariobab
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>>583862976
This image implies that Tails put up such a good fight that Luigi added him to his iconic design.
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>>583859696
Bro, to this day I have never seen Silver act interested in Blaze in any way, let alone the opposite.
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>What Sonic would do to Surge if he was actually written like he's supposed to be in IDW
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>>583863480
Sonic isn't that mean
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>>583862976
Proving >>583857438 right in real time
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>>583863571
She's a robot/android/cyborg thing. She doesn't have rights as far as Sonic's concerned.
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Is it just me or are JPfags getting meaner
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>>583859042
I'm less interested in the paid stuff and more interested in the free stuff. I want to know what other Sonic or Sega characters might show up in year 2. But honestly, if the first two packs are any indication and they're going harder on Japanese properties this year then I'm down for whatever. They should just go for broke and shoot for like Kamen Rider or something. If you want to look at stuff they've already had Sonic collab with in the past, Fist of the North Star and Monster Hunter could be reasonable picks. Especially Monster Hunter.
>>583860335
Because it's making them money.
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>>583863808
Defensive mechanism since they realized with the movies that they’re losing their grip of the franchise
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>>583863808
I'm not a JPfag, I just don't like IDW or it's OCs.
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>>583863480
Sonic wants to protect Surge and save her from her pain
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>ugh...fine. Hurry up. My break is only 10 minutes. And you BETTER finish inside this time.
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FAT BOTTOM GIRLS YOU MAKE THE ROCKIN' WORLD GO ROUUUND
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>>583863808
Liking anime and japan is mental illness and borders on race treason.
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>You are a android. You will never be a real tenrec. You don't have guts. You don't have blood. You don't have a brain. All the emotions you feel are just pale imitations of what God's creation can experience. All the pain you feel is fake only there to feign it so that you can twist superior natural beings into caring about you.
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>>583863915
This. The movies are gaining influence over the games
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>>583864465
The funniest part is that the games have been shit for 20 years, and yet jpfags still think they have any kind of leg to stand on
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>>583862976
>>583863147
What's funny is that Mario's friends aren't even considered absurdly strong in-universe, but if you compile their feats from the games they can probably steamroll a bunch of different franchise
Meanwhile, Sonic's friends needs non-canon comics and tv shows to reach that level.
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>>583864652
Yeah. The whole "thing, Japan" mindset would be great if we were taking about One Piece but the games were genuinely shit. I don't know why so many current fans act like the games need to be treated like a fuckibg pantheon. 06 is shit.
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>>583864742
Because Mario respects their full cast and Sonic doesn’t
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>>583864652
Oh jeez oh man. I wonder what the biggest shift in the games was that happened around 17 years ago. Golly gee, how strange.
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>>583862463
May would be hotter if she was 3 feet tall.
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>>583864742
>Mario's friends aren't even considered absurdly strong in-universe
Wario decides to eat a little bit too much garlic and gets a stomach ache and the entire Sonicverse gets perma-nuked.
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>>583864869
You’re gonna have to be specific vagueposter, there’s a number of things that could apply here
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>>583864869
You mean when they got better
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>>583863438
>>583859696
Both Gold and Blaze are Silver's sister-figures, at least textually for Blaze.
I don't know about Whisper or Dapple, nothing about them gives me this vibe so far.
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Silver should rape Dapple
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Every Sonic ship would be more in-character and work better if the female was just shipped with Tails.
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Tailsfags keep trying to recreate Mina
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<3
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>>583865441
Pop quiz: what are Tails and Amy's opinions on each other
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THE SONIC LORE IS ALL FUCKED UP
FIX IT NOW IIZUKA
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This artist just kind of draws the same thing over and over
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>>583865652
I honestly have no idea beyond Amy recognizing and valuing Tails' intelligence and Tails thinking that Amy is a little bit crazy.
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a neat detail in the issue 79, the disguise mimic takes just before they kill him INB4 still alive has very obvious errors since he's in a panic, "Barry"'s fur and eye color is off, the hair is too bushy, his tail is too big, the pattern between his eyes is too thin and rigid, the darker coloration on his ears immediately disappears after the first panel. And quite frankly that bowtie is just too big
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>>583865652
Pop quiz: what is Sonic’s opinion on romance at large?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7WhvUiG5t0
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Tails' lost cousin
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>>583865730
And it’s kino every time
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>>583865957
Stop trying to activate the bestie bomb
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In the alternate Prime universes, is Knuckles still the last echidna?
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>>583866115
Yep
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I didn't even mean to start a Tailsposting but I'm not complaining. Boy!
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>>583866405
c;
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Knuckles punches the ground so hard in Heroes that it triggers volcanic reactions within the ground. And somehow you think this CHAD is defeatable.
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What would you do if you woke up one day and you were Tails?
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>>583866549
Blaze beat him
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>>583866549
Blase one-shotted him.
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>>583866563
Just fly around in high speeds
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>>583866630
You wouldn't try to hug Sonic at least once?
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>>583866563
Go get molested immediately
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>>583866734
Sonic would realize I'm not the real Tails because they share a soul bond
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>>583866863
Fair, fair.
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Best boy!!
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Boyest boy to ever boy!
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>>583867443
Guess it's just us
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>>583866563
>>583866734
I’d hug my own tails first of course, maybe for hours
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>Tailspedos start posting
>Thread dies
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>>583867607
They love killing this general
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Best MAN
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>>583867593
Just us and these chickens.

>>583867602
Two very big and plump tails.
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*headpats your OC*
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>Wake up as Tails
>First thing I try to do is get ss'ed
>Realize I'm a boy again and lack the hormones
>Sex just seems disgusting to me now and girls have cooties
What a monkey paw that'd be.
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Mmmmmmmm Tails
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It's now bedtime. Goodnight
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>>583867961
Gn Tailbro
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>>583867961
gn Tailsfren
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>>583867876
Please don't make this thread any worse than it is already
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Tails made sthg peaceful
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>>583867961
Sweet dreams Tailsbro.
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Dow
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>>583868205
The power of the best boy
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>>583868205
He's just too powerful.
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>>583868387
Fuck off krack
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Say his name.
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>>583868564
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Now we have two spammers, a pedophile and an unemployed obese retard.
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Sissy hipno Tails
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>>583868786
Say Barry, how does leftover KFC fare in that microwave?
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>>583868090
how so? the thread seems fine
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>>583869085
Cool
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4aY48uNLWo

The news of the discord server made it to Japan.
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>>583869367
So what?
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We should brew some warm tea and watch Club Chaos together, /sthg/.
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>>583869413
If anyone is curious about japanese opinion. And I doubt any japanese will join after this.
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>>583869803
Nobody cares krack
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>>583869803
>If anyone is curious about japanese opinion
No one was nor should be
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>>583869980
Im not Krack.

>>583870128
And you are not the whole general.
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I totally care about the Pisscord. Anyway, video games?
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>>583870761
start us off, king
got anything you wanna talk about?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db2HHYo-nHg
Good night.
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Would Blackwood actually end up as a creepy looking monster from losing his gloves?
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>>583871043
pleasant dreams
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>>583861365
>and Kirby
Nobody talks about that pink tranny and similar crap.
We welcome cooler likeminded household Nintendo franchises like DK, Zelda, and Metroid for example.
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>>583862976
>Mario's friends
jobs to Fire Emblem for some reason
https://youtu.be/eaMgK25tYRw
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>>583863480
Tablos headcanon
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Tails ^w^
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>>583858308
Peak just dropped
https://x.com/wyolkens_/status/2108381011725971939
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>>583869192
White Sneed
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What would you do for a 2d eggman boss that isn't a slot machine or a hammer mounted to the ground
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>>583864603
What's "brunch"?
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>>583869367
Damn, they really hate us.
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You ever just
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>>583857232
Need spankings.
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>>583872898
it's the in between period of Breakfast and Lunch.
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>As you requested Princess, only the BIGGEST I could find of the Human male species.....
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>>583866734
haha look what I did haha
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>>583873523
I thought you "people" called that the second breakfast, like literally everyone else in the Middle Earth.
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>>583873153
>DX
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>>583833197
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>>583869367
>they even explained Miia situation
I didn't expect to see that.
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>>583874369
Lame. I can’t be the only one that doesn’t use decals at all, they do nothing for me.
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>>583874327
Would you rather I play this version?
https://x.com/SPEEPSHighway/status/2107896979246272845
https://x.com/SPEEPSHighway/status/2107896982639440304
https://x.com/SPEEPSHighway/status/2107896986460430778
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>>583874361
This would be hot on an actual good artstyle
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Shadow is relatable because I also want to kill myself
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>>583858727
Kirby was always just a simple protagonist. He was characterized as an eating-and-napping protagonist that can make mistakes in Adventure, and Super Star just made that more clear (the pause line that Japanese fans started associating with Kirby's character, Marx tricking him)
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>>583875889
You and him should both follow your dreams :)
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Stacyiona!
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>>583864813
Because 06 still represents what game fans want from a story (to a degree) while Western things do not.
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>>583876913
>>583877031
an interesting in-between with Blaze’s design
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I'm not sure if this the end of the comic is still a wip for now so
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>>583877185
"I can't deal with this shit today."
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Stop being so mean
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How would Shadow react to Rick and Morty
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>>583877949
>Hmph
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>>583877949
>hmph
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>>583877823
>Stop being so mean
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I have returnethed
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>>583878061
Sex?
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>>583877949
Like anyone with a brain, he'd see it as edgy, trying too hard, and way too LOLRANDUMB KATHY TEH PENGUIN OF DOOM XDD to be actually entertaining.
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>>583878085
What?
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>>583873590
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I think people like simpler Sonic stories better. SA2 is the most popular one but it's also very simple. It's cool moment after cool moment. Frontiers and 06 try to be complex and have more slow moments.
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>>583878653
SA2 is full of plotholes.
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>>583878653
SA2 still focused on the characters and was structued around mysteries. 06 isn't particularly different in structure from past stories and has its own cool/memorable moments, it's just presented in a manner that's more confusing for people.
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>>583878186
I take that as consent
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>>583878136
Whyd u kill the gag
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>>583878939
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>>583878792
No it fucking isnt. Like what?
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>>583879153
How did Rouge get on the Ark before Eggman did when Eggman was the one who turned the facility on. If Sonic's intention was to get captured by GUN so he could learn more about Shadow then why did he escape in the first place?
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>>583878792
Sonic stories are, for the most part, poor with some golden moments sprinkled here and there. SA2 is the better game and story for Sonic's audience

>>583878653
The average Sonic fan cannot comprehend 06 but use it as the vague measuring stick for what they want
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>>583879380
Are you stupid
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>>583879492
0/10 didn't even try to rebuttal.
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>>583878980
Because I am depressed and I can only be cheered up by making other people miserable.

>>583879153
Alright, so.
How did Shadow reach ARK.
What was in ARK's half that blew up and how come nobody noticed that Geralt was building a giant cannon pointed at the Earth in literally the middle of the station.
If GUN closed the ARK, why didn't they find Biolizard?
Why was the Biolizard carrying on Geralt's will if the Biolizard was sealed in the ARK when GUN attacked?
Why was Geralt confessing his entire plan in details to have the human race wiped if the plan relied on a trap?
Who recorded Geralt's final interrogation?
Who is playing Geralt's final tape just as ARK starts to come down?
Why was Geralt, a top scientist, kept in a cell that was so easily accessible that Amy Rose, of all people, could reach it?
Why was Maria shot but Geralt was taken in custody?
Who raised and owns the other Chaos that your Chao faces during competition?
Has anyone really been as far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
How do Tails's tails work?
How could Sonic teleport back to the ARK if he had the fake Chaos emerald?
Who sang the Pumpkin Hill theme and why is it so lit?
If GUN knows that Eggman's base is in the pyramid and can casually attack him, why don't they commit more to it? Weapons Bed is a lot harder as a level, and yet the entire base is automated and I vaguely remember reading that it was abandoned for a while.
Why are there so many defense systems and escaped lab specimens in the ARK yet GUN cut through it like a hot knife through butter and somehow left enough of them that both Eggman and Tails have trouble cutting through it?
Where do Eggman's qualities as a leader during Cannon's Core come from if the dude only talks to his robots?
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>>583879823
>Has anyone really been as far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I had a fucking seizure trying to read this.
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>>583879823
>Why was the Biolizard carrying on Geralt's will if the Biolizard was sealed in the ARK when GUN attacked?
To add to this one: I meant to say "if Biolizard was sealed in the ARK after GUN's attack", but since Shadow Generations retconned the Biolizard to being a failed experiment, he was already sealed by the time Black Doom arrived and Shadow appeared.
The Biolizard is still sealed on the ARK while Geralt is on Earth in GUN custody.
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>>583879823
You are trying too hard to trigger people with bullshit, Foxcel.
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>>583878653
fans praise slop like metal virus and sonic exe so of course frontiers is the kind of shit they eat happily
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>>583879823
>How could Sonic teleport back to the ARK if he had the fake Chaos emerald?
Wasn't that one actually explained? I don't remember the explanation but I remember Shadow saying it was impossible.
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>>583860396
That’s because she wasn’t a friendless loser
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>>583879380
What are you talking about? Eggman's pyramid base has a teleporter and he uses it. Rouge finds it and uses it after. She never "gets to the ark first", she just surprises them that she's there at all
Sonic escaped the first time because he was tricked into being arrested in the first place and didn't know why, until he met Shadow after City Escape. Please play the game or at least watch cutscenes or something
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>>583880357
>Eggman's pyramid base has a teleporter
Citation needed.
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>>583880357
No he doesn't, where did you get that idea from? And that still wouldn't explain how she ended up in the control room before Eggman since he would have had to open the door first.
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>>583880217
I don't think Sonic ever explain that? He just goes "bitch I'm Sonic".
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>>583879823
>Why was Biolizard carrying on Gerald's will
Wasn't it just acting in retaliation and it was simply reawakened?
>Why was Gerald confessing
Out of spite
>Who is playing Gerald's final tape
Automatically played on ARK when all Chaos Emeralds are inserted into the ARK, Eggman taking over broadcasts led to it being broadcasted by proxy
>kept in a cell that was so easily accessible that Amy Rose, of all people, could reach it?
With Tails' help and the island also being invaded by Eggman and Shadow
>Why was Maria shot but Gerald was taken in custody?
Gerald was a high profile scientist and likely deemed useful at first before they decided against it.
>Who raised and owns the other Chaos that your Chao faces during competition?
>How do Tails's tails work?
Gameplay aspect
>If GUN knows that Eggman's base is in the pyramid and can casually attack him, why don't they commit more to it
Distracted by Sonic/Shadow at first, then by Eggman's threats
>Why are there so many defense systems and escaped lab specimens in the ARK
Likely deemed worth keeping or repurposing in the future
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>>583879823
>How did Shadow reach ARK.
When? When he and Eggman are in the Eclipse Cannon emerald holder room? After Shadow got the green Chaos Emerald that he can teleport there with?
>What was in ARK's half that blew up
Idk i thought it was rock from it being crusted over, but does it matter? Thats not a "plot hole" thats a question, it doesnt ruin the story that we dont know what the deal with that is
>and how come nobody noticed that Geralt was building a giant cannon pointed at the Earth in literally the middle of the station
Who said nobody noticed? Again do you guys actually play these games and watch these cutscenes? Even before later media explains it, the Eclipse Cannon is introduced by Shadow as one of many weapons made on the ARK by Gerald

If this is the caliber of stuff youre gonna be asking then maybe you need to consume the story again
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>>583880447
NIGGERS do you play the fucking game? You play fucking Egg Quarters and the cutscene right after she finds the teleporter and USES IT
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>>583880602
>Wasn't it just acting in retaliation and it was simply reawakened?
No. It doesn't just attack blindly: it spawns to protect the Chaos Emeralds, and when Sonic takes them off, it attaches itself to the colony to keep the mission going, only stopping when it's dead. If it was acting in retaliation, it'd be attacking wildly, and laser focused on the first thing passing by (so Sonic).
>Automatically played on ARK when all Chaos Emeralds are inserted into the ARK, Eggman taking over broadcasts led to it being broadcasted by proxy
How was that recording even present on the ARK if Geralt is executed at the end of said recording? Who saved that recording, brought it to the ARK, and then set it up to be triggered?
>Gerald was a high profile scientist and likely deemed useful at first before they decided against it.
Most military would think twice of shooting a child, GUN here clearly had orders to shoot to kill. Why was Geralt the only exception? Why were no other scientists kept alive?
>Distracted by Sonic/Shadow at first, then by Eggman's threats
How come they still have more weapons defending a mothballed base than attacking the public enemy #1?
>Likely deemed worth keeping or repurposing in the future
No, more like... who fred them? Did GUN open up all the cells while leaving?

>>583880638
>After Shadow got the green Chaos Emerald that he can teleport there with?
He doesn't teleport, play the game. He only uses it to moves quickly.
In competitive and in later games, Chaos Control is just a time stop, Shadow cannot teleport.
>Idk
Got it.
>Who said nobody noticed?
The games themselves. Shadow The Hedgehog and Shadow Generations has the GUN intervene after Geralt is saw talking to an ayylmao, but nobody cares about the Eclipse Cannon.
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>>583880904
>chaos control
Holy bait. Am I talking to Ian Flynn? Shut the fuck up bro please
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>>583880950
I accept your surrender.
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>>583880904
Why are you bringing up Shadow Generations? It helps me more than it does you, because the journal in that game establishes that Gerald made the Eclipse Cannon as a demand from GUN while also maintaining his own agenda (just like with Shadow)
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>>583880763
That still doesn't explain how she ends up in the control room before Eggman does to sneak up on him. If anything that means she had to use the teleporter after him which would make it even more impossible for her to enter that room without Eggman seeing her walk through the door.
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>>583881036
>It helps me more than it does you
Dude, why do you have to turn a discussion into a fight to the death? I'm just bringing up things that really irks me with SA2 and you act like I walked in your home, shat in your fridge, puked in your microwave, farted on your pillow, banged your mom, and sodomized your little brother.
Take a chill pill, dude.
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>>583881106
Because you don't know what you're talking about and yet talk with the authority that you do. That pisses me off. If you want to be questioning, be in good faith
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>>583881169
>i am unable to have any kind of talk without making it personal
I accept your surrender.
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>>583878136
Rick is if Shadow saw Maria get killed by a version of himself from another dimension and then hunts that Shadow down by going in his home dimension and larping as him to wait until he comes back to kill him.
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>>583881083
There is no evidence that the teleporter takes you straight to ARK's control room. Eggman uses it later in the story and when he does he appears quickly in the main capsule room with Amy. We don't know where in the ark the teleporter takes you, so we cannot speak on the timeline of where and when Eggman and Rouge both get there. This is not a plot"hole", though it is a potential open question, though it doesn't cripple the story to not have something so inane answered
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>>583880763
Wait. Wait.
I thought a transporter was more like... a drone that takes you to your destination? Like some kind of unmanned, automated probe to bring supplies.
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>>583881220
>I am retarded and when called out on it I will spin it around to portray any pushback I receive as an emotional meltdown
I accept YOUR surrender
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>>583881357
And why would you think that if it is a pad they step on that glows around them?? Again do you guys ever revisit or review the stories you criticize?
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>>583881378
>I am retarded
Yes, glad you admit. Now shoo, the grownups are talking about SA2's many flaws over there.
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>he only moves quic--ACK
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>>583881462
"I know you are but what I am" ahh response
Anyway i guess it shouldve been obvious the whole endeavor was shitty bait anyway. Ya got me
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>>583881106
NTA but that's a neutral phrase, your response to it makes your post looks odd.
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>>583881421
I assumed the platform went down and loaded a drone. Do you not know what an elevator is?
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>>583879823
No wonder you fucks see Ian as a god. You need the entire story explained to you like you're 8 or else you're completely lost and call it all a plothole.
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>>583881593
Why do you bring up Ian? Are you obsessed with him? Nobody brought up Ian before you did...
He's living rentfree in your head, huh...
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>>583881568
I don't know why you would assume "drones" are involved at all when they are nowhere in the game or story. The only ways to get to the ARK are teleporting or taking a rocket ship. Eggman and Rouge have the transporter, Shadow has Chaos Control, and Team Sonic needs to use a stolen rocket
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>>583881656
I just entered the thread and didn't read the conversation but yeah fuck ian
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>>583881687
>I don't know why you would assume "drones" are involved at all when they are nowhere in the game or story
Are you serious? How do you call all the unmanned GUN robots? Even Eggman's badniks technically are drones since they have no human crew.
>The only ways to get to the ARK are teleporting or taking a rocket ship
Haaa, yeah. I mean, if drones could get to the ARK, Sonic's goon squad wouldn't need to attack Eggman's base to get a rocket, they could just fly up.
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*Hides post*
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>>583881816
You are referring to a random unseen "drone that flies you to space". Yes gun robots and eggman badniks exist in the story. that doesnt mean what you proposed exists. A "transporter" transports.
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>>583882034
>A "transporter" transports
Yes, exactly. That's why I'm confused that you all think it's a teleporter instead. In my mind, a transporter is just a civilian carrier. Like a truck, a cargo ship, or a woman's purse. I have trouble seeing a teleporter called a transporter, but it makes more sense than believing Eggman already had drone delivery to the ARK and somehow never mentioned it.
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>>583882158
Im glad that i got you to understand a 25 year old story based on the fact that nobody called the rocket shuttle they used a transporter
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>>583882208
Oh, you only clarified ONE point, I'm still wondering who brought Geralt's recording to the ARK and set it to automatically trigger once the seven Chaos emerals are in.
And I wasn't even the Anon you talked to earlier, I just butted in because I got confused by you showing a screenshot of Rogue looking at a transporter and you claiming it's a teleporter.
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>>583882308
After the ARK raid Gerald did everything from Prison Island. He sent that message himself there, he programmed the ark to do so from there, he tinkered with the recovered Shadow's mind from there
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>>583880904
>Why was Gerald the only exception?
He was the lead scientist and the one in charge of handling the weapons. If he cooperated, they could use him, but he didn't so they executed him after.
>How come they still have more weapons defending a mothballed base than attacking the public enemy #1?
Eggman doesn't seem to intervene into GUN's doing around that time outside of SA1 where GUN still wasn't seen, while GUN's base is still their base.
>who freed them
Eggman. Lost Colony shows none of these enemies, only having GUN ones protecting the ARK.
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>>583882694
...what.

>>583882993
>Eggman doesn't seem to intervene into GUN's doing
A lot of good GUN is, really.
>some bald dude talks to an alien
>KILL EVERYONE
>mad scientist tries to take over the world probably several times and has an entire army
>meh just send a patrol or something idc
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>>583882985
Its time for Super Sonic Steel Ball Racing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoNHGngO65U
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Rouge was still never a GUN agent
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The movies took away one of Amy's most important game moments so what is there for her to actually do in movie 4? Dont tell me theyre gonna redeem Metal?
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Why did Sega ban a wholesome Sonictuber girl from it's Discord while letting in literal predators to spam "trans rights" for 16 hours per day.
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>>583883301
Shut the fuck up.
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>>583883253
The movies are making Amy from the future lol
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>>583883373
I won't!
Sega needs to unban our girl immediatelly! It's damaging the brand.
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>>583883301
I just watched a video about a FNAF "controversy" that was about a book where a guy get mutilated and turned into an animatronic, and he lives in agony, knowing that he's no longer human, but will never be a real animatronic ever.
Somehow, trannies decided that this was a sneaky dig at them, and they got mental.

So yeah, sadly SEGA has to cater to these mentally ill trannoids lest they get death threats by brainwashed cultists believing that they're in the right.
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>>583883301
Everyone involved with that channel should be put on a list and burned at the stake on a public square
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>>583883410
>give amy time travel to take away from silver
>give sonic and knuckles chaos energy to take away from shadow
>give sonic a human sidekick to take away from tails
Can the movies do anything good
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>>583883301
I thought the server said no politics allowed? Why is trans rights allowed? Thats not sonic discussion
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>>583883885
Make money lol
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>>583883929
Because Americans in general have that magical saying that "rights aren't political" and it allows them to shove politics even in space that aren't meant to allow any.
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>give Knuckles iblis to take away from Silver
genuinely why did they do this
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>>583884017
To explain why his fists are fiery
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>>583883301
Because Gwiz of PSO NGS is in charge of the discord.
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>>583884220
Are they going to explain Amy's time travel by saying Mephilies is her mom
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>>583884282
Who?
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>>583884354
>Mephilies
Mephiles. Not Mephilies.
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>>583883885
>give amy time travel to take away from silver
cd existed long before silver
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>>583884354
They might make her born on Little Planet
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>>583884443
Yes, and Amy was not a time traveller.
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>>583884426
Literal tranny that was in charge of phantasy star online western branch and official sega employee.
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>>583884354
Amy has a woman moment and messes with the time stones causing Silver's apocalypse
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>Movie 1 military uses actual guns
>movie 2/3 military uses laser guns even 50 years ago
>Movie 1 Wade is slightly silly but also an expert marksman with a real gun and nearly sniped Eggman's head
>Movie 2/3 Knuckles Wade is a retard and a coward
>Movie 1 Sonic is kind of immature but Tom's friend rather than his son
>Movie 2/3 Sonic is a little boy
>Movie 1 Tom is a standoffish guy with edgy humor who rolls his eyes at everything
>Movie 2/3 Tom is a gentle guy who always gives life advise and welcomes everyone
>Movie 1 Military is the US Army
>Movie 2 Military is GUN
>Knuckles show says that the US Army in the first movie was actually GUN and they changed their name to GUN to distance from Robotnik
>Movie 3 says GUN always existed and was always called GUN
>Movie 1 shows Longclaw fending off hundreds of echidnas alone
>Movie 2 says Longclaw singlehandedly killed the entire echidna species in self defense (how)
>Knuckles show says Longclaw is Adolf Hitler
>Movie 3 says Longlclaw is Sonic's Maria
>Movie 2 Knuckles said the last time he saw his Father was when he left to fight Longclaw
>Knuckles series the last time he saw his father was when he died while Longclaw destroyed the city
>Movie 1/2 Sonic keeps bringing up that he's an alien from outer space
>Movie 3 Sonic doesn't even know that he's an alien and guesses he's technically one
>Knuckles series Episode 1 Wade already knows the word "Pachacamac" by its actual definition
>Knuckles series Episode 4 Wade has never heard that word and can't pronounce it
>Movie 1/2 Gun Commander hates Sonic and wants him arrested
>Movie 3 Gun commander says Sonic is the only person in the world who can be trusted with the ECLIPSE CANNON TRIGGER
>Movie 2 Sonic knows it's pointless to murder a downed opponent and thinks it's weird that Knuckles doesn't understand this
>Movie 3 Sonic almost kills Shadow
>Knuckles series Knuckles can walk around in public unbothered
>Movie 3 Team Sonic has to wear disguises to avoid drawing attention
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>>583884483
cd is going to be treated as another world and they shoved it onto amy instead of sonic who should be the one time traveling
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>>583859528
Nothing would actually change other than Blazefags continue figthing amyfags instead ofswitching to silver fans, since the gameplay and all the elements that made the game be badly criticized would still stay.
in terms of pure logisticality, Gold isn't a warrior type that would survive in an apocalypse and she is also from another dimension like blaze but ofc no one cares for this character other than sonazefags seeing a ticket from archie of al things.
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>>583884727
Kinda curious, is there any potential for a Movie Sonic Flashpoint if he saved Longclaw?
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>>583885032
flashpoint was a terrible idea and every adaptation and homage of flashpoint is even worse
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The last two times I've seen Gold brought up is by Silverfags wanting anyone to replace Blaze over discontent of Silver's story in Sonic 2006 and anger at the usual blazefaggotry
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>>583884604
...You do know that the "Flames of Disaster" storyline was already used in the Knuckles tv show, right?
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>>583885158
I've only seen either silverfags seething at her due to evan's ''likes capable and confident people'' thing and sonazefags bringing up gold to bargain people to replace her over blaze. i haven't seen anyone else talk about gold or care about her in any other situations.
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>>583885071
It wasn't a terrible idea and the bad adaptations don't really hold water as criticisms of the original + animated movie
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>>583885257
Gold was created as an accessory to Silver. What else would there be to talk about with her? Her lame backstory that never even saw the light of day? No thanks I'd rather she just be Silver's string-free cocksleeve
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Nobody actually wants Gold. Gold is just a placeholder word for "Replace Blaze". None of you care about Gold's character or her butthole.
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>>583885378
>Nobody actually wants Gold
[THE GOD-EMPEROR OF MANKIND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION]
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>>583885335
She isn't even that, she's a ''lesbian friend'' prototype of what diamond cutters do.
>>583885378
Yeah i literally only see sona-/blazefags bring her up. it's funny too because gold isn't even from the future.
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>>583885257
I've seen those and those instances far outnumber what I've seen, but that it happened at all really had me do a double take at the amount vitriol you'd have to have for Blaze and Blaze fans to consider Gold as a replacement in Silver's story
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The only way to fix all the retarded female OCs made in post-SGW Archie is to give them boyfriends.
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Movie 4 will literally be a shitty Terminator 1. Amy (Kyle Reese) travels back in time to save Sonic (Sarah Connor) from the T-800 (Metal Sonic) who was also sent back in time. Add in some alternate timeline multiverse bullshit like dinosaurs and Lancelot Shadow and you have a retarded movie for dumb babies that won't be as fondly remembered as the previous movie.
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>>583885572
Blazefags brought the idea themselves before. then some of the silverfags got traumatized by sonazefags to get to that point. i understand wanting to distance from blaze or silvaze but i don't think gold/diamong cutters/espio actually will convince or get real popularity as replacements. they should just either expand his backstory or expand the SSS thing.
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>>583885517
I know, i'd rather she be cocksleeve than lesbian friend
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>>583885517
>two girls are friends
>"LESBIANS LESBIANS LESBIANS LESBIANS LESBIANS"
You have to be 21 to post here.
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I care about Gold.
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>>583885161
You don't know how time travel works? That's the result of Amy messing with the timeline. It all comes together, you will see
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>>583885335
>Her lame backstory that never even saw the light of day?
What else was there to it? Her world got destroyed and she escaped to Silver's.
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>>583885803
So do I
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>>583885647
The problem with that (fake) synopsis is that Terminator time travel rules dictate that the Future does change. Kyle Reese exists in a bad future to save the woman who will give birth to the man who saves the future.

If we are following those rules, Amy is pointless as she doesn't come from a bad future. Kyle had to impregnate Sarah Connor. I doubt they're gonna go that route.
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>>583885934
>Terminator time travel rules dictate that the Future does change. Kyle Reese exists in a bad future to save the woman who will give birth to the man who saves the future.
No?????
Kyle exists and he literally fucked the man who saved him into existence. Terminator is a time loop. You're mistaking it for Return To The Future were Marty messing up his parents' first encounter almost deletes him.
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>>583885895
I doubt that backstory. Everything got wiped out by the Lawsuit wave.
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There is a thing where a non canon character keeps showing up in fanon but without any of their lore because nobody cares about it. Gold is the queen of that trope.
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>>583885895
Evan's idea is that Gold's world was a parallel to Silver's like the Sol Dimension, not sure if planned to literally be the future sol dimension or not
After that Gold wouldve just been the girl to Silver's Dr Who as they had time travel shenanigans
>>583886071
Gold is postboot so no need to bring that up
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>>583885781
Evan literally said Gold likes girls and would have crushes on Sally, Blaze, and Rouge.
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>>583886084
Because like most Evan ideas, she's a neat idea but her attached story is dogwater so rather than respect it we all feel we'd be better off retooling it. That goes double because Gold comes from Archie, a non-sacred source that we don't need to respect
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>>583885758
Dapple is a bit better for that prupose.
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How is Gold not from the future if she's an alternate timeline version of Silver?
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Perchance we will see a new trailer today
Perchance not
Perchance it doesn't matter
Perchance it does
Perchance
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>>583886125
If it's not in the comic, that's just the author's opinion and it's not canon. You're acting like these fags who look at beta/cut content in games and assume it's canon even through it's literally not in the game. Do you REALLY want to be a fag? Do you really want to that loser that everyone makes fun of because he claims that Mario canonically beats up Yoshi because he does so in sprites that were removed from the game?
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>>583886026
Kyle exists cause the bad future happens and is unavoidable (at least until T2 anyway). Even if they successfully kill John Connor, the bad future will continue to exist thus Kyle continues to exist. The timeloop is irrelevant.

This is why Amy coming from a bad future doesn't work in the example. It would mean Sonic surviving still leads into a bad future. Why would they even send a Metal back into the past to stop Sonic at that point?
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>Movie 4 has Sonic run through multiple time loops becuase he runs throughs loops in his games all the time
bros the writers are on to something
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Silver the hedgehog FTW!
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>>583886071
Her world was destroyed by the Time Eater knockoff called the Second Devourer.

>>583886094
That wasn't the plan with Gold's origins when Archie was still going. Someone just brought that future Sol Dimension stuff up to her later and she thought it was a good idea.
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>>583886094
Tbh i don't think silver or shadow should have sol counterparts, the idea is that shadow and silver are sonic in different times while blaze is sonic in different space. we could maybe get a sol knuckles or a proper sol eggwoman but i don't think any of it after that should be its own thing rather than mirror/paralleling.
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>>583886209
she's not from Silver's same world, so she's from "a" future but not Silver's
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>>583886125
>Evan literally said Gold likes girls and would have crushes on Sally, Blaze, and Rouge.

Thus the only way to fix Gold is to give her a boyfriend.
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>>583886276
Go Silver!
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Sonurge
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>>583886084
Sally and Scourge are that lol.
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Tsundere bullshit needs to die
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>>583886246
>Even if they successfully kill John Connor, the bad future will continue to exist thus Kyle continues to exist
No. Because as Kyle explains, humans only won in Terminator 1 because of John Connor. If the terminator killed Sarah Connor, John Connor wouldn't have been borned, and Kyle would still be working in a machine concentration camp.
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>>583886365
Nobody ever plops them. People care a lot about their lore and try to make it fit
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>>583886094
>>583886283
So is it a "world"/planet, a dimension, or a timeline that Gold comes from? I believe that needs to be specified at this point.
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>>583886426
It's the same as Silver's
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>>583886292
I don't think a Sol Knuckles works because that's already Blaze and the SE don't need an ME
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>>583886084
Sonia and Manic show up in so much fanfiction without anything from Underground. I think most people never even watched Underground because Sonia is almost always written as a girlboss instead of a stuck up princess in fanon.
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>>583886456
No it isn't. She explicitly isn't from Silver's "world"/sekai
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>>583886241
It's canon because the writers were going to do it if the comic wasn't cancelled.
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>>583886458
It would be a nega knuckles(?)
So no sol counterparts are going to be there besides blaze and marine?
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>>583885781
This particular thing annoys me across all media.
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>>583886386
>No. Because as Kyle explains, humans only won in Terminator 1 because of John Connor.

The "Bad Future" in this example is the Machine War. John Connor is the determining factor of who wins the war but the war i.e. Bad Future is unavoidable. If it was then Kyle would never need to go back into the past as his timeline would be wiped out....Anyone else starting to feel like Austin Powers in the 2nd movie?

Point is, Amy going back into the past to stop a bad future would void her existence/reason for coming back to the past. That's why I don't buy the "She has to save Sonic" bit.
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To make a Sol equivalent, you need to make a new character based on a gay ship (Sonic and Knuckles)
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>>583886426
It's a dimension.
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>>583886336
It's kind of funny silver is considered a pretty boy but has no one crushing on or fangirling after him.
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>>583886537
If it was cancelled then it's not canon. Simple as.

>>583886564
Same, bro. It's just irritating that characters can't be friends without wanting to fuck each others.
I'm scared of looking for Sage pictures out of sheer terror of what I'll find.

>>583886576
>Bad Future is unavoidable
Yes, because it's a timeloop. So the future cannot change.
You confuse me more and more as we talk.
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>>583886292
>>583886458
>>583886547
Consult the Chart.
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Shadow and Silver's Sol counterparts would just be cats.
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Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic Adventure DX
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood
Sonic Lost World
Sonic Adventure 2
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>>583886723
The only one here I didn't already know was SA2
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>>583886669
>Yes, because it's a timeloop. So the future cannot change.

Okay but they why does Amy have to come back to the past? Unless they are changing direction to "Sonic goes to the Future in order to save it" and not "Amy goes back into the past to save Sonic", the loop doesn't work.
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Sol OCs
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>>583886693
This chart is funny because while none of it is intentional them expanding amy's time travel/mysticism shit serves this.
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>>583886461
>and Manic
Are you sure?
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>>583886812
Correction, it doesn't work YET. Maybe Amy has incomplete information, and believes that Sonic will get killed by a weird hedgehog, but then it's revealed that she was that "weird hedgehog", and that it was a misunderstanding?
Actually, wait, why are you talking about Amy, I thought we were talking about Terminator?
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>>583886641
We need more fujos in the industry
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>>583886903
I didn't mean guys, i meant girl charas
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>>583886641
Sonic has Amy because he is built on the idea of only caring about being free. But because they are inverted mirrors to Sonic and their partners needing to be inverted mirrors to Amy, they can only be single minded about one thing, and the girl has to be reserved emotionally but still caring. Shadow lost his real Amy (Maria) and now has Rouge, and Silver has Blaze
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>>583886890
>I thought we were talking about Terminator?
I was talking about the Terminator time travel rules in regards to the fake Sonic 4 synopsis >>583885647
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>"Oh my Chaos"
>Tailsream
>"Chaos Energy"
>Shadow's green chaos emerald is maria
>Tails with blue shoes
>Surge as a tsundere
>Sonic screaming while going super
>Amy saying "Sanikku" in english
>Sonic being ADHD
>Whisper having autism
>Rouge being an unironic slut
>"Ames"
>"Knux"
>Sonic and Shadow with trans scars
>Shadow hating Tails
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>>583887050
I know silvaze is a thing but other than imagery it isn't really invoked or suggested that blaze is attracted to him in some capacity. i don't think it should be romantic but silver could have random npcs trying to flirt with him while he is completely oblivious/indifferent for funny scenes(like even more indifferent than sonic)
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>>583887113
They're already at the fourth movie?!
Urgh.
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>>583886882
NTA but yeah. Sonic usually needs a family in any somewhat serious fanfic. Sonia and Manic appear together.
To add drama, there is a 50% Manic died and Sonic has a little childhood trauma about it
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>>583886404
Brother, I've seen Sally appear in things with no backstory and none of the other Freedom Fighters with her. And I've seen the same with Scourge where the only thing mentioned that he's an evil Sonic from an ant dimension with nothing else.
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>>583887120
Ames is gross
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What makes JesterNic so iconic? Everyone loves him
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I wonder if there is one genuine Goldfag out there
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>>583887380
>The one Gold characterfag watching her get whored out to get rid of Silvaze
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The Evan special
Good design wasted on crying lesbian
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>>583887469
I thought the Evan special was mind control
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>>583887423
I could read archie for lulz maybe
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>>583887518
Evan managed to keep Uwuver out of Archie somehow for the Gold arc
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>>583887120
>Shadow's green chaos emerald is maria
First time I've heard this.
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>>583887423
I believe only SSS thing being expanded can get rid of silvaze, if something is going to get rid of. all other suggestions are too astroturfed/memed than having actual popularity.
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>>583887630
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>Sage as an evil emperor in Silver's time
>Silver as Shadow's son
>Adult Tails wears goggles
>Adult Knuckles as white stripes in his hair
>Rouge with bangs
>Sonic with a bandanna on his neck
>Amy giving up on Sonic
>Chris Thorndyke as a punching bag
>Elise as a punching bag
>Tom Wachowski death
>Cosmo's seed is Tails's kid
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Will Sage be in Movie 4?
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>>583888538
movies are shit so there is a high probability she will be there
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>>583888615
How can you not live Sage?
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>>583888656
High IQ White
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Roger Craig Smith groomed me
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>>583886641
Sex appeal chart
Knuckles
Shadow
Silver
Tails
Sonic
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>>583888708
In unniverse it's probably Sonic>Shadow>Silver>Knuckles>Tails.
out of universe is Shadow>> with others being interchangeable.
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>>583888697
It's true I saw it happen, he kept using his Sonic voice to lure this anon into a house.
I let it happen because lol, lmao even.
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Why is Sage the worst character ever?
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>>583888825
There is no way Silver wouldn't realistically be malnourished and deformed as hell give the apocalyptical environment he lives in
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>>583888880
Sloths don't make good characters.
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I want to feel Silver inside of me.
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>>583888880
ruins eggman, pointless, bad design
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>>583888825
Fuck you, Knuckles is the most handsome
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>>583888884
He's somehow considered bishonen.
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>>583887469
I haven’t read issue 91 yet and I already hate it
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>>583889219
Somehow no one spoilt issue 91
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>>583889219
>>583889332
The issue isn't out until later this month
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>>583879823
>see this post
>"aw nice, finally a post to bring up SA2's flaws, let's see what people say"
>only 2 answers are actually serious, and they still fall in the "so here's my headcanon about this"
>all the other responds are people trying to deflect or raging that someone asks question
Not a cult, huh...
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rape Blackwood
waterboard Blackwood
recreate the Abu Ghraib photo with Blackwood
sound Blackwood's eunuch cock until he can only piss blood
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>>583890079
It was shown early at a con
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>>583890079
made for big blackwood
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>>583861328
>Out of nowhere
It wasnt tho.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL3zy6xdU-o
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>>583890538
Jesus christ what a fucking blast from the past, I remember first seeing this when it came out and I was 10. Song's still in my head sometimes.
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>>583890294
Y-You think so?
*blushing*
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>>583863617
Because of.powerscalinf arguments on fucking twitter? That's your motivation?
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I think they should go back to the multiple characters because it was cool and lends itself to the saturday morning cartoon tone of Sonic stories and because today they'd have the technology to not make it awkward and unpolished (if Sega wasn't run by chimps)
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Do they ever give a reason for why Silver and Blaze are buds outside of the 06 timeline?
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>>583890917
Every game since Sonic Mania has had multiple playable characters
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>>583891240
Tanabata
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>>583873970
Japan really loves Amy.
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>>583891254
Yeah but I want to see it in a new story where the multiple characters aren't relegated to End of the World part 2
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>>583891368
>Eternal profile picture
That dude knows what he's talking about
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>>583891240
They remember working together in 06 timeline, ''heart memories'' etc. Similiar to how Elise is suggested to still remember sonic's presence after the timeline reset
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>>583891541
>muh 06 is canon
Blaze can't be from the future and also from the Sol Dimension, quit the cope.
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>>583891404
Mania, Forces and Superstars already do this. I think it's a safe bet that the next mainline Modern game will do it too.

>>583891541
Why would they want to remember struggling and failing to defeat a fire demon?
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>>583891638
She isn't from the future in 06, the sealing at the end is supposed to be her returning to sol dimension.
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>>583879380
She's a Bat and a spy/stealth expert? This isn't what a plot hole is. Something being plausible isn't a plot hole.
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>>583891638
>>583891725(me)
furthermore, her sonic channel descriptions at the time said sol emeralds can displace her in time if attempted to travel between dimensions, so that's probably what happened.
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>>583891947
Sure, I can buy that for a dollar.
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>>583891638
If 06 was successful, do you think ST would have retconned Rush and made Blaze a character from Silver's future?
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>>583892084
Probably, or just retroactively made it that the Sol Dimension is where 06's failed timeline went.
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>>583892084
>>583892186
06 Blaze was never from the future in the first place
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Haters shit their pants in fear at the perchancebility of Silver and Blaze appearing in the movie, making the 06 theories canon. Where there is will there is a chance. And perchance, Blaze was form the future all along, as she should. Perchance.
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>>583892323
I mean unironically with both Movie 4 being a Bad End Future and the Flames of Disaster already being a thing. I'm genuinely curious what they WOULD do for a Silver movie.
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>>583892323
I actually think 06 using a character not from the future as silver's teammate was on ppurpose
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>>583879823
>How did Shadow reach ARK.
Chaos Control
>>583879823
>What was in ARK's half that blew up
That wasn't half of thr ARk. That was debris on it to seal it. It was sealed after it was shit down. Also this isn't a plot hole regardless.
>how come nobody noticed that Geralt was building a giant cannon pointed at the Earth
The ARK was a weapons facility. He was making it under the pretense it was for GUN. This isn't a plot whole one way or the other. Again, something being plausible is not a plot hole.
>>583879823
>If GUN closed the ARK, why didn't they find Biolizard
????
1. GUN already knew about it.
2. Why would they need to find it or not?
>Why was Geralt confessing his entire plan in details to have the human race wiped if the plan relied on a trap?
He's mentally ill. Also again this isn't a plot hole. Something being plausible is not a plothole.
>Why was Geralt, a top scientist, kept in a cell that was so easily accessible that Amy Rose, of all people, could reach it?
This is you just shitting on Amy.
>Why was Maria shot but Geralt was taken in custody?
GUN wanted Gerald to keep working for them from jail and Maria specifically released Shadow even tho they said not to or they will shoot.
>Who raised and owns the other Chaos that your Chao faces during competition?
I'm done taking you seriously.

People do.this all the time. SA2's story is beloved so people try to make up pretend forced cinemasin tier "issues" with the plot to try and take it down a peg

The story isn't even perfect and does have some issues but people almost never bring them up because they are too busy making issues up.
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>>583892568
>nothing but deflections, headcanons and namecalling
Yawn.
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>>583892568
I underestimated people's insistances on not read between the lines even more than i previously thought.
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>>583890081
>headcanon
You dont know what a plothole is.
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>>583892568
I wonder did Gerald learn she was shot from GUN or did he figure what happened by himself? i assume the latter because why would you tell him that
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>>583891947
Eh, even back in 2009 this facet of the Sol Emeralds felt dubious and tacked on. Like literally a sentence just thrown in at the end.

Of course this wouldn't be the first time ST just added new abilities to the magic stones. (i.e. the ME holding a monster)
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>>583892896
It was probably an afterthought but it's there. If chaos emeralds can time travel i don't see why sol emeralds would be different. it'd certainly help if she actually held them in 06's story though.
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>>583892846
It's revealed in Shadow Generations that he found by accident a list of all the people who died when the ARK "closed", and figured out that it wasn't an accident.
Oh yeah, apparently GUN arrested him while he was on Earth, they didn't arrest him on the ARK, so that's why he had no idea what went down. That still doesn't explain how he magically reprogrammed both Biolizard and Shadow especially since Biolizard was still on the ARK.

I'm trying to find the exact source, give me a moment if you please.
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>>583892896
I liked the original explanation that the Sol and Chaos Emeralds were like North and South Poles in Sonic Rush. But now with the the Ayy Lmaos having made the Emeralds, the Sol Emeralds are even more of a ???
Like are they a contingency plan? Were they made by the same aliens? Did they escape into the Sol Dimension as a Plan B using a separate set of Emeralds?
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>>583880904
Biolizard was following Gerald's programming
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>The Sol Emeralds randomly deciding to send Blaze 200 years into the future of Sonic's dimension, she was just trying to go on a vacation and visit Sonic.
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>>583892983
That's another thing too, the Sol Emeralds don't even show up on 06, so who's to say she even used them to travel to Sonic's dimension?

>Chaos Emeralds
06 messes with the CE lore too since it says Elise had one of the seven for most of her life, so most of the series couldn't have happened in the original timeline (tho I guess that got erased).

06 was a mess lol.
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>>583882694
>tinkered with the recovered Shadow's mind from there
Didn't happen. He finished Shadow. The mind tinkering was with Biolizard.
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>>583893671
no it wasnt
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>>583893606
>06 messes with the CE lore too since it says Elise had one of the seven for most of her life, so most of the series couldn't have happened in the original timeline (tho I guess that got erased).
People are very very fucking stupid when it comes to this thing. It doesn't undo the entire series in the slightest, it's a bootstrap paradox.
>Shadow and Silver go back in time
>Silver hands Elise the Chaos Emerald
>There are now two versions of that Chaos Emerald
>Years pass, every game happens
>Eggman eventually finds out about Elise's Chaos Emerald
>06 happens
>Shadow and Silver go back in time
>Silver hands Elise the Chaos Emerald
There's no origin point, Silver always gives Elise the Chaos Emerald so that he can eventually get the Chaos Emerald and give it to Elise. There's two Emeralds until there aren't.
https://youtu.be/u4SEDzynMiQ
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>>583888964
It only ruins Eggman when Ian is writing their dynamic, in the japanese dialouge the father/daughter stuff is not there
Sage is just meant to be a loyal servant to Eggman able to control machines and tech
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>Amyfags want to woobify Metal Sonic
He's a cold, calculating, soulless machine. It is completely impossible for him to feel sympathy for anyone or be swayed by cuteness or humanity. Even drawing silly fan art of things like this just shows how much Amyfags actually hate what makes this series great. Amyfags want to woobify fucking EVERYONE IN THE SERIES don't they? "Aw she's just so cute that EVERYBODY is her simp even the heartless soulless killer robot!" She just completely erodes away the hard shonen edge the characters used to have. I hate Amyfags so much. I hate Amy more than anything. Amy is a complete cancer.
It’s more than that. It's a look into the mind of the Amyfag. It’s a manifestation of the degradation of the Sonic series. It’s a testament to the fact that Amyfags are willing to distort the very essence of the characters and the series itself for their own sick amusement. Metal Sonic was a character designed to be a formidable adversary, a symbol of cold, unfeeling machinery. And to Amyfags, he's reduced to a joke, a mere puppet swayed by Amy’s supposed "cuteness" Either that, or just a bowling pin for her to easily knock down so she can show how she's so much better than everyone else. This is not a joke. It's a subversion. It’s a mockery of the character’s original design and purpose. It's a mockery of the creative integrity and appeal of the series. Amyfags are under the illusion that every character in the series exists to fawn over Amy. They genuinely believe that's all they should be for. They genuinely do everything they can to sway and influence and manipulate on social media to get what they want. They make me want to puke.
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What happened to Tegaki btw
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>>583885071
I was about to say but you beat me to it. Flashpoint is one if those iconic things in DC that is cooler in concept than it has ever been in execution and everytime they try to retell it, they make it worse.
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>>583893186
WHICH programming? If I got the timeline right, Biolizard was sealed after his tantrums, way before Gerald met Black Doom, so there's no way GUN would've brought it down to Prison Island for Geralt to keep working on it since they knew about Shadow's existence?
And the Biolizard doesn't seem to have the kind of super-intelligence needed to figure out the entire situation over the course of SA2 and take the decision to do Geralt's bidding.
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>>583893939
SHITtal is a jobber in reality, what more people should be doing is to glaze less about Metal.
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>>583893910
But even still, I don't like her design. It's like a failed omellete
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>>583894146
>before Gerald met Black Doom,
No
>>583894146
>so there's no way GUN would've brought it down to Prison Island for Geralt to keep working on i
They didn't. Gerald had access to thr ARK at somepoint while he was in prison.
How Gerald had access to ARK while in prison is one of the few actual plotholes/questions with SA2.
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>>583893910
>dialouge
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How is it that after over a decade of voicing Sonic, Roger still hasn’t been able to give a single good performance as him?
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>>583894542
He was supposed to leave his role even yet people begged his ass back
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>>583894481
>Gerald had access to thr ARK at somepoint while he was in prison.
HOW?
>How Gerald had access to ARK while in prison is one of the few actual plotholes/questions with SA2.
Well, fuck. I hoped that one of you fags could point me to something I missed in a game that explains that. Thinking about it, I kinda understand why Robotnik confesses his plan on camera (they likely tortured him, since he's literally enchained, which even Sonic wasn't, and he's emaciated compared to the jolly Robotnik we see), but the parts with Shadow and Biolizard both agreeing to his plan just confuses me.

Actually, let me add a label to that timeline.
>Did Shadow knew about the Biolizard?
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>>583893939
Woobification is a big problem in modern fandoms
I don't mind people drawing cool tough characters doing cute stuff but turning them into helpless weak insecure babies who needs to be protected and coddled is just humiliating
I don't know how many men do this cause it does feel like a women only situation. Women who can't express their child caring needs since they don't have children themselves so they use fictional characters to fill that void
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>>583894146
>there's no way GUN would've brought it down to Prison Island
The original writing for SA2 heavily implied Shadow wasn't created until Gerald went insane from Maria's death while he was locked up in Prison Island, implanting memories of Maria into Shadow for his revenge. Mind you this has since been retconned to hell and back but even Sonic X went with this implication.
>SA2 EN: Somehow, someway, I got scared as I no longer was able to control my thoughts. All I could think about, was that I wanted it all to end. Based on my original projections, I was able to complete my project; Shadow. I designed its mind to be perfect, pure... I will leave everything, to him. If you wish, release and awaken it to the world.
>SA2 JP: Somebody please stop me... Based on the original data, I've finally completed Shadow. I have perfect control over his memory. I will leave everything to Shadow. If anyone in the future desires, awaken him. If you want...
So with it being retconned that Shadow WAS infact born on the Ark, the only way this could've worked is for Shadow to either have been found by GUN and brought to Prison Island, or he landed on Prison Island.
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>>583894606
I have no idea why, since he has no memorable lines or moments as Sonic. Even Jason, who people hated as Sonic originally, was able to give some good line reads towards the end of time as Sonic. Is it just because they grew up with him as Sonic?
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To add to my own post: Shadow Generations suggests that GUN didn't close the ARK because of Geralt buttering up Black Doom to prepare to fuck him raw with his Eclipse Cannon, but because of one of Geralt's experience (MAYBE the Biolizard).
So did GUN knew about Black Arms and Geralt's plan to use Shadow against it?

>>583894757
>The original writing for SA2 heavily implied Shadow wasn't created until Gerald went insane from Maria's death while he was locked up in Prison Island, implanting memories of Maria into Shadow for his revenge. Mind you this has since been retconned to hell and back but even Sonic X went with this implication.
...are you fucking kidding me? I'm gonna need alcohol.
Then again, this does line up with Rouge presenting Biolizard as the actual ultimate lifeform, even if this is retconned by Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>583894542
I'm sick of Roger and most of the voice cast but in their defence, the voice directors over at SoA just fucking suck. They've been stuck being told to play these characters under 50 layers of irony and "Look we're self aware, aren't we so cool by being uncool guys?".
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>>583894637
He was chained up in the same cell they put Sonic in, and executed him in. He also got his hands on Shadow after Maria’s death, and messed with his memories to make him agree to destroy Earth.
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>>583894962
And the one time they tried to take things seriously gave us Fat Deku Sonic.
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The actual incident that might've motivated GUN to close the ARK.
Assuming it's not an excuse to get their hands on Shadow.

>>583894976
>He was chained up in the same cell they put Sonic in, and executed him in
Yeah, but I suspect the chaining what after he got insane and GUN noticed his sabotage. See >>583894637, I suspect he got tortured.
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What if Sonic had fluffy hairy ears
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>>583893939
>Amyfags want to woobify fucking EVERYONE IN THE SERIES don't they?
You WILL be friendwrangled
>Trip
>Gamma
>Shadow
>Cream
>Knuckles
>Jewel
>Shadow
>Silver
>Blaze
>Bark
>Ray
>Mighty
>Belle
>Tangle
>Jewel
>Pickle
>Elise
>Infinite
>Emerl
>Big
>Metal
>Elise

Everyone is joining her MySpace friends list.

Amy's Shitty Friends!

>It’s a manifestation of the degradation of the Sonic series. It’s a testament to the fact that Amyfags are willing to distort the very essence of the characters and the series itself for their own sick amusement.

It's too late! She is already too powerful! She can't be stopped! Her chops are too righteous!
https://youtu.be/rlljg32sPOg
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>>583894393
Omelette is Bowser Jr levels of unoriginal just being a smaller version of their father Her origin was just based the spider mech boss fight in Sonic Mania were Eggman's head is upside down. Extremely forced creation just to have a new character for the sake of it
Also Eggman prefers his servants to be machines since they are programmed to be completely loyal to him
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What announcements will we be getting later today?
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>>583894637
Shadow agreed because he was traumatized and wanted revenge on his own accord. Biolizard was because of Gerald. This is highlighted in game when Gerald images and recordings start spawning when Biolizard spawns into the room.
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>>583894637
>Did Shadow knew about the Biolizard?
Ofc>>583894757
>heavily implied Shadow wasn't created until Gerald went insane from Maria's death while he was locked up in Prison Island,
Why are you still pushing this? Shadow was recovered by GUN and Gerald was made to continue
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>>583888880
That's not Cream
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>>583894757
>Mind you this has since been retconned to hell and back but even Sonic X went with this implication.
No it doesn't.
This dumb schizo theory has been debunked 7 times over.

>>583894952
Even in previous material it w
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>>583894542
He was miscast.
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Okay, I updated it.
Not gonna lie, the idea that Maria's parents blamed Geralt for Maria's death makes me sad.

>>583895381
>This is highlighted in game when Gerald images and recordings start spawning when Biolizard spawns into the room
You. You are on to something here. You are, as the rambuctious kids say, "cooking".

>>583895469
Makes sense, he doesn't seem surprised to see him in the Temple of Chaos. He does look annoyed when Rouge tries to play him.

>>583895545
It w?
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>>583895374
Crossworld world cup, crossworld new patch, crossword new characters
The rest is up in the air
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>>583895226
Gamma is fucking dead.
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>>583895469
>Shadow was recovered by GUN and Gerald was made to continue
*working on him from Prison Island. Gerald did not "block Maria memories". This isn't in the game or any supplemental material. All material states Shadow's own grief is what blocked his memories, which is thematically consistent with SA1, 06 ans every other 2000s game.

>>583895545
>Even in previous material it w
*we are told it was a build up of incidents and Biolizard rampage was the last straw. The idea it was because of the Black Arms is incorrect. They either knew and capitulated or didn't ever find out save for Abe.
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>>583895381
Wrong. He tampered with Shadow’s memories to get him to agree.
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>>583859042
Hello Kitty
One Piece
Fortnite
Surge and Kit
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>>583895781
Does that mean that Shadow never had time to grieve and was frozen right after his capture, while Geralt worked on a sleeping hedgehog?

>>583895798
I agree with this, because Shadow's actions at first are quite robotic and feel unnatural. He gets more and more natural as he thaws. Even his text when Eggman frees him feels like something he learned by heart.
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>>583888880
But enough about Tails.
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>>583895714
The birdie inside him is with Amy in last story. Fun fact!
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>>583896063
>DX
Shit fact.
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>>583895798
There is literally no evidence of this. It's just a thing made up to woobify him in the 2010s when everyone was making fun of him for being an edgelord.
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I thought Lost Colony having no experiments as enemies was a cool detail.
>>583895286
>Also Eggman prefers his servants to be machines since they are programmed to be completely loyal to him
Is there a source for that? Like a character profile? Honestly asking.
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>>583896141
DX > DC
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>>583896063
Which isn’t Gamma.
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>>583896449
>posts Sonic Adventure
Ahh, that's better.
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>>583896476
It's complicated
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dammit why is Maria so cute
why do I still want to spank her
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What's with Sonic fans and not being able to handle minimal villains that are actually villains? Is this what they say about all this edge but no point?
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>>583896552
Nice emblem rewards, camera controls, Chao Garden, Overworld Map and Missions, DCcoper
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>>583896552
>that ugly transparency error
How does Sega fuck up ports this consistently?
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Never expected the Mario and Sonic famdoms to return to war.
I guess the Olympic games license dying also meant Mario and Sonic's relationship ended too.
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>>583896642
>Thinking one fan opinion represents the general opinion of the fandom
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Powerscaling is stupid. Mario dies to a Goomba.
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>>583896642
>What's with Sonic fans
Just fans of things on the internet now in general, Sonic fans are just a big example due to kids often becoming Sonic fans and then being influenced by others. Even other, more serious series now have fans that'd write things like that post or call the artist weird.
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>>583895286
>Omelette is Bowser Jr levels of unoriginal
I don't disagree, but she still fits Eggman more than sage
>Also Eggman prefers his servants to be machines
He is routinely getting Gods and mutants to do his biding
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>>583896565
It’s very simple. The bird was a power source, not a pilot in a mecha. Gamma is dead.
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>>583896903
This is just a consequences of English teachers believing they're geniuses for deciding that the only reason the curtains are described as blue is because the author is depressed.
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>>583896631
Because she has a fat butt.
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>>583896823
>One
Most replies are pic related. Rape is the worst possible sin someone can do
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>>583897038
Yes.

>>583897080
I'd say it's stealing one's soul, personally.
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>>583893939
>Amyfags are under the illusion that every character in the series exists to fawn over Amy.
Not EVERY character. Eggman, Rouge, Omega, The Chaotix, Clutch, Rough & Tumble, Kit and Fang, Black Doom, Gun Commander, etc don't and arent expected to.

Personally i prefer it when it's Metal can be a cold-blooded killing machine. But he has a soft spot for Amy because he wants to prove he is the real Sonic.
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>>583896962
The where did the memory of the photo with Gamma bird's family in Gamma's registry come from? Why does Gamma consider it "saving" the E-Series to take them out?
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>>583897080
desu I don't disagree, Rape ultimately leaves a lasting impact on the person involved compared to murder. (newer) Sonic Fans are just so used to villains that are drooling toddlers and at most punch hard, that the moment one comes along that is more morally evil then "Oooooh I'm a little rat selling weapons", they start freaking out when they can't find a reason to actively like a character. It's just a thing in current media that everybody has to be morally grey and has to have a genuine reason for being evil, because woe we can't have somebody burn down an orphanage without wanting to play on da playground anymore.
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>>583896691
Kek, it gets worse.
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>>583896642
>why do people get upset at a depiction of a heroin getting fucked by some evil faggot with no control over her body
because most individuals aren't desensitized to fucked up shit like you, anon-kun
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Goomba vs Motobug
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SA1fags don't care about SA1s gameplay or story. Only it's aesthetics.
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>>583897707
Damn you're projecting like crazy.
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>>583897879
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>>583897741
Motobug steamrolls. Literally
>inb4 some shitter brings up partygame chainscaling and bowsers minions bullshit.
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>>583897879
>Only it's aesthetics
Its. Not it's.
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>>583897707
You don't get the same response from the fanbase with, let's say, Sonic bleeding all over after a fight with Eggmans and half his limbs missing. Society is extremely weak to sexual themes at the same time as they complain about not enough blood, gore for hype moments.
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>>583897894
>have no answer
>"umm, UMMMM... PROJECTING!!!"
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>>583897651
Genuinely how did DX rape the lighting that hard?
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>>583898029
ok, I'm coming over to rape you now. I expect you to be mature about it.
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Club Chaos today!!!
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>>583895714
Chaos Gamma.
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>>583898008
Autocorrect changes it on its own for some reason. I had to correct it manually in this very post.
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>>583898120
I would prefer to be raped than lose a limb
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>>583898158
Its 2026 and Sonic Team never fixed Chaos' design because they forgot the nub is actually because he is missing his tail.
Things that keep me up at night.
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>>583898116
SA1 relied a lot on Dreamcast's hardware for many things. It was also deemed a bit archaic-looking then. So when they decided to rerelease it, they might have wanted to update the graphics and change the art direction, but it went disastrously in spite of how much they redone, and a lot of their polish seemed to focus on making Emerald Coast look good above other stages. Earliest images of DX looked like Dreamcast but with some effects broken, instead. When DX got a cheap PC port, it broke things even more. Then they poorly ported it later based on that port, and broke things further.
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wolves…
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>>583895374
According to what Iizuka said last month, definitely something that isn't
>another Classic 2D game
>another Modern 3D Sonic
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>>583898215
That's weird.
Am I wrong and it's actually "it's"?
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>>583898508
Anon, the only thing he denied was remakes
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>>583893606
an odd thing is somehow soleanna gems look exactly like sol emeralds so i don't even think it's a case of them not knowing her backstroy from rush. there's enough material for the ''actually after she sealed iblis and solaris got erased the dimension she sealed to became a dimension made in the image/remains of soleanna from the previous timeline'' to hold water beyond it being shipfag or 06 defender schizo'ing. i don't think it was their initial intention and it definitely isn't what they are going for nowadays but in the final released product it's what someone unbiased from character/ship/era/game fagging will understand from the story most of the time.
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>>583898576
No, I think companies are updating their shit via AI models and it's fucking things up.
But that's just a theory
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ok but does the red chaos emerald taste like strawberries or cherry?
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>>583896642
E10+ franchise btw
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>>583893606
>06 messes with the CE lore too since it says Elise had one of the seven for most of her life, so most of the series couldn't have happened in the original timeline (tho I guess that got erased).
06 having Elise obtain one on childhood and it looping until the game ends doesnt affect how the emeralds exist in other games. Why would it?
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Ok but when are we going to get boys being raped?
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>>583898724
It probably doesn't taste like anything, but the color is usually closer to cherry than strawberry.
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>>583898724
Red Chaos Emerald is strawberry, the Red Sol Emerald is cherry.
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>>583898029
''non-con'' or sexual implications get more discomfort from the viewer than gore in american culture. combine that with blaze being generally a more overprotected character in fanbase due to being waifufag coolgirl type + ''misogyny'' virtue signalling being a hot topic.
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>>583898847
issue 92 after CHADper tears through KEKwood's second rate boss mech
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>>583893826
Yes it was.
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Club Chaos schedule
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>>583898724
It tastes like blood, which itself tastes like chocolate milk, or rather chocolate milk is an a goyslop imitation of the flavor of blood we instinctively would seek out in nature
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>>583897329
Dumb robot stuff. They’ve said multiple times that Gamma is dead.
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>>583898210
Is not Gamma.
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>>583899312
So basically, only Crossworlds news
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Stinky mobian pussy
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>>583863480
That’s basically what happened for several issues. Issue 50 was just Sonic demolishing Surge, mocking her suffering, and leaving her for dead. He softens up to her after finding out her backstory but I’d hardly say he’s nice to her now.
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Is Drogune popular yet?
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>>583863480
When did Sonic ever wail on an opponent like that?
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I did some digging and the people pushing for evil Sonic are all Outcome memories fans. We are being replaced in real time. Hold the gates. Don't let illegal alphies in the fandom or we will face the consequences
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>>583899968
>We are being replaced in real time
It needs to happen faster
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Surge and Sonic be like (he is thinking about Eggman again)
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>>583897879
SA2*
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>>583899968
Ah. They’re all grooming victims. It’s sad to see JC’s influence has gotten this bad.
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>>583900414
Malfoid is 10 times better than bucket girl.
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>>583900575
what did Jesus Christ ever do to you?
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>>583886693
We already fixed it multiple times Blazetard.
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>>583899518
Yes but Gamma and the bird are symbolically and mutually connected even when he was alive.
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>>583898116
If only you knew how bad things really were.
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>>583898654
Maybe I word it wrong but he said that they're focusing on 3D Modern and 2D Classic but also Classic being a support branch for the 3D Modern "pillar".
This honestly fucking sucks, i was hoping they could give Classic a break, until Evening Star comes back, and they can use what they learn on a proper Advance/Rush successor game.

But this just means we're getting another shitty Superstars type of Classic game and unnecessary 2D segments in the next game because of Iizuka autism.
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>>583900424
DCkek...
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>>583896642
Just people in general
Just like nothing can include Deathstroke because he's a pedo
Just like Bear can't be in Fortnite because he's a rapist
But same people will kindly accept killers in the same products
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>>583898724
brimstone
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>>583896263
The fact that all his servants are machines should make it very obvious
And everytime a living person had worked with Eggman it didn't last, either he betrayes them or they betrayed him
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>>583886292
Blaze's dimension is not a literal mirror to Sonic's.
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>>583899645
But anon, you gotta wait tonight like those SEGA grifters said!!
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>>583899774
Nope
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>>583901217
So Blaze is a fraud and her emeralds are washed.
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>>583896642
>>583896903
Sonic fans are worse than average on this, I can't even blame children in the fandom for this. Children love fucked up child killers in FNAF, children love Deltarune's implied reindeer girl SA, but children in the Sonic fandom have panic attacks at the implications of a bad guy doing bad guy things, like evil fucked up shit was never present in a Batman cartoon or fucking Adventure Time. Sonic fans are actual babies even compared to other fandoms.
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>>583901429
>children love Deltarune's implied reindeer girl SA
Didn't some people get mad at that and caused the developer to change it a few times just to get rid of the implication?
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>>583862976
>Super Sonic struggling against BASE Mario
Sonicbros....
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>>583901401
That's not what he said.
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>>583900703
Not that JC.
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>>583901429
a fanabase like Deltarune would have someone lynched for "problematic" art on a bad day. Every reaction I have seen on this fanart is people understandably going "oh hey this is dark", including that screenshot, and leaving it at that. Quit jerking yourself off because you're oh so less bothered by edgy art you fucking retard.
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>>583901528
The implication is still there but with better symbology because the context is still rape just in a mindrape way
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>>583887120
>Amy with backspines
>Amy with yoga pants
>Amy with a bean nose

Knux is fine imo since Nakuru doesnt work in English. Unless you wanna go with Knuck instead.
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>>583887164
Cute Rouge outfit!
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>>583901738
that fanart was deleted from the sonic reddit because one guy was crying over it
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>>583901676
That's what you said yes, Blaze is not a Sonic equal, she's just another Sally knockoff with super powers, Her emeralds don't give unlimited power but very limited ones
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>>583901401
Always was and always have been.
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>>583902164
>Blaze is not a Sonic equal
She is.
>she's just another Sally knockoff
She's not.
>Her emeralds don't give unlimited power but very limited ones
Citation.
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>>583902036
That's usually how the Sonic series has been for decaded. If enough people cry and whine about something, they'll change it just to please those people
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>>583902036
>reddit
well there's your mistake
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>>583902164
That anon isn't me. I just said Blaze's dimension is not a literal alt version of Sonic's because it isn't.
Blaze is not an alt Sonic from another dimension the way say Scourge is in Archie.
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>>583901217
Yeah i know, but even if it was, shadow or silver having sol counterparts make no sense.
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>IDW 91 released early at NYCC
>Silver defeats Blackwood (for now)
>Silver and Blaze blush at each other
>Dapple ships them
MELTDOWN INCOMING
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>>583902246
>>583902461
You can to talk to each other then, Blaze is a fraud or a bum, you decide
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Every time before you post on 4chan ask: What would Sonic do?
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>>583902726
Did you actually read it?
at least the sonazefag cope looming around blaze reddit is going to die once and for all if true.
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>>583902726
BASED DAPPLE!
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>>583902726
>spoiling the whole issue
WOW THANK ASSHOLE
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>>583902847
>goes outside to have a walk
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>>583902653
This is why I never seen the appeal in Cream as a character and just find her redundant
The only thing she has going for her is "cute polite little girl" and that's it. She has no real dynamic with the rest of the cast that isn't just taken from Amy
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That was a great Amy thread on /v/, I'm proud of you all
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>>583902726
No way this monthly shit released like 22 days beforehand
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>>583902854
Sonazefags are mentally ill and always havr been. I remember they eould shit up these boards for years.
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>>583902726
Who cares about a ship involving an official game character and somebody's random OC?
Literal fanfiction tier
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>>583901528
>some people
Same people seething over every fotm?
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>>583903003
>amy thread
Why wasnt I invited?!?!?
Also I thought mods autobanned Amy threads?
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>>583903172
It got trashed now, but it lasted for over 300 replies
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>>583903038
I don't care about sonazefags existing or winning a ship war really, it's just that reddit comment and discussions literally just the same 3-5 sonazefags having melty at random silvazefags they saw on corners of internet and circlejerking about it while they turn off the majority of other people.
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>>583903034
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>>583903198
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>>583901005
Sonic Adventure still feels like the best controlling 3D game in the franchise. Sonic feels weighty and easy to steer—it’s the most tightly controllable.
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>>583903302
I was wondering why OP skipped ahead..guess it's right.
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I still dont know what does "Sonic DNA" mean
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>>583896063
Do you think gamma should return?
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>>583903289
And back in the day when they camped the board, they would basically disrupt and attack everyone for even talking about anything involving her in 06 and shit on every other chatacter and insist the whole series should revolve around their ship in a similar manner.
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Evan Stanley got away with it...
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>>583903107
Probably.
>>583903462
It does have the issue of being too easy to control compared to 2D games, though. The player has way more air control, the spindash can be spammed. SA2 and later games tried to fix this while keeping things fun to varying results.
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>>583903559
they hired some meme bioengineering company to put a petri dish in the statue with whatever they deemed was the closest approximation to "sonic's dna" possible. What did they actually put in, you ask? For all you and I know they might have as well just asked someone to spit in it.
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>>583903579
I would like if Pink Birdie came back or we got to see what became of Birdie and its family in the future rather than Gamma himself coming back. I appreciate Ian coming up with the idea for Prime.
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Cute & Canon!
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>>583903602
they also attacked amy and rouge in 2010s more than they attacked silver anyway and now they are tryting to virtuesignalfag lol. its petty of me but ill celebrate or laugh about it if the mutual blush makes it in 91.
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>>583869367
I bet Windii won't translate this.
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>>583903462
Sonic Adventure is loose and Sonic's jump feels like an animation instead of am actual jump.
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>>583903105
The cutest rapist!
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>>583903959
>Sonic's jump feels like an animation
What does that even mean?
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>>583904004
He's just saying words.
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>>583903823
Same. Tired of these shitters.
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>>583894757
Excuse me, but I'm trying to share that with a friend, and he asked me if you have a source. Where did you get that from, is there a blog somewhere that compares the translations?
Also FUCKING HELL the wikis are full of shit to an impressive degree.
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>>583904004
>>583904031
In some games, tour jump isn't actually your character moving into the air, but instead the model animating to make it look like your character is jumping. That's how SA1 feels. His jump arc feels like his animation is just playing and scraping against an invisible ceiling whenever he jumps. It has a very unnatural arc as a result. And by that I mean it doesnt really feel like it has an arc.
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>>583904253
It's literally just a schixo theory that's been debunked for years but refuses to die because some people think its cool or whatever.
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girlfailure Blaze is the only characterization that still works for her
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>don't worry Blaze, I will protect you from this evil rapi-ACK
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>>583904108
Just realized cream,marine,silver all get compared to amy lol. i don't actually like blaze and amy dynamic as much as i like some other dynamics iwth either amy or blaze but it's interesting.
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>>583904574
Because Blaze is reliant on someone sunnier to push her out of her comfort zone. She is kind of a brick character-wise if you don't.
>i don't actually like blaze and amy dynamic as much as i like some other dynamics iwth either amy or blaze
Why's that?
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>>583902726
I still love Blackwood, even if he loses.
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>>583903959
>>583904303
I don't like how floaty it is and the air drag. Better Physics mod do fix this by giving Sonic's jump more weight and no air drag. It was weird to get used to but now I can't go back to the original physics
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>>583904108
>Blazeshitter
Just call them Blazetendie
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>>583904885
he just can't compete against Tanabata
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>>583904458
But Blazecels hate it when you bring that stuff up because it "ruins" their waifu.
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>>583895381
More of a meta thing but i thought it was cool how Biolizard was like the spirit of gerald not being able to move on haunting the ark in those cutscenes.
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>>583887164
I saw the rainbow crew flipping out about this one yesterday.
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>>583904968
I like Sonic Boom's Eggman. He's completely shit as a villain because he's neither scary nor threatening, but as an antagonist, he's very fun.

>>583905075
I had that little headcanon that Gerald manipulated the Biolizard's memories to make him furious at people in general, so he's an incarnation of Gerald's spite, in a way.
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>>583904865
I'm not sure why myself maybe because of the fanbase it seems a bit forced/cliche, but i don't dislike it either.
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>>583904108
>bothered by underendowed chest
Let me give you a big hug. Flatties and chestlets deserve affection too.
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>>583894393
Omelette was horrible
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>>583902726
>Silver defeats Blackwood (for now)
All according to keikaku*
*TL= keikaku means plan
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>>583902726
>Blackwood is free
Thank God
I can finally rape him myself.
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>>583904108
I kinda feel bad for them now lol.
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>>583905061
Blazefags don't know what they want
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Infinite returns in #100
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>>583894393
This was Sage 2.0 before it was a thing, just a rehashed concept fan retards keep trying to push so badly
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>>583891368
It's amazing how easy Amy is to understand unless you're Ian Flynn.
>>583903003
I never know when these are happening. Not even sure who you're proud of since no one here probably even knew about it.
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>>583905546
>It's amazing how easy Amy is to understand unless you're Ian Flynn.
I accept your challenge. Explain Amy's character in... let's say fifty words or less?
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>>583905000
Learn your history, Silverfag. Blazeshitters were a long and storied part of /sthg/ history
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>>583905652
>>583905652
>>583905652
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>>583905634
Nah, Blazetendies were a better nickname for Rush/Dimps purists.
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>>583905075
Ive seen people speculate that it might have been literal. Some people believe he uploaded himself into Biolizard or something.

Either way, yeah that was the intention of Biolizard as a boss. Shadow let go but Gerald's spite lives on and he must confront it. And in that way Shadow is confronting his own as well.
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Eggman was never Archie Eggman. Sage didn't change anything.
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>>583905442
To be the main character.
>>583905419
I guess it is kind of pitiable.
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>>583905630
In love with love. Loves Sonic more than anything and anyone. Sonic inspires her to be like him. Loves adventure, hates boredom. Shares her overflowing love with others, even enemies. Tough, passionate, excitable, headstrong, and brave. Protects those who can't protect themselves. Loves baking and boxercising. Big fucking hammer. Based.
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>>583905815
This



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