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i dont get it. why not just bring fighters in land battles. almost everything dies in 1-2 missiles whats even the point of attackers and multiroles except special missile types?
is this maybe a teaser for something?
>>584127181In campain? best fighter you have is the correct choiceIt only matters in online when damage variation is a huge deal and you need 2 missiles to kill a regular AA gun while attackers will kill 10 in a sin gle UGB
>how /aceg/ sounds like when they talk about Online
BEEN STUCK ON MISSION 5 FOR 2 DAYS
>>584127597how
>>584127446That's the most rollslop image I've ever seen in my life.I bet the dev team is Sotoan. Those nomads love games where you do nothing but move around.
>>584127597How?
>>584127007Sex with Kate in the cockpit of an Su-34
>>584127446I thought nobody liked CV2.
>>584127597just prioritize targets. basically orange targets or the ff:attacker planeshelicoptershowitzerstanksapcs
>>584125436>a level 20 one would actually be even fucking worse than Barricaders areBarricaders are better in every way stat wise and get a decent amount of skills that buffs regular missiles.Pretty sure it enables them to 2shot with STD
I don't know what to level now. What's a nice Multirole? I might LASM max with the F18/F
I shot down a guy in a F18C with guns three times in the same match, at what point it becomes bullying?
>>584127949>He wasted general plans on the worst plane in the game
>>584128006When they start saying><<Tell my mom and dad I->>
>>584127648I love rollslop specifically aileron rollslop, from Emmeria
>>584127817They both get air damage and a +missile ability. If Barricader's second +missile ability lets it hit a damage breakpoint that is good, but Growler will have better missiles in every way other than damage from its super ESM ability.I guess the ultimate combo would be Barricader with full missile abilities and then a Growler who has ESM ones to buff it even more. Or maybe there's some fighter that gets two missile abilities, I can't remember. Either way, Growler in full buffbot mode would probably make its entire team cancer to fight (even more than IEWS already does) so I'm glad not many people have bothered levelling them.
>>584127618>>584127658I TRY TO PROTECT THE LCACS BUT THEY ALL DIE
How do you even dogfight with gun in this game? Is it easier with controller or something
>>584128579Controller in general is easier than all other control modes for everything in AC.
>>584128093It's one of my favourite birds, I don't care if she's shit. My girl deserves it.
>>584128682>>584127949based fulcrum enjoyer
>>584127949The 18E fucks.
>>584128456I FOCUS ON HELICOPTERS THEN LOSEI TRY TO GET SOME LAND TARGETS DESTROYED AND LOSEI TRY TO TAKE OUT PLANES AND LOSEI TRY TO IGNORE ENEMIES AND FOCUS ON TARGETS AND I LOSEWHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
>>584128968Stop going slow
Did anyone make sense of Emergency Sorties yet?
>>584128968In this game, you have to fly like the wind.
>>584129146Cope...
>>584128968Prioritize helos and *attackers* before ground targets. And be quick about it.
>>584128579Just keep the button pressed and send that shit flying, one of them are bound to connect.
>>584128642Damn how am i supposed to do the gun-only run on keyboard with the shadows around
>>584128968Sounds like you're going slowI would recommend learning how to handle your plane, angles of attack, and how to plan a routeAlso some planes are more of a threat to the LCACs than others, focus those and ignore the rest if you have other targets to deal with
>>584128784I will absolutely be painting her in the level 80 skin when I finally unlock it.
>>584129146>>584129045FAST DOING WHATWHAT
>no valley or tunnel runWhat gives? There's missions that have valleys but I'm talking cape rainy assault from 7 or weapons of mass destruction from 6.
>>584129519just point and click with your infinite machinegun ammo bro
>>584129645><<[mongolian throat singing]>>
I need a bright red circle and TGT to tell me what to shoot.Threat assessment? What are those?
y'know, I just realized that the assault records are incomplete because it doesn't feature the other enemy squadrons like the Sharks, Gemma, Ventus or those two Red squadron units from M13
>>584129753tbf there is a frustrating section later in the campaign that gives you TGTs but then fails you because other enemies also shoot the thing you're tard guarding
>>584129651Maybe they're saving it for the DLC missions.
I'M GOING AS FAST AS I CAN AND STILL LOSING ALL SHIPS
>>584127446Dude on the left looks like toprak.Actually toprak would make a killer souls invader NPC wouldn't he?
>>584127446>>584127648hmm
>>584128452>both get air damageBarricader doesn't. The last two abilities on each plane's list aren't in the game
>>584130129GO FASTER>shoot helicopters (easiest targets and high level threat)>shoot attackers (Su-25s mostly)>shoot howitzers taking potshots at your dudes>shoot APCs and tanks when they get close to shore>phase 2>shoot helicopters>shoot F-2s
>>584130129You can probably go fasterPost clips or streams or images or something to give us a better idea of what's going on, I promise nobody will laugh
>>584127580Actually I'm the rapist because I have a level 18 morgan.
Level up something or go for a new plane?
>>584130824Hope deleted...
I know it was a meme plane, but I miss the Starfighter. The fishbed gets to come back, why can't the F104C?
>>584128968You wouldn't happen to be flying an A-10, would you? Also you probably have awful angles of attack and are simply shooting missiles as soon as you have a lock without thinking about the enemies movement.
>try to get my dailies done>enter match>two picrel errors in the loading screen>stuck in a black screen that forces me to ALT F4>relaunch>same thing happens againI am not fond of this humiliation ritual
This scene gave me *some* hope for humanity as a whole.
>>584130969Lol my stupid cell phone grabbed the wrong screenshot
>>584131021>RevancedBro your Morphe?>>584130858Gripen a cuteYou'll also want to pick up a Growler or Barricader to round out your roster at some point
>>584127949>maxed out his jetfu regardless of le meta status honestly me but with the F-16. I don't care man, I like what I like in any online competitive game. Fuck unskilled meta slaves
>>584131150Good idea, i'll get an ECM plane
>>584130129You're missing something buddy. It shouldn't be that hard.
>>584130989>happens for the third time but this time with a twist
It's actually fucking ridiculous that LAAMs turn faster than HVAAs while moving slightly slower (letting them make way tighter turns) and having way more rangeFucking things have QAAM-tier homing abilities now
>>584131382NO I DON'T WANT TO END THE GAME
>>584131496LAAM nerf soon.
HOLY SHIT I FINALLY GOT TO PHASE 2 THANKS FOR THE VAGUE TIPSI HOPE I NEVER HAVE TO ESCORT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN
>>584131808ngmi
Lmao
>>584131808
>>584131808>I HOPE I NEVER HAVE TO ESCORT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN
>>584131808lol
>I CAN'T GET PAST MISSION 6
For real tho, this game has waaaaaay to many escort/defend missions
>>584131382Can't even enter practice mode. Guess I'm not playing today.
>>584131936>>584131945I think the later ones are easier just by virtue of the fact you have better planes by that point.
I miss the Darkstar, it was so fun to fly around and be fast enough to dodge the waiapolo missiles by turning slightly.
>>584132142If he can't figure out Mission 5 with the planes he had, better planes might not solve his issue
Did mission 15 and 16 today...I guess I probably did better than most doing 15 in like 3 tries? The first two mainly learning it...Also I couldnt help but smile at the XO trolling you over your impromptu mission 16 at Selatapura
Besides ticking off weekly challenges, is there any particular reason to have an attacker or fighter over a multi-role in online?
>>584132313they aren't as efficient at clearing
>think im flying up>crash into ocean
>>584132385I actually crashed into the ocean in the mission accomplished segment just now, oops
>>584132385Get your IFR nugget
>>584132142I was using the starter/preorder planes up until mission 15 when I unlocked the F-22. You could beat the game with just the starter if you're not bad.
Never thought I'd manage to get this one. Let alone on an MVP win
So missile speed is a bait stat that makes your shit miss?
>>584132804No, why would it be, the faster your missile gets to the target the better because they have less time to maneuver out of the way.
How would you nerf or balance LAAM in MP? They can stay the same in SP. I would nerf their homing, it really shouldnt be hitting AI fighters front aspect at odd angles when the majority of missiles can't do this.
>>584132919The faster a missile is, the faster it'll know where it isn't
>>584132919because they're worse at turning from the speed
>i saw an a-10 do that pugachev cobra into a kulbit or whatever those shadow planes 22 do to bullshit evade your missileskono... what the fuck is this shit....
>>584133559The AI needs to be tweaked to match player planes. The AI's F-2's outmanuever the player's.
>>584132919>ReactLmaoas if everyone isn't perma turning
>>584133559For fun, try doing the first mission and assign Tasha all sorts of insanely slow and unmaneuverable planes
I played deathmatch for 4 hours, probably like 60 matches. I got 5 scrambles and not a single emergency sortie. fucking done until they fix this shit or I'm just the unluckiest fucker on the planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhzbsFUL6Bs
>>584130858I want to get new plons but the roster is so anemic. I'd give my left kidney for a Harrier, or ASF-X, or Tornado, or MiG-35, or even a prop plane.
>>584133864One day I can have no scrambles or emergency sorties for a dozen hours, and then the next day get one every hour. It's far too random.
>Almost a million zogbucks already
Scrambles should have a minimum and maximum time, so you're guaranteed a scramble within either 90 minutes and 120 minutes, or something similar.
Why the fuck is Shamrock even allowed to pilot a plane after receiving news that his family had died.
>>584133139I asked about this in a previous thread and never got a response. Has it been tested whether or not this is how it works in this game? I know that's how it was in ACI, but it could've been changed since. I would assume the best part combo for standard missiles would be both T1 and T2 of Guidance, Lock-on, and Speed. However, Lifetime (Range) might be better than speed if faster missiles have a wider turning radius, which would be counteractive to Guidance.
Has anyone figured out a canon aircraft run plane list / mission restrictions?
>>584134049Go outside.
>>584133041Nerf lock-on range to 8KNerf speed by 33%Nerf Damage by 15% (2 shots for red planes, one tapping everything else.)Increase duration by 66% to offset speed nerf (It won't turn around and hit someone, but it will be able to chase anything flying away from it)
>>584127007Kate frens won biglyTasha x Coster came trueJoker Squad's FUCKING
>>584134253not tested but imo guidance and range are the best stats.I assume guidance will make it turn better and not drop target while range enables more 360s.I can't see how speed would help you unless you're using HV or smt
>>584134540Ya think Tasha and Coster......?
Queue for Alicorn and it throws me in a 4 man game after two minutes & one dumbass flying a Morgan instead of an attacker fuck you fuck you fuck you
>>584134627>youngest members of the squad>spend the most time togetherDuh
I think Coster's music SUCKS.
>>584134253In 7 missile flight speed was a bait stat. Turn rate is expressed in degrees per second, increasing flight speed means wider turns for the same turn rate.That's why HVAAs had insane turn rate stats on paper, but required you to pay a bit of attention to hit. Their turning circle was massive.
>>584134545Those were my thoughts too regarding range over speed. Speed would be useful somply for not getting your kills stolen. Across both ACI and ACO I've experienced planty of times where I fire missiles at something and someone else steals the kill with a faster missile despite not being as close to the target as I was. If faster missiles somehow don't get a wider turn radius, then I would think speed is better.
>>584134627>>584134683I always felt a more sibling dynamic from them, personally. Rex and Kate are absolutely fucking though. Closest AC will get to outright romance with the player and that's fine.
How the hell do you form parties in this game? Add someone through the menus then invite them to join you? Steam lobby links? I want money from scrambles and sorties >>584134049 but no clue how this works
>>584134264You can reasonably do every mission with the Bug/Superbug I thought?
>>584135043Social > party > create party > invite players > friend list or squadron > select player > invite to partyAll the menuing fucking sucks
>>584134627Tasha and Coster are attached at the hip. On your next campaign replay watch them in cutscenes, they're always together. During the concert she's literally dancing at the front of the crowd, as close as possible to Coster playing bass without being on stage.They're never going to get the smell out of Joker Squad's staterooms.
>>584135043You need to go 5 layers deep to create a party, then inviting someone is as easy as clicking on their name and then inviting them. Then that person needs to go 5 layers deep to accept it. Whoever designed the multiplayer UI is either wildly incompetent or a malicious piece of shit.
did online just die?
>go outside for a walk>a gust of wind hits my face>hortus regis alti starts playing in my headI think I got brain damaged by this game
>>584135345it was dead before it even happened
>>584135367You're on the path to becoming an ace pilot
>>584134253I think range means lock angle in this game.
>>584135367I see nice clouds now and think "Cloudly"
>>584135367Ghost ace dick hit you in the face
at least the S rank is much mor forgiving than i all the other series
>>584135536had to be considering the AI is way better at killing your allies if you don't tunnel TGTs
>>584127597This guy is NOT surviving rocky island
>Get 50 sorties in the 47 without realizing it>Title is Next-Gen FighterI don't know why this is so funny to me
Going away from home for a few days and saw picrel was on sale. Is it worth it or does it run like shit?
>>584135536I'd go as far to say it's too easy desu. I S-Ranked most missions on my first playthrough and only didn't on missions where I checkpoint reset.
larptard obliterated
>>584132034It has not enough air to air missions I'll give you that. M28 doesn't count as bombers don't even try to avoid your missles, they might as well be ground targets.
>>584135649It does feel like it's way easier to fuck up escort missions in this one
>>584135969This is why Mihay had invincibility frames.
>>584135969Woooah ooooack.......
50 fucking dollars for 1 aircraft in online?
>>584136030The plane was his body
>>584135872Runs surprisingly well.
>>584136030And he sucked for it. The Sol 1 fights all sucked
>>584132604I used F18C until Shadow 22, but then got filtered there and swapped to F22. Probably could've done it with F18C now that I know the real trick was to have the gun part.
>>584135991Which is why m18 is the best despite Mary Sue being there. Comona keeps winning.
>>584135872https://youtu.be/WznKKwSBeHc?t=548
Full parties of EA-36s, SU-57s, Rafales, F-22s, etc, are being matched against solo low tier players in warfare.Fuck off Project Aces. Get a grip and set up rotating cost limits. PVP is nothing but faggots partied up to abuse dull meta shit.
>>584135268It's 100% malicious. The 'dev's vision' is playing with complete strangers every time. They don't want teams capable of communicating via third party VoIP to be accessible, having fun, and dominating. You MUST use the shitty canned phrase text chat that everyone in a match is going to ignore. You WILL stand around in the lobby doing nothing instead of editing your loadouts or planning your unlocks on the tree.
>>584136285There should always be a niche for lower tier planes in multiplayer. Maybe lotteries on what tier of plane you can fly, and you get automatic money just for flying low tier.
>>584134264I think Rex should already have changed to the F-18E for mission 20 at least
>>584136285I'm a bit surprised I've managed to dodge the roving rape gangs in Warfare so far despite finding them 24/7 in Assault.I have no idea how this shit matchmakes
>>584135969>Indiana Jones shooting swordsman.gif
>>584135536And yet you see a massive amount of complaints about difficultyThe ceiling sort of stayed the same since we have better control options, but the floor jumped up a lot and it's filtering alot of people if my twitter is anything to go by
Are SPW online affected by plane and class damage? Or for example does a UGB do the same damage regardless, fighter or attacker.
>>584136406Matchmaking uses DS2 style Zoll memory brackets.
>>584136285>Muh metaImo 1v1 and maybe 2v2 are fine There simply isn't anything there to make 4v4 feel great
>beat moon 11>wanted to fly low between the buildings>crashed right before the mission accomplished notificationwhoops
Is it just me, or is PvP in Ace Combat 8 just fundamentally shite? Like, moreso than a Call of Duty title or that Battlefield 6 abomination from last year, with their "Gunsmith" systems (AKA; endless predatory grind disguised as deep customization, designed to keep you playing and raise the chances of you shelling out more cash for the battlepasses, while only serving to funnel all gameplay styles into one category of "build the fastest shooting, fastest ads, most accurate gun with the biggest extended mag possible"`). It definitely needs to be in the game so any potential fags looking to have their new, endless low skill grind that gives a false sense of superiority for playing within the meta will spend more money, but I don't see it as something fixable. There will only ever be two or three "good" planes that are meta, and the time-gated grind completely walls off anyone with a genuine sense of fun from enjoying dogfights. The best possible move Bamco's AC Online team could make would be leaving PvP on life support and focusing all their clearly meager resources on beefing up the co-op. Let the mexicans and fags have their gay club. 90% of their fun comes from messaging each other after games to talk shit in the form of thinly veiled homosexual flirting, anyway. The co-op could be incredible. The pvp will always be trash.
>>584134540It is my headcanon that I'm fucking Tasha, Kate, Jackpot 9, the nurse from the start of the game and maybe even Shilage's granddaughter.Nagase is still hot for a 43 year old, but I wouldn't do Blaze dirty like that.
>>584136462>twitter>in 2026so you're factoring the opinions of genuine retards and drug addicts into your evaluation of this game's difficulty?
>>584136818Trust me, you don't want 1v1. Every match would just be a stat check and whoever has the better plane wins. A meta will form almost immediately and then every match just becomes permanent turn and burn ending in a draw unless someone falls asleep or gets distracted by something else and makes a mistake.
>>584136945>arcade game>pvp modeit's bound to be shit, the fun part of the game is blowing green squares up as a flying ufo that looks like a fighter jet, facing off against other UFO fighter jets isn't fun. The only way to make pvp fun in this game is curated limited lobbies with frens.
>>584127007>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 ESTThis even still a thing?
>>584136462>twitterYou need to switch to BlueSky. Twitter is run by genuine nazis that want to genocide the whole planet.
At this point all I want is just a co-op mode that has Warfare's respawning waves across the map and you all need to just keep fighting until the timer goes off. Score is based on however many points you get
Did Rex get demoted to WSO cause of the Drinwich fiasco?
>>584137408>blueskyhow's your neovagina sister?
>>584136945The game was not built for pvp, fundamentally. It's just not that kind of game.
>>584136373Online should've had a tree for aircraft instead of just rank and zoll. Hell, add aircraft specific challenges too so ADHD addled retards can't just rush the end game aircraft and have to use the full roster to get what they want. e.g.Mirage 2000 challenges:- Sortie 10 times- Destroy 200 ground targets- Destroy 75 aircraft (NPC or Player)and completing the list unlocks the Rafale for purchase.
as a newbie i'm surprised AC8 doesn't have a coop mode for the campaign. Would the difficult just break if you had humans controlling your wingmen?
>>584137408>You need to switch to BlueSkyYOU MEAN SWITCH TO BLUESKYHOOOOOOOOME
>>584137746THE MILES ALOOOOOOOONE
>>584129753This fails when an AA gun is not considered a mission critical objective while you're shepharding helicopters. A SAM site is, but you'd think both would be?
>>584137598There are aircraft specific rewards tho
>>584137786I'VE FELL AND FLOWN
>>584137408
>>584137412I can honestly see why this isn't a thing in co-op assault. I would quit so much more if I was forced to sit in a lobby for an extended period with someone using one of the planes that can delete the entire map faster than my off-meta plane can reach the targets. The way to fix "Co-op Assault", in my opinion, is just to add like 25% more targets to each sortie, and make it so people not using an LAAM have the ability to engage with the "middle chunk" segments of each mission where fighters show up. The UAV jamming option is a good example, but even that should have fighters along with ground targets. Your idea should be its own game mode entirely. They should have a lot more co-op offerings in general.
>>584136462Been watching my buddy try to play this game (he never played the series before) and forcing him to learn on expert controls. He gets all pumped up when he manages to pull off some basic maneuvers and it's fun to watch him learn
>>584136945Deathmatch and TDM are an afterthought. The game is clearly built for Co-op Assault and Warfare, and it shows.
>>584132604I am bad though
>>584136945PvP in Ace combat is inherently bad because the nature of the gameplay has an incredibly low skill cieling. They absolutely should've focused on improving and adding to the co-op experience from ACI instead of just copy pasting it and calling it a day. Something like what someone posted earlier, a rogue-lite PW style conquest or even just a progressively more difficult set of randomized missions would've been ideal.
>>584137408>Xitter is a complete shithole where the biggest retards get paid for baiting people alongside bots everywhere>Bluesky is Tumblr 2 in some of the more annoying waysGod I wish there was a decent social media site. I hate the modern internet.>>584137932Well no that's why you need to flood the whole map with targets. Make it so no one person can just clean sweep a sector.
Well, that's done. I don't even feel like playing the dailies any more now that the Ace Pass grind is over, but I guess I still got planes I'd like to level.
>>584137408>BlueskyNigger, just don't use any social media. Best choice I've ever made
>>584137856I know, but I don't have to grind the Fishbed to get to the Foxhound do I? I can just buy the MiG-31 and become a LAAM MiGger right away.
>>584137163Yeah but who cares it should be like 7 and I should be able to 1v1 someone if I wantIt's not my fault ace combat was never designed for pvpHell we had pvp weapons in the PLSL and EML and they're both gone
>>584136984It's my headcanon that I fuck Tasha on the mess hall table right in front of her father every single day
>>584138227The pulse laser was very effective in single player gameplay though?
>>584136984>SpoilerShe's asian, 43 is barely worn in
>>584138083A fleshed out PW conquest style Usea hopping mode with saveable progress for you and your buddies would be fucking sweet.
>>584138094>Make it so no one person can just clean sweep a sector.I personally can see the fun in the light-pvp elements of Assault. Being a better pilot with better pathing and game sense does feel good when dominating an Assault match, for me at least. I maintain that a game mode where there's a time limit and endless targets would be fun as its own thing.
>>584137967Yeah it gives perspective to how different people are experiencing this gameIll be curious once the game dies down to see completion ratesIt's not that this game gets dull in the middle, I think it starts remarkably quaint and goes batshit when you take down the first battleshipAnd I wonder if that's enough to filter most people And don't get me started on people who settle for checkpoint wins
>>584137408bait this cheap gets bites in 2026 lol
>>584138125>Don't use any social mediaHow the fuck else am I going to check for daily li'l bee fanart
It's not worth it going after other players in 1v1. Unless they're ground pounding and you can surprise them in a single merge, I don't bother. This isn't a realistic simulator PVP just turns into who has the faster more maneuverable plane that can turn into the other guy.If it's a 2v1 then it's always in your favor. The focused targeting ESM buff your missiles get when two or more guys are locked on the same guy are insane. They can't compete one guy will bait and the other one can make longer passes and drop them in one or two passes since your missiles are so strong.
>>584138083>gameplay has an incredibly low skill cielingBro your PSM chaining??!?!?!?!?!
I want them to rip-off the galactic war system from helldiver but set it in. Strangereal and make us fight in co-op missions to take back territory
There's something kinda sad about watching a Fighter try and fail to kill a single Attacker for like 5 minutes in Warfare
>>584136945That's all well and good but Warfare is fun when it's not full of bullshit. There is a good core game there and it could be extended and built upon to make a good pvp game.
>>584138313I didn't say it wasn't
What would be a good contender for an /aceg/ sings? Song of Wings (As One) is probably the obvious choice, but there are plenty of fun options as well such as Times are Changing.Is this general even willing to participate in an old tradition anymore
>>584138812>every month PA has to come up with another bullshit superweapon for everyone to fightI'm sure that'd be exhausting.
>>584138885Guess I mistook "pvp weapons" as implying they're good for PvP only. My mistake.
>>584138731Fair enough. I'll allow suffering for a greater cause
>>584137685The difficulty already breaks if you know the missions beforehand and bring the right plane/weapon/parts into it.
>>584138769No one's doing that shit until next month when the online is dead and the only guys left have grinded out Su-57's and F-22's
>Get Alicorn down to the final target>Everyone proceeds to fuck off and attack UAVsWhy
>>584139001Bruh the best weapons in pvp are good in pveI use LAAMs extensively on the rafale it's just so good at making up time in all the "fly across the map" missions
>Su-34 has more speed and mobility than the F-15E while also cobra capable>and generally better SPWSome great balancing going on
>>584138812I'd rather they didn't if the sheer community autism thats generated is anything to go by
I LOVE TIMEGATES IN MY 70 BUCKS GAME
How's the online for co op?
They shoulda just copied ME3's original readiness system, slightly tweak it and built pve around it. >multiple factions>successful pve outcomes up your overall rediness>the result is some kind of big eventUnfortunately it's probably too expensive to run long term and the idea is obviously to earn as much as possible while spending as little as possible.
>>584138964We sing Hortus Regis Alti or nothing.
>>584138823>Fly in a wide horizontal circle while slinging LAGMs around the map>Immune to all types of missles>No fighter is good enough to line up their guns>Profit
>>584139034For me it's jenkins telling me my load out is shit when I generally had a feeling I would have to be fighting shadowsI usually wasn't wrong, and didn't mind classic gun and missile play for ground anyways since a lot of tricky target clusters have collateral opportunities
>>584139361Abyssal
>>584139454EVERYONE in falsetto except for a couple of dudes who are naturally that high
>>584139325fullback is a good looking plane so its balanced
>>584138964I did /v/ the musical this year, Id be happy to sing with /aceg/
>>584138964MY BLUESKYHOOOOOME
>>584139361>OnlineLmao jap netcode>CoopAs you can see most discussion is league of legends/coopg tier "I wish it was just 4 of me" shitSo not good
>>584139361Ass
why is there a ghost guy talking into my ear
Okay, I've had my fill of DeathmatchAfter 50 games these are my findings.>SU-57 is the king of turnfighting, no ifs and buts, nothing is more mobile than it. It's better than the F-22 due to abilities it gets. F-22 gets better missiles, but the SU-57 gets better mobility stats and a flat 1.2x damage boost on everything which the F-22 does not get.)>Morgan is probably the best lobby sweeper if you're good with it. People can't fight without their missiles and the TLS is still broken as shit. A SU-57 as mentioned above can beat a Morgan but they need to put in effort. Most Morgan players in Deathmatch are absolute dogshit and easy farm kills. Even if they aren't shit, they're your top priority due to being a massive threat>LAAMboats are great for breaking up furballs. I haven't used one in deathmatch, but I can see great success using them. I have lost a few of my 10 losses due to LAAMboats just getting lucky and sniping unassuming retards over and over again.>2 Star and 3 star point multipliers are insane. Go for them if you can but don't be afraid to just pick someone off chasing them, a lot of players get tunnel vision and don't check behind>ECM/ESM from the Barricader will shut down 90% of players. Barricaders and Growlers are susceptible to players good with their guns. Most players are dogshit with guns so you quite literally won't die. My first five games were with the barricader and I think I had a K/D ratio of 20 to 1.Plane tier list:SSS Tier: MorganSS Tier: SU-57/BarricaderS Tier: F-22/Mig-31/GrowlerA Tier: Typhoon/SU-33/Tomcat (D)Morgan is the best because TLS is gay nigger shit and can kill you within a second from 6500 units awaySU-57 is the best turnfighter and will come out on top versus a Morgan if it manages to close the distance. A good Morgan player can shut down a SU-57 before it has a chance to strike.Barricader/Growler are good for shutting down lobbiesMig-31 is the best LAAMboat cause it has QAAMCont.
>>584139745it's the ghost of kiev
in battle of rocky island 1 what exactly do you need to do to decide which team survives from the spear? is there a change in dialogues? sometimes alpha survives or charlie
>>584139535The point isn't falsettoIt's starting like 4 octaves down and ascending when the verses repeatIf you don't gradually ascend through the song it doesn't work as intendedI thought it was corny shit the first time I heard it but used in the appropriate context?Even I had myself saying >I believe in wings
>>584138964please don't do thisit's so cringe and gay when a board does this
>>584138964definitely my blue sky home
>>584139745>Talk to me cope
>>584139802>plane tier list>it's a bunch of niggermobiles I don't have and have 0 interest in flying great! anyway
>>584139802pretty much my experience as well and generally how ac pvp goes. missiles are only good against noobs and people busy dogfighting already and anyone that can aim a gun or laser in a mobile jet will stomp everyone that can't
>>584139745>focus, r
>>584139875Oh whoops I'm stating the playbook for the song of wings>HortusI think it fails if you can't put your lungs into it, so falsetto would kill just how impactful it is when it gets going
>>584139802Are there any milestones or such for playing deathmatch? Is there any reason for someone to do this to themselves?
>>584139936>Cringe and gayIs ace combat bread and butterThe only time AC missed was that "go dance with the angels" crap
>>584139849Doesn't Charlie get fucked every time?
>>584139021cute kate but shed be cuter naked
>>584139745They wanted Johhny Silverhand but forgot to give it reason for it happening
Cont. from >>584139802Any of the planes mentioned above can win a match. Actually noticed that I forgot to put the FA-36 in there, imagine that it's in S tier with the F-22 (Gets fighter buff, but does not get insane mobility like the SU)> Suicide crashing in PvP does not detract any points from you like it did in AC7 or Infinity. If no one has hit you before you can crash without any penalties. I've seen multiple people do this with LAAMboats whenever they were caught out. One dude actually managed to snag MVP with it because he denied anyone the 3 star bonus after having a 12K leadIf you want an easy time in deathmatch, just use a LAAMboat and fire away. I can guarantee you that you will get kills because people can't keep their eyes on the radar. I recommend using the Mig 31 cause it's cheap and handles better than the F-14. It also gets all three of the best missile types unlike the other LAAMboats (Seriously it's SP.W selection is stacked)If you're good with a TLS use the Morgan. You literally can't lose even if there's someone with an SU-57 on your ass. The respawn invisibilty should give you enough time to nab one or two kills removing any counterplay from people (Provided they even manage to shoot you down which is hard as fuck)>>584140082Forgot to mention that the F-15 duo also isn't half bad.>>584140127Pretty much >>584140294____FUN____ (I was over it 20 games ago but wanted a round 50)
>>584131808>I HOPE I NEVER HAVE TO ESCORT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN>In Ace Combat 8scort: Wings of danger close>A game where you're on a carrier most of the time.>Anon is 5 missions in
>>584140316in the six times ive repeated i got charlie to survive because i wanted to exhaust the dialogue on going inside the tunnel. im not sure about the trigger on this but the dialogue changes on the number of units surviving
theory postingAll the digital noise/glitches you hear early on in the campaign and the obvious digital nature of the "vision" Cope sends you makes me convinced that the Cope you hear throughout the game is 100% an artificial construct of the dead Cope's consciousness a la AC3. The voice claiming it's not tied to the dog-tag at the end was just a red herring. My assumption is that the "game" is a presentation of the compiled data of Rex's role in the war, and that him grabbing Cope's dogtag (which is the device through which the corpos record a pilot's consciousness for AI training in this game) caused the consciousness recorded inside to bleed into Rex's own dogtag recording. The fact that the last thing you see of Cope is while you're flying over the spot where you left his dog-tag supports this, even though the voice tries to throw you off the idea. It would be cool if it was a ghost, but I'm pretty sure it's all sci-fi shenanigans.
>>584140561>but forgot to give it reason for it happeningThe schizo voice in your head only works if you can talk back to it otherwise it's just regular schizophrenia
>bought AC8 for my Series X because it seemed a little too heavy for my pc>forgot you have to pay to play onlineGlad to hear online sucks at least
AC9 will have us fighting mechs, ground units capable of popping flares, dodging around, and even intercepting UGBs.
>>584141284i don't think it's awful. the pvp is but all the co-op stuff is fun to me
>the most prolific influencer for ace combat is some performative bald fuck who cries on screenThis is who leads us?
>>584141585we lead him the AC community literally groomed that retard into promoting the game
Should I write my congressman and tell him we need to fund Autonomous Airborne Drone Carriers powered by solar energy and microwaves to patrol the entire continental United States?
>>584141375I want a game like AC where I'm a mech pilot
>>584141375>Ace Combat vs Armored CoreThis would either be amazing or absolutely miserable
>>584141715isn't fires of rubicon this?i didn't play it because it looks like eye cancer
>>584141375And the online will still be ass, also counts for both funnily enough
>>584141671But to cry like a woman?My estimation of this community y fuckin plummeted
>>584141697Best we can do is televise a firing squad execution I'm afraid.> powered by solar energy and microwaves> The US military complexLol, lmao even.
>>584141375I'm still of the opinion that we need to eliminate the submarine threat once and for all by having general resources develop planes that can go underwater
>>584141585Tbh from what I've heard and read the community basically bullied him into listening to literally nothing but ace combat music. The one time I'm proud of the larger community. >pic related: him listening to anything pre Skies Unknown
>>584141803It's not Balteus is a danmaku enemy, otherwise game only gets obnoxious if you have red light sensitivity
>>584141697The US doesn't even have enough industrial capacity to make planes anymore. China makes all their fighters now.
>>584136085Kek
>>584141986I think 04 is good for its time but ill never understand the people who glaze it as better than anything that came after
>>584141953>But sir, isn't a plane that can swim just a boat that can fly?
>>584140649>the F-15 duo also isn't half badArent the J's SPW kinda bad for pvp?
>>584141872you post like a muslim autistic fans of niche properties will always fawn over people who acknowledge the greatness of their niche property. Niche properties also tend to attract trannies and gay nerds in droves, and they love crying men.that faggot moistcritikal is currently playing the game all the way through and raving about it as well. He's not financially dependent on it like the bald gay opera guy though, so despite his playing it doing infinitely more for the brand than baldy, he doesn't get the title i guess
>>584141375ace 9 will be a clusterfuck. its going to be ECM galore and you will have pet drones to do hacking attacks. next boss fight will be a low orbit satellite carrier the size of a small island
>>584142282>overly emotional kafirChecks out.
>>584142141It's less about glazing old games and making sure he listens to music from more than just 7. I find him annoying as hell.I was just glad ACF got his time in the sun. Man was an OG, I watched compilations from him going back to Youtube's founding. He's the only one who should have been in those preview podcasts Namco put out.
Trying the other attackers and then switching to the Su34 is like taking the weights off, jesus christ
>>584142282>Quote Phil leotardo>Get an emotional crash outJeez it was an expression take it easy
>>584142560How the fuck do you fly that thing?It always feels like it's bouncing back up if I try to pitch down towards the ground to get a bomb or gun on target.Is ground effect a thing in AC?
>>584142431Also, acting like the social media approval of a hyper-vocal crowd of trannies and fags is in any way representative of the game you like is womanly and gay behavior. You might need to be thrown off a building, habibi.
>>584142732Almost sounds like you're panick fat fingering the two rudders and engaging autopilot
>>584140649Isn't it easier to aim TLS if you don't use expert controls
>>584142556>spoilerWhile I was waiting on my paycheck to get a console and 8, I watched the first ten or so missions with his playthroughs, just like I did with 7.
>>584142710>>584142920oops, that was for you i guess?explaining how reality works to niggers is not an emotional crash out. it's charity
>>584139745Cope and Rex are the same guy. Cope has such an impostor complex that he developed a split personality that's a badass super pilot, which he lets 'take control'. Everyone referring to you as Rex/Ray is just Cope's schizo brain coping so hard it warps his perspective of reality.
>>584143017>Suicide crashing to deny points>Swapping controls just to laser peopleJesus fuck how low can sweat play go
Who let the fucking Sotoans in here?
>>584142560She's call the Fullback because she leaves the enemy on their ass, or you panting on yours. If not for her gun placement and fatass she'd be a multi-roll. I love this fat fuck like you wouldn't believe.
>>584143138People just mouse aim to laser on novice
>>584143252They're nomads. Even if you barred their entry, they'd find a way in somehow. Like rats.
>>584141803For one mission and it was magnificent
>>584143261That's a duck.
>>584142975I promise I'm not.it doesn't happen when I bomb on the F-4
>>584143075>and he's still psychoanalyzing meCharles schwab over here>>584143134>It's shutter island, all that brain damage was real but they needed pilots and you actually ended up being more useful as a mass murderer than jan cope so it's all a gaslightHoly shit that would be so based
I've been using the Frogfoot online, I thought it was supposed to be irredeemably bad but I've been having fun. Obviously if I get a superplane lobby I can't do jackshit before half the map is vaporized but in more balances lobbies it's fine. I got a match on the pipeline map and got top Ace for my team just for bombing the fleet with SFFS. It does fly like absolute shit though.
>>584143440you keep dropping all these names and i don't know who they are. is charles schwab also from that pretentious overrated wop show?
Btw i on mission 5 too. Tried it once with su25 but it was really bad.I can buy a10 or grind a little and buy something like 18e. Should i?
>>584143261>multi-rollfat fuck indeed
>>584143134I considered this theory as well during my playthrough but in the end it just didn't work with the way the game is structured/written.
Damn i didn't know solo wing pixy was that based
>>584143502Its not pretentious or overratedYou're just a joyless fuck who eats aloneI bet you don't even pass the salt, you just throw it everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ETOWedKSyZ0
Is the reason they picked Zero as a pre-order bonus because Enso Order is also striving for a world without borders?
>>584141953>general resources develop planes that can go underwateri've seen a bug where the ladons can clip underwater, so they clearly have the technology
I normally play third person since I like to ogle the planes but Zapland threatens to blind me
>>584143775sopranos is the definition of pretentious and overrated it's still great and i still love it though i'll admit
>>584141284>too heavy for my PCIt's not. The system requirements are high solely because of the high poly 4k texture models in the live rendered cutscences that are locked to ultra HD settings.
>when you A-10 bomb the Land Battleship's tracks off before the first building blows by flying underneath the ship
Rex is just autistic. Gets stuck in a tree AND mauled by a sheep. Dude dint have much luck as a chopper pilot either. I'm guessing he just has plane autism
>>584143697I locked in like a sleeper agent in the story when it was revealed Enso was a front for A World With No Boundaries.
>>584141953I had one of the Ladons dive underwater while doing its thing. At first I was like "Huh, did I win?" and then a few seconds later it emerged back up. I thought it was weird no char acknowledged what happened, and I found out after coming to the thread that this is not intended behaviour.
>>584143892Kono said it was just because it was Zero's twentieth anniversary but the more I play the more I think you're right. The YOUNG ENSO EXECUTIVES do seem like a sort of unholy fusion of the ideals that AWWNB and the Princess spout of.
>>584144083It's worse.Enso is basically a corrupted version of that, they want to replace national borders with corporate borders. Basically just a copro elite coup.
>>584143916I think Ironically the AC community over glazing the music to normies does as does the sopranos community overglazing the showIll still stuff my quotations book with sopranos isms thoughEspecially if they trigger grumpy old /pol/ anons
why dont we have faeb anymore
>>584143697pixy is a commie tho
>>584144246>glazingwow zoomers play these games too?
>>584144347Too stronk.
>>584142381>every plane has permanent ecmwe gun
>>584144489And if the gun fails, we gaan.
>missiles are now almost useless>gunpods are now the standard
>>584144545we ww2 now
>>584144367>Game with the most marketing in the entire 30 year franchise AND has kawaii waifubait has youth playing it or trying it Sharp as a fuckin cueball
Anyone have that picture of the Belkan painting of the dancing girls?
>>584144545So AC7?MGP fishbeds were freaks in point limited lobbies
>>584144357he changed his ways
Goddamn. That was a close win.
>>584143261I see it
>>584144672This?
>>584144672>Dancing girlsThe space elevator mural?
>>584145007>if this was a reality, then AC8's plot would never have happenedHarling's dream...
>>584145007>ywn dance under the shadow of the four elevators with your polyculeWhy even live?
Trying to level up the F-15C in Assault is such a pain
>>584145007Bigger res
>>584133559 Bruh, I've seen slow moving F-2s in a predictable trajectory dive bombing the Endurance only to accelerate to Mach Fuck the moment I hone in and chase them. The AI seems to have an initiate Assault Horizon maneuvers on a per case basis.
>>584145007Thank you!>>584145079Yeah that''s it. I misremembered and thought the elevators were lights in the sky signifying the nukes.
>>584145280The mural wasn't belkanYou are
>>584145347Why didn't he just make Wings a V-Tuber? Is he stupid?
>>584145469would you simp for this?
>>584134253I hate how they use the terms lock-on range and diatance when "range" actually effects missile endurance and distance is ACKSHUALLY lock-on range. Semantics, I guess.
>>584143686True delusion can warp one's perspective so hard that they are incapable of percieving reality as it is. For example there are extreme enough cases of bulemia where someone that's literally skin and bones see and feels themselves as a 400lb ham planet. Another example is Tulpas, halucinations so strong that the person experiencing them is (from their perspective) capable of physically interacting with them.
>>584145268They do, its very notable when their squadron just spawns or in a "you shouldnt shoot these guys down yet" case deal like the Su-25s in mission 6
what makes QAAMs fucking disappear instantly i don't get it, every time i'm the one getting shit it circles 5 times arround me
>>584145534gimme merch!!!!
>>584145742if youre slow you give them more time to track youQAAMs are countered (imo) by high initial speed and low angles of attack
>You upgrade anything other than a felon?>Too bad enjoy getting shit on for the rest of the online's lifespan
>>584136984>muh haremBro LARPing as an isekai protagonist
f22 turning worse than a f16 is comical i have to say.
>>584130989>>584132131I was getting the same error when my clock was unsyncedAs in your system clock, go re-sync it, I swear
>>584146561Even Raptor pilots wish they flew the Viper
>>584145673It's annoying but I've discovered ways to outsmart the computer by firing guns early (just outside of their dedicated ranges) to limit their jerky turning rates then firing missiles after baiting them into my line of fire
>>584146561>finally a lore accurate raptorPeople forget the raptor isnt designed to fly well, its designed to be stealthy/shoot you and then fuck off before you lock on itIt just happens that some nutcase had a bradley moment and wanted the plane to dogfight, which it supposedly isnt all that great atThey really shouldve went all in and gotten a proper stealth plane designed to acquire lock and fuck off at speeds incomprehensible to most dogfighters Or at least thats what they say the YF-23 was
>>584146561Unless the F-16 is much higher level or optimized for maneuverability and the F-22 isn't it outdoes it in every way
>>584145639Another example is ardently defending a theory that is disproven by the narrative it's tied to via the argument that "crazy people can see whatever they want".
>>584146561>missile truck flies like a missile truckFighter Mafia warned you.
>>584147102the F-16 was designed for maneuverability yesIIRC it takes a bit of common sense>Raptor always prioritizes radar cross section>F-16 has its iconic "negative aerodynamic stability" and is an absolute freak according to its pilotsit also has probably the best canopy glass ever
>>584146561>reality is comicalI mean sure, but an F-16 should turn better than an F-22.
>>584147645I am talking about the game
>>584137408BlueSky is run by genuine retards who do nothing but say that they're better than Twitter while also having genuine extremists on that platform as well>>5841381254chan circulates the same opinions and behaviours from social media, do not pretend it is any different now
>>584147026They always limit the Raptor's thrust vectoring and give it shit like drop tanks for exercises like this btw
>>584146689We got every mission that you doAnd we fly 'em all better than you
>>584147102F22 high g is fucking miserable, do yourself a service and never waste any general blueprint into it
>>584147026Don't these kinds of simulations give all kinds of limits to the F-22?
>>584147859We're single seatMulti roleWe can fly right up our own assholeYeah all you fuckers wiiiiiiisssssshhhhhh You flew the Viper.
>>584148217Yeah. They always simulate with every disadvantage possible if i remember that right. And i'm not a F-22 shill, thats just how it is.
>>584147782Oh right well if I had to guess>Anon is accelerating faster to top speed in the raptorSo of course it's going to feel like ass
My one complaint about the Sotoans is they're too serious. I wish there were more squadrons that were here to have some fun, like pic related.
>>584148470Wish Glamrock and Purple Magic had knew each other
>>584148470Eternally disappointed that this and the AWWNB logo are both fanmade and not in game.
>>584148217>>584148337It was a scenarioIn the same wargames the typhoon pilots had a scenario where it was search and destroy ishBasically the raptors acquired missile lock, fired and disengaged before the typhoons ever acquired a missile lockSo all this wargame showed was that trying to make a stealth plane also a dogfighter is silly due to other priorities, namely stealth
>>584147181I'm just stating facts. My theory can be just as wrong as anyone else's.
>>584147645Pilots do say piloting the F-16 is more like wearing it.
>Morgan>Tanks 3SP for whatever reason>Nuclear SASM>TLS>Only outturned by a max felon >fastest plane in the gamereally PA?
>>584137598>kick the can down the road and do nothing to solve the issueAmazing suggestion, it's so retarded you might just fit in with the rest of the imbeciles who designed the online mode.
>>584149429>super plane outperforms regular planes
>>584149721NTA but this would be a lot more understandable if you had a choice to NOT PLAY AGAINST IT
>>584137598Retard
>>584149721In universe it was cutting edge 60 years agoAlso it's something you can literally spend money on to unlock instantly in a mode that's more timewasty than what was in 7
>>584150032That would imply he's going fast
>>584150059tbf the Felon is also almost 60 years old for the universe
>>584147645Negative stability is a feature of basically all 4.5 gen and onward jets. The F-16 was the first but it's certainly not the only one.
>>584135991Erm ackshually bombers can pop flares once every 1000 missiles.
>everyone celebrated>kate calls out rex's nameYeah it's over. I like Tasha and wish she had more interactions with Rex but at this point Rex is for Kate just like Trigger is for Avril.
>>584150758You think Avril let's Trigger raw dog Cosette on the weekends?
>at airshow>nice day out>blasting Times Are Changing on headphonesaw yeah, we peak comfy now
Forget Avril, I can fix Scream.
Squad's full again, if you requested to be in but didn't make it it's probably because I don't like you, yes you specificallyAnyways, there is one guy who is about to be inactive for my arbitrary yet undisclosed amount of time required to be kicked for inactivity in this high attrition release month so you'll probably get your shot tomorrow when I take him out back and pull the trigger.
>>584151009Is it possible to kill her first or do you always get the same dialogue either way and the game just pretends whichever one you down isn't her?
>>584151512Yeah, Rage lives up to his name if you kill her.
>>584151512It is possible, they are both unique named aircraft and there's even a different variant of the OST depending on who you kill first.
>>584151512>>584151589Not just that but fighting him second is actually harder, Scream panics and shoots random missiles but Rage gets insane missile tracking.
>>584151009>FixShe's not broken
Hey Rex shoot down my crippled waifu
>>584151885A true wingman.
>>584151885he wants you to shoot her down so he can bone her in the afterlife
>>584151885Sure thing funny mind man
>>584151723And Rage fires like 4 missile volleys as opposed to Scream's "I have given up" single shots
>>584151885YES [_>
>>584151885There's no evidence that cope isn't a 2nd personality and everything past you getting shot down isn't a fabrication in your head and DD relaying to the XO that gaslighting you that wings is you and not cope isn't the best course of action>Coster?>Kate?>Tasha?>Baxter?>REX?I am cope and no one has the heat to tell me because I'm just suddenly better brain damaged than thinking straight and not shooting anybody down
>need to blow up a Fatsia arm indirectly for the medal>keep personally blowing everything up with UGBs and flying in a circle between the levelsI guess I just need to play differently for a little bit.
>SASM>LAAMThey should make a mode where you can't use special weapons.
literally me
>>584153245SASMs are fun, I love getting into it with some fag who thinks he's slick with PSMs and his fancy high turn jet when I literally can't miss him
>>584153245>Let's just high g turn for eternityYeah nah zero is overrated and the game wasn't designed for this tripe to be taken seriously
>>584153293god i wish that were me
>>584153481>Let's just high g turn for eternityYour gun, anon?
>>584151885Sure thing boss.
>>584153245>SASMI don't run into that too often. It feels like most people are still on QAAMs.What are people flying with SASMs?
>>584147026>>584146561the f22 and f35 aren't made for super maneuverability. go fly the F35 in DCS or MSFS, it's insanely easy to fly and it goes fast and high but compared to flying even an F5 it's way less fun because it just doesn't pull Gs like that. it's not made to. the FCS g limiter is set to like 9gsthere hasn't been a dogfight in 30 years. nothing is shooting down an F-22 or an F-35 in air to air combat irl, but they're not turn fighters. they're maneuverable by nature of being 5th gen fighter jets but not by design
i feel bad about stealing ground kills from my attacker bros but the laam niggers have already stolen the air kills
>>584154046You need high g and psm to point the gun in the right direction
>>584154180It's because not many planes have it, easiest way to get it is Mig 21, but once people start getting more FA-36s, it'll be really annoying.
>>584147026>which it supposedly isnt all that great ati've heard in practice fights that pilots were having trouble locking onto Raptors that they could see visually lol. it might not pull as many Gs but its definitely got some fun quirks in a dogfight, supposedly
I do high g turns in my car.
>endless high g circling or psm spam till one asshole lines up a shot or wins the joustAC pvp is so shit it's unreal.
Can't believe PA made people fall in love with a 34 year old woman.
Is jackpot 9 the daughter of the reporter from hour zero?
>>584155092anon you're 33
>>584155229Yes>>584155240True
>>584155092That's my wife you're talking about.
>>584155240Yeah and nobody is falling in love with me, what's your point?
>>584154282The F-22 has thrust vectoring
I hope they don't take 6 months to announce the dlc missions again
>>584154583Why aren't people taking the Gripen pill?
Post 'em!
>>584154282A combat load F35 will outmaneuver a combat load F16
>>584155718It's ass
>put Baxter in the F-35c since Its the best naval plane I have for a multi-role mission and I was too poor to get a second sub weapon>Its the mission he gets railshot It the coincidence was too funny for me to take the scenes seriously.
>>584155229>Watching my brother play>Hear her death chatterI've beaten the game a couple of times at this point and that doesn't sit well with meLike holy fuck she's flying alongside joker up to the endMegafloat?Land battleship3?The furball of furballs?You fucking name it, cut short in mission 8 ishThat's so fucked>Also carrier dauntless visibly emptier of harriers on deck as the game goes on
>>584155737How the hell do you take screenshots without the UI getting in the way
>>584155557>>584155431That we are supposed to fall in love with 34 years old women, and at the same time Tasha should be the tard daughter to proteccBut some of us are just not meant for this kind of modern world. How much do you think you would need to abuse a mammalian to take it to the point of not being able to reproduce because of its psychological state
>>584155780>Let's fuck the one advantage the plane has and put it at "combat load"If you're going to take advantage of "combat load" wing armaments immediately sacrifice the stealth
I JUST realized that the Access Games that made Sky Crawlers and ACX etc. is the same Access Games that made Deadly Premonition
>>584155956Press Show Menu when in screenshot mode
>>584155878When did she die in your brother playthrough?I finished the campaign 4 times and she survived all of the times
>>584155718Ugly
>>584155972>The age gap is the issueNo you zoomerTasha is emotionally incontinent and risks hers and/or costers lives on like 4 different occasionsKate>Encourages coster's music>Discourages bickering>Stays cool like an ice man>Sticks to the missionShe's just put together and she doesn't need to be the best pilot to do it
>>584156157Top pic is not jackpot 9, that's a helicopter rescue crew jacket>When did she dieRetaking of theve ii, so if you're not great at mission 8ish she's fucking dead along with purple magic
>Kate, during her Woman Moment: Ray reminds me of CopeHow!?!?! Cope was an illusion. A propaganda figurehead with zero kills whose only job was to run away to keep the myth alive. Ray is a superhuman one-man airforce that singlehandedly turns the tide in every theater that he's deployed to. He destroyed the entire land-battleship force. Up until this point the only Shadow to ever survive contact with Ray was 22. How the fuck are Ray and Cope even remotely comparable?Also, god damn why was DD so retarded? Making all of these AISloppa boomer memes about "Wings is growing LARGA". If he wanted to make memes he could have used footage of Ray skullfucking the land battleships while overlaying pr0-gam3r memes, or posting that Reaper-door meme with Wings-reaper killing Shadow flight ######'s doors with 22 next on the list.
>>584156486I think DD's AI facebook memes make a little more sense when you realize he is getting shafted by his corporate masters and he's desperate to try to prop up his "end the war ASAP" plan.
>>584156484>Retaking of theve ii, so if you're not great at mission 8ish she's fucking dead along with purple magicWait what? I thought Purple magic dies regardless because they're out fighting the land battleship I in a different AO. Do they show up in mission 28?
>>584155972>That we are supposed to fall in love with 34 years old womenFor what fucking sake?Peak of attraction for women is 22 years, +/-3. And 30y is barrier where women unsuitable for childbearing: risk of complications and deviations increases by order of magnitude.
>>584156157I didn't even know she could die
>>584156646But why fabricate a larger than life illusion, that can blow up in your face when it's proven false, when you legitimately have a larger than life superman? He walked right into the opposition proving his illusion a lie when he could have leaned into real accomplishments like the destruction of the land battleships or however many flights of Shadows that were shot down. I lost count of how many Shadows were vanquished. Except for 22 they were all chumps.
>>584157071Because Rex can be shot down at any time and - despite being a singularity - is still only one person and cannot be everywhere.The FSU are both outgunned and outnumbered, so DD has to manufacture the idea that there's actually a secret reserve hidden somewhere.
>>584156486DD clip that
>>584157071The lie was going on for way before Rex took over
DD feels like the only one with an actual character arc as minor as it is. Tasha has one too I guess but it's barely there. Meanwhile DD gets his anime moment when that vocal song starts playing.
should I spend the next 4 hours playing AC8
>>584157570yeah
Yes
>>584157071please see: the real life events that inspired this game
>>584157287>>584157348If we're shot down then DD can return to the pure illusion propganda work that he was doing with Cope. So long as we draw breath, we provide a constant stream of legitimate victories to base his propaganda around that would give the propaganda far more weight and would render the claims immune from blowing up in his face.>>584157660The joke that blew up on Ukraine's face when it instantly was dispelled as the falsehood that it was?
>>584157321What's more crazy than actually doing this is the fact that they obviously intended for it to be possible, otherwise the geometry wouldn't be there and it'd just be a flat wall with a texture.
if they had been really forward thinking in 3 they woulda had you attacking data centers
>>584156756I'm saying that it's the mission where purple magic plays it last setThey're a certaintyJackpot 9 is not
Do you guys play on type B high G or A?
>>584156486Cope was a slippery motherfucker who was damn near impossible to hit, by all accounts he was a great pilot. That piloting skill and tendency to always make it back alive made him the perfect candidate for DD's "Wings of Theve" story.Rex is an equally slippery bastard, but he also happens to subscribe to the idea of Total Sotoan Death.
>>584158209Both buttons.High G-ing just for deccelerating will fuck you up
>>584158209Both triggers held to activate High G. It gives you much more control.
Argonbolt is going to drop his review tomorrow, make sure to watch it so you know how you're supposed to feel about AC8.
I go for three ticks of soot marks on planes that's a tasteful level of wear
>>584158662max wear on everythingi get my planes from the scrapyard
>>584157863[MISSION UPDATE]
>>584136285>>584136373Rustbuckets get the 'benefit' of giving less points for being shot down and respawning much faster, so you can be an annoying everpresent mosquito at least
I find it a hilarious kind of "fuck you" that they made Sotoa not-mongols instead of not-russians
Is there even any evidence that pilots like Trigger and "Rex" even existed? Nobody mentions them outside of their manufactured storylines. Perhaps it is all just propaganda that various megacorps made up to blind the public on the war's true causes and outcome.
>>584136945It has always been kind of like this, except in AC7 you didn't have to grind for fucking years to fly your favorite plane, and had more skins to slap on, and they all looked good mostly instead of the same rehashed shitty patterns on every plane
>>584137967Should've made him play AC4 to put him through the Comona training grounds, no leaving until you get an S
>>584158662I put my MiG and Tomcat on half discoloration with 6 ticks of oil and 8 ticks of soot for that absolute shitbox vibeThe fancier plens get to be shinier
You think Baxter has taken up residency in Rex's head post game?>Rex! Stop fucking Kate for a second and listen! You can't keep wasting fox 2s on Sotoan camping tents on missions. Remember to use your guns to conserve ammo.
I wish there were side missions to make money instead of just replaying story missions. Low budget game i guess.
>>584158662for me it's max oil, 75% wear and no soot
>replay project wingman >get to the mission when you can cross a line to spawn a massive enemy fleet>somehow destroy all of it flying a low-tier plane>forget that there's one additional mandatory wave of enemies >run out of ammo for everything fighting it>spend the last 5 minutes of the mission drawing airship fire while my guys slowly down themNever before have I missed the mechanic in new Ace Combats when missiles spawn out of thin air when you run out I also wish there were more of these kinds of optional challenges in these games
Weird audio bug my lobby was all muffled and quiet and once I loaded into the pre mission screen it went back to normal, not before blaring loud train horn style ear rape at 150% for two seconds.
>>584158950NOOOO THEY WERE IRAN CAN'T YOU SEE???THIS GAME IS CLEARLY A MOSSAD PSY-OP TO GET YOU READY FOR THE INEVITABLE WAR WITH IRAN THAT'E CLEARLY DEFINITELY GOING ON AND GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!
>>584140649I went deep into the F-15C popcorn mines and once you get it past lvl15 with manouverability parts it flies like a dream and SASM is fun to rape morgans withBefore that it's kinda woeful though
>>584159239Imagine a roguelite mode if you will.Imagine being able to coop it with your friends even.What could've been.
>>584159239Bro thinks its a coincidence the shortest mission in the game pays out almost as much as an attack mission.
>>584159175>Rex! Move your body a few inches more for optimal thrust! Work on your technique and Kate will enjoy herself more too!
i feel like ac7 had more epic momentsor maybe im just remembering that wayor because im playing on veteran and it's just too easyidk lads. i'm on mission 22.
>>584159649You will stop thinking that once you reach mission 28
>>584159649AC7 canyon run is more epic than AC8 virtual canyonAC7 tunnel run is way more epic than AC8 barely a tunnelAC7 thundercloudy rock spire valley is honestly unmatched in the series.>>584159690>Shooting a bunch of straight flying bombers and a marvel avengers assembe scene is epic
>>584159649A lot of Ace Combat 7's moments where carried by music, it always kicked in and swelled at the right momentAce Combat 8 has fantastic and dynamic music that can work very well too, but it's often drowned out by cacophony of radio chatter and RAILGUN WARNINGS
>>584147026>>584154282>Gen 5 gets outmaneuvered by Gen4This isn't actually that new a phenomenon when it comes to aviation. When the F-16 first came out it was losing close range dogfights to the F-5 because the older aircraft were far more nimble when it came to turning. Doesn't mean the F-5 is better as the F-16's would easily dominate when they engaged the F-5's as they were intended i.e. at range with their more advanced radar allowing them to easily score a killshot before the F-5 had a chance to close. Think about the only older aircraft that beat the F-16 when they were fighting "properly" was the F-106 and that was only because they were told they could use the full ordnance available to each craft and the F-16 pilots quickly learned that the Genie was a thing.
>>584159907but my whimsical moments tho
Refueling is too hard
>>584158321>>584158364feels like the input doesn't work half the time
Level 20 Typhoon, here I come.
>>584158950They remembered estovakia/yuktobania exists
>>584159907Yinshi really is a pretty place to fly and be forced around in
level 20 thai poon, here I cum
I have 1 body slot on my F-16C I don't know what to do with.>Pitch Part>Superior Maneuverability Part>Top Speed Part>Acceleration PartI'm inclined towards pitch but maybe I'm wrong. I already have Bypass Optimisation installed.
>>584160136I also noticed that and I'm not sure if it's just a 'balance' change or not. Can't do it as often as in 7, unless it has some tight press requirements that I don't get
How much harder is Ace for Rank? Been S ranking Elite and I started getting trouble on Retaking Thieve II. Just did the fuck ass stealth flying mission 14 and it's one of the only times I've had to play the game in 3rd person because of the fucking drones.
Are enemy players in warfare always visible regardless of stealth?
>>584160063>accelerate>decelerate>match speed when close>micro adjust speed if not quite right>>584160136High G doesn't last that long and some airframes get more or less of it as well.
>>584160136>>584160536There seems to be a cooldown on it in 8, unlike 7.
>>584160603noi have no clue what dictates stealth but i've had plenty of nigs in stealth planes pop on and off the radar
>>584160480If you need tighter turns, take pitch. Otherwise, I'd say acceleration.
I really wish 8 added more skill expression. Things like the closer you are to the ground the longer lock on times and less accurate missiles were would add a lot to slower planes, especially attackers.
>>584158209I used Type B in 7, but doing that in 8 will fuck up your gun runs. That said, you can get some insane turn radii by using B over A.
FUCKING MOTHERFUCKERS I WENT FROM SUCKING AT PROTECTING BOATS TO SUCKING AT PROTECTING HELICOPTERS
>>584160570Ace S ranks are pretty easy in this one, I remember having to restart the Waiapolo Mountains clouds mission in 7 a few times as well as a few others but I've been first try Ace difficulty S ranking every mission in 8 so far, using the F-22 with either QAAMs or XSDB (just finished 26)
I am so shit with the gun in this game the velocity is pretty slow so once you have to compensate for a plane evading I lose it. The minor adjustments with rudders aren't great either. Yes I'm using the B reticle. Fuck the Su-57 in particular does every sukhoi use that slow cannon? It's more damage per hit but planes will just drift in between my bullets.
>>584160923SOL squad lookin mfer
>>584161371Pretty much. The Russians IRL favor a slower-firing 30mm single-barrel over the faster firing 20mm rotary barrel that US planes use.Ironically, the Eurodeltas should all use something closer to the Russian setup than the US setup, as they all have a 27mm single barrel.
>>584161107YOUR ASS WILL SERVE YOUR COMRADES
>>584144347It'll get reintroduced with the F-15S/MTD, Su-37, and/or Falken.
>>584161107That was like the easiest mission in the game, bro. Just fly relatively slow. You'll get chances to mop up later. You're really gonna hate the cargo plane.
how the actual FUCK do you do a PSM. it's literally impossible for me.
>>584161107Not to be rude but you might just be the worst player in this general, nothing wrong about it but would you please post some gameplay footage because I really want to dissect the way you fly.
>>584161769Below 500km/h, hold accel and brake together then release and pull the stick
>Expect QAAM to linger>Break off for angle >QAAM disappears>I die i love consistent behaviours
>>584161981>See a player plane chasing me>no missiles on radar>no missile warning>hmm I wonder what's->die from missiles that weren't there on my screen or radari love consistently shitty netcodes
>>584148470Holy saved. On a tangential note, do you all think the Nexus modders from AC7 will also make skins and such for AC8 or does the EAC/anti-tamper tech lend itself to deter such endeavors?
>>584162085I've gotten into the habit of releasing my missiles as late as possible whenever possible.So many people don't pay attention to their radar and don't maneuver unless there's an active missile warning
>>584160773After some playing I've come to the conclusion that I don't need more acceleration. I might go for high g booster part or pitch
>>584162378I always look at my radar and sometimes shit just isn't there. Neither a missile warning. And I understand that one could sneak one in point-blank but when I'm being chased and one gets launched at me from 1km away, I'd have seen it if it had actually shown up.
>>584162378yeah, i mean after all, AC8 has perfect netcode
>>584162204iirc at launch a bunch of linux players were getting permabans from online just for attempting to play online because EAC hates loonix (i think those bans got reverted but im not sure) so unless a statement from bamco comes out then if you care about playing multiplayer the risk won't be worth it, at least while there's no option to launch the game without EAC (afaik)
I would really like to know who married this jackass
>>584161769>>584161908I just realized it's because I had mph enabled and was actually trying to do it at 600 km/h
>>584162204>>584162549someone got banned ITT from trying mods
>>584159409Leveling up the F-15C past lvl15 has been my most miserable experience in online yet
>>584162495acceleration is always goodhalf the hazards in the game you can overcome if you can get your energy higher soonerhell Tewy/the Ladons/ 22 all use QAAMs that only really hit if you're <700 speed, which is always if you spam high G alot
>>584162594Under 300 knots
>>584162604oh, well mods are just over then unless you dont give a shit about multiplayer i guess
>>584162621Don't g-turn meme with it, even high level tards in superplanes or typhoons will outmanouver you. Break away and circle around, use your momentum rather than spinning in a circle because that shit won't work
>>584162604Pics or didn't happen
PSMing was the single worst addition to the entire series.
>>584162925DFM says hi!
>>584162621>still having fun, getting decent scores, and the occasional MVP in my lvl 10 F-4It just werks.
>>584162578The marriage is a psyop. He just wears a ring.
>>584162604That was just him forgetting to unblock the game from his firewall iirc
effectively 120k acebucks to uncap is retarded, and the enemy planes in scramble should at least drop 10-20 blueprints of their type instead of 1 (ONE)
>>584162578>pentabillionaireWould marry
>>584162773I haven't tried PvP with it yet but I will keep that in mind, I was talking about my experience with it in assault, anything with LAAM easily outscored me and there were the sickos with lvl20 Foxhounds who can't let go of their crutch plane and level up anything else, didn't get a single MVP.>>584163056At least the F-4 can bomb shit and HVAA is a decent air to air SPW.
>>584159175Nah, he's in Coster's head.
PSMs kinda suck.They add some insane inertia on missiles so it's only good for gunning really if you can control it
>gun only fatsiaWOW IT SURE IS FUN TRYING TO GUN GROUND TARGETS WHILE YOUR SCREEN IS SHAKING FROM CONSTANT RAILGUN FIRE AND ALSO DODGING MISSILE WARNINGS FROM ALL DIRECTIONS BECAUSE I'M STUCK AT 600 SPEED
>>584163932you need the reasonably fastest plane you got with solid G2G stats, so not a plane like the GAMEalso>collateral armsthats like 3 of them, blow them up and you blow up their platforms>railgunsthey have a weakspot underthem
>>584162578Dude is literally strangereal jeff bezos he probably had an application queue in the hundreds.
>>584163252Playing Monster Hunter taught me that the Japanese love grinding the same shit over and over.
>>584163884They break missile lock.
>>584164192No, well not in online at least
>pre orderered 8 which comes with a port of zeroWhich one should I play first?
CAN I GET ONE FUCKING EMERGENCY SORTIE? GAME, PLEASE
>>584164320Why didn't you play zero in the previous 20 years it was available for?
>>584163252Zoll becomes trivial eventually, the real gatekeeper are the general blueprints
>>584164262I just had a match where I did just that? Completely got the drop on two people because of it and shot both of them down. Could be though that lag means its not consistent.
>>584164483I beat 4 and 5 back in the day then I got really busy and fell out of gaming for a long time but now I'm back baby!
>be playing with buddy in Warfare>come across a renowned PS4 metaslave clan from the AC7 days>they're running normal planes>me in Barricader (because i like it and i wanna be support), buddy in Typhoon and two randos, we trash them>two matches later>they're back with two morgans, occasionally bringing in their own Barricader or Felon>3 matches in a row of being spawn camped by Morgans and we can't ever target their ground striker>can't hide in the clouds anymore>close end dogfights dont matter since they outturn us and immediately outgun us, considering one of the morgans also had ECM together with the TLSthat was genuinely terriblethere is quite literally no counterplay to it beyond just copying them and hoping you kill them quicker
>>584164646doesn't matter how you shat on 2 nuggets, it just factually doesn't break lock in online so its usecase are limlited
>>584164667Ahhh but did you beat 1, 2 and the inferior, japanese version of 3?
why is costs even a thing now thet they even removed the cost limit from deathmatch anyway
>>584165137Future events
>>584164749Who gives a shit
>>584165137Cheap planes give less points and respawn faster
>>584165137Team Deathmatch uses themand if you upgraded your plane it means that they go over their own cost limit, potentially making your pick for that useless, and you can't limit your plane level per loadout like in ACII don't quite get it>>584165235excuse me bro I should've been talking about a more pertaining topic such as the wokeness of AC instead to hold your attention
>>584165292>choices are spawning in your shitbird and feeding hard>or shooting everyone down and crashing the plane with no points for anybody the second you're threatened, so you can respawn and snipe someonewow, fun as fuck
Soon™
>>584165425didnt they all have a unique quirk/ability
>>584165425There's two godzilla movies coming out soon, I wonder if there will be special events for those
>>584165775>The DLC campaign is an EDF crossoverWould you play it?
kek
>>584166070Of course
>warfare is broken againbrabo bamco
>>584166120lmao
I was hoping co-op assault would be loke Battlefield 1's Operation mode.
>>5841664365 whole minutes of the most basic ground attack ever + a squadron that rolls over and dies instantly halfway through is really a disappointment, wish it was just full co-op with 4-8 players taking on rocky island 2 or fatsia or something
Did Tewy know cope was wings of theve? Did Toprek know? Is that why he was staring at Rex so intensely during the Rio Bajo segment?
>>584166436the only concepts that were borrowed from other games were the ones that keep you logging in every day for jack shit
>>5841668645-8 is just too much>>584166945>Did Tewy know cope was wings of thevehonestly there's that one moment during your duel where cope speaks and she essentially answers himtheres some artsy spiritual shenanigans going on where she doesnt need to know, and it doesnt really change the position she's in because>muh duty and convictionor something
I feel bad for raping so many people with my OP plane in Warfare but as Tewy said, That which we call battlepass "progress" has metastasized into cancer, There's nugget blood on my hands. Haven't you killed out of necessity, too? Castrating unruly Barricaders is a common practice in our squadron. I have to kill this shitty online for the sake of good SP DLC, and Sacrifice is unavoidable. Right, Wings?
>>584166864That's what I thought it was when they advertised muh co-op and muh biggest multiplayer everMy biggest problem with AC7 was the matches being so fucking short and they never adressed that fucking detail and i hate those japanese niggers so much
>>584167296>we might have shot down pilots that parachuted out of their planes but you shot rockets at us in retaliation so that makes you just as badsotoan roaches have the IQ of a peanut
Jesus christ i'm being paired with retards every single match
On average, how long are the missions in AC8 compared to AC7? I feel they were shorter on average to get them up to 30 missions total.
>dealing with F22s and Su57s today>they keep dropping off radarFine I'll play 5 prowler games to get that upgrade part PA.
>>584167689I would need to go through 7 again, but I think the missions are longer in 8 in general due to more complex missions.
So, now that the timeline is up to ac3, what's there left to use for lore except an ac3 remake? Straight up remaking ac3 would basically end the timeline and we'd have to start squeezing stuff in between other major events.
>>584164749The counterplay is bringing two more motherfuckers from /aceg/ and kicking their shit in. I hope we run into them tomorrow, with a full team of buddies.
>>584168218Was Neucom ever mentioned?
>>584168218Don't need to remake 3, they can just show the real events of the Intercorporate War and AC9 (you) being the Singularity that changes the events AC3 predicted
What part is better for SFFS on online? Additional Bomb Explosives or Improved Submunition Liner? SFFS is a bomb type weapon and looks like ABE affects it.
>>584168542Neucom really has its rise around 2033ish when they scoop up the DOE scientists GR fired
>>584168218Catching up to AC3 means that the timeline can finally go beyond AC3 and we get Jets in Space.
>>584168842i can't wait
>>584169035ADMM soon
If you want Ace Combat in space, I highly recommend this.
whats the point of these yes/no questions is your answer won't change anything
>>584166945My headcanon is that they knew, after seeing the photo of rex and bax's helmets. So they fucked off and speared the shit out of the place cus they knew rex was wings.But that's just a theory, fuck yourself.
>>584168218>what's there left to use for lore except an ac3 remake?https://ugsf-series.com/en/
>>584169336sometimes they make your wingmen go do thingsalso if you don't respond to Baxter in the sequence after he tanks a railgun shot for you he crashes on landing and you fail the mission
>>584169336You can fail two missions if you fuck up the questions
>>584169336~~IMMERSION~~
Maybe this would've been pointless filler, but i think that given our character has POV scenes on the E durance, there should've been the option to walk around and investigate things and talk to characters on the ground. Like, fishing with Baxter, learning guitar with Coster, working on homework with Tasha, etc. Maybe that would take the game too far off the normal trajectory, but it think it wouldn't be so bad.
>>584167689I feel like missions in 8 are slightly longer on average. Missions like 8, 25 and 28 can take 20-30 minutes where as missions in 7 rarely take more than 15My first playthrough of AC7 took me 10 hours, counting me being much worse at these games and a crash that forced me to repeat mission 10 (just my luck lmao) where as 8 took me 17 hours to finish on my first playthrough while finishing almost all score attack missions under time and probably doing missions slightly quicker than your average nugget
>>584169407the UGSF timeline fucks Ace Combat over because it has to flow into it at some point and then the series dies. Plus, the way AC3 is built doesnt jell well with modern Ace Combat. Easier to just say that modern Ace Combat is a different universe. Since Strangreal and everything else wasnt a thing until 4.
>>584169336<< It's a terrible mechanic, isn't it? >>
>>584169669>he doesn't want Ace Combat: The Dig Dug Warsfag
>>584169669The gap between AC3 and the next "major" event in the UGSF is 50 years. We'll all be dead by the time they can make enough games to fill that gap.
>>584169642Based on the early interviews and such it sounded like that was the plan, but I guess they realized people may not like having 20-30 minutes of busy work between missions or something.
>>584168842At that point we will truly become Macross.
>>584169642This would work for a 100h game, not for a 20h game.
>>584170027If Project Aces cannot be given the license to Macross then they will just make their own Macross.
>>584168218I'll tell you what we're going to fucking do.RIDGEIDGERACERACER
>>584169819They can skip through that timeline as much as they want. It's still a hard barrier. Better to let Ace Combat be it's own thing at this point.
>>584169642I expected to be able to as well
>>584170015Speaking of early interviews, am I misremembering or was there supposed to be a social media manager mechanic? The reason why the joker squad has all those colorful helmets with their tac names? Was it cut?
>>584170219They won't. AC3 pussy haters like you can Cope and Theve.
>>584170416>Thinks I hate AC3 because I don't like the series having a time of death and being thrown into a timeline it was never part of in the first place What kind of logic is this?
>>584169353No. If they knew that we were wings, then they would have had infantry overwhelm the house. It's more likely they thought that the rebels were harboring us in the city, so they leveled the city. Or maybe they just leveled the city to make an example of the rebels to browbeat rebels in other regions into submission.
>>584170626you can play the retard act all you want, I've had to hear you faggots bitching about AC3 being canon since before 7 released and it brings me great joy the devs keep nudging towards it and making you cry and shit your pants about it
>>584170192A racetrack would be an interesting setpiece for an ace combat mission. Maybe terrorists are trying to disrupt the race, or something?
>>584170941AC3 being canon isnt a problem. The UGSF timeline is. Pay attention.
>>584170626>noooo you can't have a game about cool futuristic plane concepts and variants you have to fly the phantom forever!
>>584171004They're the same, piss your pants some more
>Main two online modes are either 5 minutes of the most simple ground attack gameplay with a squadron that barely fights back>Or the same with some shitty dogfights with players occasionally thrown inOnline kinda sucks.
>>584171048>Ace Combat stops being Ace Combat>This is good actually! >>584171076It's so much the same that UGSF timeline literally cant happen with all the stuff that's been added to the series by now.
>>584170192They need to add Ridge Racer to the arcade in the multiplayer lobby.
>>584171314>stops being Ace Combatand there it is
>>584171449Ace Combat being in space isn't really Ace Combat. It's generic space game at that point. Might as well play Freespace. You can have your future planes and all that, but going to space kind of kills it.
>n-no you see I like ace combat but only if it's this very narrow view of it I specifically agree with despite the devs implying otherwise
>implying anyone, even Bamco, takes that fuckass timeline seriouslyIt's just a retroactive marketing thing to loosely connect their sci-fi games, you really expect me to believe that anyone working on 8's story was concerned about how the events in 8 might contradict the iconic and well beloved Galaga lore?
Gotta say PA really pulled a fast one on us by putting Tasha everywhere in the marketing but having the best girl behind the scenes.
>>584171751they literally added a game to the timeline last year, cry about it
Has Bamco themselves even given a shit about that timeline lately. I only ever hear about it as a very low effort way to troll AC fans
>>584171586bruh id play the fuck out of Rogue squadron if project aces did it
Mr. Driller is essential to the lore and worldbuilding of the Ace Combat series.
>>584171846and it might even be goodbut it would be a different game
>>584169698>_| NO
>>584171924>but it would be a different gameyou keep saying this but its not like beetlejuice where you say it enough times and it becomes true
>>584171692Have the balls to reply to my post directly. Damn. But I have played most of the console ace combat games and I am allowed to have an opinion like anyone else. If I wanted a space shooter, I would play one. Ace Combat isn't a space shooter. It becoming a space shooter strips it of something unique. >>584171751They do give a damn because they keep adding to it.
>>584171842
you guys do realize that things happen on the planets in UGSF right. like there can be an ace combat set on the planet of Strangereal at the same time as Galaxian>>584171849true
>>584171449ace combat is a jet game. if it's in space, it's not a jet. a jet is called a jet because of its jet engine and those engines literally don't fucking work without atmosphere. fuck space ships
>>584172131Whack
>>584172191based
Ace Combat already has a space mission. You lost this fight that happened before you were even born.
happened in a simulation
>>584172052>you keep saying thisI'm actually a 2nd guy jumping inbut to me, there are constraints with telling a story about atmospheric fighters constrained to a planet that I think make the story much more interesting and compelling, and those constraints would be lost if the story went to spacewhen everybody's stuck to the same planet that they have to fight over, you know exactly what the environment is, what the limits are, and what the stakes arebut space is the realm of ass-pulls which undercut all of that
The more I look into the UGSF timeline the funnier it gets. I feel like I discover something new every time I look at it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xydC-dDefWI
>>584172350gundam did this 50 years ago>define a finite amount of battlegrounds>design a system that works oaround itw0w so difficultIm not saying we NEED to go to space, but ace combat isnt really defined by>oh you HAVE to be in a jet fighterits incidental
>>584170778Luna directly talks about the encounter with you in Mission 30, she knew you were Wings
>>584172735somehow her recalling having milk tea with her robo chair while you sit awkwardly as fuck against the wall just flew by a bunch of speedwatchers or something
>boring plane autists mad they can't fly the same outdated shitbox for the 100th time in a game set in 2100you can go be a little crybaby on /wtg/ or /simg/
>>584171586>Lasers>Railguns>Neural links>Land battleships>Self-replicating drones>Prototype superplanes>But actually future stuff isn't ace combat okay????Nobody is advocating for Ace Combat suddenly going full Zone of the Enders or anything, just that advancing the timeline with ideas like "what if the YF-12 or XB-70 or ST21 actually entered production" is fine.>FreespaceI mean Inferno 3 is out but Electrosphere will actually happen before BP:WiH Part 4.
>>584163932I just don't get it. I take out the cruisers and the fuel tanks, get to 50k, then am stuck with bare pillars that take 10 seconds of gunfire to break...
oh cause he spawns in a tunneldo you think they had to pressure wash the ceiling
>>584172896i for one wouldnt have minded if the F-104 starfighter came back in 8, but the fact that people insist arbitrary rules that were never laid down because???? is bizarre
>>584172896the B-52 will still be in service in the year 2100 in real life, mark my words.
>>584172896the reality is ace combat 8 is full of real planes so i'm not sure what you're having a stinky diaper over. take your meds crybaby bitchboy
>>584172920Inferno 3 is out? Since when?
>>584172191This anon gets it. In space, there are no winds.
>>584172896real planes are far more interesting than your OC donut steel star wars shitbox #15432
>>584173253Last month I think?
make sure to livestream yourself blowing your brains out when they reveal the default AC9-10 plane is a future concept
>>584173485I'll have to check it out Once I build my new rig.
CERTEPER CAELUM VOLA
>>584173696ESTOLIBEROH ESTOLIBER
>>584173063>Ace Combat 9 starter/canon plane
>>584173696AVE BELKA XDD
It's not gonna be the playable plane but you're sure going to spend the first mission shooting them down as is tradition.
>>584172731>Im not saying we NEED to go to space, but ace combat isnt really defined by>>oh you HAVE to be in a jet fighter>its incidentalwell, I disagree
>>584173957>playable bombersBEGONE ASSAULT HORIZON
>>584173267Belka will find a way.
The new Ace Combat cover plane will be the F-35BAnd the starter plane is the Harrier II
>mfw mission 19I understand a space elevator is in tension, but with the planetside part ruined wouldn't the centrifugal force of the space side overcome the tension balance and yeet off into space
>>584174743Something like a space elevator has to be built tough as fuck. Losing a few supports will make it unusable, but not make it fail. But any more damage will most likely be too much.
>>584174743That would've been too kino for this world.
>>584174743i think its built to some tolerance as well as having magically attained true geocentricity
>>584174743Harling's ghost and spirit is holding it together
>>584174931Especially since it would come back down eventually and make some great fireworks
i don't understand the idea, purpose and the engineering of a space elevator/aceg/, can you explain it to me like i'm five years old?
>>584175240It's cheaper to put stuff into space with an elevator. That's the reason to make one.
>>584175240build a fuckheug elevator>dont need to waste rocket gas to go to space>can make a bunch of solar panels with incredible efficiency/maximum exposure to the sun>because you can and its great PR
>>584175240sending shit to space is really REALLY fucking expensive in terms of power requiredif you have two anchors, one on earth and one in space you can use like a pulley to transfer mass with a fraction of the power, it makes space-faring and colonization a lot easier
>>584175240Rockets require large amounts of fuel to launch into space, and are fairly dangerous because fuel runs the risk of exploding.Space elevators work like regular elevators.Imagine if the 'normal' way to go up tall buildings was to shoot yourself out of a cannon. Obviously an elevator is better and safer in comparison.As for what they are sending into space, probably mining the remains of the Ulysses asteroid, solar power satellites, long range scientific missions to other planets. Nagase went on a seven year mission to recon some nearby asteroids, for example.
>>584175240>i don't understand the idea, purpose and the engineering of a space elevator>ideait works like a regular elevator in a building, but way bigger>purposeit makes moving heavy stuff into space way cheaper than launching it on rockets>engineeringthere's a counterweight up in space, in geostationary orbit directly above the elevator, that holds the elevator's cables up, and pulls the cargo up from that directionthe counterweight stays in position even though there's no part of the elevator's structure holding it up (like with a building holding up its roof) because it is orbiting, which means that instead of falling down onto the planet, it is technically "falling" AROUND the planet (but doing so at a precise rate and altitude that makes it seem as if it's just staying in place, relative to an observer down on the planet)
>>584175319>>584175406>>584175471NTA but how does it leave the elevator at the end? Like the Tonitrus spears? Or does it just launch off the top, with it having no ceiling at the very top?
>>584175501>>584175471how does shit not collide with the pulley between the two anchorsor am I misunderstanding something in betweenhow does that differ from the accelerator thing they had on tyler island?
>>584175684The thing on tyler island is probably a mass driver, which is basically a "railgun for commercial purposes".
>>584175673You let go of it. Duh.
>>584175240>ideaIf you have a space elevator you can go into space without having to strap your ass to a million gallons of kaboom liquidHell you could literally just go up a staircase inside it and leave atmo just walking>purposeGetting things and people up there for less money>engineeringNothing we have right now can survive the forces involved so it's pure speculative science
Should I work towards F22 or Su 57?
>>584175673its an elevatorso ideally it has floors or you can leave the elevator from
Were Ventus squadron the most normal Sotoans?
>>584174743What got fucked up in the fighting is the windbreak, which isn't a load-bearing part of any sort. The cable, which is the actual fundamental part of the ISEV, was undamaged.
>>584175673At the top of the space elevator is the counterweight, which is part of what keeps the whole thing in place. It isn't a structure that works like a skyscraper, basically there is a counterweight in orbit over the Earth and the whole tower is actually extending DOWN not UP.Anyway, that counterweight is probably a whole space station, with a launch bay for satellites.
>>584175673>NTA but how does it leave the elevator at the end?by "it," do you mean whatever the elevator's cargo is?the elevator car stays on its cable, so it can't go any higher than the counterweight is orbitingfrom what I remember of the elevator cars, I think that there are just giant doors on the side, so presumably the cargo is unloaded that wayI don't think that we've ever heard anything about what's at the counterweight up in space, but I would expect there to be a mini space station / tiny cargo port in order to perform cargo operationsgiven the tech level of the rest of the stuff in Strangereal, I could see this port being entirely automated
>>584175684>pulleythe only reason you see giant cables extending into the sky is because long ass rope can bend and coilstiff hard beams arent possible at that length, or impractical and it should be more like an anchor, do you attach an anchor to something that can coil and dangle, or a fucking single stiff bar?everything else is god knows, it could be magnetically accelerated for all we know
at what point in the game do you get to fugg Queen 1
>Sitting here waiting for online to get patched to see what monkey paw bullshit will happenPatch any day now...
>>584175983>>584175975I see, a space station/port-like construction in orbit would make sense. But how the fuck would the Sotoans use it to load their satelites? They'd have hacked it, if automated? Hijacked the station? I guess there's just random unexplained bullshit there
>>584175925>What got fucked up in the fighting is the windbreakwell... also 1/3 of the curved ground supports in the next mission
>>584175759>>584175992>>584175809>>584175667>>584175501>>584175471>>584175406>>584175319alright lads I appreciate you allI have the gist of it nowyou've been very helpful
OST been real quiet since blue sky home
>>584176217WHERE IS THE FUCKING PLANE
we helped someone!
>>584176429Hidden in t̷̨̧̨̮̝̬͇̯̻̟͔͙̀͊̉̕͜h̷̢̠̟̰̞̪̟͓̭̥̪͖́̄̓̐̑̔͌̈́̽̈́̏͝e̷̡̜̪̻̰̓̊̕ ̴̧̞͓̭̖͙͉̘̟̼̺̠̍͋̇̄̒͆̽̾̀̕͝͝s̸̡̢̡̡̞̤͔̞̗͈̫̎͐̀͐̑͌̿͆̓̃̈́̕͝t̵̢͖̖͉̏͗̇͋̚͜ͅę̷̢̙͙̙͕̮̳̩̻̺̫̜̉̉͜a̸͓̱̰̣̳͉̯̯̗̠̥̒͂̑̿̿̃̿̽͋l̶̬͈͉͐̔̇̈́̂͂͆͂̕͝͠t̴̡̧̢̢͍͕̦͓̹͕̥̰͊͂͝ͅḩ̴̝͖̻̤͓̜̖̱͓̬̠̑̌͊̇ ̵̖̗̭̏̀͌̽̌̃̒͑́͝d̶̛͕̼̮͈̟̰̫̗͉̯͔̝͍̂̈́̾͒̀̑͛̋̍̐ͅḭ̴̡̨̹͂m̶͖̟͇̣̗͐͋͌̊̂͐̇̓͐̓̿͆̍͜͝͝è̵͓͙̝͎̻͈͙͍̠̣͂͌͊̓̆̋̎͠ͅň̶̨̼̞̟̬͍͎̱s̸̥̦͂̂̄̋̂́̈͑̇͝i̴̡͕͔̜͎̱̖̤̙͕̇́̑͛̾͐̔͒̊̔̽̽͠͝ͅó̵̢̢̙̘͉̥̙͙͕̪̈́͑̋̈́̂́̓͜͝͠͝͝n̴̨̙͈̣̕
>>584176634Thats it i'm calling my serbian friends
>>584171586The series can have short ventures into orbit just fine, the next big space milestones are still decades out.
>>584176429
Ugly gunpod, why couldn't they just add the A variant
>>584176151You get it to space and the satellite itself gets in position using its own thrusters
>>584176879A isn't carrier capable
>>584172896I will be flying in my su47 forever faggot, fuck off from my planefu
>>584157321They know we love tunnels. They know how we figure out how to fly into the warehouse at Anchorhead. This time they made a few and I know many more exist but no one has found them yet.
>>584176935>implying you cant just strap some scrams and rams on an SU47cmon the Mig31 is already practically a star fighter
>>584176065>he didn't shag her at the partyThat's what you get for not paying attention to your yes/no answers.
>>584176878Coster isn't an emo, he's just a sensitive young man.
Looks like ace_combat is finally getting some us, even if most of the new content is trash
>>584148598>Kono saw this fanmade emblem for the squad>Knew he could never top it>They will never have an official emblem
>>584177370How do you get this dialogue?
>>584174357IF IT PSMS ITS A FIGHTERIF LADON CAN KURBIT SO CAN BUFF
>>584174357Look, all I'm saying is that Assault Horizon wasn't that bad.
>>584177859you get rid of the forced dfm and it was almost ok
>>584170778I like my idea better, and you are also gay
Twenty god damn minutes to get one three minute match.And why do missile colors even add 200 pts to your plane? Is it just to flex on people?
>>584177859I actually wouldn't mind 1 (one) (singular) of those bomber missions in a new game, that one AH level was a cute gimmick mission
has anyone found a use for HCAA? I have my QAAMs than I can use in my su57
>>584178135Yeah, there needs to be a designated bomber/attacker mission. "This one time you don't have to worry about air combat and can just go to town on ground targets".
Whoops no quotesI mean honestly with such an established universe you could turn ace combat into anything.They could set a racing game in it and it'd work.
>>584178182They are good for M28
>>584178216the fact that we dont have an actual race mode with collison is baffling
>>584177975misc parts as a whole are super underbakedpunishing people who bought the deluxe version with a part that makes their plane notably worse in MP is pretty funny
>>584175673There's a counterweight space station at the top in geosynchronous orbit. At that point you could just walk out of the airlock and be in your own geosynchronous orbit too. You could then use weak engines to burn into a a different orbit.The tornitrus spears actually would descend to a MUCH lower orbit. The often quoted 90 minute orbit is akin to a low earth orbit of about 200km above the ground. Geosynchronous orbit for earth is closer to 36,000km.
>>584178216I agree, there needs to be more Strangereal games. A tank commander game, a naval combat game, maybe even a tycoon game that's all about the Space Elevator.
>>584178216I mean shit they tekken billboards for a tournament at Davenport stadium in there and quirky ass AC fans are like "omg will u b ther???"
>>584178345you get a shitty card game insteadu rike
>>584178457
>>584178182I one of missions when fighting some giant airship, running hcaa+qaam let me spam missiles something fierce. Lockon to a propeller, fire standard missiles, swap target and weapon system, fire hcaas, swap target and weapon, fire qaams, swap target and weapons, fire missiles, swap target and weapon, fire hcaaas.
>>584178350Truly baffling. Not only do you lose a slot, but you also give more points to the enemy in warfare and stuff.And another thing: Why can't you see the maps from the sortie screen? What the hell is this nightmare of a UI. I've played Cygames stuff with better menu optimization.
>>584178497>first real attempt at mainstream>fuck it with trendchasing cashgrab bullshitits honestly bafflingx2
>>584178631>date cosette>have to dine at an expensive restaurant to just to listen to her bather on about world peace>date scrap queen>get drunk in a dirty roadside bar and eventually thrown out because she punched a guyChoices, choices.
>>584167548I think you missed the tongue-in-cheek nature of his shitpost
>>584178497A what
>early online>morgan players with MBPM are faggots>mid-game online>miggers are faggots>late online>morgan players with mouse-aim TLS backed by EW planes are faggots
Everyone would have been mad at PA if they had put the morgan at the end of the battlepass
>>584178829people datamining the game found the next dlc planes and a bunch of references to a card game you can play in the MP lobby
>>584165425If Bamco did nice things, these would return.But they don't do nice things.
My controller might be going. I pitched up while accelerating to escape Fatsia but my F-35 went too high and hit the ceiling. Tried recreating it to see if the F35 locks up at some speeds but I'm not sure. And later during 28 and some of Moon 11 I swear I had rolls going out of control.
>>584173267>solar winds
>>584179325i fucked up my triggers from playing AC8 as well
>>584174743Would have made cool levels
>>584179587my thoughts exactly
>>584179587It would have, but the Space Elevator is going to be very important in future. It's damage is very symbolic, it represents how hope has been devastated by the war but somehow it is still hanging on by a literal thread.If in AC9 the Space Elevator is lost, that's how you know there will be no going back from the corpo hell future.
I finished upgrading my F16. I see that higher end planes cost significantly more to upgrade, so I'll have to pick one. Should I go:>MorganUgly, but probably the most versatile. Has ECM, has nuclear SASMs that works against emergency sorties, has laser. Also the most maneuverable option probably?>GameBest looking option, also the best looking SASM plane for when I want to play that. Is it that different than an F16 at the end of the day though?>BarricaderBest looking EW plane and a good addition of variety to my roster. But I'm not sure if I'd like the EW gameplay.
Is it normal to see yourself in the lyrics for Blue Sky Home, or do I need to make an appointment with a psychiatrist?
>>584179949Rafale?
>>584179949grab an attacker like the fullback or the 15-Eif you're EWing you're better off with the Growler
>>584180264Fullback is the best attacker, i'd go with it too
>>584179949Dont do anything, patch is coming soon and god knows what they'll change
>>584180406Are you shitposting or is an actual patched confirmed coming?
>>584180610<< Did you sleep through the briefing, you idiot? >>there's a patch coming in a few hours, supposedly addressing some balancing and matchmaking issues
>>584180610It literally says so in the notices in-game do you not read your emails anon. This will be a big deal to tell if the game is going to get wild japanese patches that fuck everything up, or absolutely nothing changes. At least we'll know but if you spend your stuff now you might get fucked shortly.
>>584180230Up there with F16 as far as planefus go for sure but it seems way too expensive to just sling LAAMs when nuch cheaper planes can do the same.>>584180264I've got an F2A as an attacker but I don't enjoy ground pounding that much. I'd probably use multiroles to do it if I had to.>>584180406I'd be very surprised if they do any balance changes with the patch.
>>584180610Patch notes highlights:>Reduce LAAM homing by 50%>Reduce Mig-31 maneuverability by 30%>Increase rewards from Scramble>increase difficulty scaling according to average player lobby records
>>584136524bump
>>584179029what were the DLC planes
>>584181247I don't think there are any other difficulties done for Co-op assault, never seen anything other than 1
>>584181346I've gotten a diff 3 once
>>584181332nta butF-14A -RZG-SU-37 -Y13-SU-30SM -MHY-CFA-44 -PAS-ADF-11F -TRI-
Ace run done, S-Rank medals obtained, Assault Records completed. Just need to buy the rest of the tech tree and earn a bunch of MRP to complete the Steam cheevos, and on the medal side just the gimmick runs of guns/no damage/fighter/attacker/jammer.Pic semi related, cool Phantom geezer Ace. This fuck survived Sotoa-Yuktobania and Sotoa-Usea piloting a fucking F-4E. Glamrock would be proud.
>>584181481I don't believe this lmao
>>584180705I clearly am a idiot but I didn't see such briefing>>584180954>do you not read your emails anonI might have ignored if after the 100th time the game told me the battlepass updated>>584181247Now here is the real shitpost
>>584181427In Assault? I've seen in Warfare
>>584181812yeah, literally just onceI get diff2 every now and then but I've only ever gotten a d3 once, it was on shilage castle played exactly the same as d1
>>584181132>Up there with F16 as far as planefus go for sure but it seems way too expensive to just sling LAAMs when nuch cheaper planes can do the same.It's not about the LAAM, it's about having LACM and LAAM in a same package, it's the most meta plane at the moment if you can afford it
>>584182531MP ground targets are too spread out for LACMs to be effective
I made a thing to help me figure out what to level next, since I don't want to spend my golden folders before the patch
>>584182626there definitely are clusters of them on most maps, not to mention the heavy howitzers both in assault and warfarebeing able to just sling a lacm at them from 6km+ while there's fuckall going on for bonus points is always good
>>584182626most of the juicy ones are grouped up anyways
>>584182626NTA but not even remotely true. There are only 4 types of enemies. >4 spread units (typically boats)>4 tight units (AA/SAM/Radar/APC groups)>4 semi-spread units (typically APCs traveling on a road) >Single large targets (Heavy artillery) LACMs hit 3/4 of those. With the added benefit that LAAMs let you hit the high value planes that spawn. Literally no plane comes close to the Rafale.
>>584182726aside from Rafale, which one of the high cost guys are worth getting?
>>584183036su57, ea36typhoon, maybe f15e if you skipped on the su34
>>584182896Nah man, UGBL is king in MP. You can't compete with a Fullback player of equal intelligence.
>>584183080su34 shits on f15e
What race is he?
>>584183115Yes yes everyone has a favorite plane, it's irrelevant, for scoring the Rafale is the best plane period because LAAM/LACM is a broken combo.
>>584183201yeah but su34 looks retarded while f15 is beautifulit's also the superior pick for alicorn sorties
>>584183214defrosted caveman
The decals not fading wit the paint drives me up the wall.
>>584183214La creatura del San Salvacion
>>584183115Can confirm. UGBL with radius upgrade is god tier
>>584183257>superiorwhy? SFFS?
>>584183301>>584183296what happened here
>>584183214el ogro de waiapolo
>>584183221Dog, no, I don't like the Fullback. Every time one is in a game, they get 150k+ score. I saw one hit over 200k once. Rafales don't come close.
>>584183257i am just angry thats allwish there were more tanky ground targets in the game to actually justify high damage SPW like SFFSmaybe its better for chandelier too
>>584181513Were he any better, he could've been a Driver
>>584183363the sffs and xdsb combo fares better against it than ugbl/4agm
>>584183378spear strike
>>584175673bro are you serious?do elevators in buildings only stop by shooting them out the top of them?seriously use your brain for a minute for once
>>584129889Yeah I was surprised by that
>>584183430Anon your anecdotal stories are irrelevant. Again no one care about [insert plane you like and want to pretend is meta here]. LAAM/LACM is unmatched period.
>eurotard is having a melty about his plane not being the best again
>>584183624The A10 could have LACM/LAAM and it would be the meta choice. Special weapons are busted because of the terrible missions we have which are over in 2 minutes.
Hell is real Wings
Is dropping UGBL on Arsenal a valid strat? Can I destroy the hooks and core by dropping bombs above it? I can't be bothered to getting showered by a comically accurate pulse laser whenever I dive down to destroy the core
SOD is a real killer but it's only on the Super Hornet and FA-36
>>584183508>bringing more than one spw oh no he’s retarded
>>584183694>The A10oh you're the retard who doesn't understand how multiplayer plane stats workwelcome back
>>584183990>aiiiie i'm gonna run out of spw on this dps rush 6 minute mission!!!alright man
>>584181885Yea it seriously makes no difference the enemy density is exactly the same.
>people playing online calling each other retardediconic and ironic
>>584183990with the way missions are designed you will need to be lucky or have retarded teammates/rivals to use more than 10 SFFS
>>584178345>race mode>in jets>with guns and missiles and flares
>>584184013>Everyone who disagrees with me is one personYou get into arguments because you don't understand how AC works and spend more time posting than playing. Here is your last reply shitposter.
>>584184287there was a race mode in Zero and it was fineand yes it gave each player 2 missilesand>implying you cant just design limitationsyou can pretend to be as retarded as you want, at the end of the day the current mode is still stupid, as are you
>>584163932Just wait for PLSL planes then
Seems theres a medal for finishing the campaign on Attacker only? I guess the F-15E counts as an Attacker but that still seems to be a nightmare if you can only use carrier planes no?
>>584184802well, it's the main reason these pure class run medals are made, the other three are just three to make it look fair
I just don't understand bad Ace Combat players. How can they not understand targeting the easiest ground targets in points missions or ignore the in-game comms telling them to attack a fleet or shoot down specific planes?
>>584183574Man, that really sounds like a whole lotta projection from a Rafale obsessed Frenchman. Why don't you give us a video of someone getting 200k+ in a Rafale just to prove me wrong?
>>584183201Only if you absolutely love sucking cocks.
What should I level next?I was thinking Super Hornet E or Eagle C
>>584185391I absolutely love sucking cocks but I prefer F-18E
>>584185507F-15C feels great to fly, highly recommend it
all buddies that weren’t able to get into 404th due to squadron limits I made a second squadron for overflow id is 46285414 no request required to join so I don’t have to be online to let people in
>>584185391Fullback players sure are cocksucking metafaggots, still doesn't make the Strike Eagle not inferior to it.
>the enemy has high-powered missilesanyone want to get hit by one of them? I know I wouldn't
>>584186335>>584186335>>584186335>>584186335>>584186335
>>584183574Rafale is a multirole, Fullback is an attacker so it gets a massive damage boost against ground targets.
>>584185912>erm it can do duh pee ess emmsfullback more like full backshots lamo
>>584186442it is also faster and has better spw
>>584169174I'm glad Mike Tyson is still getting work
With so many fictional high spec aircraft in Strangereal, how come we never see our allies using them? Why is Queen flight using shit F-18Cs when they could use the XFA-27?
>>584178813>Date Kate>Go to pub trivia night, halfway trough she starts crying because she remembers the nights out with the bros from queen flight before the war and you cuddle to confort her.
