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Previous Thread >>584483778
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First for add Drakthyr females
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world of warcraft
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>>584528401
whats crazy is that I look like that
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Either they add Draenei or I'm crashing Forever with no survivors.
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>>584528447
Dracthyr don’t make sense when the Primal Incarnates aren’t canon in Forever.
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BLORCS
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why is he forcing me to install restedxp?
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Give mages water elementals
Let druids summon ravens
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I just want to respect the earthmother, protect my village, lift heavy totems, and train my axe skills.
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>>584528580
Ice Lance instead of Water Elemental is the gayest fucking thing, in my opinion.
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>>584528580
Summoner druids are too kino for the average WoW player to handle
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I don't wanna play hunter because I know its gonna be overpopulated. Which is particularly bad for a DPS class.
But I literally can't stop thinking about knots. Not sure what to do.
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>>584528717
Bro, your Force of Nature?
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>>584528401
>>584528447
>>584528497
>>584528520
>>584528531
RETOILETS ARE ETERNALLY SEETHING
COMPLETE AND TOTAL MIND RAPE
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>>584528697
they have stated multiple times that their goal with forever is to draw new and old players with the mantra "easy to learn, easy to master". Water elemental skill ceiling is too high for new players so it fell out of consideration
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>>584528401
Do you work nights? Are you a morning person?

<Daybreak Company> is casual raiding guild that will be formed on launch day. We are currently recruiting for a core 20m raid group that will be ready to raid once raids open in December.
>NA-RP / Alliance
>Raid times will be 530-830am CST Saturday (20m) and Sunday (10m)
>SR loot, no loot council/DKP corruption
>Meta builds, consumables, world buffs not required
>New guild, blank slate
>Tabard will be created day 1

I'm not very active in the beta but I'll post this intermittently up to launch day.
https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X
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>>584528717
I can’t believe they let hunters have the summon animals and roll along with a blob of animals shit but not druids. Why do they keep making hunters into magical nature people when they already have a fucking class for that
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>>584528787
No old player is coming back with skyborne in the game lol
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>>584528520
With their population so low do you think the Draenei have a "just get pregnant and nobody asks questions" policy
Shinzo Abe repopulation levels of casual sex
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>>584528787
Just make it a raw DPS cooldown, no frost nova.
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>>584528757
As always: Play what you like. Its that simple. I always liked mage, so I will roll a mage.

Never roll a class because other people told you to do so.
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What are some techniques I can use to convince people I'm a girl while playing priest?
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was warcraft lore ever good?
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>>584528941
Download a voice changer program, join discords, get free loot.
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>>584528851
Is telling your animals to fucking dog pile some guy "magical nature"
That just seems like the hunter is pointing and shouting and animals attack
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>>584528767
Is just a fraction of the true potential of a summoner druid.
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Who actually wanted Goblins or Blood elves or Dranei. Not me thats for sure. I love Sky Blelves and retail skeletons and all that jazz FOREVER. I love that they dont plan to add any of the races we all not wanted for a whole year of Forever. Above all i love Blizzard the mots intouch with the community company out there. I love all of you anons too. I am a loverboy FOREVER HYYYYYPE
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>>584528697
Sorry its gonna lead to homogenization because hunters and warlocks have pets
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>>584529007
isn’t the hunter spell to basically materialize (“call”) wild animals from nowhere to attack? It’s not their trained pet. To me that should be a Druid thing
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>>584529004
What are some good ones, preferably cheap? I imagine the tech is much better now because it was very easy to detect 10 years ago.
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>>584528520
Just join the 41% already.
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>>584528974
Lore, yes. Stupid and goofy in some places, but enjoyable.
Story, meh? WoW story after WC3 suffers from having to fit into an MMO world rather than an RTS game.
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Crazy idea, I know. Playable Satyrs on the Horde side. Adapt the Draenei rig, give them the magic addict role Blood Elves had. Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Warlock, maybe Hunter too.
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>>584528974
only in the original strategy games
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>>584529090
man there’s more than one way to handle a pet class that doesn’t tread on warlock or hunter
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NO

RETAIL

RACES

IN

WOW

FOREVER!

YOU LOST, TRANNY NIGGERS!!!
SEETHE COPE DILATE
YWNBAW
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im not having fun with forever i think im going to go back to retail
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>>584529094
Maybe I'm thinking of the retail ability where all your trained pets bumrush someone
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>>584529163
warlocks are barely a pet class themselves, they are so poorly implemented
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>>584529098
That I don't know. I used to use Voicemod for GTA RP myself but never thought it was that convincing, and there's probably way better stuff out there now with AI.
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I wish there was a second physical ranged DPS option
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>>584529085
this. recolored retail races are so much better. it shows they care because it's new content.
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>>584528814
>RP
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>>584529186
I already won because I can make a cute blue skelfy druid <3
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>>584529186
>take retail race
>make a skin with hue shifted towards some stupid color
>call it something else
Now what, big guy?
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>>584529310
Skypera!
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>>584529259
They made Survival melee, they should have made one of the Rogue specs ranged focused.
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>>584528531
They can just make it up like they made up Skelves
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There's still blizzard marketing shills in the thread
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>584529310
This.
>Taken worgen
>Make them black
>Flip their name
>Put back in game
Think Blizz will do it?
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>>584529259
BEHOLD ... but in a different game
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>>584529402
Deadly throw is such a fucking tease of a talent
Does rogue really need 3 specs that are all basically the same
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>>584529445
Tinker would work so well for this
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>>584529186
>We have no plans to add races that actually existed in the world of Classic WoW but were not playable; instead we are going to invent a new high elf subspecies that never existed in Classic WoW and looks like it belongs in Bastion from Shadowlands
Woah...
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>>584529259
Believe in the Tinker
Or some gay spell-gun class or something
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>>584529130
41% of the Forever playerbase will be made up of female Draenei
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>>584529496
isn't there a ranged rogue in retail? or maybe was, i can't remember.
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>>584529259
Throwing weapon warrior based off Troll Headhunters Axe Throwers and Berserkers
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>>584529528
Reminder that it’s Metzens fault
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>>584528903
Its not about what other people tell me.
It's about rolling a dps class and having huge competition when it comes to groups and gear.
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>3 weeks until launch
>sharting is still in the game
>when I zone out of a capital half of the playerbase suddenly disappears
DoA
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>>584529259
Isn’t there a guy in Cata SFK that fights with dual pistols?
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>>584529557
No. They have some ranged spells but they are still melee
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>>584529557
No, retail didn't add a single ranged spec until the gay dragons like 10 expacs in. In fact they removed one when they made Survival in melee in Legion or whenever they did that.
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>>584529414
don't be such a coward, point at them
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>>584529414
where is the slop poster when you need him...
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>>584529557
No it just uses melee guns with pirate theming and bullshit retail magic rogue shit
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>>584529635
Yes
Retail rogues also have pistols but only for like three spells, but one of them is a reworked Killing Spree that now just shoots a lot
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>>584529635
yeah there's an undead gun wizard
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>>584529635
That guy killed Sylvanas but she got better
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>>584529672
Damn. GoonWithMe going places.
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Priestsisters, how's the class playing? How you feeling?
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post more goats in memory of goats
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>>584529750
She was already dead
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>"M-Mr Metzen c-can i p-please add the races the p-players actually w-want?"
*SMACK*
*WHAM*
You add what i tell you to add BITCHggrend.
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>>584528814
how do you raid while roleplaying
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Do you think they’ll add more iconic abilities later on like starfall, shadowstep, bladestorm, VT, water elemental, etc.?
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what color and name should the forever version be?
maybe some water or tree theme?
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>>584529794
memory?
they'll be here in under a year
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>>584529906
Same way you dungeon while roleplaying.
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>>584529914
Yeah if you can get streamers to tweet at them about it they’ll do anything because that’s what their balance changes are based on
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>>584529914
>shadowstep
I wish, they won't even add envenom, we get the cuck version instead
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How is /ourguy/ Samwise? Is he safe? Is he alright?
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>>584529968
how about
a sex theme?
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>>584528892
With many being thousands of years old and judging by their flirt lines, they probably aren't subtle or ashamed about sex at all. No need to ask questions because everyone will hear them.
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Tranny propaganda leaking from their prolapsed anuses
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>>584530010
dead
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>>584529968
Make them furless, and give them brown or black skin only.
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Hunter has
>serpent sting uptime
>2 hawks uptime + arcane shot
>raptor strike CD
>strider kick CD
>aimed shot CD
>trap CD
>mongoose bite RNG proc
Does any other class have this much sovl?
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>>584530003
I think they might be saving it for Warden. same with fan of knives and cloak since it’s supposed to have a tank spec
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>>584529914
we haven't seen higher level content or items yet, and there has been teasing about things changing how your class plays, so either they are doing Diablo-like items (i.e. "Equip: Your Holy Strike is replaced by Divine Storm.") or reusing SoD engravings later, something like that
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Summon raven
Summon insect swarm
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>>584529186
>troons out of nowhere
rent free
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How'd that content patch in retail turnout
All five minutes of content they gave you
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Make sure to stop by reddit and say, THANK YOU
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>>584530240
>retoilet
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>>584530240
Nobody here has any idea whats happening in retailshit. You're talking to yourself
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Troons pretending they aren't shitting up the general with their propaganda, ick
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My first instinct when i see a female Dranei is to go down on her. Am i alone in this bros? The
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Imagine pretending to not be from the retail general when you're spamming the same exact images posted there
I know you're mentally retarded manchildren, but come on
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>>584530314
This race doesn't exist in forever and never will. Go back to wowg
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so close to greatness
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>>584530406
they should have just removed forsaken instead
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You paid or are going to pay thirty extra dollars for bad racials LOL
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>>584530360
You seem to know a lot about retail generals maybe you should go back
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>>584529914
if they add shadowstep i will make a rogue and spent my time ganking lvl 20s in hillsbrad as 60
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>>584530406
BLELFS
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>>584530174
melee weaving is not worth it because you wont have time to move in and out thanks to them making the CDs so short
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>>584528974
warcraft 3 is pretty good 1 and 2 are meh
wow on alliance side is good for the onyxia stuff which goes all the way from lvl 1 to 60
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>>584530478
>bad racials
After all the nonstop crying and whining those things are going to be homogenized anyway
They barely matter right now, they won't matter at all by 2027
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Wows writing is trash now because they hired too many women gays and troons.
If you got rid of all of them and had only straight white males even though they're leftie freaks, the writing and game quality would go up 5x
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stop projecting
stop seething
stop stalking
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>>584530610
they have those and they worked on the wc3 dlc and it was the best written story blizzard has done since wotlk
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I hate hunters so much, they have mindbroken me. I want to be a dedicated hunter rapist
mage?
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>>584530554
I think the actual limiting factor is mana. And it's probably range weaving now, huntards have the best dual wield talent.
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>>584530667
Not many left around anymore
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>>584530695
warlock
pet fights
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>>584530667
wotlk had shit story
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>want to play Druid
>tauren druids are second fiddle
>male night elf is correct lorewise but their animations suck and everyone will make fun of me for being male
>female night elf is gay and lore wrong but looks better
>skelf is cancer
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I want to be raped by female draenei or female nelfs and groomed into a loving relationship
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>>584530804
sounds homosexual in nature
did your mother take thalidomide when she was pregnant
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What's an assassin rogues levelling build like? My blue elf (female) thirsts for goblin blood
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>>584530774
>everyone will make fun of me for being male
What, is everyone on alliance a fucking tranny?
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>>584529094
>isn’t the hunter spell to basically materialize (“call”) wild animals from nowhere to attack? It’s not their trained pet.
some of the retail abilities summon a wild animal, some summon a random animal from your stables
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Should I be playing melee Hunter instead of Rogue? It seems ludo, and OP I guess
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>>584530550
>sea elves instead of naga
I would be so pissed.
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>>584530929
Devs have said rogues are supposed to be the top of the dps charts, so if you want to go melee, go rogue or get the FUCK out of the raid faggot.
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>>584530929
right now melee hunter is higher dps. but who knows what changes will happen.
i mean they said they wanted rogue to compete for top single target dps. surely they're getting something?
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>>584530550
Blanu Blelore Blela'na!
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>>584530750
there's no way, you're THE least mobile class up against the 2nd most mobile, your dots don't daze in cheetah, a good hunter can keep you completely out of range of all your spells
also fear won't work on a bm hunter's pet
at least mage has a fighting chance with blink and nova
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>>584529186
> OGRE STOCKS UP
> NAGA STOCKS UP
> ETTHEREAL STOCKS UP

GET FUCKED FURRY LOVERS
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>>584530179
I should roll Warden, FoK is such a fun spell. I love the times when FoK generates an assload of combo points on multiple targets and lets you funnel single target finishers. Warden is so specific to Nelf though, would they make Shadow Hunter a re-themed Horde equivalent? If not which Horde races would be appropriate as Wardens?
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>>584531041
Skyborne.
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>>584531035
read the wow diary by john staats and you will see naga are never becoming a playable race
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>>584530761
name good story
>inb4 all shit
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>>584530831
I got that reference
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>>584531109
run that by me anon and dont tell me just because they wouldnt be able to use mounts
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>>584531035
recolored vulpera stocks are up a lot more
they're not going to add a race they need to add new animations to
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>>584530478
Nah I got beta access from the Maccas promo. Skelves are very unappealing and retail coded to me, their gay customisation options remind me of the homo dragon human forms. I'm glad Blizz were shameful enough to give them mediocre racials at the very least
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>Lay on Hands is now a 20min c/d
>Reincarnation is still an hour and gives you barely any hp/mana still
Faggrend all over
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You know what we need?
More nelfs and draenei girls getting knotted
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>>584531215
by skelf druid girls
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>>584530980
>Devs have said rogues are supposed to be the top of the dps charts
They didn't say that though. Is this just ESL stuff or what? They said Rogues SHOULD be top dps for STATIONARY, SINGLE TARGET encounters. If you're not prepared with consumes and/or shit you won't be top dps even in that specific scenario.
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>>584531182
I hope skelves are just an obvious retailer accommodation and see no representation at all in the game and their island is irrelevant and they’re just a ghetto race
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>>584531168
> they're not going to add a race they need to add new animations to

i look forward to your apology when ogres come out
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>>584530834
It looks a lot like a combat rogue levelling build because levelling ass is bad. There aren't enough good, easily attainable daggers compared to the trillion sword options.
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>>584530980
>Devs have said rogues are supposed to be the top of the dps charts
they did not say that you fucking retard
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>>584531269
>>584531335
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/rogues-will-have-the-highest-single-target-damage-in-wow-forever-383209
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>>584531159
all of the game's gear would have to be remade to fit them, specifically shoes and pants are a complete no go
it's possible after 20 years they could change their mind and allow no visible pants (and capes? helmets?) but it was a pretty set in stone decision by the team
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>>584531302
If they ever do Ogres then they'll use the Kul'Tiran rig and animations. No way they do more than the absolute minimum bespoke work on a race that virtually no one will play.
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>>584531159
>dont tell me just because they wouldnt be able to use mounts
that's the answer though
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>>584531369
>jeet can't read
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>>584531034
nah your pet fights their pet
dont be a fag
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wow-forever-has-a-streamer-problem/

....our response?
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>>584531483
I want to be a hunter rapist anon, I don't have time for your GAMES
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>>584531517
AI written article
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>>584531417
Isn't that also true of the fagdragons from the fagdragon expansion? They can't wear a bunch of gear other races can so they're just nude in those slots aren't they?
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>>584531369
>https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/rogues-will-have-the-highest-single-target-damage-in-wow-forever-383209
The internet is done for. Most of the people we are engaging with a third worlders with no English comprehension. It's over.
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>>584530314
The smell of knotslop attracting you
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>>584531517
I didn't even know gamespot still existed
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>>584531109
>>584531417
It doesn't seem THAT insurmountable.
>spikes get in the way
Give the player model fewer spikes and/or shrink them enough that could be plausibly squished down by clothing.
>no pants/feet
Turn the pants into a crotchflap. Turn the boots into a tail ring.
>mounts
Sling their tail to one side, same way women in dresses could ride horses.
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>>584531417
Surely they are just textures so all you have to do is map the textures on a naga model. Make the pants be some kind of loincloth and shoes can be something they have hanging off a belt as some kind of trinket
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>>584529971
Better ask what sort of twist they come up with.
No way they will leave a perfectly fine rig with HD and SD models unused.
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just make a community rule set for all the streamers and youtubers and ban anyone who makes content from any other realm
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>>584531417
That makes no sense because they didn’t do that for the horse races and shoes. And you act like remaking it would be a lot of work when it’s literally just a generic template for mapping a 2d texture. Especially since we’re just talking legs. Does classic even have a single pair of legs that isn’t just a generic texture colored over the model? I know boots have variety in the 3d modeling but legs are legs and translating them into just a tube texture that wraps around the naga like a bigger belt would be fine

This sounds like hot air like people who think ogre magi having two hands makes the race impossible
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>>584531653
just remove face tentacles from females and add some furr textures and you get satyrs for horde
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big HUGE nerfs coming later today
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>>584531667
This, just have a containment server like Rust or nopixel does where they can jerk each other off making their "content" and leave the rest of the people alone.
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>>584531737
Tauren would not be ok allying with Satyr
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What classes should Ogre get anons?

Also thrown in your wild card class that probably wont happen but would be funny, for me its rogue.
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>>584531806
Tauren are cucks who go along with whatever retarded shit the horde does
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>>584531737
Correct up until the horde part.
Horde got the pretty race with skelves, alliance needs a beastfolks race.
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>>584531806
The satyr are demonic corrupted night elves. They’re just evil. It’s like wanting fel orcs or troggs.
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>>584531623
>>584531702
All leg textures in the game are built to have a middle seam splitting it in two. As someone with experience doing modeling/texturing/UV editing, putting that texture on a single tube would look horrendous
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>>584531829
warrior, shaman, mage, warlock, hunter

priest
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Balkanize the horde and alliance
MORE SEGREGATION
MORE ETHNO NATIONALSIM
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>>584531829
warrior and mage and thats it
we really need more races that have more strict class options
what's the fucking point if everyone can do everything, the god damn nublizzard trying to spin opening more race class options up as if its some long awaited feature when in reality it was a very specific design decision
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>>584531829
Warrior and Mage are obvious. Warlock and Shaman have precedence in lore and WC3. Wildcard pick could be Priest if you want to extrapolate Twilight Hammer stuff.
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>>584531829
warrior, mage
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>>584531829
Paladin, druid, priest and warrior.
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>>584531858
Or Eredar, am I right?
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Join <FUN HAVERS>
ALLIANCE NA PvP? PvE???
https://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w

>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)
>only rule is you must have fun or else
>will raid with fucking whatever / whenever
>ill be running morning weekend raids

>yfw having fun with other fun havers
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>>584531829
warrior, shaman, mage, warlock

are all ogre mages and warlocks two headed?
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>>584531891
You don't have to map that part of the texture on the model
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>>584531967
Because their fan base is a bunch of obnoxious mentally checked out dads. Whenever this question comes up it’s always shit like
>I played back when this game came out but now after twenty years yeah sure let’s have undead druids why not?

I hope I get put down before whatever time bomb in the male brain goes off and turns me into this
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>>584532067
Yeah same as there are only female warriors and male druids in night elf society.
Ingame we already have plenty one headed ogre casters.
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>>584531891
It would look like some of those armors that use pants texture on robe model.
Anywho, naga with snake bottom half of their body is retarded idea anyway as a playable race.
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>>584532129
I was defending the technicalities of naga but I agree. Of the trio lady vashj and her naga was the most evil anyway
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>>584532129
Imagine the goofy jumping and knock down animations.
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>>584532129
I don't understand any calls to make Naga playable. Fucking Furbolgs have a better claim for playability than they do. Ogres barely make the cut, exclusively off the back of Rexxar's campaign.
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>>584532045
>are all ogre mages and warlocks two headed?
yes
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Player ogres would have to be the weakest smallest most pathetic tribe possible right? Similar to dark spear trolls?
You can’t have the massive giant ogres be playable


Also
How does a two headed ogre wear headgear in your mind?
Clone the equipment for both heads?
Or only one head wears the gear and the other has nothing
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>>584532347
Or their racial would be that they have two head slots.
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>>584532347
Closest you'll get is playable half ogres, that way they're smaller and only have 1 head. Blizzard can just size up the orc model a bit and make them orange-ish. They aren't going to do anymore work than that.
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is there any lore for why horde stopping having ogres?
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wheres the new patch?
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I will never stop asking for roided up water snake-men with tridents.
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female anons owe me dates in wow
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>>584532507
they didn't like Thrall as warchief
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>>584532507
Ogres were never in the warcraft 3 horde. The old warcraft 1-2 horde still has ogres, they're the ones in blackrock mountain
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>>584532447
this poster is jewish
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>>584532347
Ogres have a pretty big size range, so that isn't really an issue. Tauren sized Ogres would be fine, there are ogres smaller than Tauren that wouldn't cause issues.
>>584532507
They didn't? Even in retail they got more ogres and gronn from the retarded Mag'har timeline thing.
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>>584532507
Apparently undead made for better allies.
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human male paladin
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what the game really needs is race specific armor variants of everything but they would never do this because of retail
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>>584532587
with your real name
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oh god survival is kino this can't be happening i can't roll hunter
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>>584532587
Sigmar lightens my steps
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>>584532573
Rexxar conscripted the Stonemaul Clan. They're based in Dustwallow Marsh and are allied to the Horde.
>>584532668
>add a bleed capstone talent to survival hunter
>mongoose bite scales with weapon damage
>survival hunter wants to dual wield
>you literally swap to a 2 hander to drop mongoose bite then re-equip your dual wield for maximum DPS
It's time to subscribe to kino anon-chama.
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there BETTER be some juicy changes in the patchnotes when I get back home, enough to ruin the disgusting RMT-fest that is the pvp tourney
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>>584532762
>21 second bleed from an ability that you hit twice within 10 seconds
>it does not stack
amazing
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>>584532829
I wouldn't take it over Hawks + Rapid Fire CD reduction, but depending on calcs you might.
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>>584532762
Would be actually kino to have a spec meant to weapon swap like that and you could see all the weapons sheathed - on the back and on the hips.
I mean, regular hunters with their ranged and melee weapons come to mind, but I guess that would be too hard for them to do.
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>>584532924
surely they will change it or switch it for a new capstone
surely
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>>584531958
Eight faction split!
>Alliance: human, dwarf, gnome, high elf
>Horde: orc, troll, tauren, ogre
>Night Elf: nelf, dryad, furbolg, mini-ancients
>Forsaken: ded human, darkfallen, crypt fiend, worgen
>Illidari: belf, naga, broken, satyr
>Scourge: extra pale humans, san'layn, vrykul, drakkari
>Black Empire: qiraji, mantid, k'thir, belf (the b stands for barefoot)

Good fucking luck getting a group together.
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>>584529186
>Broken
>High Elves
>Goblinborne
>Wolfbound
Just change the colour and make them $30 (plus tip). Microblizz will cave when they see the $$$ they could.
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>>584532945
>two one-handers and a two-hander, which takes your ranged weapon's slot
this would be really fucking cool if you could throw your one handers when using a ranged skill but that would require way too much work for blizzard to do
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I am once again asking for the perfect anti-hunter class and build
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>>584533370
Druid. Hibernate the pet, heal through their damage until they get bored and fuck off.
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>>584532945
>Hunters dreaming about a spec revolving around meleenweapon swap
Your greed disgusts me
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> see roach kings video on retoilet
> they killed off liadrian and had the power of friendship

Holy fuck thank god we have forever and a new timeline, retoilet truly is HR karen game
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>>584532347
just make them tauren sized
>How does a two headed ogre wear headgear in your mind?
I'd probably have one head wear the actual armor and the other just get a little decoration depending on the armor worn (like a headband or circlet or whatever)
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>>584533740
>he thinks forever will be different
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>>584533740
Why is killing the girlboss a bad thing now?
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>>584533816
It was a really stupid death.
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>>584533740
>yfw this was the plan all along, to make forever so they wouldn't lose subs from the chuds getting mad over killing their waifu in the patch
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>>584528757
Don't worry -- rogues are fucking awful, got the least from wotlk-era, and have only received vague assurances about eventually being good at single-target dps. Your hunter can get all the leather and melee weapons that rogues won't be using, because they won't be playing.

Hunters got the most, as an entire class, in terms of abilities, talents, quality of life, and mechanics from wotlk, so this will no doubt be another Aggrend game in which they're completely busted.
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>>584533740
>every man is a low IQ warmonger who either dies and/or sees the foolishness of his ways
>every woman is wise and level-headed leader who teaches the men to be better
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>>584533816
its not just that, its the way they did it and all the fucking karen talking holy shit
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>>584534027
hunters still have a deadzone
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>>584534056
yep, its genuinely pathetic.
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>>584534128
survival hunters will still have the best ranged damage of any melee so in most fights their dmg up time will be almost 100%
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>>584534128
that's good though, it makes them more interesting to play.
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>>584529971
>he thinks this will survive for more than 6 months max
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>>584529186
>announcing our newest race… Sky Goblins!
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>>584533804
good unintentionally poignant post because the pictured anime also initially promised to be different with its apparently sadistic main character but they quickly wrote the entire concept out and just made it generic trash for wide appeal instead
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You know what i wanted from Classic +? NEW FUCKING CLASSES. THATS WHAT BLIZZARD. I WANT TO BE A BADASS TROLL AXE THROWER. I DONT WANT TO BE A BLUE ELF
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What's your favourite class fantasy spell? For me it's shamans far sight and water walking
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>>584534286
wow forever has killed retail and buried it. the hype around it is eclipsing 2019 classic
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>>584529968
YOOOOO SOMEONE CALL A BARISTA
BECAUSE I NEED TO ORDER A PLAPPACHINO FOR DIS VULP SLAVE
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I demand upright Orcs so I can larp as a Blademaster
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>>584531958
Based
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>>584534351
New classes? I hear retail has a lot of those. Or you can just wait for the next CoA to get spun up by some slavmonkey and shut down by BlizzjewGODS four months after that.
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>>584534128
>enter hunters "dead zone"
>immediately crit with a 1k raptor strike
>slowed harder than a warrior hamstring
>stunned for 30 seconds OR set on fire for 1k damage OR perma aoe slowed with a chance to root
oh yeah woe on them, if you enter the hunters dead zone you are guaranteed to be dead
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are you guys enjoying your SoD 2 5000 chatgpt quests edition(tm) beta????
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>>584533740
Listen nigger
The same people writing retail and writing forever new content
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>>584534510
>he entered the melee range instead of the dead zone
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>>584534573
I hope they write a character that tells me it's going to be okay
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>>584534615
forever normalised melee range + leeway > dead zone
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I know a lot of people want pooever to succeed because they want to do something with their time in their lives, but I'm sorry, blizzard will fuck this one up too like they fucked up the last 99 wow reboots they tried to make, no amount of chatgpt generated quests can save this company
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ALEX YOU PEA BRAINED NIGGER

PUT MORE THAN 5 MINUTES OF THOUGHT INTO YOUR FAGGOT VIDEOS


no one gives a FUCK about your shower thoughts
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>>584534437
stealth
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But are there any goon guild in wow forever?
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>20 days until fresh
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Last patch today bros. Will they fix everything?
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>>584530725
let me just get that 20% hit for my offhand to not miss bro it will happen for sure this time it will be a real melee hunter spec trust
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>>584535303
They're going to break everything because they've already announced plans for balance patches for the next 6 months. Don't forget to redeem your gametime cards!
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>>584535303
im so excited to see how they'll fuck it up this time
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>>584535303
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
they broke the bag sorting function yesterday
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>>584535303
>last patch
The patch should be pretty expansive then right?
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>>584535303
Seems more likely they'll just break more shit like minimaps and bags
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>>584535303
they are going to change everything for the launch again and every week there is going to be a patch
impossible to predict anything really, its going to be the wild west
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>>584535303
I hope they nerf all the meta classes for the gay tournament and fix all the bugs streamers were going to abuse
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>>584535585
The only thing they're going to work on from now till launch is adding as many queer gender swaps to quests as they can
They're going to force you to ignore dungeons and if you don't want the faggot brainwashing you have to ignore quests
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>>584535697
Im going to just farm mobs anyways
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>>584535585
Sounds great. I miss the constant patch lottery of a game in active development. I'm really lucky so my class is going to be great.
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>>584534510
freezing trap is 10 seconds nigger
>chance to root
based retard god does not even read the talents of the class he is complaining about
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So after weeks on beta and data mining sites i conclude that Forever is not a Classic or Classic+ at all.
It has changed so much in classes and how game worked that it feels like completely different game, the mix of retail (qol, engine changes, new features), wotlk (ease of leveling) and cata (zone and visual rework)
For whom was this even made. All I see on Twitter and in the game are people already addicted to wow. It's not a WoW For Newcomers at all. But it's not Classic either. So... why?
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>>584536113
This is just SoD but with 30$ price tag for Blue Elves.
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>>584535937
You are completely right to push back on that! Freezing trap really is only a 10 second stun!
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>>584535937
It's 20s (26s talented)
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deport ziqo and his snowbunny gf back to africa
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SKYHIGH QUALITY AT ROCK BOTTOM PRICES!
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>>584535303
blanket nerfs on all horde racials (streamers & devs play alliance), mage/hunter/paladin buffs (streamers & devs play these classes), warlock/druid ignored, warrior/shaman/priest nerfs
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>>584536213
why was SoD 0 fun while Forever is some fun then?
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>>584536213
It's actually a worse version of SoD because they didn't port many of the positive changes over lol they made all those changes, collected all the feedback and threw it all in the garbage
classic blizzard, completely leaderless
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>>584534996
wut happend? He said this time he is very serious about content/schedule, then dropped beta and played dat ugly af indiemmo and today wasnt even online. I mean promises promises
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>>584536449
sod was literally an outlet for the most edge case and retarded ideas blizzard could come up with as an experiment to try find the next SOMETHING for their franchise, which turned out to be forever
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Does the beta really end next week? What are we supposed to do until release then I don't get it
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>>584536113
Actually it's classic+sod*wotlk-retail
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>>584536449
sod was very fun and very successful for 1 or 2 months and forever is going to be the same.
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>>584528776
*plays a game made by the same retail devs*
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>>584536736
it wasn't nearly as successful as Forever is though
I give Forever a year or so
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>>584529904
Literally everyone wanted Blood Elf function though?
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>>584536696
On paper it's supposed to be the quiet before the storm where they can fully focus on last finishing touches and overall preparation for the launch. However it is clear forever is currently completely undercooked.
What it really needs is 3 months of extra beta with the level cap removed so the game can actually be tested
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>>584535568
I don't even undertans how this happens. Why do things break that have been working for decades? Espcecially considering they just copy pasted a working client
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>>584531958
This is the only right answer. Fitting anything into a two Power-Block world has been nothing but devastating for the world (of warcraft).
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>>584536930
probably updated some underlying framework or something and deemed the bugs acceptable for now to keep the train rolling
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>>584531829
Rogue, Monk, Evoker, Demon Hunter
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Is Anger Management worth the 5 wasted points on Improved Tactical Mastery as Prot?
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>>584536841
>What it really needs is 3 months of extra beta with the level cap removed so the game can actually be tested
Yeah let's just have everyone play the beta for 3 months and then quit because they don't want to start all over again when the game actually launches
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>>584537031
>wasted
Probably some of the most useful talent point you can spend. Perhaps not 5. Maybe 3 or 4. Anger management is meh as prot.
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>>584535419
It's been broken since thursday's patch last week.
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>>584537031
It only really exists to switch to battle stance for overpower
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I want to play druid but it’s too popular.
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>>584531967
>warrior and mage and thats it
I agree with your general point about making races feel unique but there are Ogre shamans everywhere. They come from Draenor, where everyone practises Shamanism. There are also warlocks in the same way there are orc warlocks.
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>>584537468
dw Moonfire autoattacking will filter ppl before 20
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>>584537468
lol
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>>584537031
no
nothing you stance dance as prot requires much rage
intercept, mocking blow, berserkers rage, you get 10 or 15 rage saved base line
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>>584532507
horde literally have ogres in vanilla - the Stonemauls. They just aren't playable.
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>>584537063
Just let us keep progress then
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>>584537468
Dungeon finder will fix this
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Luckily you don't have to fight lunaclaw as a druid, just talk to the ghost
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>>584537031
I just imagined a Cat walking by my House with a cape and dracula teeth and saying "Dracuwa!" and putting his arms out. Then I come to the thread and see this.
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>>584537707
but the ghost spawns after it dies
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>>584537641
Then it's not a beta, it's early access
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cant decide if i want to play druid or shaman on launch
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>>584536841
That's the classic experience
Did you already forget about blizz overhauling every class in vanilla after release?
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>>584538257
>every class
*coughs in shaman*
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>>584538086
was the cats name Jimmy?
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>>584538245
play druid
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>>584538245
go fem nelfie druid if ur alliance, your AGP wont allow you to play dwarf
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>>584538286
I don't think so. I do not get the reference /v/ro.
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>>584538236
I don't care what you call it I just want to play now and keep my shit
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>>584538257
you would imagine they managed to learn anything after having had the series live for over two decades
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>>584538086
Did it have a megaphone?
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>>584538343
I'm not a tranny, im a real woman
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>>584538343
I'll go Skelf because i paid $90 for it, so I may as well use it.
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>>584538432
No, just a Dracula costume with vampire teeth and cape.
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is we finna pay some chinese guy to skip the boingass 1-55 grind for us???
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>>584538437
Play shaman bro. I found it more fun in beta
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>>584538245
shaman is poggers
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>>584538481
Damn straight homie! Fuck this whipepo grind!
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The person I want to play WoWever with;

Tall Red Haired Woman with pale skin, fweckles, prominent front teeth, and prominent clavicle.

We can level Elves together...
and have double complementary professions...
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creepy cringe spam appears
that means a rotting tranny axewound has entered the general
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>>584538678
yeah
you
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>>584538573
>and have double complementary professions...
That's actually a fun challenge idea, you can only use what your partner finds and vice versa.
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>>584538481
you understand that the journey is a big part of the fun right?
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>>584538360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4USJ2U8uy8
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>curse of tongues are mind numbing poison make your GCD 2.5 seconds instead if your just your spell cast speed

how did blizzard manage to fuck this up on the beta
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>>584538773
that anon is a retard
but you do understand that for some, the journey is running dungeons with their pals right?
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>>584538826
Lol never saw this. Good find.
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>>584538773
you understand that 10 new quest chains isn't enough to make the same leveling experience I've done dozens of times any more fun this time right?
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>>584538361
too bad
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>>584538773
but what if.... what if everyone has done the journey dozens of times over, and we're all just racing to the end game stuff while ignoring the social aspect and any kind of situation that might be deemed an XP loss?
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Stress-test will be perfect for setting up my addons and UI before launch day
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>reeee fuck the journey I don't want to do quests again
You do know you don't have to play the game, right? You could just play another mobile gacha instead
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>>584538481
>sites already offering forever leveling from 1-60 for 250 USD
Thought it was much more expensive when I last checked it around classic era.
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>>584539008
I'm curious if us betards will have to install it separate or not.
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>>584539067
Stress-test folder is named forever
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>>584538826
I was imagining a black cat, but this is a very cute video.
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>>584539052
probably got decent AI levelling that shit now. No need to have chang sitting at the computer 24/7
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no you
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>>584538773
>the journey
>someone starts talking at a campfire?
>/ignore
>someone is grinding the same quest mobs as you?
>/ignore
>someone is moving parallel to you in the same direction?
>/ignore
simple as
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What was 2004 /wowg/ like?
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>>584539261
Full of human garbage, same as today.
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am i insane or does the sun rise and set on the same coast
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>>584539067
well when you go to it does say install or does it say play. with no beta, my install was only 30-40gb, so I'm wondering if they managed to curtail some of that retail bloat or if it's just a truncated version of the beta client.
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>>584539330
west coast is hella best coast
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Do you work nights? Are you a morning person?

<Daybreak Company> is casual raiding guild that will be formed on launch day. We are currently recruiting for a core 20m raid group that will be ready to raid once raids open in December.
>NA-RP / Alliance
>Raid times will be 530-830am CST Saturday (20m) and Sunday (10m)
>SR loot, no loot council/DKP corruption
>Meta builds, consumables, world buffs not required
>New guild, blank slate
>Tabard will be created day 1

I'm not very active in the beta but I'll post this intermittently up to launch day.
https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X
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>>584539364
(((puke)))
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>>584539261
it didn't exist until some time in MoP
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>>584539261
basically the same except the porn came in low res gifs
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>>584539384
>5am on a saturday and sunday
even people that work at night sleep in on their days off
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>>584539364
>>
WoW: Night Elf Male Druid

Everquest: Wood Elf Male Druid

Dark Age of Camelot: Elf Male Mentalist
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>>584539142
this is great, no need to copy paste any folders for launch
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still torn do I want:
-mage for aoe farming
-warlock for solo dungeon farm
-play a tank for easy comfy dungeon groups
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>>584539515
Monsters and memories??
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>>584539545
Anon-chan told me aoe farming got nerfed?
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>>584538773
journeyfags are the minority
The majority of players are braindamaged and all they want is get to 60 and get their bis to "complete" their character, it satisfies their autism
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>>584539515
>Mental
checks out.
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>>584539545
a tank can do all 3 of those things in forever
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ngl im proly going to get bored after a week at lvl 60 and uninstall
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man, FUCK skelves
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>>584539261
it was #worldofwarcraft in Quakenet
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>>584539608
what can i do to convince you to do that last thing much earlier
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>>584539545
geared tanks can pull 10+ mobs and solo elites
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>>584539545
prot is probably better for all those things. and if pvp, definitely prot, get woyer out of the way now.
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>>584539608
we already got bored at level 30 and didnt even bother with bis
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>>584539567

Monsters & Memories: Wood Elf Male Druid
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>>584532403
Kino
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>>584539631
>man, I want to FUCK skelves
Fixed That For You
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>>584539569
I aoe farmed just fine, not crazy meme pulls but 6-8 green mobs are totally doable
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>>584539738
prot warrior can do 8-10 yellows at once and come out with full hp
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>>584539738
>>584539807
its just pointless to pull more than 4
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>>584539892
I must deny the journeyshitters their quest mobs and drops though.
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>>584539892
not pointless if you have to take a fucking break after every fucking pull to drink 10 liters of fucking water
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>>584539749
trvke

we cant go back
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>>584539807
no way this is not geting nerfed r-right fellas.....
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>>584539982
just do 2 4 pulls
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how much would i regret going herb alch on launch...
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>>584540229
fast to level up
makes a lot of money because everyone else needs your dyes to craft those amazing new leveling BoPs
it will still slow you down but maybe you dont care about rushing to 60
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it's about the journey
>gets camped by a 60 rushing sweat
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>implying journeytrannies arent all rolling on RP
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>>584539261
I once did a search through the oldest archives for fun and this was the first thread mentioning WoW / WarCraft in the OP I could find
original image is lost btw, it just shows le trollfaes for any thread from that period
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>>584540290
well its either that or lw+skinning on my sham
it bums me out that alch doesnt really have bops but based on the charts nobody is taking it so it could be nice mone
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I barely played the beta. I will decide what I'm doing on launch when I get to the login screen
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>>584540290
>everyone else needs your dyes to craft those amazing new leveling BoPs

nobody is farming turn intos to craft leveling blues theyll replace later that day.
the only reason people crafted those is because the beta is capped at 20 and 30, otherwise they would never be crafted at all
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>>584540229
A lot. You'll want to go Skin/Leather until you can get the legacy point for reaching 150, then you'll want to drop them for Tailor/Enchanting to disenchant the gear and put your cloth to use making more to enchant/disenchant to get those legacy points at 150, then drop those for the professions you want so you have 4 legacy points right out of the gate.
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>>584540401
it might end up the min/max pick at lvl60 with the throwing potions
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>>584538773
killing boars with my incomplete class moveset is some sick gameplay
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>>584540469
>4 legacy points right out the gate
oh boy i cant wait for my 8% faster rested xp generation
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>>584540423
that's a dangerous game.... fren.
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>>584540395
the flame of youth still burns in the archives..
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>>584540469
>4 legacy points right out of the gate
>after spending 20 hours fiddling with proffs
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>>584540423
honesty based
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>>584540102
Tanks were already good enough in the original to manage threat but for some reason they almost doubled their damage so now they're doing dps damage while being tanky... (palas got spell damage and new strike; warrs rend, revenge, and thunder clap scaling; and bears mangle and swipe scaling)
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all the 60 rushers will be the ones providing endgame feedback first and will warp the game around themselves
forever dies on raid release when it's far too hard for the average cryboom (just like tbc and wotlk)
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Imagine playing melee as alliance and never getting windfury in your groups lmaoo
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is the dalaran dungeon any good
i never bothered doing it
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>>584540784
there's dwarf shaman now tardo
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>>584540784
>all melees will be at least 10% under what they are balanced to be
>no one plays casters
>hunters will rule as the no1 dps on alliance
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>>584540850
I don't think he stuttered, mate.
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>>584540819
worse dungeon blizzards released yet
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>>584540784
>tfw playing dorf shaman
everyone is going to love me so much i can make so many friends i will have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>584540850
sorry but submissive AGP sluts who are majority of alliance wont be playing dwarf

You will have plenty of female nelf/human druids/priests/paladins tho
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>>584539950
based
godspeed soldier
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who is this for
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>>584541059
casual shitter dadgamer
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>>584540997
if I play alliance, dwarf is the only thing I would play
maybe moustache night elf at a stretch
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>>584540673
i'm going to enjoy the first season of tank pvp so much until all the pvpers cry out in pain and they nerf it..
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Tanks are too overpowered in open world mob grinding.
They need to nerf them.
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>>584541257
Based fellow Moustache Night Elf Enjoyer
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>>584541214
better than catering to the bottom and top 10% like retoilet tho
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Flurry
>Increases your melee attack speed by 25% for your next 3 swings after dealing a melee critical strike.
Down from 30% on era, has a 3 swing cap, requires a critical hit. Meanwhile hunters get 30% for 12 seconds on any hit. I bet this shit has near perfect uptime.
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>>584541059
ngl theres something about bellular's physiognomy that gives me the biggest ick ever, he's so unbelievable ugly and weird looking
like I can just imagine him asking "where's my hug" and its so fucking gross I want to see him beat up viciously
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>>584541283
how about no
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>>584541368
on their pets retard
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>>584539807
Only with 10 legacy points.
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>>584541378
so true sis, one of the few guys i wouldn't blow either, even though my dysphoria was induced by hentai so i love very ugly men.
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>>584541368
If things stay as they are, no one is going to play anything but mage or hunter as a dps class lol
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>>584541446
There is zero text in that ability that says "on your pet" you faggot. Pets also don't have ranged auto attacks.
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>>584541459
no, its entirely doable without legacy points.
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>>584540993
I imagine playing dwarf shaman in a place like tanaris is constantly getting whispered "hey wanna come do ZF"
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>>584541529
But muh classes don't come online until heckin 40rino!11!1
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>>584541446
retardbro...
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>>584541552
i was too lazy to click your picture and figured you meant the bm fury
either way your still a retard
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>>584541590
>imagine being loved by the community
oh no i cant take this much wanting!!!!!
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>>584541318
Sad I can't have a mustache on skelves
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Do you think we will get dark iron dwarves added as customization for dorfs?
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>>584541368
>nooo nooo the same talent that has existed for 20+ years is now busted
>but but melee attack speed
you arent playing melee bro
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so i've heard a lot of young people are joining us this go again, what are the odds that us 40 year old neets are going to find a wife or boywife
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>>584541950
they already have grey skin options
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>janky half assed "SD" models in a game they described as "classic plus"
>"the world is the main character" meaning the world is split up into countless mini instances you will constantly phase inbetween
>ridiculous blue elves and not what makes sense, brought to you by metzen’s ego
>"the "journey" is one of our pillars but we're going to gut the way half of you enjoy the journey"
>game releases in 2 weeks and most focus is on a level fucking 30 pvp tournament organised by and for parasitic streamers

wew lad, if this hasnt just been fumble after fumble. I knew nu-blizz were incompetent, but I didnt think it was this bad. This could be a tortanic, really.
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Glad i had the beta to get world pvp out of my system.
pvp servers are basically fomo, you feel like you're missing a feature by not rolling on one, but the feature is just an annoyance so you can never relax in zones higher than lvl 20.
Leveling 4 characters to level 30 i never had a fair fight in open world pvp, not a single one.
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>>584541865
>2004 nu-metal beards
Blizzard really taking us back
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>>584541865
Yep, closest we got is the full goatee. A Whimsical moustache on Skelves would be good.
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I just want to be a Bear Druid but Fury instead of a tank - is that so much to ask for.
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>>584541590
I'm gonna play dwarf shaman hoping that we get dranei or something alongside paid race change down the line
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>>584542179
Best you can expect is bear-weaving as feral dps, though they're already trying to kill that.
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warlock pre 10 is so ass.....
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>>584528520
>>584529971
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP
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>>584542016
People love Forever and no amount of your malding will change that.
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>>584542259
one of the best
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>>584542259
you'll live
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ALEXENSUAL GAVE YOU CLASSIC WOW AND CLASSIC PLUS

WHAT DID YOU GIVE HIM IN RETURN
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>>584542449
/ignore
/block
/report
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>>584542259
Half of the classes pre-10 are ass. Several are ass pre-20 like warrior and rogue.
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>>584542195
Alliance should get furbolgs as shaman race. Theres already a shitload of furbolg content coming in hyjal and the rumored timbermaw megadungeon
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>>584542179
>i just want to be cocaine bear
Me too, druidbro. Me too.
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How do I convince my group to play horde? We played alliance on anniversary, but that shit is too gay, I want to play as monsters in huts, fuck
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>>584542259
Just get a wand asap.
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>>584542259
what class, except hunter, feels good pre 10?
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>>584541970
>spoiler
kys FAGGOT
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shaman seems so fun but im really scared it'll become a massive chore to lvl 40+ and ill get dejected and regret not just going druid
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>>584542541
If they're tryhards, convince them horde racials are OP. If they're casuals, convince them the questing is more laid back.
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>>584542620
you'll be happier just going druid
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>>584542580
Paladin is pretty sweet, druid's not bad.
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blizzard is going to focus on making raids in forever so mechanically complex that you can clear them in slop gear but if you try and zerg it you lose
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>>584542580
Priest feels just as good pre 10 as at level 30
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>>584542580
mage
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Rare transmog bug
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>slutty twink top for skelves
Frazetta would be proud.
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>>584542830
they will code in a hidden dps or maybe loot multiplier depending how long did you take to reach lvl60
if you dont embrace the journey then you will do no dps and get no loot from raids
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>>584542509
Rogue is kinda ass pre-64
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>>584542580
Hunter is THE worst class pre-10
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>>584542953
no, theyre just going to make mythic level raids but tune the health down instead of stripping mechanics out
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>>584542580
It's only an issue for WL for me since I'll delete and remake the character if a demon name is really bad.
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>>584542620
Shaman is barely a class outside restro. You exist to one shot people with rng in pvp and that's it. It's a one button class if you're not healing.
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>>584542982
only if you don't know the absolute basics of kiting, downplayer-kun
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What classes are fastest/slowest to level solo?
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>>584543035
>You'll take Shoosnot and like him damnit!
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Any warriors tested Bloodthrill out yet? Cba levelling my warrior to 30 but want to know if arms is dead on arrival.

Does it proc on all melee attacks or just white hits?

Does it reliably proc on most mobs you fight?

Is it useful in PVP or too clunky?
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>>584543368
>leveling a warrior
>isnt going prot
?
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for someone who is new to wow and has no nostalgic attachment to previous iterations of the game, why would someone like that play wow forever instead of retail?
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>>584543368
Yes, Somewhat, and I haven't touched PVP
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>>584543471
Forever is easier to get into.
Retail has just too many baggage over the years.
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>>584543164
isnt enhance supposed to be decent damage
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>>584543346
Any question about strongest, fastest, easiest etc. when it comes to solo-play can be answered with Hunter.
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>>584543471
retail is impossible to get into if going blind
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kill the green rat
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>>584543461
Sweeping Strike + WW carries the entire Warrior levelling experience and is the most satisfying combo in the game.
I will probably switch between all 3 specs levelling though just so I don't get bored.
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>>584543224
Other classes don't have to bother with that.
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>>584543654
>kill 25 green rats
FTFY
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>>584543584
Enhance is fine and pretty fun to play. That guy calling it a one button spec is probably a male human paladin
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>>584543164
>You exist to one shot people with rng in pvp and that's it.
that is enough for me
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>>584543590
What about slowest?
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>>584543471
Retail is by far the worst WoW to start as new player.
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>>584543471
It's like saying why would you watch Lord of the Rings when you can watch Rings of Power
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>>584543830
Any heal spec while solo.
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>>584542542
stupid world of wandcraft.... for real
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>>584543830
non prot warrior
then rogue and druid
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>>584543471
retail requires 0 social interaction, has absolute braindead and mind numbing content and gameplay, you can basically sleep from level 1 up to and including raids without ever saying a word or be in any danger of dying.
For the remaining 0.1% of the game it has genuinely challenging stuff and overall more in-depth mechanical gameplay. But for it you will just see everything you have already done again.

Forever is still very easy, but it does at least require you to engage with the game and other people across the whole thing in some way.
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>>584543912
Retail is the AI summary of Lord of the Rings until you reach max level which is the latest season of Rings of Power.
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>>584543584
i cant wait for posters like this to get bored and demoralized over the next 6 months and i get to watch every second of it, you guys are like Christmas morning every day
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Are there any fem dwarf faces that are hot? Might make a shaman.
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>>584541261
I'm going to put so many lacerates on rogues and see them lose the life in their eyes as frenzied regen restores 8k life.
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>>584543584
I'm in the same boat as you. I'll share my concerns and see if they help you:

Shaman
>Elemental is arguably the worst spec in the game right now. Terrible tree, terrible capstone, removed their iconic vanilla ability in EM.
>Enhancement got some nice upgrades, but bizarrely Blizzard have kept this halfway-house of "is it a tank or not?" theme.
>Resto actually looks great, but it's very boring because all of the "new" stuff is actually just TBC/WotLK abilities.

Druid
>Nice changes for tanking, Bear still lacks big cooldowns to mitigate damage but has become even better at everything else
>I only ever used Cat for stealth/openers so not really a cat player. From what I can tell it's objectively better outside of power shifting autism
>Balance is objectively better for both pvp and pve than vanilla, unlike Shaman Ele
>Resto Druid similar to Resto Shaman, got useful new stuff but nothing ground breaking
>Worst thing about Druid is the new spell/healing requirement; they've gutted Druid being a true hybrid unless you gear for everything which is basically impossible.
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Era fresh doko ni aru?
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>>584544464
SHOTGUN BLAST TO THE FACE
OOOOO THAT'S GOTTA HURT
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How easy will it to find raids as an resto shaman ? Will it be auto-invite even on horde side bc 80% of shamans will want to be enh ?
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ERA IS THRIVING
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>>584544464
there is maybe 2 that arent hot or cute
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>>584544618
>see blue elf
>slash ignore /slash spit
this easy
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>human mage
>first name real name + -us
>last name Rex
time for some fucking warcraft
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>>584534351
Small indie dev team, please understand
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>>584544618
yes raids will be always looking for healers
maybe not on alliance RP, those are always full of healers because women
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>>584544618
Thanks to dualspec all ele pvp shamans will be pve resto shamans for easy gearing in raids.
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>>584534351
New classes and new races are not content.
They will not make the experience any different when I play Human Male Warrior once again.
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>>584543830
>What about slowest?
disc or holy priest maybe, though it'll be a steady grinder (Especially disc)
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>>584544464
Most of the HD faces are cute in their own way. There's 2/3 SD faces that are pretty cute, including one that gives them very large lips which balance their broad face well.
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>>584544848
parse tranny
opinion discarded
go play circle hop scotch in retail where you belong
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forever needs m+
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>>584542982
>learn some 2h skill and use whatever white 2h weapon you can find
>learn only concussive and arcane shot(it scales now) to save cash
>learn how to kite
Congrats, now you can rape absolutely everything on sight and have fun instead of waiting for things to happen because you class has no good abilities yet.
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>>584538245
Tried both in beta, shaman was way more fun. Might change at level 60 though, so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>584543346
shaman is the worst in actual vanilla, then paladin (paladin quite fast to 30 and even 40 though), then probably questing on mage

fastest is aoe farm mage, hunter, rogue
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>>584545053
absolutely not
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>>584544464
just never take your helmet off
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>>584545132
shaman is one of the best, you are just giga bad at mana management
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>>584541957
>the same talent that has existed for 20+ years is now busted
Yes, it is busted. Simply put before the attack speed boost wasn't very impactful because casting hunter abilities would prevent your auto shot from triggering until the cast was completed. Now hunters automatically use auto shot, even while casting. If you don't see how that takes something that didn't matter, and turns it into something way too strong for a t1 talent then you might be retarded.
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>>584532793
I like this picture alot can I save it?
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Every time i step away for 5 minutes i think of my lovely druid.
Then i am reminded about druid pvp which is extremely sweaty and just peaks at spamming insect swarm and running away until the target dies and i begin to cry
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>>584543728
You can kill multiple targets as a prot warrior way before you're high enough to talent sweeping strikes. You take less damage as prot, and have better aoe damage.
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>>584542259
Druid is even worse because you can't wand
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>>584543471
If no nostalgic attachment, skip both
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>>584545056
>lEaRn 2 KiTe bRo
You are level 5.
You shoot enemies and facetank them and complete your quests. Nobody cares that you figured out a 10 seconds faster way to go from level 8 to 10.
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you guys better tell me the broken goldmaking tricks once the game comes out
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Should I play the pvp server like an idiot just because some friends want to play it because they're dadgamer idiots or should I go play the pve server alone and relax and not play with my friends goddamn it
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think im gunna play blue elf shaman

is rfc worth doing on launch do you think or do I just skip dungeons besides maybe ruins
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>>584544670
Looks like the s&box sausage people
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I hope we have a patch day every week in live with sweeping changes every time. I want to see

>wtf I rolled [class] because it was the best and now it sucks?????
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>>584545457
yeah fuck your retarded friends, pvp will make you quit or reroll pve
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>>584545319
I can't fucking wait to try that beefed up shield slam. Revenge+slam some motherfucker into the ground for less than 20 rage.
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They took the "world" out of WoW and replaced it with instances.
Reddit is melting down over this.
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>>584545284
balance pvp is loads of fun in forever? Have you even tried it..
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>>584545464
kill yourself huotroon
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>>584545576
is it possible to learn this power and level balance?
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>>584543471
Retail isn't a game. It's exclusively good for challenging yourself in high difficulty content. The lore, the social aspect, the story, the meaning of anything else you do there has been completely destroyed.
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>>584545446
The difference between kiting and doing it the lazy way is staggering, you go from being shittier than a druid to being a god.
1-10 is a such a frustrating experience as a hunter so anything to improve that is worth trying.
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>>584545539
>muh scary pvp
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wait this game launches right when Americans have to vote for their midterms?
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I want to play as much shadow priest as possible at max level while still healing raids/dungeons if required. The only thing I’m anxious about is gearing… i don’t wanna be a shitty shadow priest in PvP because I got disc-cucked into a bunch of purples that are only good for heals. is this a reasonable fear or not
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>>584545676
im cute irl you'd probably simp for me
also not a troon
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>>584545874
yes you get gear for your role in raids
BUT
not many people play clothies so it wont be that long until you start to get shadowpriest pieces
and you can probably craft epics, or buy from a rep vendor, maybe even 5mans will have epic drops
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>>584545457
can't believe you'd even ask that desu. Clearly they aren't your actual friends if you're even considering playing without them. If my friends wanted to play pve I would, even though I prefer pvp. Sorry to sound like a normoid but this game is infinitely better when you play with people you know.
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>>584545963
ORGRIMMAR
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Alliance shaman looks like that ?
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>>584545457
Play with your friends but play druid or rogue.
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aaaaaaaaaaa I can't deicde between warlock or warrior
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>>584545874
Cozy up to a tank daddy and simply don't invite cloth DPS to your groups.
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>>584545539
sigh... i dont have a choice
>>584546003
yea, just venting i guess... hopefully can transfer to pve a few months from release
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>>584545457
do the right thing and play with your friends BUT make a chill alt on RP as a backup for when your idiot dadgamer friends inevitably quit before they hit level 30.
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>>584546112
No like this.
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>>584546112
Why can't femdwarves look like this?
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>>584546112
kino
>>584546294
hideous
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>>584546112
I wish I looked like this
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>>584546112
slop
>>584546294
based
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>>584546128
for me its lock and mage and shaman
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I'm still mad about how fucked alliance warlocks are.
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WE MUST BE BETTER ELVES
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>>584546459
God retail is cringe
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>>584546458
horde rogues have it worse.
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>>584546459
wait a second this isn't WoW Forever
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FemDwarf shaman are based
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>>584546459
DAS RIGHT
when a strong troll woman speaks, you white man chuddy will be silent and listen
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https://x.com/icyveins/status/2110661513975623731

I can't stand world pvp fags. All you want to do is kill lowbies and invade opposite faction cities in a raid group. It's fucking boring after your first time doing it.
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>>584546579
They don't, and even if they did rogues can pick their fights in wpvp.
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>>584546625
>all you want to do is have fun. UGH. what does this have to do with parsing? do you have any idea how much world pvp would cut into my xp/hr?
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>>584545874
In TBC we had cloth gear with +shadow damage which was gear exclusive for spriests, I'm pretty sure they will add some in forever too, it's literally free gear
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>>584546579
>Horde Rogues
>Just stay away from humans when their short buff is up lmao
>Alliance Warlock
>fuck your stuns, fuck your curses, fuck your DoTs lmao get cucked dumb fuck
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Blizzard as a company is so lazy and borderline retarded it is amazing always 6-12 months too late on every trend

blanked on dota
blanked on tower defence
blanked on hero defence
blanked on wow classic
blanked on hardcore
blanked on wow classic again
fucked up starcraft after WOL
Diablo completly gets bodied by PoE1 and 2


they always get 3rd party passion projects to do their dirty work/market testing and then take over......
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>>584546625
You know, I could gank lowbies for hours.
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>>584546625
fuck off back to retail lil gup
nobody wants your arenas/rbgs, that shit flopped years ago on 'toilet
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how dead is retail
does anyone actually play it
i remember back when people were saying that xiv had the same population as retail

the rwf streams have to be botted too right, are 50000 people really watching max sit around doing nothing while they run 30 split raids
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>>584546459
Reminder that these same people will be writing the new content for WoWF.
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>>584546625
look, all I want is the ability to see what layer my friends are on and to be able to MANUALLY select what layer I'm on, once an hour, if I have to return to my capital city to do so, that's fine, but how it works now is dogshit
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https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/P._Diddimus

uhh why is this still in the game?
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>>584546602
>nose ring
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Riot is hard abandoning LoL Classic so it's looking bad for their MMO
guess Blizzard is still king
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>>584547069
its a classic nose ring, not the middle of the nose cow rings that are currently popular for whatever reason
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>>584546892
>the rwf streams have to be botted too right
Obviously. The entire reason they make mythic raids so impossibly hard on release is to pretend people care about watching the only 2 guilds with the resources to clear them.
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>>584547069
I have a nose ring irl to show that I’m not straight. however if I were an adventurer who got hit in the face a lot I definitely wouldn’t want one
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>>584547047
Why would they take it out when they're doing the same thing except with breast milk instead of baby oil?
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>>584547116
that riot mmo is never coming out
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>>584546602
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>>584547287
If you're getting hit in the face a lot as a healer then you need to break up with your tank
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>>584547116
what lol classic has to do with mmo? riot went in lol classic with only one though - to double dip with microtransactions, your old stuff like all the runepages weren't available there, so whales had instant advantage, people tried and dipped immediately, riot genuinely retarded
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>>584547314
This.
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>>584545563
Correctly too. The layering/sharding/whatever is very jank.
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>>584547349
And?
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>>584547389
they abandoned their fighting game after a month too
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>>584547116
Starcraft MMO any day now!!
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>>584547419
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>584546625
Wpvp will forever be fun but raiding capital cities is something I did once in 2009 and never again.
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>>584547530
If you think they're going to rig armor for zerg units when they wont even rig it for naga or orgres, you're retarded.
>>
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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>>584547671
If you even consider the possibility of playable zerg units, you're retarded.
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>>584545326
Druids have thorns so they are easy mode.
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I can't wait to have my skelf level through Westfall. Being a wind elemental elf druid in windy ass westfall sounds kino.
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>>584547671
>>584547794
>tfw you'll never play as Tal'darim protoss with Alarak as your chud faction leader
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>>584547890
It's classic westfall, not windy westfall, so it's boring and miserable and you're better off going to redridge right off Zephrys Isle.
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Why would they give their paywalled elves suck mid racials?
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>>584547287
I bet you wouldnt need a nose ring to tell…
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>>584547890
Westfall doesn't feel windy at all?
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restedxp is mostly okay but sometimes it routes you through the most tedious bullshit quests and I would honestly prefer if it just told me to grind mobs in those segments instead
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>>584548017
Classic westfall still had wind elementals
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>>584548045
I'm not playing the elves for their racials. Unless having shoes is a racial.
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>>584547890
skelves are NOT welcome in Westfall
Go to fucking Darkshore where you belong.
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Restedxp
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>>584547828
Thorns got nerfed like 4 times
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>>584548053
it's by the sea, it's guaranteed windy as fuck 24/4
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>>584548017
>>584548053
nta but
>wandering tornado elementals all over the zone
>huge plain full of fields, set in autumn
feels pretty windy alright
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>>584548121
>I'm not playing the elves
Could've stopped there anon.
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when ogres are inevitably added, will they be based on the kul tiran model, or the pandaren model?
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>>584548195
It should be windy but it doesn't feel like it.
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>>584548045
They know foids and chinks will play them anyways
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I cant wait till nuBlizz makes all our wildest dreams come true and we’re all rich with hot skelf gf’s!!!
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>>584548045
something something "look guys it's not pay to win!"
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I just want the fucking troll priest racial to look shadowy and not a copy paste of lightning shield…..
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>>584548163
And yet as an agricultural zone it has no windmills to process grain into flour.
Curious.
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>>584546625
People who want to roll on pvp servers need to be aware of who they're gonna be playing with, and it's mostly subhumans who can only have fun when someone else isn't.
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>>584548214
Nah. If my friends roll a horde I'm going to have to.
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>>584548247
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I never touched retail but how did they 'sell' people these allied races as new races? Its big body type human, trolls that don't hunch, taurens with tribal tattos, black dwarves.
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>>584548397
>how did they 'sell' people these allied races as new races?
Just another thing to collect.
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>>584548397
new content, cheevos, by the end it didnt even matter what they pushed out, it's just new stuff, nobody gives a fuck anymore, like genuinely
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>>584548247
Whichever one requires the least work.
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>>584548397
>sell
they were free with the expansion and were added over the patches
and void elves are the only succesful allied race anyway
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>>584548397
Pretty much just that.
>Look, they're not new races completely because we dont have the time to make those and put armor on them correctly, so here's races you already have just with different colors/features you've requested as customization option for your existing characters
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watched a pvp video with a shaman elemental and the guy sounded so depressed saying he played wow all day that it made me reconsider playing the game at all
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>>584548568
No fucking wonder we got blue elves if retail is this obsessed with the other variants of them.
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>>584548152
I'm going to seduce all the human women farmer wives who haven't even seen an elf before and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
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>>584546892
>how dead is retail
extremely dead outside the first 2 weeks of each new patch
retail has "full", "high", "medium", and "low" pop servers, over 100+
basically, "full" pop servers have 2-4k players on both factions on at prime time, 5k+ at new patches
everything lower than "full" is dead, medium and below you won't see another player for hour sometimes
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>>584548152
Them desperate, harried farmboys are gonna be surrounded by feral, shamanistic elves eager to play Meet the Spoonear and crush the Defias Brotherhood for them. The next generation of Stormwind's breadbasket WILL be half-elves and their pet Air Elementals, wearing Blue Overalls for +4 Str, +4 Stam!
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>>584548652
he didnt follow the advice of the loading screen to play wow in moderation
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>>584548247
you think rexxars mum was raped or did his das just have a giantress fetish
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>>584548857
After meeting him in TBC I think Rexxars dad was raped.
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>>584548857
His clan were originally rape babies but at some point became their own thing so his parents may have been both half-ogres.
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>>584548857
It's better to treat pre-corruption orcs as cousins of ogres, so it was likely consentual. Remember, it's:
>Earth Elemental>Ogron>Ogre>orc
So ogres and orcs are more like Bronzebeard dwarves and Dark Iron dwarves as far as relation
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>last beta patch today
>potential 2 internal patches before launch
surely they will fix all the bugs reported in this 60 yurobux beta balanced around streamer pvp tourney
surely they will rework struggling classes like ele and holy
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>>584548247
>He believes he is getting ogres
Haha
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>>584549165
the WoD ogre slavers were funny
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>>584549167
there's another patch coming?
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>>584548696
Girls love playing elves so it's there to appeal to them. I don't know if the Classic style gameplay is appealing to girls however.
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>>584549497
It's easy and low IQ.
It does.
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>>584549365
Draenor was vastly more interesting than Outland and BC lore sucked.
There, i said it.
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>>584549465
yes today, big weekly patch
it was just hotfixes yday
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>>584549497
Girls will only play cute things. It's a huge problem in league in a really funny way.
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>>584549672
More than retail though?
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>>584549673
Draenor would've been way cooler if we had no way back, and Draenor was the in-setting reset for WoW.
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>>584549673
Truth nuke.
Outland being a post-post apocalyptic shithole is what makes it ass but people aren't ready for that talk.
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>>584549774
Significantly easier
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>tfw I will have to settle for a night elf male priest because my dumb friends want to play alliance and every other ally race is fucking stupid
I hate it
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>>584549887
I'm still praying for skelf priest.
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>>584549887
>waah waah waah
shut the FUCK up no shoe immigrant
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>>584549875
I mean in the appealing to girls aspect. It being easy doesn't mean they'll flock to it in droves.
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>>584548697
Do people make these look like clowns on purpose?
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>>584549754
>>584549465
>PATCH COMING FROM BEHIND
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>>584549887
NE males are a good sleeper race because everyone and their fucking mother goes the sexy females
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>>584549887
gayest post i have seen on this website
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How many hours until patch?
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Is this the patch where they fix ele shaman
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/resistance-gear-and-the-economy-friends-per-second-podcast-interview-with-383386
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announce that forever will revamp gearing and itemisation
>we made everything blue!
people complain
>we made everything green and worse than classic!
people complain
I don't understand why they even fuck with lvl 1 - 59 itemisation to being with.
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is it time to admit that we all fucking hate garbage slop like Forever but were just addicted to a fresh start and posting on this general?
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>>584550283
>replace lava burst with thunder strike
>remove charges on lightning shield
>give an RNG chance to hit your target with lightning shield on cast
done
fucking done
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>>584549810
That's what makes it great. Also bring yourself back to 07. Apocalypse aesthetic was just coming into vogue
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>>584550283
yeah, elemental is now a tank spec.
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>>584550283
No no, that'll be the 10% lightning bolt base damage buff after three raid resets of doing 40% of top specs. They said they're doing "class balancing" for the first half a year.
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>>584550283
Yes, ans also make spell claw (get it?) enh
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>>584550314
>we made everything green and worse than classic!
They did this solely to balance around the PvP tournament. Do you think anyone would have complained that blues are "too strong" if they weren't level caps allowing people to sit in dungeons farming and twinking out?
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>>584550336
But i hate fresh starts which is why I leveled 1 character in classic being hyped for doing TBC and realised everything has an expiry date, its like a 15 month long FOMO.
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>>584550448
A caster tank is something wow will Never have.
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>>584548247
ogres already have their own fully modeled and animated rig since WoD, dunno why they wouldn't just use that one
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I made a thread on reddit asking for the devs to improve the rewards of long quest chains that make you travel around the world because I'm one of the idiots that actually does those instead of skipping it
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class/race for me on the left?
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>>584550283
>he thinks they are going to fix ele
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>>584548697
SHOTGUN BLASTS THE FACE OFF
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>>584550497
Is there anything positive to come from the tournament? Maybe a bunch of people to stress test the most useless snapshot of the game.
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Ice Lance is the dumbest dogshit boringest ability everest.

Shatter icelance combo, into random chill proc fingers spam icelance over and over. WHOA SO ENGAGING TO PRESS THIS BUTTOOOONNNN OVER AND OVERRRR
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>>584550497
People complained before the tournament because it was a valid complaint. You're not fully decked out in blues until the 40s, whereas the new dungeon rewards instead made that possible before lvl 20. And stronger items == faster leveling which is antithetical to their purported focus for Forever.
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>>584549497
trannies aren't girls and should never be catered to because they're mentally ill freaks, that should be in mental institutions
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>>584550645
They don't want us to dungeon, they don't want us to do long quest chains, are we just grinding?
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Anyone know what time they usually post the weekly podcast episode on Youtube?
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>>584550701
No changes: 50%
Actually nerfing ele: 40%
Turning ele into a tank spec: 7%
Fixing ele: 3%
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>>584550721
>sit there farming dungeons with the abysmal EXP rates to get decked out in blues for a slightly easier questing experience instead of just questing
88 IQ plays, definitely worth balancing the game around
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>>584550596
Earth Elemental WILL be the super-voidwalker, and Ele Shaman WILL cast Rockbiter Weapon, Thunder Shield, and Earth Shield (Ele) on it!
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>>584550309
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How good is starshards for leveling?
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>>584550336
I love Sailor Moon
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>>584550309
What the fuck does this even mean?
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we need to talk...
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>>584550824
You VILL play the way that blizzard(streamers) wants you to play
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>>584550923
Another colour of the same mount.
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>>584550923
Buzzwords dude
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>>584550894
When Blizzard talks, we listen.
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>>584550923
It means that Azeroth is getting fat.
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>>584550879
You don't get it!
Spending 3h spamming deadmines for cruel barb is better than getting 3h of actually fucking leveling.
Because... Huh... Cruel barb is just That good yeah!!!
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>>584550923
it means we will get more dungeons to level in, more zones to do dailies in, tol barad
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>>584550923
netherlands is coming to azeroth
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>>584550686
Human male warrior/paladin
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>>584550923
Instead of introducing new level 60 zones full of dailies, there will be new leveling zones for your alts. Leveling infinite alts is what they believe will keep people playing.
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>>584550923
Architecting azeroth babe
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>>584550686
Human Vegeta hairstyle Hunter
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>>584550686
People say DPS are retarded but this looks a lot like healer gameplay in raids.
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>>584550923
It means everything endgame will have shit gear except for ultra rare drops to keep you farming every raid each week.
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Wow forever should have tameable harpy wives
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>>584549673
ye BC lore was stupid, with kaelthas going full retard and whatever that magical school, love triangle backstory was they cooked up for no reason....

we never should have fought wc3 heroes anyway, the story should have been told in the RTS
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>>584551127
And it will.
This time it just will.
It will work.
Like it worked in turtle!

Btw I never played turtle.
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>>584550923
I imagine (but no certainty here) that the intent is to push out 3-4 zone-dungeon(x1-2)-raid(x1-2) content patches per year, for several years, but to not specifically do things like "Lich King invades Lordaeron/The Plaguelands -> We Invade Northrend -> We Slay Lich King," which spends multiple patches setting up, fighting, and then finishing and removing from use a narrative source of conflict.

Instead, they can do the Molten Core content patch, which ends with Ragnaros defeated, but sent back to the Elemental Plane of Fire, then follow up with Blackwing's Lair, where we -can- finish off Nefarian (and Onyxia, who we start with), because the Black Dragonflight and Deathwing still exist to 'generate' future conflict. Same with AQ, since Old Gods can't die-die, and we still have known Yoggy and N'zoth, same with ZG, since we still have trolls + Zandalari trolls, same with Naxx, since KT is a Lich with a phylactry.

They basically, -reasonably- have conflict generators from 4, -maybe- 5 expansionis that they can use for new content patches that expand Azeroth itself without needing to completely finish and shelf Lich King, or Deathwing, or Old Gods. Time still passes, but unlike with expansions that specifically structure a chronological order and require the acknowledgement of passing time, the devs can release like 4-5 raids total across Year 1 and despite them having a sequence of availability for us, the players, in setting, they were always roughly simultaneously available conflicts going on. Then they can do this for the next 'tier'.
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>>584550948
why does LoL look like a gay boyband simulator now ?
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>>584551179
Are all tier gear going to be tier tokens?
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>>584548045
implying they arent getting mega buffed today
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>>584550923
it means they are expanding it vertically
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>>584550923
Instead of expanding vertically, into outer space like TBC/Legion or underground like Cata/TWW
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>>584550894
they clearly had an AI summarize the video
i had AI tell me more
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>>584551184
The Tauren racial, Cultivation, should make a hunter-pet copy of a Harpy that joins the Tauren as a slave-wife, rather than the Herb nonsense it is now.
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>>584551276
Cause of the Asian market.
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>>584551127
Alts are important, but they're not important enough to carry an MMORPG like Forever. Hasn't the team already learned this lesson from 20+ years of retail experience?

>>584551247
Is it possible that Blizzard is going to invest more money into Forever after the latest beta success?
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>>584551179
Dat sounds...
Fuarking!!! EEPIIIIIC!!!!
FUUUUCK Can't wait for it to drop and get it because I'm a cool dude and everyone loves me
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>>584551276
that's where the money is, apparently
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>>584550923
new profs, new classes, new specs, new builds, new activities, new gear for the new activities,
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>>584551341
That sounds interesting, but isn't it going to make alchemy more shit?
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>>584551341
>we want to make alchemy, the profession whose main purpose is to make consumables for raids, to no longer make consumables for raids
wow they have such peerless insight into their own game
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RACIAL CHANGE DAY
SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR ORC AND TROLL RACIALS
THEY WOULDN'T DARE OR WOULD THEY
LOL
LOL
LOL
YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS
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>>584550923
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>>584550721
It's literally slower leveling because dungeons suck for EXP. You're now level 20 in blues doing better against yellow mobs, the guy who didn't do that is level 24 in greens that are equivalent to your level 20 blues and still ripping through green mobs. And even if someone wanted to do that, why is it bad? Why does everyone need to be forced to play the exact same way?
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You have 3 weeks until this game completely consumes your life for the foreseeable future. How are you going to spend them?
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>>584551630
where the FUCK did ANYone say that
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>>584551715
The jury is still out, I'll give it one month to truely capture me. Not to mention, the first week will be absolutely unplayable.
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>>584550879
>>584551692
The complaints were about the quest rewards
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which way, Eastern Kingdom mage?
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>>584551630
>>584551545
this is how theyre going to change alchemy

you can low and high alch items like in runescape, but in wow itll give gold+the de mats
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>>584551863
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>>584551863
Dwarf
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>>584551715
Not if they keep shooting themselves in the face
Changing the classic money printer into retail, now there's no more money to keep retail going
LOL
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>>584551863
Left
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>>584551687
heh funny guy
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>>584551863
Female Gnome
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>>584551924
not even if they were free
>>584551943
just for racials? I'm a bit worried that gnome is the designated mage class and they'll be all over the place
sure, humans will be all over the place too but at least most of them won't be mages
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>>584551692
Everybody isn't forced to play the exact same way. 'People' like you that emphasize optimization in Exp gains over every other aspect of the game, to the point of saying if your specific way of play isn't optimal, you are being FORCED by the devs to NEVER touch a dungeon again, because it's a waste of your time, are still free to run dungeon spam to level. It's just not as efficient out the gate anymore.
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>>584551924
Preorders must be low if they're shilling these things already
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wheres the patch
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Anybody know how to get RestedXP? Fuck paying for it.
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>>584552019
You're a retard. The question is that if it's already nowhere near optimal, why nerf it more? That is the devs trying to shoehorn you into playing the way they want you to play. You're like early retard GPS that would offer you an alternate route that adds 30 minutes to your trip for no reason.
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>>584550923
Wiiiiiidelands
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>>584551341
Why would anyone bother going alchemy if it doesn't give you buffs for you to sell and use during raids? What is the point of it after that? It just becomes a shittier version of engineering.
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>>584552067
retail will rise once again from the ashes of forever not unlike a phoenix!!
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reminder that the people making this game are the same people that made incursions in phase 3 of SOD and even doubled down after phase 3 launched and said "its so cool seeing people leveling up outside of dungeons" as a benefit to incursions when it was just people walking around in a loop and generating over 100 raw gold an hour while leveling 40-50 (this profit was higher when people were doing masses at 50 with the weakaura automating everything) and allowed it to happen for months before quietly admitting that it was a horrible idea and functionally removing them after the economy was already hyperinflated
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>>584551341
These niggers have no clue what they're doing
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>>584552306
Maybe BoP potions?
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>>584551365
>The Tauren racial, Cultivation, should make a hunter-pet copy of a Harpy that joins the Tauren as a slave-wife, rather than the Herb nonsense it is now.
please apply to blizzard
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>>584552398
>bop stat boosts
Okay, so now everyone is required to go alchemy/engineering to parse and pvp.
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>>584552263
Stay mad and don't play if you can't stand your way not being the optimal path, dumb fuck.
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which basedface will be on the podcast today?
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>>584552578
Almondgold
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give it to me straight. how raped are orcs going to be today
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>>584552481
>Waaaa my profession doesn't offer anything good
>"what if it offered this good thing?"
>NO!!! Thats BAD because it will FORCE me to use it!!

What do you actually want?
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>>584552263
Just go play on your p2w private server instead of crying here
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bop luck potion that increases the chance of an epic drop in the world
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>>584552578
asmongold, followed by mass tranny suicides worldwide
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>>584552652
racials are gonna be basically over again in general
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>>584552019
By nerfing experience from dungeon kills they are forcing people to play a specific way. That's the entire reason they made the change. If they didn't care to control the way people are gaining experience then they never would have modified the experience gains.

I can't tell if you're retarded or trolling, so I have to assume you're just a retard.
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>>584552263
arguing with journeytards is pointless anon
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>>584551692
This time people will totes do the worse thing!
I will totes do it.
W-what? Stream or film me doing it?
Haha nooo I'm not an attention whore haha!
B-but I'm totes doing it!!!
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>>584552481
Every profession could offer bop stat boosts
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>>584552564
Why do you decrepit 40 year olds need everyone to play the same way as them to have fun in first place? How do alternate ways to progress being viable stop you from smelling all of the flowers that you want?
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How's fishing in Forever?

>I just wanna be comfy and fish bros
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>>584552652
Orcs are going back to the internment camps with this patch
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new bread
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>>584551863
Sky elves saved alliance mages for me.
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>>584552756
you are an Iranian RMT booster tranny you lost you lost you lost
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>>584552836
I got 150+ pretty fast.
Also I think it became harder to start fishing but easier later. But if you buy lure it's like good.
Also I think they did something to fishing spots, they last way longer.
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>>584552756
They aren't forcing anyone, you can still grind dungeons if that's what you like

This argument isn't about what you like tho, this is just a childish temper tantrum over dungeon farming not being the optimal leveling strategy anymore
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new bake >>584552954
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>>584552784
Unless bop crafting gear is bis at 60, it isn't mandatory. If flasks, LiP and FAP become bop, then alchemy becomes mandatory.
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>>584552652
Either they rape them really fucking hard or i'll be playing Horde
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>>584552836
fish with a controller. when it bobs you can hit square instead of staring and right clicking the tiny bobber
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>>584553086
doesn't it work if you just enable and keybind the interact key?
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>>584553021
>tailoring/lw/bs make new armor patches that they can only apply to gear they are wearing
>the patches wear down and need to be reapplied every now and then
Wow it's like you could simply make new ways of getting the same buffs
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>>584552813
Because then people get ahead of me and THATS UNFAIR.
In my 41 years of life people have been getting ahead of ME.
And this is about ME this is MY GAME and you'll play it like I WANT YOU TO.
ITS MY FUCKING GAME AND YOU ARENT GETTING AHEAD OF ME EVER AGAIN.
GO TO RETAIL. FOREVER IS FOR ME.
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>>584552756
Stay upset, bro. If you spammed dungeons because that's how you enjoyed playing WoW, then you get to play the way you enjoy even longer. If you spammed dungeons because you could just sit in a number of simple, repetitive dungeons and do your leveling process within 5-7 'rooms,' then Blizz has made it clear that your kind can still do so, but it's not optimal.

Your slam dunk of "Blizzard FORCING my kind to play THEIR specific way" would actually hold weight if your retard side wasn't "just spam dungeons," and their side wasn't "Go out and do more kinds of content." I won't call you a retard because I think you're just a disingenuous bot shitting up the thread intentionally.
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>>584552652
If they nerf Orcs but don't touch nelves I'm gonna laugh so hard
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>>584552813
Getting less Exp from killing dungeon mobs doesn't make you unviable. Being a shitter who can barely play their class outside of being carried in an aoe bomb, at -best-, makes you unviable and undesireable as a player. I genuinely don't want parity between our playstyles because I think you and your kind are an anchor around the neck of the playerbase and your kind pollute the scale of what's reasonable bit by bit, similar to the nazi bar story.
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>>584553471
Why would they nerf nelves?
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>>584553550
>implying vanilla content is difficult in any way
Bait used to be believable.
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>>584553550
You'll eventually tie the noose around your own neck of your own volition, troonie
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>>584553820
>>584553962
>responses talking about difficulty, and about nothing but kys

Keep the thread active, bots.
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my favorite part of tbc classic is having to abandon every single group quest because its dead as fuck
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>>584534027
So in actual vanilla WoW rogues were good and common in PVE and gods in PVP. In TBC you didn't need rogues at all in PVE but they were still pretty good and great in PVP. WOTLK killed rogues and they've been shit ever since.

From a modern perspective, as we saw in nuWoW Classic variants, you don't actually need rogues at all. Even if they are the theoretical best single target DPS you won't "need" a single rogue when you could have another mage. Fire mages are the true kings of vanilla and TBC WoW PVE.

But maybe a guild will bring 1 to 3 rogues in the raid group just cuz - IF you out dps warriors and ret shitters - but if rogues aren't clearly superior to ret shits and warriors then you're fucked.
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>>584551184
.morphpet
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>>584554376
>clearly superior to warriors
Since we're assuming minmax retardation, rogue doesn't need to be clearly better since bringing over 1 warrior brings 0 value, so you would pick the better DPS just as you picked brown over anything else in Classic.
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Blizzard should reserve some time on a show like the video game awards, march all the devs and executives onto the stage and then apologize for twenty years of pure dog shit sullying their once great name and then commit mass suicide
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>>584552851
>kills honour less targets
I'm pretty sure this is bugged in forever as you get the honour popup even for grey levels with ress sick
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>>584555608
Actually smiled imagining the scene desu
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>>584555662
Honor in the beta does absolutely nothing so it doesn't matter.
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>>584555608
That's a bit problematic, chuddy. How about a drag show instead?
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>>584555608
That would be the first step towards reconciliation
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>>584547619
Wpvp is never fun either you're getting ganked while just farming or trying to level. Or you're the asshole ganking some poor bastard who is just lvling or farming.
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>>584543346
If you can play perfectly and know everything.
Mage. Then pala. Then hunter. Then warlock and then other shit.
If you are a noob, hunter.
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>>584543471
If you want the truth. Retail fucking sucks dick and has done for more than a decade.
We dont know how forever really is yet but vanilla wow was good and classic was pretty fun even though blizz fucked it all up.
If you're a woke leftist who wants to be catered to and dont care about good story writing or gameplay you will prefer retail
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>>584559240
Just Mage, you literally have an invul on pld.
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Speaking of mages.
>me grinding gnolls
>needs to be careful to not pull more than one
>take 30-45 seconds to kill
>sits down and drink for another 30 seconds
>here comes a mage
>aggros entire camp
>Aoes them down in a few seconds
>move onto the next camp
>Blizzard: Mages should get some more buffs before release...
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>>584546834
Humans have two racials that fuck rogues. Dwarf Stoneform is also very good. Meanwhile, Orcs remove one of your dots and make your dots tick for 15% less for 8 seconds. Like that is going to make a difference. Warlocks were the best 1v1 class in vanilla and they only got buffs, you will be fine. WotF got nerfed, it's not even as good. One fear removal where you have to let the fear go off now rather than pre-casting it just as the cast went off like before AND getting immunity.
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>>584564580
>>584564580
>>584564580

ITS OVER. BLIZZARD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT.
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>>584531417
Just give them legs



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