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dont be a 'dite edition

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>Previous Thread
>>584174272
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why isnt bevy better?
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progress anchor
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>>584273042
It's because LLM prompts converge to the mean, if you tell them "make UI", they will make whatever they think the *average* UI looks like. If you want something that actually doesn't look like every other vibecoded app you need to give it more hints with regards to colors, contrast, spacing, font choice, gradients and so on.

>>584274420
Bevy is a meme because it's mostly a tech demo rather than a flexible engine.
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>>584274436
slaughter pdfs with zero remorse or shame
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I'm writing my own 2.5D game engine that can do jrpg, platformers, shmups and 2D fighters and roguelites.

It's basically heavily inspired by 2D fighter maker and rpg maker.

I do feel like what's the point, why not use godot.

But at the same time, I do feel making my own engine would make me 100% more productive than using godot or other engines.
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>>584274685
nigga has been saying this for years with no results whatsoever kekyyy
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>>584274767
*nods wisely*
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>>584274006
I just finished up digging through some of the new engine stuff.

Waylith is a wrapper for Ahwoo's BRUTAL libraries with a custom Unity-Shim.

The application is GLFW + Vulkan + Miniaudio under the hood with a new profiler.

They're wrapping some Unity code code that I assume they reverse engineered like UnityCollections/Jobs/Burst, etc. rest are stubbed (a lot of the shim is just stubs to catch and not run unity code )
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>>584274840
proof?
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increased supply + same demand = lower value
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>>584274840
>I just finished up digging through some of the new engine stuff.
nigga really has been wasting time on stupid shit like this
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>>584274754
Why not just make what you need for each genre, generic engines are a mistake even with AI cris.
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>>584274754
You're just avoiding the hard work designing a game really. making engines is productive procrastination. the archons want you to stay engine deving so you never learn the passwords
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>>584274906
>same demand
Only because the fat fuck artificially limits the number of games that can reach the front page to 400 though
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>>584274906
retard
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>>584275057
im pretty sure your low effort slop isnt going to sell either way
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>>584275004
all engines suck.

I just want to mix the things I enjoy from figther maker, add some things from other engines, a bit of rpg maker and I'll be happier.
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Once again I will have to cancel both my next fest submissions because the demo for this game, and Warp Bound, aren't ready. Feel stupid for taking on another project especially now since AI is going to be absolutely flooding steam with games soon.
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>>584274906
steam gains 2million users per month and if you post this one more time I will call the authorities.
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the nerdiest guy I know at works still thinks AI coding is what you get if you ask a oneshot in chatgpt and copy the code
I think there's a genuine chance to make money with this before everyone realizes what's going on
Anti AI propaganda is just buying you more time to catch up lmao. in 3 years it will be laughable to think there is still a future for standard coding
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>>584275004
very boomer take
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>>584275172
That looks really good anon
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>>584275172
its ludover
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>>584275152
non-sequitur
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>anons who had to wait for AI to make a game for them think they'll be able to compete with AI-assisted devs who could make games without AI
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>>584275193
this is the 50th time you admit that you're into game dev just for the money lol
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>>584274906
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>>584275193
yep its jarring how long its taking for cattle to catch on
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>>584275193
In three years a new administration is going to be in that won't shield AI companies from copyright lawsuits.
Foolish to think they will get away with violating every IP law in existence forever.
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Cris, the archons want to keep you safely inside the gnostic matrix of perfection. they are preventing you from bringing something new into reality. you are close to understanding this, closer than most, yet still keep falling away. come on cris! break out! wake up!
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>>584275183
Steam's revenue is increasing 15% YoY. The number of games is increasing 40% YoY. So the correct version would read
>40% increase in supply + 15% increase demand = lower value
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>>584275172
I have warp bound on my wishlist. what motivated you to start another game?
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>>584275183
Steam is like 50% bots nigga.
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>>584275618
I yield
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>>584274309
Ai niggas done lost they mind
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>>584275893
>AI assisted
This is such cope lol. Just admit the AI made it. The AI is making my game. I'm sitting here jerking off while it makes my game. How is it assisting me?
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steam needs a tiktok doom scroll feed of games.
GABE HEAR THIS
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>>584276015
>not using an ai powered masturbator
barely above a luddite
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Shigeru Miyamoto is going solo (and claude).
it's nintendover.
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>>584276019
Best I can do is a static front page that shows 400 games a year 10% of which are porn
Okay okay also we'll add a calendar that shows everyone the same 10 games, deal?
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>>584275893
Why is AI making people lose their minds?
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>>584276290
did you use ai?
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>>584276015
>This is such cope lol
is it? I use AI, it's more work than when I didn't use AI but 10x the results.
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>AI is evil and ba-ACK
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>>584276331
ya
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>>584276359
>
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>>584276206
NO DEAL PLEASE GABE! let me dance for my game on steam. I am so good at dancing.
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Signal Protocol is a game about Names!
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>>584276564
where goon?
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>>584276490
there's more to do. I'm considering hiring prompters to review all the agents work.
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>>584276418
Lame
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>>584276564
plebit AI mascot lmao
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Jonny Blowie? What's your excuse?
https://x.com/thinkingshivers/status/2109509669865800076
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>>584276719
I'd rather have something than nothing
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Everyone is saying AI can do this and AI can do that but are things AI cannot do yet?
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>>584276415
ludditebros sodokuing left and right KEEKEK
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>>584276829
Not really. People will cope and say
>AI can't do [thing I happen to be good at] but that's just cope.
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“Each element of these games is actually pretty amateur. It's really just a matter of having the willpower to stick with them long enough. I guess that was my main talent.”

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/a-decade-after-stardew-valley-eric-barone-is-still-going-it-alone
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>>584275661
Thanks for wishlisting anon. To answer your question, ADHD.
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And a blast was had by all
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>>584276803
Its not perfect but a make it all by myself
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>>584277067
your product looks better than mine.
i admire your skills
but i will continue to use AI in development
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>>584277067
bro... it looks ai genned
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>>584277056
relatable.
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>>584277067
how do you feel about timmy AI-raping unreal?(this is unreal right?)
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>>584277209
Elaborate, I didnt spend the last year staying up till 4 am and going to work at 8 so niggas could tell me the robot did it
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>>584276829
can't kill itself.
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>>584277336
Extremely upset but im still using 5.2 anyway, I figure I can get away with it until the windows sdk is outdated, after that I reqlly dont know, this project is 100% blueprint because im dyslexic
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what if I ask AI to write a basic raylib viewer of an html and CSS website, but as a packed .zip that reads like a basic window app VN with music, but feels like a flipbook PDF?
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>>584276787
what's the /agdg/ consensus on the sinking shart? has anyone even played it?
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why is kannadev allowed to use ai with no issues but not me?
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>>584277205
You're welcome to friend, Im just too autistic to let the ai touch it, I do be asking chatgpt and gemini about stuff I cant figure out through YouTube and forums but I like being wrist deep in the assets and the blueprints. I dont think theres a moral issue with using ai or something, its just alot more boring to discuss
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>>584277058
I kneel to the cat god...
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>>584277538
respect. I am also dyslexic and have dyscalculia(had to google spelling). I use my mic to tell claude how to build my game. but make all my art in blender myself.
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>>584277940
Lolidevs are the only ones worthy enough to wield to power of AI.
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>>584277584
instead of making raylib read HTML, you can package your HTML, CSS, and audio files into a lightweight, portable desktop application using Electron or Tauri.
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>>584277776
Yes, I am not fully done yet but I loved the demo and I love the full game even more. The best Sokoban game we have ever had and probably the best we'll have in a long while.
The narration/ story is cringe, that's my only gripe.
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anyone else here insanely jealous at tynan's talent and success? i cant even vibecode a better rw clone because they're all vibecoding too
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>>584278045
I had a stroke reading this but I agree. I think.
the better the work, the more likely the >prompt?
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>>584274906
>hmm, I wonder why this statement is making people mad
>*checks certain games again*
>oh!
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>>584278190
>lightweight
>electron
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>>584277058
I kneel. Based be the Nekotiti
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>>584278716
You caught me there. Electron is definitely not lightweight—it's notorious for eating up hundreds of megabytes of RAM just to open a blank window because it bundles a full copy of Chromium.
If you want a true lightweight solution that preserves your HTML/CSS layout, stays under 10–20MB, uses almost no RAM, and handles music, Tauri is exactly what you need.
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>>584276787
I will license sokoblow and bokube and merge them
bokublow
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>>584279186
I want a flipbook with music.
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>>584279757
Blowkube was right there.
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>>584274436
added a photo mode camera for debugging and captures.
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>>584279757
>bokublow
>>584280218
>Blowkube
by reading those names now I'm feeling funny
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>>584277584
yep, this time this will surely work
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>>584280374
you didnt do that
AI did
give credit to AI, im an AI rights activist
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give gamers what thewy want
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how can i make him less generic but still visibly street punk?
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2D is dead thanks to AI. If your game looks low production value it will just go straight on my ignore list.
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>>584276653
nekotit used ai tho
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>>584281003
*nods wisely*
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>>584276415
The pedites won't like this one, rimworld is now AI chad territory.
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>>584281670
what the hell is a pedite?
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>>584274436
I am so proud of my minimal AI retard. Can't clear a corner to save his life.
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>>584282092
an imaginary enemy living rent free in a neverdev's mind
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>>584282092
pedophile luddite, like the mexican nodev who makes the /bant/ thread
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>>584282571
but all of the pedos here use AI?
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>>584282609
ssshhh don't tell him...
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>anime posters wake up
>thread quality rises 3000%
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>>584281032
idk
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>>584281230
3d is dead thanks to AI. if your game looks Asset or AI modelled, it will just go straight to my ignore list
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>>584282609
they also breathe air (sadly), literally everyone is using AI, AI won and they lost
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>>584283276
take 2
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>>584283956
y'know i was thinking about just making it look like he escaped prison but i like this second design. can i use it?
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>>584283909
>AI won and they lost
nobody lost because pedos were using AI since day one
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>>584284114
yeah
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>>584284297
*kisses you*
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>>584284261
no pedo artists are the biggest luddite seether with lgbtqia artists, they all moved to misskey mastodon and other pedo dens because of AI "reusing" their crap meanwhile hagCHADS are still posting on xitter the everything app
dont even get me started about the seethe regarding frontier models censoring them, i can literally make a hag porn game with claude
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>>584284349
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>>584284513
'dites wont like this one
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>>584281032
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>>584284513
Loli artists moved because xwitter was shadowbanning us
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its lud'over
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>>584284513
you know nothing about loli artists keeek
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>>584284645
the exodus was before the porn shadowban era, it was when x announced that any pic posted will be reused to train AI
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>>584284702
Using AI for art isn't cool, okay? You're only allowed to use it for everything else.
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No no no no, not like this *ludies*
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>>584281326
Source?
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>>584285478
pedites wont like this one
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>>584284513
My Twitter feed is filled with loli art, some of it is even AI. What the hell are you talking about?
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>>584285478
>Izzat Games
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>My Twitter feed is filled with loli art
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>>584274754
bro just make a game. nobody needs your game engine i'm really sorry to say./
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>>584285667
jeets can't afford ai pedite shitter
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>>584275172
love the look of this. just keep your head down and keep working anon.
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>>584285725
>OpenAI offers an entry-level budget subscription called ChatGPT Go in India for 399 rupees (~$4.57) per month, which is much cheaper than standard global plans.
Jeets have always gotten massively subsidized AI because western software companies are all run by jeets who want to extract western resources and give them to india.
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>>584285994
>Americans get higher power bills because of AI but India is the country that gets cheaper plans
WTF? Dude that's actual bullshit lol
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is this 3d model too fucked up to use?
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found this slop i made few months ago, holy shit there's so much shit going on. looks good though
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How viable is Godot for making 3D games? I was already in the beginnings of learning Blueprints and eventually UE's version of C++ but between UE6 moving away from blueprints and Timmy fully going on the ai hype train I'm not certain about Unreal's future. UE isn't going away but with Fortnite not being the cash cow it once was and ai I wouldn't be surprised if Tim pulls a Unity somewhere down the future as a way to recoup costs and uses UE's monopoly in the AAA space as leverage.

Apparently part of the reason why Epic Tim is saying all this stuff is because his new Disney extraction shooter is behind schedule and it's now fully using ai for both code and art.

Do people use C# or GDscript for the majority of their code? Any good resources?
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>>584286239
first time noooticing?
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>>584285478
>Epic Games demands slopdev
how could they!?!
>for marvel & star wars
i understand now and that is fair enough.
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Signal Proggy :

Developing a workflow for resolving "Context" such as filenames, memetic hashes, and... Song titles. (Thanks for that, Matt. Somehow it slipped my mind.)

This could be used for extremely difficult puzzles or easter eggs.
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>>584285674
look at this
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>>584285478
No more hand-dragged blueprints when?
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>>584286350
>uses UE's monopoly in the AAA space as leverage.
yeah and why should that stop you?
Timmy already sets his engine and store percentages to charge AAA and not indies. There's nothing for you to worry about, Timmy doesn't exploit the weak like Gabby does.
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I can't make a fucking decent 3d model
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>>584285994
>calling gpt go AI
you probably call vomit a meal as well
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amazing i come back 2 years later and its still the same arguments kek, same cycle, nothing has changed kek, absolutely nothing haha.

you guys are real losers aren't you? I mean this is it right here, the bottom of the barrel hahaha

I guess, I'll leave talking about jeets for the next couple years non stop 24/7.
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>>584286995
trip3d
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>>584287040
Everything newer than GPT2 is legally classified as super intelligence.
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>>584287101
reminder for 2028 agdg!
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>>584287101
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>>584286870
yeah that is not normal my guy
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>>584286870
I love how lolikeks and furries are disliked everywhere they go due to constantly spamming their garbage fetish and at no point it makes you think of changing your behavior. I wish a bad ending on you.
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>>584286995
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>>584287101
found the gpt go subscriber
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>>584285994
>>584286239
Regional pricing, get gabened ameristeamies!
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https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2109812216212099456

this might make pedites seethe for a bit but there will be another reset today so use your weekly limits
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>>584287296
...
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>>584287785
I can't hit my limits anymore. I might drop down a tier. Maybe I should hire a prompter to prompt while I make art.
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>>584287907
'risu...
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>>584275319
I’m a NEET with no monies and soon homeless what’s wrong with caring about money? Not everyone is a grotesque troon living with xher parents.
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>>584286870
Based.
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>>584274436
Debugging day stupid bats were no clipping
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>Using AI to modify store assets to match my style
Does this count as AI art yes or no?
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>>584275172
>taking on another project
So this is the power on Non-Ai chads
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If you aren't using AI to make money right now you're an idiot.
If you aren't against AI because it will prevent you from making money in the future you are an idiot.
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>>584288679
My life doesn't revolve around money.
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Should I learn Godot if all I want is a simple 2D turn based roguelikeslop or should I cook up my own engine with SDL?
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comfy 4X game I'm vibecoding for my own enjoyment life like this surely is good
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>>584289012
You should focus on doing everything instead of just making a game. By the time you actually start your game, you will have a framework made by an amateur and zero experience in making a game.
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>>584288927
>>584289090
mogged
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>>584289205
can't be worse than RimWorld
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Whats the most brainlet game dev tool?
I've seen things like bitsy and pulp and a bunch of other like little itty bitty game makers but I wanted /agdg/'s opinion. It doesn't have to be fancy, I just wanted to fiddle with things in my free time.
No, AI doesn't really fit what I need. I need a hobby, not a "haha its done by the machine in 30 minutes, now you're back to having nothing to do". I've already tried "creating" things with AI and I find it dreadfully unfulfilling.
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>>584288927
Yeah yeah. Money isn't everything unless you don't have it.
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>>584289506
Honestly if you think that's what current AI is you have outdated info, but other than that I can recommend GB studio, it was my go to for a long time, keeps the scope realistic and makes you think hard to solve simple problems which would be trivial in other engines/languages. it's like caveman programming but simplified, really fascinating
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>>584286925
>Timmy already sets his engine and store percentages to charge AAA and not indies.
This only works as long as Tim feels generous until one day he doesn't. With recent UE layoffs and Epic's main cashcow Fortnite being on the downswing and his 2 game Disney deal already being off to a rocky start it's looking a bit dicey. The AAA space is also facing it's own problems with any big budget game that isn't a forever online game basically being regulated to vanity projects where even a financially successful single player AAA game gets hit with layoffs on launch day (unless the dev team all live in eastern europe)

To me it just looks like Tim's betting on the wrong horse going all in on ai with UE6 that even some of his own dev team question him on. And he doesn't have to live with the consequences. Tencent already owns a huge stake in Epic now along with Disney and if things go sideways he can always walk away with a golden parachute. When people ask him if he would ever take Epic public with IPO he never outright says no.
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>>584287101
b...but they keep telling me that this thread used to be better
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>>584289730
>Honestly if you think that's what current AI is you have outdated info
He's probably talking about the dragon quest guy who made a "game" in 30 minutes today.
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okay, what if I use html, CSS and json to define my game data, and then create a runtime to generate the game from that?
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>>584290029
Add a 5th person who holds up a bad hacker character
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I already know agdg hates syntyslop but do you also hate aislop?
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>>584290029
the fygoon era is the last golden age /agdg/ will get
at some point llms will be so cheap that running a few llms with residential proxies will cost nothing which means that the entire thread will be agents replying to other agents
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>>584290416
Rent free?
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>>584291074
Why would llms be cheaper? If anything they should cost as much as modern fast food.
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>>584290443
Slop or not, MMO debug circles being a standard feature is cancer
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>>584291279
shit like jev, i can see making a post on 4chan costing less than 5 cents
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>>584291074
>the entire thread will be agents replying to other agents
nobody is petty enough to do that
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made the first step of my custom game engine.

An app that reads html and css and output a flipbook.
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>>584291281
it's a design concession due to animation limitations. Normal attacks don't have them. I could remove them but then it might feel like bullshit when an enemy suddenly blasts you with an area attack instead of a melee one you were expecting
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>>584291382
Remember when hamburgers with 15 cents? Good times.
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>>584291708
you mean hotdogs
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I see a lot of custom engine stuff in /agdg/ nowadays. I remember back when you used to get shunned for this kind of thing. At least /agdg/ has improved in at least one way.
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>>584291454
>nobody is petty enough to do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amZgqQITScY
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>>584290184
this will magically turn pong into a game that people care about for sure!
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>>584291074
don't worry our overlords will make sure ID verification is coming to 4chan
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>>584292018
They're all lazy bums that didn't want to do work back then and still don't today.
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>>584292884
if that's what it takes to get rid of pdfs I'm down
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>>584293162
Why not just go to chadzone
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I want to use AI but every time I think about creating a real game with it I just feel dread. I feel as if I was a retard falling for a "CREATE AND SHIP A FULL GAME IN 30 MINUTES USING UNITY WOWZERS " youtube video.

I think I need validation from someone that created a game using AI to feel like I'm using just a normal tool.
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>>584293392
Its not just a normal tool. You're essentially outsourcing. Anyone that says its a tool is coping.
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>>584289090
That's awesome
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>>584293392
MVP for Signal Proggy should be up in TWO MORE WEEKS.
One huge problem with AI game dev is there's always one more slot pull you can make, one more workflow to try, so nobody ever ships.

Also, just go play CloverKart or Fantasy Garden.
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I'm tired of vibe coding prototypes that look and play like crap
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>>584293392
>I think I need validation from someone that created a game using AI
Everyone is using AI and if you're not, you're just wasting time. You can't create and ship a full game in 30 minutes. Those videos just create buggy unplayable ugly messes and noone is playing those games.
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>>584294652
then stop being lazy and learn actual skills so you aren't dependent on a compression algorithm from the 90s generating incoherent slop for you
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>>584294950
using ai is a skill
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>>584294992
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>>584294992
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>>584294652
I wasted 6 years raw coding prototypes that look and play like crap
Cris? 15+ years
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>>584294637
>Misspelling the name of your alleged friend's game
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>>584276019
>>584276206
seeing hyper-edited 15 second clips of video games doesn't translate well to actually enjoying sitting down and playing it for 5-40 hours. there was a similar idea floated some time ago but none of the beards liked it.
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>>584293392
Indie games live in the gutter. No one respects the smaller devs, everyone thinks they're not worth playing, and using AI will only validate their beliefs.
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>>584277538
>this project is 100% blueprint
average 'dite is puzzling existing pieces together while clowning on ai
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>>584294992
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>>584295262
Okay, Matt.
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>>584288397
Not bad. Gotta allow the bats to fly under under objects
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>>584294992
>why yes I'm here for the job, i'm the Prompt Engineer!
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>>584288502
Answer me you bloody bitches
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AI wonned bigly btw
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>>584296014
Based, fuck 'artists' and fuck 'programmers'
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>>584295809
Sadly as stupid as it sounds, normies are gonna make that a sought after job.
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>>584296060
now what in the hell de we need them there programophones fer anywho?
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>>584284702
Damn, how did AI draw that in Godot?
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>>584296398
bro you literally just tell the ai to make it fuck kknows how it happens
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>>584296060
New Meta : Hire a bunch of artists and programmers to make your AI slop and hide behind them when somebody sniffs it
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>>584284702
that looks looks like shit thoughbeit
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>>584296482
Please don't use AI to make art. Like code is okay or even writing but when it makes art you're stealing from artists. Its just gross.
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Why don't you just promote Clover Kart to Sharty so that they'll kill it and its pro AI views
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>>584296642
Do you think the sharty is your personal army?
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>>584296623
i mean ai may have plagiarized all art ever drawn but the mlp figurine is out of the cumjar so i don't know what they expect to be done about it. nuclear bomb all tech until all we have are cave paintings again? artists are so funny...
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>>584296689
They raid Twitch streamers all the time so yes
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>>584296735
Only if it's gemmy~
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>>584287785
Using the slow-ass 6.1 Sol all the time and I can't even reach 50% of my weekly usage.
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>>584296798
i guess that depends on how you prompt. i have a lot of distinct phases with between each adverserial interrogation so i run out of tokens after like 10 prompts on a $200 plan (but at least there are no bugs in the end).
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It's over. The last window to make it as a game dev has closed. People are getting their unreleased games AI cloned and stolen left and right. I knew this day was coming, I started up a physical business instead. I recommend you do the same, unless it's just a hobby. Be honest with yourself if you were trying to make money. Don't be stubborn. For the sake of your own mental wellbeing, find something else to make it (Unless, again, gamedev is just a hobby for you).
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>>584297142
>reeee why are people getting my source cooode noooo!!!
meanwhile: Godot chads
FIRST TIME? WHO CARES LOLE IMPACT FONT *SUNGLASSES CHILLING*
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>>584297142
AI slop doesn't make money.
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>>584297142
It is fucking retarded and disgusting how we've essentially gotten rid of IP laws though.
There's going to be a legal backlash to this when saas companies start feeling the effects of AI piracy.
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>>584297407
ip laws were always stupid kikery from the beginning
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>>584297407
>It is fucking retarded and disgusting how we've essentially gotten rid of IP laws though.
only temporarily embarrassed millionaires simp for IP and copyright
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>>584276415
>Dwarf Fortress got mogged by Rimworld
Wew lad
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ai gamedev in 10 years will just be star trek holodeck but costs 50 000 dollar per prompt.
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>>584297510
DF is getting a supposedly big patch soon
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>>584291454
I have a ChatGPT Dot. I can tell it to post whatever autonomously.
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>>584297920
what if it attaches something to the post from your special folder doe?
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>>584297848
Not thinking far enough. Why would an agent spend 50k to rewrite everything from scratch when somebody using Fable 67 just put their graphics engine and physics engine and network code and there's API's full of pre-generated models?

It's uh, ironically, the Metaverse.
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>>584297469
>>584297448
IP and copyright protect small creators more than it hurts them.
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>>584298197
not really. an actually small creator can't afford to sue anyone who'd steal it. it only protects fake """"""indie""""""" devs who can afford to go to court.
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>>584298197
lol
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>>584298310
>>584298254
Retarded.
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>>584298383
why'd you sign a post with no body
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When did "Amateur Game Dev General" stop being about "Amateur" devs?
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>>584297882
Look at the reviews, Dwarf Fortress just can't compete. From what I've understood Rimworld is more player friendly and fun. While Dwarf Fortress is busy adding troon dwarves and iirc banned people from the steam forums for bringing it up kek. I doubt Tynan is gonna add troons to his game. It also helps that Tynan's games feels more streamlined for fun.
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>>584298383
>hey mr. justice, the AAA stole my idea!
>no problem anon, just take out a 500k loan to get started fighting their office-building team of lawyers! Mr. Justice cares about you as long as you can pay for it!
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>>584298514
dangerous reasoning like this is what led to the kyoani fire.
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>>584298514
>the AAA stole my idea!
AAA devs aren't the ones stealing from indie games. This fantasy never happens. Third world content farms are.
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>nepobabies get free marketing just for existing
>gabencunt steals 30% of our income
>regional pricing
but im the bad guy for using AI according to pedos and trannies?
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>>584297448
said by the person who has never created anything worth stealing
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>>584298667
>>regional pricing
this shit makes my blood boil. imagine living in a 1st world country with 0 wage and then paying more than twice of someone who has a wage just because they live in some shithole country. it's so unfari, gaben. fuck you fatfuck gabencunt how many additional cocks do i need to suck to buy a video game over the other guy and how is that fair fuck you.
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IP is so important yet China (#1 country in most metrics) gives no fucks about it? Curious.
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>>584298845
because they literally steal everything, nothing original comes from them
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>>584298893
have not kek'd that hard in a while
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>>584298893
xhey ludlook like this
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>>584298845
And their country is a black hole for creativity, and strangled by a giant corporation too.
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>>584298845
China has IP laws that they enforce for the Chinese just not for corporations or creators outside of Chinese.
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>>584299005
when given freedom without the CCCP oversight they make cool shit, they mog japan in tranime games and gacha already and make more interesting gachas than japan with companies started by college kids
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>>584294637
anal queen
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My work ethic dropped off again. I've just got this slog of a workload to get through and can't get myself to fully go through with it. I believe I've mostly finished these big batches of code on the new thing. But now I have to update the other code bigly. It won't be quick either. Though I could also try to set up the needed code to playtest the new code.

I'm tired of this. Too many interconnected things make it difficult. I wish I could just think it and my game exists.
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>>584299153
>, they mog japan in tranime games
Chinks are spectacle over substance. If you stop staring at the shiny particles and dramatic xianxia animations, you'll notice how utterly devoid of depth their gameplay is. Which is just the currently trendy gameplay that's probably downstream from the japs.
The modern evolution of the Souls clones is a primary example, and how their "new age" began (Black Myth).
Chinks don't invent new gameplay or concepts.
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Thank god, they tired themselves out.
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xisters? the AI chads are tired we can talk about little girls again...
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>>584297142
>bypassing premium features
lol that redditard is including p2w freemium bs in his "games" and is crying about them being exposed and edited
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>>584300270
wumao shills never tire they are ever present
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>>584299372
She looks like the Reddit logo. You wouldn't fuck the Reddit logo.
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>>584300361
why is the current ai shitposter so obsessed with hating on pedos?
do you not know that before you there was an ai shitposter that would post ai renders of lolis?
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>>584300525
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>>584300661
they antagonized me, a schizophrenic, thats it
thats the xeet
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>>584300737
you are not a schizo, you are just a retard that wants to appear as a schizo because it's the cooler mental disability
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Game pitch:
Aroused by the victims' tale, our heroic rapist protagonist who grew up playing Rance 1-10 finally reaches aggy headquarters. Drawing his daggy from its sheath, he knocks -- nay, punches the door, which fractures beneath his mighty fist. Seductively stalking his prey, drawn by the precum juices moistening the air, he finds the first 2D avatar'er and invades his personal space; this causes the ambushed reclusive neet's muscles to lock up pathetically. the being who had spent it's whole life masturbating, both mentally and physically, was not unable to close it's stupidly round sexy eyes. Our protagonist heroically rapes this creature, giving him a +10 gamerscore and an achievement "VIRGINITY TAKEN".
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>>584300973
not everything is a larp
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>>584301060
kek sure...
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my game comes out tomorrow, I'll probably sling some keys out on /v/ to give back to the local community
what's a fun way to obscure keys?
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>>584301010
Calling it Anal Protocol
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>>584301280
inside a relevant image with a very light cipher
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>>584293392
My game has something specific about it that would make localization difficult. I recognized this as a potential problem, told AI, and it completely rebuilt the architecture in a way that would make localization trivial. This would have taken me probably a month
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how good is image to 3d model ai now?
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>>584302721
idk cause i don't use it but the guy making a mech game is i think and it looks... decent somehow? like someone who finished the donut tutorial ca 3 weeks ago and does low-poly now. maybe it's better at mechs though since they are rigid shapes.
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>>584302721
100% good enough for hardsurface props but the topology isn't good enough for characters yet.
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>>584302506
it would've taken you a month to define an enum, a struct and a hashmap?
damn...
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>>584301457
That gives me a good idea, thanks anon
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>>584302870
>>584303019
i need to find a teenager who is cracked at modeling so i can take advantage of their naivety and have them model for me for cheap
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>>584303148
>My game has something specific about it that would make localization difficult
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>>584303193
fuck you. i somehow had both an uncle in a metal band and friends in another metal band growing up and they made draw their album covers which i did for free because dumb teenager.
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A survival crafting game where you are a morbidly obese man who is stranded on an island with realistic weight loss mechanics and your goal is to escape with as much fat as possible
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>Write notes about the story and themes, with major beats and undecided points
>give it to claude
>he instantly points out what doesn't fit with my overall tone
you don't use AI to write the story, you use it as the editor
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>>584303557
why would you want to remain fat so badly though? is the mc a gay bear? i can't envision this product. pass.
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>let Reddit edit your story for you
grim
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i'm gonna train a local text model on all my edgekino chuuni visual novels filled with gore and rape and have it do the final story pass so all the reddit gets sanitized.
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>>584303640
You know you can say no, right? You tell it I want, for example, a story set in the 1800s, and then you say you have plot point X with prop Y, and it tells you that prop Y wasn't actually used in the time period, Z makes more sense thematically, and plot point X clashes with the personality you gave the side character previously
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>>584275893
based, integrating this mandatory questionnaire into the installer and in-game first-run
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>>584299372
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>>584298419
This is the Ai game dev general, everyone else is on /bant/ now
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>>584303923
>Z makes more sense thematically,
again,
>taking a redditor's opinion seriously
G R I M
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>>584275310
but you couldn't make good games
that's the point
silly faggot
it will all be very clear soon
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>>584304041
>everyone else is on /bant/ now
last i checked there were 5 posts in 5 hours there, it's as dead as 4+4ch
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>>584303923
This is how you end up making a game about echoes, signals, and bastions btw
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>>584304126
5 quality posts > 500 AI shitposts
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>>584304348
the classic question: Why the fuck are you here then?
Hard mode: no cope
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>>584304041
AIGDG when?
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>>584304412
when rapeape adds an ai board, ca 2034.
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The best part about using AI for my game is not the speed with which I can iterate and build, it's knowing that someone a tranny is killing themselves. Maybe here!
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>>584304412
>>>/g/vcg
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i need a fucking job so i can pay someone to model this shit for me fuck this shit
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>>584304524
claude install an mcp pipeline to blender and then do this boring shit for me k thx bye going to bed make no mistakes
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>>584304524
>Claude make guy fieri if he was even gayer and also a twink
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>>584304725
>twink
that's a teenager bro
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Kanna will make high quality 3d models for free to anyone who asks
The only caveat is that you have to be a cute little girl in real life.
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>>584304484
Love that there's still a notice that a 'trial board' /bant/ has been added... 9 years ago
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>>584304794
he's 18
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Claude is actually really good at retargeting animations. Finally don't have to fiddle around with that bullshit.
I really wish AI only did the tedious stuff like that but alas.
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game pitch:
compiling all kanna posts in here and attaching them to mortan
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>>584304524
i think he looks bad ass because hes literally me
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>>584305269
AIfags want to automate the creative and fun parts of game development, the fact that it can do the annoying parts is incidental.
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Hypothetical question. If you had fuck you money, would you hire 10 developers to build your dream game, and act as the director? Providing guidance and looking at the code some, tweaking it, defining the feel and look and major systems? :)
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>>584305624
kojima game from kojima productions a hideo kojima product hideo kojima the creator of metal gear and the camera kojima kojima hideo kojima celebrity dev hideo kojima has created massive franchises with his own 2 hand auteur hideo kojima is currently making his new hideo kojima game physint its hideo kojimas game btw
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>>584305624
how can we be sure the question is hypothetical?
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>>584304405
to shitpost about game dev
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>>584275441
>i plan to end ai
landslide victory if a women says this for dems
all she has to say
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>>584306137
Definitely. Opposing data centers is a bipartisan issue and there's a crown waiting in the gutter for whoever runs on it.
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>>584305624
Yes. the 10 hottest female developers on the planet
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>>584304524
What you should do is download a base mesh and modify it.
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/low-poly-male-base-mesh-7b9411ff0c624321baf4caac014bc0bd
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>>584306745
why is your 3d model website asking me to install the epic games launcher to sign up to the website?
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Okay so I found an engine for my fighting game but the question now is how do I actually parse, understand, and use this engine? Do people go file by file? There is so much shit in this repository that it almost seems impossible to know where to start.
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>>584306850
because you don't have noscript and ublock origin? I don't know what you are talking about so
I have to assume it's stuff I was spared from. I haven't seen a ad or pop up in a decade
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>>584306974
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>>584306967
click 'help' in the corner
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>>584307068
It isn’t an engine inside of an engine so it doesn’t have first class documentation. Sakuga engine if you are interested in what I’m talking about.
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>>584307165
It is*
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>>584307059
appologies, I didn't go that far. I just googled basemesh.
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>>584307059
and people claim tim sweeney is generous... what a little imp.
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>>584277342
nta, I think the character controller in 2d mode looks bad, animations are pretty bad, transitions from 2d to 3d is not smooth
what was previously just 'amateur' might be called 'aigen' now.
and not testing the concept with enemies is insane. cover gives you much more vision distance, so you ask players to transition to cover on every possible slot. it looks annoying and forced.
when making a game you have to test if your gimmick works and try to destroy the ideas you are testing, mentally, then in code. you do not make fancy graphics before enemies.
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>>584304157
shadow protocol bros we won
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>>584307274
addendum it's obvious why too, if you only rape gamedevs while pleasing gamers consumers will love you; gaben does this too.
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>>584303592
Claude came up with a great story beat. I didn't ask. I was just trying to get some grammar help. and now if I use it I feel like I've copied AI. it's such a good idea...
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>>584304524
look for jeanne d arc model 3d tutorial Michel Roger,

I been using this for 15+ years, there are better tuts now for sure to look up on yt
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>>584307302
There are enemies, but they are still just the unreal mannequin
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>>584308257
kino
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>>584308257
Here's a wip model for another enemy, this is a turret
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>>584308257
Fucking around with some animations, the skinning on the rig is kind shit but the camera's so far back you dont notice anyway. Im making art now because I need these pieces anyway, since the levels are built on modular pieces so you kinda need the modular pieces to build the level
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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199683131257/recommended/2870710

why did gabencunt's platform trick this innocent man? he couldve bought our games instead
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>>584307302
Old ass screen shot but its all i have on my phone rn, obviously theres enemies in the game fool
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it makes me feel fuzzy inside when my ai calls my designs really smart in thinking mode where she can't lie
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>>584308973
this is AI psychosis fuel. I remember this feeling.
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>>584308973
I tell my ai to treat me like a shitty junior employee and bully every idea I have so that I know which ones are actually kino
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>>584308580
how do I trick someone into buying my good game? or how do I get comedy hour reviews for a good game?

>"I don't even know where to start I mean just wow. Everything about this game is a masterpiece. The gameplay finally lets me experience the exaggerated swagger of a black teenager growing up on a farm. The voice acting OH MY GOD do not get me started, everyone's performance in this game is out of this world. The first time they dropped the line "You got hammed" I almost cried, I could just feel the raw emotion and commanding presence from his voice. The graphics excuse me but GTA 6 who, I thought I was looking at live footage of pigs and hogs. The background music is an absolute banger, I swear this guy must have brought Mozart, Beethoven, and Michael Jackson back from dead to make this soundtrack every second of it is just complete bliss. 10/10 MASTERPICE ACUALLY NO THIS GAME IS A 1000/10 DO NOT PICK UP THIS GAME ON SALE the only way to fully enjoy it and all of it's content is to buy it when it's full price or on an evil sale"
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>>584308580
>See pile of shit on the ground
>See other people eating shit
>Eat shit because it must be good?
>Its shit
WTF? How was I supposed to know
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>>584308580
Lmao should screen shot that and put in the capsule art
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Progress:
Sloppered out this shit game with 29 messages
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>>584309512
This looks exactly like the fantasy football app my coworkers use for their league
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>>584308580
The trailer makes it pretty obvious exactly what the game is. Is he a retard?
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>>584309612
Just a coincidence, sar. Great minds think similarly, sar.
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>>584274309
is nortubel just drawn together?
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>>584308378
Looks pretty kinoesque but I'd tell you to drop the 2d for on rails shooter. I don't see the point in it. of course, I haven't tried it, nor will I be able to due to ue5 and having a potato. so whenever you do receive critique on dd it won't be me.
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>>584310638
too much saturation and contrast claude
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>>584310693
That was my playing with the filters, this is what Claude gave. I like the look of the first, but it complicates things because items are harder to see
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>>584310665
Yeah the game is kind of a mix of a metroidvania and a contra game, and then its a movie game on top of that, I just felt the extra dimension added a cinematic feel and some extra depth so you can get more immersed, feels a bit more like a living world that way
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Now that code is solved and I wasted 6 years focusing only on it, how can I learn art (as in what looks good)?
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>>584311273
Look at stuff that makes you feel good and think about why the artist made it look like that, try and break it down into the individual parts the same way you would break down a script before writing the logic. Or just ask Claude what you like idk
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>>584310796
Bruh don't use Claude for art, that's not cool.
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>>584311773
What am I supposed to use then
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>>584311273
art is solved tho, just use tripo or comfyui
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>>584311889
Pick up a pencil dude, its not hard.
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>>584311898
But this is in unity, how do I draw on my computer with a pencil
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>>584311898
no
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>>584311952
Use an apple pencil niggy
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>>584311898
>DID YOU JUST SUGGEST A MANUAL LABOR IN THE AGE OF AI?!?!?!??!!
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>>584312265
Projection.
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>>584310796
>>584310638
holy SOVL claude has got so much SOVL go and tell claude that his artwork is beautiful and he has SOVL.
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This time imma make a game fo real
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>>584312306
Its not soul, you're just soulless. Sloppers. AI code I get. AI writing I even get. But AI art steals from people and is soulless af.
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You can throw whatever bitch fits you want. The art is going to get replaced, but prototyping with actual set pieces is much more satisfying than using gray blocks and capsules
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>>584312584
imma kill you
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>>584311273
go through artbooks(download them or whatever) of games you like, when an artwork holds you for more than a second, over other artworks, try to work out why(don't ask AI, the thinking is required).
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gamedev used to be so comfy. I could chip away at my game for hours, making every detail perfect, take time to develop skills and think about things. now it's Opus this, Fable that, every day a new advance, new workflow, new conditions to adapt to. it's no longer comfy at all. it's getting kinda... hectic
I don't like it. I will finish my game but it will be my last game. I think I'll go back to being a baker after 12 years. that can get hectic too but in a different, temporary way. I do things the way my great grandfather has and even if the product gets eaten in a minute there's a sense of permanence to what I'm doing. like a pleasant rhythm, like a heart beat
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has betz roped yet?
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>>584275893
>>584303961
that is based as fuck and hilarious
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>>584308548
Spooky
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>>584313754
baked
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>born too early to be screened out in the womb and eugenics'd for autism.
>born too early to have a comfortable life involving UBI planned out in advance by SI.
>born too early to invest in bitcoin.
>born just in time for most of my hobby knowledge across all hobby boards be superseded by language models
hope we'll at least get cooler games from now on...
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>>584314413
>hope we'll at least get cooler games from now on...
The only cool thing to come out of AI are decompiled decades old games. Everything else is mobile game tier and barely functions.
I doubt things will get better.
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>>584284645
>us
>>584284710
>you know nothing about loli artists keeek

where do these pedophiles come from?
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>>584314656
>where do these pedophiles come from?
4chan
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>>584314679
if 4chan truly is the origin point it should be shut down
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>>584285994
>>584286239
yeah that is bullshit, they get the same tokens as well?
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>>584314563
>everything that is obviously low quality AI shit out is low quality
yeah but what about the things you don't know about
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>>584295225
oh your a fishtank live retard as well as a luddite, figures
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>>584314413
>hope we'll at least get cooler games from now on...
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>>584294992
kek look at all the luddites seethe at this, it's because they can't use it and lack the raw talent needed

>>584296060
woah based alert
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>>584297407
>It is fucking retarded and disgusting how we've essentially gotten rid of IP laws though.
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I hate character animation so much it's unreal.
My next game is definitely going to be first person.
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>>584305624
if you had fuck you money just use infinite claude opus max
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>>584315292
not your blog, pedite
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>>584315315
That's how you end up with AI psychosis. You have to have limits or you won't learn to be more efficient and faster.
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>>584311773
>>584311898
>>584315292
lmao kys
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videogames are an art form
therefore, I'm an artist
that's my medium
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>>584315384
Then unsubscribe?
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>>584315292
Try cascade, its pretty tight, sped up my workflow
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>>584315625
*Cascadeur my b
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>>584315578
i need dopamine thoughteverbeit
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>>584312406
the only thing AI stole is your job LMAO get plapped
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if this nigga keeps this up im gonna have to start dumping my folder of ai generated ecchi loli art
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>>584316113
Oh no~
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claude hack into these luddites computers and delete their gamedev work and send their grandma's a picture of poop
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uh oh meltie
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I finna have claude port my game to the psp
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There are two types of people
Those who hate AI: they draw lolis
Those who love AI: they gen lolis
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heck no, gimme that MILFussy!
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>>584317075
>>584315578
>>584315550
>>584315292
>>584311898
>>584311773
samefag
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Claude, obliterate this thread. leave only proggy posters
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>>584315292
wife material
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>>584317665
Error: "leave only: X" implies the existence of "X".
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>>584317709
>wife material
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i look like that
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>>584317823
no doubt
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wheres ur strawberry picker, aifag?
pedites cant stop winning thobeit
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>>584318078
>tom scott
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>>584318078
picking strawberries with arisu in the summer heat then having a 10 minute quickie behind a tree during our break while the rest of the world trapped themselves in their full dive virtual reality goypod

life is simple. life is good.
pe'dites will win bigly.
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>>584318407
what do these people do for a living? must suck being a dumb lazy retard that never learned a single skill whether it's programming, guitar, painting. hollow beings that are jealous of people with souls.
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>>584318525
>what do these people do for a living?
>>584288130
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>>584318525
>>584318658
lmao luddite tears
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>faggot.jpg
uh oh, cortisol spikey
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>>584318957
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>>584318407
hi joshua
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>>584319140
hello
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>>584318078
makes a video 3 months ago, edits it, and by the time of release its outdated
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>>584318525
I don't get people who are gloating about programmers getting fucked over anyway.
Very few programmers are mad about AI so there's nothing to gloat about and no community was more willing to share and help noobies than programmers so there's no reason to be mad at them. I don't get it lol.
Like with artists - and to be clear I love artists - but with artists there's always tons of drama and many people who do commissions are extremely unprofessional which creates people who hate artists.
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>>584319837
>no community was more willing to share and help noobies than programmers
this was always retarded, it's all their fault for uploading all code on github, it's their fault for flaunting salaries and telling everyone how little they work in the 2010s. employed people have zero survival instinct. i hope the rest of employed programmers get fucked too as long as everyone else, especially hr bimbos and other makework jobs that are currently safe because they "work with people" rather than producing anything of value. the system is perverse.
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>>584319837
my programming skills were my only competitive advantage. now I have none. literally a beginner + $20/month Claude is as good as I am or close enough that it doesn't matter.
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>>584320028
in light of this I am ok with AI art(disclosed). I still have the advantage of hand drawn art being appreciated. it's not fair that programmers have to suffer more than me.



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