>tranny op
Incredible.

>>584548457
actually cacus is male (male)

>>584546116
>doesnt vivian overlap with anni?
anni patch should start right at the end of her banner

keksus hate

>>584548273
Gaecus should be the anni instead of GTulu

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Reposting the patch preview from last thread.
Also a 200 silver code in case anyone missed it:

ZKWM-CRBY-ZXCK

>>584549076
I don’t know his much longer I can last, the closer we get to Anni the thinner my self-control gets and I want to burn through my stash so bad.

>>584553640
Save for Arc 3 anon. You don't want the Glotan situation to happen again due to Arc 3 rules.

>>584552181
I'm very curious too see what they do with GTulu, especially after the supposed redesign.

>>584553951
But when Arc 3 starts I’ll need to save for Arc 4

>>584548273
Tender frotting with Caecus

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|her tree hole

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/thread

>>584553384
These JP wheels are so gimmicky, what the hell is going on in that server?

>>584552181
Next year

>>584552181
Will he finally be a real fish boy?

>>584560884
they're global wheels, they just playtest them there

need another lemurian waifu I aint using faros goli tulu

Now that we've had a few rounds of the Dtide, I must say I'm really liking the changes as a somewhat newfag. It's noticeably faster to uncap units to 70 now and with the Emergency Gnosis I don't have to stress about getting completely cockblocked by bad enemy matchups for my limited teams.

>>584566436
yep
it was really weird seeing people complain about the refined gnosis primers at lower scores when in reality the regular gnosis primers have always been a bigger progression bottleneck

>>584566330
Faros is sex thoughbeit

>>584562853
Hopefully not, the transformation is really messed up so it's good that it failed.

is it possible to see what are the upcoming banners?

>>584567903
you can see them both in the OP and >>584553384

>>584567903
They post it in patchnotes.

>>584566330
Bro your Miryam?

>>584567442
I don't do lighthouse sail fembot things
>>584568775
didn't say I wasn't using her

>>584568943
you will still be missing one lemurian if you refuse to use all 3 of those

>>584569426
but light said the lemurians are strong individually dont dont need to be played as 4

>>584563252
JP as in they originate on the JP server, not that they’re JP exclusive.

news tomorrow!!

>>584556914
one of many

>>584556914
we love trees in this game

>>584559076
I’m going to be disappointed if it’s not a murder mystery chapter

kinda weird they dont show portrait relic anywhere until release

>>584580661
I'm guessing extra cauldron countdown whenever something happens

>>584581026
portrait relics have been a little insane recently, I'd expect something more like a stack of boiling anger every turn

>>584583490
uncontrolled boiling anger can mess with you because you sometimes want to sleep for the strength from rouse

vivian whispers slurs while sleeping

>>584587776
Viv keeps crawling into my bed to take quality naps

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i haven't really been satisfied with the base DMG/final DMG explanations I've seen. I've had clankers looking at replays and this is what it's looking like so far - only general bonuses are split by source, while specific bonuses are pooled across sources. there's surely stuff that's wrong here and it's not exhaustive but this is my best fit so far.

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>>584597426

>>584599467
summary - Kath sucks and fiamma is additive with arachne singularity for some stupid reason so you can't even properly wheelchair her.

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>GCaecus

>>584601247
worth it

>>584601247
Finally his dreams come true...

>>584601247
cute!!!

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>Playing Traphase
>Turn 3 enemy Liz deals 90 fucking bleed to everyone on the team
>Opponent does the Ogier waving emote
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you son of a bitch, why did they buff Liz she is so fucking overpowered now!

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>>584601247
Would AA

>>584604532
your mass dispel?

>>584608189
Tinct is the only source of it besides Nobleman's right? I spent all of today seriously considering putting her on the team but I'm not sure it would work out well.

>>584609202
that and casiah

>>584584232
I think it'll be pretty easy to burn through boiling anger though

>>584597426
This is a nice chart. Also, inconsistent bs, sasuga BIVA

>>584620387
The Witch's Wide Brimmed Hat part is funny - it's actually bugged, it buffs exalts too, which is probably why it's in the general bucket and not a specific bucket.

>>584553384
>ZKWM-CRBY-ZXCK
Thank you saar, I have redeemed.

I like her kit but I'm not sure which team to put Vivian in.

The new woman in czn clears.

>>584631632
Vivian GOgier Tawil

>>584631632
dps caraboo

what will the cat cook up for today

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>>584597426
The only one we have is this and it already conflicts with what the AI thinks on the very first layer, namely whether the additional scaling is part of the base damage. The final damage is also different.
I don't know which one is correct but I've watched replays trying to figure out how it works and it's a real mess.
I think I'll do a Doresain test because it should be one of the most complicated calculations in the game, because I always thought for example that Pickman's exalt buff is a separate multiplier.

fire light before he kills this game with powercreep

>>584642354
I used that one to calc Gogier dmg and it didn't work out, it makes sense that there's a lot more multiplication going on with how people are using Gogier and Ghelot in dissolution difficulty.

>>584644904
Why are they rerunning this shit instead of simply putting her skin in the shop? Scam banner.

>>584644904
>if you already have the skin you get dupe material
that's the chara dupe right? how many pulls is it for the skin on avg?

>>584645410
30$ for skin. Rates are setup that you get skin on last pull on avg.

>>584645773
idk how much that is in pulls, just would be nice to figure out how different the avg is compared to limited pulls

>>584642354
tried Pickman Doresain and immediately it's showing me some multiplicative final DMG I didn't account for despite testing both of these units

time to redo the final DMG layer piece again

>>584645773
I don't remember, was it priced in usd or silver prime? Because Silver prime got cheaper.

>>584646904
If you're a dolphin, ~20 silver prime equals one pull, if you're a whale, it's ~30, if you're a leviathan, it's ~60-200.

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news!!

>>584648645
>it wakes up
>it adds another retarded idea from its dream

>>584648741
doomposting is free but 250RM on pure realm is an insane incentive for pure realms which are currently dogshit outside classic chaos, very nice change imo

>>584648645
classic realms also need something like this
there's currently no reason to ever make a pure classic team without a chaos unit because including one just gives you free DR and some extra effects at no cost
also dmg amp value as a stat on covenants/wheels is now in the dumpster

>>584649995
>dmg amp
meant to say realm mastery

>>584650087
no dmg is also completely useless in covs

>>584650130
yeah since the 100 free amp we got with divine realms but now pure realms are also getting free 250 realm mastery

>>584650317
i think that's generally fine since pure realms are intrinsically weaker otherwise

>>584650432
yep, it's a good change

https://x.com/MorimensOfcl/status/2111002562023612455

any of you got this last year and how much did it cost?

>>584648645
thats literally the exact same bonus you get in jp from running all of a single colour. 250 realm mastery for super pure teams. copy pasting jp realm mechanics again.

>>584651671
if it werks it werks

>>584648645
Big buff for GMurphy Lemurian team.
Big buff for GOgier mono chaos team.
Can Light buff Doresain more instead of already meta teams?

>>584648816
250RM is not a good incentive for running bad teams.
This just buffs GMurphy further and nothing else.
Terrible change.

>>584652357
>>584652150
it's a systems change, obviously specific character balance has to be done sepparately but this is a very good change for general team building

>>584652357
I don't think they should over-incentivize it, I don't want the meta ping-ponging back and forth between mono and mixed teams forever.

>>584652357
Gmurphy is pretty dogshit outside of Aequor ring right now so that's good.
Also pretty good in general because pure realms are bad.
>>584651303
It's almost always going to cost you $30 to get from gacha, can't remember if it's it's $30 or equivalent in Silver Prime though, since they reduced the price of silver prime.

>>584652357
>and nothing else
for now

>>584652150
>GOgier mono chaos team
that's not a team, let alone a meta one

>>584658248
at +12 he's meta in any realm

>>584658523
you have literally no reason to ever play him in mono chaos, sUltra gives him stronger corrosion while pCaro gives him stronger exalts

>>584647115
>>584642354
ok i gave the clanker overnight and it's telling me pickman and doresain final DMG bonuses are mostly likely additive

doresain sucks so this is consistent,
>>584597426
this infographic still holds

>>584659525
>pickman and doresain final DMG bonuses are mostly likely additive
then Pickman's buff is awful for Doresain lmao, 15% exalt final damage is nothing when Doresain can have up to 400% FD on his own

>>584658523
>at +12 he's meta in any realm
GOgier is, but monochaos isn't optimal for him. He's not like 24.

witch asmr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68xfB9cDXfk

>>584659946
not to mention that he's forced into primordia chaos so the only thing he would get out of it is marginally better posses

>>584659721
It's a 45% bonus with paradoxical realism + exalt + soulforge but yes, I'd expect Sorel and GLotan to get a lot more benefit out of this buff of his.

>>584660747
a slightly annoying thing about paradoxical realism is that the buff is for the next exalt only so you can't use other exalts between Pickman and Doresain
jumping through hoops for a mediocre outcome

>>584631632
I’m going to try Gog, Viv, Horla, Hameln to start with. I’d like to get a sUltra on that team but Arachne is busy elsewhere.

Vivian too skinny.

>>584662848
regular ultra is also cool for GOgier because the separate ultra turn means you're allowed to apply corrosion again

Man the mobs in dissolution difficulty are absolutely diabolical.... how do people even do this shit....

>>584666016
??? Wasn’t the point of this buff to encourage mono teams?

>>584666616
i guess the argument is that classic chaos has always enabled pure realm mechanics, so at least for once this keeps consistency

>>584666016
it would have been too retarded not to allow classic chaos

right now you get pure bonuses even in new realms for mono teams/teams combined with classic chaos. if chaos wasnt allowed for this new thing divine realms would give you half of your pure bonus if combined with classic chaos and the other half (250RM) f it was fully aequor. just way too confusing imagine trying to comprehend or communicate that.

as is pure teams even with classic chaos get very poor bonuses compared to mixed teams (aside from pontos/vortice who just got 250RM for free lol)

>>584667896
vortice has been married to saya lately so i guess this opens up that team a bit more (probably not tho)

>>584667896
to clarify I do think this is a bad change and they should have just buffed each divine realm's pure bonus (more initial tent dmg per aequor for benthos, more fusion per caro awakener for pcaro, increased base singularity prism per ultra awakener for ultra).

>>584666016
tawil best support again again again
thanks light

>>584651303
pretty sure it was 1980 silver prime to guarantee

>>584669656
If the price doesn't change, I'm definitely pulling just for silvers/limited pulls/selector.

Guys i'm so hyped for my princess !

>>584670169
its 100 pulls' worth of primes for 40 pulls + a selector

idk if that makes sense unless your archives are cleared out already

>>584670943
btw for anyone who doesnt know the selector is what you get instead of the skin if you already own the skin.

>>584666016
this just brings the classic chaos problem to the divine realms, there's 0 reason not to include a chaos character because it just gives you 100% DR and extra stuff for free
I don't really mind this but if they intend to never make another classic chaos character then it will get a bit stale after a while

>>584670943
idk that's pretty close, the selector is worth over 40 pulls by itself

>>584672052
eh 250RM is nice but not nearly good enough to avoid realm mixing entirely

>>584672857
> nearly good enough to avoid realm mixing entirely
They don’t want you to avoid it entirely, they want it to be a roughly equal choice. I do t think they’ve achieved that yet but it sounds like their plan is to make small nudges until it becomes more balanced.

>>584673327
**don’t think

>>584672857
250RM in pure realms is:

12.5% maxHP bigger whitestance (base value is 25% of maxhp)
1.25x more prop fiesta (from all sources)
~4 more stacks of singularity prism and ~6 more stacks of beacon for the ultra space-adjacent cards

idk why they made prop caro and sultra RM scaling so bad, 250RM is a huge number so yeah this is meaningful but to be meaningful they had to use such a huge amount of RM for this. cat is deciding all this shit too quickly either way, buffing pure bonuses would mean you could change how RM scales with divine realms later on without breaking the game.

>>584670943
I ran out of good deals, 1980 prime for ~80 pulls is pretty good for me.

>>584673892
dang, impressive. I'm at 70k primes topped up and havent bought a single archives.

>>584673719
yeah aequor is definitely looking to be the biggest winner from this

ive read the new jp wheel 5 times and still dont get it

>>584682132
not your fault, the text is ambiguous. its not 100% clear how the 3 cost works but you play it, take damage, and permanently get a primordial posse thing after getting hit 5/10/15/20/25 times with the 3 cost active (these stacks persist across the entire exploration). these things dont count as posse triggers because they would break 24 otherwise, and they dont have destroy in JP.

>>584682132
>use 3 cost
>take active/tentacle damage X number of times from the next enemy attack
>each attack taken up to 5 gives wielder a stack for next turn which gives 10% final damage to their command cards per stack (so up to 50% total)
>the 3 cost tracks how many stacks you've accumulated over the exploration and every 5 stacks you get a posse card in the deck up to 5 times

>>584683050
i guess it really is good with Clementine because she can reduce the damage you take from tanking hits. shame its not keyflare.

>>584683326
you wouldn't use it on Clem anyway because most of her damage is from the exalt and this wheel buffs cards

>>584683326
wanda wheel....

>>584682823
>primordial posse
these usually look pretty underpowered
I guess the strength and strength down ones are okay

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>>584683695
you're telling me this is weak???

>>584684395
idk that's half a vivian potion, kinda busted

>>584684395
it's not terrible but compared to funus aeternum... I guess not having to deal with 5% hp sacrifice could be worth the 10 fewer aliemus

>>584684707
dont look at Drowned Innocence

>>584683695
didn't notice it shuffled primordial posses
that wheel is really bad then, those posses aren't worth losing a draw

/mori/ love

>>584690856
they're all worth the draw
0 arith for 150 shield or 50 STR or really any of the effects except poison/counter, is very worth it

>>584548273
Caecues ain't beating the bottom twink allegations.

traphase tomorrow!!

traphase every day

>>584659525
which model are you using?

>>584710710
opus 5.5

having it get good at reviewing replays has been a journey, it still gets a lot wrong, and it turns out strikes are a separate final DMG multiplier so that whole section needs to be revised because there are certainly more final DMG buckets than what I posted. Its pretty amazing at actually coding though, I've had one stack overflow in moriSlop the whole time (omniscient verity -> omniscient verity and you can hardly blame it for that).

>>584712348
just a heads up for replays, the stat screen doesn't show the extra stats from bonded covenants
this was really tripping me up until I figured out what was causing the discrepancy

>>584713203
yeah I was lucky enough to catch that earlyish, appreciate the heads up

I'm still a point of damage amp off all the time somehow but that could be any number of things

>>584713624
yeah it's happening to me too
I "think" it's just rounding in some places and ceiling in others
the correct one should be the one shown in combat I think

alright survive for 8 hours

nyo

page 10 Lnfaooo

taking a Quality Nap

>>584724781
Boiling Anger!

dead geberal

Consider the following: a thread going quiet in the evening is just proof we don't have a lot of jeets shitting it up overnight.

thank god there's nothing to do but d-tide else I'd be tempted to dolphin

czn better thread kek

INFINITE DR Trick
https://youtu.be/EUshKhvL4GA

>>584733739
Thanks Flares!

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redid final dmg layer. This one I have a little more confidence in because I actually tested most of this stuff myself. End of suffering and GMurphy E1 being additive with beacons is real but jfc fucking why.