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[PoE 1]
>Curse of the Allflame
https://www.pathofexile.com/allflame
>3.29.3b Patch Notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/26841440

[PoE 2]
>Return of the Ancients
https://pathofexile2.com/ancients
>Forbidden Rites
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3999858
>0.5.5e Patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/4009785

Register
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Resources
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt

Previous jonathan: >>583454530
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pd general?
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i couldnt get pd2 to work when i pirated a copy of old d2 so it and its gay ass server can eat a bag of dicks
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>>583947183
lol i got it to work with a pirated key, retard
its actually really not that good once the novelty wears off
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>>583947562
good im glad it sucks since i cant get it to work
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>>583716046
holy fuck this is so funny
what is the original?
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>>583947767
whats the problem? maybe i can h-
>doro
get fucked you dumb retard
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>>583947767
But you still want to play it
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>>583948381
...
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>>583948381
>>583948706
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I post >>583720349
And now hideouts are on sale
Thank you GGG for reading the thread
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>>583949656
np, anon. Have fun!
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>>583947183
here comes the airplane!https://www.reddit.com/r/PiratedGames/comments/1ihilsb/how_to_play_project_diablo2_without_a_legit/
i just started median xl yesterday.
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>>583951652
i used that when i tried i couldnt get past step 8 it asked for the copy of the game
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>>583952012
sorry to hear that. it worked for me for median, and i was just able to install pd2 but havent played it.
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>>583951652
>>583952738
I played Median ages back and it can definitely work without a legit copy. I do remember the community being hard asses about it when someone else asked. PD2 might just be different.
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>>583952738
no biggie im playing single player games atm and i got d2r warlock reimagined when i want to play some d2
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iirc pd2 requires the 32(?) char converted cd key and has its own cd key verification algorithm
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>>583953597
yup thats what i came across
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>>583953597
good thing I bought d2 all those years ago I misplaced my frozen throne code though
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What streamer guild should I join for PD2
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>he is a jingakh
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>>583954407
[Genshin]
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POE2 has no business being 129GB
What the fuck is GGG even doing?
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>>583954903
they are saving the optimization for 1.0
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>>583954903
129 gb so far btw
Still needs to add more stuff btw
More leagues in the future will add like 30gb a pop btw
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Whens the next Poe league?
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5 weeks from today
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>>583955528
How big my SSD needs to be to feel comfortable about poe2 fitting it in future?
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>>583956343
Tomorrow
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comparison is the thief of joy
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ngl I like when she wears those chokers with the ring on them it's kinda hot
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Game is so shit that it used PD2 as thread starter.

Nice game shitlords. 1.0 will crash and burn so hard and will be infested by saars.

Can't wait for D5
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>the animetrannies are spamming the thread again
dead fucking game
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>>583958657
meant for >>583958653
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bait
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If the game is so good why aren't you playing it though?
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because im multiple expansions behind in ff14 and need to prog
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because I goon
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hot
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>>583943362
Same. Cursed loot seed from not spending >100$ per league. No biggie...
grindnigggergames lost
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>pick league mechanics that aren't worthless dogshit
>enjoy the game
fuck legion
fuck incursion
fuck expedition
fuck betrayal
fuck essence
fuck strongboxes
fuck beyond
fuck ultimatum
fuck bestiality
fuck blight
even fuck delirium
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>>583959393
im playing other games atm finally can since i got a new pc
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>>583961282
>betrayal
fuck catarina with a monster cock til she squirts veiled orbs, dumb goth slut
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>the shitty aoe clone is more enjoyable than half of the shit they forced into the game
i am minemaxxing with harvest subsidies and enjoying this game despite what the devs wish
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>>583961282
i want blight and legion in poe2
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>>583962306
aww
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>>583961282
Allof these mechanics will be saved in 3.30.
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>>583964062
They're deleting them?????
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>>583960997
I got my loot seed taken away for bullying niGGGers during Lake of Kalandra.
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>>583960997
I think I lost mine when I upset a strimmer
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need a cute e gf to look disinterested at my loot while they push their foot into my cock
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>>583965252
>they
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>were
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>no teaser for 3.30
>no announcement
>no roadmap
>no nothing
it's getting delayed to 2027 isn't it. We're getting another phrecia aren't we. It's gonna be late january isn't it.
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>>583966221
That would be so delicious to witness. Make it happen tubatroon.
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>>583966221
nice post poetard
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Tubatroon would rather shit out the latest unfinished piss version of poo2, before he needs to tell his chinamen bosses he won't make christmas.
And you know it's the fucking truth.
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you guys ever think all the hate isn't actually about poe or jonathan, but unresolved complexes in the poster's psyche?
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>>583967882
idk I mostly post about how horny I am for videogame related things what does that say about me
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>>583967882
I think it stems from a fucked up development as an infant, something like 70% of water in india is unsafe for human consumption
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Every accusation is a confession.
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New blizzless d2r season adds async trade
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many i really hope act 5 and 6 arent a slog
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>>583970519
You will long for the days of the interludes.
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Can someone explain to me what is the purpose behind locking skills to a particular unique item? If I want to be a cold sorceress why do I need wield one particular item in order to use 2 fairly simple spells? Doesn't this kill build variety, even for new players who just don't have access to these skills and are instead forced to use the same skills in the same way as everyone else?
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>>583970580
havent played them
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>>583971459
Jon says he wants every unique item to have a unique skill tied to it :)
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>>583966221
i am now reminded that poo1 has the lamest fucking golems
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>>583966221
yep, poo1sissies were warned it was going to happen but all they did was cover their ears and scream
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>>583971892
Why not instead make the unique items give +X to a particular skill, or +% more damage/ defense/whatever to it. That way players who want to specialize in those skills are incentivised to use the unique, but also someone who doesn't have it can still use that skill
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>alt tabbed when entering a new campaign area in sleepoch
>game DOESNT give me 100% infinite clemency and im instantly dead when i tab back in
great fucking game honestly
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>>583966221
GOLEM GET YE GONE
>>583967149
pretty much lol
>>583967882
found the jew
*throws bacon at you*
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>>583968084
It's not about development or water. Bootlicker troon was bullied as a kid + he had no friends. This part is well established during a probe into his psyche some years back. grindnigggergames became his only friend, his surrogate parent.
Now he is obsessed with D4, defending Johnny boy's honor and slurping poo2 slopaganda.
He also has a certain fondness of TriNigger. Maybe that's who he is irl. We will never know
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Why aren't you excited about 1.0?
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Are invert the rules and volatility basically always bis in elemental builds or are they just pob bait?
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>>583975558
Why isn't 3.30 out yet?
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>>583975558
play the game and it'll be obvious.
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What do we think of Heathen?
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>>583979202
is this good
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>>583975558
Endless Atlas
Tubshit movement skills
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vaaled my tyraels might into a rare before reset
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PoE Won
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>>583981605
Nuh uh
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poch flopped
poo1 floppeder
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LET TUBATROON COOK
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>>583981709
Grim WON
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I bought Dildo 4 on sale, no expansion
and I just finished the main campaign
the art direction, music, sound design is just 10/10
there's no discussion about it, stellar stuff
like, the game has such a good atmosphere and detail all around every corner, every design, every location, the production value shows so hard
like even the story man, the voice acting, actual cinematography on my diablo slop, they made me give a fuck about the characters and the world, they actually made a good narrative sequel with actual identity and style.

but then:
>the deep as a puddle mechanics
>the absolute lack of gameplay expression and choice
>horrible level scaling and difficulty implementation
>boring, uninspired, and bland itemization
>the layers upon layers of mtx slop being violently sold on your face

saddening really, I feel they did everything right but fucked up the gameplay
/blog
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>>583986849
d4 has mtx? what the fuck?
is the skill system better than d3?
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>>583986849
>the art direction, music, sound design is just 10/10
Nice bait
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bro gave blizzard money lmao
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>>583986849
it's the way damage numbers explode that made me lose interest in any diablo past 2.
poe is bad when it comes to this as well but at the very least they don't assume everyone will do x million dps and scale their mobs accordingly. blizzard just seems content with letting all of it scale to infinity.
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>>583986849
Based
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>>583995074
Why does the raw number matter to you, let's say you go from 10 to 10k to 10bil to 10 tril damage, but it's always just 5% of a monster's life. What's bad about that?
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Hey guys!

This was a fun mini league, didn't have as much time to play as I wanted but still managed to farm up to over 3k divs, met some awesome guys (shoutout to my homies from #global_4).
As well as had fun crafting/playing the game ( shoutout to @ aer0__ on twitch whos Deadeye Glacial Lance build I followed 9/10 recommend )

Anyway, giving away 2 mage bloods, 1 headhunter and some divines;
1st place - Mageblood + 300d
2nd place - Mageblood + 100d
3rd place - Headhunter + 100d

To enter simply post your favorite song from this month and I'll pick 3 winners within few hours :)

Will dm the winners on here to get your ingame tags!

Peace and see ya'll in 1.0
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>>583996750
because you're not really getting stronger (in the relative sense) in this situation
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>>583997189
well then you go from 5% mob damage at the start to 10% of mob damage
D3 and 4 did it in a pretty well-balanced way, and it does not matter if it says k, m, b or t at the end of your damage number. It's just retards choosing to say "BILLIONS? TRILLIONS OH MY GAWD THAT'S TOO MUCH FOR MY MIND TO UNDERSTAND I DON'T LIKE IT"
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>>583997692
the problem with going from billions to trillions is that it makes the numbers meaningless.
the big damage jumps in poe don't happen until endgame but even then the game is typically designed around ~70k damage being adequate enough for ubers. everything above that is overkill and most heavily tuned builds cap out at a few million.
diablo 3/4 casually allows players to raise their damage by a factor of 10 multiple times from gear upgrades alone. that combined with the way mob health scales means that it really fucks with your sense of scaling. diablo 3 was especially egregious with this because set bonuses alone could easily 100x your damage.
this creates a staircase-like progression system where higher tier challenges are impossibly hard while just 1 tier below the tier you're on is trivially easy. it's just such a miserable way of balancing the game. because poe 1/2's map tiers encompass early endgame to mid-late endgame, it stays smooth throughout (although nightmare does hint at this type of staircase design)
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>>583998163
it's double meaningless when you factor in all the level scaling.
level 1 you do 100k dmg, the enemy takes 2 hits to die.
level 100 you do 100m dmg, the same enemy takes 2 hits to die.
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>play game for hundreds of hours
>maybe see 3 good uniques
>play merc maps for 2 hours
>see 4
nice game poetards
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>>583998163
this is how MMOs die too kek
nigga be using scientific notation doing 8e27 dps per nanosecond on live
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>>583998524
% life damage scaling in lieu of numbers
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>run harvest
>i dont feel angry when i pick a dogshit mechanic because my maps still paid off
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>>583979202
Looks really fun
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>when you get the best mechanic in the game
JUST
LET
ME
ENABLE
IT
YOU
KIWI
FUCK
CUNTS
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business idea : mechanics locked behind completing other mechanics
supplementary business idea : let me enable sentinels you faggots why do you taunt us like this 80% of the atlas passive tree is useless garbage i would almost give you money to make this an option on the tree
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>>583999472
>make the best juicing mechanic the game has ever seen
>spend the next 6 leagues breaking the mechanic apart and turning the pieces into worse mechanics
what the fuck was their problem with sentinel?
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>you can send your slaves into map
LMAO i thought they were just making new maps for me
this is a bit on the nose, literally outsourcing the gameplay to bots
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>i'm either basically immune to damage or things kill me so fast i don't know what the fuck happened
is this normal endgame?
poo1
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>>584000573
It's probably about 50-50. Player damage is multiplicative but the same rules apply to monsters so once you stack a bunch of mods your chance of getting blown up increase. However depending on your stats you're probably not /that/ defensive and getting blown up is really just getting caught
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I never have fun playing POE because of my unwillingness to spend crafting currencies.
My typical league goes:
>craft good enough gear using the extremely common currencies
>never use harvest currency
>entire league is farming vaal axes until i can alt/recomb a triple t1
>don't fix suffixes
>spend the remainder of the league hoarding more currencies that i'll never use
>by the time i'm done with the league my character has a mage blood, a triple t1 axe, and shitty everything else
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>i never wanna become a god in god simulator games because the numbers scare me
you faggots are retarded. grim yawn has been made for you, and look at how that's doing
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Why is /poeg/ sabotaging PoE?
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>>584001513
the poos are the best god simulators on the market.
most arpgs are between bad and decent.
d4 is probably the worst out of the bunch, especially with the campaign skip. everything feels like same until you are in high greater rifts and then it feels the same but slower.
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>>584001932
It's not /poeg/ that's doing that, just some discordtrannies.
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>>584001932
>>584002406
>Why is /poeg/ sabotaging PoE?
not /poeg/, but PoE itself. Is it a good game people want to play? No.
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>>584003379
poe1 is still a great game, there is just no reason to play it now.
they've already said their goal with poe1 is just keeping the core player base happy, and the core player base at this point is mostly weekend warriors that want to fuck around for a few days at league launch.
ggg will use poe1 as a PTR for poe2 mechanics, the game will settle into a comfy maintenance mode with a small dedicated speed running community.
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>>583981605
>>583981709
>>583984814
holy fuck that's why poo1 shitters are so desperate, their game is worse than fucking grim dawn hahahahahahahahahahhaha
Jonathan do the needful and shut it down for good. poe2 chads have won
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>>584004809
>poe1 is still a great game, there is just no reason to play it now.
this is a false statement, because people are actually playing great games. Games older than poo are being played by more people right now. Thinking poo is a success in 2026 is like thinking that gears of war the day of the troon is a success. Or that marathon made shareholders happy.
>ggg will use poe1 as a PTR for poe2 mechanics
great hypothesis, except poo2 was the one thing niGGGers had to get right and failed amazingly, tis a dogshit dead game too. And I'm not saying it, that almighty graph is saying it. As much as you love to bullshit yourself and cope, mathemathics, trends, and graphs are real. Game, poo2, by all of the metrics is dying. Before release. Not looking good at all. And as a person who has played every ARPG except DIV, I can tell you that poo2 plays like dogshit and feels like the waste of my time. I don't feel good or bad, I feel like
>what the fuck am I doing
and then just play something else that makes me feel, at least engaged.
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>>584004809
>playing poo2 campaign anew every time a new league starts
cryinglaughingdying.bmp
Imagine thinking that any gamer, who is not making money by playing video games, ever wants to touch that piece of shit again. lol. I don't know what they were thinking, but I can tell you one thing: I'm never playing a path of exile campaign again. In my entire life. Okay, maybe once, under some unforeseen circumstances. But not willingly and not eagerly.
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>>584005785
basically you're too shit to rush campaign on your league starter in a reasonable time? sounds like skill issue
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>>584006012
I basically don't give a shit about the game, because the game is garbage.
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>>584005507
i always get a kick out of these posts, poe 1 and 2 have numbers that other devs would kill for.
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>>584006742
anon, poe 1 and 2 literally have the numbers of marathon and gears of dogshit: troon infestation.
like, actually literally same numbers, man. you can compare it yourself.
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>>584006894
>poe 1 and 2 literally have the numbers of marathon and gears of dogshit: troon infestation.
marathon peaked with less than 90,000 concurrent players.
gears of war peaked with 30,000 concurrent players.
poe 2, 0.5 peaked with 420,000 concurrent players.
poe 1, 3.29 peaked with 187,000 concurrent players.
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>>584007121
>Replying to that retard.
He's just baiting you into bumping the thread, just close the tab and go play some vidya m8, leave him to wallow in his misery spamming about poo or w/e, alone.
We will all return around exilecon.
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>>584007121
>the gayme peaked
Not sure whether you're trolling or just fucking retarded, anon. Peak doesn't fucking matter. Look at picrel. Is it a great game? Do people really love it? Do you really love it? See same number more or less like poo1? Exactly. Unwashed masses dislike both, but for completely different reasons. Not that it matters, because both are now ded.
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>>584007421
>He's just baiting you
it's not bait, poe just has this effect on mentally ill people.
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why is no one posting? seems like the game is dead and no this is not the usual "quiet before the storm". these boards are more alive even during these down times. something fishy is going on and I refuse to look away. eos soon?
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>>584008621
This is pretty typical for when the game is dead, nothing new has happened since allflame
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the second poop is gonna leave skidmarks, isn't it
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>>584008621
it looks bad for poo1 sisters, but poe2 hype will start at Exilecon in 1 (one) month. so yes, quite literally "quiet before the storm". buckle up anon :^)
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i tried returning back to the game and there's nothing else to do
I still can't see myself chaining maps until the next point of interest then setting up multiple maps and tablets again to the next location
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>>584009089
the hype for poe2 has ended 2 years ago. First of all the poe2 is not even what we were promised. No more skill links, because of the new interface, less currency, etc, etc.. are all obsolete promises. Game has been enshitified right away.
Secondly, the huge ad campaign when even the japanese vtubers were paid to play the game for a few hours is now over and is likely never hapenning again. It is safe to assume that the vast majority of all gamers are aware of poo2. Game has failed to generate a steady, respectable in size playerbase.
Third, no. stop coping. Nobody is waiting for years for a decent crafting system, better endgame, full campaign, and a sword. It is autismal cope of people who are paid to play the game OR just few remaining fanboys.
Not how the world of video games functions. You have just one massive shot for a big win upon the initial release, whatever version number you choose to call it and the gamers en masse either adore the game or reject it. poo has been rejected by the average gamer. now twice (poo1 and poo2). More normies playing D4 (insert D4 bad meme) is a clear sign of the failure of poo to appeal to the gamers.
Especially in 2026 with pretty much every niche game already existing, catering to any taste in any genre, and AI, and vibe coding. It has never been more over for the gaming industry at large and also the poo games.
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>>584009113
i dont really think the problem is the infinite atlas, there is just too few mechanics to do and tablets are a dogshit system. imagine if you had a lot of temple type content that you could unlock while running the inbetween maps, or more varied environments, extra stuff like the new big abyss rifts. its just too barren right now
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I don't care for Torchlight but i'm watching the Mathil stream and listening to Andre talk is so relentless and confusing. I feel like PoE isn't this confusing. Its like "by doing the mechanic you get mystic energy that you can change to noble pride but if you complete the immoral synergy you get ignoble pride which can be used to chaos desecrate your noble gems with chromatic energy" and its just like this non-stop
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>>584009759
a lot of words for a seething poo1 fag.
look anon, your game is 13 years old and no new player will start an old point&click game in 2026. and GGG knows it.
poe2 is and will be the #1 arpg in the foreseeable future since there is literally no better alternative. blizztards will never compete again even if they do some d2 remastered dogshit with d5, nobody cares
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>>584009784
>the problem isn't exactly the problem
>we need to add more bloat
Classic Tubatroon
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>>584009759
>Game has failed to generate a steady, respectable in size playerbase.
what would the size of that playerbase be exactly? poe 2 is already one of the top played games on steam every league.
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>>584010159
the endgame is lacking in content and gets boring and repetitive too fast. whats your argument here, that we need less stuff to do? retard
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>you see the maps aren't too big, we just need to make you sprint (and trip) to traverse them and give you retarded waypoints
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>>584010347
>I can't press one dodge button
>muh game bad
this is the level of poo1tards. lol, lmao even.
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>>584010419
the maps are too big and tacking on 3 bandaids just so you don't have to make the maps smaller isn't a solution
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>maps too big
introduce checkpoints and sprint
>tripping while spriting
ok introduce pathfinder with stun immunity while sprinting
>nerf pathfinder the very next patch

you cant win with ggg. why dont they remove the retarded tripping.
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>>584010480
the solution is adding movement skills, not making the maps smaller. and even this has already been solved with weapon swap tech
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>>584010037
>a lot of words for a seething poo1 fag.
this is not an argument and you know it. I don't play poo1. you're coping hard. massive amounts of cope.
>look anon, your game is 13 years old and no new player will start an old point&click game in 2026. and GGG knows it.
this is not the issue. People play great video games from 30 years ago just fine, esp. with new good patches or adjustments. People play the original UT, Red Alert, even dogshit like Warzone2100. Having 100 fanboys is NOT an indication of success. A video game can be good, appealing to normies, dead, and still played by 200 people. Poo is just dead. I know a dying, failed project when I see it. 100 players (+bots) is the reality of poe.
>poe2 is and will be the #1 arpg in the foreseeable future since there is literally no better alternative.
there are alternatives, you just can't stop coping. poe2 is not even close to being #1 arpg, because literally nobody gives a shit. People are still playing Diablo II as you mention it yourself. You don't consider DII to be a success, so why are you coping about poo2? Novelty? There is no novelty. poo2 objectively is a bad game, there is nothing more to it, really. Maybe not as bad as Grim Dawn, but people, as numbers clearly indicate, would rather play something else. An entirely different genre even. Gaming doesn't revolve around ARPG's, and inside of the genre, doesn't revolve around PoE. It is again one of those copes a handful of fanboys invented. It is the same story in gaming, I have seen it hundreds of times. What doesn't help are the streamers, who are PAID to play the game and help generate this artificial cope. The same streamer you think praises PoE, turns around and plays the Diablo Mobile p2w the very next day, if he was paid to play it. Or Last Epoch because of the new season. Or even World of Warcraft Forever Beta Test for fuck's sake.
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>>584010551
the solution to maps being too big is.... *drumroll* making them smaller, no amount of being proud of your huge empty maps makes them good to keep in
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>>584010543
>have toothache
>solution: just eat liquid food, under no circumstance go to the dentist and have your tooth fixed or pulled
bravo!
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>>584010596
most maps are already small, there are like 2 tilesets that generate large maps. and i mean maps that are actually large, not corridor maps like the ravine that take 30 seconds to run through.
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>>584010596
I dont like this idea. This would only make slow and clunky builds more viable. I prefer zoom and getting rewarded for being zoomy not the other way.
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>>584000184
3.30 is gonna be sentinel 2.0 because it was the single best map juicing mechanic that exists besides affliction which will never ever return or Chris himself will throw a molotov cocktail into the office
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>>584010596
big maps can fit more of whatever mechanic you run. and if you zip through the map regardless how is it a problem?
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>>584010292
Cherrypicking goalpost moving mongo.
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>>584010197
well, it depends on the game. A single player offline video game is completely different from a live service garbage. Live service garbage has to grow, simple as. You can start with 2 players, but as long as the base grows the game is alive, popular, success, whatever. The moment the live service stops attracting customers is a turning point to death. The moment players start leaving (in poo terms league to league numbers) is the moment the game is already dead, just the matter of time, till everybody except the most autistic fanboys (few hundred) remain.
The funny case of PoE 2 is that "the game hasn't even been released yet cope", but it is already dead. Numbers don't lie.
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>>584010557
how is poe2 dead when the full release is Dec 11? poe2 already beat poo1 in all time player count during paid early access. normies and poorfags will join when it's f2p and your usual streamer tranny and jewtube fag is shilling the shit out of it.
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>>584010916
be silent
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>>584010851
>Numbers don't lie.
0.5 had over 400k players on launch?
those numbers put it in the top 50 highest concurrent games on steam.
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>>584010960
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>>584011096
bsd
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>>584010767
you're never gonna "zip" through anything in poop2
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>>584010916
>how is poe2 dead when the full release is Dec 11?
because the game has been released two years ago whether you like it or not. you contradict yourself in your own post, lol.
>poe2 already beat poo1 in all time player count during paid early access.
so did LostArk, so did No Man's Sky. They've beaten both, combined. It was a slaughter. What is your point here? No Man's Sky is still considered a failure, perceived as a thing of the past. Lost Ark is dogshit p2w. Poe2 is the same story as No Man's Sky, except, it isn't even decent/good yet.
>normies and poorfags will join when it's f2p
normies and poorfags have tried the game out already during massive hype upon initial release and then during free weekends. It's over. Stop coping. The only thing joining the game when it is f2p (which they should not do now and probably won't go f2p lol) are the jeet and sea bots for more rmt.
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>full release with 25% of classes missing after a 2 month beta that was supposed to last 6-12 months
:)
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>>584011057
over400k bots you mean. A number doesn't mean anything, what matters is the trend and the cycle of life of a video game. poe2 numbers are on the downward trajectory, which means, that the live service game is dead. The live service game is only alive when the number goes up patch to patch or league to league in poe. If 0.5 had 900k players, that would have been an argument and there would have been real, true hype, and admiration of the game. 400k is like half of the initial release. Game has lost half the playerbase already.
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>f2p will be so goog it's gonna be incredible we will hit a billion players
nobody is getting on a sinking ship, faggots
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>>584011373
25? more like 50%
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>12 classes planned
>9 released
>9/12 reduces to 3/4
basic math sure is hard in 2026
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>>584010419
>xhe talks like a disabled zoomer
lamo, lol even, lol
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>>584011643
• Total active Ascendancies: 18 classes
• Total planned Ascendancies: 36 classes (3 per base class)

I only count viable working ascendency classes. Shit like warrior is basically unfinished and doesn't count.
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>>584011454
>400k is like half of the initial release. Game has lost half the playerbase already.
poe 2 0.1 had 578k concurrent.
that puts poe 2s live service retention into the "god tier" category.
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Since its meant to be 1.0 do you think they'll have act 6? it'd be weird to not have act 6 although i can see them doing a "the beast wins and that leads to maps" thing
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>>584011762
some ascendancies will never be good, but they're still released.
if you go by ascendancies, then it's still not even close to 50%.
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>>584011007
I just can't enjoy videogames anymore, I played aion for 19 hours, got to max level, can't log in anymore, too bored, the game is alright, the problem is me
if they announce 3.30 I'm not gonna play it either, I'm too burned out on poe for this year, I think I done challenges in like 5 leagues in 2026, maybe I'll be recovered and fresh for poo2 1.0, but certainly not for 3.30
been thinking about playing wow pooever but blizzard hasn't done anything right in 20 years, forever is going to be shit again, they will fuck it up
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>>584011905
0-2% pick rate (based on poe ninja) is basically unreleased/not finished.
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>>584011769
can you stop coping? Okay, I will explain in other way. Let's say poo2 releases fully, even with a new class, and a sword. Amazing.
Day 1: 5.000.000 players full release of poe2. so amazing you even took the cope mask off.
Day 2: 20.000 players again. The game is dead.
savyy?
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>>584011769
the thing is: the graph is clearly pointing down, and that's always an issue with live service games. nobody wants to start playing a dying live service game.
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>>584011906
It's literally all the OG characters, that's odd. They should've really ditched the original ascends when they split the 2 games
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>>584012097
pure, unbridled feature creep and hubris, concentrated in one shithead's brain.
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>>584011958
0.1 in 2024 had 578,000 concurrent players.
0.5 in 2026 had 421,000 concurrent players.
>but what if the game lost 99.99% of players from day 1 to day 2!?!? that would be bad!
yeah it would be bad, but that didn't happen.
>>584011967
is it really dying when every league it is in the top 5 most played games on steam?
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>>584012309
Every peak is lower and lower, so yes - that's dying.
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been a while since i posted this, but it's still true, and no amount of hopecoping by fiverr jeets will change what's happening
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>>584011967
>put random mspaint like over graph
>LOOK IT'S DEAD
can't make this shit up.
1.0 release will be fun to watch
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Lets be honest if you were to map the trajectory of PoE2 it will hit like 0 players in august and if you were to map the trajectory of PoE1 it would hit about 2 billion players in 2090
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>>584012309
>yeah it would be bad, but that didn't happen.
the numbers you have posted did not happen indeed, because you don't consider the novelty factor.
I know what the problem is. You know fuck all about businesses or how to run them. Basically, the initial numbers means fuck all. What actually matters is that your business is viable day to day, month to month, over the years. Losing customers as the time goes on means that you need to change shit up drastically or maybe consider opening a new businesses, and maybe ditching the old one.
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LET TUBATROON COOK
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>>584012483
what do you mean random? it's a trend line that touches 4 out of the 6 peaks and points down rather steeply. anything but this would be random.
desu i am being generous by saying 0.3 and 0.4 touch it, because even they are slightly below it.
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wunners will commit mass suicide when 1.0 release and their doom narrative falls apart kek
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>>584012582
>muh trend line
you need to go back
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>>584012494
many say this
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>>584012593
manifest harder xister! we need everyone on the hoefront!
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>>584012528
>the novelty factor.
0.5 had more players than 0.2, 0.3, and 0.4, shouldn't the novelty have worn off after two years?
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>>584012658
>attack the poster, not the argument
nice projection hopejeet. your ad hominem shows you know i'm right.
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>>584012593
no, you fucking retard, this is not how the dead games work. The number on the day of release doesn't matter. What matters are the days after and esp. the months after. Basically what matters the most are two new "leagues" or major patches after the so called "full release".
And in case it isn't fucking obvious to those live service gamers who are clinically retarded, if it repeats (and it will) the pattern of the early access release, then the live service game is completely dead and it is time for a funeral.
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>>584012582
>it's a trend line that touches 4 out of the 6 peaks and points down rather steeply.
it touches 2 out of the 6 peaks, technically 3, if you consider it travelling through the middle of the 0.5 peak.
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>>584012658
>inventing a scenario that contracticts every provable fact
adorable
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>>584012876
you missed the part where i said i was being generous
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>>584012780
I'm not believing in some shizo painting random lines in a graph for a paid early access game because he is seething that poo1 got beat by literal grim dawn. see >>583984814
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>>584012704
nu-uh. there are multiple explanations, such as checking out after a year of progress, and considering the fact the game has gotten worse, none of them are good for copemaxxers.
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>>584012959
you're right, a line that touches the majority of peaks is totally random and pulled from my ass, simply because it contradicts the reality you seem to have invented
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I have had it with you guys. I give up.
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Yeah, whatever.
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>trend points downward for 2 years straight
>Noooo you guys don't get it, 1.0 will fix EVERYTHING
how do mofos even get here? also, what will they pivot to when 1.0 doesn't deliver?
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>>584013024
who is more believable
>shizo with mspaint lines
vs
>f2p release of the #1 arpg in the market as a live service game which will further receive massive content drops even after 1.0 release
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>>584013204
Don't trust either one, just trust the numbers. And the numbers don't look so good, frogman.
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maybe the doomertards were right all along. I dont know anymore
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genshin won
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how much does ggg pay per hopepost? i need some rupees to restore some of my lost izzat
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Hopesissies will get their short-lived victory with 1.0 and then doomchads will feast when the following leagues have lackluster turnout.
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>>584013138
realistically the most important to the game itself streamers will be paid to play poo2 again, so all their viewerbases will login at least once, but more like three times. so that's probably a few hundred thousand.
GGG should pay Asmongold again, because as wow beta shows, he can easily pull a few hundred thousands into the game by himself.
Question is, what will happen when the marketing campaign is over and everybody moves onto the next whatever release, because the streamers will move onto the next paid promotion.
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>>584013024
>a line that touches the majority of peaks
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>>584013310
genshin might have won, but the moment you become a genshin player you lose
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>>584013343
Asmon got big from WoW and you can't compare a community-based game to a game that is basically single-player. His impact would be miniscule.
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>>584013361
this is the actual line btw using math not the red pen tool
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>>584013361
the 0.5 anomaly and the 0.2 anomaly are just outside the trend, what do you mean?
>>584013343
asmon will be busy playing wow
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>>584013361
>lower highs, lower lows

yeah its a trend
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>>584013138
>what will they pivot to when 1.0 doesn't deliver?
1.1 obviously
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>>583979202
Looks good, tired of topdown actionslop because it will never, ever have good combat
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>>584013476
>>584013361
* pic
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>>584013552
the point of top down is never the moment to moment combat, just play a good soulslike for that
>>584013582
so you mean to say that the actual math line looks almost exactly like the "touch the tops" line? what even is the point of your post.
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>austist thinks he can do TA on a steamchart
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>>584013582
so the drop was from 578k to 421k?
that doesn't seem very extreme for a 2 year long early access.
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anyway im gonna go play some last epoch now
have fun posting on 4chan
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>>584013668
nobody is inventing any TA rules here, faggot.
the line simply touches the tops of the peaks, and it don't look good for your game. the whole issue is that games that are circling the drain repel new players, because nobody wants to get on a sinking ship - which is what poo2's numbers indicate, any way you look at them
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>>584013449
>>584013504
Asmongold doesn't even like the wow forever beta and he has stated as much. He was clearly paid by Blizzard to generate hype around it and log into it. He has also stated that he is most interested in building organizations up, not playing per se. He also clearly stated that he has grown out of it, out of typical gameplay. His lines focusing on visuals, etc, indicate a sponsorship too. He does his job, he is selling the game to the masses.
If you watch the current streaming trends, overall, everybody is playing 2-3 video games a day, on consecutive days too. You can easily tell that something is a paid promotion, esp. since it is illegal to not disclose a sponsorship in certain countries. Thanks to this we know who runs ad campaigns for video games and when.
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anyway im gonna go play some last epoch now
have fun posting on 4chan
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>>584013787
good luck building any sort of organization on poop2
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The current macro trend for the Path of Exile 2 Steam Chart is strongly bullish, despite experiencing a typical short-term cyclical correction. While player counts naturally drop by 70% to 80% two months into any given league cycle, the overall multi-month support floors are escalating ahead of the game's ultimate catalyst.
The game is leaving Early Access and executing its full Free-to-Play 1.0 Launch on December 11, 2026. This transition drops all financial barriers to entry and represents an massive, permanent structural breakout for player metrics.
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>>584013784
how is a game that launches into the top 5 most played games on steam every league a sinking ship?
you hating a game doesn't mean the game is a failure.
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>>584013894
nobody said it's a failure, i am sure they made tons of money with EA
but it's failing hard as a forever-game and the trends show it. it used to launch into top spot first, then into top 3, now it's top 5 only. soon top 10, 20 and so on, it don't look good.
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>>584013894
>you hating a game doesn't mean the game is a failure.
I don't care about anyone else so it actually does :)
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for all the poop2 hopetroons here, this is what a successful seasonal live service game looks like, including launch and early access period
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>>584014273
HOLY BASED
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>>584013979
depends entirely on how well 1.0 performs, and whether GGG can keep making interesting content for the game afterwards
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>>584013979
>it used to launch into top spot first
no, it didn't lol.
counter strike hasn't dipped below 1m ccu in years.
if you meant global best selling games, then yeah, 0.5 was the 4th best selling game on steam. which isn't that bad for a dead f2p game 2 years into early access.
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>>584014330
it'll underperform and they can't make good content to save their lives, as evident by the last 2 years.
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>>584014361
yes it is bad.
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>>584014361
>game from 2012 is still nr 1
how is it even possible.
all the other slop released in the last 2 years is just fotm streamerhype, and CS is still just undisputedly a GOOD GAME
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your game isn't bald so it failed.
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>>584014315
it took 2 and a half years for poop1 to see player growth.
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We are already discussing some steamchart jpeg for 100 posts and its still 1 month until (only) exilecon.
This is gonna get ugly.
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>>584014581
and you would think that ggg learned their lesson from that
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>>584014492
Because Valve aren't retarded. They just did an engine upgrade for CSGO instead of letting one of their lead devs play a hero shooter and determine that a tactical, competitive shooter actually needed ultimate abilities and classes like Jonathan would do if he was in charge.
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>>584014685
imagine CS2 with dodgerolling, needlessly large maps and 2-3 gun combos
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>>584014685
valve DID make deadlock
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>>584014630
poe 2 is more successful that poe 1 ever was and it prints money.
there is a reason doomtroons speak in a hypothetical future tense.
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>>584014868
holy moly, this is what a successful early access game looks like, this graph looks way better than the poop2 one
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>>584014965
That's cool if you're Tencent or Jonathan. Too bad it's a worse game than PoE.
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>>584014982
poo is a seasonal game though
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>>584014965
poop2 is a one-time cash grab, versus the slowly built steady success that is poe1
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>>583976947
unholy trinity is better than invert
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>>584015083
>a one-time cash grab
that has been going for 2 years straight?
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62 days until 1.0.
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>>584013784
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>>584015242
28 days until Exilecon to build up hype for the big one in 62 days
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>>584015536
why would i be hyped for a tubbed turd?
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LET
TUBATROON
COOK
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>>584016351
shit was burnt mid 2025
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>>584016082
Jonathan is just waiting for Exilecon to have some massive announcements for poe2 chads
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>>584016390
Bro i don't care. I just vent my need for an autism outburst and post again in an hour or so.
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>>584016441
i wish i was capable of this amount of cope
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>>584016650
>cope
it's their biggest yearly corporate event(tm) of course we will hear some big news. don't need cope just a functional brain
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I think poe2 is a good game, both games are good, in my case I am just burned out, they launched too many leagues this year, most of them really sucked, the game lost it's magic because they shipped too many failures, a good 6 months away from it should fix this
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>>583984814
>patch 1.3.1 buffed my main build but not the one I wanted to be buffed
sux
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>>584016441
>The surprise: ALL CLASSES RELEASED WITH 1.0! GASP! SHOCKER!
Hopetroons really think 1.0 will suck their dick and cook them a meal afterwards
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>>584017194
>doomers unironically think that the only thing ggg are going to show at exilecon is swords
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>>584017531
>hopetroon hasn't been here for exilecon 2023
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I come from 2027 and i can not stop playing poe2, it's great and i love it!
I have attached a video of me playing the game, as proof.
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>>584017693
XAAR IS DOING THE TUBFUL
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>>584017567
wasn't that when they announced poe2 would ship as a standalone game?
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>>584016843
>yearly
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>>584018094
it was indeed, and everyone was expecting them to show endgame or announce a date, but they did neither.
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>>584016843
the big news is the ascendancies for duelist and just draining more money from retards.
maybe the big announcement is that they won't go f2p after all, who knows
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how would you react to pay2play ascendency classes?
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>>584018669
>be GGG
>sell tickets
>fly fags from all over to NZ
>Jonathan on stage: uuuh duelist and swords am I right boys?
yeah no, that's not how it works anon..
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>>584019146
i half expect them to release the rest of the classes and ascendancies.
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>>583979285
its not out yet
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>>584019146
they'll show off the ascendancies and talk about how they made the ascendancy, nothing special
maybe they talk about poe1 plans and poe mobile, who knows. if exilecon 2023 is any indicator, it'll be underwhelming as fuck.
>>584019707
lmao for sure sister
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tub lost
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>>584020668
>poo1
lel
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>>584020834
13.5% better reviews for poe1.
your tub lost.
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>>584020876
4 times more active player in last 24h even though 0.5.5 is repeat of 0.5
poo1 xisters in shambles
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>>584021064
you misspelled bots
also, tubbed review score
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>>584020520
>the keynote of exilecon will be showing off 2 ascendancies.
i think some doomers might actually kill themselves next month.
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>>584021152
what do you mean? the keynote in 2023 did exactly this:
>It's now 2 games
>we went back on a lot of promises
>poop2 is now a soulslike
>we have no endgame to show
>we don't know when it will release
ggg isn't afraid to look silly on stage
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TUBATROON SAYS TRANS RIGHTS
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>>584021112
>you misspelled bots
yeah because poo1 is completely bot free, right?
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>>584021430
nowhere nearly as infested as 2, but it does have them.
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>>584021231
>It's now 2 games
announcing that they turned an expansion into a full fledged standalone game is a pretty huge announcement.
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>>584021152
I had AI summarize the keynote for exilecon 2023, and it don't look good chief. I expect the same level of news from this year's exilecon.
also lol
>The closed beta starts on June 7, 2024
>>584021562
yeah, but is that really convention worthy? exilecon 2023 was very very very underwhelming, i expect them to show a bunch of the new acts this year, which is also not really convention worthy
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>>584021524
trade in poe1 was literally kept afloat by bots for the better part of a decade.
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>>584021771
yeah and now they are no longer needed
funny how that goes.
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>>584021690
wait this is all they talked about in 2023? it's not looking good hopesisters
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>>584021818
i guess that explains poe 1s player numbers.
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>>584021963
i'd say it partially does, but another big factor is the obvious involuntary self-sabotage ggg has been doing on themselves for 2 years now. both poo1 and poo2 suffer from it
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PoE mobile would be nice
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>>584022467
Sorry sar, cancelled
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>>584021690
it's going to be a hype train for the 1.0 launch.
they are going to show a fat chunk of act 5, classes/ascendancies, whatever new mechanics they are adding for 1.0.
then everyone is going to piss and shid themselves for 4 weeks straight about how much ggg cooked.
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>>584022940
They'll show the duelist ascendancy and 2 new acts, nobody really gives a fuck about acts. To the contrary, they're hated already.
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3.30 will save 1.0
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>>584023181
>nobody really gives a fuck about acts. To the contrary, they're hated already.
exactly. I don't care what the story or the acts are. I'm never playing poo campaign ever again. At best this shite campaign is an obstacle to the worst endgame in history of gaming.
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>>584023181
the state of doomers.
please don't kill yourself during the exilecon livestream, i want to make fun of you to pass the time leading up to 1.0
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>new acts
>new league mechanic
>duelist ascendancies
>probably a druid ascendancy and arcane archer to round those classes out
>sekhemas buffs
>poe1 3.30 stuff
Hard to really expect anything more from exilecon. GGG has never exceeded expectations with the pace of poe2 content, and I'm not going to hold my breath and think that's going to change. Even hoping for TotA seems like a stretch given their comments.
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>>584023772
Do you really care about acts? It'll be the main focus, they probably cooked up some more bullshit and "nonlinearity" for acts 5 and 6
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>>584023858
Grim but realistic
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>>584023772
nobody sane is going to watch those trash ads, you mongoloid.
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>>584024698
the implication being that doomers are going to watch it start to finish?
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>>584023858
poe1 stuff has to be delayed, if they release poe 1 3.30 1 month before poe2 1.00 I will chargeback all money I ever spent on path of exile
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>>584025106
Your bank will deny your request, and you will still continue to play like the mazed rat you are.
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It's enough to just stop giving them money. I did, GGG doesn't deserve it anymore.
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>>584023181
I give a fuck about the acts. It's been bugging me what the fuck act 6 will be if act 5 is Oriath. Trarthus is too far away and wouldn't make sense with the current endgame, so that's out, and we don't really know of any other notable places in Wraeclast that could top Oriath, unless they're bringing it alllll the way around and we go back to Sarn and end the game at the top of the Sceptre of God
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>>584025771
Act 6 is named "path of exile" and will most likely be the player character finding and getting back sin, who went on a lonely pilgrimage in exile at the end of poe1. He went all the way south, wherever that is.
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>>584025953
I meant innocence not sin.
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>>584025953
Eh idk, I feel like Innocence will show up in act 5 to help with the potential Beast fight there. His was a good setup tho yea, it'd be a shame if they don't use it
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>>584026136
No, they set it up all the way back in poe1 3.0, he says to go get him whenever we have a need for him. Considering the act name and where innocence went, it's perfect (and very lame)
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>>584023858
Word on the street is they have a Tubatroon Burlesque Tub act planned.
Fingers crossed!
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>>584026432
I know the setup, it's my single favourite piece of lore in the game
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>>584026671
From the data mined Infos it's only a short trip to fetch Innocence, and then it goes directly into the beast where I assume Innocence sacs himself to kill or contain the beast
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they will release 1.0 and 3.30 both on Dec 11. they are different games now so no problem for poo1 fags, r-right? :^)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1mrrfxv/act_5_and_act_6_known_bosses_and_areas_heavy/
looks very underwhelming
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>>584027164
They will release 3.30 the week after exilecon, and it will get btfo'd by being sandwiched between wowforever and gta6. The doomies here will cry sabotage
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>>584027709
>it's not sabotage if it's just incometence and mismanagement
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>>584027370
at least I hope Act 5 in Oriath will up the gore and degeneracy. Ursea was such a disgusting reveal back then. Killing a literal aborted fetus monster is peak dark fantasy.
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>>584027769
You're right. Proper management would be announcing eos instead of 3.30.
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>>584027709
Jonathan can't stop winning
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>>584027909
>Ursea
Fight so old we still had 5 flasks...
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that ursea fight looks so bad, who the fuck thought this was showcase worthy
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>>584025953
we will wash up on lioneyes watch and work our way up to sarn
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>>584028507
I want a Poo2 version of Dominus
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love to see these comments, fuck vision poo2
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mario maker league where you make your own map/trial and other players have to defeat it
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>>584028716
that would be kino but i think their making wisps2
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>>584028716
what keeps people from either making unbeatable cancer maps or giga free loot pinata maps?
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>>584028936
no loot, just for challenge :)))))
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>>584028716
500 1hp Uber Mavens
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>>584029001
that will go over well in a loot-based arpg
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>>584029001
Yea, like how ubers were supposed to be :)))))))
And then they moved all the good normal version drops to them :))))))))))))))))))))))))
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it's a disgrace how a company of GGGs calibre can't even squeeze out a game in under 2 years, after missing the beta start by half a year, and after the beta took 2 years instead of "maximum 1 year"
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it's pretty amazing how the entire playerbase has unanimously decided that wildwood wisps in poe2 are completely useless.
what was the usecase for them when 200% deli exists? Even just regular triple tablet deli on maps gives more rewards than wisps
Wisps
>are inconsistent to gather
>wildwood layouts suck
>blue wisps are useless
>ritual tablet tax to increase wisp count
>can't coexist with deli which is already superior
>don't seem to have any effect on the map except maybe sacred wisps if you manage to gather more than 5k of them
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>>584029050
>>584029480
trust the fucking vision
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>>584029519
Wow, that's crazy.
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>>584029519
tubbed mechanic
tubbed game
tubbed company
it's what happens when the bald tard wrangler leaves and the inmate runs the asylum
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this could've been poe2 if poe2 was a good game
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>>584030262
is that real I didn't know dota 2 was still played so much. what the fuck wow.
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is every class viable in pd2 or is it still "play sorc for mf farm or ur retarded"
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>>584029484
>launch the early access in the middle of summer
vs
>delaying it for a few months and using the 30 million tencent gave you for advertising to travel around the world to all the game conventions and launch it right before christmas
>launching 1.0 for free after a few months of early access
vs
>dragging it out and making a bunch of money from the paid early access
it's a real head scratcher.
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>>584029484
>under 2 years
its been 9 years
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>>584030347
dota 2 is the best game ever made
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>>584029519
wisps should empower the player for a long duration, creating an aoe around them that empowers monsters. There, fixed it for you ggg
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>>584030262
ok what the fuck that is insanely consistent. the peak was 10 years ago and it was only 300k higher than right now? Jesas...
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>>584030540
that was an atlas keystone for ghosts in poe1
poe2 isnt allowed to do things that poe1 did because....reasons
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>want to try chayula
>complete trial
>switch to chayula
>missing skill: archon of chayula
>wtf.png
>need to complete fucking breach quest line to acquire skill on a now busted build
t-thanks Jonathan
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>>584030540
>There, fixed it for you ggg
bricks offscreen builds though
you just made it worse, somehow.
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>>584030780
>bricks offscreen builds though
That's a positive, anon
>>584030689
I know it is, and I pulled directly from it, same as how whisps are literally reskinned ghosts
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>>584030965
>That's a positive, anon
if you're jonatroon and want to force players into rollslop and SLOW. METHODICAL. IMPACTFUL. MEANINGFUL. GAMEPLAY.
It's you isn't it Jonathan. Get back in the tub. Go on get outta here
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>>584031069
he looks so dreamy.
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>>584030429
then why not state these things beforehand? nobody had any exception for dates, they set these expectations and then broke them.
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>>584029519
Nah fuck setting up 200% deli all the time and literal nothing travel nodes make me want to shoot myself so not-Affliction works for me. I got five of those 16 div omens in Wildwood so it’s all good
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i almost feel bad for streamers who will be forced to do freshstarts in poe1&2 every 2 months to feed their family
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>>584031069
>>584031249
you know exactly what he's thinking about here
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>>584031371
these faggots could also swap games or just get a job
also, you're implying we'll get 6 leagues a year, split to both games. this has worked so well recently...
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>died on the interludes monkey
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>>584030536
ASSFAGGOTS just never appealed to me and still don’t
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>>584031592
even a fresh campaign start of poe2 every 6 months is too much for me so........
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>>584031724
just wait until we got 6 acts instead of 4
ggg has managed to ramp the shittiness of the acts the further you get into the campaign, and the best thing about campaign will be gone, o7 interludes
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>>584031846
it's funny that jonathan made the interludes, and actually had to fight for them to get added to the game.
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>>584031724
It's just too much man...
>beat poe2 campaign
>now i have to waddle over to get some atlas points for the essence cluster, then waddle over to abyss unless the league mechanic is so good i have to get those points first
Poe1 just needs you to beat ~100 maps once you reach maps to unlock almost everything.
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>>584032142
>make up some bullshit
what do you mean "fight for them"? he could add a huge floating tub as a boss, he's the game director, he doesn't have to fight anyone for any decision in his game
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>>584031724
>>584032154
>muh campaign
if you're not t15 maps on day 1 and completed atlas day 2, it's a skill issue anon
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>>584024904
no. the implication is that aside some streamers who are paid to watch and their fanboys, and maybe extra 3.5 true poe autists, nobody gives a shit about that event.
Which is actually applicable to any con.
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>>584032376
I give myself a week on league start, it's nice to take things slow
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>>584032253
that's not really how the world works, and poe 2 has dozens of game designers.
they have milestone and deadlines to hit. head honcho or not, someone saying "we need to make 3 temporary mini acts that all have their own little story." is a huge ask and something that is going to get a lot of pushback, at any studio.
>but my insane tub fantasy! troonathan is the source of all my problems!!!!!!
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>>584032748
Poop2 has one game director: Tubful Cloggers. He says what everyone else does. The deadlines have been missed a bunch already, and the person who is supposed to hold people accountable is the director.
You can't even invent who he had to fight to get them done.
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>>584032253
>he could add a huge floating tub as a boss
would have been better than the campaign and endgame poe2 curently has.
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Guys im at 39 challenges! Never did any uber before. I expected this to be way worse. They actually died fairly quick. Even killed the exarch before the ball phase. And just now after getting that challenge, I noticed I had maven on for all the fights because of a prior challenge.
Best drop I got was bound by destiny with absolute shit mods :]
Now for the final bullshit challenge. Let's see how this goes.
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>>584032748
>"we need to make 3 temporary mini acts that all have their own little story."
watch me make poopoo better
>hey gemini. generate a shitty 3 mini act story and mix the assets we already have into a new but same layout
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>no you see, the head honcho of a the game studio is actually powerless and can't do shit, he is a poor victim of everyone else working against him, and has to fight to get his brilliant ideas implemented
any parasocials?
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>>584032915
would you like me to go get the interview where he talks about it?
does it hurt your mind knowing that something you thought was good was something tub troon poopshit man did?
tub troon poopshit man also invented the loot filter, that's gotta be a kick in the old neo-vagina.
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>>584032748
>>584033236
why gemini? because astra or grok would have done a better job, obviously.
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>>584033327
jonathan shit up poe2 and no amount of defending will undo this
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>>584033323
>knowing that a thing happened means you have a parasocial relationship
>now if you will excuse me i have hundreds of ai videos of tubman i need to sort through and post for 15 hours a day.
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it's pretty obvious jonathan is just a retard that just gets strung along because he's the head of the studio he co-founded, and mark is doing most of the actual work
losing his bald tard wrangler was the worst thing that could have happened to ggg
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getting heavy picrel vibes from the bootlicker
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>>584033657
>inventing that a thing happened means you have a parasocial relationship
Don't you mean this?
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>>584034004
game designer designed something
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
what is it? is tubman responsible for everything in the game or not? or is tubman only responsible for the things you personally don't like?
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>>584034208
>jonathan shit up poe2 and no amount of defending will undo this
this has not changed, and will never change.
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i really don't like the poe2 campaign
what are the changes they'll announce a campaign skip at exilecon?
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dear bootlicker troon, even if a director has not made a design decision himself, he is still responsible for it.
that is all, thanks for paying attention
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I give up.
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Is POE about the journey, not destination ?

Grinded hard and finally got the items I wanted. After that, I just don’t feel like playing the character anymore lol.

Do any of you guys have the same feeling? Is this a common experience?
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>>584011906
its insane how many classes (and ascendancies) are still missing from PoE2.. it's genuinely depressing to know that I won't get to play Shadow or Templar for another full year..
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>>584034874
big decision like adding the 3 interlude acts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuJW_i5bzV8
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>>584035226
thanks for letting us know
>>584035423
FULL RELEASE BTW BTW BTW NOT TUBFUL'S FAULT
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>>584035374
>Grinded hard and finally got the items I wanted. After that, I just don’t feel like playing the character anymore lol.
thats how it is since d2. the eni or mageblood is the carrot on a stick. once you have it there is no incentive to keep playing.
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>>584035374
the challenges gives something to strive towards, but yeah. once you finish your build and are onetapping everything there really is not a lot to do.
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>>584035374
Everything is about hte journey and never about the destination
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>>584035505
>people said what?
wow sounds like a big fight indeed. sounds like the boss said "make the interludes" and the crew said "okay boss", not sure where you get the "fighting for interludes" from
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>>584035505
sure sounds like he had to put his foot down!
not parasocial for sure, you're doing good bootlicker
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>>584035505
the low effort interludes are the best part about the campaign, and i'll be sad when they get removed soon
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>>584035757
>>584035943
jeets don't know what the word "contention" means
kek
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/contention
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>>584036105
you're retarded if you think he had to "fight" for it, he's the boss, he says what goes - employees can disagree with it, but they can't just strike. you're retarded.
he could make the last 2 acts pink and gay, and people would disagree with it, but they'd still have to do it
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>>584036105
>unemployed retard doesn't understand what "contention" between boss and eomployee means
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>>584036675
oh ok, my bad.
crazy that jonathan came up with the interludes, huh?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
kek
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I have a transcript of how the discussion went
>Guys I need you to make 3 interludes to tide us over
>No moooom I won't do it and you can't make me
>You will make my interludes or you won't get any more tendies
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>>584037247
was a pretty good idea, i can see why he is in charge.
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>>584036292
You have never been in a position of power in your life huh?
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>>584036905
It truly takes a special kind of genius to come up with the concept of mini-acts. Your personal friend tubful did well!
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>>584037354
He's in charge because he's been there the longest, not because he's the smartest. Truly an achievement!
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E gf slut wearing what I like today too, nice
Now I can think of cumming inside her while that ring bounces around
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>>584037834
Why does the door open after we kill him? Was he too stupid to figure out how to open it himself?
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>>584037870
in poe of course
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>>584037398
he isn't my personal friend, i just like poe and happened to watch an interview with him where he talked about the interludes.
you unironically have a very fucked up parasocial relationship with the guy to the point of having weird pet names for him, and becoming insanely hostile towards people that don't share your unfounded hatred for him.
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>shit up your game
>heh, nothing personnel kid
>>
POOP
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>>584038293
Your game is poe1. That was ruined by Octavian
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>>584037930
nu-Exile is just built different
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I love you poo
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>>584038610
Octavian has ruined it, but only as a result of a chain of decisions that led to all competent devs getting removed from the game, giving Octavian the chance to fuck it up..
Guess who made that chain of decisions.
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>>584039236
Chris Wilson
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>>584039296
It looks like Chris blocked the total rubbing of poe1 because the moment he left things went to shit.
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LET TUBATROON TUB
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>>584040052
>Nooooo don't call him that he's my FWEND
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>>584039552
that position is basically saying poe 1 has been shit since 2016
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>>584037834
>Kabedon
Doki doki
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ate a can of baked beans earlier. now I cant stop farting.
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>>584040690
retard
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one more month of literally nothing ..
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>>584041401
sure anon, chris was actively designing poe up until the day he retired.
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>>584029519
i love running in all 4 cardinal directions for 2 screens and seeing exactly zero colour anywhere
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>>584041051
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gonna start worrying if theres no 330 news this upcoming week
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>>584043189
if it doesn't happen this week, it probably isn't happening this year.
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>>584042185
Not what I said, retard. He just gatekept the decision to drop support for poe1 on the level it's happened since he left.
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>saar please you cannot say tubbing
>please just sign up for our newsletter sar
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>xhey're still coping that 3.30 isn't the eos patch
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go little eosposter, you can manifest it!
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all right-thinking observers of reality can see the writing on the wall for poe1
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Oyest of veys, did someone say wall?
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>>584044483
eos
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The fiverr brigade is out in force, trying to manifest eos hard. Godspeed, little jeets!
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>>584044575
Why even was this one removed?
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>>584044575
Never seen this, holy gabge.
Best case scenario they removed it to sell the model in the shop later
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>>584044891
it's just drop-disabled for now, the jeet that left in early 2025 probably snuck it in but i still have a couple on standard.
either they caught the antisemitic undertone, or deemed it too bad.
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>>584043780
>He just gatekept the decision to drop support for poe1 on the level it's happened since he left.
where did you get that idea? poe1 is fully supported, to a fault, if we are being honest.
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>>584044575
oy vey we approve of this item
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>>584045141
>antisemitic undertone
Where?
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>>584045510
what an innocent little goy you are
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>>584045510
google "the greatest story never told"
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>>584045687
>that title on an item with that name
surely nobody meant anything by it
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>>584045672
Well yea I know the wall every politician makes out with but what, do jews own every single mention of a wall anywhere forever now?
>>584045687
See this makes a tiny bit more sense
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>>584045923
It's not "a mention of a wall", it's a mention of THE wall. The makeout wall is also called "The Wailing Wall". That flavour text adds even more kick to it.
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>>584045672
thats fucking tasteless. no wonder it was disabled.
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>>584046272
ok, but why was it even made?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkpLG9keQF0

can someone do this with poe 1? like make it good for once.
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>>584039236
Its obvious that Andrew is the one who keeps wrecking the game with constant nerfs to all the fun mechanics, dude literally doesn't even want to live anymore he doesn't understand how miserable he's making other people
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>woooow it's a reference to the hecking 4chan stormfront nazi video
probably no one at ggg has ever made this connection and it was disabled because it's a dogshit item with no niche
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how do you even make money from breach? currency wombgifts for divines?
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>>584046793
actually, it got disabled in 0.3 when block got its rework. it used to also have the all directions or all damage block line that got rolled into baseline block.
but it IS very curious that a shield with the name of a jewish monument has flavour text that references a nazi propaganda video. it's obscure enough to offer plausible deniability, but clear enough for knowers to be unambiguous.
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>>584047026
the mageblood mtx is a goatse. ggg like to fuck around.
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>>584047026
>it's obscure enough to offer plausible deniability, but clear enough for knowers (schizos) to be unambiguous.
in other words, it's a coincidence
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>>584047437
is it really? what are the odds of this just popping up on a coincidence?
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>>584047437
it would be a coincidence if the flavour text was on any other item for sure. but it is on an item with that exact name, that's definitely no coincidence.
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>>584046916
lavish wombgifts to breach catalysts.
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What's a good arpg to play these days
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>>584048018
if you haven't played the d4 season yet it's fun for about 5-10 days
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>>584010480
fukken saved. ty anon o7
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>>584047746
>>584047509
>what are the chances of an art object with a visual theme of "silenced voices" making reference to the cultural trope of "untold stories"
pretty high, i'd say
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>>584033868
this but it's like twelve jeets in every single thread
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>>584048468
ok, but that is not the only thing it references. that item also totally randomly got a name that is directly (as in put the item name into google and the real-life reference pops up) linked to the real-life group of people that are directly connected to another group of people that the flavour text is clearly connected to
it's not one side or the other that makes it clear that it clear it's intentional, but both of them on the same item
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>>584048667
>you need to have a 17 hour long meltdown over "tubful" rogers everyday or you are a jeet
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seems like you caught a jeet there. keep up the good work!
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3.30 when?
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>>584048974
listen, making thousands of posts about a naked man splashing around in a bathtub full of feces is perfectly normal, it has nothing to do with unresolved early childhood potty training trauma
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definitely not a samefag
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>>584049346
lmao i thought there was 12 of them?
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>>584048793
this is an understandable point of view for a person suffering from severe /pol/ brainrot, where every single coincidence has to be part of a grand jewish conspiracy
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>>584049491
anon, just enter "the wailing wall" into google. i am sure you can think for yourself, rather than manipulate AI into an answer that supports your point of view.
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>>584049408
they all take 2 hour shifts, so there are 12, just not at the same time.
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>>584049491
>if i look long and hard enough it could also not reference the thing that is most obvious
where are you getting a grand jewish conspiracy from? in this context, it's more of a sneaky dev getting in an edgi, anti-jewish reference that nobody else at ggg caught.
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>>584049768
poor jeets need to run shifts just to keep up with the tubspammer.
woodful needs to hire some professionals.
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>>584049983
That one singular tubspammer that definitely isn't me is running laps around the fiverr jeets.
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>>584049610
>>584049962
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all me ssfbtw
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>>584050114
>more SI drivel
for sure, it's a metaphor about how the jews uh...
just stop grasping for straws, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.
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I have tubspammer fatigue.
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>>584050302
>SI
uhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>584050114
How we feeling now?
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>>584050589
>>584049491
looks like you beat the aijeet with his own weapons. as stated by AI itself, it's obscure enough to be waved off as a coincidence, but precise enough for knowers
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>>584050589
dont give a fuck about yid-culture where they spit on their most holy wall while pretending that anything they do is excusable because everyone else is a "goy"(animal)
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Leaguestarter for Tartarus?
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>>584051224
now that's the grand jewish conspiracy that was referenced earlier
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>>584051318
whatever your credit card allows for
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>>584050589
>>584050906
if you don't specifically tell it to make a connection with the title of the video in your prompt, the answer is much more realistic
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>>584051476
this Ai answer raped the other ai answer
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AI WARS
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Pooperbtw
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>>584051224
this is unacceptable goy
go back to posting about antisemitic dogwhistles in your video game
do NOT post about the crimes of the netanyahu government
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>>584051476
if you leave AI out of this for one second it becomes pretty obvious it's intentional
AI goes off of general sentiment, and nobody is talking about it so it uses that nonexistant discourse as "proof" that it's not intentional
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>>584051476
That's because you're not asking the based SI grok
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I just want to spam maps and get cool items to drop that I either use to improve my build or with cool interactions to build a new character around
games for this feel?
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>>584051818
>nobody is talking about it so it uses that nonexistant discourse as "proof" that it's not intentional
which is the statistically correct thing to do
since no one is talking about it, the chances that the art team at ggg heard of it, then decided to risk their jobs by slipping a dogwhistle into their work product, is much lower than it simply being a coincidence
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>>584051708
netanyahu WILL give u an israeli wife
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>>584052085
>he's going to stick me with a nagging yenta
that bastard
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>>584051996
but that's not proof for it not being an intentional dogwhistle
the shield was trash and has not been used by anyone, neversink probably filtered it from very early on and currently is drop disabled. most people don't even know it exists.
how much do you wanna bet that if someone mentions this in an official forum post they'll at the very least change the flavor text, or even rename the item?
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>>584051996
the name and the flavor text don't even make sense together.
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>>584051996
the jeet that made msot uniques (and this one too) left ggg in early 2025, the fuck they gonna do to him? rehire him just to fire him?
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>>584052184
>how much do you wanna bet that if someone mentions this in an official forum post they'll at the very least change the flavor text, or even rename the item?
that's virtually guaranteed because that's the nature of cancel culture
the innocence or guilt of the origin is irrelevant - anything that can draw the ire of the cancel crowd is changed as a matter of policy
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>>584051996
>dogwhistle
you dont know what that word means
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ngl I enjoy the current schizo vibe here. way healthier than what we usually have.
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>>584052337
>noooo you see it's a coincidence and the wall that depicts wailing people (hence the name "wailing wall") are wailing over the fact that their stories have never been told
makes perfect sense
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>>584052391
it means something that only the knowers ("dogs") can understand ("hear"), literally how this situation has been described repeatedly in the thread
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>>584052337
>>584052502
>wailing people have been turned to stone
>now their stories can't be told
makes sense to me
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>>584052539
yeah no, dont believe you
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I asked AI one mor time, since hey why not.
Everything about this case fits perfectly well, and it's a very clear message hidden in plain sight. Non-knowers will never see the message, but come on, it fits way too well when you know all the details for it to be a coincidence.
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i believe that shield is intentional, it's such a well-crafted dogwhistle that this retard even defends it as a coincidence.
well done jeet, let us hope ggg never changes it and we get to use this shield in many builds when it gets reintroduced.
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>>584048974
>>584049258
stinky dalit of the self-reporting
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>>584050104
I thought it was me! lol tubatroon's finest hard at work trying to crack the case of "who is the jaharalandhari doing the insulting of my boss!"
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>>584053406
i'm a brahmin, very light skin, people say i look italian.
you have been raped. i'm a jeet, i know rape when i see it.
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>>584050104
>>584053558
both me btw
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>>584053406
Us white aryan brahmins give dung the sacred respect it deserves. Only you, the actual stinky dalit, spam it all over the thread.
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>>584050589
"stop talking about muh tribe, cattle!!!! I'll prove everything you say is fake by posting aislop and begging jannies to scrub it from the internet!!!"
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Almost every endgame boss has some sort of unskippable RP event, which artificially increases the kill time. These RP events are cool and flavorful, and should absolutely be in the game. They add personality to the bosses and make them more than just generic monsters.

But this is an ARPG. It's gamplay loop is repetition. You want to kill the same boss 500 times, either to sell the drops, or to chase that one super rare one for yourself.

The RP scene is cool the first time. Maybe the 2nd and 3rd. But by the 50th time you see it, it makes you want to tear your hair out.
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>>584053701
NO! IT IS ME. AIEEEEEEE
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>>584053767
It's the other way around, I wanna use that shield only if it's an antisemitic dog whistle
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>>584053897
I noticed this earlier on reddit, I was contemplating posting it here too kek
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>>584053983
lel
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>>584053897
Eldritch bosses did it the best where the rp event isn't busywork
I don't like dread's event even though it's almost the same, I just don't like dread as a boss too much in general I think
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infinite atlas is not infinite.
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>>584054171
shaper and sirus are the worst..
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infinitely unfun
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path of exile 2 is definitely a number 2
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>>584054341
Sirus is fine but only because you don't even need to fight him anymore for progression
His constant invulns are a whole other thing than his "rp event" which is the storm + click his chair phase
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>>584054474
Kek I'll steal that one next thread
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>>584054570
What do you mean click chair
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>>584054474
phwoohohohohoho
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>>584054847
get under him after the storms move far enough away
I thought he sits on a chair
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>>584055117
He does and you do need to move under him. But at no point do you click his chair.
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>>584055195
I do
What are you gonna do about it?
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Sorry was that too mean
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New unique: Atziri's Grip
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Hot
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dat grip
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Need atziri to grip on it while I play roll slop
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eww roll slop
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Sloppy toppy while rolling
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the only rolling will be atziri rolling on my lap while I'm giving her the flameblast
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having fun playing median xl bros
i want to have sex with atziri
tfw no alva gf
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>>584054474
So is the thing I just produced in my underpants.
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>>584063231
median hasnt been relevant for a decade
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What's the new meta for PD2?
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subverse waifus except it's alva, tullina, gianna, navali, oshabi, and atziri
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3.30 status?
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>>584065473
cooking
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>>584065728
c-chef it's been cooking for a while now...
what do I tell the table?
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>>584064549
so?
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>>584065965
3.29 isn't even 3 months old yet
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>>584066581
the endgame rework and meta shakeup that's going to be part of 3.26 I mean 3.27 I mean 3.28 I mean 3.29 I mean 3.30 has been cooking for a lot longer though
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Every time I tune into Prada's stream, he's playing a different build that plays the exact same as his last build. It's always screenwide projectiles with boneshatter movement, but he created "new tech" with lightning warp CoC where you just spastically warp around making the stream almost unwatchable. Looking at this gameplay really makes one ponder why PoE 2 even exists.
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>>584066978
No one has ever been able to provide a real answer to the question "why does PoE2 exist"
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>>584066694
didn't they rework the poe1 endgame 2 or 3 times since settlers?
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>>584063231
no one cares about median xl. its a cluster fuck of a mod.
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>>584067215
money.
the altruistic reason was that poe(2) 4.0 was going to replace poe1, they decided to make poe2 a separate game instead of overwriting poe1.
but basically money.
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>>584066421
project diablo 2 isnt out yet :)
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>>584068816
all d2 mods are shit
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>>584068850
be silent
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>>584069680
stop eating shit
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i'm black
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g r i m
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sorry to shit up your thread but there isn't a diablo one

is fury or maul more fun on druid in d2? im levelling one using wind rn but wanna switch to a shapeshifter
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>>584070217
they should shut off the poe 2 servers until the end of november.
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>>584070382
Shapeshifter is pure misery until you get something like Reaper's Toll or Oath/Obedience. Stick to Nado until you at least have G-Face/Jalal's and a good weapon.
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>>584069864
my body my choice
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>>584070217
Dawn is a good ARPG that doesn't need FOMO slop like both Poos
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>>584070573
but whats the point of even playing it if Im getting all the gear on a different build? by the time I have the items, the game is kinda done no? whats there to chase after getting my chase items
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>>584070784
post your current grim dawn character
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>>584068850
>shills median, a dogshit slopmod
>Waaaaah all d2 mods are shit since i got mogged
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>>584071229
buy an ad
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>>584070784
>>584071023
Was looking to start a new grim dawn character, what class should i play bros
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>>584071023
I have like 5 different HC builds I'm leveling from time to time, but I guess I'll go with my Bleed Conjurer.
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>>584071509
damn what the hell grim dawn looks like THAT?!
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>>584071310
Can't go wrong with Albrecht's Aether Ray. The skill can be played in so many ways, too.
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lot of talk on tooter that d5 is going to btfo poe2....
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>>584072638
seems pretty easy to do
poe2 isnt fun to play
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>>584073058
yes very much saar
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>>584071509
Z A M N
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>>584072638
TICK TOCK TROONATHAN
YOU ONLY HAVE 4 YEARS LEFT
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>>584072638
going to have to update the meme folder
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>584071280
>buy an ad
meant for>>583946868
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>>584071280
you should do that marco
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>>584071310
new expac made default attack builds even better
also patch dropped yesterday and the new Guts set for shieldbreakers shits out dmg lmao, slapping enemies for 1m+ while leaving trauma DoTs ticking for half a million ez
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>>584068816
>project diablo 2
the shittiest of turds. why would you anybody sane ever taint a great game like DII with some poe garbage retardation autism?
>>584070784
the only problem with Grim Dawn is that it is worse even than the failure of PoE 2.
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>>584074573
have it ever occured to you that people who like that mod might have liked diablo 2 for different reasons than you?
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>>584074573
why do you dislike grim dawn
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>>584074573
poohead lol
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>>584074772
no. people can only like DII because it is a good game, with very good quality for the year 2000. Decent writing, sound, good music. Itemization is retarded, skills are somewhat fine. Story and atmosphere, and Deckard, carry the DII and it is a good thing. PvP was shit, economy was shit, cheating was shit, rmt was shit, but none of these mattered, really. the game was about something else.
Now you autismal niggers come along and (want to) take a nice casual game that is to be enjoyed by everybody, starting at like 6 years old, and turn it into a disgusting fatso sweatfest.
DII was designed really, really good. I mean as a piece of software to be enjoyed. Most game developers of the entire industry and indie, not just ARPG, have plenty to learn purely from the design of the original Diablo and DII+LoD.
>>584075015
the og campaign is fucking retarded, the game tries to promote a dark atmosphere, but I struggle to give a fuck about anything in that game, as a player. And then having to do the campaign again is a massive no-go in 2010's+ right away. Game has failed to innovate while being completely unremarkable. Character control, abilities, builds, loot do not feel bad, but do not feel good either. I'd say that it fails because it is aggressively mediocre and uninteresting. Maybe that's just me, but it has failed to immerse, involve, interest me.
I did not play the DLCs, I think. I have played the regular campaign twice. PoE is shit that makes me mad when I even think of playing it again, while Grim Dawn feels like apathy, i.e. "why would I ever". I actually forget about it completely until somebody mentions it, while other video games (esp. good/best) stay in my memory.
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>>584075410
nah, man. poe one is needlessly overcomplicated and is not enjoyable because of that. shit random kills the rest of what the game could have been without any determenistic crafting of op items for ssf, and the crafting bench alone doesn't save it.
lack of a campaign skip after 13 years should straight up be a criminal offence against gamers.
poe 2 suffers the same retardation from the same stupid designs, but amazingly is even worse. Maybe because poo1 did have determenistic crafting every once and again in leagues before everything was destroyed and nerfed to shit, and it has delve. poe2 is just a boring ass slog because there is no point to play poe2. endless maps is the point of a game? that's the same shit people were bitching about with d3 greater rifts number go up and farm forever 10 fucking years ago.
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>And then having to do the campaign again is a massive no-go in 2010's+ right away
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>lack of a campaign skip after 13 years should straight up be a criminal offence against gamers.
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>>584076643
yes, every decent game either has one character capable of everything, is the endgame right off the bat, or allows you to skip retarded campaign that was bad, but wasn't too long in the first place.
Even DII multiplayer was riddled with campaign skips and people generally love the story of DII. But doing fucking ACTIII (the worst) for the 50th time? No, thanks.
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>>584076783
look, man, you can shove dragon dildos up your asshole all you want, but it doesn't mean that everybody enjoys it or wants to do it even once. and before you spout any more retarded bullshit, the numbers don't lie. nobody is playing shite poo campaigns.
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>>584076836
>>584076926
>yes, every decent game either has one character capable of everything, is the endgame right off the bat, or allows you to skip retarded campaign that was bad, but wasn't too long in the first place.
>look, man, you can shove dragon dildos up your asshole all you want, but it doesn't mean that everybody enjoys it or wants to do it even once. and before you spout any more retarded bullshit, the numbers don't lie. nobody is playing shite poo campaigns.
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>>584028716
This would be extremely kino.

>>584028936
You have to beat your own map before posting it.
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>>584076836
Ok? So go play those decent games? Why exactly are you here if you hate it?
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>>584077665
I do. Because this is a public forum. I hate poo2 because it is fucking dogshit and it is sad. The game did not have to be total fucking dogshit, and moreover, at the very beginning it was very casual oriented and wasn't mean to be this dogshit that we have today. niGGGers lied. and game dead. people mad.
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>>584077846
the game isn't total dogshit, you are just a retarded newfag throwing a tantrum because the game devs won't slop up the game for you.
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>>584078457
the game is slop, you mong, which is why it is dogshit. lack of the good endgame crafting system without too much random is something that less than 10 or maybe even 5 or 2% of players ever experience. 80% of the "500k" probably never even finish the dosghit campaign.
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>>584078634
>omg guiiiiisssss it's' sooooo not fair that the sequel to poe1 is grindy and has a bunch of rng!?!??!
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>>584078845
it's not grindy, it's time wasting. and it is a big fucking difference. gamers are not THAT retarded, they can clearly tell when the game is wasting their time on purpose and for no good reason. the most primitive sign is the lack of any fucking rewards. if the game is not rewarding to play then nobody is going to fucking play it. which is what you see reflected in the numbers.
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>>584079068
>i need my bing bing wahoo!
>game doesn't respect my time
>good games like diablo 4 and last epoch respect the player's time.
trvke
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I think the only fair thing is to force one campaign run every league/event.
Then alts can level with some equivalent of atlas or have access to every zone from the start until maps. The problem fr fr no cap is that leveling from like 0-60 needs to have its own atlas like system or some other alternative progression
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>>584079675
>t. rmt bot owner
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>>584079782
is that really why campaign exists? to stop bots?
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>>584079782
you're unironically retarded. I'm not even that anon. rmt/bot runners don't give a single fuck. they run hundreds and thousands of bots at once through a farm or two. they never play the game themselves. are you that fucking stupid? people have botting and multiboxing in online games since the 90's. with the current AI, macro software, pseudo coding powerful script languages, etc... it is easier than ever to create software that will run the entire game for you. and it will be highly optimized too, if you want. or it could take 20 hours to finish a campaign, because nobody gives a shit, when you get 5000 accounts to the endgame at once.
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>>584079782
in fact. now that I think about it, running a bot to finish the campaign for me while I sleep/work might be a good way to enjoy the endgame without ever again playing the campaign myself.
pretty sure most players actually do that in poe. gamers have been doing it forever, making things trivial through automation is what humans do since time immemorial. the civilization itself is built on technology and making things not as tedious, annoying, and more productive and optimized.
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JONATROON
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>>584081404
I kinda envy your ability to delude yourself ngl
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>>584081718
ROGBINDER
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>>584081795
I have been using the automation software for skill grinding in Ultima Online back in the 90's. Likely before you were born. UO Pilot, created a bit later, is great automation software for a miriad of video games.
Anyway, the reason I'm not botting in/automating PoE is because I'm not invested in PoE at all. I have no interest even to play the endgame of PoE series.

TL;DR: look at my picrel. That was hard, right? Pretty sure all semi-hardcore players bot in both PoE games.
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>ADHD zoomie LARPing as an adult
how cute
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i look so retarded
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>>584082194
Again, it's fascinating how you're able to delude yourself into believing your own shortcomings are the norm
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>>584082402
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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ZA BASUTABU
>*shits twice*
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bots raped that guy and he's permanently upset
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>>584029519
I hate the entire wisp mechanic. Slowly following around a shiny glitter for meager rewards. They slow your map down to a crawl. I completely skip them now.
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What the fuck even are these things?
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>>584084539
birds
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>>584084586
That is not a goddamn bird
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>>584071509
w i d e
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>>584084539
Is that how they actually look in game? Damn, what a hacked together model.

They're meant to be like vulture things that eat corpses and vomit on you
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>>584084539
Part of the trio of death
them alongside titty bitches and porcupines
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Was this boss just straight copy pasted from PoE 1? What the fuck is the point of it, its dumb mechanics, and the modifier mechanic? It drops no items worth having and takes 5 minutes of cinematic watching per go, and dies faster than it can even use its abilities. how the fuck is it so badly designed?
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>>584085816
>It drops no items worth having and takes 5 minutes of cinematic watching per go
wasnt cranium worth like 20 divines during the first couple weeks?
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>>584085816
it released before the poe1 version
also most poe1 bosses/assets in the past like 7 years have been from poe2
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>>584085982
The bones it drops were tacked on recently to make it not completely worthless. But the ring, the belt, the staff it drops and interacting with the lich corpses are the entire theme of the boss encounter, and they're all incredibly shit.
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>>584085982
Craniums are still really good money
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>>584086161
yeah i agree the uniques could use some work, the staff itself is too niche for the mods needed to make a decent one too for its unique skill it has
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>>584086251
Cute model you have there, how much you pay for it?
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there are +1 bases with 60 fucking lightning res?
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>>584086546
about tree fiddy
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Path of Exile is doomed.
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>>584088189
Why are you russian?
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>Tub
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>>584088189
SOVL
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>>584088189
So when are game companies going to start firing out C&Ds and lawsuits?
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>>584092024
Who exactly are they gonna sue? Grok?
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>>584092634
The person releasing it? Or is it Grok releasing it by it's own will?
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>>584086019
>past like 7 years
holy 2rist
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>>584093198
It's a completely retarded take when you factor in that PoE was supposed to be PoE 2.
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>>584092024
Game companies never, but the retards started decompiling Abode apps, so the clock started ticking
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>>584093151
>by it is own
ok, but that person is not in the US but somewhere in china. what now?
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please help anons, i am getting TUBBED
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>>584093829
they got fewer lawyers than people who can write "@claude decompile this app, make no mistake, then recompile it without the activation part"
adobe is over, and i am happy about it
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At this point, GGG should just admit their incompetence and sell their poo to Blizzard though I doubt they'd be willing to accept tub shit.
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>>584095970
what the fuck are you talking about nigga
ggg sold out to tencent 7 years ago
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Nerfing Kingsmarch is really an idiotic move
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>path of exile 2
>we aren't exile anymore
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>pd2 has a button that sends every material into their affinity tabs
why the FUCK doesn't poe2 have this
having to ctrl click my entire inventory is the worst part of picking up gumball currency
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>>584102802
>why the FUCK doesn't poe2 have this
ggg wants to inflict finger and wrist pain in their players, I actually wrote a python script that moves my stuff from inventory to chest because of the pain I was developing over the years
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>>584102802
You WILL feel the weight of every single item, tublet.
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>>584102802
>uhm uh so we as uh uhm devs want to uhm make uh items feel tangible and uh real to the uhm uh player
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Both games: tubbed
Thread: tubbed
Reddit: super tubbed
>everything goes by our big masterplan
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SIIIIIR
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I need to shit into a tub
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>>584108128
do it and post result
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>>584108590
be careful what you wish for.
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>>584108717
>i'll try anything once
faggot
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>ALL WILL BE REVEALED
you mean the 2 acts that no one gives a shit because everyone plays poe for it's endgame? oh yeah I can't wait tubbtroon saar.
the sheer amount of delusion that troonathan is huffing on is staggering.
poe2's whole premise was to be a soul's like arpg but the japs absolutely despise the game. the only people unironically enjoying the game are the browns.
game made by browns for browns.
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>>584111331
The campaign is the only interesting part thing in PoE2
The endgame system is so horribly designed that only degenerate mouth breathing retards could spend more than a weekend playing it
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>>584112114
the campaign is interesting the first time, then it quickly becomes a chore and is way more spiteful towards the player than the "bad" campaign in poe1 ever was
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>>584112114
>that only degenerate mouth breathing retards could spend more than a weekend playing it
so how long do you spend on the campaign?
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>>584112394
just read the shit their post, they are turbo shitters.
mad cuz bad.
simple as.
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>>584112470
the campaign is turboshit, the endgame is turboshit
why does poo2 even exist?
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LET TUBATROON COOK
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>>584112705
the original plan was to "update" poe1(replace it with poe2).
they realized they could make a bunch of money shipping a new game while still making money from the old game.
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>>584033327
The game doesnt come with a loot filter you have to download it from a 3rd party? Its also worse than last epoops
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This shit doesn't even move anymore
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>>584112736
he burnt the turd 2 years ago
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>>584113336
retard
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>>584033327
they also talked about fixing loot so you wouldn't need a loot filter. how did that turn out again?
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exilecon in 1 month
poe2 release one month after that
when
is
3.30
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>>584113820
sorry anon we forgot that 3.30 couldn't release if we didn't let anyone work on it. my bad!
now excuse me, i gotta get back to finishing the REAL game
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>>584088189
How is it that d2 mogs the fuck out of poe2 with just some fucking camera rotation mod?
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>>584114172
>completely ignore all the new models and textures they had AI make for this
yeah i wonder how
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>>584113673
don't worry, when exilecon comes and jonathan reveals his genius, everything will be alright
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this jeet sperg will never stop, huh
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>>584114172
because DII is a good game, meaning design by itself. Some parts are terribly outdated, like stamina or two skills at a time, but some are peak game design.
PoE 2, on the other hand, is complete horseshit.
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>>584114229
Its the same models and textures from d2 resurrected from what I understand. You're just rendering them in 3d instead of an isometric view which flattens them. There's a YouTube video on it
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>>584113820
I made the difficult decision to pull all of our staff off other projects to help us get Path of Exile 2's 1.0 release finished in time for launch. It would be irresponsible of me to let the game launch in a sub-par state, especially after what happened at the Early Access launch.
Unfortunately, there were some unexpected consequences of this decision that I hadn't realized would occur at the time. It turns out that while Octavian and the team were assisting with PoE2's launch no work was actually able to be completed on 3.30, so I made the difficult decision to delay it until March to ensure that PoE2 isn't on fire throughout the holidays.
Thank you for your attention on this matter.
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>>584114347
>tourist opinions

Shant be caring
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>>584114229
why do you even exist? Ah, doesn't fucking matter, because you clearly shouldn't. Go eat some rocks or something.
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>>584114434
those were all 2d renders, not 3d ones. the stuff in the video is all 3d, and they had AI remake those assets (which is trivial, but can add endless amounts of detail that wasn't there before)
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>>584114520
uh oh jeet tranny aislop ""modder"" meltie :)
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>>584114520
because my parents made me, and i haven't ended it yet
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>>584114662
you words do not mean anything, they were generated by some inferior drooling retard. nobody cares.
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>>584115030
just like that "rotation mod" you posted.
funny how that works.
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>>584114652
d2r was basically just a visual overhaul of og d2, all the assets/animations are 3d. that mod just rotates the camera.
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>shader problem have been fixed
>somehow opening and closing the atlas screen takes an eternity to load
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>>584114652
Retard. D2 resurrected assets are 3d assets rendered in an isometric view.he didn't need to make new assets he just has a script that changes the rendering you can literally go look and download it yourself
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>>584115078
I'm not that anon, but you are a drooling retard, so.
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>>584115668
>you are a drooling retard, so.
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>>584115974
I was about to say that's not the time to post this but the 'so' absolutely deserved it.
Well done.
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61 days until 1.0.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3mvQlomapg
uh oh melty!
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>>584116798
now do that with poo2 and Big J gets his elden ring-like he always wanted
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>>584116798
i would have watched this but the disgusting accent makes me throw up
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>>584117235
european accents tend to strike fear in browns
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>>584117452
Zorry, vat did you zei? I didn't ketch zat.
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>>584117595
uhhhh, saaar poo poo bloody, poo izzat, shart n fart
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where is the exilecon hype?
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>>584118004
>woooow preview the 2 new acts and a couple ascendancies for a class already previewed
truly hypaliscious!
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>>584117910
smells like lost german izzat, faggot
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>>584118642
i would like to suggest
>they should have added all of this stuff during the early access!
as the exilecon meltdown theme. maybe sprinkle in some "sabotage".
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>Force Chris to quit the ARPG scene
>Force blizzard to quit the ARPG scene

Jonathan is an unstoppable force
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>>584119539
nobody is melting down over exilecon, that's the whole point. pure and widespread apathy is what's worrying everyone.
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>>584119803
the apathy is there because they spent the entire year forcing people to play the game, we need one more month of rest before we think about exilecon or 1.00, I'm enjoying other games now
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>>584120013
people will forget about exilecon if there is no hype ramp of at least 2 weeks
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>>584119803
>nobody is melting down over exilecon
I am!
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i am looking forward to hearing about those 2 worthless shit acts at exilecon
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>>584119803
Exilecon was always a literally who in the gaming universe, even for us, because there is no surprise, we know what they are going to announce and show.

The only based Con, the role model, is Tennocon (Warframe)
>hyper kino cinematics/trailers
>International (because it's Canadian)
>SEXO community managers (men and women and trans)
>SEXO ceo
>always an "holy shit!!!" moment
>cosplay, anime, manga, cinema
>high IQ discussion about the techs behind the game (because Steve is a based hyper nerd able to talk about the texture of a random statue for 5hours)
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>>584120294
i disagree, we had 2 exilecons only, and the first one was fucking hype
the second one fell extremely flat, though
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>>584120515
thats only because poop tub troonathan woodful sabotage.
you remove those variable and that shit popped the fuck off.
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>finally pushed myself to farm and be able to afford a mageblood
>was searching for mageblood mods
>there's no quartz flask
jonathan you fucking coward give me my fucking phasing
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>>584121552
>>there's no quartz flask
there is. look again, retarded mongoloid
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>>584121752
here's the list
now fucking neck yourself
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>>584121908
OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES I SWEAR TO GOD. TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK JUST LOOK
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>>584120706
you seem to have a meltdown, lil gup
everything alright?
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>>584121552
they removed phasing from the game and made it a point that you get body blocked by anyth tiny rock or monster, you wouldn't think that tubful would let you ignore his grand push-o-vision
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Hi /pooegg/ it's your daily reminder that poop2 has antisemitic dogwhistles in it.
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>>584119547

Now that's some insane delusions. Blizzard is dominating the ARPG scene.
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>>584122676
Love confident Chinese women so much
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can we please stop with the blatant anti-semitism?
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>>584123341
but ggg put it into the game, we're just pointing it out
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I don't like semen either
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im not an HC(ssfbtw)cuck but i had a game idea recently of a massively multiplayer type game that only had a hardcore version along with only being able to make one character ever for your account
generally HC is seen as a type of difficulty modifier to the base game but by making it the only mode it adds a sense of "connection" so to speak - everyone playing this game is 'alive' with me
Should I contact Kojima?
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>>584124158
contact kojima and report back
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hey octavian can you guys add an accuracy flask call it like 'emerald flask' thanks
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>>584124402
that's a dumb idea
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>>584122676
Last Epoch is not made by Blizzard tho. No wonder you're confused. A good looking, quality game, with easy, but deep crafting system, etc. might make you think you're playing a blizzard game, but no. Blizzard really did not create anything truly amazing since DII.
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>>584124820
retard
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>>584124908
yes. yes, you are.
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>>584125407
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>>584122676
didn't they just announce the end of service for diablo 4?
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>>584126008

D2 controls the past. D4 + Immortal the present and D5 is the future of the genre.
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>>584126098
What does PoE franchise control?
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>>584126098
top kek. can you stop sucking corpodick for a millisecond you castrated faggot?
>>584126253
a tub.
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>>584124273
thought i had him in my contacts but cant find it
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>>584126098
who is THAT? wooow
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>>584126587
guess your genius idea will never get made, tough luck
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>>584126656
an imaginary, drawn child you sick fuck
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Yo
I missed last poe2 season
What made GemLinger dominate meta SOOOOO hard?
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>>584126859
Ill just contact Claude instead i guess
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Thems just the facts. You have to live with it.
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Endless atlas = tubshit
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Poe1 is getting an endgame revamp iirc. Likely the conclusion of the atlas story line to align with poe2’s non-world travelling atlas.
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>>584126098
blizzard is the videogame equivalent of a rolling stones concert. something that is decades past its prime with an audience full geriatrics halfheartedly trying to relive their youth.
>yeah this is fun, i think i'm going to turn in early. but man, 20 years ago i would go all night!
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PoE 1? More like EoS 1!
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>>584127213
gemlinger was good before the last patch. in short: it is the scaling issue. that faggot class multiplies everything.
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>>584127791
PoE1 was supposed to get a revamp for the last 4 patches, SURELY 3.30 will be the one
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>>584127791
in retrospect i think their plan was maven's parents or whoever would show up and completely destroy the shaper atlas, then "two campaigns into a shared endgame" would have been the poe 2 atlas.
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>>584054474
*sharts*
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>>584128370
whats stopping them from still doing it?
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>>584128482
me. I am stopping them.
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>>584128357
3.30 sounds like a good moment to close the PoE1 arc
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>>584127213
and also, while people switch to gemlinger to have +x to everything, including the shits they take per day, the lightning rod faggotry is still alive and well. very good damage still and so every sorc, ranger, and monk plays it at least during the campaign. So 2 playable "builds" in the entire game. Oh, there is also the minion bitch of course, infernal rotting witch is the most braindead comfy class to rot away with, because your minions do 99.976% of all the work in the campaign and mapping anyway. And with the regen bosses in act III fixed, it's never been easier to roll through the game with a minion build.
poo2 is about as complicated as a cupcake. issue is, the niGGGers have decided to add volcanic lizard mustard to it to imitate the potential scope of variation and waste player's time.
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>>584128482
the poo2 atlas is bad and hated and they probably know that
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>>584128482
the people that still play poe1 hate change. one of the q&as a few leagues ago they talked about just keeping them happy without rocking the boat too much.
just look at small changes they make to poe1, people lose their shit over every little thing now.
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>>584128626
will it into existence, sister! you can manifest it!
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>>584128760
My intention wasn't bad, I just wanted to say that yeah, the last league before full PoE2 is THE moment to finally conclude the Zana/Atlas arc which is in fact PoE1 arc.
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>>584128742
yes, it is called real autism. no irony or insult. real autists have the ability to hyper attach themself to a thing or a person and never interact with anything else. unhealthy formation of patterns and habits with the rejection of the slightest change is the clearly sign of clinical autism. And people on the autism spectrum generally take any change of their plan/habit/routine as very disruptive and kill their mood or make they angry. it is a physiological response.
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>>584128742
some of the biggest recent changes have been quite popular. most poe1 players are scrubs that brick their build in yellow maps, autists are very uncommon
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>>584128742
i very very very much want change
is there anyone that actually wants to kill eater/exarch/maven yet again for the 4th year in a row?
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>>584128742
Because in this cursed capitalism GARBAGE era, change means it's going to be UBER shit anti player
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>>584128742
i love change, when it is progress. but poop2 is not progress, it's regress.
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>>584129823
a lot of people do just want to do the same old thing.
just look at the reaction to the first phrecia, that was just itemizing the passive tree and a lot of people freaked out.
and it's ggg, change isn't one and done. the atlas was a fucking mess for years, it was like 2 years for them just to sort out watchstone progression.
i just don't think they want to deal with that, not with the current poe1 playerbase.
with poe2 everyone expects it to be fucked while they figure it out so people are more receptive to change.
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>>584130870
>>584130870
>>584130870
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you guys are retarded, poe1 was evolving for years and years, lots of things changed. the amount of regress and non-change lately is what makes the autists toxic.



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