Tired edish>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-71Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>584274309
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the hardest thing of gamedev isn't making the game, but making money off it.
>agent starts running linux commands that you dont know outside the current directory
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>>584359305wuh oh someone wasn't invited...
Hello anons. Some of you might remember the game, it was posted a long time ago on this board. How fast the time has passed. Engine is rewritten and stable now, I'll spare you the autism.Looking for play-testers and community members. The latest version(0.04w4) has gotten some in-game hints on recipes.- Did you get stuck? If yes, where?- When did you quit, and why?- What did you expect to happen, but didn't?- FPS and hardware?Website is: https://justablockgame.com/Download(grab alpha 0.04w4): https://justablockgame.com/downloadsWindows only, SmartScreen is going to complain because the exe isn't signed. Fuck microslop.Also I wanna add multiplayer, would you play it co-op with 2-4 friends?youtube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwUmJGVG67GX6PkSM8aFfEnYqM2xAdnb
>>584359476I’m sure the meetup will be fun for those attending but the idea anyone here is “powerful” in any way is just delusional
>>584359096tell me how to do it
Changed some colours and trying to add a combat type for events. Reworking the event windows took me like 6 hours ahaha. Pure pain.Not sure if i like the colours, but some feedback last time was that people assumed youre just some evil guy and that its too unreadable. I think the readability is better now, but i sort of went for a colour palette were you swapped from a evil guy to somebody that gets pegged by some hrtwink. Not that i mind it, but maybe others will.
>>584359950think ferrari
>>584359096Okay this isn't too bad at all, these are dead people mind you, I haven't lored it up completely yet but think 'dead in space for a few years'. I've also started figuring out how to allowing the level generator to 'create stories' like this of how people might've died, it's not really important, this is just fluff, though you'll be able to, say, cut off the hand of the captain or something in case you need it to open a security door etc, and I still need to design how to best integrate all these corpes into the creep; what the fuck happens to them once they get eaten?
>>584359982what? stop with the cryptic answers
>>584360192>what? stop with the cryptic answers
>>584359527water does not flow 0/10
According to some guy that went through new releases for a while, about half of steam’s releases are now fully or nearly fully AI, in the sense of having very obviously chatgpt art and store page text and stuff.Since nobody buys these, there are technically far less games being released than a few years ago, back to Covid levels. They are far more easily detected and less bought than asset flips.So life is good.
>>584360113i have no idea what's going on even with the explanation but it looks cool
i got an invite :D, see you guys in wyoming
I can't believe godot and apple won
>>584360579They're just models of dead people (at first they're 'standing up' just to present them and for me to look at the models, they're not going to be found standing up), and the others are all just 'how they died', one of them died from falling, the other from being stuck under a shelf/storage unit/machinery whatever, and then others died of... who knows, hunger, maybe they killed themselves, etc etc because they could hear the aliens outside the door and there was no way out.
>>584360418NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, WATER IS HARD TO IMPLEMENT ON AN INFINITE Y AXISAND IT'S ALPHA ANYWAY
>>584360484is that your game?
>>584361102i like the artstyle
>>584361129you're literally a single prompt away from proper water, no excuses
>>584359883Ever heard of a little someone called oh I don't know, maybe Eric Baron? ;) Or a certain somebody I like to call Notchy-baby? ;)
there's a meetup?
>my trash vs astra xhigh when telling her 'make it look more proportional and use anime and megaman legends as inspiration' how can it fucking figure out shit like 'yeah just add destructible buildings' but then it looks at this and goes 'yeah you know what, that's good enough'
>>584359096I've made some big pogCHAMPgress today.Sprited a few sprites, coded some code, vertexed some vertices. https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12226386I am not the creative type, but Claudia helps me with rapid idea generation.
>>584361145No, this is my game
>>584361520you're not invited josh sorry
>>584359096I've been testing out moving from static planets to an actual solar system. It makes things much more complex, which I think is actually a good thing, in the send it gives more room for progression and player learning. Performance wise, it's starting to kick my ass. I need to up my math game.Pic related is getting resources back from a tidally locked moon. I'm also adding a system to make cannons only fire during valid transfer windows between planets, but it's still very much a work in progress.
>>584361580>gelbooru.comit's kiddie porn before anyone clicks
>>584361606>toroid/halouhm, I'm interested, hello
>>584361341They don’t come here and notch is rich but not powerful; I doubt he could even get a meeting at more than half of AAA studios if he reached out.
>>584361580great stuff>>584361753meds
>>584361251Oh, code was never an issue. Minecraft's style is just a few lines of code, considering my current engine. I genuinely do not know how the implementation should work. Copying minecraft is not an option as you get infinite waterfalls on the y axis. Should I just copy minecraft?
>>584361541skill issue
Why don't i ever get an invite to anything? Am i really not important enough?
>>584361817copy minecraft finite water
greater supply + same demand = less value
>>584361837Yeah it's so good at painting on it, but then when it comes to texture and trying to get that result it just fucking falls off the third floor, trying again...
>>584361928post game you wont
>>584361817It depends on what your definition of Y axis is.
>>584361841correct, i might be able to plus 1 you if you have a vagina and are willing to suck my cock
>>584361928less value for YOU faggot we gamers we eating GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDD
hi guys ive worked in gaming and have for years, i want to help new game devs make money but i know they have basically zero budget if someone made YouTube videos covering basic marketing strategies, landing page optimization and organic growth, would that be very helpful?
>>584361964I'm done playing...Forgive me sensei... just this once....
>>584362085how about only one of those two?
>>584361712this supposed to be like stellaris?
>>584361756O’neill’s island one so a modified bernal sphere; right now this is just a generated de-facto skybox and I have to do a bunch of 3d modeling for actual buildings and foliage and stuff.I’m trying to figure out the right amount of fog to add to not be anti-soul but to make it mildly a secret until the player figures it out.
>>584362194The problem is that this already exists, but most people won't know whether you actually know what the fuck you're talking about or not, therefore, they won't want to hear it/won't trust it.Mind you, feel free to do it, I'm just saying, most of the people ITT are schizos.
>>584362225sorry it has to be both
>>584362085>the monkey’s paw curlsI’m ftm>>584362194Nah there’s tons of content on that. I need to know how to make having a booth at an event actually worth the money, how to schmooze judges for awards, et cetera.
>>584362245I see, maybe the spawn area can be right next to a pond, and you could have huge 'terraformer' (magic machines) that creates localized weathers over the ring, and clouds too while you're at it, good luck bub
Alright, all the invites should be sent by now for this year's meet-up. If you didn't get a notification, there is either no clear way to contact you or your game just isn't complete or compelling enough.As always accomodations will be provided for the week, but if you have financial difficulty with travel costs, there are instructions in the email for what assistance is available. Betz and Joshua have been banned from the meetup. Fygoon was contacted but declined. Looking forward to seeing you all again and some of you for the first time :)-N
>>584362021infinite chunks on the Y, because I have cubic chunks.>>584362194won't really help, there are plenty of videos like that. $0 marketing is a pain, if someone big doesn't cover your game.
>>584362465>I’m ftm
>>584362508uhm, excuse me, why was there dolphin porn with my invite?also, can we discuss the last meetup and the cum cookies incident?
>>584362496> 'terraformer' (magic machines)Oh I like that
>>584362356schizos i bet make really cool fucking games the issue ive seen is>people who make games are hyper creatives>hyper creative people dont love the idea of marketing because it seems tedious BUT, i get your point, resources might already be there but the implementation is boring. >>584362465id love to help but that is a hyper specific question and id need so much context >>584362569yeah makes sense and i completely get that HMMM, okay back to drawing board, ill think of something that would help.
>>584361712Nice Stellaris clone
>>584359137>the hardest thing of gamedev isn't making a bad game, but making a good game
>>584359981i like your game, it inspired this track for your gifplease use it if you want https://vocaroo.com/1af31QUTwdB9
>>584360261why wont u say what the trick is?
>>584362816>random xitter poster queefing and crying
>>584362816
>>584362769>schizos i bet make really cool fucking gamesPretty much all my favorite games are all made by mentally ill retards, so, yes, I agree with this part, but that's not what I'm referring to, it's not the quality or potential that is the problem, but the 'how do you reach them' that is, since that's what your question boils down to. I don't think anyone here will respect you until you prove yourself, no matter what, though.
>>584362815I thought Stellaris was a 4X big map game. Is there some other game?
>>584361712Fuck me man, now I want to work on my space game even more REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEThis looks great, I'm definitely shilling your game to my friends, this is right up our alley.
fubitch
Which Engine is more Codex/Claude Code friendly?Godot or Unity?>inb4 learn to codeI am a software engineer, That's why instead of coding myself I want my little robot friend which I will just check on instead of doing the shit after 8+ hour of starting at my computer
>>584363006think ferrari
>>584363026wtf >>584363043Getting my hopes up as a schizo retard
>>584363218godot, unity when the new version comes out
>>584363279what am i supposed to do with that?what's the difference between you saying that and saying "turtle balls"?
>>584363218No engines, no frameworks -emdash- just rawdog HTML canvas.
>>584363043>how do you reach themThis at its core, is a creative problem If we concede that more games are coming out and the differential will likely be the awareness, then that becomes VERY important. The other thing is this is also a lot easier than you guys think because if the average game developer doesnt like marketing, then getting decent at it has a huge ROIanother huge tip id give you all is you can afford to be not as standard in your marketing approach. you can have esoteric landing pages, you can have more avant garde trailers when youre a solo dev >I don't think anyone here will respect you until you prove yourself, no matter what, though.Ive launched a ton of games, huge titles and small
>>584363218godot
Muse spark, please add trading cards to my game. Yep, no mistakes this time.
>>584363408you're not thinking ferrari
marketing is over, it's just how you get your game stolen now. the new play is to just shadowdrop your game.
>>584359981the ui colors still seem pretty evil
>forgot to add 'don't make mistakes' to my promptall those years getting a degree in prompt design, to make such a foolish error
>>584363218I think the questions is more along the lines of: what does your game need.Which engine would YOU use, I think claude is going to be just as capable of using godot than unity: but godot is faster.Godot allows claude or gpt to work on it directly at breakneck speed, no need to start a dozen editors or anything, it just edits the files and let's fucking go.So if your game is simple enough and you want to iterate fast: godotIf you care more about quality and less spending 20 hours a day prompting new shit every 5-20minutes: unityThat's been my experience at least.
>>584363635I was ahead of the curve all along!
>>584363130Thanks anon, I've got along way to go for it to be a real game and not a tech demo.
>>584363635Shadowdropping your game can also get your game stolen. You need to make your game and 1. hope noone else wants to spend the time you did2. hope that person has less taste and love for it than you doAnd do all that while still marketing, or you will have no wishlist/hype and your game will be forgotten.If you didn't spend time on it, and didn't have taste and love, you were never gonna make it anyway.
>>584363792You're going to make it bruh, trust me this looks very cool and unique.Don't stop now.
I made no progress on my game this week because I WAS TOO BUSY KISSING MY BOYFRIEND WHOM I LOVE VERY VERY MUCH!CALL ME A NODEV, WILL YOU? GUILTY AS CHARGED!
>>584363218Claude code is going to be friendly with any of them.Codex is owned by musk so it’s inherently sketchy
>>584363974go to bant
>>584359981>>584360113>>584361712Yoink ;) Thanks anons hehe smell ya later
>>584363635>marketing is overThank god.
>>584363974b-b-b-b-b-b-b-BASED
Friendly reminder that great artists steal, while cucks are stolen from.
>>5843639103. Literally just do something AI can’t do yet, AKA 3D with high quality non-marketplace assetsYou have like 3-5 years left until the models can do this.
>>584363635interestinggggso you guys are hyper worried about someone just stealing it, is the stealing possible just from a trailer? and the idea is they take it to market faster?
>>584364181true that's why i use claude for art
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>>584364093No I won't do that, because you'll be able to track my previous posts by my ID (some of which contain proggy from the past week) and thusly make fun of my game for having a faggot dev.
>>584364213AI tools can now just look at your trailer/screenshots and clone it. They obviously won't be exactly the same though. There are even subhumans just scrapping tags like #gamedev and #screenshotsaturday and having their AI make games based off the data.
>>584364213AI bros claim they can reverse engineer anything from just a trailer, or worse a binaryhttps://github.com/morluto/rea
>>584364415i'm willing to bet half my current blood you don't have a game
>>584364415we love gay people here
Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.About 700 games in the week around your release.AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2026HahahahahaH O B B YOBBY
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>>584364441Just make cinematic conceptual trailers like Larian does.
>>584364419>>584364441wow thats fucking crazy, that is going to disrupt the fuck out of marketing lol you have a couple of options then>document this process on social media and build a following so you win the optics of it all >wouldnt a multiplayer game get around this to some degree? fuck that is a weird issue idk brosmy guess is the solution will be some sort of new awareness channel, new website or maybe Steam does it >launch your game on it>it moves up and down like a stock based on rating>people test it and decide if they wanna wishlist to follow the dev journey but it basically doesnt prevent someone from taking that ideaidk im rambling but that is fucking wild
Ugh, well, while the clankers are working, I guess it's time for the retarded argument of the evening!>but they'll reverse engineer my gameWho the fuck would do that?Are you rockstar?Are you squeenix, or blizzard? Who the fuck are you?Why do you think your game deserves to be reverse engineered?This costs tokens, you think they're going to spend money reverse engineering your no-name game? >But I have a following and I'm big in the field alreadyThen what the fuck is the problem?Why are people so fucking low IQ, and why is it always the anti-AI niggers, I can't help but see the dots here.
>>584364480>>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2026>Hahahahaha
>>584364704god i can smell your BO
>>584362465>I’m ftmGalduen status? jk
>>584364704>Nooooooo! All of you are shit devs just like me! You can't make anything someone would want to play!!
retard question but how close is AI to getting human like bots in most games like if someone makes Team Fortress 2 on their own, how close is Ai to being able to make bots seem like human players
>>584364823Good I fucking hope so, I haven't showered in two weeks you stupid retard, you know why?Because I made it and I don't even need to go outside anymore, I get all my shit delivered because I'm rich you stupid nigger, now stop whining and provide actual argumentation so I can make fun of you some more.>>584364929See the point above you stupid troon, provide actual argumentation instead of projecting your low quality values.
>>584364704it's you who is the retard. You're working on the premise that it costs, but the cost is *extremely* low, which is why it's so rampant. (I've done it to roughly 3 games here in the past week).>Yeah, let's grab that feature from here and this one from thereWhoop de doo, I got myself a bideo game. :) And there's nothing anyone can do about it.
>>584365020Would cost way too much money right now, maybe in a few years (but it'd still be a big drain of resources). I could see this being real if, say, you proposed a sub 'for 20$ a month you get to play with bots' but I don't think that'd be a smart plan long term. But it'll get cheaper. Maybe local model-powered bots is more likely.
>>584365020depends, currently you could put an llm into the game to control the human but it looks retarded, see portal llm gameplaythe other way is to define everything and probably you could do better by using an llm to do it but still it's way off for fooling anyone
>>584365079But it doesn't matter if it's low you mongoloid, it takes time, so what's the point?If there's 30000 games released everyday, you think you'll have the time to do this shit?God you're so retarded you can't even larp as your side correctly, holy fuck.
>>584365145>>584365174so currently one of the options to separate from other games is still selling the community your game has no point in stealing a competitors game if you dont have their playerbase only thing i can think of on the spot that maybe helps
>>584365031>Good I fucking hope so, I haven't showered in two weeks you stupid retard, you know why?i could tell by what you post
Ok I want to work on my game but my girlfriend is coming over in an hour or so.I used to dream about having a girlfriend and now I don't want her here. But getting a girlfriend was so fucking hard I don't want to piss her off and be going through all that bullshit again. I got an hour
>>584364464I'd love to take your blood but you can keep it, I'm too embarassed to faggotpost and expose my game at the same time. Blame my conservative upbringing. I'd probably get out of double digit wishlist territory if I could be more open about this shit and attract more attention. Fuck this, I wanted to be an indie dev not a bluesky faggot clown dancing for nigger troons' pleasure.
>>584365020>>584365145Kind of surprised this didn't make a bigger splash here
Hey cris just wondering why you didn't reply to me on /pol/.Because of this I've decided to start working on my game on aggy again.Now that my life and career (I dropped out of my PhD over AI) is it's over now'd I've decided to hard focus on my only true talent: being schizophrenic and able to control vast amounts of schizo energy to the level of near divinity.I have to restart my entire life, I'm waging as a plumber apprentice now literally getting real human shit on me, so I might as well restart my /agdg/ arc.Oh don't worry as revenge against AI I've been spending an excessive amount of time overly formalizing AI in terse mathematical terms like endomorphisms that CStards can't understand and I intend to publish everything.>inb4 why quit you phd dr. schizok?it's ok I left with a masters.>inb4 what is your game post 'gressvid rel is me making 'gress gud nuh chuddie?
>>584365020That's always been possible, engineers just haven't done it for some reason. I guess because making super strong unbeatable opponents is more exciting? I don't really know. But you have always been able to train in various directions instead of just "beat everyone always".If I were someone like the Crusader Kings or Civ guys I would have been doing this with telemetry for a long-ass time. Use clustering to get 'kinds' of players, now you have different sorts of personalities involved at a much finer level than "Easy, Medium, Difficult"
>>584365247They can easily filter by whichever games are getting attention, why are you assuming it's going to happen to 30000 games? It's already hard enough to make a good game, and if you do you now also have to worry about it just getting taken.
>>584365336but that's what you have become by posting faggot shit, it's too late you are pozzed
>>584365324You can have a meaningful personal relationship or you can have a game. Pick one.
>>584365350Because anyone with a brain realizes how stupid this is and it's just a marketing stunt.The system is fine, I do believe this is the future btw, I WANT to be able to play my games with smart bots and AI, long term I 10000% want my own 'ai companion' with memories together etc, and I want to be able to play games with them, but this isn't it, too early, too costly.
>immediate noticeable drop in thread quality>check clock>ameriburgerfattardswallmartsharters just got home from their second job
>>584365324masturbate before she arrives and don't clean up to assert dominance
>>584365459Nope, that's my current persona that is completely detached from my game. Tomorrow I will wake up sober and work on my game and not a single hint of subhuman faggotry will besmirch my progress.
>>584365531How did you know? (at least we're employed)
>>584365531Yeah it's always on a clock, if anything I kinda wish they'd just use AI, they'd provide better arguments, like fuck I'm enjoying arguing against grok more than whatever retardation they keep blabbering on about
>>584365324Have AI do all the work while you sit in the corner idea-guy'ing
ok another retard questionwhy arent people just pumping out niche fetish ai porn games on steam? i had this idea>those desktop companions game>but its a feeder game and they get fatter>maybe to furries
>>584365350i was going to have a bot play it to drain his tokens but i thought better of it, guys retarded enough
>>584365750you're spiritually indian lol they don't believe in social contracts
>>584365406crusader kings already has personalities and traits/age/standing/realm effect them
>>584365409Then if you already have attention, you're already ahead of them you absolute fucking troon, why--what's going on here, is it the estrogen in the water that makes you think like a woman?Did your logical brain not form correctly maybe?
>>584365645nah you're pozzed mate
Added depth correction, now time to add procedural generation
you guys have one of the most unique marketing problems ive ever seen im not sure what the answer is entirely but its not obvious either way
>>584365725It's cheaper to make an AI fetish twitter account.
>>584365725because recently, karens got to power and got to ask mastercard to pressure steam into pushing big regulations on porn gamesit's that simple, it's just 'less secure' than it was before and so it's harder to decide to just do that long term because you don't know when the hammer could dropuntil america isn't finally rid of its retarded puritanism, we're not going to be allowed to have nice things
What's your experience with having an agent build tools/level builders that you can then use to make assets/levels? I don't know if its a dumb idea
>>584365867not to steal his tokens to use for something else, just to waste them and cost him money
>>584365897You absolute dummy, think before you ever reply to me again.Yes, I'm well aware of that, but they still don't act the way a player would. Please try and follow the conversation more closely in the future, and read over anything you write before posting to make sure you aren't being completely retarded and wasting everyone's time.
>>584365725>why arent people just pumping out niche fetish ai porn games on steam?Try it and find out why>10k people who would be into your niche fetish porn game will never hear about it because you didn't spend enormous amounts of money marketing>the other 5k would rather just jerk off to their commissioned art fursonas being fucked by Sonic the hedgehog
>>584366321>You absolute dummy, think before you ever reply to me again.shant
>>584366051why not just do full 3d rendering?
>>584365990Enjoy rushing to release before the slop cloneEnjoy people assuming the clone came firstEnjoy people thinking the slop is your game and the slop versions issues being your responsibilityIt's almost like IP laws exist for a reason, which your brain can't wrap it's head around. This indicates you've never actually made anything before.
for all the newfriends with FOMO that are rushing to make something "before the market gets flooded" realize that nothing will change, shit games will sink to the bottom, and most people are just gonna mess around instead of committing to a single project and finish itSo don't be these two
>>584365531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOx_iIAEbGA
>>584366051>pedoblud invented textures in a 3d transform
Using AI to emulate "human-like players" is a retarded idea for most genres. Players love predictability in games with singleplayer focus. If they wanted to fight human-like entities, they'd play multiplayer.See RimTalk for a good use of AI in singlepalyer.
>>584366608nobody asked you pedotroonbrownoid
>>584366443>retarded kike unironically shilling IP lawsShut the fuck up chang, get off the western man's internet, cao ni ma and all that, faggot.
>>584366608dumbfuck
<20 more prompts and my current game is done
why is he having a meltie over that particular post
Why have none of you faggots vibecoded an app that converts video to .webm under 3MB or whatever filesize yet
>>584367095whomst?
>>584366608I don't completely disagree with your assessment (except rimtalk, rimtalk is pretty trash and not deep enough, way too 'cosmetic'), but the main issue with multiplayer now is that... are you sure you're playing against a player?And even if it's a player; can you be for certain he's not cheating?It's less of a problem depending on the genre of game, ofc, but now cheating is going to explode in popularity, maybe AI from the studio will be able to keep up with it but I don't see that happening. So, we're kind of at a dead end when it comes to competitive gaming, and that I think is what will lead to people wanting to play against 'seemingly real people' but knowing they're not actually cheating. Not only that, but it kind of depends on the game, say you're playing borderlands, wouldn't it be more fun if the enemy was capable of coming up with new lines on the fly? What if it's based on what you're wearing or what gun you're using, or even if it's an enemy you saw before then maybe it's going to be using the nemesis system™ etc I don't know, it's going to get interesting nonetheless.
>>584367279>are you sure you're playing against a player?I only play games in which you can chat and say nigger
>>584367104I have tho.
>>584367363so postal 2 MP and nothing else?
>>584364480I'll do itYou'll see
>>584362862Thank you. The song sadly doesnt fit what i imagine. When i get around to the tracks id like to try something microtonal. Something like this around the 1:10 mark https://youtu.be/FZlZE4hLLhs But considering i never tried making music for more than an hour, itll end up really shitty.>>584363668Ah true.>>584364103Nyo >w<>>584363974Only good reason to be a nodev.
>>584366564t. amerifat
>>584367502https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVbXRp3-l-g
>>584364704the real question is why the average IQ is so low, but I need to inform you that you seem like you require yourself to write several swears or offenses per-postalso, I don't disagree with you>>584365079you can clone my favorite video games 10 times and I'll play them all if they are high enough qualitythe problem is, they are notmost people do not possess the level of passion and care along with the level of intellect required to spend the right level of attention on the right things, and make a good productI have done many portfolio studies of awful (subjective) game design and potential suggested solutions and problems of either implementing or not implementing themand like people, the majority of products are absolutely lacking in most areas of design philosophiesthe most common thing is conflicting systemsthe reality is that gpt is not currently able to do those thingsit is possible to improve to that point, but it's not this year, or next yearI've said this in the past, but there are a lot of other fields of machine learning that are going to have certain effects on the world before that time comes
>hurr de durr oh look at me I use 4cha-cha and dickcord>I can convert video gooby gooby poo poo
i vibe code unity editor tools to help make my game faster
>>584367486microtonal sounds bad 99% of the time but other than its basically the same style, i call it minecraft slop
>>584366564I care, you faggots coming in instantly drop the average IQ of anything being discussed by 20 points at least.You can come and lurk, just shut the fuck up.
>584367659didn't read
>>584367763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwpG2B6j2Fw
>>584367659Offensive is what I am, it's what I do. I also have no reasons to show any respect to the likes of them, which makes being offensive and calling them the big nono words very easily, and fitting.
>>584367786didn't, or can't?
>>584367982i can't read obviously
>>584367974agreed, neither do II'm fine with dick in my mouth, but only if you switch to a cute anime girl avatar
>>584367763yeah 90% of them are all trumptards or unironic stalinistsalways on the extreme, just like their weight
>>584358675I made a tool with Claude that generate music for your game for free.Please check it bros, https://estudia-lab.com/en/Share some songs here
>>584367737Fair opinion. Im just not that picky in regards to music. I can warm up to most things presented.
>>584366182This is basically the only thing I use ai for since I hate webshittery. Just made me a CRUD ui for defining new spells so I don’t have to do it in unreal’s ugly datatables.
>>584368335you probably collect information
>>584368335Yoink ;) Thanks anon hehe, smell ya later
>>584367104Because ffmpeg already exists?
>>584367104I did as well, more important question is, why tf did you not, it's literally a single prompt application
>785 Mib across 26 abandoned projects spread across 7 Godot games, 8 Raylib C games, 3 Rust games, 2 Odin games, 1 Unity game, and 5 Python trash games>first one dates to 2017IT'S OVER I¨M BUYING THE ROP ENOW
>no ricardo option in any of these web-them makersshamefur dispray
Mmmh...08?15?
>>584359096>>584367279>except rimtalk, rimtalk is pretty trash and not deep enough, way too 'cosmetic'Conceptually, it's sound.In a world with infinite processing power, you'd expect Tynan to implement something like that himself.>Not only that, but it kind of depends on the game, say you're playing borderlands, wouldn't it be more fun if the enemy was capable of coming up with new lines on the fly? What if it's based on what you're wearing or what gun you're using, or even if it's an enemy you saw before then maybe it's going to be using the nemesis system™ etc Well, that's the idea of RimTalk, generating dialogue based on deep context.>I think is what will lead to people wanting to play against 'seemingly real people' but knowing they're not actually cheating. I don't really know about that. I think the idea that you're playing against a neural network makes it feel pointless.Right now, you could probably emulate an /agdg/ thread populated just with AI bots with persistent personalities, names, projects, goals, etc.Would you prefer that over coming here and talking to real humans?If you don't care about the social aspect aspect, we already have moderately convincing and very competent bots in multiplayer games where the AI does not have to cheat to compete with even good players, e.g. AoE 2 and Dota 2, yet barely anyone cares.
>find asset that’s like exactly what I need but it’s $2000 for studio use>there’s a torrent of itThe temptation to just change it a bit and try my luck is unreal.
>>584368335bro, the volume bar should be on the bottom next to the play button, come on now
>>584369301check if they ever sold it on humble bundle: they basically have zero way to figure out if you're the one that bought it or not anymore
>>5843642073-5 months more like it
I need a UI pass. I did try to knock some animations out. Combat still looks jank. But I like the game when it is still, sometimes.
>>584368335Why would I use this instead of suno?
>>584369524nice stolen icon art
>>584369524where's the game?
>>584368335It's the exact same melody no matter the seed. Total shit
>>584369524OVER BUDGET
>>584369524so this is the power of unreal engine...
>>584369426Nothing like that unfortunately >>584369487Nah I’ve been following the progression of 3d pretty closely and they aren’t getting there anytime soon. They haven’t even started trying to figure out hair or quadrupeds.>>584368335>capped at 240bpm
uhhhh, jonny blowie status?
>>584370334entirely uninterested in it
>>584369325it's the first slider in the screen>>584369543its totally free, you generate 10k songs if you want>>584369867try to select the instruments you want>>584370267i'll fix thatYou can also share codesAg4CADyAAAaDsCg
>>584369256>rimtalkMy main gripe with rimtalk is that it's... not doing anything. It creates noise. You can install a dozen different addons, which might or might not work with your version of the game to try to make it interact with the game more: but then what?It's not bad, but the potential is nowhere near reached. A good rimtalk would take control of the narrator on top of just adding a voice to your pawns, there needs to be a link there. >generating dialogue based on deep context.Yeah, but that's the point, in a game like borderlands, the pawn is something you shoot at and you don't care about him more than that, you just fuck him up -> next one. It's fine for a cosmetic addition here, it makes sense, but in rimworld, you're supposed to care for the little faggots, they're not just a number, you work with them, you give them life, you save them, this is important, which makes the 'cosmetic only' addition all the more jarring. >I think the idea that you're playing against a neural network makes it feel pointless.I don't see the difference with playing against a script in any other games. Yet most people enjoy that. >Would you prefer that over coming here and talking to real humans?What tells me you're not, already?Why would that change anything, I don't know man, I don't have the same perception that you have, I do not care about whether I'm interacting with A or Y, it's kind of... the soul of 4chan. Why do you think we're anonymous?Why should I care whether it's an AI I'm speaking to or a human?As I said, I've had deeper and better arguments and conversations that had me actually thinking with fucking grok than I have had with some of the retards ITT; what does that mean?>yet barely anyone cares.I think people care a lot, people just don't care about these games because... who the fuck plays RTS games in 2026 lol
>>584370334unless he borrowed the money, it's all gravy
>>584370468Only one melody per instrument? Still shit
>>584370468>it's the first slider in the screenThat's my point you numbnut, why would I create a song and have to scroll down to play it, and then have to go back up to adjust the volume, what the fuck.Tell claude to use spotify's UI as an example or something.
>>584366367Because reinventing the wheel is fun sometimes and I wanted to learn how meshes in Love2D worked
>>584370621ah ok what will you do with that knowledge now?
>>584368927I feel you broSpending your best years (and the silver era of indie) without any success is hard, maybe its time to graduate gamedev?But what to do then? There is nothing I can do besides it, neither am interested in
>>584370837>But what to do then?I've been thinking about picking up home improvement as a skill. Learning to build shit around the house, do some electrical and plumbing work, gardening etc
>>584370592do you mean every song you generate need to have a volume bar?
>>584358675She's so cute....
>>584371089those are good skills to have, it generally increases the value of properties
>>584370734see how large of a map I can make before I run into slowdowns since the framework is fairly fast.
>>584371089Already do this shit, its nice to build real things but this does not scratch the same itch as devving
Will your game be done in 6 months?a year?2 years?5 years?
>>584370267Guess it depends on what kind of 3D models you're making. I've been getting it to put out tanks that would look right at home in warthunder or something
tell me straight, guysis it over for solodevs with this AI that reverse engineer and mashes together game engines?do I need to jump on the slop bandwagon now?
>>584371424there is no frame limit to map size; when optimized properly, the memory and storage are the limiting factorsthat sounds like a waste of focus
>>584371870it will be in EA in 2 months. I'll continue working on it only if it gets traction
>>5843718701 month, probably.But it'll probably take me another 2 to find a guy to work on the sounds and the OST.And then I'll probably take another few months to do the marketing since I'm lazy. And I'll probably be working on SCAV on the side and I'll probably pick up another 2 or 3 projects at the same time.
>>584372165no
>>584372165yes
>>584372036Oh, yeah, it’s ok at mechanical stuff that doesn’t need to deform.>>584371870Probably 5 years. There’s no point in releasing it until after the bubble pops because it will require pretty good hardware to look the way I want.
>>584372165>if
>>584370505>What tells me you're not, already?It's not that I know that I am talking to real humans, it's that I believe I am which is sufficient.>Why should I care whether it's an AI I'm speaking to or a human?Between real Bokudev and AI Bokudev, you'd probably always be more invested in real Bokudev's journey because it does not necessitate a layer of playing pretend. >As I said, I've had deeper and better arguments and conversations that had me actually thinking with fucking grok than I have had with some of the retards ITT; 'Quality' is the red herring in this discussion. The reason people prefer talking to real people (or people they believe are real) is because they want to be invested in real things. Talking to AI can be fun, and few can play pretend well enough to fool themselves that they're talking or playing against something that is genuinely invested in a project, conversation or game, but that's not the case for most people, nor do most people like that idea.>people just don't care about these games because... who the fuck plays RTS games in 2026 lolDota 2 is still very popular and has even had a very famous match between OpenAI bots and pro players 8 years ago,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBYhLttETw(the bots won both games)It would be interesting to see concurrent NNs competing against world champions to see what near-perfect level play looks like, but I've never heard from players that they'd like to play against those bots themselves.
>>584371870I've been slopping out about 2 games a month recentlyNone of them makes more than a few thousand bucks, but it's fun regardless and more than pays for the AI sub
>>584372816post em
>>584372205I liked that web 'em, mind if I save it?
>>584372816That’s really depressing, link to your most successful slopgame?
>>584372897>>584372942You guys called my game shit the last time I posted one though :(
Would you rather havea million people play your game for free, so get $0or5k people play your game, so you get $25k?Let's pretend these are the only two options and you can't jew your way into earning money for the $0 gameThere is a correct, logical answer to this btw and if I explain it you'll agree with me
>>584373074Have you tried not posting a shit game?
>>5843731311M for free because I’m doing this for positive attention and for people to pat my head and call me a smart person that did a good job.I have enough money for povertyFIRE and that’s enough.
>>584373131>5k people play your game, so you get $25k?This.
>>584373250I don't know how to make any other kindThey're fun though
>>584373131would you rather have a daughterwife and wageslave or hagwife and a game that sold 1M?
>>5843731315K for $25K easy. Those people are devoted fans who would pay 50$ for a game. The free choice is just people who play a flash game, and will just move onto the next game.
would you ratherget paid a million dollars for your gameor get bitten by a bee
>>584373480>would you rather have a daughterwife I don't need to read the rest. Skin me alive, burn me to ashes, I don't care about your conditions.Gimme gimme.
>>5843731311 millionI can get money selling merch later
>>5843731311M for freeHow are you gonna tell me I'm not gonna be able to make any money off the game's popularity? What's the point of the thought exercise. I can simply promise more content updates and people will throw money at you if your game is that popular, even if it's in the form of donations.>this dev made a hugely popular game and made no money>he would make more content and maybe a sequel, but he's poor and needs to work in a warehouse :( Donate now
>>584373596>5,000 multiplied by 50 equals 25,000I don't disagree with the logic though
>>584371870I don't know.Should I make a 6 months game or a 5 years game?
it really do be like that though
>>584372940I'll allow it, have the follow up, don't ask me about the lore, that was years ago>>584372762I don't know bro, I'm not saying this in a mean way, but my intuition screams at me that you're coping. It's all cope. You say 'they're invested in real things', but you don't know that?How can you really know that? Maybe you're young or maybe you got very lucky and never had bad experiences, but, especially in the field (but this is just bias, it's not like I've ever worked in banking for example), there's a lot of bullshitters.Mind you this was part of my job: interacting with bizdevs (aka the marketing-adjacent people that spend their time finding and making deals), and all of them are all bullshitters, to different extent, but that's just par for the course: you need to. The whole point is that you're selling a product after all; and what tells you this isn't the case in other parts of life?I'm a big bullshitter too, not out of wanting to be an asshole but I realize that a lot of people love it when people sound interested in their shit, which means I get to have a better relation with that person. Do you not do that with your gf/wife? That's also par for the course, methinks.So I don't see it that way at all, I don't think of it that way, it's pretty hard to explain though, but I guess I quantify 'quality' of a discussion based on what I can get from it. Why should I care about anything else? What else is there to care about..? If I'm speaking to a human, and we have a quality discussion because we both learn from it, this is great, this is absolutely fantastic. If it's an AI, and I can get something from it: why would I see it differently? Great. Fantastic. >DOTA 2Well this doesn't fit the discussion at all because; of course a bot will destroy you in an evenly matched game, how could they not? What's the point of an aimbot? You don't even need LLMs for this, after all.
>>584374046fukken saved
>>584373131>$25kdrop in the poop bucket
>>584374121thanks for the adventurebye, have a good one
>>584374046gaben has finally taken a stance on the slop?
>>584374046KEK
>>584374389The disclosure is the stance
>>584373596>math fail>>584373805>>584373821That's the wrong answer.And all the information you need is embedded in the question. 5k players paid $25k for it. That's what the game is worth, otherwise it'd have earned more. So if you make a sequel, chances are it will attract fewer players, because sequels usually do. So you didn't get the $25k and if you want to earn money from a second game, it's likely to earn the same amount of money or less for the same effort.
>>584374679>That's the wrong answer.
>>584358675>sister threads missing
is it true what they say about godot devs?
>>584374679Whats the “right” answer then o wise one?
>>584374679so it was a trick question, benchod? you are making me a fool here?
>>584374735they are free as in freedom
>>584374735What do they say about Godot devs?
>>584374735We don't slut shame here, we slut worship
>>584372762>>584374121But anyways, about the dota thing: It's not about difficulty. It's never been about difficulty.If you make a game where the hardest difficulty becomes impossible to beat: it's shit.Nobody will like it.That's the point, and that's why fromsoftware games rose above all so quickly: it's about the experience.It's not the difficulty, it's not 'just' the difficulty, it's all about 'how do I balance it to make it challenging to the player without completely destroying his anus', it's not so simple to achieve.Now, there are games where this works and some where it doesn't; but surely you've felt it, we all did; some games' hard mode is too hard, and some games' normal mode is not hard enough. What then?What if the AI could figure this out and adjust the difficulty on the fly?The rimworld's narrator is trying to do that with algorithms, 'oh the player just got fucked over by my last raid, I guess i'll chill for a second', but this is obviously limited by being code and algorithms. What if the code was written on the fly?What if you played MGS5 and then the patrols would adjust based on your pathing patterns?What if you played skyrim and the people could react to you being a werewolf AND the fact that you tried to kill them last week, rather than only one or the other? What about strategy games where you can insult a lord and start a war over it, and then have actual, real 'life-like' diplomacy going on rather than.... number on screen goes up and the bar goes green.I mean, the potential here is literally 'infinite'. This is where I see the future and why Ai is going to be so good for it.
>>584374729faggot
nobody seems to care that AI pajeets straight from the call center ghetto are stealing popular twitter indie games and just cloning them before the original devs can finish them, and realeaing the game on steam and mobile an html portals because making 5 usd per month is enough to be rich in mumbay.
>>584375019Shut the fuck up chang, you lost, this is an AI thread now.
anyone looking for an artist (AI)?
>>584375019I wonder what would be Terry's take on the recent AI slopping
>mfw my star is sinking and there's no order anymore
Should I....Add (force) manual gear shifting for the wheeled vehicles in the game..?Why the fuck do I want to do that, ugh.
>>584375272kek
>>584374937>What if you played MGS5 and then the patrols would adjust based on your pathing patterns?Aren't stealth games mainly about memorizing and predicting AI pathing?Human-level pathing adjustments would be painful for the average gamer.
>>584375019The only game I'm going to do this to is Bokube, but it'll be free, just because it will be funny. Worth the token cost.
Latest commit is uphttps://codeberg.org/FroggyGreen/rooster/src/branch/trunk>>584374945maggot
>>584375507faggot
>>584375272>>584375406You're laughing but I'm seriously considering getting one.I'm not an artist, and having to spend so much time fiddling with the AI's output is annoying, I'd rather be spending that time figuring out... well, everything else.
>>584375780i can prompt engineer for you saar
>>584375780Right now I’m just slopping placeholders everywhere and hoping I’ll be able to blow like $200k on contract work from actual artists to make it not shit in two years.
>>584375780I was just shitposting but I do a mix of actual art and AI art, been doing trad/digital for decades.Tell me a bit about your game? Scope, genre, 2D/3D, engine, etc?
if you are making a game with AI why not use C++?
>>584376036Because I’m using rust.
>>584376021this looks like one of the classic posts is incoming
>>584376036even if the AI handheld you to compile you'd still get crashes.>>584376172LMAOOOOOOOOO TROONIE JUST USE CHUDOT
>>584376021why do you need to know the engine?
>>584376230>>584376343?uh, just wondering about anon's game? Since he is looking for an artist, and I am one?
Your game will be cloned by Indians the moment you post a webm on twitter.
>>584376476wow kojima looks brown here
>>584376309No, I’m using rust with unreal in such a way that I can completely avoid blueprints and replace niagara with my own thing.
>>584376476>Your game will be cloned by Indians the moment you post a webm on /agdg/.ftfy
>>584375947Yeah I just need one that's creative and capable of dealing with whatever claude & gpt can't deal with, so textures and models really. If he can do music and sounds that's like, 10/10.>>584376021>>584360113 & pic relOne is going to be GTFO but if roguelite solo experience in space, and the other is going to be...Something, about piloting a mech and you have a handful of squads under your control and you send them to their death and you try to clear objectives, I'm kind of reworking the whole thing right now, I need to make new webms.
>>584376413but why do you need to know an engine? you're an artist, the engine is none of your business. keep your nose out of actual gamedev business if you know what's good for you
>>584376701Why is there smoke inside the cabin when you walk into it? nice effect anyhow
>>584376701Ohhhh lol it’s you. You’re never going to find a non-AI artist willing to work with a nocode non-programmer pure slopper unless you’re paying them extremely well.
>>584376701That looks pretty cool. I was just going to meme but I'm actually interested. I dabble with music and can make some sounds with synths and so on.What engine are you using, actually? I think I saw a previous game you were working on, it looked fun and a bit silly. I can't remember much about it and it could've been another anon.
progress, try cloning this
Progress:Sloppered out this shit game. You can play on browser.https://agdg-lad.itch.io/card-walkerI dont have mental energy to create a tutorial.
>>584376931Because this is going to be fixed during the polishing phase, why would you care about this while you're still working on the game?The cockpits themselves aren't finished, so there's no reason to care about this.>>584377071I think you're too retarded to have any valuable output here and I obviously have more experience in the field than you ever will be, seeing as you're just a larping nodev.
>>584377593password >agdgWriting out a post mortem
enjoy trying to slop clone my text adventure
>>584377185Well I'm still in the crazy zooming around and changing random things all the time, but if you stick around I'll probably still be looking when the project is more stable and nearing release. I'm using godot, but most of your work would be using the tools we made for the game directly (and you could just use AI to improve them as you'd need them to to fit your needs), but it's pretty close to blender, I made it as simple and intuitive as possible. And then you'd probably have to use actual blender to get finer details on other models, but yeah.
>>584377851I know how this must seem, and I really hate to say it, but unfortunately I'm just not interested in working with godot at this point.I'm sure you understand, and really. Good luck!
>>584377560Noita wand autism is so comically uninteresting and autistic it's actually insane. Yes the thing I want to do in this unique destructible physics sandbox is to go read 40 wiki pages to learn how to abuse a completely separate autism system that doesn't interact with the physics in any way
>>584377973>this looks like one of the classic posts is incomingI was waiting!
>>584376594>rust wrapperoh ok, personally I prefer to creampie.
>>584377851kek fell for it
>>584377593Score attack map traversal game with playing cards.You start with a hand of 3 cards + a joker.You draw a card and must choose if you want to discard it or walk it. You earn points by walking on cards.Walk rules:>same suite + previous/next rank>same rank + previous/next suite>joker can walk to any cardie A2 -> [A3, AA, B2, D2, joker]ie joker -> [all cards]The game ends once there is no more cards on the deck.
>>584376036I am.
>>584378141at least you're not trying to consume video tutorialsanyway only a few minutes of reading is needed to understand the wands
My game just destroyed itchio lmao
>>584377973if you're an artist why would you care what engine he uses?>>584377851looks pretty cool
ludstatus?
>>584377973>>584378178wait, that was it?that was 'the big agdg meme'?I mean cool, I can post more of my games, sounds good to me, resume.in the meantime: working terminals everywhere yo>>584378518thanks bro <3
oneshotted wasteland clash royale
>>584379165what now bitch
>>584379289well, if you put the camera upside down and want the car to "fall" you can open up environment settings and set gravity to negative, easy!
>>584377560Just fyi anyone over 30 or so literally can’t see anything farther than about a quarter centimeter from the big ball here.
>>584377709>slopper that literally can’t code has “more experience”Lmaoooooooooo I guess I’ll call you DK from now on.
i literally have no idea what im doingdo I just keep painting??
>>584379114he's been doing this for 7 years at leastif it's the same anon
I fell for the artist meme once. I just had to sit there with my humiliation bare to everyone. I will never let that happen to me again. It still rings in my ears.>Good luck!You will not meme on me ever again, "GOOD LUCK" (not) to you too.
>>584379794It's ready ship it
>>584379884>>584379996
>AI can't make appealing 3d modelsit took the easiest and enjoyable parts of gamedev like coding and game design, and it stuck me with the hardest partart-chads WON
>>584379114also for crafting>>584379884I mean it's always funny when it's funny but that delivery was kinda weak, idk, maybe the original was funny and I'm lacking context.>>584379794Which parts did you paint and which ones did you not?My answer will depend on yours.
Yep, I use AI ;)
>>584380131i painted the breast and belt, started on the pants then realized my UVs were fucked because they were exiting the grid
>>584380181>not lolifucking garbage, get the fuck out of my screen
