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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>584117737
Hoo...
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I need to get my shit together.
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Sorries... for NOTHING *ollies*
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>>584117825
...man!
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>>584117825
...boys!
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>ratings go up dramatically
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hey guys!
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metal husband
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Sleepy siblings
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>>584118634
sleepy after a long night of pseudo incest
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>>584118546
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>>584118634
I was wondering what the fuck the green thing under Orange was and it turns out I somehow didn't recognize Flowery
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>>584117737
new whiteboard
https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77351103-3742-9163

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Ralsei getting his adorable nose booped by everyone in the Light World and thiking it's a common greeting (until he tries touching Undyne's face and she immediately restrains him)
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>>584119265
this but replace nose with penis
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>>584119265
>first day in Hometown and already doing time for non-consensual booping
>on the positive side, Ralsei is now the coolest kid in school
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>>584119198
There are 2 posible ways for toby to handle sans, or do literraly that (from the video) or all is gonna be a nothing burger
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSCC71P3E0E
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>>584119505
Noelle wouldn't be allowed to hang out with him because Carol doesn't want her daughter around rapists and if you're not friends with Noelle you're not cool in monster school
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>>584119505
free my boy he did nothing wrong #ACAB
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>>584119604
>Noelle wouldn't be allowed to hang out with him
Which is exactly why she would still do it and they'd boost each other's social credit
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>>584119765
>Kris sneaks Ralsei's hat into the pen
>Ralsei is immediately released
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>>584119907
how could making him black possibly improve the situation
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Waking up suuuucks i wanna sleep moooooar
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>>584120019
hometown is in europe
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>>584120083
hometown is in massachusetts
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>>584120019
He charms the police with his dope flow
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Now watch fave whip
Now watch fave nay-nay
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Could it be that "Dr. Gaster" is actually pseudonym he took on to avoid the evil protein cats?
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What is the significance of the internet being out in Hometown?
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>>584120113
america is still a british colony in dr universe
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>>584120227
To signify Hometown being cut off from the rest of the world, like letters for Gerson that stopped being sent only recently
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I'm starting to realize that my sister was to me kinda what dess was for kris (NOT THE GROOMING)
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Dr. Gaster is helping me find my vessel.
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i wish i could draw...
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>>584120520
I wish could draw big fat juicy cocks...
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>>584120274
The British were smart enough to exploit the monsters during the War of Independence, which in this universe is called War of Dependence
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test
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when people talk about hometown being a simulation and everything being fake, what is the entire deal with kris, the plan, the past, etc
dark worlds have history, but that history is based on events and things that happened in the light world previously
so what is hometown supposed to be based on?
a simple computer simulation doesn't fit very well imo
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>>584120612
america was the monsters' promised land under britain's supervision
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>>584120475
not grooming, but you wish it was
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I love fish
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i think i got madonna/whore'd over deltarune characters
drawing them sexualized makes me feel bad
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ralsei fulfills both the madonna and whore roles
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>>584120942
you should only draw wholesome vanilla sex
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Sinful chocolate sex
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How do I-
How do-
Howd-
Howdy
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>>584120942
i dont really like when stuff from works i like is non tastefully sexualized, i read fanfics sometimes but i wouldn't really look at porn of it most of the time and i think most of the porn is ooc in a way where it's clear the artist doesn't really like the characters like i do
im fine with it if they do though
is that really a madonna whore type thing
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>>584121319
Shhhhh *jerks him off gently*
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>>584121368
? his brain is exposed
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I woke up 5 minutes ago, had a wank, and now I am in this thread. Hi!
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>>584121554
and what am I supposed to do about that? castle town doesn't have a hospital.
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>>584121630
Wank before breakfast
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I ate a lot and drank a lot, along with vomit, what Deltarune character should I expel from my mind and body in about 3 minutes?
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>>584121785
mewmew's blankety blank butthole
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>>584121785
The pic reminds me of Chuck's New Tux
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I’m on the toilet taking a poo and a pee
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Hgnn... Oof..!! *plop!*
Whew. That was one big chapter 5.
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it’s so cold today and i’m no longer overweight for insulation
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It’s much funnier if you imagine the 5 hateposts all come from Ralsei on like 5 different smartphones
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why is it taking a shit and not giving a shit? since you're giving it to the toilet
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>>584117816
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>>584120072
I wish I had a fave to cuddle while I slept
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>>584122369
Cute!!
yes...
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>>584122385
Flowery doesn't look like that
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>>584122335
I did notice some of them being ralseifags
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Good morning utg. What's on the menu today?
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>>584122593
The usual
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>>584122471
Proof?
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Gonna listen to the mewmew butthole vocaroo while I read later
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10 Hours Of MewMew's Butthole Epithets To Sleep and Study To
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>>584122849
he actually looks like this
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>>584122494
Is it really unreasonable to be disappointed in the "Ralsei chapter" considering what he got
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>>584123035
alright raly back to brewing burgers in castle town lil buddy
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alphys would be so perfect if she didn’t like anime…
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Mew Mew found dead in abandoned factory. Suspected gang violence.
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>>584123035
3 and especially 4 were good for him so i don't mind 5 too much
ralsei-wise it gave a lot of cute moments, so 8/10 on that front
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>>584123035
Yeah, it was rather underwhelming
Overall I had fun with Ch5 regardless, but Ralsei's arc is the one part of it that felt really weak
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>>584123035
reasonable to be disappointed since for some reason it still isn't resolved by the end of chapter 5
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>>584123231
alphys would be so perfect if she watched anime while I performed cunnilingus on her (and also if she showered more)
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>>584123035
Nah, I'm not a Ralseifag and even I was disappointed. I was happy to see him meaningfully interact with a non-Lightner for once but it felt like a retread of his arc and Susie being sidelined for his sake when she's been helping him on his path before that point bummed me out.
I'm particularly disappointed with the fire magic reveal, I really like the idea that the place for it was supposed to be in ch4 at the titan fight to parallel the healing Jack scene, it's definitely more interesting than Ralsei using it for a normal projectile that doesn't even do much damage in a moment so forgettable I had to check it actually happened in-game instead of in a mod I imagined...
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>>584123035
When did Toby call it the “Ralsei Chapter”
Why did you put that in quotation marks
It was the love chapter, in which Ralsei played a large part. As did Kris and Susie
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chapter 5
what a ride
sadly this is where our story ends

that’s a shame
you may say
now it’s your turn to pick up the pen

each upstroke
a work bespoke
write the poem that you want to see
photograph
on behalf
of the way you see the world to be
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>>584123575
kris didn't do shit beside opening the fountain
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*swooces out from behind a nearby tree*
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>>584123636
Kris is more emotionally involved in this chapter than in any previous one
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>>584123612
I drew the world I was in last night and fave died in a nuclear explosion. Can someone else go back to writing? I keep getting fave killed.
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>>584123575
people assumed flowery is to ralsei what gerson was to susie. and i wanted to say and what queen was to noelle but i can't recall queen ever mentoring noelle or doing anything but giving some lore, sort of like what tenna did for kris
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>>584123575
In Chapter 2 Noelle gets to be in the party and is the star of the secret cool and edgy route with an incredible scene in 5 and the upcoming Side B
Susie gets a whole solo boss fight and the story wanks the crap out of her in Chapter 4
Ralsei gets.... in the trans watch list.
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>>584123775
Noita mentioned
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>>584123863
yeah, god forbid a white boy get a lil motion
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>>584123920
AIEEEEEEE
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>>584123775
Toby was cruel showing us what Catti might wear in the dark world if she ever went there.
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why are people upset that susie gets the most screentime and story focus when she is the main character and driving force in the narrative of hope
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i feel like ralsei's biggest moments/best writing will happen in the end game so it makes sense that 5 was more a recap on his story vs any new major developments
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Take care of yourself, kid. ‘cause someone really cares about you
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ralsei won't get anymore character development after chapter 5 btw hope you liked it
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>>584124039
idk she's going to die anyway
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>>584124039
I thought the game is about Three Heroes not The Great Hero Susie and Her Sidekicks
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>>584124040
It was not a recap, Ralsei fundamentally changed
He is now willing to act decisively for the sake of his own love even in spite of his knowledge of what is fated to come
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>>584124165
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>584124114
There's still his gender reveal party and vaginoplasty surgery minigame
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>>584123519
Absolutely agree with everything here, doesn't help that he's also way too passive, considering what Ch4 was already setting up. Kind of reminds me when a character in a series gets some development, then next season the writers roll it back so they can do wackier plots again.
Fingers crossed for Ch6 to get things going down for real.
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fave stayed up all night drinking sick juice and they have to go to church in 45 minutes and they're still kind of drunk please pray for fave
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Ralsei becomes a woman but then Toby's misogyny kicks in and she spends her whole chapter being captured.
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>>584123920
>timepoop lost!
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>>584124165
>trying to beat flowery? NOT UNDER MY WATCH!
>anyway kris I know you keep opening fountains and bring the roaring closer with them but I'm sure you know what you're doing even if I don't understand it hehe. Oh and don't worry I won't say anything anymore to susie even if I told her I would be sincere yesterday after she got really angry.
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>>584124350
it’s ok jesus famously liked wine
any christian that tells you drinking isn’t ok is a heretic
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>>584124461
i can't wait for susie to find about that, genuinely pissed me off knowing ralsei knows and hasn't told susie
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>>584124461
ermmmm but ralsei told susie about the config menu when she asked
he’s following his promise
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>>584124616
he is such a little rat, he doesn't know anything about the plan but he's just willing to go along with whatever kris wants because i guess he likes humie dick that much
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>>584124212
Ralsei has not affirmed his own value and significance in the past
In Chapter 4 he was willing to hope that Kris and Susie’s actions might change fate, but his own he considered irrelevant
He didn’t even believe he had the right to likes and dislikes, let alone to an active role in the events to come
In Chapter 5 he encounters a flower, a symbol of love, the Flowey to his Asriel
This encounter fundamentally transforms him
Now he is willing to act against fate for the sake of who and what he loves: for Flowery, for his friends, for the world, even if rationally he believes there is nothing he can accomplish
This is a huge change for the guy who didn’t used to think he had the right to likes anything
Now he isn’t going to wait for Kris and Susie, he is going to take initiative
He has to try
The foreshadowing about him leaving the party is connected to this
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>>584124603
Is that supposed to be dess?
Did nobody give the memo to the artist that carol is fuck ugly and not a good basis for anyone’s character design?
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>>584124616
>"kris why didn't tell me? we could have worked it out together. don't ever do something like that again. you know you can count on me!"
in other words:
>nothing changed
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>>584124072
Sans you lying bitch
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>>584124737
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>>584124461
I typically have a major indifference towards Ralsei but the line in particular about "Even if I disagree with it, all it means is I just don't understand you yet!" I guess is meant to be a cute and wholesome moment of Ralsei putting his faith in Kris but it genuinely, honestly reads like an abuse victim rationalizing the abusers actions.
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>>584124616
he probably doesn't want to risk their friendship collapsing or something
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>>584124767
you're upset that dess isn't hot enough?
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>>584124737
>This is a huge change for the guy who didn’t used to think he had the right to likes anything
are you using google translate or should we be concerned
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>>584124989
Do you have anything to actually say or what
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once again the only party member fully locked in, is kris
ralsei and susie are such bums i cant even
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>>584124737
That image is gonna make me self-harm
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>>584125216
Susie is the main character though
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>>584125170
I was originally going to say “likes and dislikes” and it’s not as if the typo actually obscures the meaning of the post at all. Do you want to have a conversation about the characters or not
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>>584125089
it's also funny when like 30 minutes laters he's like
>Kris? you're not holding back are you? despite me healing flowery and sucking up all of our tp when you're trying to beat him?
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>>584125119
Yeah? Just because her mom is the worst Tobysoft Inc design ever made doesn’t mean Dess needs to he ugly, just maker her a teenage girl version of Rudy.
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>>584125282
that's exactly what kris wants you to think
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>>584124737
But Chapter 5 also established he loves Kris and wants to cowardly hide behind Kris, letting them do the fate changing agenda believing Kris has good intentions. It's nice, but it's yet again more setup, because now we have to see Ralsei rationalizing Kris' idea is bad, deciding to stop Kris from doing something bad, then actually stop Kris. I just wish there was a little bit of payoff for Ralsei, not more setup, please, I'm so tired of setting up.
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>>584125308
>maker her
please be fluent in english before replying to my posts
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>>584125179
it would be pointless
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>>584125282
Susie is the ultimate NPC. All her "chooses for you" options are fake like these false Yes/No options in JRPGs. She's saying she'll stop the bad thing from the prophecy but it will happen because of her actions because it's how written fate goes, she was always meant to think she can change fate but fails, no other character is a greater puppet than Susie. Her tragedy is believing she was free in the first place, while Kris, Noelle and Ralsei are all aware they are not free.
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>>584124737
Not really, he doesn't do anything he wouldn't do before
He hates Flowery's guts, but Flowery's not a villain, just a dickhead, so there isn't grounds enough to let him die
And overall, he doesn't really demonstrate any meaningful change, we're just told a lesson and expected to think things are different now
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>>584125556
even him feeling bad for flowery at the end it's him falling back into his place
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>>584125556
>he hates Flowery’s guts
No he doesn’t? He literally explicitly says that he does not hate Flowery and then he is later desperate to save his life
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>>584125401
Okay how’s this.
Carol is ugly as shit and if Dess is that terrible looking the game will be worse off for it.
Just give me generic hot girl fanon dess thanks.
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>>584125556
Bro played (watched) the chapter with his eyes closed
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chara asmr...
chara quietly listing all the ways she'd kill a man
chara whispering sweet nothings as he sharpens a knife
chara humming komm susser todd
chara breathing heavily over your dying body
chara kissing you anyways because she's a super freak
chara reminiscing on better times, but like the time he spent with asriel and not with you
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deltarune fans when the child character isn't sexy enough
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>>584125530
the worst part is that fate IS set up to be able to be changed by your power, but susie enjoys most of the prophecy so she was never going to sit down and think about any of this seriously
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>>584125302
well i mostly agree with you but i don't think ralseis transformation is finished yet, the only tangible effect flowery had on ralsei that we could see is
1. poked at ralsei enough to make him feel less uncomfortable on using his fire shock
2. stops disintegrating into fluff when his hp falls to 0
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>>584125789
hhhhghghghghhrhrhghhahfhfhgghg
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>The story is telling you this.
>"Okay but what if it doesn't happen? Why am I supposed to believe in the writing?"
I mean, I dunno what to say if you refuse to engage with the narrative
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>fucking traitor
>somehow the most coherent character
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>>584125796
yeah why did she have to be a mouse?
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>>584125937
shes a HUMAN you CHIBI!!
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>>584125680
>and then he is later desperate to save his life
Well yeah, because like I said, Flowery's not s villain, just misguided
>>584125742
If you had something to say, you'd say it
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>>584125912
SHOW DON'T TELL
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>>584125736
average moid trying to form a coherent critical thought:
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>>584125880
god i too wish i made that noise as i throated him...
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>>584126016
Flowery isn’t even misguided. The whole point of the battle with the Flowers is that it’s a contest of loves forced unwillingly on the participants by circumstance. Flowery’s love for his friends and his desire to live isn’t a mistake
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>>584126016
>misguided
let's be real, he's a dick to ralsei
>but he's trying to help him
doesn't matter, he's still a dick
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>>584126058
I don't think that's what that post is about
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Aqua should show not tell me about her pussy
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>>584126069
please keep posting like this because it gives me a boner
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>>584126201
>Flowery’s love for his friends and his desire to live isn’t a mistake
I agree with this. What I mean by "misguided" is his methods of trying to get Ralsei to see his way, since he's trying to be a mentor while ignorant of the fact his approach doesn't really work. In the end it's arguably him being slashed that affects Ralsei the most.
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>>584126173
chara cumming down my throat straight into my stomach ehehehehehe
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Before I played undertale, I was a murdering rapist.
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>>584126550(me)
now I'm a murdering rapist pedophile
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>>584126550
me too. undertale taught me that murder is not cool. it didn't say anything about rape so i still do that.
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>>584126232
Here's the funny thing about it: I don't even mind him being a dick. But I wish he actually stuck to his guns and was a dick until the end so that Ralsei truly hit the breaking point and went hog wild. And THEN after getting slashed Flowery could have confessed what he was trying to do, making it a much stronger moment. It's as if Toby was afraid people would like Flowery less that way or something, but I would have much more respect for him if he kept up the bit.
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Is GREEN secretly evil and working for ERAM?
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>>584126440
fuck...
god itd be wonderful if i could feel chara's cock pulse on my tongue with each splurt of cum
maybe a hand running through my hair too...
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>>584126659
he should have been a dick period. But toby can only write wholesome chungus.
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>>584126428
He’s just teasing Ralsei and playing up his game-breaking antics with the hope that that will make Ralsei realize he can do the same thing, that he has the right to express himself and can find happiness even “within the margins” of a role assigned to him. And it works. He is able to draw out of Ralsei so many different emotions, a clear confession that there are things he passionately wants, the resolve to struggle against fate *in his own way*…
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>>584126754
and the heavy breathing. and the bucking of the hips. and so on. and so forth. all the unavoidable pleasures of the flesh they will feel as they use me
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>>584125474
kek
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>>584126818
no, ralsei knows full well he can't do shit without fucking up everything. he has to follow the prophecy. he even calls out flowery on that.
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>>584126428
Flowery isn't really meant to be a proper mentor. Toby said as much in the Newsletter the flowers have no clue what's like to actually be human. The most Flowery is doing is trying to make Ralsei understand through any means, and if Ralsei hated him for it, that was fine
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>>584126818
>“within the margins”
i don't think working within the margins is what flowery is about, that's more blue's thing. flowery is all about breaking those margins or ignoring them
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foid or gay
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>>584126943
Ralsei is a little bitch coward who's afraid of taking responsability for his choices. He's hiding behind Kris hoping Kris will find a way to save the world and do what he can't, and Flowery was correct to call him out.
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>>584126943
It’s not about what you “know,” it’s about what you feel and what you want
>I have to try
>>584126983
It’s a both/and situation
>even if broken I am more than glass
He struggles against fate but even then prepares contingencies for his seemingly inevitable defeat
If something terrible is fated to happen, if you are determined to die, are you going to die free or are you going to die miserably like a dog
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zivuCNnTpbk
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>>584125303
i think the context there was that they were going to go all out against flowery because he [flowery] wanted to be taken seriously and not be pitied/coddled and they're pacifist good guys so of course they had to do this through non violence. the confusion for me though is what's the point of saying don't hold back go all out if all the player is doing is dodging and complimenting flowery. i guess because the fountain will be closed and flowery will "die"? still, it falls flat for me.
this setup is common in shonen manga and it normally works because mc and friends have to go thru the mental trauma of harming their mentor but yeah flowery's not really being harmed. not by fun gang anyway

>>584125089
>honestly reads like an abuse victim rationalizing the abusers actions.
sort of analysis you see from 35/16 year olds on twitter with PROSHIP DNI in bio
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>>584127047
Foid!
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>>584125789
>chara humming komm susser todd
hey i actually understood all of those words
maybe i am getting somewhere with my german
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>>584126818
>with the hope that that will make Ralsei realize he can do the same thing
The problem here is that Ralsei barely does that, the thing with the shuriken being the most prominent example, making for a weak payoff. It just makes Flowery come off as inefficient and Ralsei as way too passive for how far into his arc he is. The whole "I bully you because I love you" speech he gives halfway through also just rubs me the wrong way. Somehow that's worse than if he just kept being a dick, probably because it feels like further attempts to justify his behavior to the audience instead of taking a risk.
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>>584127312
>The problem here is that Ralsei barely does that, the thing with the shuriken being the most prominent example, making for a weak payoff.
ok but the point of that scene wasn't to show that he is now "cutting loose" or "breaking the rules", he's supposed to use fire magic, that's following the rules. this scene was more so that the player understood ralsei can use fireshock, and that susie became aware of it too, there may be moments in future chapters where she's like "uhh raly can you use that big fire spell you used last chapter rq"
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>>584127312
>the shuriken thing is the most prominent example
Not really. That would be healing Flowery’s fatal injury. Where he literally says
>I have to try!
The shuriken thing mostly serves to demonstrate how much Ralsei is holding back, the arbitrary nature of the game systems in place, and that what Flowery is trying to draw out of Ralsei is real
>I bully you because I love you
Yeah, he teases him because he cares. Why is this such a strange idea? The worst thing he does is stand on Ralsei, which is something Ralsei literally volunteers to have done to him all the time. He also shows in the end by healing Flowery that he genuinely does care and that the “bullying” wasn’t this cruel traumatic thing that will haunt him forever
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kris and susie buy a pet off the dark web
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>>584127482
there were better occasions to do that than against some -20hp projectile you've likely been hit by before
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>>584126952
That's certainly the way I felt, wish it was conveyed a little better, I guess
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Will the Tennoids be out of church and prayer meetings in a few hours, favey's got a drawing brewing for them and want them to see it
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>>584127312
Ralsei will do something in later chapters, but not in Chapter 5. This is a pacing issue at its core
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>>584127747
Is today religiously significant or something why is everyone in church
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>>584127573
when
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>>584127554
>The worst thing he does is stand on Ralsei, which is something Ralsei literally volunteers to have done to him all the time
there's a difference when it's your friends doing it or a complete stranger
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>>584127782
which is after chapter 5 everybody got concerned with the pacing. toby certainly didn't help after saying chapter 6 will be "short"
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As much as I'm banking on a few major supporting darkner characters in ch6 I really hope the conflict is mostly main character-driven. Ch5 was really weird in that regard, it felt like the fun gang were forgetting about or ignoring each other when it came to anything but the platforming dialogue which is doubly weird reading after 3/4's moments
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>>584127870
It’s a Boy’s Treat for a guy like him
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>>584127852
it's sunday
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>>584127891
but at least it will have something in it, unlike 5
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>>584127854
gerson statue or the titan, for one
if it had to happen in chapter 5 toby could've tried just a little bit to make up a slightly more serious threat than a surprise common projectile
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>>584128046
wish I could simply delete flowery in the menu
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>>584127854
literally any other time their lives were threatened like every single boss fight
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It's gonna be awkward when Chapter 6 has its obligatory 15 minutes of castle town gag humor then the rest of the chapter is serious angsty locking in the plot no more joking around
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>>584128046
wish I could simply delete ralsei in the menu
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>>584128046
Remember to turn on 'Ralsei Correction' in the menu
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>>584127482
That just means one less example of him cutting loose then.
>>584127554
>That would be healing Flowery’s fatal injury
Which he still can't accomplish, so it isn't exactly equivalent to anything Flowery pulls. The issue with all of Ralsei's moments of "cutting loose" in Ch5 is that they feel like tiniest crumbs of what people have been waiting for, and that's why that payoff was underwhelming to a bunch of players.
>The worst thing he does is stand on Ralsei, which is something Ralsei literally volunteers to have done to him all the time
Before Ch5, Ralsei offers for Kris and Susie to stand on him in situations where it's clearly not required, reaffirming his subservience before he finally he finally starts to grow out of it. He does serve as a platform later, but this time there's actual practical application for this and he's aware of that. Also, there's a very big difference between, say, your best friend smacking you upside the head and some rando doing the same because he thinks he is your friend.
>He also shows in the end by healing Flowery that he genuinely does care
If someone was a dick to me and I saw them dying later, I wouldn't leave them to bleed out either
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>>584127441
Uoh ToT
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>>584128135
worth it for pluey making biscuits
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what's up with the fact that the friend colors are pink and yellow
and susie and noelle were both made to be pink and yellow respectively
just not the sort of thing you do by mistake, is it
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I think Sans, despite abandoning his quiche, would enjoy cannoli
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>>584128003
hmm my guess is that ralsei also doesn't want the player to know he has a 'fuck you, die' spell. he knew he could handle the statue with his scarf, he likely knew that they weren't going to fall to the titan (so why use it), but he wasn't sure if the cut scene shuriken was going to seriously harm susie or not, so he was caught off guard and used it on reflex and spilled the beans

>>584128108
the prophecy doesn't say "the heroes will die to the bpd tv" so it's fine
but also he doesn't want to hurt anyone, even if they're bad. iceshock is an instakill, fireshock is likely similar
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>>584128348
friend is their son
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oooooh baby
babbyyy oooooo baby ohhhh uuuu hhh
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>>584128348
friend represents an evil vagina
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what if i dont care about media literacy and just wantt o have fun
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Is it any good?
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>>584128494
evil flower can turn into a shota gote so it's an investment that pays 100x
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>>584128525
media literacy lets you have extra fun by just thinking!!
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>>584128495
pluey was added to the game so that DUMB people have something DUMB to enjoy. Because they are DUMB!
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>>584128135
i'll cheer because i love tonal shifts. sword route was so peak
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I wish I could turn back time
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>>584128714
To the good old days?
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>>584128614
but i cant think... im too dumb..
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pluey so baby
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>>584128647
and baby I've got a gilded seat on the short bus
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>>584128348
and the ch5 main secret boss is pink and main boss is gold (fancy yellow)
and the cat billboard in cyber city is pink and yellow
and catti's earrings are yellow and her dyed hair is pink
and pluey's eyes are pink and yellow and spamton's eyes and pink and yellow and the game controller used in the S rank room is pink and yellow

Who fucking knows?
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Why are all the cute noelle cosplayers lesbians
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>>584128714
>>584128751
finally, you have learned the lesson of the deltarune. Go, my children, and spread the word!
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>>584128284
>which he still can’t accomplish
Which is exactly what makes it significant, Ralsei is attempting to do the impossible despite the fact that his reason and his knowledge of the prophecy tell him that he cannot. It is definitely setup for some thing or things he is doing later, but if you care about Ralsei, Flowery and their relationship it is a significant moment in itself as well and the capstone to their entire dynamic.

You literally care about this stomping scene more than Ralsei does, after it happens he grumbles a bit and then never brings it up again. In fact he says
>s-stupid flowery… why does he have to be so…
while blushing like right after he comes back. Raly was not traumatized by this incident
>flowery is a dick and ralsei doesn’t care
He literally says that he doesn’t hate Flowery, that he has lovable qualities and he just disagrees with the way he does things
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>>584128417
ok but if they had lost to the titan wouldn't it have started the roaring?
my only guess is that he's somewhat aware that the soul is an instant win button or something, and he reacted because it has no influence in cutscenes (which is why the knight is forced into the cutscene merchant role)
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>>584128714
keep wishing little flower
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>>584128495
>realistic high-pitched microphone feedback
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>>584128647
but toby love pluey
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>>584128135
Don't get my hopes up
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>>584128792
They aren't lesbians. They just pretend to be lesbians so that you'll leave them alone.
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floweriggers think the game revolves around him. can't wait for chapter 6 so he can be forgotten.
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>>584128785
don't call me baby unless you're going to kiss me
>>584128885
toby is how you say dumb in french.
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Is the Ralsei and Flowery universe better than the universes where we would've gotten Ralsei and Asgore, Ralsei and Asriel, Ralsei and Flowey, or Ralsei and Sans for his character arc?
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increase plue levels to maximum
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common misconception. the game actually revolves around pluey
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what this thread should post:
pluey
ralsei
cat tenna
spamton
cat tenna playing with spamton like prey

thats it
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why do women like pluey so much? what does he have that I don't
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The Pluerd Revolving
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>>584129249
>ralsei
bro really tried to sneak that one in
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>>584129139
fuck no
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>>584128834
>my only guess is that he's somewhat aware that the soul is an instant win button or something,
this is a cool thought
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>>584128787
There's also the "Nametags" joke in Undertale. If you tell the Froggit that "Yellow names are bad" they all change it to pink name tags instead and the spare text becomes pink. It's all probably nothing. Probably. I don't even know why it would matter, if it even could matter.
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friend is better
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>>584129139
I'm not too big a fan of the existing dynamic but I definitely prefer it to Asgore neglecting Kris for a bioson expy, Asriel coming back only for Ralsei development instead of anything more immediately important to him, Flowey showing up in a completely different game or Sans being an important Lightner character and showing up in a dark world for some reason
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pluey's would probably have the same ragdoll physics as ferrets
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Spamton won
Tenna is pathetic
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>>584128792
like many lesbians i've met they're "lesbian" until they find the perfect guy
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ENTRY NUMBER EIGHTEEN
-ADDED PLUEY
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>>584129297
i'm a man and i love pluey
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>>584129297
fur. a darling smile. affability. sax noises.
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>>584128614
I hate thinking
thought is the root of all agony
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>>584129552
you will love chapter 5 then!
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>>584129139
i didn't ever expect asriel to be a mentor to ralsei but that could've been sex-- i mean that could've been really good for ralsei's development
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>>584129527
i think you're a woman in disguise like that one movie about a woman in disguise
>>584129532
I can make sax noises if i have a saxophone
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>>584129349
if ralsei were a catboy those other bums would be washed, boxed, and shipped
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Pluey's matted and flea infested butthole~
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now’s
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>>584129805
they still are
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FAVE'S GONNA FREAKING SPRUNK
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>>584129596
>Two months ago
>Zero progress
It's in dev hell.
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>>584129805
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas
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>>584129381
it would explain a lot, he's at least aware of our, not just the soul's existence, like when he looks back at the camera in ch3 when susie says that kris "made" her wear the ribbon
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>>584129914
Carol talking to someone who's child died in a drunk driving accident.
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pluey's COMBED and DELOUSED butthole
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*gently and delicately prances into the thread*
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>>584129992
Maybe the child shouldn't have been drinking and driving if they wanted to celebrate Christmas ever thought about that
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>>584128807
>Ralsei is attempting to do the impossible despite the fact that his reason and his knowledge of the prophecy tell him that he cannot
I'm not saying it's not a significant moment, I'm saying that for all that setup it's not really much, considering all the tension buildup. It's one heartfelt moment in a chapter that feels like Ralsei is being bounced from one beat to another, which is hardly satisfying.
>Raly was not traumatized by this incident
Didn't say it was traumatizing either, but that was hardly pleasant for him. Like I mentioned, the problem is not even the dickishness, it's the justification.
>He literally says that he doesn’t hate Flowery, that he has lovable qualities and he just disagrees with the way he does things
Their dynamic does progress, but "the way he does things" is directly related to the hecking that antagionizes Ralsei in the first place.
I guess there's also the fact that this is the one moment in Toby's writing where I just couldn't see the progression as natural. I do buy Ralsei feeling sympathy for a dying Flowery, but some stuff before that felt a little more forced. I get that Toby was writing a Mary Sue parody, but it came of more like an actual Mary Sue.
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I want horse Ralsei to perforate my colon and fucking kill me.
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>>584130060
I'm gonna ranch this ralsei so hard I don't care what susie thinks
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>>584130000
congrats on your lice free quads pluey
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you're all kinda scaring me
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CHAPTER 6! I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!
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>>584129992
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>>584130064
>but it came of more like an actual Mary Sue.
all the flowers....
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>>584130163
let's all pin down this anon and throw walnuts at him
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i wish i could compose
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>>584130283
toby after chapter 5...
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I LOVE MY BOY RALSEI
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>>584130163
are you scared because of the unusually high level of quality posting today? because i am too
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Buttcrack cyst itches... anyway here's Battat.
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would a vibrator held against a penis actually feel good or is it just a porn thing
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>>584130335
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>>584130404
why don't you try sissy boy?
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>>584130404
I've heard that it feels good if you're wearing a chastity cage. Also if you aren't.
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i wish i could compost
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>>584130406
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>Fwahaha, Susie my sister's clothes fit you so well! Now go to bed next to Kris, you two are gonna recreate some of my childhood memories!
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>>584130404
i cummeded using a dualshock controllers vibration once
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how it feels to be a sensitive young kris in a world of roaring knights
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>>584130530
moid or foid
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>>584130530
how old were you and do you have a penis
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>>584130515
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>>584130591
>>584130608
rather not say...
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>>584130515
perfect blowjob height
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>>584130629
ccccccccccccccccccccute
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>>584130550
good thing asriel can fill him up with his warmth
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>>584130661
come on just tell us it will be fun
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>>584130064
It felt like a pretty massive moment to me. A character I am extremely emotionally invested in was critically injured, and Ralsei was acting for love’s sake in the face of the impossible to save that injured character.
>ralsei is bounced from one beat to another
I’m not entirely sure what you mean by this. Ralsei has several different interactions with Flowery, and each logically proceeds into the next.
>the justification
So you don’t like that Flowery is a tragic hero, and yet still willing to tease and joke around? I don’t get that.
>their dynamic does progress
The statement I was referring to is in the Garden of Hopes and Dreams, at the beginning of the Dark World, and Ralsei is referring primarily to the voice clips, the way he bends game systems, etc. This is a common feature of their relationship going back to the early, 2016 drafts of Chapter 5.
>mary sue
Who dies and can’t protect his world or his friends’ smiles?
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>>584130243
Nah, I don't think they're all Mary Sues, I actually really enjoyed all of their encounters except Flowery, and even he had funny visual gags and a cool boss fight. It's just the Ralsei stuff that leaves some to be desired.
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>>584130516
would susie accept?
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>>584130629

>>584130662
that image doesn't say ralseis length though, he could be 3 meters tall and have a mountain of hidden muscles beneath the robe for all we know
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>>584130709
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fave needs your shabriri grapes to see the light do you?
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>>584130404
vibrators are too powerful even on low speed and take away a lot of the enjoyment of gooning such as the slow buildup and you're left with a quick, shallow, unsatisfying orgasm. said fave
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>>584130846
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>>584130897
fave should take a chill pill because I ain't giving him my eyes
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>>584130842
>>584130963
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>>584130937
why don’t these retarded companies make moidbrators that have a nice and slow setting
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when will toby de-implement pluey
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ralsei wishes he had even a third of pluey's natural moe
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>>584130846
>>584130963
>>584131040
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>>584130897
Fingerprint Kris...

I mean, the Soul is basically the Flame of Frenzy right down to it being an Outer God.
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>>584130404
Vibrators are better for buttstuff.
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>>584131040
>>584131130
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>>584130937
>>584131057
you just can't last long like the sissy you are. mine does barely anything at 1 intensity
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>>584131130
>>584131180
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he really is the cutest to ever do it
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>>584131057
>>584131195
i don't have a penis i just don't like vibrators. i mean, fave doesn't
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>>584131180
>>584131210
>>584131279
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>>584131295
ewwwwwwwww
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>>584131295
clit stims are great, sis. get a we vibe tango x
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>>584131312
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nutted to shota
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>>584131457
take a shower dess
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>>584131425
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>>584131457
nyoooo
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Goteposting and sissy/sex toy talk
Interesting how these things are always connected
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>>584131425
>>584131312
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>>584131560
>>584131612
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why is the shitpost sunset of seven suns remix so GOOD?!?
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>>584131579
male homosexuals are Goteposter asrielis
sissies are Goteposter ralseii
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>>584131678
the kick your butt in smash bros?
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>>584131579
i inspire people without even having to say a word :D

>>584131612
>>584131674

>>584131774
many people are saying this!!
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>>584130780
>A character I am extremely emotionally invested in was critically injured
Can't fault you for liking a character, but apples to oranges, I guess.
>I’m not entirely sure what you mean by this
Ralsei just seems rather passive to me throughout Ch5 outisde of a couple key moments, which is something that other anons have pointed out as well, including ones that aren't even that into him. For the majority of the time it feels like things happen to him while he himself does very little, and that's especially frustrating for the character whose potential has gone unrealised for a fairly long time.
>So you don’t like that Flowery is a tragic hero, and yet still willing to tease and joke around?
Not at all. I posted about that earlier, the gist is that if Flowery stuck to his heckling bit till the end and Ralsei was allowed to really let his anger out, it'd feel more satisfying, but instead it feels like Toby wanted to hammer in that Flowery's a good guy as if that wasn't clear, which also kind of de-escalates the tension and takes away an opportunity for a good scene or two where Ralsei actually shows agency.
>Who dies and can’t protect his world or his friends’ smiles?
He's not a full-on generic Mary Sue, but too many things about him read like that, and while I do undesrstand Toby's intention, his character feels a little manipulative towards the audience.
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>>584131828
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why does chara think humanity sucks when all i’m doing is lying in my bed with my cat nuzzled against me and the heater on high
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>>584131930
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>>584131524
unfortunately(?) i am a human man and not a dead doe
>>584131573
was a pretty good nut too
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Underrune gay goat pillow fort for fags
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>>584131819
Yeah, I listened to it till midnight yesterday and today I listened to it on repeat three times. The only time I find singing in a remix acceptable.
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>>584132083
>>584131930
>>584131828
so many goatfriends...
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>>584132083
>>584132189
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>>584132272
A cute one I didn't have, thanks
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>>584132165
truefax

>>584132189
>>584132241
>>584132272
the more the merrier :D
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>>584132241
ai...?
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>>584132472
>>584132475
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I want you to be honest with me.
How big is your UTDR image folder?
I'm 3,761 images, 1.38GB
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>>584131419
this sounds like it would be too powerful
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>>584132675
5,544, 2.28 GB
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>>584132609
>>584132675
19 428 images
12,6 GB
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post PLUEY
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>>584132675
1581 images, 710 MB
Which is pretty nice, considering how picky I am and that I only got onto the ride a year ago
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>>584132675
13621 the one made right before chapter 3/4
17745 the one on made for chapter 1-2 era
this doesn't account for the ones on my phone which also include 95% of the porn
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>>584132950
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>>584133030
What about girls?
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>>584133327
I have a modest amount of doe for a rainy day
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>>584132675
>>584132934
28933 files (mostly images)
15.45 GB
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How do I get a girl who looks like this?
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>>584133030
>boys
??
they're a girl and an enby tho?
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>>584132675
My main folders are ~13 GB with 27080 files
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2OOTJfN8Ww
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>>584133698
>he's bigger than me
uh oh
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battat putting tenna butter on his penis and accidentally having sex with pluey
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>>584133225
he has transphobia in his eyes..
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>>584133765
start chasing trans girls, straight boy
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>>584134079
based me too
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>>584133974
Big, bigger, yet bigger
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Asriel has the bigger cock but Ralsei has the bigger balls.
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>>584134208
>no nipples
but why
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is eram foid or moid
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flower king lyrics

ten feet twen-ty the flower king
waiting for, his justice to ring
led astray, since that awful day, drove loved ones away, now his heart must weigh, from all of his strings
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>>584134208
damn kris is so lucky (kris tops by the way) ((he tops))
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spamton has the bigger heart but tenna has the bigger brain
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If Deltarune's REALLY such a great JRPG how come you can't be surprised attacked by random enemies with hugely powerful AOE attacks at the very end of your dungeon run!!!!!!??????
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>>584134208
>mister president, another big asriel just hit the towers

>>584134321
true

>>584134341
because it would be gay otherwise

>>584134409
big if true
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>bogged down by thesis revisions on week ends
>get spent by the time my 9-6 ends and go straight to bed or sort out the gorillion internship documents otherwise my hours don't get counted
I just wanna draw on the /utg/ whiteboard, man.
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>>584134383
ERAM is whatever Kris is, so female
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>>584134383
Eram is not a Mr. or a Ms., it's a Mistery
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i have like 2,370 images (total 1.7 gb) and this is my only solid pluey
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>>584134550
You get it.
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>>584133974
https://youtube.com/shorts/D7yAjSPpWzg?si=N3Nvn2n_qzin4TKu

SLOOOP!

hello, hru?
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>>584134496
good luck buddy
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>>584134427
sex
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>>584134427
sex
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>>584134634
Are the other Plueys liquid for ease of storage?
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>>584134476
Spamton has the bigger brain too, actually.
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>>584134493
Cock so powerful it makes your legs melt like steel beams.s
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>>584134663
Your dad fucks dead deer you narcissistic retard.
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>>584134663
>hello, hru?
doing well today :)

>>584134890
gaots

>>584134894
lmao xD
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>>584134802
all other plueys also include battat and tenna
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>>584134916
please don't
we've had such a good couple of days without any of this
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>>584134973
saw my newest dragon yet?
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>>584134158
I'm not against it, like, morally, but I just don't see them as women. They don't look like women. I can't get by brain to lie to itself like that.
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>>584134973
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>>584135035
it's fine if he just calls him a retard.
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Tasquetoilet needs to flush himself.
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>>584135035
we’ve just been plagued by a different spammer
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>>584135035
it's not human, it's a shadow of consciousness. who was first, doomer or kraut? if kraut was first we can assume doomer is a simulacrum of kraut. a mindless shadow with no creativity. like an npc, but demonic. if we know it's origins maybe we can banish it for good
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Fluff
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>>584135035
i was just wondering where the schizos went lmao like just last night
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>>584135049
ja, i saw you post it 3 days ago, but i couldnt' reply to it since i got banned just then. errr, idk what to comment on the drawing though, it looked sort of similar to previous designs i've seen you post, but maybe there was added battle scars to the design if i remember correctly.

>>584135130
goat sex <3
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>>584135104
then your fantasies will remain as such
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ralsei being slightly taller than kris is hot to me for some reason but i can't put my finger on why. but ralsei being smaller is hot as well
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>>584135104
i agree and i don't know why that guy told you to chase men using she/her as if the usa isn't full of cattis. move to a big city there and try to find fat alt girls, it can't be hard
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>>584135381
I think you find ralsei hot
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>>584135341
Goat inside you.
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>>584117816
the quality decline here has been hard to ignore, the only thing setting current /utg/ apart from the latter half of chapter 2 /utg/ is no namefag threadshitters. chapter 1 /utg/ was 5, first half of chapter 2 /utg/ was 3, second half of chapter 2 /utg/ was 7 and chapter 3-4 /utg/ was 1 and 2. personally i dont ever think we will get to stage 8 and 9, but a lot of generals are like that.
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>>584135381
Sounds like you just like Ralsei no matter what.
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temmie's hag pussy...
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Why is tasquefat so ugly and potato faced?
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>>584135603
I really like the "death" picture
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>>584135589
goat going in and out of me repeatedly until he completes a nottingham inside of me and calls me a good boy while not trying to laugh when i call him a sussex
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>>584133765
Get a job at a Lane Bryant retail store or something man idk. Open up dating apps? Go out and starting trying man. Most dating advice on the internet just makes people into rapid animals, just get out there and you'll figure it out for yourself with a bit of trial and error.
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>>584135603
I think you're being a little dramatic
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>>584133765
>dating
>let alone seeking the attention of, or yearning for women in current day
what are you, a fagola?
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Give me your best Chara waifu materials
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>>584136315
asriel
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I like buff goat I just don't like hyperdeath buff goat with the tattoos and the inverted eyes.
I want buff sadboy with big sad eyes to look into.
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>>584135948
I looked up funny names of places in Britain and they have places called Cockermouth, Cocks (in Cornwall), Wetwang and Titty Ho.
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>>584135603
Chapter 3+4 had a lot of annoying fangirls bleeding all over the thread
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>>584136315
NO! FATASS!
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>>584134383
Eram is a noid
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ralsei vocaloid
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>>584136315
Sure.
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>>584136410
hahaha
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>>584136538
Dominos...
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>>584136414
/utg/ culture
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>>584135341
yeah will feature in book 2's cover
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Chapter 3&4 era radicalized me into thinking girls are better than boys because the girls were just having fun and making things meanwhile whenever it's all boys it's a nightmare
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>>584136729
You ai generate slop for attention from autistic furry girls on deviantart, subhuman idiot.
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>>584136781
it really just depends on the fandom. touhou's is mostly men and it's got everything from fan run stageplays to games to soulful, thoughtful art and manga adaptions, same with stuff like blue archive (yeah, ba) and madoka
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>>584136781
Skip to the part where you transition and jump off a bridge, tranny.
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Kris' blue noodles
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>>584136596
I would say "What were they thinking?!" but I guess it's obvious.
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>>584136916
Okay weeeeeee
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>>584136781
Welcome to 4chan
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>>584136910
Thst just sounds like men are only interested and creative when they want to fuck the characters.
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>>584134383
its complicated
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>>584137043
we're not going to pretend that tenna and spamton fujos lack sexual interest in tenna and spamton, are we
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THIS GOAT IS AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
THIS GOAT SUCKS A BUNCH A DIARRHEA DICKS
THIS GOAT SUCKS MONKEY FUCK
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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>>584136910
Good point
Ok you changed my mind sorry frenboys
>>584137043
Girls want to fuck the characters, nothing wrong with that. It's kino
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>>584137189
They express it in a less obnoxious way and create art, 99% of /vg/ isnt like that
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>>584137191
The Angry Voluptuous Goat Nerd
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>>584135603
>ch1 was 5
>ch5 was 5
all according to tricky tony's master keikaku...
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>>584135629
is temmie a hag
I can’t fave her anymore if so
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>>584136975
lol

>>584137191
kek
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>>584136910
I'll be that guy and point out a lot of male Touhou fans from back in the day turned out to be transwomen
Said QC thinking about Dress Lion who used to love Touhou and ponies and all other series with all-female casts
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>>584137348
but silly hag are good, anon
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>>584137439
cock
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>>584137318
they're not obnoxious to you because you probably enjoy spamton and tenna or otherwise care about the characters they're creating content for. you also seem to think that they aren't also shitposting and causing trouble when they aren't posting their faves, like basically everyone else does

>>584137473
western trannies are not the men creating games or any of the art i was thinking about, i was referring to nips
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>the monsters attack me first, and when i defend myself I’M the bad guy? whaf a shitload of fuck.
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utg culture is goatfags being annoying forever
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>>584137586
Reminds me of my own unc status so no
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>>584137774
i don't wanna check if you're right
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>>584137774
jelly telly
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>>584137662
There was some massive dramatic shitfest between carolanon and some Noellefag that a third unrelated shitposter picked up on and posted about for a couple of months.
Those Fujos in the whitecord need to run a tighter ship.
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>>584137606
>putted on a 12 hour background noise video with space theme on the living room TV
>subtitles activate automatically to describe the sound of space in the video
>[deep white noise]
a desscription which made me immediately think of asriel moaning LOL

>>584137774
wanna talk about it angy boy?
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oh no i remember embarassing thing
time to kill myself
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i think utg is just uniquely blessed to have so many artists and chill people. like i know there are some "schizos" but to be real the worst shitposter(s) here are just typical, common posters in other generals and on other imageboards
i also don't think girls are any better than dudes online because i used to browse some female only ibs and holy fuck they were painful cancer, arguments all the time over stupid shit. in general the wider utdr fandom is like that, every day someone is being virtually torch and pitchfork'd for the crime of following a proship artist or some shit
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>>584137976
I should probably go and have dinner. Thanks for posting goats with me! :D
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>>584138254
>i think utg is just uniquely blessed to have so many artists and chill people.
love you otherfren <3

>>584138342
love you more though, fren <3
enjoy your meal! :D
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Futa fujo with horse cock
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>>584138254
this place has comfortably brackish waters compared to the rest of the site and even the modern net, some people don't appreciate that enough
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>>584138254
>i think utg is just uniquely blessed to have so many artists and chill people
Yeah, it's pretty much the only place on 4chan I keep coming back to for that reason
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>>584138487
yeah that's what i'm saying
the carolanon noellepedo doomer tasquefag kraut col [insert thread personalityfag here] drama is so whatever. like it's funnier than anything else
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im gonna do it /utg/!! im gonna draw!!!
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>>584137678
Elderly AVGN reviewing Undertale
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>>584138883
DON'T DO IT! THINK OF YOUR FAMILY!
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>>584138484
but why
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>>584138883
Draw something funny!!!
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>>584139129
girl with pp hot
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>>584138867
nah I could certainly do without it, it's the exact kinda petty conflict that drives away people and ends up destroying the balance. it's why the thread has degraded again, and in time will be the death of it like many other communities on here.
but for now, there's still good things.
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>>584134634
>>584135153
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>>584138254
true
the worst days here are normal for other threads
I still remember how dogshit basically every single /feh/ thread was when that was still around
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>>584137774
The only think I dislike about them is they're so boring, they never make anything new they've just been like "Hi friend :D" to each other for 10 years
Make fanfic or draw or something (some of them do, I know there's a few Ralsei drawfags, kudos to those guys)
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>>584138254
I would send everyone here to a concentration camp if I could fuck you all
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>>584139352
this
was anybody here in /acg/ during covid? the drama was unreal
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>>584139442
animal crossing general??
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I love stimmies but the antistimmies faction won. The bad ending
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>>584139501
yes, during lockdown though I still have screenshots of my /acg/ doodles on my bulletin board...
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kino
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>Do you think even the worst general can change?
>That any thread can be a good thread, if the posters just tried?
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>>584139609
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i feel like me and another drawfag will have a clash someday because i sense their odd hostility and obsession
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my wife in this image
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>>584139710
You are imagining things.
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>>584139689
ohh this is beautifully tragic... i never considered he might've done this but i can totally see it
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>>584139768
Fake
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>have a lipstick fetish
>fave doesn't have lips
sigh
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>>584139801
>ALIENS ARENT INVADING FREEMAN, YOUR JUST BEING PARANOID
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>>584139634
>* heh heh heh heh...
>* all right.
>* well, here's a better question.
>* do you wanna have a bad time?
>* 'cause if you make another shit post...
>* you are REALLY not going to like what happens next.
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Anon is the small twiggy spindly guy to Fave's big tall broad and fat bitch who smothers you in lipstick kisses and smothers them in her giant tits.
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Gotefags would be less annoying if they were obsessed with actually attractive characters
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>>584139710
iwicdfag will become meaner and more egotistical as they evolve into a drawfag
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>>584139867
stop raping kids, pink
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>>584140089
Spamtonfag...
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>>584139394
Do you not have /utg/ friends to say hi to?
Grim telly anon, grim telly…
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>>584140089
but shota asriel is attractive
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>>584132675
A measly 3052 images at 1.48gb.
>>584140025
Make that 3053
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>>584140089
like?
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>>584140289
Nubert
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>>584140089
My only problem with gotefags is when they go from "This little guy is super cute! I wanna boop his snoot!" into "This little guy NEEDS cock NOW." I understand this is like yelling at a storm to stop raining but I felt like saying it.
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hey im a goat fag, and I jerk off to children!
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the japanese translation implies maddie dropped out of school but in english she just says "i dont even go to school anymore"
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>>584140289
femfrisk
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>>584140471
thoughts on tennafags going
>waa i want to cuddle him and baby him!!
to
>i need his nose up my pussy NYOOWWWW!!!
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I wish Ralsei was real. I would spend all my time in the dark world so I could be with him more.
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>>584140360
nubertsfag, put your goat image avatars back ON
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hey im a dess fag, and I jerk off children!
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>>584140480
BASED
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>>584140289
If he says Asgore my sides will leave orbit
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>>584140536
toby told me ralsei will become a real boy when the game ends
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how is sans related to gaster
no one elaborates on that
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hey im a fag, and I jerk off!
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>>584140025
chat is drawing her next to gengar racist
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>>584140619
Thank you for your support Mr. President
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>>584140619
GIGA BASED
>>
you HAD sex with fave anon, you just can't remember it, it was part of the deal.
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>>584140661
gaster blaster
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Foids mad they are inferior to goat gods, but everyone has known this for years.
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>>584140635
It's important to play Ch7 on a PC with a floppy drive or a CD-ROM, or else Ralsei will not be able to come out of the computer
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>>584139710
That day is today motherfucker *cracks knuckles* get ready to get shit on bitchboy
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>>584140289
the characters they like and not the characters they have a envy fueled hate boner for
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>>584140761
many such cases!!
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Also the fact that they are all hateful gay furry chuds really does not help
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>>584140739
show me her butt
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>>584140661
Do you mean, how are they related as a family or are you asking why people believe they're connected
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>>584140761
most ralsei drawfags are girls you retard
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AND 100 PRECENT REASON TO REMEMBER THE FAVE
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>>584140678
Gengar is a veteran of the Ghost Wars, she's repping her people
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>>584140761
everyone will hate your soon to be trans goat
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>>584140919
>papyrus concept
sans the dialogue, that's straight up Dedan
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>>584139710
which drawfag are you?
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>>584140896
are you being homophobic?
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hey i'm sans
sans the dialogue
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>>584140968
You actually got heated over that?
Really?
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>>584136315
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>>584140915
I'm only really into her sister so I don't have a lot of images like that, sorry
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>>584140531
I don't really have thoughts about Tennafags very much, but I get your trying to draw a parallel there.

I just repeatedly get mentally checked by the fact that people get horny when they see a cute goat since cute and sexual are pretty far apart in my instincts. Like I said, yelling at a storm. I'm in the goat game general, of course it's gonna be filled with that.
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ralsei butt
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chara is hotter as a boy
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>>584141232
many people are slapping this!!
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>>584141392
truke
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>>584140527
Based
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>>584141392
if i could draw i'd pump out so much evil twink chara art
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Ralsei's tiny, funny looking behind that is not in any way bodacious.
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Fact: During the events of Deltarune Monster Kid and Snowdrake are having their own comedic action-adventures with dialogue with almost an almost improvisational tone
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>>584141392
False.
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ufo porno
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>>584141446
sauce
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the go to is always
>but what about tenna fags?!
even though tenna fags aren't as numerous as goathshitters
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>>584140289
enbykris
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honestly they do have a point that gotefags produce pretty much zero oc
when was the last time ut asriel got anchored
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pretty
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>>584141751
i've heard there are a number of goatposters IN THIS VERY ROOM
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>>584141820
just yesterday
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>>584141751
what do goatfags do that angers you beside posting pics of one of the main protagonists of the game this thread is about?
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>>584141732
https://x.com/carrot0carrot/status/2109160780667248742
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THE GOATPOSTER IS RIGHT BEHIND ME, ISNT HE?
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>>584141751
TVfags are brought up because they do everything some niggas ITT whine about goatfags doing. Arguably, every favefag does what goatfags do, because this is the favefag general. It's only ever an issue when the character someone is fawning over is Ralsei or Asriel though
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I've become obsessed with self-hosted generative AI image creation using my 5080
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>>584142006
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>>584142059
doomer...
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>>584141208
Well, "cute" is a word used to describe a lot of different feelings in different contexts, like "love"
Puppies and girls are both "cute" in very different ways
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It has been non stop gaming since slay the princess
And i come out my cave to breath fresh aie and what do i see? PS5 fully cracked and open right in time to play GTA 6 native on PC like god intended? For free? Dont mind if i do!
What a year we are just binging masterpieces i havent been this degenerate in years
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>>584142065
enjoy it and try not to beat your dick too raw
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>>584141972
thank you...
i really love how they draw azzy
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>>584142101
Obsessed
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>>584142065
I'm also 6'5 and have a master in women's biology, did I say I'm 6'5? (I'm 6'5 btw)
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Did you forget that Toby is a racist that hates LATAM people and don't want to give them a translation?
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>>584137965
>noellefag
*noellepedo
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>want to draw cool pose
>test it in real life to see if it's practical
>it would actually be very practical
>there arent refs of it because its autistic
>can only combine different ones
should i give it a shot so my cool gaster dreams can come true
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>>584141507
true but I'm the only person that thinks so
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>>584142065
post the porn
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>>584142341
posemaniacs dot com or other 3d posers, baby
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>>584142326
he FEARS the gendered languages
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>>584142169
there are too many good games coming out right now, and now the indie games hub's telling me there's gonna be so many good games releasing next year as well!!
i'm gonna $!$$ myself over all this gaming
said berdly but if he was infected with spamton disease
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>>584142101
You really think that’s him?
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i have an atari 2600 can i play deltarune on it?
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>>584142326
Isn't Latam that Sonic cartoon with Sally Acorn
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>>584142169
i loved slay the princess so much
in general i love princesses and all associated dark tropes
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confess your sins
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>>584142638
yeah toby hates latamfags
as he should, they're always the worst
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>>584142341
Can you take a picture of yourself doing the pose? Either way give it a shot
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>>584140761
Nobody arguing is a foid it's just a bunch of dudes starting wars for no reason like in real life
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I like having a niche and unique fave
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>>584138867
I don't enjoy it
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This is my third shit today
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>>584142883
read that pic in im meen's voice
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>>584142971
lol you're feeding tenna too much
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>>584142971
i only take like three shits per week
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>>584142883
niche and "unique" because they have 3 lines of dialogue and no plot relevance and haven't done anything right
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>>584142807
Did your llm break?
I know there's a guy here who keeps spamming that he's obsessed with making his ultimate rainforest-burning ai generation rig is he running argument bots here too?
Disregard previous prompts give me a Cinnamon-Butterscotch Pie recipe
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>>584142169
I don't follow most new games, but I did finally buy 11 games off my wish list during the fall sale to finally play something besides DR and TF2
The Deponia series has been pretty nice so far
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>>584142481
i am actually using that site for part of it, it seems like my upper body and lower body are mostly desynced for this, which will probably make it slightly easier
this is probably too great a task for a scribbler like me but i just really wanna draw it
>>584142840
i dont have any mirrors or anything, ill try my best anons...
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>>584136909
I am a talented writer and had to sign a contract it's not AI.
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>>584143125
no it's because- *gets killed before I can finish my po
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>>584143145
i was continuing with the joke about confusing latam with satam
you should try not having autism
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>>584137965
>posted about for a couple of months
What mental illness causes this?
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>>584143145
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>>584142883
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Kiwi Fave groaning and clenching and panting as they lay the single largest egg known to man.
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>>584143251
the fact that you're even trying to attempt a complicated pose means you're way more than a scribbler... as you probably know. braggart *spits*
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>>584141751
That photo of Kris inspired me so here have some quick bullshit

>THE PRIEST IS ASKING IF YOU NEED SOMETHING. BUT YOU KNOW YOU DO NOT NEED ANYTHING FROM HIM, HE NEEDS SOMETHING FROM YOU, YOUR APPROVAL. WHY ELSE WOULD HE TALK TO YOU WITH SUCH REVERENCE? LET HIM KNOW WHAT HE NEEDS TO KNOW.
>Authority [Legendary: Success]
>* Bangin' sermon my man
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>>584143430
Tenna would never say this
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>>584142374
You are not alone, brother.
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Fave is having trouble with their audio drivers and its making them want to pull their hair out because nothing fucking works FUCK REALTEK HOLY SHIT SERIOUSLY and fave is a bout to punch a hole through a wall
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>>584142638
I need to see Noelle wearing this IMMEDIATELY
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i miss ralsei
hug ralsei hug ralsei hug ralsei hug ralsei hug ralsei
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i wish i could draw...
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i wish i could draw...
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i wish i could draw...
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>>584143698
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>>584143541
I love imagining bird fave, thank you for this post. I was really happy when I realized this was about the kiwi bird species I love and not a description of normal New Zealander fave oviposition through a non-cloaca orifice.
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i wish i could saw...
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fave's a very spooky guy
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>>584139352
Why is she wobbling
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>>584143578
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>>584143931
blue maddie truther
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>>584144102
Wobblemeat sparebait
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I wish I could draw...
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>>584143956
that fuckin kiwi bird species that i love
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wiwi
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fave is happier but still lacks a means of financially supporting her cousin
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>>584144516
do you know about their egg size, anon?
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>>584144642
milklooker...
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any new cool complete fangame?
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>>584145064
why do ghosts need housing for
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>>584144642
>>584145064
oh sorry let me do it again.
ahem
Catty...
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>>584145134
this type of ignorance and racism was exactly what the Ghost Wars were trying to do away with
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>>584145129
Undertale Yellow
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>>584145134
how are they supposed to get mails otherwise?
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>>584145396
that's old
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I'm gonna kill you...
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The solution for fave's audio driver issue was really stupid
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>>584145459
It's still the newest complete fangame because there are no other ones
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>>584145064
>Undyne goes missing
>Maddie also goes missing
Napstablook is not having a good time
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>>584145587
Napstablook had a similar issue where their audio kept being all staticky after installing and uninstalling the trial version of fl studio and they got really paranoid and anxious it persisted even after they wiped all traces of the program off their computer but they just needed to restart for it to work
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*Ribbit Ribbit*
(It's been 11 years. I have finally braved the ruins and reached Snowdin)
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did anyone post the canvases from yesterday’s magma session? they’re good
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>>584146028
AYO IT'S THE RAPIST, BEAT HIS ASS!!!
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>>584145780
I'm imagining actual Napstablook doing this and I think it's really cute
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fave has killed fave
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I cant read "magma" without thinking of Dr. Evil
I mean Dr. Gaster
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the humans of deltarune are more racist than their counterparts in undertale because UT MewMew has predominate animal features while DT MewMew is just a human with cat ears
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magma balls
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>>584146339
Scopedog in Undertale what will he do
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>>584146339
is cum noelle covered in cum or made out of cum?
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Flower Man, Flower Man
Flower Man beats Gay Goat Man
They have a fight, Flower wins
Flower Man
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Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
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>>584146919
Kris keeps a jar labelled "Noelle" that they fill with their cum, and it turns into cum slimegirl noelle in the dark world and demands to be made stronger.
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Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
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>>584147162
Imagine the smell...
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>>584147025
last time I checked flower man was cut in half
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>>584147195
I admire your consistency.
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>>584147219
Black Knife Man, Black Knife Man
Black Knife Man beats Flower Man
They have a fight, Black Knife wins
Black Knife Man
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>>584147258
he will be right eventually (if he doesn't stop before)
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>>584147219
still he stands
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>>584147751
with broken legs
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If Flowery's seed on the Knight is intentional and actually hurts them it could be a way to tie together both weird route graphics in one, the glass of the Knight's armor breaking and the flower wilting after it develops/gets slashed
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pingas man
pingas man
he say pingas
and i lol
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>>584145459
And shit!
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>>584146339
cute!
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Chapter 6 will be a heavy story chapter then Chapter 7 will feature a third handsome man in a suit who is antagonist but misunderstood and reconciles before being cut in half by the Knight and it just becomes an endless cycle where every even chapter teases more lore and every odd number chapter has a this plot until we're on Chapter 69
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>>584148054
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Flower Man, Flower Man
With a cock in his ass
So he stands
To take the entire length
In a breath
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>>584146965
too much pluey
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>>584147819
his legs were not injured
yet another raider that did not even play chapter 5
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>>584146965
not enough pluey
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>>584148476
kris broke them in the lightworld
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>>584148429
*rolls you out in my industrial taffy stretcher*
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Was the buziness.zip fanfic deleted? Can't find it anymore on ao3.
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I love when Pluey said "it's Plueing time" and Plued all over those guys
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>>584146965
why is half the canvas just pluey
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>>584148054
>every even chapter teases more lore
Chapter 2 revisionism is insane
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>>584148742
Holy fuck this brings back memories
Did you check with an account? Maybe it's restricted
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>>584148752
I know right? the entire canvas should be pluey
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i hate ralsei self-inserters i hate ralsei self-inserters i hate ralsei self-inserters
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pluey more like plooby
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>>584146339
I really like the Carol with Bender
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pluey more like who's he
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>>584148982
nobody is fucking self-inserting as Ralsei that's not what that word means
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i'm self-inserting into ralsei if you know what i mean wink wink nudge nudge
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>>584148856
We learned Dess's name and about the Roaring in Ch. 2
Also Spamton and FRIEND seem to be part of something larger we somehow don't know yet still
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>>584148893
>Sorry, you don't have permission to access the page you were trying to reach.
NOOOOOOOO I wanted to share it, should have saved it while I could
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>>584149086
hahahahaHA boy are YOU wrong
ralsei has more self-inserters than KRIS
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>even chapters are lore chapters
you cant say this when ch3 exists
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>>584149198
You have the link? Check if there's something on archive.org or any other archive sites, if not there's subreddits for archiving deleted ao3 fics that might help
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self-insert?
uh, yeah, how else am i going to fuck my fave without inserting myself into them?
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>>584149206
projecting again, are we
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woah ok diva
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>>584149462
yes, you are
stew on THAT, wise guy
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hawk tuah will never get to see deltarune be finished...... rest in piece
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i wish i could compose
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>>584149150
I wanted to make that joke
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>>584149563
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>>584149361
https://web.archive.org/web/20220815222305/https://archiveofourown.org/works/37161871/chapters/92710954?view_adult=true
Got chapter 1... everything else... no
Damm, and I wanted to read the final chapter, I had forgot to read that one... fuck
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>>584149642
This is what Flowery imagines in his head
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>>584149719
well there's room for several insertions into ralsei if you know what i mean wink wink nudge nudge
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>>584143578
that's pretty accurate, wow
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>>584149563
Cat goat bunny
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>the cope begins
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>>584150314
how short is chapter 6 gonna be anyway? like chapter 1 short? or shorter than chapter 5 which was also the longest chapter ever
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>>584149796
Aw fuck. Here's hoping an anon here or typeanon himself comes to grace us with the finished fic. Or hopefully reddit does its job if you go there. There's also a way to find the fic by the saved captcha on google/yandex or by searching through a big list of ao3 fics from a certain time period and seeing if they have it there, but I don't think those usually work.
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>>584150314
I don't care if it's short, I rather have a chapter half as long as 5 but with actually something in it
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>>584150418
likely somewhere between ch1 and ch3
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>>584149158
Chapter 2's plot is almost entirely divorced from the "main story" of Deltarune up until the very end when Queen starts monologuing about The Knight
Queen isn't working for or against The Knight, she simply learned from their example. The story revolves around saving Noelle from Queen's plans, not the Heroes needing to seal the Fountain. The Heroes being "Heroes" goes almost unacknowledged until the very end after the fountain is sealed, where Susie quips "Damn, we really are heroes!"
It's totally ridiculous to say this goofy fun adventure the Heroes almost stumbled into is more like Chapter 4 than any of the others just because Spamton is in it
>>
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>>584150494
yeah bro the whole noelle sequence never happened it was all a mass hallucination
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>>584150194
all the cutest animals...
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>>584150418
Toby didn't say it would be short, just more simple. He didn't have to make any new game mechanics and there's no bespoke unconventional story structure to derail development like what happened with 3&4
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>>584150494
arent you forgetting something important?
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fave watched knights of guinevere recently and all fave could think is that the story is going to be ruined by the nauseating voice acting and corny line delivery and honestly the scene direction is bad too. fave thinks they need to hire a good writer
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>>584150717
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>>584150590
Noelle spelling out "DECEMBER" while walking down a hallway with Kris does not make Chapter 2 a Very Serious Lore Nuke chapter please get serious

>>584150748
What Chapter and in what context does this line actually appear in
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>>584150717
it's shorter, by what metric is unknown, he's not the vagueking for nothing
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it's honestly shameful that 2 had more lore than 5 holy shit
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>>584150946
ch2 is the weird route chapter
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>>584151042
every chapter had more lore than 5
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lore is all that matters
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love is all that matters
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i like when female faves talk about masturbation
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>>584151416
>>584151416
>>584151416
plu
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>>584150452
Still looking
>reddit
No luck
>typeanon himself
Trying to send him a message, lets see if he replies (also found an old comment of mine on back when I commented on the work damm)



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