>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.Previous Thread >>584347649
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
where are the invite codes
I'm gonna roll a tauren druid, none of you better do that so I can get my special treatment
ALEXENSUAL POSTER RUNS THIS THREAD
inv for totems
Let's all have a blast
patch tomorrow?
what's up with that?
They should add a system where you can make your character stronger by resetting it back to level 1 and leveling up again
still not b& btw.
>>584370205ask him if i can have fun aoeing mobs with mage again.
>>584370205oh I didn't know they removed dungeons from worlo forlo
What minimum prestige level will I need to be invited to ur raid, /wowfg/?
>want to join the ebin streamer world pvp battle>not on the same layer
>>584370238Most MMOs have this because it’s an easy way to keep leveling zones from being empty. Log into Retail and look at how many people are in Duskwood or Hellfire Peninsula.
>>584370356having a blast RPing.
How far will I have needed to progress horizontally in order to be invited 2 ur group, /wowfg/?
>>584370356Shut up faggot
>>584370101You'll get it on Monday to enjoy 4 days of the beta!
>>584370205You can't enter dungeons? Have you filed a bug report?
The bots REALLY don't like not being able to level up in dungeons...
>>584370018https://youtu.be/VI_J1gcOXIQ?t=1879
cant wait to get horizontal after blasting to 60, gonna be such a good sleep
don't play on the pvp server unless you really really like begging for a layer switch invite in guild chat (your layer will be dominated by the opposite faction every time you log in)
how the fuck do I level efficiently while also getting all the best drops from each dungeon?
ERA IS THRIVING
>>584370703Wawa fufu isn’t a horizontal game, it’s diagonal.
why is he liek this?
>>584370275Honestly a dimes look. Looks better than 95% of male human paladins
>>584370159>not femdwarf*declined*
>>584370205I don't know why dungeon spammers are complaining, now they can spend even more time in dungeons!
>>584370826>broken english smuggiesName a more brown-coded post.
>>584370928playing a female char is already gay but playing a female dorf is basically akin to sounding with a pinecone. whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?????
>Every spec doesn't need to be the best choice for every encounter, but there should be reasons to bring a spec to certain content.yeah that means specifically DPS only>BUT MY PALADIN TANK WHO IS GOOD WITH X RAID Y DUNGEON>BUT MY SHAMAN HEALER WHO IS ONLY GOOD IN THIS CONTENT>BUT MY DRUID TANK WHO IS GOOD WITH...it really is a dps problem and dps already is being homogenocided
>>584370826>>584370205>this retard is upset with 2 good changeskek go back to fucking era
When Forever releases im going to progress vertically while you chumps are progressing horizontally and then I shall be the chosen one!
>>584370768Get lucky and have every boss drop the pieces you need and win the roll on every single one. Easy.
>>584371034(You) are such a loser. You're literally on here 25 hours a day brooding about brown trannies. Get a fuckin life
>vertical regression
>>584370472>trannysanother ESL brown larping as a racist white
>tfw 3rd worlders cant bot token or boostmaxxing to make gold in game(meme note: gold in world of warcraft is 10x the amount of their local currency)
>>584371139>>584370826>>584370205
i am transitioning right now sisters. I doing gender progression
>>584371263>be orc warriorits that easy
trannies from /heals/ are leaking back into here
You will kill the sky elves and play ogres when they release
Dungeon spammers answer me this, why are you in a rush to endgame? Why do you need it to go faster?
>>584371427The raid release is pretty early tbqh
>>584371292janny clean this shit up, some fucking retard 3rd worlder is coping at the fact that you can be named niggerman and make fun of 3rd worlders and trannys in the game.
>>584371393You will sacrifice your life for Pakistani, Mohammed Rapejeety.
>>584371306can grok make one where the human is getting raped hardcore by orcs while they execute other humans around him
>>584370205>let me spam dungerinos with my friends!translations ->CHINGCHONG BINGBONG PREASE RET ME SELL BOOSTS. ME NEED TO PAY RENT!
>>584371393so few people would play Ogre that its not worth it. Even right now are fucking Orcs even top 3 on Horde population? Its all Undead and Skelf I feel like.
>>584371427the game starts at 60, thats why you dont dungeon spam, its slower, even before the nerfs, it was only fast in SM with a specific comp, mob tagging was king, now its hyper spawns and quests
>>584371509Who the hell is that?
>>584371427Because I actually want to play the real game
>>584371643>the game starts at 60Retail mindset requires retail solutions I guess
>>584371503>dem>dair>the>theyYou're not even good at being racist. If you're not brown, then you're an 80 IQ untermensch so it's a distinction without a difference.
>>584370085That’s why everyone here is terrified of Hunters
AHHHH TAKE THAT ANIFA TRANNYS, STORM WIND IS FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WHITE PEOPLE.
quick rundown on andy? who is he and why is he always namedropped?
Blizzard should give out 2 week bans to anyone who hits 60 in the first week after launch. They all deserve a 2 week break
>>584371821Giga based post
>>584371643>>584371679remember when everyone kept saying "vanilla was about the journey"?
>>584371643>>584371679Blizzard have explicitly said this is not how WoWF will work. You need to go back to retail/classic.
>>584371643>>584371679they literally said multiple times that they're moving away from the 'endgame is the point of the game' philosophy, you fucking mongoloids>>584371485a month is more than enough time to hit 60 even if you're a filthy casual dadgamer
>>584370826nothing is more corrupt then gdkp lmao id rather some slut gets loot because she sucked the guild leader off than gdkp, thats what real vanilla WoW raiding was like
>>584371723i have never played retail since the original wrath, the game doesnt start till you hit max, levelling is a tutorial to your class, i dont need a tutorial
>>584371643that's not true. While the goal long term of Forever is to make 60+ the 'endgame', on launch that isn't really the point. The levelling experience from 1-60 is still going to be a key part of the game that builds your 'relationship' with your characters, something retail lacks.
>>584371831Reddit equivalent to calling someone a slur because anything harsher than poopoo head is a permaban
Journey enjoyers get the rope along with trannies
>>584371927>>584371892Raid gear is better than dungeon gear. The raid releases 5 weeks after the server launches. It's not complicated
>>584371831you know how 4chanfags append -fag to people who are part of a larger group?>oldfags>newfags>classicfags>retailfags-andy is the reddit approved version of that
>>584372019What do you need the raid gear for?
>tfw https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Og9TmE31YuI?
>>584371831retarded zoomer term. Lots of zoomers started playing WoW because obviously their games (Roblox, Fortnite etc) are complete dog shit. They have a chip on their shoulder about playing a millenial game. Kind of like how they have a chip on their shoulder posting on a millenial website as well.
>>584372065So plebs like you can inspect me while I sit in ironforge on my epic mount
>>584371896blizzard have said thousands of things that are just untrue over the years, they can say whatever they want, it doesnt change how the playerbase plays the game
>siphon life deals like 30 dps in endgame gearwhats the point lmao
>pov: you're brown
>>584372180So then why should blizzard make any changes for your sake if all you want to do is not actually play the game
>>584371641Who cares what people play or not
>>584372224listen porch monkey, i said i quest not dungeon spam before this, keep rubbing those peanuts together
>tweet something positive about retail WoW>some furry likes my post and follows mewut?
can't wait until a bunch of these retailoid monkeys speedrun to 60, only to hit a wall and not be able to actually clear the new raids for weeks cause they can't look up the optimal strats and cheese the mechanics with wbuffs
>>584370205erm...! you cvan still do dungeons actualyl?
>>584372403retail is 95% furries and trannies now, and 5% poopsocker RMT mplussy and RWF people
>>584372280Nobody said they had to? Whether you dungeon spam or quest, almost all the content below 60 is irrelevant once you start doing 60 dungeons and raids.
does wowfg like this art of an aged-up anduin i made
>>584372660Draw sally whitemane
>>584372660fuck off with your gay shiton a related note, why did they make anduin jewish in wowf?
>>584370205I have my source: AGGREND IS PAYED BY RESTED XP. HE MAKES MORE MONEY SELLING RESTED XP WITH HIS AFFILIATE CODE THROUGH HIS FACELESS AI YOUTUBE CHANNEL THAN THROUGH HIS JOB AT BLIZZARD.
>>584372660Yes its nice art but meme pics are boring and normiecoded
FOREVER LEAKS
Can you place a camp and all your profession buffs on it yourself or are you limited in some way?
imagine actually doing dungeons, questing, grinding before 60
desu just blanket ban multiboxingits rife with abuse
>>584372660Yes it's nice but can you do this >>584372763 next?
>>584371885yeah, i also remember calling "everyone" a retarded faggot and playing the game the way i enjoy. which is not doing fetch quests like a fucking drooling mongoloid retard slave.
>>584373124Pretty sure you can only drop the buff items for the professions you have learned no?
Uh oh, questroon melty
>>584373137
>>584371643Ok cool so why nerf it further if it's already less efficient than questing?
Am I an Orc? Are we in Orgrimmar? No. You're in the Undercity. Now, Forsaken that know the difference between good shit and bad shit, this is the city they come to.
>>584373181this would be one of the easiest things to implement and blizzard will never do it because all they care about is getting their monthly 12$ from each paypiggy account
Really, why are we posting AI slop?
>>584373409i agree, they are retarded
>>584373246Yeah but can you put down for example both tailoring and enchanting buffs or are you limited for example to one buff placed by yourself?
Journey enjoyers are just not good at vidya let alone mmos
Quests that aren't green should only give 10% exp, we want you out in the world and doing yellow quests is too min max.
>>584373340$4.5 an hour for a third world slave? please. that's more than their parents make at the nike factory
>Really, why are we posting AI slop?
>>584372660I don't think you made that
>>584373137>>584373340allowing third-worlders access to the internet was the easily in the top 3 of the worst mistakes western civilization has ever made
>>584372230>omg sl/sl lock is going to be so open!>deals 0 damage and gets trainedAffliction is so ass it's unreal
Hello i am a representative from lolg and i have an offer we would like to merge our threads together and become /wowfg/ + /lolg/ or maybe /wowflolg/ or something(we can work out the name of our new general later) and in exchange you guys get a few new posters from our general in your threadWould you guys be open ot the idea?
>>584373098Is this game good? That looks weirdly fun
>>584373532This is trueI'm bad at games and taking a journey
>>584373721Literally, genuinely, unironically, unequivocally, completely, irrefutably, demonstratably true.
>>584373781ASSFAGGOTS LMAO
>>584371892so what was so compelling in the beta that you felt the need to lock your exp?
the first interesting thing coming out in vidya in literally years and you paid extra to burn yourself out playing the beta before the game is even released.you could have just waited 30 days.
>>584373721maybe it was better back then because these people didnt have internet access
>yandex (russian) data centers bombed by ukranian military>pearl clutching on twitter about dungeon xp and forced name changes drops to near-zeroincredible
>Fully geared+talented holy paladin has less than half the overall healing output as resto druidlolLMAO evenaggrend can't even balance his own pet class right
>>584373721Does it matter when we are currently letting the third world invade all western countries and start replacing the white population?
>>584374016its funny because the same thing happened to the art commission stuff, bunch of those deviant art tier slop artists couldn't out compete all the poor asian country artists on price or quality
>>584374162it's okay, they got blessings
Scale sissies and furry failsons how are you doing it looks like the no retail races in WoW Forever news finally hit the classic wow reddit and they're struggling to cope just like you've been trying to for the past 12 hours https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x53nca/most_recently_interview_is_literally_making_me/
>>584373513you can only contribute 1 of your buffs to a campfire
>>584374162>holy priest>5 bounce pomIn what fucking ideal world? You get one bounce off the tank and another that overheals if you are lucky
im going to dung gring every BiS for my level range, then go back and do every single quest possible in every single zone to get 100% of everything and not a single 3rd worlder or tranny can tell me anything else. i WILL enjoy the game.
I won't be rolling on a pvp server on relase.Honestly world pvp has always sucked on a full server, and this sharding crap makes it as if every server is a full server, and zones alternate being dominated by either faction.
>>584374308yeah we'll just get retail races of different colorsthey're not gonna make new models and animations lol
>>584374347That's kinda gay
>>584374162disc looks worse because they cant take into account shielding with aegis shields to be fair, still fuck paladin
Im selling Forever friend services. Its 20$ for 6 hours of Forever friendship for Horde or 30$ for Alliance scum. I can run dungeons with you, farm you stuff or just be a pal on the road your call. Dont miss out on this Forever offer first come first served
>>584364402Thrall saw this everyday when fighting demons and other enemies of the horde but didn't go for it. Now he's a dad to a wife that everyone hated in Cataclyms so now she doesn't show up anymore and no one mentions that he has like 4 kids
>>584374495I get it, but why do you take out your anger on the bake's OP pic, is everything you do about publicly humiliating yourself
>>584374432i will do the same but at 60, and make more gold from the quests, if the quests are actually fun they will be fun regardless of level
>>584374162>source: it came to me in a dream
>>584373753can you even get sl/sl at 30?
>>584374293Totems are better than blessings yet shaman outheals them by a ton. I think we're about to find about that besides blessing of salvation paladins were never that goodOf course being the pet class of the dev team they will be the first ones to be buffed
>>584374825no
>584374820yawnalways the same brainlet cope from the blizzslurpers
>>584374601put it near a flightpath and it'll be full within 5 minutes
>>584374162>max rank spells only>no accounting for mp efficiencyI cannot express how worthless this chart as a holistic ranking. I know the author isn't doing this, but people are gonna have this takeaway if you only post that page of the document. Anyone who has done any amount of endgame classic/tbc healing would know to discount it immediately.
warcraft 2 raid with deathwing
LOL /wowg/ Malding hard about the no retail races in wow foreverall that spam and astro-turfing, all for nothing
>>584373532the dopamine poisoned zoomer mind can't imagine doing something for the fun of it. they can only consume content and since the act of consumption is painful to them they need to rush to the end of the content as fast as possiblethe only sense of accomplishment they have ever felt comes from chasing views on likes on social media. they can't process the idea of living in the moment. everything is metrics to them. they only do things for the purpose of being able to brag about having done them.
>>584375156you've been living under a rock? blizz killed downranking
>>584374858isn't paladin's whole thing that their single target heals are unmatched?
>>584374743He'll make the right choice in this timeline.
>>584375262isn't that only for procs? Can't you still do it for mana efficiency
>>584375156>downranking>after blizzard already explicitly said they intend on killing the entire playstyleretard
>>584371821You character is clearly brown and you are killing white humans.
>>584372406>implying there will be "mechanics" in the bosses that will actually challenge retailGODS that just downed L'ura and Ula'teklmao
>>584374162>some literal who jewtuber came up with some shitty numbers for healersIt's on jewtube so it must be true
SoD 2 will have hunters be the best class again
>>584375259Retail players really love vulpera, don't you know
Can't decide what to play. I'm very leery about playing cat druid because I have serious doubts I'll get into any sort of group.
>>584374308Doing fine. Just won't be playing forever
>>584375259/wowg/ is the most raped general on this boardby far
>>584375405i remember when professionel "retailgods" got filtered by sunked temple in sod
>>584375418stop posting anytime retard
>azerothium bar>heavy thorium bar
the raped anon returns for another raping
>>584375426hunters werent the best class in any sod tier
>>584375262downranking only kicks in once you are 18levels higher than when you learnt the spell and then its only a % drop each level beyond that, that doesnt effect most downranked heals you would use for efficiency
>>584375127Yeah but you only get 3 buffs and if I'm a caster I don't need physical damage/stat buffs
watched some clips of popular wow streamers, who the fuck watches this shit? it is just grown man drumming up fake drama like a bunch of high school girls, most of the time they do not even play the game..... but "notice" problems, fucking annoying and embarrassing
>>584375452Play shadow priest
>>584375426LmaoSoD died a miserable death as it should haveGood riddance. Shitiest version of WoW bar none.
>caring about efficiency when fights will last 2 minutes and you can just chug mana potsnext cope
>>584375498They're talking about the avatarfagging janny losing it's in-game wife to final fantasy LOL
>>584375452The whole point of being druid is the versatility and that you can tank or heal a group if necessaryIf your mindset is "I'm picking a hybrid but only playing the DPS spec ever" then no, just pick a pure DPS class. A cat druid in classic is like 1/3 of a real class its not designed to be played solely in that form
>>584375452Shaman or any cloth dps is a safe bet.These are the least played classes.
>mana potsnot buying your gold changi'll let a thousand tanks die before i buy a single mana pot
>>584375697someone lock this madman up
>>584375452I leveled up in anniversary as a cat druid and I got invites because I wasn't going to take the warrior weapons
>>584375675>who watches dancing monkeys "play" gamessame people that watched reality tv 20 years ago
Bros... Retoilets are making fin of us saying our boss fights will be too easy and be nothing but tank and spanks...
>>584375527>professionelkek. also this aint sod bud. the new content is as trivial as the old stuff
SoD turned out to be dogshit but it had a much more promising launch than SoD 2. SoD 2 is just doomed eternal raidlogging
What restrictions are there for camp placement? I assume you can't just stack them up to block a road or entrance to a building? In fact, do they even have collision?
>>584372406i'm curious about how the meta will develop now without world buffs, i'm not an expert, but i feel like stacking warriors with wbuffs trivialized a lot of "mechanics" right?
>>584375909I think you cant place them near existing fires but you can definitely put them in the middle of a road or town
>>584375527>dont have months of ptr testing the raid so they cant code paid weakauras to play the game for them>get filteredmany such cases
>>584370205They have no response except "muh boosts", implying it's more fun trying to tag the same 6 mobs as 15 other people for a 35% quest item drop.
>>584375874Are they wrong?
>>584375498>>584375259Holy shit you weren't kidding. Total and complete meltdown of a general. They hate their own game, they hate Forever, they hate Classic. What is even the point?
>>584375712reminder that the entire purpose of wow was to make a game like everquest where any moron or casual player could feel like they are good at rpgs. "returning to the root of what made wow special" is just a fancy way of saying they are making this as casual as possible.
>>584375919it's gonna be a shitshow for the first couple of months just like SoM and SoD were, but once people figure out the best strats and get better gear the raids are gonna be on farm
>>584375903Forever is SoD 0.5
You still downrank based on incoming damage taken even if the mp efficiency is exactly the same. Classic/Forever is (largely) so spikey on tank damage that it turns into a snipe fest. At that point its better to go down a rank or two. I understand they're nerfing procs and coefficients but the existence of shaman necessitates downranking be some level of viable.
>>584375919even when a group wiped and everyone lost world buffs all the content was still going down in less than a minute, and we are going to be stronger than that with new abilities and new scaling, you might actually see melee hunter stacking with how many speed steroids they get on a short cooldown
>>584376095We don't know? The first 2 raids will be completely new, it wont be molten core all over againThe raids will definitely be way simpler than retail thats for sure
I need an edgy, funny, slightly racist name for my fem undead priest. Something that wont get me banned or renamed. What say you, chuds?
I'm glad the boss fights will be easy, that way i get to focus on what's important (my parses)
>>584376296Slaveto Livingcock
>>584375919in all honesty, probably less people will raid overallyou have to understand what's been happening in retail over the past decade, a large community was established that would solo old content for appearance items and to collect achievements, that community sure looked a lot like the one's that would abuse world buffs to trivialize classic content, now that they actually have to try and can't burn the boss down in thirty seconds, they probably just won't raid at all, crazy that they were bragging about parsing while playing like that too lol
>>584373124only 3 camp items can be placed around a single campfire, and every camp item has a shared 1 hour cooldown (I imagine they last the same amount of time) that's slightly reduced with legacy talents, so you can't make 3 yourself and place them all down
>>584376296Bad romance
>>584376296coffin dodger
Threadly reminder to not invite players who use female models to your group or guild because there's a high chance they are trannies
>>584376296Floyd Thebreathless
>>584376296i'll be reporting every name that gets posted as a reply to this so good luck.
most of us want personal loot
>>584374432this is simply not possible as you will begin to outlevel your existing bis and will need to replace it with new bis, which will level you more and the cycle keeps repeatingand then you'll be so overleveled you won't get into dungeon groups because you'd rape your party's xp
>>584375675every time i try to watch one theyre doing literally nothing
>>584376296Natalia Higgers
>>584376529>edgy>6 year old jokedid all of your brains permanently calcify in 2020?
>>584376586most people are retards who shouldn't be allowed to make any kind of major decisions in their liveswhat of it?
>>584376521trannies boost guilds performance because everyone wants to be alpha who gets to fuck them
>>584376143I legitimately don't believe you've played Everquest or any other mmo from before 2005.
>>584376730correctthat's exactly why they shouldn't be allowed to decide how loot is distributedwow is a low trust society
>>584376296Rosa ParksAunt Jemima
>>584376586only if its tradable so i can get pressured into giving my items to guild leader's gf
>>584376818they aren't. they either leave it up to chance or are assigned loot by a person who has a brain
>>584375772Druid was my first character back in 2004, so I want to play it again in WoWF, plus I like them. However, It's not designed to do hybrid things, either, though. You don't have the mana to shift of cat for a shitass heal anyway, and they have literally gone out of their way to prevent you from playing both cat and bear. Like literally was a focus point that they didn't want you going into bear from cat form. Plus the talent bloat needed where they also separate the cat and bear key talents. Besides, you should also make the same argument for playing resto. It's a full healing spec just the same as any other, yet no one expects it to play another role despite being the same hybrid spec. >>584375778Was thinking mage, but I think my friend is also going mage, and I'm not playing a warlock on alliance. Fuck that. Shadow priest is still a meme. I have never enjoyed shaman, either. I tried. I don't get it. >>584375849Not true anymore. Feral uses the DPS of the equipped weapon now, so they compete with anyone who wants a 2h mace or polearm.
>>584376725KEK I genuinely cannot believe that triggered someone.
>>584376934>a person who has a brainname ONE person
>>584376731t. delusional tranny abomination
All loot should be BoE, and all loot should be given at random to random players in the raid
>>584377021me
if retail is so good than why wowg is having 30 hours threads? why is the game dead according to all major content creators? why are you posting here instead of playing retail?
>>584377076not gonna happen tranny. keep your filth in retail where you belong
>>584376521female model with helm on is a safe invite howeeveer
>>584377002>and I'm not playing a warlock on alliancehuman warlocks are gonna be completely fine to play, you minmaxing tranny
>>584376782i only played shadowbane, uo and daoc cause i'm a pk'er.i don't play wow because it's for babies that need a safe space.
>>584377141i dont have to play retail 24/7?i can play other games?
>>584377176I'm afraid not actually. You can take the chance with associating trannies if you want I guess but I won't be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMylc2Or1Ic
>>584377141in retail your rotations are 30 buttonsin classic it's 1 or 2 and you can play with your eyes closed
>>584377309this tooi can post inbetween mobs in classic lol
>>584377141retailoids are suffering from sunken cost fallacy, so they want to destroy wowf in order to keep their dead game relevant
>>584377141>all major content creatorsdon't you have homework due tomorrow?
I thought the mana wasn't the big thing it was on cast procsSo you can still save mana you just won't get some of the talented stuff
>>584377302if only a binding dropped
>>584377002But if you want to just be a cat and literally never anything else why the fuck roll druid? Its just a gimped rogue with none of the cool utility.Its not like retail where all specs are trying to be designed equal, its just a really bad rogue. Druid especially is designed to be a multi-class sort of class where it can mimic classes but never reach their full potential. To pick one facet of that and go THIS IS ME, ALL THE TIME just seems fucking retarded
>>584377302>20 years agohelp
I've decided im gonna make a skyborne druid. What should I name her?
>>584377309>in retail your rotations are 30 buttonsyea and half of the playerbase does better in raids when they use the obr instead of actually playing the game themselves
>>584377661Floyd Thebreathless
>>584377492that was the main reason for the nerf, they didnt want mages using rank 1 spells to fish for procs in PvP or boosting, bunch of other spells got hit by it, like spamming SW:P rank 1 to get blackout procs
>>584377661Herman
>>584377661White Woman
>>584377249Especially after the Thursday Orc nerf
>>584377661green only
>>584377661Breathless Thefloyd
>>584377661Final Flash
>>584377661pozzed skeghole
>>584377661Lana Tuls
>>584376521>>584377284just admit you are gay and want all the male attention to yourself. men are more attracted to actual confidence you can win them over by stating your intentions usually. playing pickme mind games like this is female behaviour.
>>584377309Doesn't retail literally have a one button rotation feature now? You just assign your whole rotation to a single button and mash it.
>>584377661BLUE THE JEW!Found the Rabbi
>>584377661Stink Flaps
>>584377941you dont even assign it, its fully automatic, just use the button
>>584377941Well Classic would have that if the rotations weren't already 1 button
I will be leaving the dungeon the second I get my quests done, thanks blizzard!
>>584377941yeah and you do dogshit dps with it. they made it for classic players.
Windfury totem is fundamentally broken and creates poor melee/ranged balance in all forms of content.>WF is only accessible to melee and dramatically increases their raid damage.>The game is balanced around raid damage output.>This causes melee to have under tuned damage outside of raid content.>This makes ranged classes oppressive, especially in PvP and when aoe / speed farming instances.>WF's existence means warrior get weakened rage generation in most forms of content because they're balanced around having extra swings from WF.Options to fix this?>Spell Power Aura on a ranged caster class (Not Shaman, likely Mage or Boomkin, replace the 3% crit).>Delete WF totem from the game.Pros of a spell power aura>WF is strong because it procs on white damage and white damage is a majority of melee dps.>Spells don't work the same as melee attacks so a WF type effect for spells is a bad idea. DoT's would not benefit from any WF type effect on casts.Cons>The class with the aura will have to still be over tuned outside of raids otherwise it will be worse than all the other casters that will benefit from its buff.>Ranged hunters will still be over tuned because they don't benefit from spell power or WF.>Warrior rage generation remains bad when a shaman isn't in their party to buff them with WF.Pros of deleting WF totem>Completely removes the tuning problem of WF.>Warrior rage generation can be buffed to a comfortable level in all forms of content.>Shaman can use grace of air instead, which is nearly 4% crit for most classes and hunters even benefit from it.Cons>My class fantasy.>Shaman players will complain even though they still have strong party buffs.It's clear that the best option is to delete WF totem. Shaman should keep their personal buff, but the totem is a balancing nightmare.
>>584377941how would they know they only watch streamers play
>>584378078>she plays alliance
>>584377941>>584378001It also comes with a DPS penalty btw. It's for literal retarded spergs (classic enjoyers)>>584378069Beat me to it
>>584370275It will be a dark (dablack) day when this character's death announcement rings throughout the hardcore server.
>>584378078Windfury totem is what made horde in vanilla. Its the most SOVLful ability there is and you need to fuck off with your retail brain trying to balance it
>>584377941Yes but it has a huge GCD penalty that rapes your own dps so nobody uses it.
retailkek wellness check
>he's going to waste another 1000 hours of his life on the blizzard hamster wheelyou need to reserve the name "proud goycattle" or something similar
>>584378243>>584378164found the retail "players"
>>584378041And I will be putting anyone who does this on my ignore list, same as I do for everyone else who is too impatient to actually play the game :)
>>584378078Didn't read last time and won't this time or next timeBrevit, mother fucker. Learn it
>>584378215don't care, it makes the game less fun for all melee classes and should be deleted.
>>584378078If you remove windfury no one will ever play shaman, it's the only reason anyone puts up with that garbage class
>>584377941the bigger problem with retail is boss mechanics. They're way too complicated in order to make (((esports))) players happy (nobody has given a fuck about esports in 10 year, btw)
>>584378317>Brevitbrevity. Fuck
>>584378363You're just mad alliance wont have as many because the tranny faction refuses to roll dwarf
the crazy thing is the dungeon spammers have this deep antipathy towards questing. they don't just want to only do dungeons, they HATE the idea that people are questing out in the world and assume it must all be restedxpslopwhat causes this pathology?
>fem Tauren HD customization fucking nuked, has almost none of the SD options, and forced faggy hair covering eyesWhat the absolute fuck
didn't pootoilet get a new content patch today? why are you in the Forever thread seething, lil gvlp?
>blizzard is doubling down on the vertical progression gear treadmill bc its the only way they know to keep players subbed to the gameyep, this might be it for me, if they think i'll play retail just bc it doesn't have space chimneys and wow tokens they're mistaken
>>584370538>loot doesnt come into the equation at allquesting feels like complete ass if you fall behind the intended gear curve which is augmented by dungeon runs
>>584378306We appreciate
>>584375259I just want more customization options for the existing races. Stuff like more hair options, maybe different eye glow for undead (green for warlock, red for warrior, purple for mage), that kinda stuff.
If we're going to start classic+ by adding an OC race that has nothing to do with wow then just let me play as a froglok already
>>584378306>someone asks about a retail feature>they get an answer>OMG LOOK AT THE RETAIL PLAYERS OMG LOL???
I just ate like 5k calories today. Im in top form for Forever launch
>>584378078all true. it's a weird design choice. they should at least either make it raid wide or make casters also need an important group buff.
>>584378440Grace of Air is stronger than Leader of the Pack. It gives nearly 4% crit to shaman, druids, warrior, and paladins. Slightly less crit to rogues, but also grants 77 attack power, and it grants RAP and like 1.3% crit to hunters. Shaman will still be wanted.
>>584378583i have never ever had a problem with quests using only gear from said quests, its a joke, and worst case scenario you could spend a couple silver for some greens on the AH
>>584378306We appreciate your adoration.
>>584378769Yes lets balance all the fun out of the game already
>>584378542>the content
>>584378708You look like you're going to the er
>>584378078I do think Windfury is ultimately end up being removed some time down the road. Not sure if it will be this year, next, or the year after that. But eventually it has to go. Warrior, Paladin, and Rogue are basically all balanced around it.
Windfury should simply be a Self Only Shaman buff.
>>584378708what class does he play
Is Survival fun?
>>584378517>MUH QUESTIN>MUH FRIEND GROUPS>MUH GUILD RUNSEverything you are seeing online about why they should bring back dungeon spamming is total bullshit. It's all lies. All of them are chinks trying to trick Blizzard into adding back mob xp so they can sell boosts. No real human wants to sit in SM for hours upon hours to level.
>>584378856That creature should be put out of its misery, not ridden.
AGGREND'S GENIUS KNOWS NO BOUNDS
>>584378950windfury should be raid wide buff long as you're withing the 30 yards.
>>584378895*buuuuuuuuuurp* im chugging 3 monsters a day to keep the heartrate up. all good
If vanilla boss fights are so easy then why do pugs still wipe to bwl
>>584378838good for you but i have to drink after every pull, i die if i pull than one mob and i havent touched this toon for days because i hate it so much
>>584379018I think these early sims are total bullshit except for ele being dead last. That is just a fact of life at this point.
>>584379018>Make Shaman dogshit>They'll never be balanced>Also make them mandatory for Raids because of Windfury.All Shaman players are submissive little bottoms. Slaves to the meta and themselves because of WF. The class will never be balanced while it exists.
i was told i could unsub for any amount of time and feel adequate after coming back, now with the news that they're introducing "seasons" in the form of tier sets and raids, what's the point of playing this over retail? the power creep is gonna keep going up
>>584379240Regular enhance is in A tier as a hybrid spec. Doesn't look bad at all.
>>584379157i mean you're the one picking the shit spec for questing
>>584379240I like to sometimes do 90% of a mob's hp in one hit, it activates the neurons, I will not apologize for it :(
>>584379240>Make Shaman dogshitwhy are shaman (and hunters) the highest dps in group content at lvl 30? every shaman ive grouped up with obliterates everything in half a second and does over 150dps
>>584378856Imagine spending the equivalent of 7 million gold on a soon to be dead game. The mogmountcheevo zombies need to be put down
>>584379324Are you expecting this game to not be a huge time sink?
>>584379430totem aoe is good, and enhance is good
>>584377590>none of the cool utility It does have its own utility, though. The same base utility that all druids have. Just because a balance or resto druid has the ability to go near form doesn't mean they can tank anything. Likewise a feral druid can't pop out of cat and heal anything just the same that a ret paladin or ench shaman. I don't think it's weird to want to play cat because I like the druid package, but I do think it's weird that blizzard is pretending they can seamlessly play four roles at the same time, while actively hindering the connecting roles. Still, this whole conversation is why I'm mulling it over in the first place. No other class has this retarded conversational air about it.
>>584379018wofg told me rogue will be top dps tho
>>584379018>smite priest confirmed got nerfed before beta>still better than ele>meme build where you go deep enh to melee weave stormstrike>still better than regular ele buildHas any spec ever gotten cucked this hard in the history of the game? Maybe WW during BFA?
>roll alliance>play with 2 friends, war/hunt/sham>we'll be 3-manning dungeons and world pvping every chance we getI cant wait
>>584379157>level 18>still have white gloves and bootsThat could partly be why.
>>584379018Im only inviting S tier dps with Rank 670 prestige and 42069 gearscore to my raids!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smJ3QUGqrNghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smJ3QUGqrNghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smJ3QUGqrNgnew jerome just dropped
>>584378363LMAO you don't play melee or if you do, you only play Alliance. kys moron.
>>584379624this but unironically https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/gearscore-forever
>>584379675holy shitholy SHIT
>>584379451i expect it to be MY time sink, if they couldnt come up with more endgame content than just "go do new raid" then maybe i was putting my hopes up in the wrong group, MMOs might be dead indeed
>>584379603why did questing let me fail this bad?
Any oldfags still in here? What's your reason to play? I wanted to go world pvp while leveling (the true vanilla endgame) but all the classes have weird non-vanilla mods to their gameplay. Hunter autoshots through shot casts, Mage has Fingers of Frost and Ice Lance and Fireblast doing way more damage relative to cast spells. Any class which still feels interesting to play? I dont mind novel ways to play, I do mind retail design philosophy poisoning vanilla.
>>584379430DPS has never been balanced at low levels in any version of the game. Hunters are notoriously strong at low level and shaman get their main big bang abilities (stormstrike and windfury) before reaching the lvl 40 capstone where a lot of specs come online.
>>584378856so.. when are we getting auctioneer mount in forever? you know it's coming, just not sure when..
Stacked gnomes are for
>>584379430Because level 30 is the only time shaman gets a huge power spike and on the beta they're all using the equivalent windfury axe weapon which is meant to be for level 40
>>584371139>>584370205>>584370826>abhorrent ESL post>crying about anti boost/RMT changesOh yeah, its asian bugmen hours.
>>584376296Natalee Holloway
>>584378041As a tank, I will be leaving the dungeon as soon as I lose a gear roll
>>584380162I cant believe blizz hasnt monetized the beta more at this point, theyre showing alot of restraint im proud of them!
>just admit you are gay and want all the male attention to yourself. men are more attracted to actual confidence you can win them over by stating your intentions usually. playing pickme mind games like this is female behaviour.
>>584378951Rogue
Blizzard should open raids three months after launch, not one month.You want people to take their time questing, leveling professions, farming pre-BiS, raising alts, earning gold for epic mount...That's actually the best part of the game.People are having the time of their lives in the Beta because there is zero pressure- you can just take your sweet time to do anything.And even many pro streamers don't have their BiS gear yet, and just spend time dueling or doing random silly stuff.Instead, you are fomo-ing casual dads into committing at least 30 hours per week to sweating.Dad will lose sleep, perform worse in the office during day and get passed for promotion, and neglect his toddlers and angering his wife, who is secretly looking out for a better guy because of all the frustration.And all that for what?So players burn themselves out to reach the raidlogging point of the game and play less???Opening the raids one month after launch is a GRAVE MISTAKE!!
>>584380186Me.
>>584380071>What's your reason to play?having funif I dont have fun I'll go play something elsemaybe try out Runescape
>>584379675
>>584380309you can just start a run everything reserved with master looter and take it all, done it in beta, people dont care and will come just to complete the quests
>>584380331I love Tiktok so much bros
>>584380071>NOOOO YOU CAN'T FIX OR IMPROVE CLASSES! MAGE SHOULD ONLY HAVE 1 BUTTON TO PRESS!
>>584380442yes lets not capitalize on the most lucrative period of the year where most people can play due to school and work holidays over xmas
>>584380442trust the process, level 60s will want to help the level 20 and level 30 raids releasing in december because of evergreen horizontal progression
Is this good?Never played a mageGenuine question
>>584380875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkbgtVFlyCQ
>>584380875This is the Classic+ I want
Blizzard should let us get this hat
>>584376065Can't wait for the "raider vs. dungeon spammer" version of this meme, when you guys 60 and transition to whining that you have to raid to get raid epics.
>>584380875Thunderfury actually makes for a sick as fuck skateboard
>>584380991https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7WEGYXWnvzE
Min/max sissies are you preparing yourselves for the racial tuning coming down the pipelineAre you lubed up or how do you like to get your shit pushed in
>Twitch Alexensualoh fuck i didnt even think of this, how many tards are we going to see with names like this? they better make the block list infinity
So, what will be the most sought after healer in Forever?I did not farm enough IQ points to decide myself.
>>584380625when/what was your first exposure to warcraft?yeah, didnt think so.
>>584381249I will play a nelfie or a humie, so we might get buffed
>>584381259having ttv and such in your name counts as advertising
Hunters are dominating the damage charts in every BG and it's not even closesurely the nigger devs will notice this and nerf them before live, right?
>>584381249i havent even made a class to practice the start zone speed run to get ahead yet, waiting on the patch notes
classes without built in trinkets are fucked
>>584381249bro the game isn't even out yetwe're just just going to swap to whatever had the biggest number who gives a shit
>>584381204and azeroth makes a sick skatepark, most zones are basically giant megaramps
>>584381297alliance or horde?alliance is shaman, horde probably paladinpeople dont really give a shit about healing capability, its about the buffs your class brinds
>>584381373thats the exact same as classic in low level bgs, its always been that way
>>584381259block list is pathetic like 50 and not account wide, but there are addons that fix that and give you unlimited tard blocker
>>584381373proabbly, i remember they fucking murdered hunters in sod like less than a week in kek
>>584375338No he won't. He thinks Jaina looks like his sister, Taretha.
>>584381456Don't lie, we know you make spreadsheets and autistically fret over this shit
>>584381490>people dont really give a shit about healing capability, its about the buffs your class brindsWait really? Im going Alliance, was thinking priest, because it looked like something raid teams needed, but now I really dont fucking know....
>>584381630yes we dobut the game isn't out. it literally does not matter, and we have the whole disinfo campaign about how they can NEVER touch racials after release locked and loaded
>>584381682bee urself
>>584381432Nah orc and gnome are bis right now. Ofc that will probably change after the next patch targeting racials
>>584381682healers have pretty low retention rate, you will always find groups
Why can't dwarves be mages? I would've much preferred mage over shaman, especially since Wildhammer aren't in the Alliance in any appreciable numbers whereas Bronzebeard are the backbone of the Alliance military in Vanilla.
A defeated paladin getting brutally buttfucked by orc warriors…
>>584380875T-T-TRICKY
>>584381682no one wants to heal so they get it easy
This is your shaman healer for tonight, say something nice about her.
>>584381930>Why can't dwarves be mages?Dwarves got kicked out of Dalaran for drinking all the beer.
What has your experience with darkspear islands been?In my games the Alliance wins almost never, like one in ten
>>584381373Go play any low level bg in any xpac. Hunters will likely be the best class every time.
>>584382130>nose ringI shall not
>>584382163Not surprising. Horde has a major terrain advantage, as usual.
how is resto shaman? interested in playing enhance but want the flexibility to heal dungeons if i need to, especially when i get dual spec
>>584382130She looks like she pees standing up
I was an original prot and ret enjoyer during vanilla and tbc. Now both talents seem good and i cant enjoy it now. t.autistic boomer
I like generating slop music about wow characters. Who should I use next?
I should probably do LW + Skinning on my shaman if I want to tank dungeons....
>>584381930warcraft dwarves inherit many cultural qualities of warhammer and tolkien dwarves, they eschew arcane magic in favor of elemental forces (and later, the light)
>>584382163All the tryhards are on horde right now because of the tournament.
>>584381373Because hunters have to be over tuned outside of raid content in order to compete with the other classes' raid dps. They benefit from the fewest raid buffs. That's why this guy is right >>584378078
>>584380875ollie 360 CHRIST grab OOOOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJof59hwBo
>>584382130
>>584382327This is retarded considering Dwarf Magi have been a thing in the lore for fucking ever and were cut last minute from Vanilla, to the point that they are still listed as a playable race class combo in the fucking instruction manual.
>>584379094SEX
>>584381930Its weird because in retail they tied Arcane really close to Order, which is the Titans' cosmic realm, so you would think the dwarves who have such reverence to the Titans would be mages
>>584382327That's not the case for warcraft dwarves. Some of the greatest mages in Warcraft lore were dwarves, albeit darkiron, but the three clans lived together if not homogeneously. Dwarves were even able to be mages in beta.
is WSG gate real
Blizzard is hiding something BIG!*plop*
post goon fuel
>>584382312
>no beta>unironically downloading retailwhat am i in for lads
>>584382796Fanfic level character drama
Notice how the tranny autismo after getting the door shut in it's face concerning draenei and goblins has found a new obsession, dwarf magesNo matter that it makes even less sense than copy and pasting the horde shaman toolkit onto dwarves, it just moves on to the next thing to spam
>>584382768What would the name of her rap song be?
>>584383000Brat God
>>584382949yes, "it", as this whole website is nothing but an AGENTS.md testing ground by now...
>>584383000Cathedral Cock.
>>584383000Titan Wet Vestibule
>>584382796You'll experience why they left it to rot
>>584382949meds
>>584382431>>584382535i wouldn't hate to see dwarf mages but shamans coming first makes more sense
>>584381930The Dark Irons took all the mages during the civil war, those Arcane Missile-shooting cunts.
>>584380951For what, PVE or PVP?
>>584378950Windfury should be a physical hit originating from the shaman that deals damage equal to the hit that proc'ed it
^ the raped
>>584380875Imagine if you could actually do this with Thunderfury…..
>>584382163If they don't pretty much crush horde racials with the nerfbat, forever won't have a pvp
>>584383228PVE
RetailCHADS are laughing at us again
>>584382796>he purchased retail
RetailTROONS are ACKing again
>>584383350racials are not the reason alliance is losing at pvp. half their population being olympus retards is.
>>584383397Those are bitter, desperate sobs, anon.
>>584383354Oops, specifically hardcore leveling PVE
>>584370826join a guild spastic
>>584383397>RetailCHADS are laughing at us againSorry your imaginary friends don't like you anon.
>>584383465yeah, maybe, in 2008 lmao. everything except whatever the current expac is comes with your subscription anon
poorfags we won
Prot paladin or prot warrior for peak human knight fantasy with the Brotherhood of the Horse?
>>584383664WE ARE SO BACK
>>584383481Olympus retards are just normal players.Outside the typical duel autists, average horde player sucks at pvp too.
>>584383737warrior, easily
>>584381682>something raid teams needResto Shaman. Resto Shaman. Once more, Resto Shaman.
>>584383664>get to play for 3 daysKek enjoy it I guess.
>>584383275>>Release DatesCAN YOU TAKE MEHIGHERRRRR
>>584383664So it is my duty to log in to make it so you guys experience the longest queue possible
>>584383664>stress testThe servers are already shitting themselves in the beta, I expect this will be unplayable.
>>584383664thanks for beta testing the stress test for us. nonbuynarychads win again.
>Classic Andies unironically think left side is better
>>584383481its ok WSG fixed all the horde side jumps and added loads of invisible walls
>>584383664
>>584384186
Guys I don't know if I like layering.
>>584383664oh no no no no no no no he payed $60 just to get cucked by poorfags 2 weeks later
>>584370205aggrend is fat
>>584383493Yeah that's fine just don't PVP with those talents
>>584383032>the fucking kickflip over mankriks wife
>>584370205You can still play dungeons with your friends in Forever, it just won't be any more efficient at leveling than questing. That's the current balance that they're going for.
>>584384765they're making it the same as doing gray quests
>>584384765Dungeons are a complete waste of time. They barely reward anything>But they boosted xp by 20%!Yeah after an 80% nerf.>40xp per kill>increase by 20% = +8 xp>48 xp per kill
Oh I'ma stress test alright. Stress Test their name filters.
im rolling a warlock and my gf is rolling a priest
>>584384973Get a life
>>584384990you mean boyfriendalso >competing against each other for clothwtf
>>584385090The first one will be YWNBAW just for you.
they shouldve added sod bfd and gomeregan
>>584385092she's respeccing to holy at 60, silly anon sama
>>584384990Your gf should cheat on you with me!
Give dwarves the WC3 Mountain King Avatar cooldown that makes them bigger and gives them increased AP/SP+Health and everyone would play dwarves
In all seriousness is it too late to get into Forever if you've missed the beta or are you behind the curve?
>>584385290its all over bro you gotta go back to wc3 now
>>584385290see>>584383664
>>584385290It's over lil gup
>>584385245That is a warrior ability not dwarf racial.
>>584384765but they stated in the podcast that the new buff would make it almost equal, yet that is not the case its not even close, the issue is the discrepancy
>Horde Sky Elf>Druid>body type 2>blue skin, pink hair and eyes, white tattoosIt's gaming time. Just trying to come up with a surname. What's a catchy surname for an Alice?
>>584385390That's retoilet shit, who cares. Just give it to everyone
>>584385174>Obsessed with tranniesYeah that checks out
>APG troons and fur fags having a melty while my vibe coded UI makes cool red white and blue confetty explosions when i gank a shitterit do be like that lmao
>>584384941Exp from kills in a dungeon run still averages out to 15% of a level
>>584385460Alice Cawksaqqa
>>584385460Inchains
im gay btw
dwarves need a racial bonus for being drunk
>>584385460>tattoos Degenerate
objective fact: heirlooms should be added
>>584379018Is ret paladin actually decent dps? How the fuck does it do good DPS you legitimately just stand there and auto attack
>>584385650chat is this truke?
>>584385770It has the Aggrend bonus
>>584385460Alice Sinroots
>>584385751Hot taake: Not only should heirlooms be added, but they should be random world drops.
>>584385460Madeforbig Orccawk
>>584385460Alice Timwhite
>>584379580Elemental during classic
Alex is getting more and more negative, and agitative every streamI think he's going to have a BPD meltdown soon
>>584385290these posts are so fuckin stupid
>>584385290Don’t even bother logging in. You’ll never catch up.
its real
>>584384753that's called a 360 pop shove it actually and it's way harder.
>>584386469You can choose region? Let´s goooo!
Ill be honest bro I got bored of Forever and went back to Burning Crusade. Im more looking forward to WotLK.
>>584385385Where's your tobey mcguire cvck image, gup niggerToo afraid to post a guy who officiates the wedding of his jewish ex wife to a nigger
genuine question, how are all the trans people and 3rd worlders holding up right now? zero real way to make any money off bot farming now or power leveling, mats are hard caped via vendor, and ZERO full on tranny or fur fag races. is it over for retail trooners and 3rd world GDP?
>>584386505that was a treflip actually which is a 360 pop shove it combined with a kickflip
>>584386691a tbc or wotlk forever would have made more sense. more content that everyone likes. classic was a joke that even vanilla players hated after a month of tbc.
So basically the beta ends on 10/19 because there is no way this will be playable
>>584386816>retail troonershave both retail wow and xiv>3rd world GDPosrs exists
>>584386505>that rampMy sides
>>584385569What did you use to make it?
>>584386910Shitty baitReally shitty bait
Genuinely didn't even know that Tobey was married or divorced or officiated the wedding of his ex. Why the fuck do you retards get stuck on the stupidest shit ever? Are you guys just bots?
>>584386816its finally time for gamer dads like yourself to rise up and take over the world of azeroth between your other obligations like taking care of your 40 kids and beating your 11 wives
Gup nigger meltdownPosting tranime too
>>584387052Please kill yourself or talk about WoW, whatever is easier for you.
>>584387050i envy any man who beats a woman
yes chud this is fine and balanced, but a heal for 650 over 2 seconds MUST be nerfed to 450 hp over 2 seconds on a 12 second cooldown
>Skin tone: peach>Hair: blonde>Tits: fakeTime to top the meters
FACT 1:The solution to RMT gold selling is wow token.FACT 2:The solution to dungeon xp farming is level boost.
>>584386947look at the sub numbers. vanilla was mediocre shit that only barely started getting interesting the last couple months with naxxramas.
>>584387261Brown hands typed this>>584387223If a rogue gets a crit ambush on you then you lose. That's how the fucking class works, you retard.
>>584387386i press desperate prayer
>>584387386>healers are supposed to heal for less than players can do damage, that's normal, if you want healers you need 2 for every one enemy, thats good game design.
Bros! I'm poor and unemployed! I'm gonna play this game nonstop
>>584387512here comes the cope
Kermit Sewerslide
>>584387586You got this, mage-bro.
>>584387597I'm jsut pointing out that the BG meta will not include healers in wowf
https://youtu.be/6CRFzPGUPRQ
>>584387179Take your own advice troll
>>584387679Mage?! I was gonna play shaman
>>584385592OH BOY! spend 1h in a run to get 15% of a level at 30. Amazing. That's totally comparable to questing.
>>584387693bg meta is always based on healers, SoD bgs were whoever has the most priests wins
>>584387694>EVERYTHING You NEED To Know
>RedditE
LET ME STEAL ABILITIES/SPELLS LIKE PRIEST IN HEARTH STONE
>>584387845No healer can outheal the damage of my hunter right now, it woud be retarded to bring a healer when you can jsut bring another hunter
>>584386505i'm sorry for my mistake, forgive me jesus
OH NO NO N ONO NO NO NO
>>584387050>>584387221i unironically have 6 children and a wife. i gave up on wow in WoD fully and came back about a year ago. im retired now and in my late 30s. just think about it anons, if you picked working hard and having a family, you could be retired just in time to neglect them for wow forever. non meme im just happy im doing turkey season at the end of this month just in time for it to be over and into worlo forlo into thanksgiving.
>>584387921ok but bgs dont start till 60 like the rest of the game, hunter have always ran the low brackets
Class for this feel?
>>584385592If you were to manage to completely clear dalaran sewers and reset in under 12 minutes at level 30, in one hour you would still not be equal to questing xp rates.
when are we going back to era bros
>>584388035Warlock
>>584387236top dis tauren dicc
>>584387947That's literally describing how horizontal progression works in every game that has it.
>>584387985>uhh the game for healers starts at 60, and that's a good thing!
https://xpoff.com/threads/wow-forever-free-trial-logo-datamined.103627/OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>584388208the game starts at 60 for everyone, meta implies max level, no one is thinking about level 20 warriors when talking about meta dps, thats why if you want to talk about a low level meta you explicitly specify that, which you didnt
>>584379018>and the orc women, and orc children tooi know the feel for this, its call human male paladin. the absoluty non tranny combo. trannys will cope and say>pp...ppp...put on the dresslmfao, sure lil bro, try stepping up ur DPS if you can.
Patientgamerdads we wonnered
>>584388303literally every starting zone is dead
>>584387223>450 hpwtf is it really that bad?I can do 1k in 2 seconds
>>584387958have a happy fall with your family big guy
PROPHETIC
>>584388357>why can't I find a healer for my groupnow you know why
>mage is the least played class on horde pvpIm about to do some nasty things with frostfire, you guys don't even know yet
>>584388571i am the healer
>>584388496even know i make fun of the trannys on here, and the 3rd worlders, and the zoophiles, i just want all of /wowfg/ that i pray every day (non mem) that you all know of Jesus Christ. You, all of you, are worthy of his love and mercy, and he accepts all of you, its not too late for salvation, but the hour is late. Truley /wowfg/ i love you all.
>>584385770Seal twist
https://suno.com/s/8UB6h9dfD2veCIM0
>>584370018threadly guild recruitment post>20m>PvP>horde>EST>raid times TBDprogression focused, casuals are welcome too. we'll have a more laid-back 10m group on off-days.<Remigration>https://discord.gg/TAvXMh3zymentally ill threadposter
>class is good in beta>gets nerfed to shit for actual release>class is shit in beta>gets buffed to godmode in actual releasebelieve ele shaman bros
>>584385770it doesn't, this is assuming gear that we know will not exist
>3 different raid sizes on launchHow much of a logistical nightmare is this going to be for guilds? Is everyone just planning on pugging everything?
>>584386207Genuinely the ugliest bitch ever in hollywoodShe must be a 2/10
>>584387261botting dungeons is how RMTers level accounts to sell that streamers buy
>>584388303They have the chance to do something kinda cool here actually, 1-20 in Vanilla is a lot more substantial a game than 1-20 in Cata, assuming they do the 1-20 trial.
>>584388972guilds will be 20 man, will split for 10 and pug 40 since it's a single meme boss ala VoA or TB
>>584388960They genuinely thought ele was in a good place to release beta youre a fucking retard if you think they'll suddenly be capable of fixing it now.
>>584388957>if rogue wants to dpsWHAT ELSE WOULD HE DO HUH? DUMB COW
>>584370018>mfw having a blast
>>584387849Orc totems look so dogshit compared to Tauren and Troll.
>>584387261>the solution to RMT is to inflate the economy with even more ways to buy goldI wish we could cut off internet to the third world
>>584389149Tank
>>584387849I should be able to pick up my totem and hit someone with it
Hey retoilets how much does it burn, knowing you've spent the last 22 days defending skyborne, only for the devs to say no to bringing retail races to wow forever, ooooo that's gotta sting
does the stress test mean they arent splitting NA and EU?
>>584389367You can do that in SoD.https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=237577/totem-of-unholy-might
>>584389297thats the solution they did in retail, dont see why the same wont happen in nuretail
>>584389287What do tauren totems look like? I dont think I have ever seen one
>>584389149THERES A GUY NAMED ROGUE
>>584389287Just like everything orcish
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/temporary-economy-holds-for-rmt/2381433RMT SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>584388410>>584383664Poorfag bros, we wonnered.
>>584389473But RMT infests retail just as much if not more than it did before the token existed, so what did it solve exactly?
>>584387261The real solution to gold selling is to minimize the amount of power a player can get with gold.
Imagine being a paypig right now
>>584389478Tauren totems look like original shaman totems in classic.
>>584389606>SAAAAR DO NOT REDEEAM
For legacy talents, do all your character share the same tree or do they just have the same amount of total points to spend how they like individually?
>>584389606id say it hurt the overall gold supply and made people buy tokens more, which will probably happen here, but then again im not blizz so it wasnt my choice!
>he buyed?>release ze free trial
>>584388960What class thats good now that you think will get fucked in the actual release?
>>584389883*clicks refund*hehe, nothing personel :3
>>584383664>israelHOLY SHIT DIAMOND HANDS BROS WON
so the scourge btfo'd like half the humans and most high elves right? why did they just chill and do nothing after that? what's the lore?
Anyone rolling troll shaman? Just curious if beserking stacks with other attack speed boosts Rage of the farseer + flurry + manual crowd pumler would bring it near +100% attack speed if it stacks.Can you also activate crowd pumler and switch weapons and keep the use effect on?I like the idea of big windfury crits with a two hand but I think it might be fun to do a more elemental enhancement hybrid where I'm melee weaving with chain lightning and then using dual wield daggers/fist weapons for fast heavy burst to proc elemental deviation/Maelstrom weapons and running out and reset with earthbind and ghostwolf. Maybe it might to try it on dwarf dor extra mace crit and being small so you can run in and out more unnoticed.
>>584389883Free trial surely means they have to add the experience eliminator, right? Otherwise you're giving trial players a gameplay advantage by letting them play level 20 twinks.
>Available October 19thPoorfags...we lost...
>>584389990They're nerfing berserking anyway
>add call of the elements to make totem management less annoying>make it cost 25% of your mana so you can almost never do it as you're moving from pack to pack in dungeons unless you dont use abilities or sit down to drinkebin
>>584390309go play retail
we need to talk...
ive never picked orc or human but i cant play tauren or dwarf in this retarded remix
>>584389990ew toilet modelyou cant stack all buffscrowd pummeler buff goes away when you change weaponno dual wielding shaman in classic
>>584390441I will not
>>584389990Berserking stacks but it's noobtrap and shit. 10% for 10 seconds every 3min is half a percent averaged (stacking with cooldowns won't double it either)You won't use crowd pummeler because it's low damage, of course it won't stay on switch.
>>584390505you need to kill yourself
Dwarf stoneform should be changed to 15% less damage taken from all sources.
retail is a slur, we call it "modern" now
>>584390939only if it keeps the bleed/poison etc wipe
>>584382130you will never be a women
>>584390939it should make you sink and able to walk underwater
remove windfury from the game.
>>584391164no one would play shaman anymore
>ret paladin tank in deadmines needs on two boss drops then just ditches after getting smelting pantsyeah that's the last time I take a paladin that's anything but a healsissy
>>584390939Sorry, putting this on orcs.
>>584391287NOOOOOOOO
>>584383664I knew they would do this after the tournament
>>584391157>wants to ban cars>wants to ban horsesyou are here>wants to ban bicycles>wants to ban walking
>>584391157mage for evil poc rp
what do we think bros?
>>584391157NPC leaders with this feel?
>>584391240>>584391164As long as WF totem is in I'm not playing a cuck that has to refrain from dropping 4% crit totem for self to drop a totem that affects only others.
>>584391280>steals stam/spirit leather>leaves The mind of a retardin works in mysterious ways. I mean not even staying for the chance of Smite's Hammer dropping?
Why is the stress test separate from the beta tho? Is it going to be level capped to like level 10?
>>584386956Tranime leftist pretending it hasn't spent the last 72 hours on r/fauxmoi and r/popculturechat celebrating that c-uck shit
>>584391157>NYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT MY CITY TO SMELL LIKE HORSESHIT!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?!?Hunter.
>>584391045>a womenGood morning, saars!
>>584391417>suspected accounts will get flagged and put in gay baby jail
Why won't Big B do the one thing that can stop RMT: disable trading and the profession limit?
>>584391417So they are going to let AI decide if you bought gold and then have someone see what the AI hallucinated and approve the ban without actually checking if the AI was correct
>>584391751And you will keep being subbed!
>>584391541Broken bot?
>>584391675>gay baby jail
>>584391417They are doing this for streamers specifically. Anything is good desu. This game has been a literal toilet for gold buying dieties to shit on everyone since vanilla.
Bros what does it feel like to be loved by a woman...
>>584389558RMT tech for people who want to play this slop: don't buy gold -- buy a stack of felcloth, stack of thorium bars, a couple righteous orbs, and sell those for gold.
>anni servers getting raped>can't even do my sad, pathetic hyjal run
>>584391417favela monkey gets thrown in prison in real life and now it gets it's accounts frozen out like it's living in chinaabsolutely dystopian no rent for you, jose
>>584391157>always right and doing the best thing for the citizens.tyrande until the breast milk drinkers got a chance for their patented woman character assassination
Thoughts on a frostfire build that uses shatter and fingers of frost to get heating up procs?Not sure if I should skip blastwave and the fire talents and just get ice barrier
>>584391851Yet you also recognize the term, curious.
About 2 hours of access is all I need. Just wanna look at the talents myself before the game launches. I ain't wasting time on a wiped beta.
>>584390939It should be able to do that
>>584392260ok, boomer, just spin up one of the dozen vibe coded forever sites and look up all that and more
Considering leveling an undead rogue to kill OLYMPUS members
Wanted to main a warlock on alliance and it's honestly disheartening that 90% of the opposing faction has racials designed to counter your shit.Do i just make an orc? Undead look like shit.
>>584392260I just want to do the Skelf zone since I'm probably not gonna make one for launch.
>>584392260>Just wanna look at the talentsWowhead?
>>584392523ganking on the PvE server?
>>584392523hes on PvE
>>584392523>Considering leveling an undead rogue to kill OLYMPUS members
>>584389558little do they know i bought a shit ton of gold on Saturday and I DIDNT STREAM IT, ho ho take that blizzdrones, the pvp duel is mine! god is great!
they are shipping 2 weeks you know...
>>584392764What's the problem here?
>>584391417I see no problem with this. I'd gladly accept a 1% false positive rate if it meant reducing RMT by 90%. The moment botting stops being profitable, it'll disappear almost immediately.
>>584392764mooootually exclusive
>>584392662Wow ngl feel pretty bad for gen z kiddos. Half the wemon are fat and the other half is just as ugly as a dude pretending to be a girl ontop of the other half of men that pretend to be woman. Its like the while generation of kids got one shot with the goy beam.
>>584392662The numale to tranny pipeline is astouding
>>58439276421 DAYS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>584392764I don't like that this is mutually exclusive with class buffs honestly.
>>584392764It's over.Doa.
>>584392996muutally*
>>584392893And the 2% that look fine learn they should be making internet porn by the time they enter school
>>584392662I can see getting really drunk and piping this creature in male bathroom ngl
>Greenfield confirmed draeneis coming in the first Forever Expansion on the podcast
>>584392662genuine improvementhis dating prospects went up by tenfold as well, ironically probably even with women too
>>584391417Nice. I can still buy gold on my alt account and just test if it gets the funds frozen or not.
>>584393123He also said Outlands was going to be split into raids, not a continent or zones. So your raid will say go to outlands and do the quests in Terrokar Forest.
>>584392662Imagine having this mental illness and not only embarrassing yourself but putting your family through this shit. Fuckinf disgraceful.
Imagine being a scale sissy and a furry failson and doing free advertising for blizzard for the last three weeks promoting skyborne, only for them to come out in the last 48 hours and say no retail races are coming to wow foreverHOLY SHIT talk about getting turbo c-u-c-k-e-d publicly
>>584392662Be careful out there, bros
>>584393123cope retroony
>>584393185>Gays don't want trannies, they want men.>Biological straight women don't want trannies, they want men.>Biological gay women don't want trannies, they want men but pretend to like women.>Trannies don't want other trannies, they want biological women.>Society wants trannies, to kill themselvesIt's a sexual fetish that not even other trannies are into lololol.
>>584392662
>>584389859Your account accumulates Legacy Points, while each character has a talent-tree-esque tree for you to fill out individually.
>>584391751Nah there will be a tranny mod checking your chat log then determining from there.It'll be obvious within the past few dozen chat entries whether you're a normal person, or a flaming faggot. Because every flaming faggot can't go one conversation without mentioning how gay they are, their ebf, etc.>>584391851Shane was right by the way.
>porn addicts convince themselves they're women, mutilate themselves and then kill themselveslmao
>>584392662wig or hair transplant? he was like norwood 5
>>584393185The only people that want that guy are other men in programmer socks pretending to be women
>>584393501Dykes want other man hating dykes, not self-hating men pretending to be women.Trannies also want men, but therein lies the tranny conundrum... straight men want women, gay men want men, trannies are failing both checks.
>>584393579
>>584393123Draenei aren't even sexy I don't understand where you peoplw get this idea from. Ugly hair and eyes, horns look like misplaced nelf ears. They are cool because of their satyr legs and alien design. But not sexy. Sexy race females are ones like human, night elf, gnomes, tauren and pandas. Draenei are cool as fuck but they are not attractive. You need to roll a male draenei sometime man.
He's so pissed he's posting the fake reddit side by side tranny tranforms NO RETAIL RACES IN WOW FOREVER
>>584393123why does it have feet
>>584393123Big if true
Can someone explain the hardcore raider to tranny pipeline?
World of Warcraft: Forever?
>>584394239Autism Venn diagram
>>584394239The higher the amount of autism that can be channeled into a hobby, the more likely the troonometer starts to redline. See: Speedrunning
>>584394239They want to feel special and being a tranny makes them feel special
>>584394239trannies are just losers who are looking for attention
who has hand of ragnaros prio?
is my gaymer station read for wofova
>>584394239Trannies love attention even if it means embarrassing themselves and their family
>>584394239Westoid slop is always a tranny containment zone, wowg was full of them. They even infested another game after it took off in the west, except straight men just plain quit that game rather than pretending their own game isn't full of fags, prnouns, furfags, etc.
>>584393360they already added blood elves. green draenei and tolvir worgen are on the way.
>>584389963Lich King mind-whammied Arthas into being his death knight agent of turning the human Kingdom of Lordaeron into a sea of zombos, then had that sea of zombos surge northeast into Quel'thalas to make elf-zombos and use their big mana Well as a ritual component to revive Kel'Thuzad as a super-lich, so said super-lich could himself perform a ritual to summon Big Archie, general of the Burning Legion (who was actually behind Lich King and all this shit, in their bid to snack on the Well of Eternity in Kalimdor and conquer Azeroth once and for all).After Big Archie got summoned, he crushed Dalaran like a sand castle, then portal'd his demon forces + the elite undeadbros, like Arthas, Kel'thuzad, and necromancers, over to Azshara on Kalimdor and starting mass summoning enough demons/undead to march through Azshara -> Ashenvale -> pre-Fel'd Felwoods -> Hyjal, but got Wisp'd in the end, causing Arthas and Kel'thuzad to flee and return to Lordaeron (the world was much smaller at this time of writing).While back in Lordaeron, Arthas sent the Dreadlords packing, then got Kel'thuzad, Sylvanas, and his undead forces to start squashing out the last holdouts of the living, only to get mass-DM'd by the Lich King, who was freaking the fuck out and going through a mid-unlife crisis with his powers+control over the undead waning. Arthas and Kel'thuzad ducked an assassination attempt from Sylvanas, who was among those who'd broken free from the absolute control w/ the Lich King weakening, then beat undead feet to a ship, to Northrend, where they skedaddled through a bunch of shit, including Illidan, who had tried to just burst Northrend up like a mana bomb. This ended with Arthas taking the Frozen Throne and donning the armor of the Lich King, basically fusing their souls/essence/yadda yadda yadda.In short, lots of undead under iron will control of the Lich King, until Lich King got mana bomb'd (incomplete), which threw off the absolute part of absolute control a bit.
Post what you will do in the 3 days of stress testI'm personally going to get to like level 10 at most and getting addons and shit setup
>>584394702>there were no trannies in xiv before wow players joinedwhat kind of delusion is this
>>584394702>westoidtrannies are all over the chinese and korean games you love so much.
>>584394460in vanilla every guild had someone who pretended to be a woman to get raid loot that got found out and disappeared from the game never to be seen, but i remember you Patster from Veneratios Firetree PVP, I remember you fruitcake, you can run but you can't hide, I will find you and will shove the Benediction i finally got so far up your ass it comes out of your mouth
OPT IN BROS IT'S OUR TIME
>>584394898The "delusion" aka historical account of a 2013 player? It was way more minimal and limited to 1 datacenter.
>>584394728No CLAP retail CLAP races CLAP in CLAP wow CLAP forever Make your objections heard predditor https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x53nca/most_recently_interview_is_literally_making_me/
>>584394702the irony of posting that alongside a XIV gifthis is bait
post cool wow images.
>>584394239Trannies are men who deprived of attention seek out every channel available to obtain it. They dress as women because it generates more (negative) attention in public. They preach online because other trannies give them more attention. Most importantly they try to overtake any hobby they can that hasn't already been infected with trannies, because it draws the most (negative) attention than anything else they can do.
>>584395121
>>584381249dont care still going fem skelf with slutty naked mog for all classes + fem human priest/lock/pala
w-warlock bros....*cough*....*wheeze*....I don't...feel so....huahh.....*dies*
>>584395085blood elf is a retail race. all races are retail races actually. no race has ever been removed.
>>584395381[You have been turned into a Soul Shard]
>>584395256Make one where a chad walks up and lights the corpse and tranny flag on fire.
>>584394532GM > GM's girlfriend > GM's boyfriend > GM's friends > Officers > (You)
>>584395506you forgot the guys who rmt'd and paid for one. those come before officers.
Are there any cool ‘secrets’ in Dalaran? Like that spells word in SFK everyone was gooning over but then no one created it
>>584395381>*meticulously manages corruption and agony perfectly on every dungeon mob only to barely match the dps of a mage spamming frostbolt/arcane explosion*w-warlock chads rise up haha..
mage t1 stats on release lol
>>584395063It's because the game is a knockoff second life simulator with all the mods, not because some boogeyman wow player demographic
>>584395317You cared an awful lot the last 22 days, sir
I am qualified to say druids are 2x stronger than priests right now, little holy sissies cannot compete with my healing
>>584395670>agility, random resistances, shit loads of spirit, schizophrenic magic school spell powervgh...sovl..
why do chuds play a game full of gay npcs
>>584395419actually pretty sick ui
>>584395670>AGI for no reasonYep, that's sovl.
>>584395770>foid modelTranny. If you aren't a tranny have fun not being invited to shit because people assume you are one.
>>584395670>mage t1in what game? mage t1 is arcanist in vanilla
>>584395729Yeah wowg and wowf have definitely demonstrated how heterosexual your community is...
>>584381115I always found it weird how Scarlet Monastery had a full armor crusader armor set for melee chars, and casters really only got the hat. But at the same time you could go get Whitemane's set later on closer to level 60
>>584395317Why did they give SKelves such slutty underwear?
>Autistic trannies minmax>Casual players suck to play withIt's a hunter life for me
>>584395660you take the SFK book to make a dalaran book, then that book summons a boss
>>584395670>agility
>>584395907it's for that wand damage anon don't you want big wand crits?
>>584395928okay you're right it's t2. even better.
>why do chuds play a game full of gay npcsBuck you
>>584395907>>584395928you have to remember there was a chance for these to drop in Molten Core too, the devs had no idea what they were doing
>>584396040TRVE
>LORD AGGREN HEAD MY CALLS....FOR NO APG TRONS OR FUG FAGS, I GIVE YOU MAY LIFE>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>584396052zesty
>>584395935>societal rejects hang out on 4chanshocker
>>584396114Don't you shit talk the corncob staff
>>584394763>>584394763
>>584395780>schizophrenic magic school spell powerdruid is even better: some pieces are healing, some are arcane damage, some are nature damage
new>>584396272>>584396272>>584396272
>>584395670not the actual stats
>>584396301?
>>584388830have fun anonim an only child and my mom was an absolute mentally abusive cunt growing up and to this day, so i cant have children until she's given up hope and not able to treat them as redemption arc bc of elderly status, im doing my best to keep up with my health and game with younger women for this reasoni still wouldnt have 6 though, but i'll def make up for the lost time when it happens
>>584396285you can tell its old because thats not how healing power works>>584396419these arent the actual stats for release
>>584396497it got changed later
>>584396560wait are you talking about vanilla release, i thought you were talking about forever release versions
>>584396685yes
i would come test if they paid me
>89 fucking healing power as a level 19 magethese deadmines runs are actually enraging me
>>584403671skill issue
>>584375675I was never able to watch a full "stream" of anything. At most, I'll watch some clips on youtube.
