We have a Sotoan Megafloat to burn EditionThread Theme: https://youtu.be/8vyw5_N7amkPrevious Mission: >>584272264>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>Twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guidehttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
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>>584319880>su27Flanker-B, it's been too long
gibe F-111gibe EF-111A
jal tejas when?
I hate jammers in pvp
FILUR LAGUR
MY MYAT WATERLOONAPOLEON DID SURRENDER
DIE, YOU S.O.B!
I want to play through an AC story where stuff gets genuinely dark and horrible and things are constantly falling apart and getting worselike the kind of story that would have actually had the ISEV collapse, let its debris fall across an entire country, forced the refugees to flee (if they even survived), and forced everyone to struggle without power instead of going "never mind, it's fine"let old alliances break down and let countries form insane new ones and fight against their old side because they're so desperatelet the player feel like a small light constantly struggling to hold back the darknessgive us a story where, even though you find some measure of success and catharsis by the end, you don't magically pull everything off at the last moment like an anime character, you aren't celebrated as the hero who singlehandedly saved a country, and you and all your friends don't necessarily get to live happily ever afterI want to lose people along the wayI want the few people whom we do manage to save to feel precious to us because of how rare they are and how hard it wasI want to be worried about whether they'll make it or notI want it to hurt by the end and to have characters asking if it was really all worth itso many times throughout the story, it felt like AC8 came really close to going in this direction, but refused to cross the line enough "friendship always triumphs over the bad guys"gimme something dark next game
>>584321209I need someone to draw the Triumphant as a clueless shipgirl that really like Lager beer
>>584321251World needs more hope and love.
>>584321123As all the Sotoans have left.
>>584321317So was it belkan?
>>584321251It's not friendship, it's hopePost-4 AC has always been hopecore, doomfags need not be welcomed here
>>584321251Project Wingman 2
>>584321383The AI is probably the same as ZoE
>>584321251Ace Combat is a Loved and Hopepilled franchise, sorry>I want to play through an AC story where stuff gets genuinely dark and horrible and things are constantly falling apart and getting worseIt's called project wingman. Like, no-one wins in that story
>>584321463
FILUR LAGER
>>584321251Your AC3?Also, >>584321407 is right.
Every single one of my last 10 Emergency Sorties have failed because every other player decides to farm points at the final TGT
>>584321407Except for Zero. I like that game cus doesn't have its head up its own ass with its peace message.
>>584321627Which Ace Combat protag would Ryan Gosling star as?Cipher, Mobius 1, Trigger, Blaze?
Big things are happening.
>>584321627Bro... your squadron? Share your ems with other buddies.
I wonder how many of these thing can even be seen normally and somehow Tekken and Code Vein 2 is canon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KawtYuE30yA
>>584321218please let me play the ugliest dorito PAplease PA it would be so funny to get MVP with this chunky goober
>>584321740None, he'd be Pixy
>>584321064Since that thread is dying, I'll ask here.Why do we need seperate variants for planes instead of just tuning a basic model to fit the role?And why can't I buy missiles and bombs separately? When are they gonna switch up the aircraft tree?
>Playing AC0 again after countless years>Trying to go for a mercenary playthrough killing absolutely everything I can come across leaving no enemy to flee,gunning down all yellow targets that present themselves>Instead I am getting knight statusAm I misremembering this game or is this port broken somewhere?
>>584321784>THE BELKAN WAR 3Woah.
>>584321884Probably cause they don't have enough planes to do an AC5 style roster.
>>584321602I genuinely can't stop listening to it speak. It's enthralling. https://youtu.be/Sr_607pOH8c
>>584322000Okay, Nemo.
>>584321891Worked for me
>>584321884Because they're different planes that share the same core platform. It's like how the Golf and the Skoda Octavia share the same chassis but are obviously different cars.
>>584321891You must be fucking up somewhere because I played just yesterday and got Merc by gunning down all yellow targets. If you are too late and let a yellow marked plane escape it bumps you towards knight
>>584322023It's almost the perfect point between creepy detached robot and creepy attempting to be human robot. I love it. I hope planes and boats and superweapons all start talking like this in AC9.
>>584321891No, you remember right. You might not be showing down enough regular and yellow targets. Although there is a mission or two where there are none.
>>584321815Code Vein appears to be a movie or something, otherwise Strangereal really handled the Aragami way better than regular earth did.
so did anything change after the maintenance?
>>584321407>hopecore>>584321463>Hopepilledif Ace Combat protagonists always set everything right in the end with minimal losses, minimal sacrifice, minimal complicating factors, etc., then the stakes of the series are going to get eroded, and nobody will believe that there's actually any tension anymoreand for games especially, I feel like players have to have that tension and uncertainty, so that they feel that their efforts actually meant something (as opposed to the eventual victory feeling pre-ordained, which undercuts the feeling of player agency (even though, yes, it's a linear story game that only ends up one way, you still have to preserve the illusion for players))it's fine to have a happy endingI just don't want to be able to assume from the outset that a happy ending is guaranteedfor the sake of the franchise overall, and so that the games whose endings are happier actually feel earned, I think that we should have a few darker games thrown in from time to timethat's my pointI don't want stuff to be miserable for misery's sake, that's not what I'm saying
>>584322193I'm somehow getting even more shitters that bomb Emergency Sorties, but I think that's unrelated
>>584321884>Why do we need seperate variants for planes instead of just tuning a basic model to fit the role?This is actually how I'd do it in my own Ace-like game. The modification/upgrade system would basically be kitbashing variants together to make your own OC Donut Steel variants. CATOBAR Canardless flanker? Single seat F-15EX with STOL/MTD engines? F-2A with the DSI inlet and X-62 TVC nozzle? The choice and consequences are yours.
>>584322193No, we all forgot this is a Japanese game, so unless they say "there is a patch" there is no patch.
>>584322000MEKLUR CITY LAGER
>>584322285>>584322257word to the wiseremember pearl harbor
>>584321784so they're doing all this shit for zero but online is currently broken? what a waste
I wish they'd remake Mt Nevera mission from X in a modern game. Same snow mountain range location, same music, same "you, all alone, not even the radio to keep you company" vibes. It's one of my favorite missions in the whole series
>>584322332I think they meant to have it be a separate thing from the get-go but couldn't sort licenses out or something. At least, it will get out of the way so they can focus on tweaking the multiplayer.
>>584322326Most of you aren't even old enough to remember 9/11 fuck you mean "remember pearl harbor"
>>584322506>Most of you aren't even old enough to remember 9/11yes we areliterally every day someone goes "why does everyone here love Kate, oh I know it's because you're all in your 30s"
>>584322506Remember the Alamo
Ngl once you get past the dogshit progression and grind up co-op warfare is actually pretty fun. I've been getting exclusively diff 3 and most players are pretty competent and willing to stick to a teamcomp and a general gameplan.
i knew that fat fuck would make it big
>>584321251>>584322230I agree with you anon.It doesn't need to be a depressing, bleak "everything's fucked and that's that" story, but a little more darkness to contrast with the light at the end would be a good thing. Make things seem really hopeless in the middle of the story so the triumph at the end feels better, yet with a bittersweet note.Missions where you complete the objectives but things still go south would help. Make it feel like sometimes, just every now and then, a single pilot can't solve every problem by shitting enough missiles into it.
>>584322976I bet the quality is so good the food actually looks like the advertisement
>>584322164>>584321815I wonder how the whole Tekken thing would play out given the plot
AC0 is loosely based on WW2, rightBut WW2 canonically happened in Strangereal at the same time it did in our world according to the Endurance's page in the artbookAre we ever going to see what that was about? Who was fighting who, and why?
>>584322164Considering that Aragami imply the world having to team up, would mean you create a force with entire arrays of super weapons, relatively small nations who have industrial complexes that churn out advanced tech and material to conquer continents, secret organizations that guide everything from the shadows (somehow Belkan Aragamis who cause the Aragami-kind to fuck itself over), and of course squadrons of mute psychopaths who could devastate enemies in cold war planes, but now just get those mass destruction future planes by default. I honestly don't know much about Aragami combat lore, but I want to think Strangereal would have a pretty good chance (at least at the beginning).
>>584323139>AC0 is loosely based on WW2, rightother than belka being nazi germany, no
>>584323139>AC0 is loosely based on WW2, rightn-no?The only similarity is Belka invading everyone around them like the Nazi Germany, but their reasons and Osea's expansion (pretend America) isn't the same
>>584323129The Mishima Zaibatsu probably operates as a local-only "megacorporation" in notjapan.>>584323148IIRC you have to kill an Aragami to make a weapon that is basically an Aragami but in sword form, I don't think how they ever killed the first one to start that chain happened, so I choose to believe that stonehenge does a hell of a job.
>>584323230I don't even think the belkan war was a world war even. The narrator says it "engulfed the world" but it's pretty fucking localized.Compared to what nazi Germany did, belka seems pretty tame.
Been getting more sorties where there's a single CPU player that causes the timer to run out, which ultimately ends in people leaving because no one wants to wait it out.
I want to use a bomber
>>584323423Aragami Combat where you fly half-organic planes that can change their shape a bit when you switch between attack modes, does sound kinda interesting. It's somehow way more out there, but Ace Combat also didn't have a biotech super plane yet.
>>584323442Yeah the Belkan War is basically the Gulf War if Saddam had been slightly more competent but also chimped out and nuked himself just to make a point.
>>584320881>>Skin/Texture Modding Guide>https://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn>Sorry, the file you have requested has been deleted.
>>584296072>Wasn't there some shitty dragon game early in the PS4 lifecycle that tried to do this but it sucked?You're thinking of Lair for the PS3. Which kinda failed because it relied on the SIXAXIS for gyroscope aiming.
>>584322976while i love the idea that he opened a restaurant, isn't it more likely that he got his tac name after the restaurant because he's a big eater?
>>584322976When the mission clock strikesHalf past six, babe!Time to head forAWACS lights!It's a good timeFor the great taste!Dinner: at LongCaster'sIt's LongCast Tonight!C'mon make it LongCast Tonight!
When is the update
>>584323230>>584323395Really? I always saw it as a drunken blend of lots of different parts from WW2 but with jet fightersEconomically stagnant Germany jumps Poland as a start to regaining their status, which immediately triggers an international crisis to stop them early, America and the Soviets fight together out of mutual interest, there's a literal Dresden "are we the baddies?" mission, Germany starts getting split by annexation, and there's an atrocity to end the war so bad that nobody ever commits it ever again Plus the pilot interviews being inspired by WW2 vet interview docs that were popular at the time on things like History ChannelAnd then AC5 is the "what if the disgraced true believer Nazis hatched a plot to make America and the USSR's Cold War go hot out of revenge for what they did to them"
>>584321891yellow aerial targets are worth significantly more morality points than ground yellow targets, let none escape, also certain actions like coming to aid an ally gives knight points while ignoring gives merc
>>584324702Hey guys, Burger Man hereJust letting you know that we need more Sotoan-shaped ornaments for our giant Yulemas tree.BELKAN CLAYBELKAN CLAYBELKAN CLAY
>>584325023Oh, let me add this one too.This thing? It was just laying around.What can I say? I like the design.
Are they gonna use Strangereal for anything other than ace combat?Or would that cause uncomfortable fanbase overlap with whatever new game they'd use it in?
>>584323794I want to raze Sotoan cities to the ground on Air Chief Evans' command
AC8 OST links a kind anon posted earlier expired before I could grab them. :<[MISSION FAILED]
>>584325314The grounded scenes with you and Baxter in Rio Bajo made me want a proper spinoff in Strangereal.
>>584325314I'd love a Strangereal first person shooter, but not CoD slop. Something with the vibes of Spec Ops: The Line.
>newtype pilot named Ray haunted by a dead ghost>leading the battle force of a roaming carrier so short-staffed it has conscripted civilians>struggles to stage a fightback against an enemy that used city-destroying kinetic projectiles to carry out its blitzkrieg>the enemy is led by aristocratic larpers that hijacked the ideology of their predecessors for their own gainwelcome back amuro
>>584325314I want a civ-like game set in strangereal with superweapon wonders, an asteroid event and lots of air units
>>584325314Given a sheer insanity that happens on the ground I really wouldn't mind an FPS or a vehicle combat game that takes place in this setting
>>584325314Jetpop Studio. Like Huniepop Studio except you're taking pornographic shots of jets.
>>584325437Spec Ops The Line is a little too cynical, and besides it was just "Heart of Darkness: the Video Game".Really what we need from a Strangereal FPS is the original Call of Duty, the first one where the whole theme of the game is "no one fights the war alone, everyone fighting in the war are brothers".
>>584325458I dunno, AC8's plot feels more like Macross than Gundam.
>>584325550I don't mean a carbon copy of Spec Ops and it's themes, just something more serious than *current* CoDslop. Early CoD vibes would work well.
>>584325314Just regular-ass Ridge Racer would be nice to see.
>>584325497
I want to fly back to Rio Bajo and carpet bomb Rosita's pastures so that her sheep either get obliterated or burn alive.
>>584325437>>584325550It should be a JRPG.
>>584325645The sheep that attacked Ray was clearly a sotoan spy in disguise and must need be dealt with using guided munitions
>>584325437Strangereal MGS would've sufficed. It's a more fitting thing for a Japanese-made game than an FPS/TPS I'd reckon.
>>584325645Are you mad that sheep22 got you
>>584325628I was thinking about this too. A racing game or something like that honestly would fit right in.
>>584325698Medieval era of Strangereal, but it's a JRPG and the final boss is a giant ship with greek fire.
It's just the best when VAs emphasize the 't' in 'Sotoa'.I can almost see the spittle of disdain flying outta their characters' mouths.
My never-ever wish for ACO is that we get strategic bombers again.Yes I know they were a meme in Infinity and only there because they were cobbling together whatever AH asset they could. I still want it
>>584325497Haha, what would that even look like?
>>584325698>Medieval fantasy Strangereal>Kingdoms of Usea>Yuktobanian Empire>The Osean Magocracyit sounds hilarious and I'd eat it up
Patch status?
>>584325628>>584325726What tracks do you guys think would be good? AC8's Newfield looks perfect for a racing game, I can imagine coming out of the tunnel to see the big tower in the crater port with jets doing Forza style flyovers
>>584325629
>>584325784Separatists? More like traitors wagging their tails for Sotoa.
>>584325718Metal Gear Solid x Ace Combat would've been fucking insane. Except it's not about a bipedal doomsday vehicle, it's an aerial doomsday vehicle. And you gotta sneak around inside of it to take it down.
>>584325645I want to fly back and double team her with Kate while the sheep watch.
>>584325725Sheep 22 gave Rex permanent brain damage. When Tewy/Topkek came to visit, Baxter was hiding while Rex is greeting them with a smile at the door??
my sadness very big
>>584325945Selatapura has a modelled raceway based on one in Singapore, so that'd be cool to see the ISEV stretching up in the distance. A circuit around its base would also be neat, or maybe like a straight-line sprint on the bridge towards it (compressed for scale purposes).
>>584326092>Baxter was hidingBwo... It was more weird to hide and peek like retard instead of just being there.
What sucks about racing games now is there is no point to them. If you appeal to car autists, you get a boring game; but if you try to make the game fun, then the car autists complain.
>>584326110Oh my god, why are you still playing? Even after seeing with your own eyes what a deliberate grind fest this is?
>>584326239Ridge Racer was always about fictional cars anyway, fuck em. Oh, also they should take a page from the R-racing spinoff and integrate AC style radio chatter and storytelling.
>>584326092Acting like you're supposed to be there is infinitely less sketchy then trying to do some weird Solid Snake shit by the door
>>584326239Unironically they should go the Galactic Racer route, with a hint of Redline. All in on speed and style, but at the same time go all in on the idea of "this car has a soul" and engineering autism. Literally just Ace Combat but cars.
>>584326239I know a few car nuts. They play F1 and rally simulators with pedals and a steering wheel set up, and one of the guys is in a wheel chair with a special joystick set up to control acceleration and braking.He told me once he doesn't like games that are unrealistic because it becomes too gamey, like a toy. I can imagine that's how aviation nuts who play flight simulators feel about ace combat.
>>584326514Fuck yeah I'd play Ace-Zero
I won't lie, the ram spooked me
>>584326670I expected to sneak in and get caught, but an animal surprise attack was not on my docket
>>584326110I've put like 40 hours in online. prior to this weekend I would get an emergency sortie or two within an hour. after 10 hours of online I haven't gotten a single one. somethings changed or I'm unlucky. either way I'm quitting for now you should as well. hopefully they change the rates or whatever
>Sotoans were pastoral shepherds>Rex gets his ass handed to him by a sheepPerhaps it sensed Cope?
>>584326305my idiocy is also very big>>584326827that just means you're building up luck so next time will go well!
I get a decent amount of Emergency Sorties but I haven't had a Scramble in like a week now
>>584326929The Sheep will have their revenge.
What the hell
>>584326305Because it's fun, at least warfare is.
>>584327201He's a Ray of sunshine :)
>>584327201Did you turn off rt in engine.ini?
I started playing 6. It runs pretty well with the decomp. But what the fuck is this story? Is it just filler?
>>584327514the assault records building up to 7, showing you that Belka is still around sowing wars, so technically still a bit plot relevant, well as relevant as ACX giving you Neucom prototype planes telling you their influence is spreading. Mostly background stuff for future/past titles.
>>584320881>Land ruined by industrialization>Get utterly BTFO with the two wars you started for no reason>Military is practically non existent since the last remaining forces were sent to fucking bomb one island where they failed spectacularly.>Yuktobania was itching to join the war had it gone a bit longer.Sotoa's gonna be gone by AC9 ain't it?
>>584327514The tank crew who want to Kelly's Heroes things are okay.Later on there's a scene where one guy is incredibly fucking gay and it's funny.Aside from that yeah it's pretty terrible and the game would be better off without it.
Save some Soties for me, buddy.
>ghosts exist in Ace Combat because Pac-Man is canon to the Strangereal timeline and ghosts exist in that
<<Swarm UAV Skal>>
I don't think I've seen anyone go play the arcade games in the lobby yet
>>584328010does existing as a game in universe even count
>>584325314Returning to the era where they just threw everything into the same universe and said "yeah they're related deal with it" would be very funny. If only because I'll get to keep making posts like>but what are the implications of this for Dig Dug?
>>584325314PLANERACINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gi43GZdanA
>>584327021lmao I'm just done, gonna replay the campaign. hate to be this way but it just sucks not being able to progress at all. hopefully enough people complain and they make changes but until then just gonna chill
>>584328124Molemen!
>>584328124They added to the timeline last year so it isn't like Bamco forgot about it
>>584328075If you're so tough, then tell me which shape doesn't match across three provided images.
LAGER LAGER LAGER
You know they could at least have the decency to patch out X-40 bugs instead of leaving it this clunky
>>584328319Oh I know, believe me I know, I've been UGSF posting for years before they officially confirmed they're moving towards Ace 3, but getting to UGSF post in a faux-CoD thread would amuse me.
>>584328360What's wrong with it other than piss-poor spls?
Someone please post Rex in the I LOVE SOTOA sweater
>>584325314Strangereal RTS game, please and thank you.
>>584328479RTS is a dead genre, unfortunately.RTT would be better, try to go for the Wargame/Warno market but with superweapons.
>>584325314If there are non-Ace Combat spinoff games set in Strangereal, should we make Strangereal general instead?
>>584327658>>584327714When do I reach the meme? At mission 3 rn. I mean the<<Gentlemen, I believe no Lady could resist us right now>>
>>584328672If it goes as hard into the sincerity then just simplify it to Autism General
>>584328530>but with superweaponsWhich nation would have the most broken OP superweapons? Probably Sotoa.
>>584328530RTS would probably be more alive if every studio didn't pivot into comp slop or nostalgia bating besides like... The Total War guys
>>584327670God I wish.
>>584328701One of the last missions
Is there a name for the track that plays during the little tea party, with the Shadows leitmotif just quietly droning in the background?
>>584326515I'm a massive car autist and I enjoy arcade racers all the same my main one even lets you fly prop planes and a stunt jet too
>>584329023https://youtu.be/c4ARxX5VWTo
Drew a what if the Tomcat was in Ace Combat 3
>>584328815I think Sotoa only has an advantage of being a participant in the latest war. Osea and the Yukies probably have modern superweapons we just don't see, even if the land battleships run on special tech (but that's going to be distributed to everyone shortly).>>584328861RTS died because comp is all that's left of the fanbase. Nobody cares about single player campaigns anymore because it's just a 20 mission tutorial no matter what, and if your game isn't Starcraft 2 or better on the multiplayer side of things then nobody cares and you flop.The other problem with RTS is the perspective. Most RTS games are very zoomed in and as a result have a touchy relationship with air combat. Most games have air units way too low, or way too small. Others like the Act of War games have the perspective zoomed in too much and air units are often off screen.It's 'fixable', but the standard RTS perspective requires a lot of compromises. It's better to go full RTT and free the camera completely.
>>584328701That's mission 13.The real AC6 meme is go dance with the angels which you've heard already though.There's also the secret third meme of WHY DOES THE ANIME GIRL HAVE 84 QAAMS except you're way too late to experience that.
>>584329216Ssssslick & sexy
>pure metaslop enemy comp>laams>ew>qaams>nuclear sasms>lose anywayI had to gun down the EA-36 twice and the Morgan once. It was so fucking hype to beat these guys with our rust buckets.
god i hate warfarei understand what nagase was talking about now
>>584329481Why can't we just get the boss fight modes permanently?
>>584329481What seems to be the issue? You can't have your attacker scoring 180k every game.
>>584329430forgot pic
>>584321815>Oured Davenport Stadiumit's the harold holt swimming centre all over again
>>584329751But Captain Davenport died in November city, not Oured.
>>584326239>I've never heard of Tokyo Xtreme Racer
I can't dogfight for shit online. Everyone just seems to move far better than me.
>>584329565>Barricader>4k pointsI don't understand people.How do you play enough to unlock it and then fail that badly, even with a level 1 plane?What are people doing all match to get such low scores?
>>584329562yeah, guess i didn't explain iti tend to play attacker and it feels like either it's incredibly boring where i get ignored and just ground pound while my allies get gibbed, or i get dog piled and my allies flit around uselessly
>>584329993Can you show us your builds and plane lvl, buddy?
>rewatching ac3 intro for no real reason>it has su47s with external missilesHey can I get one of those so it doesn't have missile delay? That'd be cool.
>>584330048>What are people doing all match to get such low scores?Probably waiting to spawn. How long does that thing take to spawn if it's been killed twice, possibly more times?
>>584329481What emblem is that?
>>584330426one of the I3 ones
>>584329993bro your high G turns?
Neat detail that I came across in xitter. Mission 2 map is based on Fin-Swe border towns Tornio and Haaparanta. I'll let you guess which building is IKEA.I need to visit wrong side of the border again to stock up on snuss
>>584330426It's one of the gacha ones.You can buy it for I think 1500 coins if you get enough dupes.
>>584329565Is there a site with a list of plane unlock titles? Aircraft Mafia is funny. Reminds me of the E-6 mafia.
To the Anon who had free-cam during cutscenes, Are you able to check if John Belka has a real name on his uniform?
>>584330625Mr. Simon Carter? Or someone else?
What would you do if you were at your favorite parlor on the waterfront, enjoying a cone of ice cream or dairy free frozen dessert treat when you hear behind you <<Ibn rocket launcher ibn va fare>> and turn around to see a fully automated development of a Dragonet class submersible carrier?
>>584323129>next AC game you play as a merc for the Mishimi Zaibatsu hired by Kazuya to assassinate Akuma and Heihachi
>>584330125Right now my main fighter is the mig 31b with super manoeuvrability. I'm saving money for a new plane, maybe the f-16.
>>584325314>ground Strangerealenjoy dying to a single missile
>>584330736The clan economy relies on mercs like us
>>584330618Check the database website in the opThat one is for F16, it's a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_Mafia
>>584330618https://ac8-database.pages.dev/aircraft/ has all of them but you need to check plane by plane which isn't very efficient.You can change tabs on the nickname page ingame to get the entire list, but that doesn't tell you which name belongs to which plane and sometimes that can be hard to work out.
>>584330714Thanks anon. Name doesnt sound Belkan at all..
>>584330509Ahh, nice, haven't gotten that one yet, been using the I3 special operations one because it reminds me of the SAC patch.
What was his problem?
>>584330726>submersible carrierpffft wake me up when its a land submarine
IT'S SO HOT IN HERE!
>>584331007He liked Enso's insurance policy and 80/20 match for his 401k
>>584330112Once matches start taking 5 minutes to find you'll have teammates who understand that attackers are the main "carry" on a team and focus on either protecting you or making the enemy attacker's life even more miserable than yours.
>>584330823Is the 500 sorties one in the game right now? Gonna have to go back to a couple planes...
>>584330754The mig-31 is already the best a2a plane in the game, you're better off saving for an attacker or ecm plane.
>>584331007Imagine being enough of a stooge to willingly lay down your life for a corporation, with no bullshit buffer of honor or duty or service to country. God damn.
>>584331007Look at that belkan physiognomy
>>584331240Ok. Maybe I just need to level it up more, I think i'm level 9.
>>584331270people unironically do this irl. think of all the idiots that get shot by shoplifters trying to protect insured merchandise or things like that lel
>>584331270I think that guy has had enough of nations.
>Replaying AC8 to unlock ace planes>Mission 8 have a Shadow on my tail that I am struggling to shake>Wingmen aren't doing much against them>Suddenly it explodes>Look back and see that Queen 1 bagged herself a ShadowKate was your wingman all along.
>Hadn't tried LAAM since my first day of Online>Think "maybe it's just player skill and I'm overreacting to hating it">Try it myself again>Not even trying, get MVP lazily slinging the fucking things I feel disgusted even doubting myself. Kill LAAMs.
>>584331515Meant mission 3*
>>584331405You need to unlock level 20 to get QAAMs. Then just dump xp into it until you're at least lvl 15.
>>584331654Ok, i'll see how it goes.
>FA-36 Game's 50 sortie title is "Cannon Fodder">500 is "Squadron Survivorlmfao they knew exactly what they were doing with that mission
>>584331571Its not as good against players who know how to actually turn their plane but for farming bots yeah its easy mode.
Prologue is so fucking hard man, no matter what I do I can't find a way to not get shot down. Any tips /aceg/? I don't know how PA expects us to beat this mission.
>>584331571Wait until you see the UGBL with max upgrades.
>>584331760I feel like bot planes should be flying at Scramble tier or higher, no matter the mode or difficulty. This keeps LAAMs as useful against shit like bombers and big flyers, but useless against an AI that actually moves and uses flares. Not a perfect solution but it'd kill all but the most brainless LAAM spammers.
Is Tewy making fun of FA-36 during the M28 scene?
>>584331957Yeah I feel its more a buff the AI is what is called for.
>2 LAAMs+2 EA36 squad on Warfare
>>584321826The Attacker line is the perfect place to have at least one prop plane loaded with bombs. I need one prop attacker, the Frogfoot isn't slow and cumbersome enough, I want more.
>>584332194i doubt they'd ever add a prop to the game. ace combat is the jet game
out of curiosity how much of an AC8 playthrough is sitting through cutscenes and briefingsfeel like it must be at least 2 and a half hours
It's hard going back to games with only 1 special weapon, having 2 is so much more fun
>>584331007Enso has dental, and gas coupons
>>584332276Retard-kun...
>>584331940The explosion range parts stack, so you can actually get that higher.>>584332276There've been props in a few games.I think the concept is stupid in a jet game but it's happened.
>>584331940>max upgrades>not using both radius parts
>>584331925I still can't figure out how to get past this point. Why did they make the literal first mission so damn hard? It's a boss fight from the start menu
>>584332454where is there a prop in this game
>>584332550hey what's a tu95
>>584328075I LOVE FUCKING LAGER
>>584332612you can fly that?
>>584332276JA lets you fly WW2 prop planes.
>>584332276>>584332497A turbine engine is just a prop turned into a fan with fuel shot through it.
>>584332194Make Brazilians happy by putting in the Super Tucano or some shit.I honestly did not know Embraer was Brazilian.
>>584332713How do you do a static test of a ramjethypersonic wind tunnel?
Just finished Mission 19 uh...Jesus Christ I'd hate to be part of the crew. And alsoAAAAAAA ITS FUCKING BELKANS AGAIN?!
>>584332729Not even a hue but I love this thing.
>>584331925>Hitless players btfo
>>584332820Yes>whyFor money
>>584332820no its just tax evaders
>>584327670They will probably get some minor mention on some billboard asset like all other non-Usea nations.Either that or they will be brought by corpos and become hired guns for GR
>>584332820AWWNB had a schism and became AnCaps
>ADF-11 encounter on Gunther Bay co op assaultis this extremely rare or did they just update the game for new encounters? When the hell is Raven in this game anyway?
>>584332729>A random Skycrawler makes it in
Why is the mig-31 kinda slow in online? It's not even in the top half of all aircraft sorted by top speed. Why does the Gripen have the highest top speed along with the best speed boosting ability?
>>584331014>Land submarine>Has to create tunnels by designThat thing isn't surviving the first contact with the nation it invades
>>584332802It's simple, you do the test inside another larger ramjet
>>584332820I mean, that's the goal of both GR and Neucom. They eventually succeed in 2090.
>>584333225Test pilots back in those days really had the heaviest balls of any men in history to willingly jump into these contraptions and take to the skies
>>584329216Too round and Neucom-y for a GR plane
>>584332545>>584332497You sure? I know they stack on the site but do they actually stack in-game?
>>584331925The prologue is my only S on Ace
>>584332694Infinity, too.
>>584329319thanks>>584333420agreed BUT I didn't want to just slap a COFFIN on a Tomcat and call it day either, and having an old airframe modernised isn't very neucom spirited eitherhonestly at the end of the day i just wanted to have fun designing an AC3 Tomcat
>a fitting punishment for those who deny natureis such an impossibly cool statement that i've started using it in my day to day lingo
>>584333218I wouldn’t say it’s extremely rare, but it is one of the more uncommon ones that have been in since launch
>>584331007Gambling debts given how many degenerate gamblers where present on the Endurance
>>584332194CROP DUST A SOTOAN TODAY
>>584333403Imagine going even farther back and flying some of the first commercial props.
>>584333616Coooopyyyy. :D
>>584333085It's funny in Strangereal we now have Globalism: Anarcho-Commune at the foot of the Space Elevator, pushed by the (former) Princess of Erusea (good) and Globalism: Corporate free trade zones, pushed by Enso Order/GR (bad). I am sympathetic to the former, it's hard not to be given I'm on the internet all day. I can see where the idea of connections and linking everyone together peacefully comes from. But regrettably in the SR timeline, the latter is probably gonna win.
>>584329216looks stupid and ugly and literally absolutely nothing even remotely like the tomcatbut if you enjoyed drawing it then that's cool and I'm happy for you
>>584331757I can't decide if I want to run Cannon Fodder or the A-6's Unwelcome Visitor>>584333261Gripen a cuteLAAM SASM boom and zoom is so fun
>>584333225The Skyly D would fit in wonderfully.
>>584333738I guess forward visibility is overrated and superfluous
>>584333656I hate this thing. Giant ugly overpriced piece of shit
>>584333261All online aircrafts handle the same at lower levels. The MIG isnt anywhere near as fast as its offline counterpart from the get-go.
How good is the EA-18G in MP?
>>584333853Just slap some COFFIN on that bad boy
>>584333616The fact that you blow them up anyway, I guess it reminds me of how the Scinfaxi were leaning onto the Razgriz myth but the fact they were blown up anyway made them reconsider. But anyway, I was thinking that Rex blowing them up seems oddly karmic payback for hubris.
>Sotoan-Yuktobanian War DLC Missions>two missions where you play as Tewy>two missions where you play as Tasha's mom >one big final mission where you get to pick either of them >whichever character you choose becomes mute as per AC tradition, while the character you don't pick talks on the radio chatter>mission ends as both Tewy and Tasha's mom shoot each other down, setting the stage for the AC8 main story
>>584333915same upgrade costs (stupidly high) as the EA-36 if you can wait for that instead
>>584333853just trust your instruments bro
>>584333738There's a midget in a compartment on the belly that tells the pilot to pull up when necessary, he also cranks the machine guns and lowers the landing gear
>>584333915overpriced and inferior to the ea36but i like it
>>584333261Top speed is really an irrelevant stat. The difference between the highest and lowest is miniscule.>Why gripen betterProbably because it's a higher cost/tier plane.
>>584333662
>>584333690There is no way the princess is going to survive the next game, she 100% going to get assassinated by corpos.
There is nothing more satisfying than shoving a few SASMs up a metaplane's asshole in Deathmatch
https://youtu.be/_2MswLVplLg
>>584334221You know SASMs are PvP meta right
>One enemy ace is a Gripen parked in a tunnel that you blew up causing the pilot, who has ejected 3 times before, to suffer the obvious>You find a Gripen parked on a highway tooWhat's with all this...
>>584334357DO YOU THINK THEY HAD TO PRESSURE WASH THE CEILING
>The meta has deteriorated to the point where SASMs are considered honorableDamn. 7 was already a low point, but I didn't think we could go lower.
why is the audio in PC Zero so quiet
>>584334350>LAAMs are meta>QAAMs are meta>SASMs are meta>any other A2A rocket doesn't have nearly as good tracking and might as well be trollingdoesn't take a genius to figure it out, but I see the former two 99% of the time
>>584334357PA loves to take advantage of the fact the Gripen can take off from basically any straight line
>get to the checkpoint>have to start over because my chosen plane sucks for the second part of the mission
>>584334132Real acceleration is still tied to top speed so it is by no means an irrelevant stat.
>>584331757Fuckin hell
>>584333915It's the best EW plane, don't listen to anons glazing the barricader
>>584334505This is the reason why I did not even bother getting the Frogfoot or Thunderbolt...if I am using an Attacker its preferably the Fullback, Eagle or Viper Zero among others>>584334495Think its SAAB mandated?
>>584333853>>584334063It's not as bad as it seems, also Teacher tends to be slightly nose down in all his fights. He also doesn't need as great a view as he's killing the same Kildren he's killed dozens or hundreds of times over, including the clone of himself when he was Cheetah (the game's main character) before he defected.
>>584334221>There's nothing more satisfying than using [crutch #2] against a [crutch #4] user
>>584333879But it's still one of the slowest planes at lvl 20.
I hope someone develops a mod that gives you a mission failed screen when you dont press a quick time prompt in cutscenes within two seconds. I'd do it myself, but I have no idea how to code.
>>584334606It is when all planes get 3000 speed when fully upgraded anyway. Getting 2900 vs 3100 isn't going to have a noticable difference on your acceleration.
>>584334638How is it better when the EA can buff and debuff at the same time, while also having SP A2A's?
>>584334710>you're not a real player unless you only kill with rocketsSounds like it wouldn't be fun, no thanks.
>>584334037Feel like if they did this they would have you play as the guy who inspired the lux lunae, the single digit or something.
What is Ace Combat 8's "you didn't beat the game"?
>>584334785Faster acceleration compounds for distance travelled, even a small boost is very relevant.This is why it's so hard to catch fullbacks farming points on your ground targets, it's shared for 2nd highest top speed at lvl 20.
>>584334879Well, you see, it's because he's lying.
>>584335059squadmates in any LAAM/LACM/LAGM/LASM boat
>>584335059Rookie difficulty? Not getting Shadow 26?
>option A is clearly better than option Bbad game design desu
>>584334438SASMs are just a lot less available. F15C might honestly be the best dogfighting plane in the game though since Game gets shit low speed turning.
>>584335059Using DLC plens at any point
>>584334879>gets range increase to ECM>range and duration increase to ESM>massive ESM buff at Lv20>can stagger buffs for when you only need oneIt's main downside is that ECM is behind 60 yellowprints, and the Lv20 ability being at Lv20 means it's a massive investment.>A2A SPWLet's not pretend 4AAMs are any good
why are the bullet counts so low for multiplayer planes... also the general squadron is at capacity is there a second one? Also any recommendations for planes to pourchase with this ace coin currency or just keep playing and unlocking stuff?
>>584335169Gripen and Rafale, though.
>>584335059Not saving Betty
>AC9's totally not an AC3 continuation will feature the good guy Corpo created by DDU rike?
>>584334879>while also having SP A2A4aams are useless>How is it betterGrowler has better abilities
>>584335221Growler also gets an air damage ability. Between that and its super ESM it has more damage and better homing on its missiles, even though Barricader has two missile abilities.Barricader still flies better of course.
>>584335059would saying using QAAMs be too harsh? They felt like a cheat code to me. They or SASMs excuse a lot of bad habits even on ace difficulty.
>>584335271Rafale gets hcaa, not sasm.
>>584321251My negroid compatriot in Christ - and I say this not as an insult - but just watch UC-era Gundam (or even some AU entries) if you like your protagonists constantly faced with Shakespearean tragedies.
>>584335434The last 2 abilities on each plane's list aren't in the game
>>584334971The feel of putting a rocket volley through one of those Barricader metaslaves would be pretty nice...Maybe I should level another plane...
>>584335059Letting Queen flight get a TGT kill during Landship 3.
>>584335221It takes about as much plane xp to get to lvl 15 as it does to get from 15 to 20.Unless you're nolifing the game lvl 20 stats and abilotiea are a meme. It's over 100 sorties with a single plane.
>>5843352214AAMs on the F-18C with the shortened distance but dogfight chase ability is somewhat decent against AI targets, not such against competent human players thoughbeit
>>584335453Oh, that's right, it's LAAM+LACM. Oops.
>want to fuck around with SAAM>no planes i like get access to themzamn
>>584335195The only "dlc" plane you can use on your first playthrough is the 14a anyway
>>584335090>This is why it's so hard to catch fullbacks farming points on your ground targetsIt's not though? Are you not equipping bypass optimisation or something?> it's shared for 2nd highest top speed at lvl 20The fact that you can easily catch fullbacks in any fighter is the proof that the miniscule speed advantage is pointless.
>>584335661>over 100 sortiesDo the later planes take more XP? I got most of mine done ~50-60 sorties in. Maybe I got lucky with emergency sorties and such.
>>584335438Shadows at the end still avoid QAAMs, SASMs are more "cheaty"
>>584335661I got my frogfoot to 20 just because I thought it would be funny.
Can you blow up Shadow 24 in M18?
>>584335018>Play as Luna 10 with a very tasha-like tewy as wingman>Yuktobanians gain the upper hand thanks to their military superiority and every mission is a strategic loss depsite your effort>Tewy slowly gets more and more somber>Last mission you get split up because of Ofnir Squadron and she is shot down while you are away>Last cutscene is in the hospital, Tewy is on a weelchair, her innocence lost and her hopes crushed
>>584335934you have to if you want the full assault records
What the fuck is that weird voice in the last mission? I thought it was russian since i just bought the su57 but it's not
>>584335531ESM upgrade is Growler's sixth so it is in the game though.Growler's last two upgrades are extra flares (who cares) and a 2AAM upgrade (ok that makes the flares look good).
>>584335976I was more curious about the reaction from Tewy and Toprak
>>584335921>mfw immediately blapping Shadow 22 with the EMLB on all subsequent playthroughsFuck off with your C&F stuffed turkey of a Su-57. God only knows how you fit munitions in with the 500 fucking chaff you shoehorned into the poor thing.
>>584335985It's the Triumphant's on-board AIIt really likes lager
>>584335661Growler is still decent without the last ability. Flies worse but it has the damage ability so its missiles hurt more. Or you can skip that and take ESM range (which also has a stealth duration boost) to make it easier to fit people in.The real issue is just that you need the final level cap unlock to take ECM and that's 60 blueprints. Meanwhile Barricader gets ECM from level 1.
>>584335568lmao, just got the Ace on that mission to spawn yesterday after several botched attempts. Gripen with 6AGMs or anything with 8AGMs works best at sniping TGTs before Queen Flight. >>584325645t. least genocidal IDF pilot
>>584335816Only if the fullback is low level or retarded. Otherwise it just fucks off even when you run both nghpc ii and bros.
>>584335661Like I said, massive investment.Barricader is certainly better "out of the box" with no general blueprints. And you can certainly make the argument that some planes (Barricader, Fullback) only get marginal improvements from general blueprints which would be better used elsewhere. I don't disagree.But I think a "which is better" discussion does need to take maxed planes into account also
>>584336157Poor Belkan sub AI just wants to get drunk. Can't say I blame it.
>>584336392Fullback needs the last upgrade because the UGB ability is lvl 17.
>>584336392What are the Barricader's last 2 upgrades?
>>584336119 I really hated using hte EMLB, whether it was the AI or maybe my own skill level, felt like enemies at later dificulties just slide out of the way immediately
>>584335874Planner says so.Same three tiers as upgrade costs.
>>584335874Barricader needs 15k plane xp for lvl 20. Now check out your xp gains in regular sorties.
>>584336768Well you're not getting 15k barricader exp by playing growler that's for sure.Unless you plug in hundreds of combat exp usbs into it I suppose.
>>584336527UGB ability is overkill. Radius 2 alone is enough to make a Lv10 Fullback into a beast.I'd rather spend the blueprints on something like the Eagle C which goes from shit tier to arguably dogfighter king
>>584336678Oh, yeah, it sucks total ass, but he's lined up for a direct shot without needing to really aim at all after the cutscene.
>>584336919No. You NEED the nuke. If you're not using the UGNuke you might as well fly the Strike Eagle or even a Mirage with UGBs.
Do you guys think mulitplayer would be fixed by adding in the Trinity special weapon from Assault Horizon?
>>584336919%increases stack multiplicatively so you really want all 3 bomb radius upgrades.
>>584337167No
>>584324702Moonman Moonman cant you see? All Sotoans need to hang from trees.
>Got the wingman command achievement during the m28 shadow fightGod that was satisfying for how weird it was that it took that long to trigger
>>584336919>>584337019Still rocking a Mirage for bombing. I know the Fullback has UGBL but is the weapon delay on it worth over regular UGBs with buffs?
>billboard only shows up during the Selene fightWhat did they mean by this?
>>584337167MP will be fixed by adding pursuing moby dick 4
>>584337452The corpos were watching...
>daytime Comona is in the game>with completely different cloudd as well>but only in a single training missionHuh.
>>584337019>>584337252What does that radius look like in practice?I stopped at 10 to level other planes, so I don't have too much experience on it. I don't remember having trouble fitting an entire group into a single bomb, or not one shotting siege tanks and heavy howitzers
>>584337452The Godhead is becoming self aware and started telling us the end is soon
>>584337450Absolutely worth it, the radius and damage make a huge difference on difficulty level 3.Mirage is still good for maps with lots of ships since they get retarded amounts of HP on their main body.
>>584335985Its saying [garbled word] ladenSo it's loading a missileOffnote but it may be the one ace combat enemy with as much ammo as the player, since I had like 30 missiles left at the end of the mission
>>584331270Imagine being enough of a stooge to willingly lay down your life for a government, with no tangible rewards except "honor", "duty", "values" and fake medals discharged and homeless. God damn.
>>584337814>on difficulty level 3.I rarely get even level 2, is it tied to your Rank? Im on whatever Rank has the EA-18.
It's funny going back to replay 0 even at max volume you can barely hear the radio chatter compared to modern AC games where they just full blast every audio source in your ears
>>584337636What? Moonlight and Shadows is Comona in daytime.
>>584337681Even with all the upgrades you can't oneshot a level 3 siege tank. With the gigaradius you can often fit 2 groups into one bomb. 341m radius means 682m diameter.
>>584337894Unironically based and noble if said government acts in their citizen's best interests.
>>584337636With all the high-tech facilities in Strangereal, Comona's looked especially outdated.
Why did it feel like getting the F/A-18F was a trap...the F/A-18E's SOD is good enough for any anti ground mission in story on top of being able to load 6AAM and QAAM
>>584337958Pilot rank? I'm one rank under you and almost always get 3 in warfare while getting 2 and 3 in assault.Might be tied to your hangar, have you created a set with the Morgan?Could also just be hidden mmr or something. I notice it takes a while for me to find a match and I often get the same players.
>>584337894Gay.https://youtu.be/YB6Xq-jjzeE
>>584337452Cute birb
>>584337894Nice try asshole but ive been fucked by applications for government positions because veterans take priority in my countryWhich wouldn't be bad if they simply moved in front of the pile, instead of being under qualified and inexplicably causing the entire application pool to be tossed
>>584338006...Fuck, I'm retarded. Forgot about that because half that mission is transiting to and play around the opposite end of the map.>>584338095I mean, they do outright say shuttles are outmoded now that the space elevator is online.
>>584338070>government>acts in their citizen's best interestsLolLmao even
There seriously HAS to be a way they can design a one on one ace fight without resorting to Mihaly hax. Pixy's still the best but he kind of just gets trivialized once you figure out the way to beat him. We still haven't got a truly great designed ace boss fight in this series but there has to be a way.
>>584338442>I mean, they do outright say shuttles are outmoded now that the space elevator is online.What gets me is why they have Falcon Heavy's. They've had working SSTOs and ALTOs since the early 2000s, what do they get out of reusable rockets?
>>584338749Crimson 1
>>584338749>Once you figure out how to beat himGod forbid we have mechanically sound fights
which mission is the best to grind MRP for the 25M achievement?
I just realize... Nastya didn't shooting at all?
>>584338749They just need to do Pixy on a bigger scale. Pixy having 3 very distinct phases is what makes him great, they just need to do that again but with all the modern AC flavor
Where's the 69?
>>584339247you can cheese mission 16 by spawncamping the drones and beat it in like three minutes
What's the lore reason of having a B7R-esque fight above Comona every war anyway?
>>584338749multi-phase dat shit
>>584339513what's that between 66 and 70? There you go.
>>584339558Tradition and soul.
>>584339513
>>584339247Mission 16 and 27 are the most efficient, but it's gonna take a lot of a lot of replays
>redoing the campaign on Elite to unlock Ace since you missed a few missions>can shoot down all planes in one missile shot>next mission exact same loadout same parts same targets>now it takes twoI'm starting to believe that Mission Benchmark rumor
>>584339817Fatsia with a SOD is disgustingly easy to farm
Whoever said you need to revert the nvidia drivers to July, you have my thanks. I finally managed to not only run but beat the game. Why the hell did we need to do this to make this game run?
>It's outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbTc_AUkVFk
>>584339832>Mission Benchmark rumor?
so is the update just making zero standalone?is that really it?
For Patron of the Parts, do I need to own all planes 4 times or just one copy of each?
What's the unlock condition for the black/gold-trim skin for the x-40? I beat the game on ace twice by now.
I like the song that goes AAHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>584340152What more do you want? They still can't sell it. It probably took a fair amount of lawyer shit flinging to get it separate on steam in the first place.
>>584338749Give him some kind of superweapon like every X seconds there's a big aoe explosion around him or maybe he has bodyguard drones that get in your wayA phase that's guns only (for both of you)A tunnel flight chase as phase transitionSome kind of external interference like orbital bombardment or railgun cannon spam or those microwave balls from the final fight in ACX, but the patterns are random so you can't just memorize themI dunno man
In Mission 7 do my allies actually help me destroy anything? Feels like I'm doing all the work making us some money.
>>584338749I commend Shadow 22 for getting close, if it wasn't for all the flares and PSMs literally deleting missiles then he does a pretty decent job of using everything in the player's kit against you, so you either luck out or get good (or cheese him with railguns)"Oh, I could beat that better/faster, I know I just need to practice" is a good feeling to have when finishing a fight>>584340217Just one copy
what does Baxter's emblem mean?
>>584337452Anemones...
>>584340571Botany and Canada
>>584340571A FUCKING LEAF
>>584340542They destroy things here and there but don't expect them to do much.
>>584340152Hope we get cheevos too.
>>584339247If I don't get there after doing all the challenge runs, I'm just gonna cheat
>>584340571Warcriminal
>>584340571we wuz botanists n shiet
https://x.com/xxqurage/status/2108107409655017754AAAAHH AAAAH AAAAH UWAOI
>Revertimini ad terram nostram,>Cum amicis et familia.>Revertimini ad mundum ditiorem.>Noli dubitare. Proficisce te nunc.
Update when
SO WE WILLRIIISEABOOOVE
AC8 had some good OSTs and some forgettable ones but nothing matched this for me yet...https://youtu.be/gtDmCpkIH5A&t=48
Anyone got that chart of low-cost to high cost planes and how much it takes to upgrade them? Thanks!
>>584342149https://ac8-database.pages.dev/aircraft/
>>584341694It's just more peaks on the mountain range to be honest. All of the AC saga has timeless bangers, it's only about the one that "touches you" the most at the end.For me is still this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQFI3rWfuEI&list=RDhQFI3rWfuEI
>>584342149Not a chart but >>584336702 has the total costs.
>>584342259AC5 was them going full anime, I think they'd struggle to get to this level of "what if we just end on a colony drop?" again.
>>584341694>[game] ost adopts electric guitar>it suddenly becomes a lot more generic and forgettable every fucking time
how do i get that preordered aircraft again? i can't find the option.
>>584342906Check for mailbox while online.
>>584342698>farbanti in 4 has electric guitar>is totally fucking coolI like it when that song plays in multiplayer.
People who fly on cockpit view want to be pilots, those who fly in 3rd person want to be planes.
>>584342221>>584342431Thanks, though that’s not the one exactly I’m looking for, but I’ve seen it in the threadsShould I aim for Su-34 or F-2A if I wanna do A2G?
>>584342698?Almost every AC ost has electric guitar.
CALL ME UP, I'VE GOT TO BE ALIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG5AoC0Z77cShame the Harrier will never be playable
>>584339969Ue5 is fucking shitRegardless of what the usual suspects say
>>584343426The only attacker that gives the su-34 a run for its money is the f-15e, so wait for the su-34.
>>584342698>[game] ost adopts electric guitar>anon reveals his homosexuality
>>584343395I fly first person because I want to fly
>>584343426SU-34It's the king in MP
>>584343426SU-34There really isn't a point in the F-2 as multiroles do its job better.Also if you click each plane in that link and switch to online it'll tell you the upgrade costs.
Tsk tsk, I find Dealer's lack of confidence disappointing when we have splatted how many Shadows by this point....
>>584339974>I just wish they got 30 frames per second>I would have liked to see 30 frames per second>my biggest gripe is it's only 30 frames...Holy fuck shut the fuck up this dude sounds like a fucking retard
>>584343548>>584343608>>584343708Alright, Su-34 it is thenThough should I take Su-34 or F-15E? I have the rank and 300k zolls to invest on one of it. Taking both cost and performance-wise that is
>>584343948I think I recall people recommending the Strike Eagle as the best Attacker
>>584344004Does it get 4AGM and UGBL ?
Man no kidding the S-ranks really are insanely forgiving. Made a hash of several missions while redoing the campaign on Elite to unlock Ace and I'm still getting S-ranks for what I'd be certain would be a B-rank at best.>>584341694Ace Combat 7 has the best OST in the series everyone else kinda loses by default so I don't hold it against AC8.
>>584343948SU-34 is honestly a lot easier to learn and I think if you are in doubt pick the SU-34. It also gets a speed upgrade ability.
>>584344226No, though I think XSDB is comparable to 4AGM and it also gets the SFFS
>>584343597Okay Cope.
>>584343948>>584344004Strike Eagle is better against ships and their GIGABUFFED hp on diff 3, Fullback is generally better at everything else.Stacking all the radius buffs on the UGBL gives you a mini-nuke and the Fullback is faster and slightly more manoeuvrable. It also has better abilities, the speed ability is better than the F-15Es anti-air ability.The F-15Es XSDBs are a bit better as a 2nd A2G weapon than the Fullback's 4AGMs but both fulfil basically the same role of cleanup after your big bomb has wiped almost everything. Overall I'd say the Fullback is slightly better unless the mission has a ton of ships.
>>584344485UBGL is much better than SFFS, doesn't require a good entry angle
>>584344004Fullback is better most of the time. The only time SFFS beats UGBL is when you're clustering it to kill ships. The rest of the time UGBL does good enough damage in a big area and you can drop from any height/angle without thinking. And 4AGM is easier to use as a secondary than XSDB too.Fullback also costs less to upgrade which is nice. You can have a level 20 Fullback for the same amount of gold blueprints as a level 15 Strike Eagle, which means it not only flies better from the extra levels but also from the speed/mobility ability it gets at level 20.
>>584340409i was hoping it was an update to ac8 (aco specifically) not just something for zero
This is now my wallpaper.
>>584344767They mentioned gameplay adjustments, so it still might be coming
I'm probably gonna finish AC8 sometime this week and then I won't know what to do with my 2-3 hours after dinner the only time of the day I have to myself
I don't think I'm gonna bother with MP now that I'm done with SP.Feels like they have a lot of FOMO related stuff there and the only way to not be affected by it is by not engaging with it.
>>584344941>Extreme contrast between light and dark>Radiant bright pointIt's a shit background, not functionalThere's got to be a cool as fuck backdrop of the retaking of theve ii somewhere, with the battleship lighting up the horizon
>>584345240The desktop is supposed to look nice, not be functional. Anything functional should be done from the terminal.
>>584345227Unless they completely rework multiplayer it'll be dead within a month anyway.
>>584345227Bruh it just takes a little foresight>You're missing out on being upset at people>Getting your shit stolen>An impossibly inane grind just to be on level with people who play to be sweaty. In fucking ace combat>Daily choresThere's so little to look forward to the only reason you would remotely like it is because it's the closest thing to classic arcade that existsWell that and the VR missions in 7 or whatever
I am going to fly the entire campaign in a Fishbed with machine gun pods only.
>>584343708F-2 is good as a transitional plane. Available very early, has attacker damage bonus, can get LASM and UGB with no gold blueprints spent, has lots of gun ammo for shooting ships. Excellent noob plane until they get high enough rank to buy something else. And by something else I mean the Fullback.
>>584345240Show me a 'functional' wallpaper please. I can see my shortcuts and icons fine.
>>584345413I like to play windowed in some games. I don't think the sunlight works wellI would kill the contrast before making it a WP
why can't I have QAAM on the Phoon
>"That's a Sotoan for you,"What the fuck was his problem?
>>584345953Nigger you already have the best LAAMboat in the game
>>584346147Yeah, but you have to take stinky 4AAMs as your 2nd A2A weapon.
>>5843462605 minutes
>>584346245>Have toNo you dont?
Getting matched with a TLS nigger if I change lobbies and block him does that solve the problem
Why does it feel like they dont really acknowledge how yes the Sotoans have been feeding Rex Shadows one by one
>>584345549No you aren’t
>>584346482What the hell are you going to use 48 LAAMs on in a 5 minute mission? You pretty much have to go dual SPWs on higher level planes because they get so much ammo that going single SPW is a waste.
>>584345549You cant
>>584346582Move better, getting TLS'd is a skill issue.
>>584346582No cause you'll just get even more of them.
>>584346797You've clearly never gone up against a TLSnigger with a laggy connection. You just get deleted instantly without even seeing the laser.
>>584346797The TLS not instantly deleting is a skill issue on the user's part, not the victim's.
>>584346719Not my problem the mode is badly designedI'm still not bringing that borderline dumb fire dreck just to mess with my weapon cycling
Thank God this game doesn't have any achievements tied to MP unlike 7
>>584346797If you can't slaughter whole squadrons solo with a TLS that's a skill issue on your part. It is that broken a weapon.
>>584346797t. TLS nigger
>>584345240>>584345574>>584344941NTA, but I'm tempted to use a mix of photoshop and AI-slop to remove all of the HUD elements from this screenshot and use it as a wallpaper for a bit.
Are there any QTEs you can actually miss? What happens if you dont shoot during the scripted sequences? I only remember the briefing one where Rex just forgets to stand-up and even Tasha is surprised.
>>584346797Retard
>>584347603....Really now
>>584347441Just finish the mission and get the replay to that pointNo really though we ideally need a photomode
>>584347693There are replays?
is the multiplayer really that bad?
>>584347802No, it's simply not that good.
>>584347802It's about as bad as you can make the game and still call it Ace Combat.
XAAMs are for multi target but it seems fun to use them all vs 1 target no?
>>584347502the wingman who you're supposed to save dies and its mission failiureThis japanese dev still does fail states the old way
>>584347802It has become a chore these days is probably the best way to describe it in short.
>>584347778The post mission one yeah? But then again you can't freely dictate the camera as one of the options, which should be a thing in 2026
>>584347802It's not really worth the trouble.
>>584348062They're made to waste an SPW slot.
>>584347802yes
>>584347802PvP seems to have terrible netcode. So far PvE has felt like mission a mission 3-5 in an AC game where they go very light on the number of targets that the player has to kill since they know that they may not have a decent plane yet, except it's 8 players in the match and some of them have giganigga planes.
>>584347802YeahMaxxing out an aircraft is practically dead end, not like in Infinity where you can keep going to expand your aircraft’s part slots incrementally
>>584347802Linux isn't allowed to play so it's automatically abysmal dogshit.
>>584347802It's midAnd that's what's bad, it deserves to be better
>>584348109I know you can watch it after the mission completes, but is it saving them for me to review at a future date? Because that fight against moon was several days ago.
>Try the Rafale>It's shitLACMs reload takes actual years bros, ya'll scared of nothing.
>>584347802>menus bad>game modes bad>grind bad>cash shop bad>balancing bad>ai bad
>>584348318It saves the last 10 missions and you can go into the replay viewer and favourite them so they don't get overwritten.
Damn anyone who tries to go head on when you're in a growler gets shredded you're shooting AIM-9HVAA
alright that was a clusterfuck. how the fuck am I supposed to S-rank this on Ace? I died because I lost health via 2 missiles to the back while I was landing and I got hit a 3rd time during the fight with the Shadows
>>584348874>how the fuck am I supposed to S-rank this on Acefly gooder. You only need 160k total points and the full time bonus is 57k.
>>584340498>just add more giga broken self-defense countermeasures for the bossThis would be infinitely worse than mere scripted flight segment "hax". By the way, I've learned you can dump as many missiles into Mihaly in any scripted fight and though it may not kill him prematurely, it will surely bring him down to essentially 1 HP allowing you to simply pop off a final shoot as soon as his i-frames segment ends.
>>584345549I mean that's unironically the best and easiest way to get MGM
>>584349178>just add more giga broken self-defense countermeasures for the bossYes, that's much better than "lol sorry you're not allowed to damage the target for the next 40 seconds :^)", that's the worst fucking bossfight design imaginable
>>584340361Seconding this, I keep seeing peeps posting screenshots of a gold trimmed X-40
>>584340361Kill all named aircraft.
>>584349025If Bombers are in a straight line, You only need to shoot down the one in front. SASM one-taps them if you hit the middle target. HPAA one taps them from regardless of target.Shadows can be easily cheesed by just alternating MSL -> SASM -> MSL slowly. You need to complete the mission with AT LEAST 10 minutes left to get a ~40k+ time bonus so you need to be 120-130k during the first half to get breathing room.
>Account based in Dinsmark Belka
>>584348874I scored 132k points before taking on Shadow Squadron. But I still took too long. I've S ranked mission 28 on Pilot, but could do it again on Elite. Score as many points as you can in the first phase, and then kill the Shadows as fast as possible. Otherwise you'll lose the time bonus. Everyone around here SASMs make it trivial, but they didn't work for me.
>>584350327If I make a joke about starving belkans, will they get irrationally defensive about their false utopia
Warfare is such a shit mode dude, even when you are winning you can feel that the other team are just flying inferior planes or got a bad draw, its not fun or engaging.
>>584350423Pretty much. It takes nearly all the honor out of victory.
>>584350423Did Infinite had tier balancing or anything to compensate for the point differences of plane tiers?
>>584350327They've been offline for a while, hope they're okay
>>584350417Nah they'd just send you their version of the navy seal copypasta but with Belkan magic gibberish.
>>584350327
>>5843504977 had soft tier balancing and it was the most recent entry
>>584350783If this isn't an estovakian sweatshop account idk what is
>>584349025>>584350409how does the time bonus work exactly?
>>584350497Infinite allowed players to form their own rooms so you could just do your own shit. It was pretty much superior in every way barring making the host asshurt or them being an asshole and kicking you out of Scrambles for their friends
>>584348874I just did my S rank run with the Game, using SASM and HPAA, going back to restock twice (almost getting killed the first time as a missile landed directly in front of me on the tarmac)I focused pretty much exclusively on bombers the entire time which resulted in a massive furball before the Shadows fight over the island where I guess the AI wants to be, where I did my best to look out for F-35s but I eventually whittled them down to a single Fulcrum, or whatever the MiG wasIt probably helps to know ahead of time where all the spawns are, I knew where the B-1s would be to intercept so I was already on the move after cleaning up everything in my areaFor the Shadows fight in particular I think I lucked out because even with them dodging SASM constantly I completely minced them, I even took a bit to try and use regular MSL on 22 but since I suck I switched back and still had a good amount of time bonusI don't know if any of this is helpful I just wanted to talk about almost getting killed, it was really cinematicAnyway good luck anon, if I can do it you can
Played for two hours and got 1 general blueprint out of two scrambles
>>584351397Oh also I got a shitton of planes crashing into other planes so I'd highly recommend doing that
They really should have swapped Mission 29 and 30 in the timeline. The final battle should have taken place in the city named in the title of the game, the same city you spent three missions capturing and defending, not some island you visited once. And Tewy is a better final boss than some clanker boat speaking in garbled Belkan.
>>584351609>I want the emotional conclusion over the logical conclusion Meh, go play x33 or a souls game
Does anyone know the name of that really high energy strings song that sometimes plays after mission update in mp?
>>584351076You just need enough time on the mission timer. I believe in my S rank on Pilot, I had about 9:45 left. That got me to an S. You gotta go fast.
Do you think attack helicopters being playable would save the multiplayer? Perhaps adding in bombers like the B-1b or B-2? Maybe even having both sides compete to destroy each other's airbase? Maybe they could add in a killstreak system where you could spawn in as a super plane holding a tactical nuke to fire on the enemy base while the entire server hunts/escorts you. Maybe each map could be entirely in national capitals.
>>584346245Just buff your regular missiles to Aliexpress QAAMs and carry more LAAMs
>>584351948>helicoptersno>bombersmaybe>airbaseswould be sick
>>584351948ACE COMBAT IS ABOUT PLANESNO OTHER VEHICLE WOULD FITSTOP TRYING TO TURN IT INTO SOMETHING IT SHOULDN'T BENO
>>584351609Tewi wrapped up Sotoa. Triumphant wrapped up Enso Order, which had to happen since you kind of stopped Tewi from dirty bombing Theve.
>>584352339So what you're saying is they should go back to the air combat name
>>584351948What if we just made the multiplayer into Nuclear Option?
>>584352035with 4 arms slots it's not worth it to invest so heavily in MSL, you need to buff up your LAAMs as well.And having 48 of them instead of "only" 30 is really not necessary. So the only reason not to take the 4AAMs is if you don't want them to fuck up your weapon switching.
8 should've had one of those "stop the biochem terror attack, btw if you fly too hard your gas canistes go boom and you die" missions
>>584352643Should have had one where you drop biochemicals on Sotoans.
>>584352643NEUTRALIZE DA GAS
>>584351948Capital Assault was pretty alright desu
>>584347802I'm enjoying it in a sort of mindless way. I just like flying stuff in AC.
>>584342259The OST really made AC5 feel cinematic. "Zero" is pretty close in terms of a fitting final mission track.
Reminder that X soundtrack is amazing and terribly underrated.If I had to pick only one game to have remastered with modern graphics it would be X. Imagine Griswall with 8's visuals. Sex.
So what was the maintenance even for
>>584347802It's not BAD but it's built like a F2P game, specifically one of those fuckers that nickle-and-dimes you, but they ALSO don't sell skips so everyone's miserable.
>>584353653They maintained their decision to make the multiplayer bad
>>584353379Southern Cross is a fantastic nickname to have and Gryphus is a good callsign. The branching missions are pretty cool and I like the drawn cutscenes. X is a lot of fun but my god it kicked my ass.
>>584352428I was about to post about how I wouldn't mind playable Bombers again even if they were a complete meme in Infinity alongside helicopters and gunships if they just scrub AH from themBut then I realized I'm pretty much just asking for Nuclear Option But Ace Combat which frankly I would be alright with
>>584351404>picThere is something funny about how Hitler himself is just completely zooted out in the back there.
Imagine if we had Capitol Assault or Siege Assault from AH and 6 on a rotator instead of deathmatch? I mean this shit was literal peak and they wasted it on Assault Horizonhttps://youtu.be/vhQOXSMLRL4?is=05743NfI-tBzrSf0
>>584352343No no no we have to have a climactic battle where she dies just becauseBecause my emotional response is more important than a characters dying for a reason
>>584353064Btw arguably the best moment in the series is ruined because 20 seconds in pops tells everyone to STFU so he can tell blaze about SOLG
>>584354015Assault Horizon had fucking great multiplayer. There I said it. I have no idea how they manage to get it so right in that game and forget everything they learned in later titles.
Answer like that again and you're on the first bus back to the farms.
>mfw i notice the ISAF markings on the vintage A-6 in mission 14project aces never misses when it comes to the little things
>>584354832the cargo plane has it too in the previous mission
>>584344941I'm gonna stick with my Sky King one
>they made most of the special skins lame so they can take your shekels in the store. The mig29 skin from 7 is now paid, and the new one is lame desert camo.
now that AI appears to be the second coming of christ for decomps and ports and mods and all that shit will we see fanmade remasters of the old ace combats?can you like steal plane models from 7 or 8 then tell your llm of choice to recreate the scenery in a modern game engine and keep the original code?
>>584347802It's fun in an arcade, flying and shooting shit way. But the levels are simple with very obvious omissions like a land destroyer mission, megafloat etc, so they get dull fast. Matchmaking is all over the place and it largely feels like you win or lose depending on what planes you/they have. It's a grind designed like some shitty gacha F2P game.
>>584354832That plane wasn't even in 4 tho
>>584354910every day i learn new things and grow more pleased with this game
>>584355147someone random guy is already working on 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61YKVLr9_Z8
>>584355147Just bash the PS2 games together into one game, and add a coop campaign for all of it
>>584355392It just doesn't hit the same without that AC3 HUD.
>>584355392>vibecoded>uses the US version of AC3
>>584355392>Sanitized with all the charm removedWhat's even the point
>>584355392>US
>>584355413That would make too much senseBizarrely their goal was to completely whelm people in all aspects of online, a thing they achieved so thoroughly.and consistently it's hard to believe it wasn't intentional
>>5843350593x Rafale
>>584355670Preserving the cyberpunk aesthetic would take actual dev work
That's basically the XFA-36, how comes there's no reference to that plane in 8?
Welp, game's already dead. Peak euro hours and it can't find a match.
>>584355147I'd probably be more excited about it if most of them weren't just sharted out for Twitter clicks with zero intention of working on them beyond a week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh4fIVZsDdA
Online feels like some f2p game
>>584324643the buns have the white stripe of an AWACS rotating radar dome
>>584355875>No Apalis>No XFA-27 as FCU's response to the FA/EA-36 despite also being a carrier high performance plane with EW capabilities Shit game.
>>584356056it's called Gundam Battle Operation 2
Where the FUCK are these so-called "hidden tunnels" in mission 7???
>>584356215>FCU>developing high level techMy man they're so broke they have to operate out of a reactivated WW2 carrier.
>>584356242Marked on the map with red dots?
>>584356348>DevelopThat thing was already flying 31 years ago, we don't need to develop it we need to find the hangar it's being kept at and get all the dust out of the engines.
>>584355392I don't even like AC3 that much compared to the rest of the series, but one thing that is good about AC3 is the fantastic art style is has while working within the limits of the PS1. About the only way to improve it would be a higher draw distance.This is just pure slop.
>>584356242They're not tunnel tunnels, they're just targets called tunnels
Speaking of mission 7, I'm glad that you can drop GPB on the tunnels and they'll blow them up regardless of the angle, makes me appreciate they actually live up to their name and get to fill their niche.
Oh, so it turns out the guy who hands you your flight helmet in the prologue is actually the mole thats gets his shit blown smoove off
>>584356846I didn't even think about that. Neat.
>>584357076Guy should've taken the opportunity to put something in your helmet
>>584357076>Jenkins took one look at him after getting out of the helicopter and clocked him instantly lol
I would kill for matchmaking filters. Like "NO FUCKING LAAM"
>>584356670>>584356670Are they underground? How do I shoot them?
>>584357302>ban LAAM>ban SASMA fullback and his pet ECM now get 160k score every game, enjoy.
>>584357743By attacking from the correct angle?
>>584357743They're the base on the right side of the radar, in the valleyThose ammo cache targets? They're thoseYou have to either shoot them at an angle or use bombs or some other penetrative explosive
>>584357805I've tried many angles
>>584357881How hard is it to find a hole?
>>584357743theyre not called tunnels, but "hardened depot".
>>584357881Not enough apparently.It's like the lava mission from PW
>>584357881
>>584357302Ace combat 7>Point restrictions>Normalized planes>Fairly grind independent weapons like lasers and railguns>SPWs don't reload on death>Penalties for killing yourself>Cool maps like yinshiAce combat 8>Sluggish grind dependent planes>SPW Reload on death>Zero death penalty>Genuinely awful game modesLAAMs aren't the problem, the time limit and ammo economy are Game is fundamentally stacked towards being a dick and playing like oneIt's just not fun so stop pretending like filtering out LAAMs is going to magically fix the game
>>584358115That's right, the LACM hole
>>584357881>This guy probably thinks the APPROACH tunnels at glatistant are bugged to be invincibleLmao I was fucking 14 or some shit when I played this game and knew you needed a better angle>>584357781At least someone gets itTake away the big weapon and you miss the forest for the treesThe game mode is inherently fucked
>>584357932There are holes?>>584357934Yes this
>>584358335Where are the holes?
>>584357881The lock-on icon slightly changes when your missile is obscured by something and will miss as a result
>>584356348>reactivated WW2 carrier>still better than the FUCKING RAMPS Sotoans have
hmm. Yes. I'm starting to think having fewer players on your team to feed the enemy LAAMboats free points is actually an advantage.
>>584328151>plen reisingIs this game any good
>>584358594Not even that>Dealer or baxter literally exposit that you need to send a missile right up the hole>The fucking briefing tells you this as well
8 is the best AC since Zero.
>>584358736Because the Hallmark of a good experience, like league of legends, is when you tell yourself the game would be better with more you on your team and less them
>>584358884It hasn't aged that well but its probably still funNo plane physics really, feels very on rails.There's a dogfight mode as well.Planes look cool.I have the game on disk in my drawer somewhere.Just get it on PPSSPP if you want to try it out.
>>584354341If you defeat Ofnir and Grabacr real fast you can hear all the diealogue without Oka Nieba (not pops) interrupting you (I think you are referring to this?)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVShfq_FUwE
>>584359013
>>584359013No, 7 was good as well. It just had a troubled development, but it means well and has some really good missions.
>>584359324Yes, but 8 is better.
All these anons failing to place a missile down a hole is probably why Kate is always looking disappointed.
>>584359324I do wonder why AC7 felt more relaxed in general vs the often high adrenaline moments in AC8
>>584359013There was an anon the other day who glazed zero and said AC hasn't Innovatrd or done anything differently since zero and hasn't played an AC since zeroI hope you aren't that anon
>>584359373>no mission as good as Fleet Destruction or Anchorhead BayI dunno. I like 7 better, even if 8 is a more coherent game.
>>584359468You just miss the PLSLs
>>584351791>Cheap and effectiveWhy even use anything else?
>HCAA can't even two shot the most common bomber in the gameHaving access to 2 special weapons made them take incredibly retarded balance choices because now half the SPW are meant to play second fiddle and can't stand on their own
They're rotating the displays with the seasons right
>>584359219No you goof they do the big sappy journey home song in unison and Pops literally interrupts it like 6 seconds in you brief you about SOLG>>584359435Ac 7 doesny have you flying in straight lines to rush to emerging long distance threats
>>584359530No, they're cancer.I honestly like Fleet Destruction's platform destruction and tunnel runs, as well as Anchorhead Bay's overall flow.
>>584359539>Russian planesHave never been cheapThey just have a doctrine that revolves around modest maintenance fuselages and low service life engines so I imagine sustained use could run up a substantial cost when you're constantly rotating in new engines
Almost done, just the ECM one leftI did:>First playthtrough -> ELITE>Second Playthrough -> ACE + All S + All campaign medals + All enemy ACES>Third playthrough -> Attackers only + No DMG>Fourth Playthrough: Fighters only + Only Guns>Fifth Playthrough -> Multirole onlyAlso i'm at 23millions overall credits, so with the last playthrough i'll even have all the steam achievements
>>584359586Yes, both the MiG-29 and F-22 are showcasing the level 80 and 40 battlepass rewards.
>>584359574HCAA were always memes desu
>>584359468I feel like 7 has some incredible highs (Fleet Destruction, Arsenal Bird, DLC missions), but the lows are also lower and there's more of themIn 8 there's a lot of great missions, but also fewer I would call franchise's best/worst
>>584359934HCAA is pretty much just extra standard missiles
Unironically got carried in mission 9.Hours before i had to kill every caterpilar, every drone, every quadcopter while screen was nonstop red with RAILGUN ALERT (i want to put off this idiotic thing really).But last time? i was need to shoot only 1t one.
What's even the HCAA's intended use case? It seems to be a faster but weaker version of a standard missile, but it's not going to hit an enemy from a bad angle so why not just use a standard missile?
>>584359994The lows are low?Ac7 probably has the most consistent enemy density in any AC ever I don't even know what you're referring to when you say lows
I thought Veteran was Hard but I guess it's actually Normal?What was so bad about easy-normal-hard-ace?
what is this pilot XP thing you get from the supply box after every mission? Is that just pilot XP thats automatically consumed or do I have a mountain of these that I can go redeem
>>584360110In 7 they gave you shitloads of them and they were better than regular missiles in every aspect, better homing, better damage, faster lock-on and faster reload.In 8 I guess they want to encourage you to swap between them and regular missiles more, so they're best used as an alt-fire when your regular missiles are on cooldown.Basically they're more shit to throw at the enemy at once.
>>584360061It's like the terms are recognizable but the intent of the message is lostWhat the fuck are you trying to say
>>584359994The only real low 7 had was Faceless Soldier, Transfer Orders, and Bunker Buster; two of which are just gimmick missions and one just requires memorization on repeated playthroughs. They just not as fun as the better missions, but I wouldn't call them "lows".Neither 7 nor 8 have a truly offensive mission that makes you want to die.
if i want to actually dogfight what jet do i take because the mig29 is getting me fuckin nowhere
>>584360465Mission 30 is a 30 minute escort quest it's probably one of the worst offenders in the entire series.
>>584360367Enjoy your mountainIt's that other option you see when you want to upgrade a plane
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>>584360469Dogfight? In online?Fishbed to slice through planes with your gunsPair with Hi-G turns to slice a plane with a burstElse Morgan so you can TLSIn SP? Arguably the best plane is either the SU57 or F-36
So is it implied that Torres was on one of the ships we escort in the Mission St. Elmo's Fire in Ace Combat 2? If I remember that mission took place in a rainstorm.
>>584359934>>584360034In 7 they were standard missile which sacrificed A2G capability for increased A2A performance and were so good at their job while having deep ammo reserves that they could completely replace standard missiles.>>584360110They are HPAA but worse, they do more damage than a standard missile allowing them to one shot but move slower. Their intended use is that they encourage you to go all in A2A special weapon parts, meaning that aircraft without 2 A2A missiles like the F-35 get fucked.
>>584360672It does have quite a surprisingly frantic pace, especially if you go for the ace hunt
What is with the disconnects today
>>584362146>TodayAs opposed to the completely fictional flawless past 2 weeks?
>>584359814Is this a bot response?
>>584362243It just had been especially shitty for me today
>>584360469F15C, FA36, EA36 are good options
>still no patchshould i buy the dd2 dlc while we wait to see how they disappoint us?
>>584338749It can be done but people would still just call it bullshit.
>>584360469If you level it up, you can equip both abilities that boost High-G turns and either low/medium speed turning. Assuming you can get in on someone that should be enough to get onto their tail long enough to shove a pair of missiles into them or ventilate them with guns.
Just made a terrible decision and bought the FA-36
>>584363430Terrible morally speaking?
>>584363430t. sotoan high command
>>584363430It's a pretty good hunter in warfare. Great for killing Fullbacks and Strike Eagles with SASMs.
>>584362404>PTSD flashbacks to Landship 2
>>584363506Is it that busted? I thought the soulless, annoying one was the EA
>>584363430FRESH MEAT
>>584363594The soulless annoying busted annoying one is ace combat online
>Anyway you only get 29 minutes of free flight, fuck you
Why didn't we get Hortus Regis Alti as a free flight level?
Is Paint it blue the longest track in the series?
>>584364132>significantly larger maps in a true 1:1 scale, as opposed to the scaled down depictions from previous installmentswhat?
No character gave a fuck that Cope died in the intro
>>584364530>Cope? That Nomad's probably gone AWOL
>>584364530It was bizarre how much cope came up through out the game, especially towards the end considering this.
>>584364530If they did you'd just accuse them of being whiny and annoying over some guy you just met
>>584364351He doesnt seem to wrongI rushed the 31 because I was sick of darting across the map Everytime something new popped up
>>584363430Now get a buddy with EA-36 and go fuck with the other team in warfare
>>584364530Reads of different iterations>Wings is just another body on the pile>And he was a good friend>Actually he was sotoan>Actually he was the wind>Actually he mightve been the fifth wingWhat the FUCK is he
>>584363309turnfighting in this game is retarded when every just spams high-g and spins like fucking beyblades
>>584364701huh
>>584364694No it would have been more impactful if they were grieving him yet welcoming you as a replacement to keep the propaganda going
>them showing that little scene with kate after baxterimmediately crying a lot of manly tears right now holy shit.
>>584364530I thought it was fine, losing pilots all the time was pretty much routine for them, and Cope is indirectly to blame for their losses. What is weird is why they suddenly start saying how amazing Cope was 20 missions later
>>584364530Cope never existed, he was always in your head.
>>584365126Yeah the first person to immediately recognize y'all aren't a flying circus is vasquez, they make such a huge point of illustrating that joker flight is a bunch of jobbers
>>584365314I like to think cope is wingsHe's been gaslit after having been shot down with brain damage and he weaponized his talent to such a degree everyone just accepts he's been rebornThey just don't acknowledge her still alive because they don't want to lose their one chance at winning the war
>>584365062It's so over friendEnjoy the ride and report back when you finish the game
Finally this version of Hortus Regis Alti got uploadedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mRXRBHsuXc
>>584365126Tasha bawled her stupid little slanty eyes out when Kate croaked, why's she mourn so much more for her than Cope?I'm just starting to think Cope wasn't a very likeable guy in life.
>>584365751majestic
>>584365782It shattered the Wings of Theve illusion for her
>>584365782>I'm just starting to think Cope wasn't a very likeable guy in life.turns out he was literally a gypsy
>>584365782Cope was pretty likable, but he never really had a reason to get close to Tasha. On his side he doesn't even seem particularly fond of her since she's a civie and can't really be trusted to watch his back.
>>584365782Because even Tasha can't resist the effortless charms of a being of such an immaculate conception
>CopeBasically a conscientious objector and borderline traitor that knew how to run.>BaxterConscripted astronaut, not actual military in the usual sense.>TashaLiteral civilian, yet also the most competent pilot there.>CosterNo offense, but the man is a nothingburger whose only skill is he can "keep up with Tasha" and thus act as a babysitter.Ray was the guy who said "I am here to kill Gemma nuggets" at all times.
>>584365983>Cope actively doesn't shoot anyone downOn no planet is he going to justifiably "not be fond of someone who can't really be trusted to watch [anyone's] back"
>>584365464It must have been a huge relief to Kate that she no longer had to babysit two flights when Rex started slaughtering Sotoans left right and centre. The dialogue up until mission 4 was that Queen fight was having to do all the heavy lifting and were at their breaking point.>>584365782Cope was a cunt really. What did his pacifism do? Cause through his unwillingness to fight the death of two whole squadrons. Tasha came to realize that despite his fancy flying he was a false idol and the people who were worth looking up to were the ones willing to fight to save others. Thus Kate was a proper role model for her and when she thought she lost her it was perfectly reasonable for it to have a bigger impact.
>>584366607You know what really bothers me? Mission 20ish>Kate loses vasquez>Tasha and coster get bailed out by wings, who single handedly flies in and shoots down shadow 99 and shadow 100 flights>RTB>Draws the 5 wings graffiti>The fifth wing might be copeI was so fucking upset when they made her utter that lineWhat am I, chopped liver?
How do you think pink girl, black bro and weeb manchild would have fared in the intercontinental war?
Still not seeing any holes
>>584365998Coster is such a nothing character I forget he even exists sometimes. The way the devs care so little about giving him a personality by pushing him to the side like "oh he's just a broody introverted guy who doesn't talk much" is silly, just like his hair. And the way they try to make you care about him by giving him a mental breakdown during the retake theve mission was pathetic.What a waste of a 3D model.
>>584366976I thought the breakdown was fine, but yeah he basically disappears after that.
>>584365998I feel Coster dialogue does not match his performance in game and is unfairly treated. I am not even kidding he is the only wingman I trust till Kate joins as he tends to be the most aggressive about fighting. Like not even kidding he is the first to often use up his special weapons and appears to be more accurate with weapons. He will routinely try to pop flares if you have been locked by missiles to get them to break lock off you. Despite being a mute music autist most of the time he is the only other person in Joker flight I feel is a professional combat pilot.>>584366904Yeah the dialogue is definitely all over the place. No idea if its a mistranslation or what. There should have been even bigger follow up on the fact that Rex just fucking clapped cheeks as well.
>>584365998Baxter and Coster are talented wingmen - Baxter clearly knew how to dogfight and throughout the game shoots down people and has lines about his prowess while Coster even when he was watching Tasha's back basically becomes a talented pilot/wingmen from it. Early on he shoots down people during Drinwich Airfield that were ontop of Tasha and during Thousand Points of Light Shadow-22 remarks on his talent
>>584365782Cope wasn't a bad dude, but I assume the rest of the were jaded about his style. Your country stands on the verge of defeat, your carrier is down to 8 aircraft and half of them are used by a guy who became a propaganda symbol but actually runs away from everything and his 3 babysitters. By the time Rex introduced himself to the Jokers, Baxter probably thought "Well whatever, this shit can't get worse anyway"
>>584366976No it was cool seeing him unravel and talk more after he loses more and more friends
I'll be honest I don't like Tasha and Coster basically riding off of Rex's deeds. I'll give Kate a pass because she pulls her weight at least. But Rex basically does everything himself. I don't expect Trigger level hero worship/fear but let Rex have somehing.
>>584367105Yeah dealer puts you on your pedestal and what does Tasha say"Omg I don't know what to say to Kate"Bitch if it weren't for me you'd be in my head haunting me alongside cope
>>584367139Yes that works for a character you actually give a shit about, who the fuck is coster at that point besides "my favorite band died and I make awkward orbiter remarks to Tasha once every mission"
Apparently even scrambles can go up to difficulty level 3.
<<I've brought you a bandit, Ray!>>
>>584367243Yeah but their performance increases with yours>Engage more targets>Get more great tailing angles>Combine with cover formationAnd they'll have way more time on target, scramble way more missile locks for you, and incidentally shoot down way more distraction drones and secondary targets with youThey're perfectly fine
>>584367606Yeah, your squadron definitely learns throughout the game. But when they were with Cope before Rex, they were almost useless.
>>584367548I'm kinda glad they ditched that shit after mission 9 (8?)But it was bizarre that it happened in the first place
>>584367548>"my favorite band died and I make awkward orbiter remarks to Tasha once every mission"yeah he's literally me
>>584366972Tunnel are the only holes you'll be going into with this lifestyle
>>584367716I don't think that's a thingI just genuinely think cover command is the only good formation in the game in that it has a lot of utility
>>584367908I'm not talking about in actual mechanics, I mean story-wise.
Hey, is it just me or the servers are shitting the bed a lot?
>>584367583I have only ever gotten level 3 Scrambles and level 1 Assault / Warfare. I wonder what determines the difficulty.>>584367602What triggers this?When it happened the first time I loved it
>>584368048Well story wise>They keep up with you>Don't really die for how much bullshit happens around wingsThey're always pretty good
>>584366904She's saying the fifth wing is Cope instead of herself, Tasha was asking if Kate was the fifth.
>>584368320I think just setting them to cover
>>584368320>>I wonder what determines the difficulty.Probably the same thing that determines when you get blueprintsA healthy dose of "fuck you keep playing this chore ass mode every day"
>>584366935Do you mean the Continental War i.e. the first Erusean slap fight? Baxter would have probably survived in fact he may even have been in that war though need to check the timeline? The kids would have gotten themselves killed unless they were seriously disciplined and made to understand that the war was no joke since unlike the Sotoans the Eruseans actually know how to fight and don't fuck around.>>584367406Tasha needed words of comfort of her own but also a talking to as in something to bring home that what they did nearly got everyone including themselves killed. Though it does feel that happened offscreen with Kate joining as both Tasha and Coster seem to immediately become a lot more professional when she is around.
>>584368397I like how none of your answers make any fucking sense by any logicI'm not saying it's a you thing but it's 100% consistent with the storytelling in that moment
>best characters in the game (Kate, Baxter, Cope and Tewy) are all boomers>zoomer characters with the exception of DD are all bland and uninterestingUnc Combat
>if you don't answer to baxter while he's limping towards the carrier, he crashes and dies and gives you a mission failuredidn't expect that
>>584368668It doesn't even make sense with Kate either>Always promotes expression and conversations>Always shoots down banter and petty squabbling>Always prioritizes survival first and the mission secondShe's hardly a hard ass, she's just not stupid
>>584368737imagine an alternate timeline where Rex was so focused on making sure Baxter lands on the carrier that he ended up crashing into the bridge
>>584368725In AC9 I want to see at least one proper side character who gets an arc
>>584325437>Boots on the ground>With all of the shit that Strangereal has Sounds almost like a horror movie with having to dodge shit like swarm drones, quadcopters, etc.
>>584368992A lot of the character writing decisions reminds me of the issue I felt AC7 where the game itself was like several incomplete different scripts all meshed together into one without any thought for coherency.
Stick with Trigger and you'll make it
>>584369147Unfortunately it seems that unless you can contact Kazutoki directly and yell at him about it, the best you can expect from Ace Combat characters is they suck you off in the last third of the game.
>>584369092That would be Real Strange
>>584369298I don't mind that but I can't think of any strong arcs>GrimmWas always a kid>PixyWas always teetering on columbine>NagaseLmao>TashaGets more impulsive>KateStays perfectNobody gets a freakin character changing arc that feels great i wonder if its why >>584369223 happens Well that and the "bad anime localization" feel
Eight tough enemies... my heart's racing! My whole body's shaking!
>>584369298just arrange an unfortunate accident for katabuchi
>>584360841I don't think so? I know he was on the Aegir fleet in AC04
>>584368725DD isn't actually a zoomer, his hair's graying at the sides.
>>584369874Babel! Babel!
DD is a boomer with the soul of a zoomer.
>>584369216>Game has you play as the Immortals>You keep wanting to die but consistently fail to do so while accomplishing impossible feats like charging Sotoans with nothing but axes through the corridors of a land battleship and surviving direct airstrikes you've called on your position
>>584370127I totally hit that barricaded gate with precision and not an AO saturating MPBM
>>584369651Pixy actually does have a strong arc, but in newer games the only character that does have a proper arc is DD in 8
>>584369147Granted it's been a while since I've played the older titles, but I think this game has the strongest cast of side characters.DD goes from AI generated propagandist to Enso truther Cope starts out competent, but aloof and bored, then grows and starts taking his job seriously as wingman, using comms, no music, etcTasha is a happy go lucky stunt pilot who learns the horrors of warBaxter is the seasoned vet who passes the baton
>>584370127>Launch several SODs that run directly over the Immortals>Visibly see their blips saturated with carpet explosions>They're all still there completely unfazedThose fuckers can really just tank anything can they
>>584370330"He was validated and based all along" is just a reward for his perseveranceAnd it is rewarding, but I dunno it just barely feels like an arc that he was right all along
>>584368668>Do you mean the Continental War i.e. the first Erusean slap fight?lmao I was actually thinking of the AC5 war but clearly I'm a dumbass
>>584370382>CopeYou mean costerI dunno him bring all obsessive because Baxter said so is weird as fuck
>>584370382Kate goes from disillusioned professional to wife
>>584369651If they were going to do the whole interactive cutscenes that the first chunk of the game was plagued with then it felt like a missed opportunity to not have Tasha and Coster being moulded more by your actions where depending on how you interact with them they either become mini-Rex psychos or remain a bit more innocent by the end. Kate should still crush your pelvis muscles regardless of outcome.>>584370329>>584370509>Immortals: << Come on Wings! Drop your payload and take these Sotoan dogs with us! We'll see you in Valhalla! >>>Bombs drop and hit everything but the Immortals>Immortals: << Wings you fucks stop doing the impossible and saving us! >>
>>584370960>Disillusioned professionalShe literally never loses her way
I liked Coster, I think his quietness was a good contrast to Tasha's yapperbox and Baxter's quipping. Anytime he spoke I felt like whatever he wanted to say really mattered to him, and the quiet shtick was sometimes funny anyways.He's also good at his job.
>>584371012I was watching my brother play and he's not quite as good as me (jackpot 9 died) and in that mission the deckhand guy progressively gets more desperate the worse you do to the point of being all "pray to wings"I find it amusing that the harder you sweep the less reliable he thinks wings is
>>584368689That was my only post this thread so idk what other answers you're talking about. I thought you were griping about Rex somehow getting excluded from the emblem. If it was just about Kate drawing it then right after Rex was the only one who did shit in the last mission, then yeah that definitely felt off.
>>584371368>not quite as good as me (jackpot 9 died)You know, jp9 dead or survive depend only from land targets in her zone? And there need literally 0 skill to down few ground targets?So you just metafuck while he play blind.
ACOnline sortie but there are a million enemies and your entire squadron can show up to assist
>>584371531You're answering in the game's logic/interpretation>TashaAre you the fifth wing?>KateCope might beTo which I say>What in the actual fuck are you saying
>>584371674Why are you ESLYou can pretty easily save Jackpot 9 without knowing anything ahead of time just by killing things really fast, I did it purely on accident the first time, only found out she could die after the fact
The Journey Home still makes me cry every time I listen to it
>>584371674Nice try you retard but I can't "meta fuck" if I played blind and also incidentally didn't let her die Im just better than him at ace combat because I play more ace combat, there's no shame in that
Two games in a row I get matched with this Szeras faggot and his 4 stack who all spam TLS. Half my team leaves when they see who we matched against.
>>584370815Circum-Pacific War? Scinfaxi would nuke them.
>>584371862Bcs not borned in english-speaking country? Why you so retarded lmao.>You can pretty easily save Jackpot 9 without knowing anything ahead of time just by killing things really fastNo. You can save by rng if you pick one of 3 orange groups while not following your orders - support ground in city. You can't clear city + all 3 oranges before timer gone.
>>584371880I cry even harder knowjng they could unfuck pops telling everyone who's just assembled together to shut the fuck up while he briefs us on how to stop the SOLG
>>584371862English is a shit language. I hate having to speak it.
>>584372138Mission 26 bud
>>584365782Tasha reacts differently depending on your answer, by the way.
>>584371970Yeah Cope harder.
>>584365998>Conscripted astronaut, not actual military in the usual sense.He knows the Newfield island guys and trained with them, so he's more than just an astronaut. Probably a reservist given that he also had time to teach at university
>>584372123>Not bornedOh my wings someone needs to be on the next bus back to the fields>Listen to chatter>Understand how and when to step on the gas>Obliterate red targets in a radial pattern based on where the soft escort target isLiterally the only reason you can't get an S in these kinds of missions is a lack of good attack angles and tunnel visionBoth of which are inherent skillsThe idea that people like you think one needs to meta game to organically reach a conclusion in a Frankly well designed progression chain is sad as fuck dude
>ESL>is a miserable and literal retardEvery fuckin time.
>>584372123>rngjust bring bombs and don't be a shitter lmao
>>584372202Yeah but the great coalition of peace had a way cooler setupI was so hyped watching that intercut between cutscene, gameplay, and everything up until the briefingIt's iconic, but also iconically scuffed
>>584372754>>584372754>>584372754>>584372754
>>584372472>get an Sjp9 not depended on rank you retard.And rank depend on points, so kill more = rank higher.Also look like you so proud with your S. While even person who first time playing ac series can make S just playing campaign, with kbm on top.
I lost respect for Coster after Mission 8. Like, I get that hearing that Purple Magic just got shredded by railguns would hurt, but he broke off from formation and almost got himself killed. And then he doesn't really do anything special for the rest of the game, other than declaring himself to be your new wingman after Baxter and Kate are gone. I didn't hate him, but he was just "that other guy" for most of the game.
>>584373076Can't comprehend the fact that prioritizing red targets with immense point value contributes to the success of the mission in the storytelling and incidentally getting an SThe fact that you think they're mutually exclusive, I mean I can only say one thing to that>Lmao
>>584373386>The fact that you think they're mutually exclusiveAnd now you just drag this from your ass.Go suck some dicks and get chill, idk.
>>584373120And he almost got Tasha killed getting himself killed
>>584373558Go be a foreigner where they can understand what you're saying lolYoure sofucking bad at cherry picking points to be upset at I can't help but rank you an SFor Shut the fuck up
>>584365062>>584365749i started crying even more with all the reinforcements but now im being filtered REALLY HARD by the shadows
>the doomstack of gigafaggotryGee, thanks game. Just what I wanted, a fullstack of TLS/ECM abusers.
>>584373752>imagine have so much pain in ass after beign slapped, so went full hurr durrLmao. Why you even come to aib.
>>584374217>TitanxravenI too enjoy booting up the game to fly the F4 phantom and get MPBM'd
>>584374332Let me rephraseI'm documenting the conditions in which immortals guy becomes softer on wingsAnd you choose to cherry pick the fact that it's impossible to accidentally prevent a side character from dying and imply it's mutually exclusive to getting an S rankYou are, and I'm sorry to say, worse than stupidYou are a foreigner, because I've never seen someone as third world as you in /vg/ in all my years
>>584345227There's no FOMO though? Sure, the Pass will eventually expire but you can buy the only thing in it that matters (Morgan Pixy) after. Rest is just login, do 2 sorties and mooch 2 e sorties off whoever, done. No need to go all tryhard on it in fact the game discourages you from wanting to win, because the more you win the higher your hidden MM skill rises, until you get to a point where you can't find matches at your level.
