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>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.

>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>Dates
The beta ends on October 21.
Name reservations on October 27.
The journey begins on November 4.

>Previous Thread
>>>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.

>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcast
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/

>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>Dates
The beta ends on October 21.
Name reservations on October 27.
The journey begins on November 4.

>Previous Thread
>>584618545
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>>584632718
We're gonna recycle this one like good boys, right /wowfg/?
Real Previous >>584632676
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>Wands now require you to stand still for 0.5 seconds before shooting, matching early versions of World of Warcraft.
It's over, the most fun thing in the game was destroyed
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alexensual refunded the game. its over.
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>>584658614
Then you're going to stop posting about him right?
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did they buff the gnomes or am i missing something
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POCHIE
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ITS COMING HOME, ITS COMING HOME, ITS COMING
WARCRAFTS COMING HOME
15 YEARS APART
NEVER STOPPED ME DREAMING
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Gnome or human warrior?
I plan to play on a pve server but do BGs at 60
Is perception any good in beta or only good on rogue vs rogue duels?
Does escape artist reset your swing timer?
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You Vill buy the new race and you Vill be happy.
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>>584658882
the buffed gnome rogues and potentially gnome mages
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>replaces soulful weapon skill racials with retail slop 2% crit
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>shaman totems are raid wide
>shadow priest buffed and given a unique raid buff for spirit
>elemental got a new 31 talent, buffs, and lava burst even earlier
Doomjeets?! This can't be!
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>>584658882
Straight buff unless you were holding eureka charges due to kiting or being CCd
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LET BLUD COOK
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>>584632718
>>584659315
I'm glad we got rid of weapon racials, it sucks you're locked to only 1 weapon type the entire game.
However, they should've added something other than generic crit modifiers.
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>>584659334
Dwarf shaman bros.. I don't feel so good
I was really counting on WF totem to land a raid slot
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>>584659315
what is even the point of changing it to the across the board crit chance/crit damage buffs?
they could've just removed the weapon skill racials and added a unique utility racial to each race
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>>584659315
>retail racials
add it to the list
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>>584659509
I mean there's still time for them to unfuck enhancement shaman. I didn't think elemental would go first.
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>>584659489
>I'm glad we got rid of weapon racials, it sucks you're locked to only 1 weapon type the entire game.
that was true when the racials added weapon skill because it essentially made other weapons unusable without a bunch of extra hit rating
adding crit chance to a certain type of weapon doesn't necessarily mean that you're always gonna be using that type of weapon. you might get an axe on a human that's better than your sword even with the 2% extra crit
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All clothcucks are trannies to me because they all wear dresses
>ITS NOT A DRESS CHUD ITS A ROBE!!!!
whatever you say clothcuck tranny
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>>584659334
>>elemental got a new 31 talent, buffs, and lava burst even earlier
holy kino we are so back
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>>584659812
>thinking about trannies 24/7
anon, just stop watching porn
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lots of anger and damage control on wow twitter. the cracks are starting to show
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>>584659812
You're not gonna be so smug when I blast my fiery balls up your ass
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>>584659653
Quest unlocking dual wielding + lava lash at 50, trust the plan.
Adding all spells to maelstorm weapon and increasing it's damage/healing oer charges too, casting a lightning bolt once a minute and 30% haste capstone sucks dick and I'm tired of streamers claiming it's a great cd
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How much have you guys been complaining about the racial changes and the homogenization of the game even before release?
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>>584659489
Were you locked into one weapon type in vanilla with racial weapon skill? No. Go back to retail, you retard. You've never played classic
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>>584659915
>the cracks are starting to show
it's just orcoids seething really
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Trust the plan
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>>584659938
It'd be cozy if 2H was the PvP weapon and PvE was the 1H
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is this the thread????????
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Is it true gays play Druid?
I played druid when I was a little boy cuz my daddy would main druid and I liked turning into animals, but I switched classes a lot and classes I always liked most were DK and DH cuz I'm and edgelord.

Now I main warrior though and my boyfriend mains Mage, he despises playing druid he hates having extra buttons and transformations with different abilities, are we not good gays if we don't main druid? Should we class change?
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>>584660201
the gays ive played with:
>boomie
>warrior (trans)
>hunter (grindr slut)
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>>584659938
>>584659887
>>584659334
I'm waiting for the shield changes. At the moment lightning and water are completely useless outside leveling
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>>584660201
I am actually gonna answer this honestly
don't think there's any "gay" class, but there is definitely a gay race, and that is tauren, gays are attracted to that race like flies to shit, I don't mean troony faggots but the actual big men loving barafags
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>>584660201
furries play druids and furries are overwhelmingly gay, so people equate druids with being gay, but given that a sizable chunk of the playerbase are some sort of sexual deviants, I'd say that gays aren't exclusively playing druid
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>>584660419

Human men, orc men, night elf men, draenei men, worgen men, etc are all hotter than Tauren.

The horde is for straights and trains
Gauchads belong to the alliance
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>>584659938
>just retail my shit up senpai
Why are you fuckers so obsessed with dual wield bullshit, just make the spec deal good damage with a two hander
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>>584660415
>talent in elemental that makes it so that whenever you proc clearcasting you hit the target with your lightning shield
>same for enhancement but its a percent change when hitting the target with your weapon
>same with water shield
>remove the charges
There. It's fixed.
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>>584660415
Wáter procs off spell crits now, it's great for ele and alright for enh if you can afford It, I haven't checked the trees after they last patch movimg stuff around
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Just read new blue post. Guess wow forever is over.
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WoW Forever? More like WoW FagOver HAHAHAHA
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I dont know why horde is the noshoes faction when its 2 most popular factions do in fact wear shoes. By that logic the alliance should be the manlet faction because it has 2 short races
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I am convinced that everyone complaining about elemental shaman is just doing it so that their op shit doesn't get nerfed.

Lava burst crits are nearing 800 damage
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>>584660626
Oh shit you're right I missed that. You can easily grab it now. Should elemental shaman be completely fine mana wise now?
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>>584660596
Because its been the spec identity since fucking TBC, thats why
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>>584660802

Because in WoW classic there wasn't blood elves. Tauren and trolls can't wear shoes and most footwear on undead is broken to show their skeletons toes.
So it's 3 races with no shoes.
Also orc shaman starts with no shoes.

Calling a faction no shoes is also a racist dog whistle calling the Horde basically africans
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>>584660879
>>584660626
>elemental shaman is actually viable now
That's a bit insane.It'd be cozy if we got a spell power or spell crit totem but I'm okay with that being a class quest for the future that they maybe buff with talents
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>redditards think that having weekly balancing patches once the games launches is a good thing
just HOW retarded are these people
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chance they rollback the racial changes?
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>>584660885
This is classic not TBC you fucking tard
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Are undead warlocks still viable?
I really like their casting animation and aesthetics
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>>584661058
Someone said it yesterday but with every big buff/nerf, I went them to attach to the post a picture of a streamer with 0 context given, as to simply apply "this is your fault"
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>>584661130
And yet we have playable blood elves in all but name
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>>584661058

WoW players are so mentally ill they buy a game, buy it's expansions, pay monthly for the right to play otherwise their account is closed, and eagerly await the next patch to give them balance and content from games they already bought lmao.

To think when you buy other games you get the full content but here people paid for WoW Forever and won't get SD blue 30 USD elves until 2027 lmaoooo
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There's nothing to play until forever launches I just spend the whole day doom scrolling through 4chin and watching vods. This is a hell of my own making.
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>>584661060
They need to do something. These changes are more polarizing than if they had just kept them the same and they're also boring as hell.
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>>584661165
>is undead lock viable?
no, sorry
if you pick undead all your spells will deal 10% less damage and your dick will explode
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>>584661130
this is forever, and every iteration of wow informs its design. these devs didn't hatch a few weeks ago in a vacuum, they are products of their time. whether you choose to hide from the present or not has nothing to do with them.
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>>584661165
it was decent but with touch nerfed they're awful
go orc
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>>584660879
You're missing thundering strikes, 5% crit
Leave the int talent for resto or ele if you have leftovers
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OK but why no undead hunter?
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>>584661058
could you expand on whats wrong with frequent updates to file down on potential glaring imbalance?
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>>584661875
oh for some reason I thought that was melee
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why dont hd nelves look like this
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>>584661880
Too cool and that would make alliance sad. Can´t have that.
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LET AGGRETROON COOK!
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>>584662060
How the fuck didn't I think of that of course
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alex was going to save us...
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>nerf all horde racials
>buff all alliance racials

Huh i wonder what faction devs play
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>>584661165
It Will be a bit behind trolls and orcos in pve but wotf is still strong and cannibalize is godtier for leveling/grinding and even battlegrounds
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>>584662128
he can't even save himself
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>>584662002
couldn't keep the fat folds clean while living half-naked in the woods
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>people actually thought blizzard could follow a design philosophy they spent the last 15 years running away from
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>>584661446
>when you buy other games you get the full content
Oh no, anon, I'm sorry to hear you've just woken up from a 15 year coma.
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human
paladin
female
horsecock
grey hair
nose piercing
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>>584662128
he will be back next arc
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>>584662226
only one of those attributes interests me
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dude these game devs should stay away from podcasts,
-alchemy not engame profession...
-rogue king of single target...

do not make promises you can not keep retards
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>>584662226
based but good paladin sissies are perma locked
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>>584662167
I bet they are doing this to increase alliance population so they don't get a bunch of complaints at launch that people can't make horde characters and then they are going to balance them out after launch

lol we all know they just can't balance shit
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>>584662128
He will play on launch because he needs attention. Screencap this.
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Is it just me or is Vigor's 10 more energy for Rogues useless in a long fight? Or does it scale our energy regen behind the scenes?
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>>584662282
>horsecock
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>>584662167
>2 anti warlock races discouraging alliance warlocks (one of the best PvP class)
>Orcs still king for every class they can play
Why are no shoes cruing everytime someone mentions racials?
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>>584661927
this isnt a moba where you can just switch characters on a whim
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>>584662002
jesus christ what a ugly fucking art
sometimes its ok to keep picrels to yourself
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Elemental & Enhancement Shaman are now completely worthless in both pvp and pve. Enhancement is way stronger at level 30 than it will be at 60. It's actually even WORSE than vanilla, where Ele is good at pvp.
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>>584662421
humans double crit chance of orcs get cucked greenskins
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>>584662002
Nelves are barbaric not generic silk elf slop
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>le weapon racials

yeah fuck me for rolling a class that cant use the weapon
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ADD GOBLINS YOU FAT FUCK

I'M NO LONGER ASKING NICELY
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>>584662415
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>>584662128
He is literally off-topic now
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>>584662486
my man
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>>584662480
Undead Warlock has no use for the underwater breathing racial and it's still one of the most popular race/class combinations.
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Please nerf shitborne racial back to 1% haste. I want to see as few people playing this race as possible. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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>Please, I beg you to bring me to your raid
Oh, how the tables have turned, dwarves got too cocky
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>raid wide totems means we're always going to enjoy windfury totem
I'm hyped.
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>>584662562
yeah because people are really clamoring for undead because of underwater breathing

kill yourself
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>>584662208
They had to.
It was a promise.
A pillar!! A PILLLAAAAR!!!!
They gutted dungeon grinding and will soon gut open world grinding so you are a good cuck and quest like in retail and you niggersuckers are surprised??
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AGGREND CAN'T STOP SHITTING ALL OVER THE ENTIRE GAME, HE IS FILLING THE CODE WITH POO
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>actual retards making these class changes
they are getting paid for it as well, dear god i wish Asha raped half of the Blizzard dev team
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>>584662473
>Stun duration reduction
>Bloodfury
>Curse removal and spell damage reduction (5% is just a ribbon but still)
Vs
>1% crit more
>Stun removal
>Stealth detection cd (useless if the stealth class knows his shit/is patient)
I'd say orcs aren't doing that bad
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>>584662616
The point is having one wasted racial wasn't a big deal, human or orc don't even have any racials that are just for flavor.
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>undead is the worst race for pvp/pve
oh how the mighty have fallen
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Hope we get more Zul'jin stuff
would be kino if amani becomes allied race
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mmos are saved:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nzaWYLgrmo
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>>584662480
>cao cao
Holy fuck I miss prime /mbg/
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>>584662748
But they told me touch of the grave was going to be OP??
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>>584662816
It got nerfed this patch.
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>>584662725
>human or orc don't even have any racials that are just for flavor.
Orc flavor racial should be they call a peon over to harvest the nearest node. Human could be call over a peasant to look all nearby corpses automatically.
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>>584662764
You shant get kino, you can get onions'jara instead after retoilet is done turning her into an elf cock toilet.
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>>584662919
jesse what the fuck are you talking about
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>>584662856
Yes, because blizzard would rather die than let turd of the grave be good.
I warned you about blizzard and racials nigga. I told you that the game was for me, not you
t. Retailchud
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>>584662002
looks garbage
elves should be slim
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>>584662604
>Resto dual spec
>Groom guild newbies 24/7 helping them grind their preraid bis
>ERPs with GM, troons love Big dwarven cock
Eh, nothing personal rogue cucks
Have fun pickpocketing in brd on raid times
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>>584662965
Zul'jara is Zul'jin conventionally attractive daughter.
She is getting gang fucked by elven cock.
Not even joking.
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>>584662725
the point is a racial like underwater breathing is total flavor while other shit matters like old will of the forsaken

gonna hope youre just an disingenuous dumbass rather than an actual retard
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>>584663153
>Attractive
Whatever you say
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>>584662764
The Horde is comprised of losers and runts who NEED the Horde because they were getting bullied too hard. Orcs were a bunch of outcasts, Taurens were getting genocided by Centaurs lmao and Trolls are dark spear clowns, Troll empires like the Amani don't need the Horde which is why they've never joined. Now the Alliance on the other hand is comprised of the strongest clans of their respective races, King's Honour friend
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>>584663224
is this the one in that recent cutscene in midnight which everyone is laughing at?
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>Faerie Fire: Now generates threat while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form (instead of just initiating combat at 0 threat).
fucking finally. browns and pinkies should really stick t healing and waiting for an invite.
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>aggrend is shitting and pissing so much in forever that it's starting to look like retoiled
who decided this shitter should be the game's main dev?
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>>584662748
Don't care
Still rolling ud warrior for that peak decrepyt look in plate
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>>584663224
Looks like Orc x Troll fuck up spawn
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>>584663153
>google
>retail pulling from the past because they cant make new _good_ stuff
give me bwonsamdi, the rest they can keep for themselves, thanks
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>>584659509
you will put down ze wf or air totem and you will like it
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>>584662771
kino, i'd play swg again.
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>>584660201
>healing parses
this is more gay than being gay
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What we wanted
>A couple of new quests
>A couple of new dungeons and raids
>Minor tweaks to bad specs, like giving a taunt to paladins

What we got
>Full rework of every spec
>Added retail talents and spells
>Retail racials
>Transmog
>Retail hd models
>Retail spell casting animations
>Retail races
>Pay to win races
>"Realmless" killing the community even further
>Catering to gold buying streamers
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>wonder if wowf will be good
>load up a YouTube showing the new models
>”body type A body type B”
>ps no refunds
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>>584659938
>dual wielding shaman
Disgusting
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>>584663224
Conventionally attractive for troons.
A real troll she goddess would have a better face and bigger schnozz.
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>>584663391
because it is, they used orc female as the base model for forest troll females
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>>584663224
>zuljin got raped by a female orc
lucky guy...
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Not gonna play Shaman just to be told to spec resto or fuck off. Ty devs
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>>584663642
Fuckers want to insist there is no slippery slope and everyone is exaggerating. Meanwhile, the AAA gaming industiry has gotten too scared to call a woman a woman and a man a man.
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>we nerfed rank 1 frostbolt so we could put it back into the game as its own spell
bravo blizzard
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>>584663783
that's also paladins in a month
lmao
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>>584663427
Bon salami my beloved...
They should randomly change spirit healers with him so he can denigrate you for dying

>>584663616
You got the worst possible taunt for paladin because it's "le sovl" be happy and forget how shit that was in turtle and vanillaplus
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Too many are getting absolutely obsessed and bogged down in the min-max mentality already, alright?

I have a daughter, and in her teen years despite us being a working class family she got really materialistic. If we spent $1 more on her brother at Christmas then she definitely had the notion that we 'owed' her that $1 somehow, it was wild.

Now reading post about racials and class balance today, I get the same feeling of listening to crazy.

Getting hyper obsessed with equality across everything is just gonna ruin your experience, and worse yet if Blizzard feel they need to listen to that sort of talk it's going to ruin it for everyone else when they start homogenising everything. No one came to Classic for that.

Doing 1% less DPS than another race doesn't matter more than just enjoying the game, accepting that every race and class has it's strengths and weaknesses - and if it does matter to you then roll that race/class!

TL:DR; don't get obsessed with total equality, min-maxing, and perfection. You will spoil it for yourself. WoW Forever is shaping up to be a great experience. These are the good times, and for once we can be aware of them while it's happening!
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>>584659938
>>584660885
dual wielding is fucking retarded
shove it up your dickholes you fucking faggots
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>>584663783
Just dual spec
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Weapon specializations were always lame and restrictive. I’m glad they’re gone.
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>>584663897
Shut the fuck up
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>>584663840
At least resto shaman is a good healer. Holy paladin is fucked with a tree full of DPS talents
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>>584663840
Shockadin already got taken out back, so yeah LMAO
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>>584662167
maybe they play orc which is still the best race even after nerfs
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As someone who has been waiting so long for classic+ I'm honestly genuinely concerned for WOWF and its future.

The whole beta has felt more like a Season of Discovery type experiment where they are still chucking a lot of stuff at the wall to see what sticks, weeks before release. Typically in a beta you'd expect the game to be finished and the team would be at the bug fixing stage alongside minor changes.

We haven't even got to level 31+ content yet!

Then we have the conflicting statements at Blizzcon, versus what they are actually implementing.

1) The classic art style is supposed to be preserved, yet much of the new content they are adding is of retail art style, dropped into the classic art style world.

2) The social experience is one of their pillars, yet they've added mega servers and a completely bust layering system that is completely counter to this.

3) They've added a race that nobodies heard of, or asked for that looks like it's straight out of retail instead of adding classic lore friendly races.

4) Horizontal progression, as repeatedly mentioned at Blizzcon, is in fact not in the game. There is horizontal type content, but character progression is vertical as it is in all other wow versions. So how will our characters and their progress stay relevant with "forever" power creep?

5) Datamined stuff coming out is looking increasingly retail.

Honestly I really hope it's good, but I'm worried that in 6-12 months this game isn't going to look anything like classic+, but instead more like a retail mix up.
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>>584663897
"His" "daughter" is half black.
Irl brown parser in game brown parser.
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>>584664056
Shut the fuck up
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>orc still the best race in the horde
>best race for half classes overall
>meanwhile orcucks are crying on rebbit and forums threatening to refund
crazy how the epic loktar ogar savages have the most thin skinned playerbase out of everyone
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warlock lvling plan so far
>lw+skinning for 2% crit + 5% restedxp camp buffs + vendor the leather to buy wands/bags etc
>mail all cloth and greens to an alt who has enchanting for DE, store the cloth for lvling tailoring once i'm 60 on main

minimal downtime questing (send pet on next mob while i skin), just mail stuff off every time i'm in town

at lvl 60 final profs will be tailoring + something else not sure yet. i feel DME solo will be dead due to 50g hardcap arcane crystal cost (might still be worth it tho idk) so unlikely i go mining (also just am wary of any openworld gathering since so many bots + layers might be overcrowded). wary of herbing for same reason. i'd like engineering for toys and stuff but it's a money burner not money maker most of the time (although making sappers has been decent gold in the past) i don't want to go enchanting unless they add vellums, i don't wanna sit in org all day spamming trade with a auto-inv addon (cringe).
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>not a single relevant streamer plays paladin
>all 3 specs are in the shitter
should have rolled druid...
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>>584664174
>plan
Try having fun instead.
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I have no idea what they are doing with Forever anymore
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>>584662725
>5% spirit
not beating the allegations zugger
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>>584664191
Retardin (forma de twisteroo) is erm, good ackshually!!!
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>>584659163
Perception is ass. Always gas been. Anyone that tells you otherwise is a liar. Every man for himself and 2% crit are great though. Humans will parse better than gnomes. Gnomes will slightly edge out humans for pvp.
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Nothing you say can make me not hypemaxxed for Forever
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>>584664168
I haven't seen a single person complaining about orcs
it's all dwarfs and ud
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>>584664191
Quin69
McConnel
Esfand
These are your champions.
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>>584664352
Retoileting it.
I warned you it was sod- but none of you listened.
You cried, you kvetched and you, without knowing better, nursed on aggrend's moob.
Now you are sobering and realizing you sucked man tits.
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>>584664371
>Gnomes will slightly edge out humans
OHHH YEAH
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>>584660201
Im going to play druid because I want to warrior tank, but I don't want to be complete ass in wpvp. Bear main, balance druid off.
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>>584663897
>If we spent $1 more on her brother at Christmas then she definitely had the notion that we 'owed' her that $1 somehow, it was wild
Yeah man bad parenting is really "wild"
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>>584664345
ill be having fun faster than you with a plan
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>>584664482
I would have loved sod
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warlock lvling plan so far
>dot up, pet go brrr
>take my time, play when I feel like it

maximum downtime questing (send pet if I want), put stuff in the bank every time im in town

at lvl 60 I might decide if I want to build a profession or two
maybe do some raiding
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What’s going to be the lowest level dungeon for alliance, vc at 15?
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>>584664471
holy shit
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>584664352
forever is a bathtub and Aggrend is suffers from severe diarrhea, this is what is happening with forever, he is filling the tub
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What horde race/class should I make my herb and mining alts?
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>>584662167
>horde racials were extremely over tuned
>alliance racials already sucked
Really a mystery.
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>>584663616
We? Whos we? I was expecting more than minor tweaks to classes and racials. I wanted transmog. Realmless is good if they can just turn it into a lobby system instead and let you change lobbies in capital cities.
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>>584664554
We all did then Fatgrend did what he does (micro manage balance and release buggy, exploitable shit).
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>>584664471
Does McCool even play WoW anymore
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>>584663160
Orc also had other shit, it was a good race even for classes that couldn't use axes and the axe racial had more flavor than giving half the races crit
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> Wow forever is the timeline were the Jailor won

remember to say thank you to the Jailor anons, all part of his master plan.
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>>584664606
what the fuck is it with you and shit?
disgusting faggot take your shit fantasy somewhere else
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>>584664664
you're not a vanilla fan, you're not a nost vet. you're just a retoilet tourist, kys
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>>584664606
And us, like good cucky piggies, eat it up!
Pinky oinky my fellow squealers!
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>>584658914
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>>584664695
of course he does. he's as addicted this game as asmon ever was, if not more so, since he never stopped playing retail.
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>>584658914
get the fuck out pserf rodent
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>>584664471
>Clown69
kino
https://livestreamfails.com/clip/ha6jwA0RDxEm/guzu-vs-quin69-round-two-fatality
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>3% haste
>glider for AB and WSG bullshit
Or
>shadowmeld to interrupt casts and drop aggro onto dps to kill them
>1% dodge
>10% crit cooldown
>2% movespeed
Really struggling to decide on a race for druid (tank/balance) now.
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>>584664797
I havent played WoW since Wrath except for classic 2019
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>>584662002
They need to look more like this
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Gnome Bvlls.. how are we feeling?
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>no rppvp
>megaservers instead of individual servers to pick from
My two biggest issues with forever
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>>584664168
If your race can be orc it's bis for pvp and pve, simple as
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>>584662616
extremely low iq individual. brown or just the product of american education?
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>>584664732
>Ylor won
>It sucks
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>>584664561
>send pet
>dot up
>cast one wand
>pet dead
>resummon pet

they need to revert pet health badly
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>>584664910
Blusky for pve
NE for pvp
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>>584664910
Keep in mind that engineers can get the glider, which probably has a comparable but longer CD to walk on air
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>>584664174
there's no point doing this when you get a free mount at 40. You might as well skip professions all together (fastest) or just start tailoring/ench now so you benefit from crafted gear while you're leveling (slower) if you want to do professions at all.
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>orc is the best race for every class it can be
>undead still second best
Oh wow, it's literally nothing.
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>>584665140
actually sky elf is bis
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>>584663942
>just dual spec bro
The other specs are useless in both pve and pvp, dual spec into WHAT and WHY?
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The reason they make human racials OP is to keep the male human paladins happy. The most childish and low iq segment of the playerbase, including the assmontards
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>>584665140
kill yourself blizztranny faggot
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>>584665140
undead is actually useless now, trolls are 2nd best for horde
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>>584665238
poorfag general is that way
>>>/wpsg/
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>>584665339
pochie..
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>>584658614
i just watched the video. what a whiny autistic retard. i don't give a fuck about any of the things he kept sperging about.
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>>584665227
No it's because humans are the BEST race
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Is it too late to start prepping for wrath anni?
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>>584665140
> mfw everyone crying abut racial minmax shit

meanwhile im going the same thing i always have, night elf male druid.
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>>584665431
always like horleys artwork
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>>584665392
dont give a fuck about layering? dont give a fuck about a retarded dev team that changes the game completely every week? what do you give a fuck about, fag?
game doesnt feel like a beta that releases in 3 weeks, feels like an alpha 0.00001 because they have no idea what they are doing
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>>584665431
Hm, well played
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>>584665039
You're both it seems
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>>584659509
It's time to take out the blue dress from the closet
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>>584665431
how to make a druid even more gay? fel druid
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>>584665431
i played male night elf druid last time around it was hard on my dysphoria..
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They won't butcher her writing in Forever, right?
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>>584664174
>warlock
>no first aid for bandage spam after life tapping
>minimal downtime
i dont think you thought this through when you can buy cloth for vendor price by the time you hit 60
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>>584665595
that doesnt look like sylvanas
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>FOREVER IS BAD AND TURNING INTO RETOILET BECAUSE THEY'RE.... trying to balance the game and not turning it into a unbalanced slog
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>>584665708
WOYER
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why is reddit seething over the race ability changes?
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>>584665708
that's the charm of vanilla. if you want "perfectly balanced class and all playing pretty much the same, go to retoilet
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People who cry about racial balance are the same people who never go above a green parse
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I never check patch notes what am I going to do, not play MY class/race?
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>>584665595
the only way to handle her is by not giving her any attention or lines at all
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>>584665860
Human won
Dwarf won
Gnome won
Night elf won
Orc lost
Undead lost
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>>584665708
>Layering every 10 seconds
>Blatantly retail hyper HD Disney mounts and enemies
>Bring the player not the class, everything slowly becoming homogenized
>Completely made up lore
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LET AGGRENDTARD COOK!
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WE CANT LET DRUMPF WIN ALL CLASSES MUST BE THE SAME!!! IT WAS HER TURN!!
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>>584665569
thats not fel, get your eyes checked mate.

>>584665521
you were right to awaken me

>>584665478
yeh it slaps
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>>584664732
Thank you Jailor!
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>Min/maxxing racials

Soulless behavior, the absolute state of this game.
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>>584664352
At this point it looks like its gonna be a playground for retards like sodapoopin to dictate game journo level game design. They are gonna wring through the content and outrate mill for a few weeks/months then drop it. By that time most players will have been alienated again already and ultimately all the circus will have been done for a few dozens streamerfaggots and their viewers. The latter being also a minority and a few thousand people at best nobody should give a fuck about.
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>>584665140
for pvp, Troll is the better warlock and Undead is still the better mage. Hardiness is the only reason why Orc is better in most cases.
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>>584664174
My plan is simple
>ignore professions completely and lvl right to 60
>buy some gold
>buy all the mats I need off the AH because they will be super cheap with every retard leveling professions as they level their character
>level engineering and whatever secondary is determined to be meta
Anyone who does otherwise is retarded imo
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>>584664174
My warlock leveling plan
>level to 20
>don't get the perfect name for my Succ
>delete my warlock
>repeat
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>pvp servers will be a shit mess with megaservers dropping you into a nigged layer
RP won
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>>584665652
Then how did you know it was Sylvanas?
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Can’t decide between tauren or troll for a prot warrior.

The new racials seem like troll would be better for the health regen. But tauren has warstomp and i’ve never tanked before so idk which is more useful.

Aesthetically tauren looks better in plate i think. But I’m playing on an rp server and would prefer to rp as a troll.

Also i wouldn’t take herb so cultivation would be a wasted racial.

Too many variables anons, help me decide
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>>584665990
Here's a (you) hope your post gets more replies lil buddy
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>>584665595
We're playing Classic which means the faction leaders just stay in their hall and never do anything aside form quest turn ins
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>>584665813
Racials are a nonissue for pve but they play a big role for pvp
Having wotf, stoneform or fucking elune's meme is a gamechanger
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>>584666068
Your heart says Troll mon.
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Despite the recent news I still believe in the Forever Team. They've already shown that they do listen to feedback from Gamers. We need to be patient.
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>>584665785
>the charm of vanilla was that several specs are not viable
No, that was literally the worst part of vanilla.
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daily reminder that picking a race/class combo because of performance in a game where the first raids have been cleared in 45 mins in greens is extremly retarded and gay....
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alliance sissies... your women are getting orced
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>>584665975
Uhhhhhhhhhhhm, how EXACTLY do you plan on killing Tank & Spank #48 without an extra 8 DPS???
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>>584665521
>ANGRY TREE NOISES
God fucking damn I hated savage roar/fon in old hearthstone.
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>>584665595
The best thing they could do it not touch any of the faction leaders, or anyone at all really. The focus is on the world and the players or else you get the garbage that is retail.
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>>584665971
lmao, im stealing this one anon.
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>>584666147
Cringe hopecuck
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>>584666153
It is, but unfortunately the mentality has affected the populace and they will enforce metas even in casual content.
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Are we still playing this on launch or did the doomlords win?
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>>584665990
>>buy some gold
kek, bur even
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just missing gay centaurs and we're full retail
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>>584666007
succubus name tier list pls?
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>>584665520
i dont give a fuck about le epic open world pvp in wow, no. therefore i dont give a fuck about layering. i also dont give a fuck which fat, smelly retard is developing the game. it's a braindead game about killing boars you fucking losers gatekeep like anything you say matters at all. lol. lmao even.
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>>584666068
There are plenty of Tauren warriors running around, Troll Warrior would be cooler. A bit more unique.

I hope we get forest trolls playable in Forever though because a shredded forest troll warrior would be sick

>>584666197
This. I like the leaders better as, yknow, leaders. Kings and queens sitting in a throne room that only appear for quest turn ins or certain events or something. Retail constantly changing leaders every couple years as they all ran around taking part in the story was kinda shit.
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>>584665990
Unless you are streamer with more than 1000 viewers gold buying is a perma ban
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>they tried to fix elemental shaman
>still looks like shit
yep, they have absolutely no idea what they are doing, aggrentard is going to sink this ship in less than 1 month
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>>584666241
hopemaxxing is chad coded
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>wowhead actually defending an infinite money glitch
How fucking retarded are these people?
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>>584666068
Troll for leveling, speed up dungeons and tryharding raids
Tauren for pvp, comfy raiding/dungeons
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Any video footage of the new mage spells yet?
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>literal decades of private servers experimenting with all forms of vanilla wow
>tons of solid examples of what works and what doesn't
>blizzard still making even worse decisions than unpaid 3rd worlders
make it make sense
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>>584666161
always have been
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>>584666460
I don't like that they changed them all to 1c but nothing else works the same way
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>>584665595
>YOU ARE ALL, NOTHING!
We've learned to expect less of blizz writers
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>whenever everyone minmaxes the game is easy
>And that's why you should carry me!
>*Keyboard turns*
Mhmmmm... No~
Back to <Wife's Aggro> and <Bibisi Slaves> with you, offmetard.
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>>584666460
The AI is mixing up vendor shuffle with enchanting shuffling, go easy on them.
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hmmm white man aesthetics and beauty
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>>584666321
>body type B
You already know they are there, sis
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>>584666637
what's the difference
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>>584666361
I'm just going to create a second account, buy gold on that and see if it gets caught. If it's clear then I buy the mats and mail them to my main account to avoid sending gold directly to it.
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>>584666565
That was wands and they already raised the sell price on those. This is from their latest post about every crafted item dropping in vendoring price
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Daily affirmations
You are a god gamer
You are beautiful
You are enought
Dont let anyone tell you that you arent because they would be lying
You are a god gamer
You are beautiful
You are enought
Dont let anyone tell you that you arent because they would be lying
You are a god gamer
You are beautiful
You are enought
Dont let anyone tell you that you arent because they would be lying
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>>584666563
i just started that mission last night
>>
Friendly reminder that I WILL be having fun and i WILL surround myself with fun havers and we WILL all have fun together
The f in wowf stands for fun!!!!!!!!!!
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What did they mean by making the final assassination talent another buff to juggle along with Slice and Dice + Expose Armor? Was copy and pasting Envenom too easy?
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>>584666765
thx
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>They killed Turtie for this slop
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ok I think I figured it out:
either i go warlock with skinning an herbalism save up all my herbs for alch but still have tent for xp boost

or i just go mage with aoe farm and the classic tailor skinning for tent and leveling gear and later swap skinning for enchanting
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Octo is so irrelevant they dont even bother going after it
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>>584666856
they have said they dont want to do the expected thing
they want to surprise us
which they do successfully
ofc its not usually in a positive sense
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>>584666327
>Slutroc
>Whorteh
>Boubah
>Rearah
>Staeponme
>Strappoene
>Baeldaestroyah
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>>584666898
>he wasted his time on a shenna and crogge server
kekaroooo
>>
So what's our official consensus on the people who have this glowing outline on their characters enabled?
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>They killed TurtleWoW and Ascension for... this
:/
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>>584667042
Retards. They almost certainly cannot envision the apple in their mind's eye.
>>
>>584667054
Would be funny if they blow up OctoWoW and that nu-Epoch on the same day
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>>584667020
never getting that model
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>>584666991
>surprise, I made you a bowl of shit for breakfast!
>>
I'm going to be a dad in April. I work a full time job (182k salary). What race / class combo is best for me to be competitive and get a raid spot? No healers.
>>
Where is that shitskin who was constantly seething about Paladins and how they were Aggrend's pet class?
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>>584667054
Good, fuck Shenna and fuck Crogge absolute blight on the pserver scene.
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>>584666068
do troll still look fucked up with helmets?
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Racials are supposed to be minor bonuses that make each race feel unique. It's just cool to be undead and breathe underwater longer, or play a tauren and gather herbs more easily.
That's about the level racials should be at. Fun little gimmicks that add flavor, and are too insignificant for poopsockers to care about.
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>>584667054
Can't wait for dutches rico trial to start, and shenna to die from a Ukrainian drone
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>>584666007
based
seeing what lock pet names they get is part of the charm
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>>584667054
>>584666898
EEEEYUP! Get fuuuuuuuuuucked turd world IP thieves. Thanks for the head start. You're lucky MicrosoftGODS didn't rape your bank accounts and ban you from traveling to the civilized world. Good luck with Moonwhisper Games! Ha!
>>
>realm: EU
>type: PVP
>faction: alliance
>race: human
>skin tone: white
>class: warrior
>specialization: fury
>professions: mining, blacksmithing

why does this make so many people seethe with rage?
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>>584667054
Those allowed Nazi weak auras aka playing in a blizzard UN APPROVED way, they had to go.
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>>584667154
>Having a kid
Your life is over at that point, give up everything and enjoy misery for +21 years
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>7 pages of mage buffs when they're already 3 shotting people with ice lance
??????????????????? Is it just Xaryu crying about it all day or what the fuck is this shit?
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>>584667054
>Ascension
worst fucking shit server out there
actual clown server
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>>584667287
because you are only giving me 1 honor point
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>>584667054
lmao
tranny down
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>>584667320
>Caring about balance in the 30s bracket
Lol
>>
>1fp
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for me, its the cowussy
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>>584666327
One of the best ones you can get is Anna. In the beta I've noticed Anora because of the movie. Other notable ones that are apparently possible are Galaxia and Burserk.
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>>584666724
Typically vendor shuffling is buying X, Y, Z, using it to craft A and selling it to a vendor because they buy it for more than the mats cost. I think in forever the mats were so plentiful you would never not make a profit.

Enchanting shuffling is identifying underpriced items (tailoring leveling shit for example), buying them and flipping the mats at a profit on the AH. It's not always profitable depending on supply.
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>>584667434
I know that feel bro
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>>584667318
my kid will be a chad, it's all good.
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>>584667320
Personally I don't understand why mages need procs on rank 1 frostbolt. Why wasn't using it for a slow good enough?
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>>584667287
Goyim unironically experience white guilt
>>
Did I miss something why are people dooming Forever even more now
>>
>>584667320
You see mages actually need that perma slow so arms warrior literally can not ever beat a mage in duel

Not that arms warrior could do that before, only need to autoattack for 10s to get one MS off
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>Want to play 2h wielding melee
>Paladin nerfed to oblivion
>Shaman bad as always
>Warrior (never want to experience wpvp on it ever again)
Is my only option to go melee hunter?
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>>584667320
>he thinks frost got buffed
learn to read
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>>584667563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnhJe-oeQc
The CEO of Classic WoW has quit Forever.
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>>584667587
Your only option is to go warrior and group with a decent healer
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>>584667587
Paladin is a designated "dev pet" class and will always get attention
Shaman Enh is probably next on the list to get a brush up now that Ele got some love
I have heard Survival Huntard is quite strong

You have pretty decent choices imo
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>>584667471
I hate that they can start with "bro". That's gonna make me want to reroll
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>Mages get raped with nerfs for 3 weeks straight
>Blizzard throws them a bone and gives them a replacement for losing r1 frostbolt
>Immediate kvetching
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>>584667587
just play warrior like a man
>>
seems like rogue is the safe bet considering they havent touched the class in weeks
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>>584667287
>I'M WHITE I'M WHITE I'M WHITE I'M WHITE I'M WHITE
yawn
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>>584667434
need it
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Though its definitely worse for warriors, rogues, and enh shaman the orc nerfs seem not bad at all for warlocks? Overall the damage nerf seems negligible since axe specialization did nothing for us anyway? Also if a boss is 3 minutes and 10~ seconds or longer the Blood Fury nerfs don't even matter? Am I coping?
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>Game is bad because random shitskin on twitch talks with devs
You goyim really think this?
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>>584667715
actually blizzard did that for the streamers they dont care about you tranny peasant mages
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>>584667587
Reminder that during OG vanilla there was not a single viable 2h wielding raid spec and now there are 4. And yet you still manage to complain
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>>584667860
>talk
just like your mom talked to my dick last night lmao get rekt
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>>584666410
hopemaxxing for a fucking corporation is nothing but cuck coded, retard
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>>584667287
global south horde players
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warlock or priest pls decide for me ? i want to dps pvp and whatever in pve
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>>584667986
fucking bodied that freak
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>>584667563
Alex quitted Forever.
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>>584667993
tldr: wow cant be enjoyed now that browns have internet
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>>584668030
warlock
priests run out of mana in pvp
and if you heal in raids you are getting healing gear which wont help you in pvp dps
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>>584667993
Real Horde player are still Tribal Chuds. Rape, kill, pillage, enslave and all that good shit
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>>584666161
That's fine. I want to HUMAN an orc bitch.
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>>584667842
it doesn't matter, you can already remove magic so being able to remove curses/banes is super OP. having a dps cd and stun reduction is still the best race.
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>>584667987
Why do you act like you're smarter than everyone when you're sitting in the same boat thoughevermaybeit?
>>
Priest bros, how are we feeling after the changes? Is it no longer over, is Shadow saved?

And I'm curious on peoples thoughts on Gnome vs Human. They were insanely close before the racial changes, but now I'm not so sure. Universal 2% crit on Humans is huge, and while Eureka got buffed (mostly) I can't imagine that compares.
Is it really just Human domination for every class now? Kind of boring, but I like fem human priests so that's okay for me I guess
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>>584668030
If you want to dps, go with the dps class rather than the dps spec.
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>>584667617
Looking forward to his launch streams!
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>>584667617
I havent actually watched footage of Forever until just now. This is what it looks like??? The animations literally look like retail-
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>>584667993
american take
im a germanic orc beating down roman humans
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>>584667993
what kind of mental illness is that?
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>>584668206
humans are kings now
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If WoW Forever released as an unknown game without 3 decades worth of fans behind it in 2026 like this, the game and company would fold in a month.
This is so insanely unacceptable lol.
Why do we even pretend that this wouldn't be anything other than a 45% review obliterated game on steam if this released in 2026 as a new IP.
Blizzard gets away with so much actual garbage its insane.
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“goyim” is joining “cuck, seethe, cope” as extremely brown flag words
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>>584668206
Priests have won bigly. Discipline is in a great spot and shadow is now a very attractive raid/party invite as a battery.
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>>584668307
nobody cares retard
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>>584668307
indians on x have been saying goyim for years now
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>>584668206
Priests are always popular for healing and almost every issue with shadow was fixed. I dont see any reason why you wouldnt wanna play one.
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>>584668307
cope and seethe, goyim cuck
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>>584668468
>nobody cares, sir
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>>584668307
>>584668471
>t. brown seething cuck goy
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Blizzard genuinely hate Shamans and only tolerate resto because of windfury totem. Forever paying for the Bus Shock incident.
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>>584668356
Nice, the Priest plan is already paying off

>>584668276
Figured, I saw some nerd compare all the races and their race specific priest abilities, and it was actually very close between Gnome and Human's.
I never saw a human buff coming, what in the world. Gnome's AoE confuse looks fun but I guess Human's double PW:Shield ability is neat too.
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>managed to get Fabled Azta’rec despite playing on a shitty old laptop without an external keyboard or mouse
>Kindo’jan releases during the one week of the year when we’re visiting my mother-in-law with her absolute dogshit internet connection
>straight-up DC during a couple of attempts
It’s really looking like my only shot at this is going to be to wait until we’re home Sunday night and hope that I can power through enough attempts in one night to learn and clear the fight.
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>>584668307
This is a WoW thread, not /pol/.
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>>584668307
t. brown tranny
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>>584668198
>Why do you act like you're smarter than everyone
Because you're making it clear you're dumber than everyone.
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kek I did the $80 bundle because i wanted to try out beta and play WC3 but the beta blows and WC3 is unironically super fucking boring.

Just got a full refund, i'm actually very surprised they let me after playing both for probably 20+ hours.

I'll probably still play forever but for sure not the elf race.
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My favorite thing to do as warlock in pvp was to cast curse of tongues on healers and watch them panic, paladins instantly wasting their bubbles n shit. And if ever a mage actually removed one of their curses I immediately put it back on. Didn't even matter if we won the bg or not it was just perfect demoralization
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WTF? This is a ridiculously OP racial. Take this shit down asap Blizzard. No one wants to play trannyelfs.
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>Blizzard keeps nerfing everything even remotely good like quest reward gear because it's muh too op
>Still have dozens of gear with worthless stats like agility/strength on cloth

These fuckers have no idea what they're even doing anymore
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>dwarf racials buffed

WASH YER BACK
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>>584668307
and it's joining "jeet" and "brown" as well
>nyo but i can have my retarded kneejerk buzzwords that i use to shut down the argument because i say so
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>>584668271
that's baal
for the uninitiated, he has the ear of retail WoW writers and had several things changed / renamed in the post-Shadowlands version of WoW because it was "racist" against horde races
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>>584668837
stfu retard
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Why they go up and buff human racials EVEN MORE

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>584668812
>Trolls get 10% for 10 seconds every 3 minutes
>Sky Elves get 3% all the time.
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>>584666272
I am. This will be my triumphant return to Azeroth after 15 years away. Hopefully blizzard doesn't ruin it like they did after wrath.
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>>584668807
Nice to see someone who actually knows to not only go for the healers but to actually disable their healing.
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>>584667239
They wanted racials to substantively matter in combat but like every other design decision they flip-flopped on it after less than a month of beta (read: streamer) feedback.
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lol
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bro... wtf
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>>584668982
rofl
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>>584669061
call shen- I mean torta, NOW
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>>584659938
>Quest unlocking dual wielding + lava lash at 50, trust the plan.
*pukes*
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>Was planning on rolling UD paladin
>Going to roll human paladin instead now
>tfw I couldn't resist the boring in me
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>>584668919
>waddles up and charges you from behind

SEE YA SOON
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>>584668682
what the fuck are you talking about
are you in the wrong thread?
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>>584669061
the raped
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>>584669061
Make it less HD and ill allow this slander
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>>584669061
Tranny shit
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>>584669061
going to fucking suck when the cozy capital cities get infested with tons of ugly huge mounts stomping around
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does hunter still have a minimum range in forever or was that part of the QoL
that shit was gay
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me when they add $60 Draenei
https://litter.catbox.moe/mwyifw.mp4
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>>584669061
they have a perfectly usable turtle from tbc so why use this retail ass looking shit
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>>584668812
They want to force people to play that race
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I hate when this happens.
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>>584669061
Forever just keeps on getting worse
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>>584667617
Retards seriously believe the developers that work on layering and sharding are the same ones working on quests, new races, and community events lol
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>>584669061
why didn't they just use the tbc version they already had anyway?
really feels like they're trying to say that the default nature of forever is the hdslop and anyone who prefers the actual classic look is at best a tolerated tourist
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What do I do for 19 days?
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>>584669181
obsessed
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>>584669061
why are they unable to update any model without it turning to shit?
seriously fire all blizzard """artists""" and replace them with ai
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>>584669269
Imagine being her
Jesus Christ
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>>584669294
LOL
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>>584668682
Everybody point and laugh
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humans now get
>2% baseline crit damage
>antistun ability
>antistealth ability


humans are OP
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>>584669304
that's irrelevant, they're all pulling from the same pool of resources
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>>584669270
the artists think their "style" is better then classic's style. they seethe at anyone saying classic is better. they didnt even want to add SD models at first and got so mad when people wanted them that they sabotaged them with weird rigging issues to try to push people towards HD
they will continue trying to push their "superior" style on us because they cannot stomach the thought that they'd lose to boomer scribbles
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>>584669270
>>584669307
meh... same reason they made a new rooster instead of just taking the tbc or wotlk tcg one
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>>584669054
imp is awful and has been awful throughout entire beta
1-9 warlock is one of the worst experiences in the game
you gotta rush wand as warlock
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>>584669451
always have been
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>>584669294
in reality there would be circle around the spawn of the mob and as soon as he spawns he would get a bukake shower of moonfires
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>>584669061
Blizzard is really going to have to be dragged through the mud a 3rd time before they finally get that no one wants retail graphics and I imagine they're going to push back hard on this.
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AGGRENTARD!!!!!!
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what. the. fuck.
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>>584669453
Probably not. The ones who work with network code probably dont know much about game balance and vice versa.
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>>584669546
>>584669489
>>584669061
YALL DIDNT LISTEN
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>>584669546
you will love the gay disney shit and be happy
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>>584669451

It's pretty clear at this point that Blizz or at least Faggrend favors Alliance and hates Horde.
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>>584669061
>>584669489
>>584669546
These are for retail.
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>>584663616
>What we wanted
What you wanted*
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idc about any of this I just want to ride a raptor as ally
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>>584669624
I meant resource from a $ perspective not a labor/talent perspective. But you could argue that they wouldn't reallocate those costs towards game dev or network issues.
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>>584669061
>>584669489
I really don't see the issue. It looks pretty obvious that they want to add these to retail as well, so this is just killing two birds with one stone for them. Easy, and they maximize asset use with a little bit of downscaling so that they can spend more of that time on other more important things.
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>>584669754
morph your horse into a raptor
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>>584669496
1-9 warlock is easy shit, way better than a mage. You can juggle aggro with your imp and corruption+immolate will mostly kill anything while you kite or just face tank.
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its still time to refund
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>>584669546
Guys please. Think of the female gamers.
If we want to increase their player numbers from single digit percentages we have to tolerate the disney shit.
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>>584669737
they have the shitty, half-assed "SD texture" effect applied. those are for Forever
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>>584669831
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Where is the apology form? He was right, again.
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>>584669896
AWR, baby
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>>584669896
is this jacksepticeye? he plays forever?
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>>584669896
AWR back to era
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>>584669764
But you have a certain number of network guys on payroll and if you wanted to onboard new ones it would take a long time to go through hiring process and get them familiar with the code base. So you cant just pull more of them out of a hat because you have a pool of money.
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>>584669831
lots of people refunded yesterday, you probably can still refund today but they will lose the window some time
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>>584667715
>nerf down ranking to stop played from exploiting short cast times to proc high level spells
>tell everyone you're balancing around raid meta and not pvp
>give mages a work around exclusively for them in pvp
What the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>584669827
you can't jungle aggro with imp the fuck are you on about
the moment your immolate hits you got aggro entire efight
also warlock pets got hit with -66& health nerf so imp now has 40-50 health at low level
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can someone explain to a newfag who is this alex person
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>>584669853
They're not. They put similar retail assets in the files for SoD, like Broxigar's axe. It's a tindalos trap.
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>>584668290
if it was an unknown game you'd have people screaming about the blatant gorilla marketing and paid promotion.

Streamers are now admitting they got paid to pay the beta (i don't mean wow streamers i mean all the random "new" players that are posting basedface thumbnails about having "never played before"
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>>584669061
>>584669489
>>584669546
My day is ruined. Fuck y'all.
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>>584669061
>>584669489
>>584669546
Forever has fallen. Millions must unsubscribe.
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forever stinks like dogshit
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>>584670123
Alexensual is a schizo who is salty that he didn’t make it as a Classic WoW streamer like Esfand, Staysafe and others from the P-server era. It’s almost like people just forget how much of a spiteful, hateful and bigoted piece of shit Alex is because he nukes his channel every few months.
Remember he got himself banned from twitch for years for sending rape/death threats to a female streamer because she dared to have the opinion of not liking Classic.
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>>584669451
>antistealth ability
Perception is the worst racial in the game.
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>>584670123
25 druid vs 17 hunter
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im playing alliance because all horde villages still look like somalia. hmm, maybe a pink haired female gnome rogue
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>>584670230
Now I understand why he's so popular here
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>>584670086
why is he trying to rape the cat
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>>584667617
Man those comments are asshurt.
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>>584670021
that's where the decision to commit additional resources comes into play, you pull them off other projects/work. Or they could plan for the additional labor when they say "hey, maybe sharding is a terrible idea, lets figure something else out." it's not like this is a surprise or something new to the development team.
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funny because alex is more relevant that the 2 randoms you mentioned kek
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>>584670321
tworetardsfighting.mp4
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>>584670356
you mean eat
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Why is pvp not a minigame inside of wow

Everyone gets the same stats the same set of skills and gear
Then and only then its an actual test of skill rather than streamers getting fed by viewers
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>>584670321
Neither of those guys can fight
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>>584667860
Well we now have two confirmed changes that only happened because of streamers.
>Ret gets a seal twist talent because of Esfand
>Mage gets Frost blast because of Xaryu
They clear have a little too much power with Blizzard. Streamers are deciding what playstyle everyone has to play.
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>>584670464
because wow pvp is boring and it's only fun if you have an unfair advantage with gear
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>hoard greens
>disenchant them all
>go to item recovery
>recover all that gave you dust instead of essences
>AH the recovered greens
>some retard's gonna buy them and try to disenchant them for profit
>it's all dust
you didn't hear this from me
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>>584669839
> If we want to increase their player numbers from single digit percentages we have to tolerate the disney shit.

Xiv doesn’t.
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>>584668864
Anyone who types nyo is a troon, troon. You like using thought-terminating insults and phrases you just don’t use them on 4chan because your examples don’t work here
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>>584670464
I'd rather have a mix mash of people at various gear and skill levels working together to achieve an objective. Fuck off with this "everyone has to be equal so it's a test of le skill! Just please ignore that classes have never once been balanced so this idea that if you normalize gear then only the best will rise is nonsense". attitude
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the devs killed forever with just 3 patches in 3 different thursdays, imagine what they are going to shit out when they close down the beta and spend 3 weeks brainshitting the forever 1.00 patch for 4th november, jesus christ, it will be a shit show
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>>584670593
you sly dog
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do i need to pve to get pvp gear here or ?
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>>584670568
???
>>584670689
What objective? Pvp is everyone for themselves there's no group play, everyone just wants to be the best
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>>584669270
>from tbc
Guess again faggit, niller was disneyslop.
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>>584670464
>same set of gear and skills
WoW is a progression based game where the people who have the most free time and play the most get distinct advantages because they can progress the most. This applies to pvp too. If you're not playing 24/7 and buying gold then you'll never be competitive in pvp. This is why pvp should have no rewards of any kind associated with it.
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Am I high IQ, or are you all just retarded?
I predicted Forever would fail from the start, and all I did was look at Blizzard's history and their long list of broken promises.
I'm basically a prophet compared to you guys, and of course none of you listened.
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>>584669754
>love raptors
>Hate playing trolls because they're lanklets with the camera too high up
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Hunters need to be able to use maces...Its not fair I cant take all the weapons.
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Good thing I didn't fall for this shit. Good thing I didn't cope my brains out trying to convince myself that retoilet devs could make something good.
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>>584670742
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>584670652
Because XIV is already disneyslop and always was and always will be.
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they should have never granted the pvp tournament

it all fell down after that
the game does not need nerf buffing around pvp
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Do blizzard game generals have the highest % of people who hate the company and their games but still post daily in them?
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We need WoD and Legion Classic
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>>584670814
Hunters should be limited to 2h axes, 2h swords, and polearms only.
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What faction will you create on the PvP realm?
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>>584670916
Yes
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This shit was dead from the start with the megaservers.
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>>584670996
not gonna play this shitty ass game after last patch, bro
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Death Knight fvarking when?
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>>584670916
that would be League
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>>584670876
> disneyslop

It’s weebslop but not at all disneyslop
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>>584670996
>What faction will you create on the PvP realm?
sir?
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>>584670809
this
I really like the raptor mounts but I always disliked playing troll
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>>584670741
The objective being capturing the flag in WSG, capping a base in AB, or killing the enemy general in AV.
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>>584671093
bimbo faction
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>>584670684
>troon
also one of those words
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>Rogues
THE dual wielding class
>Warriors
only viable dps spec is dual wielding
>Survival hunter
More geared towards dual wielding right now
>Ret Paladin
Dress wearing faggot healer class
>Enhancement shaman
>

All I want to do is swing a fat two hander and do big damage. wtf
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>>584667920
>>584671236
Retail of toilet is thataway, my cucky
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>>584671085
FLYING CAPYBARA!
COCONUT DOGGIE!
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>>584670973
>sword
it should be limited to axes and polearms. nobody goes hunting and brings a sword
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>>584671134
peope dont care about bgs anon all they care about is 1v1 pvp
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Can we bring back /wowcg/ now?
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>>584670916
No.
Because the people bitching about the company and games still buy the products, so they're still Blizzdrones.
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>>584671310
>realistic animal
>didknee
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>>584671343
Yeah, Zul'aman is coming out, you don't want to miss it, it's heccin epic, you can get a wholesome chungus new bear mount and everything.
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>>584670996
The Good Boy faction. A band of heroes that comes in to save your day IF you are a female character and with the expectation that you praise us after the act.
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>>584671320
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>>584671342
I care about bg's.
1v1 & arenas can go fuck themselves.
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>>584671310
Soon
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Doomers are winning bigly. Everywhere you go, reddit, the forums, twitter and 4ch, everyone is seething and saying how the game turned to shit.
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AGGREND, JUST FUCKING DELETE SHAMAN, STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH
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>>584671342
Then you're the exact reason why I lose so many BGs, and get shittier honor/hour. I hated when people like you were absolutely my games. You can have satisfying pvp engagements but if there's no purpose for the fighting then what are you even doing
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>>584671310
Looks like a fairly realistic looking capybara to me.
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what snacks are everyone prepping for the tournament?
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>>584671236
Rogues
>daggers
>1h swords
>1h maces
Warriors
>every weapon
Hunter
>2h sword
>2h axe
>polearms
Shaman
>2h axe
>2h mace
>staves
Paladin
>2h mace
>2h sword
>Polearms
There I fixed it. Only warrior and rogue should dual wield.
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>>584671439
>>584671547
>cyoot, wholesome, adowaable widdle chungus
>not disney
Anything to defend the disneyslop.
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>>584671627
Again, looks like a fairly realistic (if oversized) cat.
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>>584661060
100% they are going to change numbers again since hordesissies complain the loudest.
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>>584671627
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>>584671526
>Classic with changes
>The changes suck because blizzard is incompetent and only alive because they own the ip
who could have seen this coming
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>>584671526
Well done Shenna, we're still not gonna fund your scam mmo project thoughever
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>>584671526
I don’t know how anyone is surprised. Blizzard hasn’t made a good WoW expansion in over 15 years and their attempt at Classic 2019 was terrible. With the layering and megaservers Forever is shaping up to be a catastrophe. But again, it being a shitheap should be the default assumption based on Blizzard’s track record
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>>584671543
lol i dont engage in pvp at all
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>>584671597
So paladin can't use 1 handers??
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>>584671695
And disney aren't making live action remakes of their stupid faggot cartoons for faggots?
>>584671707
It's sad isn't it? The two largest MMOs are both disneyslop for wokies.
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why don't they give hunters pets at level 1, this is shit
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>>584671818
Then fuck off and don't talk about things you have no stake in.
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>>584671821
Make them a 2H tank like DKs. Uther never used no pansy ass 1h + shield
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>>584671526
It feels like every week we're just waiting for another patch that shits up the game just a little more.
It always fucking happens with Blizzard. They announce something and it looks amazing. Like the best thing they ever made. Then the alpha/beta/whatever goes up and the reality looks a little worse at first glance than the announcement, but it's not all bad. And then we learn more, and more development builds come out, and more public statements about the developers' attention, and gradually that positive outlook sours. And by release, or shortly after release, it's basically nothing like what you expected and just joins the existing lineup of ruined releases you don't even wanna play, and you just wait for next "hype" announcement to repeat the cycle.
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>>584671821
They can use 1h mace and 1h sword for tanking and healing with a shield. Just like shaman can use 1h axes and 1h maces. That clearly was meant to be for their dps specs.
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>>584671526
Hope sissies: 2'' atrophied from blizzard castration (mandatory for shills)
DooMANDIGODS: 14'' soft, hyper virile, gold parser irl
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>>584671936
mentally challenged or something?
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The warlock pet nerf is actually a bug.. r-right?
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>>584671627
>realistic animal
>>584671707
big eyed glowing didney slop
>>584671836
weird ass thing only japs make
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I told you the devs had no clear vision for the game and making these huge swing changes 3 weeks before launch proves me right.
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>>584665140
Tauren is still BiS for shamans.
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>>584671526
I've been dooming since they banned GDKP, the only good way to play WoW.
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>still mindbroken by xiv 5 years after the shadowlands debacle
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>>584672004
Nope
They sealth nerfd all hunter pets too
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>>584671836
The first Disneyesque thing you posted.
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>>584671526
the only people who are happy with what they see are the players being pulled from retail desu
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Looking forward to having a blast in WoW Forever.
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>cant have short skirts or actual looking loincloths
lame
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>>584671730
this guy is fun, he's like a real life gnoblin himself
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>>584671836
XIV is not disneyslop. Asian mmos have a very distinct overdesigned and faux-edgy style that sucks but it isn’t disney. People call blizzard games disney because their 2014 model revamp made the characters look like pixar characters but that’s not the xiv style
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>>584671491
which world of wow char is this
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>>584664732
Im not well versed in the post-bfa retoilet lore, care to explain the Jailor and his plan?
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>>584672070
tbf I really liked that Shadowbringers expansion
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>>584672157
my male nelf hunter in forever
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>>584672157
illidan stormrage
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>>584672105
They're all disneyslop you fucking mutt. If your mount isn't a chariot driven by tortured, dying naked women, it's disneyslop.
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forever is not classic!
it's classic +!
it's classic + a massive amount of feces falling off aggrend's obese and disgusting diabetic butthole , that's wow forever
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>>584672157
me
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i wonder if things would have been different if the scamming shitskin and his tournament werent allowed
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>>584672157
grom hellscream
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>>584671597
Is it possible to forgo my pet and just run a polearm survival hunter without being worse than an ele shaman?
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>>584672113
>retoilets ruin another version of WoW in their demand to have everything cater to them when they already literally have their own game which is on life support exactly because of them
Say it ain't so.
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>>584671836
For me wow artstyle has always looked more disney. Goofy and cartoony.
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>>584670464
Thats kind of what happens in tbc onwards. You pvp and get pvp gear and the pve and pvp gear sets are mostly distinct because you can't pvp without resilience. Most people agree this was a bad direction for the game
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>>584668512
What was the issue with shadow? Mana? I never played shadow.
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>>584672272
Natsoc truth nuke
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>>584671887
You'll be level 10 after like 3 hours and never have another problem in the game again
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>>584672441
It looked videogamey, not disneyesque.
Heroes of the Storm got it right
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>>584672272
>If your mount isn't a chariot driven by tortured, dying naked women
for me it's driven by tortured, dying naked white women
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>>584672441
nooo you can't bring up the silly dances, vanilla was grimdark and edgy
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>>584672129
I love tauren woman so much it's unreal
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>>584672441
Not this one. But definitely the post-WoD one.
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Hold the fucking line hopebros. We can't let the doomers take another Game from us.
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>>584672441
more like n64/ early 3d artstyle than anything
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humans are the go to race for pvp and pve know

fuck that
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>>584672614
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>>584672692
doomers aren't taking anything from you, anon
blizzard and retailfags are
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/psa-you-can-get-a-refund-here%E2%80%99s-how-takes-5-minutes/2362459
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/psa-you-can-get-a-refund-here%E2%80%99s-how-takes-5-minutes/2362459
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/psa-you-can-get-a-refund-here%E2%80%99s-how-takes-5-minutes/2362459
get your $60 back while you still can
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>>584672441
>>584672689
WoD really made character models too disney like
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>>584672689
Looks fine to me

Everyone was hyped for the model updates back in wod btw
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>>584672876
and lose access to my skelves? i think not dude
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>>584672876
I just did this and refunded the $80 pack after playing beta 1-20 and WC3 reforged about half way through the orc campaign.
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>>584672716
>he doesn't know what n64 looks like
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>>584672795
identical to retail
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>>584672926
>Looks fine to me
Then we know exactly who and what you are.
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Maybe if they put le mommy xalatath and jimothy into forever it won't flop! Hold the line!
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>>584672958
you can buy them later for cheaper, they'll maybe even have a discount for black friday (forever will be completely dead by then anyway)
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Really wish the Horde had another race that could play priests that wasnt undead or troll. Orc Priest would be cool
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>>584672987
I think he meant PS2
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>>584672987
sorry what?
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>>584672876
I just did this and 5 minutes later it says my account is closed????
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>>584672987
Absolute disneyslop, Mario the faggot plumber even takes design inspiration from Mickey the faggot Mouse.
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>>584673138
yjk at some point it'll turn out this is some alt timeline that xal'atath dips into
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>>584673049
Yeah I'm the guy who have played war 3 and wow for years, unlike the people in this thread who just parrot each other and streamers or worse classic reddit
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>the human stun trinket shares a cd with the pvp trinket
Imagine
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>>584673138
Jimothy belongs to XIVchads, disneytroon!
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>erm ackchually wow has ALWAYS been disney chuddy if you don't like retail style you are anti-intellectual and a heckin hypocrite!
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>>584673484
I never understood the black guy meme
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>>584672926
>Everyone was hyped for the model updates back in wod btw
until they saw them
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got a ring in 'ere last night
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>>584673484
WoW is super serious, hardcore, grimdark, edgy and players literally rape each other in fully animated in-game sequences called "machinima".
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>>584673647
tauren and dwarf were revealed together with the announcement back at blizzcon 2013
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So what do the americans who think alliance are white people have to say about the alliance races all being literal niggers in WoWF?
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I told you retards that your precious nostalgia boomer slop will just be retail with the skin of classic.
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It's over.
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The shills are really working overtime trying to convince people they don't actually dislike the modern WoW aesthetic and it's all just something they told themselves to dislike, or someone else told them to dislike.
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>>584663616
>Full rework of every spec
I wanted this
>Added retail talents and spells
I'm okay with these
>Retail racials
Sure
>Transmog
Yeah buddy
>Retail hd models
Yeah baby
>Retail spell casting animations
Sure
>Retail races
Only two of em
>Pay to win races
No
>"Realmless" killing the community even further
Realm less is good actually. If you want to play on a server with 70 horde and 400 alliance you can fuck off to your Russian poorfag nigger server
>Catering to gold buying streamers
No, streamers deserve death

Try again pussy
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>>584673821
in the american version it doesnt look like that
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>>584672784
What's wrong with humans being good?
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>>584673831
you guys get dopamine?
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>>584673821
Tauren have black cows, checkmate!
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Sodapoppin just said on Discord that he's dropping out of the $100k dueling tournament after the druid nerfs.
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>>584663616
You forgot the unreal engine shitsmog and default water, the achievements, the gayfaggotry in quests.
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>>584669546
jesus, these side by side comparisons really show haw badly the calarts style has infected the game.
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The new shill script: classic wow had a cartoony artstyle = disney is a cartoon company = retail is disneyslop = therefore retail models are good for classic
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>>584673831
This is what the people clamoring for "horizontal progression" want BTW, every MMO with "horizontal progression" is like this.
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>>584672876
refunded this trash, the wokeshit cycle will never end unless you bankrupt the Calishit companies
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THEY ARE CANCELLING WOW FOREVER

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2107937159852224576
https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2107937159852224576
https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2107937159852224576
https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2107937159852224576
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>>584674038
Stop nooticing.
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>>584673768
this is what Tauren look like. Not some dreamworks/pixar faggotry
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>>584674004
OHHHH NOOOO!! SODA!! PLEASE DONT DROP OUT! SODA PLEASE! PLAY IN THE PVP TOURNAMENT ! MY WELL-BEING IS AT STAKE
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>>584674038
Blizzard will do anything but fix the awful HD models.
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>survival hunter gained 16.7% dps and now comfortably sits #1
>survival heavily incentivized to use automated scripts/ macros for weaving
Aggrend game
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>>584674175
you have taught me a valuable lesson
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>>584670086
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>>584674241
I ain't clicking that shit. What is it?
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>>584668269
i always thought of the orcs as being like the huns too.
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>>584673973
Dwarf and Gnome also have full on dark black skin now
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>>584674306
redirect to an aion2 tweet
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>>584672926
>looks fine to me

anon i have something to tell you about your sexuality that you may not be aware of…
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a feral druid will win the tourney
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>>584674175
Cant even tell which realismslop game this is without someone telling me.
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>>584674004
oh no the horror
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>>584674374
the doomjeets, why do they post this shit? And dont say they are paid, i dont think a competitor would pay a person when they could get 100 bots to do the same thing for less.
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>>584674178
Both are disneyslop, see pic rel. Play a real MMO like Warhammer Return of Reckoning.
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>>584674175
This could've been our Forsaken women but Blizzard is to scared.
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>>584674397
Most likely going to be a hunter.
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>>584674223
Erm, minmax Nazi chud pedo??
You are allowed to not do that thobeit?? Why you complain???
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>>584674217
In their eyes, there's nothing to be fixed.
They resent you for wanting the classic style, actually. But they're begrudgingly giving a half-assed option just to placate you because they care more about money.
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>>584674175
Is that the guy from that Star wars meme where he cried while watching the trailer??
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>>584674038
nobody even complains about it but /here/ and nothing from /here/ matters anyway
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>>584674614
>begrudgingly
Every single promo video they've released uses the SD models.
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>>584673831
don'r say that
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ah fuck it isn't even over yet
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>tfw no point to playing because everything is wiped in 3 days
>tfw game wont be released for another 3 weeks

How am I supposed to cope with this feel
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>>584674805
>blademaster armor
>showcase it using the human model
Wowhead? More like braindead.
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>it was real
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>>584674863
get your own CMaNGOS server up and just play idk
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>>584674043
That is unequivocally vertical progression
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>>584664352
great news they dont either
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Is the reddit malding about layering justified?
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>>584675093
yes
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>>584675093
OMGG
Blood elf females look like THAT????
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>>584675093
yes it's easily the biggest issue with the beta
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Forever is forever ruined
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>>584674501
dunno what you mean anon :^)
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PLEASE do not make Enhancement dual wield again!
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>>584674749
I look like this!
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>>584675214
All of those are disneyslop, they wouldn't look out of place in this piece of woke dogslop.
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>>584674898
we can't have blademaster stuff be horde-only, that would be UNFAIR
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>>584675093
no its better than the alternatives
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>>584675254
cummed
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>>584671526
I literally called this shit look @ the archives

40 days is wayyyyyy too much time an eternity these days and it's given people enough time to enter a DOOM cycle picking through the important details and predicting the exact state of the game before the game even goes out of early access.
Everybody is having second thoughts because the Classic leveling experience isn't actually as great as people hype it up to be, as soon as you start forcing large swaths of the playerbase to level manually outside dungeons suddenly they're getting cold feet and groaning left and right LMFAO
It's just all a confused mess and an attempt to splice two different playerbases that mix like oil and water
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Eat up goy
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>>584674749
This is the life you chose for yourself. I don't know why you're complaining.
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>>584675207
There were rare mobs in the starter zones that dropped common quality gear with stats equivalent to those you'd get from the vendors, that never made sense to me, rares should feel rewarding to kill.
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>>584675416
if you keep posting it, it will magically become true
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>>584675548
for me its the christmas mount
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>>584673821
Stop noticing!
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>>584675190
That's a male wearing thighlet of femininity
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>>584675548
That looks cool doughie?
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>>584675254
Tauren need tribal paint options
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>>584675548
need that for my shammy
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>>584675254
I love tauren women so much bros
Can anyone recommend some actual artist drawing tasteful tauren women?
>>584675761
I agree
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Blizzard changed.... EVERYTHING!!!
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Why the FUCK do they keep changing Shaman's ghost wolf art?
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>>584675845
Holy shit, I need to click this video and find out what changed!
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>>584675663
>the alliance is browner than the horde

Is this some kind of commentary on the absolute state of American politics?
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>>584675596
Sorry, you're right, they look like they're from this disneyslop.
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>>584671887
it helps keep the bots from breezing through the early-game, and filters some of the shitters, there's enough terrible hunter players out there, making it even easier to level one can only be a bad thing.
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>>584675845
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>>584675943
yep
republicans are literal monsters
democrats + canada get the bharati baddies
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>>584674998
>>584672689

It’s funny how despite the political left supposedly being the empathetic ones, they are incapable of putting themselves in other people’s shoes. They cannot make dark/gritty art style for the life of them. They always have to faggify it in some way, it’s in their nature.

Now imagine if a bunch of rightwing racist/sexist chuds were in charge of designing a game for the gay left. They would make it bubbly, cute, rainbow neon color pallets. Then make the gameplay easy (so you dont have to work for your reward) where every class plays the same (so no one is left out) and where you’re the main character (so you can feel like the special snowflake).

That dragon is the last straw for me, i don’t see the game going in a different direction than retail. i havent bought anything so luckily i don’t need to refund
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tbc was a disgusting powercrept mess but they did put hypothermia on mages. wherefore does aggrend then add ice lance but not hypothermia?
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>>584671887
>>584676073
It also adds a sense of progression to the game and works as a tutorial, you get used to using just your ranged attacks and then you get your pet and learn how to use that. It's the same reason you don't get all of your abilities at level 1.
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>>584661927
they homogenized the fuck out of races because they couldn't come up with anything creative to balance, it's been the same for classes just mostly on a smaller scale and once raiding is a reality expect to lose a lot of flavor in the name of balance
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>>584675093
layering sucks ass
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I liked Mace Specialization...
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Good morning /wowfg/
I hate women for ruining World of Worldo
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>>584676146
>make the gameplay easy
>he thinks classic was hard
Oh WoW!
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>>584675548
>WoD model
Didn't Tol Barad literally already have a ghostly wolf with the classic model? Why not use that?
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>>584675093

Broken clock, twice a day... you get the picture
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>>584675548
>Shamans turn into a ghost wolf
>This is fine
>Ghost wolf mount gets made
>Suddenly it isn't fine
Why though
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>>584676238
enjoy your occasional extra 10 dmg instead
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>>584676238
>that forver cinematic
seriously wtf was blizzard thinking animating that disney gay bullshit?
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>>584676384
its fine if its a shaman only mount
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What killed the hype? Provide a picture.
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>>584675839
Barely anyone commissions drawn wow porn anymore due to AI and people accepting horrid quality 3d images.
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>>584676353
What if they put both in and you see the higher definition one when you have HD models enabled? All of these "datamined" mounts are just visually updated versions of old mounts.
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>>584676447
So you're basically riding me?
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>>584676068
Yup
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i cant decide who to play, so whatever class wins the pvp tournament will decide my main
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honestly, why are we theory crafting and min maxxing so much when the end game of this shit was cleared by a bunch of randoms at lvl 40 wearing a mix of gray and green gear
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>>584676521
Why even have a toggle? Why not commit to the classic art style?
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>>584660201
i think there was some kind of inquiry to what men and women play in wow. most players are male, but druid did have a higher percentage of women relative to other classes like death knight or warrior. however, when you broke it down into specs, women playing druid nearly all played resto, a few less playing balance, and women playing feral was nearly non-existent.
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>>584676620
Gritty grimdark sissies... is this true?
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How is mage fun? Stand in the cuck corner spamming fire ball. Really? What garbage.
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>>584658614
I don't care though.
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>>584676731
woah mama
hello ladies
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We need fresh era servers
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Did Aggrend really just
>you think you do, but you don't
about long vanilla AV battles? AV rushes are gay as fuck. Just change the way honour is earned
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>>584676572
yes
we need a quest chain to get epic speed ghost wolf form
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>>584676521
I just think the default for new models shouldn't be retail. The world is still primarily supposed to be classic. If every new asset is by default retail style, it's going to look extremely jarring after just 3 patches.
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>>584676657
people need to be the best because they suck irl.
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>>584676765

I mean every class spams a couple of buttons at the end of the day. I'm rolling lock so I'll inevitably end up spamming shadowbolts
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>>584676415
anon, we REALLY fucking got lucky that they didn't go full retail disney style with it as they did with their vomit inducing housing girlboss one.. and i bet you my ass they probably wanted at first because it looks way cheaper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soq6g3dL1Ys
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Did you refund?
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>>584676657
Molten Core took almost 6 months for the world first full clear, which is the longest time to clear a raid in all of WoW history.
Walking in with less than BiS pre-raid gear meant you wiped on trash.
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>>584675845
I'd like to just say for one second here that these hype youtubers actually spammed way too much trying to convert the launch into a quick moneymaking scheme and fucked pretty much everything with their constant no negativity hype shilling
if all the faggy youtubers actually weren't greedy kikes and cared about what they were doing they would have called Blizzard out with the layering and retail graphics and systems early on
Classic+ doesn't need a fucking achievement menu with a bunch of forced le optional grinds ffs
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>>584676842
AV should've been turned into Wintergrasp from Wrath, vehicles and everything.
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>>584676731
no one thinks wow is gritty or grimdark
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>>584676881
At least melee can move.
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>>584676731
how did blizzard get away with this vile transphobia
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>>584674043
Huh?

There's vertical bro
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>>584676895
these zoomers have absolutely no clue. They think they're so much better playing on modern hardware, modern internet and a wealth of online information about how to play the game as efficiently as possible.
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nobody knows what horizontal progression is
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dwarves should have no racials at all so that their superiority is self evident and unobscured
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>>584676945
This. The beta hype felt fabricated, and it really drowned out real criticism. Videos will be made on this implosion for years.
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>>584676986
enter karazhan crypts
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Shaman should be able to use ghost wolf while dead. That is all.
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is it banned yet?
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I'm going to ride my crimson rooster into battle on my skelf and enjoy it. Fuck you.
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>>584676986
>that thing that everybody thinks? yeah, nobody thinks that.
>>584676146
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>>584677195
You'll be doing it in an empty city
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>>584676415
How the fuck did it surprise you when we have had interviews from the original developers who say that they regret naming the game warcraft?
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>>584677152
Transmongold is a faggot but so are people who he makes seethe
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>>584673423
That would be stupid. If they do that then the human racial needs to remove all forms of stun, snare, slow, and cc.
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>40% dmg reduction
>death coil
>fear
>curse of exhaust
>dots
>drain life
>shadowburn
>vw sac insta summon another vw and re soul link
How do you realistically beat this shit 1v1 lmao.
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>3 weeks from release
>still no Jimothy
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>>584677138
there are horror elements for sure, but it's not grimdark.
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>>584677195
hear me out, this is an epic mount reward from a quest chain starting at 300 cooking
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>>584677152
gotta wait until after launch so blizzard gets all the sub money first
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Somebody is recording all the cringe posting for a grand collage when Forever goes tits up in 6 months… right?
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>>584674184
damn what a cool art, got a full/bigger version?
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>>584677274
>original developers
It's just Cuck Fagzen who said that
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>>584677364
i'd be fine with that if it a quest item from a boss
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>>584677389
stfu you mutt
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>>584677310
PvP should not be balanced around 1v1, as that forces all classes to steadily become closer and closer. Should be based on BGs.
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>>584677152
no, unless blizz wants to shoot themselves on the foot
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>>584677436
If you were confident in Forever’s success this response would be unwarranted.
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>>584674863
Everything is temporary. Your characters on the live realm on Nov 4 will get wiped someday too.
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>>584677496
I fucking hate the concept of "mains", where did this faggot shit come from, (((Dota)))?
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>>584677310
looking forward to playing lock
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>>584677310
double team him cause pvp is never 1v1 then he can never get back up cause it takes fucking forever to resummon 2 pets+healthstone and get mana back
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>>584677496
i main rogue, i never get any changes
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NONE OF THIS MATTERS IT ALL ENDS IN RAID LOGGING
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>>584677389
Yessir
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>>584676850
Who is 'we?'
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>>584663616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgtv8PWdeIQ
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>>584674004
>Druid BITCH has to put more effort in
>Just quits
K W A B
W
A
B
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>>584677389
you say this as if would be something new
99% players already know this will only last a few months, even streamers and ccs despite what they say in their little vids
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>>584677389
>6 months
try 3 weeks
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>>584677674
>>584677682
wemind
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>>584677610
Like this post right here, this needs to go into a cringe compilation so bad it hurts!
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>>584677310
Most classes don't have a great answer unless they're completely geared out because pet survivability doesn't scale well. in group pvp that's a dogshit spec unfortunately
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>>584677310
You just fucking kill him because he has 0 dmg
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New
>>584677821
>>584677821
>>584677821
>>584677821
New
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>>584677724
Have you been reading this thread at all? People are thinking this is the second coming of Christ.
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>>584676498
man with the world going how it is and my job slowly becoming genuinely mindnumbing due to AI I might have to teach myself how to draw after all
I sure have the time.
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>>584677310
It looks like you forgot to pick up damage.
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>>584677778
Mains shouldn't exist, builds shouldn't exist, you should play the game and that's it.
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>>584677626
nvm thats just a single pet SL/SL. for some reason i thought they were going 31 demo for the hp regen instead of siphon life.
Still sucks resummoning after death you are a free kill till you rebuild
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Dammit, do I go lock or priest or mage? I mained mage since 2005 (I was in highschool and I'm in my mid 30s now, fuck). I do love blink but lock has always seemed powerful. And as far as priest goes, maybe it's time to heal? I'm not sure how good or bad shadow priest is though. I'm leaning to lock at the moment.
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>>584676945
>retail graphics
It's just upgraded and improved graphics, we need those
>Classic+ doesn't need a fucking achievement menu
Yes it does wtf
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>>584677389
i plan on playing it for a few months, then quitting once they inevitably soi-out and ban my edgy usernames.
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>>584677310
this isn't even the best 1:1 build, your damage is still kind of ass compared to going for conflag but it's probably good enough.
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Why are we refunding now? What did they do?
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>>584679251
im refunding because alexensual refunded
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>>584679584
We all stand with Alexsensual
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>>584677065
Yea it's extra crazy because some of the world first chasing guilds early became dominant far later on like Blood Legion, NA Horde on Illidan. If they were such shit for the first 3 expansions why did they capture tons of world firsts in the latter expansions?
Anyway, forever WoW looks to be as easy as WOTLK, probably easier.
Why?
Because GEARING. Gearing was hard as fuck in Vanilla. Even having an Epic pre-raid was almost impossible. I mean a single piece of epic gear.
Forever looks to throw better than MC gear at you before you step foot in MC.
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>>584677310
Teleport to Burning Crusade, be rogue, cloak of shadows, shit on Warlocks all day. Free kills desu.
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>>584677631
I feel confident about rogue considering the devs said the goal is for rogues to outdps mages on boss fights.
I'm not sure they even know what that means in vanilla which has Atiesh...
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>>584666068
Sky Elf warriors can charge from glide. Incredibly satisfying to drop down onto someone in PvP and charge them out of nowhere.
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>>584661324
so we dont have belves and this isnt TBC, thanks for playing champ



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