Everyone loves Retail edition>October Trading Post:https://www.wowhead.com/news/october-2026-trading-post-bilebound-urzul-mount-and-wizard-cat-383229Useful Linkshttps://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/https://murlok.io/https://housing.wowdb.com/>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)>NA<GLOBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Thread Question: Have you been enjoying the patch? what's been your favourite addition?Old >>584463218
>>584519856The clique is never going to recover from this embarrassment.
Professions being involved in housing is fucking stupid there is no justifiable reason for it to be there besides make the building experience a nightmare by cockblocking you out of what you need. I'm glad 12.2 is making it easier to buy decor in-house but i'm sorry this should've been day 1. As much as i loathe cashop decor at least you get what you pay for straight to your inventory not this maze running nonsense
>>584519695I enjoyed the labyrinth, I wouldn't do it again but it was kinda cool to run through one time.DESU I thought a lot of the .2 changes were coming with this patch so I was mainly disappointed.
>>584519493Thread IDs would fix this.
>>584519856NOOOOO SHITPOST FASTAR SAAAAAAR MOARE DOOMSAYING MORE PISSING
>>584520046Kindojan is by far the best designed delve boss but he is way too easy
Just checked snopes and guess what, the patch is confirmed actually good and the story is its best part!
>most positive bread in a long time>everyone is just angry anyway
>>584520203i know!the story is literally pearls before swine, its wasted on these chuds!!!i'm going to go suck the story department off on blueskytoodaloo!
Midnight should have started with Xal'atath putting a giant void dome over everything north of EPL to cut the belves off from their allies.
So glad Forever exists so I can escape retailsloppa
>>584520227>Tali hasn't made a video in 2 weeks>1 month if you don't count forever shitit's over isn't it
NO NEGATIVITY IN THE DOJO
>>584515814>SOrder Hall, Mage Tower, Horrific Visions >ATorghast, Island Expedition, Scenarios, Artifact Weapon, the Suramar thingy where you tardwrangle crackheads, Gear Corruption >BBrawler's Guild>Should be removed tierPet Battles>Didn't play or didn't care Warband, Dragon Racing, Warfronts, Farm, Proving Grounds Unfortunately, instead of keeping good systems and iterating on them, Blizzard likes to throw away the good stuff and keep the bad (see: Azerite necklace or whatever it was).
>>584520314>Thank god I can quit eating this shit pile.>This pile of brown smelly stuff from the exact same people looks much more appetizing.
>>584520203Damm - even a broken clock is right twice a day I guess.
>>584519695>Thread QuestionActually a good idea for wowg for once
>>584520523give it up sis ur never getting that sparkle kitty
>>584520745Thanks!
Real thread over here>>583942105>>583942105>>583942105
>>584520523>pet battles should be removedWhy? How filtered were you to be mad at this minimal effort/dev time side activity?
Foreverfags FEAR the the retail ubermensch
>>584520905>>584519856uh oh stinky
>>584519695>Thread Question: Have you been enjoying the patch? what's been your favourite addition?Uhh not really no, but part of that is because blizzards dogshit servers fucked me otu of bonus rolling ulatek on my alt and it was quite literally a slog for me to farm my crest cap on my main this week and i didn't get the item i wanted from kithix, there aren't many higher end keys up, arena has been dogshit the entire patch and i'm not even bothering, so honestly i'm pretty fucking burnt at this point.>>584520745literally the only place i've EVER seen a tq is the 40k general thats not on this board and it will quickly turn into a porn based question within the week if its carried on from this thread mark my words
>>584520905kek it is now tradition eh?
>>584520923He got gaped by my Unborn Valk/Pinchy team years ago and never recovered mentally.
Not gonna lie, I live Forever now, but post here just to cuck the furfag gay little thread.
why this shady fuck keep inviting me down to his basement to milk agony?
>>584521075Ditto.WoWg is basically my safari where I ragebait the terminally mazed for sport.I imagine this is how my ancestors used to feel when they hunted foxes on their vast estates.
>>584521050Who didn't get gaped by that team? Nowadays I just run meme cockroach + sustain teams and run out the clock.
feels like my prot pally is doing way less damage after the patch
>>584521075>>584521247congrats you've become as bad as the gacha thread retards who "quit the game months ago" and have still come to the threads all day every day
>>584521353kek I remember raping everyone with direhorns pre nerf, the murky diablo crusader 1v3 teams and kovok team with pheromon
>>584521020wowg is basically the 40k general anyway, they have their resident schizo that won't stop posting too
>>584521395>anyone who critiques the game must not even play or an indian bot
>>584521465we don't have anyone even close to decalfag
>>584521425I queue every day for hours and never even get a game. On the rare occasion I do, the other person doesn't accept and I go back into queue. It's so sad.
I have started playing my mage again.
>>584521595now you're making sense
>>584521729You wish.Instead, she just drops there because... she ran out of mana?
>>584521678I doubt anyone is playing right now because I did this back in mop
>>584521614nelf wifey and bald nelf wifey are probably the closest in recent memorythe furry clique too I guess ironically they'd also be fans of Space Wolves too
>>584519695>questionI'm just coasting through like the rest of the expansion.Story is still ass, I still hate basically every character besides Alonsus Faol, but he hasn't done anything else since that little side story with Arator. Because lole, Light people.Raid is whatever, single boss filler with add slop. Kinda wish they went back to actually difficult... or """difficult""" filler raids like Crucible of Storms. The 'twist ending' is retarded and nonsensical, and everyone knows it.The Labyrinth is alright, if a bit buggy. Got screwed out of my deathless run first try because Valeera's non-descript about where to stand with the Dragonhawk bit. Pings a circle and tells me to stand in the circle she's not in.... She's invisible for some reason, so I stand in the pinged one. Nope, wrong one, she was in there. Thanks idiot!I like the idea of it though. Torghast without the novelty of extreme powerups. But I can see how it'll get old and repetitive. Feel like a randomized layout like Torghast would be better, but it'll still just end up with the same problems regardless, so whatever, just enjoy it while the enjoyment lasts.What else is there? New invasions? Fuckin' wooooooooooooooow........Nothing else to say, its still the same season, I'm too damn lazy to actually achieve anything of note and I'm just gonna be alting, passively gold farming... Might actually make an effort on houses while most of everyone else spends time on Forever until next patch to feign enthusiasm freshly all over again.
monk or dh which is more fun dps and tank wise
>>584521937vengeance is more fun than brewwindwalker is more fun than havoc but havoc is pretty fun
>>584521937Dh by a mile
>>584519695>Thread QuestionI'm disappointed that the patch is so lack luster, I usually dip after launch and come back during the October / January period for comfy cozy leveling. It's a shame the "grind" portion of the patch is so..boring I guess? uninspired?
>>584521937Brewmaster is the more fun tank if you pick a short race and enthrall yourself in the idea of a drunk midget punching everyone in the nuts.Mechagnome especially. Drunk cyborg fire-breathing midget CLAMPING people in the nuts.
>>584522218I pretend my gnome is making alchemic concoctions that he drinks for fire breathing and throwing at people.
How come in Forever I can see like 50 people out in the world fuckin around in RedridgeBut even when leveling on day 1 of the expansion I saw like 5 people max. I KNOW it's something to do with layering but it makes it feel less like a MMO.
>>584522505Forever is one server of four layers, not a clusterfuck of like 70 servers of differing types that are only visible to each other in certain conditions.
>>584521465There's no such thing as a 24/7 general that doesn't have a resident schizo.
>>584522505>>584522617Also phasing.
>>584522617>>584522684Okay but one feels like an MMO and one feels like DestinyHow can we get something similar?
>>584521770It was established back in TBC that belves literally wither and die without an external source of energy. It's where the withered came from. It's why they enslaved demons and also created the blood knights in the first place to use holy energy as a substitute.Liadrin used up everything in the last phase of the boss. Then she died because lore consistency trumps plot armor and always must.
>>584522765so humans, dwarves even tauren are more effective pallys? they never run out of juice and fall over
>>584522723Blizz would need to adapt the same thing to retail, merge all the servers under one.Problem is its a 20+ year old system that would probably absolutely fuck the game coding wise if they messed with it, so thats why they did it in Forever when they had that opportunity to start 'fresh 'and tweak some shit with the engine rather than just flatly release Classic for the fourth time.
>>584522765>lore consistency trumps plot armor
>>584522765also the Light isn't just a fuel guage or generic cosmic force. Paladins quite use it to invoke literal miracles, but it's sort of like a genie where you can only call upon it to such an extravagant degree so many timeslike tirion spent his during the LK fight and it's why the light failed him at broken shore
>>584522981They still struggle on what is a clean slate wit hForever.Like mail sometimes being delivered to the wrong player because the share one of the names with someone else.
>>584522872Every other race is more effective as Paladins, yes.The Belves only got their Paladin powers from stealing a Naaru and siphoning from it. They retained it after Velen turned the Sunwell into a Lightwell rather than a big Arcane well like the Well of Eternity is, so a shitton of Belves adapted more to Light magic and got golden eyes.So it's all kinds of retarded that they just went ahead with this whole Elf unification to make the Dawnwell, because the whole idea was just making something that wasn't a font of power for any threats to try and come corrupt it.They're writing it off like Elves really are drug addicts that can just quit whenever they want, when in reality they'd probably need to start some magic farms or some shit like Kael'thas had going in Netherstorm.It's kinda fuckin' why they devolved further from Night Elves as it is!
>>584522765Blood Elves turn into Wretched from overindulgence. Withering from a lack of mana is the Nightborne's thing.
>>584523180Yeah, well, nobody said Forever was flawless.Well... some did, but those people are also proven idiots that are blissfully ignoring the writing on the wall in front of them, so.
and yet you're still talking about it
>>584521689Violating the quietude of the library with this nerd.
>>584523265Nightborne and BElves are both Highborne.
>>584523546Uh, yeah. Because there's a conversation about it.Idiot.
STOP SHITTING ON RETAILLIADRIN'S DEATH WAS FINE
>"cool so they fixed labyrinths guess i'll take my alt that could actually use this shit into it">it's still brokenFunny, this one caused problems on the PTR too.
>>584523689what did he mean by this
Salandria sounds like she's about to enter her Kylo Ren eraGirl is NOT well
>>584524328she's going to go crazy and become a prey target to pay off the 20 year old children's week lore where the bronze dragon guards wanted to kill her for future crimes
Who's cares if npcs die? Literally just walk through a portal and visit them in the shadow lands. Death is not a big deal in wow at all.
>>584524328>SalandriaWho? Sounds like some DF donutsteel.
>>584524482I like how people go "nooo that's just a gameplay thing it's not an in universe thing you can't just do that!!!!".And then a character does it.
>>584524326Loudly and obnoxiously discussing our favorite manga and other forms of fiction before rebuking each other for shit taste.
>>584524482She's a paladin so she was abducted into the lightmaw by the naaru to be used as fuel for their lamps.
>lags>bugs>now even text errorswow is now just a paid version of private server with less service and fun shit
you can tell blizzard stopped caring about anything around the time their sylvanas burning elf tree (which they thought was absolute fire) kind of just enraged everyone on both horde and alliance. they've been phoning it in ever since
>>584524482Yeah, you're an idiot.
Meanwhile... in WoW:Forever
>>584524756why does it work so well and look so good
>>584524756Thunderfury, Blessed Board of the Windseeker?!
>>584524585she's a TBC character, tourist
>>584524659>hey man lets develop 3 games on the midnight era engine of the game what can go wrongTLT development, Midnight patch development and Forever development lmao.
>>584524706Nah they cared very much for DF, it was the most these queer retards cared ever.
>>584524849>pull some literallywho children's week npc>somehow I'm supposed to careAnywho... did they make something out of the draenei or it the belf the special snowflake pick?
games dead, jim
>>584524443>Final raid cutscene>Heroes have won and stopped the world soul merger at 99%, xally is trapped in some kind of titan containment matrix>Cut to Salandria pov(she's there for some reason) where she sees Liadrin in the cage instead, begging for her help>Salandria freaks out and sets her free>Warden of Time #5261: fuckin' TOLD ya
>>584525047Works on my machine.
>>584524586Yeah I remember right after SL there was a quest trying to help the forsaken deal with the blight fucking up the Undercity and you all just drop by Maldraxxus for plague advice like it's no big deal
>>584525160That was still during Shadowlands.
>when your labyrinth bugs at room 3 so you don't even get a pity reward
>>584524849>hair was longer as a kidLiadrin was definitely grooming her. Glad she's dead now.
>>584525226Nta but you realize it's still about popping in and out of the Shadowlands to solve issue in regular world?
>>584525226what about in dragonflight when we went to ardenweald to bring ysera back and we swapped malfurion out
>>584525261>groomingCould be just a jealous old hag. Many such cases.
>>584525226Post-Sepulcher though.Anyway it doesn't matter because we did it in fucking late TWW. And Sylvanas did it in Midnight.
>>584525226>>584525478The storyline with sylvanas where we chill with her in the maw. Ve'nari visits us in TWW .2 patch tooAlso this side quest with Dapperdewhttps://www.wowhead.com/quest%3D84985/not-ready-on-set?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Anytime a character doesn't heroically suicide bomb an enemy it doesn't make sense to the established shadowlands lore. Why would they care about dying?
>>584525423Yeah. We did that a lot. During Shadowlands. A bunch of NPC's with no reason to be there did. They went and watched Sylvanas's trial and had long chats afterwards. Lor'themar says he wanted to go talk with Kael'thas while he had the chance to.Canonically the opening in the sky closed, the portals for everyone to travel to and from closed. Nobody is remaining or casually going back and forth anymore barring the special circumstance bullshit like >>584525478 and >>584525563 where they pool a bunch of magical bullshit to go back there for whatever drama reasons. They're not just casually happening.The portal for us to go back is open for general player convenience because they're obviously not just going to shut off access to an entire expansion. Same player conveniences as sooooo many other things that don't actually exist anymore.
>>584525478that was emerald dream bullshit>>584525563that was broker bullshitthe mage portals to Oribos don't exist anymore after Shadowlands ended, and normal people can't just visit whenever they want
>>584525662>utm_source=chatgpt.com
The jailer was unironically right.
>>584525852yeah, I asked it if there was any quests I was missingIt's not illegal to use ai you know that right
>>584525662>20th anniversary event bronze dragon bullshit>chatgpt
Am I the only one excited for this?
>>584525818>>584525927>it was ____ bullshitif the writers don't care why should we
>>584525662>anniversary events are canon>everyone just gathers around the bronze dragons every year to blissfully celebrate how many times we all nearly died every two yearsNigger be real.
>>584525971Better then midnight probably.
did I make this up in my head or did we officially "close" the portal to altdraenor? If so, maybe they should do the same for the Shadowlands and then not reference it again ever so it doesn't seem like lore ruining bullshit every time they mention it.
>>584525971Nah, I guess I am too.Less so for whatever rewards, just more as an excuse to do it again.Especially the raid on the Undercity, I hope thats restored with it.
>>584526038nigga we worked with the bronze dragons for an entire fuckin patch whats the difference
>>584525923It's funny how you leave it in the link is all.Good goy.
>>584526108Yes, we abandoned alternate timeline Draenor pretty much immediately after it ended and Yrel made peace with the Orcs.The only time we actually canonically return is Horde players recruiting Mag'har Orcs as an allied race. And that was alt-Draenor fast-forwarded to be in line to our current time (in BFA).Because WoD was an alternate timeline in the past.
>>584526108Alt Draenor was in a crisis of its own during the quest to unlock Mag'har iirc, which the Draenei ascended to Space Hitlers in an effort to halt. I don't think we've heard anything from them or alt Draenor since.
>>584526108The Mag'har Orc recruitment questline says that the normal portals to Draenor are closed because the connection to the prime timeline has waned, and you have to do some special bronze dragon stuff to temporarily stabilize the connection for you to visit. Canonically Draenor doesn't exist at all anymore and the timeline collapsed right after you evacuate the Mag'har to Orgrimmar and that last portal closed behind you.
>>584525818>that was broker bullshitIf you want to talk about utter broker bullshit. They have a god 3d printer that we used to restore a anima soul to a full regular body for fucking bees.
>>584525818>emerald dream bullshityeah except the Emerald Dream and Shadowlands are two separate cosmic planes. >broker bullshitYeah brokers can just show up where ever for whatever reason.
>>584526349Reminder that the writers didn't know that during Midnight beta and WoW twitter yelled at them to change it.We were going to go to where Garrosh died in WoD Nagrand lmao for an Arcantina quest.
>>584526208>whats the differenceThat we don't do it very often?The Bronzies aren't supposed to be fucking around with time so heavily to make themselves super well known to EVERYONE, especially to a point of having a big friggin' worldly celebration to say "Hey lets go kill Emperor Thaurissan again just for the fun of it!"
>>584526108It wouldn't solve anything. Once you know for a fact there is an afterlife all this death drama is meaningless. Crying or being sad at someone dying would be like crying when someone board's a plane. You will see them again.
>people complaning about shadowlands lore breaking their suspension of disbelief>we're best friends with a transgnomedragon lord of time who can go back and forth whenever he wants and do whatever he wants.
>>584526482I guess for elves it'll be awhile though. >>584526038Is the The Arcantina canon? if it is then everyone is just hanging out all the time anyway
>>584526368>yeah except the Emerald Dream and Shadowlands are two separate cosmic planes. Ardenweald specifically, they're linked closely enough to interact, if enough magical force is applied.Pretty much everyone with ties to the Emerald Dream goes to Ardenweald to be reborn back into the Dream later, usually if they're the wild gods and/or Loa. Unless they just feel like fucking them over because Blizzard really just hated Ursoc for some reason.Ardenweald inhabitants can exist for a period in the Emerald Dream but not permanently, as they for some reason did during that last DF patch where they... did absolutely nothing.
>>584526482I think Christians still cry when their loved ones take the plane to heaven to go on vacation with Jesus. and that's without there being infinite separate afterlives and being at the whims of Pelagos to sort you together instead of being sent to Maldraxxus as construct parts
Is "life" in wow kinda like being in the matrix? A false lower state of reality. Wouldn't killing yourself be the correct thing to do once you know it's all bullshit? I can't recall there being any consequences for suicide in shadowlands. May have missed it, but what is even the point of life?
>>584526593>Is the The Arcantina canon?Yes? Probably anyway, I we just straight up go there in a campaign with lore characters acknowledging it, so I guess so. And it's fuckin' stupid how many modern characters also knew about it before us, but whatever.That's not even remotely the same thing though, so I don't know what you're implying.
>>584526593>Is the The Arcantina canon? if it is then everyone is just hanging out all the time anywayYes and yes.Everyone's always been a wholesome chungus and this whole war stuff has been for us, the audience.Arcantina is the behind the scenes where you get to talk to the actors.
>all those chests that contain myth and hero crests in the labyrinth are one time only per accountWhy though, it's not like you can transfer them
>>584526694Faith isn't the same as knowing. People on wow know for a fact there is an afterlife. There is no possibility of being wrong.
Lot of negativity itt about 12.1.5 anons and it's shit BUT be sure you get that dope ass hearthstone before you quit
>>584526748life is the only time you're free and not subjected to an eternity as a cog in the shadowlands's Systemssylvanas was actually right about the whole thing being broken, and the arbiter swap was just a tiny bandaid to something deliberately designed wrong
>>584526482>>584526889It's still more of a second life, apparently you can still die in the Shadowlands and it'd be perma-death. Existence erasure.Which is real fuckin' weird that we just dropped the Drust story in Ardenweald because that's a pretty fuckin' huge amount of souls and such that are just experiencing existence erasure, but fuck, we gotta help Lady Moonberry dye someones hair in a prank!
>>584526790not anon but I actually think a majority of the anniversary event IS canon.We have plenty of main characters interacting with each other, stuff is included (like weddings) that is referenced later. It's played up as an in game festival like brewfest or whatever. It stretches the 4th wall, but the arcantina already does that. Nothing referenced in the anniversary celebration is explicitly 4th wall breaking.It also came after we had a giant patch involving the bronze dragons so we're used to dealing with them.
>3% wipe on sissy'ix followed by 60% wipe>immediate bickering>RL goes kick crazy>disbandThe wowbuck is inherently self-sabotaging.
>>584526307And Durotan got assassinated off-screen?
>>584527289Yep.
>>584527020Maybe there's a Super-Shadowlands with Super Death
>>584527485Please don't present the possibility for Garrosh to return, I don't want modern Blizzard touching our boy.
>>584526978>>584527020My theory is the shadowlands is a soultrap made by the Titans to stop souls from escaping their system. Dying in the shadowlands might be how you escape. What's the Drusts deal? Really didn't pay attention.
>>584527823>What's the Drusts deal?We don't know because Blizz keep dropping their fucking stories before we can actually do anything significant to them.They just start invading, we push the leader of that invasion back and then... nothing.The BFA situation wasn't resolved, nor was the Ardenweald one.
>every other arms i see has the fucking myth sword off the new raidreroll tokens were a mistake
>>584527954Xally should die at the end of Midnight by a giant tree being shoved through her and then a hot plant woman appears as leader of the drust and SIKE it's not a TLT expansion but really a Drust expansion and we have complete art style change in the same direction as Absolute Batman
>>584528335Absolute Warcraft would be fuckin kinoAbsolute Garrosh would look like Bane
>>584527669He'd be in alternate Draenor's Shadowlands wouldn't he?
i love hanging out with azralon gay furries
>>584528739Why azralon specifically? That server may very well be the worst of them all.
I <3 not leaving my room for 8 months
KEK RETOILETS
>>584528641It's real fuckin' weird how that works because Garrosh, Captain Taylor and whoever the fuck else all died in AU Draenor and yet ended up back in current timeline SL...So either the Kyrian are also time travellers that can correct peoples placement, or Shadowlands is just this eternal place where time is nonexistent and everyone is just showing up there regardless of timeline.
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>>584528641Doesn't exist, runs off the same nonsense bullshit as "one legion for all timelines" which falls apart after 1 second of thought.
god i wish i were my dracthyr
post you're dracthyr flirts>You like bad dragons? I'm a real bad dragon.>My visage form is supposed to represent what I most want inside of me. But I can't walk around Valdrakken disguised as your dick now, can I?>I might go infinite after tonight. Because I refuse to live in the timeline where we don't fuck.>Scaling issues? We can find a workaround...>I'll leave you soar on cooldown.
>>584529223>visage mentionedstopped reading right there desu
>>584529117>"one legion for all timelines" which falls apart after 1 second of thought.Also I thought Archimonde died-died in WC3 because he got his whole ass summoned and got perma-killed by wispsBut it turns out it didn't? And the one in WoD was that same Archimonde?
Well, at least we know the Last Titan gonna be hyper kino because I bet that right now they are having an emergency meeting, delaying 12.2 and 13.0 and reworking the content and the cutscenes.
>>584524840>[Thunderfury, Blessed Board of the Windshredder]>[Thunderfury, Blessed Board of the Windshredder][Thunderfury, Blessed Board of the Windshredder]>[Thunderfury, Blessed Board of the Windshredder]>OMG DID SOMEONE SAY [Thunderfury, Blessed Board of the Windshredder]???
>>584529459Yes. Also the cutscene is non-canon and the mythic death in the twisting nether is where is died. Yes that means the "him thowing Gul'dan through the portal as he died" thing is fucking impossible but whatever.
I'm having a character crisis.
>>584529408Visage shit is so dumb. It makes sense for dragons cause they are simply too big to interact with mortals otherwise. Fuck off I say. My Dracthyr loves who he really is and doesn't cope in visage form pretending to be someone he isn't. Dumb troon slop.
writers room hags blood eagled live on stage at blizzcon when?
>>584529459Thanks for reminding us that WoD was truly a catastrophe on the scale of an extinction event, and that even the shitty story of WorldSoul Saga seems like a masterpiece compared to WoD.
>>584528853you don't get it, not talking about the blood elf paladin or DH dipshits from there. there's just something so whimsical about the spanish gay furries
I am going to play Forever and have fun.I will also enjoy the classicfag cope in 2 months time when the population has plummeted like it always does.
>>584529782I liked the zone stories of WoD, the garrison was also fun to build up (for a while), being a commander of a base was a neat conceptBut it was definitely rough, and foreshadowing for what Legion and BFA would bring
>>584529745I dont even know why it was an option before dracthyr could be other classescombat spells activated your true form like a worgen curse but they made a faggot passive that regened resources for the party while out of combat if you were in troon form (i will never use it btw)
>>584529075>>584528641>Shadowlands is just this eternal place where time is nonexistent and everyone is just showing up there regardless of timeline.That's what they went with
The "one Legion across all timelines" is so fucking stupid, always has been.>alternate Velen exists>so alternate Argus must exist, and thrus alternate KJ and Archimonde>alternate demon KJ and Archimonde don't existLike all the had to fucking do was "yeah it's just an alternate timeline, alternate everything exists obviously" and say Bronze Dragonflight and Twisting Nether unstable fuckery lead to Gul'dan being thrown into our timeline.Sure, it's just bad but at least it isn't "holy fuck this makes no god damn sense".
>>584529541Anon all their meetings are about Forever now
>>584530049I like how that implies every being across each timeline is just unique, otherwise we'd have infinite Garrosh, Kael, ect. Oh wait we met alternate versions of characters so they're not.Oops!
>>584530120I cope by pretending that infinite retard from MoP was experimenting by creating a pocket dimension
>tumor of the swarm>band of the swarmcallerI AM LEGION
>>584529706your character is fine. dont let people get to you. most ppl these days dont even hold cogent beliefs because its given to them by social media feed.beliefs have always been reinforced by social dialogue, in a sense you have never been able to control your own beliefs at any point in history and arent really geared to justify them at a moment's notice. this was historically a luxury afforded to wealthy nepo baby philosophers.
>>584529706damn i love grilled cheese gotta slap some ham on there too, get a little blackening on that hammie. mmm mm mm.
>>584530152WoWforever will never have as many players as the retail version. Never in a million years. And it will never generate as much revenue from the the ingame shop.Money. That's all they want.
>>584526958This is a joke right? The hearthstones are all garbage since they go to one single place. You can get it in story mode btw.
>>584530425well, market share
>>584524328It's setup for her resurrecting her mum
>my rep on my main for legion reps went down to revered>even though I maxed out everything on my main>AND during Lemix>Also I'm missing mounts now?>opened a ticket for it>blizz finally responded>check wowhead??
>>584529981I liked watching the natural progression of things through expansions with the first NPC's you come in contact with.Where vanilla you're a literal who nobody starting out.Outland you're an experienced body to throw at the demons.Northrend you were recognised for your achievements in Outland.Catacylsm has recognition from main characters to call on you specifically.MoP makes you a high value person for special task direct from Garrosh/Varian.WoD makes you Commander of a Garrison for the entire campaign.Legion you're just straight up made leader of your class.BFA you're straight up Azeroths champion.Problem with all that though is it takes away heavily from the MMO aspect and turns WoW into a single player game. You suddenly disappear when raid stories start and its a bunch of rando 'heroes'. Shadowlands doesn't even really make a lot of sense when you're the super special Maw Walker, but then also a random bunch of unacknowledged mortals come hit up Castle Nathria or whatever.Now expansions keep trying to paint you as the important figure, but you are also doing abso-fucking-lutely nothing in a sense. You're literally a side character while the main characters have all their drama and shitty crisises.These ingame cutscenes they keep doing to make sure our character is present, we're never front and center of them anymore. We just kinda stand off to the side, or sometimes wander into frame.That's the main thing with Forever that I understand what people mean with the writing. They're not writing around characters, they're writing around you, like the old days (so I hear anyway, I haven't bothered trying it).
Ive main a lock and a dk for years. ive pushed up to resil 16 and now I feel like I hit a boring wall. Could I have some suggestions on a new class to play? it sucks to say but I kind of dont know shit about other classes besides mine.
>>584530481It saves a bag space and has a cool animation
>>584530401Hey give it back
>>584530559>>opened a ticket for itLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>584530665they need to either make the player character the main character with a support cast that gets fleshed out over seasons or go back to us being a group of adventurers and the story is put on the backburner and have the world tell the story.Since Forever is doing the latter, I really hope they throw away most of the cast of the Worldsoul Saga and introduce a bunch of new, fresh blood for whatever comes next.
>>584529745The visage shit is dumb coz Nagas have visages too yet they won't let us have them
>>584530772well what the fuck else am I supposed to do?
>>584526958>void hearthstone #390451I heard Blizzard will burn down if they don't add void hearthstones each patch.
>get fabled slayer of kinder janny with no issues>watch my friend get hit with constant gamebreaking bugs before he even finishes a single labyrinth>he might miss out on the title because of it
>>584530559they're investigating
Is Shadowmourne canon
>>584531032Everything in game is by definition canon.
M+ is dead lmao
>>584530984It's already at 24k. The achievement and title are literally meaningless. Bad title anyway.
>>584530832Very true, at this point they can't even retain the same voice actors for characters they bring back, and the ones they can also just sorta sound done with it. It's a paycheck to them.Honestly, I still maintain Shadowlands initially was interesting with a whole cast of new characters. Or at least it was past Bastion and the first half of Maldraxxus.Goes straight to hell immediately with the Korthia patch, but hey.
So who wins the "most ridiculous death in worlo" award? Vol'jin or Liadrin?
>>584531275Liadrin is stupid but Vol'jin literally got killed by a trash mob.
>>584531331And Liadrin got killed by nothing.
>>584531371But she died happy knowing she united elves and trolls.
>>584531143It will give an accurate estimate of how many subs there really are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSf0pzRXfrE
>>584531371She died after overexerting past her limit which is a standard anime trope. Less embarrassing than the horde warchief getting ran through by Angry Felguard (level 57)
>>584531275Liadrin. Vol'jin actually got stabbed by a bigass polearm from a trash mob, so at least it wasn't a question of "wait how did he die?" like Liadrin.
>don't post anything to hype up 12.1.5 >don't post anything to celebrate the launch>already posting 12.2 hypeThey knew 12.1.5 was going to be a disaster
>>584531464looks like shit no one wants to play this garbage, go back to retail
>>584531275Taylor was killed by Wrathion in some hidden footnote in a book in some irrelevant quest area.
>>584531493We've seen way more impressive feats of light than what she did. But they were from male characters.What did Blizzard mean by this? Women are weak and fragile and can't actually do what men do without injuring themselves/dying?
>>584531493No, it's still pretty fuckin' embarrassing with a bunch of other main characters and a raid group there, all with different powers to be able to do similarly.Worse when they knew she was exerting herself so much and they still just stood there cheering, celebrating and partying while she was obviously dying behind them.
ehm..?a 0?this....this cannot be!
>>584531727It's embarrassing and shitty but you will never convince me anything will be worse than the WARCHIEF getting killed by a nameless trash mob.Especially when you compare it to how Varian died in that same expansion.
>>584531450Yeah after you multiply it by 10 to account for the other 90% of the subs in forever
>people always asking for necromancer>shaman was right there all along, speaking with the spirits of the dead.
>>584531896same cutscene
>>584532076Even worse.
God the questline for this patch is peak friendslop.No one is allowed to hate each other anymore.
>>584531896>>584532076>>584532102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzVTxGIaSSU
This "death scene" was the dumbest cutscene yet and no amount of coping and crying will change the fact.Unfortunately blizzard will keep making the same dumb shit so if you dislike it, either quit playing retail or get on with it. They won't fire the foids and troons responsible for this ravesty.
>root market crashing now that they drop in delveblizz just hates the idea of m+ players breaking even huh
>>584532338delvin melvins just keep winning
>>584530908Take the L and wait for a hotfix and pray its retroactive Blizzard support (literal outdated chatbot) is the worst support on the planet right now. Newly hired inexperienced and untrained pajeet scammers would be more helpful
Today I will remind them.
>>584531275If you farm the dragon soul raid, ultraxion is pure comedy. Gives a big dumb edgelord speech and immediately dies. Love it. Makes me laugh everytime.
>>584531804is rogue fun?
>>584533132Grocery store aunties rule the american job market.
>>584533132So what? The game is still just collect 10 boar hides like every other MMO. Who give a shit who 'designs' them?
>>584533304>impossible to have a debate
>>584533447Without being called a troon or brown? Yeah, that's the site now.
>>584533132Here's to hoping that all these women are fired after TLT launches.
>>584533576>And for my next step of the retarded internet debater pipeline, it says I should double down with a strawman
>>584533768What debate are you even referring to? I just jumped in the thread and scrolled to the bottom like everyone else does. You expect anyone to read all of the bullshit you retards bicker about? This is /vg/, genius, not some one off thread where the topic is unique and a particular post might be important.
why nobody wants me in their guild
>>584534063Alright I'll bite just this time you disingenuous troon.I refer to the meme pointing out how it's impossible to have a debate with people like you, because you start acting stupid, so the debate goes nowhere.The topic being "so what these old fat hags design the game, it's only about collecting bear asses anyway" when everyone laughs at the stupid writing as well as the plethora of bugs and other problems that have become a common issue for retail.
>Killed off Sarvi>Killed off the Blood Knight chick in voidstorm>Killed off Liadrin nowsome cunt up there is getting off on killing female elves.
The party rockers... they were right....
>>584534892~1920s to 2020s is going to gown down in history as the century we spent learning that women should never EVER have rights.
>new rexxar set coming out in-game store today/tomorrow>also features a toy that morphs your hunter pet into one of Rexxars>mog set also available in classic wowwonder how much this set will cost
>>584534998worse version of the varian set
>>584535062and mag'har heritage set
>>584534557Except barely anyone reads quest text or even watches cutscenes. Whenever you lorefags get going it's always just one or two of you. Why do you think it's never some 10 person debate. You're the vocal minority. I feel for you guys that apparently shit sucks but as you all say it ended with Legion, and some argue even further back. Long before the transexual DEi wok whatever fucking word you want to use. So what is the point of complaining about the lore if it's been so bad for so long? What is the point of speaking into deaf ears? Obviously nothing will get better, so let go and stop obsessing over the past so much. This isn't the place to change Blizzard's objectives and you know that. All you're doing is bitching into the void and ruining this site for everyone along the way.
>pedofurry thread deleted>now they are shitting this thread
>>584534998No Alliance will ever buy it
>>584535415Where?
>>584534998No mount, no buy
>>584535496just like the varian set eh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLpzYbRbd50OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584524756Did Forever engine unlocked some new features modders can now use to make their own games? First it was vampire survivors with the mage killing a bunch of mobs, now this. Watch some of these game becoming more popular than Forever
>>584535415furries btfo
>Liadrin died of exhaustion, using all of her life force to protect us>This shows just how powerful the enemy was.>This shows just how much Liadrin has changed, she didn't hesitate for a single second to sacrifice herself for us and for Azeroth.It's unironically absolute cinema and that's something we'd never had in WoW. But I honestly think that today's generation of WoW players has had their brains so fried by youtube,tiktok, and marvel slop that they don't realize it.Not all deaths have to be heroic. And not all heroic deaths are necessarily scenes from “Avengers vs. Thanos.”RIP Lady Liadrin. You will not be forgotten.
>>584536124Blizzard employees, I...
We need to accept Chris Metzen is washed.Also I want my horde issued Tauren spouse
>>584536124being a mindless contrarian isnt clever or funny, it just makes everyone think youre an annoying moron.
>>584536220i wish tauren looked even 10% as good in game as they do in the art, official or otherwise.their game models and animations are fucking terrible and every transmog in the game fits them like a child wearing their dads armor
>>584536408>play retarded race>be surprised when armor looks retardedyour iq lvl is the same as negroW fags
Trannys get real uppity when king gay panda isn't here. Cowards.
>the moment where story and everything went shit was Dragonflight cinematic>tone of the game changed and it's gay
does nerub need a tree druid
>>584536642you didnt like the MLP friendship is magic ending DF had?wtf u bigot
>>584536642>even Shadowlands was more badass than Dragonflight even if players say it's the worst expansion of all times (now it's midnight)
>>584536761>>584536642stories been shit since the second patch of bfa when we abandoned race war in favor of kumbaya vs the void and started this retarded Xalatath story.Blizzard is OK at making expansions launch stories but they ALWAYS fuck it up with lower effect shovel patches after.BfA Started fairly strong even if Zandalar got wakanda'd. Then the Zin azshari patch was a bit week and 8.3 was dogshit. Shadowlands started somewhat strong aside from the abominable story. Then 9.1 was dogshit. ZM was kinda interesting but it just felt like fanfiction and the voerarching story was both retarded and boring.Dragonflight started pretty good actually except that the primary antagonists could have been cooler, zones were good, primalists were a weak link, "an protodragon" as bigbad was s shit idea. then Zaralek happened and while the raid was cool the story was again, dogshit and it added niffen, making it literally the worst patch ever.TWW started sorta well, and undermine was cool for a bit, though it did get stale eventually. then Koprthia was just dull as fuck.The problem with WoW is squarely in the writers room. They keep trying to make it a big epic story driven game but they cannot deliver and they keep giving us these shovelware filler patchs that only server to antagonize people and make us not give a shit about the story.the ONLY takeway Im getting from the story lately is that they keep killing off likeable characters who I enjoy seeing and telling me I should sympathize with literal murderous monsters. I shant.I just cannot give a shit about the story anymore. IMO everything written post 8.0 is non canon. Its all just fucking retarded and what little bit of decent story they added by accident gets drowned post facto in the low effort dogshit they shovel out in point patches
>>584536648they desperately need to make tree of life a full time form instead of a cooldown
Im a no life loser who will never hold a job or a woman’s hand, where do I apply to your mythic roster?
https://x.com/Portergauge/status/2110180184196255815porterfaggaygnome etc, but are commiefornians even human? Instead of letting her grief for her mother, she's the weekly questgiver in place of her mother after completing the 12.1.5 raid, jesus fucking christ
>"no one cares about the story">game shits itself and dies whenever the story gets too retardedthe math isn't mathing
>>584538926People aren't going out of their way to read multiple books and shit, but they're going to lose interest if you can't make the stuff you're fighting look cool or make sense at least.
>>584539148MULTIPLE books?!?! You mean there's MORE than one? How could anyone be expected to ready MORE than one book???
for me it was the buildup and payoff of Ysera dying in Legion. that shit had me getting emotional and shit
>>584538926The story and the setting are mildly important. You can have the best class design and content ever but if the expansion is about fighting pink ponies in dildoland while wearing a dress most people are gonna fuck off.
>>584537629mythic rosters only want guys who have great skills
>/v/ is laughing at us... again
Are Blood Elves still sperging out about Liadrin?
>>584539859They should
I'll believe blizz is turning around when they bring back male and female.
>>584520227beautiful hotwife what a lucky cuck
>>584538926the story doesnt matter until its so dogshit that its dragging down the rest of the game by killing peoples enthusiasm with its shittiness.exemplified in this case by us winning a pointless filler patch boss fight and having a beloved character killed off flippantly even though we won.and like that one article said the entire is a collection of unrelated "and then"s instead of a series of rational "therefore"s It feels like there not actual connection between anything and then having someone weve known for 20 years killed off so randomly is just a kick in the balls that feels malicious.Like its we get server a bread sandwich with this patch and then the waiter kicks us in the balls when we go to pay the bill. It feels spiteful and mean spirited. As many things have in general and this expansion in particular. Like I said earlier someone is clearly getting off to writing bad ends for elves. I get that most people might not see Liadrin as a character people are attached to but If you play belfs over the years and in particular if you play paladin shes more identifiable as a racial rep than Lorthremar and for Paladins she's been Paladin mom for literally 20 years.I was actually really glad to see her finally getting attention, a new model, screen time and development and then she just gets unceremoniously acked in a fight that we won. I legit want to see this retconned, its retarded and she deserves better.Whats happening is the old hag writers with shit taste are slowly killing off every decent and likeable character leaving us with a collection of bitter assholes, monsters, cryboy fags and smug girlbosses. Were getting game of thrones where the story is going to just completely implode at some point because everyone left is hateful turd.The story doesnt matter until it is the whole in the hull that sinks the ship, its the SAME FUCKING OLD CAT LADIES as before that never got canned for killing the IP with this EXACT SAME SHIT in Shadowlands.
>try to do supposedly fixed labyrinth >chamber 3 bugs out and bricks run>"okay that didn't take that long to get there i'll go again">chamber 4 bugs out and bricks runOkay fuck off.
Now that the dust has settled, which one was better?
>>584539859/v/ has been the reddit board for at least 13 years. The Forever and Classic generals? That's /v/. That's reddit. That's the WoW forum discussion faggots. Let them laugh. I don't care. >>584540723Wait for the hotfix on the daily reset you fucking retard.https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24296142/hotfixes-october-14-2026
>Lor'Themar losing the masculinity contest to 2 women>"We're not messing around."
They are brining Liadrin back as the undead paladin leader, she will be lightforged just like Calia. They would never REALLY kill off a female character
>>584540835but /wowg/ and reddit r/wow is the same, they even share same users
>>584540941random retards don't make up a populace
back in my day we shunned the mere mention of r*dd*t occasionally it was a bannable offense. but there's no sense in trying to get a different version of the past to come back, which is why I'm not playing Forever™. I am playing forever, just not Forever™
>>584540881makes too much sense FUCK!!!!!
>>584540831TWW and its not a contest. The only good things about Midnight are Eversong, Zulaman and housingthe rest of it is SHITI cannot give a rats ass about the world core or xalatath or the story ever again.I struggled to before At least TWW had interesting side characters and uniformly decent zones. fully half of Midnight thus far is boring dogshit.The only thing REALLY wrong with TWW was Karesh and SHOCKER it was the patch about Xalatath.Get her out of the fucking story shes AWFUL and has stuck around for like 3 years too long.If they try to "redeem" her im gonna puke.We need to kill monsters, not sympathize with them.I am not a doomer, I try hard to enjoy WoW. And once again the story is being so intrusively shitty that it is damaging my ability to enjoy the rest of the game and the only thing I can do is COMPLETELY disregard it.Like Im not gonna do this raid, Im not gonna do the campaign, I dont give a fuck if that locks me out of S3, I sucked it up and suffered the wewuzzing to get to coiled isle and my reward was a pile of dogshit.
>>584540881>You're dead>A random DK or priest resurrects you>You never asked for this.>You're doomed to live forever as a fucking rotten walking corpseOne of the most evil stuff in WoW.
dracthyr shamans when
>>584541062Which means that most of the 4chan wow posters are from reddit and couple of retards who do not use reddit don't make up the populace.
>>584540831One brings shadow, one brings the light
>>584541375100% this. TWW started as a pure cinema expansion.
>>584541608it's so bright and beautiful
>>584541560You need a dick or vagina to be a Shaman.
The night is darkest before the dawn
>no retoilet races in Fogever
>>584541375She won't be out of the story until TLT at least, but they probably aren't going to kill her off she will just change and be good and we will learn people were mean to her when she was a child 50k years ago so all her actions are fine and she will be forgiven. But they will not kill her off this patch masquerading as an expansion because they've built up no other villains going into TLT and this is billed as a trilogy so it's going to be again about Xal'atath and probably Arathor and Alleria as the protags again to finish up their hunt storyline.
>>584540831>>584541608Tales of loss and fire and faith
>>584539773Minus the several dead weight players in every group thats not pro.
>>584541375I like this new Avatar
>>584541885for me it was Star Wars
No sir, I'm not dropping shadow form.
>>584541869Writers room purge when.>When your morality and sense of self are so utterly empty and lacking substance that you start writing about teaming up with the villains trying to murder your and your people.Like theyre taking the "Horde and alliance team and fight the bads" thing and because they have made the horde and alliance the same and friends, extended the idea to the bads.The players and that bads team up and go to survivors therapy and bond over victimhood.Like FUCK THESE PEOPLE. Californians are not human, they are mindless drones.
>quick we need new toys to sell worlo to the based players>Undead Paladin!>kino, now quick we need a short storyline and quest to introduce them>Kill the Matriarch Paladin and ress her>kino, quick put that in a random patch in a random raid in a random cutesceneRushed content. This is the mother of all our problem in worlo.
>>584542786Hahahahaha good one
Idk I had fun in s1 except for the last week, s2 just boring as fuck idk
>>584542786I think Midnight is WoD>rushed content to please someone else (not the player)>Poor storytelling and worldbuilding>nothing interesting to do if you don't raid or m+>Metzen
>>584541869wym… Iridikon is still there… and Iridikon and Xalath’s boss is still at large :)
Unironcially cannot wait for the main antagonist to be a charismatic light zealot emperor man
>>584542640I swear everything Metzen said at BlizzCon 2023 was improvised on stage.
>>584542957>IridikronSeriously who the fuck cares about this faggot?You think he's something like Gul'dan when he's not even close to that.
Why does this game have so many autistic midwit apologists who are incapable of criticizing anything about the game?They use like mentally ill levels of effort to make excuses for this buggy ass product, it's so creepy.Are they women?
>>58454312920 years of sunk cost fallacy, this is Blizzard's version of disney adults and Star Wars fans
whats the best delve setup as a dps
>>584541930>join raid group>i (dps) am the only one that does everything perfectly every single pull>waste 2 hours on 20 people once a weekreminder that the 'top players in the world race to world's first faggots with the most efficient teams of WoW super gigantic big dick gamers' are embarrassing.i'm putting together a team
>>584543102Youre attempting to argue about power levels or something? Im merely stating he still exists lmao. Do you autists actually think about the words you read here?
>>584521898You have no raid progress and only done 12s, why are you acting like everything is bad when you haven't played it
>>584543129All you or anyone does is criticize the game. Nonstop. Everywhere. Even in the game. I see more 'durrr small indie company hurr' people in game every day than sentences I've written in my entire life. Where the fuck are these 'midwit apologists'? The one person you talked to that isn't a jaded nigger? Kill yourself you retarded sheep.
>>584543349>power levelsWhere the fuck you got that
Classic is gonna be killed soon
>>584543465Your brain is super big.
https://x.com/Warcraft_DE/status/2110641847836021114The next chapter of Midnight: Eclipse Explore a new region, claim the legendary dagger, and unite to protect the World Soul itself.we are taking the dagger from xalatath and absorbing azeroth...
>>584543751>Everyone gets a Priest artifact weaponSick.
>>584543751Did they schedule that tweet a month late? We already know this.
https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2110445540357837189DEAD GAME
>>584543591> You think he's something like Gul'dan when he's not even close to that.???literally power level autismo arguing
>>584544017>We already know this.I didn't
>>584544051These dragontards are so fucking retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLpzYbRbd50DEAD GAME
Furthermore arguing about villian “power level” is silly, they all end up being endgame bosses in a raid. Ula’tek is the most powerful villian by “power level” faggotry logic because she took the longest to down.
>>584543509spotted one of the midwits lol. So how easy it is to make these people rage out? That's what I mean. It's gotta be either gays or women.
>>584544378>ingame power = lore
>>584544579you know "..." is epic ragebait when you literally hesitate to type it mid key LOL.The way people respond to bait in Retail now is by spamming the report button on you like a 12 year old girl. This game is for faggots now.
>>584542952>Poor storytelling and worldbuildingWoD and Midnight are polar opposites in this regard. WoD's premise is extremely stupid, but the actual worldbuilding and storyTELLING is great. Draenor is very well realized. Midnight has a fantastic premise that it proceeds to squander every last drop of potential with its horrendous storytelling, and the worldbuilding is just taking a bulldozer and flattening everything it touches.
>>584544402So you're gay or a woman? That's your logic? All it takes to piss anyone off these days is stating that that you enjoy something. Say the small indie developer line again. Say based again. Say kino again. Do it all again and pretend you're unique, again.See >>584535107 because you didn't understand it the first time. Keep thinking you're some rebel.
>>584544797>Midnight has a fantastic premise
>>584544909He's right, Xally attacking the Sunwell to access Azeroth egg is pure cinema.
>>584544909the premise of an epic battle between the forces of the Light and Void on the backdrop of the Sunwell shooting a giant beat to resist an enormous evil storm is greatthe actual execution of that story is a complete disaster
>>584544865>no u!! is your legit response lolAlso who the fuck are you talking about? There's more than one poster in here. You're just proving how dumb you are the more you post, must be a 15 year old or some shit, you're like hilariously stupid lmao.
>the spanish, german and french warcraft accounts on twitter all made a post about 12.2panic mode?
>>584523906How did she die?
>>584523906+1
>>584545367She couldn't stand being written by the modern WoW team anymore and died of cringe on the spot
>>584545367she died to Kith'ix, the most powerful C'Thraxxi general of the Old Gods. She basically carries the fight against him and dies by overexerting herself
>>584545221I'm not the one shitposting about a game I claim to hate in the general of said game for years. Say it again. Keep trying to fit in to the one place fitting in has never mattered. Keep doing it. Keep ruining all you claim is sacred. Keep it up.
>>584545617C'vax status?Healthy middle aged elf paladins dont just keel over and die on the field of raid boss.
>>584545617So the snake shit is just old gods again? Isn't xalatath something something muahahaha my evil plan the world soul or something? Why are we fucking around with snakes?
>>584545617in reality she died to some random big evil that popped up with no warning, all of that additional stuff you're talking about was in some book nobody read
>>584545804Had you parsed better in the fight, maybe she wouldn't have died, shitter>>584545812Xally subjugated him, but that doesn't change who he is
>>584545812No, the snake shit was preventing old god stuff.So we killed Ula'tek and suddenly this dude revives, because Ula'teks presence being contained in the temple was just keeping him from resing.
>>584545104>pure cinema
>midnight is........ le BAD>why?>uhhhhhhh the story is shitty o algo
>>584547109
>iridikronfags are power level retards
>>584547348Power level retards are the only fans the story has left, they debate all day about capital letter Concepts like Order and Disorder and the First Ones and the fractals and the Zereths and wonder why everyone with a pulse has tuned out of this franchise
>>584541803Saved this one even though it's slop. I love breast envy
>>584545617What did she do to overexert herself to that extent? When did this happen? I did the fight but she didn't do anything special.
Whos more fun for healer, shaman, monk or paladin
>>584542952WoD had way more content than Midnight. We got two old zones redone and a Netherstorm knockoff, and to round it out they withheld a zone from the previous expansion and threw that in. WoD zones were shit and too small but there were lots of them.
>>584542952Midnight is even worse than WoD.
>>584547730Definitely not Shaman.
>>584547697She makes the safe zone and the supercharged buff area you probably ignored in the final phase
>>584547572see >>584545636
>>584542952LOL Midnight wishes it were anywhere close to WoD
>>584540662You're almost afraid to see an old character because they're either going to get character assassinated and/or unceremoniously killed off.
>>584547856No i saw that, but like i said that's nothing special. Dozens of other character NPCs have done this exact same shit for us in fights and they never had an issue. It's okay when chromie throws up a protective bubble to protect from iridikron or even fucking zul'jara shielding us from nalorakk but liadrin does it and just keels over with literally zero drama?
>>584533132why aren't these women moms with 3 white kids at least
>>584538926the people defending the story at its worst care about it less than everyone else, they just want you to stop criticizing their favorite game. this is why their first resort defense is always, without fail "it was always shit so stop complaining"
the story team has the biggest budget in retail chud. You need to support the Council, Union contract and its LGBY agendaa
>>584548134Are you the same guy who was trying to argue about DBZ power levels earlier? Im answering your question and youre autismo getting angry at me, i didnt write the story ask them blizz about that.
>>584543751So are shadow priests getting any flack for their role in things?
>>584543751Why would I need to claim it?
>Be me, Titan Puncher.>Team up with some void bitch and get her the mcguffin so she could forward her plans to get the Titans to Azeroth>Watch her fail said plan two minutes after I leave her alone to deal with some guys underground>Watch her detour to Goblin town>Watch her detour to Space>Watch her detour to Quel'thalas>Two years later she's finally getting back on plan and trying to further the plan we agreed on three years back>tfw still no Titans to punch
So why don't I, a Death Knight PC, just raise every single named character that dies in the plot?
>>584542952At least WoD had the cool factor and the fact that everything what it had was complete, worked fine and it didn't break up lore or story of the game. Midnight otherwords has faggotry put on to the max, patches are broken, nothing makes sense and it's gay as fuck.And one more thing, there where WoD was announced to be abandoned by the devs, Midnight is not and it feels like it has already been abandoned for a better version, Forever. They probably trying to milk those who still haven't let go of retail and pull the plug once The Last Titan final patch hits the servers.
>>584548174It has always been shit though. It only matters to all of you now because you're performing and finally lonely because everyone else has moved on. WoW was always an MMO first. Its story was never the pull. You're all tourists from FFXIV who want hours and hours of 'story' cutscenes. Nobody really bitched much about WoW's story until Dragonflight when all the tourists bailed off FFXIV's Endgame expansion. Now for years you all pretend like you always cared. Now everyone is somehow so invested in the story. Kill yourselves.
>>584543751We are literally just put Xally into the dagger again, right? This is how we win.
>>584542952Metzen didn't even finish working on WoD, he moved over to help Jeff Kaplan make OW from the corpse of Titan
>>584548909>Its story was never the pull. Correct, the pull was the dumb epic action scenesNotice how those no longer exist and the cutscenes are just about close ups of the characters looking vaguely happy or vaguely sad, or both at the same time, like they're all heavily sedated
>>584548860Never trust a woman to do a mans job.
>>584548982>"Metzen moved over to OW? Better abandon this expansion then!"
>>584548892that's slavery and white colonizer coded, chudcel
>enemy attacks>our heroes say "ignore the battle, champion, and evacuate the civilians">my character has no choice but to do thisHappens in the opening scene of Midnight AND The new patch btw
>>584549109Truly one of the ideas of all time, but what can you expect from ex Titan devs?
>>584549142Council approved. War is bad, chud, and glorifying it for the sake of "fun" or "story" is heinous.
>>584549062This. Every single relevant character is some insecure introspective sissy wrecked by self-doubt. The ones that aren't turn evil and are put down.
>>584549221In the opening scene, Turalyon appears and says "we have to fight back the enemy" and all the questgivers including Lorthemar are all like "Turalyon has gone mad with rage, he can think of nothing but bloodshed".
>>584549114But this would imply me as a death knight am the victim of said slavery and white colonization thus am fully free to do it myself.
>>584548487No i just opened the thread like 5 minutes ago i haven't done or said anything remotely angry yet. I just genuinely want someone to talk about this because it's insane. There are so many fights in this game where an NPC throws up a protective area to defend from some mega annihilation attack and no character has randomly died for it with no warning or notice. 3 rando paladins did it in voidspire even. It's so ridiculous.I cannot fathom how this made it passed any kind of approval. They couldn't even write some shit to make it impactful and dramatic? They couldn't make her scream out in agony as she strains herself? Call out she is giving it all she has even if it costs her her life? Couldn't make lorthemar shout out to stop because he notices she is channeling too much and it's going to kill her or something?
It's... over...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW8bVw5isaw>blood elves are le evil white skin colonizers that should pay reparations and decolonization of amani landsNuke commiefornia now
>>584549286The tone setter for the entire expansion is this massive world-threatening invasion of the void you are abruptly thrust into and are paired with Arator who is just moping and whining about his dad the whole time like you're both making awkward small talk waiting for another friend to show up
>>584549221The one on the right makes me laugh. Genuine geriatric grandma directing a game about interspecies war and testosterone (formerly)
>>584549418Both elves and trolls should leave.
>>584549062Nobody does epic 3D scenes anymore. It's a poor excuse but it's a very small dead market. When was the last fully 3D movie? RE Death Island? Why would they even throw money into it? Yeah they should do it but it's not bewildering that they just cut corners and settle for serviceable. I doubt there are even 100 people working on WoW altogether.
>>584549471And Arator is like 40 years old. Great role model.
>>584549473>Afrasiabi left Blizzard in December 2019>grandma joined Blizzard in January 2020>she's been the lead designed for everything since Sneedlandsnooticing
>>584549471The whole time I'm thinking "I'm sure you've got this Arator, but just in case I think I'll give my buddies Thrall, Jaina, Malfurion, and Caine a quick call and see if they can help out with this literal apocalypse"
>>584545221He’s a schizo that’s in the thread all day defending the current state of the game. I’m surprised he hasnt called you indian yet
>>584548982>he moved over to helplol, now that's some huge history revision. He quit because WoD was an infinite disaster
>>584549290The story of the Death Knight is a tragic allegory for brave PoCs being subjugated and assimilating to white oppression
>>584549538Yes anon, nobody makes action scenes anymore, in any media. Action is a completely dead medium.
The council of grannies has decided.We should accept their decision even if it hurts us deeply.We must be better men and humans.
I think the funniest part of all the Arator shit is that the whole totally super young Blood Elf Paladin who's been thrust into a position they clearly weren't prepared for and having to deal with the idea of possibly losing their parents again would've worked better with Salandria, especially considering they were planning to actually kill Liadrin off. Instead of y'know, the 40 year old man child with parents no one can stand anymore.
>>584548142Anon these women have grandkids
>>584549895Salandria isn't a Windrunner, this game is called World of Windrunners, she never had a chance
>>584549895The funniest part of all the arator shit to me is the new haircut and the tattoos. Genuinely might be the ugliest worst character redesign i've ever seen. He went from one of the coolest looking NPCs to looking like such a faggot that i literally cringe when i see him.
>>584550063Him and Umbric take me right out of it with their zoomer haircuts.
>>584548909Lorefags have been prevalent for decades now wtf are you on about.Has the writing ever been good? No, not really. Did people love it anyway? YesDo they still love it? No
Anyone remember the naaru?
You guys just don't get it. He's cool. He's voiced by Yuri Lowenthal. He's related to the Windrunners the most important family in the history of Azeroth. He's Me'dan done right. You wouldn't get it. The story he has of being the child of light and darkness is so much better than the one they tried doing with Anduin. He's like, amazing, cool, sexy, a hero. God I wanna be him. You'll never appreciate a real character like Arator, all you fags want is sweaty ugly Orcs and nasty buck-tooth Trolls. Arator is for real men, Arator is what Warcraft was meant to be about. Put some respect on his name
>>584550063Arator and Faerin presents the current Blizzard team.
>>584550124Sure but that wasn't my point. Apparently now everyone is a lorefag. They need to pull something out of their asses with TLT since everyone seems so bored of the raids, m+ and delves they've resorted to watching youtube lore videos or something.
>>584550116Yeah i genuinely cannot stand even looking at them. The arator cartoon they made for the expansion is so horrifically ugly it's embarrassing. It's no surprise people use that final face shot of arator as a meme image. It's an all time bad visual.
People are louder about the lore because it's been destroyed so thoroughly it's becoming all but impossible to not be at least somewhat distracted by how utterly raped the setting has become. You can't completely retool the Warcraft IP into what is effectively a different genre of fantasy aimed at a much younger audience than the current demographic without even the most mazed top end players noticing and starting to complain
>>584519695love wowg anons!!!
>>584550727I think it's far simpler than that. Ever since DF at the latest, arguably Legion at the earliest, the World of Warcraft has stopped feeling like an actual world. Because every plot they wanna tell requires half the world (most of the time Horde) to not exist for the plot to even work.Throw in we're now in an era where they can't even be fucked to do Horde and Alliance exclusive levelling, one faction is always getting thrown to the side which is making the world feel even smaller and no longer the World of Warcraft people fell in love with, because half the world is just missing. Then whenever that half of the world does show up, it's just to kill it off further like Liadrin.
>>584548860Pleasee release the Illidan and thrall and Iridikron already
It's hard to describe how the lore matters. It was bad before this patch but I was huffing copium about it and able to enjoy my WQs and Delves and Prey. Now Liadrin died essentially off-screen for basically no reason and Lorthemar was put through a humiliation ritual by a fratricidal troll kween for the sin of conquering their land 8000 years ago and every Delve is painstaking and every WQ seems to last forever.
>>584543658blizzard farming Ws all year while riot farming Ls for like half a decade now, how the turned tables
>>584534843They hate pretty women
>>584551389>pretty women
You have my sympathy, Liadrin Fans...
Imagine how based this game would be if they shuttered the Irvine campus and started over in Texas.
>>584551389>>584551431That's just it. The redesign for Liadrin to look like a natural normal women was met with such criticism that they sperged and decided they'll just kill off the pretty elf lady everyone likes and wants reverted back to her proper look so much.Spiteful bitches.
>>584551606You can actually tell that it was a relatively last minute decision to kill her off because the datamined early 12.1.5 epilogue had Liadrin still alive while they were talking about the 12.2 plot
>>584549309Thats everything in a fantasy story setting, the characters are at the whim of the writer. They couldve written in that Liandra absorbs Kithraxx and becomes even more powerful, instead they decided she dies cus she does and thatll illicit emotion from you.
>>584551606Low effort bait
She is retail's last hope
>>584551431I can't believe blizzard killed random basically irrelevant npc in such a fashionI am so angry right now
>>584552904this but unironically
>>584536124NOOO RANDOM BITCH NOBODY ACTUALLY CARED ABOUTI AM CRIYINGGN ;_____;
Kek what a random bitch
>>584552565Huns wannabe The furslop avatars are better anyway
This game is ridiculous.
>>584552904>>584553009umm she was literally the heckin' heart of the horde chud
I wonder if we will see the original nerubians in TLT?
>>584550302yuri is genuinely the only thing that doesn’t make him completely unbearable
desu i thought it was cool what liadrin did, she has now had one of the most badass paladin moments in my opinionfully channelled the light in s1 and s2, maybe she will come back in s3 with some velen shennanigans, who knows, maybe she will be an undead representative as a story quest after TLT finishes and we go into wow 2 / nilla / foreverall i know is that no other paladin has been that cool, or that infused with light power since uther, no paladin has ever came close.i'm sure this won't be the last we see of her, i have too much hopium installed in my brain
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
Liadrin deserved it, it was ME who recovered and restored Quel'delar, not her, then it just gets abandoned anyway (Did they ever actually explain anything about that? She had Quel'delar since WoD then it just disappeared.)Just surprised it wasn't Lorthemar.
>>584555593Just think that if they had sailed a little further south they could have had all of Elwynn for free.
>>584555302All replaced with HD nerubians models from woke within to save money and time
There's no way to filter the capes so the back slot only shows non-cape mogs right?
Alliance fans trying to act like Liadrin's just a random NPC because they're still seething she cucked them out of Nightborne 10 years later. Lmao
>>584555593It's even fucking funnier because if you drape it over Israel/Palestine then WoW's message is>after Israel has conquered most of Palestine and all the Palestinians that oppose Israel are all killed, and the Palestinians apologize for being mean, one random Israeli can die to redeem all of them and there can be peace but no actual shifting of territory or borders
>>584555302Playable when?
>>584556654Right after ethereals and amani lmao
>>584556086Reformat your question, please.
>nobody talks about wowforever anymore
>working on gearing an alt>bonus roll on nekzali>get soulcoilers with avoidance >bonus roll on kithix >get tendril with speed oh ok then
I still don't have venemous abyss aotc... I've been playing for 5 weeks... I do everything right in the raid... I always take egg because if i let someone else get one they will pop it... I always go back for a 2nd egg on the intermission.... If i'm group 2 i watch debuff to slow break.... I do everything right, and 200k dps overall with good dmg on heart....The pug luck / curse is real... It's gettings too long in the tooth now... Just getting invited to a run is also difficult since i dont have the cheevo even though i have many pulls and am very good at this boss fight...Send help pls... I am losing the will to live...
>>584556086Nope>>584557179ESL or retarded? Anon wants to know if there's a filter to show only back transmogs that aren't capes - probably items like wings, backpacks, floaty daggers, etc.
>>584557594Yeah, select the mog for the back slot. It was a fucking retarded question.
Nelves owe me sex.
Now that the dust has settled, what's the verdict on Labyrinths?
>>584558195I couldnt tell you, my runs keep getting bricked
>>584557441Getting your first aotc pugging this late is tough. You need to vet your team. If more than 50% of the raid doesn't have AOTC or a main with AOTC then leave right away. Lots of people in shit ilvl gear like fresh alts doing 100k dps, leave. If the geared people aren't doing good heart damage and are instead padding for the meter, leave. Tanks keep randomly dying or wiping the raid, leave. Healers can't heal tether dot, leave. If you can't get to p3 in 3-4 pulls, leave. Don't ever spend too much time in any pug unless they're hitting late P3 and wiping to silly things like early deaths because that can be corrected or the shitters will hopefully be replaced. Also you should never have to get a second egg unless the raid size is tiny as that means you're playing with idiots who don't know the fight and will kill themselves in p3 so probably leave.
>>584558195boring as fucking shit, I did it once for the fabled cheevo and I’m already dreading it doing it again for loot next week
>>584553294This game can't handle what's coming after TLT, it's already about to break
>>584556106I play horde and the last alliance character I leveled to max lvl was a dwarf hunter in WoD and I still laugh at liadrincucks lmao
>tfw enjoying the ""content"" so much I decide to take a nappy in the middle of it
>>584558329Do you think Blizzard is going to create a sequel engine for WoW 2?
>>584558603>yes it’s very important for this fantasy elf to have visible and prominent nasolabial folds
>>584556571The usual wow twitter suspects have been shitting on the writers for a long time by now for being the "oh come on guys the past is the past, let's forgive eachother and move on together in harmony :)" types.
>>584558626Forever.
>>584558717I think of forever as a WoW 1.5
welli lost my interest in forever
Shh no tears, only dreams now
I started taking finasteride and I completely stopped shedding hair bro this shit is insane
What specs are fun right now? Dps plz.
>>584559039dksdhsrogueretarcane
So you pick an expansion up to DF to level through up to 70, THEN do War Within to 80, THEN do Midnight? Already getting convoluted for something they expressly made a point of simplifying
>>584558195Looking like I'll miss the fabled achieve because the game bugs out 100% of the runs
>>584559343You can level in Zaralek or Emerald Dream also, for whatever reason in the last patch of the previous expansion, those zones were scaled up to level 80, just saiyan
>>584559343>DF to level through up to 70, THEN do War Within to 80, THEN do Midnightdoing all the main quests in DF, TWW and Midnight one after another sounds absolutely horrifyingno wonder new players just flee in terror the moment they launch WoW
>Blizzard gave sky elves Druid before Blood Elves got them on retailAm I the only one bothered by this?
how is it bugging out so hard for some people? I didn’t get a single bug even doing unintended shit like walking out of janalai room
>>584559618Why thfuck would Belfs get Druid
>>584559725BECAUSE THEY'D BE BASED
>>584559618???belves have zero druidic or shamanistic culture
>>584559787I wish we could get a hairstyle like this
>>584559812Idgaf what lore they would have to write. If they can make this OC DONUT STEEL race get druid, then surely the same can be done for Blood Elves.
>>584559812And lightforged and night elves shouldn't be able to be warlocks but here we are
>>584559812uh anon the helves had a druidic culture with the runestones, we had a belf druid in tbc and there was a druidic questline in eversong this expansion
>>584560016>>584560037humans should get druid before we even consider belves
I mean if we're being REALLY liberal with allowances AND the setting has already established anyone can get into nature magic and shapeshifting, then yes there's no real reason there COULDN'T be a Belf who just decided those arts appealed to them and chose to pursue that school anymore than you couldn't have a Gilnean who decided Shamanism sounded pretty cool
>>584559812we have orc mages and tauren rogues now, they don't give a fuck if it contradicts lore or not
>>584559604>all the main questsleveling solely through questing really doesn't take that long at all
>>584560016Warlock is just using fel magic. For Druidism and Shamanism, you need an intimate connection with the magic.
>>584559604you’ll get through maybe 10% of the campaign before you move on to the next expansion lol
I have done 2 tickets since tbc so I never really realized how shit Blizzs customer service is.Didnt realize I was still subbed for 6 months reoccurring payment.See it the day of, make a ticket no big deal.A week later get a response saying I waited to long so they couldn't help.I'm not worried about the money, I can accept I fucked up not canceling it, but its the you waited to long because they took 9 days to get back when I made a ticket less than 4 hours after being charged that got under my skin.
>>584542173
>>584560202Tauren Rogues are more eyebrow-raising from concept of a giant cow-man moving stealthily and fighting with nimble finesse than lore, Orc mages aren't breaking anything but it's definitely hard to imagine Grok'Togg performing the kind of magical studies the field seems to require
>>584559976Where have I seen this before, can't quite put my finger on it
>>584559618total blood elf death
>>584560136not really, no
>>584560586Wait wtf ever happened to her? She fucked off in Nyalotha and then ???
>>584560573> it's definitely hard to imagine Grok'Togg performing the kind of magical studies the field seems to requireI don’t find it hard to imagine when you consider ogre mages are a thing
>>584560573usually orcs would be mostly warlock or shaman leaningarcane magic seems out of place for them, which is the most prominent aspect for a mageusually ogres would be mages, not orcsif it's some generic fire/frost caster I'd rather categorize them as a shaman
you could probably find an example of every possible race/class combination in hearthstone
>>584560726Only the ones with two heads though
>>584560725They have no idea what to do with her
How many times can I do throne of thunder on one character per week and still get loot? Twice? One normal and one Heroic? Im trying to get the fancy spear Bo Ris, Horror of the Night.
>>584560885
Crazy just how much more impactful professions are in Forever compared to retail when the latter has been iterating on them for over a decade now and trying to make them super relevant.
>>584559618They won't give Blood Elf druid because it'd kill the Night Elf population
>>584560885well yeah but hs is not canon
>>584561472People cried when embellishments were strong in DF,
>>584561290sex
If Forever gets bigger than retail then I think Ion will pull the plug and make Druid available to all races.
>>584561472>impactfulmore like retarded lmao, people craft op shit every few levels for peanuts
>>584562359>classes that require new art assets>"uh yeah there is lore and thematic challenges"Ahuh. What a coincidence.
Killing elves is based, Bilzzard should do it more often
Why didn't we see any amani shadowhunters?
>>584562620The Warlock for all was always just an excuse so the Moonguard devs could justify their Night Elf Warlocks. And soon as they got it, they scrapped the whole all classes for all race shit, but made sure their Night Elves got Paladin
>>584562359>>584562703>Lightforged WarlocksYeah right..
>>584563272>Night Elves got Paladindo nelves get paladin in retail? wow
>>584563261Aren't they just a Darkspear thing
>>584563952no, he's talking out his ass
>>584563952Yes, they're getting it in 12.2
>>584564221are you retarded?
>>584564296source?>>584564473yes
>>584564498https://www.wowhead.com/news/three-new-race-class-combos-for-paladins-coming-in-patch-12-2-382828
where the FUCK is everybody?
>>584564575my mistake then
>>584564734We're on Eris sis. Need to grind that moonflesh for better games.
>Reporting for duty
>>584564580>>584564580>>584564580ITS OVER. BLIZZARD IS FINISHED AND METZEN IS BACK ON COKE.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-omnium-folio-unlocks-patch-12-1-7-echoes-of-the-worldcore-overview-383428holy kino inquisitor mog
>>584564734Fox spotted!
>>584565116Now back to our regularly scheduled keeping up with the Windrunners. Featuring Dagran II from the hit show keeping up with the Bronzebeards
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24310659/midnight-echoes-of-the-worldcore-overviewOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/4VAZHO85YPBY1792022368156.pngurbulent Timeways begins at the launch of Echoes of the Worldcore and lasts eight weeks. Players can earn the Markeet of the Infinite Skyriding Mount by completing the “Master of the Turbulent Timeways VI” achievement, awarded to champions who maintain “Mastery of the Timeways” for any four weeks during the event.New mount to collect
>>584565064>third world server general lol. lmao.
>Second Turbulent Timeways in the same yearHoly fuck. The game must be dying
Oh Cho gave her a job huh
>>584565661last expansion .7 patches also had 2 turbulent timeways with 2 mounts
>>584565729>Jaina shilling again.Why must we suffer this battered old hag?
>>584565661retardo... they add turbulent every season since df
>>584565883We should make her have sex with us, that will teach her a lesson
>no dracthyr in wowwee foreverdropped
>>584565883prime age
>>584563261They unironically forgot Shadow hunters existed and tried to make Hash'ey into the brand new OC donutsteel Shadow huntersThe hack who wrote the Loa Lorewalking questline got confused about this on Twitter and added a single sentence addendum pretending he knew later
>>584566408that make no sense, the hashey has nothing to do with shadow hunters
Peon: Players are not happy, IonIon: Quick, throw them a Turbulent Timeways mount to distract them
>you can't make friends with genocidal beings of pure evilThis is antisemitic. All media will train you revenge is bad and you will accept it.
>>584566193You really come to understand how nobody on their writing team talks to each other when they came up with a young woman paladin descendant of a famous human hero that is a love interest for Anduin, and then they forgot about her and wrote the same character again but black and disabled
>More omnium folio unlocks next patchDead game no one wants that system.
new housing decor from rexxar pack is upbut the actual transmog and toy's not in the shop, either its coming tomorrow or its a china exclusive for some reason
POST MOAR JAINA OL
>>584542256I'm watching Supernatural and the writing got so bad over time that the protagonists who kill people in every episode are now scolding each other over killing literal satan.
Why are you retards acting like turbulent timeways is a new panic move. It's been a .7 ass end of the season thing consistently since TWW.
>>584566376Nice handlebars.
>>584566821In WoW a granny tried overthrowing the nation of Stromgarde in a violent coup that killed civilians with the intent to start a race war, was stopped and then thrown in jail, then she broke out of jail so she could try overthrowing the nation of Stromgarde in a violent coup that killed civilians with the intent to start a race war, then she was stopped again, and after being spared, affirmed that she had no remorse and planned to do it againThe official website called this act "choosing restoration over vengeance", which I am sure all the people that lost family members to this still active deranged monster are happy that Danath at least is a good and moral person by Blizzard's standards
I don't mind Dagran. His design made it look like he was going to be a lot more insufferable than he turned out.
>>584567343I don't understand why people bitched so much about the design, he is like 12
>Fixed an issue where the kill credit for a boss may not register if it was the second time the boss had to be defeated in the same Labyrinth run.>Ancient Foes in the Vaults of Atal’Utek will now properly reward Primordial Venom Motes to players who defeat them while in raid groups.These are in the hotfix notes from yesterday, 15 hours ago. I have done both of these things in the past couple of hours and they're both still bugged and not working.Did blizzard post hotfix notes and literally forget to actually apply them?
>>584565607but enough about retoilet
Ion's raid difficulty autism and his reluctance to make mythic dungeons worthwhile killed my guild
Well looks like I'm sticking around here for the next few weeks. How disappointing.
>>584569129RPPvP might as well be a mini game like 100 people give a shit about that
>>584567343He's a half-breed, an abomination, not fit for the throne
Forums are killed?????
>>584569129>Their entire reasoning is BECAUSE IT WONT WORK WITH THE MEGASERVERSHmm if only there was something they could do like not have the shitty megaservers nobody likes
I just hope no Shadowlands stuff creeps into NuNorthrend content...
>>584569850I had a dream Jailer came back and took over ICC with a re-reanimated Shadow Drake Sindragosa.I hope it comes true, I love J'lor.
>>584569850Yeah, no kinolands stuff, we need NuNorthrend to be as shit as possible in order to wake the fuck up blibli for the past worlosaga
>>584569850sneedolands
>>584569850Anon it is virtually guaranteed there will be heavy Shadowlands presence. If anything them decanonizing Shadowlands as the "real" afterlife will be the excuse for them to flood Azeroth with Shadowlands characters, aesthetics, content etc. because they're not REALLY dead dead so it's okayYou could tell that whoever made the Ardenweald camp in Amirdrassil had to be dragged kicking and screaming from doing more with it because it's utterly pointless in the final zoneRemember: Shadowlands is the baby of the modern devs and they have a permanent vendetta against players for rejecting it. They want to make more Shadowlands, not Azeroth.
>>584531493Yea and it's a shit trope in general and an even fucking SHITTIER trope in a setting where healing magic that can bring someone from the literal brink of death to good as new in 2 seconds exists.
>>584566641>One last pitiful attempt to get this month's sub before forever kills the game for good
>>584570904she died because she used her body as a conduit for the light retardo
>>584570394It's impossible to make a non retarded version of an afterlife in art. They should never have let us visit it. They should have simply made the invasion of Azeroth by J'lor's forces the central theme. They could have introduced the leaders of the Covenants who would come to our aid in Azeroth. It could also have been an opportunity to revamp the entire Death related regions/characters/ bestiary (bestiarium vocabulum) on Azeroth
Since when this is Rexxar's pet? I only knew of his bear
>>584565064This allows to mod sex into the game. pservers won.
>>584571714It was one of the pets he could summon in WC3, in TBC it got added and named Huffer and then it became an infamously strong card for hunter in early Hearthstone
>>584571803Let's be honest, he was a "literally who" for 99% of the playerbase.
>>584571154But she's a paladin who does that all the time
>>584571714wc3
>>584571943bullshit
>>584571154Again, shit trope that has never once been done in a way that affected someone with above teenage emotional IQ. As you can see by even the most uninterested in lore normies that play just to raid and maze for a total of 5 hours a week shitting on this writing.
>>584571803>>584571943I still don't know who
>>584572073>Mfw when portal panties activate
>>584572104the guy that yells at you during the trial of the crusader/champion and killsteals the Lich King
Oh look they added the rexxar mog to the store
>Lady Liadrin Inspired Mog Reddit WoW is trashing 12.1.5. And it's sometimes pretty funny. But it's really sad for blizzard and for Liadrin, who wanted to make her an emotional pillar of Midnight. Now she's nothing more than a meme that everyone makes fun of.
>>584571714His WC3 version could summon the pig and a stampede of thunder lizards as abilities, but Misha(the bear) was his only "companion". TBC named the boar and gave him a Wyvern too.
>AUGHHHHH I USED TOO MUCH LIGHT *dies*>actually you can get over the corruptive madness of the void by doing breathing exercisesmidnight.... kino...................................
>>584553294reminder that this is literally why they want to reset the game after TLT, the code is so fucked and buggy they desperately need to reset it and move onto a new platform
>>584571943Based and true.
I found dh nelfie album !!!https://catbox.moe/c/84g6yh
>>584572619>>584571909Well... Today I learned something.
>>584572821How fucking big is this album
>>584572474stop
>>584573579I hope we have a kino cutscene in 12.1.7 where all the leaders of the Horde and the Alliance attend her funeral and the unveiling of a park in her honor in Silvermoon.
found these cleaning out my bankat some point its just contempt and disdain for the people who dare to call you out when you release buggy broken slop
>>584574234Was hoping the truce between Amani and Elves would be immediately null and void (heh) since she was really the only one holding it up. But the next quest they did le epic best friend handshake and looked directly into the camera and winked at me, the player, then started sucking each other off
mick is trying too hard
time to cheese these on my rogue
https://youtu.be/1qe2lxBfyg4OH NO NO NO NO
>>584575657>people deleting retailOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/world-of-warcraft-champion-of-the-wilds-packOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584575940is this the fifth shop bundle since blizzcon?
>>584576135who knows, there has been so many it's beyond ridiculous
>RS3 unfucking itself>Retail WoW becoming RS3
>>584566408lul I wonder what Metzen was doing during all of this? probably filing applications for his new company
12.1.7 ptr is on the launcher, dunno if it's up or not since don't test
>>584576860don't worry blizzard doesn't test either, ptr only exists to see bosses early and build routes for week1 title cheese
>>584574338they seriously need to axe some heads or do some actual fucking leading of some kind at that company, i'm am so utterly exhausted with lazy Californians making shitty products then taking to twitter to gaslight
>>584576268It's too late for RS3, Albion already killed it and RS4's combat is so much better that you're better off just waiting
>Each patch releasing with endless amount of bugs>Blizzcon was a shitshow>Player enjoyment at a all time low>New shop mog releases bugged>People complaining about the state of the narrative so much it's getting news articlesSo when is Asha firing Holly?
>>584577723>>Blizzcon was a shitshowuhexcuse me?that was the best blizzcon since 2018
>>584577723Agreed, Blizzard had Microsoft as their support but they proved that even money cannot save WoW at this point.Game is forever lost to trannies and their terrible writing as long as this game and company exists.There's nothing you can do about it.
>>584578051If you're a retail WoW player Blizzcon 2026 was announcing an execution sentence for the game
>>584578051>that was the best blizzcon since 2018says who
>>584576135>>584576207the only people playing midnight for the next year or so will be m+ mazers and schizophrenic blood elf fags mad forever doesn't have their favorite kind of barbiedoll elf so they need to stock on money
>>584578356>>584578438idgaf about wow
Really wanna play forever but don't wanna have to level engy on every character that I might ever want to pvp on
>shadowstep in labyrinth>fall through the map
>>584578836lulz
>>584578836shadowstep is bugged since its inception just like fle rush
>new mog set in store>its broken>they remove it from the shopbravo
>>584579116they ran out of claude tokens
The priests are collaborating. They are terrorizing logs intentionally by PIing the same person
>>584579116Looks like a feature for me
>>584579116Take off all the 3d shit and you'd have a decent catsuit mog at least.
Are there any addons that make the buff tracker collapse so there's not huge gaps between active buffs? Blizzards ui is gay and ponies
>>584579116GRIM
>>584578836What the fuck, the labyrinth is floating above Silverpine?
>>584575031>just move the rocks you knuckle dragging troglodytes
MIDnight is...a filler expansion...
has Valeera been nerfed?my max-level Valeera tank used to take only 1% of her health bar of damage; now she's practically dead in every encounter?!
>>584580278but i don't want to talk to robot dreads doc ock again
>>584579116>buy the pig>the pig is brokenIs there any hope left
>>584580390Yeah, her damage resistance has been nerfed into the ground because of the new nemesis fight.
>>584580474
>>584580390Apparently she's hitting herself with her own abilities according to some.Midnight is so bad she's literally killing herself.
>>584580678well, shit
you guys thing xal'atath will turn around and be friendly because there is an even bigger threat looming on the horizon?
tank spec in delves is a meme
>>584580390
>>584579702>we will never get proper gooner mogs because of woke 1*sighs*
>>584580903hey, it worked for me until nowshe got me through the whole season!
>>584580390Tell her to put armor on her thighs so her femoral arteries don't get cut
>>584580893playing blood dk in delves feels like cheating desu
>almost one-shot Kindo'jan on my first attempt and nearly got every achievement at once, but completely missed the akilzon queue and got blown off stageFUCK
Miss me yet?
>>584581165just death advance it lil brooh waitnaw but that sucks man. happened to me as well DESU lol
i miss her
>>584581461>queer of the dragons
I guess they're just done with these huh?
>Next patch sends us back to Dornogal but with AratorLITERAL FILLER EXPANSION HAHAAHH
is it possible to get <Savior of Azeroth> title still?
>>584580474keep boughting/buyeing
>>584581461>logging out under her enormous dragon ass
>>584581461Looks like a troon
>an entire expansion just to build up a single characterFucking prophetic
>>584582403you have wuk derangement syndrome, she is nothing like Arator and was left behind in her expansion, not brought along to the next one
>>584582552Arator wasn't a thing in TWW yet tho
>>584582772Arator has been around since TBC.
heh rogue kino tech
>>584566382>prime agefor a fucking beatinguseless fucking cunt
>>584578663basedliterally the only decent game blizzard has ever madediablo grandpas don't @ me, just go to bed
>>584582403>Blizzard: "Hold my beer..."
>>584580846>posts nyx (based) from hades>talks about troonyteeth or whatever her name isgrim
>>584582883yeah, as a background NPC on the same relevancy tier as Vindicator Boros with a completely different personality and backstorynu-Arator is a completely retconned Midnight thing
>>584583138starcraft brood war
Was Metzen a fraud all along?
>>584583545>Was Metzen a fraud all along?he always washe literally turned the horde into a bunch of dindus so he could self insert as a green nigger because he's a cuck
>>584583545guy who got fired in march 2023
>>584583545Always wasOther men from the old guard did the hard job he was just the face
>>584583545
>>584583725
>>584583545>players clinging on their final hope that Metzen will fix everything>guy with knowledge and inside info crush these dreams completely
>>584575657
>>584583826>t.metzen simpDon't worry I bet the next expansion will totally be le metzen kino
>>584583545he made green jesus of course he was a fraud all along
metzen kino soon...yeah...you're all gonna be sorry...*snort*
>>584583947>players clinging on their final hope that Metzen will fix everythingthat's because most people didn't knew he was retarded but after the saga and the "warcraft was a mistake" interview people finally understood he was full of shit and skyborne are just the cherry on top
>>584579116>they took it downlmao rip store set?
>>584584438well they have to fix it
>>584583545Maybe not a fraud but he's 100% responsible for this disastrous saga. Everything screams Metzen
>Danuser's plan for TWW was actually decentPoor guy was misunderstood
>>584584438Yo just don't fix stuff in retail WoW the council has to have 3 meetings about it and then meetings about the meetings then they have a vote to see if there is any problems with cultural , lewdness', lgbt representation.
What's Mick's endgame?
Still would
>>584533616About 6 years ago I hoped all devs would be fired.
>>584584816it's funny he doesn't understand that's a problem for the forever players.
> 12.1.7 update>no Housing updateIt's really over housingbros. Let us finish our Home and never touch it again
>>584584835why are Forever players so obsessed with the "Journey" when 99% of the game will be played at level 60, especially since they're not increasing the level cap?
>>584585086>Chinese characters in other mmo>>584584835>Chinese characters in our mmo
>>584585086worked for guild wars
Would you still try to play WoW if you lost a hand?
>>584585086altoholics that have anxiety about running endgame content and just like getting the level up ding a lot(but not TOO much)
>>584572821holy BAAAAAAAAASED>Goblin with her on a leashliterally me
>>584585086You missed the interviews, horizontal progression ended up being the meme it was thought to be. They already said each raid will increase ilvl and there will be “soft resets” ie (lvl cap increases).
>>584586071why is nobody talking about this? Wasn't the whole point of Forever to have horizontal progression?
>>584586189Yes, and now the devs are literally saying Retail 2: Lite Edition for people who suck at retail.
>>584585848I used to run raids with a Priest who lost his hand while in the military. He figured out a way to make it work and he was a great healer.
>>584585848I was on a team that came 3rd in the first roosterteeth griffball competition alongside a guy who had one hand.It seems like the loss of a hand doesn't slow some people down
>>584586295I raided with a tank that had both hands deformed that the fingers wouldnt work, so he had to kind of mash his hands, and we got CE in that guild, you wouldnt know he had that problem till he told you.
>>584586189because the fag from forever team basically said they don't know shit about what they are gonna do in the future, both vertical and horizontal are on the table as of now
>>584586638how do private servers end up having more of a plan than a multi billion dollar companyboggles the mind
>>584586189Forever General got mindbroken for days by someone asking "what's the incentive for running new raids in 'horizontal progression' if there's no ilvl increases" and their only response was melting down that "ilvl doesn't exist in classic!" I imagine they're on suicide watch now.
>>584586836That was me. Im that guy continually asking about horizontal progression and I knew the answer ofc and now i have it finally from their lips. These guys are flying by the seat of their pants spewing hopium they all bought and now theyre clueless as to what the game will look like in the longterm other than Retail 2: Lite. Yes its upsetting to me because this just messes with retail which is all I care about.
>>584586836>>584587065the classic players are also not talking about the original destroyer of horizontal progression, better set bonuses each new raid.
bro why they nerfed my valeeradelves fucking suck nowshe dies to like 3 hits
>>584588067make her dps
>>584588027f that, the original destroyer is BOREDOM!Every game that tries this in the past has to do a “reset” no matter what, theres many examples but gw comes to mind. They had to make 2, then 3… eventually 4 to soft reset AGAIN. Retail WoW is upfront with everybody, each current tier is where you get gear and an expansion lvl increase every 1.5-2 years, as God intended.
>>584588120Doesn't matter if she's DPS, she's still going down
>>584588605Heal her lil bro! Dont you love ur delve gf?
>>584583545this is a total myth, Metzen's involvement is nothing more than them saying in interviews they talked to him for a couple hours, he signed something that says he's technically there while in reality he isn't involved at all and absolutely nothing in their promotional material indicates he is other than one thing that got made months and months ago where he's sitting on a chair babbling trying to hype people up for the next product, he's just paid for appearances
>>584584816>sweats farm BiS because of level cap>game is easymost players will have their questing blues and greens for a dozen levels before swapping it and ironically all the new dungeons have been harder than the vanilla ones
>>584586189Horizontal progression has always been a meme, the games people point to it for examples are either dying games or games with vertical progression that is just very gradual and slow
>>584583545>>584583947>they blamed Danuser for TWW and Midnight shitshowA P O L O G I Z E
Do draenei have long lives or is someone like Velen (20k+ years) just special
they gonna kill her, bros...
>>584589252Come here little Alex :) We wont hurt you!>*camera shows knife being held behind their back*t.Blizzard
>>584583725Orcs are not sub-saharan Africans and never were, they're Pagan Vikings the closest thing to a nigger in Warcraft is a Trogg or Quilboar
>>584589252>"Oh you thought we won't kill females huh?"
>>584589538>No they're real aryans that's why they live in the desert and get zugged by demons
>>584589538Not at all! Savage humanoids from an alien world that had to be that way or they themselves would be killed.
>>584589538Orcs have a lot of steppe rider cultural influences too
>>584585848>start using 1 button rotation>finally learn how to keybind interact with objectI'd probably play better desu
>>584589252Unless the Orcs put a Horde womb tattoo back on her during the events of WC2, they ain't gonna kill her, cause she ain't Horde.
>>584589252I cant wait till Xal snuffs her to steal her body or whatever
Make a dracthyr thread for ‘Thyr Thursday
>>584590128Why are you trans?
>>584589538>this cope againhow many times do you need to be btfo niggerlover
I love it
>>584590014gas yourself tranny
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-mounts-datamined-in-patch-12-1-7-winterrrgls-pine-powered-candy-cane-383443>nothing but recolorsI SLEEP
>>584590402You can't unrape that Dragon blue-boy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584590628I awake
>Talebound is just a bunch of reused Shadowlands assetsIt's over.
>>584590758That's a recolor of the mage tower mount
>>584590857I want it. I want my recolor mount.
>>584590814It's probably all those drust raid assets from sneedolands
>>584590758>>584590924Look at this complete loser
>the council held an emergency meeting last week >they blamed Danuser for the entire TWW and Midnight shitshow>the forced "we fixed the story" copeththe recycled plot threads that somehow still feel like Shadowlands leftovers> they said Danuser's design philosophy is still haunting the writers room even after he left to the microsoft higher ups>one of them allegedly said "we keep trying to course correct but the foundations he laid just keep collapsing under us>another one muttered something about "the Jailer of bad narrative decisions still holds the strings"
>>584591147>A cosmos divided will not survive... What is to come...
>>584591342I unironically want him back bros…Im not sure what he was entirely trying to do but he looked cool and had a good voice!
>>584588067you need to protect her
>>584591968>>584591968>>584591968New, move when ready
>tfw We are actually still stuck in Nzoth and everything after bfa is the nightmare
>>584590654eat my ass retard
>>584585848I play one handed all the time. Now if I lost two hands I'd get a gf.
>>584588754Megaman showed how it is done 40 fucking years ago. Devs are afraid to do basic elemental affinities because they need to be original donut steal trailblazers instead of using what works.
>>584520227why is he so obsessed with transgenders
