>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Beta GuildsNo /vg/ guilds at the moment.>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.>Previous Thread>>584130567
>OH MY HECCIN WHOLESOMERINO CHUNGUSRINO DIDNTOU HECCIN SEE THAT THERE IS A HECCIN HIDDEN TAVERN IN LE WETLANDS?!?!?! TALK ABOUT SUPER CHUNGUS COMFY COZY!! I CANT WAIT TO HECCIN ROLEPLAYRINO IN THERE JUST LIKE IN MY DND GAMES!!! ALL IT NEEDS IT WHERLCHAIR ACCESS (REALY BLIZZARD?!?!?!) AND IT WOULD BE HECCIN PERFECTRINO!!1
wheres the guild that only has FUN HAVERS??
the floorpissing sissy fears the rage tank chad
What are the upsides or downsides of Alliance vs. Horde?Why did you pick your faction?
Just realized Blizzard stole Duskwood from NWN2.
>>584157236The whole thing is ripped off from everywhere they could
>>584156789Can you and this cunt >>584132056 please stop thread splitting
>>584157124Rage is a fine mechanic, it just feels a little rough in the early game trying to play warrior or tank when you don't have the fleshed out abilities, talents, and gear to make it more consistent.
>>584157236literally everything from wow is stolen from tolkien
>>584157587they didn't post a link in the old thread, I didn't know they already baked. I hate trannies but I have manners.
>>584157236damn it really looks almost identical too
>>584157236NWN2 came out in 2006. WoW came out in 2004.
>>584158239This claim has been fact checked by American Patriots. It's false.
Monks should be added to Forever. Even if Pandas aren't, and most of the Panda lore is removed from their abilities. Just replace all the Jade spells with Holy spells.
>>584158239https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/DuskwoodThis is from 2001
remove windfury from the game
>>584158815Just roll horde and you'll have windfury, meleecuck
Should addons be removed from WoW Forever?The line between QoL and a straight up gameplay advantage is getting blurrier, and now anyone can make a powerful addon thanks to Claude.
>>584158815Kneel to your windfury totem bull or post little whitemane
>>584159362No, because it makes the game reliant on Blizzard to fix things. Blizzard is incompetent.
>>584159362good bait anon
>>584158815Somebody got raped by 3x 300 damage from a single melee swing ROTFLMFAOBBQ!
>>584159362The example pictured honestly doesn't change much, it's just QoL not advantage
>want to play Undead Pally >worried that I'll struggle to find a group and never get to partake in raids in my limited time to playDo I just go Troll Shaman for the 6th time and be a little totem slut again? And is Ele really gutted? I was thinking that since there's dual spec now I could at least Ele for PvP and get some dopamine from big dick spell crits.
>>584159903>ele for pvp>big dick spell critsBro ele is the worst spec in the game by a fucking mile it's even worse than fucking boomkin.
>>584158719Imagine this guy putting lili stormstout in a full vaginal nelson...
>>584160123Fucking RIP. Did Ench get buffed at least then? Because in vanilla it was a fucking meme spec at 60.
>>584159903maybe if you play holy paladinprot paladins need to form their own raids and no one wants to play with ret paladins because they will have the reputation of nelf hunters from vanilla
>>584160278goes oom in 10 secondsboth paladins and shamans will only raid as healers
>>584160278Its better but still shit. It retains the same core issues:>mana problems>miss/dodge/parry/glancing blows absolutely fuck you upA good tier set might make it strong but the core issues remain. You can still delete cloth users from existence if they let you get close to them but you are never getting close to a warlock, frost mage or shadow priest
>>584160278Enchantement Shaman is OP
>>584157139The human and NE racials pushed me from Horde to Alliance since I'm rolling rogue on PvP.
>>584160501Was really hoping they'd just give us TBC dual wielding Shamans, but I guess I expected too much from nu-Blizz. Thanks, betabro.
>>584160573Shamans get a 4th spec?
>>584160745So does Rouge
I'm flip flopping between warlock and mage right now, leaning towards mage.Anyone else think pets felt kind of off on beta compared to classic/anniversary?
>>584160657>human and NE racialsDecided on a race?I can't decide myself...
this. so much this.
>>584160934they are changing racials on thuesday and probably another adjustment for launch
No one is going to play Dwarf Shaman and the people that are forced to by their guilds are going to be miserable
>>584158719>Wrist almost as wide as forearm >Forearm almost as wide as waist>Hands as thick as bear pawsThe light is 10xStronger than Tren, dBol and TRT dang
>>584160563If you can’t get close to an immobile caster like Priest you are just bad.
>>584161396explain how a shaman can ever catch a priest
>>584160934Leaning heavily human based on sweat, but I'll take a good look at the in game models and could do NE. Better combos and pissing off my gank targets more is not worth rolling gnome, even though I suspect their racial is still really good on rogues.
>>584161542In most cases it’s as easy as dropping tremor totem as you approach. Worst case scenario you have to use insta cast ghost wolf. Priest cant even spam fear like a warlock can and blackout doesn’t proc that much and you can just drop grounding totem too.
>>584161759>drop tremor totem>priest wands it down and fears the shaman>use insta ghost wolf>priest dispels it>get close enough to frost shock>priest dispels it and gets to freely cast at you
Mage is completely overpowered with ice lance and other classes like Shaman are completely unplayable bravo blizzard
>>584161939Small indie company in a garage on windows 95 computers please understand
>>584161939I heard the Allince could use some shamans, big boy.
>>584161939>mage even more broken>shaman even more shitIt really is Classic+!
>>584161886You know what’s funny, I’ve had this exact same conversation with you before in the classic general. As I remember you personally got wrecked by a level 30 something priest and decided it’s impossible. Sucks to suck, I’ve killed a bunch of priests and it wasn’t hard unless they had a peel.
>>584162261Can't wait to see you cry in this general how Enhance is literally unplayable in bgs when priests mages and warlocks eat you alive before you even have a chance to pull your slot machine
>>584162261cute fan fic
>>584161939It's just lvl 30, it's fine.
>>584162503Tbh I recognize a few posters here. Classic general was a pretty small community.
>>584162667NTA How did you recognize me?
Why do people think blizzard is just going to magically get all the specs right with time? I think people should seriously look at the state of each class when they announced them and realize they thought this was good enough to unveil with less than 60 days prior to full launch.
>>584162815Well, I’ve just personally had this exact conversation with you before. Though it was way more toxic and unhinged but I think others were joining in. As for the Human warrior main who constantly seethes about Paladins, Retail, and says “wear the dress” isnt it obvious?
favorite Horde warrior race?
>>584162521Nah
>>584156789So is it true that Asmongold is backed by AIPAC? He's been a very good jew lately
tranny big mad, it deleted the op picYOU clap WILL clap NEVER clap BE clap A clap WOMAN
>>584161939yeah icelance kinda ruins the gamewhat were they thinking with retail spells like thatjust give them an instant cast frostbolt lmao
forever mindbroken by troons
lol uhoh troon meltieshould have kept your dilator in alcohol, could have avoided whatever infection is currently tormenting you into doing this.
Damn sub is kinda expensive now, isn't it?
>>584164254no clue ive been paying with blizzbucks for 12 years
>>584163909lol based
>>584164348What do you mean blizzbucks?
So how are we feeling knowing that devs are listening to streamers about everything so far, and now they’re all saying forever isn’t ready and they need to push back the launch? Is it well and truly over, /wowfg/?
>>584164493since wod you could buy a wow token on the auction house that would give you gametime or blizzbucks (battlenet balance)so since i had 20 characters farming the garrison in wod and half of legion i had infinte gold to buy all blizzgames and have gametime forever
>>584164729lol wait is this real? It is very clearly underbaked and that's just the 1-30 content we've seen. The way the devs kneejerk react and change things, there are probably going to be some rollback worthy bugs abused 30-60.
Feels like since they upped the level cap from 20 to 30, the PTR has been chock full of bugs now. All sorts of shit's breaking. Also don't know how the devs didn't realize Horde characters could earn rep in the Dalaran dungeon and would then be allowed in the city. Seems pretty fucking obvious.
>>584156789I'm unironically having too much of a blast.
>>584157713tolkien never could have dreamed of outlands. that's why tbc is the real classic wow.
>>584158815Windfury totem removed, and replaced with magic overload totem, which applies an effect like Lightning Overload to Shaman, Druid, Mage, Priest, and Warlock hard cast direct damage spells.
>>584165208Blast Boomers always win.
>>584164817Is that still a thing? How long would it take to set up?
>>584157713tolkien is overrated and modern blizzard even with all the shit content bodies him without competitionhe was first, not even really, but that's pretty much his only achievement
>>584165850no longer possible they gutted the garrisonsyou can still kind of do it but you need way more characters now and you no longer get raw gold but petcharms to buy battlepetsthose sell pretty slow and you need shit tons of charms so you need atleast 40 toons to guarantee atleast 1 token a monthto be honest not worth setting up if you dont have alot of toons laying around on retail
>>584165928low quality baitseething this hard tranny tsk tsk tsk
>>584157607you mean it feels a bit rough when that fat faggot has broken your class and rage generation both on purpose because he could not figure out how to make retardin top damage metersgood luck being a bear in early dungeons and having 0 rage because you get none for being hit
Undead Warrior or Orc Warrior?
>>584160459You're not too bright are you bud?
>>584169808orc, why even ask this question?
>>584163391Unironically yes.>>584163909>>584163518I missed it what happened.
>>584159362what is this addon
>>584175856
I'm yet to play Forever, let me ask something Do we already know how they're going to expand the game in the future?I'm guessing they're revisiting how they did expansions. Say, instead of going to Outland, keep updating the Azeroth continent for some time more.Unfortunately haven't had the time to read much on WoWF, this is pretty much all conjecture.
>>584176732It's going to be a gacha system without the gacha so think genshin impact but wow and with a sub/paid races/classes instead of the gacha.
>>584180280so nothing like gacha and more like wow with paid race and class DLC
>>584182930You don't understand. Rather than new expansions, we'll be getting Liyue FOMO festivals and a new race/class paid DLC instead of gacha characters.
where do we see the upcoming changes?
Paladin or Priest? Help me pick
>>584156789threadly guild recruitment post>20m>PvP>horde>EST>raid times TBDprogression focused, casuals are welcome too. we'll have a more laid-back 10m group on off-days.<Remigration>https://discord.gg/TAvXMh3zymentally ill threadposter
Question is... How did Blizzard know about Sky Elves?
>>584176732we dont know because blizzard has no clue either they just shat this thing out to get sub numbers up before their investor report
man, FUCK skelves
Blizzard needs to increase the level cap to 35 just so everyone goes to STV and gets a taste of PVP before launch
>>584160738Me too bro, but if we keep putting pressure on Blizzard, who knows...how long did it take the pserverchads to finally force Blizzard's hand...
>>584161607every man for himself is a meme especially since it uses global cooldown just chug a fap bro
Any guilds in pvp alliance?
>>584193227GCD doesn't matter, its still a gauranteed out to every 6s hammer of justice and 6s kidney shot. Easily the difference between life and death.
>>584188848i'm in the same situation, i normally play paladin but might go priest since my friend is a one trick warrior
>>584193516pvp trinket + stoneform or escape artist mogs
I'm going to play a black female dwarf shaman, level with elemental, and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>584193869Stuns are far more punishing than a slow.Wasting your PvP trinket on a stun means you can't use it for the really bad stuff like a death coil or hunter's freezing trap.
>>584194590good thing warlocks dont have stuns then and hunter stun is a 3s pet stun which he probably already used trying to keep you at a distance
>>584194738>what is tidal charm, nades etc
>>584194767bro thinks he is on nostalrius with pvp autists as the only population
>>584194909>only private server autists use nadeslmao you're in for a rude awakening lil gup
>>584195165>thinking i am wasting consumables on a pvp fight
>>584193869They get the racial AND the pvp trinket, bucko, on top of better stealth detection. Have fun fighting human warriors as a rogue.
>>584196158the racial shares cooldown with trinket so in reality the gain for humans is being able to use another trinket if they know they are fighting a rogue or in pve against bosses that stun
>>584197832>the racial shares cooldown with trinket0 proof or reason to think this
>>584176732nobody knows, not even blizzard. and you shouldn't care in the first place. there's several hundred hours worth of shit to do in the game starting november 4th. if you enjoy playing vanilla wow then get into it, have fun and drop it when it stops being fun. it's literally that simple. it's a fucking video game, not choosing your wife or whatever.
>>584162878>Why do people think blizzard is just going to magically get all the specs right with time?Because a bunch of Russian grifters can do it so why not Blizzard
>>584170056That's not an answer
>>584208267>Because a bunch of Russian grifters can docan they or is it that only a couple dozen mentally ill NEETs like you play their server and nobody even bothers to look for flaws because nobody gives a shit about it?
>>584211623Yes every spec was playable and useful on Turtle and no it wasnt just a couple dozen NEETs playing on Turtle.
>>584158719Monks have always been a gay and lame fantasy class
>>584158815Replace it with chance to throw opponent back 10yds with a gust of wind and stun for 2sec, kind of like a thunderstormspell. That'd be fun.
>>584160573Summit said shaman sucks. I think a professional WoW streamer knows better than you lil bro.
sneed
>>584229654Maybe you're confusing Enhancement with Enchantment
aléxénsuál has the best mods in his discord and stream.
>>584229040Better than your favorite class, aura-lette.
I have thousands of hours across multiple versions of the game and I have never played a monk or a priest.
Are we still hyped? This beta has shown that Blizzard still has no clue how to balance anything and it's just going to be retail 2.0 where specs take turns being overpowered...
use this one im done perpetuating that avatarfagging
Will blizzard add an annual event in june where you can hang trannies and people can throw rotten food at their corpses?
>keep elemental miserable to play>give them a totem that's required for caster parsing>keep group buffs limited to groupcongrats elefag you can play the game now
>>584240752Y W N B A WWNBAW
>>584240801They ised to have thatIt was called rolling a DK and the guards would also spit at you
>>584240936you will never be not obsessed, thinking about trannies 24/7
>>584240936at this point im convinced you're a tranny trying to falseflag and psyop
for me, it's hunter
He's right and you know it.
Can my 1050 (non ti) graphics card on my old shitter laptop run Forever or do I need a new setup
what will get me the most group, raid, and pvp invites that isn't a healer, shaman, or warlock?
between warlock, rogue, mage, priest and paladin which class has the smoothest and fastest strictly solo leveling experience with the least downtime and least buttons to press?
>>584241757i agree with him in a selfish way and disagree with him in a design philosophy way. there's just something about half of a raid roster chasing a single item drop that keeps people coming back. imagine a 30 warrior MC raid where half the warriors hit lottery RNG and get a binding. It just isn't as interesting or fun for anyone.
>>584241770My pos with a Radeon 780m or something runs it fine
>>584241757Personal loot turns the game back into solo-progression system and ruins the point of sticking with your guild and building those bonds.
>>584241792The standard way to level a Paladin is Netflix on one screen, WoW on the other. Slow and steady autoattacks to 60 is the name of the game.
>>584241792paladin and it's not even close
>>584241757Personal loot completely removes any team interactions and turns the game into a single player experience.
What happened to war stomp? It somehow feels wrong and different
Dali will not be playing WoW: Forever. While he respects the creative work being put into it, he is not personally interested in a heavily-modified version of vanilla.
retail andy's are fuming because Forever devs are constantly communicating with the community via podcasts, interviews and blue posts while retail is just a buggy mess slop with 0 communication from the devs.
>>584242418And yet retail has millions of players, while forever couldnt even hit 500k players in the beta with massive shilling. Really makes you think
>>584242105>>584242129this sounds like the simplest but not necessarily very quick
>retail has millions of players
>>584242418Forever is the flagship that the majority of the company is now going to have to push. The cinematic, Holly saying it's Classic+ AND the version that they will tell new players to try, opening up a weekly podcast to discuss it and changes. This is their final shot basically.
>>584242562>Really makes you thinkit really doesn't
>>584242562>retail has millions of players
>>584242562forever didn't hit even 200k players in the beta, it has 500k characters made and 80% of it are altsit's a fucking $60 beta, normal people wouldn't buy it
>>584242418theyre the same devs for both versions
>>584240930Now it's still same problem as tbc. Ele totems don't scale 100 sp and 3% hit is just 40 hit rating that fucks with peoples hit capped gear sets. We need a windfury totem for casters so it scales.
>>584242562>comparing paid beta numbers to a game that has been going for 20+ yearsdelusional retoilet cope
>thread split>both threads are made by the same mentally ill spammer that is here literally 24 hours a day to constantly try and spam the same op image every single threadgrim
>>584243893he's a probably a tranny himself
>>584244430He's gotta be
>>584242418>retail is just a buggy mess slopUnlike Forever amirite
do you cap your fps playing the game? is there any advantage in running more than 60 or 120 fps?
>>584244430>man who doesn't like ticks may in fact be a tick himself
>>584247225he's too obsessed about it
>>584244430100%why keep posting the faggotflagregardless of the roping, you're still posting the fucking flag, you faggot
>>584247503Not to mention there's the likely scenario someone looks for the thread to actually talk about the game, sees the flag in the OP post and just goes "ew" and avoids the thread altogether
>>584240930>give them a totem that's required for caster parsingHaven't been keeping up with the beta, which totem?
>>584247958He's talking out of his ass. The totem he thinks is in the game was introduced in Wrath and it does not exist in Forever. The only thing all shaman specs bring is windfury and tanks and melee are practiclaly useless without it. For some specs its like a 30% dps increase
>>584248112>The totem he thinks is in the game was introduced in Wrath and it does not exist in Forever.Bet.>For some specs its like a 30% dps increaseOh I know, I main ret in TBC. I refuse to play without WF.
>>584248112shut up moron, he said ele should have a totem for caster parsing because if ele doesn't get one people will just bring shamans as resto and never ele, it needs to have a mechanic that makes playing ele mandatory for said totem
>>584248585Your physical will want to bring shaman no matter the spec because otherwise their personal parse will be worse
>>584248585If someone is stupid enough to play Shaman he will be brought to raid even if he's stupid enough to play Elemental that's how broken windfury is.
>>584249078>bring shamanthey will bring enhance and resto shamans, but the question is how to buff ele so ele can be viable in raids too
>>584157065you had to add the wheelchair access at the end there because you probably realized that you like comfy roleplay.
>>584249080>stupid enough to play Shaman>stupid enough to play Elemental broo..... i just want to lightningmaxx ur breaking my heart rn
>>584250583I wanted to play fucking Ele as well, mate but I am NOT eating Blizzard's shit.
Have all the HElftroons ACKed finally after the Skyborne replaced them?
>>584252874obsessed
>>584253212You will never have High Elves
>>584253703i make a sky elf with white skin, literally the same thing
unded lock
>>584262802My brotherIt's a classic for a reason
Can warriors at least be able to charge in combat, please?
>Like hyenas pet>They still sucksPain
will we have enough time to hit 60 before gta6 drops? assuming this game becomes a raid log sim at 60 anyways
>>584273563k
>>584273563Probably gonna get banned for this one too but idgaf. Fuck the mods, fuck the jannies, and fuck the faggot OP who is beyond obsessed with everything tranny related
>>584273242literally who gives a fuck about some console exclusive normieslop
>>584273242I'm not playing GTA6.
>>584273563just kill yourself already, your friends and family will be better off for it.
>>584278935>The most tranny porn is searched in the state with the most Indians and MexicansShocker.
This is the tranny thread. Someone make a chud thread.
>file deletedWhat was it?
>>584159362Does this let you track mining and herb at the same time?
>>584273563You're a fucking abomination freak fuck off retard
Why did they remove Mangle for Druid?
>>584268216>For people who are TIRED of retail.for people who talk shit about retail but haven't played it in 10 years so don't know what they are talking about, for people who thought LK was le bad but in actuality got filtered by ulduar twice
>>584285098>communityit is a mega server with sharding, there is no community
>>584273563You're right, King Queen. Go off.
>>584273563your fault for caring about the site post-hack
>>584241757He unironically is
>>584273242game releases 15 days before gta6the average player will take like ~6 days /played to hit 60. its def doable but your gonna have to play a lot
>>584285184>>584285098>DOOD YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT RETAIL! LMAOI can't wait for retail to completely die after TLT. Forever is taking over and Thank God for that. It's a game that has potential. Meanwhile, retail is... well... just look at the state of /wowg/.
Personal loot trannies get the rope
>>584273563No, he's right. Monks have never been done well in any game.
>>584285098I was subbed for retail latest expacit's shit and I dont want anything to do with it anymore
>>584285917>just look at the state of /wowg/Trannies from wowg are now posting here instead or as well. So...
>>584159362UI addons are fine.Weakauras and addons that tell you what do during boss fights should be banned.
>>584242060This is a good thing. Guilds are for drama faggots and trannies.
Hey boys, what do you think my name would be in real life?
>>584285917>I can't wait for retail to completely die after TLT.they are for completely different audiences and by all accounts, classic players are way more temperamental that retail so forever is much more likely to go down in flames, just like SoD
