Luna 11 out of 10 EditionThread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wqldwLegPo&list=PLGzf_95xpbyYPrevious Mission: >>584320881>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts [Embed]>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY [Embed]>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU [Embed]>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>Twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guidehttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
Is it just me, or is the Arsenal Bird piss easy while both the alicorn and chandelier are borderline impossible without a really coordinated team?
>>584372754
Buddies, we really need to be more coordinated in ACO. If we can get full buddy squads going, no clanfag or metashit could ever bring us down.
>>584373487Arsenal Bird is legit fly behind the thing and shoot it till its dead. Even a team of idiots can manage that. Alicorn and Chandelier require you to actually move and plan your attacks.
So now that the dust has settled: worth the wait?
>>584373526Autists that have fully maxed out cheese planes, you know what to do. Spawncamp them till they realize they need to do something about online
>>584373648Absofuckinglutely.But i do miss the shorter ACs. I beat ACZ last night and forgot it was only like 18 missions long. AC8 took me like a week to beat and I'm still on my second playthrough.
>>584373526GET YOUR MIGGERS AND LAAMs OUT RIGHT NOW
hmm today i feel like playing some co-op assault>take attacker>fighter mission update and third section>take fighter>ground pound mission update and third section>take multirole>get outperformed in bothaughi hate this
>>584373526hope they get chased down by a barricader + mig + TLS morgan stack
>>584373526I seriously hope they suffer the worst of the metafag shit and realize how godawful the online is.
>light fighter>strap fuckhuge fuel tanks on it>ruin the sexy curvesWhyBlock 70 when
>>584374187>>584374530Nothing promotes the need for change more than devs getting their asses publicly clapped.
>>584374638>Helldiver's devs balance the game purely based on user metrics>Play the game and thoroughly prove this is the case>Game stays mismanaged swedish shiteIll believe in the game better when it happens
>>584374971Ill believe in the game getting better when it actually gets better*
>>584374638Yeah but that depends upon a team actually learning the lessons from it. Remember that whole Star Citizen debacle a month back, do you think CiG is actually going to learn anything from that? Of course not. But I believe in PA at least.
>>584375196I cannot fathom that the people running ACO are the same people running the core experience
FOR ANYONE KEEPING TRACK I AM CURRENTLY STUCK ON MISSION 8
>>584375818fly betterand stop using the SU-25
>>584375818GANBARE
>>584375818At least you're getting your money's worth timewise.
>>584375818Nigga just fucking buy the Mirage 2000 and equip UGBs, it's not hard.
(didnt see new thread oops)>>584365062 (You)>>584365749i started crying even more with all the reinforcements but now im being filtered REALLY HARD by the shadowsand im being stubborn and refusing to swap to a plane with qaam because it took me like 40 minutes to get to this point
>>584375818why
>Jap AC8 artwork pre-release>All Tasha>Jap AC8 artwork post-release>All KateEveryone has accepted as well that she married Rex post game.
so was the supposed update today just a belkan psyop
>>584376231GUNS GUNS GUNS
>>584375818I love you buddy, you are gonna make it.
>>584376295Maintenance, not update.
>>584376386>maintenanceoh so the game mode works now?
>>584376479They maintained the same state it was in.It works though yeah.
>>584376479hahano
>Get into an assault match with nothing but LAAM spammers>Both mission updates are naval targets>Oneshot snipe them all with LASMsMatches like this come once in a blue moon but god damn I'm hard as a rock
>>584376920If you wanna run attackers just play warfare. Attackers are usually MVP.
F-14D is a deceptively good plane. Only downside is putting up with Jenkins constantly telling me it's not a good loadout for a ground attack mission.
>>584377718F-14A gets slightly worse A2A but better A2G options with UGBs too. And it's a carrier plane.
>>584377718For singleplayer yes, GPBs also one taps beefy surface targets like Aegis
Did Assault Horizon at least have any good tracks to listen to?
>>584372754Banjo Tewy
>>584375818did you change anything about how you play after the advice that you got from your gameplay stream last time?
>>584377718>>584378136It's pretty damn solid in MP too, been my main plane for a bit now. Super cheap to upgrade, has LAAMs, and can schmoove well enough to dogfight against anything but the high-end fighters.
Starting to think a R63 Rex would have made for an interesting change of silent protagonist for an AC game.
>>584378339yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLqhF2wswYk
>>584378339Yes, the OST was the one saving grace of that game.
Couldn't he have just waited for him to leave before saying that?
Anyone who hates Assault Horizon is a vatnik.
>>584378960/wtg/ is down the hall and to the left
>>584379068Putin lost.
>>584379068mad? watch this swag
>>584379134[[that's a matter of perspective]]
>>584378339yes, if nothing else its soundtrack is absolutely ace combat quality
>>584378834Eh, maybe. I prefer the "old man" bants we get with prof. R63 Cipher is still great though.
>>584378834but then we couldn't bone Kate silly
So close yet so far...
When patch
Done with maxing the tree, now for the S-ranks. I only have 04, 14,15, 28 and 30 for missions where I didn't S-rank, any pitfalls in those I should know?
>>584378339introduced the electric guitar extensively iirc
>>584376920It”s always fun when RNGsus hands you a layout perfectly suited to your suboptimal aircraft.Especially when it’s majorly ship focused.t. Death, Destroyer of Boghammars
For how big a deal they make out of Cope and Tasha not shooting other planes and being great at avoiding missles in singleplayer, they could've at least rewarded a point or two in multiplayer for juking missles.
Will we ever get a volleyball scene in AC?
>>584379595much like the game mode itselfwhat would be the point in that?
>>584376231Use your guns, buddy>>584374217Always the same chuds. I'd say "We should come up with a counter", but all we'd need is a full party of buddies to kick them down a peg.
>>584379249Cipher is definitely the one character being R63 works the best on.>>584379352We could have gotten Ace Yuri?>>584379679Best we got was Tasha and Coster playing basketball.
>>584378960You mean the game that badly tries to say that russians are people too?
>>584379751So I get rewarded for keeping multiple players busy in warfare and allowing attacker frens to farm free.
I wish the online was good. I love the arcade style gameplay but the missions are flat and dull and the grind is ridiculous.
>>584379861>russians are people too[citation needed]
>>584378946Either everyone knew the jig was up and he figured if they were gonna kill you they'd have done so already, or they're both equally big sperglords, one for immediately throwing slurs and the other for responding with an impromptu loredump.The latter is funnier.
>Plays M15 with an F-18C with wingmen in EA-6 & a pair of F-14A's......Maybe this was a bad idea>3-4 attempts laterKills both bombers at the same time while they are on approach to the fleet.>One gets a LASM off as they die>NOOOOOO!!!!!!>Mission complete saved the day the ship was not lost>The anti-ship mission just hit a noncritical area of the shipOn the good side I got to hear a lot of lines as I had shot down both the old guy and the kid first on previous attempts.
>>584379353What's even the best grind? I have Fatsia fatigue.
>>584380267yukes are russianstasha is a yuketasha is a persontherefore...
>>584380314the first thing toprak says to you is something along the lines of "we've clashed with MPs over letting pilots land safelyor something to that effect, to 2 pilots who have crashed no lessBaxter pulling a nordberg is a way funnier narrative though
>>584378946Listen man, those filthy fucking prairiggers need to be reminded of their place at every opportunity.Baxter understood this.
>>584380787Fatsia with SODs can get you 300k per run if you fullclear. Otherwise there's supposedly a farm in the first ISEV mission with the crab sun ships if you memorize the spawn patterns and speedrun it.
>>584380849>nearly gets herself and coster killed on like 2-3 different occasionsthats like 1-6 so -5 people
>>584380787Mission 16 is more efficient if you speedrun every ship and kill the drones as they spawn, like 100k per run on ace, but it's still a boring grind
>>584378960but all of the enemy Russian units after the uprising or whatever it was use actual SS emblems
>>584380787>Achievement Unlocked!>crippling OCD for a sense of accomplishmentill never understand this
Has science gone too far?
>>584381231why is his head so small
>>584381042>but it's still a boring grindI think I'd rather just play the game normally and just unlock stuff whenever I happen to unlock it.
>>584378946Why would he need to wait? Everyone knew who was who. The only reason they didn't wax you there is because Toprak and Tewy want to kill you in the skies.
>>584381263
>>584381435dont forgetTewy's plan/desire to blow up ENSO ORDER had room for Wings to be aliveYou could also argue being incredibly retarded and siccing the entire air force on 3 planes and the equivalent of wake island was an ultimatum for ending the war sooner, also against ENSO's interests
this is Rex's actual head >>584381231and this is the helmet that he wears over it >>584381832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBh9-T4CGRkkino...
Why do americans hate on M30? Did your jewish overlord made the message of Hope and Brotherhood cringe in your country?
>584382183go be an ESL baitposter elsewhere
>>584380868Sotoa dindu nuffin
>>584378834Something something girls can't be aces.
>>584373621I don't want to be cancer, I want to have funJust bring back Infinity rooms with private/cost/etc. settings
>>584382183i love it narratively, but i felt the actual gameplay was lacking, especially in the first half when all you do is shoot down missiles
>>584373847I'm glad that artists are trying to make art for her, but god do I hope that we actually get some good stuff soon
>>584380849Yukes can't be Russians because Yukes are actually kinda cool, unlike Russians.
>>584382404Yes, gameplay wise it's lacking. It has nothing to do with "submarine fights" like Hrimfaxi\Sciinfaxi\Alicorn.I'm talking about narratively tho. Just finished watching a streamer that said that "it ruined it for him because it's my hero academia".Obviously the nigger played only 7
best plane is F22-A raptor fuck russia
What's a good attacker i should invest into for MP?
There was a giant beam for TLS in 7 right here it's like you're getting microwaved on the receiving end
>>584380849>yukes are russiansYukes won a war, so your analogy is wrong on item one. Try again.
>>584382578if its the best plane how come you dont even know how to put respect to its military designation
>>584382554>>584382838sorry, anons, but the ruskies and their planes are here to stay
>>584382880I QAAM at you
>it’s a “Coster accidentally plays his Estovakian Baby Lounge Core over an open channel” mission
>>584382880Sure, as the designated fodder aircraft do instantly die to the canon western plane good guys. Just like real life!
Humiliation...ritual...
>>584382987>Estovakian Baby Lounge Corewhat
>>584378919The multiplayer was also pretty fun and the best iteration PA has put out yet.
>>584382081kek let it be known!
>>584382850idk wtf that is
>>584382880
>>584383459*PSM dodges it*heh... nothin personnel
>>584372754whoa mamma
are these guys wearing Korean WAVEPAT? I've been wondering if there's actually a cohesive uniform between the armed forces of the FCU, the Army was using DCU fatigues on the Hour Zero shorts
hololive tested and greenlighted the gamemore millions to come>we mainstream now
Share your emergency sorties and scrambles if you're in the squadron, it works>Create a party>Tell squad chat to look for takers>When someone replies you click on their name to invite themI give it 5 or a few more minutes so people can finish their missions
>>584383763>She didn't fucking do that Rex>She cried when she stepped on sheep shit once
>>584383763why is the opponent on the same comms line
>>584384259koth_thevealltalk enabled
>Maintenance supposed for game adjustments>It finishes>No adjustments>As unstable as it was everWhat was even the point
>>584384259purely for the purpose of shit-talkingAce Combat warfare has been an open Skype call for decades
>>584384259Not having proximity chat on is an actual war crime.
>>584384353to mantain it
>>584384259Morale boost
>>584384435«I want to understand the enemy»«farts and crashes on the ground»
>>584384371I sometimes hate how inconsistent it is, because most of the time it seems like you're the only one hearing most of it unless the characters specifically tune into an enemy frequency or vice versa
>>584384353>>584384462ACO is like one of those watches that you have to rewind periodically
>>584384259>why is the opponent on the same comms lineI don't think they are except the very few times it's stated by allies that enemies are on open comms like the migger shadow squad or when the boiling battleship starts playing the captain's suicide note
IM BREATHING SHALLOW AND MY TONGUE IS DRY
>>584384730It certainly feels like it's running on one of those, and not a nice Swiss one either.
>>584384976Have you tried licking Kate’s sweaty abs?
NOT A SINGLE EMERGENCY SORTIE TODAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JN1zin816MI really like this theme, it's too bad it only plays for a minute max in this shitty multiplayer
>>584385126if only
>>584382576>bringing up my hero academia of all thingsA sign that the streamer is already not worth watching
>>584385198i have never once seen an emergency sortie
Here comes the boomHere comes the boom
>>584385329I once got two back to back then never saw them for days
why is this one not workingused a 1600 point berkut and a 1750 point fullback but still 0/10
my game would bug out as soon as we got a scramble. nice flying with you buddies
>>584385494It has to be the base cost, before any parts and abilities are applied
>>584385494It's worded like shit. The plane's base cost *before upgrades* needs to be over 1,500
>>584385494it's base aircraft cost with no parts
>>584385494use pixy
>>584384054And several of them played 7 both JP & EN while Gura tried out PW.The sales will continue until Harrier, YAK-141, A-7, F-8, A-4, F-5,& F-20 are playable again.
>>584385504I'm sorry, buddy. Guess we're gonna start it with a three-buddy team?
>>584384054Can John Hololive bring back the Tornado?
>>584385759Are any of these roasties playing their first run on Elite with normal("""expert""") controls? Otherwise I don't care.
>>584385868Luna and she did it only using the A10
So i finished 8 and had the time of my life. I have Zero because of the pre-order, and also 7 that i barely touched. Which one should i play next ?
Sotoa had a noble causeI hope they win at some point
>>58438612404 -> 5 -> Zero Easy to emulate
>>584386140Will somebody get these NOMADS out of here.
>>584386194
>>584386140>noble cause>we fucked up our own land give us yourseeeeehhh
9 games, not a single emergency sortieTHANKS BAMCOREALLY COOL
>>584386293That's Yuktobania's faultBesides they're nomads, tied to no lands, taking from the world what they need and waste nothing.They represent true freedom
>>584386509s*toan hands typed this post
>>584386509Complete bullshit PR and Cope even tells you as muchThe real world equivalent would be Ted Cruz putting on a cowboy hat and larping as a farmer
>>584386140The Yukes should had followed Osea's example and Hoffnung the entire country.
>>584386509Sotoa uses all parts of the cities they bomb. They waste nothing.
>>584386509
>>584386671kek
>Warfare>Sub 10k point retard spamming "Thanks for the game!" all matchI am unreasonably upset by this
>>584386509Get off the computer, Toprak
>>584387109Nice job! Nice job! Nice job! Nice job! Nice job!
>Belka influenced Yuktobania to begin conducting false flags against Osea>Yuktobania abandoned their war with Sotoa to go against Osea>Yuktobania failed to stop Sotoan Aggression because Osea almost captured Cinigrad>Sotoan strength grew unabated because Belka weakened Yuktobania with an Osean InvasionBelka caused everything
>>584387109Could be worse the game could have aThis way! This way! button
>>584387305Booyah!
>>584387305>Booyah!
>>584387305>>584387349Help! Help! Booyah!
>damn it get it together guys!AWACS said calmly as the game booted me back to main menu
Boo!
>was out of town for a week>time to get back to MPHow badly am I going to be face fucked in warfare because I didn't get to spend the last week grinding out planes?
WHY IS THIS EVEN A THING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JUST DROP THE LOBBY
>>584387569Not that badly as long as you're decent at the main game, I haven't been having a super hard timeIf you're using standard controls you'll get raped though
>>584387603That's John AceCombat, don't underestimate him
>No updateWhat the fuck man
>>584387109What plane was he flying? He could've been mindbroken for using planes that cant do anything in assault like fighters without LAAMs or starter attackers I say this because I almost got to that state once
>>584387678maybe he was the fifth wing...
>>584387569People have already had 5th gens for more than the past week, things aren't exactly differentWait for like a month until every match has a maxed out Morgan in it
Is doing the attackers only and ECM only runs on Ace difficulty reasonable? Or should I wimp out for Elite?
>>584387852Mirage with UGB so no excuse he couldn't just farm ground targets
>>584387927Ace isn't that much harder than Elite
>>584387675I've got some leveled planes, my F/A-18E is nearly maxed out, but it's still an F-18 and I expect tons of players are running around with leveled FA-36s and Su-57s and I'll spend every warfare game being molested by IEWS buffed bullshit. >>584387909God I hope they add cost limits soon.
>>584387927EA-36 makes ECM a breezeAttackers only have the A-6 for carrier missionsuse this information wisely
>>584387965Yeah no excuses then, I even find multirole gameplay pretty chill for some reason.
>>584387603if both sides equal amounts of npc the match actually starts
Is the Berkut supposed to feel like such garbage in 8? Why did it get kneecapped? was it to make the 57 Stand out more?
>>584388151it's nice not being a flying brick and not being completely gimped against air targets if the need arisest. berkut ugb player
SpoilersI'm older than Baxter....
>>584387161I like to imagine Toprak was the Strangereal equivalent of a Turkish nationalist on the Internet
>>584388681it seems like its spot on the aircraft tree came first, and then its stats came second in order to try to balance how early of an unlock it was
Haven't touch MP yetJust how fucked will I be when I do start?
>>584387569Well, either the matchmaking took pity on me and game me some nuggets or there's more normal players than I thought. I shot down a nugget in an F-4e twice before I ignored him entirely so I didn't spend the whole game shoving QAAMs up his ass. I bullied the nugget in the Morgan instead
>>584387569I'm still not max level and have no lvl 20 planes yet I've managed to get myself into the "high MMR" bracket". If you're not shit at the game you'll stomp whatever noobs the game matches you with until you win so much that it starts matching you with TLSniggers and full party gigafags.
CALL ME UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPI'VE GOT TO FEEEEEEEEEEEEL ALIVEEEEEEEEE
>>584389041not nearly enough wolf iconography
>>584389041>posted from my flat in Dinsmark
>Get to level 15 cap on Berkut. >have fun doing high speed bombing runs >Do not feel like grinding out.>Decide to invest in fullback.>Unlock lugbs.>mfw
>>584389101>next game is metashit>fag in an f-22 beelines at me at the start of the game and hounds my ass until he QAAMs meVery cool, thanks PA.
>>584389041OOMPA LOOMPA DOOPA DIPPITY DOOFSU WAS MADE IN 1992OOMPA LOOMPA DIPPITY DEEWITHOUT OSEANS WE WOULD NOT BE FREE
>>584389145nyo.......
>>584389902oof
Can PA do a PSA that Emergency Sorties reward 3 gold contracts for S/A ranks, that the time bonus is massive,so people should in fact not << Delay the final attack! >> ?Please. The scars of Infinity run deep.
I really wish the single player unlocks would fucking state what mission it's in by number instead of op names
>hadn't played holy trinity since probably before 7>boot up 04>sun is fucked>update from pcsx2 1.5 to 2.9>fixed>comes prepackaged with a nice launcher so i can get rid of pcsx2bonus tooThank you based devsHopefully the black lines in 5 and Zero were fixed tooTime to actually pay attention so I can into geopolitics now
Multirole feel a pointless online. Why wouldn't you just use a fighter or attacker?
>>584390036never played ACI, haven't played ACO yet.what does the >Delay the final attack!meme actually mean?
>>584390292>he doesnt know operation broncobuster off the top of his headyeah its retarded
>>584390347Playing the packed in Zero for the first time in like 5 years made me really realize how much aggression we've lost from non boss enemies. It was really tense how every non boss green plane hopped on your ass instantly in zero if you were not looking even on hard difficulty. I wonder if I can mod 8 to be like that too.
>>584390390>operation broncobusterthat's one of the only operation names that I do actually remember
>>584390480thats the savian mercs, they make sure your UI is red all mission
Am I retarded or are SAAMs fucking dogshit?
i love coop warfare
>>584390789Bravo indeed
>>584390679SAAMs are mid, codl've even be good but LAAM exists
>Unlocked Flanker and Berkutare they any good or is it the mig31 until max rank?
>>584391303>QAAM / HVAA>UGB>PSMsThey're decent, not top tier.If you like em they'll do fine. If you don't care for the planes themselves they're not necessary
>>584391303save for the EA36 and maybe an attacker/bomber
>>584390370In ACI you needed to kill all targets to get S rank on emergency sorties, so if someone attacked the TGTs before cleaning up everything else, it would be an A and not an S
why no hcinese planes
>>584391303The Su-33 is quite solid for what it is.
>SASMs one shot the Swarm Dronesneat
>>584391483Politics
>>584391483Supposedly the devs did try to get Chinese and S.Korean planes in but were turned away by both
>>584391458but was "delay the final attack" something that the AWACS said based on some trigger, or something that players would say to one another, or something else?
>>584391483It great dishonor to have even the possibility of superior Han engineering flown by bad guys or blown up.
>>584391303Flanker sees some decent results in deathmatch, but the Mig31 performs just as well if not betterBerkut has UGB which is based and can actually ground pound relatively well if need be.Mig 31 is all you need until you unlock the SU-34 for A2G, Barricader for EW harassment/Multirole and the SU-57 for turnfighting. Even then the Mig 31 will still compete with any of the aforementioned planes due to the fact that it's SP.W loadout and abilities are just absolutely insane. It gets three out of the four best missile types and it comes in a plane that handles well with high top speed.I still use my Mig-31 semi frequently as a max rank player. It's too good on Fort Grays (Warfare} or any assault map that has fighter preference.
>>584388720How's the wrist old man?
>>584390480Granted they aren't instant kills now and it's partially a skill issue, but to be honest, I've been nailed so many times by missiles in the ac8 campaign. SAMs and their ilk especially are fucking obnoxious on some missions. I think making them super aggressive would turn the game into some PW Conquest tier fuckery
>>584390480You can even play 7 and feel the same. They've dummed down/limited the ai way too much in 8. At no point in the campaign did I feel under threat from any air assets.
>>584391672No, it was a text message available for players
>>584390356You can get 3 stars by blowing up a couple enemies quickly and then swap to ground pounding for easy points.
>>584391973Part of it is your wingmen, they're attracting enemies but they're also unkillable.
>>584385759IRyS also played PW at one point but may have ragequit
>>584392193I hadn't considered that aspect, that makes sense. They should've added more fighters to compensate but I reckon they were also trying to make the game more accessible to new nuggets.
>>584392748I think what would help is that enemies can only be distracted by Tasha and such for so long, and will eventually go after you.
>>584384054She's so retarded(affectionate), I was hoping she'd play this.
>Charlie>Hololive>1m copies sold in a weekAre we mainstream now?What are the odds we get GOTY?
>>584393063>What are the odds we get GOTY?Decent I'd say. The only other big mainstream games I can really think of that came out this year are Resident Evil 9 and Forza Horizon 6.
GOTY is going to GTA, regardless of that game's actual quality.All game award shows are rigged.
>>584392039ahh, ty
>>584393250GTA isn't going to release this year lmao
>>584393250That's not releasing this year is it?
>>584393291>>584393307Isn't it November, or did they delay it?
>>584393250If it doesn't get delayed again, yea. There's no way it doesn't because that's just how these things work. >>584393307Sometime in November iirc.
>>584393250Game journos are gonna give GOTY to Mixtape or something stupid instead. AC8 will sweep some awards though
A huge congratulations to Belka,For once in their miserable existence, not being fucking involved in a chain of dominoes that ends with some world changing war!
>>584393379Nah it'll be out Nov 19th
>>584393063>>584393169I kind of hope that if we do go GOTY PA will have more leverage in getting the Chinks and Gooks in on AC9
>>584393784Its not a matter of leverage. Each flavour of Asian just hates the other ones forever.
As someone who plays on normal difficulty, this is one of those games where I seemingly can't improve and am simply at awe at the skill of good players. I just don't get it but I have fun at least.
>>584393784That has nothing to do with it. Xi told his company no you will not have my planes in that game. Worst Korea is umm idk just being usual Asians being petty hate each other thing??
>>584393784japan would have to conquer china and korea again to get the license to those planes
>>584393909sure, they hate each other, but they still might want to show off their own country's products in a new Ace Combat game if they see AC games as being high-profile enough that the advertising value outweighs their animosity"leverage" might not have been the right word for it
>>584393986What don't you get? Explain a little or post some webm of your gameplay.
>>584393731Anon...
>>584394117The problem is a lot of companies only want their product shown off positively, so they'll have things like "my plane cannot be seen crashing or being shot down" in the contract, which is absurd in an Ace Combat game.Asian izzat.
>>584393986the gameplay barely changed since the PS2 era, so most people have over 300+ hours at this point. The key things are tracking and managing your speed
>>584393986Are you using expert controls?
>hmmmm today I will play warfare>3 Barricaders and 1 MorganYeah fuck this shit, the more infuriating thing is that they were garbage and the planes were doing the job for them, Morgan couldn't dogfight for shit and got bailed by one of the Barricaders and one of them got gunned down.
>>584394117Not going to happen in this climate Chengdu sent books and stuff to Kono saying we want to be in the game too. Xi told them hell no and they had to retract the offer they made to PA..
>>584394369>add point limits>don't use them anywherebravo bamco
>>584394251I saw that, but how would that implicate Belka? Isn't Osea and Leasath just as involved then?
>>584394251what did leasath do?
>>584394369I wish there was a way to make guns way better and build that way sacrificing everything else to fuck all the Electronic warfare fuckfaces but its such a slog
>>584394163Basically what >>584394318 said, tracking mostly. Positioning the plane correctly to dogfight effectively. The shadow fight in mission 28 took a while.>>584394325I started with 7 on basic but switched to expert for 8.
>>584394251>Why are we bombing Belka, sir? Aren't we Belkan?>Because those damn Belkans were too weak and allowed Osea to defeat us. Long live Belka!>Long live Belka!
>>584391815I'm durable
>>584394449>>584394459>>584394721The spears hit Enso facilities worldwide.For all we know Enso might be a Belkan corporation.It would certainly make sense given their history
would you guys be okay with the Chinese and Korean planes coming in as slightly-different, legally-distinct models named stuff like "CX" and "KX" instead of "J-20" and "KF-21?"I normally hate that in games, but I wonder if it might make sense here>>584394424I find it hilarious that Xi would spend any part of his day personally weighing in on the plane roster for a video gameI was hoping that he was old enough that he might just die in time for his successor to let Chinese planes be included in AC9 or AC10, but apparently he's only 73a very pruney, wrinkled 73
Shadow 22 should've been flying KAAN instead of Su57s, what a wasted opportunity.>But it's just a prototype that's not even 5th genSo just like Su57 then.
>>584394647Well in that case all you have to do is play more you'll figure it out.
>>584394890>picgoddamn she's ugly
>>584394564Only way to buff gun damage is with that anti air attack modification ability I think, its a flat damage modifier so It probably applies to guns too.
>>584394890well,,,, it is what it is what kaan you do :D
>MPtrannies really thought they were anythinglmao!
>>584394890>But it's just a prototypethat's never stopped anybody from loving past planes like the X-29, MiG-1.44, S-32, F-15S/MTD, etc.if anything, I think that players want more prototype planes to be includedeven just concept stuff that was never built, like the NATF fighters
>>584394878I think that would be the best way of doing that. No red tape, and the people making those planes felt validated by the inclusion. Though there's always that nagging feeling of the altered names and models.
>>584394878No. Fuck off Peng
>>584395072but I am something...I am... dissapointed... :(
>>584394878Tbf the J-20 was already in an AC game beforeNorthern Wings I figured he found out when the request form arrived on his desk one day and he went nuts on those poor Chengdu guys a few days later for even attempting this.
>>584395210You people are having problems telling the difference?
>>584394878I'd be fine with that.In fact, they should go one step further and port the old games into the new engine using names like that.
>>584395269you'd have to imagine that the kind of guys who end up working at Chengdu are just normal plane fans like the rest of usthey probably want their planes in the games more than anybody
>>584391483Literally thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
>>584394956>goddamn she's uglyIt's too much plane for very little engine.
>>584394769nah, General Resource is splinter from Grunder Industries, which was Belkan.Enso might of had Belkan saboteurs kill it so it can be absorbed by GR.
>>584395248
>>584394976>SupMan 2 and Flaps 2>Long Range Enhanced Shells 1 and 2>Anti Air Attack Mod>Gun Upgrade>MGP UpgradeI don't have a maxed fish so I don't know how good this will actually be, but it's something I want to try sometime. The maneuverability stats seem like it'd be competitive. If not, you can probably drop the two gun abilities for the two turn abilities instead.
>>584394890I disagree because the Felon is sexy while KAAN is an ugly, stunted F-22
I still want one of these dumb little goobers in an Ace Combat game, unironically.
Is it even worth running HCAAs on the 15E in multiplayer? It does dick for A2A damage anyway.
>>584396116No, get XSDB to cover SFFS.
Retard here who sucks at the game, the fuck am I supposed to do when someone decides to lock on me and we become two retards spinning in a wheel at each other for the rest of the match
>>584395917How does the pilot eject without getting sucked into the air intake?
>>584396668You break the retard pattern and try something different.
>>584396668Keep spinning until one of you gets third partied.
>>584396708You underestimate the force ejection seats push you
>>584396668Just PSM bro
>>584396708there is no ejection system in this flying go-kart
I don't have a screenshot, but have you guys noticed how the suburbs in a lot of the cities in the game must look like absolute ghettos?Go into free flight and just take a look around, some of these places just look like absolute nightmares to live in.
>>584397203Welcome to american urban planning.
>>584397203Accurate to reality
>>584397203amerigolems live like this
>>584397203I had to live in the US for a little while, and one of the things you never get used to is the smell. Constant reek of dead bodies.
>>584397072and die to EML?
>>584396668Fly towards one of your allies while still dodging their fire. Ping down and up so your team knows you need help.Either your teammate is aware enough to get on his six, or your opponent gives up on your slippery ass and goes for your teammate, giving you an opening
>>584396668>Turn and spin in the opposite direction to joust>Point down to speed away quickly and reengage>Point up to gain energy advantage and gun them>Speed up to increase radius of your turn to cause them to mess up.
>>584398084It is quite the experience getting jumped by the entire enemy team while yours just sits there and stares
>>584397203>the suburbs in a lot of the cities in the gamewhich cities?Selatapura is based on SingaporeTheve is based on TorontoExpo City is based on Shenzhen and Hong KongRio Bajo looks like some random bumfuck town in the Andes mountainsthe Newfield Island cities are based on their layout from AC4 and I think are completely fictionalthen you have the random little military base towns around the White Valley and Snider's Top airfields, but who knows what they're based onI don't remember any locations in AC8 that were modeled after American citiesolder games definitely did do that, thoughlike Bana City in AC5 is based on Boston, part of Gracemeria in AC6 is based on Manhattan Island in NYC, and so on
>>584378339https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6hpReqjTrAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA6G8HTVAU4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6R7jgo_K-Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzvjM0pkJ58https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWI0oND9B3Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8AS8U1gXEmain themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odfcExUN_Q
>>584398402messed up that last linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odfcExUN_Q8
>>584398151>2hu but jetsI honestly find it a lot of fun, provided I'm flying something that can actually move. Campaign enemies are never that aggressive
>>584398402>>584398530Even the worst AC games will still have a good OST, it's just near impossible to fuck up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbI-0Udwhio
people this shit should honestly stop playing the gamefailed a chandelier sortie with these two tards doing fuck all in their attackersi think actual bots would play better than this
>>584399264You can clear it even with dudes like that. I basically cleared it as a duo earlier with me in an F-15E and another guy in an EA-36. Bottom 3 had less than 10k points.
>>584399394i COULD clear it, but what the fuck are these people doing during the 6 minutes of playtime?i'd like to bash their skulls in with a brick.
worth spending general blueprints on f4 for mgp so I can deal with chandelier? is it good against alicorn too?
>>584399734Sure, go for it
>>584399264A level 20 F-15E can clear the TGT vents with guns in 5 seconds tops. >>584399394 as this guy said other players don't matter
>>584399734it's like 10 blueprints for lv20i think you'll be fine
>>584399734Yeah its a fun plane, pretty much the best thing 10 blueprints can get.
wtf 2AAM is a thing?
Does the A-6 get an ISAF skin like the one it has in the canyon mission.
>>584400113god yes finally
>>584399734Phantom is a lot better than it gets credit for, especially for how cheap it is.Just make sure that if you bring HVAAs in any of your loadouts, bring a second weapon too. That way people don't assume you've just started, and leave>>584400159Closest one I think
>>584400364Shame we don't have an ISAF emblem.
>>584399473Then what's the problem, other than impotent brown rage? You don't need them.
>>584400617It’s the principle of the matter
>>584397203>>584398285Expo city and Theve, specifically.Like a lot of these places are just small houses packed so tightly there's hardly any road between them, and when there is it's just a dorst road
How do I get out of Chandelier barrel on the first barrel run other than slamming into it and respawn? I don't play AC6, yet
>>584401058Yaw out the side before you enter the chamber itself. Or just crash and respawn
>>584401165okay
>>584401000Expo City is apparently partially modeled after Shenzhen, China, so that's probably why looks like an urban hellhole. Theve on the other hand is just Toronto.
on the upper portion, by the outer end, every Fatsia arm has a little grassy patch with yurts in iteven the arms with railguns on themand then there's a grassy pasture area above the center of the megafloat with nothing on it, maybe for animals to graze on?is this how the commanders live, just larping as pastoralists 24/7, while the workers just live in regular-ass apartments on the lower levels and wonder why the fuck the boss who just gave them their new shift schedule is now throat-singing a hundred feet above them?
>>584396668You hold your gun down and start whipping your aircraft around like a touhou
>>584401991on this side, you can see the tent-flaps, with the worn-out paths where the grass won't grow leading up to thema non-retard might have even switched to HUD view to take these screenshots
>>584402186Imagine sleeping only for that mini stonehengelet to open fire, muzzle above your tent.
>>584402236I just know the Sotoan VA would say that your hearing damage isn't service related.
>>584402186>Gun fire>All the tents are blown away at once>1/4 of the command staff are now deaf.
>>584402186>yurtsI kneel to Sotoa's larp.
>>584402186It's the optimum sleeping facility for war times
fuuuuuuuck, just FINALLY beat the game especially after thinking i fucked up RIGHT at the end by hitting restart mission instead of restart checkpointthe music fucking hits hard holy shit, even the unreleased music not in the player just is so fuckin great
>>584403983Unreleased music?
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE THE THIRD ONE TODAY
>>584404950Congratulations on not getting gold blueprints because of the cap.
Ded gam, I used to queue matches within a minute at night (in America!) but now it takes 15
>>584404756Mainly just some of the shit that appears in the briefings/cutscenes/interludes,etcbig one that comes to mind is the one that plays when DD takes out the botnet backdoor and starts explaining the structure in M19's briefing
Will you hate me less if I fly Growler-chan instead of Barricader?Why does she have the little propellers? They're cute
>>584405280They power the EW pods.
>>584405280Propellers are the equivalent of an ahoge for a plane.
>>584405280The little propellers are actually RATs, they're power supply for the ECM pods
>>584405280https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine
squawk 6767
>>584405564>67 and 69 are in but not 68Really nigga? I was planning on putting mine and my family's birth years as my plane numbers.
>>584404973yeah that cap is retarded but cool that i actually got to see an emergency sortie for once
>>584405280No, if anything I will respect you, Barricader players just use the IEWS as a buff for themselves and nothing else.
>>584405915>for once>the third time today???
They will let us get yellow blueprints from means other than the daily limit and the ACE ass, right? Right???
>>584406183lollll
>>584406183haha
Buddies! Pals! Amigos! In the market for a new multirole for online. Should I wait till I unlock the french dorito, pick up one of the super hornets, or just drop roughly 60,000 zollars on unlocking the level 20 cap on my f4?
>>584406547The answer is always F-4
>>584406547I miss the F-5 bros...
>>584406547Gripen a cute
Bros, dare we have hope for some sort of announcement?
has anyone tried the frogfoot online with the MGP? seems fun to shoot but terrible to fly
>>584406861I kinda hope we get a DLC teaser. Not a full announcement, just a general idea of what the story DLC will be.
>>584374564It's the kind of thing that happens when you have air dominance and need more ground attackers with longer loiter times.
>>584406949They're doing online matches, so I'd expect online announcement if anything.
>Go bomb half of waiapolo mountains>have massive kick me sign on me>lure asshole into friendly>this turns into a massive furball>break out and continue bombing>end up with easy mvp>mfw
>>584406547I've been enjoying the 18E. SODs are pretty good and QAAMs are never bad.
>>584406183Feels like there’s no reason to keep playing if you don’t have a stock of gen blueprints. Buying aircraft just so they’re capped at level 5 for months doesn’t seem worth it either.
Saw one of those online rage posts and I have to ask, is the Barricader really that broken?
>>584382183It's just boring waiting for the next missile to shoot down.
>>584406547you should get yourself a hornet
>>584384054She keeps doing split-S' at 200m. Only surviving because the earth is rubber on easy mode.
>>584387286I bet Division 303 is Belkan.
>>584384054Wasnt Luna one of the pre-release streams?
>>584407664And barely ever letting off the accelerator. But she's learning, slowly. Honestly watching nuggets play AC for the first time and struggling with stuff I can do in my sleep is fun. I've S ranked nearly every mission on my first playthrough barring a handful of missions (FUCK the third land battleship btw)
>>584406547I'd pick Rafale
>AC2 carrier landing>slow down as much as I possibly can>manage the landing>slide off the edge anyway and have to pay for a new jetThis game is BULLSHIT!
thanks i hate it.
>>584406183Probably, but they would rather not open the floodgates yet.
>>584408212McBerkut
>>584408212<< Rex, Fry 2! >>
>>584408212
>>584408212>McDonald's Douglas
>>584408178why the fuck are we the ones paying for our planes instead of the commander anyway? What the fuck are we?
>>584408212I don't know if it's a reference I'm missing or something but I have no idea why they thought that scheme was a good idea. You max out the plane and that's what you get? And every plane gets the same one? Why?
>>584408212Well I'm loving it
>>584408416Pacman
>>584408386>What the fuck are we?fucked
>>584408386In Strangereal, planes are a lot like personal vehicles.
>>584408416Yellow sparrows maybe?
>>584408416You also get the single player special skin alongside it, but... yeah this and the pink one are bad. A lot of the gacha ones are bad too. The black and black and yellow ones are at least passable if boring
>>584408582>the pink oneI'm curious, give me the example
>>584406861Isn't this just a developers playing a MP match?
>>584408582How dare you insult the Char custom [insert jet here]
>>584408497I should have picked up on that.I am very stupid.
>>584408660I would rather have a Pac Man emblem or Pac Man in a fighter jet like that one Ridge Racer car from V.
>>584408619?
>>584401991>>584402186You can really see the LARP in the fact that the fucking yurts are arranged in neat straight lines as though they're town houses.
>>584408582I run the red one on my Tomcat and MiGger in absolute shitbox condition because I think it's funny.
This one of y'all? Cause i like it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SkNQ1HDKAzs
Typed up an effortpost but accidentally closed the tab so now I'm livid.I have a theory about how PA turned IRL Toronto into their map for Theve, based on some of the quirks that I found in a part of the city that I've actually been to a bunch of times.For any part of the city that wasn't a large or unique feature requiring special attention, I think that they just looked at it from above, categorized each chunk of land by its predominant feature (trees, houses, etc.), and then filled in the terrain with examples of that thing until it was covered.For example, the houses here in my screenshot are way bigger (and especially wider) than the real houses are in that part of the city.Also, southwest of the IRL Withrow Park, along Bain Avenue (between points 1 and 3 in the images), there are a bunch of dense townhomes, but in the game it's just a cluster of trees along that road.I'd guess that this could have happened because there are genuinely a ton of trees in that area that cover the courtyards and lean out over the road, and so it mostly just looked like trees from above; and/or because the roofs of those townhomes are all green instead of the normal shingle-black of every other building around them, and so maybe that could've made it look more like foliage from above.There's another spot to the right of the altitude in my screenshot, called "The Pocket" IRL, where there's just a boring train storage yard, but PA turned it into a few skyscrapers to make the terrain more interesting. That change is clearly deliberate. But there are some other things that got random changes, like the hockey rink in Withrow Park at point that got turned into a big community center building or something. Maybe they misinterpreted what it was from above, or maybe they just didn't feel like making a new model or ground texture for it and covered it up. Although there are a lot of unique ground features that they did bother to model elsewhere, like at points 1, 2, and 3.
>>584408738... that's red, and I like the Grunder color scheme
>>584408619>>584408792It's funny seeing this get mvp, but it's still a shit skin
>>584408582>He doesn't like Char colorsEnjoy flying three times slower
>>584409064inner parts are definitely pink-ishwingtips are red
>>584409089What plane is the equivalent of the Zaku II?
>>584408582i wear the red ones exclusively because i'm a metaslave and need my planes to move 3 times faster
>>584408582>gacha skinsfor some reason bandai really loves their digital lines on black, and it irks me because it was the same dumb shit with gundam evolution.
>>584409157MiG-21
>>584409274It does look good in green.
can you use these multiplayer skins in Campaign? I never tried customizing the planes in campaign and I think I might start making some customs since I actually like some of these MP skins
>>584409357yes
So is there a reason to save up regular supply tickets or should I just roll all of them on the gacha right away?
>>584408416Because they're selling you skins in the battlepass
>>584409392nice, I want to play with the monster energy skin
>>584409460If you roll before they get the chance to add new stuff you get a better chance at getting currency, but you lose the chance to roll the new stuff, up to you.
>>584409460since they're called "regular" you just know the actually good stuff will be locked to specific gacha lmao
>Top tiers are all 2 seaters so you don’t feel like a badass, u have to share credit>Absolute top tier is blocky that nowhere near close to its irl performance>Only 2 viable weapons>Keeps track of your win/loss ratio, so if you suck you will always have that permanent reminder>limited universal blueprints, ludicrous grind based on a random eventCall me a fag or whatever, I don’t care. This online is dogshit
>>584373785>>584374003Laamsligers, once hailed as demons ...become the community savior
>>584408212>67Buddeh......
>>584409189Not all of them are bad. I really like the Sand and Ocean ones for example.And I have Jungle and Blood ones on some planes from... somewhere, no idea where cuz it's not in the gacha.But this shit like pic rel being the highest rarity doesn't make sense to me>>584409482I'm glad someone likes it at least
Anyone still have the new Aces at War? Want to read the story where Mrs. Severskaya and Tewy shot each other down
What even is the dumbest color palette available if you want to irritate your enemies
>>584409542The best fighter is the Typhoon and it's single seater. Lots of people stick with F-14/MiG-31 because they cost less but the Typhoon is better if you can afford the insane amount of gold blueprints.Su-34 is very good at anti ground but Rafale and F-35 are also very good and they're single seat.Growler is good at EW once you get it to level 20 (fuck) but I don't think anyone is going to say Barricader is underpowered and it's single seat.The game has a lot of bullshit but being forced into two seaters isn't part of it.
>>584410105anything with Mustard yellow
>>584410046It's on the panda.
>>584410024The annoying thing is you can buy that disgusting gacha skin with the coins you get from getting dupes, but not the sand/ocean ones. Why am I allowed to buy the awful one but not the good ones?Jungle and blood are from the battlepass I think.
All you do is run into people with QAAM's.
>>584410262at least they aren't SASM right?
>>584410105The katchup/mustard planes, or the goofy pinkish red
>>584410120I guess I should aim for a Rafale, F-35 or Su-34 next after this MiG-31?>>584410390Ah the Red Comet paint scheme, perfect
>>584408834I think I see it. Did they turn one of the roads into a land-battleship track?
I AM SPEED.
I wish that it was SAAMS that were good at slapping everything at long range and not braindead LAAMS.
>>584410601Does that extra bar on top actually count?
>>584410767SAAM tracking is just unbelievably shit somehow. I have no idea how.
>>584410105mercdonalds color scheme, but it requires you to max your upgrade cap
>>584410534I don't remember for sure, but I think that the land battleship drives just to the right of those skyscrapers in the screenshot early in the mission
>>584410795it's just there so the bar doesn't extend endlessly into the right
>>584410943But does that mean your speed is at ~110% or does it mean that it virtually can have no limits?
>>584411046the latter
>>584410120>A gay eurocanard
>>584410870Not that. I mean the equivalent of the curvy road that passes by the "Gerrard Square shopping centre" in Torronto. Are those battleship tracks? Presumably from either its pre-campaign arrival at Theve or its departure to San Salvacion?
>>584410024I think this one is charming in an 80s neon vomit kinda way, like something you'd see out of g2 transformers
>>584410469It's not even the Char color most fans rememever, it's first print series Gundam '78 Shar, before the red was made darker so he could be cooler.
Im interested in seeing what they're going to do with that whole "ace heaven" thing that cope was going on about. An organic electricsphere? Is something happening to human consciousnous like newtypes or something? Its absolutely supernatural that cope is haunting you for the whole game.
>>584411739Real fans know that Char red is salmon and the darker red is Johnny Ridden.
>>584410601Why does the one star part 'Bypass Ratio Optimization System' increase speed on the stat bar so much when the actual two star part dedicated to speed does less? Why can't the stat bar just be honest?
>>584410804You're not supposed to use them like LAAMs, SAAMs are dogfight missiles. Close range instant win.
>>584410805>Lets make the worst color scheme only accessible to no-lifersI respect the hustle
>>584411753Human Instrumentality Project: Strangereal Edition.
>>584411654It does look like something you'd see on one of the Predator jets
>>584412012According to the planner it's a multiplier to acceleration instead of a flat boost so it might genuinely be much better than the accel parts (and it's also top speed 1 on top of that). Or the planner might be wrong.
>>584411753I doubt it will go anywhere, or even be remembered past Ace8, PA just wanted to lampshade sublimation because the series is so close to 3. Typical japs being non-committal
>>584412284I tested it a bit and from my retarded brain's perspective, that one star part makes you a fucking rocketship compared to the supposed better parts to use.
>>584412009Now we just need a plane it actually looks good on.
>>584411597>I mean the equivalent of the curvy road that passes by the "Gerrard Square shopping centre" in Torronto. Are those battleship tracks?Nope, that's just regular train tracks. I can't find an IRL train line name or anything, but in-game and IRL they connect to the train station in the city that's close to the CN Tower.In free mission, the only pre-existing land battleship tracks go along the highway from the southeast (the IRL Gardiner Expressway), into the city, and then take a sharp turn inland after passing by the Enso Special Zone (sort of like it's going up IRL Atlantic Avenue, but the buildings and streets in that part of the city are pretty different from IRL).In the mission version of the map, the tracks are dynamically-generated behind the land battleship as it drives. But it does come along that curved train line for basically the whole mission, since that's where the open space is that it would need to be able to get into the city.
Got two questions regarding Project Wingman.1. How do I keep the map expanded? Do I have to hold the square button? No way to just toggle between map modes?2. Same question about the triangle button. Is it possible to switch its functionality to toggle instead of hold?
>>584412783>How do I keep the map expandedI'm pretty sure you don't.>Is it possible to switch its functionality to toggle instead of holdSee above
>>584412908Fuck. Okay then. The game has so many options I thought I was missing something.
Speaking of speed - a lot of people early on were recommending Next Gen High Pressure Components 2 for every plane.Is that a holdover from ACI?Now that the planner's out (and assuming it's correct), max speed doesn't seem to have the effect of "stretching" the maneuverability curve like was implied.
Bypass Ratio Optimization System does not increase top speed, so if you wanted the actual go fast build, you also need to spec into Next-Generation High-Pressure Components, specifically to move the needle. So put them together I guess, and bonus cookie that shit your boat has another slot because good luck trying to fucking turn.
>>584413636>Bypass Ratio Optimization System does not increase top speedThe planner says it does.Guess I should go test.
Can someone give me a quick rundown about what to expect from each of the online superweapon fights, and which planes that I should endeaver to unlock and have ready to be a credit to my team? I'm a 30 year old boomer whose super-weapon experience starts and ends with the PS2 era games.
>>584413828I have a couple planes now and they all that max out at 2500 without improvement unless I use the part that is specific to increasing top speed only. I hate these parts, all fucking lies. Bypass does seem oddly really good as a one star though.
>>584408212i gave up and bought the 250 coin splinter camo
>>584414135Hate to say it but Rusty is the bigger chad.
EA-18G with ESM active absolutely shreds the bombers with normal missiles for Mission 15 on Ace. I saw a Jap do it on xitter but after trying myself it works well.
>>584413636>>584414135I use superior mobility, bypass ratio optimization, and lightreight brisk 2. I usually break into 2.8k in like 30 seconds flat, and decel to stall warning speeds in 10 in the Berkut, which is more than enough for me to handle most engagements.
>>584414135If you want to carry the shit out of chandelier while everyone fails to do anything to the core a plane with machine gun pods does very well.
how is the ace combat online
Do i play AC04-5-Zero first or put my dick and balls through a woodchipper with Armored Core 1?My main experiences with both genres are Project Wingman and Daemon Ex Machina respectively.
>>584414308Do you have a plane in mind? Are you talking F-4E gunpods or maxing out dakka with an attacker like a frogfoot or something?
>>584414314If you liked infinity it's fun, but it's very basic right now, they need to get us a proper goal other than just levelling our planes. Give me a fucking event bamco.
>>584414135Arsenel bird - Aircraft that can stable speed and use guns. Missiles are okay until you have to shoot the under belly.>Chandelier - Don't use bombs here. Missiles and guns on the vents, ESPECIALLY GUNS ON THE CORE.>Alicorn - Guns on the Ballast for the love of god. do not bomb here, bombs are worthless.
>>584414381I am using the F4 for that job, oh also because I forgot to mention, you have to fly inside the gun to shoot the core, you'll know when.God help me when I finally max the F4, because my autism WILL demand I level the mig-21 so I'm not wasting the xp.
How much do you lose out for being last place in an emergency sortie
>>584414135>chandelierhit the TGTs, when a stauros is loading go for that. there is a lower tunnel under the front 6 aa guns. fly down the barrel to hit the main core when you hear the announcement that they're opening the barrel for cooling.>alicornhit the ballast tanks, then aim down the front to hit the core>arsenal birdjust hit the TGTs, this is by far the most straightforward one>>584414343>Armored Core 1remap the turn and strafe controls to sticks if you're emulating and you have a very solid and very fun third person shooter. trying to play it on the original layout is aids, only do this if you truly have "authentic experience" autism
>>584414495Flying a maxed out plane will guarantee that you get an xp potion at the end of each match.I still haven't used one, so I think it's less xp than simply flying the plane you want to level, but it's not completely wasted xp at least
>>584414290Try swapping Blisk for NGHPC and see how that affects accel and top speed. In 7 the speed parts also gave you better accel than the accel parts because of calculation fuckery.
Listening to all the main themes Unsung War is still my fave but Everflow's got the most energy of them all and it's still got Song of Wings and HRA to back it up
What is the most honest LAAM plane?
>>584414495Ok. It's nice to hear that the F-4 has a purpose. I'll start leveling it up. The Mobius 1 skin is sexy.
I got the MiG-31, Rafale, Su-34 or F-35 next or anything? I am kind of a noob at online
>>584414343Armored Core 1 is legitimately fun, not really ball torture except for like, the last mission (fuck platforming). The customization was really well established from the very first game and it has plenty good mission variety too.You really don't have to do the dual stick thing either, there's a popular remap where you turn your dpad into movement/strafing and face buttons into camera/turning with the shoulder buttons being for firing/jumping/weapon switching and it works great.
>>584415094fucking Erusian bitch didn't even know wtf a crab is.
>>584414135
Buddies, it is time once again for me to request an update this image
I just started playing online what planes should I focus on buying?
>>584415082>LAAM plane>honest
>>584415554A ground pounder and a LAAMboat
>>584415554MiG-31 for fighterRafale for multiroleSu-34 for attackerThe F-15C is also decent if you want to PvP
>>584415356if you live in Emmeria and you ask your girlfriend if she wants to take a trip to the Fuscum Sea does it work as a double entendre or would she not know what you meant?
>>584415554You want a Mig-31 since LAAMs are giganigga warcrime machines that they haven't balanced yet.
>>584415082Foxhound. Everyone knows what you're doing. You're not trying to hide it, you've embraced it.By that same token, Gripen is the most dishonest because no one flies it and they don't know you even have LAAMs until they get shot at>>584415238You phrased that a bit weird but I assume you only have the Foxhound so far.Get the Fullback next. It's one of two Attackers with playable mobility and costs half as much as the other one.After that pick up either the Growler or Barricader as your EW plane, and you have a solid foundation to branch into whatever you want next
>>584415554Level the Phantom to 20 instead. Alternatively the Fulcrum seems pretty good and the supersonic attackers are also decent.
I just got the EA-36, should I have gone for growler if I only want to do ESM?
>>584415746Growler is a pure supportBarricader is a fighter with incidental EW abilities
>>584415723>Fulcrum seems pretty goodDo NOT do this
>>584415554The most important resource is gold blueprints, don't waste them. You can get a lot early on from challenges and the battlepass but after that they slow right down. You can farm credits easily, you cannot farm gold blueprints.So with that in mind, F-14D is really good at anti air (it has LAAMs which are the best air special) and you can get it to level 15 without spending gold blueprints. F-2 is good at anti ground (it has UGBs which are great at anti ground, and LASMs which are good on maps with ships) and you can get it to level 10 without spending gold blueprints. Both available pretty early and you can happily use them until you get to a plane you really want and commit to it.
>>584414343As other anons said AC1 really isn't that hard, especially if you know how to get the busted parts and Human Plus.
>>584415835Well then Mr. Ace of Aces, why did I top score a deathmatch lobby with one last night? The answer is because it was a low level lobby BUT I still think I'll level it. It has HCAA's which are pretty good and it's fairly maneuverable.
>>584415554Get a plane to carry the emergency sorties, which mostly means an MGP carrier for chandelier because no one seems to know what the fuck to do.
>>584415960I think the Fulcrum is the one plane I have literally never seen in my online matches. Congrats anon, max out your planefu
>>584416251I do believe I will, anon.
Does this mean it's a double-seater? As in you get to have a WSO? Does WSO do anything in PW gameplay wise?
>>584413828Got me to log back into multiplayer...My lvl 20 F4, with no body, does 2797, in a straight line.With the one star Bypass, alone, it does 2825 (with more acceleration as a bonus).Using only the two star HPC, it does 2833 (with no acceleration boost)And with both, it does 2861.I also tested if part order actually matters, it doesn't (thank fuck).Finally, I threw on the one star HPC as well, and got to 2888 with all three. So this led my autism to another question... With only the one star HPC, you get 2824.So the stupid fucking one star Bypass seems to near invalidate the one star HPC because of the added acceleration bonus, and is probably the most optimal part out of all three. As even if you're slightly slower than using the two star HPC, getting off that starting line faster after breaking does matter for for dogfighting and post stall.
>>584416374YesYesYesFly only twin seaters in PW
>>584416374>Does WSO do anything in PW gameplay wise?Just extra dialogue.
>>584416374No, but you get extra dialog during certain missions.
>>584416427>Yes>Fly only twin seaters in PWWhat does it do?>>584416435>>584416459Only extra-dialogue and that's it? Okay then.
>>584416427Or get the mod that turns them all into two-seaters.
>>584416374WSO doesn't do anything per se but her lines are very cute and canonically you spend the entire game in an F/D-14 with her
>>584415554Assuming you didn't pre-order or forgot to check your mail like i did I was using the F18 for the longest time before I could afford the Berkut and the Fullback. Fullback fucks in this game, UMBL on Warfare is perhaps the easiest paycheck machine in the world. If you do have the pre-order, both the Tomcat and the Super Tomcat are servicable as units.I don't use the Foxhound, or Snail but I like maneuverability. I see them alot in game though.
>play mp for several hours straight>not a single emergency sortie pop>can't get the daily limit donecool
>>584416516I see. Well, I'll try and fly only those then.
>>584415832Im mainly hunkering down on lv10 planes for now, is barricader better for esm or growler?
>>584416421Maybe that's why it doesn't have a two star version yet.So far I think my Body parts are going to be Superior Maneuverability 2 + BypassAdd Flaps 2 for MultirolesAnd probably Superior Maneuverability 1 in the 4th slot for Attackers
I'm getting into MP and why is there 3 currencies? Am I playing a gacha?
>>584416942Yes unironically
>>584416942gacha games are better structured than ACO
>>584416421I've also been doing testing all this time, got the same results. And yeah, agreed that the top speed parts suck. Just use acceleration parts and get to your only a tiny bit lower top speed faster. And be much better at rebuilding speed whenever you're not flying in a straight line to distant enemies.The game failed to connect and timed me out one time when I was trying to test. In the practice mode. Why is the practice mode online anyway? And why did it fail? This fucking game.
I had this schizo theory when I first played this game that Rex is actually Trigger.For a moment at the final cutscene I thought I actually got it right because Rex quite literally pulls Trigger's rolling dive maneuver at the very end.
>>584416739Growler is only good once you've completely uncapped it. You do get an ESM range buff ability early, but that's not worth it compared to Barricader having ECM and having better stats.If you aren't prepared to go all the way with Growler then it's a skip.
>>584416739>for ESMIf for some reason you don't care about jamming enemies, Growler gets the ESM range increase plane ability early on.Overall, the Barricader is better early since IEWS is both ESM and ECM right from the start. Growler needs 60 blueprints invested in order to unlock ECM, and max level in order to gigabuff its ESM.At max level, Growler will have better ESM and ECM than Barricader.>camping level 10Even just the first uncap will cost 10 gold blueprints, so you should think about which one you want long term before spending anything. >>584416942Blue is premium irl money currencyWhite is easily grindable in-game currencyBronze is gacha pity currencyPlane-specific blueprints are equivalent to white currencyGold blueprints are to be hoarded and spent only on planes you really love, or planes that are really good
>>584415960>HCAA's which are pretty goodThey really aren't, but I am not going to argue with someone's favorite plane choice
>>584416764If you're in one of the slow planes, the air-break upgrade is low key vital. Also the Russian craft tend to always have better maneuverability but a worse stability trade (excluding the frogfoot) meaning you'll have worse post stall time. So perhaps just for them, you also use the ECU to increase Stability which will allow more post stall shenanigans if you're into that.
I'd have a lot more respect for euros if they could design even a single fighter that didn't look like ass
>>584417154Top speed would matter if you got actual gains. Right now, you have to use Bypass and the HPC to actually see a difference, meanwhile a plane with or without roll or pitch parts is night and fucking day.
>>584417535The Meteor and Me-262 looked good
>>584417535Good thing we are all assfags
>>584417535Your Tornado? Your Vulcan?
>>584417681>tornado>vulcan>fighters
The Rafale M would be an all-timer looks-wise if it didn't have that unretractable drogue
>>584417535Time for a lot more respect.
What is in the water over in Eurostan that makes them make all of their fighters triangles?
>>584417736it's like a kid's first paper airplane
>>584417717Don't bring up the fact I misread you. Also the Tornado had a fighter configuration.
>>584417254>Barricader having better statsGrowler is actually noticeably more maneuverable sub 1000kph
>>584417853If you're flying sub-1000 in warfare you're dead unless your opponents are retarded.
>>584417914you cannot do PSMs period unless you're <500
>>584417819The Tornado's fighter configuration is maximum cope and as retarded as the Krauts using F-104s for ground attack.
>>584417951why would you want to do it
>>584417979>t. laam fodder
>>584417962You're maximum cope, why don't you go dance with the angels dead boy?
>>584417951PSMs don't break missile lock in MP, again, if you're pulling it off you're either dead or you're playing against shitters
Is there even a point to PSMs beyond being the very last get out of jail free button for breaking missile locks?
>>584417914You're pretty routinely falling below that in dogfightsUnless you're in an A-10 or some shit and trying to PvE the entire match in which case who cares you're a bot anyway
>>584417807The Drakken is in Zero, you will trigger the autismos
>>584417632WW2 blobs look like ass too
>>584418132in MP, pitching up extra hard to secure a gun kill against the last little bit of an opponents hp in a turn fightin SP, it's mostly just because it looks cool
>>584417409Are they not essentially buffed standard missiles like they were in 7?
>>584418189>t. tard who wastes time tail chasing until he gets sniped by a 3rd partyno wonder you people bitch about laam boats, you might as well crash into the ground to avoid giving points
>>584418363Do you think you dodge missiles by flying really fast in a straight line until they go away?
Thank God I only had to down one plane. (no missiles connected whatsoever, it was all GUN) Apparently you can just retreat.
>>584418189I take my AE-6 into Warfare all the time to shit on ground targets and am constantly amazed at just how much ammo is wasted on trying to take me down. It does happen mind yo, eventually, but I can avoid most LAAM and QAAM spam until I have at least three faggots get on me. So I must be in shitter central because these apes can't throw one v one and I ain't even shooting back or max lvl.
It's stopped being funny. Halve the LAAM's guidance in MP.
>>584418484just notch bro
I just unlocked the Mig-31 for online this shit is stupid
>>584418462we really need to stop making bosses where literally nothing but machine gun is usable, this has been a trend since AC7
>>584418578It's performance vs players isn't the problem. It's just the raw amount of score that it racks up effortlessly from AI targets just kind of ignoring them and dying.
>>584418578It's insanely stupid in co-op assault
>>584418442By all means, keep getting in a slow turn fight with a F22 so I can snipe you from outside because you decided to paint a huge retarded target on your forehead.
>>584418346I can't remember exactly how they were in 7 but in 8 they behave pretty much like standard missiles that can't target ground units and do a bit more damage to air, there is an ability that buffs their homing but sacrifices its already poor range. I would say they are fine, but its nothing substantial from what you might get from a SASM, QAAM, HVAA or SAAM and of course they pale in comparison to LAAMs. Still not as bad as the XAAMs though.
>>584418752>LAAMnigger thinks they're hard to dodgelollmao
>>584372754>Skin/Texture Modding GuideThe googledoc inside is dead.
>>584418261Funnily enough the SP34R in PW was extremely fun since you could PSM and railgun enemies during the turn. I have yet to test and see if the X-40 is just as fun in that regard.
>>584418921>xhe thinks it's just LAAMsit's ok little buddy, you can keep playing on assault and still feel like a big boy
>>584418752Kill yourself TLSnigger.
Fatsia should've been bigger.
>>584419238It would take you almost an hour to get from one end to the other by walking.
>>584419238Shit looks alien from this perspective
>>584419238Is that a.... crab? AHHH HELP ME PRINCESS I'M GOING INSAAANE!
>>584419183Should've paid the deluxe tax.
Don't you see? 1 million! 1 million QAAMS!
>>584419238Armored Core boss fight lookin ass
>>584419305>3.7 miles longit just doesn't feel very big from the air
>>584419238Thinsia is actually the fat one
>>584418578>>584418717LAAM identity is max range, you don't fuck with that. Instead increase the tracking delta even farther so a LAAM under 5000 burgers is always absolute dogwater, then with parts that increases to 6000. Further, you cut the total ammo amount and make the reload slow as shit. This means players would need to waste slots making their LAAM better instead of it being good out of the box. And for Assault specifically, you largely increase the amount of targets and improve the enemy AI by making all white aerial targets orange or red. This increases kill rates for all players while lowering the amount of LAAM efficiency overall.
>>584419469we fell for the classic Greenland gambit
>>584419350PICTURE ITSEPARATION
>>584419443Almost everything looks small when you're in the air. Even yourself, in the grand scheme of things. That's what it means to fly with the wind.
I fear in the future I may regret giving the F/A-18C so much attention but for the moment it makes me happy.
>>584419513>making all white aerial targets orange or redcool, now fighters can outscore everyone 10:1 instead of just 2:1
>>584419570Do you think Sotoans wax poetic about the wind when they fart?
i have a harder time dealing with QAAM's because I feel like I just got cheaped out of a jousting match. At least with LAAM spam, I just laugh and turn at the last minute.
meant to post this when it came out earlier today (or yesterday now)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtfGWSuNsy8
so what to do after you've unlocked all levels and hypothetically, all the planes you want? Nothing else to do but fill in the ace pass?
>>584419760>yet another slop channel that does le badass metal covers of whatever game is popular right nowi hate these fags so much
>>584419617You'll be fine. That's only two days' worth of blueprints assuming your queues pop up in the first place
>>584419672Increasing all targets in Assault means there would be way more AIM and SAM and Attackers love white targets, the bread and butter of AOE ground and pound is white target stacking. If anyone on your team is wasting time going after one white ground target at a time instead of carpet bombing or dropping a fat UBG load, they are doing it wrong.
>>584419827you play for fun _____________>>584419845>whatever game is popular right nowhe's a fan of the serieshe's been making these for years
>>584419827Wait for events that will make you grind for new planes.
>>584419827You'll finish the pass way before the other two, but yeah, just do your dailies and more importantly farm your 5 gold blueprints for the day.
>>584419980best I could do is 2-3 per day with how lousy my luck and schedule are
>>584419617I think it only takes 10 general blueprints to uncap it, you could do a lot worse.
>>584419959Can't wait for them to reintroduce the ranking lottery system from Infinity and see people mad they lost the new meta plane by one number.
I just did my first Emergency Sortie and it was Arsenal Bird. I thought people getting caught in that Helios missile was a meme but 4 guys instantly got obliterated
>>584420040You can join 2 squadrons (and be the leader of a 3rd) and share sorties/scrambles for that reason.
>>584419827im at level 47 on the ace pass and i just barely have one plane at level 15 and the other at 10. if you max out all the planes by that point, you're no lifing super hard and should have that filled out way over.
>>584420115NO, YOU SHALL NOT RISK THIS RETURNING BY INVOKING IT. THEY HAVE NO INCENTIVE BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO BUY FUEL.
>>584419750Aside form getting some third party kills, LAAM spam isn't really being decried from a PvP perspective. It's the PvE one where it's running roughshod over alternatives.
>unlocking more than 5(five) hangar slots costs 15000(fifteen thousand)zoglars.What form of advanced kikery is this?
Why do people still live in Usea? Every ten years there's a fuckass war happening somewhere in that continent that may or may not be because of Erusea. Why not just live somewhere else like Osea hell even Yuktobania.
>>584420326it's funny because campaign has the exact same interface and i assume they didn't want to code it twice and in campaign the price is a whopping 1000 MRP per slot
>>584420326You'll eventually have plenty of zoll to spare because you're gated by general blueprints. I've pretty much bought out the parts shop, unlocked slots and uncapped T3 planes and still have 250k+ to spare. The budget is only tight when you're starting.
>>584420349my fellow oseans we must allow the usean refugess into our nation if we are to survive
What do you all prefer when buffing standard MSL? I figure guidance first but then what? Reload? Speed? Flight time?
>>584420565Lock-on distance
>>584420565reload, I will never get used to base AC7 standard reload speed, the part at least rebuff it to previous AC title reload.
>>584420510>Posted from Estovakia
>>584420565Depends on what you're using it on, PVE go for reload, PVP go for either speed or range
>>584420480My man. My nigga.I'm 2 pilot ranks off max, have a lvl.19 fullback and multiple lvl 15 planes, and cannot fucking find a match in warfare half the time because the game only lets me play with turbosweats.I am not just starting out, I'm just not nolifing the game for 2 weeks straight.
>>584420291Ooooh, I see.anti ship missiles worth it? is killing ships even worth it over ground target bombing
>>584420604I have yet to see the numbers, but lock on distance doesn't seem to add much. I go for flight speed.
>>584420480>parts shopI forgot there was a parts shop. I was thinking that all of the parts were gated behind achievements. God, where the fuck did they dig up this unholy menuslop interface?
>>584420950Ships are worth a good chunk of points, and it's a bit impractical to kill them with basic missiles.
>>584420349Why do people still live in Florida when it's always underwater after the most baby tropical storm at the low end, or a hurricane apocalypse at the high end?
Why didn't the Sotoans do a Rapid Dragon Podarge or some air-fired battleship railgun?
>>584420972It adds 500m in sp and 160m in mp(with the lvl 2 part).
>Civilian Forced into Service>Natural Ace>Teenager to Young Adult>Traumatized by the Horrors of WarIn a mecha series, Tasha would be the protag We already have the newtype Protag and other people hearing the ghost speaking to them.
>>584420929You don't need to no-life the game, just don't be a friendless autist so you can do the modes that actually give you rewards
If there isn't going to be any sort of point cost capping, then Assault and Warfare should be a set kill count to end the matches instead of a timer. If the team I'm on is going to get instant blown the fuck out by a team of max range laamboats, I would rather it end quickly so I can take my xp and leave to find another match.
>>584421167at the very least shes marketed and designed like a protag
>>584421286It's like 5 minutes max
>>584421095Seems like in MP, you would need two range parts to even notice.
>>584420950Killing ships is worth it and their main body has so much HP that bombs don't really work.But it's still better to take a Strike Eagle and nuke them by layering cluster bombs than it is to commit to a Mirage or an F2 as your main attacker(because they get LASM).
Phew.
>>584421286Warfare ends when one team reaches 500k
>>584421247But anon, all modes give the same 100 pilot xp. And I see some of you niggas in the squadron are already at max pilot rank.
>>584421046>>584421382Well I can force a respawn on land by bombing enough targets during warfare, i wonder if sea targets act the same way.
>>584421458lol point cost capping would fix nothing anyway since the MiG 31 gets laam default. You gotta put all laam at the back, as a reward for a twenty unlock.
>>584421795Land respawns are limited. You get 3 waves and then it stops. A competent attacker that's only getting mildly harassed by the enemy team can clear all 3 waves in Artiglio port with 2 minutes to spare.
>>584421801The mig-31 isn't even that strong, it's just a cheap early unlock. Gripen is better.
>>584421167All she needed would be for her parents to get killed and she would be a Gundam protagonist. In a braver game you probably would have played as her.
>>584421167She'll be the protagonist in the timeskip DLC.
>>584421375Yeah, you only really notice the lock-on speed, the distance barely matters. Even if you stack both the lvl 1 and 2 parts it only adds 280m.
>>584419238Wait a second...
>can't simultaneously guide multiple SAAMs to separate targets anymorei'm pretty sure they intended for the ability to redirect in-flight SAAMs to be a positive change but this feels like a nerf desu
>>584421801>would fixThat wasn't a suggestion. Warfare literally does end early if a team hits 500k
>>584422161Is it?
>>584422161>Abbadon fails to invade StrangerealChaosbros...
>>584422226>lock onto one target>fire>wait a moment>fire again>first target dies>2nd missile swaps to and kills the 2nd target.
>>584422364>cloaked to start, have to find it>swaps to shield, fires off swarms of drones, launches puddle jumper squads>as shield weakens, city rises up and tries to escape>have to hit their hyperdriveto force it to crash back down>tunnel run to blow up zpm roomFUCK I want it
>>584422436that only works if both planes are right next to each other and neither of them attempt to maneuver after the missiles are fired, and even then it's still less reliable than how it worked in the older games
>>584412505BROS increases speed by 31 while also increasing accel, NGHPC 1 only increases speed by 30 and NGHPC 2 by 40. So BROS is just a better part and you should run it on literally every plane.
>>584422543>Turns out this is the boss fight of the upcoming AC8 DLC
Do I need to buy planes in PW in order to unlock more planes? I've been flying tomcat for like 4 missions straight now and haven't unlocked anything new since su-27 popped like 2 or 3 missions ago.
