>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins November 4th.>Previous Thread >>583894804
Retail won.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
alliance locks cant catch a break
>>583911480this is nothinghopefully orc's anti warlock racial is being deleted next weektruly insane to give horde a 2nd pvp racial to fuck over ally warlocks after 20 years of it
>>583911253Yeah, so now you get fucked even harder by ranged classes if you're melee. They buffed all the cc, damage, and mobility of ranged classes (except mage). They gave melee fucking nothing to counteract the juiced up ranged classes have. wpvp is even less balanced in WoWF than it was in Sod. At least in SoD everyone got overpowered shit.They have openly stated all they care about for balance is wclogs and meta rankings. There's no fucking reason for anyone to want to engage in any other form of content at that point. I want to sit in instances like the game is being balanced around. Not suffer in the world getting fucked in the ass.
How do you get dual spec in forever?
What class are you going to main?What other vidya do you play?
>>583911583alliance doesnt have warlocks
>>583911235is this real? did OSRS win?
>>583911364Retail wonned the losted contest
>>583911768Resto ShamanNone of your business
I don't want to play a hunter in any group content or even at level 60 but man are they a joy to level.
>>583911768female hunter with worg peti just bought outlast trials yesterday for $5, it's fun
this game has no future
>>583911768priestcrpg
>>583911768warrior will be my only character as alwaysi'm building a mistlands base in valheim right now
>>583911768Priestgacha kusoges and old games
>>583909401>import characters from one dead version of the game to another dead version of the game
>>583911776exactlydelete the orc racial so alliance actually gets some warlocks
>>583911768PriestFPS and BR's
Where is the pretty shaman race for Alliance?
I want to become well known in the wowf community on launch, how can I do that?
i WILL buy goldi WILL buy boostsi WILL buy accountsi WILL buy gdkp runs
>>583911768WarlockCurrently Valheim and Factorio
Anyone else liks the fact that hunters in Wow are… hunters? They're not legolas archers or something. Or rangers. They're gritty hunters. Likely civilians with daddy's bow/gun deciding to help the local militia to clear up some rabble.
mage bros....we are the weakest class in the game.....
>>583912425>>583912369>>583912343>>583912297>>583912290Class for this feel?
Will wowa forever be bussin?
How bad is penance now?
>>583912626a lake was drained and a forest cut down to make this webm
>>583912425This isn't going by dps meters... This is just retards voting for their favorite specs. Wait until FFLOGs comes out for raids before whining. And now that they fixed crit on mages they're going to be much better. Mages should be too range while rogues should be top melee.
>>583912626No clue. But whatever it is, they're countered by this
>>583912290the wowf community => make guidesthe wowfg community => be a guild master
>>583912425baitaggrend will nerf woyers the nanosecond they upload r1 parsie on wclogs
>>583912802>fflogsWowlogs I mean.
>>583912695I'm bussin a nut in this wench
>>583912425Smite priest doing better than some is funny
>>583911768>What class are you going to main?Genuinely unsure. The main tossup at the moment is Druid and Mage, but I'm also considering Warlock, though I've not tested it in beta and I'll be alliance, so you know why the fuck would I play a warlock? Leaning towards mage as it's been fun and I don't want to be stuck as a bear. Furthermore, blizzard is adamant about making hybrids worse at everything while actively trying prevent druids from doing hybrid things, so I don't know. >What other vidya do you play? Mostly Helldivers at this point, though war dogs is fun if my friends are on. I have a feeling it'll be another meme game they abandon (like helldivers), so I'm not fully invested in it.
>PI is ... LE BAD!>btw can you just move it up so we can take that and PoM? :)why are holycucks like this?
>>583912297Loot and parsing won't fill that gaping hole in your heart. Use the money to travel overseas.
>>583913015No one knows your healslut class terminology. Speak up son
>human>male>warriorYeah, it's gaming time.
>>583911480sucks to be a lock on either side nowalliance has always had a monopoly on druids since nobody wants to be an ugly cow, horde warlock bg experience has always been watching their curses evaporate thanks to a small army of frontflipping elves spamming decurse left and rightnow both sides may revel in the suffering
these mfers dont wear shoes godamn
Why are rockjaw troggs so hard to find wtf? its all burly rockjaw
>>583912276dwarf girls are cutiesor just mod them to whatever race you want
>>583911583>hopefully orc's anti warlock racial is being deleted next weeknah, orcs are based, sorry that you picked alliance little chuddie. horde will own you in pvp
>>583913015You're going to take PI and you're going to cast it on me for my parse.
>>583913167Fuck off no they're not. Nelf shamans will be forced to be added eventually once Alliance cries and bitches about Horde bias when their raids all lack shamans
>>583911768Shaman enhancement tank looks cool with all those threat talents, but since they cant sign up as tanks I guess I'll go regular shammyman.
there's no way this shit is in the game right?
>>583913131They share a spawn
>>583913229it doesnt count as your damage on the lumberjacking site, it gets added to the priest
>>583913015uhhh I kinda want to go Discipline while lvling up, is it bad? I want Penance
>>583913239>>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM GAY
>>583911768Warrior for the first time as wife wants to play hunter and I want us to get dungeon groups.Currently playing Fantasy Life but I like Darktide and SM2
>>583913252Why not?Why shouldn't engineering have the same shit as in SoD?
>>583913252it is but only accessible to gnomes
>>583913229I'm going to cast it on myself and then just stand there waiting to cast a max rank flash heal
>>583912965That alone shows the numbers are bullshit
>"Hoooh… Anon, why did you cum inside my pussy? Now I'm going to get preggers…
If gnomes can be priests and warriors then gnomes can be paladins
>>583913239dwarfes are fucking ugly. we need nelf shaman or sky elf shaman on alliance.
>>583913015Nah, PI should be deleted
>>583912959There's a huge line for that buddy
>>583913239looks way better than any horde girls at least skelf is the only exception
>>583911768dorf shaman since shaman is my favourite class and I want to experience the alliance side of things after all these years years. I pray to god that blizz gets some work done on them, because shit is dire right now. ally shamans are gonna be in so high demand, but if the class is shit to play no one is gonna want to. groups gonna be willing to pay anything for that sweet sweet wf.
>>583913463Skyborne shaman for ally is much less likely than NE or even human at this point.
>>583913463They should make dwarves more hot and that would solve the problem
>>583913290They just nerfed the shit out of penance, might as well go shadow now. You can still heal dungeons just fine without any disc or holy talents
threadly reminder to provide valuable feedback. the devs want it. we're all deputy game developers now.
how long before chinese people start pushing for pandarians in forever?
>>583913463Nah they need to hold their ground on this one. Dwarves are the only race where shaman make senseThe trannies who insist on playing a pretty elf can go neck themselves
>>583913764they are already changing the skelf lore to give them shaman on alli
>>583913764They're not going to hold their ground>>583913718
Blizzard>We're only going to balance for level 60 end game raid contentStreamers>NOOO THIS SPELL IS TOO STRONG AND ITS GOING TO MESS UP OUR 1v1 PVP TOURNY!Blizzard>Okay we deleted it from the game.
>>58391371825% effective dungeon mob xp is equivalent to leveling. That's already absurd.
>>583913745they are too busy pushing for more sanctioned p2w mechanicsglad that shit will be quarantined
Where can I see spell scaling? Like the wiki shows how much damage it does but wheres the "scales 100% with spell damage" info?
so is everyone getting max legacy points?is there no incentiveto get to lvl 25?
>>583913718I really dont understand how niggas can see all the new shit in Forever and then STILL want to just spam SM for the third time.
>>583913863>level 30 priests tanking level 60 elites because they cant die is good actuallylol
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>streamer is going to rmt and kill you in game with his rmted gear and make a video and you'll look bad online>no dungeon quest exp>tiny +20% dungeon mob exp>no new classes>bad balance classes>insane new gear power creep>shitty old gear>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>unbalanced pvp>rogues top 1 dps because yes>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>insane balance changes every single week by the SC2 balance team that make absolutely no sense but disappoint everyone>dev doesn't play the game and thinks troll has strong racials>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't realize night elf racials are overpowered>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't think>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own mother>you can't disable the fog anymoreyep, they gave up on wow fogever
>>583913992Is Aggrend's cock salty?
>>583913948https://talentsforever.com/magepick the class scroll down below talents and theres a spellbook with all the scaling on the tooltips
it is a lonely life as a warrior mon
>>583913968We have a lot of retail fags who have been playing wow long after it stopped being an actual mmorpg
>>583913595That's fine. As long as when it finally clears up I'm not having to do some gangbang scenario and we're 1 on 1. I don't perform well with audience
>>583913968mazed individuals
>>583913968Because there are full sets you have to farm for? Why even have these in pre-60 dungeons if they don't want you running them more than once?
>>583914051You tell me anon
>>583913968They just don't really want to play the entire leveling aspect, or firmly believe that the game really starts at 60. But why not play a game where you start at the final end game, like fighting games or something.
>SoD devs do sod dev things like streamer cocksucking at the cost of the game's long term health>WTF it was supposed to be my forever hooomeeee!!! It was meant to be different this time!!Fell for it again award hahaha
>>583913968because it's an organized campaign from gold sellers. literally. these people tracked down players, in real life, who would fuck over their bots. literally sliding letters under their front door saying "we know who you are [insert player name], stop sabotaging our operation or we will kill you and your family". there's a multimillion dollar industry, primarily centered in taiwan, solely around gold selling in games. wow is their biggest asset.
>>583914032>they killed mop for this
So spellcasters are royally fucked meanwhile physical classes are kings gotcha
>>583913194it's already being nerfed confirmed lil gup
>>583914169I was a little skeptical about that madskillz thing. Was that actually true that he got the note slipped under his door?
>>583911768Lone wolf nelf hunterBDO ranger
>>583914241Deserved. If you enjoy classes where you have a casting time you're fundamentally homosexual
>>583913968a lot of people dont really want to play an mmorpg. they want a raidlog simulator with a chatlobby attached. also making dungeon boosting non-viable is a huge threat to bot profits.
>>583914237MoP killed WoW in the first place so it's just coming full circle
If my first character will have engi+mining should I max this perk out first or the one that buffs your rested exp and earlier talents? I'm not sure how many perks will be available early on, if it's a low amount then the exp stuff is only useful for alts.
>>583914301it wasn't mad, he was just talking about a person who it happened to. in his video he talks about 2 people that happened to.
>>583914407you wont be getting enough legacy points to make any use out of the early 5 talents perk on your first character. in order to get that many points on your first character, you will need to be 60, with a maxed out crafting profession, several exalted BG factions and completed both raids. the legacy system is largely to benefit alts.
Still haven't decided if I should go Blacksmithing or Engineering on my pally. Used to be a no brainer but there's very little pally gear on Horde side and the updates to Blacksmithing seem to actually make it a viable option
>>583914064ty
>>583914414Oh that's right. I just find that so difficult to believe. Gold sellers and botters are THAT big?
>>583914407You're not going to have 5 points levelling your first character.
Dwarf shammies are going to be so rare yet so high in demand that I legitimately think they should consider forming a cartel and monopolizing their services.
>>583914589Yes.Anyone posting negatively about anything here is a fucking rmt botting subhuman. Every change is good if you are an actual player.
Now that wow forever is forever changing with numbers game, I feel like I'm playing dota/lol where every patch there are different winners and losers
>>583914295post the devs saying the exact words "we will nerf orc racials"
>>583914727You think pretty much every reddit account that discusses dungeons are a part of it too?
>>583911768Probably a priest on sofcore, and a huntard on hardcore.PoE1/2
ud priest or skelf shaman
>>583911235They call you Europoor, but they never call you a liar
>>583913415cuz it be crazy?
Uh bwizzard?!
>>583914589>that bigever wonder why botters/gold sellers are from 3rd world countries? same reason why any remote work gets sent overseas, because SEAniggers, jeets, chinks and vodkapes are worth nothing and will do whatever work they can find for pennies, because pennies will buy them bread so at least they won't starve to death by the end of the week. all it takes to make real life $$$ is playing wow, and since blizz doesn't go after botters, they can use legit hacking to fly across the map, or teleport even, to any resource they want, sell that off for gold, and then sell the gold. that the profit from that gold sale is enough to sustain their shit existence.
>>583914727Hmm what a nuanced take
>>583911768warlock and sppoe1/2
>>583912425nha ff bolt mages will wreck
they removed the 1h campfire debuff
>>583914769>Aggrend: "Looking at things like actives such as the Orc and the Troll abilities and how strong they are, perhaps a little too strong, also things like weapon skill abilities... Do we want to keep those or do we want to replace those with something else?"orc actives are blood fury and curse removalhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/changes-to-racials-likely-coming-next-week-in-wow-forever-383311
>>583914815>literal taiwanese mafia built around gold selling>tracked down and threatened players in real life for messing with their operation>multimillion dollar enterprisethey already bot in WoW, do you really think they wouldn't bot reddit or social media, aka the most botted places on our planet? are you fucking stupid?
>>583911364except retail devs begrudgingly give in after weeks of community protest while SoD'ers suck streamers dicks and eat their shit in a moments notice
>>583914889Of course it's useless kek
>>583911768undecided between hunter, pally, warriorprooooobably paladin because good solo capability gonna check out the new dd2 dlc
>>583914815Yes. It's obvious as shit, pay attention.See @583914925? You say the truth and they screech because I'm right.
>priest has power word shield and renew up>100% hp>gets 100-0 anyway with 1 stun nade to stop any healingimagine at 60, unless they change it mage will be instagibbing anyone in a combo.
>>583913968Out-group always bad evil and dumb That why they bad and dumb
>>583914083I want to be the one scooping her out after everyone is done with her
>>583915128Nobody cares, nobody fucking cares about pvp
now that everyone can see forever is doomed, what's next for blizzard?
>>583915127Meant for >>583914925
>>583912993>HelldiversIs it any good? Last time I dropped it a ~ month or two after launch when they literally nerfed everything to the ground.
>>583915193PvP realms always have the higher population count thougheverbeitasitmay
>>583915193You don't care, but it's because you are bad.
>>583914548Lol no? By the time you're in your 30s you already will have 5 LPs easily
>>583915260>>583915273Nobody fucking cares about pvp you pvp faggots are nerfing everything because>oh at lvl 30 you can oneshot imagine at 60 bro!Dear god just get rid of pvp altogether
>>583915193they cared enough to nerf penance and all the cool items to play with because of a pvp tournament
I felt the new Dalaran dungeon was okay. I wish it were a little harder. What do you guys think?
>>583915260That's because there's fewer PVP realms (3:1 PVE:PVP) because there's generally less interest tho retarded nigger monkey
>>583915352Exactly and that's the problem
>>583912425I feel like anyone who does 600+ DPS is capable of doing his part in any level of content. So overall most Specs are in a good place. Would downgrade the S-ranks a little bit though.
>lil gup already spammingYep, the Mafia is after me for saying the truth.You'll never be able to boost you subhuman.
One thing I miss from the later expansions is the iron horde aestheticNot very hyped for more horde quest hubs when its just going to be endless tents and mudhuts
>>583915338getting wrecked too often?
>>583915260I'm only going pvp because my friends are retarded and wanna roll there
>>583915313list the 5 LP you will have by 35. on your first character.
why do i need to take this for 5 points for the rage regen?
>>583915419No, I mean collectively PvP always has the higher and more skilled playerbase. The majority of top PvE guilds are on PvP as well. I'm not even the boogeyman you're arguing against, I chimed in because you're factually incorrect about your assumptions of the playerbase
>>583915260I much prefer pvp realms. Game still shouldn't be balanced around PvP, it's more of a gimmick/novelty.
>>583914910>>583915071Why dont I see more videos about this? It sounds really nuts, and concerning.
I wish I could refund the collector edition, already having a Forever fatigue. The patches are soulless shit.
>>583914986>troll active is too strong>It's literally the nerfed version if the one from classicWtf is aggrend smoking, he even took away bow specialization from trolls. Orc racial being strong is indeed needing a nerf treatment but why the fuck is he aiming at Berserking? 10% IAS for 10s is fuck all
>>583914861Gnome priest if you actually want in raids
>>583915559That's pretty good. More of a tactical decision this way. Give up some Rage for additional damage. Or keep as is but lose certain abilities. I love it.
>>583915338I already knew you are bad at the game, you don't need to keep confirming it with your lukewarm IQ opinions. You literally have the opinion and temperament of someone that tried to pvp, got absolutely fucked in the ass multiple times, and decided it's not his fault its the game. You are platinum ass-mad. Just go fight scripted NPCs that don't challenge you at all. Shitter.
> be a fat tbc RMT boomer> pay 1000 USD to venezuelans to HR glaives in tbc anni> forever comes out> wtf guys?? i want to finish sunwellHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAH
>>583914861ud priest
>>583915680I think he's referring to the regen active that trolls get. It is indeed OP for PvE
>>583915313you know you need 10 points to reach and max out the early 5 talents, right?
>have to pay gold to upgrade spells, only gives you like 5-10 damage>all your spell power comes from weapon and gear upgradesokay, I can understand that>run a dungeon, complete all quests but don't get any loot>need loot for damage increase>run dungeon again>0 exp, still no lootlmao!
>>583915508Are you unemployed or and under the age of 20? Normal people don't play pvp anymore bud
>>583915549Here's 8 points by 45 without doing much
>>583915559Because tac mastery is amazing, you can do a whole lot more as a warrior with it. You don't need improved charge either
>>583915549>>583915313dont you start with 16?
>>583915680It's a big deal in the level 30 tourney, sorry chuddy.
>>583914715>devilsaur mafia 2.0>50g to get a shaman to show up to your raid and they get prio reserve>anyone trying to level a shaman who refuses to pledge loyalty to cartel will be corpse camped by horde mercs
>>583915618There is plenty of stuff about huge complexes in places like cambodia where they kidnap pretty girls and make them work as slaves in online scams. Wouldn't be surprised if they ran the gold botting industry as well
>high alert is a direct nerf to all rogues in wpvpthats fun. wheres the perk that gives me magic resist?
>>583913968we've seen the new spells and aside from some flavor in the ud paladin zone it's SSDD, sorry i dont want to kill x-mobs, pick up x-amount of shit off the ground (literally and figuratively), slow walk an npc way too far or walk to the 3rd floor of a garrison to fight over a named with some antisocial pricks
>>583915725>>583915857is it though?why would i even want to stance change as 2h arms? i've not figured out in which situation i would want to change stances
>>583915641i did last night, its 3 buttons and instant refund no ticket needed
>>583915559>not taking tactical masteryHave you ever played warrior in your life?
waitdo warlock spellstones stack with enchantments like rogue poisons? Are they finally not useless?
>>58391587116 is the MAXIMUM amount of points you can SPEND, and nobody starts with anything jesus christ. they gave everybody maxed points in the beta in order to test the system out. my god, reading comprehension and critical thinking is an all time premium
>>583915842Take it slow rushing botter piece of shit
>>583914986Oh no don't nerf blood fury to a 3m cd don't make it perfectly align with my bloodlust oh nooooo
>>583915956actually no lol
>>583915881>gets btfo by everyone trying to get in on the grift and 10000 chinese dwarf shamans show up so its now worthless
>>583915849>complete the following dungeons>includes dungeons in both horde and alliance capital citiesmost players won't be getting those while leveling. also>"you'll get 5 points by THIRTIES hyuck hyuck">"ackshewally you can get 8 at 45 hehehehehehe"retard
>>583915941I think you can only refund the digital editions, not physical, no?
>>583915849>rank 7lmao
>>583915936>be arms warrior with tac mastery and 55 rage>can cast sweeping strikes right before auto attacking, swap to berserker, immediately whirlwind for 25 rage, autoattack, and then queue up a cleave with the rage from that auto or use MS without losing any rage>be warrior without tac mastery>can swap to defensive stance to revenge, or swap from berserker to battle to overpowerTactical mastery is the GOATed talent from the entirety of the warrior talent trees. Just trust me
>>583916172hmm okay!i'll look into it more maybe i'm just missing skills atm to use in defensive stance probably the case then
>>583914986the devs literally have zero fucking spine, my god this game is going to be terrible by spring '27
>>583915941Priest main?
>>583915849>rank 7 by 45>whilst also having down literally every dungeon possible, including those in major cities on both factionsLMFAO. lil blud, just sit down and shut up, for your own good
>>583916140ah i have no idea about the physical
>curse of doom scales 400% with spell power
Is it true they removed Infernals from Warlocks?
They gutted Bloodthirst lmao no more Self healing
>>58391554918 points that are basically begging people to buy gold
>>583916275yeah you got me
>night elf priest spell deals 10 times as much damage as penanceGuys?
>druid>engineer>doesn't realize ez-thro and saf-t bombs are usable by non-engineers and don't have a cast time>actual engineering-only grenades have a cast time and can't be used when shifted, it shifts you out to use itwe got a retard in our midst
>>583915842just craft new gear?
>you have to get 5 points in the first talent before getting talentedI guess that talent is going to be so much harder than I thought.
>>583916457>night elf priest spell deals 10 times as much damage as penanceThat is fucking hilarious
>>583915618Because they're exaggerating. The death threats only (allegedly) happened to one guy and then nearly immediately after going "uwu this is so scary I quit!" he started his channel back up on killing bots. So either the threats were hot air or he just made it up to make himself a martyr and boost the eventual "resurrection" of his channel.
>>583916457Penance is for healing chud
>>583916008>>583916268coping mudhutter niggers
>>583915829Ah I misunderstood. Thought he was saying we wouldn't have 5LPs during the first leveling.You will probably finish your first char with LPs maxed out though. With a couple of low alts.
>>583916227You'll get more tools to use your rage on later on. Just trust me. It also helps alot even if you're gonna lose a bit of rage, you can save more.>oh no, I'm in battle stance with 44 rage and the enemy is about to use fear on me, I'd better swap to berserker stance so I can berserker rage to negate the fear!>without tac mastery, you dump 34 rage, an entire mortal strike>with tac mastery you lose 19 rage, but you'll probably get back up to 30 on your next autoattack and can immediately autoattackIn basically any situation where you're using more than one stance (which will be often) you'll be better off
>>583915849>pvp rank 7 when they are going to limit the amount of rank points you can gain in a week>supposedly doing all those dungeons
>>583916457>6 sec channeldogshit
Horde PvE if you're white.
>>583916657heals as much as flash heal
>>583916663im more annoyed by the weapon changes, using a gray/white sword on my leveling human lock felt pretty damn good
>>583915849this is what redditors actually believe
normally i would be concerned but i trust the plan
>>583916591It's mostly just for your alts
Any other classes with an execute ability?
>>583913968What new shit is there to see while leveling besides Riverglades?
>>583916604THAT'S NOT A CAT
>>583915849holy fucking kek, put me in the screenshot please
>>583916161>>583916289>dadgamers shocked that someone actually plays the gameyea i know, unbelievable!
>>583915178Are you still dead set on rolling warrior, king?
>>583916732It's enough to kill one mob of your level before it can reach you
>>583916882paladin
>>583915128>person dies after getting perfectly countered>uhm this is bad actuallyyes lets bring back the meta of healers never dying unless they're fighting 3v1 surely that'll be more fun
>>583916935you're retarded lol>>583916704
>>583916140If you're retarded enough to buy shitty chink plastic 'limited edition' slop you deserve everything you get
>>583916679dang alrightthat should be the same for pve right? mostly
RETAIL MINUSRETAIL MINUSRETAIL MINUSRETAIL MINUS
Did bag sort button disappear?
>>583916882demo lock
>>583917049https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1791127863851429.webm
>>583917049good change. I shouldn't need to have out of game esoteric knowledge to play the game effectively. An upgrade should be an upgrade
>>583917024>>583916932casuals upset that skilled players rank up faster than they can imagine
How about this one?
>>583916457It's not 10 times, but 3 times. Still, pretty fucking strong, enough to justify a cast in any dungeon as a healer or questing
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/gdkp-ban-only-applies-to-na-and-europe-realms-4gamers-interview-383345LMAO, only chinks are allowed to buy and sell gold
>>583917171That is a metric fuck ton of damage.
>>583917209Pedophile who's never had sex
>>583917171What the fuck
>>583917049People who are (actually) good at the game will still downrank spells when appropriate for mana efficiency. The change was made to prevent a situation where downranking was always the best play. Not that anyone complaining about this would know the difference
https://youtu.be/QSogO9on3tAOH NO NO NO NO
>>583917049These niggers have no idea what they're doing balancewise
What if they removed all instanced dungeons and just had them as part of the world?
Reminder
>>583917357>She doesn't know
>>583915128As it should be mages are a high skill pvp class
>>583917171Lock feels like its setting up for how it was in TBC. Where you start with affliction until you get more gear and mana sustain to go demo lock, before just scaling your ass off with demonology
>>583917301Are you really surprised by this? Bugmen have cheating as part of their culture and DNA, if they can't cheat at something they won't do it.
>lets just spawn 2 spores for 50 people with a respawn timer of 10 minutes
>>583917285Still has the oldest problem - it's sturdy in raid, it generates enough threat on single target but tanking dungeons is absolutely miserable.>thunder clap does 0 threat>demo shout does 0 threat>if you don't have windfury and enough hit you'll hate your life and all of your dpsBut at least in raids you should be fine.
>>583917032I mean the only bad thing is that it is non-refundable lol other than that it was a decent deal desu
>>583913252the sod belt tinkers are confirmed in the game. its a mage blink on a 3 minute CD. its mutually exclusive with the nitro boost tinker which is an 8 second 160% speed boost which is better in 99% of situations so literally nobody ever used the blink one.only the reusable belt enchants were engineering exclusive, you could craft consumable versions that non engineers could use. the consumable non engineering ones have not been datamined in forever as of yet from what I can tellthe nitro boost tinker alone makes engineering the strongest profession in the game for every single spec so I would assume the consumable versions make it into the game or else everyone that does any engame pve or pvp whatsoever has only 1 profession slot which would be very vanilla but I dont see it being the case in forever
>>583917473based. Trannies are seething
>>583917530there are 4 different oasises
KEKAROOOOOhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/gdkp-ban-only-applies-to-na-and-europe-realms-4gamers-interview-383345
>>583917040Yeah ofc. There's a ton of enemies in pve that fearTac mastery is just really really good. You can dance into defensive if you're getting trucked by a mob the tank lost threat on and not lose almost every point of rage you got. you can emergency tank and dance into defensive stance and pop shield block and then sunder armor or demo shout, just tons of good value
>>583915503Why don't you just play alliance then? The dwarves have the iron thing for you.
>>583917376buy an add dick nips
>>583917285>>583917579is it just my imagination or did they nerf sunder armor threat generation?
>>583917340I have 2 kids and I plowed my wife last night
>>583917512Where does destro fit in this equation?
>>583917652and i suppose you could macro all of that too?
what went wrong?
>>583917697Or did they break it again like it was for the first two weeks
>>583917605Oh I had no idea it doesn't work with the boots. But you can still swap them around when 1 is cd I guess. Does the blink break stuns too? If so, it's better sometimes
>>583917741mid point before starting with affl and raping everyone with demo
>>583917741AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>is an unkillable murderball in your're path
>>583917795they easy moded it
>>583913597orc girls mog them
I don't know shit about Warlock in Classic era versions. I played Affliction for like 2 months eons ago in WoD.What's the general deal with each spec? Which one should I play for the level 30 cap?
>>583917795Retail raids buck broke and destroyed his balls.
>>583917795RestedXP and any paid leveling addon should be banned and keep dungeon leveling low like how it was before this change. You want gear in dungeon, keep running it, no one is stopping you!
>wanted to play Rogue when Forever was announced>gets nerfs, gets no substantial changes, and still offers zero utility>Rogues are still overrepresented because of the "Rogue is THE best DPS!!!" announcement>impossible to group as one, will have a lifelong terrible reputation>"ok maybe Priest will be okay">substantially nerfed, Penance now deals less damage than just wanding, Smite was shit and now it's shitter>Shadow is still shit>wanding 1-60 again, barely a future beyond thatHas everyone had this experience of their chosen class having something awful happen with it, or is it just my picks?
Assa or Sub for PvE?
Penance should be moved to 31 and buffed. A holy priest should never be able to pick up penance, and right now it is too weak to justify.
>>583918069What are you taking about assassination and subtley look amazing>>583918097sub is kino for leveling but assa is peak fun in end game
>>583918069hunter is like that too
>>583917847its literally 1 to 1 a mage blink so yes it breaks stuns. these didnt come out until scarlet enclave in sod at which point PvP was long considered a joke with people one shotting each other so im mostly speaking from a PvE standpoint when I say that nitroboosts were virtually the only option
>>583918069>play warrior>always have a party because i tank and make them myself>always exclude warrior/hunter/shaman/rogue/paladin from my groups>get every item I want every timesimple as
>Overpower works on enemy dodgeWhy not have it work on parry since you're already getting increased parry chance at Arms
>late autumn>closing down my summerhouse since it's already getting cold and all the garden work is done for the year and the harvest is done>getting ready to settle in>took two weeks off for WoW Forever launch>will be spending this time in bliss, levelling at my own place, reading every quest>all while ignoring all cancel streamers and redditors>will be levelling up every single class and profession>all while enjoying the game to the fullest with a nice cup of cocoa and snacks
>>583918069They will be tuning classes throughout the entirety of Forever. Pick your favorite race and class fantasy and stick with it.
>>583917793Yeah you can macro a bunch of stuff if you want. I personally like to have a little better granular control so I keep my macros to a minimum
>>583917228So true, they should add item levels and make it so higher item level = better item. I shouldn't need to have esoteric knowledge to gear my character with the best items.
>>583917975sorry dungeon quests and exp throw off the rested exp optimal route and you end up being too overlevelled for the guide, and if you skip it bricks the route, aggrend cant level without the addon please understand
>>583918069>>583918097>>583918158>rogues can have poison, sharpened weapons, enchantments, and shaman windfury buff
>>583918158>sub is kino for levelingI thought soSnD eh
did you pay your hybrid tax today
>>583916965Not the nelf slopperI'm going orcs warlock if you wanna have fun
Why did they fuck up classes so much? Vanilla is pretty much perfect aside from paladin missing taunt and balance going oom ...
>start combat>phase>quest mob is goneRRRRREEEEEEE
>rank 1 penance gained at level 35 if you take spirit tap deals 135 damage>rank 4 starshards gained at level 34 deals 762 damage
>>583918237because its not called Revenge
>>583917649blizzard has zero control over what chinese servers do. they just lease out their software to netease and they are allowed to do whatever they want with itthe chinese titanforged servers literally had in game support for GDKPs added to the game because its the norm over there
>>583917312>>583917343>>583917512this is just nuevo hipster lich king demo execute
how can you make healing not absolutely snooze inducing in forever
>>583918069Shadow is only shit until shadowform. On the sims it is a great caster dps.
>>583918440It's a useless ability then if you can't scale the usability procs
>>583918348Well, I wouldn't go that far. Not that many specs were viable at all in Vanilla.
>>583918503read the arms talents
>No changes schizos were actually rightVolumes
>>583918212Playing as a tank and organizing all of your own groups is basically just cheating, you get everything, you control everything, you are everythingI wish I was interested enough in being a tank, but alas I hate it.
>>583914986man, i hope they don't neuter the strength of racials because of minmaxing fucking faggots.
>>583918526All the specs were viable. I think the phrase you're looking for is not even spec was perfectly optimal for being top dps on wclogs.
I can’t pick between lone wolf hunter or affliction lock with demonic sacrifice. Sell me on one or the other.
>>583918587? It's crit strike chance, not chance to proc being usable
>>583918348And like 20 different things wrong with Cat druids
>>583918330hunters get to do this too and dont have to pay for the slice and dice buff
>>583911768RogueOld school runescape
>>583918239Personally, I already have my favorite whiskies ready. I will be taking a vacation shortly after release, so I will start about 2 weeks after. I will focus on just 2 classes though, as I am in no rush. And there will be more races eventually! I don't want to overlap so early!
>>583918665Scroll down a little more
>>583918330They said that they would make them the top dps
>>583915931literally why are you playing any iteration of classic wow then
>>583918665
>>583918487Shadowform is only a 10% damage buff
>disc pve gets ruined because the soijak obese dev is balancing around a level 30 duel tournamentAwesome stuff.
>>583918754>>583918769I am big retard sowwy
>>583918409>fag takes the escort quest/kills quest mob in front of me>relog into a new layer>gg
>>583918634Eh in the spirit of Vanilla maybe. But we are so far removed from 2004 both culturally and demographically.
>>583918791shadow is shit because of the mana costs not the damage
>>583918817what do you think it was gonna happen with penance at 60, lil gulp?
>>583918069Just play Paladin or Hunter if you don't want the devs to take a huge shit on your class randomly
583918817Bot mafia shill do NOT REPLY
>>583918212Yup YUP!>play pally tank>exclude anyone that might roll on my lootIt's really THAT simple!
>>583913718I hate patch culture so much it's unreal
>>583918861is that how to jump layers?
How can they fix shamans so people will actually want to play the class (so the rest of the raid can get the buffs)
>>583918482Play with a group of maniacs who pull way too much way too fast
>>583918791Did you miss the two other parts of the form?
Why shouldn't I human femrogue?
>>583918879They are fixing most of the mana issues across specs.
>>583918817All PvP should be balanced around battlegrounds, as it's completely ok for some classes to be better than others at certain things.
>>583918940instant casts
What's the most meta dps ?There are no rankings yet from icyveins so I don't know what to pick...
>>583917916>still riding the sl/sl spec>not going 31 in demo for an active, buffed pet along with sacsl/sl is definitely strong, but super boring. full demo allows a lot more dynamic play by being able to use any pet for any situation still, as opposed to locked into just siphon life
>>583918459that's only china tho, in taiwan and korea and rest of asia blizzard operating servers themselves and gdkp there always been allowed in every version
>>583918879So just wand away like you would with a disc spec
>>583918791>only
>>583918946Personally I wish they'd just ditch Shadowform and roll those bonuses into earlier talents. Priests basically don't have a DPS spec until Lv40 because of this shit.
>not dipping into arms AND fury for maximum 2h ungabungaNGMI
Who is lil gup
I wish human females were real bros
Alliance sucks! Do the Horde have any problem with a little humie joining their side?
>Avoided getting the beta because I didn't want to burn myself out before launch>Only now realizing that the true Forever experience was the first week of the beta>Now it's gone, eternally beyond my reach I should have boughted
>>583919142You
I don't care about """""1000"""""" new quests not being able to spam zf to get through the 40-50 wall is retarded and bad game design
>>583919023The current idea is that rogues are specifically to be the top single target dps, with other classes being below them based on utility. But things could change and nothing is set in stone. Why not pick a race and class fantasy that appeals to you?
>>583919092There are two other talents that give 10% damage before shadowform so shadowform isn't really that important when comparing to a disc spec for leveling
>>583918482if you're bored as a healer then the group is not pulling fast enough or you have too many healers in the raid.
>>583915128>get outplayed>diehow is this an issue
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY CANT I GOT FROM 0 TO 100 WITH ONLY 1 PENANCE TICK YOU FUCKING NIGGER DEVS
>>583918990>>583919034people really do lack reading comprehension and just jump into the chain
>>583919142zoomgroid niggerbabble. If someone says that you can safely disregard them as actual cattle
>>583918960cant play mutilate
>>583919189I dont rap
What's wrong with me paying for a leveling addon like restedXP if I just want to turn my brain off and chill while playing a video game, instead of forcing myself to sweat just to keep up with adderall fueled zoomers who spam dungeons 27 hours a day?
>>583919139Mana cost reduction should be baseline
>>583919142It's brown people zoomer speak. Might be trans though as they copy whatever blacks say that becomes popular. They got "y'all" from blacks instead of southerners, for example.
>>583919331>What's wrong with me payingIt's free.
>>583918764i like piloting classes through dungeons and pvp til i get bored, questing is mostly an unfun mindless means to an end
How do I sign up for the pvp tournament bros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg28HuLT2C0
>>583919331because you can get it for free from ownedcore
>>583919226>not being able to spam zf to get through the 40-50 wall is retarded and bad game designretard biggo
>>583918940Shamans are the best buff/support class in the game. I have been a shaman main for many years in many iterations of WoW. I don't want to heal the most or do the most DPS but I do want people to suck my dick because I bring the best buffs to groups/raids and make everyone have more fun. Give us support cooldowns. Give ele a unique caster buff like Moonkin Aura. Make Rage of the Farseer a group buff. Give resto a healing imbue or spellpower totem or something.
Imagine picking your class based on what's meta or what's strong instead of what you like to playAnd then getting nerfed immediately
>>583919458notice how they use the SD models in all their thumnbnails.
>>583919331>if I just want to turn my brain off and chill while playing a video gameplay retail
>>583918482I just hope we dont end up with the TBC style of healing which meant constantly precasting and cancelling your heals on the tank to try and preempt the sometimes 20k damage a boss would do by autoattacking 3 times within 1,5 sec.
>>583919458female skyborne mage is the canon main character of forevereveryone else is just playing her game
>>583919554If I wanted to play something fun id play retail. Im playing classic for imba.
>>583919331No one is forcing you to sweat. You can take your time to get to 60. It's literally Forever. Read your quests and be immersed. If you want to turn your brain off, just play a different game where you don't feel stressed.
>>5839172855 minute shield wall and defiance are way too important to pass up. improved charge is also actually good now and will give you a lot of snap threat on pulls
Are the legacy point achievement progression account wide? For example the dungeons, can I do half of them on one character and the other half on another character to complete it?
>Human warrior>Get mount at 40>Riverglades around that level>Main faction is Brotherhood of the HorseGenius design or lucky coincidence?
>>583919025there's no dynamic play in pvp outside duels. you get jumped or jump someone. SL/SL has a better toolkit to survive and win.
>>583915178Based and wholesome
>>583919331Behold the classic casual in all his terrible implications. These are the people you share a game with and who are gonna influence the devs..
>>583919025>laughs at you from 31 yards away
>>583919481>ownedTotaly forgot about that website
>>583919331>I just want to chill but also I'm going to have a meltdown if someone gets to 60 a week before I doYoure gay
>>583919661Oh, then you're looking for Era.
you must be so low test to pick alliance desu, I can't even imagine it
>>583918171Ah alright, I'm not familiar with these. Was thinking about bgs and stuff
>>583919563>play retailRetail is too complicated and hard for a zombie like that. There is a reason he prefers Classic.
>>5839194521. Be a streamer2. Be the blood relative of a streamer or save a streamer's life3. Kill a streamer and loot the Night Media signet ring from their corpse
>>583919709>running VW as an ohshit shield 24/7>rogue stealths behind youuh oh>paladin BoF or bubbles through exhaustion and dotsuh oh>orc hard counters you regardless of class and all your pet can do is provide a temporary shield until they chew through ituh oh
>>583919815Nope thats HordeThe faction of heccin oppressed and marginalized groups and queer metaphors
>join horde>fun grouping and chat>try out alliance>24/7 asmongold discussion and american politics
>>583919546They should have given elemental Totem of Wrath and kept it a unique buff like in TBC. Nothing pissed me off more than the transition to Wrath when everyone's buffs were shared across classes because this hurt shamans the most.
>>583919187you have terminal fincuck fomo. the only betas that were actually worth playing was back in tbc when they let everyone test their new zones and raids.
>>583919458oh no no no
did blud just reply to his own comment?
>>583919949>I CAN'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT POLITICS I NEEEEEED POLITICS I LOVE JEWS AND JEWISH POLITICS
>>583919940You can spam the one-button rotation key and still get like 70 parses.
>>583919554Unfortunately for all of you, I'm a hunter.
>>583919228No I need to parse the highest and reach 60 as fast as possible
>>583919693yes
>>583919987always been like that, outcasts play outcasts and group togethermeanwhile narcs play narc race to one up one another
>>583919987Kek its funny how the alliance player >>583919949 just proved your point 15 seconds before your post
bearbros... they have to be joking with this retarded ass set bonus, right?>If you tank bad and let your guy die you can now revive him>if you tank properly you get nothingpffffffffffffffffffffff
>>583917473>>583917609
>>583920205It's a 8 month old set bonus stop fucking posting this shit
>>583919815Not sure if you got the memo, but lgbt have specifically chosen Horde now because they identify with marginalized peoples and hate the traditionalism of Alliance. I agree that it's a fucked up situation. But Shadowmeld is one of the coolest racial ever.
why the fuck did they need to make impale require deep wounds again??? deep wounds is fucking horrible <1% of your dps in any fight and we could finally make good specs without it
>>583920173>Aha! See? The alliance are OBSESSED with how horde players want to wear dressses and follow little girls into the bathroom!Not the W you think it is lil bro.
>>583919331You engaging in a paid third party service for the game perpetuates a behaviour that erodes the integrity of the game in question and financially incentivizes third worlders and other spiritually brown people to look for other ways they can scam the players out of money. It's an unhealthy practise.
>>583920205Pretty good since bear is an off tank. Make sure you revive the big tank man bear lol
>>583919815Who's gonna tell lil bro
>>583911480>he thinks literally 4 shadow resist worth of fear resist on a neck is goodwhew lad
>cultivation requires you to actually find the herb in the world>then has a cast timer>then has a gather timer>so you can pick up 1 (one) herb>1 hour cooldownyou have outdone yourself aggrend
>>583920323>I LOVE JEWISH POLITICS! I LIVE IN AMERICA!We know
Alliance races look so samey
>>583920417it's so fucking shit it makes me mad
yes, this game is made for redditorsyes, you will still play ityes, you will do nothing
>>583919331People still pay for leveling guides in 2026? What a world.
this quest is way too hard
>>583920417>free black lotus every hour (guaranteed flask) is bad
>>583920521what am i supposed to be outraged about here, explain
>>583920521Things like this is pure soul though, poopsockers would never understand
Feels good to know I'm not a brown amerimutt obsessed with jewish trannies and politics and play vidya for fun
>>583920521why did you updoot itredditor
>>583920558ngmi
>>583920147>You can spam the one-button rotation key and still get like 70 parses.you can ignore the existence of parses, but you cant ignore the fact that in retail better players are rewarded with better gear for being able to clear heroic and mythic. every day the the toxic casual logs in he is confronted with the fact that other players are better than him and get better loot as a consequence. this is why retail is so hateful to classic casuals. the entire point of them preferring classic is that you can afk in the back of the raid and still get the same epic as the tryhard 99 parser.
>>583911768Hunter. Still pondering fem orc or troll.
>>583919331Who the fuck needs this to "chill" while leveling? Leveling is by far the most "chill" part of the game. Is it THAT hard to use your brain and critical thinking? Christ they even added quest markers for you dumbasses which I do NOT like.Holy shit you monkeys, am I the only one who actually enjoys playing this video game?
>>583920417I like it
>>583911768PriestReplaying Wo Long 1 in preparation of 2
>>583919554>play what's strong>get nerfed immediately>play what you like>get nerfed immediately>play the dev's pet class(Paladin)>you're fine for the forseeable future
did anyone play with the controller here? is it actually good like ffxiv?
>>583918817an immersion dispelling streamer wankfest is totally what i had in mind when i heard the words wow classic.
>>583920326blizzard could just disable addons lol
>>583920636Agreed. I can't wait for the game to launch so all the brownoid amerifats get sent to their containment servers.
>>583920424>wanting to protect children from predators is now 'political'Amazing how you gamergate faggots had to shove culture war garbage down everyones throats for years but now that it's your bad habits in the spotlight suddenly the narrative is reversed.
>>583918873In 2005 even when Ian is noted as having proven AQ40 was impossible, his calculations weren't based on a world buffed stacked group of warriors. The average raid and player didn't focus on logs,l because they were competing against their other guild mates on shitty inaccurate dps meters. Not every single person playing their class on every server globally. Your definition of viability is skewed because of the amount of data available and the number of people you're competing against.Players grossly ignore how strong those utility spells they have are, even though they picked their class because of them. I really don't see how they get to dps parity/viability without deleting spells from ranged and healing classes spell books. Small group pvp, 1v1 / 2v2 is the one system players engage with more than any other, and for the devs to say they're going to disregard that is going to be a massive mistake. They couldn't even maintain that stance in a beta for a stupid streamer tournament.
>>583919815
>>583920701>you're fine for the forseeable future (as long as it's a shockadin)
shrek gif
>>583920721They tried that in retail and failed.
>>583920417they should replace all racials with stuff like this so the metafags will stop having a meltdown over balance
>>583919815Horde became BIPOC coded faction as time went on, and the same people that started writing them like that are now working on forever.
>>583920665levelling is the worst part of the game, the most chill part is farming prebis and bgs, if you arent 60 you always have the anxiety of falling behind
I think a lot of early-level chase items are being nerfed because of how the beta is structured.Everyone is level-capped, so players have plenty of time to complete long grinds that they would normally skip. As a result, these powerful items are much more common than they would be on live servers.But once the game launches, how many players are realistically going to stop leveling at 20 to travel across the world collecting 20 books? Certainly not many of the hardcore min-maxers who are rushing to max level.And that’s exactly why I think these items are good for the game.
Undead Prot Paladin>comfy leveling>free 40 mount>best 60 mount>best dungeon grinding for gold without competition>free rank 14 farm in AV just by being afk as a tankBUT>have to swap to ret for raids because tanking is boring>huge single target threat issues>retarded clown ret/prot build mandtory for single target>no raid spots for ret paladins>no raid spots for prot paladins unless you're a GM or officer>holy paladin is incredibly boring and dull>enhancement shaman is fun but open world grinding will be hell>free raid spot>elemental is a meme but fun in AV>warlock has great leveling but boring raiding and no raid spotsI don't know what to do bros.....
>>583920701>Play prot paladin >Get gaped
>Alliance tradechat>"Wtb Enchants">"lfw alchemist">"LFG Deadmines!">"Good morning everyone">"Anal [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]"">"Its a shame they added Skyborne instead of High Elves...">Horde Trade Chat>"OH MY HECCIN HARRIS THE ALLIANCE IS SO FULL OF CUUDS">"A ROGUE FROM OLYMPUS GANKED ME AND THEN H-HECCIN MISGENDERED ME!!!!">"ANYONE ELSE THINK LE FORSAKEN ARE LE QUEER ALLEGORY??">"ASMONGOLD? M-MORE LIKE ASS MAN BALD!">"EVERYONE PLEASE VOTE ON NOVEMBER SO WE CAN LEGALIZE KILLING FETUSES AGAIN!">"DID YOU SEE WHAT DRUMPF HECCIN SAID ON TWITTER?!?!"
did they optimize the chuck out of this game in the last maintenance? my temps are down like 10c.
>>583920636this game isn't for you. the quests are teeming with it.
>>583920521this sucksfuck aggrend
>>583920665>enjoys playing this video gameAt this year?At this website?On this board?Yes
>>583920151Mythic+ grinding is one of the most mind numbing experiences I've had in gaming. Big numbers on screen is not good enough for me to be interested.
>>583920751Retard.
>>583920618>what am i supposed to be outraged about hereThey have an entire department dedicated to trawling reddit for ideas and implementing them.That's a problem because WoW players are notorious for asking for things that eventually make the game unenjoyable, like flying mounts and dungeon finder.
>>583920721Yeah I'd be fine with that but unfortunately there's too many faggots playing this game who needs their elite UI addons and other garbage for that to ever happen
>>583920861stop thinking like a classic andy for one
>>583920896Who the fuck reads quest text? Just to get offended because its apparently "too woke" lmfaoing at you amerishits with your endless culture war brain worms
I'm going to have 3 toons lvl 60 in 1 month all thanks to restedXP and the quest loving redditors that got dungeons nerfed
>>583919331>I want the sweaty speedrun guides so I can keep up with the other sweats but when I do that it is chill and not sweaty
>>583920314didn't they make deep wounds stack now? might be good
>>583920873you mixed horde and alliance chat there blud
>>583920751Yeah that's what I said.
>>583920665>am I the only one who actually enjoys playing this video game?A lot of dadgamers cling to Classic because it's their safe space to escape to at the end of the day. Easy, comfortable, safe. Just do the same shit over and over while numbers go up.
>>583920748commies are like thatlook at any successful commie revolution and you'll note the first thing they do is outlaw being a revolutionary
Fascinating watching this place steadily become mindgaped LeftvRight talking heads. It's like one giant MKultra experiment that perfectly groomed you all into spreading the plague farther and farther.
>>583920721>installs ACT for damage meters>has a side monitor web page of the guidethats not even going into the externals that add weakauras,you cant stop it
>>583921087>he doesn't know because he has no beta accessShoelessbro...you better sit down because I have some terrible news for you.
>>583920656TELL EM HOW IT IS SIS
>>583921225i do know i know alliance chat is just asmon racist chud spammingmeanwhile horde is chill talking about life and death kinda shi
>>583920958You're going to get MoP style specializations where you pick a spec, have some talents, and lose all the spells they don't want you to have. It's going to happen eventually but that is the future of WoWF
>>583921151>disables combat log
ganking and farming olympus chuds 24/7 is going to be hilarious
>583920873>>"ASMONGOLD? M-MORE LIKE ASS MAN BALD!"This but unironically
>>583921131I seriously belive 90% of the political slop is AI generatedIt's just ragebait to disrupt the midterms in every place possible because you can just tell an AI to go shitpost for 24/7 and it costs you basically nothing
>>583920521I'm okay with that.Not okay with that gay ass druid form that doesnt match the art style at all.
My ally guild has made peace of having no shamans. We survived without them in classic, we can survive without them.Turns out our usual shaman players don't want to play dwarf and our dwarf players don't want to play shaman.
>>583920873Look man, I'm just not playing Alliance. Just not doing it.
>>583921327Is this real?
>>583921327STOP
>>583921347there are ways to get around this, you can vibe code it in minutes nowdays
Where is the pvp hotspot atm?
>>583921396shaman is the most miserable class to play, no sane person wants to play it
>>583920873I've noticed this as well
>>583921410Enjoy raiding in a LGBTQ+ guild anonRemeber to not misgender the GM's boyfriend- I mean girlfriend
>>583921131Nobody here is arguing for lefty politics though, its just the assmongoloid faggots posting stupid strawman politics shit and the rest of us calling them idiots I guess that was bound to happen when hes the the epic chud politics man with 30k guildies or whatever, half of who have probably never played WOW before
>>583921039the only people who play a 20 year old rpg for the gameplay are disabled autists. if that's you, apologies, carry on and enjoy your time.
>i do know i know alliance chat is just asmon racist chud spamming
>>583921553EU Horde are old school chuds who love Germanic Tribes, Huns, Mongols. Pillage and rape and shit.
>>583921396i would play shaman if they didn’t add a bunch of stupid shit like maelstrom weapon and other dogshit wrath abilities that ruined the class
>>583921396Ive been trying to mindcontrol myself into thinking >dwarf shamans are cool... think of the wild hammer stuff... I can larp as a wild hammer dude throwing lightning hammers at people... Its been working a little but man...
>>583921574You play this game for the quest text? That you then deem too woke and get upset over? What the fuck does that make you lmaoooo
>>583921534No it's not, more players should give shaman a try it's actually secretly the best class of the game. Please make your first character a shaman you won't regret it. PLEASE just try shaman I swear it's good.
>>583921327Necromancer bros we are so back
>>583921669Oh, you're EU, my badEnjoy raiding in an Indian or Pakistani guild
>>583921351Asmon says Olympus will be playing in PVE since he got tired of dealing with multiple stream snipping attempts. And questing with 50 other players just watching his back back is killing his immersion.
>>583920873the horde never recovered from asmon invading the undercity and making it his bitch eternally mindbroken
>>583921396Just recruit bro
>>583921669>>583921764Reminder EU will not have asmonfags shitting up everything and ruining wow
>>583920873Lies I'm playing on alliance PVP right now and everyone is just spouting MAGA crap or arguing about how much they like/hate Olympus.
Planning on rolling on the RP server.What should I expect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg28HuLT2C0DISINGENIOUS FAAAAAAAGS
imagine playin an mmorpg and only talking to the same 5 guys you always talk to
>>583921941Yeah but it'll have Europeans, which despite everything, are somehow worse.
>>583921719i was promised classic plus. this is just fresh with retail quests. it's a legitimate complaint.
>>583921941sucks to be EU, we get to play horde and farm unskilled chuds all day, europeans don't have that pleasure
>>583921396the class is in an absolute state right now, but I 100% guarantee your guild is gonna start crying once they see how the lack of wf is fucking up their parses.
>>583921985A more chill atmosphereMore shitty playersNot much actual RP
>>583921776its was actually because he kept getting layered into a horde gank squad and his squad didnt get layered with him, the layering is fucked
>>583921985alot of tight cunny wanting to taste your cum. I am one of them :3
>>583922046Nothing compares to asmons 60k retards making racist unfunny jokes, not knowing how to play the game and leaving dungeon groups because "haha so funny"Nothing
>>583921764>quick, I gotta make some shit upHorde EU are literally just normal players from all sort of ESL countries
>>583922114just don't invite them to groups/raids? whats the issue lol, install addon and you won't even notice them talking
>>583921985https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxUQRen3Ck0
>>583922112Nooo cunnymane nooo don't ERP at Goldshire nooo
>>583921764browns rarely play wow though
>>583922190Anon, they are everywhere. They create alts without the guild to harass other people to join asmons sect
>>583922141Dude you're talking to an Asmongold nuthugger, he saw Asmon watch a video how europe has fallen to the mudslimes. There are no white people in europe any more its all muslims including the EU servers
>>583921985ERP troons
If they delete shatter curse from the game I might play a warlock. They're basically non-existent in the beta and have a lot of unique stuff that everyone will want in their raids. The alternative is probably just going warrior again.
>>583921985Pve server, but between doing game stuff you chill, rp and hangout.
>they never invited poorfags to the betagrim
>>583913825really????
>>583922114Racist jokes?? Oh man how horrible.Why are europoors so endlessly gay and cucked.
>>583922360Is it true that anon said there are less retards on RP servers?
>>583922114It'll be 100k+ on release. This will be Chudcraft Forever
>>583922335>shatter curseIt's nice RP flavour but absolutely busted.
>>583922412>>583922426There's two typical asmongoloid viewers
>>583922102Skill issue.
>>583922467Literally impossible to roll an alliance warlock right now.
>>583922114>racist jokes>unfunnyYou would have never survived on the 2004 internet
>>583922567I did and i grew up and out of making fun of other people, might try that for a change huh
>>583922523Did your clitty sense start tingling to let you know?
>>583922114Hey fuck you guy, all my racist jokes are funny.
what if all this optimization and meta building is pointless and raids are piss easy ... ?
>>583922423From my experience there are less assholes and dipshits on RP servers, people tend to behave better. But there are retards in the sense that some of them are absolutely dogshit at the game
>>583922423there are a lot of people who are bad at the game if thats what you consider being retarded
wait, the cat primary stat is strength???
>>583922646Tom is that you?
Orc nerfs when Undead nerfs when Gnome nerfs...nvm we already did those multiple times
Do druid forms still have normalized attack speed?
>>583922423RP servers have the highest concentration of retards.
>>583922775>Undead nerfs when
>>583922692It won't matter because unless you're meta, you still won't get invited because the run might be 30 seconds faster ifbwe get another [meta spec] instead.
>>583922775Wait until you see how broken the new Dwarf racials will be ;)
>>583922753They scale equally with STR and AGI
>>583922808So perfect for us, loony goony pedo troony 4channies.
>>583922320Prove him wrongYou can'tEnjoy the rapefugees
>>583920205that's from a SoD set
>>583922753>>583922794Yes>>583922875No, you're wrong. They get bonus str from talents.
>>583922775I think priests need some more nerfs, smite is doing too much damage
Has any warrior played around with max bloodthrill on beta?How is it in PVE?
have they changed the racials in the last patch?
warlock is going to rape so hard and STILL be one of the least played classes. pets really do filter a lot of shitters, huh?
>>583922523I don't watch any streamers nor do I watch any youtube video that is over 3 minutes.
>>583921396>>583921739I was on board with shaman until I found out the whole drop all 4 totems at one time spell has a 3 second cast time and eats almost half your mana bar. I'll probably just go mage
>>583923031no its the wanding from 1-60
>>583922423>PVP Serversautists who weren't bullied enough>PVP Serversautists that were bullied too much>RP Serversautists that were never bullied
>>583923045>has the attention span of a brick
>>583922423No, but players are much nicer, less toxic and more patient. They are more forgiving of mistakes and allow more room for learning. The downside is that if you're a good player yourself, you have to carry a lot of bad players.
>>583923031It's only underplayed because no elf race can be Warlock at the moment.
>>583923059i noticed wanding fall off around level 20 desu
>>583923031i will not farm souls shardsi will not run out and summon lazy fuckssimple as
Why can't we just agree on what to roll on? The guilds from the general are garbage and no one ever talks in it. At this point I might as well join Olympus when the game officially launches.
>>583923184thats still too many levels just standing around wanding with wands nerfd too
>>583922707i can deal with people being bad, especially if its something from classic. nothing from back then is particularly difficult. But id rather deal with them than dipshits that go red in the face screaming at someone because they pulled an extra pack and their parse is ruined. those people need to get punched in the throat.
>>583923148This pretty much. You'll 100% get healers that OOM every pull
>>583923173The elf races aren't even popular on beta. Skyborne are embarrassing and nobody cares about night elves any moreHuman and undead are by far the most popular races
>>583923243you do the same thing on mage and priest
I've been hearing demo is doing really well at the 30 level cap. I initially wanted to level with it but everyone said affli is too good to pass up. Now I might reconsider since I love the class fantasy of having a powerful demon servant. Can anyone compare the specs?
>>583923059>pet tanks>life tap for unlimited manaWhy would you wand?
>>583923327yes and its a crime against class identity
I think a lot of people are sleeping on Skyborne Druid for flag carrying in WSG. I'll be rolling one for that reason. Sucks to lose War Stomp though.
>>583923068What about RP-PVP-HC servers?
>>583923334>Can anyone compare the specs?
>>583923338i mean its not "unlimited" is it
>mfw locks will be beasts
>>583911235you know, I think I'm starting to understand the appeal of Ret Paladin. The rotation is simple intentionally so you actually have time to keep on eye on your team mates and other times to weave in utility. Not sure why they made ret paladin this super bloated mess in retail.
>>583923334>>583923338affliction is ass now since your pets do way more damage and dots don't do shit without a lot of SP. You wand because it's higher dps than casting any other spell
>>583923173I've seen only a small fraction of skelfs on horde, the racials are just bad so nobody plays it.
>>583921396go horde.
>>583923327Except priests actually do wand all the way to 60 if they don't go shadow spec
Forever race/class combo for this feel?
>>583923468alliance belf health regen racial stacks with the legacy trait btw so you get like 20% health back after killing a mob
>>583923324Pretty sure SKelves are the 2nd most popular race on either faction
>>583923506Mental asylum
>>583923128Nope. I also don't watch TV shows, I prefer movies and I don't use my phone at all when watching a movie.I just have no patience to listen to some faggot ramble like a queer for 36 minutes on a homosexual youtube video.
>>583923410is this real?
>>583923506Warlock
>>583923396Skyborne buffs don't work in BG. And they go away the moment you're killed.
>>583923324>nobody cares about night elves any moreThis one actually surprised me. I saw some numbers that put them barely above dwarves for least played class. This is insane considering they buffed their racials. They used to be behind humans in vanilla, why did the big drop off happen?
>>583923506Rogue orc
>>583923396Skyborne Druids will be mega busted in wsg, they'll glide over mid with the flag and since they can also control the fall mid air it's not really possible to intercept them. Feral swiftness and entangling roots working indoors makes them even more op.
>Blizzard is balancing the game around streamers>All because of a level 30 duel tourney.It's unironically looking grim. I'm worried what they're going to do to suck off streamers when the game fully releases. I honestly hate this parasocial corporate faggotry I really do hope AI gets so good I can just prompt a video game so I never have to worry about forced corporate parasocialism again.
>>583923607Asperger
>>583923636He's not talking about that racial.
>>583923731There's gonna be another pvp tournament at 60 so prepare for even worse nerfs
>>5839235492nd on alliance, 3rd on horde behind orcs. Also WAY behind human or undead levels of popularityIf the race was high/blood elves instead it would be much more popular. Nobody likes asspull elves really
This is actually going to be my first time playing wow. What can I expect?
>>583923706Because nelf players were always the cope race for allies that secretly wanted to roll a belf. Now they have to share a playerbase with the gay blue elves and alliance defectors
>>583923636The glide is the activated ability, not the buff. You can use the glide in BGs. >>583923714Yeah. Grab flag, sprint, glide from top of base, travel form when you land.
>>583923840>>583923740
>>583923731The penance nerf was probably due to the 100k tourney and most streamers going priest. Why Blizzard is balancing around 1v1 is beyond me.
>>583922692Parsing is the real endgame.
>>583923832Yeah but if they added high elves the turtle trannies would boast about it
>>583923898liability reasons
>>583922986Penance and smite got nerfed just now
>>583923840The game is goodMost of the community is toxic and virgin
>>583922753Yes and no. Catform gets attack power from agility and strength, but only when shapeshifted.
>>583923832Trolls brothers...its over...
>>583923506Undead Rogue
>>583923506Male night elf feral druid scowling face mad scientist hair either no beard or the long goatee
>tauren can only play 4 classes>has shit racialsthey should have the best racials in teh game by far because of how limited options they have to play
>>583923706In 2005, my dream was to play an elf mage. I couldn't, of course, so i did night elf priest. Over time I enjoyed their lore and shadowmeld is still probably my favorite racial. Now I can do a (basically) high elf mage, so my decision was made for me.
>>583922775>nerfs...nvm we already did those multiple timesWelcome to the original wotf experience
>>583923740>uhmm ur autistic>said the guy on 4chan in a 43 year old erp mmo chatroom
You will wish you had me in your party
>>583917713and what do you think she and your kids would think of you being a pedophile
>>583923832>paywalled>look worse than the base race they were reskinned fromMetzen does it again!>absolutely abysmal racials so no one can say P2W
>>583924226TRVKE
>>583923951Yeah and smite should be nerfed more so those pesky priests don't even think about casting a spell that deals damage
>>583923808It's so cringe. If all streamers we're to suddenly disappear the gaming sphere would improve one-hundred fold.>>583923898It's just really stupid if they're willing to do something like this now, there is nothing telling what they'll do later. Especially when these devs start to pick and choose who their favorite faggot streamer is. Their class will be overpowered as shit with no downsides. It sets a HUGE negative precedent.
>>583922794yes, bear is locked to 2.5, cat is locked to 1.0. But the DPS matches whatever weapon is equipped with minimum and maximum damage for those attack speeds calculated to match that DPS. Then Attack power is applied i believe, i dont think it was ever stated when attack power is used in those calculations but it is eventually applied because after transforming total bear/cat DPS is higher than the equipped weapon.
>>583924226you will wish you played something else for the first two months when they announce a new wave of paid recolors to get people on alts.
>>583923832>Troll the least popularBetter nerf their racials!
>>583924226You will summon, hand out the best drink and give the shaman bvll first pick of any loot.
PVP NANIKA?
>>583924329Rude. I will not want to 60 ever again. To be fair I didn't try priest in beta since leveling one boring
>>583924103IDON'TFUCKINGCARE
>triple smite damage>triple smite mana cost>add 6 second cooldownI fixed priest leveling
>>583924472shut up and put the wf totem in the bag lil bro
>>583924630>t.ranny
Is enhanced shaman just a better warrior?
>>583924630you care that he has made his problem your problem.
>>583923832anyone else kind of surprised how even the races are outside the human and undead?
>>583923706people love nelves but it's Blizzard that hates them, they are the lowest played on beta because they are the only ally race that didnt get a new class
>>583923832>nobody playing Troll>nobody ever considers Troll when it comes to discussing the best races>"We need to nerf Troll."Why?Also I was surprised to see Dwarf not in dead last for Alliance (close, only 0.4% above last), but then I remembered they have an exclusive class, and to still be that low is very embarrassing actually
>mage waits until we enter the dungeon to make water
>>583924809that's just ai garbage.
>>583919481>ownedcoreThanks for this.
>>583923898The 100k tournament gets lots of eyes on the game, they have to cater to these people.
is dwarf warrior wanted
So sick of seeing 99% of wow forever youtube videos have ai slop thumbnails.
Can they give affliction a real capstone talent? Another fucking drain is so god damn aids, just make drain soul the filler or something and give me a dot
uh oh, tranny melty
>>583924809Tauren are worse and less popular than trolls, they just have an unique class in druid. No, skyborne dont count as a real race
>>583925114I look like this
>>583925082Warriors make excellent tanks yes
>>583925060It's almost obvious who they wanted to win, Ziqo was caught buying 300 gold and nothing happens to him.
>>583925116also incinerate is a dogshit capstone talent for destro too. they really make demonology fucking sick and then gave up after that.
>>583924809Troll is getting buffed though. The devs worded it poorly but they meant orc needs to be nerfed in comparison to troll.
>>583925114Horde loves ai for some reason
>>583925242shaman is better
>>583924235>he says because i posted anime girl on 4chan of all placeslol
>beta is soon to be over>still riddled with bugs>the weapon enchants are still bugged and somehow bugged even worse than when they were first bugged; for instance I just learned judgment doesn't eat the revelation proc, but it still gets the crit so you can judge holyshock and do like 1k damage>insight enchant just doesnt work at all>all the quests that are bugged>all the damage that is bugged>all the changes to xp and classes still comingThere is no way this half baked product is ready to launch. We are paying to alpha test, first 6 months is the beta test, then we have another 6 months of early access, and then finally we might have an unbugged game, until new content they add breaks everything again.
>>583925114I don't even care about ai that much but whenever I see a really ugly slop thumbnail that's spiky as fuck for no reason I instantly associate it with a sort of dumbshit dad diablo gamer who has nothing of value to say.
>>583925114Who the fuck cares? Why would they bother paying someone to make something AI can produce in 2 seconds?
>>583923832crazy that shartmanfoid makes up nearly 100k of the alliance characters.if not for shartmanfoid, there'd be a huge imbalance.
I roll wherever Sodapoopin rolls. Not because I like that faggot, but because the entirety of the competitive PvP scene follows him like a pack of stray dogs.
>>583925114is this real?
>>583925695Yeah he's fat as fuck
>>583925693maybe you shouldn't roll a druid.
>>583925554https://youtu.be/vu2NK5REvWM?t=12Fuck it we do it live!
>>583925631the point is to be appealing to look at and click. it's not appealing to look at so i won't click. simple as.
>>583925554You can definitely tell Blizzard did not expect this kind of hype to build around it and pivoted extremely quickly to having weekly podcasts and scouring community feedback. They are desperate not to fuck this up. Considering how badly they did not want to make Classic+ in the first place I'm fairly certain the orders are coming from up top (Microsoft)
>>583925816you couldn't pay me to play druid. not sure how you came to the conclusion i would.
When does the beta and and all the paypigs lose everything?
>>583925816If Sodapoppin is rolling a druid, I will roll a druid
>>583924793>no night elf paladin with elune themed spellsit's over
>>5839259962 more weeks unironically
do i get more legacy points now at 25+ or do you just get the 15 points from beta access
>>583925631Its all slop, everyone who has those thumbnails are doing shit like>"THEY FIXED IT! THEY CHANGED EVERYTHING!!!"with stupid red arrows pointing everywhere while he onions faces at the camera pointing and its a 10+ minute long video of him reading a blue post where it says they slightly buffed a thing by 2%.
yeah, I already have figured out my first toon, for pve and raiding and my second toon for pvp, now it's time to pay for restedxp
why are trolls cut off of the emerald dream when elves and nelves are just mutant trolls?
>>583925985idk, you'd have to be a sociopath to act as passionate as the devs currently are about the project and have it all be fake. not saying that some of them aren't, just hard to believe all of them would be that good at pretending to care.
>>583925554Why are you niggers so obsessed with this having to be a 110% finished product at releaseDo you even realize how unfinished actual vanilla was when it came out? Do you realize that they have the ability to patch things unlike classic wow which was set in stone? Its like some of you fuckers still have this "NO CHANGES NO PATCHES" shit going wild in your head
>>58392599622nd but it'll be dead by the 19th after all the streamers leave.
>PvP>Human>Hunterkino time
>>583923706There's another elf race for coomers now and they can be mages. No new race/class combos for nelves is criminal. Nelf Warrior is ludokino but playing warr in forever seems like absolute misery.
>>583925693All the streamertards just play whatever the current thing is.
Anyone else kind of hate that dual spec comes at 40? I mean I like dual spec and I don't mind it being in the game, but I feel like it should be a very good gold sink or epic quest chain reward that requires doing some content or something. I feel like it's going to just be 100g at 40 and you either pick dual spec or mount (or both if you're good). I would rather see it be like 5k at 60 if it's just going to be something you buy.
>>583925554So what? I dont mind it being wonky, it makes for memorable moments and shitposting. Would have killed to be there for Blood of Hakkar events. Much prefer that than homogenization and ultra balance.Its not like we're chasing pvp rating or cutting edge achievements. Just let me play the game asap
>>583926227this is a $60 early access. you paid for this.
>>583926043This would have been cool but it would have required effort on Blizzard's part
>>583926227>Do you even realize how unfinished actual vanilla was when it came out?honestly the one thing of the beta that truly reminds me of vanilla is the update cycles of spergout-nerf-spergout-buff
>>583926337You're fucking retarded.
>>583926227Because it just feels sort of lazy? Like a retail expansion would never ship with this amount of basic bugs. Sure there might be an item dupe or some gold exploit or quirky spell interaction that slips through the cracks every now and then, but there is like a SHITLOAD of issues with forever and I really don't see them fixing them all.
AWR
Pet revolución has begun!
>>583926337We should get dual spec at level 20 for free
>>583923706Chinks, foids and troons can play a more petite and conventionally pretty elf race
>>583926337>I am not a healer or tankit’s the opposite. It should be available from 10 and be free. Then you’d have a lot faster dungeon groups being formed.
Nelf shamans when?
>>583926187I never said some of the devs didn't care. As much as people like to shit on Aggrend you can tell he's autistically excited about it. It's simply that the mafia currently occupying Blizzard never wanted to make this project as it would be competing with their retail treadmill, and potentially expose that ((they)) were the problem, not WoW's core audience that they've been ignoring for over a decade to cater to the mentally ill. I hope the lead devs of Forever tread carefully and make this thing a success so Microsoft can fully cut the funding for Blizzards shitpile that is retail and direct it towards devs who don't actively hate their fanbase
>>583926605wow forever classic in ~15 years
>>583925985well I guess if you work at blizzard you have a bit of an ego, and imagine working on and "improving" a game for 20 years only for people to tell you that you fucked it up..... they have been coping for years now
>>583926624just so you know 40 year old racist manchildren are mentally ill as well.
>>583923731Huh, I didn't realize that penance only healed 50% of my HP in 2 seconds if I was a streamer
priest or shaman
Purpose of a nelf warrior?
FVARK...
>>583926763orc and tauren rape bait
>>583926490"no"You're an idiot. Having it be a long grind makes it feel more rewarding, gets more people playing the game. Why do you think OSRS is still alive? Because it takes 90000 hours to get your character complete and even then you still have more stuff to do. If everything in WoW, especially something as sacred as Dual Spec in a Vanilla+ based game, it should be special and time consuming and feel really fucking good when you get it. You can even do it something like "respec 500 times, get a title and unlock dual spec" or some stupid shit. Just something more than "hit level 40 and go buy it at the trainer" which is boring as shit and not a real effort or anything at all. Remember, we have had vanilla without dual spec for years we don't suddenly need it handed to us on a silver platter.I don't want to hit 60 on November 20th and find I have literally nothing to do but grind prebis and then raidlog. That would be fucking stupid. Give me something to work towards, fucking anything blizzard, show us the "horizontal progression"
>>583926624nta but I'm hoping that the Forever Devs are moving in the right direction and the reveal from a few months ago about how California tried to destroy the company led to an internal bloodbath with the old guard taking back power.
>>583926227They have hundreds of people working on this, the standards have gone up since 2004.
>>583925985Yeah no shit. Blizzard was fine with coasting and milking the cash cow forever. Now being owned by Microsoft they are going to have to actually try or get fired
>>583926762Priest if horde, shaman if allianceAssuming you want to have maximum demand
>>583926763Suffer and wear lewd outfits
>>583926579>>583926594retoilets need not be concerned on these matters, fuck off and die. There are more players who don't even want dual spec in the game than your pathetic whiny asses. Also leveling as healer is easy. I've been holy the entire beta and I've been shredding quests solo. The gear helps a lot, maybe try getting good.
>>583926762I always wonderd if I could solo dungeons as priest with mind control.....
>getting the urge to play my fem nelf warrior again>I know I'll be forced to play without windfury because no one will play shaman>Alliance will lose every bgfeels bad
>>583926926i want to have maximum healing fun
>>583926763https://mega.nz/folder/VqIARLLL#kpOC8ed3NG47e8oqjR7sZw/folder/x7wxABJD
>>583927124Priest is the better healer, shaman is a good healer with the best buffs in the game
>>583926753Growing up is realizing everyone is racist.
why don't any of these fucking campfires work, just keeps ticking down to 0 and then going back to 60 seconds
>>583927123I got my friend to agree that we can play horde on the pvp server and we will play alliance on the pve server (since horde is clearly favored in every way). So if you roll pve ally, I'll join your bgs and give you windfury anon.
>>583926227Stop trying to think rationally, you're dealing with 80 IQ doomposters
I'm going to be azeroths most racist dwarfhelp me make a list of racial slurs to call the other races
What's harder for the Horde to attack? Stormwind or Ironforge?
>>583927220i don’t care about numbers i care about gameplay im just not sure which one is more fun :((
>>583927123in tbc i had two people in my guild with warglaives and gladiator. we still lost battlegrounds because that was two spots already wasted with useless melee damage dealers.
>>583927047No, not dungeons at your level, at least. I used to do this in groups (in TBC) and it was a good way to kill off dangerous mobs but they go down pretty fast.
>>583926753The people you are making a strawman about were the original target audience and quite literally a much larger one than the mythical "modern audience" they ended up with once they pushed all the old heads out. One glance at the massive population exodus ever since they turned their game into a braindead gay treadmill proves that. To put it simply, it's bad business.
I like the mage changes>we are nerfing your class because the bots exploited it too much.
>>583927270are you using keybind button to sit or /sit
>>583927283Playing PvE Alliance if I roll a nelf warr but getting a spot would be impossible as a fury or as prot and prot sucks absolute ass for tanking dungeons.
>>583927319ironforge because it takes forever to get there
>>583927319Definitely SW
Said it before and I'll say it again best/coolest way to introduce Blood Elves without opening the gate is to give them a city in Northrend. Kael brought an army there in WC3 and they were shooting any undead trying to enter/leave so why not just keep doing that.
>>583926926>devs mentioned on podcast that they are down for giving horde another priest option (knowing full well that the players are asking for a "pretty" priest and not an "orc priest")>inb4 devs launch forever giving priest to both factions of skelves, but not giving them shamans for alliance
>>583927259>8 hours of being brainwashed by right wing podcastsftfy
>>583927270Same, no idea what that's about. It works like 50% of the time
>>583927501>>583927319What's the nearest flight path for Horde to ironforge? Somewhere in the badlands?
>>583927430Same. Kiting stuff is gay as fuck in general.
hunters bitch about having 1 less slot for arrows but they get an actual benefit for using quivers.Meanwhile warlocks don't get shit for all the soul shards they have to carry.
>>583927475apg coded
>>583927462i'm pressing the sit keybind, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't/sit didn't work eitherdo these things only work if there's a decoration placed down near it?
>HE SWAPPED TO PVEHE SWAPPED TO PVE>HE SWAPPED TO PVEHE SWAPPED TO PVE>HE SWAPPED TO PVEHE SWAPPED TO PVE>HE SWAPPED TO PVEHE SWAPPED TO PVE>HE SWAPPED TO PVEHE SWAPPED TO PVE
>>583927123Alliance has been winning this level 30 BG pretty often, i'm hopeful
>>583927636>pretty priestTauren priests confirmed (I will be rolling one)
>>583927642kill yourself, tranny
>>583927405>no i'm not a racist manchild>tranny tranny tranny video gamessssssss
>>583927319i remember giant horde groups practically living in ironforge for days during phase 2 of 2019 classic. there are tons of buildings there they can sit in that won't draw guards
>583927838VERY raped reply.
>>583927794Dips on Holy Cow name.
>>583927642People of every society have been generally racist since times innumerable, did the podcasts do that too?
Thinking about it, this guy should be a level 51 boss like Theradras. He basically fulfills the same role as Theradras but for wind elementals instead of earth elementals.
Well I was going to main Priest but with the penance nerf I don't know what I will be playing now. Definitely not Holy because I don't want to turn into a healing ghost if someone gets me killed. And SP don't get me invited to shit..
>>583928010Did you have to watch assmongoloid to understand what tribalism is
>>583927319Ironforge. They literally had lore in WC2 about it where Doomhammer said fuck that shit and attacked Stormwind instead.
>>583927774raughs in rp-pve
Which healer is the least cucked right now?
>>583927319Horde raids typically attack SW, kill Bolvar then take the Tram to IF.Stormwind keep is easier to defend but it's removed from the core of the city and thus easy to blitz. Magni meanwhile is right next to the AH and alliance tend to already be gathered there.Horde practically never launches a frontal assault on IF.
>>583926584>petite and conventionally pretty elf raceWho the fuck wants petite?
>>583927636It was fucking retarded that for the longest time our only magic dispell class was priest meaning in raid they were forced to spam that shit like crazy.
>>583928267>>583928267>>583928267new
>>583928171What?
no
>>583928231Transfolx
can we get a better thread
>>583928496That anon is very raped and gaped about Microsoft turning Blizzard back into a gamer centric company.
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>>583927642Right wing just means normal.
Draenei pussy is reserved solely for human men.
>>583927642Right wing is just normal though. You don't need brainwashing to be normal.If you go back in time all of humanity was further right wing than we are.The left wing just went so far off the deep end the milquetoast right seems extreme to you.
>>583918348>Vanilla is pretty much perfect
>>583911768enh dwarf shamanrimworld, elden ring, map games
>>583915214I love it. Things have gotten a lot better and weapons feel good for most situations. Even memey weapons like the air burst (my favorite) are good. There are enough options that you can plug weaknesses with weapons/strats. It's a grand ol time for Democracy.
>>583935467Neat thanks, might spread some democracy with frens then.
