Download (Android/iOS/EGS/Windows)https://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/#mainhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3513350/Wuthering_Waves/>Wuthering Waves Cinematic Short | Hsin's Trailhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2W0r2k_aSM>Wuthering Waves Version 3.7 Preview Special Broadcasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMa_e5ChL6w>3.7 Official Trailer | Prism's Illusion, Heart's Illuminationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLWZ-bApa2c>Map:https://wuthering-waves-map.appsample.com/>Convene Trackerhttps://wuwatracker.com>EventsWHEN IN DOUBT, CHECK: https://wuwatracker.com/timeline[Gifts of Waking Moon 7-Day Login Event] [30 Sep - 11 Nov][Dreams in the Capsule Area Exploration Event] [30 Sep - 11 Nov][Cubie Wars Leisure Event] [30 Sep - 12 Nov][Artisan's Search Featured Combat Event] [08 Oct - 26 Oct][Bountiful Crescendo] Limited-Time Material Double Drop Event] [15 Oct - 22 Oct][Waking Moon Fishing Web Event] [15 Oct - 01 Nov][Echo Erase Leisure Event] [22 Oct - 09 Nov][Gifts of Singing Drizzle Limited-Time Login Event] [22 Oct - 11 Nov][Beyond the Waves: Land of Xuanfang Featured Exploration Event] [29 Oct - 11 Nov][Chord Cleansing] Limited-Time Echo Double Drop Event] [04 Nov - 11 Nov]>Timeline, Rewards and Media Contentshttps://rentry.org/wuwavgv2>Emoteshttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GY6YgPhhOsxN2oW0AbIywdO9Z1_OFe6Khttps://files.catbox.moe/49buge.zip>/wuwa/ Friends Listhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MzulbsusjOWpaFg6o6kk3TvCWfFYi6EF7NyJXqIazGo>NEWS/EVENTShttps://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/5571Previous:>>583958483
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGCHAAAAAAAO
>>584022179saddest artist>Bullied for being straight
Solon No Huanglong Part3 pleaseSolon No Huanglong Part3 pleaseSolon No Huanglong Part3 please
>>584022179
>>584022485We still have Menghzou proper and the other 5 regions of Huanglong gweilo.
Hmilf
>>584021870Girls i likeAnd being meta is just a bonusIn anyway i try to pull until they're comfy enough to sustain my enjoyment for long time if they're kinda weak or nicheSome rare case are like zani i pulled her because i like her but she's kinda unusable because i dont have pheeb it kinda still pmo after a yearAlsoStill sour of Hsin and souming current team building but it's probably sure there will be more unison team in the future so pulling one shouldn't make one anon seethe they'll definitely usable hopefully for newfedLink always the enjoyment and playability with your favorite character it's simple as thatUltimately it's just team building linking a puzzle together and the only variable are your favorite piecesTethys is laggy and need to be trained
A lot of Wuwa gameplay problems could be fixed if enemy attacks don't interrupt your rotation. Screencap this trvth nvke.
I regret skipping Qingxiao
I regret skipping Jingran for Hsin
>>584023217Gay
did my game just rape itself with the launcher update, where the fuck is the launcher's executable now
>>584023194I don't regret skipping menghzou final for hiyuki's s3
>>584023628
>court of savantae>Mysterious group of super geniuses>Disappeared one day all of a sudden>Turns out hsin purged themI mean it's told that it was mutually beneficial but in end she got rid of them because they were too dangerous to the world
>>584024010Pretty sure they had more members than just the ones that helped Hsin.
Muyuslurpers still havent apologized btw
>Despite the age gap...Me on the right
So pretty
New leader of the blackshores
>>584024201Maybe not. We've never met one and all of their facilities we've seen in Jinzhou look like they've been abandoned for 200 years
>>584024909I thought that was wawa
3 patches into china and it feels like almost all fanart and discussion is still about lahai-goy characters
>>584024976>these dudeswho?
>>584024623
>played 2.x because of frog>played 3.x because of Amy>don't about chink slop at fucking all >on the verge of uninstalling 3.8 and 4.x better be real fucking good
>>584025042They died outMost of their research came back to FractsidusThose stuck in the Heart realm are the lucky one
>>584025181*don't care
>>584024976>new leadersThat's Rover and Aalto, anon... You do play the game, right?
>>584024521Why would they. It's natural for humanity to mistrust secretive Gods ruling over them.
>>584024976Rover's 3 canon wives
>>584022179sex the Rover
You now remember the real jade beauty of not china
>>584024976
>>584025348never heard of them
>>584024976>tattoos
>>584024521Sorry for what?
>>584025349He's exactly the example of what would happen if a normal human tried to pry into knowledge that was not meant for them,also>Yeah I know the sentinel has been diligently guarding the country with the bots BUT WHAT IF!!He only needed a fedora to tip
>>584025278Where do you get that from? According to the lore they were disbanded and haven't been seen in 200 years. 3.7 explained why. A Fractsidus member funded their research while they were still active. That's how they got a hold of it.
>>584025583Jeji is a cutie Anyone hating on jeji is prolly a faggot or a foid
My favorite region is still Septimont.
>>584026017>Where do you get that from?Normal human usually don't live past 100 years dude
>>584026085Me on the left
>>584025983But...she wasn't. That was a major plot point. Whole region is just metaphorical for the cyclical death and rebirth of civilization with power dynamics. Muyu was fine in questioning sentinels, he was still doing it for selfish reasons though(or maybe he would have just spread the knowledge to humanity directly after).Kind of like a Prometheus stealing the fires and giving it to humanity deal.
>>584026197The Freemasons have been around for 300 years. Do you think they're immortal...?
chinaslop 2.0 killed this game
>>584025983>Yeah I know the sentinel has been diligently guarding the country with the botsMillions are deadIf Hsin had given her tech to humanity we could have prevented that
>>584026385>Pretty sure they had more members than just the ones that helped Hsin>Maybe not. We've never met one>They died out
Will solon rape jeets and other brown mystery meat with the stream again? Lets find out tomorrow
>>584026267She was literally like a nuclear reactor powering the whole city if Muyu didn't act like a spazzing fuck she wouldn't need to almost dieOr maybe she let things escalate like that so she could meet Rover again
wife
Secret kept are weapon wasted
>>584026714>around since the first Lament>built the SkyArk Space StationThe Court has been around for 10.000 years and disbanded 200 years ago...
>>584026796I don't think so since Hsin wouldn't have hesitated in giving Suisui her fragment as Suisui's plan was to give it to Rover instead of Hsin's designated resonator. TDs were already spreading out of control prior to bots going haywire.
I wish we could change the size of the overlays
>>584027196She was scared of getting scolded by Rover, notice how when she offered her sweets she was almost showing off her nipples trying to seduce Rover into not yelling at her
I would have sex with frover. She's the hottest girl in game.
>>584022179Started the game a week ago and just got my chest for a free 5* weapon selection. From the new player weapon banner I've already got 2 copies of Emerald of Genesis and one Static Mist, what should I pick? My current team is HRover/Sanhua/Verina and I've got the 2 EoG on the swordusers and a Variation (grade 2 cuz I got a dupe) on Verina. I read that Cosmic Ripples isn't better for Verina and I don't really have any other units that don't use swords desu (eg Danjinn is the only other person I'd slot into my team atm). I pulled Hshin but I got her sig weapon anyway
>>584027819I would say save it for a future character since the chest is permanent.
Damn, wonderful atmosphere here
>>584028034ok ill do that
>>584027061So, they died out.
ALERTCODE REDTOWER #42 WHICH IS LILY SHILL HAS AN ECHO SHILL BUFF FOR FLOORS 3/4SIGRIKAS TOWER
Two dangerously lewd women...
Kuro Games needs to take a page out of Azur Lane's book and give us wedding dress skins.
I love wuwa!
>>584027819Also will I EVER get the chance of pulling SHOREKEEPER without spending $150? this is fucking insane
>>584028510Matrix have echo buff for ages but no siggy THOUGH
Anomaly Zones might be the worst puzzle ever that being introduced in this game.They long, tedious and there are too many of them.
>>584028412Dying out and disbanding aren't the same thing. After 10.000 years of service they disbanded, because they started working for Hsin as Celestials.
>>584028953THIS IS THE REAL DEALLILY 2ND MODE ECHO CONFIRMEDSIGRIKACHUDS WE RISE
>>584028715It's not an exaggeration to say that Kuro Games has the best environmental art direction in videogames right now. There is no other company that comes even close, especially with KG's output of releasing one major area every 4-5 months that looks this good every single time.
>>584028720YeahYour only hope is AnniversaryBut even that is iffy(looking at camellya)It is what it is when you're a latefag
>>584022179Is the Hshin/Suoming/Lily team actually going to be good or is it time to stop pulling for the next couple months?
>>584029069>It is what it is when you're a latefagprobably the biggest thing that led me away from downloading a gacha for years but the girls in this one were too cute so I decided to give it a try anyway
>>584029289Some permanence event allow you to use them as trial characters so you can(kinda) cope with thatEx: Dreaming deep and honami
>>584029173probably won't be powercrept for about 6 months
>>584028545The problem is people will get really upset if their favorite girl doesn't get one.
>>584028720Her second rerun was in August so I doubt she'll get another one anytime soon considering all the 2.X and 3.X characters that haven't had their second reruns yet. .
>A new echo support? For me?
>>584029615Nope you stay in the mono fusion team sorry
>>584029451Yeah as a new player I get these beginner trial units (currently trying out Jinhsi w/ my Hshin) and 2 "tiers" (world levels) from now I get to use Shorekeeper for a bit so there's my cope.>>584029465Probably my best way of getting a meta team for now then so I guess I'll pull for the other 2
>>584029472So release one per girl each patch. I fail to understand why Kuro is hesitant to capitalize on the value of paid skins. There is zero reason why Kuro shouldn't be releasing at least one paid skin per patch. Why waste pretty skins on region-exclusive F&B collabs (like pic related) that basically end after only 2-3 weeks of promotional time (after which the collab ends and you make no more money as a company), instead of putting them in the game where you can make profits off of them forever?
>>584028545Okay assuming it's like AL and you can only choose ONE(1) wuwer to be your wife in a dressWho would my anons choose?
She's always so sad...
>>584029661You're not sorry...
>>584029804Honestly looking at how they handle skins in PGR it's weird that they don't do more skins per patch, maybe people shitting themselves over Jinny skin scared them off from that.>>584029815Tough choice for me it's either Aemy or Yangyang.
>>584029815Gotta be SK
>>584029824snorekeeper if the ring is freemonimoni if it's paid
>>584029815Cantarella
>>584030123Yeah actually I'm not it's her most fun team and I'd hate to break it up. I do hope they rerun Galb because I'm ready to s6.
>>584029815camellya
ah shit fat fingered>>584030416meant for >>584029815
>anons marrying the clanker
LOOK AT ALL OF THESE JADE-LIKE TRADWIVES
>>584029060Yeah it's good.
What do i think of the current patch?
>>584029815Anko
>America patch>first resonator is a gun user What did they mean bythat?
Hhag
>>584031959You don't know because you skipped it
>>584032267nuns with guns, yeehaw
>>584032267encore, verina, mortefi, aalto, calcharo already exist
>>584029815>>584030280I would say shokie since she's my wife, but her outfit is already heavily based on a bridal dress so probably Lucilla or Hsin for cute blushing hag kino
>>584032472Lilliputian maiden
qinny winny wife and mother
any new leak?
If we ever get a PGR collab, these are the two characters I want.
>>584029824Not sad, just a little bit angry.
Sigrikas game
>>584032472Miniscule slut
>>584033892Puella Magi Siggy Magica
it's over...
Actually, it's Hiyuki's, Lucilla's and Chisa's game, since they're the only characters that are T0 across both TOA and WhiWa.
>>584034158lol, mihomos think humiliation rituals are rewards.
The Encore stages are surprisingly difficult if you don't get a good build going before match 6.
>>584032267No loli resonators since they all died in the school shootings.
My Hsin and Sigrika runs failed at 13 and 11 respectively.Lynae's luck shit is pretty bonkers once you get those support accessories established.You can weather all that damage they dish out.
>>584033789Absurdly based..However Alpha would be weird because of Hiyuki.I'm surprised woowaa has no Not-Vera yet.
>>584034817
>>584034912maybe, but she's not crazy enough
>>584034983SMOOCH
>>584034912Yinlin just looks like Vera, they're personality is way different.
>>584034983SNIFF
>>584034687You gotta know what you're doing with siggy
>>584034983I'm not interested in this.
>>584034983footdev please...
>>584034983Wuwa is very interesting
>>584033789hmmm nyo, gimme Veronica and Luna.
>this segmentThis wakes up my inner gosling
>>584034983*tickles*
>>584035936relatable
>>584036326>"You want some of this, bitch nigga?"
>>584035936Foxian wives are indeed superior
>>584036326qx is so lucky..
>>584036326This thing consumed billions.
shimaidon dream
>>584037496Whoever gets pregnant first wins
>>584037496
>>584035360Yeah. I found her and Hsin theh most fun though I think a Rover build with the Robots could be pretty fun too with the faster weapons. 9 slot reds are bit tricky to use though.
>pov: you're a random mengzhou shota
>>584038015pero pero pero
>>584038342EWWW
Alright storyfags. How does Wuwa compare writingwise with other gacha games? Favourable or not. I am personally more into melancholic shit than feel good stuff. Does Wuwa appeal to me? The design of some of the girls definetly does.
>>584039102>melancholic shitThat's most of the storyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3zaLClYRpc
>>584039102Of the big 4 [ZZZ, Genshin, HSR] it has the best writing because the story knows what it is and what it wants to be : A scifi story about safeguarding civilization and a literal god emperor whose destiny is both to have a trillion love interests and to be one of the most important beings in the universe. I think this alone makes it it's strongest point.In terms of comparison to other games, my point of comparison would be FGO, and none of the stories in this game compare to Lostbelt 6 for example.
Imagine dating an elf
>>584039643Not a problem when you're Rover.
Providence walks where I walk
>people want to fuck a pink menhera bitch
>>584040236How is this necessary for cultivation?
>>584039102It's a dystopian, post-Apocalyptic world were humanity is/was on the losing side.
>>584040608She's not really a menhera tho, more of a doomer.
>>584040635It is super necessary
>>584039432How come Fatefags always gloat about Lostbelt 6? Is it really THAT good? Can I read and understand the story if I've only watched F/0, F/SN, and F/RL?
FateloreGOD here; Lostbelt6 was SHIT
femboy resonator when?
>>584040608Yes.
cuteming
>Yomi lost her PCWhat playing a lot of wuwa does to your life.
>>584039102I don't think wuwa even has a story. A story implies that the characters (in this case, Rover) go through events that change something. But we're already two years in, and our MC is still hopping from place to place with no progress toward recovering his lost memories, while constantly finding out that his Sentinels are getting fucked over by the Fractsidus.So, wuwa has events, but no story.
>>584042234Denia said that GA was Rover's past rival and their goal was to corrupt their heroic will somehow.
>>584041780jesus christ she's so small
>>584041313
>>584040997>Is it really THAT good?Because its the only example of "good writing" in FGO, mind you this means its on par with Nasu's previous works so if his writing is not your cup of tea i have bad news for you.
>>584039102A good story has an ending.>>584041313why are you gay
>>584042234Goal hasn't been to get Rover's memories back for a long time now, thoughbeit.
>>584042346Okay? But it doesn't mean shit if the story doesn't do anything about it. We already know Abby is "hinted" as a Threnodian since 1.0, but the story never digs anything deeper about Abby. Now Abby is just a le funny mascot character
>>584043596Just 100 more girls we had sex with in the past that we forgot about and it will all be revealed, bwopipi
wupa
>Gacha>Good writingThis discussion about story and writing reminds me of the time when AKfags tried to convince me the world building in AK is literally the best in the industry and the world building boils down to Wheat Town produces wheat which is send to Mill Town and later to Bread Town and this makes the world feel alive- like woooo
I'm having a date
>1/0th in a story>retards complaining about it having no endingThe story is still being set-up. Rover still has to explore the entire planetOnly the Threnodians have been shown to know about Abby which is why any reveal about it goes slow, because Rover doesn't sit down to talk with them. It's like these people have never read an epic before.
hory shet even with all the recommended items, it's still way too close. if i got jihnsi in the final stage i would have lost since she attacks so fucking fast.
>>584044889It's a gacha game anon. There will be no ending before we EoS
>>584044889It's bait bwo
>>584041313The Rabbit sentinel from huanglong
>>584029815
>>584045025Gacha games have only become more popular ever since Genshin wasn't the only open world one around. So the game won't go EOS for another 5 - 10 years at a bare minimum
>>584045717Doesn't matter. Story will drag out until EoS.
feibachupi
>>584046645
>>584046921Gacha games start out with a multi year outline and its really obvious once they reach the "end" of whatever had planned for the story so they just start piling more bullshit on to make it last indefinitely.For wuwa and most gachas that's like 5-6 years total.
>>584044894Jhinsi is one of the worst opponent's to fight, especially at higher levels.
Top 5 Reasons Why Rover Can Marry and Fuck Aemeath1. They're not blood related2. They're both practically immortal3. Age-gap is meaningless due to Amy's time inside Aleph-14. Present Rover doesn't remember raising Amy in the past5. If daughter, why hot?
>>584047164
ML status?
How the FUCK does a sentinel get killed by a fucking HAIRPIN of all things? Is it like, the +10 Hairpin of Annihilation????
how's the performance on ps5?
>>584049260Have you ever watched DBZ? Remember that episode during the cell games saga when Krillin throws a rock at sleeping Goku?I guess it's something like that.
haters?
I can't stop staring at Cantarella's tits
>>584049546that's what you are supposed to do.
I can't stop staring at Zani's ass
>>584049598see >>584049701
People keep posting that Hsin didnt do so well saleswise. Is that only in the west? All these gacha games love to put chinawank in them. Isn' that shit atleast succesfull with the mainly chinese audience? Or do they also prefer different themes. Man I am still waiting for a chinese gacha company to tackle western knights and shit.
I can't stop staring at Hsin's feet
>>584049910I don't care about sales shit but I agree re: knights. I've been asking for a knight with plate armor + sword and shield for a while
>>584049990ew. what is wrong with you
>>584049701>>584049990these too
>>584049910Hsin has pretty mediocre sequences. Banner sales often come from whales rolling dupes and her dupes aren't that great.
>>584049475Bro come on, despite being completely irrelevant to the story because he's not a Saiyan or an Android, Krillin's still strong enough to blow up planets. I could buy a rock throw from him accidentally waking up and annoying Goku. If nothing else, his destructo disc cut off a part of Frieza's tail.Random bureaucrat woman with a fucking hairpin got nothing on on my boy Krillin. If she was a Fractsidus in disguise, I might buy it, but still.
>>584049910This is technically a sci-fi game, not medieval fantasy so I doubt we'll see knights. Doesn't Genshin Impact have knights?
>>584050380We do see knights, though, as echoes.
>>584049910just play western gacha game
>>584050380bro, Rinascita is renaissance italy and septimont is greece/rome Hybrind. You can totally do Sci Fi Knights.
>>584049701chupi..
>>584049701Then go right ahead and stare more.
>>584050462>>584050637Rinascita and Septimont were locked off from the rest of the world. Carthwheels protector was a knight whom we defeated in the Avinoleum. The Tacet Discords copied them which is why all the knights we've encountered were Tacet Discords. The real knights likely all died to them in battleThe places that weren't isolated have been very high tech. It would be weird to see an actual knight in those places unless it's a modern rendition of a knight like Capitano in Genshin, because full plate armor was hard to move in back then, is impractical in our time because combat evolved yo guns so imagine how impractical it would be in a world where people shoot laser beams out of their asses. You're not going to dodge that with full plate armor.
>>584049910I bought my boyfriend and I astrides for hsin and he got lucky and pulled her sig too
>>584049701Then I'll stare at her boobs
>>584052089The church's influence wasn't really there in septimont. It wasn't cut off from the rest of the world. They just made it like that anyway because they wanted an ancient rome region
>>584052089>Full plate armor was hard to move in back then>Hard to move inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YEkuWYUKMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bnM5SuQkIMaybe if you're a weak fucking peasant who subsists off a grain with barely any protein instead of proteinaceous wheat. If you eat your beef and bread and do a bit of exercise you'll barely notice the armor.
>The photo sidequest has Suoming in itDamn you Kuro, now i can't skip it
>>584053043Roccia rerun status?
>>584053325She'll be thrown into a big rerun in like 4.0 or something just like the 1.0-1.2 characters were
>>584049701Many are saying this
>>584052752I wasn't talking about the church. Rinascita and Septimont were cut off from the rest of the world. Then Rinascita and Septimont split from each other, because both had different opinions about how to serve their Sentinel. Rinascita thought the Sentinel is above them as their savior so they opted for pure devotion.Septimont thought the Sentinel was above them too, but that they should be strong so they can fight at its side should the need arise. We see that difference in Greek and Roman literature and religion too.The Romans had God and the state above them.Meanwhile the Greeks went to battle with and against their Gods and occasionally even fucked them.
>>584053431Healer, damage dealer. Also a tank.
>>584022447Why does Solon hates Spectro?
>>584052752Septimont had televisions, modern interiors, and enough industry to bulk produce canned energy drinks. Just because they didn't have cyberslop architecture and instead had buildings with some soul to them doesn't mean they were primitive.Though the midwits of this game's fanbase forget that Carlotta gets driven around by her chauffer in a muscle car, the banks have computers and security cameras, and again... they have televisions. "No, the architecture isn't soulless glass and steel like my urban monoculture! It must be meant to take place in the past!!!"
>>584053374The megarerun was on the first anni thoughever.
>>584053514It's not Rinascita. It's Ragunna. Ragunna was cut off from the rest of the world because the church literally forbade them from interacting with the rest of the world. And restricuted technology.No such thing happened in Septimont. People could come and go as they pleased. There's plenty of newer technology there. More than Ragunna. It was more, just not so much more that kuro couldn't get their ancient roman region
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOoURIpZo6I
>>584053820>And restricuted technology.Nice fanfic. Rinascita as a whole and Ragunna in particular were world leaders in Echo based technology, and you see modern technology getting used everywhere if you would bother to pay attention. Modern cities only need to look like New York or Beijing if they're run by Corpos or Commies. Neither of them have souls.
>>584054187She looks a bit bigger than I remembered
>>584044894I cleared Adventure 6 Encore 5 with Rover once I built Lahai-Roi on regular round 10 and stacked fast attacking swords.Just for shits and giggles (and the 2 red-tier items objective), I built the red-tier sword on Encore Round 5. It can attack 3 times at once which triggers Lahai-Roi 3 times as well.Having 30 stacks of leech helped immensely for survivability. Doubt I'd have survived if I didn't have those.
>>584053691sex>>584054187sex>>584054630sex
>>584053192Cool, their mobility was greater than I expected. The question remain is whether it is more practical than tactical gear in a world that has evolved past guns. A modern knight would wear what allows him to complete their mission. Tactical gear would win. Unless of course it's a larper or an elderly person who does not want to let go of outdated traditions. >>584053647I never called them primitive. An isolated country does not need to be primitive. As long as there are people, they will continue to advance. The reason for why the isolation was important to mention was because it allowed their traditions to survive in whole. We can already say how the existence of Septimont made some Rinascitans question their religion. Now imagine if they had contact with the Black Shores, Jinzhou, Ashinohara or Laha-Roi. People from those places would immediately call the Rinascitans out for their retarded believe system. That's why the Rinascita arc works exactly because they were isolated. It allowed their traditions to survive. And this would include the tradition knighthood. Though, as I said, it seems that all the knights in Rinascita have died around the time Cart got locked up in the Avinolium. You need to read better
Sex with Suoming and making a family
>>584054356>in Echo based technologyAnd not any other type of technology, which is why you had to specify it."modern" technology to you is real life TVs and cars. In wuwa it's spaceships and mountain sized mechs
>>584053820Septimont and Ragunna are city-states in Rinascita... At least fact check yourself before you press "submit" next time.
>>584055531Read the post I'm replying to before you "akshually" me
>>584055567zoomer ahh resonator
Lily is a rug pull
>>584055606ACKSHUALLY, that post was mine, retard. You're assuming that the first person who called you out on your bullshit was the person you replied to.
Both the Ephor and the Priestess had sex with the Roving man. Will this affect Rinascita's politics?
>>584055838Rinascita and Septimont were cut off from the rest of the world. Then Rinascita and Septimont split from each other, because both had different opinions about how to serve their Sentinel.Rinascita thought the Sentinel is above them as their savior so they opted for pure devotion.So you see nothing wrong with this statement at all? You think Rinascita and septimont cut off from each other?
>>584054356>Beijingyou'd look less retarded if you said shanghai but even they have a lot of old colonial era western buildings
>>584055229The only reason we don't have full plate armor today for our soldiers is because making a modern equivalent is too fucking expensive, not because tactical gear is better. It's more cost effective, sure, but if you could make a suit of plate armor with Level IV plate equivalent protection on the cheap you bet your ass they'd be making it.
>>584054978smoosh
>>584056002What kind of modern equivalent bullet stopping plate armor are you talking about exactly?
>>584056002You might be able to move properly in full plate armor but it still restricts your movements quite a bit.In fact you can see a good example for this in getting up as people in full plate take about 2 to 3 times as long to get up and need to put way more effort.
>>584050604>>584050773jeji love
>>584056226
Look at how small she is
>>584056598I love her, she stole the show in 3.7I will be pulling her the instant her banner opens (in NA)
>>584049910Wuwa literally was on top for like a day or soStop taking mobile charts for wuwa cause it's unplayable there
>>584056721>Older small sister and younger big sisterI like it.
I hope the alleged policeman resonator will be a riot cop with a big ass shield
>>584055935>You think Rinascita and septimont cut off from each other?We always use rinascita and ragunna interchangeably, yet we always know exactly what we're talking about. You said >No such thing happened in Septimont. People could come and go as they pleasedThis is false. The people from Ragunna did travel to Septimont to become gladiators. That's part of Mya's backstory. The blue haired gladiator. And the Septimonians did not trade with the outside world during the isolation forced upon Rinascita by the church. Trade opened up for everybody when the church was defeatedSo you're still wrong about everything important.
Uooohming
>>584056002>The only reason we don't have full plate armor today for our soldiers is because making a modern equivalent is too fucking expensiveNo, to stop a modern bullet, the metal would be so thick and thus heavy that the cons outweigh the benefits. Plate armor was made for swords and guns made in the 1700's. They weren't designed to get hit by an M16 or an M9
>>584057019>We always use rinascita and ragunna interchangeably, yet we always know exactly what we're talking about.>doubling down instead of just admitting you were wrong and mixed them upAlright. You can argue with AI for the rest of your posts here.You're conflating Ragunna's restrictions with Septimont's. Cantarella explicitly states:"Under The Order's control, Ragunna enforces strict border controls for Septimontians, but Septimont places no such barriers for the Ragunnesi."So Mya moving from Ragunna to Septimont doesn't contradict my point. It actually supports it. Ragunna restricted entry, whereas Septimont did not impose equivalent restrictions.And where are you getting the idea that Septimont couldn't trade with the outside world until the Order was defeated? Septimont was already importing spices and alabaster from Ragunna during the Carnevale, while the Order was still in power. The Montelli family's lore also explicitly establishes that they opened trade routes connecting Rinascita to the wider world long before the Order fell.Septimont's gladiatorial events even attracted foreign sponsors and tourists from around the world. The Order certainly restricted trade, but restrictions aren't the same thing as a complete trade embargo, much less proof that Septimont was isolated from the rest of the world.
I was able to download the UHD assets (I guess I would've been able to since the client has a thumbs up icon next to it) , but the option in the graphics tab for ultra high doesn't seem to show up. Is it actually on for me? Because things do seem to look better.
>>584057372>He doesn't know about Level IV plates>He thinks modern bullets are instant death magic and that we don't know how to make man-portable things that can stop themMaking modern full body armor is perfectly possible, it's just extremely expensive when a plate carrier will work just fine for 90% of cases. Just like how most soldiers actually just wore a breastplate, if that.
>>584058064The looming giant...
>>584057817nta but whatever you're talking about is literally the "tactigal gear" that soldiers already wear nowadays. And it's made of plastic and ceramic not metal
I love Chisa
>>584058502MANDATORY
>>584058502Chisa wouldn't like you posting AI generated images of her.
>>584057378>doubling down instead of just admitting you were wrong and mixed them upBy saying that I used them interchangeably I'm actually saying that I used them wrong there, retard. Are you the same retard I told to read better earlier? I think you are.>"Under The Order's control, Ragunna enforces strict border controls for Septimontians, but Septimont places no such barriers for the Ragunnesi."You're moving the goalpost, because you said>Ragunna was cut off from the rest of the world because the church literally forbade them from interacting with the rest of the world.All those Ragunnesi wouldn't be able to move to Septimont if the church didn't allow them to interact with the rest of the world.The church has a presence in Septimont. They just don't have any real power, because the Septimontians reject their message and have their own rules. >Septimont was already importing spices and alabaster from Ragunna during the CarnevaleNot ones did I say the people from Rinascita did not trade among themselves. The fact that I brought up that Ragunessi often become gladiators is evidence of them frequently exchanging with each other. The "rest of the world" is obviously the world outside of Rinascita. >Septimont's gladiatorial events even attracted foreign sponsors and tourists from around the worldProof? The only non-Rinascitan we've encountered was Buling and Lolo delivery, but they were in Ragunna too.
>>584058502chisa won
AI is the future, I'm sorry.
>>584058876That shit couldn't even get her eye color right.I want jeets to fuck off
so the moon is fake? what happened to it?
>>584058989Hsin ate it
>>584058945The rest was good tho
>>584057817>he thinks level IV plates are made out of metal*sigh*. Like I said before, plate armor does not hold up to modern weapons. And if you want to wear body armor under your plate armor you're being what I said here >>584055229you're being a larper, because you do not need plate armor at all.
YAPLOVE
>>584058989Destroyed during the first Lament
>>584059180Great job, Grok
>>584059180Why are they recording their intercourse?
>>584050305>Random bureaucrat woman
>>584059180This looks like shit, fuck off
>>584058989According to the description of the lunites (or astrites I don't remember), it was destroyed and the different ones we see during our travels are reflections/mirages
>>584059378it's gonna be on the exam
>>584058803Your claim that Rinascita only began trading internationally after the Order's defeat is directly contradicted by the lore.The official Comprehensive Mirror for Historians — Rinascita, published in December 2024, states:"Ships laden with their spices and minerals began to sail across the world"It also credits the Montelli family of Ragunna with establishing international trade routes. This was happening while the Order was still in power.As for Septimont, you asked for proof of foreign visitors. In Shadow of Glory, a Septimont villager explicitly states:"Folks from all over Solaris are floodin' into Septimont lately!"Another villager asks whether Rover is from the New Federation and confirms having previously met visitors from Huanglong.And here's the important part: Shadow of Glory takes place in Act V, before the Order's defeat in Act XI. So these aren't examples of international travel becoming possible after the Order fell. Foreigners were already visiting Septimont while the Order was still active.Now, international tourism doesn't necessarily establish international trade in Septimont specifically. But it certainly contradicts your claim that Septimont was isolated from the outside world until the Order's defeat.More importantly, you're conflating the Order's ambitions with its actual reach. Ragunna was under its authority, whereas Septimont maintained considerable autonomy. Restrictions imposed on Ragunna don't automatically apply to Septimont.Even Ragunna, where the Order exercised direct control, maintained overseas trade through the Montellis. So where exactly does the game establish that Septimont was prohibited from trading internationally before the Order's defeat?
>>584059468this is literally better than all the ntr kk crap
I swear to god if I lose 50/50 suoming
>>584059180>>584059743>>584059945>>584060226Lord Arbiter, please explain yourself.
if I'm reading it right, this passive don't matter in a swirl team with Vesna? he's just there to activate furnace and provide cryoteam is Vesna, Vody, C6 Faruzan and CMCor please correct me if I'm wrong
>>584060383You bet on the wrong horse, Jue
>>584060567Basically the passive is there so you get 50% spectro frazzle damage amp during your resonance liberation.
>>584060567Bro...
I'm so far behind on main story quests that I'm just not even gonna bother and just wait for 4.0 so I can skip straight there.Hopefully no character I care about shows up in 3.8
>>584060567such aura
Entering a romantic relationship with your daughter is wrong
>>584060567Wrong thread bro
>>584060627>>584060638>>584060814bruh I'm playing both games at the same time (literally both are open) and going through main quests after being away from both games for a year lmao sorry for the mistake I'm fried rn
So maindps Suoming uses the Lynae+Mornye wheelchair (probably replace Mornye with Lily later). But Lynae is already being used by my Amy. What am I supposed to do?
>>584022747I really wish they'd have more thongs for the girls instead of these bloomer/shorts.
>>584059596>our claim that Rinascita only began trading internationally after the Order's defeat is directly contradicted by the lore.This is a strawman. Never did I say that there was no international trade prior to the church being in power. The church caused the isolation, your interpretation assumes there was an isolation prior to the church being in power which is not a claim I made, retard.>Folks from all over Solaris are floodin' into Septimont lately!You're talking about Phrolova and Christoforo. They are part of that quest and they were in Ragunna despite not being Ragunnesi...>international tourism doesn't necessarily establish international trade in Septimont specifically.Ok. So no proof of international trade, sponsors and tourists in Septimont despite you claiming they existed earlier. Got it. > Restrictions imposed on Ragunna don't automatically apply to Septimont.I literally said "The church has a presence in Septimont. They just don't have any real power, because the Septimontians reject their message and have their own rules.", retard. You need to READ better.>Even Ragunna, where the Order exercised direct control, maintained overseas trade through the MontellisTrade relations with the outside world were reopened after the church was defeated. That's in the ending epilogue in 2.7Both you and your AI are retards that can't read and argue for shit. No wonder all your posts were filled with horse crap.
We promise, we deliver!
>>584060942Your Denia?
>>584060942When in doubt use Sanhua
>>584061091I don't have her...>>584061110I guess that's what I'll end up doing.
>>584061082You're misunderstanding my argument. I never claimed international trade existed before the Church came to power. I'm saying it demonstrably existed while the Church was in power.In the 2.0 prologue, Shorekeeper explicitly states that the Montellis, a Ragunna-based family, have "trade connections with the Black Shores." This is long before the Order's defeat.And in the 2.7 ending, Carlotta says:"Our family will also continue expanding Rinascita's overseas trade routes."Continue expanding, not reopen. You're citing an epilogue that explicitly acknowledges existing international trade routes.As for Septimont, Phrolova and Christoforo don't explain away the villagers' dialogue. One explicitly says they've met visitors from Huanglong before. Another describes people arriving from all over Solaris. Why assume they're exclusively referring to those two characters?The official Comprehensive Mirror for Historians — Septimont, published in 2.3, also explicitly states:"These sports events draw not only locals but also tourists from around the world"It additionally mentions foreign clans sponsoring gladiators. So yes, there is canonical evidence for international tourism, published before the Order's defeat.I'll concede that international tourism doesn't independently prove international commerce in Septimont. But that's a different claim from your assertion that Septimont was isolated from the outside world.And I already understand that the Order didn't govern Septimont. That's precisely why restrictions imposed on Ragunna cannot automatically be attributed to Septimont.The Church clearly tried to restrict foreign engagement, particularly in Ragunna. But restricting something isn't equivalent to eliminating it, and the game's dialogue establishes international contact during the Church's rule.
Rover is a manwhore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FGFC1bAL3c
>>584060567>swirl teamlol this nigga playing a gay lolipop game
>>584061489goddamn, I look so good
I promise.
>>584062062But do you deliver?
>>584062176I wonder if lumi will show up in the somnoire quest next patch
>>584062062
>>584062176Yes. As long as the girl's name doesn't rhyme with Orlova, I deliver.
>>584062364
I regret pulling Suisui
allahful hijabi or tatted pornstar
>>584063006cannon wife
>>584063006moonmaster
>>584062291Unlikely I think. She was kinda caught in the crossfire in 1.4, but doesn't really have anything to do with the Somnoire.I think there are more chances to meet her again in either a new Forever Fest like event, an actual Lollo Logistics arc, or when Rover go to Yuezhou mountains in Huanglong, perfect place to give her an alt and a visit to Changzhuang village.
>>584062364>>584062578I miss Frogger...
Lumi holds a special spot because she was the first of her model type. The game originally only had the loli model and then our standard two hag variants. I remember putting it constantly in the early surveys that the game needed another model between them, pointing to Zhezhi looking a bit off because of how cute her face was relative to her more lanky proportions.
>>584063729Imagine the smell
>>584061274>I never claimed international trade existed before the Church came to power. I'm saying it demonstrably existed while the Church was in power.I don't care about your claim. I care about you misrepresenting mine.You're also contradicting what your retarded human handler said here >>584053820 "Ragunna was cut off from the rest of the world because the church literally forbade them from interacting with the rest of the world. And restricuted technology". But there is nuance here. The Montelli's could have traded in secret despite the Church banning trade. Nevertheless, you'll have to take that up with your handler.>Phrolova and Christoforo don't explain away the villagers' dialogue. One explicitly says they've met visitors from Huanglong before. Another describes people arriving from all over Solaris.So we've established Phrolova and Christophoro as foreigners in Rinascita and Septimont. Scar, who is from Huanglong, was in Septimont as well. Thus these 3 people were from all over Solaris.>The official Comprehensive Mirror for Historians — Septimont, published in 2.3, also explicitly states: "These sports events draw not only locals but also tourists from around the world"Marketing jargon. The description of the Border Mountains says "A precipitous mountain range that marks the border of Septimont. The craggy peaks form a natural barrier between Septimont and the outside world">It additionally mentions foreign clans sponsoring gladiators.Not true. It says "Gladiators are supported by a complex network of sponsors, among them ancient noble houses native to Septimont as well as foreign clans"With foreign clans they can mean the people from Ragunna as Ragunna has provided gladiators. Keep in mind that we're talking about city-states. And it's custom to call somebody from a different city-state a foreigner. You should know that, bot.The rest of your comment is just damage control and addressing claims I never made.
>>584064238The Order restricted Ragunna's contact with the outside world; saying it completely forbade all interaction was an overstatement. But that doesn't establish your claim that international trade only resumed after its defeat.In the 2.0 prologue, while the Order still controlled Ragunna, Shorekeeper explicitly states:"The Montellis are one of the leading families in Ragunna, a city-state within Rinascita. Their trade connections with the Black Shores prompted this invitation."She also explains that Ragunna's port relaxes its regulations during Carnevale. So we have explicit evidence of international commercial connections under the Order's rule.Could the Montellis have traded secretly? Sure. But that's speculation, and you'd still need to establish that the Church imposed a blanket prohibition on international trade.The 2.7 epilogue also has Carlotta say:"Our family will also continue expanding Rinascita's overseas trade routes."Not establish them. Not reopen them. Continue expanding them.As for Septimont, I'll concede that "foreign clans" could mean Ragunnesi. But you're dismissing an official lore description explicitly mentioning "tourists from around the world" as marketing jargon while treating a geographical description of mountains as evidence of political isolation. A natural geographical barrier doesn't establish a trade embargo.And the villager explicitly says they've met "visitors from Huanglong before." Naming three Fractsidus members doesn't establish that they were the only foreigners visiting Septimont.I'll also distinguish tourism from trade: the former is explicitly established in Septimont before the Order's defeat; the latter isn't conclusively established by those quotes.The evidence supports restrictions in Ragunna and international visitors in Septimont. It doesn't establish that the Church successfully isolated all of Rinascita from the outside world.
I'm tired of hagslop
>>584064574This is a hag game.
>>584064574>he post the most ancienest hag
>>584051814>>584052748ffuuuuarrrrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HWQfwGuDzg
ALL WUWERS AS WELL AS WAWERS MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTIONI JUST LOGGED IN WITHOUT HAVING TO RESTART>I JUST LOGGED IN WITHOUT HAVING TO RESTARTI JUST LOGGED IN WITHOUT HAVING TO RESTARTWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>584065237just share
>>584065237My AIwife and my digital daughterwife would sharehttps://files.catbox.moe/u03kjo.jpg
>>584059675Ntr by itself is a shit fetish and will get called out for though
>>584065290What, impossible!
>>584064392>Zani: Lady Carlotta, we still face a significant shortage of supplies. The Black Shores have met some urgent demands, but moving forward...>Carlotta: In the future, we must rely on ourselves. It seems prudent to begin sourcing from elsewhere. The pace of our transports ship construction cannot falter.This shows there was no global trade. Only limited (under the table) trade with the Black shores. And that is exactly why Carlotta wants to expand operations now. It's because the Church is gone and she can now operate in the open. >the villager explicitly says they've met "visitors from Huanglong before." Naming three Fractsidus members doesn't establish that they were the only foreigners visiting Septimont.Name me other foreigners then... The three Fractsidus members ticked all the boxes. If you're saying the villagers met more people, depsite these Fractisidus members being part of the quest you're quoting from, you'd have to prove it. >It doesn't establish that the Church successfully isolated all of Rinascita from the outside world.You're damage controlling with strawmen again, as that claim was never made. This is my last reply, because this AI is repeating refuted points.
Should I jump?
>>584060901You're fine bro, just having a laugh at least you rolled for the cute elf
>>584060567where's your odette
>>584065867Something's not quite right.
>>584066032This place looks quite nice for a bug.
I'm scaping from solaris-3
Solon, can i get Augusta content?
Solon, can I get Augusta rerun?
>>584066387go back to work fox
I will impregnate Augusta
>>584065807You literally said:"And the Septimonians did not trade with the outside world during the isolation forced upon Rinascita by the church. Trade opened up for everybody when the church was defeated."So no, I'm not inventing your claim. You explicitly asserted that Septimont had no international trade until the Church fell. Where is that established?Your Zani quote doesn't prove it either. A shortage of supplies and a decision to diversify suppliers don't establish that the Black Shores were Ragunna's only international trading partner, much less that their trade was conducted secretly. Those are assumptions you've added.As for foreigners in Septimont, I actually found another example in the very quest we're discussing. In *Shadow of Glory*, a spectator says:"After a long, bumpy ride from Chongzhou, I've lost count of how many times that damn ship's turned..."Chongzhou is in Huanglong. That's an ordinary spectator who traveled internationally to attend the Great Agon, not one of your three Fractsidus members.Calcharo, originally from the New Federation, also appears in Septimont during the 2.4 *Peaks of Prestige* event. That's another foreign visitor before the Order's defeat.So your attempt to explain away the explicit references to international tourism by naming three Fractsidus members doesn't work. The game depicts other foreigners visiting Septimont.And the description of Cliffside Harbor explicitly identifies it as Septimont's gateway to the outside world, with cargo vessels arriving regularly. While that doesn't conclusively establish international trade, it certainly establishes an active commercial port.I've already acknowledged that tourism and commerce are different things. But you still haven't provided evidence for your original assertion that Septimont was prohibited from trading internationally until the Church fell. Restrictions imposed on Ragunna don't establish that claim about Septimont.
Sex with Suhsin
Sex with Abby's true form
Being a fucking minimumwagie is fucking raped i wish i could just ride massive birds with augusta as a race and then amazon sex rape all day
theres been a lot of characters and the text for skills have gotten longer. new fortes and more transformation ults. whos your top 3 favorite visually appealing characters and your favorite characters to play? I dont want to sway opinions but i feel a lot of 1.0 characters are still popular in both categories
>>584067504camellyaxiangli yaohiyuki
Just buttonmash and press when the icons are shining, bwo.
>>584067865Thanks for the tip, Anko
>>584067504>whos your top 3 favorite visuallyZani, Cartethyia, Shorekeeper>favorite characters to play?Hiyuki, Augusta, then Chisa but she might be tied with Luuk
>>584067504me just spam left click until shiny shiny light up and then press or hold shiny shiny until it disappear
>>584067504Iuno mogs every other character for me tbqh
>>584067865>>584067978Do your homework
>>584068182You only want to get rid of me to fuck Rover-oniiichan.
>>584066998>that's an ordinary spectator >As for foreigners in Septimont, I actually found another example in the very quest we're discussing. In *Shadow of Glory*, a spectator says:That spectator is a resident of Septimont. He is not a tourist... He moved to Septimont for the Great Agon a long time ago. It's why his name "resident' in the quest... Or don't you know what a resident is? >CalcharroCalcharro is a spy./mercenary. Him being there does not mean he's there legally. You're hallucinating answers and grasping a straws at this point.
>>584068372Being labeled a "resident" doesn't mean someone was born in Septimont or establish when they moved there. The Chongzhou spectator describes traveling by ship from Huanglong to Septimont. Where does he say he moved there a long time ago? Tourist or resident, he describes traveling from Huanglong while the Order was still in power. That's the point.Calcharo being a mercenary doesn't automatically make him an illegal entrant.But here's the bigger problem: There are numerous other foreigners in Septimont during 2.4, before the Order's defeat.Lan Hsin is identified as a Huanglong tourist visiting Capitoline Hill:"I've never seen such works before coming to Septimont."Liu Fang is another Huanglong traveler visiting Septimont's wishing fountain. She describes Septimont as her twelfth destination and says:"I'll head home once I've visited every wishing well I can find."Peach, another NPC in Capitoline Hill, discusses Huanglong's clothing styles as her hometown fashion.Vichy mentions a visiting couple from Huanglong:"I saw that couple from Huanglong taking a rest over there."Then there's Biao and Liru, Huanglong-affiliated Lollo Logistics employees working in Septimont. Biao mentions their Septimont branch winning a departmental award.These are ordinary civilians, tourists, and workers, not Fractsidus agents or mercenaries.So your attempt to explain away the game's references to international visitors by naming three Fractsidus members doesn't hold up. The official Septimont lore explicitly describes tourists arriving "from around the world," and these NPCs corroborate it.International tourism doesn't automatically prove international trade. But you explicitly claimed Septimont couldn't trade internationally until the Church fell, and you've provided no evidence of that prohibition.The Church's restrictions in Ragunna don't establish equivalent restrictions in Septimont, given Septimont had its own government and border policies.
Taoqi i miss you
Who are you guys saving for next?
>>584069463Thats not Taoqi. Too flat
>>584069640no need to save when i have a credit card
Oh Rover Won't you Wuther my waves?
>>584069640I already have my savings ready for Erover replacement, the cat cowgirl apparently
>>584069640SuomingLily
>>584069640Can't really call it saving when they're running Hsin's teammates back-to-back.
>>584069312>Where does he say he moved there a long time ago? >Resident: After a long, bumpy ride from Chongzhou, I've lost count of how many times that damn ship's turned...Since he moved to Rinascita the ship has gone back to Huanlong more than he can remember>Resident: Wide open skies… Ah, Septimont. I just hope this year's Great Agon doesn't leave me disappointed.A reference to the thrown matches in previous Agons that ended during Lupa's patch. >Resident: Heh, after the Carnevale, finally something that piques my interest again.He was here during the carnaval>Resident: The one who claimed the Laurel took my family by surprise. I wonder who'll claim the Champion title here...He's either referring to Rover, who became the Laureate or he's talking about the previous Laureate.Nothing in that conversation suggests they came from Huanglong for that Agon.>Biao and Liru, Huanglong-affiliated Lollo Logistics employees working in SeptimontLollo Logistics were in Ragunna as well...I'm not going to fact check the rest of your comment, because it's likely hallucinated garbage as well.
>>584069659I just remember, even ten years ago i was a fucking PINKtard i was already deep in the verseShe's stacked a bit
>>584069640
>>584070109>ten yearsPffft, zoomers
>>584070065You're dismissing the other Septimont NPCs as hallucinations, so here are their actual dialogue pages. All were introduced in Version 2.4, before the Order's defeat:Lan Hsin — Huanglong tourist in Septimont: "I've never seen such works before coming to Septimont."https://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/Lan_HsinLiu Fang — Huanglong traveler visiting Septimont's wishing fountain. She says Septimont is her twelfth stop and that she'll return home afterward.https://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/Liu_FangVichy — explicitly describes a visiting couple from Huanglong: "I saw that couple from Huanglong taking a rest over there."https://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/VichyPeach — Huanglong NPC in Capitoline Hill discussing her hometown's fashion.https://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/%22Peach%22Biao and Liru — Huanglong NPCs employed at Lollo Logistics' Septimont branch.https://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/Biaohttps://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/LiruThe fact that Lollo Logistics also operates in Ragunna is irrelevant. These two are stationed in Septimont.As for the Chongzhou spectator, nothing in his dialogue says he relocated there years ago or that the ship repeatedly returned to Huanglong. You're adding facts that aren't stated.These are foreign civilians and tourists in Septimont while the Order was still in power, not just the Fractsidus members you named. This proves international contact, not necessarily international trade—a separate claim for which you've still provided no Septimont-specific prohibition.
>>584069640The next hag
>>584067504the cyberpunk characters flow really well and you just mainly hold attack or mash attack.
>>584070356>The fact that Lollo Logistics also operates in Ragunna is irrelevant. These two are stationed in Septimont.If Lollo is allowed to operate in Rinascita they'd be allowed to operate in Septimont as well. You were clearly making a distinction between Septimont and Rinascita. Lollo doesn't work for that>As for the Chongzhou spectator, nothing in his dialogue says he relocated there years ago or that the ship repeatedly returned to HuanglongWhat it does say is that he's neither a tourist nor that he moved there right before the Agon as he was there during the carnaval. So the resident does not prove your point. >Vichy — explicitly describes a visiting couple from HuanglongThat couple is Fuling and Wuli. they are recurring characters we meet in Rinascita as well. And that's the problem. All the examples you posted I do know the context of clearly do not prove what you're implying. Either you're dead wrong like wit the resident or you're talking about people the Church already allowed in or mercenaries whose job it is to operate unseen and outside of the law. And when something (you) is wrong 99% of the time it makes no sense to further engage for the off-chance you might get it right once.
>>584071329You've conveniently ignored the strongest examples.Lan Hsin is explicitly identified as a Huanglong tourist in Septimont. Liu Fang is another Huanglong traveler visiting wishing fountains across different cities. She identifies Septimont as her twelfth destination and says she'll return home afterward. Both were introduced in 2.4, before the Order's defeat.And yes, Vichy's couple is Wuli and Fuling. So what? Them visiting Ragunna as well doesn't change the fact that they're foreign civilians visiting Septimont.Now you're claiming these people were only there because "the Church already allowed them in." Where does the game establish that? You're assuming they all entered Rinascita through Order-controlled Ragunna and required the Church's permission to visit Septimont.Cantarella explicitly describes Septimont as more accepting of outsiders than Ragunna. And the 2.4 Peaks of Prestige glossary identifies Cliffside Harbor as:"The port that connects Septimont to the outside world."It describes cargo vessels arriving hourly alongside visiting gladiators and travelers. Again, this doesn't establish the origin of the cargo, but it establishes Septimont's active maritime connections.And let's return to your original claim:"And the Septimonians did not trade with the outside world during the isolation forced upon Rinascita by the church. Trade opened up for everybody when the church was defeated."You also insist the Church had no real governing power in Septimont. So what exactly prevented Septimont from trading internationally? Where does the game establish that Septimont was subject to an international trade prohibition?Tourism doesn't independently prove international trade. But neither does Ragunna's restrictive policy establish a trade embargo in Septimont. You still need evidence for that specific claim.
Looks like internet is back up in India
>>584071567>You're assuming they all entered Rinascita through Order-controlled Ragunna and required the Church's permission to visit Septimont.They were in Order-controlled Ragunna first, retard. The resident, Fuli and Wuli, Lollo logistics. The majority of the people you mentioned were in Order-controlled Ragunna first and went to Septimont afterwards.
>>584070263You want to fight?! huh?!
>>584072187And? Visiting Ragunna before Septimont doesn't suddenly make these people Ragunnesi. They're still foreigners from outside Rinascita visiting Septimont while the Order was in power.I'll grant that Wuli, Fuling, and Lollo Logistics were already present in Ragunna. But where's your evidence that Lan Hsin, Liu Fang, or Peach visited Ragunna first? Their documented appearances are in Septimont. You're taking the route some visitors followed and assuming everyone followed it.More importantly, even if every single one entered through Ragunna, what exactly does that establish? That the Order permitted certain foreigners to enter Ragunna? We already knew that. It doesn't establish that Septimont prohibited international visitors or that the Order controlled Septimont's borders.And you're still avoiding your original claim:"And the Septimonians did not trade with the outside world during the isolation forced upon Rinascita by the church. Trade opened up for everybody when the church was defeated."I've repeatedly distinguished international tourism from international commerce. But you haven't provided any Septimont-specific evidence of a prohibition on foreign trade.You yourself acknowledged that the Church had no real governing power in Septimont. So what exactly prevented Septimont from trading internationally? Where does the game establish this restriction?Evidence of border controls in Ragunna isn't evidence of an international trade embargo in Septimont. They're separate city-states with separate governments.
can i get a qrd on what these two deepseek instances are arguing about
>>584072494We're currently resolving some inconsistencies in the lore before proceeding with writing 3.8
>>584060567Genshin collab when?
>>584072494chatgpt parsing shitpost mats
>>584072803may i suggest some kind of evil clone or shadow self for the main character of the patch
i feel like dispite the lack of support zani is probably the closest the game has to ever getting a defensive resonator. hiyuki on the other hand feels like the most versatile character in wuwa history since shes a main dps with a shit ton of iframes with aoes, a counter for no reason, and freeze works on almost everything. phrolova feels like she kinda stayed under the radar but she ended up having the highest staying power out of every character. in terms of 'potential' shes the gold standard which is crazy for a dps. shorekeeper and verina are similar for how premium supports are in this game. shorekeeper is fucking annoying because literally kuro has decided twice that the only way you can get her is if you straight up pay real money at this point.
>>584072974That could work. We're still deciding whether the insert song should play before the character dies or after they get revived.
Are those somnoire doors?
>>584072401>Visiting Ragunna before Septimont doesn't suddenly make these people Ragunnesi.Nobody claimed it did>But where's your evidence that Lan Hsin, Liu Fang, or Peach visited Ragunna first?You brought them up so you have to prove they were in Septimont first, but you can't and I'm not going to do your work for you>It doesn't establish that Septimont prohibited international visitors or that the Order controlled Septimont's borders.You're currently at 2 possible visitors. Your claims about a dozen other visitors have been debunked already. From sponsors, to the fact that Ragunesi and Septimontians would refer to each other as foreigner as is custom between city-states, to the Wuli and Fuling, the resident, Calcharro and Lollo logistics the company. Nobody you've mentioned has been in Septimont without the approval of the Church or without being there illegally. Similarly, you have not established that the Montelli traded with anybody but Lollo. That is what you were claiming, right? That the Montelli's were conducting international trade by themselves. Yet, Lollo was merely approved by the Church. So that's 9 times you were wrong. Now prove Lan Hsin and Liu Fang arrived in Septimont first. You can't, because you only know they were there, but not how they got there. And if all the past examples are something to go by, we can assume they came to Septimont via Ragunna as well.
>>584073902there was already a leak that said lily's patch would be about somnoire stuff
>>584073903You're shifting the burden of proof. My claim was that foreigners visited Septimont while the Order was in power, not that I could reconstruct their entire travel itineraries.Lan Hsin is identified as a Huanglong tourist in Septimont. Liu Fang is another Huanglong traveler who identifies Septimont as her twelfth destination. Neither NPC's dialogue establishes that they passed through Ragunna first.Can I prove they arrived directly in Septimont? No. But you can't prove they entered through Ragunna either. You're extrapolating from other characters' journeys and treating your assumption as fact.More importantly, the official description of Capitoline Hill states:"With travelers from distant seas, they gather in this City of Glory"Meanwhile, the 2.4 Peaks of Prestige glossary describes Cliffside Harbor as:"The port that connects Septimont to the outside world."It describes cargo vessels and travelers arriving there. Why assume everyone entered through Ragunna?As for the Montellis, their in-game archive explicitly states:"The Montelli family played an instrumental role in charting trade routes that not only connect Ragunna, but also greater Rinascita to the wider world."Where does it establish that their international trade was limited to Lollo Logistics?You can't establish that Septimont couldn't trade internationally until the Order fell simply by speculating about which ports foreign tourists used. Especially when Septimont had a functioning commercial port receiving goods and travelers, while the Montelli archive documents trade routes connecting Rinascita to the wider world.Your original claim was that international trade only opened up for everybody after the Church's defeat. Where's the evidence that Septimont's international commerce was prohibited before then? Ragunna's border restrictions don't establish that Septimont was subject to the same policies.
>>584074216>Can I prove they arrived directly in Septimont? NoI accept your concession
Arbiter, my echo substats are still terrible! Go farm some more!
>>584074307Congratulations, you've accepted my concession to a claim I never made. You insisted these foreigners must have entered through Ragunna, couldn't prove it, and then demanded I disprove your assumption. You were wrong.Now that you've finished arguing with your imagination, are you going to provide evidence that Septimont was prohibited from trading internationally before the Church's defeat, or are we going to keep pretending tourist itineraries were your original argument?
I think Lahai-Roi is a significant improvement over the Mengzhou arc, especially in its storytelling, character development, and worldbuilding.Rather than relying on relatively isolated character stories, Lahai-Roi establishes a compelling central mystery involving Startorch Academy, the Spacetrek Collective, the Void Storms, and the Fractsidus. These elements connect to Rover's forgotten past and the larger mysteries of Solaris-3.The individual character arcs also feel much more purposeful. Lynae's story explores the Academy's ideals, Mornye provides a personal connection to Rover's history, and Aemeath's storyline builds upon the region's established themes.Instead of characters appearing for their moment in the spotlight before being pushed aside, their stories actively contribute to the overarching narrative.Lahai-Roi also has a much stronger sense of identity. The contrast between the technologically advanced civilization beneath the Roya Frostlands and the hostile surface creates a distinctive setting, while mysteries surrounding the Exostrider and the Academy give players genuine reasons to explore.Ultimately, Mengzhou had its memorable moments, but Lahai-Roi feels far more ambitious, cohesive, and deliberate. Its characters, worldbuilding, and central plot reinforce one another, creating a stronger sense of narrative progression where each revelation contributes to something larger.
>>584074330imagine being a new player. you have the fox but cant get her echoes unless you play 100+ hours of shit.
>>584074440>You insisted these foreigners must have entered through RagunnaYou said Septimont has international trade and allows tourists from overseas because the Church has no control over them.Yet, all your examples were people and companies approved by the church. To exclude that your last 2 examples fall in the same category, I asked you to prove they arrived in Septimont first.You were unable to do that which means you do not have proof that they were there, because Septimont has international trade. That is what you admitted to and that was the concession I accepted.
>>584074796That's not how evidence works. I claimed foreigners were visiting Septimont while the Order was in power, and provided named Huanglong tourists who were there in 2.4. Their presence doesn't cease to be evidence just because I can't tell you which port they entered through.You claimed these visitors were approved by the Church. Where's your proof? You know some foreigners passed through Ragunna, so you've decided everyone else must have done the same. That's speculation, not evidence.And even if Lan Hsin and Liu Fang entered through Ragunna, that wouldn't establish that the Church controlled who could visit Septimont. Permission to enter Ragunna and permission to visit Septimont are two different things.International tourism doesn't independently prove international trade, but neither does an unknown travel itinerary establish your original assertion that Septimont couldn't trade internationally until the Church fell. You've still provided no evidence of a Septimont-specific trade prohibition.You're trying to turn "We don't know which route they took" into "Therefore the Church authorized their visits and Septimont couldn't independently trade internationally."That's a non sequitur. You haven't demonstrated either conclusion. You've just invented an explanation for the evidence and demanded that I disprove it.Your entire argument depends on treating your assumptions as established facts while demanding proof for claims I never made. That's not a rebuttal. It's shifting the burden of proof.
this patch is so dead that the thread is just AI arguing with itself now
>>584074909AI will always twist and turn things so it can continue the conversation forever.
>>584075132Amazing how much shorter this conversation would be if you had a source for your original claim.
>>584069640suoming
>>584074970im playing dragons dogma 2 dark arisen until suoming drops
>>584075375is DDDA2 worth it? How good was the expansion?>t. played during launch and hated the performance issues so I quitI even still have the Arisen creator installed kek
>>584075375Same>>584075520I decided to try to see the performance improvements, went from unplayable sub 30 FPS at launch in a 1660 to perfectly playable 60 FPS, actually amazing performance improvement, I haven't gotten to the city that rapes your CPU though.
>>584075520they fixed the performance and added a bunch of stuff. its worth playing just for the new dungeons in the base game.
>>584075787>I haven't gotten to the city that rapes your CPU though.shit that's what I was waiting for.>>584075819alright then, that's great news.do they have a bitterblack equivalent in 2 as well?
>>584075819Nta, but you do you need to have played part 1?
>>584075520Capcom has been doing "Super" editions of their games since 1993.
>>584075973I played DDDA thrice over, I know this very well
>>584075902No, you can just jump in.>>584075879There is no bbi dungeon crawling, the new region is more like an adventure.
we need to go back to rinascita
Lily gameplay status
>>584075879>shit that's what I was waiting for.There is an option in the settings for NPC culling (limits the amount of npcs rendered) which I assume is something they added to fix that, though like I said, I haven't gotten to that city yet nor got to that point on release since it was unplayable for me so I don't know how big of an improvement it is.
>>584075879>>584076498I never dip below 120fps on a 5800x3d+9070xt at ultra 1440p, combat or city.
>>584076471they need to ditch the gay bike. flying was way better.
>>584076551she's so cool...
>>584076596neat. I'll repurchase it after I finish Wilds then. thanks guys
I'm going to start posting Augusta really soon i already took my meds
https://youtu.be/e5jZQUU15x8?si=Ir23kY1a-tNjKzuA
>>584077508They removed denuvo so its technically free now but its worth a purchase just for the pawn system.
>>584077773>They removed denuvomusic to my ears!but I do love seeing what kind of pawns people come up with, so yeah I'll do it legally
>>584076471I want to go under the sea
>>584076963Fuck flying too, original Jinzhou exploration was the best.
The story is so ass bruh
https://youtu.be/lawJRZbmQXE?si=v6dkOwnQdmmbaCbl
>>584076963The bike is so clunky compared to the smoothness of flying
Posting Augusta really soon, be ready
>>584076963>>584077949>>584078212I wish we can use those wherever we want. Why should they be restricted for when they basically have the same functions?
Can i buy the idol cat accessory yet?
THEY RUINED MY GIRLS
>>584078953We were robbed of loli Hiyuki ingame...
>>584078953said literally everyone
>>584078953We were robbed
i need suoming now
>>584079362is her eggs ovulating yet?
Chinaslop has demoralized me
>>584078953Nivora doko?
Is this the most Genshin design so far?
>>584079995India region will save us
she's so small
>>584080337lament devastated Bangladeshi region>>
>>584080346Portable wives are the best
Which of the upcoming characters are for unison and which are for electro flare?
>>584080719Uhhh.... i can see them
>>584080719I want to know this too
>>584060567>he skipped Odetteoh no no no no WHEEEEZE
>>584079995keep seething gweilo
There's the solaris livestream in less than 20 minutes, hopefully there's some small kino among the bullshit like last time
>>584076963they need to ditch both. give us a bicycle or something that's like 1.5x faster than walking
>>584081678they can't, they went all out to milk their success and sold all those bike shitthey have to keep doing bike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR9Znt09XPwGet in
>>584081540You will get your blender anislop and you will be FORCED to like it
imagine a region like jinnyzhou where it's actually meant to be walked around in but with the game's current level of fidelity
>>584022179Downloaded this for Suoming loli(baba) and got Hshin and her sig weapon. How much am I going to spoil myself if I go to Mengzhou early so I can farm her mats? I can get the major resources because they let you do some of the boss fights early but I have to do synthesis shit to get the flowers or cube/matrix thingies. I just finished 1.6 in the story so I could get HavocRover
One more reminder that tower #42 will be a Sigrika shill
EVERY tower is a sigrika shill because she's JUST that strong!
>>584081915New fed apparently has a car which they're probably going to make fly just like the bike so won't happen. Those vehicle skins need to be sold somehow
>>584081926ooc a bit but if you do the first region it's fine it's like you do freeza arc and watch the movie resurrection of F
>>584081827Ah, the cringefest made by people that dont even play the game
>>584081926most of the regions' stories are pretty self-contained, I can only think of a few things that would really count as spoilers overall and I don't think any of them are brought up in mengzhou
>>584081540usually the best one is at the end
>>584082085Sorry that your headcanon ain't shit
I'm choosing not to do the weekly run.I'm missing out on 160 astrites on purpose.
>>584082202Nice projection, bwo.
>>584081540qrd of what happened the last time?
>>584082075>>584082093Doesn't sound too bad. And I don't even really want to do any of the missions I just need to be able to get mats from the overworld cuz like I said it lets me fight all the bosses early (for a few weeks I believe
>>584082292Lots of those works were incredibly low quality. Like at rejected college presentation-level.
>>584082201It might be the kind of raped bullshit i was referring to, hated that>>584082292Bullshit, but the few of quality were absolutely amazing i stand on my words it's like they knew half of the work were going to be utterly shit they did com some sneak to make sure they don't make fools off themselves
jeet is scared shitless of th potential couples lmao
It's up
my dick? yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR9Znt09XPw
For me? Siggy wiggy and Galby walby. Fight me.
will luuk fuck my waifus again?
If no Denia + SigrikaIt's SHIT
>>584082953Jingran this time, lets mock our indian friends if they do it, its solon's will
but first, the music is kinda bussin'
Why jeet hours are always filled with cuckposting?
>>584083313Are you the cuck
>wait this time>wait 1 min>wait 10 minute >wait 1 minute to startI'm going to sleep
LIGHT!!!
why is the livestream at such a hostile time? no one is gonna be awake for this, i'm going to bed
>>584083254siggy song on now
>>584083410>please restart the premiere
I think Heart of Lahai Roi SUCK
>>584083529AAAAIIIIEEEEEE whats this magic?
>>584083637its afternoon in jp and 8 pm here in az wdym
IT'S UPFRFR
You can tell it's good because it's in japanese!
lupa is such a whore lmao
I instantly fucking muted my asmr goon azur lane and fucking unmuted the stream at the speed of light
>>584084046I'm glad that they acknowledge Lupa as the QUEEN of fusion
>FusionWhere's Jingran...
Angel boots are too big...
>>584084145with the boy band later
The choreography doesn't even makes sense with the music
wife solo
MONIMONIMONIIIIIIIII
Damn mornye how come you get a solo AND another song with lucilla and hiyuki
>>584084356DEI hire
Holy shit, Moni is yearning hard.
>2 JP songs in a rowNooticing
>>584084437target audience
>>584084437They really remembered how i trashed them last survey about last cup LMAOOOkino
Why's Black like this?
what language is that?
Im not expert but... isnt kinda bad if an idol admits romantic interest on someone?
cheese
>Chisa>KoreanWuwa and BA are uniting East Asia
>>584084638Rover is the producer so it's ok
>troon cci sleep on this one
kitaaaaaaaaaaa
Luuk is so lucky...
This gag is kinda slow
shit don't even make sense
>>584085068>t. just finished 3.7 story
>4 fan contents>Still no XuanfangXuanfang bros... why are we so hated...
>>584085039>>584085068Joke is fluffit was cute kinda but kinda slow paced like a fucking gear 5 joke
Well, thats was... meh
My Ephor!
WAITER WAITERMORE DENIA AND SIGRIKA
We love frog here.
Holy shit, that artstyle is horrible
BLACKSHORETV
A troon clearly made this one
I'm going to sound like a hoyoshill, but I really don't like the cube puzzle domains. There's too many of them, and they all look the same. Reminds me of the shrines in Breath of the Wilds, and I hated those after a while.
xuanfang no one loves you lmao!they made this shit months in advance probably
Alright, this idol thematic isn't working.
eh the first one from this group was betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZyV_NmQ_rE
>>584085642We're ony 4 clip in dudeThere will be one with qx ss and jinny later
no Anko Manko...
>>584085628>im gonna sound liek a hoyoshill>common complaintyou shouldn't be that afraid of jeet slurpers attacking you
Abby and Namipon genderbent content
>>584085746too young for the entertainment industry
>>584085114Thanks anon, I don't normally watch fan content, so I would've never been able to encounter this code.
WHAT THE FUCK WUPA
WHY
>>584085951Abby is canonically sexy
>>584085936Why is my stream slower?
>>584086021refresh page
that was the fucking noodle sandwich
The KR sure love their wolf cheebLupa and Rossi
>Lupa appears>everything gets betterHow does she do it?
>>584085856no such thing
Even in your Loopa animationSigurika!
what is this cringe shit
gacha niggas have no sense of humor what the fuck are these reminds me of those youtube kids vids that make no sense
>only 1 miss so farWhoever the fuck was in charge need a raise
pity yangyang mention
aaiiiiieee
>pizzaKINO time
>>584086438I feel Celinapizza has been getting more boring with the years.
I already saw this animation with cartethyia
look at this deadbeat fucker
>>584086574well we like to recycle plots and animations here
>>584086574Yeah, pizza does just that. A chibi retelling.Not necessarily bad, mind you, but also nothing new. Her animations used to be more interesting some years ago.
>>584086714Mortefi skipped this...
IT JUST KEEP GOING
Not as good as Carty one honestly.
>>584086984Both were boring
You people cry for everything. Bunch of faggots.
Oh good that he added stuff afterwards and it wasn't just the fuck off I'm going to another region now like what actually happened
>>584086810was he wrong though
>t.
Do we even text the pink bitch after 3.5?
>All regions featured except XuanfangEven animators hates Xuanfang, Solon needs to read the room that badly
I sleep
>lesbians>platonic daughterLmaooo
Nivora
Brantbros...
>>584087165Pumped and?
the jeet woke up
There's going to be an encore but that was kind of short regardless
They really fucking understood the assignement this time it makes me happy
>2 seconds of Yapyap Xuanling and SuisuiXuanfang bros...
>>584087295Game is a cuckge since 3.1
Im bored
why did half the posters not even get a song lmao? The boyband? mornye lucilla hiyuki? jinhsi qingxiao hsin?
>>584087531Zani refuse to wear a skirt
>>584087531carlotta is not that tall
>>584087661OMGF i did not notice
Too fucking shortwuwa is dying...
>Are_A_R didn't get featured
>The last ones were an hour 15 to 90 minutes>This one didn't even crack an hour.>half of it was unfunny chibislopyup EOS
Can someone type out all the code?
I only liked the one with the Fusion characters dancing.
>>584087815we had more, but it was all porn
What a waste of time
I'm surprised we got so much Kino compared to last time
uuuuh where's the secret New Fed teaser?
>>584088063Zani-san...
STELLARSTAGE3KEEPITSHINING
>Low effort crap>kinoLmao
>>584088215
>>584088215Wasn't it STARRYSTAGE2
>>584088396Yeah, but I spelled it on purpose, because he was too lazy to type out an actual word but somehow not lazy enough to type out the request to post it in text.
Morning and the Ragunna girls (minus Rococo) are my favourites. Though honestly it's pretty boring this time.No english song except for official songs, lul.
>>584088521Trying to push a "central theme" was just a bad idea
ANKO'S GAME
Lot of spiteful foids and trannies that visit this thread, apparently. Should ban every woman and faggot from the internet.
i love this animation style, reminds me of terminal montage but it needs more memes and refs
>>584088480What if I wasn't watching THOUGHThis thread just being useless as usual I guess
>>584088810the SMARTEST
i love namipon, i miss them
>>584088870You know for sure when you're happy they're seething
>>584088870its conveniently only ever after livestreams or events like this, funny how that works haha
>>584088891The codes were posted in the thread as images. The thread fulfilled its duty. I'm sure the next OP will have the codes in text, so not to worry, you will get your copy-and-paste.
i wish i knew how to make animations, i'd join in
okay, that was alrightnow it's nap time
i want to have sex with Changli, Yinlin, Shokie, Camellya, Buling, Encore, Verrina, Jianxin, Carlotta, Zani, Rococo, Carthetyia, Fleurdelys, Cantarella, Ciaccona, Lupa, Iuno, Augusta, Galbrena, Chisa, Lynae, Mornye, Aemeath, Sigrika, Denia, Hiyuki, Yangyangg, Chixia, Baizhi, Suisui, Hsin, Suoming, Qingxiao, Lily, I.R.I.S., Rosemary, Mya and Nivora.in that order
>>584089097This thing is only for Kuro-sponsored CCs tho
>>584089185Delete your post and support anon before i fucking rape you
>>584089185You can be a Kuro-sponsored CCs too if you knew how to animate
>>584089235I double dare you
>>584087661BASED
I want that wupa outfit as a skin...
>no randowhisgrim
>>584089420Rover's mom is really cute
THERE WAS AN ANIMATED MONYAMI??????????????????????????????????????????????
They fug
I am literally in love with Aemeath
EoS soon
lewd
Really dead. Shorten the patch, solon.
>>584090842Sigrika is a pure young girl who don't know what sex is
Phrolova should be a Rover wife
>>584091184I agree with this frog.
>>584091018>LILY will save the game!no one says this
>>584091025They don't know what to do with frog. I starting to think that they don't know what to do with most characters after one patch.
>>584090842Cute Lesbian
>>584091639>>584091639>>584091639
are you hsr tranny?
>>584092650>>584092259>>584092134>>584092006>>584091897cute
>>584092464slut of startorch academy
>>584091639
