schlop schlop schlop schlop schlop schlop schlop schlop EditionThread Theme: https://youtu.be/IU2dNJlR8vEPrevious Mission: >>584512091>AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY>ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki>Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc>Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWCBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
<< WINGS OF THEVE!!! >>https://youtu.be/Tq_lUu1PWwA
>>584563192That was ship #2 we wouldn't be able to kill it, damage it and send it running yes destroy any ships that came with it yes
>>584563754What's that string instrument that plays before the electric guitar kicks in?
>>584563458
>>584563824What if it's a DLC from the perspective of the Sotoans as you defeat the San Salvacion defenders at Stonehenge?
The Drop Tank upgrade says it limits certain weapon combinations but I haven't found one, even on aircraft with limited stations like the F-16 (helps that plane had dedicated hardpoints for fuel tanks I suppose). Are there actually any combinations it refuses to let you use?
>>584564198Maybe F-35 and 8agm?
>>584564198What is this even for...
So where does 8 sit in your personal rankingFor me right now it's 5>8>0>X>7>4>JASubject to change over time
I went to Longcasters and they gave me extra fries on the house!
>>584564421Immersion and it looks cool Added in because people loved being able to drop it at will in 7
>>584564421Style Points and Autism>>584564419Just tried it with the F-35C and it doesn't show up at all with any weapon combination, like full HCAA. So that's one I guess.The only recently started talking about putting bags on the F-35 so that makes sense.
>>584564732>The only recently started talking about putting bags on the F-35i think it's mostly because the centerline is occupied by the gunpod
Why no lasers?
>>584564732One down might be some moreUmm how about Morgan, F-22, Mig-21 tired them yet?
>>584564863The FCU has no budget at this point.
>>584564529I put it near the top of my personal list. It drags on a little bit, especially on repeat playthroughs, but everything else about it I like so much. Something like this for me:0>8>4>3>7>X>5>2>1
>>584564863fluff reason: the fcu is brokereal reason: AC7 had way too many and them being so common made them less special, so they're saving them for special occasions only while keeping them at full gamebreaking power to preserve the mystique
>>584565182Wrong.The FCU signed an 18 trillion dollar contract with Enso Order for basedburgers. All of that money could have easily gone to lasers instead.
>>584564863FCU are poorfags they couldn't even afford B-2's to sneak in on the landships and had to take losses to the B-1's to get it done.
>>5845645295>8>PW>0>7>4>6
>>584564781Nah, concepts have always had the drop tanks on the wings, not the centerline. Plus, I think the talks are only about the F-35A for now, not the C. C has bigger internal tanks so they may not need it. >>584565165I don't have the Morgan and somehow I haven't bought the F-22 yet, so can't check those. MiG-21bis mounts the Tank on the centerline, SPWs don't affect it at all.
https://poal.me/eoj5v0https://poal.me/eoj5v0https://poal.me/eoj5v0
The FCU is using an Essex-class carrier in 2030 and you think they can afford lasers
>>584563845Balalaika
>>584565957Anything is possible with Belkan Witchcraft,,
>>584565792Hmm not sure what other planes it could be now. Maybe Su-47 and EA-6??
>>5845645295=8>0>X=4=7>6=PW=JA>AH=Hawx1
how did tasha not crash her plane when she spent five minutes crying in despair after best girl got shot down
>>584564529I'm a 7babby but I like it for different reasons than 7
>>584566216Tasha and her plane are as one in body and soul her plane is just an extension of her own body. She does not fly her plane she becomes her plane.
>>584566216Because she knew Kate would have risen from the dead and spanked her ass for being that dumb.
>>584564198What it actually means is that the drop tanks simply won't be attached if the loadout doesn't have room for them.
>>584565943Wings of Wax bros...
>thousand points of light leadingwow we really are reddit
>>584567557You're mad /aceg/ wouldn't show up for you in your time of need
>>584565961No that's not what it sounds like.
>>584564529I'm a 7babby as well, and I prefer 7 over 8 even if 8 is the better game overall. It's a complicated feeling. 7 has better individual missions, but 8 has a better plot and squadron mechanics. The difference is I played Long Day, Fleet Destruction, Artiglio Port, and Anchorhead Bay dozens of times, but I dunno which missions in 8 I'll be replaying forever. Maybe Expo Bay, but that's pretty much it.
>>5845645298 trumps all of those and it's not even close. Every game is just inferior in pretty much every way other than maybe story presentation in 04.
>>584567679That's a matter of interpretation.
>>5845645295>8>0>7>6>3JP>4>X>JA>AHL>>>>>>>AHGreat game, another peak in the mountain range
>>584567915immortals were based i fuck with those fellas
Does anyone know if the premium skins online transfer to offline?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST MAN, NOT EVEN A RESSUPLY LANE. I must've forgotten how annoying not having enough ammo was or it's just me blowing all my load too early after playing all these newer games.
>>584567915>You are going to die>Immortal staring at you right thereTalk about a blunder
I didn't know aceg was so into 5
>>5845645290>X>PW>4>8>3>7>5>JA>>>>AssHo, haven't played 6
>>5845645294>PW=8=0>5=7>X=6>3>>>>AHL>>>>>>>AH
>>584567816Okay but we're talking about personal preferenceI can acknowledge one thing is better than another thing and still enjoy the other thing more due to humans being irrational animals
>>584568029To be honest, AC5 is the only one that really makes you go out of ammo in some cases, even comparing it only to the older games.That's why i'm so good with GUNS GUNS GUNS
>>584568018>Consistently want to die in glorious battle>Keep surviving due to Wings bullshitteryThe only group in the FCU disappointed that the war was over.
>>584564529>>584565440>>584566130>>584567915>all these 5fagsBut /aceg/ is always pooping on 5
>PW over ANY ace combatngmi
FOLLOW ME, YOU WRETCHED SOULS
>>584568362It's the project transexual infiltratorsWe are just superior and don't care about these subhumans
bRO JUST GIVE ME THE HARRIERS. tHEY ARE RTIGHT THERE.
>>584568152Please censor AH. This is a blue board.
>>584568425I simply cannot argue with how solid the gameplay is especially as a simfag who enjoys the support for trackir and hotas
>>584568362>But /aceg/ is always pooping on 5A good rule of thumb is that people voice negative opinions more than positive opinions. If somebody likes something they won't bring it up unprompted, while if they dislike something they will. This gives the illusion of the consensus being more negative than positive, especially on this goddamn website.
«DEATH IS A LONELY ROAD»«WE SHALL RAM INTO THE ENEMY»
>>584568223I'd only maybe put 0 over it, if we're talking personal preference but 0 is VERY shallow in comparison, although it's due to hardware and budget limitations. Newer games are just better because core gameplay was always fun. It's a matter of music/presentation/visuals now. They play better, they sound better, they look better. Now they just need to figure their story out. I feel like it's still their weakest link.
>>584568752>centeral
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2900892566?t=2h24m58s This could be made into a divegrass chant.
>my teammate is flying a leveled up F4E
>>584568812The game is riddled with spelling errors and I'm not sure how much of it is sloppy localization or just Japanese Engrish
>>584569045I've seen typos in dialogue so it's simply jeeted.
What was the master plan behind retaking of theve 1? They have no answer to the battleship yet, and they think that it's just 6 hours out of range. What were they planning on doing after retaking the city? Feel a sense of pride and accomplishment for 6 hours?
>>584564529That's basically my ranking too, just with 8 and 0 tied and PW a bit ahead of both. 8's not perfect, it had a fair few moments that frustrated me, but it's really good.
>>584568685Fair enough. I played it two times, one normally and one in VR.I remember having fun, but it's just not a memorable game at all, at least for me.If it weren't for /aceg/ i would have forgot even the callsign Crimson 1, and for sure i don't rember the roundel. And the other thing i also remember the game becoming orange because it burned my brain in VR. And the soundtrack was good, but the only memorable OST (for me, thati can hear in my head i mean) is ShowdownAt the same time i remember every ace combat story, characters, superweapons and most prominent (and even not prominent) songs from all the saga
>>584564529Where is 3, secondary?
>>584569285The Retaking of Theve bits are the wonkiest bits of operational planning. The first operation was supposed to be carried out by like 6000 men as well, most of them were not trained ground pounders. It's such a mystifying operation, especially when later they reveal they had a completely intact southern sector still capable of offensive operations at scale.
Alright, what's everyone's least favorite Online map not counting Emergency Sorties? For me it's Chopinburg.
>>5845645293>8>7That’s just the ones I’ve played though
>>584569012Doesn't happen to be the guy typing Yo Way Yo in chat?
>>584568029Everyone always run out of ammo on that mission the first time you play it. Its a learning experience in chose targets wisely and make proper use of your wingmen. At that point you have to rely on them to finish the mission for you until you learn and can complete the mission with ammo to spare.
>>584568634vtol flight too much engine work for small nipponese indie deveropers prease understand
>>584569558Not like it even needs to do any VTOL. The F-35C doesn't.
>>584569460Salatapura
If you put 3 above any ps2 AC games and 7/8 you don't really like videogames.
>>584568752the patch designers at PA are fuckin beastly. every patch is so cool
Post plen exhaust port
>>584569371I've only played the western version and it was something like 20 years ago, I can barely count itIt was ok I guess since at the time I didn't know it wasn't the real 3
>>584569460None of them rate very highly for me. I suppose I think that the space elevator is cool and farbanti scratches a nostalgia itch. I don't really care for most of them at all.
>>584569653>F-35C>VTOLAnon..............really?
>>584569653it wouldn't because the F35 doesn't have vtol in any variant. the navy F35 takes off with the catapult. the marines' F35B has STOVL but it's short takeoff, their F35 can only do vert takeoff if it's completely unloadedthe harrier on the other hand is pretty much THE vtol jet. if you put a harrier in without vtol it's not really that cool
I still haven't played 3
>>584569764
>>584570158LEWD
>>584570158Look at that fat slut!
>>584570086I played178And I feel like playing belkan war some time in the future next.
>>584570086I did UPEO first and now I know I'm gonna feel bad when Rena gets killed every other route
>>584570050Oh wait that's the B isn't it? I don't care much for the 35 and->>584570076yea, this. Still though, they wouldn't actually need to make the Harrier perform any real VTOL just to add it.
>>584569285Enso was actively trying to fuck them. Why the FCU went along with it is another question.
>>584569764how about intake port
>>584569941I actually quite like Shilage Castle. Lots of ground units nicely clustered, but with the clusters spread at a nice distance. Potentially lots of air units. Online as it is is currently a point race but with Shilage Castle something about it makes it not as annoying.
>>584570639Is there actually a Shilage Castle map? I haven't seen it. That or I've just been so fucking clocked out playing the multiplayer that I haven't noticed.
>>5845645295 > 8 > 4 = 0 > PW > 7Still need to get around to 3, 6, and X I can't believe I've been playing these games for decades now what the fuck
If they can include 0 as a bundle with a new game what's stopping them from updating 0's graphics while they're at it, other than time and resources being better spent elsewhere
>>584570158Oh look she wants to settle down
>>584571038of course, she's ready now
>>584570076The Harrier never operated purely VTOL in reality, outside of demonstrations. Whenever it was used in anger, it operated as a STOVL, because it couldn't hover when fully fuelled and loaded just like the F-35B.
>>5845645290 > 4 > 8 > 7 > PW > 3 > X > 6 > 5 > 2
>>584570215>>584570236>>584571038
I hope not doesn't take too long for the XFA-27 to be added into AC8. Using the IEWS with the joint strike missile is going to be fantastic. A wall of fucking missiles to shoot down those ticking Shadow faggots.
>>584571261missiles are heavy. vtol is the harrier's identity though. every time it's depicted in media it's floating, like the harrier ambush in area 88 or that one in ac7 dlc based on that. putting a harrier in without vtol would just get the >WHERE'S VTOL reaction from most people
>>584570914X is a kickass little game anon, do itThe missions are overall simple and short due to the nature of the platform it was made for, but it has some very fun and cool ones and it is almost endlessly replayable (and you'll need to play it 3 times to see all the missions since there's branching). Lots of planes, great soundtrack, and on Ace it will kick your ass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3jYeffzDoYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwu1sky00ZMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyYEsdAPi2A
>>584571181>*2500* F-35sthat US procurement seems uhhhhhh awfully high
I noticed a thingAll the AC5 fags put AC0 high in their listAll of the AC0 fags put AC5 very low in their listWhat's your hypotesis? Mine is that emotional people can play, enjoy and relate with most of the things, while "gun and ball" gamers only want gun and ball
>>5845718420 is an objectively good game with very few flaws. 5 is harder to gauge because it's a very, for lack of a better term, Japanese game. I normally can't stomach that stuff, not anymore at least, but 5 is one of my rare exceptions.
>>584571842AC5fags are Ace Combat fans.AC0fags are the equivalent of Gundamfags whose favorite entry is 08th MS Team.
>>584571734The F-35 was meant to replace every F-16, Legacy F/A-18, and AV-8 in US inventory. The US has operated over 2000 F-16s alone over its lifetime.
What's so strategically important about this wasteland
>>584572167Oh, so you think that the "anime feeling" is what is too much?Fair enough
Ace Combat 4 is still the best Ace Combat game.
>>584572387Clay deposits.
>>584572314This is a great point, and i think this might be the reality
>>584572314I wouldn't quite go that far, but 5 is definitely the game that made me realize I love the series.
>>584571842ACZfags value gameplay and replayability, they're likely to put AC6 and AC04 near the top of their list too. AC5 is miserable on replays because legit over half the missions are "that mission".AC5fags value hype moments and melodrama and ACZ has a lot of those too, so it's near the top.
>>584571842Wasn't the main complaint about 5 how while the story is good, it has too many gimmicky and mid missions?
>>5845645298>5>2>3D>X>3>0>6>04>7
>>584572387weird magnets, untapped underground resources and belkan autism
>>584571181Those Canadian F-35s are never going to materialize, they're getting Gripens
>>584572828I think a lot of what makes me rank 5 at #1 is that I just don't have much of an interest in replaying, at least not more than once every 5 years or so. 0 is the only one I've ever played at least 3 times and still the one I'd be most likely to revisit in the future.
>>584572828>over half the missions are "that mission".Nah they aren'tYou spergs just shit yourselves when the game asks you to do something more than point farming with no objectives
>>584573141>Canadian F35 contracts cancelled out of orange meltdown spite>start seeing suspiciously J-35 shaped aircraft with RCAF rondels
>>584571492fucking WHORE
That is a great formation for this mission.
>>584573703I dont think I ever got him to say otherwise
>>584573141They've already paid for 30Maybe the rest will be Gripens but they'll still be operating several F-35s
>>584573703
>>584573618
>>584571181What are the odds the US can turn all these foreign ran F-35s off whenever they want?
>>584572852Yeah, but honestly every AC has "that boring" 1 ore 2 missions.And honestly, the only real shit AC5 mission was the nerve gas one, inspired from AC3, and and you could actually avoid that by choosing head on the cointoss
Post Gripen lewds.
>>584573930100%, that's why the Israeli one is the only one without backdoor
>>584573930>>584574084They don't even need to when a lot of the tech needs approval from the US to start in the first place.
>>5845739300we wouldn't sell them to any country we'd need to do that to, and the parts are classified american tech. you have to come to us for anything wrong with it. that and the threat library is american, without us you can't use it effectively
Is the updated rendering still only in the beta PW?
>>584573278>ShorebirdsYou shoot down like 1 wing of Fishbeds. Stuck in F-5.>Open warShorebirds again, why does this exist>Narrow MarginIt's ok. Still stuck in the F5.>First FlightInfinitely respawning enemies while Grimm slowly takes off. Gets real obvious if you're too good at clearing out the initial attackers quickly>RendezvousNormal, decent mission.>White Bird IGreat mission, solid objective, lots of ways to play it and targets to prioritise.>Front LineDrags a bit with the whole total nugget death section where you have nothing to do. Otherwise ok.>Handful of HopeDOGSHIT>Lit FuseGIGA DOGSHIT. Fuck infinitely respawning bunkers, infinitely respawning tornados, and infinitely respawning A-10s. Legit have to stop killing them to not run out of ammo even if you're very efficient with both guns and missiles.>Blind spotnothingburger of a mission, feels like a simple "shoot down big slow targets" mission that would usually be the intro. Just not enough targets.>Chain Reactionit's Okay>ReprisalHoly fuck this mission sucks. The stupid car chase is far too long and there is nothing to do.>Powder KegTango line but more boring and chopper won't shut up.>Four horsemenlmao. hated for a reason.>Demons of RazgrizThe fight is a bit of a letdown but the theming and the story carry it. Good.>Ice Cageinfinite respawns, entire mission happens in like 1 small area of the map where you kill the same enemies 20 times>White noisegimmick does nothing. Boring mission.>Desert arrowlol>Desert Lightninglmao>Journey home10/10 peak Ace Combat.>FortressInfinitely respawning SAMs and AA guns and Gripens... yay.>8492cool ace squadron fight. nice.>Final OptionTerrible. Would be more fun if they just let you go full speed.>Ancient WallsThe worst of the "kill the same infinite respawns" missions.>Solitarelmao>Closureit's ok. Mountain has too much hp.>Ghosts of razgriz.Ok canyon mission, bossfight is trash and on railsThe final ones are good.
>>584570158I don't know the F-35's exhaust specifically looks like a gaped butthole when other single engine jets usually don't.
>>584573930100% lol. The list of American tech that isn't backdoored up the ass is significantly shorter than the list of tech that is.
>>584573981
>>584569285probably try to install an insurgency, sotoa probably wouldnt flatten a city due to a couple rebels
>>584569285Once they retake the city the battleship can't fire at them because that would be a war crime.
>>584574340vectored nozzle gives it that bhole look cuz of the tight second ring>>584574405why would we need a killswitch? if we ever used one anyway that would instantly kill our industry, nobody would buy planes that would come with backdoors in themwe don't have to backdoor anything because it's all proprietary and we pick who we sell to. there's zero logic in backdooring our tech. the shit literally doesn't work without our permission, we don't need a backdoor when our ability to cut off their access to its systems is pretty much a kill switch already
>>5845645296=0>PW>7=8=4>3>5>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah
>>584574451They're only 20% faster than QAAMs while having 100% more turn rate. They straight up turn better than QAAMs.Their "weakness" is their "low" homing angle which means they drop a target if their angle of attack to the target is too high, except it still has the third best homing angle of any missle besides QAAM and SAAM.
>>584574667>the smoking crater formerly known as Rio Bajo
>>584571842I'm fine with the emotional stuff, 5 was just so horribly awkward at times it's just hard to take it seriously. I love the cheeseball stuff in 8.It's more the mission design that kills it for me, so many of them are just flat out boring on replay.
>>584571842AC0 and 4 are both shorter games with somber tone and less personal drama. 5 feels like an opposite of that which isn't a bad idea by itself but Project Aces wasn't able to deliver with 5 and 8 is a much better attempt at this kind of structure and storytelling
>>584574328>First FlightI loved that>Lit FuseI loved that>Four HorsemanI loved that>Desert Arrow\Desert Lightningi loved that>Fortressone of the best missions>Ancient WallsI loved that>SolitaireIt's fun if you speedrun itThe only 2 missions i share your views are Reprisal and Final Option.You are basically proving what >>584573278 said
>>584574667Probably wouldn't?
>>584575053What fucking retard balanced this shit?
>>584575206Because killing infinitely respawning enemies while nothing happens is somehow the game asking me to do things other than farm points?
>>584575163>wasn't able to deliver with 5But it's the most high rated AC of all times
>>584569285I think the idea was that if they take Theve, they show all the splinter factions that they can fight back and everyone will magically unite against Sotoans. Honestly it was a silly idea and at no point did I think there was any chance of success to that mission even if they try to hype it up with some speech beforehand.
Reminder to farm morgan players whenever you see them in your deathmatch lobbies. They're the biggest shitters around
>>584575385The enemies are infinitely respawning because the story is going in the background, and if you reach the infinite respawn cap is because you're better than the average player that playtested itSo yeah, you don't really care about the story, the music, the characters, but you just want to shoot things until there aren't
Will ACES8 win game of the year or at least soundtrack
>>584574879That's a matter of interpretation
>>584575764>GOTYNo chance>SoundtrackI think it's actually quite likely, definitely won't get snubbed like AC7 did
>>584575764It should but we all know that bribery and nepos are king so GTA will win.
>>584575764>TGA changed release date cutoffs just for gta6>GTA6 also has an original OST by fucking Justicenot a chance.
>>584574891>we don't need a kill switch because we already have a kill switch>nobody would buy a plane with a kill switch, which is why we sell them planes with kill switches and they buy them
>>584575764It would be sick to see the big pretentious orchestra they always have play Hortus Regis Alti or Everflow
>>584575148no one gives a shit about that backwater, but a major city being deleted will draw attention when your enemy is an 80 year old carrier, a hand full of plane, and two destroyers, its also a matter of scale too, backwater was an entire state doing guerilla warfare, cant have your client states getting upity, theve would have had maybe 2000-3000 poorly armed rebels after the majority of the landing force fucked off when the land battleship got back in range, easy enough just to send a few infantry divisions in to mop up
>>584575764rockstar has more money than bandai>>584575906systems access is explicitly not a backdoor
>>584576007>backdoors aren't backdoors
>>584575764Goty nominated, not popular enough to winOst win, it has to, there's really not much competition I don't know what other categories are
>>584575764It deserves best soundtrack, like all of the AC releases deserved it for every year they got released in, but we are never going to win it.There's actually some hopium because of figures like mosticritikal, hololive and uberglazers like marcomeatball, but i'm not buying into it... yet
>>584576165i'm not your dad, figure it out yourself
SO WE WILL RISE ABOVE!!!
>>584576280I accept your concession.
>>584575764Goy theft auto sweeping the entire show cause licensed slop music gets retards going
Dude I love client side flare spam in Scramble while a friendly jet from off screen gets the kill with a desync invisible missile
>the cloud airship missionWow if only I wasn't cucked by carrier plane requirement, many such designs
>>584576454as if retards even matter. they're paid-for awards
>>584571842The basic gameplay and physics in both is near identical, so it comes down to personal mission design preferences. Both games are cheesy, so calling ACZ fans "gun and ball" gamers is odd.AC5 uses mission design to move the plot forward. The cutscenes between missions also focus on the player's squad at the same time as the events of the game. This means mechanics or even just dialogue being used in service of the narrative can affect mission design because the plot has to move far enough along to get to the next cutscene for the next "thing" to happen. Whether this is good or bad is up to the development team and how they adjust missions to serve the plot via different mechanics. ACZ is different. The cutscenes are set 10 years after the events of the game and are your adversaries reminiscing about your brief encounters. Being a prequel to a conflict mentioned in AC5, there is a need to contain the events in Zero to the basic timeline of the war. There isn't a secret shadowy plot happening via cutscene to your squad/allies, because the cutscenes don't take place at the same time as the war. Therefore the narrative can therefore just be "skilled mercenary fights in a war and becomes notorious/infamous". If the story is just about you fighting a war, the mission design can also be less linear because the missions don't need to railroad the player just to set things up for more plot in cutscenes. You are a combatant during the Belkan War. Go fight in it. AC5 is narrative driving the gameplay while ACZ is gameplay driving the narrative.
>>584576658Honestly a good breakdown. So basically, story enjoyers love AC5 because they don't feel the "weight" of the story during the gameplay they also love, and at the same time, could love AC0 because they love the gameplay, while at the same time, AC0 fans love the gameplay but feel the weight of the story too much
Too many scrambles with no general blueprints I'm dying
>>584576540You should have one of the mid tier carrier planes by then, at least the 18E/F or Su-33
>>584576540Doing the strike fighter only is hilarious on carrier missions. You are stuck with a fucking A-6
>>584564529Too lazy do it properly but I would put it right here. It's a pretty big step up from 7, but 6 still has better gameplay. And 3, 4 and 0 still make my Top 3 because of their stories.Although jury is still out for me if 8 will become another 5 for me. A game that's really good on the first go, but gets increasingly more annoying to replay each time.
>two and a half hours of online>a single scramble proc>after 100 min>no emergency sortiesC'mon scamco. I just want some fucking general blueprints
>>584575891Literally whomst?
When does week 4 of the pass start? I want to be done with this shit and uninstall so I can make room for Crimson Desert
>>584577310You get GBPs from Emergency Sorties. Scrambles give one each of the specific BPs of the planes you're fighting.
>>584577657>Maintenance for nothing>Utter dev stream flop>New weeklies aren't a thing I guessWhat the fuck is up with this week
What the fucking bullshit in mission 15?
I doubt pw is as good as you chart niggas say.
>>584575764>or at least soundtrackSorry buddy, that's MIXTAPE
>>584575764What're the odds that GTA6 gets delayed again?
I know some people get upset with the top gun influences in AC but the thing you had with Baxter reminds me of this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQIYmHCnsjEAlthough in AC8's case it was even more serious and had a worse ending
I love story but I hate 5 because I hate Chopper and especially Nagase because they’re both obnoxious and also never shut up.Well, Chopper does eventually permanently shut up.
>>584577778Just go fast and shoot a lot
>>584574328>RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I JUST HATE THE WHOLE GAME OKok.
>>584577838They released a new trailer some hours ago and the release date is still the same, so very unlikely.
>>584577785It's not. Dev took the money and ran, too. Never finished it.Only reason people here stan for it is because dev was le ebin 4chan ourguy
>>584577778Don't let off the throttle and go where they're going to be when they turn, don't just stay behind the whole time. Destroy one engine on each before taking one down.
>>584575764Ace Combat will literally never even be in the GOTY conversation and that's a good thingI don't understand why anyone cares about gay awards
>>584577757Scrambles definitely can drop them but they're rare and it's usually one single awarded
>>584578000I go with fucking mig-31b and unload all qaam and dozen of regular missiles + shitton autocannon fire.Enemy retards eat this all and still fly with 3k+ kmph.The fucking fuck really.
>>584577427>it's a pretty big step up from 7!>same tier as 7This nigga is too retarded to make a chart
Oh to be hit by a tonitrus spear strike right now. Just for the sweet sweet release of death..
>>584564141>Kicking puppies: the DLCYeah, i don't think so
>>584578043c9finn...
>>584577427I really dunno why the operations from 6 never made a comebackI can see why they shouldn't be used for every mission if PA wants to spice it up but if 5 of the 30 missions from 8 had the operations system that would improve the game a ton
>>584575707You can reach that point by just having a functioning prefrontal cortex, these games are not very difficult. That's why I said these missions suck on replays.
>>5845645290=04>8>3>X>6>7>5>2>3D>1I don't think PW or the real world ACs belong in these rankings
>>584577785It's fun enough. Cold War is a kino mission, multiple SpW was nice but I genuinely think 8 implemented it better, superplanes were cool. Graphics were fine but for half the game everything's ORANGE so it literally doesn't matter, final boss is a retard that stops being fun halfway through because instead of Mihaly's invincibility timer he's just a damage sponge for no reason, story's probably weaker than any Ace Combat game even Air Combat.Overall an indie game success, though artbook never ever.
>>584578283Anon definitely could've formatted that better, but the red line is where it goes, not where he put the '8' that the red line points to.
>>584577785For a single dev project it's surprisingly goodIt does help that the AC formula of "fly around and shoot and occasionally a thing shows up to fly in and/or shoot" is solid enough that even an amateur can do itPersonally I wouldn't put it over 7 (definitely not 8) but it's enjoyably AC-ish, I understand why some people would rate it higher
>>584578283>>same tier as 7It's... not. It's slotted between 6 and X. Don't do this to me bro.
>>584577908>because they’re both obnoxious and also never shut upSo like literally everyone in 8 but I bet you love those huh.
I wish the Celaeno was a more interesting fight
>>584564863>Why no lasers?Too busted, the pulse laser would have made the battle with topkek a joke
>>584578043https://www.supatier.com/create-tierlist/template/01a1406c-e686-7e50-827d-bc13657b047a/ace-combat-8-missions-1-30-s-to-f
HAWX is the worst ace combat game and I even enjoyed that. They're all good in my book.
>>584578432You have quite literally no idea.
>>584575206>unironically simping for Lit Fuse, Desert Arrow/Lightning, Fortress, and Ancient Walls.Bait used to be believable.
>>584577785It's really good, and I mean in general, not just by indie game standards.
>zeroniggers shitting on 5 for no reasonI guess anon here >>584568743 was right
Got a free aim kill in a head on with the SASM while jammed my pants are wet
>>584578818Not sure what you're trying to say by responding to a post about AC5 with your AC8 mission rankings. I guess some of these missions have some of the same issues AC5 had but AC8 has generally much better missions.I generally agree with that list though, except I quite enjoy Wings of Wax, would put it into A tier.
>>584578937>me when i don't have MISSION CLEAR when i gun gun gun in gun gamengmi
>>584578771kusoge I must have dropped after the first level or two
Just realized that tasha is a genderswapped grimm>Both are roughly the same age>Both join due to lack of manpower>Both are proficent pilots despite the young age>Both see a teammate die and have a mental breakdown
>>584574328I've never seen someone whine about having too many targets in an ace combat game
>>584577785it's great if annihilation missions are your favorite ones in AC, pretty impressive game for like three dudes. it's not as good as any ace combat games though, definitely feels like an indie love letter to AC. definitely a lot of glazing on here
>>584577785Many parts of it feel amateurish but if you're a fan of AC, you're almost guaranteed to like it.
>>584578252Bring multi-lockers or gunpods and a fast plane. You wanna dump a shitload of damage into them in as little time as possible when they turn.
>>584578673yeah what was with this thing. mechanically just a little pussy version arsenal bird
>>584575540>assault horizon over 0You don't have game journalists enough
>>584579429>Woman who just wants peace>Silly hair>Rookie who keeps up with stupid stunts (First Flight)She's basically all of Wardog rolled into one, but you could easily match Wardog with Joker since Baxter's mostly there to one day be an astronaut and Coster loves music and has a silly haircut himself
>>584577785It's damn impressive for an indie game, and fun enough with a good enough soundtrack and a few really good ideas.Lack of mission variety, polish and a forgetable story means it can never be considered ont he same level as the best AC game tho.
>>584579907Also kate is pretty much a more tragic snow
8 tier list is hard, I like pretty much all of themEven Two on the Run is okay when weighed against similar missions
>>584579457Respawning targets are boring, especially when they come in small chunks. You're doing the exact same thing over and over again with zero variation or thinking.
Please scamco I just want to play the game. None of the other modes pop
>>584580558Two on the Run would be better if it was like 30% shorter
>>584577785Base gameplay is more fun than most of AC desu. Multi-weapons, the sheer variety of said weapons and AOA limiter are really enjoyable to fuck around with, and it did a better job differentiating its three superplanes in one game than AC did in 6.The worst part is the devs don't really know how to incur difficulty outside of shoving so many missiles and railguns up your ass that you can barely play the game. Oh, and the story sucks.
>>584580558Two on the Run is the worst radar stealth mission in the series
3 F-15s in the game and only one of them is good what are the odds?
>>5845811422 out of 3 of them are good ackhsfhally
last night the game said my account wasn't allowed into onlinebut now it worksserverside error?
Since we're basically dumb anime Call of Duty of arcade flight games...I think PA need to look at some of those 7th gen COD games circa 08-11 and maybe learn how to make briefings engaging. Debra Wilson must've had more lines of dialogue compared to any wingman, maybe even two of them combined due to all of that EXCESSIVE yapping. It is possible to have briefings be...brief, concise and entertaining all at the same time. More words doesn't mean better writing. Please, I beg of you, chill the fuck out PA. You don't need to pad my playtime in this mind-numbingly superfluous manner.
>>584581142They're all good.
You have been winning your matches, right anon?
>>584580558Two On The Run is saved by the cutscene
>>584580862Most of them become other kinds of missions afterwards, like Rescue or Handful of HopeThe aircraft speed and effective altitude limit with the radars overhead makes it feel more like Final OptionI'm struggling to remember the rest
>>584581142F15C is arguably the best dogfighter in the game and F15E is easily top two attacker, if not the best.
>>584581142There are no bad planes, only bad pilots.
>>584581993sounds like something a belkan engineer would say
>>584581993Gemmabros...
>>584581974>>584581974>F15C is arguably the best dogfighterIt's next on my list to buy what does it just accelerate quick then turn around on people to hit them with SASM?
This whole voices in your head thing feels like you could remove it entirely and the game wouldn't change at all, neither for better or worseIt's just...some dude rambling. It adds nothing. What was even the point
>>584582287It's the best turning SASM plane basically yeah
>>584582318I liked his ramblings. They were pretty grounded as opposed to everyone else's chatter that was enjoying murdering and war way too much.
>>584581428Briefings for MW2 and BO1 were so good at setting the game's tone. I sometimes listen to them for fun.I think all the chatter should be kept to the cutscene and the mission briefing being the commander talking uninterrupted.
>>584582318Cope provides context on Tewy and Sotoan culture that we wouldn't otherwise have.Cope's existence makes DD's propaganda feel more... I don't know how to put it. If the propaganda had started with us, it would have simultaneously felt more factual and less like propaganda (since we do kill a shitload of enemies each mission) and also would feel like the game was sucking our dick way too early in the story to make sense
>>584582318Problem with the ramblings is that there's barely any interaction between Ray and Cope. There's one time where you actually talk to him and it's mission 1, never again will you actually be allowed to ping off him.
>>584582318I like him, his VAs, the context he adds. Good addition along the usual mute protag.
I wish online would let you veto matchmaking with certain aircraft/SPW combos so you could just fuck around without caring about the meta. I don't care about being outskilled, which is what matchmaking usually cares about, but I'm bored of seeing the same vehicles over and over. I want to be shot down by some madman in a MiG-21.
>>584582318I thought that at first, but by the end I ended up really liking Cope.
>>584583275The Barricader and Morgan would never see the light of the day again
>>584579632It fucking not work.I fired 800 shells, 40+ aams and 60+ regular missiles. And down only one plane.This is total bullshit, i can wipe whole regiment with that amount of dmg.
>>584583537Morgan definitely. TLS is just too broken and it gets ECM on top just to be extra annoying.Barricader might get through, depending on how many bans people have.
>Had option to buy SU-34 or F-15E>Decided to fully upgrade the F-4E insteadIs there anything wrong with me?
>>584583636Have you tried actually hitting the target?
>>584583636You know you're only supposed to fire your missiles when they're locked on, right?
>>584575985I hate the generic sting it doesFeels too avengersAlso all of AC8s songs thrive on the longform formatThey build and they build along the gameplay and are perfect with the gameplayIt won't land on stageAlso the orchestra can't be pretentious because it has pipe guy
>>584583748No, the F-4 is a competent plane, especially at the higher levels.
>>584582318The whole war is full of lies on both sides and everyone has some hidden layer or two, and the closest thing to the truth is this ghost on your shoulder whose own memories are scattered up until the endI think it's pretty neat, I like when AC experiments with different narrative devices, and a lot of your enemy's perspective depends on it, which is important for a plot where nobody's really out to understand each other, committed to what they believe about each other instead, for good or badHonestly I think they should've leaned into it harder, make it more of a question whether the Cope in our brain is real, if anything of what we're being told by him is true, or if we're just coping and essentially doing what everyone else is doing and following an ideaBut it still works despite being a little safe, ultimately AC is about warm fuzziness and sincerity so I can forgive them going "this is how it actually is, and how it actually is is good"
>>584577427>7 and 8 are fun to play and actually challenge the player, as proven by wealth of optional targets and endless bitching from the community of how hard the game is>Less than zeroLol
>>584583537I like to think some people would put up for it for faster matchmaking or because they like that style of play. I don't resent the people who enjoy it or anything, I'd like them to have fun too.
>>584583748HVAA goes ZOOOOM.
>>584584302>You can survive 3 missiles on Ace>Challenge the playerYeah, no. AC7 and AC8 are by far the easiest games in the franchise, the reason you're seeing "bitching" from the "community" is that they attracted a ton of new players who don't know shit about fuck.
>>584583840>>584583963You 2 idiots. It mission 15, not 1.
>>584584826I know. I beat it in the starter F-18C on Ace. It is not difficult and you don't need that much ammo, you just need to hit your target.https://anonmp4.art/v/U5FQCyf5d7OmXyK
>>584584475>You can survive 3 missiles on aceYeah? Newsflash they shoot way more than 3 missiles at you a missionHell ill be happy to have less than 3 missiles every 10 seconds on some missions
>>584583748MGPs shred emergency sorties.
>>584585054You don't need to post proofPeople have been bitching since day1 that they "did everything possible and couldn't beat the mission"Idk what they tend to be doing wrongBut it's definitely a skill issue
>>584583748YeahYou're playing ACOBut having cleared that hurdle no, the cost is relativrly so low who can blame you for maxing out a starter multirole with good weapons options so that it doesn't roll like a piece of shit
>>584585291I think most people are slowly chasing the ladons instead of positioning themselves in intercept positions between the ladons and the fleet.
>>584584826I don't know what to say buddyYesterday i did that mission for the sixth time with the EA-36 Barricader using only IEWS and Standard Missles + the gun with High damage on it and managed to finish the mission just after thier first run. They only sank the first two ship and didn't even have the time to turn back and do the second scripted kill
>>584585291Third person makes the mission much easier, as does knowing that you just need to target the engines. I hated it the first time around but had no problems afterwards.
>>584585529I don't even know how you could slowly chase in a freaking mig31But yeah the 31 is the best at climbing to the ceiling on short notice and diving down on the ladonsMore people need to be familiar with ww2 carrier loiter and defense strategies
>>584585079They still have shit tracking and it makes the missions way easier than something like Schwarze squadron from Zero, which still gets me sometimes. AC6 also had a ton of targets shooting at you and still had a one-hit-kill Ace difficulty. 7 and 8 just made the game a lot easier for a wider audience.
Can I get the Sotoan Impressed pic?Remind me why Baxter decided to shittalk the enemy when they were not even 1 meter away in an enclosed room?
>>584585895
Is it possible to destroy one of the two ladon before their first pass over the ships?I asssume it's impossible to shoot one down before they hit the other squadron, you *can* shoot one before that point if you anticipate their trajectory but there's surely not enough time before they fire their missiles
>>584577785It's not, don't know why people here glaze it so much (only the zerofags)It's basically a Tom Clancy's HAWX clone with some AC fanfare into it
>>584585624I know I failed my first attempt in cockpit modeI actually don't like 3rd person since the game soft asks you to fly half 8's to attack from above and below to avoid the defenses and attacking from above obscures the ladonsWhat worked for me was>FPS mode>If I lose sight just fly high, stay clear of the clouds, fly in-between the large fucking jammer sphere and the ships I'm defendingAnd bam, always ready to pounce
>>584585895Should've slammed his head against the wall while he wasn't looking.
>>584585738the foxhound is oddly sluggish in this game. shitty acceleration or something. overly nimble though
>>584585529You don't even need to plot intercept routes for them, there's always the scripted moments where they will go slow and you can catch them even in a slow plane.
>>584585559>5'08CoolI'd like to see some speedruns of that mission, I bet they'd be funny
>>584586036Basically what worked for me too.
>>584585895>>584585952Oops
>>584585895Baxter just can't stand nomads
>>584585981I think it's possible, but you'd need to place yourself and your team for a perfect morgan nuke barrage when they enter the map, and then you'd need to be ungodly precise with the TLS laser
Is this tier list meant to be about gameplay, vibes, story impact, replayabilty? I kinda just put how much fun they sounded like if I opened free mission right now.
>>584586193just takes this little maneuver
>>584585889Let's not pretend zero aged well in some fightsIf you get the wrong plane it's holding down on the stick trying to turn fight with superior planes early onNot exactly riveting gameplay compared to 7 or 8The real problem is it takes until late game for them to throw the savians at you, and those guys make sure to fire missiles from good anglesAnother thing is missiles seem to do variable damage, anywhere from 10-50% depending on your attempts to dodge, but there are cases where you can die to 2-3 hitsIt seems like they wanted to punish lack of correct speed management and defensive maneuvers, as doing neither seems to be what causes 30-40% damage missiles
>>584585981I managed to destroy one of the engines before the first pass so shooting one down might be possible
>>584586413Boo
>>584585981nope. i've tried it with >>584586413 i wanted to see if you could save banker squadronthey're unkillable until they nuke the first ship. you can damage all their engines and whatnot before that but they won't actually die until after that sequence
>>584585895>Remind me why Baxter decided to shittalk the enemy when they were not even 1 meter away in an enclosed room?Real question is why he didn't just shoot them when he had the chance?
>>584586413Are you implying i cheated?Because that would make me feel abnormally good
>>584564529Out of all the ones I played?Zero > 8 > 5 (Story) > 6 (Gameplay) > Infinity > 04 > 6 (Story) > X2:JA > 5 (Gameplay) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AH demo
>>584586412Why not all?A mission should be fun and good and memorableOne that can't be everything can only be so good
>>584586413Fag
Got an emergency sortie, buddies, anyone interested?
>>584585981I saw a Japanese guide where he has a flight path that puts him right on the same path as the Ladons when they go for their first run. Theoretically I think you can take it out if you have a good enough loadout. Fighter + damage parts + 8AAM + HPAA. See around 7:30 for reference.https://youtu.be/zJ2YDaCaNOw
Man AC8 is really stacked, I think it has the most missions I would call great out of all of the games
>>584586827they're unkillable until their first pass
>>584586457I should say on the note of saviansThe fact that they only provide constant excellent missile pressure for one mission is baffling it's trueBut they tried different hazards this time around>Guns discourage straight attack vectors>SAMs discourage high angles of attack>Airburst guns force you to rerouteThe interplay of ground forces in AC8 is something it's never been, and that's actually interesting and engagingAnd no I don't think lmao 100% damage missiles and 15% damage gunfire is fun by comparison and I'm sorry that's your baseline for what a game needs to be to be fun
I actually liked two on the run
>>584585559>>584586413In case any of you niggas think i cheated i can give you the replay
>>584563458>No EML/QAAM/SASMWhat is this pussy shit
>>584586616I got accused of metagaming by an ESL because jackpot 9 didn't die in my playthroughsPeople can't fathom other people doing better than them at this hour
>>584587079have to put training weights on so the noobs can play too
Couldn't remember some of the lower ranked missions, the sole F is reserved for the mission that was effectively just a cutscene. Overall 8 has a superior balance of good missions compared to past titles and future DLC will probably make it even better. If PA can deliver something even half as good as Alicorn I'll make it my top AC game of all time
>>5845870266'28 isn't 5'08...>>584587123>I spend all day on 4chanNice flex dork?
>>584585054>It is not difficult and you don't need that much ammo, you just need to hit your targetYeah sure now tell the devs to take notes from fucking 2001 year game how plane should be controlled with mouse and how throttle should have scale with positions instead of full or zero with auto returning to 0.>>584585559Nice for you. I have 1200 points more tho.
>>584587494Son of the Mask lookin ass
>>5845873456'29 is the lenght of the replay, considering the chatter that happens after. 5'08 is when the timer stops when you kill the ladons, i think it works like that
>>584587345>Shitposting on company timeYeah? How's employment prospects in Europe you fuck?
>>584587079>not using metashit in for pussiesRetard
>>584587597i'm just fucking with you buddy
anyone still got that tranalated "alga, sotoa" pic?
>>584587676sorry i'm retarded
>>584586645shit, forgot about 7.Probably going to put that between 6 (Gameplay) and INF.
>>584587123Nah it was like >>>heeey, i so better in this game than my brother so he don't save the girl while i can>>but you no need to be actually good, you need only know where to fly and destroy some aa>ree esl go back to farms and don't belittle my greatness
It will never happen because it would be too much for the devs and it would create all sorts of trouble defining the canon of the story in the general timeline, but I would like an AC game where there's a whole ass world war and you can play as pilots from let's say 3 or 4 different countries, and with each you get unique wingmen, unique planes and skins, and while each character gets unique missions you also get to participate in pivotal events of the war from different perspectives Or maybe I wouldn't actually like it but it sounds cool to me idk
>>584588024>you are god-tied pilot with over 9000 confirmed kills>it change nothing since enemy deploy 100500 planes more than your country
>>584587494>So, no ECM?
>>584587943The fact that you latched onto me saying I was better says more about your insecurities than anythingThe point I was making was that immortal squad guy softens and gets more desperate/"believes in wings" the worse the mission does, which happens to correspond with jackpot 9 dying horriblyBut you chose to latch onto the fact that it's apparently impossible to get an S and inadvertantly avoid jackpot 9 dying first tryBecause you're a retard
>>584587079You haven't played 7? That shit was just unfun to play against.
AC8 should let you unlock upgraded versions of a particular plane similar to how it worked in AC5.
>>584588332Holy ESL.Calm down, dude.
>>584588426Yeah, that would've been awesome
>>584588426All those meme variants will come in the future as paid DLC, don't worry.
That reminds me that I had a dream the other night where people were discussing Tasha and Kate and I brought up Jackpot 9 and someone called her "slop" and I got annoyedI need to take longer breaks from 4chan
Fuck meme variants. I want to fly shitty Soviet carrier planes.
X planes NOW
>>584588716I actually think that happened. We either shared the same dream anon or we're inside each others head?
>>584588332And you start lying again and again.1: i said that your brother play in blind where you are metawhore2: i said that S rank can be obtained be person with kbm that plac ac series first time.3: i said that in mission your task is support ground forces in a city and there 3 orange blobs and you can't wipe all map before jp9 die.No more important was said, the rest was just trashtalk.But it hurt you THAT much so you start to put things from your ass and attack a person instead of attack an argument. Very thinskinned you are and very believe in your greatness, while also liar and moron, aren't you?
>>584588817Did they specifically say slop? I think it was about her dialogue or somethingI was definitely asleep when this happened, so either we are telepathically connected or I'm shitposting in my sleep, and either way I'm more worried
>>584586115Yes, but it's obnoxious waiting for that moment
>>584588757Strange that we never had a Yak-141 in the game now that you make me think about it, not even as a NPC enemy
>>584588838It didn't hurt me at allI got an S and jackpot 9 was releasing foxes as late as m28Meanwhile the person I was watching for a C and jackpot 9 crashed and burnedIf that's a reason to feel bad then I guess I really am feeling bad?
I want COFFIN plane variants
>>584588716I've become so utterly sick of that word.
>>584588946I don't know buddy but if either of us start thinking about the promised land it would be time for concern.
>>584589080Way too much Hornet/Tomcat wanking.
>>584588426We can't even get a YF-23 in AC8 we're never getting any of the fun experimentals. F-15S at best.
>>584589080We had it as enemy in AC2. It was the only time, however.
>>584588716>>584588817i was there as welldon't know if it was 4chan or my dreams. I've been breathing ace combat 8 for the last 18 days so my brain is all fuzzy, i'm almost at 200 hours
>>584588838If you write like this you may as well post in your native language and let the rest of us run it through an AI translator, it'd be less painful to read
>>584589080I swear it was in AC2?
>>584589282Oh didn't know it, AC1 and AC2 are the only one in the saga i didn't play. Thanks
>>584589303How do you save this bint
>>584589303All we all fragments of Nemo?
>>584587490Yes, they should take notes from Freespace 2 and just make flight controls keyboard only. The mouse is only good for looking around.
Kinda weird to think that Rena Hirose is not only alive during AC8, but just joining the Night Raven project.
>>584588795nigga all i want is fenrir nukes
>>584589163That was definitely part of what annoyed meMaybe it'd be less alarming if it was something that actually happened, my brain's resident contrarian shitposter shouldn't be so authentic>>584589165>>584589303Are all us Jackpot bros linked in the Electrosphere or what
>>584589282Huh guess was right. It also made me realize I think that might be the only Yak aircraft that was ever in AC?
>>584589128Yeah but whyWe essentially got those in AC7 didn't we? They were HAL9000 red light clanker mother fuckers
>>584589487Kill the ground targets Jackpot squadron is attacking during Mission 8, specifically at the part where Jackpot, Joker and Queen flights split up to tackle their little groupsI've done it by cleaning up Joker's group first, then their's, but doing their's first instead probably wouldn't hurt
>>5845645295=0>8>7>4>X (havent played any others bc only have time for the good ones)
>>584589487Retaking of Theve IIYou must clean the Inland artillery position before Jackpot arrives and you have to kill the shadows fast when they comeAfter that Jackpot 9 will try to get in your pants until the very end of the game, and canonically, she watches you and kate do gloveless handholding
>>584589487All i did that mission was focus all my efforts on red targetsMore points= more favorable chatter=less dead folk
>>584589875Speaking of gloves it drives me crazy that cosplayers and artists don't recognize she's wearing a shoulder brace and a compression glove for her wristKate is busted the fuck up
>>584589517Isn't she 9 years old or something by that point?That could be a fun DLC set of missions, dealing with the child pilot prodigy (like Tasha but more adorable/tragic)
>>584589526put baxter sending some random shitpost about plants on wikicommons, or searching for tasha, and D.D. asking you to like a post on facebook and it would be PERFECT
>>584589875Since Tasha said she'd never shoot a fighter jet weapon again, there's at least one open slot in King squadron...It's good to be the King, after all
>>584588536Why did they shrink the roster so much between 5 and 0?I understand people hated kill rate. I'm definitely not gonna 100% the game in future playthroughs. But it was a good system thst just needed a numbers tweak to be less grindy
>>584587313Two on the run felt like the mission was stolen from a GTA online heist
>>584590253We need an AC datesim yesterday
>>584587079A holdover from 7's wackass multiplayer balancing. EML especially was blatantly broken, able to oneshot anything with no warning and utterly fucktarded hitboxes with upgrade parts.
>>584590253Tasha will renounce that vow in a sequel or DLC after BELKA causes some tragedy that will force her to take to the skies and protect what she loves.
>>584589108>It didn't hurt me at allSo much didn't hurt so you get so heavy butthurt so i saw how sky was illuminated even from my location when you got launched with ass thrust. Also did you go back from LEO, or you posting from space?>>584589324Nah broken English it's half fun of posting on 4chan.
>>584589526>Tasha asks for help with her homework>Rex only knows the history of the aces of Strangereal>He gives her an extremely detailed account including stuff that happened in Electrosphere>She hands her report into Baxter>Baxter immediately requests a psychiatrist for Tasha
I can't believe I'm saying this but I wish ACO was a free to play game. It might as well be with the monetization and it's let consolefags play without having to pay Microshaft or Snoy for the privilege to play kusoge.
>>5845677128's missions and story were great but the destruction missions in 7 were the best they have ever made them, even if the story was kind of lacking.
i was hoping i'd get to shoot down that tonitrus satellite myself with some kind of meme spaceplane, not just disable some related thing on the groundmaybe next game
>>584590660She's seen too much of this war Rex...
>>584590660I love destructions missions, and honestly, i don't think anything in the whole saga tops Rocky Island Part II for groundpounding
>>584590514Brat will get bored of flying normal aircraft and seek the thrill of combat which will eventually cause her to cross paths with King flight but this time on opposite sides.
The guidance on SAAMs is really not good enough for the amount of skill they demand from the player.
>>584590523Well as 5:08 anon suggested it youre going to accuse me of metagaming and cheating that's more of an ego boost than anythingI'm a fucking newtype
>back to farming Lifeline to get a carroer plane
>>584563845uhhh some flavor of hammered dulcimer?
I don't even know why I even bother with AC multiplayer its the same shit every time they try it. >Oh the other person's plane can high G for longer than yours or has QAAMs you instantly lose. Amazing skill expression potential and FUN
>>584590660Long Day is better than Lifeline, at leastLifeline is just too flat, Long Day at least had the canyon base and the tunnel
I just remembered the people inside land battleship 2 were cooked alive.
>>584591304Roast Sotoan Kebab.
>>584591304https://youtu.be/aH_j2lnQNrUThey sure did.
>>584590958>Amount of skillRegular missiles work from "right up their ass" rangeSAAMs are good if you have a good tailI personally like to pace out my missiles to maintain pressure, and I haven't fired a double missile in a long timeThat type of "tail and annoy" play lends itself pretty natty to saams
>>584591304I wish we could do that to every S*toan
>>584591210That's always going to happen unless you make it so all players in the match are in the same plane with the same weapons, and they're never gonna do that. Ace Combat PVP cannot not be shit
>>584591003And now you drag also cheating from your ass.Lol. Lmao even.
>>584591404>>584591304Reminded me of>CUT US LOOSEfrom Homeworld.
>>584591404That's why you need to buy an air fryer
>>584590775That angle was developed and delivered so poorly it felt like part of a checklist>>584590514Imo Tasha, coster, or cope all have main character tropey backgrounds or writingYou could give either of them the rex callsign and it probably fit in some draft
>>584591574>We might have that moment in Electrosphere 2 once we get to the nanomachines againVIRUS ALERT
I saw someone calculated based on the given range of the Land Battleship's cannon that Strangereal Earth is about half the size and half the gravity of our Earth. Is that the reason they have Mass Drivers sprinkled around like highways for space travel? Why even build a space elevator when you could get to space via Kingda Ka?
>>584591210If you were losing to the TLS you'd have a point. However QAAMs aren't even that good in AC8 multi. SASMs are better playerkillers.
>>584591304>>584591404Fuck around find out.
>>584591304The only tragedy is that there were no broiling incidents or opportunities on fatsia
>>584591771>allied landship during mission>all seems fine>[Hostile AI Warning]>takes over the friendly landship and friendly fighters
>>584591792Maybe the projectiles/propellants the landships use are just that ridiculous instead
>>584591835Bruh the best part is >Everyone is begging to be let out>Deck officers hauling water and shit to rehydrate the crew>Captain is literally being performative because he engages the AI anyways so you don't need the crew but they all need to die because s*toan commanders are all performative
>>584592107>the water is boilingth-thanks
>fucking with the build planner>look at the Game>it has SASM, a SASM radius boosting ability on top of the two SASM radius parts and a 1.2x A2A damage multiplierI kinda wanna do this now, this seems toxic
>>584591404somehow I didn't notice any of this in the mission what with all the MISSILE ALERT RAILGUN WARNING and being too busy dodging a billion things in the skypretty dark stuffwhat is sotoa's fucking problem?
>>584592194Well the good news is it can't get any hotter than 100 degrees, which is likely cooler than the air and water vapor actively being added to the air
>>584591304<<sotoan death screams of unimaginable pain>>
>>584592215It's the best attacker hunter in the game but it does get a bit cucked if the attacker has an ECM pet shadowing him around.
>>584591803I've not encountered a single person using the SASms so far, i'd say a good 90% of my deaths are QAAMs, i don't even think i've been shot down by a normal missile or guns once.
>>584591304>>584591404I understood them being cooked alive, i didn't know it then switched to automatic control, rendering Balios a ghost ship.It's even more cool to know that BALIOS whas the immortal horse of Achilles, that staid alive even after the hero died.
>think about feeling bad for landship crew>remember they bombed Expo City and are chute poppersOh well.
>>584591304
>>584592236SameIt's been said the chatter music and warnings are overwhelming and it's trueIt's also a skill and once your brain learns to tune that shit out you become better at the game and the replays also feel different>>584592215You're playing onlineToxic is the name of the GAME
>>584592385If you get better and increase your MMR you'll see plenty of SASMs. You'll know you're doing it right once you're getting nothing but difficulty 3 in warfare and matches often time out because the game can't find enough players.
>>584591946>You can hear the biology of the people on board breaking down over the comms as it gets chewed by grey gooIn my mind it's kind of like how Neo screams just before he gets unplugged from the Matrix for the first time
purple magic flight ...
>>584591404By the time the air gets to like 60 or 70C they wouldn't even be able to scream anymore, just breathing in would cook their lungsHey maybe some of those dudes had handguns or something and offed themselves before they could turn into kebab
All the traitor squadrons should have been put up against a wall. I will NOT fly alongside traitors that only showed up when the war was already won.
>>584592365>The most agile and fastest plane is going to have problems with attackersI know the gun is comically offset but surely it can gun them down
>>584592107
>>584592645Same with the politicians who decided to break up the federation.
>>584592667Never do this in a saunaenthalpy of evaporation will fuck you up
How do squad commands even work in 5. I select the target I want, I order them to attack and they just don't do shit. Spent 10 minutes flying around the mountain in Closure after I'd run out of ammo and they couldn't finish the fucking rock.
>>584578523>weaker than ac1wot
>>584590660The only thing I dislike about 7 is that the hitboxes are fucky. I don't know if it's the ships or the planes or what, but something about the intuition I built up in every other AC game is off and when flying in first-person view I wind up colliding with things I feel that I should've passed close to but not hit. I'm not sure if it's that the ships are more detailed, or that the old first person view used to change the hitbox of the plane, or what, but it can be annoying, especially when checkpoints are non-existent and would be useless anyway.(Yeah, yeah, you can also crash into the ground 19 minutes into Whiskey Corridor, but when I fly into the ground like an ass I know I fucked up, while when I randomly explode passing by a ship I just sunk, I feel gypped.)Hasn't happened in 8 yet for whatever reason.
>>584592870>forward attackAttacks what is in front of the player>dispersed attackFuck off to do whatever.>CoverAttacks what is behind the player
>>584592870bro your gun?
>>584593071RAN OUT OF GUN TOO
>>584592645Missed opportunity to let Rex be the Ace Combat equivalent of Konrad Curze.
>>584592870You really can't rely on Wardog/Razgriz, there's a screen where you can see their kills and they're always impressively lowI'm fairly certain they do reduced damage to most targets, it's probably even worse against objectives that you're supposed to hit
>>584593026So I can't just have them focus a specific target?
>>584593110nigga howi literally never ever ran out of ammo in that mission, how did you do it
>>584593110In all my years I have not conceived of this as possible
>>584593275Nope. It kinda sucks, especially if you give them ground attack planes.PA should consider new briefing mechanics where you can give more specific orders.
>>584592870Forward atrack (up) makes them focus whatever is in front of you. Disperse makes them pick targets around you freely. Cover makes them target things targeting you as well as perform defensive maneuvers like popping their own flares between you and a missile. The damage they do when they're not using special weapons is very low.
>>584593149If I eat a broiled sotoan will the cope voices leave my head
>>584593312I was cleaning out everything around, had like 15 missiles and 4 ugbs left. Fed all of that to that mountain and it wasn't enough. I'd used up all my gun on shit around. Might've overdone in an attempt to score enough points I guess.
>>584593495>Will the Sotoan ghost stop haunting me if I eat more SotoansGee I wonder
>>584592215Well I did meet one that was probably lvl20 and practically didn't let the other team play, so yeah I would say its pretty toxic.
>>584593361AC is always trying to balance arcadey simplicity with mechanical depth and it rarely leans towards depth That will always be a franchise limitation
>>584593351I ran out of gun in Desert Arrow as well.
>>584593689I don't disagree, but we have always had the briefings and it's a perfect place to add in some Rainbow Six style mission planning mechanics.
>>584593615N-nothing goes to waste
>>584592649The Su-34s low-speed turnrate is no joke, and you're going to get 1v2d if you're playing solo hunter. If you're hunting with 2 or more players you're risking getting jumped by the entire enemey air team and that's a fight you'll lose, the FA-36 does not have the highspeed turnrate to handle big furballs where you HAVE to keep your speed up.Also the Fa-36 is neither the fastest nor the most agile plane at lvl 20. The fastest is the Gripen, the most agile is shared between the Su-57 and F-22.
I've noticed HAWX shills can never get the name right.
>>584593925Only Sotoans like HAWX.
>>584593813I like depthI like having buttons to pressI like nioh2I just don't think AC has it in the books unless they get a new director with a new vision>>584593691I just can't conceive of how this is possibleI used to watch future weapons on the discovery channel and learned the A10 runs out of gun ammo in less than 4 seconds of a fully depressed triggerIt always blows my mind when people hold down the trigger for more than 1 second at a timeAlso learn your gun ranges It's like 4500 or something
>>584593925>HAWX shillsWhen was the last time anybody was shilling that?
All I'm saying is that Assault Horizon wasn't that bad.
>>584593925It's not like they're shilling it because they like it, they're shilling it because they hate Ace Combat
>>584594114Did you Dogfight Mode your way to that opinion or did you actually get there on your own
>>584594240I watched it on Youtube.
>>584594068Didn't it have integration with another game at some point?Or am I confusing the fact that HAWX air support simply showed up in one of the games
>>584594114it killed the franchise for a decade, it could've been a 10/10 and doing that would still downgrade it to a 0/10.
>>584594048If the A10s in Ace Combat had the same amount of ammo as the ones on the discovery channel, people would have way worse ammo problems than they do now
>>584593925Are the HAWX shills with us in the room right now?
>>584594048I don't really experience this problem TOO often and I've never had it in any other AC game.I don't even remember having it during my last playthrough eons ago.
>>584594114Is the shinden 2 cool? YesDo I like barrel rolling in a chopper? YesDo I like playing the bomber girl? Yes bombers are coolBut why the fuck would you make DFM mandatory
>>584594114Genuinely the multiplayer was the best fun I've had>attacking opposing airbase>destroying and capturing FOBs for forward spawns>Bombers when route to enemy base is open>tactical nuke available on killstreak>kickass musicAnd not to mention that the callsign you picked would be fully voiced>Mobius 2 bandit down>Wardog 3 beginning bombing runIt's been a downgrade ever since despite some peaks during Infinity
>>584594431they're in the walls actually
>>584594508>Is the shinden 2 cool?no, it looks retardedthe bomber mission was fucking cool though, they should bring that one back
>>584594423I'm saying there's no reason to hold down the trigger for more than 2-4 seconds at a time, which is how you run out of ammoAnd carriers or other large craft tend to have too much AA pressure for such a comically slow, long, straight attack run
>>584594681YOU look retarded
>>584589526You forgot Tewy. What would she say? Fuck Enso, Im bombing Thieve?
>>584594792yesbut so does the shinden
>>584594681The shinden 2 being shoji kawamori's only creative contribution to the franchise is a travestyHe should design one actually real strange plane
>>584591304They deserved it. Assholes.
>>584594114I am puzzled they shilled AC8 as the biggest multiplayer when AH had 8 game modes, two with 16 player limit, and customizable planes, missile smoke and emblems. Great music as well. If the game had DFM modded out, the garbage third person camera fixed, it would be decent. Fuck the story though and fuck the sheer amount of one liners all the characters seem to dish out.<< Bishop! >><< Colonel! >><< Illich! >><< Guts! >><< Damn! >><< Shit! >>
>>584595184DFM kind of worked in multiplayer because it was an optional high risk high reward strategy. It was fucking awful in SP though.
>>584592667Do you have a webm of the SEETHING XO burning up?
why is 8 the first game to give you the canon plane as the starter planethey could have done a navy F-4
>>584595184I'm forgetting if this was first featured in 6 or AH
>>584595705Definitely remember it in 6.
>>584592796elaborate
>>584564529My Personal ranking is 8~4~6>0>5~7. After beating 8 I had a very strong feeling of "This might be my new favorite Ace Combat". I'm a 7babby but 4 just hits in a way I can't really explain, and I like how the battles feel in 6.
>>584564863I suspect there’s going to be at least one laser equipped plane as DLC, since there’s a couple medals for getting kills with laser weapons. And surely they wouldn’t add medals that can only be gotten with one plane, right?
How the hell did i beat ace difficulty in ACX long ago before i was even a teen if it was so hard
>>584595791I had people discussing how they were pranking each other with cold water in a dry sauna and it ended up causing burns or some shit, idk, it is hearsay at the end of the day
New Kate dropped
>>584595634For the same reason that retard baby mode settings are the default and why they comissioned the godawful live action shorts. They want new players to the franchise and most of those new players are going to be lowest common denominators. Everyone knows the F-14 and F-18. The F-4 isn't as well known and mamy people will think it looks wierd or lame.
>>584596065because as a teen you didn't have any other worries in your head than beating the stupid plane game
Tasha > Kate
>>584596150Kate doesnt ever have a smug or mischievous attitude
>>584596150Boovs too bihfg
>>584596150I love how everyone unanimously agreed that the bags under Kate's eyes are an integral part of her charm.
>>584591304While playing the mission live I didn't even realize what was happening.
>>584596269A lot of fanart now doesn't even care about a character's actual personality, it's always>OH MOMMY STEP ON MEgarbage.Like in reality, Kate is a shellshocked stoic. She has almost no personality because she's lost everything and has no energy to have a personality.
>>584596229I used to think the f4 looked weird and lame as a boyThe FAGOT always looked better to meWhen it comes to planes the US rarely wins in the looks department No, not even the raptor
>>584596229>Everyone knows the F-14 and F-18i don't know, i don't think kids these days are that familiar with those, especially the f-14 which is 50+ years old and was retired before some buddies in this thread were even bornalthough i guess there was top gun 2 recently for the f-18
>start deathmatch>the one EW nigger activates the fart cloud>match is ruined
>>584595634F/A-18E is technically the canon plane. You start with an F-18C.
>>584596029You can use the Morgan in single player on NG+ if you have it for online. The super plane for 8 has drones that shoot lasers too, but I hear they suck.
>>584596432>Kate is a shellshocked stoic. She has almost no personality because she's lost everything and has no energy to have a personalityShe's not stoic thoughShe just goes 0-100 for squabbling and combative banter
>>584596435American planes only look truly gorgeous in the 1st and 4th gensRussia has only ever made one good looking jet, the Flanker familyEuropean triangleplens are cool, but those came after decades of turds and don't even get me started on british planes
>>584564529Ranking of likingness:Zero > 6 > 04 > 8 > 7 > X > 5 > Infinity > 2 Remake > 3 > 2 > AH > 1Time sunk the most into:Zero > Infinity > 6 > 7 > (maybe around ~24 hours for the rest)I haven't played Joint Assault or Advanced.
>>584590458>AC8 DLC>It's just a highschool drama where you play Tasha going back to school trying to live a normal life and get a boyfriend>>584596150Coster and Tasha really do look like siblings in this artwork.
>>584596773I'm sorry, but I love this stupid thing.It is so min-maxed it wraps around to being endearing. Same with the fishbed.
>>584597012It's cool as shit in the same retarded bonkers way many cold war designs are cool, but it's not pleasant to look at
>>584596242No im trying to reflect on>one hit kill missiles>4 aa pixel hits = death
>>584596773I for one like>The avro vulcan>The lancaster bomber actually having a protocol for coordinating an evasive barrel roll with its tail gun>The gloster meteorAs for the russians>The flanker familyI like how absurd the mig 31 looksYou can't tell me the mig 1.44 isn't a more aesthetically proportioned typhoonAnd I like alot of jet era migs
>>584597012I could understand Fulcrum (if you paint it somewhat cool) but THIS
>>5845679156>7
>>584597259It looks like a toy. It's so stupid it's great.
>>584597012I have a soft spot for the SU-22 myself.
>matchmaking is so shit now I got put in a 2v3 assault matchevery day this shit is getting worse and worse
>>584594431Yes, I am here. Hello.I wish Ace Combat gunpods were like HAWX’s where you don’t have to switch to them to use them, they just add to your regular gun.
>>584597226Okay fair, I forgot the MiG 1.44 and that one does look beautiful, but it's also basically paperwaffeAlso I know I'm also in this and anons will mock me but I find the Typhoon extremely aesthetically beautiful from pretty much any angle except the two seater variant, that's just awful
>>584597356I kind of like the MiG-23 for a similar reason. Like if you told a child to draw a jet fighter this is probably what they would draw.
>>584597259A plane being 85% engine is cool as fuckIt says so much about the batshit it was designed to tackle
>>584597454I've given up. Not worth the time waste of waiting forever just to finally get a room I'll be disconnected from.
>>584596773all the flankers are uglythe Fulcrum is the only good looking russian plane
>>584596518I was talking about multiplayer medals.
For me it's the F9F.
>>584597545>Being an X plane lessens a planeNuh uh!
>>584596773Mig29 is nice too. Curvy in all the right places.
>>584597735I must be biased towards insane designsI think my favorite go-to US plane has to be the starfighterThe silver plate look is just too good for it
Does your plane have variable-sweep wings?Then it's cool.I'm a simple man.
>>584597791>I know I'm also in this and anons will mock me but I find the YF-23 super uglyVery unique and it does have a cool sort of sci-fi quality to it, but not pretty
>>584598005The tornado looks dopey as fuck idk how a company can make such an aesthetically ugly proportioned plane
ORI WA EAGLE DA!!!VROOOOOM KINOOOOO BAASED BASED!!!!
>>584598110I will admit it looks bizarre but that's what proper stealth is>This plane only needs to be minmaxed for speed and radar signatureThe raptor isn'tBut at the end of the day the 23 just looks so much cooler than the raptor
>>584596229>>584596502That reminds me of that one comic talking about people really into a thing vastly overestimate how much the general public knows about said thing.
>>584596269>anon learning artists don't actually consume the media they draw art ofaww, that's cute
>>584598165Viper won.Eagle lost.
What plane attracts 'those' kinds of people?
I hope we can all at least agree that no matter how ugly you think this or that plane is, pre-5th gen variety is still better than every new plane looking like different degrees of mystery meat F-35 and 6th gens just looking flat and featureless
>>584591404bro what the fuck
>>584598383What can I say, why draw what cosplayers already do?>>584598472The raptorParticularly with ISAF markings and QAAMs
>>584598373yesI think if you gathered 500 normies and showed them a bunch of photos of jet fighters probably less than a dozen would be able to identify any of them by name
>>584597545The Typhoon has the nicest proportions of all the current eurotriangles and the only part that lets it down a bit is the boxy intake.
>>584598472The F-22 is pretty much for MLG quickscope niggers at this point.
>>584598482Ive only ever liked one aircraft that was "f-22" esque and it wasn't even a fuckin plane
>>584591946The comms going from humans to automated messages to AI babble ala Triumphant would be haunting.
>>584598716I see eurofighters almost every day flying on top of my headsuch beautiful machines
I really enjoy the Rio Bajo music.
F-16C online, kek or cringe
>>584598704They would, however, recognize the F-14, 18, and 22 more than anything else.
>>584599001if it can shoot morgans down its based
The Morgan is such a blatant P2W plane. TLS and ECM is so fucking disgusting.
Man if liking this thing makes you gay I don't want to be straight!
>>584599126a weapon to surpass ECM shittery
>>584599083Yes but only because they would assume every plane is one of these 3And every plane that isn't is probably a mig
>>584598472TLS Morganiggers
>>584599126It's notIt's a pay 2 ruin the experience for othersFrankly every implementation of a design decision (or lack thereof) achieves this in ACO so you might as well not care or join the crowd
>AC0 still not a separate downloadCome on I want something to play on my shite laptop.
>>584599251I can't think of a plane with massive freaking canards that isn't aesthetic as hell
>you can flare for your escort targets to protect themKino
>>584599001Nimble and has access to QAAMs, so not a bad pick if you wanna dive in and start a furball
>>584596432>When flying over the landed podrages kate throws a comment about the sotoans having a fixiation with size, implicating they are compensatingshe can throw some banter alright
>>584598482I've been in love with the F-22 ever since I played C&C Generals as a wee lad.
>>584599352Yeah but it's not on a super agile plane that also has the delete laser that wins every dogfight and makes ratefights irrelevant.
>>584599784Thats probably because all the units in CnC have great lines
Dirty plen
>>584599701I still remember the first time i saw this plane in AC5, used by the 8492nd, and thinking about how it was the fucking coolest thing ever made in the history of humanity
>>584599884The only reason rate fights are irrelevant are because you can crash your plane with no penalty, laze someone and then do it againThat's hardly the planes' fault and once again a severe issue with who made the rules for that game mode
>>584600001Yeah I also like the 2-D thrust vector flaps more than the 3D crown of thorns thrust vectoring
>>584599708AI will also do this to protect you in game.
>>584600073No, they're irrelevant because you can just PSM and delete laser someone in a 1v1, rate doesn't matter. This doesn't apply to any other SPW or even the gun. SASMs are actually quite bad against eurodeltas going ratemaxxing at 1400-1800kph. And QAAMs can't even touch them.
>>584600269Well as I said turn especially doesn't matter since you can just respawn and laze someone with a clear aim
>>584594975I would have felt worse had this mission not occurred directly after the mission where Girlish Topkek commits one of thr gravest sins in aerial combat. I'm glad they died. I hope he heard them dying. I hope he had to listen to every single Gemma nugget go down in flames too. If it were up to me, Sotoans would be forced to live in mandated diaspora until their lineages entirely faded and their cultural relevance became relegated to history books and museums.
>>584593020Having Sicario and other mercs so vehemently against continuing the war after the second calamity and getting doxxed only to do a 180 after the Cascadians whip out a fucking mystery box is worse to me than AC1's "here's a bunch of money, win the war for us pls kthx." I'd rather have a simple borderline nonexistent story than a retarded contrived one.
>>584600205Flat is Justice.
>>584600468The worst part about the Sotoans is they don't feel bad about it or have any regrets.Like Topkek at the end is all "oh, an excellent fight, i will see you in the promised land"No, bitch. I hope there is a hell for people like this faggot.
>>584600405But that's just wasting your 3 star status. The TLS, and the morgan are uniquely OP in a way that no other plane is. It's not abusing some universal mechanic.And if someone ever tries to dogfight you at close range with SASMs you just activate ECM and fuck them over.
>>584600601I played AC7 in cockpit view and already was astonished, AC8 made my dick hard in that aspect
>>584589303Yeah I failed to save news lady daughter in my first run I felt bad after the mission was over.
It's a shame the Su-35S has pretty shit Sp.W selection.
>>584598373The only reason I even knew any plens at all before ace combat was growing up with transformers It's for this reason that the F-14/15 and MiG-25 (and by extension, 31) have a special place in my heart
>>584600001Same. It and the MiG-1.44 blew my mind.
The mission 2 landing fakeout was hype as fuck. I don't remember anything like that happening before
The fire riseshttps://www.youtube.com/live/33ypZMfzUuA?si=KMndfw7DA9Lfnh9I&t=14590More members of hololive had the greenlightThis game is almost officially mainstream now
>>584600931I didn't like it. Just left me confused for a moment, in an eyerolling way.Don't mess with the minigames like that, especially the first time they come up. Would have been fine in the 20+ mission section.
>>584600654This is also why their all you can eat nugget buffet was very much fair game for me. If this is the type of pilot their recruits aspire to be like better to slaughter them now and do the whole world a favor. Sotoa needed to face far more consequences of their actions.
I keep forgetting to take superior maneuverability off the SU-47 this shit ROLLS TOO MUCH
>>584601018/vt/ skin collab soon
Why are they speaking spanish? That ain't right At least for Belka, because there are like 3 comments in spanish by seemingly Aurelian posters who I thought were Australian but I guess are Chilean now
>>584601043Take your heart pills granpa
>Friends who updated drivers>constant crashes>Friends who didn't>Perfect stability
>>584591304But anon Sotoans aren't people>>584591916Yeah, during the mission brief I ask the game surrender? who will? I plan to kill everything on that megafloat.To bad we don't have a Night Raven for this mission
>>584601240Ill take quirky fucked up stats on iM@S planes thank you very much
>>584601259The greatest Belkan ethnonationalists are actually Aurelian.
>>584601259>Third world mexicants being cringeI mean was all the DBZ spam for decades not enough of a hint>>584601276UE5 lmoa
>>584570076>can only do vtol if completely unloadedMan who cares it's a video game
>>584601259>Belkans are all hispanicsThis makes too much sense
>faggot in an Su-34 racks up 90k points in the first like two minutes of a warfare match>spend the rest of the match hunting him like a fucking dogThey also need to nerf the fucking foxhound. There's no reason this piece of shit should be able to turn as sharply as it does.
>>584601541YeahAnd probably not even the cool zorro kind either
>>584599726Laughed so hard first time I heard that line I almost crashed.
>>584601259It's a dude from Sapin larping. They are canonically basically just Spain.
I don't care if I lose. I don't care about points. If I see you in a Morgan, a Growler or a Barricader, I'm spending the whole match sending you to the respawn screen over and over again.
>>584600931i dunno if hype is the right word, but it gave me a good laughmostly because i always sucked at carrier landings so i was happy not to have to do one
>>584601259All the jokes about the Sotoans from Dinsmark on benefits are actually more appropriate for Belkan nationalists who are children of Belkan officers living in Aurelia.
>>584599492>franklyreddit tier wordage, the morgan is actually terrible and anyone who's been playing warfare or assault for more than an hour can tell you that the blatant long reload time on both armaments leaves it massively exposed for anyone using LAAM's, QAAM's, a level 2 missile or literally anything else.
>>584601821If you can't dominate with a Morgan then you need to git gud.
>>584601821>Because people on reddit use a word it must be redditWell you would fucking know wouldn't you
It's so fucking retarded how anything with UGBs can btfo any attacker that isn't the Su-34.
>>584601773Morgans get LAAMed, I don't make the rules
>>584601773What's wrong with the Growler? Are people supposed to run the Prowler for their support plane?
>>584601617>map designed to give a fuckton of points to groundpounders>get mad because a player plays the fucking objective>go after him to help your team win, just like the designers intendedNo, anon, Fullbacks are NOT a problem.
>>584602320ESM, ECM or IEWS is for gay retards, I don't make the rules, I simply punish them with guided munitions
>>584602237That's just not true. The Strike Eagle with SFFS is very competitive, almost as good as the Fullback with UGBLs.
>>584602237YeahThankfully everything else is perfectly tuned and fun
bros I don't think I have it in me to farm 25 Million MRP...
>>584602362All metafags are faggots, anon.
>>584563458Based schlopper
>>584586580>>584586827Thanks
Does Alicorn count as a ship for LASM?
>>584602428>fighters with UGBs can compete with all but two attackers and can hang with the second best oneYou don't see a problem with this?
>>584601617>>584602237Why are you mad that I'm playing obj on warfare? nothing says I have to dogfight. my plane isn't designed for dogfighting.
Writers should have made Tasha being constantly put in a timeout as a running gag like solitary was in AC7.
>>584602946this is legit the way to play, one attacker farming points after getting ace and 3 turnfighters able of defending it
>sidekick jumping to take a bullet for you>but he's in a jet fighter and he takes a fucking railgun round>and still manages to land on a carrierThey really turned up the animeClose up of the life leaving his eyes was surprising, I didn't think they would actually go there
>>584602538Blame the game for making a majority of attackers slow pieces of shit with mediocre loadouts, there's 0 fun in using anything that isnt fullback or strike eagle. I'd rock the tornado if we actually had it.
>>584602946Because my dipshit team will never stop you from doing it and the Su-34 and the F-15E are the only attackers that aren't completely worthless trash.
>>584602941Fighters with UGBs are fucking gigatrash. Multiroles with UGBs are okay. But you really want attackers with UGBs/UGBLs/SFFS. Fighters with UGBs can't kill most targets at difficulty 3.
>>584602946Why would you even respond to the Internet equivalent of road rageThose man children aren't wrong, but they're retarded for thinking bitching about it will solve anythingNamely ACO being questionably designed
>>584602538Groundpounders are LITERALLY not a problem. Their max scores are capped by map spawns, while Fullbacks getting UGBLs and 4AGMs makes them incredibly potent a high-leveled UGB plane can do just as well. And like in >>584601617 the counterplay against them is RIGHT THERE, you just have someone attack them and tie them up. Like in a goddamn team, someone plays defense while other players try to score.
>>584603138I really hope they stop doing the>I didn't aim for the cockpitBullshit
>>584603234Difficulty is completely random and does nothing about target density in the first place. >>584603334Putting a lot of faith in people actually playing as a team there.
>>584602478Just wait for awesome plane dlc and use those as an excuse to farm MRP
>>5845645298>04=5=0>6>7>X>2>1=3
>>584599001It's pretty low in terms of cringe. Current high cringe planes are Morgan and Barricader and medium cringe is anything that can load LAAMs.
>>584603467Why, what's wrong with itThe goal is "cool"
>>584601269It actually WASN'T shocking. That's the problem when you try to pull a surprise before a routine is established.
>>584603715>What's wrong with itThe idea that you can deliberately or have a plane deliberately tank "nonessential" hits takes me more out of everything than the idea that at no point did the FCU think to drop a bunker buster on a ship
I actually think 8 might be the new peak of the whole series
>>584603309Nigger where do you think you are?
It's funny that AC8 has only about 8 continental map in the campaign lol, the majority of missions are at sea with little landmass, obviously it makes sense for the naval aviation AC, and the beautiful clouds add diversity, but it's a funny optimisation of development ressources and soft size since I assume that it's easier and lighter to make an ocean map over a highly detailled continentl one.
>>584603503>Difficulty is completely random It really isn't. I'm getting lvl 3 almost always in warfare, It might be tied to your hidden MMR.>does nothing about target density in the first place. It's not about target density, it's about target health. Fighters with UGBs just can't kill anything on higher difficulties, their UGBs basically tickle targets instead of blowing them up.
>>584601269Some people just want to remind you 04 is literally the peak of the franchiseAlso that Dragonball Z and cowboy bebop are peak art
>>584604047>It really isn't. I'm getting lvl 3 almost always in warfare, It might be tied to your hidden MMR.I got a difficulty 2 after winning a difficulty 3. It's an extremely vague and seemingly completely random mechanic.
>Arsenal Bird>Receive the Crater Creator medalLMAO, get bombed nerds
>on mission 27 and I haven't touched russian aircraft at all so farBeautiful machine though
>>584603218If it makes you feel REMOTELY better, I too have to deal with mouth breathers who can't hit select twice to see that I've been purposely putting the enemy fighters in a pattern that leaves their tail exposed to a free missile for like 2 minutes straight. So you're not the only one who experiences a headache playing this game.
>>584601259>>584601738This
>>584604529Belka is the Yakub of Strangereal, spawning a legion of evil monsters who also happen to build the modern world.
>>584598373>people really into a thing vastly overestimate how much the general public knows about said thing.A few months ago, I saw some over the top commercial about something that was all "America fuck yeah. 250 years. Explosions, eagles, barbecues, fighter jets fuck yeah".I lost my shit laughing at the video. I was the only one who noticed that the super patriotic planes flying in formation and doing flips were Flankers.
>>584598881Its only appearance in AC was 2Funny how 2 had so many only shows up in this game stuff>>584600931I knew something was up first time I got to the mission it just felt wrong plus it lacked the hit start to skip button so I knew something was up just didn't know what.>>584601259Did anyone notice Infinity the second? You see it when the Princess is on screen.
>>584601541I mean, I've been saying the Spanish guitars have Belkan guitars for years, not Sapin. Zero, Contact, and Round Table make so much more sense now.
>>584602946>Gryphus>Razgriz>Razgrizpeople that name themselves after in-game characters are always lame fags
>>584604642i really like this artstyle, especially the shading
>>584602627Pls respond
>>584604421Once you wrap your head about doing the Strike aircrafts only medal, the Su-34 will carry you and you'll love it
>>584604642I wish there was a scene like this where the whole squadron is forced to tunnel run.Instead we just get a canyon run with Baxter.
>>584602368I just like playing the support role...
>>584604686Well for me I remember playing comanche with a joystick
They should bring the plane animation button for hangar view
>>584602627No its a flying unicorn of course its a ship LASM is a good weapons to use against it. LACM/SFFS are the best weapons to use against it however.
>>584604225As I said, it depends on your hidden MMR. If yours is just barely high enough to sometimes get diff 3 then it might match you with randos and set it down to diff 2. If you're constantly getting turbosweats in maxxed Morgans(if they're using MPBM they're nuggets) and AC7 oldheads then you'll almost never see diff 2 unless you party up with someone who has a lower MMR.
>>584603951it's ace combat
>>584603138If you didn't kill Gemma over Expo they also cut right to Kate during his long death scene for a double gut punch.
It seems weird to me to include a bunch of Flanker variants but not the original on
>>584603951bruh
>>5845645298>0>5>7>4>CR>X>3>JA>2>6>AH
>>584603951Pixy returned to base with just one wing, it's always been a thing in ac
Has anyone solo'd the campaign in an F-4E? I assume everyone prefers the Fishbed as the MGP platform given it's much better maneuverability.
I've been trying to find a match for 20 minutes now, this game is already fucking dead.
>>584605307Something is fucked with your internet. I find matches in seconds.
Do you know what would be interesting?Rather than AC9 having an ace rival, you instead have a rookie rival. Your first mission is their first mission. The mission where you do something cool like blow up a landship, they do something cool and blow up your carrier. You end up killing one of their wingmen, they do the same in return.Final mission, it is two aces who have come of age in this war, and now only one can survive.
>>584603503>Putting a lot of faith in people actually playing as a team there.Fair. But really, if you care about winning (which doesn't matter much because the reward discrepancy is minimal) you either be the guy who hunts down enemy attackers or groundpound yourself. Game gives more rewards for maxizing your own score, and enemy attackers have zero effect on what you can score.
give me my suisei or my shiori livery.thanks
>>584605212daring today
>>584605147That's because the Su-35 is the modernized version. Including the Su-27 would just be redundant.
>>584605240>In a thread of ideally plane enthusiasts>One dumbass literally cites the one thing thats based in reality as his smoking gunMy standards can only sink so low
>Fullbacks can Cobra
>>584603138i don't get how he tanked a railgun. wouldn't the railgun go through him and into rex anyways
>>584605840Pixy is Israeli?!
>>584605840I'm not full of plane trivia, only plane-based series I've ever played is ace combat and otherwise had little to no interest in jet fighters, besides picking a favorite based on looks. You don't need to be gung-ho on that to enjoy it.
ACO is pretty fun, actually
>>584603951>tank "nonessential" hits
>>584605270You'll need to use a different plane for carrier missions because the F-4E isn't a carrier capable phantom.
>>584605997>I don't know about reality so I'm the best authority on suspension of disbeliefAlright thank you for your opinion
>>584606160it's really not the gotcha you think it is
trigger destroyed a sub-propeller
>>584606074>Flying into flak is the same as magically deliberately telling your fox2 to fuck off from the cockpit
>>584603534B-but I don’t wanna pay money for dlc plane…
kinda disappointed by the first-person segments was hoping you'd be able to walk around and romance tasha or kate
>>584606231It's the gotcha I think it is because it's what I thinkFuck what you think it's something i take issue with, i don't need convincing, and i sure as fuck don't need real life examples to do it, that's worse
>>584606453Yeah, they were just cutscenes with pointless quick time events. Doing things like exploring the ship would have definitely improved the spy plotline, since you could go up and talk to them.
>>584575764>goty>on this pay-to-win advertisment disguised as an awards show>in the same year as>gta6>the ocarina of time remake>resident evil 9>007>witcher 3 remaster>wolverine>all from companies who can actually afford to auction for the goty titleIf the game awards was any authentic then dave the diver wouldn't have even been nominated for best indie award. You cannot compare AC8's sales to Elden Ring, so why are we even pretending a bamco game would win on its own merits?
>>584606578The first person cutscenes in engine are immersive enoughThey should've shown restraint
>>584575764Ace Combat 7 didn't make it on any list. This won't either.
Closer to Assault Horizon I'd get pissed at the pointless QTEs but how they were done I can either disregard them or almost think of them as a parody of themselves.
>>584606897The comparison is just wrong. The exposure AC8 is having is totally new.It's not going to GOTY, but not because of what you're sayinig
>>584605840some nice marketing propaganda right therei love that the skyhawk somehow both hit hard enough to disintegrate into absolute nothing left for photos, yet ejected the pilot completely unharmed at the same time, as if physics isn't allowed into the conversationi also like how the pilot of the f15 says he didn't even know the wing was gone and he thought it was just a cloud of fuel spraying out, yet he decides to full throttle into after burner the 10 miles to the runway anyways, because that's a logical thing to do when you're spraying jet fuel out of your wet wing
>>584605335I don't think it's my internet. I think it's my hidden rating.
dealer's speech after fatsia is super lame bro
What determines if jackpot 9 is alive in free mission?
>>584564529Right now it is:0>8>7>2>3>4>3D>X>6>5>1
>>584607287First AC game?
>>584607287If you want a cringe AWACS just play AC6. Ghost Eye crashes out bigly.
>>584608065So much truth in this image.
>>584575764GTA will go down as one of the biggest disappointments of all time that will completely fail to live up to its hype, but it will sell infinite digital copies, win all the awards, and be glazed by gaming journalists.
>>584605270Yes. UGBs are always useful and HVAAs are good to spam missiles. MGPs are fun, but if you just want a guns only plane the Fishbed and higher tier planes are better BRRRT platforms.
>>584608065"Is it time to run" was nowhere near as kino as "I know, it's a terrible plan. Isn't it?" But reddit hasn't made it that far in the campaign yet.
>>584607032Am i supposed to take this seriously
>>584575764>mixtape and GTA both in the runningit's over
>>584608742"Is it time to run" kickstarts the game. "I know, its a terrible plan. Isn't it?" is when you really become the main character.They're both kino as hell. But yeah the second one really got my blood pumping.
>>584609023>they got photos of it on the ground but nobody saw the plane flying with one wing and decided to take a video or even snap a pic of itsure thing lev
>>584609046Mixtape deserves it more than GTA. Probably one of the best visual novels since Life is Strange.
>Get to Second LieutenantOh hey, maybe I can afford the Felon.>You need to be First Lieutenantmoney isn't even an issue. 100 exp per pilot match is.
>>584608742>>584609049>[[In the grasslands, some golden eagles hunt wolves.]]>[[We may have found one of them.]]
>>584609625>>584609049>>584608742how i felt
>>584606453Yeah honestly, I swear to god back when the debut trailer dropped someone said you'd be able to walk around the carrier and interact with shit, what happened to that?
Does AC8 have Russian bias?
>>584609772It has a "Japan is allied with the US and therefore US planes are more accessible and relevant to us" bias.It doesn't hate Russian planes, after all the SU-47 is a series standard and influenced most of the superplanes, but American toys are closer.
>>584609709My honest reaction
>>584609772AC8 doesn't even have japanese bias
>>584608742>I know, it's a terrible plan. Isn't it?NO>Dives into battle in an F-18C>Everything dies they can't touch me
RAILGUN WARNING
>>584609196Can some other anon chime in ffs
>>584609772Not even close, Russian planes don't cyka blyat outclass everything else for no reason. The most you could say is that the Felon might get a bit more love than it's actually due and the Fishbed flies unreasonably well, but all plens are fun in Ace Combat.>t. ex-wot addict
>>584610284
Replaying mission 29 really made me realize how much more anime this AC is compared to every other post-AC3 one uh.
making the Su-57 stronger than the F22 is proof bandai namco aces supports the invasion of ukraine
>>584609625Who says those lines again?
>>584610847Holy based
my ac8 download finally finished on my slow ass interneti guess it's time to say goodbye to ac7feels kind of bad actually
>>584610847Is it even good in this game? I know it was in 7 because it had the funny Star Wars blasters.
What's a good gamepad under 100$? My random 10$ thing from vietnamese marketplace has dying shoulder buttons.
>>584610909Shadow 99th unit
Just exactly how dumb are Sotoans? >Parks a cruiser right next to a pair of LNG ships>Said cruiser starts shooting at me but doesn't try and get to a safer area.>Destroy the LNG ship>It destroys the cruiser and lights the 2nd LNG ship up which in turn completely destroys an entire arm of the megafloat I get the fuel ship being caught in port during an attack but letting your warship try and engage in battle when parked right next to them??
>>584611086I dunno, buy an old PS4 controller. I did, and like it a lot.
>>584607032Calling other anons to discuss
>>5845645298>5>0>4>7>X>Infinity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Advance
>>584611093Ah right, forgot it was from the same mission.I'm gonna be real that mission sucks fucking ass and the only reason it's so highly rated is because of the dialogue.
>>584611071HCAA and LACM are better loadout options than 4AAM and XSDB. Personally I do better with the F-22's gun, feels like planes slip through my gunburst gaps with the Su-57's slower fire rate.
>>584611071It has QAAMs and LACMs making it top-tier for both ground attack and air attack missions
>>584609772>MiG-31>Su-34>Su-57Maybe, but the Fulcrum is kinda shit.
>>584611145PS4 and 5 controllers are really good. 5 is easier to get working wirelessly than 4 imo3 is the absolute fucking worst and I'm so glad it's not the 2000s trynna get those controllers to work on pc, I fucking hated that shit.There's nothing worse than playing a console game with mkb.
>>584611659I don't care about wireless.
>>584610573The Felon is by far the best plane for SP and the Fullback is the king of warfare in MP.
What a specimen
>M28 shadowsAlright look I get it, you want the fight to feel epic and high stakes and crazy and you want me to enjoy that absolute banger of a theme, that's nice, good jobBut watching these cunts just dodge literally everything I throw at them no matter how good my firing solution is and watching my fucking missiles just straight up veer off and miss right when they're about to hit even when there's no chaff/flares anywhere in the vicinity gets old really fucking quick and turns what could have been a kickass battle into a fucking annoying slog
CALL ME UPSET ME FREEEE
>>584612851Literally seeing my missiles shoot in a straight line instead of at the fucking locked target lmaoThis is some rank S fucking cancer.
>>584562579>I swear one of the cutscene briefing maps shows StonehAngeAnd also Gnome RavEne instead of Ravine.Plus, there's supposed to be a space after Mt., for Mt. Lambert and Mt. Shezna.
>>584612776She looks too well rested. Joking, that's some nice art
>>584612959CALL ME UP, I'VEGOT TO FEEL ALIVECALL ME UP HIGHSET ME FREE TO FLYMY BLUE SKY HOMETHE MILES ALONEI'VE FELL AND FLOWNOH, MY BLUE SKY HOMECall me up...Set me free...Call me up...Set me free...Call me up...Set me free...Now that we're down a guitarist and drummer, this bassist is a one-man band. So it's time for me to go. That's all. Over and out.
>>584612851>>584613070Beat them on my second try, basically just praying they'd stay still even half a second so I could hopefully get a few gun hits in because they're fucking impervious to missilesWhat a fucking abysmal fight
>>584608742>"Is it time to run" was nowhere near as kinoI disagree. I thought that Tasha's horrified reaction really sold that moment.Since it happens early enough in the campaign that you haven't really proven yourself yet, the answer isn't obvious at all, and I felt that the surprise of it worked really well.
>>584612851>>584613791PSMs are pseudo flares that break missile lock (yours can too if I'm not mistaken) which is why the missiles straight up ignore him instead of just missing
Why are planes sexy?
>>584613505Normal sleep leaves her tired. Staying up all night with Rex is actually what leaves her rested the next morning.
>>584613958Well that's fucking stupid.
>>584614415Rule of cool
>>584614179>>584614345>>584614392are we uhhhhhhhh having posting errors there buddy
>>584614464Fuck, maybe lol.
>>584612959TRUST ME AND WE WILLESCAPE FROM THE CITY
Why are ships sexy?Oh. Sorry. Wrong general.
>>584614464Only one post you tagged has a (You) though so I don't know.
>>584612776Finally some human fucking made art
>>584614464Hello buddy I like planes
>>584614442It's not cool it's retarded
>>584614392>fenrir>x-49>fregataIndeed
>>584614576kino
>>584614782How many retries are you on t-boy
>>584614928I just said I beat it second try
>>584614782It's extremly coolGo play war thunder if you think it isn't the case
How long does a fucking flare last??? Holy shit the enemy flares are gone for 3 seconds but my missiles are still drunk driving
>>584612851Brother you ain't kidding. They're literally invincible. I'll admit I have no idea how I'm killing them at all in mission 28. I just stay in their ass and fire missiles at the best possible angle and hope for the best.
>he doesn't level up missile speedNGMI
They took the PSM fizzles missle lock shit from Top Gun
>>584615186>>584612851You are supposed to use guns. All the shadows get killed easily by missles even on ACE, but Toprak mimics the player, that is basically immune to missles.This said you can EASILY kil lhim with SASM
>>584615163It's an extremely cheap way of making a fight difficult.
>>584615412Use your gun, its not that hard
>>584608737How do you keep up with the Shadows in a Phantom in the later missions? That thing rolls like a turtle on its back
>>584615163War Thunder is a much better game than this arcade bullshit.
>>584615525I did and I killed themIt's still fucking stupid to watch your main weapon suddenly become entirely useless after 27 missions where it worked perfectly fineYou faggots defending this are almost as bad as the Fromsimps excusing every bit of cancer design in elden ring
To the guy from the last thread who asked if there’s a Rosa model in the game files: Yes, but my only evidence of it is this one image by a guy who couldn’t find all the proper textures so it looks like she was scribbled by a five year old
>>584615412>me when i can't use my PRESS O TO KILL EVERYTHING buttonIf you actually knew what the fuck you were doing, you could kill toprak in the moment he spawns. It's not even a difficult fightAlso PSMs work for you as well, and PSM work against shadow 22 VERY well, as well.You are just frustrated about the fact that you don't want to engage with any other mechanic that isn't pressing circle during THE bossfight they were prepping up since the very start of the game, and it actually could take skill if you want to use guns, unlike most of the gimmick bossfight, like pixy in AC0, the SOLG in AC5, or SOL in AC7 that is invincible until the game says yes
>>584615372I tried using SASM several times with the FA-36 Game. I have that fucker decked out with all the parts for maneuverability and SP missile buffs, the fuckers out turn the missile so hard that the proximity explosion doesn't go off.
>>584615568More realistic ? Probably. Better ? Lol no. I've had more fun with AC8 in 20h than War Thunder in 3k hours. Fuck these russians faggots.
>>584615525sure but rendering 90% of your game mechanics useless is still not a good boss design
>>584615845>>584615719like fucking clockwork>>584615568lmao you don't like videogames anon. If you really think that you're as retarded as the guy that says DCS is better than the arcade bullshit war thunder is
>>584615568Fuck off and go play it then you retarded faggot
I don't feel sober whe I watch plane fly by videos.
>>584609772AC8 has a Lockheed Martin License Contract bias.
>>584616017>i want to ALWAYS AND ONLY play SCISSORS against my opponents that always chooses PAPER>WDYM he switch to ROCK ONCE? It's not a good design!!!!!
I love her so much, bros.
>>584605126I slaughtered all the nuggets and they still cut straight to Kate in the water
>>584616286I'm sorry, if every other weapons other than Gun, SASM and EMLB counts as Scissors then we got another problem
There's something inherently funny about Tasha's dad.
>>584615719a boss using a maneuver (the player can do as well with the same effect) to force you to fight with more advanced strategies is cool actuallythe issue is that it's a difficulty spike and the closest things in the "use the rest of your kit and stop firing both missiles at once dumbass" categories have been easily ignored like swarm drones or ciws, if the player was taught more effectively that the win everything button was, in fact, not good at everything it would be less jarring herealso the game doesn't explain the PSM mechanics at all so too many players think he's just magically immune to missiles and not actively breaking lock, thus they don't even realize there's a thing to work aroundtl;dr failure of communication not design
>>584616489He's like a Yakuza side character that got iseakai'd
>>584615159I mean it's not that I don't believe you it's just that the game isn't very hard
Fucking skill issue
>>584616405>I'm sorry, if every SCISSORS counts as SCISSORS (and not PAPER) then we got a problemWhat the fuck anon. Did you ever play a fucking videogame in your life? Ever needed to use a WATER element against a FIRE element?THINKI feel i'm getting baited here
>>584616563Not just in character design. He is always looking like he's slightly embarrassed to be there.
>>584616689>bait or genuine retardation>call it
>>584615568This is the wrong place to spew bullshit like this.We know the what's upWar Thunder will never reach the peaks of Ace Comat. It being "muh realistik" hasn't any kind of weight
>>584616489literal mongoloid phenotype bumming around in a bowling shirt and fedora, then casually busting out some kgb connections to find deepstate intel and revealing his presumably smokin wife is the one who crippled the main bad and promptly vanishingwhat a lad
Bread??
>>584615909>>584616934>the wt heavy weights came down to shit on this retard
>>584617197We do not need a new thread.A Sotoan uses all parts of the animal.
Rex definitely gives Tasha head pats right? Her little sister energy demands it.
>>584617138Well she did get smoked like Tewy, I wonder if she also got crippled and got a abrupt end to her carrer too.
>>584617253
>>584617359Maybe she got Neucom's superplane prototype since Tewy got the proto X49
>>584617253I can't even call you a genuine goatfucker because that implies that you are actually a filthy Sotoan nomad, you LARPing elite faggot.
>Tasha has singularity DNA
>>584617801Matter of interpretation
Ace Combat 10's protagonist will be Rex and Kate's kid.
>>584617359presumably she's less fucked up than tewy, I don't see bamco having the balls to imply the lost the hu vocalist went super katawa shoujo and fucked a quadriplegic, based as it would be
Damn how old was Cooe when he got first got the hots for Tewey
>>584617801
>>584617359tasha literally said her mom was permanently grounded by that fight too
>>584617938Callsign Prince
>>584617947>katawa shoujomy sidesfellow oldfag. Pushing our thirties, aren't we
>>584618090KONO, WRITE THAT DOWN
>>584615538It's a brick but it pitches well enough to dodge. Took forever to kill 22 and friends but guns will see you through. I did my memeplane run as my first playthrough on Elite and while I struggled with dogfights in the back third of the game I was never in danger of failing any of the missions. M28 and M29 are pretty easy to S-Rank thanks to UGBs and Moon 11 flying in straight lines for MGP bursts. Up to mission 19 or 20 I was S-Ranking things with relative ease, but around 19/20 I accepted I wasn't gonna be S-Ranking the back third of the game blind on my first run. Ladon Bombers filtered me for a little bit because I was running mixed HVAA/MGP, but going all HVAA gave me enough missiles to pass that DPS check because it wasn't easy to get the nose of the Phantom pointed in the right place for long enough.
>>584617801>talk about muh ancestors and muh nomad life on nugchan >get called a larper who probably faints at the sight of sheep's bloodfilthy fucking sedentoids bismallah we will tonitrius spear your entire bloodline I bet you never even moved out of your mother's basement let alone nomadmaxxed like a real man
Is Christianity a thing in Strangereal and if so, where the fuck is the Holy Land?
>>584618425>where the fuck is the Holy Land?Belka.
>>584617950Cope knew her before the yuke-sotoan war which happened in the late 2000s, the guy was born in 1995 so he couldn't be younger than 15. Tewy was born in 88 by the way.
BREAD WHERE
>>584618425That's a complicated question."Yes" in that there is a general belief in God, Heaven, Angels, and so on. There are even churches."So was Jesus crucified? If so where?" We have no idea about things like that.It's probably not "Christianity" per se, but a similar enough religion. "StrangeChristianity".
>>584618425>Is Christianity a thing in StrangerealI think so.You can find churches on some maps (I think I remember one in one of the villages in the Waiapolo Mountains in AC7), and church bells ring during the battle for Ustio's capital in ACZ.
>>584618425fuck you summoned them
>>5846110868bitdo Ultimate 3-mode for Xbox
>>584616301This isn't Betty though
>>584618583>So was Jesus crucified? If so where?"megalith, duh
>>584616373You must make sure all 12 Gema pilots are dead before the mission end
What plane would Jesus fly?
next thread better be a sweaty kate thread or else
I'm trying to watch the max0r video on ace combat zero.No wonder people shit on ACZ larpers at large, a content creator funneled roughly 180k hyperfixated autistic teenagers into the fandom.There's netflix shows less obnoxious than this video. Are all his videos like this?
>>584618186n-nonot "pushing" 30 ;_;
>>584618825>I'm trying to watch the max0rlost me there
>>584618773F-14A
>>584618825who cares? the more attention AC gets the more sequel I can play. Him liking AC is beneficial to all of us.
>>584618186>pushing 30Bro I am nearing my 40s I'm gonna fucking kill myself like that one chick
>>584618773F8U Crusader
>>584618235I'm assuming you solely go for priority TGTs and skip anything extraneous for Gun run medal unless you're trying to multitask the S rank run in tandem (which would be torture)
>>584618773Jesus is our AWACS.>>584618825>Are all his videos like this?I only saw his Genshin vid and parts of one of his Ace Combat videos, but yeah.
we're gonna die...
PULL UP! PULL UP!
>>584618825wingman and the torres section of 7 were the only really good ones even if you're into it, zero was too unrefined and the 7 remake shows he's completely lost the sauce
>>584619205RETARDRETARD
TELL MY MOM AND DAD I-
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>>584618825Literally who
>>584618773Mobius 1 flew a Raptor
>>584618825No for real I feel like a I'm coming out of some closet realizing maybe shit's kinda fucked up cus I'm starting to see the merits of gatekeeping when I look on the acz memes on social media and how they always start there, and only later end up here, by difference of mere minutes.I even seen some of you post and encourage AI slop, some of you wanting Kate's tits to be bigger.
>>584619716I am not gonna contribute to his views
For the campaign medals that require focus on a single aircraft type, does that extend to your wingmen or just the player?
>>584621958Just (You), and squad kills count towards your total, so for M15 you can just stick your wingmen in endgame planes and let them do the work while you're pootling around in a Prowler.
