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Vote Violet Edition

>Latest patch:
https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>584280992
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This thing
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Best reticle?
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>>584312362
Default, dot or a small cross with a hollow center
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>>584312362
I've been using cross without a dot but I feel like I lose sight of it easily in fights
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13 hours until /OURHERO/ is in
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that anon asked for no new threads lets delete this
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violetchads... I have a feeling /ourgirl/ won't win today. thoughts?
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what kind of person unironically queues mirage?
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What is with dotard obsession with draft
>noooooo we cannot let people play what they like
>noooooooo we must have arbitrary random "hard counters" in the roster that only exist to counter niche heroes anyway
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one thread closer to having a conventionally attractive feral canine hero in the game
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Why are Violet voters so delusional? You're fighting for 5th with Harrow.
>b-but the asia players are voting her!
The Asia playerbase is basically nonexistent compared to NA and EU.
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>>584312521
Imagine Violet fixing you with her hollow soulless chinksect dead fish eyes as she gives you a 3/10 boobjob with her petite little Oriental pudding tits
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>>584312613
>conventionally attractive feral canine
no such thing, freak
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Deadlock players are gross, voting for their gmilf and bestiality.
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>queue up
>stomp the enemy team in a landside win
>get stomped by the enemy team in a landside loss
>stomp the enemy team in a landside win
>get stomped by the enemy team in a landside loss
there must be more to life
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>>584312545
My favorite part about enemy Mirage players is that you can literally see them seething just by watching them play
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you know its harrow today right?
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you now remember when you were new with ~100 hours played and thought victor and bebop were the most broken heroes in the game... good times
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I like playing draintank Geist. I know I shouldn't, I know that it's a sin, but holding W is too fun
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ganking solomon is so funny he literally can't do anything aside from jump dashing and slowly gliding while low hp
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am i retarded or is building around royal pestments bullet return a noobtrap, m1ggers just heal the returned damage back with their free heals like wraith cards and smoke bomb bullet lifesteal
>>584312843
until you escape initiate rank and solomons buy stam mastery and use troonvement to disappear onto rooftops with their celeste 0 gravity jumps
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>>584312701
Don't reply to him, he will get thrown in prison for a sexual crime sooner or later
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>give rubick's ult steal to a character with an aoe sheepstick that amps damage
>he's one of the most most underpicked, underplayed heroes in the entire game
what went wrong?
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>>584312576
>lose the game from the draft if you play against good players
>"WTF DRAFT DOESN'T MATTER WHO CARES ABOUT THAT I WILL ONLY PLAY WHAT I WANT!!1!!"
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I've realized that littermaxxing is the best way to play this game. Characters that throw shit on the floor are the comfiest to play
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>>584312943
Stack Retvn Fire with it and get either Inhib or Crippling Headshot depending on if you prefer carbs or veggies.
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Solomon isn't even strong but he's annoying to play against
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>>584312701
unimaginable levels of cope-wait... I know exactly what you're doing, fine you can have an example
>>584312958
I guarantee I will not :^)
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>>584312714
what do you mean?
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baba nerfs when
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>>584313010
I've also been trying to littermax, iykwim
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>>584313073
just had 0-11 baba, 0-6 bebop and 0-9 yamato in standard

nerfs not needed
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>In queue for 7 minutes
>In queue for 8 minutes
>In queue for 9 minutes
Climbing was the worst decision I ever made. I understand what Adam and Eve felt like now, tempted by the serpent(the allure of Eternus) into being cast out of Babylon(comfy shitlow queues)
Do I make a new account and play nothing but standard or what?
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>>584313061
Mirage mains are the only ones that consistently have vendettas against other players. You will see them dive an enemy walker with 50 HP just to get revenge on the guy that fucked him lane
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>>584313261
My standard queues are like 5 minutes minimum. I think the algorithm is just dogshit slow since it's vibecoded sloppa.
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>>584313261
Just imagine in 10 years you'll be able to flex on everyone with your season 1 beta phantom hideout medallion.
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>Eternus
>Infernus
>E6
>I6
>Isix
>Ifrit
Do you see it?
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>>584313285
nah that's sinclair players. the biggest ego players in the game. these fuckers will dive backline despite it 100% being a suicide just to have an opportunity to outplay someone. 9 times out of 10 they are dogshit
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Am I supposed to still go in there and tank stuff if I go scrapgrenade max
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>>584313493
Yes
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Hear me out.

Abrams should be nerfed.

you can't even parry this fucker if he pushed you against the wall
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>playing a match
>do just ok in my lane, die twice but help my lane partner get a lead
>another lane has shit the bed, feeds a lot, and the talon types "I'm done" and AFKs in base
>we get our shit pushed in every fight and I'm just trying to run damage control on the lanes and walkers
>halfway through the game Talon comes out of base and actually gets a kill
>type "hey thanks for coming back" to encourage the behavior and not shit on him
>he goes "lmao you're trying and still 1-8"
>he goes back to afk in base and we lose
>enemy player types "ez" in all chat as patron explodes
I don't think I can play competitive games any more.
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>>584313493
do not max nade first you brick
His rats or ult are so much better.
You legit can get people to -40% bullet resist its so disgusting.
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>>584312271
Why vote for her when it's obvious she's going to lose because of her being asian and okay-looking?
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>>584313540
>"lmao you're trying and still 1-8"
How are you going to recover from this?
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>>584313569
Not max ability first, but buy items that maximize grenade damage and AoE. Pretending i'm a backline Paige spamming bookwyrm
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>play rat king
>go in
>take damage
i have done my part
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>>584313578
>loser mindset
What am I supposed to vote for? Something I don't want?
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>>584312943
Okay but everyone else can move too and better, his low gravity doesn't give him Celeste's air control.
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hapabros are we going to finally win this one
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>>584313636
I'm not that's why I'm bitching about it
fucking little nigger throws a game (after feeding of course) and makes me feel bad because I'm not very good, but I at least try
I did report him for griefing and encourage the other players in the lobby to do the same, hopefully he does
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>>584312759
when i was new with 100 hours victor didnt exist i thought abrams was op and broken
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>>584313578
I don't like Violet because she's boring
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This game is too hard
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>>584312759
900 hours later
bebop still is
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>>584314084
she's not even out bub
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I'm not voting for Violet because gooks-law dictates that all asian female characters must have annoying kits
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the darkness comes for you
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>>584314224
I already know what her character is just like with Solomon and Baba and Rat King
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>>584313578
No reason to, she's just boring, her voice lines don't inspire anything, and the design is just... bland. Like discussed in previous threads, if they made her like a schizo like Van Gogh who only had nominal control of her abilities that would be so much more of an interesting character concept. As it stands, it's... bland.
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>he queued?
>send a quadriplegic retard to join his team as baba
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>>584313329
hopefully the game will be in open beta by then
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How does the voting count work?
Is it the total from the beginning and they just release who has the most votes from the total or do they internally reset the votes after each hero release?
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let's get dat bishop movin
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>>584314526
Voting doesn't matter, Yoshi rigged it so that the heroes are released from most cancerous to least cancerous.
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I think Graves would fuck Solomon to harm her parents.
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>>584314651
ESL alert
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>>584314346
Why is it always the Yamato players who are this pathetic?
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>>584314858
stop getting parried lol
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>>584313540
pve soon (2028)
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>YOU MUST KILL THE ORANGE KING
What did the Archmother mean by this?
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>getting my ass beat and losing lane too often
>"man, what am I doing wrong? lets go for some vods of better players and see what they do different"
>their lane partner isn't a drooling retard and helps them apply pressure or create plays
>their other lanes don't go 0/6 to a carry
>their team understands the concept of macro and objective gameplay
so that's how it is
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>>584314938
yes that's how it is bro you are doing everything perfectly and it's everyone else's fault and you are just special
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>>584314858
They reek of desperation
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>>584314175
I will click soon bro, trust me. I only started doing decently after 40-50 hours of pure gameplay
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A reminder that animals don't wipe and neither does Silver
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oh no no no
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>>584315135
I sometimes parry in the middle of fuckhuge fights and I get a parry or two, they're melting down instantly.
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>>584312362
For me it's a circle with a dot in the middle. Circle size changed with who I plan on playing to be in line with the spread of their weapon.
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>>584313578
She'll lose cause she looks and sounds like a shitty libtard art grad's self insert OC rather than anything actually interesting design-wise. Has nothing to do with the fact that she's not some manjawed DEI failure. She's just dull as shit.
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>grandma nigger tanked bop mina and seven ult and not even dying
>heals to full after 5 seconds

at least rat king dies if you focus fire on him but this nigger nana is tankier than fucking victor himself
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>>584314858
>>584315021
holy assmad
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>>584315135
your lane parner sir
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when did you accept violet was going to be voted next?
for me? 5 minutes ago.
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>>584315390
This
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The Lash believes world is a better place with you in it
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>>584315067
you're supposed to wipe for them so you can get your nose all up in there later and it doesn't smell bad
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>>584315918
lash would say that
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>>584315918
The LASH does it again
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>>584315171
Sometimes people see shiny blue light and it actually haywires something in their brain and they want to melee you doing it.
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>>584315918
The Lash would tell them to keep yourself safe
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>>584314651
It's an act of teenage rebellion, it's also why she lets strays knot her
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>>584315672
>unironically believing violet will win
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>>584314858
What an odd stereotype...
I have never experienced Yamato players as anything other than just normal or noobs
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I want to vote for rat king again
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I've been voting Harrow since day 1 and she'll be dead last.
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>>584314938
Most of high elo is just duo abusers if that makes you feel better
Way easier to win lane when you're up against randoms with a guy you know who's consistent and human.
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>>584315135
I say this when I throw a raw heavy melee with absolutely nothing else going on and get parried
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spirit burn or transcendant cooldown for carbinedox?
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>>584316709
most "duo abusers" have as many or more solo queue games and a >60% solo queue wr
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ADD MORE JEROES MORE MORE HEROES DOLLY CAREER IF THEY COMPLETE RUIN THE GAME NOW JUST ADD MORE HEROES
what is that? will i actually play most of them??
...


ANYWAY ADD MORE HEOES MORE AOE SLOP ADD ANOTHER HETO THAT IS IMMUNA TO DANSGE SBD DTUBS EVETONE
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god i love watching eternus streamers bitch and moan about baba all day
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>>584316545
>violet wins
>violet doesn't win, which means I can keep voting for her
its a win/win
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the worst part about liking an unpopular character is that when they come out you still wont get to play them because all the drooling autists who sat around for 3 weeks going "ew, WHO would VOTE for THAT character" are going to be spamming games on them because they're new and shiny the moment they're playable
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what makes a man vote rat king?
what makes a man vote baba?
what makes a man vote solomon?
what makes a man vote violet?
what makes a man vote danny?
what makes a man vote harrow?
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when is warden allowed to be good again?
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>>584317215
I like harrow's design and the bag being a mouth is cool
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>>584317078
if they actually bitched she'd already be nerfed 6 times
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>>584317215
We are all women here
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>throw rat grenade
>get top damage

how is this shit ok but warden needs to be nerfed into uselessness
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>>584317336
New hero privilege
Stop being so entitled chud
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>>584317336
new hero privilege
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>>584317078
Those same people called her weak day 1 because they're retards
They're also the only people Yoshi listens to for feedback on balance
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the past:
dota 2 characters created by humans

the present:
deadlock characters created by indians using chatgpt
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I'M DA KING OF DA RATS, BABY
*runs away*
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>>584315918
The Lash is saying that because he's a 12k trash
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>>584317215
>what makes a man vote harrow?
I dig her design and she might actually be some sorts of angelic being
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>how is this shit ok but broken character that's getting removed in a few months needs to be nerfed so they stop terrorizing lobbies across all ranks
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I see a woman, I vote
Shrimple
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>>584317215
>what makes a man vote violet?
>what makes a man vote harrow?
for me its being straight
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>>584317526
all 3 remaining chars are women though
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>>584313059
I'm not a freak like you but that is a beautiful dog :)
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>>584317569
Yeah I have lost every vote so far
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>>584317284
true I am (spiritually) a white woman
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>straight
Bwo you are playing the wrong game bwo
Deadlock is about having sex with men
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>>584317215
>what makes a man vote danny?
holiday main who wants a new flier :)
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>>584317215
>what makes a man vote harrow?
weak prostate
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NA servers are literally filled to the brim with homosexuals
Me personally I am also gay but they still disgust me
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>Enemy team just barrel down mid
>Get all rifts and urns uncontested
>They share 1000 souls between 5 for every kill

I'm starting to think that "overwatch tourists" facetious comment isn't as far fetched as I thought. Game is full of kiddies right now. I legitimately saw a post on l*ddit asking for a dedicated healer character who is hot like mercy. What have we become.
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>>584317871
A dedicated healer character in a game like Deadlock where most "supports" have one shield or heal maximum would be quite unique thoughbit
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>>584317871
Overwatch and Rivals tourists will be cemented once they add Harrow, she's a support with healing bullets. Icefrog wants them as players
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>>584317871
Is that bad?
t. brick
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>>584317978
WOW IT IS LIKE AN INTENTIONAL DECISION
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>play like shit as Drifter but we win
>get key player for my high number of assists, because good drifters get kills instead of assists so they're weighted higher
The MVP system in this game is so silly
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this rank system is garbage
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>Oh, and before Anon forgets, even HR can get eternus! All it takes is playing hundreds of games and a positive mindset!
>https://statlocker.gg/profile/1017961772/matches?mode=ranked
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Remember Ivy?
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>>584318107
rank is just some garbage for morons to "grind"
btw every "good player" gets boosted to max rank
it's far far easier to maintain 50% winrate than it is to maintain 55% win rate to climb at ANY rank
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>>584318027
>the game developer wants players from rival games
Say it ain't so...
But if she has healing bullets it will be a temporary buff
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How do you actually deal with baba?
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>>584318585
Build gun
Don't pick heroes that suck with gun
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>>584318585
rape her....
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>>584317215
Based
Cringe
Negro/Yakubite
Tranny
Reddit
Straight
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>>584318720
Based cringe black straight reddit user?
Wait that is us!
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>>584317215
russoid
russoid
woke amerilard
chink
redditor
based 4channer
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>>584317215
What makes a man post anime images?
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*pulls Abrams’ tail*
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Next hero batch will include Hoodwink
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Sorry but Rat King already is our furry quota
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>>584318929
Finally.. valve knows their audience.
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>>584318929
in your dreams
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>>584318027
This isn't an arena shooter though, its a moba
other than both being a third person shooter, they are nothing alike

unironically league of legends tourists would be better at anything but the shooting aspects of deadlock
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>>584319048
>billy won
>rem won
>rat king won
Hoodwink will dominate the vote
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>Infinite sustain
>Massive burst
>Sanguine Retreat
>AoE nuke retardproof ult with silence

They gutted Pocket for less, why does his waifu get to be cancer forever
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>>584319164
kill yourself
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Please invite me
friend code: 191177136
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>>584315918
Lash doesn't want you to kill yourself because then you wouldn't be able to experience a world with the Lash in it
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courier system soon
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start buying Sharpshooter on grenade RK, it gets the 60% weapon damage when you throw it at someone not near you
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>>584317592
>I'm not a freak like you
that's what they all say but before you know it they're out there french kissin' dogs
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>>584319208
Love you too
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>>584317406
my favorite was deathy being the giga retard that he is calling her a support character lmao.
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>>584319203
>>Sanguine Retreat
Genuinely one of the most bullshit abilities in the game
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>>584319284
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>>584319203
because if you fart in her general direction she keels over and fucking dies
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bounty runes soon
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>>584319238
Please response /dlg/
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>>584319730
invite for what
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>>584319730
>tranime
not inviting you
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>>584319389
Post hoodwink lewds.
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>>584319730
I'm phoneposting from work, I can invite you in 6 hours when I get off in case no one invited you yet :)
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>>584319730
no can do. if i invite you and you say nigger nigger nigger and get banned i'll also get banned
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>>584319097
>other than both being a third person shooter, they are nothing alike
It's downright delusional to deny the similarities between the 3, especially Rivals and Deadlock
Both ARE 3rd person hero shooters, Deadlock just has a different objective and map structure that's more in the MOBA direction than the typical hero shooters
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>>584319238
>>584319730
Sent you a friend request, anon
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>>584319752
The game? I thought you need to become friend first before sending invite?
>>584319814
Thanks if it came to that
>>584319924
THANKS
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>>584318585
you shoot her
she is one of the easiest characters in the game to shoot
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>>584319958
It takes anywhere between 1 minute and 5 business days for it to show up so good luck
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>>584320009
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>>584318585
Play m1keys
Don't play 1234eigners
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>rusnig on a smurf duoing with another rusnig also on a smurf
>shilling his youtube at the end of the game
>not even on eu servers
you find incredible stuff queueing at odd hours
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>>584320009
>wealthiest vidya dev on the planet both in absolute terms and by $$$ per employee
>"between 1 minute and 5 business days"
seriously what the fuck is up with valve and being retarded for no reason
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Checking in from Asia region here, playing from Tientsin so closest regions CN, KR, and JP in that order with the occasional SEA username. Every vote is Harrow with a handful of Violet, Danny all but extinct

Unironically the next one is gonna be one of the two hot girls, and then le skelly man
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>>584317336
Rat king doesn't have one of the best m1s in the game
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>>584320374
His gun is genuinely dogshit and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
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>>584312312
>youtube video
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>>584318885
I do this when fucking his swamp ass raw
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>>584320339
In NA Danny has been represented since voting began, I knew that in Asia he was non-existent but I don't know about EU
I would be happier in a world where he is last because it's one less week I have to deal with another fucking flying character
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>>584317176
Literally no one wanted to play apollo on release, I got him 10 games in a row on day 1.
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this hero is way too hard to win on
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im gonna blast fat ropes when violet comes out and plays like invoker
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AOE SLOP
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>>584320521
I'm blasting fat ropes to Danny and his phantasmal cock already desu
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>>584317218
>>584317336
ive been having great warden games recently :^)
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>>584320339
>asians like the hot nurse
baller
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>>584317769
just play para/bebop
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>>584320569
QUEEN'S READY
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>>584320607
disgusting homosexual behaviour
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>>584320569
She will save us.
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The game needs an aoe resistance stat.
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>>584320783
when is the nurse nimi skin coming out for her
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>>584320569
>>584320786
It's clear(?) they're gonna add a T4 Vitality or Spirit item that will clear a zone of floor based shit
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Baba's va is so fucking bad holy shit
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>>584320887
stop being antisemetic chud
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>>584320775
When Danny is playable next and you pick him, you'll have to play him knowing he's in the game because he made my dick hard enough to vote for him constantly since day 1.
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>>584320783
the naked apron skin will save us
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>>584320916
Post the real list, women don't have penises.
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>melee damage has a separate stat dedicated to reducing it
>dot damage is reduced by debuff reducer and countered by dispel magic
>high damage nukes are reduced by spellbreaker
>m1 is reduced separately from resists by slowing attack speed and plated armor and disarms
>aoe, the inherently most powerful damage type, is only reduced by resistance
Justify this.
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>>584321191
aoe is reduced by walking away
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>>584312312
Poor posture.
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>>584320916
you forgot silver (werewolf) and her 16 inch long, red, hot, veiny, throbbing bitch breaker with a 25 inch circumference knot
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>>584320989
same but violet
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>>584320887
Baba really felt like false advertisement. We could've had a kino homeless schizo witch, but we got a jewish lesbian
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baldlock
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>>584321523
Maybe Jerry the Doomsayer if they add him.
>kino homeless schizo tweaker in the park
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>people still think voting isn't rigged
Solomon was specifically scheduled to be released on the national chess day
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>vyper
>ugliest character in the game
>the most fun gun character as well
>no remodel still
>no good fan remodels
brehs, I just want to gun and slide in style...
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Vote for hot milf nurse
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>people bitching about how OP Baba is all game
>Baba loses
>end screen she has significantly less damage than her team with a decent amount of healing
this isn't even the first time I have seen this
just shoot her with your gun it's not hard
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>"Violet's design is bori-"
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>>584321523
>new york game
>character has new york accent
well i never
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>>584319361
french kissing their fortune cookies...
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>>584321882
have you considered that the player piloting her might just be retarded
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just buy rebuttal and mog her massai jumps
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>>584321930
>I think there's evidence to back up a trans reading of Violet's character
americans cant be fucking real kek
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>>584321930
If she's a Chinese folklore demon taking on the appearance of a pretty girl then it's gigakino

If it's just a chink arthoe, then blegh

Baba was already disappointing enough in that she was not actually Baba Yaga pretending to be an old New York Jew
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>>584321930
>violet is trans because she has thick eyebrows and something something yingyang
Zzzzzz
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you guys only like Violet because she is Asian and most probably has a tight pusy
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>>584322059
Its even worse...the image was made by a....canadian tranny
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>>584321976

Building Baba to punch isn't even optimal, the popular Eternus build is some Crayon memebuild that invests in solving week one skill uses related to managing charges, duration and cd.

It is gonna get way worse once Babas start playing a backline bodyguard role with Greater Expansion and that 6,2k AoE spell whose name I forgot (the item next to Spirit Burn). Good luck playing into a Baba who can barrier her entire team.
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>>584321930
The design being detailed doesn't make it good, lest MCU shit be praised.
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>>584322178
americans and canadians are basically the same
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>>584322176
I'm white and have zero sexual attraction to Asian foids

I only like tall blonde NORDIC ladies because my mom is one and I'm a pervert
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>>584322059
That's what almost a century of CIA brainwashing does to a nation
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>>584321882
Every game I've played against 3+ orange heroes I still win and I have the most damage taken on the team so it's not like they aren't shooting me
She power spikes extremely hard in the midgame when she hits 16 AP and starts picking up more 3200 spirit items so it's not difficult to snowball and then itemize around gunslop
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>>584321948
that does tend to naturally follow >:)
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>>584321930
>OOOOHH THA YING ANDA THA YANG CELESTIAN DRAGON EMPEROR DOG MEAT HARMONY
sorry, still voting danny
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I wish Drifter wasn't a complete fucking faggot that did zero damage.
>dude he's hybrid! the meta way to play him is to run in and rend (and hope you don't get CC raped), mark them (and hope they don't dispel it) and teleport and rend again! (and hope you don't get CC raped)
What's the fucking fantasy of this hero exactly? To be the world's biggest bitch?
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>>584322272
I would say the only rough game I've had as baba is the literal worst-case scenario of Wraith + Haze + Vyper + Venator + Rat King and only because every lane lost and we spent all game down 20%
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>>584322272
based on some of the numbers on those teams this is a bot game or players that might as well be bots
it's not representative
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>>584322272
shitlo lobby
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>>584322380
Despite the gimmick of being a 1v1 hero, you are supposed to play him like a hit and run until you are fed enough to just run at people.
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>>584322380
Sniff people out in the jungle and rape them
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>>584321882
>just shoot the hero with one of the most obnoxious hitboxes in the game
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should calico be able to heavy boxes as ava? seems like an oversight by icefrog
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>>584322718
Give her a charged melee attack that breaks boxes, but deals no damage to heroes or creeps
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Played five matches in a row against that cunt Baba, I just fucking abandoned the last one. Fuck off Valve you cocksuckers.
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>>584322653
baba's hitbox is gigantic and her head is so big you can shoot it from the back
I'm not gonna downplay her, I want her deleted from the game, but her hitbox is not a problem
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Rat Kang is near impossible to kill unless you gang up on him and hope he doesnt have refresher
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>Silver into Viscous
This nigger cubed every single person I was about to kill holy fuck
Thank fuck this nigger isn't meta
Also you get hit by one these dozens AOE slows and your character is worthless because of 2stam, when will they give her 3 stam.
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>>584321930
I want her to be a complete Drifter level psycho.
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>>584322910
She's le op and toxic ok she will get nerfed soon
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>>584321930
>violet is ja-
ermm???? she's chinky THOUGH????
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>>584322469
Or just a ganker/chase down fleeing heroes.
He's supposed to prey on the weak (see how valve integrates story and gameplay?)
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>>584321930
this is the same guy that keeps putting his awful takes and then puts lesbian art in the corner calling it 'the yuri corner'
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the enemy team in my standard games always looks like pic rel before the mm reset and like the other anon said my games only feel hard if they have like 4+ scaling gun carries and my team is losing to that somehow
and its not even that bad
you just actually have to build greens and use your brain instead of mindlessly running at the enemies and facerolling your keyboard like you can do against more typical comps lol
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>>584322924
an artist that draws death is a cool concept, but I don't think this is gonna be it
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what is up with people who get mad at you playing the game correctly? like WOW you would dare to combo me when I'm a carry and I have the most souls on my team you need to hecking unalive yourself
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>>584321930
all that to get mogged by a skeletal nigga with a rocket launcher
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>>584322945
Its just funny because what you are meant to do when you get hit by
>Rat king grenade
>Visc Splatter
>Paradox bomb
>Victor aura
etc
that reduces your movespeed to a crawl even with enduring.
Hell I'll take victor aura since at least he needs to be at fighting distance to hit me with it.
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>>584323352
Um she can 1v1 people assuming they don't run away ok she's op
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>>584322910
The best way to play Silver is to go all in on greens and accept you're going to be the soaker of every CC and slowdown and hope your team cleans up getting stuff like hunter's aura express shot etc is a total trap that only idiots fall into
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>>584323352
>no mention of Kevin
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VIOLET IS TRANS!?
*slicks back hair*
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Can the "community" now stop pretending like Deadlock is some masterpiece of writing and not generic Valve quirkxrandom?
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>>584323474
>deal 0 damage
>can't ult
>shit base hp makes greens less effective so you're still squish as shit
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>>584323474
That's basically my de-facto playstyle at this point but it feels bad because she doesn't have the stats to frontline either
Make her a proper frontline or buff her mobility please yoshi I'm sick of getting hate crime'd
>>584323507
I forgot about Kelvin holy shit yeah he's even more cancer
>Disables your stamina regen
>Slows you with AIDS
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>>584323630
If you need to wolf out get like one gun item torment pulse or something like arctic blast
>>584323673
the point isnt to frontline you can't frontline as silver you're going to explode you're there as the meatshield to soak up all the slowings focus lenses while the rest of your team comes in and annihilates them off cooldown
>but what if your team is bad
thats how it is you just lose silver cant carry you have to rely on your team
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... Danny is going to win.
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Silver werewolf form is for me to jumpstart my victor to
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I really like valve games for their characters and styles, but item shop and jungles scare me. Like, what items to buy, when, when I should jungle and etc. Can someone explain in short how it works? I really wanna enjoy the game, but it feels like I need to lose over 10000 matches to understand at least something....
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>>584323474

Baba does that better now desu
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>>584323843
nah my scary milfwife told me to be not afraid and that she is next
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>>584322924
I wish but lets be honest, its not going to happen. Violet is the OW pick much like Harrow is the Rivals pick.
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>>584323529
Don't know why anyone would think the opposite, Valve loves their reddit humor. The recent Dota event was the same.
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>>584323946
LIMBUS COMPANY
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Only way you are getting draft in deadlock if you also accept league of legends style role queue
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>>584323865
all you need to know is what the items do and you'll get it in no time do not fall in the trap of just following public builds learn what the items do and then it'll come naturally you can freely hover over any item and it'll tell you what it does and what abilities it'll affect take for example Metal Skin

If you know Metal Skin exists and a Haze is killing you over and over with her ult it'll come naturally to you that hey maybe I should buy Metal Skin all you have to do is play anon no one gives a shit if you lose in standard and ignore any chimp outs
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how did Valve manage to make such satisfying movement for this game
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I really hope Wrecker gets added soon, he seems like an interesting character premise and a cool rebuttal of McGinnis' worldview when it's taken taken to the extreme (if you're okay with designing weapons to be used in war that've been used to commit atrocities, realistically how upset can you be at someone who actually "get their hands dirty"?).
My only worry is that with both McGinnis and Danny on the roster we now have two different Fairfax shills so a third might feel redundant so soon (Wrecker is under a subsidiary but still fits the mold).
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>>584324000
Nigga instantly gaslighting me players into buying metal skin lmao
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>>584323891
Objectively better yes because she gets free spirit resist that SCALES with stolen spirit + total spirit from items alongside inbuilt debuff resist up to 45%
Meanwhile silver gets 15% spirit/gun resist as a reward for hitting her all skillshots into wolf, wow!
I sure love how granny gets 40%+ spirit resist in the mid and late game for free
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>>584324080
Oh hey its the Paige that gets sleep daggered and then bullet danced over and over that doesn't buy warp stone or metal skin
>but but muh relic muh muh...muh fixated
its to stop the burst from bullet dance sell it later when she gets relic instead of fucking eating a bullet dance 30 minutes in the game and then its too late
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>>584323673
They need to revert the nerfs to her gun and give her back the heal on kill in ult
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>>584324014
edgeboosting is the last stupid unintuitive movement "tech" (glitch) that is still in the game and I wish they'd finally axe it
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Trannymovement
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>>584324162
Nah that shit was cancer as well, the ult resets are what keeps her in the shit cage balancing wise I'd rather they just remove it entirely and just buff wolf form stats so she can wreck shit in a limited time period.
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If Danny doesn't come out today I'm gonna spam nigger in every match
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What dota hero is silver
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"movement techs" are dishoest
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>>584324347
>I'm gonna spam nigger in every match
Dannys strongest soldier
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>>584324402
she is gnar from league of legends
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>>584321930
Holy word galore. Skipped.
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>just realized the dota viper/vyper connection
god damn am i dumb
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danny will have rocket jumps, trust
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>>584324347
yoshi aka abdul told me it's Harrow
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deadman danny here, AMA
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new to this game. the cowboy girl is super hot
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AAAAAAH NOOOOOO DONT NOOOOO DOOOONT NOOOO NOT THE VIOLET VORTEEEEEEEEX NOOOO AAAAAHHH I VOTED DANNYYYYYYY
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>>584324014
Bro the vent was right there...
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>>584323415
I know you're joking but
>I 1v1'd the werewolf with ult up and now I'm dead how could this happen to me??
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>>584324640
does pocket have a peepee or a vagina?
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new to this game. that black guy is super hot
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>>584324713
Bingus...
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deadman danny today
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If Nurse Harrow is next I take a sick leave, fuck my work
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>>584324758
Finally, someone with good taste in men
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>>584324316
>the ult resets are what keeps her in the shit cage balancing wise I'd rather they just remove it entirely and just buff wolf form stats
I've been saying this for a long time
Silver just needs a few tweaks to not be garbage anymore, really
>more bloodlust generation
>more even damage distribution instead of everything being on slam
>remove the wolf refresh on kill, replace it with something like 30% incoming damage reduction in wolf form
Those three things alone pretty much instantly fix the majority of her problems
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>>584324316
Heal was literally the only thing that made her viable and they need to bring it back
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>>584321930
>troon because thick eyebrows
First of all, thick eyebrow girls are cute, second, holy fuck not every identity conflict is about fucking trannies
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>>584317215
>what makes a man vote rat king?
he is reddit
>what makes a man vote baba?
he is slavic
>what makes a man vote solomon?
he is a american golem
>what makes a man vote violet?
asian/coomer/lgbtq+
>what makes a man vote danny?
being based being possed with a faustian spirit
>what makes a man vote harrow?
mommy fetish
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I don't want Silver to be good
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>>584325001
It promoted the feast or famine shit that makes her so unviable
It needs to be replaced with something more consistent
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>>584321930
Thank you for this character design analysis and speculation anon, I enjoyed it
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>>584324080
It's unreal that people are still shilling that garbage item
Most of the time you're better off investing in offense and nuking the m1gger
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>>584325097
I do
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I bet you there will be a dialogue between Violet and Drifter where the latter says something like
>“I'm quite the artist myself you know. I paint in blood"
Or something as cringy
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>>584324758
Infernus is asexual.
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May my 13 votes tip the scale.
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I still don't understand why Silver is the only hero that has been severely nerfed to the ground for no reason
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>>584325708
Graves
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>>584325708
That's because you don't hate Night Shift enough
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>>584325708
because she deserved it
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i'll give a totally unbiased answer
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>>584325708
Because some e-sports faggot posted webm related, basically. I wish I was joking
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>>584325862
4 she is pretty good right now
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>>584325509
>mo and krill player
>votes violet
>barely any votes at all so he's not actually playing the game
Holy fuck a genuine tranny.
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>>584323529
It's mostly carried by performances, as most Valve games are. To be fair there's not much room for stellar writing in what are mostly less than 10 second blurbs and exchanges, so it's more important the lines be memorable and recognizable than anything. Though I agree the conversations get fawned over way too much, when they're consistently some of the weakest writing the game has besides the abysmal bios
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>>584325905
>Hmmm, I will proceed to go into a tiny corridor against the melee form werewolf when I have lash grapple
Lash players...
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>>584325136
It was consistent if you played her right
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>>584325905
>blasts half of his hp twice in one skill
yeah nah
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>>584325708
Shiv?
Sinclair?
McGinnis?
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>>584326158
All Shiv nerfs were deserved
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>>584326146
>use all three skills
>um it's actually only one skill
Why are you so disingenuous?
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>>584325708
Silver isn't the only nerfed to nothing hero but "pros" have a vendetta against her specifically because her bola blocks stamina usage and "pros" abuse movement cheats
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>>584326228
1 in human form halved his hp, other skills just tickled just to again rape him with wolf 1
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>baba is op
guess i'm only playing haze then
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Deadman drifting...
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>>584326146
he landed all 3 of his human form skill shots and still wouldn't have killed him if lash used his grapple properly or just paid attention to his screen.
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>just build gun bro
>oh your hero has zero gun boosts?
>ummm shut up its obly alpha hrtest
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>>584324251
whats wrong with it if everyone has access to it?
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>>584326314
Huh, so the hero literally only has one skill that deals damage and you're surprised that it deals damage?
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>>584326417
>Pay attention to the silver teleporting across the map off spawn
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>>584326397
DANNY GONNA HAVE YOUR HP BAR
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I should be able to get enemy healing orbs if they haven't taken them
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am I out of cumlow?
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>>584326476
>uses 0 skills to get across map
Literally any hero could've gotten to him
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>>584325862
they should rework her weapon and ult
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I'm just waiting for the player count to start dropping again so I can return to dooming
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>>584326584
no, even in e6 people can't play and throw tantrums over the most menial shit
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>>584325254
That's cool though
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>>584326586
SHE'S SO GODDAMN OP!!!
When is yoshi nerfing her to 1 stam, so broken
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>>584326687
1 stam (1 second stamina recharge)
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Please explain why tf I'm not MVP or at least key player?


>inb4 reeee bomb bad gun good
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>>584326476
Using what Silver-specific tech?
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>>584326826
>Spirit Geist
Uninstall
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>>584326826
Who cares nigger key player means nothing
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>>584317417
out of curiosity I asked chatgpt several times to do a deadlock hero and each time it gave me an 1800's-ish stock character with ghosts with some sort of grenade ability, so I think we're safe on the wholly unprompted chatgpt ideas besides hero matchmaking. Though the bio is fairly close to what I'd expect of Deadlock(boring), so maybe there's something there for you
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gun geist is bad
reply to me coward
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>>584326876
>please don't make more dmg with less souls it's le bad you should play gun
hahahahahahahahahahahahah
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>>584325862
4
She's very powerful but is the first character to become rapebait if you do too well and the enemy team has half a briancell
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>>584326826
MVP works on a hidden point system where each hero has different modifiers for how many points they get for the same accomplishments. It is partly automated by comparing against the hero averages meaning that new heroes with no recorded stats are basically free MVPs and winning on dogshit heroes like Silver or playing off meta builds and doing well also gives MVP disproportionately often.
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>>584326826
Probably because Healing also counts and her life drain doesn't affect her healing starts because yoshi is a retard
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>there's a billion voicelines saying "I'm going to rat"
why does Valve use their money funding stupid shit?
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Bebop shouldn't have an uppercut that sends people away, instead he should rip off the clothes of whoever he hooks and trap them in a 20 second rape animation where both players take 50% reduced damage for the duration.
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>>584327450
I'm going to rat.
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>>584327450
It's an important call communicating your strategy, like "retreat" or "leaving the area"
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>>584327450
what's wrong with that? every time I hear Paige's gleeful delivery of that line it makes me smile
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>>584327450
Its to appease the reddit crowd
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>>584327543
Only if whomever wins the rape gets +1 inch in their cock
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>he doesn't know what ratting is
League or rivals refugee?
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>>584321930
feels good to see no one really votes for her
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you know, I still find it really weird how 90% of Deadlock's playersbase are overtroons or rivalfags instead of Valve's other games Dota and CS
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>>584327450
Making it so doing the "I'm with you" ping on rat king makes them say "I'm Gonna Rat!" is maximum oversoul though
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I'm a newer player. I've been following other people's builds for heroes, but I saw in here that I should just make my own and figure it out. Is that true? I have a general feel for the items overall but I feel like I'm not ready to make my own builds.
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>>584327876
Look at the popular items and bee urself :)
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>>584326612
>>584327068
I like to believe that Vindicta is slowly becoming dumber with every anvil that gets dropped on her
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>>584320339
i find it hard to believe the asian audience for this game is big enough to sway the vote
euro players > american players >>> asian players
that's why baba won
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>>584325708
the power gap between release paradox & shiv with current paradox & shiv is greater than the power gap between release silver with current silver
let's also not forget 8% pick rate 40% win rate warden
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>>584325998
No, just a new player, why do you always assume the worst?
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maurice is going to find you
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>>584327954
She is a ghost, she doesn't have a brain anymore
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when I hear the name Vindicta, the first thing I think off is feet and not Vindicta herself.
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>get solomon on team
>lose
many such cases
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>>584328426
honestly what is even his purpose other than permastun if you happen to be in some interior?
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>>584328370
I read Vindict and auto complete to Vindictus
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What to do if falling off late game as Apollo? Hope team distracts enemies while you dance around because the moment anyone turns on you and Indomitable or anything else was down I died.
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>>584325862
4 but is a 2 or a 5 depending on the heroes the other team has and whether they actually counter buy her (they will).
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Harrowbros, are we ready for /our girl/'s debut in 8 hours or so? you guys haven't used your prio tokens right?
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They need to bring back Vindictas sexy feet
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>do well
>lose because my team is shit

>do badly
>lose because my team is shit

I FUCKING HATE THIS RETARDED FUCKING GAME
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>>584328426
>>584328493
He exists to vacuum all the souls in a lane that someone who deals damage should be farming. Those dudes just perma sit lane, lame Bishops and Rooks around and keep it pushed instead of letting it come so the carry can safely farm. Its funny because Solomon tends to have highest or top 3 player damage just from spamming shit in fights but doesn't really DO shit.
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I remember getting aroused by the sound of her bare grippers slapping on the hard ground as she ran
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>>584328536
apollo doesn't fall off though? i really hope you aren't building pure spirit and building shit like tankbuster
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>>584328536
Refresher and use your ult for setup
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Once people get good at baba troonment, its OVER
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HELLO everybody, my name is Markiplier and welcome to Deadlo-
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>>584328732
No way this is true. Right? Haha
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>>584328536
Be an annoying mosquito they HAVE to deal with and make space for the rest of your team. Granted your team has to have hands to follow up on your bullshit.
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>playing standard
>three gay retards forfeit and ragequite 5 minutes in because we got slightly pushed back
>lose beacuse is now a 3x6
by allah may they be beheaded
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>>584327450
>>584327625
>"wtf does rat mean?"
>"must be reddit"

Hello new friends, "Rat" is a phrase from Dota where a team actively avoids big teamfights, and instead focuses on splitpushing and out-positioning the enemy team. It comes from a meme in 2013 where Alliance, led by admiral Bulldog, won the international Dota tournament by splitpushing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTtb1sY_Hw

The idea is you must protect your base/cheese from rats in a room. Every time you go to guard a piece of cheese, another piece of cheese is unguarded. You can run over to protect the other one, but as you leave your current cheese, a rat returns to it

This even exists in League of Legends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jFRkGEwWuw

Understanding the Macro economics of the game is extremely important. You might see the phrase "downplayer" here, which has never existed among the Dota playerbase or League playerbase to my knowledge. For example:

>Victor downplayers
>Silver downplayers
>Celeste downplayers

Where new friends try to manfight heroes/champs that auto-win confrontational fights, and are frustrated when they inevitably die (pic related). I believe this is connected to the confusion of "what does rat mean", as new players don't understand some fights are automatically lost, and there's a splitpushing macro game to fight in order to counter those heroes
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How would you go about making another "Transformation" hero besides Silver gameplay-wise?
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>>584329067
>You might see the phrase "downplayer" here, which has never existed among the Dota playerbase or League playerbase to my knowledge
Downplay is from fighting games. Niggas love to pretend their SSS hero is actually F tier. There's a certain character here with a fanbase that acts exactly like that,
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>>584329067
>Alliance, led by admiral Bulldog
EGM was the leader, bulldog just played his autism heroes
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>>584329067
>webp.jpg
Now this is exquisite
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>>584328629
No, cause despite my best efforts. Danny is gonna win.
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>>584329113
They should make a goo guy that turns into a ball of goo
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>>584328629
Very optimistic of you
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>>584329113
we still need an actual stance switcher
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>>584329067
>You might see the phrase "downplayer" here, which has never existed among the Dota playerbase or League playerbase to my knowledge
"Downplay" is general video game lingo at this point, it's pretty much anything where a player selection like a hero or a weapon is present, it's in fighting games too
You would know this if you played more games than just Dota and Deadlock
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>>584329186
Baba
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>>584329308
Baba players aren't even pretending at this point. It was that way when she released.
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>>584329113
there's always room for a lolipire
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>>584329113
Someone on a mount. While mounted 1-3 are ABC. When you take too much damage you forcefully dismount, and your 1-3 are XYZ. 4 is the same on both but slightly different effects
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>>584328629
who is this whore
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500+ hours in street brawl
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>>584329067
>jak
[-]
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>>584329067
Obligatory Not Those Anons[TM] but just to add to this it's hard as fuck to rat in Deadlock because of how fast rotations can take place. There are so many traversal options like the teleporters, vents, not to mention schmoovement in general, and even if you DO hard push green/yellow you get cucked by the two phases of the patrons guaranteeing the enemy get home(or respawn) in time to stop you from finding an opportune time to go balls deep
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>>584329227
That's right.
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>>584328629
>boob vein
COMPUTER, ENHANCE
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>>584329304
>>584329186
Ok but that's to my point that "downplayer" lingo comes from players used to have 50/50 (or preferring 50/50) winrate duels, which is not how Dota or Mobas work at all. Hopefully other Dota boomer uncs can corroborate this, such as being laned against Viper/Huskar (The dota hero) and automatically losing your lane, because it's Viper/Huskar. It's just the way Dota's been balanced for 20 years

If you watch any guide from pro players, including ones from over a decade ago, they will all say the same thing about splitpushing and map control being the new friend way to climb ranks.

Sincerely, I plead to all new friends, yes there are combat mechanics and hero abilities and skilled maneuvers, but that stuff, really, REALLY does not matter at ranks where no one is managing lanes
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Dannychuds, how are we felling today?
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>>584329604
>deadname tranny
lol
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>>584319203
0.5% current damage is fucking nothing unless you have 100 stacks
specially with the spirit terrorist grandma walking around
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>>584329604
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>first time deadlock
>tried vindicta in brawl
>lost miserably
>tried graves
>built full tank
>most healing, 18k
>won
>looked up guide
>graves is a dps
mfw
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Is that supposed to be a wad of tissue paper or a tampon or something in her nose blocking a nosebleed?
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>>584329682
>spirit nuker is bad because uhhh they can't kill the op spirit tank
damn so true anon
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>>584329227
blame violet voters maybe if you two had come together maybe you could have defeated us
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>>584329693
brawl is really not a good place to gauge heroes
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>>584329604
DANNY BOYYY
DANNY BOYYY
DAAANNNYYY BOOOOOYYYYYY
I GET KNOCKED DOWN
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>>584319203
Just hit her with some cc and then ryona rape her into the pavement
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Seriously? All 3?
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>>584329779
>flies towards you and nukes your HP
your reaction?
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>>584329693

She really is more of a brawler, so going all greens is how you player her.

As long as you are stealing stats and stay alive, you are playing her right. Her role is to take heat off the main damage dealers by distracting and debuffing the enemy team.
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>>584329604
we are going to win violet and harrow fags are too divated to overtake us today we will win skelly bros
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>>584329757
negative win rate and you're a shitter if you couldn't buy 2 1600 items to completely negate her in lane
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>>584329875
>*PING*
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>>584329737
I think that's just a part of the background, not anything connected to her body
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>>584326146
if it was calico doing it you wouldnt think anything of it + they'd have just died when they ulted instead of silver having to chase
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>>584329757
same faggot crying about tankbuster because it's current damage btw
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>>584329973
post rank
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>>584329737
That's obviously the light refracting on her glasses retardbro...
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Counterspell is gonna be gone with the item update
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>baba out for less than a week
>some faggot in here defending her like his life depends on it

your freelo time is up
yoshi is coming
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What is wrong with this character's playerbase? I swear that every Venator that I encounter plays like shit, their aim is absolutely awful most of the time too, so is most of their game sense. What attracts this type of person to this character? It sucks because I actually really like this guy but it's hard to detach myself from the stereotype that I have come to embrace.
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Nobody buys Majestic Leap anymore not even Pocket players... quite a fall from grace.
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>>584330196
Gun man attracts cod babies
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>>584330196
I FUCK the enemy team with him thobeit
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>>584330260
getting the cooldown nuked to be twice as long does that to an item
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>>584312759
I had over 100 hours before release shiv let alone release Victor.
They were broken, but valve actually went and fixed it quicker because of just how broken they were.

These characters arent even close to release vic and shiv, but they are broken, just a slower burn.
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>>584330260
Nah Pocket buys it still he just gets it late and it's only used to leap in for an affliction
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>>584330196
I rape every time my ult is up thoughever
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kill all baba players
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>>584312759
It was Wraith actually with her old ult just keeping you in the air and her having the best escape
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>>584329604
DEADLAST
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>>584330196
ven has no get out of jail for free cards, so m1 fags will try him and feed their ass off because they are too used to nigfernus naruto run and wraith teleport 200m away
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>>584325654
krill is gross but id let mo rape me anytime...
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>>584312759
>>584330417
Bebop stopped being overpowered when that youtuber NotSelfAware made a bomb montage, it went viral on reddit and the discord, and Icefrog nerfed it while buffing Bebop's gun capability. Bebop hasn't been overpowered for 2 years. People hate Bebop because they refused to buy counter items

In standard mode where the mmr isn't focused on, Bomb bebops will eat a lot of damage just get bomb stacks which isn't worth it
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>>584330764
>In standard mode where the mmr isn't focused on, Bomb bebops will eat a lot of damage just get bomb stacks which isn't worth it
lol

lmao

lil bro thinks this unironically
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>>584312271
We are going home tonight soldier bros
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>>584330764
Oh I never considered bebop overpowered.
I see bebop on enemy team, I counterspell
Always have always will
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Good items for Silver?
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>>584330764
You can build whatever the fuck you want with Bebop it literally does not matter as long as you hit your hooks, people are just too retarded to buy Indom or supports don't want to buy a simple Rescue Beam.
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Yea "bebop is op" is a shitter take and always has been.
>bbbbut le stacks and nerfs
I dont care, never been an issue for me.
Hes just boring and annoying to face
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>>584330820
I mean, yes? Standard mode lets players of different ranks rub shoulders. The lower mmr Bebops will slavishly try to get bomb stacks, and this makes their lane movements predictable. They will eat 200-400 damage to get a bomb stack, and not help with the creep wave. Late game, their bombs do nothing against people who itemize. Bebops who rape the server go gun builds or utility ult builds

Hook is his real OP ability where he can buy curse and auto-remove high value heroes late game
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its not even funny how hard apollo counters bebop, the only other hardcounter matchup i can think of is graves with vindicta
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>>584330764
goober goes 9/0 in lane as bebop in e6 lobbies and snowballs the entire game
none of you have actually played against a good bebop and it shows
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>>584330417

Baba and Solomon also have had horrendous winrates on the day of the release. You can't kneejerk this shit.
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>Streamers were claiming test branch was "deadlock 2" and would change the game forever
>reality is the new update just gave the map tf2 graphics and wider lanes
>new heros are all AOE/barrier slop and extremely oppresive
yeah im thiking eos within a year
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>>584331050
calico vs baba is literally unwinnable for calico
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Deadlock's new player problem

https://youtu.be/t61E81PVBK8
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>>584331086
And what does he build? Oh wait... NOT BOMB
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>>584331026
Curse? if you mean hook into curse, you can counterspell that because hooked heroes can act a couple frames earlier than bebop can act when the hook fully retracts. its also how mina/wraith/pocket can always escape getting hooked if they mash parry and then their free escape button
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>>584331172
Buy an ad
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>>584331086
Severe reading comprehension problems. First video pulled up shows an Orange build
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>>584331172
>they should make the tutorial better somewhat
sure
>they should add new gamemodes for every game mechanic!
no that's retarded
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>>584331172
Fuck off shill
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>>584331225
>melee bebop
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What the fuck is Baba
>weird spirit steal with bonus damage on her bullets
>melee-ish mode that makes her even tankier
>clusterfuck everything utility
>slow fucking ult I have yet to see work
>but also she gets insane spirit resistance from spirit power meaning the bitch never dies
Is this a cohesive design I'm just not understanding or is it random bullshit to addon to the spirit steal and res
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So is Calico just dead this patch?
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>>584331307
random bullshit that gets free wins because the game has been spirit slop for ages
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>>584331172
Crazy that any professional (unemployed) yapper can make a random Deadlock video and get hundreds and thousands of views in English but the game is a massive flop in my country for now France
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>>584331307
She's a frontliner that particularly rapes spirit heroes but her numbers are too high right now so she rapes everyone.
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>>584328505
what is any of that
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>>584331225
melee bebop died when city never sleeps released, they removed uppercut > heavy melee combo for no reason whatsoever
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>>584323865
Spam street brawl for awhile until you learn the items.
You can use public builds to get you started, but don't follow them religiously. Eventually you'll know what counter items are available and when you should buy them
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>>584329598
People still complain about lane bullies but win lane lose game is common enough knowledge that people care more about the actual winrate rather than the 1v1 potential of a hero in dota.
I blame hero shooter niggers for getting upset when they die to a 1v1 hero in deadlock.
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>>584331307
She's a "hit your 1 and win because anyone who built spirit on the other team now has negative stats" character. 2 is her waveclear/jungleclear
3 is a glorified grenade, 4 is a gimmick.
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>>584331104
Yes and a character that can steal 170 spirit power and put you into the negatives is op. I care little about Solomon. Hes good in lane but gets jumped late. He can get mid secure yippee but thats about it
Baba requires being decent enough at the game to understand how her stats work and to know how to play midline
Rat is just overstatted and needs to have some cooldowns adjusted.

All this tells me is youre a shitter who cant analyze matches and understand why statistics exist in the way they do.
Remember, doorman has a 42% winrate when he came out, but he was able to 4 shot half the cast with a hybrid gun build because his larger bullets and high single shot damage gave you almost guaranteed headshots and it took 2 months for people to even notice it was broken as shit
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>>584331307
yeah she feels like random bullshit go but it's fun to play unlike someone like mirage so i don't mind
you could argue she's supposed to be some manner of anti-spirit tank, but her default build is hybrid m1 shit so idk what they were going for, either way i like that she feels like she has many cohesive playstyles even if unintended
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>>584331458
win lane lose game isn't nearly as common now that they giga nerfed comeback mechanics
the game is more tempo based than it's been in recent times
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>>584331163
bro baba counters 90% of the roster, you cant really use her for examples because shes getting nerfraped soon
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>>584330929
Ring of repick
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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Let's go
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>>584331631
>cheats
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>>584331565
i guess but it's specially bad for calico, even if you halved all the numbers on baba's abilities i'm pretty sure she still wins it
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>>584327712
>feels good to see no one really votes for her
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If you que Victor in this patch you are trolling btw Baba emasculates you so hard
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abrams saying "let's see what this dick can do" implies he has never used it before and is a virgin
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>>584331916
i q baba then swap to victor :3
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>>584331921
abrams talking a big game to apollo but nutting in under a minute when apollo blows him!
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Standatrd game is just as retarded as Ranked, at first it gives you lemons and no matter what you do you can't win, and then it gives you pro players and you win no matter how badly you play.

They're all the same. Eternus isn't any diffirent from what I've seen on YT. There are retards everywhere and the game knows where to put 'em to keep your 50/50 wr tight.
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>>584331307
Anti-Spirit Mech hunter. Your job is to fuck up heavy spirit users.
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>>584331916
i think that goes for any spirit heavy hero really
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Showing Abrams what his dick can do (to my ass)
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>>584331631
Why no gooner mod for Dynamo?
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>>584332131
its different for victor since he can only really stand in your face. At least mina for example can Iframe the strings or pocket can tank it with briefcase/tp away with ghost , on victor you are losing ALL your spirit.
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>>584332096
the matchmaking simply won't improve until 2 things specifically changes

1. the game is fully open to anyone on steam and the game gets 500k+ people playing all the time minimum to increase the player pool

2. the game's matchmaking algorithm completely changes because it's garbage right now
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>>584331921
Ixians have detachable dicks actually.
He just recently had a new one installed.
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>>584332254
Dynamo has no gooner mods :(
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>>584332281
If the game can't have a good MM algo at 200k another 300k scrubs ain't gonna fix it. They 100% just have to fix the algorithm
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What would YOUR wish to the Patrons be, anons?
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>>584332431
Nullify everyone else's wish
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>>584332431
cancel dynamo's wish, fuck that fat fuck
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>"sniper" vindicta build
>enemy buy spirit res
>your build is now even more worthless
wowza
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victards just retvrn to the gun build
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>>584332431
To bang Dynamo's wife
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no matter if i'm queuing during eu prime hours, na prime hours, eu dead hours or na dead hours it always takes over 10 minutes to find a match
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>>584331172
>Advertising
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>>584332431
To have sex with the Hidden King
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>>584332431
to be dynamo's wife
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>>584332431
To make Dynamo's wish or "wanting his body back" taken literally so it just gives him a pile of meat.
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I hate BRs so fucking much it's insane
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>>584332431
Every woman above 16 immediately gets tits bigger than her head.
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>>584332431
>MY WISH IS I DON'T WANT ANY OF THESE BOOSTED CARRIED ANIMALS TO HAVE THEIR WISH GRANTED
That's right.
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>>584322924
the ring is cringe thoughbeit
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>>584332574
Lol wtf is this shit, bullet and spirit lifesteal?
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>>584332431
To thank me for summoning them.
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>>584332431
to do the ritual again I had fun :D
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>>584332873
they combine together to make leech dumbass
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>>584332873
this is more of a hybrid victor
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>>584332254
Dynamo is the owner of the harem. All the other girls bounce on his BBC(Big Blackhole Cock)
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>>584332873
dude make your own gun build public builds are ass
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>>584322924
Palette skin for Violet when
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>>584332431
<<->#(
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>>584332920
Ok yeah now I see the vision, gives green spike too. I just figure you'd want to rush berserker since the item is godlike on him.
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ALL builds are ass, buy what you need for the situation you are in
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>>584333148
berserker is right after you get green spike, you need to survive to get berserker stacks
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I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE, RIGHT??
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>>584332096
Its described by the patrons that their ability allows them to give the ritualist a wish based on their inner desire also.
Dynamos wording would not be directly affected. But he would most likely be old in his new form so he can grow old with his wife, because rhat is his inner desire.
The patrons would not monkeys paw him, because to them this wish is trivial in comparison to say, seven wanting Godhood
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>>584332353
how could you miss THE goon mod
https://gamebanana.com/mods/691256
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>>584333209
The godhood for seven might just be giving him the bare minimum cultivation magic energy to ascend and letting him handle the rest
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>>584331403
game only has 3 non spirit, haze rat king and ventaor. out of 40 chars. which is quite sad
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Did a dev ever reply to someone's forum post here, in the private dev-read only section? so not public threads
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>>584322924
So many cool ring niggas and you choose the most boring one.
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>>584331172
These are the same kinda retards that ruined fighting games by wanting an easy mode for everything.
And then when the developers cave and make the game mass appealing(aka bad) they will still not be able to hang with players that have a 90+IQ.

At some point you just have to look tards like this guy in the eyes and tell him to git gud.
No amount of game tweaks or tutorials will give people that don't actually wanna learn a chance at games like this.
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>>584332281

The algo is literally just dota2:s algo and the devs pretend to change it on the regular so they can collect more evidence on how the average player delude themselves into thinking that it is the algo:s fault they lose.

Yoshi will publish a paper on this a year after the public release.
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>>584332431
Silver buffs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI8_b6nOVrM
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>>584317215
skeletons are cool
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>be silver
>jump in and shotgun blasts everyone 360 no scope
>almost dying
>almost transforming
>dies
>KYAAAA!!
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>>584332431
rem as my personal onahole
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>>584317215
>what makes a man vote rat king?
he's cool, rats are cool and heavily on0theme with NY
>what makes a man vote baba?
knows about baba yaga and fighting grannies is funny
>what makes a man vote solomon?
an enjoyment of chess theming and funny black magic guy
>what makes a man vote violet?
being a tasteless gooner
>what makes a man vote danny?
skeleton with jetpack? cool, also hopes he's soldier tf2
>what makes a man vote harrow?
being a refined gooner
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>>584333209
>because rhat is his inner desire.
imagine asking the patron for 1 billion dollars and getting all the female characters as your sexslaves instead
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Harrowfags, how does it feel that WE are going to win the vote in a couple of hours?
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Deadlock devs will never add my GOOD original character into Deadlock... it's over bros...
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>>584334073
i made a whole custom hero suggestion on the forums and yoshi didn't even look at it, it's over...
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>>584334060
>>584328629
it won't happen, but my body is ready, just in case
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MVP with Silver feels so goodman and they where stacked with all new units
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>>584327954
I dont actually get why but yeah, girls are cutest (and hottest) when they are almost retarded.
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>>584333716
The death screams in this game are great
I still miss Seven's old one
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Finna kill all you dannyniggers if she wins
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>>584334073
>keep seeing new heroes that have abilities vaguely resembling ones I suggested
>sort of
>if you squint maybe
I'm onto Yoshi. I know he's watching me. I KNOW IT.
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Anyone else feel extremely bittersweat about these character vote updates?

They're extremely fun and comfy, but once the game is "officially out" they'll dry up, we'll probably only get 1-2 new characters a year at most, just like Dota 2. Less and less official content, just a stagnant albiet well polished and active game.
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>>584334595
all new units?
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>>584335034
Dota 2 still got several a year but it really depends on if the devs give a shit. Valve do what Valve do. I imagine at some point balancing Dota and adding to it felt like a massive chore
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Had to beg my team to shoot the objective since some were pushing lanes for some reason at 40 minutes in the game and the enemy was about to respawn.
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>>584335215
it was easier in dota because a lot of heroes they were adding already existed in the wc3 map, so no gameplay design was necessary (until they started reworking shit, but that didn't happen until years down the line)
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cant win in shitlow pubs unless im playing some scaling m1gger slop like wraith because every game is 1 hour long
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>>584335034
For me, it's when they drop the RoR3 PVE mode and all the attention and love goes there while this portion is left to rot because they can't turn it into a casino like CSGO
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another mute worthless faggot solomon with 10 deaths doing absolutely nothing the entire game
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Dannybros what's our status??!?
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>>584335483
#BlackExcellence
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I'M GONNA RATT
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>>584335564
Mogged by Harrow in a surprise turnover status.
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We will all be having sex with Nurse Harrow today later when she releases. Hope you are all ready.
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>>584335564
deadlast
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>>584335564
Crashing this game in t-minus 6 hours 38 minutes
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yippie
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>>584312576
You're completely retarded just like the devs of this game. If they continue to release utterly broken bullshit like Shiv, Celeste, Baba, and Rat King, you need to have a draft mode or else you just lose before the game even starts.
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>>584335564
Getting knocked down, but getting up again
They're never gonna keep us down
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>>584335034
It's fun but dislike the
>character gets added
>if you don't have it on your team you lose
>wait for nerf
>repeat next week
Release day Drifter and Victor were absolute cancer
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If Violet doesn't win, then I blame the ruskis and chinks
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>>584335758
>Mina
>anime sissy
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>>584335808
violet is unironically coming in last lmao
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>>584335808
but the chinks are voting for her?
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When do I max ult on Kelvin?
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>>584335910
Exactly, if she doesn't win then they didn't vote hard enough
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>>584335808
Ruskies and chinks have good taste for once? Can't believe it.
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I haven't played this game but i saw Mina sex so now i'm interested.
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the Belltower needs to have a veil at the very top of the shaft that you cant see down from, and also cant hear if someone is coming up the rope
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>>584336009
based
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>>584336009
welcome
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>>584336009
NEED TO BREED
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New 'bull just dropped
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>>584335738
Ever since I saw the post about Britbong Danny it fucks me up that we're going to end up with some retarded stuntman promoter instead of a combat pilot type of character
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>>584336223
I want to break her horn
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>>584336223
Thanks for the heads up
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When I report other people for saying things like "retard" and "nigger" they never get combanned. I say "what the fuck are you idiots even doing?" one time, insta-banned. Retarded game with a retarded community.
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>>584335460
I can't imagine that ever happening when the entire game is designed around PvP from the ground up but if it did I would be ecstatic.

And they absolutely CAN make Deadlock a casino this is Valve we're talking about. They made TF2 hat city when it's a fucking FIRST PERSON game. You know this game will be out the ass with cosmetics for every character, hideout, unique taunts, little magical green spirit pets that follow you on the zipline and into lane, everything. You KNOW they will and the goyium and I will eat it up.
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>>584335862
I play with a Lovense that goes off when I take damage, get hit with cc, or die
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>>584336009
This guy gets it
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>>584336341
I dont believe you
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>>584336341
>Guy in a 5-man says "retard"
>You get mad and report
>One report doesn't do anything
>You get on comms with your squeaky vocal-fried zoomzoom fagccent to mumble some shit about "whumuh fuh you idiotsvendoin"
>People get annoyed and report you
>You get niggered
Thank you Yoshi!
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I don't understand counterspell I hit the parry button when they use a spell?
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Returned after 6 months and admittedly I've only been playing Street Brawl today, but did Billy get nerfed or something? I feel like I'm fucking paper and no one takes damage
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>>584336542
what part do you not get?
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>>584336341
>When I report other people for saying things like "retard" and "nigger" they never get combanned.
BASED VALVE
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>>584336223
I don't get the appeal of futa
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>>584336542
you do it before it impacts you, also usable while standing in AOE slop like fire
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>>584336192
Her wish? For human wombs to be able to get inseminated by doggy cum.
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>>584336223
Can this guy draw some nonfuta please?
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>>584336542
if you have counterspell then whenever you press parry you get a spellshield
if it blocks anything it goes on cooldown
the cooldowns between the parry and the counterspell are separate
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>>584336463
>projecting
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>>584336703
Ohh never seen that in game neat
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>>584321280
>Walking away from AoE slop that almost always has a massive movement slow or stun attached combined with them having mystic slow/slowing hex

not how it works at all
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>>584336542
You use it as it's about to hit you or when you expect them to use it if it's not or only barely reactable. You can go into the sandbox and set a bot to use an ability to practice the counterspell timings.
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>>584336682
NTA but it's like normal sex but instead of having to avoid looking at a dude you're looking at two hot chicks and they probably have an impossibly oversized dick
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>>584336787
I project my boogers onto your face, wimp
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>>584336341
The difference is those dudes were carrying, and probably funny, and you said that when you went 0-15
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>>584336779
"afrobull -futanari" search on r34 yields me 70+ pages worth of posts
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so violet's definitely next right
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>>584331390
Ngl, I hate French players. They're as toxic and retarded as Russians but somehow even worse at the game and even worse at speaking English

I don't hate French people though, rock on man
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>>584336223
The faggot has gone so deep down the futa rabbit hole he like drawing dicks more than chicks now.
Guy made one of the best Zelda comics and he's reduced himself to this.
Almost happy that AI-jeets have coopted his style so it doesn't go to waste.
Same shit happened with Fugtrup, futafaggotry always leads to homosexuality and then inevitably, black sissification.
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>>584336542
this game has a parry button?
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>>584336974
reminds me of how that dark souls youtuber onlyafro ended up becoming a twitter gooner in vrchat/ffxiv
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>>584336867
if your actual issue is the CC is used alongside the aoeslop there's a counter item for it
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>>584336952
I mean Deadlock nonfuta. I want to see him draw Pocket fucking Geist or Harrow or something.
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>Why yes, let's give haze a free cleanse
Suck my fucking cock, Yoshi
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>>584336956
Unlikely, it's probably going to be Danny with a snowball's chance of a Harrow upset.
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deadlock more like deadcock
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>>584337109
*buys rapid recharge*
4 dispels :)
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>>584336974
fugtrup has been doing futa for well over a decade now, it's been his thing even back in the crusty low quality sfm days
>>584337097
>I want to see ... Pocket fucking
ngmi
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>>584337097
Faggot
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>>584337186
Well, since Haze is a m1gger, at least you're sacrificing a slot to buy a spirit item that gives you no benefit, just like if Venator wanted to spam grenades and tra-
>Spirit scaling on her 3 for some reason
YOSHINIGGERRRRRRRR
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>>584337097
Pocket is transthoubeit, he does not have a penis
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>>584336974
I find funny how his artstyle is easy as fuck to copy with AI and it became one of the cornerstones of stolen AI slop.
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>>584332431
All the money in the world
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>>584337206
>>584337250
>>584337287
Sorry, getting fucked by Geist and harrow amazon press style + small penis + femdom + reverse rape
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>>584337109
>Gun characters a weak to AoE slop
>Yoshi keeps adding AoE slop to the game
>Gun characters HAVE to shit out infinite dmg and have 3000 get out of jail free cards to keep up
>The rest of the cast have to suffer with both AoE slop and m1gger dmg because Yoshi is retarded
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Violet my beloved
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Which botmakies buy Dispel? Which botmakies save for Unstoppable?
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>>584337281
based retard
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>>584337379
Even faggoter because you're self-inserting more than normal
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>>584336223
You get a treat for being a good nonny
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>>584337402
she's the best looking character in the entire game idk why people refuse to vote for her
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I want to date Violet
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Harrow sisters, how are we feeling today?
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What is going to be your favorite Violet dialog lines when she drops? I hope she gets flirty with Paige :3
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>>584337494
I simply do not like women in games and there's enough as is.
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>>584337402
And yes before you ask I am an autistic white man.
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>>584337549
fuck off yuritard, she's made for men
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>>584337402
>Soulless chinksect eyes of inscrutably Oriental clannishness, ethnic in-group preference, and casual cruelty to animals
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>>584337541
More confident then I have any right to be desu.
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>>584337640
fuck off autist
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>>584329875
imagine my fucking glee if he was a huskar port holy fuck
we even have the armlet toggling
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The snowball meta is miserable, does anyone like losing at minute 8?
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>>584337629
*rem
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>>584337831
dont worry, yoshi will add a new comeback mechanic that will make your lost game even more lost
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>>584337640
If Violet had lines being racist to Yamato and Mina, and had lines confused why people don't like her juicing pitbulls to user their blood as ink she'd unironically jump to my favorite character in this game
>Well... it's already dead... would be a waste to not eat the meat no?
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>>584337757
>we even have the armlet toggling
not really since unlike armlet blood tribute does not give you a burst of hp that you can use to dance around being almost dead
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>>584330196
A large majority of the player base for this character do not understand how much his ult does and will hold it for when they are basically already dead. And then you look at their Ira Domini damage at the end and somehow it's less than like, grenade. That and they can't combo for shit. He's too honest for brainlets, as crazy as that is to say.
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Thoughts on Golden Goose Egg 1st item on supports?
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>>584312271
Random little bit of trivia I discovered: even though Colossus and Unstoppable are both self-buff item actives, their indicators behave differently

Colossus starts off with a full circle that "drains" away clockwise until the white line disappears

Unstoppable is the opposite, it starts with just the icon and the white line progresses counterclockwise around the circle as its duration ticks down

No idea why the fuck Yoshinigger decided on this
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>>584336974
Any examples?
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>>584337640
Very sex indeed
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>>584338012
I've been running Golden Goose Egg -> Trophy Collector -> everything else on Rem in Ascendant 2
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>>584338012
In lane meta, why would you gimp your support's ability to stat check the shit out of people with their overtuned guns? You'll snowball harder winning your lane then getting egg.
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>>584337951
ehhh good point
I gotta take what I can get though
fuck the aoe disarm slop nudota gave him though that shit can stay in the bin
>>584338074
Is this not because of how they're justified? Is it only for unstoppable? Like if you had spellslinger active it wouldn't be counterclock on the right
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>1 week ago
>impeccable aim and flawless game sense
>fast forward to now
>feel like i can't do shit and play like garbage
bros... wtf happened...
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>>584338183
>lane meta
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deadass despite niggas that pick items for meta instead of for what they want to build
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>>584338183
>In lane meta
nigga what
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>>584338294
I feel like I have aged 30 years after dropping the game for half a year and needing to learn the new map. Laning is still fine but the amount of times I break my own ankles pathing around is nightmarish.
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>>584338290
>Is this not because of how they're justified?
Wtf does this even mean, how are items "justified"??
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>>584338407
>>584338310
Isn't everyone bitching that comeback is dead, and it's more important then ever to snowball early and hard as possible?
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I played Dota 2 long ago, should I play this? I'm not interested in Overwatch / Marvel Rivals but I'm willing to give this one a try because Valve & IceFrog.
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>55% winrate rat king with a bullshit ult?
>NEEEEEEEERRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFF
>still 55% winrate rat king even after the nerfs

>60% winrate baba with a bullshit 1, bullshit 2, bullshit 3 and bullshit 4?
>lol lmao enjoy your game bruh
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>>584338527
left or right justified
or maybe it's justified in icefraud's eyes... i'm simply too vague...
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>>584338594
>60% winrate baba with a bullshit 1, bullshit 2, bullshit 3 and bullshit 4?
Not getting nerfed because streamers said she's bad
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>>584338594
Honest heroes like rat king are not allowed to be op.
Dishonest heroes like baba are allowed to be op.
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>>584338684
I think the patron has no real reason not to grant the wish, the ritual will probably just cause something worse
It really is just a Manhattan Grail War but without the Servants. The only thing we're missing really is someone who literally knows exactly what will happen at the end. Like an Arc Warden or something.
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>>584338684
>Gets wish with no downsides
Yeah fucking right.
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Warden is not getting out of anything alive
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>>584338684
Wtf is everyone's wishes, are they all listed out somewhere?
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>>584336957
>I don't hate French people though
give it time anon
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Yeah remove this groid Solomon from the game.
Shits up the screen with awful ambiguous clutter and isn't even fun to play
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>>584322772
>>584322776
just five days ago these two retards were calling her the weakest hero in the game...
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>>584323989
limbus is shit
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>parry Baba
>she can still just instant melee you right after or go for another heavy putting you in a fucking 50/50 mixup like it's Street Fighter
I mean this with conviction: what is this fucking shit
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>>584338859
You have to infer what they are from their lines and lore. A lot of them aren't fully fleshed out (cough solomon cough), though
>The Sinclairs want to get away from each other and move on to the afterlife
>Silver wants to unfuck her life, this will probably take the form of her asking for a lot of money because she's retarded
>Celeste wants to help her idiot friend Lenny because he sold his soul or whatever
>Viscous wants someone to butcher the Adversary for him
With heroes like Victor, it's unclear exactly what he's going to ask for, and the boon Abrams asked for in the VN indicates that the Patrons actually will honestly follow through with whatever bargain you strike with them. They'll just be extremely precise about doing so (Abrams asked one specific question, that question was answered succinctly and correctly, and when he went to ask another one the Patron told him to fuck off)
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>>584339141
she needs it
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>>584326456
>>584324251

There's nothing okay about transexuals demanding you keep in glitches so they can speedrun.
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>>584338684
It probably depends on the patron. Hidden King seems like the kind of guy you think will screw you but instead just gives you what you want if it doesn't ruin his plans. The bitch probably just goes "haha lol thanks for the help now you're a frog"
Billy also has a proper wish and it sounds like a big one, given one of his more recent voice lines about everyone having to wait until he wins before they hear his, despite otherwise being so vocal
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These 3 new heroes have awful readability
All of them need their ability visuals and audio tuned so you can see shit during team fights
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>>584338816
Patron needs to fully grant some % of wishes if he wants to recruit new cultists
"Join the hidden king! Infernos joined the hidden king and he saved his bar! Don't you want a wish granted?"
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Why is Baby literally just a better melee hero than Billy despite it being his one thing
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>>584325862
5, the new map makes her busted since you can barely chase her with all the shit all over the place, and she completely dominates the middle lane since it has no cover besides the bridge now.
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>>584339221
Billy is gonna wish to be 1 species again.
100% goat
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Shiv counters?
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>>584338684
I'm not that deeply read up on the lore, but isn't the whole point of the Patrons is that they explicitly don't fuck over people's wishes and the actual danger comes from what they might do when they fully materialized?
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I wonder which heroes would end up winning the ritual and getting their wish granted canonically
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>>584339469
antiheal
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>>584328972
This needs to be removed immediately. honestly just remove Baba entirely, her voice acting is mediocre too
>>584329067
>This guy thinks Victor and Celeste aren't two of the most braindead and broken characters in the game
>posts that shitty image too
yeah this guy is retarded, die asap
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>>584339494
iirc the patrons won't actively fuck you over but if you're not good at asking for what you want then they might do something you didn't mean to, or fulfill the wish but in a retarded half-assed way that's just good enough to count for them
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>>584339516
assuming they haven't scrapped the VN thing, Geist and Abrams get their wishes.
Geist gets exactly what she wants wheras they cucked Abrams for not being explicit enough with his wish
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>>584338583
It's pretty much Dota 3 but with source movement and aiming, might as well give it a try if you don't mind getting hooked on another moba.
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Bullet resistance> metal skin. But you aren't ready for that conversation
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>>584339405
>Why is every new hero overtuned
I DON'T KNOW ANON. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING THROUGH YOSHI'S HEAD WITH THIS UPDATE.
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>deadlast danny won the discord poll
>harrow 2nd by half of the %
>violet 3rd
HARROWBROS WE FUCKING WON. THESE DISCORDTROONS DO NOT PLAY THE GAME
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>>>584339494
Nobody knows
There are multiple lines of dialogue where the characters wonder if the patrons are lying or if they're gonna monkey's paw everyone
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>>584339418
>you can barely chase her
スキル問題
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>>584339743
It depends.

If Haze waporizes you in a second - metal skin is better.
If there's a lot of gun damage during team fights - resist
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>>584330196
He's not overpowered so people feed on him, you don't have a button you can press to just leave any engagement like Haze, Infernus, Wraith, Ivy, etc.
He doesn't have free spirit damage like Haze, Infernus, and Wraith, his gun is actually not that great because it has horrendous accuracy (unlike Haze Infernus and Wraith who basically have perfect accuracy) and the magazine/fire rate is bad. Only the velocity is good.

Also his shotgun blast is buggy as fuck and the traps are genuinely not useful at all, he could have had a broken on-hit spirit or pure damage passive (Like Haze, Infernus, and Wraith) but they instead gave him traps that get deleted if you look at them funny.
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>>584339798
the only troon pick was Rat king thoughever.
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>>584328536
>Apollo
>falling off
If he's falling off it's because you're somehow too retarded to use his over stuffed kit to get a lead early
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Scrap Grenade is a fucked up ability
It's the same tint as the fucking map so you can't even tell where it is from the ringing unless it's right in front of you
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Think a game is going to be close a few minutes later they are 50k souls ahead
fun
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>>584339892
Rat King is the anti troon pick
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>>584337494
It's people like you that pick a human race in a fantasy MMO
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>>584339781
>Why is every new hero overtuned
Because if they weren't, nobody would play them, and everyone would complain about the new heroes being irrelevant
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what does it mean if my favorite characters to play are paradox, lady geist, celeste...
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So why won't they just add Ghost Scepter and Ethereal into the game? What, are they afraid of getting another water nigger?
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>>584340010
put on the programmer socks
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Yoshi play with my pussy
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>>584337038
>lasts 5 seconds
>most aoe slop lasts for way longer than that
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>>584339516
>The one man army heroes like Drifter and Seven definitely get theirs even if the villains shouldn't win, unless Plot happens and they lose for dumbass reasons
>Grey Talon seems like he'd win but every story ever written has the badass old guy die to influence someone else (Shiv), so Shiv probably wins.
>Billy seems like comedic relief until you realize he's fighting vampires and gods with just a bat and a cosmetic goat head, so he wins through sheer Metal Bat-tier "I don't give a fuck" willpower
>The women all fail except maybe Silver and Geist
>Abrams is the Main Character so he gets his
>Lash and Bebop fuck each other over but Bebop still probably wins because it's for Shelly's sake, or maybe he loses but someone like Solomon swaps this wish to help him out of pity when he fails.
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>>584340030
It's called ethereal shift. It already exists
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>>584329779
BUT I GET UP AGAIN
YOU NEVER GONNA KEEP ME DOWN
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>>584340104
No, not really, that's more like a Euls.
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>>584340030
Morphling was such a bad and annoying design, I hope we never get anything like him
>Oh you ganked me? I gain 5000 hp in one second
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>>584340082
you use it to walk away...
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Why can pocket just get majestic leap so now its impossible to kill him or punish him for ratting/split pushing?
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>>584340085
>Lash and Bebop fuck each other over but Bebop still probably wins because it's for Shelly's sake
>Not going with the running theory they both would be on opposite teams and both will wish for Shelly to be cured, in Lash's case purely so he can hold it over Bebop's head forever.
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>>584337868
They're soulmates
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You reckon seraphim wings will be incorporated into Danny's jetpack ability as a passive?
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>>584331050
Victor vs Venator is pretty one sided too
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>>584337640
>ethnic in-group preference
if you don't have this you literally have a mental disorder btw
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>>584340225
Anon... we have at most a week until Violet...
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>>584340446
Lash is rent free in Bebop's head but Bebop is just another guy who hates Lash in his own. I highly doubt a narcissist is going to use his wish for someone else
Besides if they're opposite sides, Bebop dies. Lash doesn't get to hold it over anyone. If he really wants to do the "guess what, I won" gloating, he can just go give Shelly some of his money after it's over instead of wasting the wish on her
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This new icon for Enduring Speed sucks.
Did Valve mess up and accidentally import a WIP icon?
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Giving Wraith one last chance do I focus objective only? or join the retarded team fights at 15 minutes in?
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>>584336341
Deserved for reporting anything that isn't smurfing or sandbagging
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I FUCKING HATE LIVING IN EUROPE

SOMEBODY FUCKING NUKE ALL SLAVS TO DEATH
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>>584340792
You only team fight past 25 minutes other than that you are power farming
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>>584338684
why is the jezebel's shutting down anyway everyone wants to get in there including geist and mina they must have some sway
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>>584340908
What's the consensus on rifts is it a must to waste my time and die trying to capture that shit early on?
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>>584340009
if they voted for the fucking hero it's because they wanted to play it not hoping it's overtuned
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>>584340792
>Joining retarded team fights
>15 minutes in
Why would you ever join a retarded teamfight before respawn timers are long enough to secure midboss? Your retard team is giving you a golden opportunity to take walkers, and sometimes even base, when they brawl like spastics.
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>>584340991
Health code violations
Unironically
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>>584340792
no, you sidelane and vacuum in all the jungle farm
get walkers while your team is dying on rift
only join your team on mid or if you are pushing patron
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>>584340901
bro your cs2 serverpicker?
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>>584319203
>sustain nerfed
>burst nerfed
>aoe nuke ultimate nerfed
they nerfed everything you mentioned in your post aside from sanguine retreat and it’s so op that it’s carrying her entire kit
pocket is still cancer to play against lategame but I don’t mind him in lane that much so it’s fine
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>>584340731
spam that it sucks in the forums and social media, they will change it
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>>584341081
Don't let the rift minions take walker for free
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>>584337831
that is literally how mobas work, it is how they've always worked, it is the design philosophy of the genre
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>>584340085
>Bebop loses but Lash uses his wish to cure Ms Shelly's gay nigger aids anyway to prove that he is better than Bebop once and for all

kino? I think so

>>584340314
Yeah and then unstoppable is down for a minute and they have 3 more charges of their AoE slop drop ability.
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>>584337831
People cry and shit their pants if there's a game past 10 minutes that isn't just the winning team doing the motions to complete
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>>584341161
The violation? Employing an I*ian.
His wish? To become human (and white).
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>>584338684
wraith also asks for money but she goes straight into monkey paw tier because she thinks that is a smart move and tries to hide her real motive from the patrons
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Okay I watched like 3 hours of character interactions on youtube and gave in. Who is the most annoying character to fight?
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Any decent Yamato public builds?
Feel like her right click does nothing should be doing heavy meele more often?
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>>584341652
Currently? Baba and Victor for being obnoxiously easy to play and impossible to kill, or Shiv and Celeste for being obnoxiously easy to play and impossible to kill.
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>>584341652
anyone with a stun, they're all equally bad
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>>584341161
wiki says it's basically not having a LICENSE for gambling souls
... get one?

must be old lore because of how much souls and spirits are thrown around, fairfax has them laying around in abandoned boxes and sewer creatures have a bunch of them
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>>584341702
you can copy average's or lystic's builds
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>>584341652
Solomon, Baba, Rat King, and Celeste
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>>584341652
Currently? Baba. Just better than everyone at everything
When she's gutted, it's back to Mina or Doorman or some shit. Not always the strongest but always annoying cancerfaggots
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>>584339141
her light melee does zero damage though
>>584339405
billy is built for light melee not heavy

Baba upplayers getting lazy
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>>584336682
I develop the fetish after watching "censored" futanari porn on Youtube back then
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>>584341652
pocket, baba, doorman
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>>584341652
>Who is the most annoying character to fight?
Lash. Ignore the other comments
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>>584341652
Low skill doorman and viscous just does boring shit like damage enemies
High skill doorman and viscous exist only to annoy people by wasting enemies time
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>>584341652
Lash if you know how to play him
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>>584341781
Literally who cares? She runs faster than Billy even if you account for him only swinging lights while she has to jump around
On Billy you're meant to use heavy melees to bait parries or you can't light at all. Meanwhile Baba just does giant aoe stunning heaviest with impunity
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I'm losing my fucking mind. Didn't Hesy or someone tweet Violet's tiger and crane? I could've sworn I saw them because I remember thinking, "It's weird they mentioned the tiger but not the crane." But now when I look for it, I just find Hesy's recreation of them. Why did he even need to recreate them? I couldn't find anything here either. All I found was an anon randomly saying "so she has a crane too" with no source. Hesy also recreated her brushes but I saw a picture of those before, too. Did something happen?
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>return fire no longer gives bullet resist
What? The item was already trash in the first place.
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i used to thought rat king was cancer to play against now i know better i want valve to shoot baba in the back of her had in a dark alley
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>>584342003
no way there's a "hey don't say that" guy in the wild
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>>584341130
you released them over tuned and then gradually nerf what's too strong to get them in a good state. this is the third hero drop and you're acting like this is some new thing
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>>584341652
For me? It's Apollo. the 3 new ones we have are annoying as shit in their own ways too.
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>>584341652
Solomon by far, he will get nerf soon or later.
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>>584341652
Doorman, viscous, Ivy, Apollo, infernus, wraith, Calico, Baba, Pocket, rem. If they know how to abuse their character.
>>584342003
I say this all the time on brawl
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>>584342090
It gives 10% bullet res
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>>584342085
I have no idea what you're talking about so when you open posts like this with "I'm losing my mind" I'm inclined to agree and plead you to find help
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>>584342092
yeah you could always try to pick him before rift to force his ult or kill him
baba is just completely overtuned, imagine dynamo with an ult for every skill
she gets infinite value even if she's 0/10 in lane, and now curse doesn't cancel her ult it just starts it, and she only needs one hit to turn you into a pigeon it's so fucking stupid
same game pocket has a -15% spirit resist debuff that's affected by diminishing returns
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>>584339638
>>584339802
I assumed that this was the reason why they're so actively sought after, cause in the world of Deadlock Deals with the Devil are clearly understood quite literally down to science (Dynamo's interaction with Venator)
Just imagine if the Patrons aren't being dumb or obtuse at all, they completely understand the person's wish and they grant it in a way the person would want only to go
>Alright, I'm gonna go turn New York into a mass of glass skyscrapers/ one huge favela now, have fun
Immediately after.
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HUH SINCE WHEN WALKERS HEAL BACK HEALTH??
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Team fighting since 15 minutes 20k souls difference and people started quitting at 20 minutes cool
i just dont have time to farm if people are just throwing and they have rejuv now
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>>584317470
The weird dichotomy of being Rat King as a tank with bravado but he doesn't really do too much damage when in your face



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