High Elf Wizard Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>583818274
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Gorion's Ward once said:I am excited for DivinityIdle Champions of the Forgotten Realms is an official Dungeons & Dragons tm game.Minthara was based on Tom HollandMinthara is canonically 150 years old, pansexual and neutral evilI collect barrels and throw them at every boss including MintharaMinthara did not watch Viconia leave in her childhoodMinthara is the throat goatI respect all women but MintharaIf you romance Minthara you are a horrible personIf you romance Astarion you are a great personI ascended AstarionI romanced ascended AstarionI enjoy all the male companionsI play with LOTS of mods onI love editing the character's appearances with modsI fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved itShadowheart is right not to use her birthnameShadowheart is not chaotic evilShar is neutral evilGale was groomed by MystraI play sorcererI camp castYou cannot find Mayrina's brothers' corpsesKarlach is okay for using soul coinsWyll is a real characterI sympathized with KethericI play male TavI love using summonsI love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarvesAlfira and many other npcs would make good companionsThe only sluts in the party are Minthara and HalsinObsessing over an optional video game sex encounter for 3 years is pathetic
>mfw someone posts non-frog images in the frog general.
I hate w*ll so fucking much.
Digging these shots.
>>584231694nah i'm guessing they'll make the cast announcement in a couple months
bg3's director is vagueposting again, he always talk about the LA beach whenever he's about to announce something big, that's one of the first thing he brought up when bg3 was announced waaay back in 2019 and obviously talked about the beach when bg3 won goty and the year they revealed divinity, then he deleted the tweet because he spilled the beans lol, the LA beach is special to swen because they used to shill larian games at E3 even waaaay back then, good time, anyhow, we love larian <3
>>584231930Elves are Gods
>>584232684oh and that's obviously why we always start on a beach when starting a larian CRPG, something something metaphor for a new beginning, my favorite larian beach is in act 3 though
divinity on GOD
>>584232923on BHAAL*
>>584215628 No one brought up sexual attraction and you undermine your argument by doing so. I don't even disagree that there is a similarity in how Lae'zel and the non-character were written with deliberately poetic prose. Of course there is - they do share the same writer. But there is a meaningful difference between the githyanki warrior-poet who refers to herself as a child of Gith and a fraudulent warlock - his power unearned, by definition - who nicknames himself "the Blade of Frontiers." One speaks truth because she abhors falsehood. The other needs a vainglorious title even when he interacts with children. Whether a character comes off as "cringe" is a matter of opinion. That Lae'zel is more honest than the non-character is a self-evident fact. Although poetic and flowery language can certainly overlap, we ought to distinguish the poets who wield language effectively from frauds like "the Blade" who are only interested in convincing others (and themselves) that they are indeed someone. Haer'Dalis is an interesting example of a (male) poet whose language can certainly veer into "extremely flowery prose," but even that reflects (justified) theatricality. There is absolutely a place for poetry so long as it's not artificial. To conflate poetic with flowery prose or, worse, to consider them both unnecessary is a dangerous shortcut that degrades language and thought.>>584232051>>584232684>>584232896>>584232923Stop spamming worthless off-topic garbage, you insufferable parasite.
Divinity senpai Divinity blud on god
a baldur's gate 3 animethink about it
divinity news
>>584234031>To conflate poetic with flowery prose or, worse, to consider them both unnecessary is a dangerous shortcut that degrades language and thought.Well said.
>>584234031You're derailing by honing in on the character traits, and not the quality of the prose itself. Being "honest" doesn't make a character well-written. Astarion is an incredibly hypocritical and manipulative character, but he's well-written for the most part.Sexual attraction is very relevant to the discussion, because again, if Lae'zel were a male like Wyll, you'd very likely mock Kevin VanOrd's incredibly corny dialogue. Imagine if Wyll exclaimed to the sky that he wielded Helm's justice like a blade and roared his fury like a dragon! Well, it'd immediately become one of Wyll's many, many mocked lines. But Lae'zel is a female character, so VanOrd's usual flavor of cringe is ignored or accepted.This does also apply to Shadowheart and John Corcoran, but nobody here really seems to defend him. Basically, the writers win the lottery if they get assigned a female character. The standards are way, way lower writing wise.
>>584235501It isn't. He's defending VanOrd's amateurish writing because he's sexually attracted to the character. Well constructed prose is always appreciated. VanOrd's writing doesn't meet the bar.
pigschizo only likes female characters because he jerks off to them, yes
Shadowheart will make a return in Divinity
>>584236284>Imagine if Wyll exclaimed to the sky that he wielded Helm's justice like a blade and roared his fury like a dragon!NTA but the fact that you don't understand how this fits Lae'zel is wild. My opinion would be the same were she a male and has nothing to do with the fact that she's 'sexually attractive', because it is suggestive of doe-eyed, indoctrinated youth raised in the language of war slogans.
>>584237020she belongs to wotc and larian dropped them on bad terms so I doubt it, we're 1000% getting a jennifer english and neil cameo
>>584237279And something like that would perfectly fit Wyll too. Man, isn't Wyll's dialogue so great?
>>584237621I don't think it would, even from the 'fraudulent' angle. Can you really not pick out the difference?
male laezel would be DETESTED
>>584237782>male character asking you to fuck after talking about your sweat a few long rest after calling you racist slurs0.000001% romance rate
Male Shadowheart is the worst because she's the most girly
>>584238308best*
>>584237906I would give him a chance
>>584237775And Wyll is a naive youth raised on fantastical stories from his father. He already has tons of similar lines to that. By Balduran's breath and Vlaakith's blade, Kevin is a true word smith and genius.
>>584237906he'd get killed by 100% of the playerbase. no one would know what his story was kek
>>584232207>>584232374lae'zel, warrior of warriors
Why do characters who are popular with women ruined so fast?Astarion used to be so cool, now I can't stand Astarion anymore.
>>584240732because women
>>584240732don't worry everyone gonna get slopped out with the new comics
>>584241062Minsc is milked for years and I don't hate Minsc, I blame women. Women ruin popular characters.
>>584236284By "honest," I meant that Lae'zel's poetic side is not artificial - it doesn't manufacture a persona to present to the world. This is not a matter of interpretation so much as it is simple logic, unless you want to suggest Lae'zel would be concerned with impressing istik. In that sense, her githyanki identity is far more relevant than her gender. Male Lae'zel would still be honest, and a gender-swapped non-character would still be a fraud. Sexual attraction has nothing to do with this argument. The "quality of the prose" is secondary to whether it makes sense for the character and serves a narrative function. Lae'zel is poetic because she grew up with dreams of one day riding a red dragon and becoming Vlaakith's most trusted (silver) sword. Her heart of stone would not shatter if it were mere pretense. Haer'Dalis is poetic because of his sensibility as a bard and his belief in entropy and decay. We are all headed to our doom, little raven, and the best we can do is smile when the curtain falls. In both cases, poetry is no mere ornament that fluffs up an otherwise flat character - it is meaningful characterization in itself.
>>584236284>Being "honest" doesn't make a character well-writtennah it makes them likeable a trait required for being well written>if who cares
>>584237782Just to prove anon's point, i think that has a lot to do with male gith being unattractive.A conventionally attractive male gith could find some appeal if you cut down on the violent stuff and lean more into the warrior poet aspect.Imagine some alien chad knight pulling a female tav onto his dragon steed to ride off into space while reciting some gith poetry.
>i like X>wELl iF X is Y yoU WoUldn'T lIek Xwhat even is this fag talking about
>>584237782>male laezel would be DETESTEDBecause he's short... Short men are subhuman to women. They love Karniss and Dror Ragzlin, did you know?
>>584242015Dror Ragzlin looks like a horse. The fetish is explained.
>>584240732>>584241163>>584242015waaaaaa waaa women!!
>>584242298Giths and short race men will always be subhuman to female players
>>584241743I have a femboy male gith mod face I like alot. Male Laezel could work but he would a acquired taste and treated like how men sperg out about Astarion or Gale hitting on you.
>>584242467Deluded. Male gith would be even less popular than Wyll, they are too short.
>>584242702they all have the same height except for midgets/dragonborns, the big body types anon
>>584242702>>584242893opened my game. I think you mean the male gith are too anorexic, not short
>>584241321>I meant that Lae'zel's poetic side is not artificial - it doesn't manufacture a persona to present to the world.Again, this is irrelevant. Conceptually, a character with an artificial persona is fine, but these have nothing to do with my complaints, of which I have two major ones. The first one is that Kevin VanOrd struggles to make distinct character voices. Why do both Lae'zel and Wyll have extremely similar flowery prose, similar common interjections like "by Vlaakith's blade" and "by Balduran's bones", a similar cadence, etc? Because Kevin has a low skill level in this area. He spent his career as a game journalist, so for decades, he only ever had to worry about his own personal voice, not the voices of several characters. Maybe he'll improve, maybe not. He uses flowery prose in his own personal writing, and that's why it shows up in his characters.Of course, the second major complaint revolves around the quality of the sentences, metaphors, the telling and not showing emotions, structure, etc. His writing tends to be very corny and awkward. The problem is he clearly wants to be a clever word smith, but he's not particularly good at it.
Also, it amazes me that we can easily recognize John Corcoran's corny writing in this general, ie "You can't cast a shadow without some light", but VanOrd's corny writing is fiercely defended.It makes no sense to me. The two writers are about on the same skill level.
lae'zel's superiority causing controversy (again)
is this general made up bots that just repeat the same text everyday
>>584246614To be fair, dumbest lines he has written are tied to the Shadowheart's name.The game being self aware of how much of a dumb name it is, doesn't make it better.
>>584247025no but there are plenty of stupid copypasta fags
>>584246614irony poisoned fags deserve to diebg3 taking itself seriously is the best thing about it's writing
john bad shadowheart lines cringe! did I tell you this yet?
>>584241986this is a sign of low iq
>>584248798yes attempting to assert x = y is dumb and low iq
>>584241986this suggests that the make-or-break for liking lae'zel is that she is female
>>584248924low iq people cant understand hypotheticals anon
which is patently untrue
how come you wouldn't like male'zel then?
>i like women>well if a woman is a man you wouldn't like her...yes? that's how normal people are
so we're confirming that you only like lae'zel because she's a woman
>>584249538Toadcel already admitted he only likes Laezel because shes his waifu. He doesn't care for her writing AT ALL
>>584249395lots of people like astarion even if theyre not attracted to him tho
see normal people don't see the world as black and white thobeing a woman is part of the characterbeing funny is part of the characterbeing monogamous is part of the character>>584249675no?
>>584249675actually i take it back i like him as a comedic he talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded character
>>584249752this is black and white thinking lol. everyone else can imagine male laezel and how that might effect the reception
toadcel is shallow we know this
we can talk hypotheticalswhat if shadowheart was monogamousWAIT NO NOT THAT HYPOTHETICAL
He also only likes Laezel because she raises another person's egg and that is motherly to him kek
>people are shittalking lae'zel?>WHAT ABOUT SHART?!?lol
>>584250237there'd be hundreds of shartfags in this thread right now. see? that wasn't that hard
i thought i only liked frog cause pics of them make you mad
>>584250348he will probably start cuckspamming
>>584250387see but they wouldn't be shartership of thesus if you changed a character the character is no longer that character and therefor don't exist
>>584250462no amount of deflection will change her boasting about her sterility and him raising her wife's son
>>584250530i don't care abotu shart but dont you guys say shes only poly in act 3? its not hard to imagine a full mono shart. its not that hard to imagine male laezel either. but a hypothetical is a hypothetical. its not real its a thought experiment
>>584250772Toadcel imagines he impregnated that egg into her cloaca
>>584250462better than posting the burn victim 24/7 desu
>>584239260>lae'zel, warrior of warriors>dies to the shadow curseShe made it to act 2 ill give her that
>>584251125the discussion is>the character isn't that character if you change aspects of it>its just a thinly veiled attack on the best character (with some writer attack on the side)>and the rejection of the discussion cause its retarded (this is the part that gets the agitator really mad)>>584251354see this guy is the cuckspammer he loves it
so what aspect of lae'zel's character would being male change irreconcilably>the egg!stepdad, nothing changes
all this shitposting reminded me does anyone have that shart laezel egg laying image? it was one of the funniest things i ever saw here and i regret not saving it
>>584251689laezel didnt lay the egg anyway why would being male change that storyline
cause it really boils down to>low quality bait>nah that's fuckin retarded>yOu Are Too reTarDeD to enTeRTain hyPotheTicals (very very mad)
>>584251537do you consider mintharafag to be an agitator when he writes about john
>male'zel is such a bad option that it's considered low quality bait
divinity with wyll from bg3
>>584252291keep up anon we're talking about the hypothetical if shadowheart wasn't a whore!>>584252196whichever answer makes you the agitator more upset
>keep up we're talking about my deflection!hmm... nyo
>too slow to keep upXE'S LOW IQ!XIS MALE PATTERN BALDING IS SHOWING!
talking about male'zel really riled you up huh
>>584252291toadcels don't care about her writing
>receding hairlines out of nowhere
>>584252457i think he's mad someone didn't like laezel. now he has to paint them as a troll even tho its obv that anon geniunely thought the writing was shit
he won
>>584253231why is he prettier then real'zel
because you have the gay
Toadcel always reduces Astarion to a funny sounding fag and Shart to Halsin. I don't think he can understand writing generally.
>>584231930Rogue Trader was more fun than this. Level 1 D&D is boring
>>584253559let's not pretend that shadowheart was this amazingly written gem of a character her writer had so little to say he brought back viconia
>>584253440well he has a nose for one
>>584253843wasn't my point johnschizo
john corcoCHAD
swag
>>584255398cute
...
>>584231930Who is she?
>>584242015The inquisitor is taller than other gith, maybe he'd be a popular companion.
>>584243859Gith are supposed to look wiry, the trve problem is the men have hankiest of hank hill asses.
While it is true that male Lae'zel would be less popular, I think it's important to remember that an otherwise identical male Lae'zel also wouldn't exist. When a writer sits down to write a character in a popular piece of media, he or she will generally write the character to be liked. Obviously some literature involves characters that the audience is supposed to dislike, but we're talking in general, about videogames with romance characters. Most characters that are romanceable are written with the intent for some amount of players to like them.This is true for Lae'zel. When someone meets a woman who is tough, serious, blunt, disciplined, and such things, some portion of men say "What a cool woman!" because these traits are not super common in fictional women and they've decided they look for them. None of this works of it's a male with these traits, because these are conventional fictional male traits. It doesn't stand out anymore. So when Kevin sits down to write a male githyanki that appeals to women, he would not write him the same way he wrote a female gith designed to appeal to men. Male'zel would be fundamentally different in other ways than just physical sex, from the ground up. A romance designed to appeal to women would not have the guy start talking about licking them and fucking them on the first date and the things Lae'zel does. Ok some number of them would and some number of women would like that, but you get the point, we're talking about large averages.And while we're on the topic, I do think Kev is better than John. When you look at Kev's social media, he's a hookup culture grindr group sex orgy gay furry with "cubs" he has group sex with on weekends. But Kev didn't let any of that seep into his character writing. Lae'zel is the most monogamous character in the game next to Wyll and Minthara. Meanwhile John's characters are full of his self inserting. So at the very least, Kev has my respect for separating himself from his character.
>>584265926>the guy start talking about licking them and fucking them on the first datewhy not? gale talks about your musk and astarion talks about sucking you. laezel is actually quite masculine already. now if we were talking about shart i'd agree. she's girly on purpose cause she's a girl. i don't think john is self inserting when shart talks about her hair routine or expensive silk or eye shadow. ironically laezel never talks about her hair from what i remember even tho shes a woman with a pretty complicated hairstyle. maybe kevin didnt know how to write it
why does manthyfag think laezel is straight. she makes it quite clear she's into power over anything else
I like how John Corcoran is married with a wife, but the namefag always accuses him of secretly being a bisexual poly furry who uses Halsin as a self-insert. This is also the sole criteria listed when he declares Kevin VanOrd is "better" than John Corcoran. I don't think self-inserting is actually the issue here, because if John had simply made Shadowheart solely monogamous, the namefag would not be angry. Forget about the character's arc, voice, structure, or general quality, their sexual preferences are all that matters.My God, this place is so unserious.
Mintharafag has never said Lae'zel is straight, and he has never said John is gay bisexual or a furry. You people are a parody of yourselves.
>>584268178This place has the same argument every single day. >John Corcoran is married with a wifeDamn he did something millionaire genius Mantharafag will NEVER do, have a real relationship.
>>584268406He lauded Kevin VanOrd for making Lae'zel monogamous before castigating John Corcoran for "self-inserting" in his characters. Obviously, the implication here is that John is a complete degenerate in his personal life and self-inserts as Halsin, who is a bisexual poly furry.
>>584268406>>584268743Im not talking about John you retard.If you mean the camp party Manthyfag, Laezel has no female options to les out with. Shart and her are still at odds and Karlach can't touch her but you assume Laezel is straight
>>584268406You can just link the post where I said Lae'zel is attracted to certain traits rather than certain sex/gender >>450336960. The shitposters here literally just make up shit all the time. The constant lying that lowers the quality of discourse here is part of why there's like 5 people here now.And they were literally just caught in a blatant lie, claiming I said the exact opposite of what I actually said and there's receipts tro prove it, but literally nothing will change. Being caught in a lie like this doesn't matter to these people, this exact same kind of thing has happened several times before, they never change or learn. They're not here for discourse or love of bg3, they're literally just shitposters who operate on lies. I pray for them that they find something to do or get out of whatever depression causes this kind of behavior.
>>584269067Mantroon are you more successful than John? Laezel isn't straight either
>>584269067i like how you focused on the one confused retard and ignored the more reasonable criticism
They are all pansexual I think your nemesis John said that :)
>>584268872Obviously, I'm talking about the namefag and not you.
the only bgg regulars left:>cuckschizo>frogfag>divinityfag>pigschizo>mintharafag>shartfagplus a few others who keep a low profile
please make all the divinity waifus be into poly and not want marriage
>>584267727On behalf of a general he used to shit up 14 hours per day, we thank you and /crpgg/ for taking on this burden
>what Mintharafag said regarding Lae'zel's sexual orientation is correct and is not what the current shitposter claimed it was>mysterious "third party" chimes in to agree with the shitposter who was just proven wrongI'm nooooticing
>>584276278He's not going to let you fuck m8
>>584265926>While it is true that male Lae'zel would be less popular, I think it's important to remember that an otherwise identical male Lae'zel also wouldn't exist.yes what i said>>584250530
>>584276278That guy is clearly samefagging but I think it was this statement from Mintharafag that clearly set him off.>he would not write him the same way he wrote a female gith designed to appeal to men Mintharafag stated that VanOrd wrote Lae'zel in a heteronormative way and that she was designed to appeal to men. That's not right and someone should push back on that, but the samefagger can't really articulate his points well. In my opinion, VanOrd clearly wrote her as pansexual. She's wasn't specifically designed to appeal to men.
manfag is the one samefagging
He leaves to jerk off for 20 minutes then comes back to back to defend and agree with himself. He's so predictable. Pigschizo will pop in next.
>>584276452I don't think that would be a ship of Thesseus situation. If Shart was otherwise the same and just didn't have the Halsin lust in act 3, it would be the character simply being consistent with her act 2 line that she wants a monogamous relationship. When your relationship is developing in act 2, you have the opportunity to cheat on her or ask her for an open relationship, and she says she's "not the third wheel type", which is a statement regarding what sort of relationship she wants. So when you swing into act 3 and suddenly she actually enthusiastically encourages you to have sex with Halsin in camp and she actually tells you about her daydreaming about sex with Halsin and then thirdly can tell you about her sexual dreams with Halsin, it feels a bit inconsistent. An author should try not to have inconsistencies and direct contradictions in what characters say and do, unless the character is being written intentionally to be schizophrenic or something along those lines, which I don't think is the case here. Shart's recovery from her cult life starts in act 1 when she touches grass, and it's mostly consistent and gradual throughout the game.>she's vulnerable and just going alongNope, she disapproves of turning down the orgies.>but you instigate itNope, she tells you about dreams and daydreaming she's already had before you ask.The character is just inconsistent in this regard. And it's all centered around John wanting her to lust after Halsin. So if you just changed that one thing, it wouldn't be a ship of Thesseus, it would be more consistent.>>584276989Literally not true and the proof has already been posted >>450336960. Your entire premise is false. She has always been race/gender agnostic and I literally explicitly said that and linked you when I said it.
>>584277427See I am RIGHT. He has to samefag to himself and he made it about his Shadowheart hatred>>584277496Just kill her and Halsin you fucking retard, the game doesn't force you to use either
>>584277496I just read that linked post for the first time. I apologize for getting what you said wrong. I agree with your take.
>>584277496Every single week you complain about Shadowheart. I will never believe that you have a fulfilling life
>>584277496Your assertion that Lae'zel was "designed to appeal to men" is obviously not correct and it's not the way VanOrd built the character. And yes, you did just say that.>So when Kevin sits down to write a male githyanki that appeals to women, he would not write him the same way he wrote a female gith designed to appeal to menLet's not lie now. I didn't say you thought she was straight, the samefagger did, but in my opinion the samefagger was simply misspeaking and making his points poorly. Now when you consider that Kevin wanted her to appeal to both genders, your initial point falls apart. He actually could flip Lae'zel's gender quite easily. If Male'zel was also meant to appeal to men, why can't he like the player's sweat? Why would Kevin write him differently?
>When someone meets a woman who is tough, serious, blunt, disciplined, and such things, some portion of men say "What a cool woman!" because these traits are not super common in fictional women and they've decided they look for them. None of this works of it's a male with these traits, because these are conventional fictional male traits.>people wouldn't like a "conventional male" in the middle of a bunch of freakshit companionsuh huh
>>584278140the conclusion applies to you too since you complain about him complaining all the time
>>584278237I assume you mean I was samefagging because someone replied to me. Are you arguing with yourself Manthyfag again or are you one of his fans?
Laezel isn't straight because she wants to raise a child too
karlach is poly in act 1 and randomly isn't later. shart isn't poly in act 1 or 2 and randomly is in act 3. larian please explain this
>kill the owlbear and leave the cub alive>run away>come back later>owlbear cub is dead>""allies"": we survived!i should have killed them
>>584279215why are you evil
>>584278447yea that made me lol. women would love a guy like that if he was hot. now a male gith would be ugly as shit. all women would hate him no matter what
>>584279386what is evil? what is good?
>>584278115I'm not used to this maturity...>>584278237All of the bg3 characters are written in such a way that any sex can enjoy them, and they in turn can pair with any sex. But let's not pretend that when an author writes a male character romance, they're not primarily thinking of straight women. And when an author writes a female character's romance, they're not primarily thinking of straight men. If you want your character to be broadly appealing, you would do this. Most people do it by default and don't really think about it. Because homosexuals are a single-digit portion of the population, it just makes sense to do it this way, and most people do it this way. Even progressive companies like Bioware and Larian still mostly make male-appealing females and female-appealing males. Even if the characters are playersexual.Notice how Lae'zel, Karlach, Minthara, all talk abouts ex and have sex early? Notice how even the slower romance was changed to be a poly swinger in act 3?Notice how Gale and Wyll both want marriage and talk about getting married as important scenes in their romance?These are all stereotypical male-appealing things (SEX SEX SEX) and female appealing things (I am a responsible stable man who wants to marry you). These are all written with sterotypical, straight appealing aspects even if the characters are playersexual and Larian includes a bunch of stuff elsewhere to be progressive.As I already said, of course there are men who want marriage first, and of course there are women who want Male'zel to lick them head to toe on the first date. We're talking about broad averages and stereotypes. Male character romances are written differently than female character romances.As I already said, Male'zel would have some number of fans, but it would be a lot smaller than Fem'zel has, and that's not just because more men play videogames than women (in other words, he would have fewer fans per capita).
>>584279545killing a mommy infront of its child is evil
curious lack of Astarion in the middle of that despite being the most female-appealing romance option bar none
>>584279694Remember when you called all the BG3 women whores for not wanting marriage. I DO. Anyway John is married so he probably knows more than you do about relationships.
>>584279814should i have killed the baby first, then?
moshi moshi, furogu desu
>>584279694> But let's not pretend that when an author writes a male character romance, they're not primarily thinking of straight women. And when an author writes a female character's romance, they're not primarily thinking of straight men.Well, no. I don't think Kevin VanOrd did that. I think you'd be way more likely to do that if you were straight yourself, but Kevin VanOrd is a gay man. He specifically had Lae'zel fucking Vlaakith in her dreams in Early Access. If you look at his social media or any of his interviews, he has an odd fixation on pairing Lae'zel with Shadowheart. I don't think he wrote her to specifically to appeal to men. Honestly, I think he was writing her more in line with what he thought a "githyanki" should be sexually, and there wasn't any specific consideration to the sex of the player audience. Also, I don't think he would have made any significant changes if Lae'zel were male.
>>584280235Don't kill either
>Play paladin>Get bored by Act 2 since gameplay revolves completely around divine smites>Restart a billion times trying other classes/subclasses>Nothing hits me as good as paladin didFuck
>>584280468I don't think he would make significant changes to the character if it were Male'zel either, becausde I'm talking about trends, and also that's not what I said. Because Lazy being a githyanki first and a female second is a fine way to design a character and that never was something I disagreed with, and in fact it's the way it should be. What I said is that Male'zel would be less popular than Fem'zel, per capita. When you asked, I explained that Lae'zel (of either sex) romance contains more male-appealing things than female-appealing things. If Lae'zel were a genderless blob, it's words and actions are more appealing to men than women. If you put them in a male body, a relatively smaller portion of women would go for him. If you put them in a female body, a relatively larger portion of men would go for it.This same process can be applied to any of them.Men would love female Astarion, because female Astarion contains both easy sex and I Can Fix Her.Men wouldn't like female Wyll, because most modern men don't like courtship dancing and talking about marriage on the second date.Women would love Maleheart, because the entire thing is "I can fix him".And before we start, almost none of these apply to me personally. I'm talking about trends. I tend not to agree with the prevailing notion among modern men on these sorts of things. I would love female Wyll because I share their views on marriage, and I would dislike female Halsin for the exact same reasons I dislike male Halsin. I would enjoy the company of female Astarion for the same reasons I enjoy the company of male Astarion, but I would not romance either of them, I would be friends with both of them (because you can "fix" him through friendship).
>>584281798kill yourself troon
>>584280582should i just die, then?
>>584282192no, accept that they are dead due to your actions
yeah I ain't reading all thatI'm happy for you, or sorry that happened
>>584280404
>>584283212is a time for a spaghetti. are you a hungry?
>>584283797
>>584281798You don't know what women want
female Astarion would be funny because every man romancing her would pick the rape option and then be mad and confused when she breaks up with you
>>584284384that would be an unrealistic depictions of women
>>584284384That would be ok though, because that would the consequences of their own actions and they would be choosing something insensitive and the person they were insensitive towards reacts realistically.The thing with Shart, is a person reasonably could say "Ah, Shart told me she's not the third wheel type just a couple hours ago, so I'll see how she shoots down this orgy proposal" and instead she dumps that she's actually already been dreaming of this.Lazy, Wyll, Gale, Minth all shoot down the orgy. Shart says she's not the third wheel type, so a logical person might assume she's in that group. The surprise makes it feel weird.Hell, even Karlach, who does uniroincally dream of group sex and you already know that, doesn't really like the brothel. And even Spawnstarion, who says he's fine, ends up with a 1000 yard state and dissociates. Almost no one except Halsin actually likes the brothel. But Shart is added to the list, because guess who also wrote her in addition to Halsin. It's funny how simple this all is yet people still disagree or act like noticing these things makes you a conspiracy theorist or whatever.
>>584284943>That would be ok though, because that would the consequences of their own actions and they would be choosing something insensitive and the person they were insensitive towards reacts realistically.In reality what would have happend is they would have all bitched so much about it when the game first came out Larian would have caved and changed it so that she doesn't break up with you
>>584284943>how can I make this post about Astarion about ShartYou need help
>>584285234physician heal thyself
>>584284384I know exactly what scene you are talking about it is not brothel. My friend pressured him into sex in act 2 and he dumped her and she felt bad about it. I think FemAstarion would be popular but you would get incel virgins crying about his body count. We have one in the thread right now!
>"Ah, Shart told me she's not the third wheel type just a couple hours ago, so I'll see how she shoots down this orgy proposal"one's talking about casual sex, which she also says she's fine with in the same act, and the other's talking about relationships
Astarion dumps you if you force him to have sex?That's cool but did you know Shart is a whore who loves brothels and I hate her blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I hate women.
That Halsin shit was added in last minute. Who cares, just ignore it as fanfiction added into the game for the fangirls. What was actually sad was Shart's reaction to getting cheated on with Mizora. Like woman, get some self-respect.
>>584283905
Why do people dislike her again?
>>584295417is this a question or just a minthara appreciation post
>>584295417cute Minty!
58 days left yall
>>584295417I like her but she doesn't have a story and she gotta be the victim of the DUMBEST MOST RETARDED FUCKING CHANGE after release, the only companion that's fully evil from start to finish who used to be an absolute cultist should NOT be recruitable by good tavs, it's that simple in any logical setting minthara would have betrayed the player and would try to get the artifact for herself or try to straight up control the brain it's awful and I hate the person that proposed that idea and the one that approved of it
>>584303115bg3 made her easy to recruit bad example
bitched about every companion being bi again award
>>584303793he's not wrong
The characters should all be straightexcept Astarion
The characters should all be gayexcept Wyll
wyll lives in the gay part of town
>he saved his own post
>>584244353>Again, this is irrelevant.What is irrelevant is the writer's ability outside this game. Maybe he struck gold in writing Lae'zel almost by accident. Maybe he spent all of his creativity on that companion, and that explains the sorry state of the non-character. Maybe he will never outdo himself again. Maybe all that matters is that one character in that one game who resonates with you, whether they are named Lae'zel, or Shadowheart, or Minthara, or Astarion. I see little point in grading writers like a teacher, and I leave the speculation of his future success or failure to those who merely want to go on a tangent.>>584247137I don't even hate this line. Maybe it's my contrarian streak speaking.>>584265926Good post, as always. Gender-swapping a character in isolation often has limited value even as a thought experiment. Sometimes, it can erase the character completely, such as with Minthara - a female drow and a male drow are obviously not interchangeable in an intensely matriarchal society. Gender matters insofar as we understand that it is not merely a costume that is decided and swapped on a whim depending on the mood or the weather. With gender comes expectations, including from the characters involved in a romance. I would expect the average player character to have certain expectations of Lae'zel as a woman, particularly when it comes to courtship. In other words, gender matters even in a fictional setting where men and women are presumably treated equally, if only because social (and romantic) relationships would still be filtered through gender. I have to nitpick one point, however. I don't believe Lae'zel was well-received by her fans simply because of an unusual combination of traits in a female character. In fact, her sort-of-tsundere side is typically female. Male tsundere characters exist, but they are themselves a (rare) gender reversal of the archetype - with all the expected pitfalls that you've mentioned.
>>584306380he ignores you half the time too lmao. MALE DIVINITY LIZARD SEX
>In fact, her sort-of-tsundere side is typically female. Male tsundere characters exist, but they are themselves a (rare) gender reversal of the archetype - with all the expected pitfalls that you've mentioned.
>>584306785pigschizo does not watch anime, male tsunderes are super common
>>584307043>pigschizoWhat's the story here?
>>584307043yeah it's hardly a gender thing it's literally a character archetype>>584307410old /bgg/ lore not worth remembering
I like Minthara, but I think her biggest and most vocal fans don't understand her and never look past the surface level mommy dommy meme.If you look past the act she puts up, she comes across as pretty pathetic.She comes from a third world shithole where she was born into a high social position, lost it all by falling for the most obvious trap ever set, and now spends her time seething about what she lost, complaining about the existence of a somewhat functional society, and trying to look down on characters who've actually accomplished something in their lives.
>>584307410a schizo who uses AI to write garbage like this >>584306380 he hates every male character and he used to spam pigs to shit on another poster who is gone now
I don't miss the fetus & pig gore era of /bgg/ not gonna lie
>>584308029I'll never forget what he did
>>584304857lol you fucking saved it. I forgot I wrote that shit. bravo
I don't really need Mintharafag to acknowledge me or my posts. I'm content knowing that they participate in the discussion I started and pick up on relevant points, just as I pick up on what they say. (For example, the term "courtship.") The namefag is a good poster and I have no issue voicing that. As I've said before, the exercise of organizing my thoughts is enjoyable in itself and needs no reply. Something I suspect is incomprehensible to the worthless parasite and its ilk, profoundly stupid creatures obsessed with insipid tweets and how many likes and (You)s they can get.>>584307410I used to call out a subhuman that used to make fun of Astarion being sexually abused when it was still posting. That subhuman became associated with slop, hence the porcine moniker. I still call out the subhuman parasite for claiming Mystra is a pedophile (1).(1) https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550536590/#550605383>>584307545>I like Minthara, but here are all the reasons I dislike her.Careful. You're starting to sound like a moronic parasite that claims Minthara is the most evil companion in the game, conveniently forgetting that Astarion is much more (chaotically) evil from the get-go and later eager to damn seven thousand of his siblings.
>>584309247I never said I disliked her.I just said she was pathetic, which is true and makes her very entertaining.
I love gortash as much as the next guy but his design is so fucking goofy
when did Larian go woke? They went from having some random cow in town call you a faggot in D:OS 2 to whatever homoerotic shit this Baldie Gayte 3 is
>>584311405since divinity 1 where they let you have sex with male hookers, minsc also calls tav queer in bg3 btw larian has literally always been woke, they were pro gay marriage & pro reffugees in the 2010s, swen literally wore a stop the war in gaza pin during the game awards
>>584311585>swen literally wore a stop the war in gaza pin during the game awardsok i actually looked it up and that was baloney idk who lied to me, if anyone knows what this pin stands for let me know swen wore it during the game of the year award when bg3 won
>>584311851https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artists4Ceasefire?useskin=vector
>>584312006oh shoot they were actually right ok nevermind thank you
1 - Minsc was very incompetent and could not save Sarevok. 2 - Sarevok is a massive asshole for refuse Minsc bromance3 - Both???
The biggest problem here is the god. Why don't they go after Bhaal in person? They're just rolling a stone uphill, man...
And Jaheira is a lazy coward for accepting death. She is not freeing her kids from Bhaal.
>>584314509Agreed. And honestly, I doubt Shar will leave Selunite Shadowheart alone and in peace.
>>584231930Wat exactly is the proper way to play BG1+2 (and possibly IWD etc.) with the same character and all mods and everything in the BG2 engine?Apparently BWS isn't a thing anymore, and there's some issues with Project Infinity and I don't even know what else there is, is there no one click setup that works with all the EE games/expansions?
Why is every frontline melee companion is female, and every male companion is caster or caster-adjacent? Even Durge default is a Sorcerer
>>584311585>>584311851How is that woke when Swen had to relocate part of his team out of Russia? It's not performative woke politics if you're personally affected
>>584319010Minsc is melee
>>584319010>>584324586>Minsc is a male frontline melee companion>Jaheira is a female caster companionI feel like they might have something else in common that could explain them being the only ones who break the pattern. But I just... can't... put my finger on it.
>>584313769Am I the only one who doesn't think Sarevok is badly written in BG3? He is like Jason, he has no salvation and will always be the victim of an abusive father. He is evil and victim at the same time.
But I really can't defend what they did to Viconia...
>>584319527Shut up
>>584313769I can't hate Sarevok, man. Is there any deviation from morality in me?
>>584281798Players would view female Halsin very differently just because of the sex. Halsin's story about getting scarred by a rejected horny bear would be viewed quite differently if it was a female druid and a horny male bear even if female Halsin was still flippant about it.
thinkin bout Shadowcutie's lil bush
>>584327924To this day I still wonder why swen asked his artists to fully render his characters' genitals I still remember all these screenshots of kagha/isobel/orin's nipples clipping through their clothes during loading times, my money's on marketing but who the fuck knows at this point he might actually be the king of gooners
>>584327924In my mouth
>>584326418ok
Why did Swen blue ball us by delaying Shadowheart's sex scene to act 3 and then giving us the lamest cut to black shit?
>>584313769>>584327216Sarevok is just Astarion for men LMAO
>>584330627most of the mocap was a bitch to do because of covid they had to wrap up the main quest and the origin quests before worrying about optional romance scenes
>>584332537>Astarion is Sarevok for womenPlease more respect...
>optional romanceThe vast majority of players romanced shadowheart
>>584333869and minthara's less popular than wyll but she still has the most explicit sex scene so larian clearly doesn't think it's that important
>>584330627hers is the slow burn romance that should leave you the most emotionally invested
>>584334019>minthara's less popular than wyllThat's strictly due to the retarded/evil way you recruit her, she would have been way more popular if she was recruited in a similar way to H*lsin.
>>584334020Sure, but why not give a proper pay off at the end? Fan service is very important
I want a follow up game that lets you experience Tav and Shadowheart's relationship.Singleplayer third person rpg, with two paths based on which good Shart you romanced. Either cottagecore or traveling with her in her Selunite service.
I still think that the companion sucks donkey dick and we needed more dwarves orcs dragonborns tieflings and less druids
>dwarves>orcs>dragonbornsUltra cringe>tieflingsSure>less druidsSo true
Removing boobs from dragonborn females was the worst decision in DnD 5e.
Dragonborn females don't have boobs?
>>584337190companion line up*
>>584313769Neither are gay
What's the best looking armor set in the game?
>>584319010>rogues are caster-adjacent
>>584324586He literally has spell slots>>584347516The rogue is a homo.I stand correct.
Now that the dust has settled, what do we think the new mechanic in Divinity will be?
>>584348036Shadowheart also has spell slots, and more than Minsc
>>584348215>ShadowheartAlso a homo
>>584348543both astarion and shart are bisexual and still male and female, respectively
>>584347516to be fair astarion's starting stat spread is set up to be an arcane trickster
>>584324686jaheira's a druid/fighter multiclass. she works as a frontline fighter too
>>584348124it gotta be swimming
alright i'm finally gonna do a 4 warlock honor run with wyll as the mc. i've been putting this off forever. naturally wyll is the fiend subclass but i literally have no idea what party members fit all the others. i guess hexblade for shart? hexblade magic comes from the shadowfell but shart isn't really a melee fighter so eh. no fucking clue for the others
>>584352482>playing as wyllwhy
>>584352995he's the only one i haven't played. i still need to finish karlach's 4 barb but i got burnout on the game on that run
I infiltrated the Goblin's stronghold and saw some dude whipping himself in a corner. He offered to give me a sermon or some shit, I took his offer out of curiosity and now my companions think I'm a kinky freak. Waht do?Also, I think he gave me some sort of STD.
>>584356329do it, its funny
ok i'm surprised to say this but wyll has the best first camp night cutscene out of all the origins
>>584335946God I wish. That's the dream.
What does Mizora taste like?
>>584360287can you guys be normal?
>>584360287Salty.
>>584358093Imagine having a sexy bitch cambion wife as your patron
>>584361027cute and kissable frog!!
>>584360287Dookie bitterness, but it tastes good because she's magically fucking with you to corrupt you
bg4 would have let you customize your own patron...
>>584313769>>584327216Larian will never make me hate Sarevok, even with this incest bullshit. Nice try, Larian.
bg4 would have had a cute orc waifu and a definitive edition
>>584361472yea she is
I just want decent male companions, not female gaze/fujoshi tier male companions. Larian is good with female characters.
>>584371838You are right, straight men will never like these male companions of BG3, except Minsc.
>>584372031Straight men took the Wyllpill
by balduran's balls i will not be tricked!
>>584372530>picture of Somali migrant cultural exchange, 2026, colorized
>>584372196Wyll is the gayest motherfucker in camp
>>584287998she hungy>>584308546i save posts that made me laugh
>>584372997Straight dudes dance with the Blade
>>584371838>I just want decent male companionsthey're all in dos2 and actually feel like bros, the male companions in bg3 are all sissies aside from minsc and none of them would be fun enough to drink with at the local tavern
>>584372530>beheaded karlach no one cries about gore
>>584371838>noo larian don't appeal to women!Wyll doesn't fit into that category btw
>>584373554simplest explanation she has no fans
>>584374313Her fans aren’t the type to come here
yea like i said zero fans
>>584374313>>584374612toadcel she's more popular than your toad
i just had the most insanely unlucky encounter with the gate goblins ever. i missed nearly every attack and they got crit after crit on my whole team. one goblin got two crits in a row when he had disadvantage on laezel. let me repeat, TWO crits in a row with DISADVANTAGE. what the fuck are the odds on that? add that to the four other crtis in the battle. i only managed to survive cause i had astarion cast darkness, pop a haste potion, and book it out of theremaybe this is karma for killing karlach lmao
>>584373554Not that many people left here, as Mintharafag mentioned. Your worthless kind made sure to shit up the threads until most posters with decency had had enough and left. What good is it to complain about another shitposter intent on spamming the non-character? But yes, there is a pattern.>>584311585 >>584311851>>584348124 >>584360671Stop spamming worthless off-topic garbage, you insufferable parasite.
and yet you get called a faggot more than when you did posting dead acktherefor no ack fansits just science
>>584375082>What good is it to complain about another shitposter intent on spamming the non-character?wait i'm a shitposter just cause i decided to play wyll for once? the fuck is wrong with this general
>>584375082You posted gore before, real gore>>584375347>fuck is wrong with this generalMany things. That guy is mentally ill and hates every male character
>>584375347nobody wants to see wyll
>>584375082Stop posting, you mentally ill freak
>>584374313That's not true, I'm a fan.
>>584374856I’m fine with that. The masses are idiots.
>>584375347Yeah. The non-character has long been used as a pretext for "on-topic" shitposting by the parasite (>>583930963, >>583944637, >>583945874). You offer much of the same garbage. But I'm sure you will feign ignorance and claim the right to post your trash just as any other player. This is what your kind has to offer.
I saw art of Wyll with his ass out, you are lucky I don't want to post it
Women think straight men want orcs and angry swearing dwarves but actually straight men want Wyll.
>>584376790my posts are on topic. playing as a character you don't like is not shitposting. you're the one who's shitposting right now.
>>584377362women are the ones that want orcs actually
>>584377362We want male companions that act like real men, not male companions from soap operas and Disney fairy tales. That's all...
>>584377828you like minsc shut the fuck up
>>584377828Ketheric would be a better companion that all BG3 male companions from act 1 and act 2 lol
>>584377879minsc's more iconic than everybody in this game aside from astarion karlach & shadowheart
>>584377990Bg3fags have never played the old games AND haven't played act 3. Wrong yet again Minscfag!
true we only play turn BASED and not real time with cringe slop
is this the guy who said Dorn from EE would be more popular than Astarion kek
>>584378394i'm pretty sure that even if they did Minsc origin he would have had hard time being more popular than AstarionEE characters are not even popular enough to be memes
BG3 male companions:Casters, 12 STR, personalities varying from passive to passive-agressive, all non-toxic, and worst of all, all of them try to flirt with you just because you were nice to them.It's like they were all made for women.
>>584378831Zevlor as companion would be way better than them.
>>584379008zevlor would have been a much better paladin companion than minthara
>>584379008there's already a thiefling
>>584379062Minthara behaves more like average men than the male companions.
We needed Asmodeus and Mephistopheles tiefling companions too
>>584378831why do you keep seething about women. Astarion isn't a caster and he is rather toxic
>>584379195Astarion fandom is 99% women. It's definitely not a character that appeals to everyone.
>>584379317Why does the Astarion fandom live in your head? Kill him or kill yourself.and not trve. My male friends ended up loving him.
>>584379317Shart is the character that is closest to appealing to everyone, and based on that and the reasons behind it the ideal male companion would be Geraldus.
nooo, pookie! too many injectionswhat evil soul told you that you had wrinklesWotC keeps bullying Astarion T^T
>>584379507Gays are pseudo-women.
>>584379546>and the reasons behind it the ideal male companion would be Geraldus.many are saying this>>584379576that is NOT astarion
>>584379628That's why straight men love Wyll
>>584379695Wyll looks more like a liberal white man from New York or Canada than an average black man.
>>584379628my friends are straight, they just like his character and arc.
>>584379781As I said, straight men take the wyllpill. Them regular bucks don't play games like this.
>>584379576hopefully the other comics have better artists but its looking grim. wyll's comic will probably be made in microsoft paint
women like astarion? badI a manly man love minsc? good
>>584379997this but wyll
>>584379654scratch mod?
>>584380157yup
>>584377462>my posts are on topic.I never said otherwise. Poor reading comprehension is another common trait among your kind. Your low-quality shitposts are technically on topic, and that's the issue. Hours filled with nothing but your garbage and the Minsc faggot replying to himself while rambling about Minsc and Sarevok. Nothing deserving of a report, nothing deserving of a reply.
>>584379781As a nobleman from Baldur's Gate Wyll is as close to an upper class New England white man as it gets in Forgotten Realms. Orin and Gortash are both much closer to a black-coded background.
>>584380563i never said you did. i was simply stating that my posts are on topic and not remotely in the realm of shitposting. you're the schizo that rages about short races and dragonborn too, right? posting a tav that you're not attracted to is not shitposting and neither is posting a character you don't like. also, it's obvious that one dude is posting wyll a lot because it pisses you off. all of his posts are in reaction to your shitposting
>>584379781>Wyll looks more like a liberal white manyou do not go outside
>>584313769Bg3 sarevok is just the bhaal taint that the real sarevok was separated from the real Sarevok upon death in bg 1 and the real Sarevok still went through his redemption after being restored in bg 2. This is my headcanon and cope.
>>584381339>you're the schizo that rages about short races and dragonborn tooyes that's him. he hates wyll the most because he's racist
>>584381609Mother Superior is not Viconia, it's a random doppelganger. Real Viconia is dead.
To be fair not liking short races is a normie position.
Divnity is bussin fr fr no cap
>>584381670to be fair not liking his kind is a normie position
Is Sarevok the Vegeta of Baldur's Gate? Redditors are crying since yesterday on reddit because they "ruined" him.
>>584382215astarionsis...
>>584382147He is 13418361872 times better as character than all of these "male" companions of BG3 combined. And women are crying over Astarion book...They would hate if Astarion would be loyal to Cazador in BG4 too.
once or twice... or more than that...
>>584382379the Astarion fandom beat you so hard
Speaking of the Astarion book I saw like 6 analysis videos about how it sucks. They should have picked Laezel to botch first
>>584382874at least the book is just a prequel. the comics are a sequel and wotc is gonna piss off way way more people
Wait, are there people who really expect good things from these comics after what they did to Sarevok and Viconia? LMAO
>>584383298>are a sequel oh man we are doomed
>caring about notgameyou're just gonna make yourself mad and you'll have nobody to blame but yourself
>>584383901Even ingame they do shit things. I will never forgive what they did to Viconia.
>>584383901i know bad sequels should make me mad but instead they're a source of endless hilarity for me. as long as the dumb shit isn't carried into bg4 i don't care
>>584382874I read the book myself and I'm so morbidly curious how one could make a video over an hour long complaining about it. Not curious enough to actually watch one of those videos though. It's the most nothingburger "controversy" ever.
>>584384761what's your opinion on it
Thoughts on High Elf Wizards?
>>584384980I give it 2.5-3/5. I thought it was fine. If I had to take a wild guess what people would hate about it it's the Paladin OC (which was a fun character imo) because Astarion actually ends up kind of liking him in the end and being nice to him and they'll say that's out of character even though when you read the book you could just insert your Tav into that character and it's pretty much exactly what plays out in the game. I guess it's jealousy or something idk.
i didn't know gale will friendzone you if you're too retarded to do the magic trick lmao. i've never failed both of these piss easy rolls before
>>584371348sitting frog>>584373126yeah man songposting is fun and shit just writes itself. another cute frog for you both o7
>>584388628>gale will friendzone youoh I should try that next time so he doesn't do his gay magic trick
>>584388628gale only needs one lifelong affliction
BG3 might just be my favorite video game ever made. My final play through was 100 hours to finish. I got my golden dice.. but I did not get closure. I did not wish it to end. I completely dominated the game in my final victory. There was no challenge I faced I did not have complete control of. No cheats. No cheese. Just simple total mastery of the game world. It's over but I want more. Modding the game doesn't add the more I'm looking for. It's over..
>>584389464frogkisser is still my fav
>>584397401Record a playthrough, king.
>>584397401Congrats, it's a nice feeling.I'm in a similar boat. I beat the game several times and have pretty much memorized every item location and fight. So to mix things up and provide a challenge or at least something new, I'm using these mods and so far I am having a blast: >>584073234 >>584152647 >>584086403.
Dear Lord, when I get to HeavenPlease let me meet Shadowheart there
>>584398075lol you were the other guy? fuck yeah. that was a good time
I've never romanced Laezel or Karlach because I'm racist and feel like I need to play the same race they are.Someday I'll try playing a gith or tiefling I guess.
>>584404097alright which one's balduran again? which one has mandatory cutscenes again? which one has the worst romance in the game?Right.>>584397401play dos2 and dragon age origins, both got bg3 vibes
hmm
>>584397401Can you explain why so few merch? If it game was Japanese it would have plenty of merch
isn't it kinda nuts shart racially profiles someone 3 minutes into the game
>playing honor>zevlor dies in the siege (he jumps down)actually all the tiefling allies died.how badly bricked am i?
>>584423121Should be fine, the other ones are dead in act 2 anyway.
>>584423121there are a lot of failsafe tieflings it's really really really hard to brick bg3
>>584421336green alien isn't a race, humans and githyanki pairings cannot produce fertile young
57 days left
Is GOOlock the most fortunate type of Warlock? If you're a Fiend Warlock, your soul is doomed once you die. If your patron is an Archfey, you are guaranteed to be fucked over in one way or another, eventually. Meanwhile, GOOlock get all the powers and doesn't have to pay shit in return, your patron doesn't even care
there's a whole genre of books dedicated to why it'd be a bad idea to worship great old ones
>>584426181why do you hate minthara so much?
>>584426007there's no free lunch for locks
>>584421336flatnose
Divinity will have the biggest feature bg3 forgot to add from dos2: picking your character's theme that plays whenever you kill an enemy
The featured they forgot to add was the lone wolf mod actually
its already too easy to beat the game solo even on Honor mode they didnt need to add lone wolf
>>584435484lonewolf with your favorite romance is peak CRPG experience
>>584426007What does the Hexblade want from the Warlock?It seems like your patron is just a cool sword.
>>584426007Good/Neutral archfey patrons are by far the best, the "downside" is that they're often hot and may want to have sex with you.Pacting Queen of Air and Darkness or Prince of Frost is kind of like becoming a Shar worshipper though.
>the githyanki codex names this maneuver steel rain, we will descend upon the foe, we will overwhelm them we will leave none alive
>>584455419Faggot coded post
>>584410458Lae'zel's romance is cuter if you're not also a githyanki. The times she tells you about her culture don't have quite the same effect if you're presumably familiar with everything already. She wouldn't need to translate githyanki expressions if you spoke the same language in the first place.
>>584455419Durge and Gortash sitting in a tree
>>584456312having sex with women is gay
>>584456312gortash is a fag
>>584421336the only good decision she makes in the entire game. however, this frog rose above them all
hot take: the party limit should be 5
>>5844636676
>>584463667I prefer Owlcat's party of 6 over Larian's 4 to be h w u
>>584463667who's on your party then
>>584469231karlachjaheiraminscwyll
>>584469663awful team
>>584470009I like it
>>584327924Halsin...
>>584469663you could just go karlach, jaheira, and minsc and it's basically the same
>>584473226wyll's amazing eldritch blast never gets old and I love upcasting armor of agathys
>>584281798Female Wyll is so based. Imagine wanting to marry used goods
this general really has a problem with women oh my days
>>584475403This general has a problem with everything.
or just a strawman you've created yourself and now you're getting mad about
>>584479078I hate how broad the artist made her shoulders
>>584472682Halsins bush in your mouth?
>>584477901I have a problem with a subhuman parasite that casually jokes about sexual abuse and Mystra being a pedophile (1), but maybe that's just me. I have a problem with a hypocritical parasite that called Shadowheart a whore (2) before criticizing the namefag for stating that the female romances are obviously not virginal, but maybe that's just me. I have a problem with a spamming parasite that has made it its daily mission (>>584232051, >>584299948, >>584424617) to shit up the thread, but maybe that's just me. I have a problem with those that continue to enable that parasite despite being aware of its nature and recognizable shitposting, but maybe that's just me. What do you think, anon? Should we simply stop having a problem with anything and everything? Maybe even allow ourselves to converse with a subhuman that hates this game and its characters.(1) https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550536590/#550605383(2) https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/575732037/#575735976
>>584487521where's that webm you posted of burning pigs in a pit
>>584487521your boyfriend call all the women whores by theee way
double replying now are we
>>584487521What's the solution?
>>584487768he did that shit on god
>>584486719It looks good although not gith since they have hungry skeleton physiques.
>>584487521I think you should stop shitting up these threads with your psychotic ranting.
sorry lae'zel but as my goo warlock you must eat gummies to force crits
>>584492930wyll my babyboy bg3 did not deserve you
oh god not this again
nobody sane uses the word ''virginal''
Take the Wyllpill
>>584494787I already am IRL, so no
>>584494787
I think I’d prefer Halsin cuckposting over this.
shut the fuck up
>>584486719go find the artist and bitch then, retard I dont care
top 10 wyll facts
>>584497013Ok
>>584497372he lives in the gay part of town
>>584497372He’s a ni-
>>584497372he got fucked over by larian and astarion has 40% more dialogue lines than him
>crpg>the freedom to play according to your own morals and preferences>still people look up guides and play the most OP/broken builds possibleIt would be hypocritical of me to judge the manner in which someone plays, so I won't cast judgment. But if I heard someone being called a fag-pussy because they loaded their party up with broken S+ tier builds that they found online, I would not speak out in their defense. Especially on a first playthrough
>>584498494
>>584499273you have an asston more customization and build options in wizardry 8, but people still play shit like "five melee guys and a priest." I haven't seen any melties on certain builds, however
IGNIS
>>584499273that's the side effect of information being so freely available literacy is a curse
>>584499273if its their first honor mode playthough i understand. no one wants to wipe 40 hours in
>>584500320Gale's voice
>>584499726
Jesus fuck, never tried druid before but it is insane how stacked this class is. Full caster progression with an absolutely loaded spell list and wild shapes for full martial capability, too? And it doesn't even care about gear. What the fuck is the point of any other class compared to this?
>>584494989eww actual fag itt
>>584502124druids are versatile but a lot of other classes do way more damage. fighter, bladesinger, sorcerers, paladins, sword bards, warlocks, monks and some multi classes like ranger/assassins just do so much damage i don't think a druid can keep up. a druid might actually be one of the lowest damage potential classes in the game
>>584504110Druids do more than enough damage between their spell list and tavern brawler working with wild shape forms. GWM and bhaalist aura can work for some of the forms, too.
>>584500320I heard Shadowheart
>>584502124Play on honor mode then talk
>>584507164Already am.
>>584489476Step one is to acquire basic pattern recognition. This one shouldn't be too difficult, since there are only around five posters left. Step two is to stop replying to the parasite, stop reacting to insipid tweets, stop normalizing the degradation of language and thought, "on god," "deadass." That one might be more difficult, if not outright impossible, for some of you. This general has a problem with everything - except when it's time to have a problem with shitposting or non-character spam. A peculiar inconsistency.>>584492516You forgot to call the namefag a swine and Minthara a non-character. >>584502124>And it doesn't even care about gear.This is a pretty major downside in a game where gear enables interesting or effective builds. Sure, you can grab Tavern Brawler and start mauling enemies as an owlbear and that can be good enough, but you're not beating the optimized martials in DPR. There's also something to be said about Druid being one of the worst classes for everything social. Not only do you have to expend a Wild Shape charge every time you want to talk to an NPC, but you have no relevant skills for dialogue checks. Monk can at least multiclass into Rogue.
>>584511098You’re such a pretentious cunt.
>>584511098
Shadowheart is just Viconia 2.0
>>584511098you sure do love ugly women
Shadowheart looks DAMN good 40!
>>584513524So we can oficially blame Sarevok and Minsc for Viconia downfall?
>>584515641I blame Drizzt. He could helped her to leave Shar.
>>584511098keep up the fight, legend
>>584501821
>>584511098eat shit, schizo faggot lol
>>584513524>short men are subhuman to StaciesAccurate.
a beautiful night
>>584515641Yes.
For divinity to reach bg3's heights it needs to emulate the feelings of wonder people felt when they first discovered the underdark
>>584525959cute princess
>>584535664I wonder if divinity will have as many races as bg3, bg3 has an overwhelming amount of races considering the hundreds of unique lines some of them get, I wouldn't mind them reduce the amount of races if they all feel as unique as the tieflings the drows or the giths, these are definitely the most unique bg3 races imo dragonborns and orcs are among my favorite dnd races but they don't get that many unique lines and it really felt like shit especially after playing a tiefling tav
>>584513524Holy shit, the writting of pre-woke era is so superior, man... I wish I could see Minthara saying lot of racist bullshit.
>>584536758Impossible, they removed the Gur from Astarion's book because they were afraid the Gur would be associated with gypsies.
>>584536886Notice that Minsc is racist, Sarevok is racist, Korgan is racist... Lae'zel would be racist and asshole all the time if BG3 had been made in the 2000s
>>584536758I don't remember this kind of writing from NWN.
>>584515641Based baldies. When you see a drow, you kill it.
>>584537264Lae'zel being sweet in Act 3 always piss me off. She comes from a super organized and disciplined chreche, finds a totally chaotic city and does not keep saying anything racist? Please.
>>584537264Lae'zel is a racist in the old-fashioned way like a japanese imperialist from the 30's, all non-gith are weak and undisciplined, individuals may prove otherwise but their people on the whole will still be unworthy. Astarion is a racist in the normie way, and just doesn't trust them new gurs over there.
drows should have gotten these kind of lines
>>584540473Lolth-sworn drow and clerics of Lolth have lines like that but no one plays them.
>>584487521>>584511098Usedgoodsbros... is this the best we have to offer?
>>584541881quit being weird
>>584541954Quit getting butthurt at a little ribbing and disgust towards whores
>>584515641Yes. For not putting a half-human baby in her
>>584542668You're a whore
56 days left before the game awards they will surely reveal the bg3 show, the plot is obviously gonna be dogwater but I can see them pulling off a decent looking live action baldur's gate(city)
Instead of a bg3 show, they should just roll out a sequel to Honor Among Thieves taking place in Baldur's Gate
>>584552118that'd be so fucking cool
>>584553650Shame that movie bombed, I thought it was good. Had it released around BG3's released, it would've done alright.
Minthara is appealing but Lae'zel telling me she'll find me some goblins to carve up is doing things to me.
get rid of minthara and give me zrellget rid of halsin and give me kaghaget rid of jaheira(turned into a camp follower) and give me zevlorget rid of minsc(turned into an ally during the final fight) and give me hope
>>584548481this nigga knows
>>584511420But am I wrong? Do you condone the worthless off-topic garbage (>>584535664, >>584536365, >>584540473, >>584549659) that the parasite spams every single day? I point to a very real issue that affects everyone who still bothers to check this general, and your response is to call me a schizo, a shitposter, a pretentious cunt. In my pretentious cuntishness, I'd like to think this is about me, but it really isn't. I'm just one poster.
>>584563274mildy concerned frog
Minthara ravengard
crashing out if no Divinity news deadass nawmean
>>584563274You spam worthless off topic garbage rants everyday
>>584566959on god(bhaal)
>>584566959see>>584567886
ON GOD DIVINITY OH LAWD
>>584568042see >>584567886
idea:wyll but with 4 hornsthink about it
4 warlock is pretty fun. running fiend wyll, goo lae'zel, hexblade shart, and archfey astarion. it does seem like hexblade is better than every other subclass, although goo has some good abilities and fiend has a good spell list. archfey has been the most underwhelming by far
>you are THIS ghaik
>gortashugly>durgetashpeakever noticed how none of the popular bg3 ships are straight? nobody gives a shit about karlach/wyll or halsin/shadowheart this says a lot about our society
>>584578219>nobody gives a shit about halsin/shadowheartanon did you forget the really shart mod
>>584578321I mean wouldn't that prove that I'm right? people dislike that pairing so much they got rid of all the lines confirming these characters flirt with each other
Minthara Dekarios
>>584578550somebody gave enough of a shit to make a whole ass mod out of it so that the don't get cucked
>>584578219wyll/karlach has quite a few supporters. halsin is supposed to be a free sex hippy that doesn't have real longterm relationships. no one is meant to stay with him>>584578552this one is popular too
>>584578679ok
>>584578550he's being obtuse on purpose to bait you
>nobody gave a shit>well here's someone who gave a shit, he made a whole ass mod to prevent himself from being cucked>retard: he's being obtuse
>>584579589you know what he meant and you're still trying to bait
>>584579589bro get help
if he really didn't give a fuck about halshart then he would have just shrugged and walked away, apathy is required for not giving a shitinstead he took his anger and manifested it into a real life thing via the mod which is decidedly not apathetic
>>584580019yeah its clear you meant durgetash and other gay couples like shadowzel have fanbases. he just desperately wants to manipulate and argue
it'd be different if he said everyone hates shartsinbut he said nobody gives a fuck about halhearttruth matters
man some random dude removed the drow twins interaction with shart? must mean shartxtwins is a ship people care about
its obvious halheart triggered you so hard you had to call the interaction drow twins lul
>>584583079to my knowledge a nazi modder removed mizora, twins, and halsin. you're obsessed with that modder for some reason. none of those are legit ships in the game by themselves. the guy just removed polyamory wholesale.
>>584584989sloppers gonna slop> you're obsessed with that modder for some reasonnot at all its just funny to laugh at the cognitive dissonance of sharters ITT when the mod droppedlike>IT DIDN'T HAPPEN>but install this mod so that it doesn't happenis so fucking funny
nobody fucking cares
>>584571183glamorous frog
>>584578219Top 10 BG3 A03 Origin ships>Astarion/Gale (4339)>Astarion/Dark Urge (3251)>Dark Urge/Gortash (2644)>Shadowheart/Lae'zel (1188)>Astarion/Halsin (1159)>Astarion/Wyll (1080)>Astarion/Cazador (796)>Gale/Dark Urge (784)>Karlach/Wyll (594)>Shadowheart/Karlach (453)
>>584585846dat dragon ass
>>584578219Astarion can canonically fuck Lae'zel but Ast'zel has no fans
>anon makes a post about popular bg3 ships>toadcel derails all discussion for his weekly halsin masturbation session
pointing out errors in your premise isn't derailing
>>584588410He has plenty of webms and photos saved of him. He talks about him more than Lae'zel. He sits around and thinks of ways to bring him into the conversation. It's quite bizarre, but it's something him and Mintharafag have in common. Pigschizo has his own flavor of mental illness, but at least he isn't obsessed with some other man's dick.
the divtard admitted to having a cuckspam folder FYI
>>584589612Then he's another weirdo along with you
>>584587937>Astarion/Gale (4339)>Shadowheart/Lae'zel (1188)>Astarion/Halsin (1159)>Astarion/Cazador (796)
>>584587937Chat is this real?
>>584590203astarion/cazador is a straight up crackship. what the fuck are those femcels smoking over there
trvke: astarion & gale got negative chemistry
>>584587937so if you remove durge and nonorigins its bloodweave > shadowzel > halstarion > wyllstarion > wyllach >shadowlachi honestly expected shadowlach to be more popular
patch 9 will make the companions hang out with each other trust the plan
>>584587937>no boney with GodeyEh?
>>584587937>>584590685...why is halstarion so high up there
>>584578219they do but only for tav
>>584592975women find it hot
>>584592975because astarion ships take up like half the list
Shadowheart/Lae’zel and Gale/Minthara are the best ships.
>>584587937>Astarion/Gale>top spotRetarded fujos. Those two have zero chemistry.
shadowzel is weird because it had all the ingredients to be yurigem but it ended up yurislop instead because their stories stopped being tied to each other after act 1
>>584598079at least they like each other by the end. lae'zel is extremely upset if you betray shart in act 3. the circus scene says lae'zel messes with shart at camp for the lols even if we don't see it. gale and astarion never give a shit about each other
>>584598079lae'zel doesn't have much to do in act 2/The Shadowheart Act which could have easily been a place to fit more interaction between them, especially after the creche/their rivalryact 3 has to account for the fact that she's top on orin's kidnapping priority list for whatever reason and she just doesn't have much to do there at all
>>584592624why doesn't Laezel cover her toes
>>584587937>Karlach and Wyll, the one that can actually happen in game, is second to last>Astarion and Gale, who have nothing between them and don't particularly even get along, is most popular with over four thousand entriesbruh>Astarion and Cazador has several hundredbruh>I like Astarion so much that I'm going to write stories about him and his abuserbruh
>>584599367for someone obsessed with women you got no idea what they're actually into
>>584599367ya the cazador one is crazy. i figured karlach with astarion would at least be more popular than that holy shit
>>584590685Shadow’zel seems to be the one the actual lesbos like. Shadowlach is either a very vocal minority or is being artificially pushed by someone.
>>584599367>Astarion and CazadorThis one is deranged.
>>584601052>is being artificially pushed by someonelarian and wotc
>/bgg/ just realized that women love seeing a dom guy getting dommed by an even bigger dom
She wants to show everyone how ugly they are
>>584601498meant for>>584599179
>>584599179she's like a roman soldier
>>584499129brave AND powerfull
>>584601752It's Thursday
>>584601964you're thursday
Least popular A03 companion ships:>Minthara/Astarion (13)>Halsin/Lae'zel & Halsin/Minthara (15)>Minthara/Wyll (16)>Halsin/Karlach (26)>Astarion/Lae'zel (39)>Minthara/Lae'zel (40)>Halsin/Wyll (43)>Wyll/Shadowheart (48)>Minthara/Karlach (89)>Halsin/Shadowheart (90)
>>584602973>Halsin/Wyll (43) who the fuck would write that jesus
>>584602973>Wyll/Shadowheart
Romance rankings by companion:>AstarionGale (4339) > Halsin (1159) > Wyll (1080) > Karlach (280) > Shadowheart (117) > Lae'zel (39) > Minthara (13)>GaleAstarion (4339) > Halsin (201) > Shadowheart (191) > Wyll (130) > Minthara (106) > Karlach (70) > Lae'zel (58)>ShadowheartLae'zel (1188) > Karlach (453) > Gale (191) > Astarion (117) > Minthara (108) > Halsin (90) > Wyll (48)>Lae'zelShadowheart (1188) > Karlach (114) > Wyll (66) > Gale (58) > Minthara (40) > Astarion (39) > Halsin (15)>KarlachWyll (594) > Shadowheart (453) > Astarion (280) > Lae'zel (114) > Minthara (89) > Gale (70) > Halsin (26)>WyllAstarion (1080) > Karlach (594) > Gale (191) > Lae'zel (66) > Shadowheart (48) > Halsin (43) > Minthara (16)Alright, I'm done data posting now. I made several fuck ups on the least popular list. Whoopsie.
