Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9653 - Bound by fire Edition==NEWS==>Discord server launched for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #17 - October 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>584132623
Krack melty and spamming herself now btw btw btw
Krack raped you
>bothering with a new thread at all
Do you think the new counter drift gadgets are good? Or should I still use quick charge gadgets
This will sound reductive, but if the "purists" are bothering so much you can just ignore them. You shouldn't get angry to a boiling point on 4chan. You know you are not going to convince them that Archie Shadow or SatAM Sonic or IDW Silver are accurate characterizations, why waste your breath? I don't really get doing that.
What are we sperging about tonight
>>584173280Doesn't matter, you'll be using Hyper Ring Engine whether you like it or not
>>584173354Let's sperg about AI
SometimesEvery once in a whileOccasionally some would even sayI like to make a long post about one or two controversial namefags that I know are currently posting on here because I know it gives me free (You)s and I get to watch the two tards fight each other for hours.Just every now and again. 4 teh lulz as one would say.
75 proves that Surge is tsundere for Sonic
Linke to the true previous thread >>584167220
*headpats your OC*
>>584173576Why directly to my post
>>584173354Modern Vector has been lying and is actually an alligator.
>Sonic isnt fun to play>Sonic promotes fascist behaviour>Sonic distracts and subdues the proletariat from the ongoing class war against the bourgeoisie
My Hello Kitty vibrator stopped working.
>>584173398Those got nerfed. The flat speed is gone. Only ring engine is the same if you put it the the new enhanced gadget slot https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_B2mHZUP6J6jeZfcwbM2HkLvjkwMYuACE4l6Ktt-UkI/edit?usp=drivesdk
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Why are the 2010s considered the end of the dark age when most of games were just as shit as before?
>>584173676Buddy, just because you post a picture with a Sonic on it doesn't magically make your text about video games. Also sorry about your loss.
>>584173740I thought 2010s was meta era which brought us gems like Lost World and Forces
>>584173826But I thought Hello Kitty was on topic for Sonic discussion.
Tell me a fact about a namefag from Sonic the Hedgehog General
Digger is such a weird movie
>>584174014I like Tails.
>>584173740"Dark Age" is less about quality of the games and more about the subject matter the games of that timeframe tackled. Stuff like genocide, war and military conspiracies and how they were radically different from what the games in the early 90s were like and put the "dark" in dark age.
>>584173737Yes, the hedgehog trio
>>584173898It's a meme, anon. A degrading mene. Towards Hello Kitty
>>584174059I prefer Coyote vs ACME
>>584173619Post Surge please
Yujiro rapes and gapes the entire Sonicverse.No like, he's literally going to rape them.
>>584174082>"Dark Age" is less about quality of the gamesIt absolutely is about the quality of the games. Shadow + Sonic 06 + Secret Rings + Unleashed + Black Knight are the core dark age games, Heroes included if you're bold, SA1 and SA2 are only included by Classicfags who hate everything known as "Modern Sonic"
>>584173859>>584174082I was there. Colors and Generations were considered the start of a new golden age before Shitga destroyed all their good will to chase the Wii U audience.
someone decompiled sa2 and put that sonic in minecraft
>>584173062>#91 panel if IDW was good
I'll cope with hoping Imada adds Silver to Bocas well as readin gactually good non sonic manga.
>>584174314
What does sthg think of the fanon interpretation Sonic is Rouge's gay best friend
>>584174594It feels like projecting Team Rocket onto Sonic and Rouge. If it isn't played too straight it isn't that bad.
>>584174556>I'll cope with hoping Imada adds Silver to BocThe problem with adding silver to the story is that he is tied to the stupid time travel plotand if you don't have any time travel plot then it is pretty much impossible to add him to the Boc manga
>>584174082Just make a Sonic-based GTA clone and a Sonic-based survival horror game, Sonic Team. That's what the kids actually want
This franchise needs to get worse desu.
>>584174594A boys icon shouldn't be gay. I have no problem if the audience is men and women, but Sonic is for kids.
>>584173062
>>584174594It's pretty obvious they fuck behind Amy's back
>>584174594Anything is better than the headcanon that Sonic and Rouge are fuckbuddies
>>584174284A movie that did so well (relatively speaking), the powers that be are thinking of resurrecting a cancelled Bugs, Daffy, and Lola spy movie.
>>584174896why is it okay for the audience to know straight people exists and wanna kiss like Amy does with Sonic but when it's gay people it's bad?
>>584174391>SA1 and SA2 are only included by ClassicfagsWouldn't those games also be included in the "rough transition into 3D" narrative which also characterizes the "dark age" critique?
>>584174714Maybe something gets destroyed in the past and it's up to silver to prevent that. Idk it's easier than to include blaze.I was about to praise Evan for improving on silver but Dapple in 91 ruined it
Alright this place is getting too slow and boring.PrimeArenafag, I call upon thee. Destroy this thread.
Please no. I would literally rather deal with a whole thread of Krack vs Slashy autism than that.
>>584174973Amy had him while Rouge was in the shitty friends vault
>>584175287Wait!FemtailsAIfag! Give me a werehog cuddling with femtails, and my life is yours!
>>584175109rough transition narrative is to blame on journalists who were still on the console wars mindset
>>584175109Yes, but they had "hype" and "aura" and "sauce" and you'll be mobbed by a pack of gen-z dipshits if you insist they were part of the problem
Fuck off Realdash
>>584175479kys woefag
Do you prefer SA1 or SA2?Sonic is cool
>>584175109>>584175530But Sonic DID have a rough transition. Still does with boostslop and everything.
>>584175530no the blame is on sonic team for making a bunch of shitty demos just to waste time, and on sega for letting them do that to the dreamcast's flagship game
>>584174812>3D privileged The idea that you have to be 3D or you are behind is literally a retarded mentality that killed sales for the company you moron. The Saturn did amazing in Japan and tons of games remained 2D in the following generations and did great.
>>584175804>The idea that you have to be 3D or you are behindThat's how it was on late 90s, yes. 101 market competition.
>>584175804> in JapanYeah, in Japan only and nowhere else, Sonic especially which never did well there, so that doesn't matter and Saturn is still a failure to the eyes of majority.
IDW would be more interesting if Surge was a tsundere
Classicucks90BoomeesModernMoronsAdventureAutistsDarkageDorksMetaMulesRogerRetardsIDWTranniesMovieMidgets
>>584174124lol fowlerposting dropped off a cliff when amy was revealed
Sonic had a rough everything.
>>584174594OoC also cringe
>>584175619they both suck ass for different reasons
>>584175530>still on the console wars mindset?Sega had more or less left the console space and was 3rd party by the time Sonic fully transitioned to 3D. Yeah the adventures were on Sega consoles, but I image most people and critics played the 3rd party era ports.
>>584175530Jap purist retard...
>>584176459Please not be joking. I feel like I'm the only person here who hates the adventure era.
Sonic had rough sex.
I wonder if the rumor that Ian sent his fans to attack fan sites hosting the Archie Sonic comics, causing those sites to shut down were true.
>>584176304FleetwayFagsArchieAnarchistsShogakuShitpostersCorocoroCuckolds
Why are you fags so sloooooooooooooow all of a sudden? Come on, wake the fuck up. I'm bored.
>>584176676been lurking
>>584175048>implying they haven't keep erasing that aspect od her character.
>>584174082SA2 and Shadow both have the tonal continuity of the Sonic franchise in a ball and chain.Gerald was executed via firing squad and there are multiple Shadow endings where Eggman and Sonic are bith heavily implicated to be killed alongside GUN agents.And somehow we gotta hold that in the same context as Eggman causing mass disasters and global and universal scale apocalypses.
I'm standing faster than you are running
>>584176885m-masaka...!
>>584175607That shit was literally the argument 90sfags used to say Sonic was better than Mario. Stfu lol. Muh BlastProcessing.https://youtu.be/bun8tA_ksZwhttps://youtu.be/HCQRcinZYH8
>>584175109Sonic Adventure 2's WALLRUNNER Mechanic was not known by many fans.It only matters in the World Record, and matters in stages like Final Rush and Green Forest.>What's the WALLRUNNER mechanic?It's what lets you run up/around walls. In certain levels like Green Forest and Final Rush, there are walls you can run on. In the case of Green Forest, you can literally run up trees to get further in the level.Pulling it off requires skill and is very true of Sonic.SA2 has some skill element to it that modern sonic games lack.
Hello /sthg/, I don't come here very often but I wanted to skip by and say SONIC FREAKING ROCKS! That's all, have a nice day.
>>584173062>>584143016Requests doneI did not know how to approach the Dapple and Blackwood one. Thanks for requesting.https://youtu.be/XDHtqDQ8XKg
>>584175619SA2 aka the better game
>>584177046The difference is they have ground on this since Genesis games are actually great with fun gameplay unlike Adventure shit that killed Sonic with artificial scripting and linear levels.
>>584175902And as it turned out, it was wrong because it lost them sales. It literally sabotaged the company because a lot of 2D games were coming out. Literally just making yout console have less games for no reason.Motherfucker then went on to Platstation and fucked em over too
>>584173062>>584174534> #91 if IDW was worse
>>584177261Thank you for drawing uwuver
>>584177261>didn't take my requestThis is why AI will replace you all.
>>584176490The issue is, the console wars had a deep impact of people's perception of Sonic even by the time it was over, Sonic games were judged under the scrutiny people who took sides in the war and wanted to dunk on Sonic because they were Nintendo fans back when they were children. Therefore looking at a bad Sonic game gave many the satisfaction of seeing Sonic fail
>>584177405>it was wrong because it lost them sales.Mario and Zelda sold pretty well thoughie.>Literally just making yout console have less games for no reason.Oh no less quantity and more quality how horrible. :(>Motherfucker then went on to Platstation and fucked em over tooPlaystation still sells gangbusters nowadays doever.
>>584176159There is literally no evidence that 2D had to be abandoned for the era. It was a forced meme. Nintendo itself didnt even make the n64 as a replacement for the SNES. It was made as a way to experiment with 3D games while still continuing to sell the SNES.The 3D embargo is still criticized til this very day. You didnt increase the consoles stock by literally just cucking your library.
>>584177261You should upload this to the booru, looks very cool, nicely done anon!
What's gonna happen to Blackwood in the coffin?
>>584177627>>584177405>>584175804>>584177627Why the fuck we have a /vr/ boomer here making a shitfestWhy do we keep attracting everyone outside like we're lights to flies
>>584177261Avast, yer made some nice booty, comrade. And Nine looks nice,too.
>>584177261I like how that's how Fiona and Silver's interaction played out in the comics
>>584177764Gay sex with gay duck
>>584177627>There is literally no evidence that 2D had to be abandoned for the era3D was new tech, people love novelty, many thus came in drove expecting more 3D.WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ROCKET SCIENCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>584177765No idea but it's been fun playing with this jester monkey.
>>584177758Fuck off, lizardfucker!
>>584177523This>>584177597>Mario and Zelda sold pretty well thoughieIt, Smash and nothing else. The N64 was a failure, chilled by uppermiddleclass American Nintenyearold boomers off the novelty factor alone.Mario64 sucked and im tired of motherfuckers pretending it was better than DoubleDash or DS.>Oh no less quantity and more quality how horrible. :(How does limiting your library increase the quality of it, retard? The Saturn in the Americas had neither.>Playstation still sells gangbustersOff of being carried by the disk format appealing to devs who needed more space for bigger games.
>>584177261Now upload it to the booru
>>584173062It would actually be funny if Imada did a silver/blaze chapter and it was well received after IDW made people hate it.
Sonic Adventure 2 doesn't have a good story and it didn't use the correct characterization for Sonic
Amy's efficacious and adventurous butthole~
>>584178107>>584178026
>>584177523Sonic had hating Mario, console wars right into his very core.
>>584178026Fuck off Duofag
>>584176551no, i'm dead serious. fuck those games. they're mediocre attempts at adapting sonic's gameplay to 3D, buried under shitty minigames and tons of scripting
>>584178247>>584178026
>>584177765Im not from outside, schizo.>>584177954>3D was new tech, people love novelty, many thus came in drove expecting more 3D.>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ROCKET SCIENCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEThis doesn't logically follow towards "no 2D games" you drooling imbecile. It was an out of touch corpo move that just fucked the library over for no reason. The Saturn wasn't fully capable of things like SA1 or 2 to begin with.Why cuck your pwn library when your consoles weakness is no fucking games?SoA sure as shit weren't capable of making any.
This is your average Sonicbab btw.>>584178081
>>584178307My least favorite thing is when people say the Adventure games are a perfect translation of the classic era gameplay
You shouldnt have posted FionaNow I have a raging boner
>>584178081>Mario64*MarioKart64But I dont like Mario64 either. Sent Platformers down a path of arrested development from which the genre hasn't fully recovered from even now.
Between Imada, Toyoda, Kishimoto and Makoto Goya which jp writer do you guys like or want to take over western ones?
>>584177046karma hit the sonic franchise like a brick
>>584178498None. Maekawa or bust.
>>584178498I want to see Kishimoto do an entirely original story in a Sonic game
>>584178197The console wars marketing was entirely a US thing. Sonic was made to compete with Mario but so were many things. Sonic wasn't made with hating g Mario at his core at all. Naka was a Mario fan.A lot of the narratives around Sonic I relation to Mario are post hockey mythologizing to play into the marketing.And to its credit, it worked, but it didnt really give him legs. It just got his foot in the door. And kt also put a giant target on Sonic's back as a consequence because it turned Sonic into a heel.
Wondering about posting #91 leaks on XitterEven with this shitty watermark
>>584178361they're sonic team's best attempt, which isn't saying much
>>584174594Nah.
>>584174594They should have some fun chemistry together, not romantic just strong teasing shitposting vibe, we need more of it.
>>584178498Imada all the way
Douge
>>584178806Just do it anonIDW really doesn't give a single fuck about someone posting leaks about their comic.
>>584177261Cute drawings. A shame I couldn't make a request.>>584178498Don't know if Imada could make a good game script since writing a manga is really different from writing a game. But it could go for a try with Imada working with Kishimoto.
>>584178806Holy milkers
>>584174534>>584177421The real Silvaze were the friends we made on the way
>>584177279Stfu lmao. You loved and played these games because of hype moments and aura just like the rest of us. This is just your copium attempt at saying "Hype moments and aura (90s)" gets a pass just because you say so.
>>584178621Entire youtubers made careers off of getting petty revenge on Sonic over it all.
>>584179204Insane copium zoomie, but like the other anon wanna imply, 3D ruined Sonic. Sorry!
>>584175048Shut up, faggot. Straight is the default in kids' stuff because the kids' know their parents love each other
There aren't any good Sonic stories.
Blade of Courage is better than IDW because it's actually written for boys and not mentally ill Tumblr women.
"Chemisty" is an overused buzzword gor people who want to insist characters have a good dynamic without having to actually substantiate why because they can't.
>>584173456The long callout drama posts are getting obvious and repetitive
>>584179482I grew up with the genesis games, on the genesis. Sonic 2 was my first game. Everyone liked Sonic because he was cool and going fast was fun.Most people weren't engaged with the games on the level of muhmentum autism romhacks.The average person still needs to be tolf about pressing down
>>584179537Cue the meme about modern entertainment just being used by woke millennial woman venting about their real life problems
>>584178498Imada. The rest are hacks.
>>584178361ProJared was correct when he said the Chao Garden is the main thing that made people have fond memories of the game.There are things to like about the games, but they are janky (could have been refined, but for some reason Sonic Team just gave up).
>>584177261Take it from a nigga from another general, your creative pursuits are the cornerstone of these threads. And not just your drawings but everyone who positively and creatively contributes to the thread. Never forget that. Okay, that's really all. Gotta blast!
>>584179740Incel men using entertainment for making gooning bimbo women with most barebones stories isn't any better.
>>584179837I don't much care for SA1 and as far as SA2 goes I honestly never spent more time in the Chao Garden than I needed to get emblems. It's fine, but I'd much rather spend my play time getting A ranks and stuff. I really don't think that view holds up to most people who played the Adventure games because I know most people never even played enough Chao Garden to do all of the races.
>>584179547"Chemistry" is just a code phrase for "These 2 characters look aesthetically pleasing together" without paying any regard to whether their personalities and temperaments mix well
>>584179204the hype moments and aura were because the games just fucking worked and sonic wasn't being constantly shuffled through speed booster chains and splines
>>584179547>>584180041Chemistry should mean their dynamic causes them to express their traits in an interesting way.
>>584179204>because of hype moments and auraWhich was something you MADE through all your manual controlling gameplay alone. Badnik bouncing, jumping off slopes for higher level terrain, time attacking etc.Adventure and forward has all that spectacle entirely on story because they knew they weren't competent enough to do that on gameplay alone. Classicfags were right on that.
>>584180143Well said
silvaze won cope
>>584177261Requester hereIt's better than anything I could've hoped for. Thanks drawfriend!
>>584180272Thank you
>>584178361There is no such thing because the things about Sonic that worked in 2D largely worked because of the context of 2D.The Adventure games were a more honest attempt at translating Sonic from 2D to 3D, up to the point where they realised that doing that wasnt enough because 3D also comes with not only its own hands but also opportunities.There are a lot of things in 2D that cant be done in 3D, but conversely there is a lot in 3D that you not only can, but in many instances HAVE to do to accommodate the shift in dimension and perspective.One of those things was using dashpads more liberally in the place of wallsprings.The other was more complex set pieces because NOT doing that frankly made no sense when doing that is the obvious benefit of 3D compared to 2D.Giving the player more things to do for basic progression is another. Giving the player more general combat and mobility options as well.
I beg you, please use my booru
Anyone who bashes the Adventure games are literally not Sonic fans.
Sonic + Alien: Isolation crossover. Make it happen, Sonic Team. Kids like dark survival horror games. They don't actually want kiddy stuff
>>584179729instead of people going back to the genesis games to get better at them, they wrote off the whole series because modernshit made the whole franchise a joke
>>584180143>>584180272So like Sonally?
>>584180360>>584178026
>>584179946no that is ABSOLUTELY better, at least they weren't pretending to be morally righteous
Hello
>>584180456People who autistically follow "reposting" are gay.
>>584180497You have to change Sonic's canon personality to make him have chemistry with Sally
>>584180497I think they're entertaining in SatAM. I'm one of those people that just doesn't see SatAM Sonic as Sonic though. I don't really feel concerned about him being IC or OOC. So yes.
>>584180576How rude. Not that guy but gays just want to fuck guys, they are not THAT faggy.
>>584180562Hai!!!!
>>584180689There's no "changing". Archie Sonic started as Archie Sonic, not game Sonic.
>>584180419Anyone who's first sonic game was on a nintendo console is literally not a sonic fan
>>584180497Sonally falls apart if you make Sonic even slightly in-character, Ian proved that himself.
>>584180562evening Kit anon
>>584179837That take was bad because the Chao Garden itself was not something you can fully engage with by only playing the Chao Garden.If you wanted Animals you went to thr Hunting stages and the best place to get Chaos Drives was is the shooting ones.I actually did spend a lot of time in the Chao Garden back in the day, but it was a thing that I saw as supporting the base game rather than the reason I played it.Whatsmore is in order to unlock more things for thr Chao Garden, you had to get more emblems anyway, which you have to actually complete missions for, so you have to engage with the actual game as a whole.With that said, I do think a lot of people disproportionately spammed City Escape, but like, that's every Sonic game really.
>>584180456i can smell the estrogen through the screen
>>584179729>I grew up with the genesis gamesEvery Sonic fan grows up with the Genesis games, they get ported to every fucking generation.Ironically, most oldfags didn't grow up with Sonic CD because it demanded you also have a Sega CD, which most people don't.
>>584180731Only gay people complain about insulting people by calling them gay. The men who have sex with other men don't care or laugh like children.Now quit being gay.
>>584180097>games just fucking workedSonic 1 works less than SA2.
>>584180758NTA but Archie Sonic is not a consistent character from beginning to end.
>>584180929>Ironically, most oldfags didn't grow up with Sonic CD because it demanded you also have a Sega CD, which most people don't.NTA. I had a 32X and Chaotix instead, but I did pick up the PC version of CD since I didn't have a Sega CD. I know I'm not "most" oldfags in that regard, though.
>>584180174You really seem to love this art.
>>584180562Hi!
>>584181112I don't blame them. It's really good art. I always stop scrolling to look when they post it. Probably the best thing that came from that Tailstube episode.
>>584180797If you started Sonic on GameCube you pretty much got access every game released at that point except for like Chaotix and SegaSonic, and like Tails and the Music Maker or whatever. You got all the old games without SoA's made up nonsense and marketing, if anything this is a purer experience than some little timmy in the 90s watching SatAM thinking this is related to the actual games.
>>584180456Between Tailspedos and Krack, who's worse?
>>584180456>>584181223God they're both so fucking hot I want to have sex with both of them repeatedly.
>>584180967sonic 1 expects you to pay attention
>>584181223Both are terrible in their own way.
>>584180097>sonic wasn't being constantly shuffled through speed booster chains and splineshttps://youtu.be/pyLh8hjg1Rw?t=31Classicbros?!?! Who put this Modern TRASH in our Classickinorino?!
>>584181290Noooo, you can't post that, everything after Green Hill is slooooow!>stomps feet, punches air
Everytime I see a cute picture of Tails I start getting funny feelings.
>>584180143But it usually doesn't. It usually means the person feels they can fudge them into a trope they like.>>584180041Even that isn't what's at the heart of it. See the above.
>>584180859I always did the Sonic and Shadow stages when I knew where the Chao Crates were to get the mythical animals, and then I would-Wait a second, Sonic's world just has skeletal dogs, unicorns, and dragons in addition to the phoenixes.Weird.
>>584181372It's like when people complain about floating platforms. Shit's always been there.
>>584181463
>>584181463Lyric
the fuck
>>584181463Anon, that's just porn. Don't worry, I didn't report it. I'm not gay.
>>584180236>Which was something you MADE through all your manual controlling gameplay aloneA yes the manual control of pressing down on a hill or hitting a wall spring and letting Jesus take the wheel. Totally not automation at all, its literally.me in control even tho im literslly not even controlling my character.Classic geriatrics made up a schizo religion based on defining themselves by what they believe they aren't, which is "modern trash" and made up just so rationalization ls to validate it.
>>584180497Double replying but I literally cannot take any of the pairings not addressed by Sonic team seriously in any way.
>>584181463The rope.
>>584180995It'd be crazy to expect a 100% consistent character through 20+ years. That's lunatic.
>>584177261BASED! THANKS ANON!up down up down shoot shoot shoothttps://youtu.be/ttrF_stIaW8?t=328
>>584181598lol
>>584181814Archie Sonic's characterization is literally disregarded from writer to writer. They will have him say polar opposite things for the sole purpose of shooting down each others' plots. Ian included.