>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.The journey begins on November 4th.Previous Thread >>584483778
First for add Drakthyr females
world of warcraft
>>584528401whats crazy is that I look like that
Either they add Draenei or I'm crashing Forever with no survivors.
>>584528447Dracthyr don’t make sense when the Primal Incarnates aren’t canon in Forever.
BLORCS
why is he forcing me to install restedxp?
Give mages water elementalsLet druids summon ravens
I just want to respect the earthmother, protect my village, lift heavy totems, and train my axe skills.
>>584528580Ice Lance instead of Water Elemental is the gayest fucking thing, in my opinion.
>>584528580Summoner druids are too kino for the average WoW player to handle
I don't wanna play hunter because I know its gonna be overpopulated. Which is particularly bad for a DPS class.But I literally can't stop thinking about knots. Not sure what to do.
>>584528717Bro, your Force of Nature?
>>584528401>>584528447>>584528497>>584528520>>584528531RETOILETS ARE ETERNALLY SEETHING COMPLETE AND TOTAL MIND RAPE
>>584528697they have stated multiple times that their goal with forever is to draw new and old players with the mantra "easy to learn, easy to master". Water elemental skill ceiling is too high for new players so it fell out of consideration
>>584528401Do you work nights? Are you a morning person?<Daybreak Company> is casual raiding guild that will be formed on launch day. We are currently recruiting for a core 20m raid group that will be ready to raid once raids open in December.>NA-RP / Alliance>Raid times will be 530-830am CST Saturday (20m) and Sunday (10m)>SR loot, no loot council/DKP corruption>Meta builds, consumables, world buffs not required>New guild, blank slate>Tabard will be created day 1I'm not very active in the beta but I'll post this intermittently up to launch day.https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X
>>584528717I can’t believe they let hunters have the summon animals and roll along with a blob of animals shit but not druids. Why do they keep making hunters into magical nature people when they already have a fucking class for that
>>584528787No old player is coming back with skyborne in the game lol
>>584528520With their population so low do you think the Draenei have a "just get pregnant and nobody asks questions" policyShinzo Abe repopulation levels of casual sex
>>584528787Just make it a raw DPS cooldown, no frost nova.
>>584528757As always: Play what you like. Its that simple. I always liked mage, so I will roll a mage.Never roll a class because other people told you to do so.
What are some techniques I can use to convince people I'm a girl while playing priest?
was warcraft lore ever good?
>>584528941Download a voice changer program, join discords, get free loot.
>>584528851Is telling your animals to fucking dog pile some guy "magical nature"That just seems like the hunter is pointing and shouting and animals attack
>>584528767Is just a fraction of the true potential of a summoner druid.
Who actually wanted Goblins or Blood elves or Dranei. Not me thats for sure. I love Sky Blelves and retail skeletons and all that jazz FOREVER. I love that they dont plan to add any of the races we all not wanted for a whole year of Forever. Above all i love Blizzard the mots intouch with the community company out there. I love all of you anons too. I am a loverboy FOREVER HYYYYYPE
>>584528697Sorry its gonna lead to homogenization because hunters and warlocks have pets
>>584529007isn’t the hunter spell to basically materialize (“call”) wild animals from nowhere to attack? It’s not their trained pet. To me that should be a Druid thing
>>584529004What are some good ones, preferably cheap? I imagine the tech is much better now because it was very easy to detect 10 years ago.
>>584528520Just join the 41% already.
>>584528974Lore, yes. Stupid and goofy in some places, but enjoyable.Story, meh? WoW story after WC3 suffers from having to fit into an MMO world rather than an RTS game.
Crazy idea, I know. Playable Satyrs on the Horde side. Adapt the Draenei rig, give them the magic addict role Blood Elves had. Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Warlock, maybe Hunter too.
>>584528974only in the original strategy games
>>584529090man there’s more than one way to handle a pet class that doesn’t tread on warlock or hunter
NO RETAIL RACESIN WOWFOREVER!YOU LOST, TRANNY NIGGERS!!!SEETHE COPE DILATEYWNBAW
im not having fun with forever i think im going to go back to retail
>>584529094Maybe I'm thinking of the retail ability where all your trained pets bumrush someone
>>584529163warlocks are barely a pet class themselves, they are so poorly implemented
>>584529098That I don't know. I used to use Voicemod for GTA RP myself but never thought it was that convincing, and there's probably way better stuff out there now with AI.
I wish there was a second physical ranged DPS option
>>584529085this. recolored retail races are so much better. it shows they care because it's new content.
>>584528814>RP
>>584529186I already won because I can make a cute blue skelfy druid <3
>>584529186>take retail race>make a skin with hue shifted towards some stupid color>call it something elseNow what, big guy?
>>584529310Skypera!
>>584529259They made Survival melee, they should have made one of the Rogue specs ranged focused.
>>584528531They can just make it up like they made up Skelves
There's still blizzard marketing shills in the threadBAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>584529310This.>Taken worgen>Make them black>Flip their name>Put back in gameThink Blizz will do it?
>>584529259BEHOLD ... but in a different game
>>584529402Deadly throw is such a fucking tease of a talent Does rogue really need 3 specs that are all basically the same
>>584529445Tinker would work so well for this
>>584529186>We have no plans to add races that actually existed in the world of Classic WoW but were not playable; instead we are going to invent a new high elf subspecies that never existed in Classic WoW and looks like it belongs in Bastion from Shadowlands Woah...
>>584529259Believe in the TinkerOr some gay spell-gun class or something
>>58452913041% of the Forever playerbase will be made up of female Draenei
>>584529496isn't there a ranged rogue in retail? or maybe was, i can't remember.
>>584529259Throwing weapon warrior based off Troll Headhunters Axe Throwers and Berserkers
>>584529528Reminder that it’s Metzens fault
>>584528903Its not about what other people tell me. It's about rolling a dps class and having huge competition when it comes to groups and gear.
>3 weeks until launch>sharting is still in the game >when I zone out of a capital half of the playerbase suddenly disappears DoA
>>584529259Isn’t there a guy in Cata SFK that fights with dual pistols?
>>584529557No. They have some ranged spells but they are still melee
>>584529557No, retail didn't add a single ranged spec until the gay dragons like 10 expacs in. In fact they removed one when they made Survival in melee in Legion or whenever they did that.
>>584529414don't be such a coward, point at them
>>584529414where is the slop poster when you need him...
>>584529557No it just uses melee guns with pirate theming and bullshit retail magic rogue shit
>>584529635YesRetail rogues also have pistols but only for like three spells, but one of them is a reworked Killing Spree that now just shoots a lot
>>584529635yeah there's an undead gun wizard
>>584529635That guy killed Sylvanas but she got better
>>584529672Damn. GoonWithMe going places.
NODRAENEIALLOWED
Priestsisters, how's the class playing? How you feeling?
post more goats in memory of goats
>>584529750She was already dead
>"M-Mr Metzen c-can i p-please add the races the p-players actually w-want?"*SMACK**WHAM*You add what i tell you to add BITCHggrend.
>>584528814how do you raid while roleplaying
Do you think they’ll add more iconic abilities later on like starfall, shadowstep, bladestorm, VT, water elemental, etc.?
what color and name should the forever version be?maybe some water or tree theme?
>>584529794memory?they'll be here in under a year
>>584529906Same way you dungeon while roleplaying.
>>584529914Yeah if you can get streamers to tweet at them about it they’ll do anything because that’s what their balance changes are based on
>>584529914>shadowstepI wish, they won't even add envenom, we get the cuck version instead
How is /ourguy/ Samwise? Is he safe? Is he alright?
>>584529968how abouta sex theme?
>>584528892With many being thousands of years old and judging by their flirt lines, they probably aren't subtle or ashamed about sex at all. No need to ask questions because everyone will hear them.
Tranny propaganda leaking from their prolapsed anuses
>>584530010dead
>>584529968Make them furless, and give them brown or black skin only.
Hunter has>serpent sting uptime>2 hawks uptime + arcane shot>raptor strike CD>strider kick CD>aimed shot CD>trap CD>mongoose bite RNG procDoes any other class have this much sovl?
>>584530003I think they might be saving it for Warden. same with fan of knives and cloak since it’s supposed to have a tank spec
>>584529914we haven't seen higher level content or items yet, and there has been teasing about things changing how your class plays, so either they are doing Diablo-like items (i.e. "Equip: Your Holy Strike is replaced by Divine Storm.") or reusing SoD engravings later, something like that
Summon ravenSummon insect swarm
>>584529186>troons out of nowhererent free
How'd that content patch in retail turnout All five minutes of content they gave youAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMake sure to stop by reddit and say, THANK YOU
>>584530240>retoilet
>>584530240Nobody here has any idea whats happening in retailshit. You're talking to yourself
Troons pretending they aren't shitting up the general with their propaganda, ick
My first instinct when i see a female Dranei is to go down on her. Am i alone in this bros? The
Imagine pretending to not be from the retail general when you're spamming the same exact images posted thereI know you're mentally retarded manchildren, but come on
>>584530314This race doesn't exist in forever and never will. Go back to wowg
so close to greatness
>>584530406they should have just removed forsaken instead
You paid or are going to pay thirty extra dollars for bad racials LOL
>>584530360You seem to know a lot about retail generals maybe you should go back
>>584529914if they add shadowstep i will make a rogue and spent my time ganking lvl 20s in hillsbrad as 60
>>584530406BLELFS
>>584530174melee weaving is not worth it because you wont have time to move in and out thanks to them making the CDs so short
>>584528974warcraft 3 is pretty good 1 and 2 are mehwow on alliance side is good for the onyxia stuff which goes all the way from lvl 1 to 60
>>584530478>bad racialsAfter all the nonstop crying and whining those things are going to be homogenized anywayThey barely matter right now, they won't matter at all by 2027
Wows writing is trash now because they hired too many women gays and troons.If you got rid of all of them and had only straight white males even though they're leftie freaks, the writing and game quality would go up 5x
stop projectingstop seethingstop stalking
>>584530610they have those and they worked on the wc3 dlc and it was the best written story blizzard has done since wotlk
I hate hunters so much, they have mindbroken me. I want to be a dedicated hunter rapistmage?
>>584530554I think the actual limiting factor is mana. And it's probably range weaving now, huntards have the best dual wield talent.
>>584530667Not many left around anymore
>>584530695warlockpet fights
>>584530667wotlk had shit story
>want to play Druid>tauren druids are second fiddle>male night elf is correct lorewise but their animations suck and everyone will make fun of me for being male>female night elf is gay and lore wrong but looks better>skelf is cancer
I want to be raped by female draenei or female nelfs and groomed into a loving relationship
>>584530804sounds homosexual in naturedid your mother take thalidomide when she was pregnant
What's an assassin rogues levelling build like? My blue elf (female) thirsts for goblin blood
>>584530774>everyone will make fun of me for being maleWhat, is everyone on alliance a fucking tranny?
>>584529094>isn’t the hunter spell to basically materialize (“call”) wild animals from nowhere to attack? It’s not their trained pet.some of the retail abilities summon a wild animal, some summon a random animal from your stables
Should I be playing melee Hunter instead of Rogue? It seems ludo, and OP I guess
>>584530550>sea elves instead of nagaI would be so pissed.
>>584530929Devs have said rogues are supposed to be the top of the dps charts, so if you want to go melee, go rogue or get the FUCK out of the raid faggot.
>>584530929right now melee hunter is higher dps. but who knows what changes will happen.i mean they said they wanted rogue to compete for top single target dps. surely they're getting something?
>>584530550Blanu Blelore Blela'na!
>>584530750there's no way, you're THE least mobile class up against the 2nd most mobile, your dots don't daze in cheetah, a good hunter can keep you completely out of range of all your spellsalso fear won't work on a bm hunter's petat least mage has a fighting chance with blink and nova
>>584529186> OGRE STOCKS UP> NAGA STOCKS UP> ETTHEREAL STOCKS UPGET FUCKED FURRY LOVERS
>>584530179I should roll Warden, FoK is such a fun spell. I love the times when FoK generates an assload of combo points on multiple targets and lets you funnel single target finishers. Warden is so specific to Nelf though, would they make Shadow Hunter a re-themed Horde equivalent? If not which Horde races would be appropriate as Wardens?
>>584531041Skyborne.
>>584531035read the wow diary by john staats and you will see naga are never becoming a playable race
>>584530761name good story>inb4 all shit
>>584530831I got that reference
>>584531109run that by me anon and dont tell me just because they wouldnt be able to use mounts
>>584531035recolored vulpera stocks are up a lot more they're not going to add a race they need to add new animations to
>>584530478Nah I got beta access from the Maccas promo. Skelves are very unappealing and retail coded to me, their gay customisation options remind me of the homo dragon human forms. I'm glad Blizz were shameful enough to give them mediocre racials at the very least
>Lay on Hands is now a 20min c/d>Reincarnation is still an hour and gives you barely any hp/mana stillFaggrend all over
You know what we need?More nelfs and draenei girls getting knotted
>>584531215by skelf druid girls
>>584530980>Devs have said rogues are supposed to be the top of the dps chartsThey didn't say that though. Is this just ESL stuff or what? They said Rogues SHOULD be top dps for STATIONARY, SINGLE TARGET encounters. If you're not prepared with consumes and/or shit you won't be top dps even in that specific scenario.
>>584531182I hope skelves are just an obvious retailer accommodation and see no representation at all in the game and their island is irrelevant and they’re just a ghetto race
>>584531168> they're not going to add a race they need to add new animations toi look forward to your apology when ogres come out
>>584530834It looks a lot like a combat rogue levelling build because levelling ass is bad. There aren't enough good, easily attainable daggers compared to the trillion sword options.
>>584530980>Devs have said rogues are supposed to be the top of the dps chartsthey did not say that you fucking retard
>>584531269>>584531335https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/rogues-will-have-the-highest-single-target-damage-in-wow-forever-383209
>>584531159all of the game's gear would have to be remade to fit them, specifically shoes and pants are a complete no goit's possible after 20 years they could change their mind and allow no visible pants (and capes? helmets?) but it was a pretty set in stone decision by the team
>>584531302If they ever do Ogres then they'll use the Kul'Tiran rig and animations. No way they do more than the absolute minimum bespoke work on a race that virtually no one will play.
>>584531159>dont tell me just because they wouldnt be able to use mountsthat's the answer though
>>584531369>jeet can't read
>>584531034nah your pet fights their petdont be a fag
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wow-forever-has-a-streamer-problem/....our response?
>>584531483I want to be a hunter rapist anon, I don't have time for your GAMES
>>584531517AI written article
>>584531417Isn't that also true of the fagdragons from the fagdragon expansion? They can't wear a bunch of gear other races can so they're just nude in those slots aren't they?
>>584531369>https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/rogues-will-have-the-highest-single-target-damage-in-wow-forever-383209The internet is done for. Most of the people we are engaging with a third worlders with no English comprehension. It's over.
>>584530314The smell of knotslop attracting you
>>584531517I didn't even know gamespot still existed
>>584531109>>584531417It doesn't seem THAT insurmountable.>spikes get in the wayGive the player model fewer spikes and/or shrink them enough that could be plausibly squished down by clothing.>no pants/feetTurn the pants into a crotchflap. Turn the boots into a tail ring.>mountsSling their tail to one side, same way women in dresses could ride horses.
>>584531417Surely they are just textures so all you have to do is map the textures on a naga model. Make the pants be some kind of loincloth and shoes can be something they have hanging off a belt as some kind of trinket
>>584529971Better ask what sort of twist they come up with.No way they will leave a perfectly fine rig with HD and SD models unused.
just make a community rule set for all the streamers and youtubers and ban anyone who makes content from any other realm
>>584531417That makes no sense because they didn’t do that for the horse races and shoes. And you act like remaking it would be a lot of work when it’s literally just a generic template for mapping a 2d texture. Especially since we’re just talking legs. Does classic even have a single pair of legs that isn’t just a generic texture colored over the model? I know boots have variety in the 3d modeling but legs are legs and translating them into just a tube texture that wraps around the naga like a bigger belt would be fine This sounds like hot air like people who think ogre magi having two hands makes the race impossible
>>584531653just remove face tentacles from females and add some furr textures and you get satyrs for horde
big HUGE nerfs coming later today
>>584531667This, just have a containment server like Rust or nopixel does where they can jerk each other off making their "content" and leave the rest of the people alone.
>>584531737Tauren would not be ok allying with Satyr
What classes should Ogre get anons?Also thrown in your wild card class that probably wont happen but would be funny, for me its rogue.
>>584531806Tauren are cucks who go along with whatever retarded shit the horde does
>>584531737Correct up until the horde part.Horde got the pretty race with skelves, alliance needs a beastfolks race.
>>584531806The satyr are demonic corrupted night elves. They’re just evil. It’s like wanting fel orcs or troggs.
>>584531623>>584531702All leg textures in the game are built to have a middle seam splitting it in two. As someone with experience doing modeling/texturing/UV editing, putting that texture on a single tube would look horrendous
>>584531829warrior, shaman, mage, warlock, hunterpriest
Balkanize the horde and alliance MORE SEGREGATIONMORE ETHNO NATIONALSIM
>>584531829warrior and mage and thats itwe really need more races that have more strict class optionswhat's the fucking point if everyone can do everything, the god damn nublizzard trying to spin opening more race class options up as if its some long awaited feature when in reality it was a very specific design decision
>>584531829Warrior and Mage are obvious. Warlock and Shaman have precedence in lore and WC3. Wildcard pick could be Priest if you want to extrapolate Twilight Hammer stuff.
>>584531829warrior, mage
>>584531829Paladin, druid, priest and warrior.
>>584531858Or Eredar, am I right?
Join <FUN HAVERS>ALLIANCE NA PvP? PvE???https://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)>only rule is you must have fun or else>will raid with fucking whatever / whenever>ill be running morning weekend raids>yfw having fun with other fun havers
>>584531829warrior, shaman, mage, warlockare all ogre mages and warlocks two headed?
>>584531891You don't have to map that part of the texture on the model
>>584531967Because their fan base is a bunch of obnoxious mentally checked out dads. Whenever this question comes up it’s always shit like >I played back when this game came out but now after twenty years yeah sure let’s have undead druids why not?I hope I get put down before whatever time bomb in the male brain goes off and turns me into this
>>584532067Yeah same as there are only female warriors and male druids in night elf society.Ingame we already have plenty one headed ogre casters.
>>584531891It would look like some of those armors that use pants texture on robe model.Anywho, naga with snake bottom half of their body is retarded idea anyway as a playable race.
>>584532129I was defending the technicalities of naga but I agree. Of the trio lady vashj and her naga was the most evil anyway
>>584532129Imagine the goofy jumping and knock down animations.
>>584532129I don't understand any calls to make Naga playable. Fucking Furbolgs have a better claim for playability than they do. Ogres barely make the cut, exclusively off the back of Rexxar's campaign.
>>584532045>are all ogre mages and warlocks two headed?yes
Player ogres would have to be the weakest smallest most pathetic tribe possible right? Similar to dark spear trolls?You can’t have the massive giant ogres be playable AlsoHow does a two headed ogre wear headgear in your mind?Clone the equipment for both heads?Or only one head wears the gear and the other has nothing
>>584532347Or their racial would be that they have two head slots.
>>584532347Closest you'll get is playable half ogres, that way they're smaller and only have 1 head. Blizzard can just size up the orc model a bit and make them orange-ish. They aren't going to do anymore work than that.
is there any lore for why horde stopping having ogres?
wheres the new patch?
I will never stop asking for roided up water snake-men with tridents.
female anons owe me dates in wow
>>584532507they didn't like Thrall as warchief
>>584532507Ogres were never in the warcraft 3 horde. The old warcraft 1-2 horde still has ogres, they're the ones in blackrock mountain
>>584532447this poster is jewish
>>584532347Ogres have a pretty big size range, so that isn't really an issue. Tauren sized Ogres would be fine, there are ogres smaller than Tauren that wouldn't cause issues.>>584532507They didn't? Even in retail they got more ogres and gronn from the retarded Mag'har timeline thing.
>>584532507Apparently undead made for better allies.
human male paladin
what the game really needs is race specific armor variants of everything but they would never do this because of retail
>>584532587with your real name
oh god survival is kino this can't be happening i can't roll hunter
>>584532587Sigmar lightens my steps
>>584532573Rexxar conscripted the Stonemaul Clan. They're based in Dustwallow Marsh and are allied to the Horde.>>584532668>add a bleed capstone talent to survival hunter>mongoose bite scales with weapon damage>survival hunter wants to dual wield>you literally swap to a 2 hander to drop mongoose bite then re-equip your dual wield for maximum DPSIt's time to subscribe to kino anon-chama.
there BETTER be some juicy changes in the patchnotes when I get back home, enough to ruin the disgusting RMT-fest that is the pvp tourney
>>584532762>21 second bleed from an ability that you hit twice within 10 seconds>it does not stackamazing
>>584532829I wouldn't take it over Hawks + Rapid Fire CD reduction, but depending on calcs you might.
>>584532762Would be actually kino to have a spec meant to weapon swap like that and you could see all the weapons sheathed - on the back and on the hips.I mean, regular hunters with their ranged and melee weapons come to mind, but I guess that would be too hard for them to do.
>>584532924surely they will change it or switch it for a new capstonesurely
>>584531958Eight faction split!>Alliance: human, dwarf, gnome, high elf>Horde: orc, troll, tauren, ogre>Night Elf: nelf, dryad, furbolg, mini-ancients>Forsaken: ded human, darkfallen, crypt fiend, worgen>Illidari: belf, naga, broken, satyr>Scourge: extra pale humans, san'layn, vrykul, drakkari>Black Empire: qiraji, mantid, k'thir, belf (the b stands for barefoot)Good fucking luck getting a group together.
>>584529186>Broken>High Elves>Goblinborne>WolfboundJust change the colour and make them $30 (plus tip). Microblizz will cave when they see the $$$ they could.
>>584532945>two one-handers and a two-hander, which takes your ranged weapon's slotthis would be really fucking cool if you could throw your one handers when using a ranged skill but that would require way too much work for blizzard to do
I am once again asking for the perfect anti-hunter class and build
>>584533370Druid. Hibernate the pet, heal through their damage until they get bored and fuck off.
>>584532945>Hunters dreaming about a spec revolving around meleenweapon swapYour greed disgusts me
> see roach kings video on retoilet> they killed off liadrian and had the power of friendshipHoly fuck thank god we have forever and a new timeline, retoilet truly is HR karen game
>>584532347just make them tauren sized>How does a two headed ogre wear headgear in your mind?I'd probably have one head wear the actual armor and the other just get a little decoration depending on the armor worn (like a headband or circlet or whatever)
>>584533740>he thinks forever will be different
>>584533740Why is killing the girlboss a bad thing now?
>>584533816It was a really stupid death.
>>584533740>yfw this was the plan all along, to make forever so they wouldn't lose subs from the chuds getting mad over killing their waifu in the patch
>>584528757Don't worry -- rogues are fucking awful, got the least from wotlk-era, and have only received vague assurances about eventually being good at single-target dps. Your hunter can get all the leather and melee weapons that rogues won't be using, because they won't be playing. Hunters got the most, as an entire class, in terms of abilities, talents, quality of life, and mechanics from wotlk, so this will no doubt be another Aggrend game in which they're completely busted.
>>584533740>every man is a low IQ warmonger who either dies and/or sees the foolishness of his ways>every woman is wise and level-headed leader who teaches the men to be better
>>584533816its not just that, its the way they did it and all the fucking karen talking holy shit
>>584534027hunters still have a deadzone
>>584534056yep, its genuinely pathetic.
>>584534128survival hunters will still have the best ranged damage of any melee so in most fights their dmg up time will be almost 100%
>>584534128that's good though, it makes them more interesting to play.
>>584529971>he thinks this will survive for more than 6 months max
>>584529186>announcing our newest race… Sky Goblins!
>>584533804good unintentionally poignant post because the pictured anime also initially promised to be different with its apparently sadistic main character but they quickly wrote the entire concept out and just made it generic trash for wide appeal instead
You know what i wanted from Classic +? NEW FUCKING CLASSES. THATS WHAT BLIZZARD. I WANT TO BE A BADASS TROLL AXE THROWER. I DONT WANT TO BE A BLUE ELF
What's your favourite class fantasy spell? For me it's shamans far sight and water walking
>>584534286wow forever has killed retail and buried it. the hype around it is eclipsing 2019 classic
>>584529968YOOOOO SOMEONE CALL A BARISTABECAUSE I NEED TO ORDER A PLAPPACHINO FOR DIS VULP SLAVE
I demand upright Orcs so I can larp as a Blademaster
>>584531958Based
>>584534351New classes? I hear retail has a lot of those. Or you can just wait for the next CoA to get spun up by some slavmonkey and shut down by BlizzjewGODS four months after that.
>>584534128>enter hunters "dead zone">immediately crit with a 1k raptor strike>slowed harder than a warrior hamstring>stunned for 30 seconds OR set on fire for 1k damage OR perma aoe slowed with a chance to rootoh yeah woe on them, if you enter the hunters dead zone you are guaranteed to be dead
are you guys enjoying your SoD 2 5000 chatgpt quests edition(tm) beta????
>>584533740Listen niggerThe same people writing retail and writing forever new content
>>584534510>he entered the melee range instead of the dead zone
>>584534573I hope they write a character that tells me it's going to be okay
>>584534615forever normalised melee range + leeway > dead zone
I know a lot of people want pooever to succeed because they want to do something with their time in their lives, but I'm sorry, blizzard will fuck this one up too like they fucked up the last 99 wow reboots they tried to make, no amount of chatgpt generated quests can save this company
ALEX YOU PEA BRAINED NIGGERPUT MORE THAN 5 MINUTES OF THOUGHT INTO YOUR FAGGOT VIDEOS no one gives a FUCK about your shower thoughts
>>584534437stealth
But are there any goon guild in wow forever?
>20 days until fresh
Last patch today bros. Will they fix everything?
>>584530725let me just get that 20% hit for my offhand to not miss bro it will happen for sure this time it will be a real melee hunter spec trust
>>584535303They're going to break everything because they've already announced plans for balance patches for the next 6 months. Don't forget to redeem your gametime cards!
>>584535303im so excited to see how they'll fuck it up this time
>>584535303AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHAHAHAHAthey broke the bag sorting function yesterday
>>584535303>last patchThe patch should be pretty expansive then right?
>>584535303Seems more likely they'll just break more shit like minimaps and bags
>>584535303they are going to change everything for the launch again and every week there is going to be a patchimpossible to predict anything really, its going to be the wild west
>>584535303I hope they nerf all the meta classes for the gay tournament and fix all the bugs streamers were going to abuse
>>584535585The only thing they're going to work on from now till launch is adding as many queer gender swaps to quests as they canThey're going to force you to ignore dungeons and if you don't want the faggot brainwashing you have to ignore quests
>>584535697Im going to just farm mobs anyways
>>584535585Sounds great. I miss the constant patch lottery of a game in active development. I'm really lucky so my class is going to be great.
>>584534510freezing trap is 10 seconds nigger>chance to rootbased retard god does not even read the talents of the class he is complaining about
So after weeks on beta and data mining sites i conclude that Forever is not a Classic or Classic+ at all. It has changed so much in classes and how game worked that it feels like completely different game, the mix of retail (qol, engine changes, new features), wotlk (ease of leveling) and cata (zone and visual rework)For whom was this even made. All I see on Twitter and in the game are people already addicted to wow. It's not a WoW For Newcomers at all. But it's not Classic either. So... why?
>>584536113This is just SoD but with 30$ price tag for Blue Elves.
>>584535937You are completely right to push back on that! Freezing trap really is only a 10 second stun!
>>584535937It's 20s (26s talented)
deport ziqo and his snowbunny gf back to africa
SKYHIGH QUALITY AT ROCK BOTTOM PRICES!
>>584535303blanket nerfs on all horde racials (streamers & devs play alliance), mage/hunter/paladin buffs (streamers & devs play these classes), warlock/druid ignored, warrior/shaman/priest nerfs
>>584536213why was SoD 0 fun while Forever is some fun then?
>>584536213It's actually a worse version of SoD because they didn't port many of the positive changes over lol they made all those changes, collected all the feedback and threw it all in the garbageclassic blizzard, completely leaderless
>>584534996wut happend? He said this time he is very serious about content/schedule, then dropped beta and played dat ugly af indiemmo and today wasnt even online. I mean promises promises
>>584536449sod was literally an outlet for the most edge case and retarded ideas blizzard could come up with as an experiment to try find the next SOMETHING for their franchise, which turned out to be forever
Does the beta really end next week? What are we supposed to do until release then I don't get it
>>584536113Actually it's classic+sod*wotlk-retail
>>584536449sod was very fun and very successful for 1 or 2 months and forever is going to be the same.
>>584528776*plays a game made by the same retail devs*
>>584536736it wasn't nearly as successful as Forever is thoughI give Forever a year or so
>>584529904Literally everyone wanted Blood Elf function though?
>>584536696On paper it's supposed to be the quiet before the storm where they can fully focus on last finishing touches and overall preparation for the launch. However it is clear forever is currently completely undercooked.What it really needs is 3 months of extra beta with the level cap removed so the game can actually be tested
>>584535568I don't even undertans how this happens. Why do things break that have been working for decades? Espcecially considering they just copy pasted a working client
>>584531958This is the only right answer. Fitting anything into a two Power-Block world has been nothing but devastating for the world (of warcraft).
>>584536930probably updated some underlying framework or something and deemed the bugs acceptable for now to keep the train rolling
>>584531829Rogue, Monk, Evoker, Demon Hunter
Is Anger Management worth the 5 wasted points on Improved Tactical Mastery as Prot?
>>584536841>What it really needs is 3 months of extra beta with the level cap removed so the game can actually be testedYeah let's just have everyone play the beta for 3 months and then quit because they don't want to start all over again when the game actually launches
>>584537031>wastedProbably some of the most useful talent point you can spend. Perhaps not 5. Maybe 3 or 4. Anger management is meh as prot.
>>584535419It's been broken since thursday's patch last week.
>>584537031It only really exists to switch to battle stance for overpower
I want to play druid but it’s too popular.
>>584531967>warrior and mage and thats itI agree with your general point about making races feel unique but there are Ogre shamans everywhere. They come from Draenor, where everyone practises Shamanism. There are also warlocks in the same way there are orc warlocks.
>>584537468dw Moonfire autoattacking will filter ppl before 20
>>584537468lol
>>584537031nonothing you stance dance as prot requires much rageintercept, mocking blow, berserkers rage, you get 10 or 15 rage saved base line
>>584532507horde literally have ogres in vanilla - the Stonemauls. They just aren't playable.
>>584537063Just let us keep progress then
>>584537468Dungeon finder will fix this
Luckily you don't have to fight lunaclaw as a druid, just talk to the ghost
>>584537031I just imagined a Cat walking by my House with a cape and dracula teeth and saying "Dracuwa!" and putting his arms out. Then I come to the thread and see this.
>>584537707but the ghost spawns after it dies
>>584537641Then it's not a beta, it's early access
cant decide if i want to play druid or shaman on launch
>>584536841That's the classic experienceDid you already forget about blizz overhauling every class in vanilla after release?
>>584538257>every class*coughs in shaman*
>>584538086was the cats name Jimmy?
>>584538245play druid
>>584538245go fem nelfie druid if ur alliance, your AGP wont allow you to play dwarf
>>584538286I don't think so. I do not get the reference /v/ro.
>>584538236I don't care what you call it I just want to play now and keep my shit
>>584538257you would imagine they managed to learn anything after having had the series live for over two decades
>>584538086Did it have a megaphone?
>>584538343I'm not a tranny, im a real woman
>>584538343I'll go Skelf because i paid $90 for it, so I may as well use it.
>>584538432No, just a Dracula costume with vampire teeth and cape.
is we finna pay some chinese guy to skip the boingass 1-55 grind for us???
>>584538437Play shaman bro. I found it more fun in beta
>>584538245shaman is poggers
>>584538481Damn straight homie! Fuck this whipepo grind!
The person I want to play WoWever with;Tall Red Haired Woman with pale skin, fweckles, prominent front teeth, and prominent clavicle.We can level Elves together... and have double complementary professions...
creepy cringe spam appearsthat means a rotting tranny axewound has entered the general
>>584538678yeahyou
>>584538573>and have double complementary professions...That's actually a fun challenge idea, you can only use what your partner finds and vice versa.
>>584538481you understand that the journey is a big part of the fun right?
>>584538360https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4USJ2U8uy8
>curse of tongues are mind numbing poison make your GCD 2.5 seconds instead if your just your spell cast speedhow did blizzard manage to fuck this up on the beta
>>584538773that anon is a retardbut you do understand that for some, the journey is running dungeons with their pals right?
>>584538826Lol never saw this. Good find.
>>584538773you understand that 10 new quest chains isn't enough to make the same leveling experience I've done dozens of times any more fun this time right?
>>584538361too bad
>>584538773but what if.... what if everyone has done the journey dozens of times over, and we're all just racing to the end game stuff while ignoring the social aspect and any kind of situation that might be deemed an XP loss?
Stress-test will be perfect for setting up my addons and UI before launch day
>reeee fuck the journey I don't want to do quests againYou do know you don't have to play the game, right? You could just play another mobile gacha instead
>>584538481>sites already offering forever leveling from 1-60 for 250 USDThought it was much more expensive when I last checked it around classic era.
>>584539008I'm curious if us betards will have to install it separate or not.
>>584539067Stress-test folder is named forever
>>584538826I was imagining a black cat, but this is a very cute video.
>>584539052probably got decent AI levelling that shit now. No need to have chang sitting at the computer 24/7
no you
>>584538773>the journey>someone starts talking at a campfire?>/ignore>someone is grinding the same quest mobs as you?>/ignore>someone is moving parallel to you in the same direction?>/ignoresimple as
What was 2004 /wowg/ like?
>>584539261Full of human garbage, same as today.
am i insane or does the sun rise and set on the same coast
>>584539067well when you go to it does say install or does it say play. with no beta, my install was only 30-40gb, so I'm wondering if they managed to curtail some of that retail bloat or if it's just a truncated version of the beta client.
>>584539330west coast is hella best coast
Do you work nights? Are you a morning person?<Daybreak Company> is casual raiding guild that will be formed on launch day. We are currently recruiting for a core 20m raid group that will be ready to raid once raids open in December.>NA-RP / Alliance>Raid times will be 530-830am CST Saturday (20m) and Sunday (10m)>SR loot, no loot council/DKP corruption>Meta builds, consumables, world buffs not required>New guild, blank slate>Tabard will be created day 1I'm not very active in the beta but I'll post this intermittently up to launch day.https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X
>>584539364(((puke)))
>>584539261it didn't exist until some time in MoP
>>584539261basically the same except the porn came in low res gifs
>>584539384>5am on a saturday and sundayeven people that work at night sleep in on their days off
>>584539364
WoW: Night Elf Male DruidEverquest: Wood Elf Male DruidDark Age of Camelot: Elf Male Mentalist
>>584539142this is great, no need to copy paste any folders for launch
still torn do I want: -mage for aoe farming-warlock for solo dungeon farm-play a tank for easy comfy dungeon groups
>>584539515Monsters and memories??
>>584539545Anon-chan told me aoe farming got nerfed?
>>584538773journeyfags are the minorityThe majority of players are braindamaged and all they want is get to 60 and get their bis to "complete" their character, it satisfies their autism
>>584539515>Mentalchecks out.
>>584539545a tank can do all 3 of those things in forever
ngl im proly going to get bored after a week at lvl 60 and uninstall
man, FUCK skelves
>>584539261it was #worldofwarcraft in Quakenet
>>584539608what can i do to convince you to do that last thing much earlier
>>584539545geared tanks can pull 10+ mobs and solo elites
>>584539545prot is probably better for all those things. and if pvp, definitely prot, get woyer out of the way now.
>>584539608we already got bored at level 30 and didnt even bother with bis
>>584539567Monsters & Memories: Wood Elf Male Druid
>>584532403Kino
>>584539631>man, I want to FUCK skelvesFixed That For You
>>584539569I aoe farmed just fine, not crazy meme pulls but 6-8 green mobs are totally doable
>>584539738prot warrior can do 8-10 yellows at once and come out with full hp
>>584539738>>584539807its just pointless to pull more than 4
>>584539892I must deny the journeyshitters their quest mobs and drops though.
>>584539892not pointless if you have to take a fucking break after every fucking pull to drink 10 liters of fucking water
>>584539749trvkewe cant go back
>>584539807no way this is not geting nerfed r-right fellas.....
>>584539982just do 2 4 pulls
how much would i regret going herb alch on launch...
>>584540229fast to level upmakes a lot of money because everyone else needs your dyes to craft those amazing new leveling BoPsit will still slow you down but maybe you dont care about rushing to 60
it's about the journey>gets camped by a 60 rushing sweat
>implying journeytrannies arent all rolling on RP
>>584539261I once did a search through the oldest archives for fun and this was the first thread mentioning WoW / WarCraft in the OP I could findoriginal image is lost btw, it just shows le trollfaes for any thread from that period
>>584540290well its either that or lw+skinning on my shamit bums me out that alch doesnt really have bops but based on the charts nobody is taking it so it could be nice mone
I barely played the beta. I will decide what I'm doing on launch when I get to the login screen
>>584540290>everyone else needs your dyes to craft those amazing new leveling BoPsnobody is farming turn intos to craft leveling blues theyll replace later that day.the only reason people crafted those is because the beta is capped at 20 and 30, otherwise they would never be crafted at all
>>584540229A lot. You'll want to go Skin/Leather until you can get the legacy point for reaching 150, then you'll want to drop them for Tailor/Enchanting to disenchant the gear and put your cloth to use making more to enchant/disenchant to get those legacy points at 150, then drop those for the professions you want so you have 4 legacy points right out of the gate.
>>584540401it might end up the min/max pick at lvl60 with the throwing potions
>>584538773killing boars with my incomplete class moveset is some sick gameplay
>>584540469>4 legacy points right out the gateoh boy i cant wait for my 8% faster rested xp generation
>>584540423that's a dangerous game.... fren.
>>584540395the flame of youth still burns in the archives..
>>584540469>4 legacy points right out of the gate>after spending 20 hours fiddling with proffs
>>584540423honesty based
>>584540102Tanks were already good enough in the original to manage threat but for some reason they almost doubled their damage so now they're doing dps damage while being tanky... (palas got spell damage and new strike; warrs rend, revenge, and thunder clap scaling; and bears mangle and swipe scaling)
all the 60 rushers will be the ones providing endgame feedback first and will warp the game around themselvesforever dies on raid release when it's far too hard for the average cryboom (just like tbc and wotlk)
Imagine playing melee as alliance and never getting windfury in your groups lmaoo
is the dalaran dungeon any good i never bothered doing it
>>584540784there's dwarf shaman now tardo
>>584540784>all melees will be at least 10% under what they are balanced to be>no one plays casters>hunters will rule as the no1 dps on alliance
>>584540850I don't think he stuttered, mate.
>>584540819worse dungeon blizzards released yet
>>584540784>tfw playing dorf shamaneveryone is going to love me so much i can make so many friends i will have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>584540850sorry but submissive AGP sluts who are majority of alliance wont be playing dwarfYou will have plenty of female nelf/human druids/priests/paladins tho
>>584539950basedgodspeed soldier
who is this for
>>584541059casual shitter dadgamer
>>584540997if I play alliance, dwarf is the only thing I would playmaybe moustache night elf at a stretch
>>584540673i'm going to enjoy the first season of tank pvp so much until all the pvpers cry out in pain and they nerf it..
Tanks are too overpowered in open world mob grinding.They need to nerf them.
>>584541257Based fellow Moustache Night Elf Enjoyer
>>584541214better than catering to the bottom and top 10% like retoilet tho
Flurry>Increases your melee attack speed by 25% for your next 3 swings after dealing a melee critical strike.Down from 30% on era, has a 3 swing cap, requires a critical hit. Meanwhile hunters get 30% for 12 seconds on any hit. I bet this shit has near perfect uptime.
>>584541059ngl theres something about bellular's physiognomy that gives me the biggest ick ever, he's so unbelievable ugly and weird lookinglike I can just imagine him asking "where's my hug" and its so fucking gross I want to see him beat up viciously
>>584541283how about no
>>584541368on their pets retard
>>584539807Only with 10 legacy points.
>>584541378so true sis, one of the few guys i wouldn't blow either, even though my dysphoria was induced by hentai so i love very ugly men.
>>584541368If things stay as they are, no one is going to play anything but mage or hunter as a dps class lol
>>584541446There is zero text in that ability that says "on your pet" you faggot. Pets also don't have ranged auto attacks.
>>584541459no, its entirely doable without legacy points.
>>584540993I imagine playing dwarf shaman in a place like tanaris is constantly getting whispered "hey wanna come do ZF"
>>584541529But muh classes don't come online until heckin 40rino!11!1
>>584541446retardbro...
>>584541552i was too lazy to click your picture and figured you meant the bm furyeither way your still a retard
>>584541590>imagine being loved by the communityoh no i cant take this much wanting!!!!!
>>584541318Sad I can't have a mustache on skelves
Do you think we will get dark iron dwarves added as customization for dorfs?
>>584541368>nooo nooo the same talent that has existed for 20+ years is now busted>but but melee attack speedyou arent playing melee bro
so i've heard a lot of young people are joining us this go again, what are the odds that us 40 year old neets are going to find a wife or boywife
>>584541950they already have grey skin options
>janky half assed "SD" models in a game they described as "classic plus">"the world is the main character" meaning the world is split up into countless mini instances you will constantly phase inbetween>ridiculous blue elves and not what makes sense, brought to you by metzen’s ego>"the "journey" is one of our pillars but we're going to gut the way half of you enjoy the journey">game releases in 2 weeks and most focus is on a level fucking 30 pvp tournament organised by and for parasitic streamerswew lad, if this hasnt just been fumble after fumble. I knew nu-blizz were incompetent, but I didnt think it was this bad. This could be a tortanic, really.
Glad i had the beta to get world pvp out of my system.pvp servers are basically fomo, you feel like you're missing a feature by not rolling on one, but the feature is just an annoyance so you can never relax in zones higher than lvl 20.Leveling 4 characters to level 30 i never had a fair fight in open world pvp, not a single one.
>>584541865>2004 nu-metal beardsBlizzard really taking us back
>>584541865Yep, closest we got is the full goatee. A Whimsical moustache on Skelves would be good.
I just want to be a Bear Druid but Fury instead of a tank - is that so much to ask for.
>>584541590I'm gonna play dwarf shaman hoping that we get dranei or something alongside paid race change down the line
>>584542179Best you can expect is bear-weaving as feral dps, though they're already trying to kill that.
warlock pre 10 is so ass.....
>>584528520>>584529971BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP
>>584542016People love Forever and no amount of your malding will change that.
>>584542259one of the best
>>584542259you'll live
ALEXENSUAL GAVE YOU CLASSIC WOW AND CLASSIC PLUSWHAT DID YOU GIVE HIM IN RETURN
>>584542449/ignore/block/report
>>584542259Half of the classes pre-10 are ass. Several are ass pre-20 like warrior and rogue.
>>584542195Alliance should get furbolgs as shaman race. Theres already a shitload of furbolg content coming in hyjal and the rumored timbermaw megadungeon
>>584542179>i just want to be cocaine bearMe too, druidbro. Me too.
How do I convince my group to play horde? We played alliance on anniversary, but that shit is too gay, I want to play as monsters in huts, fuck
>>584542259Just get a wand asap.
>>584542259what class, except hunter, feels good pre 10?
>>584541970>spoilerkys FAGGOT
shaman seems so fun but im really scared it'll become a massive chore to lvl 40+ and ill get dejected and regret not just going druid
>>584542541If they're tryhards, convince them horde racials are OP. If they're casuals, convince them the questing is more laid back.
>>584542620you'll be happier just going druid
>>584542580Paladin is pretty sweet, druid's not bad.
blizzard is going to focus on making raids in forever so mechanically complex that you can clear them in slop gear but if you try and zerg it you lose
>>584542580Priest feels just as good pre 10 as at level 30
>>584542580mage
Rare transmog bug
>slutty twink top for skelvesFrazetta would be proud.
>>584542830they will code in a hidden dps or maybe loot multiplier depending how long did you take to reach lvl60if you dont embrace the journey then you will do no dps and get no loot from raids
>>584542509Rogue is kinda ass pre-64
>>584542580Hunter is THE worst class pre-10
>>584542953no, theyre just going to make mythic level raids but tune the health down instead of stripping mechanics out
>>584542580It's only an issue for WL for me since I'll delete and remake the character if a demon name is really bad.
>>584542620Shaman is barely a class outside restro. You exist to one shot people with rng in pvp and that's it. It's a one button class if you're not healing.
>>584542982only if you don't know the absolute basics of kiting, downplayer-kun
What classes are fastest/slowest to level solo?
>>584543035>You'll take Shoosnot and like him damnit!
Any warriors tested Bloodthrill out yet? Cba levelling my warrior to 30 but want to know if arms is dead on arrival.Does it proc on all melee attacks or just white hits?Does it reliably proc on most mobs you fight?Is it useful in PVP or too clunky?
>>584543368>leveling a warrior>isnt going prot?
for someone who is new to wow and has no nostalgic attachment to previous iterations of the game, why would someone like that play wow forever instead of retail?
>>584543368Yes, Somewhat, and I haven't touched PVP
>>584543471Forever is easier to get into.Retail has just too many baggage over the years.
>>584543164isnt enhance supposed to be decent damage
>>584543346Any question about strongest, fastest, easiest etc. when it comes to solo-play can be answered with Hunter.
>>584543471retail is impossible to get into if going blind
kill the green rat
>>584543461Sweeping Strike + WW carries the entire Warrior levelling experience and is the most satisfying combo in the game.I will probably switch between all 3 specs levelling though just so I don't get bored.
>>584543224Other classes don't have to bother with that.
>>584543654>kill 25 green ratsFTFY
>>584543584Enhance is fine and pretty fun to play. That guy calling it a one button spec is probably a male human paladin
>>584543164>You exist to one shot people with rng in pvp and that's it.that is enough for me
>>584543590What about slowest?
>>584543471Retail is by far the worst WoW to start as new player.
>>584543471It's like saying why would you watch Lord of the Rings when you can watch Rings of Power
>>584543830Any heal spec while solo.
>>584542542stupid world of wandcraft.... for real
>>584543830non prot warriorthen rogue and druid
>>584543471retail requires 0 social interaction, has absolute braindead and mind numbing content and gameplay, you can basically sleep from level 1 up to and including raids without ever saying a word or be in any danger of dying.For the remaining 0.1% of the game it has genuinely challenging stuff and overall more in-depth mechanical gameplay. But for it you will just see everything you have already done again.Forever is still very easy, but it does at least require you to engage with the game and other people across the whole thing in some way.
>>584543912Retail is the AI summary of Lord of the Rings until you reach max level which is the latest season of Rings of Power.
>>584543584i cant wait for posters like this to get bored and demoralized over the next 6 months and i get to watch every second of it, you guys are like Christmas morning every day
Are there any fem dwarf faces that are hot? Might make a shaman.
>>584541261I'm going to put so many lacerates on rogues and see them lose the life in their eyes as frenzied regen restores 8k life.
>>584543584I'm in the same boat as you. I'll share my concerns and see if they help you:Shaman>Elemental is arguably the worst spec in the game right now. Terrible tree, terrible capstone, removed their iconic vanilla ability in EM.>Enhancement got some nice upgrades, but bizarrely Blizzard have kept this halfway-house of "is it a tank or not?" theme.>Resto actually looks great, but it's very boring because all of the "new" stuff is actually just TBC/WotLK abilities.Druid>Nice changes for tanking, Bear still lacks big cooldowns to mitigate damage but has become even better at everything else>I only ever used Cat for stealth/openers so not really a cat player. From what I can tell it's objectively better outside of power shifting autism>Balance is objectively better for both pvp and pve than vanilla, unlike Shaman Ele>Resto Druid similar to Resto Shaman, got useful new stuff but nothing ground breaking>Worst thing about Druid is the new spell/healing requirement; they've gutted Druid being a true hybrid unless you gear for everything which is basically impossible.
Era fresh doko ni aru?
>>584544464SHOTGUN BLAST TO THE FACEOOOOO THAT'S GOTTA HURT
How easy will it to find raids as an resto shaman ? Will it be auto-invite even on horde side bc 80% of shamans will want to be enh ?
ERA IS THRIVING
>>584544464there is maybe 2 that arent hot or cute
>>584544618>see blue elf>slash ignore /slash spitthis easy
>human mage>first name real name + -us>last name Rextime for some fucking warcraft
>>584534351Small indie dev team, please understand
>>584544618yes raids will be always looking for healersmaybe not on alliance RP, those are always full of healers because women
>>584544618Thanks to dualspec all ele pvp shamans will be pve resto shamans for easy gearing in raids.
>>584534351New classes and new races are not content.They will not make the experience any different when I play Human Male Warrior once again.
>>584543830>What about slowest?disc or holy priest maybe, though it'll be a steady grinder (Especially disc)
>>584544464Most of the HD faces are cute in their own way. There's 2/3 SD faces that are pretty cute, including one that gives them very large lips which balance their broad face well.
>>584544848parse trannyopinion discardedgo play circle hop scotch in retail where you belong
forever needs m+
>>584542982>learn some 2h skill and use whatever white 2h weapon you can find>learn only concussive and arcane shot(it scales now) to save cash>learn how to kiteCongrats, now you can rape absolutely everything on sight and have fun instead of waiting for things to happen because you class has no good abilities yet.
>>584538245Tried both in beta, shaman was way more fun. Might change at level 60 though, so take it with a grain of salt.
>>584543346shaman is the worst in actual vanilla, then paladin (paladin quite fast to 30 and even 40 though), then probably questing on magefastest is aoe farm mage, hunter, rogue
>>584545053absolutely not
>>584544464just never take your helmet off
>>584545132shaman is one of the best, you are just giga bad at mana management
>>584541957>the same talent that has existed for 20+ years is now bustedYes, it is busted. Simply put before the attack speed boost wasn't very impactful because casting hunter abilities would prevent your auto shot from triggering until the cast was completed. Now hunters automatically use auto shot, even while casting. If you don't see how that takes something that didn't matter, and turns it into something way too strong for a t1 talent then you might be retarded.
>>584532793I like this picture alot can I save it?
Every time i step away for 5 minutes i think of my lovely druid.Then i am reminded about druid pvp which is extremely sweaty and just peaks at spamming insect swarm and running away until the target dies and i begin to cry
>>584543728You can kill multiple targets as a prot warrior way before you're high enough to talent sweeping strikes. You take less damage as prot, and have better aoe damage.
>>584542259Druid is even worse because you can't wand
>>584543471If no nostalgic attachment, skip both
>>584545056>lEaRn 2 KiTe bRoYou are level 5.You shoot enemies and facetank them and complete your quests. Nobody cares that you figured out a 10 seconds faster way to go from level 8 to 10.
you guys better tell me the broken goldmaking tricks once the game comes out
Should I play the pvp server like an idiot just because some friends want to play it because they're dadgamer idiots or should I go play the pve server alone and relax and not play with my friends goddamn it
think im gunna play blue elf shamanis rfc worth doing on launch do you think or do I just skip dungeons besides maybe ruins
>>584544670Looks like the s&box sausage people
I hope we have a patch day every week in live with sweeping changes every time. I want to see>wtf I rolled [class] because it was the best and now it sucks?????
>>584545457yeah fuck your retarded friends, pvp will make you quit or reroll pve
>>584545319I can't fucking wait to try that beefed up shield slam. Revenge+slam some motherfucker into the ground for less than 20 rage.
They took the "world" out of WoW and replaced it with instances.Reddit is melting down over this.
>>584545284balance pvp is loads of fun in forever? Have you even tried it..
>>584545464kill yourself huotroon
>>584545576is it possible to learn this power and level balance?
>>584543471Retail isn't a game. It's exclusively good for challenging yourself in high difficulty content. The lore, the social aspect, the story, the meaning of anything else you do there has been completely destroyed.
>>584545446The difference between kiting and doing it the lazy way is staggering, you go from being shittier than a druid to being a god.1-10 is a such a frustrating experience as a hunter so anything to improve that is worth trying.
>>584545539>muh scary pvp
wait this game launches right when Americans have to vote for their midterms?
I want to play as much shadow priest as possible at max level while still healing raids/dungeons if required. The only thing I’m anxious about is gearing… i don’t wanna be a shitty shadow priest in PvP because I got disc-cucked into a bunch of purples that are only good for heals. is this a reasonable fear or not
>>584545676im cute irl you'd probably simp for mealso not a troon
>>584545874yes you get gear for your role in raidsBUTnot many people play clothies so it wont be that long until you start to get shadowpriest piecesand you can probably craft epics, or buy from a rep vendor, maybe even 5mans will have epic drops
>>584545457can't believe you'd even ask that desu. Clearly they aren't your actual friends if you're even considering playing without them. If my friends wanted to play pve I would, even though I prefer pvp. Sorry to sound like a normoid but this game is infinitely better when you play with people you know.
>>584545963ORGRIMMAR
Alliance shaman looks like that ?
>>584545457Play with your friends but play druid or rogue.
aaaaaaaaaaa I can't deicde between warlock or warrior
>>584545874Cozy up to a tank daddy and simply don't invite cloth DPS to your groups.
>>584545539sigh... i dont have a choice>>584546003yea, just venting i guess... hopefully can transfer to pve a few months from release
>>584545457do the right thing and play with your friends BUT make a chill alt on RP as a backup for when your idiot dadgamer friends inevitably quit before they hit level 30.
>>584546112No like this.
>>584546112Why can't femdwarves look like this?
>>584546112kino>>584546294hideous
>>584546112I wish I looked like this
>>584546112slop>>584546294based
>>584546128for me its lock and mage and shaman
I'm still mad about how fucked alliance warlocks are.
WE MUST BE BETTER ELVES
>>584546459God retail is cringe
>>584546458horde rogues have it worse.
>>584546459wait a second this isn't WoW Forever
FemDwarf shaman are based
>>584546459DAS RIGHTwhen a strong troll woman speaks, you white man chuddy will be silent and listen
https://x.com/icyveins/status/2110661513975623731I can't stand world pvp fags. All you want to do is kill lowbies and invade opposite faction cities in a raid group. It's fucking boring after your first time doing it.
>>584546579They don't, and even if they did rogues can pick their fights in wpvp.
>>584546625>all you want to do is have fun. UGH. what does this have to do with parsing? do you have any idea how much world pvp would cut into my xp/hr?
>>584545874In TBC we had cloth gear with +shadow damage which was gear exclusive for spriests, I'm pretty sure they will add some in forever too, it's literally free gear
>>584546579>Horde Rogues>Just stay away from humans when their short buff is up lmao>Alliance Warlock>fuck your stuns, fuck your curses, fuck your DoTs lmao get cucked dumb fuck
Blizzard as a company is so lazy and borderline retarded it is amazing always 6-12 months too late on every trendblanked on dotablanked on tower defenceblanked on hero defenceblanked on wow classicblanked on hardcoreblanked on wow classic againfucked up starcraft after WOLDiablo completly gets bodied by PoE1 and 2they always get 3rd party passion projects to do their dirty work/market testing and then take over......
>>584546625You know, I could gank lowbies for hours.
>>584546625fuck off back to retail lil gupnobody wants your arenas/rbgs, that shit flopped years ago on 'toilet
how dead is retail does anyone actually play iti remember back when people were saying that xiv had the same population as retailthe rwf streams have to be botted too right, are 50000 people really watching max sit around doing nothing while they run 30 split raids
>>584546459Reminder that these same people will be writing the new content for WoWF.
>>584546625look, all I want is the ability to see what layer my friends are on and to be able to MANUALLY select what layer I'm on, once an hour, if I have to return to my capital city to do so, that's fine, but how it works now is dogshit
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/P._Diddimusuhh why is this still in the game?
>>584546602>nose ring
Riot is hard abandoning LoL Classic so it's looking bad for their MMOguess Blizzard is still king
>>584547069its a classic nose ring, not the middle of the nose cow rings that are currently popular for whatever reason
>>584546892>the rwf streams have to be botted too rightObviously. The entire reason they make mythic raids so impossibly hard on release is to pretend people care about watching the only 2 guilds with the resources to clear them.
>>584547069I have a nose ring irl to show that I’m not straight. however if I were an adventurer who got hit in the face a lot I definitely wouldn’t want one
>>584547047Why would they take it out when they're doing the same thing except with breast milk instead of baby oil?
>>584547116that riot mmo is never coming out
>>584546602
>>584547287If you're getting hit in the face a lot as a healer then you need to break up with your tank
>>584547116what lol classic has to do with mmo? riot went in lol classic with only one though - to double dip with microtransactions, your old stuff like all the runepages weren't available there, so whales had instant advantage, people tried and dipped immediately, riot genuinely retarded
>>584547314This.
>>584545563Correctly too. The layering/sharding/whatever is very jank.
>>584547349And?
>>584547389they abandoned their fighting game after a month too
>>584547116Starcraft MMO any day now!!
>>584547419what the fuck are you talking about
>>584546625Wpvp will forever be fun but raiding capital cities is something I did once in 2009 and never again.
>>584547530If you think they're going to rig armor for zerg units when they wont even rig it for naga or orgres, you're retarded.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>584547671If you even consider the possibility of playable zerg units, you're retarded.
>>584545326Druids have thorns so they are easy mode.
I can't wait to have my skelf level through Westfall. Being a wind elemental elf druid in windy ass westfall sounds kino.
>>584547671>>584547794>tfw you'll never play as Tal'darim protoss with Alarak as your chud faction leader
>>584547890It's classic westfall, not windy westfall, so it's boring and miserable and you're better off going to redridge right off Zephrys Isle.
Why would they give their paywalled elves suck mid racials?
>>584547287I bet you wouldnt need a nose ring to tell…
>>584547890Westfall doesn't feel windy at all?
restedxp is mostly okay but sometimes it routes you through the most tedious bullshit quests and I would honestly prefer if it just told me to grind mobs in those segments instead
>>584548017Classic westfall still had wind elementals
>>584548045I'm not playing the elves for their racials. Unless having shoes is a racial.
>>584547890skelves are NOT welcome in WestfallGo to fucking Darkshore where you belong.
Restedxp
>>584547828Thorns got nerfed like 4 times
>>584548053it's by the sea, it's guaranteed windy as fuck 24/4
>>584548017>>584548053nta but>wandering tornado elementals all over the zone>huge plain full of fields, set in autumnfeels pretty windy alright
>>584548121>I'm not playing the elvesCould've stopped there anon.
when ogres are inevitably added, will they be based on the kul tiran model, or the pandaren model?
>>584548195It should be windy but it doesn't feel like it.
>>584548045They know foids and chinks will play them anyways
I cant wait till nuBlizz makes all our wildest dreams come true and we’re all rich with hot skelf gf’s!!!
>>584548045something something "look guys it's not pay to win!"
I just want the fucking troll priest racial to look shadowy and not a copy paste of lightning shield…..
>>584548163And yet as an agricultural zone it has no windmills to process grain into flour.Curious.
>>584546625People who want to roll on pvp servers need to be aware of who they're gonna be playing with, and it's mostly subhumans who can only have fun when someone else isn't.
>>584548214Nah. If my friends roll a horde I'm going to have to.
>>584548247
I never touched retail but how did they 'sell' people these allied races as new races? Its big body type human, trolls that don't hunch, taurens with tribal tattos, black dwarves.
>>584548397>how did they 'sell' people these allied races as new races?Just another thing to collect.
>>584548397new content, cheevos, by the end it didnt even matter what they pushed out, it's just new stuff, nobody gives a fuck anymore, like genuinely
>>584548247Whichever one requires the least work.
>>584548397>sellthey were free with the expansion and were added over the patchesand void elves are the only succesful allied race anyway
>>584548397Pretty much just that. >Look, they're not new races completely because we dont have the time to make those and put armor on them correctly, so here's races you already have just with different colors/features you've requested as customization option for your existing characters
watched a pvp video with a shaman elemental and the guy sounded so depressed saying he played wow all day that it made me reconsider playing the game at all
>>584548568No fucking wonder we got blue elves if retail is this obsessed with the other variants of them.
>>584548152I'm going to seduce all the human women farmer wives who haven't even seen an elf before and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>584546892>how dead is retailextremely dead outside the first 2 weeks of each new patch retail has "full", "high", "medium", and "low" pop servers, over 100+basically, "full" pop servers have 2-4k players on both factions on at prime time, 5k+ at new patcheseverything lower than "full" is dead, medium and below you won't see another player for hour sometimes
>>584548152Them desperate, harried farmboys are gonna be surrounded by feral, shamanistic elves eager to play Meet the Spoonear and crush the Defias Brotherhood for them. The next generation of Stormwind's breadbasket WILL be half-elves and their pet Air Elementals, wearing Blue Overalls for +4 Str, +4 Stam!
>>584548652he didnt follow the advice of the loading screen to play wow in moderation
>>584548247you think rexxars mum was raped or did his das just have a giantress fetish
>>584548857After meeting him in TBC I think Rexxars dad was raped.
>>584548857His clan were originally rape babies but at some point became their own thing so his parents may have been both half-ogres.
>>584548857It's better to treat pre-corruption orcs as cousins of ogres, so it was likely consentual. Remember, it's:>Earth Elemental>Ogron>Ogre>orcSo ogres and orcs are more like Bronzebeard dwarves and Dark Iron dwarves as far as relation
>last beta patch today>potential 2 internal patches before launchsurely they will fix all the bugs reported in this 60 yurobux beta balanced around streamer pvp tourneysurely they will rework struggling classes like ele and holy
>>584548247>He believes he is getting ogresHaha
>>584549165the WoD ogre slavers were funny
>>584549167there's another patch coming?
>>584548696Girls love playing elves so it's there to appeal to them. I don't know if the Classic style gameplay is appealing to girls however.
>>584549497It's easy and low IQ.It does.
>>584549365Draenor was vastly more interesting than Outland and BC lore sucked.There, i said it.
>>584549465yes today, big weekly patchit was just hotfixes yday
>>584549497Girls will only play cute things. It's a huge problem in league in a really funny way.
>>584549672More than retail though?
>>584549673Draenor would've been way cooler if we had no way back, and Draenor was the in-setting reset for WoW.
>>584549673Truth nuke.Outland being a post-post apocalyptic shithole is what makes it ass but people aren't ready for that talk.
>>584549774Significantly easier
>tfw I will have to settle for a night elf male priest because my dumb friends want to play alliance and every other ally race is fucking stupid I hate it
>>584549887I'm still praying for skelf priest.
>>584549887>waah waah waahshut the FUCK up no shoe immigrant
>>584549875I mean in the appealing to girls aspect. It being easy doesn't mean they'll flock to it in droves.
>>584548697Do people make these look like clowns on purpose?
>>584549754>>584549465>PATCH COMING FROM BEHIND
>>584549887NE males are a good sleeper race because everyone and their fucking mother goes the sexy females
>>584549887gayest post i have seen on this website
How many hours until patch?
Is this the patch where they fix ele shaman
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/resistance-gear-and-the-economy-friends-per-second-podcast-interview-with-383386
announce that forever will revamp gearing and itemisation>we made everything blue!people complain>we made everything green and worse than classic!people complainI don't understand why they even fuck with lvl 1 - 59 itemisation to being with.
is it time to admit that we all fucking hate garbage slop like Forever but were just addicted to a fresh start and posting on this general?
>>584550283>replace lava burst with thunder strike>remove charges on lightning shield>give an RNG chance to hit your target with lightning shield on castdonefucking done
>>584549810That's what makes it great. Also bring yourself back to 07. Apocalypse aesthetic was just coming into vogue
>>584550283yeah, elemental is now a tank spec.
>>584550283No no, that'll be the 10% lightning bolt base damage buff after three raid resets of doing 40% of top specs. They said they're doing "class balancing" for the first half a year.
>>584550283Yes, ans also make spell claw (get it?) enh
>>584550314>we made everything green and worse than classic!They did this solely to balance around the PvP tournament. Do you think anyone would have complained that blues are "too strong" if they weren't level caps allowing people to sit in dungeons farming and twinking out?
>>584550336But i hate fresh starts which is why I leveled 1 character in classic being hyped for doing TBC and realised everything has an expiry date, its like a 15 month long FOMO.
>>584550448A caster tank is something wow will Never have.
>>584548247ogres already have their own fully modeled and animated rig since WoD, dunno why they wouldn't just use that one
I made a thread on reddit asking for the devs to improve the rewards of long quest chains that make you travel around the world because I'm one of the idiots that actually does those instead of skipping it
class/race for me on the left?
>>584550283>he thinks they are going to fix ele
>>584548697SHOTGUN BLASTS THE FACE OFFOHHYEAH
>>584550497Is there anything positive to come from the tournament? Maybe a bunch of people to stress test the most useless snapshot of the game.
Ice Lance is the dumbest dogshit boringest ability everest. Shatter icelance combo, into random chill proc fingers spam icelance over and over. WHOA SO ENGAGING TO PRESS THIS BUTTOOOONNNN OVER AND OVERRRR
>>584550497People complained before the tournament because it was a valid complaint. You're not fully decked out in blues until the 40s, whereas the new dungeon rewards instead made that possible before lvl 20. And stronger items == faster leveling which is antithetical to their purported focus for Forever.
>>584549497trannies aren't girls and should never be catered to because they're mentally ill freaks, that should be in mental institutions
>>584550645They don't want us to dungeon, they don't want us to do long quest chains, are we just grinding?
Anyone know what time they usually post the weekly podcast episode on Youtube?
>>584550701No changes: 50%Actually nerfing ele: 40%Turning ele into a tank spec: 7%Fixing ele: 3%
>>584550721>sit there farming dungeons with the abysmal EXP rates to get decked out in blues for a slightly easier questing experience instead of just questing88 IQ plays, definitely worth balancing the game around
>>584550596Earth Elemental WILL be the super-voidwalker, and Ele Shaman WILL cast Rockbiter Weapon, Thunder Shield, and Earth Shield (Ele) on it!
>>584550309
How good is starshards for leveling?
>>584550336I love Sailor Moon
>>584550309What the fuck does this even mean?
we need to talk...
>>584550824You VILL play the way that blizzard(streamers) wants you to play
>>584550923Another colour of the same mount.
>>584550923Buzzwords dude
>>584550894When Blizzard talks, we listen.
>>584550923It means that Azeroth is getting fat.
>>584550879You don't get it!Spending 3h spamming deadmines for cruel barb is better than getting 3h of actually fucking leveling.Because... Huh... Cruel barb is just That good yeah!!!
>>584550923it means we will get more dungeons to level in, more zones to do dailies in, tol barad
>>584550923netherlands is coming to azeroth
>>584550686Human male warrior/paladin
>>584550923Instead of introducing new level 60 zones full of dailies, there will be new leveling zones for your alts. Leveling infinite alts is what they believe will keep people playing.
>>584550923Architecting azeroth babe
>>584550686Human Vegeta hairstyle Hunter
>>584550686People say DPS are retarded but this looks a lot like healer gameplay in raids.
>>584550923It means everything endgame will have shit gear except for ultra rare drops to keep you farming every raid each week.
Wow forever should have tameable harpy wives
>>584549673ye BC lore was stupid, with kaelthas going full retard and whatever that magical school, love triangle backstory was they cooked up for no reason....we never should have fought wc3 heroes anyway, the story should have been told in the RTS
>>584551127And it will.This time it just will.It will work.Like it worked in turtle!Btw I never played turtle.
>>584550923I imagine (but no certainty here) that the intent is to push out 3-4 zone-dungeon(x1-2)-raid(x1-2) content patches per year, for several years, but to not specifically do things like "Lich King invades Lordaeron/The Plaguelands -> We Invade Northrend -> We Slay Lich King," which spends multiple patches setting up, fighting, and then finishing and removing from use a narrative source of conflict.Instead, they can do the Molten Core content patch, which ends with Ragnaros defeated, but sent back to the Elemental Plane of Fire, then follow up with Blackwing's Lair, where we -can- finish off Nefarian (and Onyxia, who we start with), because the Black Dragonflight and Deathwing still exist to 'generate' future conflict. Same with AQ, since Old Gods can't die-die, and we still have known Yoggy and N'zoth, same with ZG, since we still have trolls + Zandalari trolls, same with Naxx, since KT is a Lich with a phylactry.They basically, -reasonably- have conflict generators from 4, -maybe- 5 expansionis that they can use for new content patches that expand Azeroth itself without needing to completely finish and shelf Lich King, or Deathwing, or Old Gods. Time still passes, but unlike with expansions that specifically structure a chronological order and require the acknowledgement of passing time, the devs can release like 4-5 raids total across Year 1 and despite them having a sequence of availability for us, the players, in setting, they were always roughly simultaneously available conflicts going on. Then they can do this for the next 'tier'.
>>584550948why does LoL look like a gay boyband simulator now ?
>>584551179Are all tier gear going to be tier tokens?
>>584548045implying they arent getting mega buffed today
>>584550923it means they are expanding it vertically
>>584550923Instead of expanding vertically, into outer space like TBC/Legion or underground like Cata/TWW
>>584550894they clearly had an AI summarize the video i had AI tell me more
>>584551184The Tauren racial, Cultivation, should make a hunter-pet copy of a Harpy that joins the Tauren as a slave-wife, rather than the Herb nonsense it is now.
>>584551276Cause of the Asian market.
>>584551127Alts are important, but they're not important enough to carry an MMORPG like Forever. Hasn't the team already learned this lesson from 20+ years of retail experience?>>584551247Is it possible that Blizzard is going to invest more money into Forever after the latest beta success?
>>584551179Dat sounds...Fuarking!!! EEPIIIIIC!!!!FUUUUCK Can't wait for it to drop and get it because I'm a cool dude and everyone loves me
>>584551276 that's where the money is, apparently
>>584550923new profs, new classes, new specs, new builds, new activities, new gear for the new activities,
>>584551341That sounds interesting, but isn't it going to make alchemy more shit?
>>584551341>we want to make alchemy, the profession whose main purpose is to make consumables for raids, to no longer make consumables for raidswow they have such peerless insight into their own game
RACIAL CHANGE DAYSAY GOODBYE TO YOUR ORC AND TROLL RACIALSTHEY WOULDN'T DARE OR WOULD THEYLOL LOLLOL YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS
>>584550923
>>584550721It's literally slower leveling because dungeons suck for EXP. You're now level 20 in blues doing better against yellow mobs, the guy who didn't do that is level 24 in greens that are equivalent to your level 20 blues and still ripping through green mobs. And even if someone wanted to do that, why is it bad? Why does everyone need to be forced to play the exact same way?
You have 3 weeks until this game completely consumes your life for the foreseeable future. How are you going to spend them?
>>584551630where the FUCK did ANYone say that
>>584551715The jury is still out, I'll give it one month to truely capture me. Not to mention, the first week will be absolutely unplayable.
>>584550879>>584551692The complaints were about the quest rewards
which way, Eastern Kingdom mage?
>>584551630>>584551545this is how theyre going to change alchemyyou can low and high alch items like in runescape, but in wow itll give gold+the de mats
>>584551863
>>584551863Dwarf
>>584551715Not if they keep shooting themselves in the faceChanging the classic money printer into retail, now there's no more money to keep retail goingLOL
>>584551863Left
>>584551687heh funny guy
>>584551863Female Gnome
>>584551924not even if they were free>>584551943just for racials? I'm a bit worried that gnome is the designated mage class and they'll be all over the placesure, humans will be all over the place too but at least most of them won't be mages
>>584551692Everybody isn't forced to play the exact same way. 'People' like you that emphasize optimization in Exp gains over every other aspect of the game, to the point of saying if your specific way of play isn't optimal, you are being FORCED by the devs to NEVER touch a dungeon again, because it's a waste of your time, are still free to run dungeon spam to level. It's just not as efficient out the gate anymore.
>>584551924Preorders must be low if they're shilling these things already
RETAILISDEADLOLFAG
wheres the patch
Anybody know how to get RestedXP? Fuck paying for it.
>>584552019You're a retard. The question is that if it's already nowhere near optimal, why nerf it more? That is the devs trying to shoehorn you into playing the way they want you to play. You're like early retard GPS that would offer you an alternate route that adds 30 minutes to your trip for no reason.
>>584550923Wiiiiiidelands
>>584551341Why would anyone bother going alchemy if it doesn't give you buffs for you to sell and use during raids? What is the point of it after that? It just becomes a shittier version of engineering.
>>584552067retail will rise once again from the ashes of forever not unlike a phoenix!!
reminder that the people making this game are the same people that made incursions in phase 3 of SOD and even doubled down after phase 3 launched and said "its so cool seeing people leveling up outside of dungeons" as a benefit to incursions when it was just people walking around in a loop and generating over 100 raw gold an hour while leveling 40-50 (this profit was higher when people were doing masses at 50 with the weakaura automating everything) and allowed it to happen for months before quietly admitting that it was a horrible idea and functionally removing them after the economy was already hyperinflated
>>584551341These niggers have no clue what they're doing
>>584552306Maybe BoP potions?
>>584551365>The Tauren racial, Cultivation, should make a hunter-pet copy of a Harpy that joins the Tauren as a slave-wife, rather than the Herb nonsense it is now.please apply to blizzard
>>584552398>bop stat boostsOkay, so now everyone is required to go alchemy/engineering to parse and pvp.
>>584552263Stay mad and don't play if you can't stand your way not being the optimal path, dumb fuck.
which basedface will be on the podcast today?
>>584552578Almondgold
give it to me straight. how raped are orcs going to be today
>>584552481>Waaaa my profession doesn't offer anything good>"what if it offered this good thing?">NO!!! Thats BAD because it will FORCE me to use it!!What do you actually want?
>>584552263Just go play on your p2w private server instead of crying here
bop luck potion that increases the chance of an epic drop in the world
>>584552578asmongold, followed by mass tranny suicides worldwide
>>584552652racials are gonna be basically over again in general
>>584552019By nerfing experience from dungeon kills they are forcing people to play a specific way. That's the entire reason they made the change. If they didn't care to control the way people are gaining experience then they never would have modified the experience gains.I can't tell if you're retarded or trolling, so I have to assume you're just a retard.
>>584552263arguing with journeytards is pointless anon
>>584551692This time people will totes do the worse thing!I will totes do it.W-what? Stream or film me doing it?Haha nooo I'm not an attention whore haha!B-but I'm totes doing it!!!
>>584552481Every profession could offer bop stat boosts
>>584552564Why do you decrepit 40 year olds need everyone to play the same way as them to have fun in first place? How do alternate ways to progress being viable stop you from smelling all of the flowers that you want?
How's fishing in Forever? >I just wanna be comfy and fish bros
>>584552652Orcs are going back to the internment camps with this patch
new bread
>>584551863Sky elves saved alliance mages for me.
>>584552756you are an Iranian RMT booster tranny you lost you lost you lost
>>584552836I got 150+ pretty fast. Also I think it became harder to start fishing but easier later. But if you buy lure it's like good. Also I think they did something to fishing spots, they last way longer.
>>584552756They aren't forcing anyone, you can still grind dungeons if that's what you likeThis argument isn't about what you like tho, this is just a childish temper tantrum over dungeon farming not being the optimal leveling strategy anymore
new bake >>584552954
>>584552784Unless bop crafting gear is bis at 60, it isn't mandatory. If flasks, LiP and FAP become bop, then alchemy becomes mandatory.
>>584552652Either they rape them really fucking hard or i'll be playing Horde
>>584552836fish with a controller. when it bobs you can hit square instead of staring and right clicking the tiny bobber
>>584553086doesn't it work if you just enable and keybind the interact key?
>>584553021>tailoring/lw/bs make new armor patches that they can only apply to gear they are wearing>the patches wear down and need to be reapplied every now and thenWow it's like you could simply make new ways of getting the same buffs
>>584552813Because then people get ahead of me and THATS UNFAIR.In my 41 years of life people have been getting ahead of ME.And this is about ME this is MY GAME and you'll play it like I WANT YOU TO.ITS MY FUCKING GAME AND YOU ARENT GETTING AHEAD OF ME EVER AGAIN.GO TO RETAIL. FOREVER IS FOR ME.
>>584552756Stay upset, bro. If you spammed dungeons because that's how you enjoyed playing WoW, then you get to play the way you enjoy even longer. If you spammed dungeons because you could just sit in a number of simple, repetitive dungeons and do your leveling process within 5-7 'rooms,' then Blizz has made it clear that your kind can still do so, but it's not optimal.Your slam dunk of "Blizzard FORCING my kind to play THEIR specific way" would actually hold weight if your retard side wasn't "just spam dungeons," and their side wasn't "Go out and do more kinds of content." I won't call you a retard because I think you're just a disingenuous bot shitting up the thread intentionally.
>>584552652If they nerf Orcs but don't touch nelves I'm gonna laugh so hard
>>584552813Getting less Exp from killing dungeon mobs doesn't make you unviable. Being a shitter who can barely play their class outside of being carried in an aoe bomb, at -best-, makes you unviable and undesireable as a player. I genuinely don't want parity between our playstyles because I think you and your kind are an anchor around the neck of the playerbase and your kind pollute the scale of what's reasonable bit by bit, similar to the nazi bar story.
>>584553471Why would they nerf nelves?
>>584553550>implying vanilla content is difficult in any wayBait used to be believable.
>>584553550You'll eventually tie the noose around your own neck of your own volition, troonie
>>584553820>>584553962>responses talking about difficulty, and about nothing but kysKeep the thread active, bots.
my favorite part of tbc classic is having to abandon every single group quest because its dead as fuck
>>584534027So in actual vanilla WoW rogues were good and common in PVE and gods in PVP. In TBC you didn't need rogues at all in PVE but they were still pretty good and great in PVP. WOTLK killed rogues and they've been shit ever since.From a modern perspective, as we saw in nuWoW Classic variants, you don't actually need rogues at all. Even if they are the theoretical best single target DPS you won't "need" a single rogue when you could have another mage. Fire mages are the true kings of vanilla and TBC WoW PVE.But maybe a guild will bring 1 to 3 rogues in the raid group just cuz - IF you out dps warriors and ret shitters - but if rogues aren't clearly superior to ret shits and warriors then you're fucked.
>>584551184.morphpet
>>584554376>clearly superior to warriorsSince we're assuming minmax retardation, rogue doesn't need to be clearly better since bringing over 1 warrior brings 0 value, so you would pick the better DPS just as you picked brown over anything else in Classic.
Blizzard should reserve some time on a show like the video game awards, march all the devs and executives onto the stage and then apologize for twenty years of pure dog shit sullying their once great name and then commit mass suicide
>>584552851>kills honour less targetsI'm pretty sure this is bugged in forever as you get the honour popup even for grey levels with ress sick
>>584555608Actually smiled imagining the scene desu
>>584555662Honor in the beta does absolutely nothing so it doesn't matter.
>>584555608That's a bit problematic, chuddy. How about a drag show instead?
>>584555608That would be the first step towards reconciliation
>>584547619Wpvp is never fun either you're getting ganked while just farming or trying to level. Or you're the asshole ganking some poor bastard who is just lvling or farming.
>>584543346If you can play perfectly and know everything.Mage. Then pala. Then hunter. Then warlock and then other shit. If you are a noob, hunter.
>>584543471If you want the truth. Retail fucking sucks dick and has done for more than a decade. We dont know how forever really is yet but vanilla wow was good and classic was pretty fun even though blizz fucked it all up. If you're a woke leftist who wants to be catered to and dont care about good story writing or gameplay you will prefer retail
>>584559240Just Mage, you literally have an invul on pld.
Speaking of mages.>me grinding gnolls>needs to be careful to not pull more than one>take 30-45 seconds to kill>sits down and drink for another 30 seconds>here comes a mage>aggros entire camp>Aoes them down in a few seconds>move onto the next camp>Blizzard: Mages should get some more buffs before release...
>>584546834Humans have two racials that fuck rogues. Dwarf Stoneform is also very good. Meanwhile, Orcs remove one of your dots and make your dots tick for 15% less for 8 seconds. Like that is going to make a difference. Warlocks were the best 1v1 class in vanilla and they only got buffs, you will be fine. WotF got nerfed, it's not even as good. One fear removal where you have to let the fear go off now rather than pre-casting it just as the cast went off like before AND getting immunity.
>>584564580>>584564580>>584564580ITS OVER. BLIZZARD IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT.
>>584531417Just give them legs
