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Old Thread: >>583928797
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>>583997426
Reminder that your "main character" jobbed to Glottkin
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>>583997426
Why does Gelt look like he needs milk of magneto..
only just noticed..
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>>583997598
>the goykin
not canon
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>>583996818
Nope, still the same outcome. I even stretched out their formation so they could envelop the Teutogen Guards.
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>>583997812
I figured they'd still lose but you see, it made a major difference. The dragon guard dealt way more damage. Formation attacks are like.. pure poison for the unit.
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>Why does my anti-large harmony unit lose to elite infantry that isn't hampered by an anti-x stat tax or harmony stat tax, fucking Empirefags!!!!!
When EmpireCHADS tell CA to jump, CA asks 'how high?'
There is only 1 other race / culture in Total War history with that kind of soft-power, and that's Rome(the culture not the game).

Cathay will forever be a footnote created for no other reason than to attempt to seduce the asian market, and it will never be more than that.
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>>583997908
Good thing i dont play melee factions why is this a thing
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>>583998089
Arent the teutogen literally t3
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>>583998089
Does game have chinks actually make more chink sales?
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>>583998117
That's a bit hard to explain but uhh.. first of all only Cathay has that, 2nd, in theory, in formation attack, they hold line better. If you run a SEM into any infantry line, that unit breaks its line and starts to blob around the SEM. The means their edges close in and that opens gaps. In formation attack, they stay in line and don't go to attack. Only the entities that are in attack range do it.
It also keeps the unit more solid. Usually when a unit starts attacking, they all rush up to moshpit. When you then run any unit into that, the entities are thrown around and barely have any resistance.. the dragon guard stay a solid line that can't be easily thrown over or move through.
It also gives them some MD but I dunno how much.
..
At least that's the theory behind that thing. I always keep it on because I'm too lazy to click that retarded button every fucking battle but it makes em better killers.. slightly worse against charges and such.
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>>583998148
Yes, but you need the T4 structure to make them if you don't have the Boris unique building. Tiers are kind of stupid anyway, you have anything from Zombies to Dwarf Warriors at T1.
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Skaven needs Dragons
We should bring in Warpfire Dragons for them
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>>583998575
Bro, I've been saying that for years. Rat-dragon would be awesome
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>>583998117
Formation attack is good when you don't expect your infantries to do damage
Instead you rely on magic/ranged to do the bulk of damage
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I haven't checked Nagash's economy buffs which are probably an overcompensation that trivializes the initial difficulty but the mortarch rework seems good, winning the campaign while only having 2-3 mortarchs was a joke
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>>583998575
Wouldnt they just kill the rats instead
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Ugh.. I hate loading into a drunk campaign the next day. Now I gotta figure this disaster out..
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>>583999138
-40 upkeep and more on top of it
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>>583999235
That's a shame
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REEEEEEE
NOT MY FRESH STACK OF VIOLENCE
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>>583999218
Did you get so mad at your Boris campaign now you're raping him as Korn?
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>mounted lord just keeps pushing the other lord instead of hitting him
:(
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>>583999218
Looks like you're winning though?
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>>583999138
It's too bad you can't do the kind of math that lets you picture how much 10% off is. That must make life hard.
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>>583999291
Mad? Why would I get mad?
It was a challenge run, one I came up with myself. I just wanted to see if it's doable.. and it is but it requires a lot of luck.
The run is:
You are only allowed to keep 3 cities.
Unit Cap Removal for Vamps so Vlad makes doomstacks
Manage to unite the Empire
..
I can't remember if I had local recruitment for WoC on too..
>>583999365
I sure am but figuring out where my armies are, what they are doing and where they should go takes time.
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>>583999218
Update us on your beer desk stash, how much are you smashing a day now? 7?
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>>583999470
yesterday was 10
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>>583999453
>figuring out where my armies are, what they are doing and where they should go takes time
It's Khorne, just find the nearest town/army and right click on it.
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my undiagnosed adhd autism has reached critical mass these past few years and i'm addicted to autoresolving which saddens me because old me loved undead mosh pits and this update should tickle my pickle but just can't relax
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>>583999862
Just bUrself and play however you want! :)
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>>583999862
killing yourself is always an option
oblivion never gets boring
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>>583999862
DONT EVER KILL YOURSELF
40K IS COMING
KINO IS COMING
MEDI3 IS COMING FOR HISTORICALCHADS
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So close...

>>583999702
It's not THAT easy
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>>584000191
if anything he will kill himself when those come out and it's the classic CA quality
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welp.. at least those 2 armies are harmless now.
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Before we leave this game, I hope CA gives us literal Khaine and Sigmar

Would be cool
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>>583999412
Pretending to be illiterate is certainly a strange choice for trying to sound smarter
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FOR GRAND CAFFE
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Remember me, faggot? Yeah.. I'm sending you back to the grave..
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Just finished my first chaos dwarf campaign.
Gotta be one of my favorite factions now.
Early game was pretty brutal as Zhatan and I practiced the first like 10 turns a couple times before I had a decent start, but once Sayl and Vilitch were destroyed, conquering Cathay was easy. Strong and fun unit roster. Especially the artillery. Always came a little when my dreadquake mortar obliterated an entire chaff unit with just one shot.
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What's Tzeentch's vision for the world?
I can imagine what 100% corruption looks like for all the others but no idea what all the blue would entail, people just growing tentacles?
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>>584000663
bro you already posted this in the /v/ elden ring thread...
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>>584000702
You didn't see that
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>>584000663
How did Grimgor do? He made me abandon one of my Zhatan runs because I took too long and he was in a WAAAGH already
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>>584000663
This: >>584000702
Kinda cringe bro...
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>>584000373
no the end times is fucking GAY
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>>584000373
It's been fun seeing CA try to pick out all the somewhat cool parts of the End Times mess while ignoring the rest, the Glottkin shit was too big to ignore I guess but Valten missing entirely and Malekith's bs being ignored is great
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>>584000663
ew anon, u go to /v/?
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bro is just going on a cruise, he's not at war with anybody
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>>584001113
>Total Peace
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>>584000747
I think Bhashiva killed him pretty early on and even though she had 13 settlements when I invaded Cathay, she never declared war on me.
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I've been toying around with a direct control mod.
Running in a circle around an Orc Warboss does in fact confuse him and he gets stuck.
So lore accurate techniques work.
But it's super, super unresponsive and depressing to play and the camera is too low so when I play as Taurox I just get a face full of Taurox brass ass
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>>584001160
There a mod for this?
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>>584000898
Malekith. He turned out to be the real Phoenix King and the Dark Elves and High Elves teamed up. And that's bad?
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>>584001681
probably
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>>584001857
Malerion* Please don't dead name him..
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Why no Dark Forts in ZestyLusty?
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>>584002097
Because South America is a shithole
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>>584002097
Unlike the rest of the world, the Lizardmen remembered the old ones saying NO PARTIES, and dark fortresses only appear where teenagers got drunk and crashed their car
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>>584002009
I'm so sorry.
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>>584002097
This always look so out of place...
CA
FIX THIS
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You ever feel bad for a unit?
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>character falls to Khorne, becomes a cool samurai or berserker
>character falls to Nurgle, becomes bloatlord
>character falls to Slaanesh, becomes someone you'd see at Carnival in Brazil
>character falls to Tzeentch, and uh... ???
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>>584002339
>character falls to Tzeentch, and uh... ???
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
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>>584002339
he becomes a reddit poster
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>>584002339
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>>584002339
A jew. Destroying factions from within.
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>>584002097
BOK BOK BOK
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>>584001362
Lucky, he's manageable but he's been the biggest problem in my Zhatan campaigns
>>584001857
It is pretty lame that the most dysfunctional of the 3, the comically evil Delves and Malekith, after several milleniums worth of war crimes, just get to win out because his version of events is now considered technically correct so everyone goes along with submission because of the circumstances and deus ex machina yes. Also rolled 3 factions with different appeals into one.

I wouldn't mind an eternity king mechanic in game for Malekith as right now only the Welves can strive to achieve their goals and have the game actually acknowledge it, but it should be treated like a what if scenario for him only and Tyrion should have an equivalent goal to strive towards that involves the destruction of Delves.
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>>584002501
is GW retarded? They don't even know where their own factions are
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So, we all know Gelt's + Gyrocpüters = Fortunate Son.
What's the HE Airfoce's theme song?
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I just remembered that one anon in here saying
>it's impossible to reach and keep max bloodletting without cheats
I just pressed end turn for the first time today.. after 1h20mins.. enough to fill the bar from 0 to full..
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>>584002261
GW says no
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>>584002819
Unoriginal but come on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q
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>>584002501
NA looks so much better here....
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>>584002339
ever played bloodborne?
we need more eyes!
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>>584002819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J10WRzLdO4
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>>584003368
I didn't realise they were so shit at controlling their beastmen population. Look at that shit. Yuck!
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>>584002501
>All of the beastmen who were in the Middle Eastern Mountains were sent to the old world
Dawi truly are our greatest ally.
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>>584003368
It looks like they could just build a bridge to Ulthuan tho
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>>584003610
They truly are, they even dig tunnels through the entire planet for us to use!
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>>584003649
Who's going to pay for it?
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>>584003610
I think Ogres ate them all before the chorfs were even a thing in that area
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Nagash early is BORING
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>>584003692
The wetbacks
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>>584003717
Wrong mountains, ogres are far more east and would have been still dealing with the sky titans at that time.
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SENPAAAIIIII
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>every kossar and streltsi is packing pistols and rifles that use gunpowder
>also the entire Tzardom has less than 12 (twelve) cannons made hundreds of years ago
This shit is completely retarded.
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NOT THE FUCKING MOURNGHOULS AGAIN
FUCK
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>>584004180
big cannons are hard to make
small guns are easy to make
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>>583997426
>the game is in its best state supposedly because of the new content and updates
>still cant force myself to start a campaign because i almost have 2000 hours in the triliogy
I just cant. I need a new game, I need 40K
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>>584004451
It's ok to feel burnt out anon, beta in 2 weeks apparently (or just a confirmed date)
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>>584004451
Legend? We still have your back.
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ITS PAYBACK TIME
This is for ruining my boris run..
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He is... smaller than I expected.
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Why Warhammer 3 is a 3/10 game
campaign
>end turn times mean you spend lots of time just waiting and staring
>AI is brownian motion tier random shit
>too many checkbox mechanics
battle
>unresponsive, sluggish
>AI forgets how to play at 5 minute mark
>no tactics, no thinking, just exploit AI dumbness
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>>584004919
Mmmm, yes. And how many hours have you played?
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I think I came a little..

>>584004919
shut up, BITCH
This game is AMAZING
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>>583997426
my fucking heroes
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Oh shit, Skarbrand healing modifier.. this is sick
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>>584004919
nah
game is literally one of a kind...... /10
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Did empcucks really need black orc tier infantry to win against Vlad?
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Now that Nagash is here there is any reason to play his sidecick Arkhan the Negro? Hes basically a Nagash lite with like 1/6 of his roster
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This is so sick..
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>>584005496
he has VCO objectives
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>>584005496
His campaign seems really lame now desu senpai so I would say no, which is sad
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>>583950595
I've never made the AI blob. why would I? you can wear the enemy down with skirmishers and then break through in the center or outflank him
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>>584005486
Empirekiddies are too much low IQ to play a gunpowder/cavalry army. They whined about wanting their Empire Chosens to faceroll the campaign since 2016
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How much artillery do you often recruit for your armies?(Factions with good artillery I mean) I often just get 3 sometimes 4
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EmpGODS just keep on winning
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>>584005634
Yes
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>>584005634
6 frontline.
3 mulchers.
3 flankers.
4 ranged.
3 artillery.
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>>584005486
now that VCunts get tier 5 units by turn 20 and can raise armies instantly in enemy territory even immediately after being defeated in battle? Maybe
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>>584004919
Checkbos mechanics are my main gripe.
The game had potential to be so creative, to make so many interconnected systems.
But no, 99% of mechanics are just unique panels with cheats that are not connected to anything in the game, existing in pure vacuum.
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>>584005634
x18
+ 1 lord
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>>584005814
You can thanks the overwelmingly success of The Prophet and the Warlock. Costumers praised it and asked for more faceroll "I Win Buttons" mechanics like Ikit Claw, instead of smaller mechanics with some negatives like The Queen and the Crone DLC had
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>>584005724
what do you mean by Mulchers
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>>584006029
Damage dealers.
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>>584005814
You know perfectly well almost all of those are connected to a post battle currency
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>>584005814
>>584006023
>>584006113
>old man yells at clouds again
yawn
get over it
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>>584006023
It's weird looking at the years of DLC.
I think the vampire rework does a pretty good job of the whole "grinding up blood is a pain in the ass but once you have resources you go ape shit with your super hero units"
Meanwhile I think both Thanquol and Throt do Ikit's mechanic far better than ikit does (even if Thanquol's is overtuned at the moment).

People like >>584005814 point out the lack of interconnectivity, and I also agree that this is a problem, but I think the issue with interconnectivity is that Creative Assembly has never been good at the actual campaign/4x mechanics of their game, and as a result they'd have to completely re-evaluate how they want the game to be played to then redesign the entire campaign layer around the fact that different factions should actually interact with each other in different ways.

In doing so they'd probably have to also make it so minor factions are 100% passive unless a major faction allies with them or vassalizes them, but that seems like a small sacrifice.

The bigger issue is that this would overcomplicate things on such a level that they'd probably kill half of their playerbase, and the fact they're going for 40k next as a console release shows that they're hoping to grab even more casual players rather than alienate them.
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>>584006113
Yeah. You get to use a mechanic by doing...
What every faction is doing most of the time anyway, fighting.
Some faction collect green resource by fighting, so they can press a red button!
Other faction has to collect a yellow resource to press a blue button!
And some factions don't even get a resource by fighting! (meaning, they need a rework to get their fighting resource so they can activate their resource button).
Welcome to modern Total War, gentlemen. Where we collect resource and press a resource button.
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>>584005486
Yes
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/1x27ueg/teutogen_guard_vs_celestial_dragon_guard/
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>>584006256
We're going to fix it over the next few years. This is our game now. But we have to discuss what needs to be removed.
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>>584006330
I would add to this, because I forgot to mention it when talking about the vampire rework, I think the one fuck-up is they made it too easy to get corpses in your home region.
I understand they didn't want the situation of 'I can't make defensive armies because I don't have corpses" so they needed some passive corpse generation, but it could have been made significantly slower.
Unfortunately, probably for the sake of speeding up turns, they made it so undiscovered provinces cannot gain corpses and AI vampire factions do not use corpses.

Ideally if they were rebuilding the game, vampire AI would be built with corpses in mind, and corpses could build up even without the player discovering it, because that way Vampire AI would be highly incentivized to third party other wars going on in the world.
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>>584005634
All of them
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>Archaon gets buttfucked by boris, barely makes out alive
>Army mostly gone
>Hmm, who could I have him swap with
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>mod added RoRs don't show up in the ror menu
ok i guess
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>>584004180
>he doesn't know.
It was quite common until the mid 19th century for new cannons to be fired only once or twice and fail or never at all because they ended up being defensive placements.

The French focusing on cannon technology and fabrication as well as use was an anomaly compared to the rest of Europe. Everyone else used them sure, but no one was as advanced or had the pedigree the French did. In the same vein that the Royal Naval Academy being strictly meritocratic from its founding gave the English, then British an unparalleled advantage in naval warfare.

There are plenty of (for their time) uber cannons sitting in forts today that were literally never fired in combat but were also expected to fail in a dozen uses.
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>>584004180
Kislev only even had firearms with Boris, Katarin's father
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>>584004180
It is. Both are. If they had the means to economically equip their general infantry with pistols, they would have the means to build cannons. And even if they had neither, they could import them from the empire or the dwarfs.
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why dont blue demons have 3rd lord
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>Skarbrand slaps your Necro's ass
what do u do?
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>>584007830
It's part of their scheme
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>>584006390
Did it bother you 10 years ago when that resource was called food, which could be used to bypass the normal city growth? Why or why not?
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kek
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test
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>>584007816
It's a bit more difficult to build big cool guns than little popguns. Just my opinion.
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Do you guys think there's a chance they'll redo Aekold to be a lord for Tzeentch that buffs mortal followers like Arbaal and Dechala or is he doomed to live as a quest hero?
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>>584008048
Building a few big guns was actually done earlier than building many small guns. Building many rifles or pistols, as in the kislevite case, requires lots of skilled craftsmen, or advanced industrial processes which neither kislev nor empire possess.
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I finally caught the pathetic pussy..
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>>584007953
what the heck is this
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>>584008191
How much skill does it take to build a Big Gun?
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>>584008235
the saar exchange
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>>584008235
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3798516851
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>>584008275
god i love this community with its autistic mods
it will only get more autistic now with ai
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>>584008267
A lot as well. Maybe more in depth, but that too is a matter of economy. Kislev could import empire gun casters if necessary.
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>>584008275
This guy actually makes a bunch of cool mods.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3390778948
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>>584008636
desu makes sense that orks would loot and use others weps
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ummmm
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Ah yes, who can forget one of Nagash's Mortarchs, Styrkaar of the Sortsvinaer
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>>584009016
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>>584009016
giwtwm
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>>584009045
SMALL

FAMILY

COMPANY

OK!?
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>>584008568
They could have bought Cathayan gunpowder tech before the empire even existed, like Lahmia and Tilea did.
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>>584009213
You wish to be molested by a Peter File?
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>>584009243
Kislev doesn't border Cathay in the game
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Jesus Christ
Fuck
Kislev is a nightmare to fight as vampires. Everyone is shooting. And those baba yaga hexes. Neferata and vamp hero had to win this on their own basically
>golden chevron handmaindens died
>worthless corpse carts revived instead of them
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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anyone has that greenskin tactics big ball of violence image?
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>>584009303
Didn't I just say like Tilea? Does Tilea border Cathay?
Cathayan caravans go everywhere that isn't the new world.
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>>584008402
yeah thats why I don't care at all about CA abandoning the game. in fact I welcome it.
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where is the FUCKING SIEGE REWORK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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heh
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>>584009486
@Claude make Total War Warhammer 3 sieges fun
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>>584009243
The dwarves canonically invented gunpowder in this setting.
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>>584009532
kek
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>>584009642
Not quite. They invented it for themselves but ages after Cathay already had invented it and sold the tech or rather some of it to Tilea and Lahmia.
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>>584009243
Kislev is younger than the empire.
But yes, you could import cathayan specialists though, unless the cathayans guard their secrets. The empire is closer though. Or you find some rogue dwarf engineers.
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>vampire confederation doesn't give settlements
>confederation costs blood, the same resource used for vampire lairs
>vampire lairs produce stronger lords than can be confederated
So basically I'm supposed to completely ignore confederating VC lords, yes?
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>>584009715
AoS bullshit does not apply.
Just like the chinks irl claiming they invented the printing press because they had wooden ink blocks that an Emperor outlawed anyway and killed the inventor.
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>>584009758
Well, the kislev people the weird tribes there existed before the empire. I dunno how smort they were tho or if they did trade.
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>>584009835
>Cathay
>AoS
Seems someone needs his meds.
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It's fucked up but AoS has literally no Chinese people in it.
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>>584009914
>Cathay
>Pre AoS not a footnote
>More lore about the pygmies than Cathay
>Still modelled after historical China to appease chinks
>The place where constant destruction of records every 80-100 years and complete rewrites of history is the norm
>Credited with anything

While you are at it why not give them credit for the Vortex as well.
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>>584010018
>>584009914
>>584009835
#TrustTheLeaks
#TheLostWorldCathay!~!!!!
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Is there any reason to use warp lightning cannons over the magma variant?
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>>584010068
Anon.. modern Cathay is not AoS, it's Old World.. those are not the same things.
I know AoS is living rent free in your sandy vagina but I'm not the thing you should hiss at. Go find an AoS thread or whatever, I don't give a shit about your hate boner for a thing I don't care about.
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>>584009486
It's part of 10.1 update. Now stop asking.
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>>584010018
This mistreatment has Hurt The Feelings Of The Chinese People.
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>>584010275
a devastating financial loss...
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>>584009715
The dwarves canonically invented gunpowder in this setting.
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>>584010365
I'm not falling for your bait again. I remember you.
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>>584010429
>literal canon lore is bait now
You chinks are getting dumber by the day.
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good morning sirs
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>>584010471
>ET is not even canon but this random footnote I just totally invented is canon
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>>584010365
Not true. Cathay did.
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>>583997426
Who's that next to Karl? Also Leitdorf when?
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>>584010548
40k
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>>584010548
Emmanuelle von Liebwitz. Elector Countess of Wissenland and Nuln.
>Also Leitdorf when?
SOON hopefully.
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>>584010471
Go seethe at the official rulebook and arcane journal.
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>>584010629
art really reflects real life damn...
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The dragon ogres ate all the dragons. But actually, Cathay started eating dragons long before them.
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>>584010506
hello sir good morning sir
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What do I think about War Wagons?
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One day the retarded passfag is gonna get bored of spouting stupid shit in this general and move to some other place to haunt, and will be well again in /twg/.
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>>584010796
HAH
Me and getting bored of Skarbrand? Never. I've been here for many years, anon.
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well here we go again, i need to find a better way to use my blunderbusses
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>>584011025
you set em behind your melee line and go afk.. is not that complicated
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>>584011025
L I N E O F S I G H T
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>>584010789
worst unit in the game by far
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>>584010796
Passanon is far too autistic for that
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>>584010365
based
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Studies show that Cathay was indeed first
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Cathay more like SHARThay
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First vampire? Cathayan, actually.
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Is gutter Oil canon in warhammer?
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>>584011435
Post hot Naaima fan art
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I think anon isn't feeling so well rn..
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>>584011506
This is literally the only thing I've found as far as it comes to Naaima """fanart""". Neferata's handmaiden will not have her day in the sun (because she'd die).
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>>584010990
>I've been here for many years, anon.
Why do you say this no one believes you
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The first Imperium man was probably from Cathay...
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>>584011631
It's actually kinda sad how he thinks anyone is buying it
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hear me out: shart gunners
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We now know the first Everchosen was a cathayan man.
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>>584011646
>>584011753
What are you yapping about
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Why are they not renamed to "Von Carstein Vampire". This is incontinent now and triggers me
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>>584009778
Confederating them is strictly a "for fun" mechanic.
Or when you have the research that makes it cost next to nothing.
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>>584011595
>actual cannibal and unconditionally faithful handmaid of one of the evilest people to ever exist for thousands of years
>good
Whenever anon tries to dig up examples of "good vampires" I always get the impression that they're completely lost in the sauce.
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>>584011926
She's good for me (my penis hehe)
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>>584010613
>Outwardly plays the part of braindead bimbo who'd like to party all of the time
>In private is actually a shrewd mastermind who almost became the most powerful elector count before the others realized what she was doing and all teamed together to stop her scheming
>Never got punished for it because 'teehee, did I do that? karl wouldn't it be horrible if people learned about things you did in nuln?'
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Why do some of you seem to get so insecure when Cathay's achievements are discussed?
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>>584012105
they know their own kingdoms are falling to beastmen and can't do anything about it while Cathay is thriving and improving by the day
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>>584009778
IIRC you get their capital. Which can be useful if you're playing Mannfred since he needs to control Drakenhof and build his landmark up there.

Hopefully the skill trees & traits of old LLs are revisited for future patches, many of them could really use it.
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best of friends :)
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>Outsmarts the apparant smartest faction with a bunch of rats
Ermm... Dragonbros?
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>>584012210
>>584012105
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>>584012210
The glorious middle kingdom's 3000 years of unbroken history surely elevates them above the western powers!
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>>584012039
she's perfect...
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>>584011832
According to leaks, the devs were considering doing so, but then they realized that doing so would obligate to them to make Blood Dragon Vampires, Strigoi Vampires, and Necrarch Vampires

Though really all Vampire Counts units are "Von Carstein" by default, since the Von Carsteins invented the "count" part of the Vampire Counts in setting.

>>584012236
>you get their capital
That's only if you own a vampire crypt under it, or you're neferata and have a coven there.
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>>584012372
goes without saying
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>>584011631
Why would I care if you believe me? When I say I'mma play Total War, should I also first wait till anon believes me? What nonsense is this?
>anon I don't believe you actually drank water
Oh my.. anyway.
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>>584012426
sigmars cumsock
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>>584012350
It's Korea that has a hang-up about that gesture.
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Neferata #1
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>>584012448
Are you genuinely fucking retarded?
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>>584012506
>fledgling compared to her
That's like when you're kids, and someone a few months older than everyone else starts acting like they're hot shit
Vlad was there when Neferata was converting all of the royals into vamps
He was one of the fucking royals
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>>584012506
>Vlad and Neferata are not coeval
Vlad = Vashanesh theory has been DEBOONKED!
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>>584012105
I reckon it is because it feels like an intrusion, I'm indifferent about Cathay myself but I can see how people who were familair with the old lore dislike Cathay suddenly getting the spotlight and reducing achievements of other races because they did it first/do it better/had a hand in it.

I just like the cute dragon girls, and hold a slight disdain for the faction because they stole the trade vision gimmick from Helves for a while.
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are thanquol and bone daddy challenging enough? i want to do another defend the donut campaign
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>>584012590
>t. youngest sibling
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>>584003649
Ulthuan is a boat, it can be as close to a landmass as it wants
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>>584012641
>thanquol
lmao no
>nagash
super ez after the buffs
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https://steamdb.info/app/4202550/charts/#max

HABBENINGS...
SOON...?
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>>584012537
no, I have autism
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>>584012775
I don't car
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>>584012732
they said they will tell us who got into beta this month
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>>584002097
>the Awakening is a Dark Fortress
what did Luthor mean by this
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>>584012819
U don't car? I don't like cars either.
Anyway, I gotta entertain a saar in my /bant/ threads now.
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>>584012732
Are you ready to play the streamer-approved closed beta?
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>>584012845
unless you are an influencer good luck.
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What the fuck is up with rebellions in chaos territory? Are the the ressurection of fucking archaeon himself?
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>>584012719
sorry I mean are their endgame scenarion hard to face as a player? So me as an elf player having to fend off rats and bone daddy
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>>584012105
Because its just as flanderized as NuKislev and the lack of apparent flaws that every other faction has and plenty
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should be able to snag nagashizar very soon
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>>584012894
Rats were bugged and easily wiped out last time I had them, Nagash is less of a skellytide threat and more of a having to deal with his pyramid before you RNG lose all your land kind of. Chaos is the only one I felt like it was a massive tide sweeping over the land ruining it. It worked well for my Neffy campaign, but I've heard people say that AI factions could handle the tide (Aside from the final quest battle)
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HAVE: TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER 40k BETA KEY
WANT: OFFERS (serious only, block if joke)
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>>584012980
Grand Cathay's biggest flaw is that they're too humble.
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>>584012995
You didn't get the instant teleport pyramid node to niggazzar?
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>>584004919
>end turn times mean you spend lots of time just waiting and staring
Just find something to watch in the intervals
Total Warhammer finally gave me an excuse to binge Top Gear
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>>584013084
i got it late and nagash is raping the empire n shi to subjugate vlad which I did
now ig i'll have him conquer shit south
empire is border gore
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the ascendency of Cathay was inevitable once Malerion decided to move all of Naggarond's industry there
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>>584012590
I mean in lore (for all fantasy etc) it's usually the case that first = best and strongest

In real life it's pretty much always the opposite. Eventually someone will pick the craft or attribute up and just do it better than you, and in part because of learning of the first ones mistakes but also the world is big
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>>584013147
ah fair.
i tried it
it was really shit, took two turns to come back i didn't know that, so wasted 2 turns doing that gay shit
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>>584012980
They have some huge flaws, though: too much forbearance, restraint, tolerance for others' mistakes.
The whole setting would objectively be much better off under Cathay's leadership and they could conquer everyone without too much difficulty. But they give too much allowance towards others even though it's obvious they'll never improve. The world becoming a utopia if Cathay throws its weight around isn't a very interesting story, though.
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I should make a mod that renames all LLs to their AoS names.
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>>584013354
What's Skarbrand's AoS name...?
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>>584013446
Skörlerion, Lord of Rage
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>Malerion
>Skorlerion
>Skulltakrion
>Nagashrion
>Bekalorion
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>>584013614
So fucking peak..
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quick rundown on the scheme mechanic for Thanquol?
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>>584013614
Don't forget, Belegar is now Hjulda Drakkblud
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>>584013446
He's still just Skarbrand. There aren't many returning characters in AoS who changed their name. I guess you could say Malekith changed to Malerion, but that's retconned even in other games so it was always his name. Balthasar Gelt may have become Baltas Arum, Lord Skrolk may have become Skrolok Lifebane, Ikit Claw may have become Ikrit.

A bunch of new names were added to some old characters, though. Like in addition to being the Everchosen, Archaon is also known as the World Razor, the Godeater, the Thirsting Predator, etc. Not a big deal.
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>>584000191
>Historical

wgaf lmao?

jk I can't wait for both of them
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>>584011926
>Whenever anon tries to dig up examples of "good vampires" I always get the impression that they're completely lost in the sauce.
I've mostly got the same opinion, though Gashnag ironically does get close. He actually does only feed on bandits and invaders and takes care of his people. He's like everything people project onto Vlad, except not as popular because he's a strigoi without a hot wife and doesn't live in the Empire.
Naaima I don't know that much about but as one of Neferata's closest handmaidens, there's no way she hasn't fucked some shit up somewhere.
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40k... will be bad
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>>584013981
when will this ogre get cancelled
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>>584014113
Well duh it's a Total War game, a made-for-console RTS game, and a Warhammer game. It's a perfect trifecta of bad.
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>>584013614
Louen Leoncoeurion
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>>584013614
kino
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>>584002339
>Becomes really smaht
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nagash is about to start his endgame after i declared war on him
i hate fighting undead bros
>take too much casualty from army 1v1
>his defeated units come back + raise dead
>round2 of 1v1 take too much casualty again
>he repeats bullshit
>all the while i watch his other armies 2 turns away become fullstacks
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Beastmen bros... do you guys still ignore most unit caps and spam ungors until minotaur spam or are the monogod units worth the cost?
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AoS is dumber than ET
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>>584014491
Early AoS certainly was, current time AoS is vastly better than ET. But that's not a big hurdle to clear.
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>>584014113
Maybe so, but hopefully it will be good
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>>584014532
It's new. Skrolk can use it as a mount.
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Go ahead, Claude. Make Total War: Warhammer 40K II. Max effort. No mistakes.
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>>584014730
oh
i found it weird that thanquil released with a pestilence unit so thought it was old
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3817017612
I love these chinese AI mods that don't even have in game screenshots.
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>>584014840
bugmen
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>>584014840
>https://wordtomod.com/
CHIIIINA
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>>584002339
>>character falls to Tzeentch, and uh... ???
Becomes Voldemort.
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>>584014880
@realdonaldtrump @fbi @nintendo @CA DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3816938215
EMPIRE IS NOW PLAYABLE
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>>584015030
Did Total War really fail in China? Since a lot of mods seem to be Chinese
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>Arkhan and Mannfred are the first mortarchs Nagash will confederate
>Arkhan and Mannfred are the only mortarchs you can't pick off in the run-up to Nagash's endgame
>Arkhan and Mannfred are the only mortarchs featured in the cutscene for Nagash's final quest battle
SKELETOR'S STRONGEST SOLDIERS
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>>584015030
hottt

>>584015120
wdym failed? the first serious w40k reveal was on bilibili... warhammer and 3k is fairly big, but chinese abandoned 3K because CA released a 8 princes DLC and that's a very shameful period of chinese history
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>>584015030
coomers can't be stopped...
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Wtf? Random chaos fucking rape army spawned directly in my base?
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>>584015120
If approximately 1 million americans play total war, in a population of 300 million, CA probably would consider it a failure if they don't have 10 million sales in China.
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the quests in the glottkin campaign seems kinda unintuitive, the battle for altdorf was a bit too much effort so I am waiting it out until I can get a hero stack. but now after I take altdorf on the map I am getting a mission to kill spawning rogue armies deep in my territory, and the reward is help during the battle of altdorf. shouldnt this have triggered way earlier. its turn 68. got sidetracked and destroyed bretonnia. also the powercreep is just insane. push a button to get chosen/knights for recruitment, automatically get small mini waagh armies when you do stuff. almost none of the mechanics feel bad.
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>>584015274
Disband a daemonsmith and RP that you sent him to the Flayed Tower for this blunder
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I miss the matched combat mod so much. It's not much fun to watch battles up close without it
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>>584015220
I just thought I read somewhere that both 3k and Cathay were attempts at courting the Chinese and that it failed
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>battles are viewed as a tedium to be avoided
>a mark of a good player is knowing when and how to avoid playing them
>activities in campaign view are limited mostly to settlement management and diplomacy
>the systems are shallow and only facilitate the tedium of army battles, and how to avoid playing them
>all features are broken, none of them are working as intended, and insofar that they do, players will still try to avoid engaging with them
Maybe there's just something fundamentally not good about the TW formula.
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>this was supposed to be a phyrric victory according to autores

ya'll niggas neva shoulda given me Dreadquakes
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wait can u get big bess as nagash? I don't see it
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>>584015795
It's vampirate ror. You need Harkon to unlock it.
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>>584015680
Who is the Astragoth Ironhand of Total War: Warhammer 40,000?
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>>584015829
oh okay
gonna try and make a VC army for luther
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>>584002734
>It is pretty lame that the most dysfunctional
Malekith created a new nation from the ground up TWICE. High elves live in the ancestral home of the elves and the Wood Elves literally inherited the lands Maelkith conquered and built up as the colonies. He is literally the only elf that was a real nation builder and state leader. That's on top of being the literal son of the avatar of Asuryan and Khaine. Even in ET the reason he was chosen is his god blood.
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Skaven rework is coming.
Skaven are getting added to 40k.
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>>584016037
They are the imperium of man cookiedoughbeit
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>>584016037
>Skaven are getting added to 40k.
Right after the Votan start to be relevant in the lore. LMAO
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>>584015674
Auto resolve should just be you watching the AI fight with your army.
But this would only really be feasible if the load times were a few seconds max.
>>
SOON
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>>584016037
Chaos Votann are coming tooo....!!!
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>>584015947
>turn 184
what.. have you been doing for 180 turns..
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>>584016894
earlygame was tough
pre-buffs nagash...
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>>584016030
>Wood Elves literally inherited the lands Maelkith conquered and built up as the colonies
IIRC that's only true of the Laurelorn enclave. The colonies on the other side of the Grey Mountains were founded by other princes, and those were still largely abandoned as a consequence of the War of the Beard. And in the case of Athel Loren specifically, it was never actually colonized in the pre-Sundering era. The elves settled only on the borders of the forest, and didn't resettle within the woods until the very late years of the War of the Beard, when the dwarf armies encroached upon them and the other elves retreated to Ulthuan.
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You cant stop me.
I can and will play my coomer fever dream Total War how I see fit.
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>>584016982
the ethics committee will hear of this
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>>583999284
>blood harvesters
>fighting an army of bloodless creatures

of course they lost
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>>584017106
MAYBE IF CA WASNT STAFFED BY A BUNCH OF EFFEMINATE 'MEN' ASHAMED OF HAVING TESTACLES AND UGLY BULLDIKES AND NIGGERS WE WOULD HAVE ATTRACTIVE CHARACTERS I WOULD NOT HAVE TO MOD IN!
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>>584015674
saves on legendary, IE map being too big, almost tempted to boot up tw warhammer2 for that authentic grindy game that actually has an end.
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>>584017252
this looks a lil bit stretched
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>>584017252
Sex with Shen Changfeng
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Who is Elspeth's canonical "arch enemy" or nemesis?
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>>584017809
Tamurbrap
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>>584017809
Tamurkhan.
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>>584017809
Tamurkhan
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>>584015848
probably an iron warrior techmarine
the demo didn't even have an LL so I don't think you're getting anyone specific
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loli
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>>584017809
If I pull that off, will you die?
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so my dude's aren't able to shoot the 4 meter tall giga cavalry standing not even directly bellow the walls
what a shit game man
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>>584018159
Looks worse
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>Katarin has no Ice Guard to recruit
You stupid bitch. I want them to accompany Neferata and maybe Lahmians
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man nagash endgame is kicking my ass, the armies have so many buffs, like more than 30% phys res and neferata with 35% missile resistance that just ignored my firing line

this is why i like the historical total war games, things die when you shoot them
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>>584018159
HARAM, HARAM, HARAM
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>>584018159
Looks better

>You need DLC to use this item.
Heh.
*takes deep breath* NO!
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>>584018159
where is her huge eyeliner paint thing? this would be perfect with it
its just stupid
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>>584017809
Tamurkhan, she used Theodore Bruckner to bait him into a trap
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Elspeth needs a giant witch hat
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>>584018179
AI is too retarded, have to place them properly on the wall first
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>>584018648
Sellen is more of a Heavens wizard.
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Shhhh, sneaky gits about to do some stabbing.
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>>584018705
She is a WifeWizard
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>>584018841
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>584014880
>https://wordtomod.com/
bearers of the word coming soon! lorgar already making his impact felt
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>>584018705
>>584018858
Seems more like a Lore of Hashut wizard if you know what i mean.
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Total War needs more feet...
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grandpa vs grandma
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>>584019130
Most female LLs are barefoot.
It was a running joke among Warhammer fans that to tell if a fantasy character is supposed to be female or not is based on if they're barefoot or not.
No one knows why GW started doing that, they only stopped in the last year.
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How are you supposed to play as NKari?
Allarielle is too strong
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>>584019130
If you mod it you will cum
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I don't know what fucks up my ground textures but it's starting to drive me mad
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>>584018841
Careful, he's a crafty one.
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>>584019286
He can solo literally everything. Just hide/put the army in the back and send him out and charge cycle weak targets/heros/lords
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>>584014880
you know how in wh2, races in the end game would usually all unite under one faction due to rapid confederation (e.g. greenskins to grimgor, dawi to thorgrim, high elves to tyrion, dark elves to malekith, etc.) and you would fight these huge armies/factions
i haven't tried wh3 since the end times dlc but is there any interest in vibe coding such a thing for wh3? with some changes like a race will pick a random LL's faction to unite under every campaign and some setting on when the unification would begin (i.e. like from turn 1 if you wanted?)
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>>584018858
More of a Melina guy myself, but Sellen is a pretty close second.
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>>584019394
Sounds interesting, but I'm the kind of person who loses interest long before end game so I couldn't say. So far I've used AI only to edit small things or existing mods, so I'm not sure how far you can go with it.
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>>584019394
Was there any particular reason factions basically stopped blobbing up?
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>>584019571
plebbit cried
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>>584019702
Damn shame because at least a blobbed up faction could produce armies. It's really not fair when you have 20 provinces going to war against a faction with like 4-5.
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>>584019346
So am I.
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basedfacepointing.jpeg
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any mod giving vampires coven throne mount?
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>>584020274
THEY SAID IT
THEY SAID THE THING
WE HAVE REACHED MAXIMUM KINO
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>>584020356
they already have it tho
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>>584020595
no
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>>584018841
>>584018965
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>>584020274
What does it do? Better be good for reserving a title like that
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Fuarking chosen cutting my frontline down like it was made out of butter.
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these guys look pretty cool
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>>584020595
I think he means their vampire heroes.
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>>584021371
Just ask Claude
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I love how the game undervalues these absolute nightmarefuel doggos.
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>>584020857
Quite lame.
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Total War: Total War
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>>584019880
>gun bad
Fucking dwarf boomers I swear.
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Goddamn they got shred to pieces in seconds.
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>>584002097
That's a good question actually. I think it's because a lot of the ruined temple cities (Xhotl, Quetza, etc) that Daemons attacked are minor settlements, and all the Dark Fortresses are major settlements.
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>>584021845
dogs are op because they can move and attack at the same time
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>>583997426
>main characters
>6/13 not playable
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I haven awoken from my nap.

>>584017252
Ah shit.. no phone wo dis? Why she in my YinYin faction?
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Random idea to unclutter the map. Randomize which LLs are in the campaign. So there's no guarantee that Louen or whoever spawns on the map, instead there might be a generic NPC faction in their place. Further options could include checkboxes for which factions or races get to be in the game, so you could choose to exclude the whole of Vampire Coast or Norsca.
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>>584022217
Nyo
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>>584022217
fuck no
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>>584022217
if passfag is against it then i'm for it
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>>584022217
Claude, make it happen. Chop chop.
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>>584021341
they ain't bad at rat killin
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>>584009532
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FAGGOT FUCK
I'VE BEEN ASLEEP FOR LIKE AN HOUR
WHY DOES MY VIDYA NOW CRASH ON LOAD YOU STUPID MOD FAG CUNTS
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mIxu I swear to Khorne.. it's always you.. I'mma have your skull
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lol AR trippin'
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>>584022217
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>>584022819
Why aren't you playing paradox shit?
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>>584022819
predictably
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>>584022969
very based army but ur lord ugly as an unclean one's asshole
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>>584014880
Is it working for real ?
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>>584022959
wdym? i don't usually doomstack n shi but I'm not gonna send a real army to go and claim the fuckin galleon graveyard 6 unit garison isolated settlement
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>>584023121
You was supposed to play paradox games because some guy had your back.
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>>584002339
Screeching HR woman.
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damn he's blobbing...
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>>584023383
>Swordmaiden
>actually a spearstacy
Fucking swordchuds
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>>584023104
Haven't tried it but I don't see why it wouldn't since Claude can already do it
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>>584015674
>game becomes more fun the less you play it
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>>584023654
Seems to happen fairly consistently.
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HOLY SHIT HE'S SURROUNDED
i dunno if he'll get out of this one
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>still no 40k news
development hell
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>>584019221
feet is the only fetish left that is ethics commitee approved
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>>583997426
Reminder, we got Skaven leak.
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>>584021845
why dogs?
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>>584022819
Canonical DE strength
>>584022969
Cringe campaign powercreep
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>>584024236
Skaven rework and FLC incoming.
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>>584022969
someone said nagash could turn these into explosive arrow shooters, but i can't find it in his pyramid

did they maybe mean flaming arrows?
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>>584024479
he gives em flaming, magic and poison at the same time
which is cool cause it lets me spam 6 ushabti bows in all my armies, i love those guys and its good to be able to buff em against super late shit
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>>584024582
yeah i think stuff like that is pretty cool, especially for making themed armies
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So uhh.. do I win?.. mmm.. where my win button?
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>>584024791
Fantastic. Put Arkhan in there next.
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Hidden, stuck, unbreakable squig...
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>>584024582
Does his tech tree have no flavor text?
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>>584025040
nope
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>>584025040
AI will fix it
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>>584025040
It's in a sidebar.
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Anons, what happened to cults of khorne? I just remembered those things.. they used to spawn in khorne corruption areas and Skarbrand could teleport to em..
I haven't seen one in.. forever..
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>Submission is a language
sexo
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>>584022424
yeah nagass has several insane buffs for them
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STONE AND STEEEER
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:))))))
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>set myself up with two ambushes
>instead i get ambushed myself

Fuck off..
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+50% Skulls..
Ugh.. I'm so horny rn..
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He's gonna say the lines again! I love the lines!!

Where everyone suddenly? We page 6n.
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Total War: Porn
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I'm so wet rn..
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this is the funnest summoned unit
they just start throwing many nades into their backline
satisfying
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man WHY DID THEY MAKE THE AI SPAM AGENT ACTIONS? I CAN'T MOVE MY AGENTS FUCKING ANYWHERE NOW BECAUSE THE ENDLESS ARMY OF AI AGENTS KILLS THEM OR WOUNDS
this isn't fun at all its not fun to spam agents all over the place the same 1 button just to not get killed on the way
it's unfun busywork
they should make it train less agents at least if they're gonna do this
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>>584028831
funnest is still RATS.. cause they wreck all the artillery
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What are your hopes for the inevitable skaven rework?
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>>584022217
>boot up new campaign
>turn off skaven
>turn off dark elves
>turn off greenskins
time to game
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>>584029165
idk what's up with yalls total wars. Is this something they do on VH in campaign? I play on Hard for campaign and battles but they never use actions.
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>>584029435
>turn off greenskins
>prefering to fight d*wi

shiggy diggy doooooooooooo
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>>584029435
>Greenskins
Literally the most fun race to fight, the perfect horde faction
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>>584029968
I have never played a campaign where dwarves were an enemy worth worrying about
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Why can't my ungors beat chosen?
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>>584021521
bruh
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Ahh he doesnt remember the Dawitide
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>>584030230
you have to go and cry for buff like empiresissies did.
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>>584030179
I have never fucked your mom without cumming inside her NIGGER
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>>584030308
I didn't play 1 or 2 because I took an indefinite break from Total War after Rome 2
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>>584029505
i'm playing on hard and they're spamming actions on my agents every turn
but not on my armies i think
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>>584029435
>Tomb Kings have no money to settle ruins
>Skarbrand has no skulls to settle ruins
Who blobs over the Badlands and southern World's Edge? Karak Azul? Barak Varr? The Sires of Mourkain? Nagash?
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>>584030389
And unlike you cucks we got it, because we're even stronger than MPfags. Kneel.
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>>584030230
Ungors are tier 1. Chosen are tier 3. Gors are tier 3 and should be a match for Chosen. Bestigors, being a tier 4 unit, should mog Chosen.
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I wish Teclis felt more like the super wizard he's meant to be and not just like any other average chump
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Why does Gorbad keep appearing in the empire now? Does this have to do with Thanquol raping the dawi so he gets easy cities?
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>>584030949
I don't know what you mean. He gets like eight different buffs to his WoM cap and a flat 20% discount to the cost of all his spells. He gains greater arcane conduit at rank 8. He has a unique nuke spell. What more do you want?
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>>584031254
Could be the 50 million cheats you're running passcuck, just a thought.
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>>584031254
That's the path his warpath went, historically. Maybe it's weighting, like AI Gorbad getting higher starting aversion with Averland?
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>>584031297
>What more do you want?
Yes
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every time I see a halberd icon on a unit I know I have great confidence in it to hold the line
they've got my back
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>>584031369
I mean, sure.. but this hasn't happened before in any campaign I played before the dlc. Now it happens nonstop. I doubt they changed Gorbad.
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nasty ass looking army
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>charge defense vs large
>charge reflection
lol
lamau even
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>>584030949
That picture is wrong.
In lore Teclis fucks elf chicks, and then overhears them talking about how they wonder if hanging around him will give them a shot at banging Tyrion.
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playing nagash for the first time and just subjucated arkhan
what? it's just a confederation? i thought i'd have him as a vassel?? can i make him a vassel i dont want to control all this
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>>583997426
Why does everyone seem to like Marius Leitdorf so much?
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Rage em, pop crown, collect skulls.
This is so fucking amazing..
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>>584031781
if you want a vassal instead just gift him 1 settlement, but because of nagash mechanics with lands of the dead and sigils you want to actually hold as many settlements as possible yourself. if you want a vassal experience you're better off playing someone like neferata or something
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Have they said anything in the past couple months about giving Mannfred a unique skill line? Given the recent VC rework it seems apropos to at least acknowledge his lack of one as an issue.
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>>584031943
>gift him 1 settlement
thats cheating
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>>584002501
>There's an entire unplayable second half of naggarond
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>>584030949
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>>584032106
irrelevant compared to the old world
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>>584032141
Balthasar is transitioning and goes by Belthania now??!!!
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>>584032141
he is just like me fr fr
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>>584032141
tldr can anyone summarize?
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>>584032106
You can play it in the vortex campaign :^)
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>>584032009
just do it once you meet the requirements to make him a mortarch, you already have the cheat button to confederate him under those conditions
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>>584002501
>no beastmen in the dark lands
Doubt.
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ew
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I hate that anytime the discussion of map expansions faggots just harp on about Ind and Nippon as if we need more shitty fanfic factions in the game. The expansion should be to the playable area that's already in-game. The donut needs more provinces, so does Naggaroth
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Also.. I am so fucking sick of these vamp armies. It's always the same fucking thing.. half the army horses, other half monsters. They recruit nothing else, EVER
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>>584032634
>game starts using your camera again
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ind when
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>>584032752
lel
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>>584032752
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>>584032739
how ironic
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Works every time...

>>584032854
LISTEN
I can only recruit bloodletter and I'm busy moving, I can't stop..
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>>584032854
ALSO
Check em stats. Why would I need anything more than my bloodyletties?
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>>584002501
Lustria is nothing but beastmen (liggers and rats are beastmen)
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>>584022217
40k will fix this
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>>584032752
classic
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>>584032141
>women not looking at him
>*inner incel rage increase*
>women looking at him
>*inner incel rage increase*
Teclincel!
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SKARBRAND TOOK A WEIRD ROUTE SO NOW I HAVE TO GO TO ALTDORF
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>>584030465
>I have never fucked your mom
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Keklis....
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>>584024791
Gay baby jail for all "epic" lords
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>>584034349
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>>584032631
It's not just Rakarth and Toddy who can break a buck
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>>584033669
Teclis is wise to the way of women
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>>583997426
>Main Characters
But Archaon and Nagash aren't in the picture?
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>>584034595
What am I supposed to make of the fuckton of dwarf-bull abominations and the hordes of ratmen if they're not beastmemes?
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>>584032631
>>584034595
The Dawizharr know how to treat a creature with a natural propensity towards Chaos. Also, Centigors are actually very well regarded assuming hey don't get murdered, so it's no surprise there's no warbands. Hell, knowing Chorfs they probably supply local Beastmemes with weapons and tell them to fuck off
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>>584033669
>>584032141
No matter how many elven thots you sleep with once you're rich and famous, the pain of not having dated your cousin Liselle when you were fourteen will never go away.
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I made enemies with skaven, campaign over. They are way too fucking strong...
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>varied, versatile unit roster
>factions with distinct playstyles that nonetheless retain a shared identity
>lords who emphasize different units and mechanics with minimal overlap
>a number of random elements in campaign that keep playthroughs fresh without feeling overwhelming or unfair
Beastmen are just straight up better than your favorite race.
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>Nagash endgame starts
>Previous campaign with his endgame wasn't that bad, not too worried
>Enter battle with one of the spawned armies
>Literally every unit is unbreakable
What the fuck? Did they add this in an update? How the fuck am I supposed to deal with 4+ morghast units that don't crumble ever?
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>>584035409
just kill them
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>>584030748
I kneel
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>>584035409
Just shoot them lol
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>>584034768
Warbands are specifically groups of memes that gather to raid and spread chaos. Neither Skaven nor Chorfs do this
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>>584035654
they're the same picture
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>>584035661
I'm playing chaos though..............
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>>584035843
Just hit them lol scared of a boner chaosissy?
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>>584035396
>All falls to Minotard spam
>>584035409
Only zombie dragons and lords are unbreakable. The rest of the army flops all the same
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>>584035913
So if I kill the lord they'll all lose their unbreakable thing? Because everything in all three of the armies I've fought has been unbreakable
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Doomstack almost complete....
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>>584036174
wait a minute....
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>>584036174
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Does Neferata have any femboy vampires in her retinue? I want vampire bussy.
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>>584037063
Neferata prefers women but every so often converts men.
Every man she has converted has betrayed her.
Canonically, lahmians prefer women over men, with a few exceptions, the loli lahmian famously prefers men over women.
So theoretically if you found a lahmian who wasn't hard gay (and wasn't a loli) you might be able to convince her to turn some femboys, but it's unlikely.
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ended some treaties in the same turn, trade, nap and access.. still got very reliable. but everyone is now wardeccing even when we got naps... is the reliability stat just a meme?
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>>584036143
Every time I fought a Nagash army most of these died after the lord or mortarch for killed, but I've also never seen a gunnery mob with unbreakable so I may have AR'd these
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>>584037449
>still got very reliable
That sounds like a bug, you should not be reliable for ending loads of treaties on the same turn.
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>>584031782
In this house Marius Leitdorf is a hero, end of story!
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>>584037063
Maybe in AoS
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>>584037063
she likes men old
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Are /gsg/ and /civ4xg/ as fixated on whether units look fuckable, or is /twg/ frequented by more mentally impaired goonbrains than other strategy game shitpits on this board?
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>>584037769
/twg/ isn't even half as mentally ill as /gsg/
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I'm reading Skarbrand Doujin rn.
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>>584037626
The closest there is to a prettyboy vampire in that model range would be this fella. He's a wannabe dandy who lives in sewers and fucking loves rats.
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>>584037769
/gsg/ is the most mentally impaired thread that has ever existed, they've been kicked off 109 boards for a reason
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>try to kill teclis
gay ass slaneesh nigger declare on me
>try to kill slanesh
teclis declares on me
the only way to win is not to war
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>>584037531
didnt get any warning, so thought I was good. had to end my friendship with thanqol because he didnt want to be my vassal (glottkin). in order to get the last 3 settlements in empire for my long victory.
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>>584038073
He's literally me...
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>>584038073
>Loves rats
>Made a cloak out of skinned rats
???
What are his thoughts on Skaven?
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i love turning the world into a shithole
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Is there anything in this game as satisfying as running Louen with a Paladin and 18 Knights Of The Realm? No? I didn't think so.
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>>584038310
Skaven aren't rats. Just a bunch of chaos mutants.
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>>584038310
His wife is Skaven
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>>584037769
most classic grand strats didn't really have unit models to turn them into goonslop, but things like CK3 do have a bunch of coomer mods now
the /gsg/ thread itself has been completely hollowed out of any normal posters, now it's just a hangout for discord cliques to offtopic shitpost and stir interpersonal drama, they almost never talk about the games
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>>584038132
>the most mentally impaired thread that has ever existed
sc2 and ksg say hi
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>>584037645
>clearly regal prepared room
>naked skeletons with no adornments
I think Neffy fancies them naked boners
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>>584038518
Proud /scv/ fag here :)
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Favorite Order faction?
Favorite Chaos faction?
Favorite Undead faction?
Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
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>>584038442
yeah, chaos mutant rats
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>>584038841
Empire.
Archaon.
VampCunts.
Greenskins.

Yes I like vanilla ice cream and think the series has been downhill since WH1.
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>>584038841
>Favorite Order faction?
Dark elves/Rakarth
>Favorite Chaos faction?
Nurgle/Tamurkhan
>Favorite Undead faction?
VC/Necromancer that SURPASSED Nagash
>Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
Empire
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>>584038841
>Favorite Order faction?
Gelt
>Favorite Chaos faction?
Archaon
>Favorite Undead faction?
Nagash
>Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
Astragoth
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>>584038841
>Favorite Order faction?
Blood Angels
>Favorite Chaos faction?
Night Lords
>Favorite Undead faction?
Necrons
>Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
Dark Eldar
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>>584039146
Skaven are mutated humans.
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>>584038841
>Order
Vampire Counts
>Chaos
Chaos Dwarfs
>Undead
Vampire Counts
>Asshole
Ogres
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>>584039290
>Astragoth
>CHAOS dwarf
What did she mean by this?
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anyone else love playing human/humanoids witbout monster factions like dwarfs and such? i love playing simple armies and fighting monsters but i dont enjoy controlling monster armies as much
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>>584039501
Play Pharaoh
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>>584039485
the Dawi-Zharr don't join Archaon in the Chaos End Times, they aren't Chaos
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>>584038841
>Favorite Order faction?
Dwarfs
>Favorite Chaos faction?
Warriors of Chaos (Forma de undivided)
>Favorite Undead faction?
Kangz
>Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
Ogres
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>>584039576
pharoah has monsters?
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>>584039696
Yes, there are smeites in it.
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>>584038841
the empire
skarbrand
heinrich kimmler
ikit claw and grom the paunch
love me ogres too but in this order
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>>584038841
Louen/Bretonnia.
Sigvald/Slaanesh.
Settra/Tomb Kings.
Malus Darkblade/Dark Elves.
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>>584039620
They were dead before Archaon even called on them. Grimgor steamrolled their entire race. Only Drazoath managed to escape to the realms of chaos with his prison crew.
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>>584039870
>Ikit Claw
Skaven are Chaos aligned.
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>>584037645
It's not her btw.
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>>584040027
ah
then grom
i always thought ikit had nothing to do with chaos
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>>584040082
They don't until Age of Sigmar which is when the Horned Rat joined the Chaos pantheon.
Though ironically by then Ikit Claw had renounced the Horned Rat and all gods and was just doing his own thing instead of what clan Skryre wanted.
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>>584039972
Grimgor truly is da best. What a pathetic race of jobbers the Chorfs turned out to be, a single Ork destroyed their entire civilization. No wonder the real Dawi don't like to acknowledge they exist, they're far too weak to be counted as true Dwarves.
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>>584039972
I'm talking about the video game the thread we're in is about RETARD
I don't give a shit about Warhammer books and will never respect anything they say
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>>584040082
The entirety of Skaven technology is centered around the Warp, what did you think their alignment was? They also fight with Chaos in End Times and destroy many of the order factions, though that was End Times terrible writing at play since Nurgle+Skaven basically singlehandedly win the End Times for Chaos while everyone else in Chaos does virtually nothing. Which is one of the reasons even Chaos fags hate End Times, amusingly enough.
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>>584039393
they arent
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>>584040082
Before Storm of Chaos, Skaven were kind of their own faction with some rats working more with chaos than others.
After End Times/Age of Sigmar, Skaven became like the step-cousin of chaos
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>>584040298
just rout bro
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Boris is woke?
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i dont get end times
>chaos wins
>world ends
ok? what did chaos get from this?
and i dont know what nagash's role is
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>>584040298
Bro are you seriously trying to argue that the CHAOS Dwarves are not Chaos aligned?
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>>584040575
he takes beastmen refugees in.
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>>584040575
kek
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>>584040625
bro thinks the Democratic Republic of Korea is a democracy
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>>584040587
Chaos bringing an end to the world = the entire world is consumed by the Warp and everyone becomes the Chaos Gods playthings forever. Nagash was going to kill everyone and everything which would cut off the Chaos Gods from accessing the Warhammer world anymore, since their would be nothing that they could conduct their power through since it would be nothing but a realm of death that Nagash would rule over forever. Obviously, neither option is preferable, but ironically Nagash is such a piece of shit even Mannfred decides it's better to let the Chaos Gods consume everything rather than be a slave to Nagash forever, so he stabs Gelt and the world ends. But then Age Of Sigmar happens, an even worse fate than anyone involved could have imagined. Tragic stuff.
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>>584040587
The world wasn't supposed to end. Chaos wanted to exploit the souls of mortal for a bit longer. Instead they get to consume everything at once. They weren't mad at that at all t h o. Chaos in Fantasy doesn't need living beings. That angle is from 40k and the Emperor claiming Chaos will die without sentient life. In Fantasy chaos is a invading force that wants to play out their little demonic wars with human pawns.
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>>584040942
They conduct Warp sorcery which is killing them because it's their religion and they worship a Daemon of the Warp as their primary deity, they are more heavily Chaos aligned than even the Norscans are.
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>>584038841
>Favorite Order faction?
Helves
>Favorite Chaos faction?
Slaanesh
>Favorite Undead faction?
VCounts
>Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
Delves.
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>>584040979
what happens in the age of sigmar world that makes it so bad?
besides it being a shit setting
>>584040981
ah
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Bring me Neferata's head!
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>>584040979
>since their would be nothing that they could conduct their power through
Bro what do you think the dark magic powering Nagash and his undead comes from? Nagash was creating the perfect world for Chaos. The more dark magic you spread the more stable the foothold of the realms of chaos becomes in the material world. That's why the Dark elves have so much problems with chaos invasion. Naggaroth is tainted by dark magic which allows for spontaneous chaos demons manifestations. Nagash wanted to do it on a global scale with a dark magic saturation so high even elves would get cooked.
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>>584041287
They should be able to confederate each other
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>>584041130
ok? They still don't join Chaos in the End Times
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>>584041183
it basically takes place in the realm of chaos
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What do you guys think of the latest Kislev cheat?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3816385668
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>>584041289
Does Sylvania suffer more daemon incidents than the rest of the empire?
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>>584041391
中国第一
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Do I just attack every single norscan?
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>>584041183
>what happens in the age of sigmar world that makes it so bad?
AoS is set in the realms of chaos lol. Dunno if you played Vermintide 2. There is a mode called Winds of Magic there which teleports you to the realm of chaos sections corresponding to the 8 winds. That's where mortals live in AoS after the world was destroyed.
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>>584041289
Look man, I don't write the setting. It was specifically said in the End Times books that the Chaos Gods were legitimately afraid of Nagash and ONLY Nagash since his plan would, somehow, work and cut them off from the planet. Go ask GW how exactly this works if you want explanations.
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>>584041287
I think they should kiss
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>>584041471
no, its just dead people rising from the dead
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>>584041391
>kislev but empire units
really a stunning endorsement of the base faction
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>>584041471
It isn't covered that much but in ET. Nagash fought Nurgle in Sylvania and got beat up because to his surprise corrupted land makes demons stronger lol.
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>>584041350
Because they're all dead or already in the Realm Of Chaos, due to Grimgor pulverizing them, yeah.
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wow arkhan reallh is a jobber
i used to think hes cool before nagash came out now all he does is grovel and shit
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>>584038841
>Favorite Order faction?
Tyrion
>Favorite Chaos faction?
Throgg
>Favorite Undead faction?
Kemmler
>Favorite not Chaos or Undead but also an Asshole faction?
Morathi
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>>584041471
Dunno about more, but it's a thing that happens.
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>>584041669
That just seems to be a way to reward the player for making alliances that is an improvement over the terrible outpost system in the base game. Empire units are all weaker than Kislevs anyway, (outside of artillery) so I don't see an issue.
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>>584041650
Inconsistent then since Sylvania is also tainted by dark magic. That's how dire wolves are created, usually unintentionally. I think Naggarond is so prone to daemon incidents mostly because of its proximity to the wastes
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>>584041967
kislev getting steam tanks kinda seems like cheating tbqhwyf
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>>584041849
Arkhans entire identity is being the one person insane enough to be loyal to Nagash no matter what. He DID save him from starving in the streets but still, even that kind of karmic debt should have its limits.
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>>584042069
You can already do that with alliances and outposts anyway though.
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>>584041287
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>>584042104
What about Neffie
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>>584041849
>>584042104
Arkhan's whole campaign got ruined with the addition of Nagash. Makes no sense to play him now.
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>>584041494
Yes, you play WoC. You clear everything in fortresses and nothing else.
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>>584042104
Arkhan is loyal out of fear of eternal life. He fears Nagash will never allow him to die. And he wants to die. He thinks that helping Nagash accomplish his goals means Nagash will allow him to die never to rise again.
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>>584042256
Neferata's identity is the writers panicking and realizing they never gave her a personality outside of a book that takes place so far in the past that it's irrelevant
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>>584042256
What about her? She's a too big for her bitches idiot that has accomplished nothing of worth or note and is pathetically obsessed with a past that no longer matters while the real shakers and movers ignore her entirely, since she is completely irrelevant. The Lahmians are nothing but bedwarmers to the actual conquerors and rulers of the setting, and always have been.
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>>584042104
ive so much respect for settra now even tho i barely know the lore
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>>584042554
BASED
>inb4 we secretly created the Empire cope
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>>584042353
Arkhan is the biggest idiot on the planet then, since he's since up close and personal for a VERY long time just how well Nagash rewards his servants in the end.
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>>584041287
I want Neferata's head too
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>>584041173
Age of Recknoning art is usually peak but these front lines are completely nonsensical
The goblin is firing together with the bright wizard lol
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>>584042642
Settra is genuinely the coolest character in the entire Warhammer Fantasy setting.
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>>584042240
much more difficult doing it that way than how this mod does it, steam tanks cost a lot of alliance points or whatever they're called and you lose them if the empire faction you're allied with gets ack'd
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>>584042832
elaborate
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>>584042763
The goblin and witch elf are running a backstab on the high elf and priest of sigmar.
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>>584042840
I haven't gotten far enough yet but it doesn't seem that easy to get stuff in this cheat, you still have to farm alliances and maintain them to get the units. Kat flat out getting Toddbringers entire faction system ported over is way more powerful so far.
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>>584042704
you cant handle her
look at her, she looks impossible to please
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>>584042763
For me, it's the elf wizard that has decided to step up into melee range of a black orc and chaos chosen..
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>>584042554
>What about her
Everyone who talks Arkhan has to bring up Neffie because the last end times book had two sentences implying that in another life they may have had feelings for one another.
Despite Arkhan being most famous for his loyalty to Nagash and Neferata being most famous for her betrayal of Nagash and her hatred for him cursing her and all of her kin with the vampire weaknesses.
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>>584043174
They were a thing before End Times I thought?
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>>584043250
Nope.
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>>584015470
thats what happens when you don't have a chinese sensitivty team
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>>584042832
Settra is just one more competent seether amongst a sea of others
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>>584040283
redditgor is btfo'd by the true black Qrc warbQss, MQrglvm Necksnapper
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>>584015470
The reason Cathay got an update at all is because 3k sold so well in China.
GW is just finding issues because the Chinese audience wants Cathay to come out and be the most OP thing ever (also why China loves Space Marines).
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>>584043561
kek Mally is pretty based.
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>>584042906
>Settra
>singlehandedly revolutionized his nations culture
>sacrificed his children to the gods to save Nehekara
>conquered all of Nehekara and vast areas of land beyond that
>raided lustria and the dwarfs and was feared halfway around the world, back before the war of the beard when both elves and Dwarfs were dominant
>tall dark and handsome, had a vast harem
>rules for centuries before dying of old age
>scared the mortuary cult shitless so they continued to find a way to bring him back thousands of years after he perished
>when he finally came back, beat the shit out of all the lesser tomb kings who challenged him and destroyed their shit
>reunified Nehekara
>chased away that faggot Nagash not once, but twice
>marched right into the chaos wastes and rekt the Chaos mortals harder than anyone before or since
>continued to rule Nehekara for thousands of years, fighting off every challenge to his throne and external threat up until Nagash usurped the literal god of death
>DOES NOT SERVE or bow to anyone
>After being "destroyed" by Nagash in End Times, comes back and ultimately bodies Nagash after being empowered by the Chaos Gods, then tells Nagash he's not even worth killing and flips off the Chaos Gods for trying to get him to obey their whims
>Walks off into the sunset as the victor even as the world falls apart

In short, Settra rules.
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>Settra is
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>>584043812
>literal who
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help
i just took the black pyramid and now its floating away

also im about to lose all my province because lmao spawns fullstacks in my undefended areas
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>>584044045
SUCH IS THE POWER OF NAGASH
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>>584043812
>Do Nagash's final quest battle
>Defeat the forces of Order
>Archaon and loads of daemon summoners show up
>Defeat Archaon
>Then fucking Settra with immortality buffs from the gods shows up
That was honestly really fun and I almost lost a few units in that final part, but end game Nagash is so ridiculous it wasn't even close.
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>>584043968
Better to die on your feet than live on your knees. If only Mannfred learned that lesson a bit earlier before deciding to end the world rather than serve Nagash.
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>>584044045
Nagash isn't stuck in jail with you, you're stuck in jail with him!
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>>584044045
You cannot stop the Nagash end game, the pyramid always floats away.
You have to destroy the mortarchs before it reaches Niggyshizzy
In other words, you dun goofed, focusing on the one thing you can't change.
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>>584044280
You should be able to attack the black pyramid. It's just a huge warp stone cache that is easy to blow up with magic.
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>>584041967
Empire has better cavalry thoughbeit and better gunmannii and better mages
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if warpstone is chaos magic why do only the skaven use it and not chaos guys
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>>584043812
based
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>>584040979
>Mannfred ruins the ritual because he'd rather die than spend eternity serving Nagash in the world afterwards
>Nagash returns in the next world and specifically brings Mannfred back to make him spend eternity serving him as punishment
Nagash will always be based.
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knights of the blazing suns or reiksguard? playing as Franz.
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>>584044591
Because skaven are shit at collecting dark magic. Same as Nagash btw and why necromancers need to haul corps cars. Servants of the dark gods are blessed by their patrons to be able to collect dark magic as easy as the separate winds. Only elves have natural aptitude for dark magic creation and collection. Also becoming a vampire turns your body in a dark magic generator(because you are dead)
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>>584044605
bitch fucked up my run
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>>584036143
>Kill the lord
>They're still unbreakable
I also checked and every single unit isn't just unbreakable but also has a 25% ward save, perfect vigour, 5% physical resistance, 10% spell resistance and 15% missile resistance. This has to be the product of a mod or something, I refuse to believe even CA could be retarded enough to add this to their rank 9 fullstack spawns in an update
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>>584044638
It's impossible for me to ever view Nagash as anything but a bitter, jealous faggot whose entire existence is centered around his seething sense of inferiority after I read his books.
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>Did alliances with everyone cuz chaos shit
>Somehow managed to betray this alliance when the Awakened declared war, and I chose to keep the alliance????
I am now at war with LITERALLY EVERYONE and have no way of resolving this issue

- 1 campaign lul
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>>584045156
Nagash has always been a loser, and people more or less acknowledge the only reason he was made big dick necromancer is because there was just enough lore to support it without GW having to pay royalties to anyone
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>>584044723
If you're using the Singe Skill Compilation cheat, Reiksguard. Otherwise, Blazing Suns.
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>>584044723
Reiksguard are pretty good on Franz with his buffs
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So what mod do i get to stop low tier ranged chaff from absolutely melting even high tier big monsters
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how would you rework poor markus wulfhart (no greater marksman btw)
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>>584045156
No one really comes out of those books looking good.
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>>584045520
Unironically SFO.
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>>584045156
very grimdark
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>>584045551
skills more on missile units and movement
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>>584045674
what about his campaign
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>>584044045
>the hot girl in class when the teacher ask me to me to sit next to her
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>>584045602
guess i'll just wait a month then
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>>584045993
grim
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>>584045560
>14 year old serving girl
this is old even by our own historical standards (and current in some thirdie parts of the world)
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>>584040516
Why do people keep thinking the end times / aos made skaven chaos a propos of nothing or something? They've always been chaos. Their own weird version of it, kind of doing their own thing (not too dissimilar from chorfs) but still decidedly chaos.
Where does this myth come from? Some youtuber or what?
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>>584038841
DRUCHII
DRUCHII
DRUCHII
DRUCHII
(only epic lore bros will understand)
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>>584046250
Sure, but every reasonable person acknowledges that this is wrong, which is why even in le grim and dark settings, only villains are pedophiles
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>AoS slop
The day of the full retcon of this garbage experiment rapidly approaches, attendance for AoS tabletop in my city has gone down by like 80% and they're cancelling most events now instead
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>>584046445
>look guize this asswipe segment from pg42 of the 2nd ever white dwarf magazine means this is the real canon! the lore was super serious then!
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Claude, make me a mod that speeds up Old world. No mistakes!
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>>584046651
Ptra willing
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>>584046651
So AoS has finally become as soulful as Fantasy was before it death?
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>>584046867
Let him make some mistakes don't be a dick
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>>584047045
Ok, but max effort then
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>>584046651
I'll believe it when The Old World enters the top 10 miniatures lines. Kekaroo!
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>>584047107
>Warmachine at #4
How the fuck is that game still alive
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I got bored with the update again.
But one Nagash and one Woc campaign to the long victory is pretty good. Sucks the AI still collapses after about 50 turns.
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I wonder why some races have a conscript option that heals SEMs and others have one that only restores unit models
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>>584044045
>the Black Pyramid of Nagash
>goes out to buy cigarettes
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>>584047248
They brought it back recently. A lot of the oldfags are mad because every single model got squatted or something.
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>>584046717
Even mark of chaos had skaven teaming up with chaos.
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>>584047248
New models baby!
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why does being flanked make the undead disintegrate
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>>584046572
What exactly is wrong with being attracted to a girl at the height of her femininity and beauty?
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>>584047371
I know Privateer Press sold it and promptly shit itself and died, Looking at the new miniatures some of them are pretty grim.
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>>584047443
because muh leadership
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>>584046717
lil bro horned rat wasn't even confirmed to be a real entity until ET. Before that he could have been a nurgle greater demon cult which was suggested many times in the lore.
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>Playing as Arkhan the Negro, babysitting Nagash
>Suddenly in one turn Nagash become the strongest power in the world
>Check map
>He confederated Vlad that conquered talmost all of the Empire like in my previous 3 runs
I get Vamps are very strong in the current patch but Vlad seems on a whole different level. Why it seems nobody can stop him from annexing the Empire? Even turning all the elector counts into LLs by using Mixu's legendary mods seems do nothing to stop his endless conquests
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why isnt heinrich kimmler a horde? it would fit him so much
for the empire make the bald fuck a horde or maybe markus
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>>584047248
The models are awesome, that's why. I don't know any lore though.
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>>584046717
Their literal first appareance is worth mentioning yes. They're also still described as children of chaos in their 4th edition army book which is when the setting was pretty damn established, and to my knowledge they've never been described as anything else.
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>>584047634
What's the babysitting campaign like? I think arkhan should have gotten something like the system bhasiva has where Nagash gives you shit sometimes.
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>>584047107
I only know 40k/AoS from this
I recognize a few franchises though. Didn't knew they did dolls
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i swear they fixed anti player bias, the AI is far less schizo now i can roleplay and have fun now
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>>584047634
The new recruitment methods let him come back almost instantly even if he happens to lose a battle, which is pain even for the player, and impossible for the other AIs to handle. It was bad enough before the rework when he would return next turn with a shitstack of zombies and skellies, now he comes back with a full stack of Varghuls, Blood Knights, Mournghuls and Lahmian Maidens. Vlad is destined to rule the Empire this patch cycle as a result.
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>>584047634
>Why it seems nobody can stop him from annexing the Empire?
I think the devs may have lobotomized the Empire AI. Dunno why. But Elspeth will literally not even move on some turns.
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>>584047717
>to my knowledge they've never been described as anything else.
When in doubt just consult the original skaven lore book!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swords_of_Lankhmar
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>>584047634
It's decent, but only with multiple mods that makes allies, vassals and AI as whole less retarded. Also the mod to sell and buy provinces from other factions to fix bordergore remnants
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>>584047634
Il Bastone di Nagash...

Mi bùtto in ginocchio...
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>>584047894
Shows how online discussion doesn't reflect reality. AOS has never left the top 5 since it came out, and has spent most of its time in 2nd place until Battletech had a revival, meanwhile the Old World came out at the start of 2024 and has never entered the top ten
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>>584047952
Dont all vamps count can return back immediately with full doomstacks? Then why all the others vamps are just strong, while Vlad seems a unstoppable undead primarch hellbent to unify the planet? He also never has allies because he hates everyone for whatever reasons
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does deathblow trigger per unit model falling to low health or shared unit HP?
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>>584047107
Literally anyone with a brain understands that charts from ICv2 are completely irrelevant.

ICv2 is an online trade magazine, that selectively approaches a small number of friendly contacts (probably mostly distributors, and a handful of actual retailers) and vibe checks what lines are "selling well." They do not obtain any actual sales numbers. They do not contact a majority of distributors and retailers. Most importantly: they do not have any vision on internal Games Workshop sales, and they do not have ANY data from outside of the USA. Nothing from Europe, not even anything from Canada.

AoS copelets will go, "sure it sucks, but it's the best numbers we have!" but that isn't how data collection works. You cannot parachute into a small town in North Dakota and poll the locals and go, "here are our best elections projections." The data is so incomplete as to be worthless. It is clickbait for the online trade mag.
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>>584047634
Basically what >>584047952 said.
Vampire Counts AI does not use Corpses/Blood, it does not even simulate using corpses/blood, so they effectively have infinite recruitment of the highest tier units their buildings provide unit caps for.
Their weakness is their late game buildings are still expensive as fuck, so if AI vlad doesn't kill Elspeth & Karl before Empire gets to T4, they just steam roll him after that with their own AI cheats.
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>>584047634
>peace negotiation between two rogue armies
Huh, guess that happens.
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>>584048189
>Dont all vamps count can return back immediately with full doomstacks?
other vamps don't get to ignore the wound mechanic
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>>584048137
Keep in mind that "bastone" in colloquial italian can also be used as a euphemism for "big cock"
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6e army book has the same bit
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I've been staring at the new campaign screen for 10 minutes now. I haven't played
Bretonnia
Daemons of Chaos
Dwarfs
Greenskins
Norsca
Skaven
Slaanesh
The Empire
Tzeentch
Nagash (not really feeling him right now)
Vampire Coast
and I guess Warriors of Chaos apart from Festus and Valkia
Who should I play? I really like artillery and big monsters.
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>>584048189
Kemmler tends to wipe out most of Bretonnia before Louen (usually allied with Toddy or Karl) wipe him out through sheer force of numbers.
Ghorst usually takes over a huge amount of land unless multiple declarations against him occur.
Mannfred gets steamrolled by Settra.
Neferata usually has a decent chunk of the dark lands before all of the fire damage kills her.
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>>584048368
>I haven't played
>The Empire
You should do that at least once.
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>>584048368
>I like artillery and big monsters, which of these races should I play?
>and no, don't tell me the only race on this list that has artillery *and* big monsters
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>>584048281
Why the fuck CA keeps adding convoluted bloated mechanics that AI just ignore? No wonder the game is such a spaghetticode they gave up unfuck a long time ago
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>>584048368
>Arty & Big Monsters
Skaven or Vamp Coast.
Vamp Coast has more variety of monsters, Skaven has better arty.
Both have both.

>>584048529
It saddened me to realize this was the case. I know they're trying to avoid the old days where Kemmler would travel the world going to all of the biggest grave piles and making the most disgusting doomstacks, but there has to be a better way than what they're doing.
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>>584048252
Eh, trade (3rd party sales) are BY FAR gw's biggest source of income, dwarfing both online and their own retail. Likewise, sales from north america are almost as big as the rest of the world combined, I believe it's like 45%.
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>>584048368
>daemons
Big monsters. But you don't get them fast because the factions is fucktarded.
>dwarfs
Artillery and guns but sorta boring. Like the slowest faction in the game boring
>greenskins
Big monsters but mostly about infantry but you FEEL fun.
>norsca
Not very heavy big monsters. Kinda cool vikings though.
>skaven
Big monsters AND artillery in abundance
>slaanesh
It's a flanking focused faction with some monsters that feel like cav
>the empire
Artillery out the ass.
>tzeentch
Some monsters and no arty. Great fun though, love the ranged focus
>Nagash
He's the biggest monsters in the game with overly sexy legs
>vampire coast
big monsters and gunlines and a horde. Great choice!
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>>584048252
You wouldn't be saying this if TOW was on there. Meanwhile Games Workshop's comment on their huge new box release in their investor report (illegal to lie on btw) is just "it came out", vs talking about how popular chorfs and cogforts are
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>>584048618
>I know they're trying to avoid the old days where Kemmler would travel the world going to all of the biggest grave piles and making the most disgusting doomstacks
That was actually more sovlfull and lorefull than Vlad just playing with litterall godmode cheats that allow him to spam doomstacks every turn
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cant i pay dorfs to settle a groodge
c-can we talk about it
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>>584048618
>e old days where Kemmler would travel the world going to all of the biggest grave piles and making the most disgusting doomstacks,
Kemmler going to old battles in the world would have been a great unique mechanic for him to get corpses. Both necromancers would have made great hordes.
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>>584048884
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>>584048618
>>584048805
Why in gods name would you EVER recommend playing Vcoast in their current abysmal state to anyone? At least recommend a few cheat overhauls so he doesn't suffer THAT badly. Still a terrible choice of a faction to play in their current state.
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>>584048170
Yeah, I mean I don't follow this stuff at all though, I only recognize Battletech because of the video game. Never heard of AoS before playing TWW. Same with Old World
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>>584048884
OOOOOUGH I'M GONNA GROODGE
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>>584048518
Skaven? Yeah, was thinking that too. Thanquol's Magma Cannon does turn me on a little bit desu.
>>584048513
Will do at some point. I just look at their roster and its either generic man with a sword, a gun or on horse. Not really that interesting compared to all the other fantasy races.
>>584048805
Skaven it is then. Thanks
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Is there a mod to manage items?
Because for fuck sake, CA couldn't have made it more of a chore to equip your characters than they did
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>>584048368
Skaven are what you want. Ignore Vampire COast its so fucking bad right now.
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i dont get why high difficulty AI just spams stacks of shit that turn every fight into a slog instead of better units? i dread battles because of this
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>>584049003
It's like old ogre kingdoms. The mechanics might be shit but the roster is top tier.
Also vcoat mechanics aren't that bad? You can just ignore them entirely if you want.
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>>584049128
We really gonna pretend coast has never not been bad?
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>>584048884
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>>584048869
I agree.
I would love to see a full rework of AI and how they handle their mechanics/functions.
Vampires, as the vampire rework stands, should be the "third party" faction.
Sure they'd have a few battles here and there, but they need a lot of corpses, and converting corpses into blood should really reduce the amount of corpses they have access to in their local lands.
So searching for other groups that are fighting elsewhere, and then third-partying them as a faction that attacks one side, or the other, or both, really should be their game plan, since the more death the better.

>>584048953
If nothing else, that would be fun as well, but I think vamps already got their rework, so the AI should just be updated/tweaked to go with it.
Unfortunately the AI not using any of the resources at all makes this kind of a moot point, and the passive corpse generation is too strong imo.

>>584049003
I've played Nocty and Luthor several times, the one time I did try an overhaul mod, I hated how stupidly OP it made them. What's wrong with their current state?
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>>584048193
per
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>>584049303
Claude rework the AI
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>>584049361
thank you
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>>584049095
>Not really that interesting compared to all the other fantasy races.
Empire was fun because it was so fucking hard you felt like just a bunch of regular heroic dudes trying their best to survive. It's not hard now though.
What sucks about 40k is that IG don't have that same feeling. In fantasy the average empire officer cared about his men and the battlefield chatter you sometimes hear where a soldier says he is looking for hans and that he promised his mother to keep him safe is nice. If empire was a newer faction they would probably have a lot more of that.
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>>584049386
MAKE NO MISTAKES
MAKE IT SO NOT EVEN VOLOUND CAN COMPLAIN
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>>584049487
you just reminded me shogun 2 is in a couple of days.
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>>584049487
I believe in Claude
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>>584049450
i mean a lot of imp guard comissars etc care about their troops, cain, gaunt and yarrick all the names ones pretty much care about keeping em alive and not sacrificing them for no reason
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>>584049487
MAX
I
MUM
EFF
ORT
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just lost my light wizard that was given for free. What wizard should I recruit for franz? The army is mainly infantry, 1 mortars units and 1 reiksguard
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growing old waiting on ow turns
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>>584049936
metal
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>>584049487
You motherfuckers are going to cause the rise of skynet by giving the AI sisyphean tasks
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What do you guys think about during loading screens?
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>>584050756
i have an M.2 ssd they are like 5 seconds nigga
god forgive me for flexing on you in my folly and may my drive live forever more because i can't afford another one of these with current storage prices
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>>584050756
I alt-tab to lurk 4chan, no need for any pesky thinking that way.
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Claude find out the cause of these unbreakable niggash armies
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>>584050756
alt tabbing to doujinshi
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>>584050828
>e 5 seconds nigga
You mean 30, right?
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>most of Ulthuan conquered by turn 20
I still love Arbaal
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>>584050931
nah def way less than that
i don't count em but they are super fast with a pci-e 4.0 speed ssd
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>>584049128
It's funny because Nagash is scary because there's a bunch of handgunners and deck gunners backing up the undead shit
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GIVE ME AN ARCHMAGE WITH LORE OF MISTS
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>>584051135
People actually use lore of mists?
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>>584051135
>>584051175
Sick of the cringe unneeded lores like mists and hag and stealth
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>>584051268
Most of them are fine but I've never used MIsts outside of trying Aislinn's campaign
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How do I email CA with a petition to make Harry into a proper LL with faction?
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you mean to tell me man sized rats live beneath us?
pfft lmao, you spend too much time on twitter
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IT IS NIGHT
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>>584051354
The first step would be to create a petition.
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>>584051492
This night?
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>>584050828
so do I but they take longer than 5 I'm pretty sure
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>>584051629
How do I do that tho.
Also would you guys join my cause to give the TRVE main character of Warhammer, John Warhammer (spiky), his rightful role as a faction leader instead of an ornament?
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>>584051354
Total War: Harry Potter would be kino
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>Game is bugged and can't subjugate Luthor

epin
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"Would you like to sign my partition?"
*Kills the Phoenix King and causes an eternal war between Elves*
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>>584051851
LUTHOR HARKON
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Why is Lore of Life the best Lore of magic?
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>>584051851
>>584051894
harkonschizo lives on in game
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>>584043561
Rizz King of Naggaroth
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So do the endgame crises feel meh to anyone else? Honestly it just feels like extra busy work; if thematic at least. Good presentation, but overall I feel like I'm just chasing shit around at the endgame, where I'm already trying to skip a billion notifications for shit I don't care for anymore, just to get to the end so I can do a fresh game.
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>>584043561
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is it true in 40k someone looked at distant galaxies and most of rhem were filled with greenskins or devoured by nids? how will they feature this in tw40k i wonder
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>>584051975
you seem to prefer dark magic
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>>584052335
it won't, GW don't care and can't decide what to do with other galaxies, the story is fully within our galaxy
also its not greenskins it's nids yeah some shi like they tried to go beyond and saw that but it coulda been the nid hive mind just projecting fake shit

just like everything in 40k it COULD have been anything, depending on the writers' whims
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Whats the move with glotkin? I wanna vassal wulfrik for an actual norscan for ally recruit, but he has 4 armies; 2-20 stacks and 2 half stacks at turn 8.
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>>584052082
>Honestly it just feels like extra busy work
Reading these threads I've got the impression that nobody actually enjoys playing TW. Every single instance of the game requiring the player to engage with literally anything on the screen seems to be treated like a chore. It's very strange.
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>>584051135
Telcis should be able to unlock a unique Mist Archmage with his wizardly things mechanic.
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>>584052538
you just have to beat wulfrik once, no?
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>>584051975
It's one of the signature lores of the Wood Elves, who are based.
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>>584052670
To subjugate?
Unless they changed it, it was get them down to a single settlement then attack that settlement.
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>>584052335
>greenskins
How? The old ones created orks specifically to fight in war in heaven and the eldar empire kept them in check for millions of years
I beg of you, TTS lore is not real lore
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>>584051975
Hot babes use it.
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>>584052841
when i was playing archaon this patch i subjugated arbaal after beating him in battle, never sieged him
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>>584052630
I had alot of fun with Thanquol's campaign. The early/mid game is fine. It's when it's late game, you have a empire full of buildings to build and armies with lords and heros demanding you allocate skill points, and god help you if you can't just leave someone garrisoned and you have to move 'em out and back in just to go to the next lord awaiting orders.

Especially once everything starts conglomerating and you're facing like a giant army of dark elves or something and trying to get your victory conditions in so you can say you're done with a session.

See thing is, I went Dwarfs for Vermintide because it makes sense. Problem is, I have to move all those armies to the far corners, and it takes time.
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>>584049487
The only way volound wouldnt complain is if the AI brought his legs back
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>>584052898
I don't think anyone knows because frankly, it's a headache trying to make up planets for our galaxy, let alone other galaxies. So better to just say "here be dragons" and call it a day.
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>>584053281
>>584053281
>>584053281
>>584053281
NEW
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>force peace
>take their settlement away
ok tzeench is pretty fun
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>>584045560
Well? What's the answer?
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>>584052335
gw just doesn't care. the chaos gods don't go beyond the galaxy because reasons, but also they're an existential threat lol



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