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Lands of Achra DEMO maybe in november, hopes? fears? indifferent? would play like conquest of elysium with an Achra skin or something of the sort

Live

I'd say Ghoul is a mix between Rogue and WarVet, he trades out pure stealth and the utility of quickswapping weapons for better sanity sustain and darkvision along with Frenzy boosting his melee output+speed. My build was more focused on being tanky and finishing fights fast with Indomitable Fury. It can be built as a quasi-Rogue with Stealthy and Cool-Headed to allow you to loiter around dungeons for a pretty long time and with better damage. Biggest problem with Ghoul is finishing fights worse off because he has to use corpses to feed. Not exactly bad, just a different way to sustain HP to consider.

Much easier to do good with compared to other classes.

Again

I cant do fucking anything without a soldering iron in cataclysm where do I get this shit
should I just get a car fueled up and go to this refugee center, people are saying you can just buy items there

>>584181615
you can make one pretty easily with like 2 electronics.

>>584181615
Don't bother relying on the refugee center for tools, they never have what you want. They're only good for buying bulk ammo and converting your shit into their currency for easier carrying.

Good night, /rlg/

if BN is the based chud fork how come it has pride flags bullshit out of the box

>>584184005
Calling it the based chud fork is both
A) done to insult CDDA by comparatively call it the tranny fork
B) done to defend CDDA by hiding behind LGBTQOMGWTFBBQ shield and comparatively calling BN every ist in the book

>>584184185
don't know about the BN devs but out of the two only kevin "maya" has trooned out

>successfully has children
>still troons
kevin why

>>584186046
>fell for the wife and kids scam
>then fell for the troon scam
Some people are just easily programmed

>>584182106
refugee center is most useful for welding rods. you need thousands of them to make a from scratch armored car.
unfortunately tlg changed the refugee center to only accept a small number of things for trade like guns and shit so they are basically useless again.

>>584184359
>he doesn't know

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>>584188563
wait wait you mean that my based fork that I play because I am very manley and big dick is also made by homos?

God

>>584189325
It's made by a trans person.

>>584192695
uninstalling rn

is there a megacity mod for BN?

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>>584193629

>>584192695
>>584189325
when you're autistic enough to code roguelikes the threat of trooning out is ever present. anime increases the risk. still, worth it.

>>584197639
which anime did Kevin watch so I can avoid

>>584197706
any

>pseudo-pockets in BN

What is that? I know we can already wear holster, pouch and utility belt to have weapons, tools and magazine at hand. I didn't find anything relevant in the issue/PR tracker. Don't feel like joining a Discord forum

>>584200327
It's this one https://github.com/cataclysmbn/Cataclysm-BN/pull/10539
But like I said the major thing it's only pseudo, missing some of the important features of pockets

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>>584106873
I did find some ores down in the cave. Now I've got some copper to go with my tin. Not a ton, but enough to start futzing with what I presume will be called blacksmithing. Killed a giant spider, and a couple of giant rats and vampire bats. I'd like to figure out some other light source as I can't figure out how to keep the torch lit on the ground for a moment while I use my shield.
>>584121682
The wider one is your current curse buildup and the percentage is listed there. The thinner one is your accumulation rate. When night falls, you have [curse] chance to have an event. If you do have an event and survive the night, it empties out. Accumulation rate is directly affected by your actions. Being destructive, chopping down a ton of trees, hollowing out a mountain for stone, and killing innocent bunnies for example will bring it up. The other side of things, plowing fields, harvesting produce, and fish-uh cleaning the ocean help to bring it down. You can still get to a point where you can do deforestation and demolition blasting, but you've got to keep things balanced. Had a night were I got "the shadows are moving" or something and I got a bunch of black "IT IS A MYSTERY" ghost lookin' shadows that hit like a truck. The biggest pain in the ass is that all the fog of war you've got revealed goes black again until morning comes. But if you survive the night, the big bar dumps most of the curse (possibly all if it's already low enough, not sure). Pic related is the hover tooltip.
>>584168463
Hey ma! Get the camera! OP used my screenshot! Thanks anon.

>>584200528
Thank you. I don't understand the practical use for that if the dropped items are not grabbed back when putting the linked cloth on, but that's a start

>>584001237
Thanks to this I just softlocked myself because of the vibrator exhaustion bug that puts you in a never ending exhaustion sleep. Thank god I saved not too long ago.

>>584201395
la petit mort

>>584201395
Not a bug, it's Kevin's experience.

FUCK STORAGE UNITS

>>584202401
those are still in the game?? wtf I was sure they would get removed lmao.

I found a radio station then play with the computer console in there, now it shut off while I did nothing. Is there a way to get it back online or did I just lock myself out of something?

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>>584200952
Curse finally popped. I've got several spontaneously generated plants scattered about now, with more coming as time passes. Got both a white pine AND a cypress, which don't seem to be native to this island. I've also killed my first slime now. They split sometimes. I'm resisting the urge to eat a slimeball just to see what it'll do. Garden trees have gone seedling and most of the produce is budding. I've now got a small pile of about 14 each tin and copper ore from the cave diving before the curse reared it's head. Once everything calms down I'll grab a meal and head back into the cave.

We are anonymous
We are legion

we are charlie kirk

we are japanese goburin

2hu hijack?

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>>584210375
Making my way back from spelunking and noticed some other plants that hadn't been around before the curse night. I've also gotten some rather interesting drops from things underground. I've got a good bit of pelts, a pile of bones, a cloak, some maps, and even an instructional scroll (how to make green glass). Mixing up more fertile soil to expand the garden will be on tomorrow's todo list. Along with making a backpack and building a well and furnace to tinker around with.

>>584194684
>>584194684
>>584194684
well?

>>584194684
I don't think so

>gender:male
>clothes:female
Totally obnoxious.
>attempt to suicide
>That's also been removed
Poetry

It's not yet over

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>>584223570
Speaking of mods I tried a innawood + no zombie world, but I still spawned near a migo tower with hoomans prisoners, took me out of my little bushcraft fantasy, so back to a new world with Z and hordes enabled. Well it will be a tad harder than spawning in a very remote evac shelter.

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>strange temple
what happens here?

>>584232524
innawood and the no zombie mod hasn't been updated since 2022 or something. Those are dead.

A lot of urban buildings could have ramped underground car parking, fireproof internal walls.
Construction sites would be a great place for cranes, as the urban equivalent of radio towers.
Most suburbs have one corner store in them and to create an urban bus network just make the bus stop a rare house variant, this would also let you reduce the number of ambient busses which often block roads.
Sinks all have a liter of water in the U bend even if there's no water pressure, while murky it isn't septic and you can siphon it out with a hose or deconstruct the sink. This makes multi storey buildings more survivable.
Most buildings have a copper earth rod, notable for being a huge maleable copper bar.
It's far more intuitive to [E]use a wielded mattress, wooden board, table etc to baricade a window then to go through the construction menus. The games construction system is particularly good but the UI is so godawful that it gets slept on.
Garden hoses, outdoor extention cords, curtains all function as ropes, rope is an important building material.
Many buildings have sheet metal porches, garages, and while very hard to smash they're very fast to disassemble.
Linoleum is faux leather, far more useful as armour then carpet.
You can pull a thousand tiles off a roof to throw at zombies, and that's probably a very good way of killing zombies.

>>584233170
strange things

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>>584235870
even stranger things

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>demon spiderlings

>>584210375
> I'm resisting the urge to eat a slimeball just to see what it'll do.

If not you, then who, anon?

Anyways, can you do magic or any kind of occult rituals? I can only get my dick hard for obscure magicks these days.

fuck I hate running out of food in nethack. no rations anywhere, no corpses anywhere, ran out of prayers because i had already become weak. just a lame way to lose a game.

Would a fuel air bomb crash cdda? Think twice the blast radius of C4 but no shrapnel and a third of the damage. The bane of all tunnel dwellers.

>>584240918
this gave me an idea
does petrol/diesel generate incendiary fume like incendiary bombs?
if they don't, i think they should do that

>>584239816
I'm thinkin' so, but I'm not there yet. I got some runes from when the curses happen. There's deities with different domains that you might be able to invoke with them. I know how to build an altar, but haven't done so yet. That'll probably be one of the doodads that I'll make when I'm back from getting my brakes worked on.

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I can't wait for people to start vibe coding a bunch of mods for CDDA. Not only could they add a bunch of cool, much needed features like better, more tactical NPCs, deeper combat and such, but it will also piss off the power hungry tranny devs who will immediately ban them. This will lead to a divide, and possibly some forks with people taking the game into cool new directions, while the devs sit on their special secret discord talking about what other new dildos or lgbt flags they can add to the game over the next couple of years.

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>feral chihuahua

>>584247381
>I can't wait
Then dont? do it yourself. You can add items or even fork ya know?

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>>584247381
The vibeGODS presence is slowly increasing in the CDDA community. At this point, it’s only a matter of time before one of their forks takes off and makes “Maya” rope.

>>584251178
>multiplayer co-op
do this for BN and i'm sold on vibe coding and AI

>>584251178
>co op
>turn based game
how does this work?
>wants to adds marriage and pregnancies
I like this guy, but there better be mutant opions hive queen path soon

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what the fuck is this, this is a fucking whoopee cushion

>>584194684
Can't you just raise city sizes to be obscenely large? You don't need a mod for it since world settings are only gone from DDA.

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>>584257682
yeah ig

>>584265745
chad, is this real?

>>584257358
Dogshit useless throwing weapons are a roguelike staple

What am I supposed to do in CDDA?
I have a water source and I'm not hurting for food. I even got an electric car.
Now what? People said this game was hard, but this shit was piss easy. Even on the highest difficulty setting as long as you don't pick a retarded start its easy. And clearing out a town is simple once you have access to molotovs, which is also pretty early if you find a gas station.

>>584267694
Zombies evolve over time. Second go raid higher level places which you have to find first. other than that yeah its a sandbox do what you want go anywhere you like.

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i also like to make smoothbrain questions that chatgpt could've answered just to signal my superiority and high intellect

>>584267694
>People said this game was hard
It's not, it's just incredibly tedious. But there's a large subset of "people" in the gamosphere that think tedium = difficulty. Some of them are actual retards, the other are actual noobs who can't handle real difficulty so they rely on tedium for their gamer cred.

>>584269806
What are the hard roguelikes then?

>>584268504
That is literally the entire purpose of generals

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>>584266309
yes

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>>584267694
Go loot science labs

>>584267694
The game has many sim elements so choosing progressively harder starts is part of the fun, with the new starting system many players just choose to be super soldiers ever run, which really isn't fun.

End game there are a lot of dungeons, you can collect survivors and do ambient quests

Survivors are so annoying to nurture. The only way to raise their skills other than crafting near them is to get them to read from books, but that's such an involved process.
>walk survivor next to book pile
>talk to them
>hit "i" to open the assign a task menu, but be careful because "i" is right next to "o" which is the "Oh we should go our separate ways" button
>hit "f" to open the study from a book window
>scroll down to the book you want them to read
>repeat this process every time you leave render distance(npcs stop reading and return to follow stance when you return, gaining nothing from your time away), go to sleep NPCs go to sleep when you do, cancelling their reading task, and every time they gain a skill level
>do this for every additional survivor you want to raise the skills of
And then there's the issue that many NPCs have stats and mutations that are unfeasible for combat. The Refugee center beggars for example all have incredibly low str, bad combat skills, and many debilitating mutations aside from that one furry, so they're only good for base bitch work which is still a pain because they also generally have no relevant skills whatsoever.
And to make things worse, survivors significantly slow down the game when they're in render, so they're not even good as base decorations.

Good night, /rlg/

>>584236691
what game

>>584278368
Probably Cataclysm with a mod

>>584274492
But equally the players own skill progression wouldn't matter nearly so much if you just just designate one survivor for each craft skill, or found a melee God really early.

They're more like labourers to automate tedious tasks which you don't generally have to do, like cutting planks, or weaving rope, but conceivably might have to do.

>The brackenwright collapses into a massive pile of leaves and sticks.

where do I get shit with metal sawing 2
do I have to make a fucking forge and shit just for the hacksaw

>>584282663
yes and it sucks
I think there are some power tools that have metal sawing 2 when they're turned on, but odds are if you have those you've already found a hacksaw

>>584282663
No, you fucking retard. Making a forge means you'll have metal sawing 2 already- Because both a constructed rock forge (3 soil, 40 rocks) and a placed charcoal forge pretend to be the charcoal forge item
And the item, charcoal forge, has metal sawing 2.
Why?
Fuck off with your questions.

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>>584274492
The refugee center beggars are comically bad. Like I think they're actually meant to be taken as a joke. That lengthy quest chain and then at the end you get THESE clowns?
Sometimes you find decent ones, though. I'm playing this one currently, after the original character whose name is on the save file got killed. Yeah, her statline's suboptimal, and weapon training doesn't actually work on NPCs, but she's got fast healer and nothing really terrible.

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>>584274492
>>584287207
Also got this one, who's at least interesting. Gonna play her if the current character dies.
Sometimes you find truly amazing NPCs, though they're really rare. I found a post-threshold Alpha mutant once.

odds - work on ragu
evens - play diablo 2
primes - do both with moderation

>>584287207
>>584287574
why does your game look like letters?

>>584291940
Don't beletter him

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>>584215673
Started building those doodads. The first of which was a furnace. Took all the stone I had on hand. There's quite a bit I left lying about in the underground, so I'll work on hauling that back to camp now.
>>584239816
The thirst for knowledge cannot be swayed by horrible taste (or poison). The raw worm isn't bad either. Getting poisoned is pretty bad if you're not ready for it. Luckily, the stack of bits in the box are Plant Roots. Letting those soak into my jug of water and drinking the resulting... tea I guess cures it. You can also hope it passes on it's own. I'll put off my hauling for a bit and try to sweat this out.

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>>584291940
Because that's what God intended

>>584282663
angle grinders have metal sawing 3 and can reliably be found in the storage closet areas of subway stations. the 'beverly shear' is a piece of furniture you can find that doesn't require power and it has metal sawing 2, but you have to deploy it every time to use it.

hacksaws are a big crapshoot, metal sawing is a bottleneck on so many things in the game and hacksaws are the only tools with it that are practical to carry around, but there is no reliable way to get them.

the prison start is known to be very good but something that makes it even better is the very high chance to get a hacksaw spawn in the prison workshop.

>>584294893
>the 'beverly shear' is a piece of furniture you can find
*at light industry locations

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>>584292404
Forty turns and 30% of my health later. Back to the task at hand. I have also learned that you can just Build with A Wooden Pole to make a ghetto tiki torch. The milestone says I've taken over 65k turns. Only now can now somewhat properly illuminate my camp. This will also make traversing the underground more manageable with proper combat prep. No more main-handing my shield. Though, I did just remember I've not actually make a wheel yet, so when I get this load of rocks back I'm going to see what I can finagle some sort of crude cart to haul more rocks at once.
Speaking of milestones, for obscure magicks anon: pic related. I don't know enough to know what I've discovered here. The sheer number makes me beard tingle though.

>*throws a lit molotov at ur face*

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>>584295712
There we go. Prototype wheelbarrow get. It took several sets of parts to attempt to make it, and the durability (consumed one per tile moved) is crap... but it'll work for now. When I started the process my woodworking was at 28.3%. Now it's 33%. The wheel and axel are advanced recipes, the wheelbarrow itself is an expert level. Wooden Minecart is master level. It craves straight lines, however. Turning is an involved process. I'll be keeping it in my inventory until I get to the rocks.

Bampu

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Soldier zombies are kicking my ass in CLG.
I Have 15 AR bullets to my name, and half a FEMA camp to clear.
Now i was going to be clever and setup nailboard traps and a noise emitter at night. It worked to lure them all out! But the nailboards just got destroyed and dealt no damage. I also put a flashlight there.
I dont have time to dig pits and fill them with spikes unless i do it in a far off forest.
I set the noise emitter too close to the card reader and the zombies could see me with the dropped flashlight.
What do? Pic unrelated.

>>584304416
Any craters nearish? I like to use those for early zombie killing, even if it's a long distance to lure them. Very easy to quickly convert them into spike traps too.
Explosions can form deep pits too I think. Otherwise you just gotta dig the pits, digger.

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>>584304993
There is a regional dump nearby i've cleared out. That's got lots of pits hmm good point.
Do spike pits ever fill up or get clogged? And whats the easiest way to lure them over that wont cause a conga line?

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>>584301964
Damn. My archnemesis. A right angle hallway. So close to the exit. I'll go grab me pickaxe.

>>584305547
Vehicles, preferably bikes, and lots of corralling to keep them together. If a few of them are sprinters or dogs I wouldn't bother corralling them with the slow pack, best to get them out of the way first.

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>You pushed the Maine Coon, but it resisted.

>start a new world for debugging purposes
>spawns the cody and jay bullet bank literally on the side of the refugee shelter
>with a mega military base, and the aircraft carrier in sight
>highway cutting through alll of it for super easy travel
wtf man why cant it do that on a real run

>>584307684
Is it some sort of special debug worldgen where all the good stuff is relatively close?

>>584307684
>cody and jay bullet bank
?

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>>584305805
With enough bones I can make things last forever, I hope.

>>584307929
i didnt think so, unless thats changed recently. i just did the "debug" world/player name thing where it starts you with a bunch of the debug traits. its not evvvvverything good nearby, just a lot. theres two prison islands, ones alcatraz, in swimming distance of the aircraft carrier. just goofy spawning, and literally outside of the starting spawn evac shelter is some wind turbines. a ton of useful things super super close

>>584308431
yeah. its a special spawn.

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>>584304416
Update:
I didnt have the device skill to make a spike pit, so i made another noise emitter, and lured another chunk away from the card reader. I got in and got 90 9x19 bullets so thats good. I dont think there was much more in there but i had to get out quick.
I also looted their pantry for some needed food.

I feel like armour doesnt do much, but im in too deep to do a dodge build.
Should i make armoured jeans, plate carrier and all that or is the encumbrance worse than the armour?

>>584292404
Oh shit, a food preservative AND a glue?
>>584305547
DDA, I think so yes.
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/88166
BN was receptive to some parts of it but the devs widely panned it as "typical Renech faggotry"
>>584309330
Don't let the gun autism rule you, anon. 9x19mm is just "9mm" (the most commonplace and popular caliber)

>>584309330
armor is giga nerfed in TLG, from what I can tell though the best option for armor is still the same as it was in DDA except the items are different, i.e. kevlar sleeves/leggings and concealable ballistic vest skin layer, survivor suit mid layer and chainmail outer layer. It still has way less armor than the equivalent arrangement in DDA but it seems to be the most efficient in terms of encumbrance. Ballistic vest encumbrance is so insanely high in TLG it doesn't seem worth wearing unless you are facing enemies with guns.

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>>584308712
I can't apply it multiple times right off the bat. It seems to make up for my poor efficacy. Before and after of the wheelbarrow.
>>584309740
I haven't felt the need to preserve anything yet, but at some point I should, just for the knowledge.

>>584309330
Do you need spike pits in CLG? In BN regular deep pits still randomly cause damage.

>>584310049
I dont know, i dont plan on luring them there and the only time i saw an animal in one was a fox, which probably dodged the ground when it landed and took 0 damage or something.
>>584309756
Aw man. So we have retard DDA. Ultra hard CLG, and ultra no challenge CBN.

I shake the ground that you walk on

>>584310175
it's a problem in TLG how it's nearly impossible to engage any amount of melee combat without taking significant damage. Regular zombies should not be individually threatening, it makes progression agonizingly slow when you can't even loot a damn house without getting chip damage and significant pain.
One of the best aspects to cataclysm combat is how zombies are slow and stupid but incredibly threatening or even instant death in groups. Managing the horde is basically the core gameplay of the whole game. You need mid-end game armors to resist enough damage from a regular zombie for it to be worthwhile to fight them in straight up melee, that's just crazy.

>>584310175
>and ultra no challenge CBN
You know it has difficulty sliders/settings right?
I don't believe for a second that you've completed the game with the difficulty sliders and settings maxed out.

>>584313735
Yeah I never got that stance some people have. Do they not realize (last I checked) there's nothing stopping you from making a god character in DDA's character creator using default settings?
BN's default settings are good for average people who are relatively new to the game. For everyone else, you're supposed to pump up the enemy spawn rates, enable wander spawns, increase evolution speed, install difficulty mods, etc.

Run killed by glitch.
Double doors on vehicle caused it to become stuck between two reinforced concrete walls.

Debug no longer works properly, can't teleport the vehicle, summon it on overmap. Can't even work out how to delete it. Flm another perfectly good run ruined

>>584313735
Yeah but... pockets, and better UI.

>>584316998
>pockets
Personally for me, the straw that broke the camels back.
>better UI
If it involves me fiddling with a dozen different submenus to fit gear into my inventory, it's not better.
Still, that's just my opinion on those topics.
Neither of which has to do with difficulty sliders or settings.
Considering how high they can scale, I suspect that BNs is the hardest of the three branches.
I certainly wouldn't be capable of surviving a surrounded start with 50x spawns that have 10x hp,100x speed and crushing dmg. And that's not even touching evolution speed and chance or fiddling with the stamina penalties from attacking across z-levels.

Can someone explain pockets to me and why it's divided here
I've never touched cataclysm

>>584319836
Before pockets, you basically had a generic storage space, that increased or decreased depending on what storage your equipment had.
This wasn't realistic enough for the DDA devs, so they introduced a system of individual storage spaces for each item. They also added lenght and weight of stuff they could hold and length and width to items.
So before you could say, throw on two backpacks each with 15litre of storage and carry a 30ltire item, now you'd need a backpack with 30litre storage that was the right length/width.

>>584319836
Old DDA and Bright Nights have volume and weight limitations for inventory. You put on an uber giga military rucksack with 100 L volume - you can pack stuff like heavy machine guns or several jerrycans. Pockets are introduced to counter that. You still got that miraculous backpack? Well, it's separated into a main compartments and few pockets now with separate length limits respectively. Now cavalry pikes and battle rifles with a bayonet won't fit. BN still has a sort of a counter too: any significant storage gear increases encumbrance (gradual action penalties so a player wouldn't just wear everything) the more it gets filled.

>>584320330
That's crazy, I was already seething when I have to play inventory tetris in diablo 2

>>584319836
Imagine you have a backpack with 16 total "space".
Except that 16 total space is split between 4 different compartments, ie 4 different pockets.
And each of those pockets has different parameters, ie one of them has a length limit of 6 length per item and can only store 8 "space" total, and the three others have a length limit of 2 length per item and can only store 3.3 "space" total each.
It's stuff like this.

So you can open your inventory, see you still have 4 space remaining, and try to grab a box of flavored condoms. But it doesn't fit. Because the box of flavored condoms has a length of 3, barring it from the 3 smaller compartments, while the box compartment is nearly full, so it can't fit there either. So after spending several minutes shuffling the items in your pockets around to make space you remember you're playing a zombie game that has aliens and cyborgs and demons in it. And you wonder why you've spent several minutes in an inventory menu moving items around to make space for a box of flavored condoms, wondering if this the gameplay you wanted when you downloaded the game. Wondering if this is the kind of gritty survival mechanics you were after.
For some people it is. For many others, it isn't.

>>584319836
the game's inventory system. your inventory is divided into individual "pockets", like a backpack will have its main pocket and secondary pockets on the front or sides like a real backpack. Your ability to put things into the pockets is limited by the dimensions of that pocket, you can't put a baseball bat into a pants pocket because it's too long for example.

the main downside to it is you can't mindlessly packrat enormous quantities of junk like you could before, but the advantage is you can pack items into containers that you can carry or move freely. One of the best applications for it I have found is making big wooden crates to pack loot in and dragging it around.

>>584320447 (me)
Immediately noticed I fudged the numbers after hitting post but I'm too tired to fix it. You get the idea.

Filling my pocket rn

>>584320486
>One of the best applications for it I have found is making big wooden crates to pack loot in and dragging it around.
I've been doing this even before the pockets lol. Better do this than playing "what to drop" every encounter. Actually I did such city raid a gun store on foot at night. It's still way more thrilling than in any other "survival" games.

>>584324417
>>584320486
>>584320447
its so useful for autosorting and this gets glossed over. ever dropped your backpack to start stabbing zeds, gotten overwhelmed and gone to grab your handgun only to find theres "a hammer" or some useless tool in the holster, and your handguns in your backpack? thats what the priority/whitelisting is for. set that holster to ONLY either your specific gun, or the entire category of "gun", and now it will never have anything like "5 bandages" in its place. set your pants and jacket pockets to loose ammo, bandages, drugs and antiseptic bottles, and you can drop your backpack whenever and you wont be "caught out".
this works out great when just general looting. set a bottle or ziplock bag in your pants pocket, whitelist IT for bandages, and whitelist the pants pocket for THAT bottle. now, whenever you pick up ANY bandage, anywhere, at any time, it fills THAT bottle to its max capacity BEFORE putting the rest into your backpack/jacket. now your bandage supply just autorefills without you needing to even really check/think about it.

i can just...unload and drop everything from my pockets, jacket, jeans, drop leg pouches, backpack into one big ass random pile, pick it all up and it automatically sorts into the correct pockets. i can drop THAT mess of all my stuff, and drag it through a few piles of zombies, smashed cars, broken windows, and despite it now being an ugly, awful mix of shitloads of zombies loot, if i attempt to select all and carry, itll still fill my pockets and holster and drop leg pouches with the ammo/magazines/bandages/drugs, before attempting to fill the backpack with random garbage.

>>584328095
>ever dropped your backpack to start stabbing zeds, gotten overwhelmed and gone to grab your handgun only to find theres "a hammer" or some useless tool in the holster
No?
This wasn't a thing in DDA when I used to play it either. What the fuck did they do?

>>584328095
another one that pops up for me is the 100-200 round drum magazines you can get for some of the rifles. those will fit into a grenade pouch that you can attach to a chest rig, allowing you to just have up to 400 rounds ready to roll with like 120 moves to use, its kinda absurd. dont even both carrying loose ammo with me at that point, just dedicated my leg pouches to more loot space/meds, but you need to set it up because they are set to prioritize grenades over magazines.

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>>584328873
far out, i had to go so far back to find out why that wouldnt be a thing. in ellison, over six and a half years ago, holsters are hardcoded to only allow handguns, you cant store other items that would "fit". you have to manually select, activate the holster to put the gun into it every time. same with every magazine.

wew

Despa

>>584308712
Can bone glue fix a broken heart?

>>584330597
I dropped it just as pockets dropped.

>>584319836
One thing worth noting is that pockets were poorly implemented for a while and the dev response was to treat the players like they were trying to weasel out of the "new normal" and go back to ez-mode, instead of acknowledging they'd created disappearing items and weird nesting visibility and a hellish UI with no automation like most people who are attached to pockets now will brag about

>find big lake and a boat
>try boating out for the first time
>travel for a few minutes into barren open water
>shark zombie instantly appears with no warning, grabs and drags me into the water, no hope of making it back to boat
>die, 20+ hours wasted

wow how fun, nothing says good game design like instantly dying to something you have literally zero warning for. cause having shark zombies that are invisible until they are right next to you wasn't enough, they also had to give them a grabbing and dragging attack too just to make sure you die and have your time wasted.
What is it they expect you to do? never use boats ever because apparently you are at constant risk of being oneshot? only ever use boats if you build yet another tank vehicle first?

>>584351568
Yes you need a better boat for open waters. were you in a canoe or kayak? if you keep moving you can sometimes outpace them in those but if they catch up you die. Need a bigger boat.
>instant death
roguelikes? learning by dying is a common thing

>>584352334
>roguelikes? learning by dying is a common thing
except usually you aren't expected to perform dozens of hours of grinding first like you are in cataclysm. it's not a roguelike, it's an autistic survival game with permadeath, except it's also so poorly designed and dogshit that they have a multitude of enemies that are designed to instantly kill you after you have invested those hours into the grind.

I think I'll just play a game that respects my time instead.

>>584320413
thats the core gameplay loop in diablo, the fighting is secondary

>>584168463
How tf do I get good at Cogmind? I've gotten a basic win on the easier difficulties but on Rogue I keep getting my ass kicked by not knowing where to go or immediately getting assraped as soon as I enter a new floor (-5 and onwards).

>>584336337
I'll report back if I find one to try it on.

Wake up /rlg/, new autism just dropped https://store.steampowered.com/app/4274730/Roguefort/

It's fun :^)

>>584359670
>Early Access
I'll check back in 10 years.

>>584359670
>Survivalcraft open world roguelike

hmmm

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>You clean and lubricate your AR-15 +7.

>>584359670
Cubed and uninspired

so where are those labs everyone keeps mentioning? been playing on this world for like 40 hours and I don't see any building called lab

>>584351568
we fucking warned you about water bro

>>584351568
>wow how fun, nothing says good game design like instantly dying to something you have literally zero warning for.

It was realistic, next.

>>584366336
maybe dda removed them?

Good night, /rlg/

meh

>>584351568
>approaches deep water, something that obstructs visibility meaning anything could be hiding underneath
>specifically a lake, meaning there are many more tiles of open water on the lower z levels, meaning there's many things hiding underneath
>gets on a one-tidle-wide kayak that moves extremely slowly, meaning many things could easily catch up to and attack you from the sides
>doesn't think to test the waters or get water gear before departing
>goes as far out into the lake as he can
I refuse to believe someone with a 20 hour run would make such a mistake. Surely they've been near deep water tiles before and seen enemies hiding in them? Even pools and swamps can hide zombies.

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>You hear a faint sound from below as you kill this zombie.

the place is starting to look pretty weird
also the difficulty spike is pretty noticeable, the spell casters are zoning me out, ran out of molotovs and dynamite for breakthroughs already
i have 2 strange devices but have yet to discover how to use those

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>>584383916
im retarded

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>>584384282
fucking hell, these guys do not fuck around
tried to use a winchester rifle to snipe someone because i ran out of shotgun ammo and these guys basically casted spells to death

>>584385342
OutFuckin'Played.jaypeegee

>>584364849
How about 2-shot special in 7.62 caliber as a backup? I have a handmade carbine but the 7.62 conversion kit makes it use G3 mags... which can't be crafter without G3 itself, genius. So it will remain in 5.56 with stanag mags. Playing the stable BN version just in case.

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>>584391345
I dunno. Mine has a .22LR conversion thing

>turn eternal seasons on
>start at winter
>permanent night time
>set base temperature to -20 degrees
>wilderness and naked start
how do i beat this self imposed challenge? i dont want to rely on rng and hope i spawn near a structure.

>>584394852
Self impose a solution, nigga. It's your challenge.

>>584394852
Wouldn't rushing a fire be the only hope?

>>584391345
Maybe one of the devs will fix it
It seems to be an artifact of 7 or 8 years ago, when some contributor/dev/whoever went on the warpath and made sure that you couldn't craft ammo and magazines without a "casehead reference" and so on (Basically, if you want to make 9mm cartridges then you need a 9mm shell or magazine or gun to use as a reference) and that THAT was extended to all the makeshift magazines when they were added
"How could you make a shitty metal box with 5 bullets in it without having the exact brand and model gun right in front of you?"
It KIND of makes sense, except spaghetti code means that it's asking if you have a G3, not "a gun that needs a G3 magazine" for the crafting reqs.
With how shitty and prone to failure all the makeshift mags it would be it makes more sense to just let you craft them and use them in any gun, instead of makeshift G3 and makeshift M4 mags both having the same recipe and bullet count but being "different"

>>584385342
Uh...chaincasting Cleansing Fire would have helped. Much easier to use Occultists. Occultist benefits from more frequent power spikes.

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thought you people should know

>>584402409
/indie/ is a few doors down, mate. Thanks for the heads up though.

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>>584310003
I've mixed up a bunch more fertilized soil and the garden is slowly spreading on it's own onii-chan. The white pine is growing up well. Think I'll start spreading out a logging area with it once I can start harvesting it. Went around targeting spruce trees trying to see if I can get my hands on some more resin. Negative. The backpack halving the weight impact of tools has been nice. I've got almost enough feathers to make an upgraded bedroll so after the last of the planned buildings, a granite altar, I'll head out and see if I can find a chicken to lure back.

Seems like Rift Wizard 3 lost. Who could have predicted this?

>>584400161
>chaincasting Cleansing Fire would have helped
I tried to stagger it for max burn effect but it did absolutely fuckall.
It was 3 enemies: nitokris, dust vortex and a mummy. I only saw the undead at first, which is what I tried to snipe with the rifle assuming i could one-shot it, but it was like using the revolver against some lurking ooze.
Occultists are nice, I like the dark bolt and AoE spell. I thought I could benefit from the x2 perks at some breakpoints from the exorcist class but honestly it doesnt seem as good as the other classes. The built-in molotov is nice though.

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>>584406285
Upon kneeling at the altar I can offer runes. I can dabble in attempting to influence the forces at work in the shadows. I'm up to 41% curse. I'm guessing the bigger the buildup I'll get more effects. The last one I had was at 20% and I got a luck (still not "discovered" however) debuff and a spontaneous plant growth buff. It could be stronger effects instead. I'll find out eventually. Well, out to find a chicken.

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>>584408445
I've yet to find the chicken again, though I did find some stray eggshells. The real prize of the trip is the ripening spruce I've been harvesting the entire way. The cones break down into seeds, so that's a small forest I've collected, not to mention four whole resin. I think when I get back I'll take a look at working some metal.

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>>584411292
Alright, night has just fallen. I didn't get a curse, but I did get this message. This is after I found a Grey Wolf in the rough area I've seen a chicken. He stepped up and having my equipment in my bag was a good idea. He ran off and one last hit took him down. More glue and leather now. Need to head back to camp though, my axe is looking kind of rough and I've got metal to ponder.

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>>584413379
Not a chicken, but I'm bringing something back with me.

>>584407303
I actually just got past the Egypt level with a Ghoul gaming line of sight w Rod of Mist to prevent being burned and bursting him and the croc mummies with frenzy+maxed out melee.

Not sure how to use Exorcist properly. But I think the class has an exp advantage considering it's constant gain from destroying altars and shrines.

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>>584413585
So the hitching post allows me to sleep and not worry about something running off due to untaming. He eats seeds as well, and I've got plenty of those thanks to the grass I've been clearing. A little more planting here and it'll be full of spruce. I believe I understand that milestone I was showing off before, Runekeeper. I'm only noticing three different runes, but I've got 15/695. I think it's just getting runes at all will make it go up. The square one there I got while dismantling spruce cones into seeds.

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>>584417045
I've realized that for produce I wish to harvest, I need to have an empty row for access between two lanes. Otherwise I'm just trampling over everything to get to anything. I'll reformat it completely at some point, but for now I'll just move the fertile soil around a little.

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>>584418095
Oh, and the reason I got excited over getting a bunch of resin. I can patch up these pieces I found. It's morbin' time.

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>>584418227
Neato. Another branch to go down in the search for knowledge.

>>584382808
Not her but I really got to know Cataclysm in a very long run where the shelter was located just in front of a large river but never took the opportunity to try boats, which I could see drifting in the water. I acknowledged mutated monsters lived in there, yet in this new run I grabbed a kayak as soon I as I settled, followed the coast for a bit and got my arm broken trying to fight a mutated salmon.

There is a horde of like a hundred Z a few map tiles East, so if it comes visit me I'll still take my luck again with the kayak to relocate.

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>>584418325
Having a look at the parts box, it appears that I have access to an even better bedroll than I was going to use chicken's feathers on. I'll still need feathers for arrows eventually. For now stabbing most everything with my spear works well enough. Now for tinkering with metal. I don't know the stats on the clay crucible until I fire one, so I'll make that first so I can compare to the granite one. Should probably make some green sand as well and see what I need to do for casting.

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>>584419086
Granite one is crucible II. Now to light the furnace.

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>>584419590
It turns out that I don't need to cast tin or copper. I got frustrated and started searching keywords on the devblog to try and figure out how to begin. I even searched the discord. Well, at least I have equipment for when I get to more advanced metals.

>>584421639
i wish i was more into this. im too much a gunfag to play a roguelike thats purely swords/axes and shields. i NEED my rootytootymcshooty

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>>584421639
I have smelted ten each of tin and copper. Bronze isn't happening right now though. Eventually though, I'm sure. However, copper equipment is expensive so I'll need to head back into the underground to get more. I've made a copper pickaxe. I have also figured out how to to make a copper still to desalinate water. The granite dripstone takes 1750 turns to filter one container's worth of water. I'm hopeful that the still will be much faster, even if I have to fuel it. If so, I'm going to begin working on moving the camp to the beach and clearing out some of the inland surroundings for a farm. Not sure what to do with the ruined shack, but I might turn it into a barn.

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>>584351568
lmao outfuckinskilled.

ive never even seen a shark, does anyone know if they are just super rare, or was this anon going too slow or some shit

>>584424876
A bunch always around island prisons I think, otherwise they're kinda rare. Full speed on a cheap handmade paddleboat is enough to significantly outpace them, so either he got unlucky by rolling right up to one or he got cocky and slowed down/stayed in place long enough for one to reach him.

>>584424876
they are basically everywhere, you just can't see them unless they are in shallow water or literally right next to you in deep water. basically the only way to not die to one is to find a big boat, failing that literally never go into the water. because you know the game that's obsessed with realism also has you die from drowning after 30 seconds of swimming, and also has sharks in new england freshwater inland lakes.

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>>584424789
It's not much. I'm sure I'm nowhere near knowing how to make it. But there's black powder, so one would assume flintlocks and whatnot. Additionally the description for granite bullet says "...for slings and firearms."

>>584425178
>Full speed on a cheap handmade paddleboat is enough to significantly outpace them
that's definitely not true because I have had the sharks that surround the island prison kill me while doing like 20+ on a motorboat.

all of the water stuff in the game is ridiculously half baked. the movement penalties on the player and movement bonuses on water creatures are insanely high.

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>>584425260
>they are basically everywhere
>>584425178
>they're kinda rare

next run, or whenever i get the chance on a new character im gonna kill a fuckin shark or get fuckin killed by a shark

>>584425870
those two statements are not mutually exclusive

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>>584424790
This is a massive upgrade. Beach Bungalow project begins now.

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>>584425908
yeah but its funnier if i pretend otherwise

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>>584425404
Either those were modded or jawed terrors got nerfed in Babynights, because they can be lost at 13mph+ speed which is how fast a cheap paddleboat can go. Just tested it now with this thing

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>>584425974
Your blogging is making me want to check out Wayward again...

This is what is looked like back in version 2.1.1.6 a few years ago.
It seems they've changed some systems, I don't see the malign/benign aligment score on the UI but there's now "curse". I guess that's the same thing?

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>>584425974
Swam in the deep ocean a bit to get tired. Got tired as the sun was beginning to rise. Took a nap. Grabbing some food and drink on waking... it taunts me so.

>>584426162
I guess it's possible I ran straight into it, but in effect that's the same as them outrunning you because you can't see the fucking things until it's too late. The fact that you can't see them and they amount to instant death over deep water means the only way to avoid risking being oneshot is to drive a boat that has no open water tiles adjacent to the driver seat, and literally every premade boat design has that except the gigantic wooden yachts you can only find at marinas which are extremely rare. So basically the only way to prevent the risk of losing your run on the water is to build a custom boat or get extremely lucky.

>>584426889
Yep. I always get too lazy to shark-proof myself when doing island starts and just pray that nothing intercepts me on my way to mainland.

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>>584200952
>>584210375
Yeah, so, it seems like curse is more or less the old difficulty system.

Looks like they've hidden the stats but under the hood it's probably the same.
You have benignity/malignity scores that decay over time and are gained by destroying/creating. The difficulty is just benign minus malign, with 0 being the neutral value and negatives/positives increasing/lowering difficulty.
So you can essentially control the game's difficulty. Tame and farm for easymode, start killing everything when you wanna punch cthulthu while fishing at your pier.

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>>584427225
guyz I think I found something shark-proof enough in this lake

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>>584426649
From the information I read that referenced the reputation, I'm thinking it serves the same purpose in some different ways. Plus you can attempt to influence it using runes that spawn quite rarely when you perform different actions. I've not attempted to make contact with the weirdness yet myself. I'm enjoying how I think it functions. It's both boons and hindrances, even though it's "curse".

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>>584427626
Ah, ok. The other info from that tooltip is now in this thing while holding shift.

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>>584309330
With those bullets and the generous help of an oversized wasp guard and crater, i've carved into a small town with a pharmacy, gun store and library.
Got some good loot and 4 books i havent ready including science for kids, finally, i can train science.
Next, looting all the houses, then clearing the town for travel through. South of it is one of the hub quests; using a UPS rifle against a bot or something to bring it in alive.

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Vibecoding is pretty cool. I will NEVER release any of this—it’s all for personal use—but I’m “working” (kek) on a tool that shows me everything I “own” or have “interacted with,” and where it is, so I can build an inventory of what I have and compare it against crafting recipes.
Also, on the “cool shitpost I’ll never release” tier, I have my own personal Hitchhiker’s Guide that integrates info from TLG, BN, and regular DDA, and compares changes between them. Ask me any bullshit question.

(i asked it to rewrite my post as vibecoded as hell, it did good)

>>584428985
>“own” or have “interacted with,”
Aren't those basically the same thing? If you've interacted with it, it's in the base. This should also make comparing it against crafting recipes redundant, no?

>>584429214
>If you've interacted with it, it's in the base
depends on "interacted", but sorta. i mean, "have i seen it" vs "have i picked it up or moved it". id like it to tell me i saw something somewhere, if i ask, but not assume that literally anything ive seen personally is in my loot pool

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>>584429590
He's saying that he literally picks up every item. He's a hoarder.

>>584430027
My vehicle has 6000L of space and by god I'll use it.
My home has many tiles that hold 1000L of space each and by god I'll also use those too. I'll even build warehouse shelves to make some of them hold even more stuff.

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>>584430148
i had this issue as a kid. i learned to deal with it by just straight up breaking shit so it was "trash" and i could get over it. just fucking smash it and suddenly i didnt need to hoard it. terrible way to deal with it, but did it work? yes. my sister discovering weird furry pokemon bestiality porn in the wheres waldo book i didnt think anyone would pick out in my bookcase? took a lot longer to deal with.

>>584430148
I wasn't aware floor tiles had a limit of items they could hold, I thought furniture were only cosmetic. I've been playing this gayme non stop for about a month now and I still learn basic things about it

>>584430531
Oh I'm an anti-hoarder IRL. But that's because I don't need to craft an entire tech tree of bullshit just to craft yet more bullshit, all of which requires random bullshit in large quantities, most of which can only be reasonably acquired by dismantling yet more random bullshit, and you'll need all of this random bullshit in significant quantities

>>584431217
a lot of furniture is cosmetic, but some of the storage pieces do have added volume. and open square of ground has 1000L capacity, shelving has 1500, certain shelves and bookcases have 2000, and warehouse shelving has 3500 or 4000, can't remember.
It's not as useful as it might sound though because every tile no matter what has a hard limit of 4096 individual items, which you tend to hit way earlier than 2000L. For whatever reason containers do not have the 4096 limit though so I put all of my high quanitiy/low volume item into large wooden boxes.

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>>584431248
everything i own fits into a moderately sized backpack, i can flee at any moment and keep basically my entire life. maybe a huge over correction, but it is what it is.
>don't need to craft an entire tech tree of bullshit just to craft yet more bullshit, all of which requires random bullshit in large quantities, most of which can only be reasonably acquired by dismantling yet more random bullshit, and you'll need all of this random bullshit in significant quantities
r u havin a giggle

>>584431559
Oim giggling at my hoard which has everything a survivor could ever need that's what oim gigglin at. Why pick and choose what to loot from the electronics store when I can just grab everything? Drugs, yeah I got em, got em entire category set to autoloot ha ha.

>>584431885
sorry you gotta mention what part is irl and what is nor

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>too retarded for this game
>keep coming back because it's the only roguelike I actively enjoy

Humiliation ritual of making it to Research with at least 1 or 2 cool pieces of equipment knowing full well I'll get my ass beaten in roughly 100 to 1000 turns. Started mapping out the possible exits of each Depth as well as reliable sources for map info in some whiteboard software to hopefully come up with a somewhat consistent perfect path through the lower layers.

>>584432234
you aren't worthy of that information

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>>584432510
Drop this trash and pick up PUNK. It's if Cogmind was actually a good game.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2707980/PUNK/

>wormgirl massively increases the encumbrance on basically all armor
>now "she" just reduced the penalties of leg and foot encumbrance because players were going completely without leg/foot armor to avoid the punishing encumbrance

things that really make you question the competence of the designer. What was the motivation for increasing the encumbrance rating on armors in the first place then? they just felt low based on vibes?

>>584435129
Most game designers, even the ones you think are the best professionals in the industry, do massive balancing overcorrections based on nothing but vibes.
Such decisions are rarely data-driven, except maybe in online games with competitive elements.

>OMG THE GAME IS NOT LE BALANCED

The obsession with "balance" is one of the biggest misunderstandings in game design.

>>584436126
peak midwit take

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>>584433575
No offense and I think your game looks genuinely worth trying but they're very much going for different things lol if I wanted to play a shmup I'd boot up Mushihimesama or Devil Blade or something

>>584431559
>everything i own fits into a moderately sized backpack
IRL or in Cataclysm? What's your loadout?

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>>584433575
>open world bullet hell action
The obvious problem with this game is that it isn't competing with Cogmind, it's competing with Noita.