>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Previous Thread>>584632676
>>584645120now thats a good OP
>>584645120whats crazy is that I look like that
>>584645120I can't handle that
>>584645156nobody will play beastmastery for anything other than leveling you dont need to be beastmastery to have the pet out nigga
IS ENHANCE LOSING ITS RNG 1 SHOT VIBE OR NODID THE AP CHANGE AND GEAR CHANGE MAKE IT NOT WIND FURY CRIT SOMEONE MOREthank youif you dont respond to this ur chinese
What would race distribution look like if they just removed racials?
>>584645120very american coded, rather obese
I still haven't decided what to play
Fat elf tits edition.
The Direction of Forever is Not the Vanilla+ Experience That Was Promised.I leveled multiple characters to 20+ and 1 to 30. But then I saw the direction they were going with each update. This is becoming more and more Wrath minus. I specifically heard they were going to take Vanilla and "Plus" it up at Blizzcon and that is not what we got. Perhaps if they finally figure it out, I will play then. But as it stands, I will just watch the dumpster fire from the distance. Not going to say it's a bad game, just isn't for me.
>warlock level 30 >1200 health>succubus has 950 health>had 1800+what the fuck is that nerf? is that similar value to classic or just a giga nerf?
>>584645281alliance becomes 70% night elf overnighthorde stays mostly the same, maybe some more tauren around because almost nobody on horde selects for aesthetics.
>melty over 1% racial discrepancies
>>584645120Tits too big.Belly too fat.Thighs too thick.Disgusting fat penguin wing arms.This niggified creature is not my sleek, elegant and beautiful night elves.
discuss
>>584645349Pet health pools were wildly inflated. I saw a felhunter with 2.2k HP.
>>584645290anything but warrior or warlock is my suggestion
>>584645282low test reply
>>584645303embarrassing
>>584645303You already posted this on the last thread
>>584645395I think you just want warrior and warlock all to yourself.
>>584645382sorry about thati commissioned an artist and they based my OC's looks off of me :3
>584645303>announcing your departure TWICEkek what class are you playing bro?>>5846453491800+ hp succubus at level 30 is not ok anon. 1200 is fine. Do you think she's a tank? She's supposed to have less hp than you..
>>584645349Pets shouldn't have more hp then super geared out twink characters for their level.
>>584645303>esfand viewer
>>584645468Y-You don't look like that *gulp*
>first raid tier is a 20m>onyxia is currently the only confirmed 40m>probably won't require 40 just like old onyAre we finally freed of the 40m raid shackles? Fucking hate that shit.
>>584645468You don't look like that lil gup
I WILL play Elemental Shaman.I WILL chain Chain Lightning casts with Elemental Mastery.I WILL hurl balls of molten lava to melt my foesI WILL fuck every Nelf and Skelf female I see.
hey guys im going dwarf shaman socalled it
>>584645618yeah its all 20man focus
>>584645382Tits too bigBelly too flatThighs too longDisgusting long monkey arms
>>584645618They promised us real 40m and they'd better deliver. Easily the best part of Vanilla/Classic.
>>584645630Your picture has nothing to do with your post.
>>584645489for sure but 900 health? pets are gonna die so fast now
>>584645630you WILL be bottom of the DPS meter
>>584645630need to have sex with this dragon bitch so bad bros
>>584645290Can you play a naked night elf who dances on top of a mailbox?Played classic anniversary and never saw it even once. Severely lacking. You'd probably make bank too.
>>584645618>first raid tier is a 20mIts 10 and 20. The raid they were all super excited about people seeing and their favorite is the 10 man raid.
So what’s the consensusWhat’s actually fun to play now? Should i level a prot/shockadin?
>>584645703succubus was always squishy as fuck. as demo you can instantly summon a new one in combat. how would THAT be fair?
>>584645768lock
>>58464561840m raids are shitfest ludokino thoughbeitever
>>584645120my god is that hideous
>>584645703my lvl 30 resto shaman has 1k healthadmittedly he has meh gearbut i dont see why 900 health for a succy is incorrectwtf is your succy tanking?
so who wants the most bitch role in the entire raid huh?this is what you are going to play to give everyone 15% spirit btw
>>584645658sorry anon you're 9th in line
>>584645809go back to your sharty shithole
>>584645760How the fuck is 10m a raid? It's a glorified dungeon.
>subscription based business model>cant create a game that is relevant for more than 3 monthswow forever is dead on arrival. sweats, content creators, classic players and retails players killed it.
40m raids are basically gonna be LFR tier difficulty. You are meant to get a ton of random shitter pugs to fill out your raids.
Does anyone know if pet damage got changed as well? On both classes
>>584645870define "raid"
Only need one resto shaman for raiding now lolI luv retail homogenization
why is reckoning allowed
hopefully the forever failure will be so catastrophic that will finally kill blizzard altogether
>played turtle>see forever>zero interestblizzard are the worst developers in history.
>>584645695>Easily the best part of Vanilla/Classic.yeah man i love rolling against 19 people for bis it's so classikino! i love spending the first 30 minutes of every raid night pugging because coordinating 40 adults is impossible! i love spending 6 minutes buffing 39 people and drinking! so heckin kino! DAE remember moar dots?? xd
>>584645891As it should be. People have 5 manned stuff like onyxia and mc in classic. You should be going to a 40 man to see the spectacle of a ton of people running around and fighting something huge, not for anything complicated or difficult.
>>584645954You need two shamans. Can you not read?
>>584645269plz answer bros...
>>584645858Never been there, gramps.
>>584645910hunter pet damage got normalized meaning all pets do the same dps now, makes pet choices easier, still probably want faster for pushback pets though
>>584645962meanwhile frost mages can do a 800-900 damage combo with just FOFretard.
Just broke up with gf. She was a bit too woke for me but i put up with it for the insane body and great sex. But im not going to let it hinder me from wow forever in 3 weeks
>>58464594930+ dudes taking down a dragon. Fuck, we'll allow 25.
>>584645962how does it work?
>>58464569540man is dead, you will get the occasional glorified instanced world boss like Ony, that's it
>>584645994ooo lil fellas angrysrry, if you don't like it get a refund
>>584646104>he doesn't know
>>584645965Don't look at Nov 4th twitch #s and other metrics fellow doombro. We'll just close our eyes together.
>>584646106Sex really isn't that important once you've had it. You're free bro.
Now what I'd love to see is a truce.Wipe the slate clean.The streamers, the retailtards, the meme tournament, put it all behind us.The mage buffs, whatever happened there.
>>584646091I guess that change is only for Hunters and not related to Warlocks?
>>584646123you get stacks when you get crit, at 4 stacks you just get 4 swings instant with seal procs, later hoj procs etc it can just blow people up
>>584646106retard?how did she not conform to your beliefs, are you even a man?
>>584646091That is fucking gay
>>584646153>don't look at all the viewbots blizzard will pay!I won't, I know better you have to wait 3 weeks for the psyop money to run out and then we'll get to see the dumpster fire this shit game will be
>>584645986So easy to get a team together when you're actually fair to people. Rude people hate 40m because they can't gatekeep.
>>584646193not that i know of, lock just seems like it got the hp nerf
>Champion of the light went from 100% to 60% to 30% spell damage within the span of 2 weeksIs there a greater indication that this game is being phoned in? This shit is supposed to come out in 3 weeks and they're still making sweeping changes
>>584646139>>584645962yea I don'tLMAOmages are now even more disgusting
>>584646104ice lance was nerfed by 33%
>>584645962thank god they gutted enh shaman but gave reckoning back to paladins
>>584645269Yes they can still walk up to people and herpderp them in one hit with windfury.
>>584646347how did they gut it>>584646197so its crits against u? seems hard to use
https://www.twitch.tv/kungentv/clip/DeafRepleteChickpeaNotATK-HR-TUZmOtKklkwCToh no no no
When is the drama tourney?
Tauren is peak journey now+3% mount speed
>>584646323they moved the damage to coccan't wait to get blasted by a 2000+ damage coc
>>584645986>complains about not having easy 'bis'you don't even like classic and should play retail.
>>584646391you can force it with spamming /sit, its awkward but its not hard to get, and fast classes like rogue tend to give it to you fast, thats why a lot of reck clips are rogues getting 1shot
ALEXENSUAL REFUNDED its over. Its genuinely over
so do we all quit with alex?
>>584646471wouldn't be your first time getting blasted by coc gay boy
>>584646391>so its crits against u? seems hard to useNah, it's good vs melee (smaller more frequent crits) and okayish vs casters.
>>584646393This guy is fucking retarded if he thinks the Forever human crit racial stacks up even remotely close to the Vanilla weapon skill racial.
>2 druids 2 paladins and 2 shamans in the raid>one priest dips for the 15% spirit buff and just heals outside of one mind blast every 10 seconds>stack fury warriors>rogue on the benchwe are so back
>>584646165so what do you do when you're horny, watch Jewish porn that destroys your brain? Lmao
Shaman totems are raid wide now but we only have one sign up...Does that mean our raids will have flametongue and grace of air instead of windfury?
>>584646207I don’t care if she conforms to beliefs personally, but woke people refuse to acknowledge that not everyone thinks the same way as them. So that was reason enough, I’m not going to have someone(try) to lecture me when i say ‘regard’ It’s just sex anyhow and the love of my life broke up with me 2 years ago anyway over distance issues. No other woman compares in a non-sexual way so i have no issue dropping them at the slightest inconvenience. I’ll just download hinge again and go back to random-banging someone once or twice a week
>>584646558You should have made your own porn with your gf.
>>584646396can not wait for this shit to be over, the constant complaining andf fake drama from streamer fags and their minions is absolutly insufferable...... also no idea when the deperate houswifes faggot tournament is
The first rogue spec has officially fallen into C tierit is just barely treading water above smite priest
>>584646616If you have 1 shaman and he is refusing to drop windfury you kick that retard immediately.
>>584646706they hid the survival weave, it was rank 2 earlier
>inb4 pay2win melty
I'm too old to keep up with these 10 page sweeping patch notes every weekIs there some tuber man that's not cringe and who doesn't start his videos with HEY GUYS GOONCOOL HERE AND TODAYS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY GOONCRATE?
>>584646690I would rather have sex or get a blowjob than watch anything thank you. Making good porn also just takes away from being in the moment of good sex
>>584646706This means jack shit because we don't know gear and overall scaling at later levels including set bonuses etcA complete non-factor sim
>>584646651thats sadgo to church, meet a nice girl
What the hell did they do to Ele???What are those Dwarf and Tauren racials?Are these people COMPLETE hacks???They are paid real life burgerbux for this shit, THEY ARE PAID REAL LIFE MONEY FOR THESE CHANGES.
>>584646782take a good look at that snout
>>584646782I just skim until I get to the parts that are relevant to me & the classes I intent to put effort into.
BLUE PUMPER META
>>584646872Anyways you stupid faggot, see you Nov 4th.
>>584646782they took me 1 minute to read this morning and the answer to your question is obviously NO.
Redpill me anons. Will they fix layering before launch?
>>584646912Ill be in ZA and SWP until they put someone competent in Forevers class design you worthless nigger
>>584646839bro... you can literally go look at rogue's trees right nowsub's capstone is vastly worse than a talent assass gets 11 points in, precision is nerfed, dual wield specialization is nerfedrogue's tier set effect would have to be completely busted to save them in this state
>>584646651>love of my life>distance issuesif she was the love of your life you'd move to live with her you idiot. Grow up a little, everyone's first proper love is their 'love of their life' until you realise that
pve niggas rlly be like>hey look this is S++++++++ tier>it hypothetically does 8 more damage with perfect play on a patchwork fight THIS GAME IS A WARSONG GULCH SIMULATOR PVE IS A GEAR SIMULATOR MINIGAME WHERE U PLAY WITH WAGIES
>>584647006they've already said they're completely changing the sub talent for a chinese one
>>584646991they can't even balance 25 year old classes, what do you think retard?
warlock or mage for pvp
>>584646908Are people really shitting themselves over 8 dps?
>>584647006nigga they're still changing shit and rogue etc doesn't have their chinese talentwhy the fuck is there a sim when nothing is set in stone and we don't know how gearing after level 30 looks?it's a stupid fucking simulation of nothing
>>584647085warlock is "better" but a fucking slog to play
>>584647085mage if you want to win bgslock if you want to win 1v1
>>584647093Yes
>>584647093All people have to see is>skelf does the most damageeven if its only 8 more dps and thats enough. Thats enough for people to repeat that skelfs are the best dps and when people hear skelfs are the best dps they're prio skelfs.
>he didnt come from retail>he doesnt have a fat slut witch wife whose 30+ >he isnt getting cucked and SPH'd >he isnt picking shaman you guys COULD NEVER, have a fraction of my swag
>>584646173This post is advertising or begging.
ALEXENSUAL USED TO RUN THIS THREAD
>>584647229>picthe warning signs already were there in the before pictureevery single time guys gooning over "chubby" girls get stuck with a landwhale 5 years into the relationship
ALEXENSUAL LEFT USSWIFTY NEVER LEFT USSWIFTY IS MY BULL
>>584645383Arcane goes into spriest and mana tide group
>>584647325swifty is a rapist
qrd
>Well-timedWe are spamming that shit on cooldown. We have 4 buttons and we can't use two of them freely. Just let exo hit everything for fucks sake.
>>584647352night elf movement speed now stacking keeps them no1 for most classes
faction hopping faggots need to get the fuck off alliance, go back to your mudhuts niggers
>>584645768Warlock will probably come out on top
Do I need to make a guild for myself if I don't want to be bothered by requests?
>troll regen buffed to 20%and people here said they would nerf my troll brostazdingo, bitches.
>>584645382basedelves should be skinnyhumans and draenei for titmonsters
yesterday I was basically convinced that I was going to roll shaman on launch, but today I woke up and really want to play druid now...
>>584647387you will only use conc and holy shield and be happy
>>584647464whats the best way to make use of the trolls 20% regen
>>584645851I-I'm doing my part!
>>584647491play fury warrior and never stop pulling
>>584645290me neitherwarlock, mage, shaman and rogue are all in consideration
>>584647464warlock now has free taps without needing to healyou almost auto regen to full life between pulls
>>584647445You can turn off invites
>>584645120Nelfs are quite literally built for pleasuring cock
>>584647475Delete this.
>>584647445No. There's an option in the settings to automatically decline invites.
>>584647467Make Draenei Titmonsters and Humans Assmonsters
>>584646908>>584646761>>584646706Nice ai dog shit you absolute retards
The tauren nerf fucking sucksIm gonna go quit early to play the new poe1 league instead
>>584647473>druidEw furry
>>584646761>0.7 dps increase for 30$
>>584647614It's a buff if you were planning on playing balance druid
>>584647585I'll allow it
The 3% haste is crazyGuess blizzard is gonna make big money now that we're forced to buy the p2w race
yeah i’m just gonna play arms warrior
called it
>>584647614>new poe1 league insteadimagine when poe2 release is around the corner especially after that complete and utter garbage poe1 league currently runningLOL
>your spec>your race>your kinkill startenhancedwarfbbws
>>584646782put your bifocals on and read old man
>more retail changes>now with retail looking store mountsI'm afraid token will be made available in less than a year.
>>584645851>chance to hit with holy spellswhy
Ally sky elf's get a fucking personal innervate
>>584647614>>584647741I was shitting on poe1 new league being 1 month before poe2 because I was going to play forever but yesterday I refunded this piece of crap game and will play poe1 league instead, blizzard did me a massive favor by being an incompetent retarded company
>>584647741>Poe2>Releaseit's a fake releaseit still needs another 3 years to catch up with 1
>>584647691no one wants to play balance
>>584647852I think PoE1 needs 3 years to catch up to current year PoE2 end game.Having fun opening boxes because 99% of farming strats are nerfed?
>>584646908>human above orcthe fucking state of zugs actually believing this
ngl i dont get the appeal of arpgsit just looks like people clicking moving while the whole room explodes around them for hours
>>584647819because you got 3 filler talents and have to put them somewhere so making shackle not resist is the best i guess
>>584648007reduced mana cost of instant spells is good!
>>584646908>this sim with perfect uptime of bloodfury is still less dps then humanthis shits retarded, why even have bloodfury?
was set on warlock but maybe ill play priest instead
>>584648084because they're orcs not humans
>orc warlock got buffed
>>584647979It's basically just that. It's for the people who want to play afk games like vampire survivors or clickers but pretend they're actually doing something.Number go up is all they need.
>>584647979yeah the genre has completely changed from its originit would be nice to see a slower paced arpg with 1/10th the enemy count
>>584645851why when were stacking spriest like SoD again
>>584648084this retard sim thinks 2% crit damage is within 1% of 2% crit chance bro it does not work
New AIslop sim just dropped
>>584647614I'm leaning towards just playing the poo1 league first and joining wow forever after it's been out for a month. No way this doesn't become a shitshow at launch. Servers will suck and the devs will change 100 things in that time
>>584647979Same. Sacred 1 was the only diablo-like I enjoyed because it has an open world and almost plays like a real RPG.
>>584647741it’s an endgame rework league so it’s guaranteed to be good. i’m actually sad it’s releasing so close to forever since i probably won’t play it much
If your class has a 100% more critical damage, the 2% more crit damage racial from tauren/dwarf is better than 1% more crit chance at 33% crit chance (and keeps getting better with more crit chance)
>>584648232>this aislop sim says feral the best tank>the other aislop sim says feral is the worst tank
>>584648209theres not going to be a single shadow priest in the raid because their only utility is covered by that spec
>>584647691It's a nerf for raiding as balance because you still need 13% hit. Feral grabs the talent too and only needs 5% for raids after, 4% with the talent. Gearing for only 4% hit is actually difficult, or would've been in classic at least. Imagine skipping out on things like accuria because you have too much hit. So it's kinda whatever which you get as feral pve.Objectively a buff for balance pvp though.
>>584648267bro, forever will be dead in less than one month, the devs have no idea what they are doing
>>584648313you take them for 100% uptime VE and drop healers for more DPS
>>584648284do we know if it’s additive or multiplicative with those talents?
>>58464828433% is a lot of crit. Has it been confirmed to be multiplicative (200%*1,02 = 204%) rather than additive (200%+2% = 202%)?
>>584648443its additive on the beta right now
>Find Treasure: Now also grants a chance to find additional itemsImagine raiding horde and getting cucked on domo loot
>>584647979you simply never played poe, the game is fun because it has an insane amount of depth and you have to dedicate a lot to learn it, that's why it has such a high and loyal player base
>>584648474prove it
>>584648376the healing from vampiric meme is never going to be enough for tanks
>>584648478don't worry they'll have infinite black lotuses xd
>>584648474that would be consistent with the wording anyway
>>584648508it quite literally was enough in SOD stacking them, im not talking one or 2
>>584647014I did. We met in school in Australia, she’s American I’m Canadian, she lives in Rochester and i moved to Toronto to be close while we figured out permanent residency. But we could only see each other once a month or so.Don’t be so quick to assume.
>>584648551It works like the meta gems
>>584647979You only make the room explode by picking the right specs and gear. Yes there is optimized specs you can pick but that eliminates the fun. The satisfaction comes from building out your character the way you want and getting the right gear (that actually changes you abilities, not just boosting stats) so you can get to the point you are a killing machine.
>Dwarf>* Now has huge genitals that hang out and drag on the ground when moving around to make up for us hating Shaman.t-thanks
>>584648538capped at 50g so who cares
the 2% inc crit damage should work like the gemssame effect on wowhead
>>584648483nobody cares why you liked the game, the schizophrenic tranny is simply baffled by click click click click games. he probably has carpel tunnel.
guys, remember to log in to keep your character nameshttps://www.swtor.com/info/news/article/20261014-1
>>584648467Retail has the exact same racial for tauren and dwarf/ meta gems are all multiplicative.
>>584648192>it would be nice to see a slower paced arpg with 1/10th the enemy countThat would have been PoE2 if not for mazed PoE1 players constant menstruation.Literally same situation with Forever, devs listened to e-celebs and pivoted from the vision™.
>wake up>read patch noteswe humans just can't stop winning, eh?https://files.catbox.moe/r4q193.mp4
>>584647564>>584647583Cool, do they get a message to see that I'm above them?
>>584648736>Retailyeah and right now it doesnt work that way
I think i miss Era
>>584648672>>584647979Also just to add playing arpgs with a keyboard is just retarded. Zero need for it. Play it with a controller with rumble and have fun.
>>584648785I just tested it and it's multiplicative.
>>584648786i definitely miss era, but not as much as i miss f r e s h
>>584648232why do people post this shit, no one knows what gear at max level looks like
>>584648743Good job on that anon.
>>584648852people are stupid retards, probably coming from retail
>>584648678but only for female dwarves
>>584648786I regret not moving my classic anniversary character to an era server. Now my 60 is going to be wasted being transfered expansion pack to expansion pack I will never play or care for.
>>584648785Nigger I mention RETAIL and you start foaming at the mouth.
>>584648743holy FUAAAAAAAAAAARK
>>584648852because the meta moves everything around me and modern vidya players have lost their souls. it isn't accurate, but the behavior it indirectly reveals is accurate.
>>584648743How did you maked this?
>>584648743Reporting for duty of the Scarlet Crusade, ma'am!
>>584649046slopped with keyframes
>>584648232i dont understand the difference between ret and shockadinis shockadin just spell damage paladin and ret is pure str stam?
>>584647794Sorry bro I'm one of the few of my spec race combo and don't want you guys to always think he's into THAT when I post
>>584649192yeah
>>584649189lol that's the tourny creator? a fucking sand nigger?embarrassing
>>584649176women be like i'm not asking for it!
>>584649176dear lord what the hell is this shit anon. why do i find her so lickable
>>584649176She's gonna wake up and feel dehydrated as fuck
Turtle had more soul than anything Blizzard has shown with Forever
>Warlock pet HP nerfed by 75%>no one at blizzard thought that was relevant for the patch notes
one day left til my twitch prime is up and i still can't find even one streamer worth subbing to. grim
>>584649374removing the knock back from the booty bay bruiser buckshot is the most soulless anti fun thing ive ever seen blizzard do
>>584646991Fix layering? As far as they are concerned its working as its supposed to.
>>584645851What's up with only 3 points in Imp Mind Blast?
>>584649227isnt he mexican?
>>584649176Like what slopping tool did you use? Looks very high quality
>>584645383
>raid wide totemsmany kex, good luck getting a spot as anything but resto
>>584649456yea man griefing quests, npcs and players is anti fun
>>584647741>poopoo2
>>584649556Bring the player not the class, gigudnub
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>streamer is going to rmt and kill you in game with his rmted gear and make a video and you'll look bad online>no dungeon quest exp>tiny +20% dungeon mob exp>no new classes>bad balance classes>insane new gear power creep>shitty old gear>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>unbalanced pvp>rogues top 1 dps because yes>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>insane balance changes every single week by the SC2 balance team that make absolutely no sense but disappoint everyone>dev doesn't play the game and thinks troll has strong racials>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't realize night elf racials are overpowered>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't think>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to>last time I'll post this because I refunded this piece of shit game lmao>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own mother>you can't disable the fog anymoreyep, they gave up on wow fogever
>>584648852Severe mental retardation.
>>584649618>Bring the player not the class, gigudnubnow they'll just stack the best dps class instead of being forced to use multipe of every class
>actively kneecapping hybrids>the swarthy nigger's rhythm game is untouched>giving mages brand new spells that basically just buff them>xaryu suddenly doesn't care about mage being "boring" because ice lance hits like a fuckin AT4HOPE TO FUCK NO HUNTER PLAYERS PISS OFF A STREAMER BROS OR IM OUT OF MAINS ON DAY 1
blizzard HATES shamans, it is known
>>584649520static images in anima with 3d and whitemane loras and animated with minimax with stitching together few segments afterwards
>Spend weeks hearing "paladin is the developer's pet class">It keeps getting nerfed>It's the worst healer>It's the worst tank>Seal twisting ret players don't like the new seal twisting gameplay and non-seal twisting ret players still don't like it even with the changesI guess some people abuse their pets.
>>584649227yeah, and his family are predictably scammers that got caught in construction fraud
>>584649665>biggest streamer killed his own motherchatis this true?
>>584645120
>>584649723yeah i think asmon is still the biggest streamer, wow streamer at least
>>584649706You did a really good job anon, I'm proud of you.
>get survey>question about racials>uses old racialsdevilish
When is this stupid streamer tourney anyway
>>584645630Reminder that an orc forced this girl to rape her sons repeatedly so theyd knock her up over and over this creating more dragons for the orcs to ride.Just thought id bring that up
>>584649871At its core? Money laundering.
>>584649871tomorrow. aren't you excited to see your favorite millionaire streamer win $50,000?
you guys think I can get from lvl 1 to 30 on this Night Elf Bear Druid before the Beta Ends?
So on the 19th the stress test happens and characters get wiped. Do we have to level a new character for the rest of beta after that?
>>584649904>whenalso>implying doing all this shit is an efficient way to launder 100k
>>584649731show her fat nipples and hairy pussy
>>584649665You sound raped.
>>584649723Only if you think not having your mother under 24/7 surveillance makes it your fault when she does something she's not supposed to
>Claude make a version of WoW that we can market as Classic+ but also make it appealing to Retail players so they jump ship and migrate after the Worldsoul saga ends.>Make no mistakes.
>look at class forums>druids: they have no idea what's going on, just arguing about their two (2) race options>rogues: have already run out of rope>paladins: talking about fishing and how to weave sitting into their tank pulls for reckoning>shamans: are trolling each other and just saying to roll a mage if you want a caster buildit's probably the best part about these updates
>>584649951>log in to stress test>discover my toaster can't run forlo >free from this game foreverif this game runs well i think it will literally kill me, so my entire life has led to a stress test.
>>584649731needs her clitty in a cage
>>584649946Why would you?
>>584650048I'm about to jump ship to the vibecoded TES2 MMO.
>>584650001he gave her the cigarettes she used to self-immolate
>>584649946easily
>>584649872I thought it was Vael repeatedly breeding her. Which is still her son, but I'm just saying
>>584649802
>>584650134uh... to pway the heckin' game!?
>>584650048Isn't there still one more expansion in the saga? Is that also going to be shit?
>>584650142I'm waiting for the claude dark souls wow to get better then I'll just play that.https://youtu.be/tCs0_OINnlc
>>584649953Well its no strip club but where the money's coming from and where its going certainly launder it.
Hunters should use Focus instead of Mana1) Mana is for magical classes, for spellcasters. Hunters are martial class, just like Rogues and Warriors. Mana makes no sense for them lorewise.2) Focus is even more Classic than Mana, because Hunters used Focus in early pre-release builds of Vanilla. They also could use shields, but it is a story for another time.Also, this is the exact reason why Hunter's pets use Focus instead of Mana, unlike Warlock's pets. The mechanic is already in the game and was here from the beginning.3) After recent Mage changes I am not sure there is even a point to care about staying Classic at first place. We already have tons of talents and abilities from other expansions. And some classes are even have entirely new abilities. I mean, Mages just got 2 new spells out of nowhere.Focus for Hunters is iconic. There are literally no reasons for them to use Mana.
>>584650196i'm kind of upset that wow has this vast treasure trove of mindbreak via mating press storytelling and the degen playerbase is too lazy to produce doujinshi
>>584650226Yeah, its just going to be cataclysm but for specifically northrend.
Reminder to not roll tauren druid so I can be a special snowflake
>>584650243All the people crying about Aggrend buffing paladins just for him to fucking destroy every spec but Esfand's and then gigabuff Mages really does bring the lore full circle from the Vanilla beta 22 years ago.Tigole and Furor would be so proud.
>>584649951Beta and Stress are different servers. You'll keep your beta characters on the beta test version to go back to, but have to make a new character for stress test.
>>584650279explain arcane shotexplain how volley doesnt consume arrows
>>584649990https://files.catbox.moe/csn82a.png
>>584650502cagenow
>>584650279Vanilla alpha focus built up as you attacked, but you lost 100% of it if you took a single step. Do you want to be a turret? Because that's what you'd be.
>>584649706>>584650204Very nice. Looks like zentaeron's style
>>584650502Mating press by an orc next
>>584650502sexoooocan you gen her face down ass up, shaking that shit?
>>584650470they said full wipemeaning the beta server will be gone and it will be the US regional server for the stress test, and launch
>cage the clittyWhat does this even mean?
>>584650351>gigabuff mageswhere are people getting this idea?they added a replacement for rank 1 frostbolt (which still works btw) that costs more mana
I'm not a calcfag and shit but isn't this racial really good?
I thought there'd be less gooners in classic than retail, I guess not considering the people in this thread...
>>584650673like every alliance racial, it is insanely good
>>584650673not really seems mid as fuck
>totems are raidwideSo, you're saying if I run resto I get to cuck an enhance/elemental shaman from taking another raid spot?
>>584650590>>584650204>>584649706Now give me Whitemane flexing her muscles as she steps on my crotch POV
>>584650673mana does something in fights you go oom and you can cast an additional spellenergy might be good in pvp but close to useless in pverage is actually useless
>>584650673really good for rogue
>>584650668I believe he is trying to say something to the effect of "Please generate an image of this character with a penis, encase said penis in the device known as a "chastity cage", and post it for my viewing pleasure."
>>584650760also, anon is caged
>>584650671What other class got a buffed equivalent of using a rank 1 spell? Do Paladins get a new spell they can use to simulate casting a rank 1 seal to bait dispels?How about shaman using rank 1 lightning bolt to bait clearcasting.Priests?Druids?Warlocks?Nah just mages bro. BTW bouncing around spamming ice lance will still kill people.
>>584650673Only good for pvp rogues and arcane mages.Blizz isn't going to make fights long enough that manapool matters because then casters will complain that they don't get to press buttons.
>>584650839>GIGABUFFED BROIt's literally just a slow for pvp that's now a separate spell so that retailfags know they're supposed to use it
>why would you bring a rogue
>>584650839so fucking what? they got le rank 1 frostbolt back, omg!!!!! so what nigger?
>>584650903>didnt answerThought so. Bye felicia.
>>584650470Mhh okay the talk about wiping made me not so sure but that's probably it
>>584650953Rank 1 frostbolt still worked. It's not a buff.
>>584650903nta but it procs all the stuff frost spells proc and gets all the bonuses from frost talents.
>>584651027I was already getting procs from r1
>>584650952If its so inconsequential then they dont need it.
>>584650658https://files.catbox.moe/z4ie1q.png
Reddit can be based sometimes
>>584651054in the level 30 beta? no way
>>584650590
>>584650579Yes.
>>584651054Devs said the higher you level the lower the chance of procs on low rank spells becomes. If you are 60 you'll never get a frostbite or fingers proc off r1 frostbolt.
>>584651105Nelf slop makes me miss nelf wifey
>>584650673It should go back to being intEven for rogues and warriors
>>584651105holy fvark left girl da sexo
>>584649508you only need to cast it once every 10 seconds to buff the raid with 15% spirit otherwise you are a healer
>>584648232>arms warrior>anything but bottom dps with 0 rage generationbased hallucinations
>Alliance gets Stormwind harbor with the most kino sea view in the entire game, a huge LotR like keep in the Riverglades with the coolest new soundtrack so far full of callbacks to the original Warcraft games, on the ground Dalaran that looks awesome when it snows there and a new cozy RP inn in the Wetlands>Horde gets a designated ogre shitting corner in the Riverglades that plays the awful tribal bongo drum musichow is this fair
Magebros, our lobbying worked. We are back to our well deserved hero class tier, our Fight Club friends offered their full support so don't forget to bug blizzard for a new low level %hit talent in the arms tree.
>>584650204Not really into piss but very nice
I may be porn addicted but at least I fucking hate trannies
This shit needs to get nerfed asaphttps://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1x73wfh/doubling_the_troll_regeneration_passive_is_the/
>>584651493its not, thats why they're nerfing all the horde racials and buffing all the alliance racials.
>>584651105very nice, thanksone more with her doing a double cheek spread?
I WILL be afking in your AV, and you couldn't do anything about it, how does that make you feel classic boi?
>>584651565Yep there's no reason not to.Even if it's not optimal honor/hr anymore, you don't need optimal to get capped.Non-fix.
>>584651524You hate them.... for now. Seriously before you'll know it you'll jerk of to the things you hate.Speaking from experience here..
>>584651565i couldnt care less bro im not even playing forever on launch day. i ll wait until hardcore is out then evaluate whether the game is worth playing
>>584651493a LORE-ACCURATE designated shitting corner. get it right, zugmonkey
>>584645383behold optimal raid comp
>>584651565>he is not farming harpies for gold while the pvp chuds farm him honor and rep
priestlet here, have a questionshadow priests are a mana battery again but kinda scuffed since they give spirit instead of straight up mana? isnt spirit useless in combat if you dont have mana reg talents while casting?
>>584651537OH MY GOD QUICKBURN DUROTAR TO THE GROUND HE IS ABLE TO FACE TANK ONE (1) EQUAL LEVEL MOB WITH A GIMPED SET OF MAX SPIRIT GEAR
>>584651563https://files.catbox.moe/2dvmc6.png
>>584650204Please gen some more vids, anal is the best.
>>584651105why arent they making out
>>584651493The ogre area looks like it's going to have some arena at some point
>>584651537gamepad players should be executed (in game)give gamepad user icon in LFG so i can ignore all the cozy couch retard dad gamers and womenplease and thank you
>>584651758>BURN DUROTAR TO THE GROUNDthis
>>584651757yes but blizzard doesn't have any idea how people play the game (or they don't care), so they don't understand that you can't just wish a raid comp into existence, and that people will play what's actually good and not what retards at blizzard hq ENVISIONED
>>584651757Everyone has mana reg while casting talents now though.
>>584650760>>584650812cages are kinda unhealthy for ur pp, especially flat oneshttps://files.catbox.moe/68vl4d.mp4>>584651105flatties rule>>584651518a little kink here and there just adds some flavour
>classic heads kept priding themselves on balance being a bit wacky, racials being all over the place >forever comes around>intense seething if every race isnt within 1% of one anotherCool! Very cool!!
>>584651747This. At least use the chance to get gold along with your afk gains, bonus is you can't be reported.
>>584651861oh no the guy pressing shadow bolt is pressing shadow bolt on a controller
>check out stormwind on the PvE server>not a level 30 in sight
>>584651493Uhm, we also get a lvl 30 spider cave in Mulgore, ok?!?
Wait i just realised, with the megaserver changes, doesn't it mean you will never ever be able to play both alliance and horde pvp characters?
>>584651912Thanks bro!
>>584651565I saw an afk person like once in AV during anniversary and everyone in the battleground reported him lol.Being afk in battleground is a banable offense.Also why? You're hurting yourself. Just kill people for the extra honor and have fun.
>>584652028yeah you cant
>>584651970Yes people rather level different characters than just farm bis gear for lvl 30 characters.
>Forever is Jailer won pocked dimensionGet me out of heeere!
>>584652028you are about a month late
>>584652028correct
>>584651493Grouping Dalaran with the alliance is always good bait.
>>584652028
>>584652064just hit level 30 bro
>>584652028you can. just buy another sub
>>584651912pissing during/before sex ruins the natural lubrication and makes sex feel bad. Youd know this if..
Since they are updating old zones I hope they will introduce new raids same as they did with AQ where you first saw small bugs in Barrens and then slowly discovered bigger and bigger hives.
>>584652028Thats the point.
>>584652028theres a war on son, pick a side
>>584652119it's now fully alliance, the sanctuary bullshit has been deleted in this build and guards are properly tagged for pvpt. beta haver
so humans won
>>584652364FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>584652319So my choices are:* The chosen people whose cities, areas and races got 90% of the development attention and which all of the developers play themselvesOR* The victimised subhumans that are nothing but background target fodder
>>584652364Dalaran still has 2 bank areas so they will be a sanctuary city eventually.
If you're not a warrior or a mage then I'm sorry to say but you don't deserve anything good.Warriors are the raid heroes and mages are world/dungeon heroes, this is how it has always been and going against tradition is literally retail.
I actually like the new unitframes, they are a good compromise between the old and new
so is this the ele build now? having ghost wolf and water shield sounds so fucking comfy as ele now that water shield works on dmg crits
What is it with white people acting like the horde are still some persecuted minority?
>>584652483no, its going to be putting everything into resto.
>>584652451all npcs in both banks are alliance pvp tagged btw, hordcucks lost bigly
>>584652483whats comfy about reapplying water shield every 3 crits?
Hows playing druid on a PvP server? Just rooting and running away from everyone?
>>584652572>babbys first false flag
>>584651793goated, thanks for doing the requests
Patch in 1 month: Skelves teach dwarves druid and dwarves teach skelves shamanAnd for horde, skelves get mage
>>584652465I haven't seen them, what's the difference?
>>584652605No your a skeleton who throws bombs at people while blasting lazer beams and swiping.I'm not joking btw. Watch a druid pvp video.
I still cant believe Turtle terramogged Blizzard. Why are they unable to understand what players want from a true Classic +? Why do they insist of modernising everything? Fuck them i hope Forever crashes and burns
>>584645120>>584649731>>584647569nice
>>584652605Yeah, they fixed hybrids by making them actually deal damage but the problem is specifically for druids is they liked to do a bit of everything in pvp. Now you're not going to go into feral and do decent physical damage then jump out to shoot a decent moonfire and cast a decent hot while building your character to dip into all trees. You're going to have to go all in on one spec and be complete shit at everything else.
>>584652706>Why are they unable to understand what players want from a true Classic +?crossfaction guilds, no world pvp, programmer socks and bg experience so terrible everyone gets one shot by naxxramas geared retardly overbuffed half ranged retri paladins is now true classic+?
>>584651912>cages are kinda unhealthy for ur pp, especially flat onesYeah but from what I've seen people into that also get off to the thought of becoming infertile and not able to get an erection anymore. So they get what they want
>>584652589water shield actually looks kinda shit for anything but solo grinding where you can press it between mobsit's total for shit for elemental pve dps because it takes a gcdit's kinda fine for healing because you can press it on downtime but it's still pretty whatever
>>584652435so which one is which?
>>584652706So why are you here instead of playing on turtle?
>>584652784im not saying turtle did everything right but what it did do is respect Classic infinitely more than Blizzard
>check the notes>every class now brings all the buffs and everything is raid wideOk, so we're just back to wrath where the only difference between classes is how much dps they do? This doesn't seam very vanilla. They're also giving so much aoe/cleave to classes I really have no idea how dungeons are going to look at 60.
>>584651493they just made a stadium-sized big shit pit for the duel tournament, maybe they'll let you mudniggers keep it?
>>584650839>Do Paladins get a new spell they can use to simulate casting a rank 1 seal to bait dispels?What's the use case for this over rank 1 seal? You're not proccing anything so you can just use rank 1.>How about shaman using rank 1 lightning bolt to bait clearcasting.What's the use case for this?>Druids?What's the use case for this?>Warlocks?What's the use case for this?
>>584652818yeah thats what i meantnothing good about pressing it in the middle of your rotation
warlock bros... are we ok after the patch??
>>584652972barely any changes and just bug fixesSL/SL still good
>>584652949>What's the use case for this?
>Paladins are crying>Clothies are coming backWasn't expecting this outcome, but I wonder what bullshit they cook in the next 3 weeks.
>>584646489Didn't this nigga buy a new pc AGAIN a few weeks ago just to play this shit?nigga is legit insane. He does this exact same thing every single arc
they should just randomly add horde ogre content to any new zone they patch inGilneas? the ogre mobs from cataclysm quests are the main horde basenew zone above Moonglade? a tribe of ogres took over a furbolg village there, it's the new horde basenew zone beneath Stranglethorn? a tribe of ogres took over some troll ruin, it's the new horde base
>>584652483Something like this will be the raid build. Water Shield isn't worth taking up the gcd. You can invest a bit more into Enh to get half cost on your shocks. If they actually add mechanics to fights you can still take improved ghost wolf.
>>584652972void lost like 50%hp and imp folds from a critter fart, but also imp pumps a bit more now, like 20% of your dps in perfect condition in demo spec, overall okayish
>>584653079>buying new PC for WoW Foreverwhy?
>>584652784>crossfaction guildsthat's a good thing>no world pvppeople raided towns sometimes it was fine>programmer sockswho cares, let the gm have his fun>bg experience so terribleskill issue, bgs were great
well, SPriest just got pretty goodmight roll a priest after all class looks decentwish i could say the same about ele
>>584652972Did you ever hope to sell warlock summons or ever summon more then a single person? Cause they killed that shit.
>>584653129yeah I think it's more like this for raids, water shield sounds since for dungeons atleastI really like they changed tidal wave to the 1st row, 5% hit chance is huge
>>584653161To see the soulfog.
>>584653161nnnnnnnggggggg im particle densityingggggg
>>584653215the hit talent being in the first row saved both ele and enh a lot of point investment
with how many people went leatherworking on sham, I'm kinda inclined to go alchemy instead because I feel like I could find a leatherworker to craft me gear in my guild or something
>>584653161WoW forever runs like shit with its new lighting and fog you can't turn off anymore. I get sub 60 in capitals with a 5060ti and I'm not alone.The lighting is so bad they made it so people can't use the new torch item in towns because it destroyed frame rate.
they should add more cool RPG shit instead of appealing to parsetranny minmaxing FAGGOTS
>>584653286The best leather working stuff is bop and also you can now craft some parts of your tier sets, also shamans have a really great bop totem that gives you extra 8% mana regen while casting thats in enchanting. You probably want to go enchanting for that totem then go lw.
>>584653286Most people are just gonna stick with the iconic mining/engineering for live launch. Engineering is still stupidly good and without the level lock you won't have as many people taking the time to craft gear while leveling.
>>584653294the very fact that you get sub 60 with that card means that it's an optimization bug and not a significantly higher strain on your GPU, because there is no conceivable universe where it should do that. i'm much more interested in how it's running on shitty computers.
>>584653271this looks so impractical
>>584653129>raid buildanon...
>>584653397epic relics are boe thoughand there is going to be good stuff from dungeons toosome lvl45 blue from a proff aint going to be used at 60
>>584653397bis crafted gear being bop kinda sucks honestly, they could have done it like enchanting where if you put a trade window you can give someone mats and they can craft something for you
>>584648478>be dwarf>"oh a chest let's roll for it guys!">roll>lose>still have to open it and hand everything to the one who won just because I get better lootNah fuck off man
>>584653286People picked it to see the new craftable gear.Nobody will pick it on live servers since the later good recipes are locked behind a grind.
why does server strain increase exponentially with the number of people in close proximity i don't get it
>>584653129Why would I invite the worse blue caster into my raids instead of riptidemancer?
>>584653410>i'm much more interested in how it's running on shitty computers.I have RTX 3060 and I am running steady 60 fps everywhere with everything set to ultraI only ever drop in Stormwind to around 45 fps when too many people start spamming abilities at once
>>584653464>epic relics are boeIt doesn't matter what color the relic is. They all have unique effects. a random green relic could be BIS. Right now the blue relics from enchanting are BoP. So if one awkwardly ends up being your BIS you'll be forced into leveling enchanting.
>>584651861There are world first OG raiders who play on controller, chuddy.
>>584653521more data being sent between clients
>>584653351>they should add more cool RPG shit instead of appealing to parsetranny minmaxing FAGGOTS
>>584653521It increases polynomially, not exponentially.
>>584653464>some lvl45 blue from a proff aint going to be used at 60You mean the totem? I think an 8% mana regen will always be pretty great especially to keep in the bank even if you find a better one for raid or whatever. You're going to get situationally better items but thats just generically good one to have.The bis leather working gear is all going to be bop to encourage people to go lw. The crafted raid pieces are bop.
>>584653627is that a pun because it's based on the polygons?
haven't been lurking past few daysany fresh news/rumors on new classes?
>>584653627based definitionist
>>584653521>3 players near you>3 clients sending data to the server, server sending each client 2 clients data, 6 total client data packs sent>100 players near you>100 clients sending data to the server, server sending each client 99 clients data, 9900 client data packs sent
>>584653578I'm the anon with 5060ti and I play horde on the pvp server. UC is fine but Org and especially TB are completely fucked.
>>584653645the crafted bop epics are identical to the loot from raids so you wont need it eventually, it will only slightly speed up gearingyou should always pick the profession that offers something you cant get anywhere else
balance druid really is the new ele sham goddam
It's going to be funny because there will be 3 key paradigm shits that's going to happen with the 'meta'. People will have some opinion based on current available gear in classic (current "meta").Then we will find the gear we can get pre raid tiers and will bring the second shift in the meta.Then the raid is released and we get the post first raid tier meta.But none of it matters, because it will all be cleared within 1 day.
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