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Are there any "must have" mods for Warhammer 3?
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I miss Thanquolanon...
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GRAND CATHAY
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>>583868691
I miss krellposter friendposting
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>>583868471
Should've let it burn and the avatarfag with it.
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>>583868661
Skip Intro
Hide Twitch Icon
No More White Pixels (for the corner white pixel, thanks CA!)
Community Bug Fix v9
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>>583868780
Feisty today, huh?
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Is 5 Jezzails, 8 ratlings and 5 clanrats a good comp for ikit
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>>583868661
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3557166318

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789858755

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3007996493
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>>583868661
in terms of just making the game actual look better: refurbished gun smoke and spectacle, distinct faction towers, warhammer 1 texture update project and model fixes, warhammer 3 visual bug fixes, unique faction ui, wh3 lod distance enhanced and finally ultimate lighting (FUCK the ugly ass DoF CA slaps on the battle maps)
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>>583868661
Can't play without OvN Lost World. It's just so damn sad when I look at vanilla city models now.
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>>583869028
No, that sucks. You gotta bring artillery otherwise you get outranged, some plague priests for vermintide and mortars that can actually fire into your own units. The clanrats are dead weight here.
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So is this Nefarata Long campaign victory impossible or how hard is it to establish covens in china and altdorf simultaneously
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I have never even read the victory conditions.
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>>583868898
>>583869106
>>583869114
>>583869184
Thanks bros, I'll take a look at these in a bit. Finally got the game to actually launch after spending the whole day trying yesterday
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>playan eltharion
>his generic red line doesnt buff his mistwalkers
>a single tech to buff his units
>+10 matk/mdef , and two slots for interrogation that gets removed if you kill the faction

>played elspeth
>her generic red line can buff her exclusive units
>technology can buff her units
>her faction mechanic has multiple buffs to her exclusive units

and then i have to fight a fullstack skarbrand before turn10 as eltharion
im crying
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>>583870604
Get fugged, elgi.
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>tfw dark elves were much more civilized and less cartoonishly evil in the old lore
Even their unit names were different:
Like "REAPER bolt thrower" was just "repeater bolt thrower"
Shades were "scouts"
Darkshards were just called "crossbowmen"
etc.
I kind of like it more since I can at least imagine old Naggaroth to be a real place where real people would exist and live
Later Naggaroth's mere existence shatters all suspension of disbelief, it's cruel and brutal to the point of being retarded
Shame. Maybe I'd actually give Dark elves a go if they were their old selves in the game.
Look, they even had colour!
and big boobies!
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>>583870604
>im crying
Yes, but Elspeth campaign is a snoozefest after 20 turns due to all the overbuffing, and Eltharion's campaign after 20 turns just means you survived the early game.
It's great.
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loli
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>>583868725
More like trans trannay
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>>583871149
That's a fucking T-rex..
And she has the mark of khorne on her hat..
And I think a Karanak bra..
What is happening?
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>>583871149
EXODITES
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>583871440
Well t-rex is a lizard. They ride lizards, don't they?
And in the VERY old lore dark elves flirted with chaos gods much more than now. So, they worshipped Khorne thinking he's the same deal as Khaine or something.
The only remaining part of this now is Morathi being a Slaaneshi slut.
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>>583869189
Well shit, i sailed to the donut with that comp. I guess i am big reatrd
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>>583871418
Silence, sissy.
>>583871637
Sure they have cold ones but that's just a t-rex head.
Isn't that still a thing in the lore where they pray to khorne without knowing it? I thought that was still there..
>>583871786
I mean it's doable but it's gonna suck real bad.
You don't have the issue with being outranged against elves but without artillery the sieges are gonna be awful.
The clanrats will still just be dead weight.
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>>583870604
Elgi tears taste as sweet as ever. Surprising he got left behind considering Tyrion and Aislinn got updates along with the entire Helf gameplay. Then again, it's still buggy as hell
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Is the Skaven Under-Empire mechanic useless? Feels like it tears through food and gold regardless.
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Time to go looking for that crown...
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>>583873024
It's a balancing act between what you want and what you're prioritizing. You aren't supposed to go 4/4 slots unlike Trickster cults because trickster cults are changeling's only settlement type. You basically expand the undercity for a bit then build either hunt or gold buildings to recoup food and get income.

Either way, you get tons of food fighting in WH3 with how close settlements are
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>>583873024
It's the only way to get food you retard.
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>>583873024
When you get it for free via rites it's okay
But it's dogshit beyond that
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>>583873024
I just build + food and spread
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>>583873024
Changeling is what happens when you make under empire good but hes cheating at a level that makes him not be playing total war to begin with
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>>583873169
>>583873189
>>583873252
>>583873371
Damn I added a bunch of under empires for no reason then while trying to build tall and sacking. Think I'll just quit this campaign and play something else.
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>>583873230
Damn you suck at total war.
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>>583873624
I got the legendary cheevo, doe???
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The decline of /twg/ continues without legend..
Now they collectively believe under empires to be useless and feed beginners those lies..
There is no more hope for this general. It must be purged.
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Reminder me in 30 days to cancel my free Amazon prime please, buying Total War Art book
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Should I boughted Three Kingdoms on sale or wait for Shogun 2 Complete (I haven't played either)?
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>>583874079
I own 3k and still havent played it much maybe it needs the dlc to be good
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>>583874079
idk hth
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what does hth mean? why do you guys say it so much here ? ?
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>>583874079
three kingdoms has more hot chicks, shogun 2 has better battles. take your pick
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https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1x1bim4/my_boyfriend_loves_total_war_warhammer_but_hates/
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>>583874176
>three kingdoms has more hot chicks
Sold.
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>>583874618
Oh c'mon.. that's just ragebait..
"Should we break up".. and they play the 2 most boring factions imaginable and wonder why the dude hates battles..
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>>583874079
3k is much better. Shogun 2 is very simplistic and primitive. The most casual game in series. It makes it very boring

Also 3k has Dawn of War 2 style Last Stand game mode, that surprised me
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>>583874880
>and they play the 2 most boring factions imaginable
Xhe didn't mention Cathay and Khorne thoughbeit
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>>583875015
I admire your attempt to exploit my anger but I cannot be angered.

At least play fucking elspeth to get actual mechanics and a lazer dragon. Boris is fucking trash.
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>>583874618
>>583874880
Empire has good battles. Kislev, not so much
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why isn't bretonnia allowed to be reworked?
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>>583875682
Mein Neger.. BORIS.. fuck you mean good battles? It's melee moshpits with beastmen.
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>>583873556
It's fine, just delete buildings you aren't using. Sacking and conquering are better than undercity expansions though unless it's in uninhabitable land. Skaven can deal with yellow malus just fine but you need a pretty well off PO race like dwarves or high elves to deal with red locations
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>>583875717
Because it's a FLC. Entirety of Bretonnia was FLC.
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>>583875780
This shitass opinion would at least be slightly understandable if you weren't also a fucking Khorne player, the boring melee moshpit faction. Boris at least gets the rest of the extremely varied Empire roster.
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>>583875780
You don't fight only Beastmemes, holding Middenland is also kino, it's a great map. Also, Boris has great Frontline and Cav, so you get to have more value out of artillery or guns. He's probably got the most roster variety out of the entire empire
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>>583875932
I don't play Khorne, I play Skarbrand. Arbaal is okay but I won't play him again. Skulltaker is straight up filth. Aborted on turn 2, never doing that again.
If you can't enjoy moving Skarbrand around but somehow like pathetic Boris then you have issues. Skarbrand himself is infinite fun.
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why do slaanesh units all look so fucking stupid
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>>583876090
You play Skarbrand, which is a Khorne faction you retard. A Khorne faction that is the definition of melee moshpit. If Boris is one note I don't know how you're coping about Khorne being anything other than a snoozefest.
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>>583876185
Ignore the passnigger, he's retarded troon and he wants everyone to know this.
When will you people learn.
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Neffymumma...
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>>583875717
>>583875839
I thought Brett already got one rework, even if it sucked.
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>>583876094
Because since around 2010s, the Slaanesh faction was rebranded and started to be designed to appeal to gays and transvestites.
There's plenty of straight man coded reskins on the workshop tho.
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>>583876094
cause looking sexy is no bueno you chud
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>>583876094
BDSM but purple. Slaaneshi Chaos Warriors are fabulous though, as are chariots. Likely the only good Slaaneshi units
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>>583876415
Looking sexy is alright as long as it's some degenerate gay/transgender shit.
Yes, the west is doomed.
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>>583876185
How is this so complicated for you. If Skarbrand wasn't there, I wouldn't touch Khorne.
The moshpit the bloodletters do are not the gameplay. They are just a necessary thing. The actual gameplay is Skarbrand.
If you play boris, you have no fucking gameplay. The dude is useless, his army moshpits. That's it.
A zombie moshpit is fun cause you get to blast shit with busted spells and giggle over the mortis engine farming 200k damage while reviving your stuff.
Boris doesn't fucking do anything and he fights beastmen who also don't fucking do anything.
>>583875959
Variety.. I've seen all of /twg/ play Boris and it's always 19x melee.
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>>583875812
Wasted 10 turns rearranging this isn't worth it anymore. Potentially more turns considering waste of gold and actions before that. Will just do another campaign until I forget about the time wasted on this.
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>>583876465
Pleasureseekers are good
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>>583876552
If you play a faction for one lord and not the army itself you really are the exact goycattle the press button to win factions are designed for.
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That reminds me, I can't find a reskin for Boris that makes him look like he was looking pre-DLC.
I liked it better. If you guys can share, I'd appreciate it.
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>>583876691
No
Look at this tho
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>>583876650
Eh... I'm not sold on them but Slaaneshi is far from my favorite race. Especially in comparison to Khorne or Tzeentch
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>>583876663
My first ever addiction was Ikit claw.
I'm also a great Tamurkhan fan. Before him I hated Nurgle. Now I love em. Kugath still ass tho.
Watch me click doomrocket button and coom from excitement.

I don't see a challenge as something fun. I used to always play on the hardest difficulties in all my vidya but I realized that shit sucks. I'd rather comfy play, get wasted, have fun.
A /twg/ guy gifted me Stellar Blade not long ago. It's one of those boss challenge games and the last boss I just quit on.. set it to easy mode and blasted him cause I'm not here to learn your stupid game.
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>>583876849
That makes him a giant.
And it's too exaggerated design-wise.
Not what I'm looking for.
I just want Boris without his stupid orange beard.
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>>583876552
When I play Boris I like a cool Frontline of 4 Trust and 4 Wolfkin, 2-3 priests, and a wizard, and then 3 ranged, 2 panthers, and a volley gun. Emil is extremely overpowered at killing infantry so I find I don't need artillery or guns for infantry, just big units and SEMs. Ideally if I wanted more ranged or more cool units if drop the wolf kin entirely and let priests handle all the infantry killing
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>>583876967
>I used to always play on the hardest difficulties in all my vidya but I realized that shit sucks. I'd rather comfy play, get wasted, have fun.
Based ideals...
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>>583876967
Sounds like you're looking for validation for being shit.
You can be shit, not everyone is born equal after all and it's okay, but it's not something you should brag about.
It's not healthy.
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>>583876967
cute boy
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>>583877176
>>583875184
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>>583876967
Based bro.This doesn't mean leaning into the extremes of playing on journalism mode but means you can ignore "you didn't beat the game" crowd either. The latter is what causes fighting games and RTSes to grow stagnant anyways.
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>>583877295
>This doesn't mean leaning into the extremes of playing on journalism mode
He literally said he plays on fucking easy mode in Stellar Blade lmao, which isn't exactly a hard game.
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>>583877295
Gatekeeping and competitive mindset is what keeps gaming communities healthy.
When shitters and tourists infiltrate en masse, it turns to garbage extremely quickly.
Same can be said about this site btw, but it seems like it's already a bit late and 'participation trophy' crowd already broke the gates.
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>>583877240
Silence
Is not penis
>>583877295
You reminded me of elden ring general.. my god man..
I played that game for some 700hrs so I was in that thread on release for a while. The amount of bitch fighting and pissing themselves these anons did was asinine.
>NOOO U USED MAGIC IM BETTER THAN YOU
>YOU DIDNT BEAT THE GAME U USED RIVERS OF CUM
.. and it wasn't even shit posting. They were getting angry as fuck.
I always just overleveled the bosses by throwing night cavs off bridges.. and I loved invading noobs with rot breath and poison nagakiba.. good times.
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>>583876410
>2010s
>Rebranded
Zoom zoom.
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>>583877750
More worried about devs listen to certain groups. Go into "E for Everyone" and no one is happy unless its sort of made to be that way, like Stardew Valley. Listen to a vocal minority, like pvpers in most mmorpgs or people super concered with meta play, and the game starts becoming No Fun Allowed even in single player games like Binding of Isaac or sometimes even RPGs.

How many people here bitched hard whenever they nerfed units solely for versus play reasons.
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>Mfw I get 3 ambushes in a row without save-scumming with non-sneaky faction.
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>>583878094
It's already happening. I mean have you looked at AAA games over the past decade? Cum on ledges everywhere so the player knows he can climb when he sees cum.
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>>583877750
>Is not penis
With asians i feel like you never know for sure
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Want to play Thanquol and try out his plan mechanic
>Violent urge to kill rats constantly in the forefront of my mind making it miserable
I just finished a dawi campaign...
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>>583872263
Nah Khaine is quite distinct as his own god in Fantasy, to the point that Malekith mandates worship of him as a way to ensure chaos worship doesn't catch on (It still does a little thanks to Morathi, but the slaaneshi cultists she fosters have to stay on the down low.)
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>>583878498
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>>583878708
Whats stopping you from killing rats with rats
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Skarbrandio lost Gullichad btw
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>>583879187
Lost at living for 40k years?
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Increasing units' stats is not strategy and should be removed.
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>>583854169
thanks anon
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>>583879898
I agree. The rot set in with Shogun and veterancy. 26 years of fucking up the game!
Instead the game should be entirely based around esports balance.

All fighting on a flat plane and all stats identical with equal number of 'troops'. No horses no artillery. No ranged weapons. Just a bunch of squares smashed into each other.

Finally, we will have a game for the trve vundertsanders like us.
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>>583869184
>Can't play without OvN Lost World.
Thanks for this
Just booted up the map with this mod on, the settlement looks SO much better
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>>583876849
I prefer the retarded castle helmet and his current appearance
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>>583868898
>Community Bug Fix v9
You can actually use this with current patch? I just get a crash on startup with this
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>>583877295
Nta but imo at least now that I'm actually good at strategies and battles I don't enjoy easy mode, and while hard campaign is sometimes a headache it's more engaging than playing in a difficulty where a shitstack can AR a high tier army.

Maybe I'm built to be a multiplayerfag. Either way, I recognize that for most games difficulty is sort of just for my personal enjoyment but imo there are some games where absolutely the game is best at higher difficulties, like DMC. At least for total war, as long as you manually fight the battles it doesn't matter too much
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>>583879187
He's honestly so perfect I think it warps around to being lame. I don't know how to feel about him
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Are Bretonnian hero vows broken? I am playing as Fay and am about to get attacked by the Morghur. Beating him completes my Questing vow for my Lord and reinforcing Lord but not my hero. I'm autoresolving if that matters. Anyone knows what's happening?
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I for one, love the chinese
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>>583880141
Veterancy should be the only way.
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>>583880783
Look at this cheating fag and laugh.
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>>583879187
Erm but if this happened Skarbrand would have been permakilled by the emperor's sword
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>>583876356
Is it me or does the head look a little too big?
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what makes spirit leech 'strong vs characters' when the stats for melkoth has higher dps
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>Try out the Gacha mod that the passfag loves
>First gacha roll on my Ikit campaign
>This woman
This woman will be leading my rat army

Passfag you're a bad influence
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>>583881818
hot
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>>583881572
If you spirit leeched a 2 model unit it would do half the damage to each model (or whatever the formula is)
If you miasma 100 models or 16 models it would still be doing the same damage to each model
As for the dps numbers on a single target well um uhhh
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>>583880676
Base Dechala is hotter than that, just increase the tit size.
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>>583881572
Isn't Spiriti Leech guaranteed DPS while Melkoth's is on a chance per tick system like FINAL TRANSMUTATION
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You telling me we could be getting Egrimm and a chaos dragon sorcerer LL to fill out Tzeentch a bit more but instead they're just glazing China by adding Sun Wukong to Warhammer?
Cathay is kind of entertaining to play and I like the dragons but they're just so boring in comparison to the stuff that's missing and Bhashiva was a complete miss.
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>>583882634
>MONKEY king will be the paid lord
>EGRIMMchad will be no effort DLC
brehs...
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>>583882634
Cathay and Kislev don't feel like they need more but when you compare them to the absolute excess of HELF lords I kind of get it. That being said they basically have everything already except the few parts they're supposed to be bad at like
>Cavalry
For Cathay or
>Artillery
For Kislev
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>>583881572
spirit leech has a 100% to damage a model and 1 model at a time
melkoth's has a 50% to damage a model and can damage a maximum of 16 models at a time
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You telling me we could be getting YinYin and other dragon sorcerer LL to fill out Cathay a bit more but instead they're just glazing Americans by adding a green lard golem to Warhammer?
Cathay is extremely entertaining to play and I Love the dragons, they're just so cool in comparison to the stuff we got. At least Bhashiva was amazing.
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>>583882875
I'm guessing the damage per tick is also much lower on Melkoth's also
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>>583881572
Who is Melkoth
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>>583883045
yes but you have to remember that it is hitting a bunch of models at once, so the dps is higher than spirit leech
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>spending 5-6 turns beelining back to where you start as nakai to prevent a tranny backdooring you

Annoying campaign.
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>>583882984
>Cathay had a strong theme focusing on yin/yang synergy
>Release a lord and a set of units that DON'T adhere to that but also are strong damage infantry and skirmish hybrid infantry, making the roster less unique
Why?
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>>583882875
would be nice to know thats how it works, but i guess putting 'strong vs units 25 or more entities' is good enough
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You telling me we could be getting Bohemond and foot knights to fill out Bretonnia a bit more but instead they're just glazing literally everyone else by adding power creep mechanics to the game?
OP lords are kind of entertaining to play and I like winning but they're just so boring in comparison to fighting tooth and nail as a disadvantaged but rewarding faction.
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>>583883225
Nakai goes where he pleases. Just don't lose your main army He's kind of shit to play even in WH2
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>>583883225
Is there a mod that lets me see when I get debuffed or whatever in campaign? For some reason I could only move from the bottom right corner to where I am in this picture, no hero action in the history tab.

>>583883351
You're still dependant on your vassal, right? They can't do shit. So you're forced to protect it.
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>>583881572
>>583881953
I hate how poorly explained this is in game. I kind of get it after what I've read on it, but is there no good explanation somewhere?
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>>583883531
Not really, CA expects you to know all the knowledge from their nearly 3 decade old series and apply it to their games
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>>583883436
Your vassal is just there to recruit more armies I think
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>>583883293
twwstats tells you exactly how each spell works how it exactly works is
every 1 second theres a 50% chance that it will deal 3 damage to 25 models over 13 seconds for 975 damage, meaning you need to hit a 50 model unit to get the max dps
whereas spirit leech has a 50% chance every 1 second that it will deal 50 damage to 1 model at a over 13 second, so you average 325 against sem and 650 against anything with more than 1 model
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>>583883259
>make unique new units
>now is less unique
Damn anon, what warpstone are you smoking? Gimme some of that!
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>>583883436
>Lizardmanii fighting THE Infantry Blender
Wow, I don't envy your position. Nakai himself is kind of weak for a lord of his type. What is he even good for?
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>>583883341
the rework will just be added foot knights (no new models needed!), vows and peasant economy removed, supply lines added, squires moved to tier2, blessed trebs tier 3.
have fun.
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>>583883812
Spirit Leech feels like it hits for more than 325 on average imo but I guess I'm not thinking about spell intensity
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>>583883862
Cathay had strong lineholder infantry but were weak in skirmishes, Tigermanii kind of do the opposite. They can't hold for shit but DAMN can they murder. I'm just saying it makes them too generalist, when before their inability to skirmish made them standout compared to empire
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>>583884081
well its 50/50 it will deal damage each second, sometimes it can hit more or less, you could get extremely unlucky and do 0 damage or get really lucky 650, and technically it wouldnt be 325, it would be 300 or 350 as averages
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>>583883225
>Tranny backdooring you
Usually it's the other way around
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>>583871418
based based based
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>>583884340
Doesnt that make melkoths better for all cases anyways since a: it can highroll b: it costs less c: it minus speeds?
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>>583884181
I don't really think that ONE skirmish unit they got really changes how they play. I mean you can run 19 of them if u wanna but.. a faction that already has artillery out the ass, magic deletion galore, snipers and shooting airforce.. you don't really need the skirmishers.
What makes em stand out was never the inability to skirmish because they don't need to. Only Bhashiva needs to. They stand out because GIANT IMMORTAL HALF GOD DRAGONS my man.
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>>583884742
she thinking about that bbc...
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>>583884181
>>583883862
Cathay is a ranged faction
No one plays Cathay to watch melee troops clash
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>>583884841
Then you haven't even begun to enjoy Cathay. Next time, make an army that entirely consists of these 4.
And bring a shugengan so she can keep up with the army.
Cathay air force is a fucking beauty..
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>>583884742
All tigermanii are good at skirmishing, I'm just saying it's just a weird thing to add to the roster. I guess every faction has skirmish infantry now anyway so it doesn't matter too much
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>>583884763
Passfag replying to himself with a phone!?
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>>583884841
I play Baaahsheevva doe..
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>>583884841
Cathay has probably the best front line for a "ranged" faction, even with 600 range artillery
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>>583884572
if you hit more than 25 models, yes, because remember
>every 1 second theres a 50% chance that it will deal 3 damage to 25 models over 13 seconds for 975 damage, meaning you need to hit a 50 model unit to get the max dps
if you hit one guy with it, he will only take an average of 18 or 21 damage
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>>583884984
Anon.. there is only one skirmish unit.. fuck you mean all of them? Only one of them can skirmish... and only for like 2 minutes because they only have 6 ammo.
Without that unit Bhashiva would be kinda boring, don't u think?
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wich cathay dlc adds the most if I want a chill Meow Ming campaign?
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>>583885181
Neither, really
Yuan Bo brings more buffs with gate masters and Saytang, I guess
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>>583885262
oh ok
so no cool units?
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>>583885119
I mean less Skirmish like hybrid melee/ranged and more skirmish like bush ambushes or fighting elsewhere. Tigermen are quite fast
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>>583883812
Is the base chance 50% for every spell? Other anon here trying to figure out how to read this
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>>583885387
Yuan Bo DLC is a must have if you want to enjoy Cathay.
Gate Masters has an aura that can give your ranged troops 40% range if he's standing still for 25s.
Celestial Generals are top tier generic melee LLs.
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>>583885458
Let me explain the meaning of Skirmish to you.
A skirmisher is a soldier that is very fast, engages enemies outside of the main battle quickly from range and then disengages again.
A melee unit is not able to skirmish because it has no ranged attack.
The non ranged tiger warriors are shot infantry, they are not skirmishers because they cannot shoot anything.
..
I mean they don't even have the skirmish button.
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>>583885387
Nothing that really fits Miao's ranged spam
I like celestial lions and the dogs but they're kinda hard to utilize well if you're trying to focus on your gunline
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*shock infantry
I guess you can call em ambushers too.. maybe flankers.. but never skirmisher.
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God damn kroak charging in head first, reee.

>>583883768
I was thinking I can just find a place where I won't get raped, but I can't trade settlements to secure it.

>>583883864
Their autoresolve is surprisingly easy.
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>>583885635
Reality is whatever I wish it to be

Anyway, I just don't see their point for being in the roster.
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>>583885792
The point is to make Bhashiva more interesting. Otherwise you just get the same old army composition but now with fur.
It's like with Thorek. You'd say he's fun, right? Well he has fucking dinosaurs, a thing the dawi didn't have before. Why? Because it's fun, makes him interesting.
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>>583868725
My matriarch...
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>>583885773
Lizardos are blessed like dwarves for AR
>natively tons of armour
>AP damage often
>good stats on their infantry
Despite the fact that lizards don't really perform that well in combat depending on what they face. On the other hand though, AR against Skaven is a bit rigged too
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WTF???
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>>583885510
mouse over the numbers they tell you exactly what they mean
its 50% for everything, and mainly exists for modding purposes where you change values to whatever
and its only in wh3 it seems, i guess they standardized it; in wh2, bjuna has 18% to deal damage to a model every 0.5 seconds, and tempest has 100% to deal damage every 1 second
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>>583885892
siege rework?!
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>>583885587
>40% range
wtf
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>>583885913
Ye, thanks. I get the stats on the page but didn't see the 50% chance that you mentioned. Wondered if that was just knowledge outside of that, like a general thing, like you said.

Thanks for the tip on the site, anyway. Very useful.
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>>583885892
HOLYSHIT?????
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>>583885997
you have to scroll to the right
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>>583885956
VCoast also has 40% range, but not on their good units
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>>583885913
>tempest drains vigour and deals guaranteed damage
ULTHUAN
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>>583886072
Is it this thing? It was hidden behind a (+)
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>>583885892
Where's the patch note??
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>>583886159
its 9am over there bro.. let them get their coffee first...
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>>583886198
surely you mean tea
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>>583886198
They posted the Chinese version thougheverbeit? :3
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1257112824238309378
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NAGASH BUFFED
HAHAHA
REDDIT
REDDIT!?!?!!??
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>>583886250
>Version 9.0.3 Update Instructions
Battle of Nagash Improved
Economic and pre-development
We've been following your feedback closely since the release and feel that Nagash's economic system still doesn't strike the ideal balance between challenging and fun. These changes were intended to ease the economic pressures of the early stages of the game by providing the Black Pyramid with more meaningful development goals and increasing post-war revenue at lower campaign difficulty levels.

phew glad I got to play nagass before they made him ultra mega easy mode
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>>583886158
yeah
>>583886157
that only hits flying units
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>>583886447
Neat. Thanks.
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>Autoresolve predicts I'll suffer a decisive defeat
>Win
>Get a pyrrhic victory instead of a heroic victory
Not cool, Creative Assembly.
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>>583886352
did they buff teutogens yet
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>>583886516
They did apparently, a
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IZDF
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>>583886614
Reddit WON
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Ah fuck it, I'mma continue my boris campaign for a bit..
How long do u guys think I can survive on 3 settlements?
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I finally made it. It seems that the campaign option to make minor factions have a better chance of survival is making the major factions MUCH stronger. Like a double-up of the AI cheating. It was so much easier this time with it off.
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Okay English patch note is posted
Stop reading AI translated moonrunes now
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/16126-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-9-0-3?page=1
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>>583886250
>Slut Hellwalker (Spear)
>Melee armor-piercing damage reduced by 2.
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You didn't beat the game if you didn't beat Nagash by now...
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>>583886729
but my slut hellwalkers.....
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>EMPIREGODS buffed
>HANDMAIDEN SPAMMERS mega nerfed
ohnononono!!!
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>>583886818
funny how different translations can be
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HOLY FUAAAAAARK BRETONNIA OP
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>>583887016
THE REWORK IS IN
>THE REWORK IS IN
THE REWORK IS IN
>THE REWORK IS IN
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wait chads always win, now i can play nagash
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Claude did it, no mistakes
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Maybe Boris was a bad idea.. I've been sitting afk for 4 turns already.. this is boring.
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Formula 1 is on guys, tune in
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>>583887403
>regulation slop
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>>583887403
can't, busy clicking end turn on boris
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>>583887403
where we crashin
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Big nasah buffs are here
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Why does Boris constantly say Thanquol taught him many things?
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>>583887265
sorry you are simply too low test to enjoy CHADris
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>>583888161
What was that? I was busy clicking end turn while standing in ambush.
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>>583888242
nigger what the fuck are you even doing go bring war to the good doctor or the orcs that are your neighbours
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>>583888293
Waiting till the fat fuck comes outside to play.
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>>583888336
Why not just attack him?
Also how did you loose Carroburg to Franz?
Damn bratty shitters need easy/easy correction...
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>>583888420
Because 5 million chaos warriors.. and this is WITHOUT the enormous garrison. If I attack him while he's standing there recruiting, he runs into his city.
I gave that city to Franz.
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>Selling your own core provinces
Yikes
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>>583888565
There is a very good reason for that.
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>7 turns until I can declare war again on Morathi
>she just declares on me the next turn without any penalties
bratty hag witch needs serious correction....
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>>583888565
You rape Karl later on and take it all back.. BY FORCE
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>>583888474
Only Legendoftotalwar can save you now.
Wait...
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>>583886729
>Have to own 3x as many territories to confed
>When Vlad has 30+ if he gets the lucky roll where he kills Elspeth early enough that he can steal Reikland afterwards
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>>583888728
Not now, anon. I'm baiting a manticore.
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Modded too much so now Louen starts at war with 4 factions and his first battle is against two half stacks
Went and took a minor settlement instead so they attacked the capital, fun siege for turn 2
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I NEED Empire 2
but if CA keeps the retarded centralized provinces and boring trade mechanics of newer titles it's going to suck. Medieval 2 will be a bellwether. if they fuck that up, they'll fuck up Empire 2 as well
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>>583888949
mods will fix it
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>>583884954
Do you not get eviscerated? Juan bo buffs them and has -upkeep but he also buffs jade warriors and lions
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>>583888949
>Medieval 2
I mean Medieval 3 ofc
>>583888997
good point
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>>583888674
I dont think AI even gets reliability penalties. I've had Dwarves declare war on me, breaking NAP and Trade Agreement, yet their reliability stayed at "Very High"
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>>583888949
Not happening until 2030+ at least
Just pray that the new Napoopan mod isn't just a scam
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Fucked him up good but ofc he runs back to sitting in there so we ambush pass turn for another 10 turns. Yay.

>>583889043
What are you talking about?
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Sigvald campaign hasn't been fixed, he still can't add demons to his recruitment pool. fuck CA
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>>583889323
Siege him
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>>583889483
I've got a way better idea.
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>>583886729
>Warriors of Chaos can now continue recruiting after their Lord is defeated.
fucking thank you.
Stinky fatboy in the Brass Keep has been completely useless.
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game is finally launching, first time as Nagash: do I play tall?
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>>583889483
Check out this idea.
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>>583889543
God no.
Nagash wants as much territory as he can get.
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>>583889543
NAGASH SOLOS (literally)
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Fun fact: while Temple Guards have Armor Piercing tag (over 50% AP ratio) and Blessed Saurus Warriors do not, Warriors actually do more AP damage per swing against infantry due to having such ridiculously high non-AP weapon damage.
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>>583886729
Nagash changes look very good.
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>>583889576
>has to be bailed out daddy Franz
You didn't beat the game
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WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD I DO WITH BOOKS OF NAGASH
SHOVE THEM UP MY ASSHOLE? YEAH? HAHA. YEAH.
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>>583889543
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3813887702

reminder to use this

and this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3810029219

(might bug up quest battle, my reskin mod raped the quest battle and kept crashing)
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>>583889764
The one that gives extra range after battle victory is really good. You can captured an enemy settlement and immediately start moving again.
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>>583889746
I didn't have to play it myself, that's a huge win for me.
And now I gotta go hiss at Glottkin and maybe Vlad.
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>>583889769
wheres loli nagash mod
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>>583889769
why did I expect any useful info from "people" like you
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>>583889769
She only fucks human men
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>>583889543
Absolutely not. You have to expand.
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>>583889904
Bones human skeletons*
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GET THOSE COMMONERS SHOOTING THEIR FUCKING BOWS
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PEASANT BOWMEN
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Speaking of Nagash books does sealing them in my capital do anything for factions that don't have the quest to get said books?
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>>583889851
Pretty silly assumption of you desu
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>>583886729
Glad I held off on restarting Nagash a little.

>-40% upkeep for nagash
Boo
>-10% upkeep for early sections
Boo
>Post battle income
Boo-urns? Since I play on VH
>Sigils boosting
To be honest I am okay with this, they were a little too miserly for the early game.

>Necropolises
Given how grave call was actually cheaper this makes sense to buff.
>Nagash must have x3 as much regions
Seems reasonable to me, alongside the location specific objectives being removed. Problem with that was you'd have to first reach Nuln then spend all that time building. That said I felt like people whining about Vlad were missing a point that Mortarches don't come willingly except for Arkhan. You should have to beat their ass or be more powerful than them. Problem was just Vlad was supercharged.
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>>583890086
i guess makes them unable to be collected but the ai isn't gonna do that shit anyways
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>>583890143
So just sell them then?
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>>583890174
sure
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>>583890143
Nagash endtimes automatically gives him all books you don't personally seal, so if that's gonna happen you have a reason to seal them but if not selling thems all you really gotta do
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>>583890267
oh thats cool i only got archaons endtimes
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>>583886120
How, what units?
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>Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting
>Reload skill from +40 to +15
thanks for nerfing the 1 fun spell this Lore had.
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I don't know why but it seems that starting as Belegar makes Thorgrim survive a bit longer
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>>583890419
um sweety think about health of multiplayer
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>>583890390
They have a Dig In ability that gives 40% range when standing still. Available to low tier gunners for Nagash and VCoast. But they're not available for Deck Gunners (Jezzail equivalent)
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uggghhh... I hate vamp corruption so much..
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Oh you giant faggot..
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>>583891156
VLADDYDADDY
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>>583890481
not even multiplayer uses this
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I guess I'll try fighting him. Maybe the map works out and I can somehow blast the mournghouls.
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>>583891261
You are going to get terror routed LMAO! ITS OVER!
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>>583891317
shut up, bitch
I'm trying to make this fag faction work somehow.
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>>583891156
what the actual fuck
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>>583889323
What are you talking about? If make army of all non ranged fliers+1 lord and face 19 chosen do you win
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>>583889589
is it like the chorf where I turn capitals into the big city and the rest as factories?
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>>583890586
zombie gunners is their good unit
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>>583891317
It seems it's just Vlad who's immortal again.. nothing else is alive.. he just solos again..
>>583891587
Nice ESL. Yes, ofc I win, easily.
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I hate having to play a pathetic weakling lord so much..
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dafuq is belakor doing here?
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>>583892073
BURN HIM WITH FIRE!!!!
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Of fucking course it all revives too..
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>Hard halt to nagash campaigns
Good thing i only played it for 20 turns
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>>583880150
Check out Yin-Yin's capital to the east of Cathay, Fu-Chow. OvN makes it probably the biggest and most impressive city in the entire game and it's half the reason I want Yin-Yin added so I can have it as capital.
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>empire is too hard for the pass sissy
I understand why xhe hates them so much now...
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>>583891662
No.
The way necropolises work is that they make that province and all connected provinces (connected by roads) into Lands of the Dead.
Lands of the Dead you can empower to turn them into undead wasteland, the more undead wasteland you have the better.

So ideally, you scatter your necropolises in ideal locations to make the most out of this mechanic, and then everything else is just basic settlements.

There are a few places that have good landmarks that are worth putting necropolises on, but some aren't good unless you're building certain armies, so you shouldn't feel a need to go for all of them.
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>>583892215
something seems weird in your unit roster
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>>583892279
But I won. What you mean too hard?
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>>583892073
I spoke caveman to make it easy. I saw grimgor do similar things to a weakened tzeentch with no ammo left
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>>583892324
thank you
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>>583892362
np, oh and just because I know some people miss this, you know if a province is connected to your necropolis because it has a tiny little nagash symbol next to its name when you look at it on the map.
Fights in areas that don't have that symbol don't give you as many souls (which you want loads of souls), so sometimes it's worth getting a necropolis down in a less than ideal spot just to keep the soul income coming from battles, then converting it into another settlement type when you get to where you actually want your necropolis to be.
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>>583892161
His start is like 20 feet away
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>>583892161
Belakek loves swimming to that side of town whenever i play ikit for some reason
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>>583892330
nonsense, heresy even
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>>583892010
Good (for VCoast)
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Elspeth is making even dumber armies than Vlad.
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>Random ass Phoenix Guard buffs
I'll take it
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>>583893125
They always sucked I guess
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>>583893125
She's so cute.
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Vlad.. I swear to Khorne.. if you don't stop making cav armies, I'm switching to my Skarbrand campaign which I started close above you..
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>>583893153
They were decent in 2, 3 introduced too many magical attacks making their gimmick a whole lot worse.
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>>583893125
made for kissing
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>>583893125
Beastmen rape bait
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How's the new dlc?
Any fun campaigns or are they over by turn 15 like all the recent ones?
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>killed Vlad and his dragon lord army
>both instantly respawn and kill franz
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And he's cheating on Isabella.
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>>583893745
niggash campaign used to be pretty long but redditors found it too hard so they updated it today to super easy mode
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Can Nagash endtimes event still happen If I wipe him off the map?
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>>583894019
Yes, same with chaos and skaven end times
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>>583893745
There are decent amount of campaigns for various with difficulty levels desu.
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>>583880348
Download the mod again. Most of the issues of mods can be fixed this way
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>>583894209
>It worked
Magic. Thank you anon
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>>583880674
>Anyone knows what's happening?
Rework soon!
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>>583886729
>Nagash as a hard start faction that require work and patience to kick in?
>Reddit: NOOOO we want turn 1 no brain OP lord
They are ruining the game since Ikit Claw
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>>583893745
Some were fun and challenging on launch (Niggash, Boris). Now after Reddit and the MPfags whined they are all no brain 0 difficulty
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>Neru's Incantation of Protection
>Added Immune to Contact Effects to base and upgraded variants.

>Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting
>Both regular and upgraded variants now grant +15 Reload Skill effect (down from +40 for upgraded)
>Duration of upgraded variant increased from 32s to 64s.

Sakhemet's Incantation of the Skullstorm
>Base damage reduced to 15.
>Added 4 armour-piercing damage (21%).

>Usirian's Incantation of Vengeance
>Cooldown increased from 38s to 45s.
>Winds of Magic cost reduced to 9.
>Upgraded variant Winds of Magic cost reduced to 12.

>Usekhp's Incantation of Desiccation
>Added a Vigour debuff of +1%/s.
>Winds of Magic cost reduced to 13.
>Upgraded variant effect radius increased from 35m to 55m.
>Upgraded variant no longer grants the greater melee attack effect.
>Upgraded variant Winds of Magic cost reduced to 17.

Is the lore good now?
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>books of nagash are now only buffs for you army not your whole faction as tomb kings
gay
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>>583894858
IIRC one of them has a global income buff, but besides that, yeah, it's not a fun change. I think the buffs Volkmar gets from sealing the books mostly apply to his whole faction, for what it's worth.
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>>583894825
Still awful. Nehekara wasn't merely bad it was the worst
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>Adore Tzeentch units and theme
>I only get to play Kairos which starts in buttfuck nowhere
>Changeling is ludokino but lacks the base campaign gameplay I kind of enjoy
>Vilitch has the same issue as changeling
>Daniel works out but takes a fuckton of time to become decent
Anyway, what's a good Skaven lord to play if I'm shit at microing units in battle
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>>583895457
Just play Be'lakor then.. he can be all tzeentch..
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>>583895457
>Anyway, what's a good Skaven lord to play if I'm shit at microing units in battle
They're all good now because stormfiends
But Ikit still the goodest
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Hm..
Well I finally got the dragon..
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>>583895516
QRD on Be'lakor
I'm still rather new to TWW3 and struggle to find meaningful difference between warriors of chaos, to me they all just get buffs from souls, vassalize shit and conquer dark fortress while upgrading units
>>583895560
I did 4 runs as throt before finding a decent setup that didn't get me raped by Kostalyn & Tzarina by turn 15.
I never did finish a proper Skryre campaign though so I'll do that thanks
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>>583895741
Well, unlike all other WoC factions, he can run an infinite amount of summoned units in his armies so you can run 100% Tzeentch demons.. and he's a powerful caster, he can teleport.. very tzeentchy.
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>>583895457
Unless they fuck up Egrimm I'll probably exclusively play him since I like human chaos with demons to augment rather than pure demon.

>>583894825
Honestly seems worse to me now. It's utterly pointless except for healing.
Undeath is 0.10 for 6 seconds (or 12 second duration, hadr to tell) for passive
Undeath Heal spell is 7 winds, 0.8% hp, 14 seconds

Nehekhara passive is 0.2 for 6 seconds, so the passive is okay.
But no way to heal and it's pointless. When I was TK I Just did death magic since I never got shadow in time, but I'd just do shadow and death. But I dont expect to ever return to TK when I can just play as Nagash TK instead


>>583892324
One good strategy is to set up a WW1 style frontline necropolis where it benefits from the most provinces to turn land of the dead and also it allows for a lot of enemies to flow towards you. My new campaign and once I am stabilized I want to send Nagash to take some province in the empire suitable for that, maybe Sylvania, and just use it as a farm.
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>>583895826
I guess I'll give it a shot then, thanks
>>583895887
>Unless they fuck up Egrimm I'll probably exclusively play him since I like human chaos with demons to augment rather than pure demon.
I like pure demon, I'm unaware of Egrimm I'm still very fresh about Warhammer lore, both Fantasy and 40k, I also thought The end of times content drop was the final one for TWW3
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>>583895887
>since I like human chaos with demons to augment rather than pure demon.
Same, kind of a shame how this just isn't all that common for some reason. Everyone seems to specialize into either just mortals or just demons.
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>Kemmler
Himmler
>Ghorst
Göring
>von Carstein
???
>Neferata
?????
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>Necrarch lost Spirit Leech
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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whats longma
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Bros.. my 3 settlement Boris run has kinda come to a halt.. I keep killing Vlad's armies but they come back too fast.. what do?
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>>583896402
SUMMON wait wrong dude
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RUNE RICKY
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>>583896221
Welp, there goes the Necrarch's only way to deal with characters and SEMs.
What did it get replaced with though?
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>>583896456
ONE RUG
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Guys the Empire Tech tree is really boring and outdated
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>>583896219
>>von Carstein
>???
Karnstein.
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>>583896221
...Necrarch never had Spirit Leech. It had the two buff spells from Wilds, Zombie/Skelli summon, Fate of Bjuna and Purple Sun. I don't get the patch notes talking about Spirit Leech, outside of rolling the trait that gives bound spell Spirit Leech, they LITERALLY never had it.
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>>583896521
Yeah they did. It wasn't on their skill tree but they always had it as an innate spell.
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>>583896402
such is the power of Vlad
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>tfw still can't win Nagash final battle with Skarbrand and Blodthirsters
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>>583896495
its fine
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>>583896495
they already updated it in wh3
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>>583896491
THE THONG IS MUSTARD
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Look at this shit..
I have one army with which I have to play ambush nonstop to get one of Vlad's in and kill it..
Meanwhile he runs after me with 3.. just cleared one of them..
Elspeth is PERMANENTLY dead so she just stacks generic heroes in Nuln.
Karl is makin and effort but he himself is in Norsca.

Like..
This might go to turn 100 till I kill Vlad.
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>>583896572
No they didn't. The spell they always have is Invocation of Nehek.
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>>583896521
idiot
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>>583896521
I was casting Spirit Leech from a Necrach just a couple days ago.
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>>583871149
>Pictured: less cartoonishly evil
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>>583896664
They 100% did. I used it many times. Once you had six spells you had to hit the arrow to go to the next page to see it, like if you're playing Mannfred, so you just didn't notice it.
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nagash campaign difficulty was basically perfect and they ruined it what the fuck, don't we have enough 0 effort snowball campaigns already? can't we have ONE new campaign where you have to actually earn reaching god like power?
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I have spent like 20 turns holding Vlad back and rekn his settlements.. would you empire fucks finally move your worthless asses...
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>>583896872
uhhh they consulted the experts on the game and they disagreed
sorry
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>>583896952
You're experiencing the true sissy experience...
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>>583896952
KEKAROOOOOOOOO
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>>583896987
I did a cheaty to see if Elspeth is even still active as an AI cause she doesn't move. I ported her strongest army, a 19 stack into Eschen. Let's see what happens.
I think her AI might be broken cause Elspeth, the lord, hasn't existed for 30 turns. She is gone for some reason.
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>Cathaybabu can't handle a moderately inconvinient campaign
MANY SUCH CASES
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>>583896872
this was debunked by the reddit council THO
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I genuinly adored the vibe Markus' campaign had, any similar campaigns?
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Hold the fuck on...
So, the faction of Elspeth still works, it took the city. Recruited another lord, still not Elspeth..
But what in THE FUCK is going on with Drycha?
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>Teutogen Guard
>Replaced a melee attack animation that was sometimes not dealing damage with a new attack animation
>+5 armour
>+2 armour piercing weapon damage
so much for "the unit is fine" niggas
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>>583897442
should have been reversed before release but glad they finally fixed them regardless. if it took empire babbies to finally stop the right before release mpcuck nerfs i kneel to them
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Guys, I have a question, after carefully inspecting the technologies, buildings and units available to the Undead Legion, I have on very important question.
Is Nagash a dick?
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>>583897576
A massive one
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>>583897576
he has a big boner
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>>583895676
What are the titcows supposed to be same stat replacers or modded new
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>>583897808
They are a new unit. They trade 15 armor for 20% phys resist and they don't have the special skill the regular wolf bois have.
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>>583897689
I suspected. Thank you.
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Festus and Vlad are dead by turn 22 on my boris campaign but I ar'd vlad and not festus does it count?
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>>583897331
alberic i guess
hes right next door
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>>583897576
>Is Nagash a dick?
To the point where it's invoked for comedy. They made a whole ass army where the premise of every single unit is that they're eternally suffering from ironic punishments inflicted on them by Nagash.
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>>583897576
Kemmler shoot gambles his life by attempting to side with the Chaos Gods because anything is better than having Nagash as your boss for eternity.
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*Stands in your path*
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>>583898519
books are so cool bros...
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Whenever I raze one of Vlad's settlements the nigger faggot ogres take it instead of an empire faction because they are all weak pathetic chastity cucks.
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Shhhhhh... Be absolutely quiet, there's no way they can see there's a giant toad outside their city..
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OH FKN SURE COME IN HERE AND FUCK SHIT UP EVEN MORE
MY ONE FUCKING ARMY TOTALLY CAN HANDLE 2 TOP POWER LEVEL FACTIONS AT ONCE
FAGGOT
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passfag... you're embarrassing yourself with this massive aura loss...
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>>583898971
what? why?
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It has been almost a year since Total War: Warhammer 40,000 was announced.
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>>583898971
I doubt you've ever tried this before, you dunno how hard this is.
I have to fight the highest tier units from turn 1.. this shit is.. sheesh.. If Elspeth wasn't broken, it could probably be doable.
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>>583898519
>librarian
>doesnt even hold a book, or chain a book to himself
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>>583899185
Really makes you think...
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Patch today giga-buffed nagash campaign
>stronger econ early
>buffed local recruitment buildings
>more sigils
>easier mortarch acquisition
Needed or did it make him baby mode? I liked the idea of a giga OP unit but then the campaign map side was tougher.
I was floating the idea of trying him again, guess I have reason to do so now.
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>>583899464
they completely fucking ruined it
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Damn it, I hadn't tried Nagash yet.
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They forgot to add the Undead Legions victory achievement.
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>>583899563
just downpatch it then if you're such a baby about it
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>>583898327
Define "comedy", because the descriptions of his buildings make it clear that he knows everything you did, and if it even amuses him, he will torture you until he's bored, then he will rip out everything good in you and turn what remains of your soul into a feral beast, as bad as a republican.
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>>583899464
The mortarch acquisiton sounds like the only good change, is it just Glottkin tier easy mode now?
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>>583899464
CA made a monetary sacrifice by letting Nagash temporarily be fun for their most loyal players, knowing that the masses would wail and gnash their teeth at it. Everyone had their chance to play a good campaign, now the window has passed.
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Time to play giga buffed nagash i guess he didnt feel like the end times come
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>>583899464
>Needed or did it make him baby mode?
I think it might be closer to what they showed prior to launch. I know they nerfed his sigil acquisition a bit between the showcase and release date.
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Is this fag immune to attrition or does he have a fucking settlement across the world? He hasn't moved in 5 turns.
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I always thought passfag was good at the game....
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>>583900428
Blavk Ark upkeep + ai cheats = that. DEs will not be fun to play or polay against until their rework.
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>>583900436
The people who talk the most about a game are usually the one who are shit at it, because they're obsessed with breaking it apart but are terrible at the execution. Go check /civ4xg/ if you don't believe me.
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The most skilled players are those who play Arbaal and mass Chaos Warriors of Khorne.
The results don't lie.
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>>583900428
black arks are hordes. They don't take attrition from no settlements... they are the settlement.
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formula 1 is back guys, sprint qualifier
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>>583900654
feel like you could at least fit some dual wielders and halberds in there idk
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>>583900908
I havent watched that shit since i was a kid give me a link
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>>583900908
who cares?
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>>583900931
>>583900936
https://ppv.st/live/f1/2026/singapore/sprint-q
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>>583900923
Too many control groups. Less is more.
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Is it possible to go full plan only and only use armies to defend existing territory?
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>Vlad starts on top of a book of Nagash
>can't use it
Did he forget how to read?
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>>583901159
not a lot of people could read back then in the medieval times
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>>583901159
They didn't want to give Mannfred's one mechanic to every vampire.
The book being there is a reference to the fact that Vlad carried a book of Nagash during the vampire wars.
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Who would've thunk, chorfs and lizards being friends through eliminating a common enemy, rats.

>>583900586
>>583900674
That's gay. But he's dead.
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>>583901159
>>583901230
yeah nah, fuck that. I use the mods that lets everyone collect the books.
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this mission broken? we didnt confed, but also didn't have any diplo to him prior.
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im being bullied
all these rogue armies have full stacks with dragon princes
i dont even have a t3 capital yet aaa
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OPEN PREORDERS FOR SHOGUN 2 COMPLETE ALREADY
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>>583901159
Vlad surpassed niggash centuries ago.
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>>583901375
they are afraid the copies will sell out
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LOL the new patch just gave me +30 sigils to empower yesterday I was on -2 or some shit easy official cheats
also it did not break the DLSS mod so that's good
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there will be a mod to restore nagash's old values soon
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>>583901230
>The book being there is a reference to the fact that Vlad carried a book of Nagash during the vampire wars.
How unloreful. That book should be either in an Altdorf vault or in Mannfred's possession after he robbed it.
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>Nagash changes meant to make early game easier (which was completely fine before, his issue is his economy still sucks cock with 50 regions) actually just do nothing but make confederating Arkhan and Mannfred harder

Good company
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>>583902042
nobody cares about your reddit faction
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>>583902315
i didn't post khorne though..
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>>583902343
saar...
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finally empire bros....
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>>583902391
sissy...
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>>583902391
The Empire is supposed to get buffed.
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oh boy its finally time for lore of nehekara buffs!
>open patch notes
>all nerfs
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>>583902369
>>583902418
uppity today aren't we
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I went from failing like 30 campaigns in a row to pic related in one single setting changed. Minor Settlement buffs, it will fuck shit up for you if you're not a veteran player.
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>>583902581
leave him alone... he already suffered much humiliation from vlad today
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>>583902581
I just really like bullying empire sissies.. but even worse than that are niggashed people. They get all the hate.
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Imagine playing the easiest and most overpowered faction in the game on repeat, too afraid to pick anything with actual challenge, and then having the gall to criticize anyone else
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>>583902597
where is that setting?
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>>583902654
If you think you can do it, show me. I doubt you can.
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Fucking lmao, i haven't played toddy yet but i guess its my next campaign
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>>583899464
Early game sigil acquisition was ball bustingly slow which is gay since thats his only interesting mechanic so thats a good fix, the mortarch subjugation nerfs dont really make a difference since current patch vcunts are all going to have 2x your settlements by turn 20 and on so you're still going to have to fight them
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>>583902721
Campaign settings when you create a new one, inbetween all the ai stuff.
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>>583902747
nevermind that the confederation factions econ is vastly different than nagash so you have to be prepared to pay a lot for the armies, or disband them all and end up spread pretty thin

I do wonder what option is the best when it comes to this, both Arkhan and Mannfred
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>>583902662
why hate on naggash
so gay
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>>583902182
>How unloreful. That book should be either in an Altdorf vault
That would honestly be pretty cool, give Nagash a reason to sack Altdorf, give Vlad a reward for conquering it.
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>>583903027
>literally who
>ugly ass skeleton made for little kids
>egypt themed, the worst of all themes
>entire lore based on cuckold fetish, making others cucks
>jobs silently as the literal who he is while archaon and the rats destroy the world
>defeated by a bald gay vampire
I mean I could go on but like.. you have to love sitting in the chair to like this guy.
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Nagash is a boring sack slop faction that can only field~4 garbage armies with 10 necropoli out and their solution is to slam -40% upkeep on the army that’s a one man doom stack at turn 15 and give you extra sigils which also do literally nothing for your income

You can’t even get Mannfred and Arkham as easily now so they slightly buffed his late game and nerfed his early game
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>>583903218
idk looking at his pyramid there seems to be some pretty fun stuff to do, but getting the sigils sure took a lot of time
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>>583903174
muscle-y red demon faggot that looks like he's from powerpuff girls isn't for little kids but cool skeletal automaton is? not consistent
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>>583902662
made for bcc
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>>583903371
You had me at
>muscle-y red demon
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created some new units with some brand spanking new modding tool i found, but i forgot to give the guys faces
anyway its time to make some new spearmanii bowmanii shit guys.
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>>583902662
>>583903450
both faggots
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Redpill me on Thanquol, please.
Is he combined arms, with focus on the new rogers?
Are the plans just a round a bout way to spawn Vermintide armies?
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>>583903727
Same as all Skaven DLC, he's insanely overpowered. Turn your brain off, do whatever, doesn't matter
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Middenland vs Kislev
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>>583903798
There is ONE Skaven dlc character who is honest and not OP....
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>>583903903
Ikit Claw?
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>>583903974
It starts with T
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>>583904021
Tsnikch
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>>583903727
>Is he combined arms, with focus on the new rogers?
Yes, he doesn't really buff any units so you can build any kind of army around him which is fun. Thanquol buffs himself to an insane degree and will kind of like Nagash have unlimited magic.
>Are the plans just a round a bout way to spawn Vermintide armies?
No they vary. The most common one you'll be using is the steal mechanic that nets you gold and warpstone. Kill-stab is very useful once you've upgraded it. I use it to capture enemy minor settlements out of the way of my main army's advance. Also early game you can use them to aid your own army. On turn 2 you can start one in Zhufbar that will be ready to complete just as Thanquols army arrives. The master plans can be used to create under citites or spawn a high level verminlord. I use both to kind of prepare an attack on a region. I sneak attacked Skarsnik by spawning a verminlord with an army on Mount Gunbad whilst another army engaged his main stack in another settlement.
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>>583903903
RICTUS CHADS keep on winning
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>nakais army has vanguard deployment

Uh, am I supposed to be able to do this?
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>>583904205
So then if I wanted to buff the new rogers does Ikit or the fat unclean bastard buff them? I guess the fleshlab is prob my best bet...
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Uhhh, Nagash is looking a bit TOO ghostly for me, I tried verifying gamefiles but that hasn't done anything, any idea what else I can do?
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>>583904332
Yes Ikits workshop buffs them and Moulder mutations affect them as well. If you wanna focus on Stormfiends and making them absurd, go for Skryre or Moulder.
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>>583904339
You used creamapi
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>>583858613
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3082390624
Actually fantastic QOL which should be by default in a game with so many abilities
Lists all units with all abilities you have in battle so you can keep track and activate them. Mandatory part of my mod list for some time already, can't imagine playing without it

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3082390369
This is one an acquired taste, since sometimes your units will chase enemies you don't want to, which is a contrary problem to what happens in a vanilla, but I got used to it already and it's very nice when you are mopping enemy remnants after the battle

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3071058010 this one was cool for me, but I dsabled it since it was conflicting with something
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>>583904339
Blood files might be fucked, try to verify, reapply everything, maybe get newer crack if you can, that solved it for me on the previous update that broke it.
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I listen to Initial D while making zoomies with Skarbrand.
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>>583904309
Where are your Kroxigors!??.
Big man needs his smaller friends
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>>583904686
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>>583904626
How is his early-game now with Nagash in the area?
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>>583904309
OMG SOMEONE IS PLAYING NAKAI
CALL CA
SOMEONE HAS TO TELL CA!!!
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>>583904830
This is animal abuse.
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>new patch is crashing my OLD save
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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>>583904838
Couldn't tell ya, I haven't started in the original location in over 2 years.
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>>583904934
time to downgrade
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>>583904895
He got over it
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>>583904857
Nta but I love Nakai as well :c
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>>583904895
*smashes your head with a shovel*
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>>583904426
Nope, for once I did not
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>>583904830
>>583905008
This is so cute..
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>>583904991
based migrant

>>583905005
hm didn't work, strange it usually does...
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>>583903903
he was flc
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>>583905217
it still counts as dlc
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>wreck a big stack of chorfs
>walk on over a bit and pic related

Classic.

>>583904686
They're right there?

>>583904857
He needs a nerf.
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>>583905303
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MOSHPIT GO

>>583905204
Always running the same start gets boring.. nothing new to see. I always start in random places. Way cooler
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/twg/ is an /an/ colony
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>>583904626
They all said I'd best give it up
What a fool to believe their lie-ie-ies!
Now they've fallen, I'm at the top
Are you ready now to die-ie-ie?
I had a tickford engine 94' XR6 I did up with my dad in the early 00's. Supercharged it, overhauled the fuel system, practically rebuilt it. 11.5 sec quarter mile. Its been under a cover in the garage for over a decade. Been meaning to bring it back to life since dad died in 22'...

Fuck now I am sad.
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>>583905626
I also listen to random.. whatever this is, music.. while SLAUGHTERING FOR KHORNE
https://youtu.be/brKSqElNlXo?si=0UNYkRFbZn-cJ2D4
I sadly don't know anything about cars, I can't drive so I can't feel your pain or understand it.. but I'm sorry, anon. Hope you can be happy again.
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>>583905773
The squeaky voice hurts my ears.
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Undivided or one of the monogods, /twg/?
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TIME TO SLAUGHTER

>>583906084
Oh, sorry.. well this is next in my playlist, maybe you like this more. https://youtu.be/5E7iHU1F6NM?si=rWedpRktv3y5d23R
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>>583902391
Doesnt replace the fact that boris+valgir lose 2v1 vs nurgle hero at lvl 1
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>>583901323
now there's lots of events around the brass keep, mustering armies and shit. but brass keep is just festus crib, like I give a shit. I didnt confed him. what a broken mess.
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Pantheon Update for Rome 2 soon.
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>>583906203
Undivided is fun for one run but I get more juice out of the monos, it's just more fun thematically
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Oh kitty kat... bad move.. that's.. Skarbrand...
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>>583902391
Seneschal got a buff?
I felt they were pretty decent as it is. General that focuses on buffing melee units. While the standard general focuses on dueling with the gryphon and better buffs for themselves
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>>583889823
>I didn't have to play it myself,
You did not win the battle. You did not play the game. You are a pathetic loser and cheater.
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CA give Gotrek and Felix to Khalida
cmon, how hard can it be?
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>Khalida has a unique skill that gives her regeneration
>she also starts next to Lahmia, where she can build a unique landmark to give herself and all her lords regeneration
Is this stupid?
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Total War: Are You Smarter Than A Passfag?
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>>583906203
when I play Archaon, I keep his army all undivided and then make 4 armies, one for each god
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>run Skarbrand into ranged units
>pop AoE rage
>run a line to collect ell all like pokemon
>charge cav into the raged ranged blob
Easy as that. Nothing more satisfying exists.
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>>583906629
ALL the lords is generally good enough it's not a problem, aside from the fact that high tier landmarks are shit to build
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>>583906745
Sovl
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fuck not sure i can win this
manny will get shredded by their ranged if i go in flying
no mana
hmm
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I'm 78 turns in and I didn't realize you could buy buffs on this page.. I thought it was just a passive buff overview..
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>>583906745
Do you have at least one representative unit per god in his army?
Otherwise that is how I play him.
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>>583904021
THANQUOL
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>>583907384
I can't exactly see the enemy army composition but there is, at least I believe, a super easy way to win that battle. I could tell you how.. you just need to embrace your inner rat.
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>wake up
>EMERGENCY PATCH released
>they fucking trivialized in Nagash because of whiny babies who didn't feel the PAWAH PHANTASY enough
I hate this playerbase. I hate the devs too, but it's the playerbase that enables them.
Fuck this game.
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>>583907384
hit healing cap on manny + no more summoned units + no more casket ammo
FUCK RUN
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>playan non-helf
>see donut around turn50, its been taken over by morathi and slanesh

>play helf
>alarielle takes over the donut and bullies everyone to confederate under her
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>>583907898
women are so powerful bros
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>>583907753
even more rats arrived
i can't
guess i'll load a save
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hi, newfag again!
I am allied with Clan Rictus and we have camps together and are allies in war.
what am I supposed to do about this?
let it slide? destroy them?
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>>583903218
>slam -40% upkeep on the army
It helps but all he needed was a better buff on the land of the dead factionwide increase. Odd choice on their part. I guess most players fucking suck at building wide?
He also desperately needed undoing the ritual of undeath to be tied to the necropolis which they did not do. It was too easy to just chain lose settlements as him.
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>>583907958
Manfred was WEAK
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>>583907384
>>583907786
Did you bring literally zero bats, wolves, carrion?
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Is it just me or is Dechala just not very enjoyable?
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>>583907384
First time fighting Manny last night, the moron decided to fly into my mosh pit of Great Weapon, sword and board and normal Minotaurs with a Doombull. It was brutal.
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>>583908036
i don't wanna see fuckin bats in my lategame armies
take up precious ushabdi arrow slots
wouldn't they get shredded by skaven giga ranged shi instantly anyways
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>>583908058
do you enjoy every LL?
there's a LL for everyone
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>>583908036
they feel bad to use once you have literally anything else, since they end up being suicide units against the enemy's elite units and you have to replace them
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>>583907958
Well if you want the pro way, all you need is for Mannfred to be on his flying horse.. and then you comfy make him fly circles inside the firing area of their artillery for 5 mins till it's empty. Repeat for reinforcements.. and eventually they all have no ammo and you easy win.
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>>583905342
So get MOOOOOREE
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>>583907973
>"""allied""" with another rat
you know what to do
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>>583908058
She will be fun when CA opens up Ind&khuresh
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>>583908218
Hey Legend, big fan
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>>583908465
Luv ya too, mate. Hope ya got ma back.
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>>583908549
Kek, all that hair on his avatar for someone so pitifully bald.
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are these guys the best frontline melee inf u can get as undead?
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>>583908231
yeah but i'm in war with like 3 different factions right now because im a pillaging retard and I NEED the help from them...
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>>583908723
It was a different time...
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>>583908730
i haven't peeked through their bonuses in the nagash pyramid, but by default they're really chinny for how expensive they are. things that grave guard or zombies would be able to take on the chin leave depth guard seriously damaged
they do good damage, at least
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this thing is so goofy up close
why is it filled with glowing skulls
looks like one of those stress toys
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>>583908730
Tomb Guards are more durable.
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>>583909452
Imagine the taste
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>>583909563
They're also more aesthetically pleasing.
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>>583908730
Never really used them after mpniggers raped them in wh2.
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Aaw..
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>>583909761
/twg/ must stop falsely blaming the mp community for balance changes they don't like
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It's cool continuity that in Neff's last battle the Bretonnian knight she seduced from the first quest arrives to help her fight Khalida.
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>>583909949
Sure, as soon as all the MP originated nerfs and reworks are reverted. I will be happily waiting for the removal of healing caps on vampires and Witch Hunters being able to 1v1 most lords.
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>>583909949
I'll never forgive the ancient salamander changes, you fags don't even use any unit higher than peasants with spears
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>>583909452
Nobody really gets it. Everyone knows the zombie dragon is cooler.
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>>583910102
It's also cool that if you confederate Vlad he basically solos half of the fight
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>>583909949
No
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can't you guys just ask claude to make a mod that reverts whatever nerfs you dislike?
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>>583909672
That's just tomb kings in general. Although i have a massive soft spot for how skeleton warriors walk.
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>>583909563
>>583909672
why tho
tomb guard have less armor n shi
i kinda like how depth guard look
also they're tier 3 while tomb guard n grave guard are 2 so I just assumed they'd be the best available
ive been using grave guard because they look cool imo
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>>583910265
spcels don't even want to revert nerfs they just want to cry about this shit. Embarrassing.
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Malus, Hellebron or Morathi for most fun?
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I will never not coom my striped panties for making these armies for free on turn 17.
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>>583909949
>wow the anti infantry unit is dominating the mode where people actually have to pay attention to unit costs and bring chaff
>clearly this is overpowered and we must nerf them
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>>583910614
yeah idk that was easy
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The age old issue with Skarbrand..
You could keep fighting.. but the target is not at war with you..
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>issue
HAH, was just joking.
Blood and skulls, xisters.
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>azhag got literally nothing from the nagash update
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MPsissies sins are grave and they shall never be forgotten
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So what the fuck are you supposed to do against these niggash stacks? They can just take one lord and solo your entire army.
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>>583911316
You play liggars. You have t2 skinks that delete ANY SEM in seconds.
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>>583911092
One of the Devs was asked about this, he said ideally they would have come up with something, but since Azhag was long dead before End Times, they had no lore sources to pull from.
He stopped there.
With how CA is run, and we know for almost all of LotET CA had to ask GW for permission for various items (asking permission to let Neferata recruit Ulrika for example), presumably CA heads saw that "if we spend money getting our team to write something, and then wait for GW to approve or deny it, we either spent more money on something most people won't see, or spent more money on something no one will see because GW denied it. Let's just not do anything."
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>>583911415
I got rank 9 skanks that die to 25 stacks of blood knights.
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>>583911415
they don't thoughever Maybe with Oxyotl buffs but otherwise no fucking way.
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>>583911530
>>583911578
My niggers..
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>>583911674
>1 ammo
lol lmao
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>>583911775
haven't played total war for long, huh? Welcome, new fren.
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>>583911846
show me that ammo then chuddie
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>>583911436
GW is truly the most schizophrenic IP holder ever
>whores out IP to anyone, even mobile games, zero quality control
>For some companies everything has to align to their idea of "Warhammer" to a T and everything has to be approved
Hell, even Dawn of Wars were originally like this when they werent an established IP: it was totally OK to have guardsmen shooting red lasers despite this being apparently against established lore for 35 years where guardsmen shoot distinctive "energy bolts"
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>>583911936
You are so adorable, anon.
I'm not gonna give you the answer but.. guess why Oxyotl has to fight 19 soulgrinder on turn 10? Might have to do with this very skink unit.
It's also extremely easy for him.. and he only uses those skinks..
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>>583912003
Like any major company, when people in charge change, so does decision making.
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>>583912104
ammo doko?
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Turn 17 for 2 hours..
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The pain...
I really want ze sheckles..
But I relly need ze skulls
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Baba Yaga's hexes even curse the land it seems
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKING DAMN IT
I WANNA GO TO BED BUT ANOTHER SETTLEMENT IS IN RANGE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FOR KHORNE
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Odd Baba Yaga campaign
Even Skulltaker
0 Random
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>Buckbroken by Empire then back to easy/easy Skarbrand
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holy shit they're making good on the war declaration from like 100 turns ago
the chinktide is coming...
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>>583908850
I love these Thanquol pics, got more?
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>>583912947
Feel free to try my challenge campaign yourself. If you manage it, I'll bend knee to you in this very thread.
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>stopped caring about being super efficient/minmaxy on the VH/L campaign map, dropped difficulty down a tier, playing for fun and by feel, and trying more to fight interesting battles with interesting units
Let go anon, it’s a game, its supposed to be enjoyable. You don’t need to prove anything to anyone anymore
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>>583913181
i'm playing campaign on hard rn after coming from normal
it's fine, i was thinking of trying VH next
but battle diff is normal
I don't want the AI metagaming me by knowing to dodge arty literally every time
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>>583913181
I'm a themed armies chad so this is my default anyway
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I AM FREEEEE
I CAN GO TO BEEEED
FOR KHORNE
FOR SKARBRAND
I LOVE SKARBRAND
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>>583911674
Blessed Chameleon Stalkers are peak assassin kino that all "assassin" heroes aspire to
>Ridiculous burst DPS (3200 damage per volley, but 4 ammo)
>More or less useless in prolonged combat
You use their stalk to delete pretty much any single unit. Most of their damage is AoE so they work against infantry-sized units as well. However once their assassination is done, they're done. You use them to delete the most important enemy unit like assassin would, but after they've been found out they gotta scoot away.
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>>583913181
coal
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>>583913181
Very based.
I like these settings. I just like killing a lot so I give the AI some campaign cheats.
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>>583913041
https://www.tumblr.com/naki-nakii/tagged/thanquol
here's a motherload of em
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If you don't mod the living fuck out of your game then don't even SPEAK about having fun
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>>583913503
cute
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>>583913462
Finally an anon with Skill and Knowledge in here!
You know what's good.
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>>583913181
>it’s a game, its supposed to be enjoyable
The game is supposed to be whatever you want from a game. Different people look for different things from games.
"The game is supposed to be fun" "the game is supposed to be relaxing" are brainlet-tier takes.
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>>583913462
Eh, their raw stats aren't bad. They're perfectly fine to use as flankers when they use their ammo.
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I think I started in Kislev..
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>>583913679
>senseless border gore
how fun
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>>583913791
>Muh borders as Khorne
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>>583879898
Instead of the red line buffing stats for the whole army it should be stuff like adding various stats to the character’s aura leadership effect, increasing the number of units you can field in the army, and increasing caps for a TT Caps-like system. There could also be faction specific stuff like harmony things for Cathay.
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>>583913950
>Khorne is an open boarders chad
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>>583913503
thanks they cute :)
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>>583914026
>(Khorne)
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>>583913791
what?
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i'm playing Settra and currently friendly with Repanse and most of the dwarves/elves, should i keep being friendly even after Skarbrand and the greenskins are dealt with or should i proclaim a Jihad against the living? what would Settra do?
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>>583914156
it's not fun cause you're not achieving anything
you're not buidling a cool empire
it's just a senseless clusterfuck
disorder is so retarded
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There's a hurricane coming my way LL for this feel?
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>>583914187
I think TK are good guys, no? Khalida is 100%, not sure about Settra though.
He shouldn't hate living since he wants to become living again himself though me thinks.
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>>583914431
Playing the barbarian and destroying huge empires is fun once in a while.
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>>583914431
So you are saying...
>STOP HAVING FUN REEEEE
Well.. sorry anon.. I've played 8888 Skarbrand campaigns and I'm aiming towards 88888 Skarbrand campaigns.
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>>583914431
Breaking shit can be fun and cathartic for many people.
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>>583914431
based and orderpilled
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>>583914431
>border autism in total war warhammer
I only enjoy border autism in stellaris and distant worlds. The map is too open for it to be fun in wh3. There are fuck all chokepoints and half the factions teleport.
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>>583914484
Cylostra Direfin.
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I'm so tired bros. Lately all my campaigns have just been about running back and forth between 3-4 fronts. Not even Hitler had it this bad. Maybe I'll play something else for a while
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>>583914828
>half the factions teleport
AI never does this tho? even if they throw an army or two in it means nothing they just get killed n nothing happens
I HAVE LITERALLYN EVER SEEN A CHAOS GATE BE USED IN 500 HOURS PLAYING IE

it's possible to make aesthethic borders doe, the best example is the empire, I love that blob
i suppose u can also make cool borders with disorder, or even a propa empire, with chorfs
with chaos though, rarely
i wish we had tzeench/nurgle/slanesh etc devastation next, it would be cool to see nurgle garden up a whole continent
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>>583913391
>I'm a themed armies chad so this is my default anyway
Same here.
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>>583914484
Katarin with chaos invasion
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YURI BARKOV
>>
If you want to feel like you're building an empire you play some 4X title or Paraslop or Roller Coaster Tycoon. Total War's "empire building" is just a set of mechanics you're supposed to abuse in order to avoid engaging with core features of the game, like fighting battles. You're not stewarding a civilization, you're playing "the floor is lava" where the floor is all the annoying and stupid bullshit nobody wants to have to deal with.
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>>583913181
>Hard/VH Campaign
>Normal Battles
this is what i have always played on. if it's too easy i get bored and stop but i don't want units to get arbitrary stat buffs across the board, it messes with my mental flowchart of "goblins lose to state troops lose to boyz loose to gors lose to etc etc etc"
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What the fuck, that random elemental bear for Kislev spawned onto me near the end of battle out of nowhere. Almost jobbed due to that. What the fuck was thath, Ostyanka gimmick?
>>583913181
Nah, fuck you
I use multiple mods to make game harder instead
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>>583915654
One of their god rites gives an elemental bear summon when defending
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Nagash seems kinda overwhelming but super fun to combine all the Undead rosters
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Is there a reason to recruit Swords of Ulric as Toddy over any other Ulric unit?
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>nagash got the settlements of his motarchs in preparation for his endgame
>now this is all his territory
oh lord help me, help me, help me, im in incredible pain, im in incredible pain, help me, help me, help me
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>>583916206
All the lands he got are t1 shitholes. You're fine.
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Never thought I would die fighting side by side with a needlessly tall, knife eared, longnosed cheesehaired elgi...
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>>583915118
>AI never does this tho?
AI uses the underway, yes.
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>new update does a lot of fixes for nagash
>somehow also gives him the strykarr quest and breaks the dread abyssal mount unlocks
Always 2 forward 1 back with CA.
Guess I wasn’t in a rush to try him again yet. I’ll wait on 9.0.4.
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>>583916407
You will never experience the perfection that was release Nagash with his ultra poor early economy and rough sigil unlocks where the first few feel the slowest.
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>>583916407
you should've played him on release
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I FUCKING LOVE BUFFING AND DEBUFFING!!!!
I LOVE SEEING BIG NUMBERS AND GREEN BARS ON MY UNITS AND SMALL NUMBERS AND RED BARS ON ENEMY UNITS!!!
I LOVE WATCHING MY CHEAP UNITS PUNCH ABOVE THEIR WEIGHT!!!
I LOVE WATCHING ENEMY ELITE UNITS GETTING SMOKED!!!
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>>583916571
anyone can downgrade the game at any time
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I think Khalida and Neferata should kiss
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>>583916667
>>583879898
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>>583916667
Erm sweetie...
https://youtu.be/R37fNnJP2ys
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one more...
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>>583916894
>vampires were among nagash’s most trusted lieutenants
????
Arkhan created vampires while a captive of Neferata as a fuckup trying to copy the formula like a century after the initial fall of Nagash. Vampires didn’t really work for him until his like 2nd revival invading the empire of sigmar.
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damn wtf this guys a horde cool
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>>583916894
>no longer have to deal with that shit in the new patch
Best change from CA
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>>583917329
he's a boat
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>>583917329
Vampire Coast is one of the coolest factions in the game but they desperately need an update.
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>>583917320
I thought Neferata created them since she was "the first"
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>>583917448
FUCK CAs updates
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>>583917448
What they need is naval battles.
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>>583917363
My heroes...
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>>583917448
VCoast is a meme faction from white dwarf. The most meme faction in game. They are not getting shit ever again. They should be glad they even got in, since Dogs of War were more needed
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>>583917448
DEPTH GUARD WITH SHIELDS GIVE IT TO ME
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Nagash is a dissappointment because MYSTERY NIGGA is not playable
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>>583917523
She made arkhan recreate nagash’s original immortality potion, but he didnt know the exact formula and thus made vampires as a fuckup. She is the first vampire, but arkhan made her.
At least thats how it was in the nagash book trilogy. This canon shit is always in flux.
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>Want to play Neferata
>Have the same crippling autism as WoC where I feel not playing their leader (Archaon, Nagash) is a waste of time.

Its not that I wont play say, Arbaal because of Skarbrand - because Skarbrand is not the lore based 'commander' like Nagash or Archaon is.
I do not have the problem with the Empire or the dawi or high elves or Lizardmen but I do with Brettonia, dark elves...
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>>583916364
>yellow dwarves
Are you playing YE KNOW WHO I AM?
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>>583918112
ah I see

But doesn't Arkhan suck off Nagash anyway? Or does it just not work in the timeline?
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>>583918075
He's incorporeal and possesses shit, he works exactly like he's supposed to.
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>>583915654
Weakling.
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>>583918221
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3450962264
No I am playing this guy.
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>>583915654
banners are so kewl
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>>583918159
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>>583916364
Walls: Breached
Gates: Battered in
Ammunition: Exhausted
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>>583915654
Kino reskin
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>>583918532
Fortress:Defended
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>>583918725
If anyone asks, Snorri died trying to push one of you lot off the wall.
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Claude, fix my game
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GUYS! GUYS! I NEED HELP!

I had a mod that gave Archaon access to Demonic Gifts or whatever that Be'lakor has as his faction mechanic. Mainly for the portals. But I cannot for the life of me rememeber what it was called and I must have been retarded and deleted it.
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>download tw3 cracked version
>Campaign stutters when moving the map
>Download tw2
>Butter smooth movement and panning

So, legit wh3 buyers, does the game stutter/jitter in the campaign for you guys too? I was planning on getting wh3 for multiplayer.
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>>583918912
CLAUDE!!! I SAID NO MISTAKES!!
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>>583918912
wait i thought they fixed that lol...
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>>583918947
No, but neither did the cracked version, so I'm not sure that helps you
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>>583918947
>So, legit wh3 buyers, does the game stutter/jitter in the campaign for you guys too?
no
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Everyone just copying the PoE style talent tree...
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>>583918159
Neferata is quite literally vampire leader, you domb fuck.
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>>583918894
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>>583916364
>"How shortsighted of you. As an immortal, I always knew I'd witness the end of your short-lived existence."
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>>583918159
So you won't play any of the monogod Chaos factions since Archaon is their leader? Only Thorgrim for Dwarfs and Karl for Empire? Only Malekith for all Elves?
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>>583919090
They said TW40k tech trees for everyone are designed like Nagash pyramid
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>>583919164
No, that's Vlad.
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ugh
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>>583919721
No way.
I wanna see the result.
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>>583919164
No, she is ultimately subordinate to Nagash. if she released before Nagash then I would have no problem playing her.
>>583919586
No I will play them because in both lore and my headcanon they are auxiliaries and not beholden to him.
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>>583918912
>>583919721
Every day I am baffled by the incompetence of CA.
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>>583918968
>>583919020
Claude, Claude..! I SAID TWEAK ALL SKILLS FUCK YOU SAR
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>>583919721
That Norscan just wants to repent from his Chaosshitter ways.
kek did you get that instead of some other quest?
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>>583919090
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>>583919721
I wanna see art of Malakai and Syltyrkaar having a blast laughing over a couple pints of Bugman's
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>>583919854
pretty sure that was exactly the same as it was before...though I'm not sure it started at 0
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>>583919485
Is she doing the 6-7
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>>583919776
>No, she is ultimately subordinate to Nagash
As much as people talk about character assassination with End Times, this one still baffles me.
Neferata spends the last thousand+ years making the biggest web of intrigue the world has ever known so that she can move people like pawns until she finds an opportune time to become Queen of Everything... And then End Times says actually she was doing that just to prepare for Nagash's return, she has no personality outside of serving him.
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>>583917930
>names an even bigger meme
the only thing snores of war would bring to the table would be regiment of renown spam
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If you ally with another race you should get access to their RoRs and quests for legendary heroes
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>>583919990
Now that's some peak comedy.
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>>583920154
yeah, ability was changed
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>>583920535
yeah forget about dogs. now a southern realms DLC though....
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>>583920584
The most worthless ability in the history of warhammer.
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>>583920274
A smart character realizes they are no longer the MC and they become supporting cast
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>>583920760
MA and damage is good actually.
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>>583920760
SFO will fix it
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>>583919721
He just wants to fuck the slayers anon... don't fall for it.
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I hate the vampire rework. how to enjoy this shit show? fuck the unit capacity and having to manage all these resources (money, corpses, blood, unit capacity) for relatively weak vampire counts units.
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>>583920920
Try again, simple minded retard. Try reading too.
>>583920921
Kill yourself
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>>583920984
COPE shitter
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>>583920642
>empire spearmanii but based on the countries no one cares about
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>>583919768
The quest just disappeared after I finished it, no Styrkaar sadly
>>583919874
Nah I got all his normal quests
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>>583921116
pikemanii!
hey its like the last place on the map that's pretty undeveloped. and its similar enough to empire that they could cheap out and just call it a character pack.
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>>583920584
>winning in melee combat or enemy is almost about to rout
Such specific instances
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>>583920921
sfo bad
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>>583920968
Unit caps made sense for kangz because theyre free of upkeep or cost
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>>583921054
What? Do you even know what the word cope means?
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had default guard mode for every unit on and was wondering why nobody was chasing enemies lol
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>>583920535
Dogs of War had normal army book. That alone makes it truer faction
And they are needed to flesh out all Southern Realms and can be used for random settlements all over the globe. Sartosa too should have been Dogs of War and not VCoast

Vcoast is a small random location in Lustria which may as well have remained VCounts placeholder
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>>583921521
whatever you're doing right now little buddy!
ease up on the aggression, might pop a blood vessel
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>>583920984
MA and damage is good actually.
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>>583921554
We already have dogs of war, had em for a decade.
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>>583920921
based
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>>583921481
so much this
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>>583921683
cataph's mod is garbage
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>>583921554
>Dogs of War had normal army book.
Yeah a fucking boring one
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>>583920537
Does request army control with legendary hero -> get the army losses -> immortal triggers -> transfers legendary hero to you still work? I had elspeth with coedill
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>>583920968
>how does this work
use the functionally infinite corpses to recruit as many skeletons as you want
your income building is crazy efficient so you can afford a lot more armies/fast infrastructure development
take land because land = more units
make the buildings that generate blood from corpses so you can afford to spend blood on more things than just build-a-bear vampires. once you're a decent-ish size, get the blood building that nukes your corpses for 50% blood, it's needed for anything that isn't low tier spam
the only time i've ever felt a lack of corpses was on turn 1 before my first battle, and there's an early tech in the necromancy tree that gives you corpses per turn from recruitment buildings. it's very silly that you have caps on T2 stuff but it's very easily workable, my izzy campaign was easy.
also, necromancer accessibility was slightly nerfed (it's on the ghoul building instead of the growth building, so it's not literally a necromancer for every settlement guaranteed) but vampire hero access was buffed to the moon (lahmian vampires on the same building as normal vampiresses
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>>583921619
What I'm doing rn? I'm having a cig and chatting with my hubby in WhatsApp. Guess replying to you too.
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eeew i was replying to the fuck ass faggot shitting up the thread!
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>>583919704
Ironically Vlad is the true leader of Vampire Counts.
Back when it was just Undead/Vampires, it could be argued who the true leader was, but when they became Counts that's strictly Vlad's thing.
In theory it should be like Space Marine chapters in 40k.
Vampire Counts (Carstein)
Vampire Warriors (Blood Dragons)
Vampire Mutants (Strigoi)
Vampire Cuties (Lahmians)
Vampire Necromantics (Necrarchs)
But I don't think anyone wants that level of minutiae between similar units for each subfaction.
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>>583921814
What mod? Anon, meds, asap
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Intredasting.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3816496233
Gonna check i it's noticable with my about 50 mods as soon as most get the update so they don't crash.
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>>583913391
>>583915156
Noice. I like themed armies too
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>>583921835
>also, necromancer accessibility was slightly nerfed (it's on the ghoul building instead of the growth building, so it's not literally a necromancer for every settlement guaranteed) but vampire hero access was buffed to the moon (lahmian vampires on the same building as normal vampiresses
This was the biggest change for me.
I've gone from having infinite necromancer cap, to having to think about my early necromancers.
Meanwhile I've gone from having to think about my vampires to vampires for everyone!
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>>583922203
Claude did it again?
Can they just have Claude decompile and optimize the game already?
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>>583922203
AI is KILLING IT
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>>583921936
Defeated already?
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>>583922069
It's actually Mannfred he's in the trailer after all.
https://youtu.be/qjzLuddjIUI?si=-YNOlNzLc7sA0yda
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Is 9.03 save compatible? I just started a new game yesterday
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>>583922292
CA is probably already doing updates with AI with how fucked the game is with 0 quality control as usual
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https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/16126-total-war-warhammer-iii-patch-9-0-3?page=1
>Most location-specific objectives, such as owning The Awakening or building the Blood Keep, have been removed and replaced with thematic objectives that can be completed from any location.
Thank God. No idea who thought it was a good idea in the first place...
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>>583922663
Well they should use newer models then
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>>583922203 (Me)
Oh wait, it seems my mods are not crashing at all. Testing load times now. For the record loading my Neferata campaign from main menu without the mod is about 43 seconds. I'll let you know if it does anything soon.
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>>583922616
ye
maybe it fucks up if it's one of the factions that got more changes, like nagash, but pretty sure some anon said earlier it was fine
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>>583921936
he is quite wonderful to chat with no?
i think he's great
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>>583876356
>>583881491
It does a bit
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I was thinking that I clone the male narrator voice and replace the overacting female narrators voice lines. I wonder if it's possible to mod voices, any ideas?
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>>583923061
...on opposite day!
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>>583881491
It's massive yeah,
Even if that angle is awkward she looks 5 heads tall.
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Alright anon, let's see if (You) are ready for Total War 40k!

What is your:
>Favorite Space Marine chapter.
>Favorite Imperial Guard regiment.
>Favorite eldar craftworld.
>Favorite ork clan.
>1 to 3 factions you are most looking forward to after release.

As for me:
Still indecisive on marines, actually, but right now I'm kinda into the Imperial Fists
Tanith First and Only
Ulthwé
Deathskulls
Sororitas, Tau and Chaos
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>>583876356
>>583923176
*removes your hat*
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>>583923372
>tiny mouth
>gigajaw + gigachin
im not sure that this was an improvement
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>>583923372
That is some horrible AI art.
Also she's apparently Robert Z'dar's sister.
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>>583923442
wtf now I can't unsee...
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>>583923001 (Me)
Ok it works. Second time load with the mod cuts load time by about 4 seconds. Not much but hey, time is money. The more mods you have the better the effect supposedly.
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>>583923372
Honestly looks a lot better.
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>>583923304
i don't really know much about 40k
i'm just gonna wait for chaos marines.
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>>583922069
It would be cool, but VCounts were simply never expanded to that level
They are slowly getting done like this in AoS it seems which does like it's Undead. Singular Vampire Lord models are like fucking Primaris Lieutenants in AoS
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>>583923702
I just wish I cared for the AoS designs.
Ushoran makes me think too much like he's a raid boss instead of a character in setting.
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>>583923790
AoS feels like designers really want to make little fantasy dioramas and epic monsters, but don't really care for regular minis and troops
New Dwarfs look from meh to terrible, but their big ship is amazing. And every faction is like this
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>>583922069
>In theory it should be like Space Marine chapters in 40k.
Give yourself a wet willie right now.
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>play Aislinn
>Elf Nato does all the work for you once it reaches critical mass of 40 settlements per faction
>Can make them fight whoever you want once you spam negative relations with influence
>Tons of bank for no reason
This faction is a bit overpowered
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>>583923304
I thought Space Wolves were cool when I was a kid, but I didn't really know any lore so it was based on nothing

>Imperial Guard
bleh

>Rest
know too little of the setting, but obviously dark eldar
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how do I do the chaos dwarf economy?
all my labourers seem to die too fast
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>>583923790
>Ushoran makes me think too much like he's a raid boss
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>>583924061
Space Wolves are, in fact, the coolest Space Marine chapter.
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>>583924225
If a province has a resource that requires labor, every settlement in that province is a labour camp.
If a province has a resource that requires raw resources, every settlement in that province is a factory.
Towers of course can be put ass you see fit, though personally I don't see a need for too many of them.
Then just keep playing aggressively, the more you raid, attack, and kill others, the more labour you get.
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i love fighting vampires the most
they slip on a banana peal and just dissolve, unlike fucking dwarves or wood elves that would continue fighting to the very last fucker
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>>583924061
Honestly I think the Space Wolves are cool, they get too much hate for having a gimmick when every marine chapter has a gimmick. Ain't nobody out there blasting the Salamanders the way the Wolves get for wearing lizard skins and using fire almost exclusively, or the Blood Angels for needing to drink blood, wearing red, having a blood tear as logo, etc.
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>>583924490
ok seems like I just played too passively and made my economy collapse because of it
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neferata is way too goofy and ugly lol her lahmian heroes are way hotter than her
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>>583919721
Norse Dwarfs ...
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>>583923304
>Space Marine Chapter
Space Wolves.
>Imperial Guard
I do not care about the Imperial Guard, they are just sidekicks to the actual dual protagonists of the Imperium, namely Space Marines and the Inquisition.
>Favorite Eldar Craftworld
Biel-Tan, fighting against impossible odds and still believing you can and will win is awesome.
>Favorite Ork clans
Orks are honestly out of place in 40K, they fit way better in fantasy, so I never really cared about them at all. Tyranid serve the same function they do, but do it in every way better. Orks should honestly be removed from 40K, they're an out of date and out place faction in the setting, neither truly threatening and powerful as an antagonist faction should be, nor amusing and light hearted like a joke faction should be. Just delete them from 40K at this point, really.
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>>583924225
Mostly outposts because you always want your towers to be building (every capital should be a tower), not many factories (though at least one for sure) will do for a large chunk of the early campaign, then try to get either a 4 settlement province and/or resource province like Dragon Isles from Kugath
Basically slaves in higher populations die faster so spreading them out is more efficient, but factories don't use them at all so a 4 settlement province is prime for that
You don't recruit labourers at all, hobgoblin camp is turn 1 build then whichever frontline unit and a bunch of archers, complete trap like making skavenslaves instead of clanrats
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>>583924549
The issue with Space Wolves is that for a while they were the Nurgle of space marines.
Everywhere you looked it was space wolf this or space wolf that.
Then their codex came out where literally EVERY
GODDAMN
MOTHER FUCKING
UNIT
was "We don't have <unit> we have THE WOLFMAN"
"We don't have <unit> we have THE WOLFBOY"
"We don't have <unit> we have THE RUNEWOLF"
to the point that it was not only annoying but also confusing as fuck for anyone who didn't want to memorize the book.
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>>583923176
>>583923372
I like how the hat was anathema for gooners
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20 turns later and im still chasing some retarded rogue army in my territory, thank god this wont happen in 40k
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But is the Golden Knight of Kislev hot?
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Lahmian and Neferata's VA are hot, keep making me hard
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>>583924884
>Likes spaces wolves, hates imperial guard
>has shit opinion about orks
checks out.

Orks are one of the few actually good things about 40k, especially with more and more people trying to make the setting so unfun.
There's a reason the Ghazghul book is noted as one of the few 40k novels that is legitimately a good book instead of a "good 40k book"
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>>583924061
>>583924454
Wolves are both extremely cool and extremely retarded. This is a good thing
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>>583925073
hag
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>>583924549
It's just contrarianism at work. Space Wolves have always been one of if not the most popular Space Marine faction, so naturally they attracted a lot of haters over the years. No one makes fun of the Salamanders because no one gives a fuck about the Salamanders except for aforementioned contrarians, saying they like them just to be different and "unique". Legitimately the only Space Marine factions that actually matter and have relevance are Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Black Templars. Every other SM faction is just mid tier or flat out forgettable and pointless, the setting wouldn't suffer at all if they just got rid of all of them since virtually no one cares about them to begin with.
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>>583924490
How are you supposed to know without a wiki or trial and error? And towers have some pretty sick buildings but I'm guessing since they're a pain to upgrade you don't bother with too many right?
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>>583923304
Mahreens
Imperial Fist
Guard
Steel Legion
Don't really care about space elves
All orks are the same that guy with the pirate hat is neat though
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>>583925121
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>>583924942
The fact the Space Wolves actually got developed lore of their own that differentiated them from all other chapters is part of what makes them great, though. Rune Priests are awesome. The real issue is that every other SM chapter never got fleshed out like the Space Wolves did, so they're all carbon copies of each other on many points. Very dull.
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>>583924454
Its a good thing Azazel isn't in 40K else he'd collar a squad of SW like he did Ulric's followers
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Money's money, I guess.
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>>583925253
>How are you supposed to know without a wiki or trial and error?
Before you get a settlement, when you're looking at it on the campaign map (on the map itself, not in the settlement box below), If you mouse over the icon of the resource and hold it for a few seconds a box appears, one you hold long enough for the box with the resource building in it to appear. Once it has been there long enough you can move the mouse over the resource building to read the details of it. Anal, I know.
>And towers have some pretty sick buildings but I'm guessing since they're a pain to upgrade you don't bother with too many right?
Correct. Once you have things rolling you can make as many as you want, but early on, I find it best to focus on getting a strong economy that supports your aggression before you spam your shit everywhere.
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I don't want to be forced into loving 40k characters like I did fantasy ones...
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>>583923304
I will make donut steels for all of them
Still
>Favorite Space Marine chapter.
Blood Ravens I guess
>Favorite Imperial Guard regiment.
Steel Legion
>Favorite eldar craftworld.
Can't really pick one, I have my own Corsair focused. Won't be possible to play as until Yriel's DLC I guess
>Favorite ork clan.
Whatever
>1 to 3 factions you are most looking forward to after release.
Nids and Necrons are needed ASAP, even though I don't care to play as them

For me though it's Tau (Kroot) and Deldar
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>>583925073
she can seduce me...
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>>583925435
Slaanesh daemons in 40k are the worst because nobody fucks in 40k.
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>>583925386
When I was first introduced to 40k I thought space marines were the coolest shit, grey knights the coolest of the cool.
Over time I've started to find them just so uninteresting though, I think it's too many cases of "and this space marine is the most daring, the greatest duelist, the most brave, the one who refused to die, the one who never fails!" to the point that they just all feel pointless.
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>>583925698
my fuarking hero cain does
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>>583924549
For me as a secondary it was also, aside of what anon said for wolves wolfing wolves, a feeling of them getting a real spat of ultramarine style wank. Where Fenris is a unique amazing planet that can do something holy terra can't and somehow purify warpmagic - which in turn directly leads to the space wolves being absolved of their glaring hypocrisy back in the 30k era. I'mma be honest that I just fucking hate vikings too. Yet I like WoC and just overlook the gay marauders so clearly that isn't the operative issue for me with them.

It's also that the big retarded cyclopse is the most sympathetic of the chaos traitors and is the biggest "What could have been", so a lot of people like the thousand sons and as a result if you don't by default prefer/like space wolves you're more likely to be defaulting to dislike than to be defaulting to neutral.

>>583923304
Dark Angels
They're all good lads.
Not familiar enough with eldar, but anyone who is strong in elf-ushabti Wraithguards
Not familiar enough with orks

Tau
Chaos Marines - Iron Warriors
Chaos Marines - Thousand Sons
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>>583925101
The Imperial Guard COULD be interesting if they were ever used as anything but sidekicks to the Inquisition and Space Marines, but they aren't so yeah. Orks DID fit into the setting back when it was more lighthearted but as they've shifted into making the setting actually serious Orks just feel out of place. Orks in fantasy are awesome and perfect, one of the best parts of the setting, but in 40K Orks just don't fit with the overall universe or thematics at this point. Like I said, they aren't threatening, powerful or monstrous enough, and because the setting has changed their silly humorous side just seems dumb and off kilter, since it doesn't jive with how the rest of the universe is presented. If GW does want to keep them around they should lean much further into their monstrous side, because I seriously doubt they will change the setting back to the parody heavy joke it once was, which was what the setting was when Orks fit into it. When Noise Marines get their electric guitars back, Orks will make sense in 40K again, but somehow I doubt that's happening anytime soon.
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>>583925698
40k is just like me...
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>>583925978
The grim darkness of anon's life
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somehow ended up with a campaign victory by selling territory to the dwarves while fighting the rats as eltharion
what a stressful campaign, constant attacks from all sides in the donut and badlands
i didnt even get to play with the mistwalker units
100mdef spearmen while eltharion alphastrikes+spam spells is kinda hilarious
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For once battlefield favors me
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CA has acquired the age of sigmar license. I repeat; CA has acquired the age of sigmar license.
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>>583925917
>Not familiar enough with eldar, but anyone who is strong in elf-ushabti Wraithguards
That'd be Iyanden. On one hand, it's sort of the unofficial "corsair craftworld" because Prince Yriel the main corsair guy came from there. On the other and more officially related to the actual craftworld, they got fucking rekt by a tyranid hive fleet and most of their population died and only survived because Yriel came back to help, so afterwards if he's not around they pretty much have to depend entirely on the wraith constructs.

Their color scheme is godawful though.
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>>583923290
really? why dont you like him?
he's really a lot of fun to chat with
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>>583926246
Total War Capital Wasteland
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>>583925817
One of the biggest issues that has plagued 40K over the years is that Space Marines win too much. It's supposed to be heroic and amazing when a Space Marine prevails against the incredible horrors and deadly xenos he's fighting, except it isn't really heroic or amazing when it happens every single time. Space Marines should lose at least once in a while (ideally more often than that) so the times they win actually feels impactful and awesome. But they got the protagonist buff too many times and it simultaneously makes the setup pointless and dull, AND makes the villains look like Skeletor level jokes who are just there to job and lose. Who really finds the Tyranid threatening when you know they're just gonna get 1v1000 stomped by Protag McHugeJaw, just like always? There should be stories of Space Marines going up against the threats in 40K and horribly losing, and dying terrible deaths, so the antagonists in the setting retain some level of credibility to the threat they're supposed to represent. But that would require GW to actually be able to hire competent writers, so yeah.
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>>583925970
Personally I think the humor works best with the seriousness.
The fact the orks can joke around, be jovial, have a laugh, and also wipe out an entire planet is part of what makes them great.
Being fun does not mean they can't be serious.
I think their bigger issue in current lore is just that too many people fear the idea of 'my faction' being joked about, because the game has attracted the kind of people who still have the teenage mentality that says "if anyone makes jokes about anything I like, they're making fun of ME!"
That could definitely be an issue going forward, but I'm also one of the people who has also already fallen out with the game and has no intention to return to (40k) mini collecting/painting, so maybe my opinion doesn't matter.
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>>583925121
This guy fucking gets 40k.
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I want to stick my dick in the Pain Glove.
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>>583926387
>arrive at the purifier with two fully stacked armies of disposable mooks
>still have to give up my LL in the quest battle
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>>583926356
>Iyanden
Yech. Mod for that. Thanks for letting me know who though. I had that goldilocks situation when it came to SM. With Chaos Marines the choice was never difficult - Iron warriors are a near perfect choice primarch wise, lore wise, fighting style wise, aesthetically they are good. Thousand Sons was a functionally perfect choice as I like the primarch, like the lore, fantastic aesthetic and best of all the rubric marines fit my love of sturdy and endurance guys and magic is cool.

Space Marines and I was goldilocks for awhile because of that. Bangles have a great primarch, great lore, but I don't like melee focus and the offcolor helmet is a bit garish
Iron warriors was neat primarch, but not big into vehicle focus
Salamanders was cool primarch, but colors a bit garish and single note fire was meh
Ultramarines were too vanilla
I liked the color of the crimson fists but I wasn't big into orks and they fight them as a priority
Celestial Lions look/sound cool but there's like 17 of them cuz the inquisition police keepin a nigga down and I don't know what their doctrine is off the top of my head actually.

Eventually I realized Dark Angels were pretty much everything I wanted, I could just leave the stuff I didn't like the 2 companies that focus in on bikes and flying or vehicles.

>>583926343
WHAT
Proofs?
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>>583926885
>Arrive with level 50 Gotrek
>He gives a speech about how this is my destiny and he can't interfere
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>>583926885
>Supermutant legendary hero could do it for you but mumbles about 'Your destiny' and shit
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>>583926885
>tfw the hero with [Immune to contact effects] refuses to touch the Mortis Engine
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>>583927040
Meant Yech for the color scheme, not for Iyaden I am sure they are fine.

Ulthwe I know is elrond guy and what, their basic bitch spearelfii levy guardians are better than the average one?

Bien-tan and that's the redhead from DOW but what's their schtick.
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I wanna fuck the daylights out of that Chinese lady
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>>583926246
Whats the hero cheat
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>>583927185
>Bien-tan and that's the redhead from DOW but what's their schtick.
They want the glory days of the Eldar Empire back and will kill everything that isn't an Eldar to get it. Aspect warrior heavy.
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>>583927050
it's worse knowing that's basically how ET ended Gotrek and Felix with Felix staying behind to die alone for no reason
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I have Gotrek and Felix fatigue
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>>583927460
Only canon Gotrek and Felix adventures are the ones written by William King
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>Modded nagash is still a better experience
Ack
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>>583927516
T. ratshitter
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>Got Claude to track turn progress while minimized
Neat
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>>583927516
Fuck you dumb rat get cooked
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>>583926463
It's a setting issue. The Orks fit in with old 40K, when the humor and parody was front and center, but 40K isn't that anymore yet the Orks remain what they always were, which makes them stick out like a sore thumb. GW really should change them into more monstrous, vicious and terrible deadly xenos, emphasizing that part of their nature, but they won't do it because the Ork players like their funny, dumb retards, but the Orks as a faction don't really fit into current 40K, so GW just throws their hands up, shoves the Orks into irrelevant side plots and more or less proceeds with their actual narrative and setting direction pretending they don't really exist.
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>>583927040
I've got a similar situation with the space marines. Lots of "I like this thing about this chapter, but there's also this small thing that peeves me off while I also like this other thing about this other chapter".
In the case of the Dark Angels, I just don't find the secrecy shtick that engaging. I adore the Watchers in the Dark though, funny little guys. They're like loyalist nurglings except actually threatening.

>>583927185
>Ulthwe I know is elrond guy and what, their basic bitch spearelfii levy guardians are better than the average one?
Ulthwe is the farseer-heavy craftworld, lots of psykers and yes, their guardians are better than average though that's basically like saying Aislinn has better Ship Company than the others. If a story involves the eldar getting mixed up into a conflict out of nowhere for mysterious reasons, it's usually Ulthwe.
>Bien-tan and that's the redhead from DOW but what's their schtick.
Nostalgic for the eldar empire, want to actually reconquer maiden worlds and bring it back, they're zealous so they get more aspect warriors than other craftworlds. Also for some unfathomable reason have a love-hate relationship with Tallarn guard regiments.
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>>583927541
Road of Skulls is great though
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>>583927460
There are so many reasons people just pretend ET doesn't exist.
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>>583924884
>>583925970
>>583927776
Ngl these are some fucking terrible takes man. Like actual "never share your opinion again" territory.

Also terribly ironic that you diss the orks this hard for being funny while having Space Wolves as your favorite chapter.
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>>583927776
>more monstrous, vicious and terrible deadly xenos
Wouldn't be hard, they eat people
Would probably do it alive
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>>583927776
You seem like someone who'd be upset with how the Space Wolves and Pasqal interact in Rogue Trader.
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>>583927413
You mean those abilities on the right? It's this one >>583904518
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>>583928398
I don't remember Space Wolves in RT. Where was that?
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>>583927968
The Space Wolves aren't funny or humorous though, aside from certain people making fun of them for the constant wolf thing, anyway. I just don't see how you think Orks exist as anything but a holdover from the earlier days of 40K before GW decided to make it an actually serious setting. Orks COULD work in that setting if they revamped them into that direction, but again, they won't because Ork players like them being funny, so they just remain these holdovers from a different time in the settings development and have become completely irrelevant as a result. What purpose or function do they even serve anymore? The giant unstoppable horde is already handled with Tyranid, and the irrelevant jobbers that always lose is covered by Eldar/Night Lords.
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This Skaven DLC was great!
The FLC vamp stuff is questionable but whatever.
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>>583928504
>I don't remember Space Wolves in RT. Where was that?
The entire climax of Chapter 4 and part of Chapter 5.
Starts earlier if you pick up the one in Commoragh.
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>>583928638
Oh. It wasn't even that long ago that I played it. My memory is truly fucked
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>>583928797
>>583928797
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>>583928525
>The Space Wolves aren't funny or humorous though, aside from certain people making fun of them for the constant wolf thing
And the drinking.
And most of their dreadnoughts and specially Bjorn getting treated as cranky old storytellers.
And Lukas the Trickster.
And their silly rivalry with the Dark Angels that originates from Leman being a dumb jock that laughs too easily.
And the more you talk the more I feel you're just a secondary with surface-level takes that you've somehow developed into "I know enough now to have the authority to say entire OG factions should get deleted from the hobby because I say so".
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Why is Glottkin so disliked?
Getting your marauder units to level up above level of Chosen is fun, having campaign mechanic attached to it is even better.
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>>583928197
I mean you are highlighting the issue, an artist actually portrays the Orks as these hideous, monstrous creatures that are vicious man eating beasts, and the entire fandom rebels and bans the guy from posting his artwork as a result, because Orks are wholesome chungus funny guys, not deadly xenos threats. You can't have it both ways.

>>583928398
As Befits Its Function. Pasqal is actually my favorite character in that game. And why would I have an issue with the fact he gets angry the Space Wolves got rused into destroying Amarnat? Although it's questionable how much of a ruse it was, since it really was tech-heresy and Calcazar was right, looking at it from the laws of the Imperium. Also, they did a solid job portraying the Wolves with Ulfar and his brothers, I really enjoyed interacting with him, though, in typical Owlcat incompetence, you only get him when the game is mostly already over anyway. So tired of CRPGs that introduce companions so late you don't get to really play with them.
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>>583928935
The worst of all though, the hypocrisy.
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>>583928984
Could've been Egrimm. Easy salve for the monogod imbalance.
Personally I wanted a Tzeentch campaign between frustrating and easy street.
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>>583929007
>the entire fandom rebels and bans the guy
That happened?
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>>583929007
I've know Space Wolf fans to get real upset about Pasqal letting the space wolves die in the epilogue.

>>583929459
When he drew the beastwoman and heavily implied (lore accurately) that she regularly gets abused, physically and possibly sexually, the reddit declared him persona non grata
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>>583929573
Oh well yeah obviously normalfags can't handle that shit
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>>583929459
He's right, if you consider a reddit moderator to be the entire fandom.
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>>583929007
>So tired of CRPGs that introduce companions so late you don't get to really play with them.
drue
pretty annoying
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>>583929007
Techpriests are always mad over it because they all want to be the ones who turn the tech heresy into a based discovery.

>>583930030
Truth yeah. It's not a problem in some owlcat games like Kingmaker because there's a lot of game, or when you get a secret companion that you've known for a while, but getting last act surprise fleshed companions is extra annoying when they could have easily been found earlier, like with Legion from ME2 (who was meant to be found earlier).

It's even more annoying when some cringe company says nuh uh you can't romance that like GW does.
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>>583933951
RT had some very late from the secret ones, and imo ie Marazhai/Ulfar are pretty damn late too because the following acts are shorter, especially act 5.

One pet peeve is forced splitting up team too. I never have a good B-team



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