Epic to the Max Edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.Thread Themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq3QYTC_lJw>Previous Thread>>584632718
I like turtles
What can they do to fix Forever?
Ghost Wolf should be usable when you're dead.
pochie~
>>584677891is he still a retard or based these days?
>>584677942they fucked it up all by themselves. they just need to take what they did and undo it
>>584677942Add in all the QoL from retail. Which is coming ofc, Forever will follow the same twenty year trajectory as Retail did.
>>584677891is he confessing for his crimes or something?
>maining orc hunter>alt class would've been undead warlock>blizzard nerfed touch of the graveso should I stick with undead if I dont want to play orc again and I hate the troll race?
How many FPS are you guys getting?
>>584678040He's brown
>>584677942Add bitches with gigantic asses
>battle shout raid wide>totems raid wideso... for a 4man it's gonna be 1 of each class then all rogues, I see
>NO SHOES NO SHOES NO SHOES>ALLIANCE IS AMERICA, HORDE IS AFRICAMeanwhile, in reality,
>>584678080Addons already do this.
Reminder that all clothcucks are considered trannies because they wear dresses>ITS NOT A DRESS CHUD ITS A ROBE!!!!don't care clothcuck tranny
>>584677954>characters holding maces like swordsyou hate to see it
lol
>>584677821This shit is shaping up to be more and more of a disaster with each patch. Faggrend and his team have not the slightest goddamned clue what they're doing
>>584678113https://files.catbox.moe/invu8p.mp3
>was excited to play>friends were all excited to play>latest patch killed all hype
>>584678113Silky smooth 139 fps
>>584678124One of the good ones
The game would be better with no mounts.
>>584678202There were rare mobs in the starter zones that dropped common quality gear with stats equivalent to those you'd get from the vendors, that never made sense to me, rares should feel rewarding to kill. Also, that's a reddit screencap.
>>584678186He's got great triceps
>>584678182Addons give personal loot? flying? Lfr? etc?You may want to think a little harder there anon, the longer i mess around in this general the more Im convinced you guys just arnt pretending to be low IQ…
>don't mind me, just changing the racials AGAIN
>>584678202How's this a bad thing tho?
>>584678324Everybody gets flippers at 40 and just goes 60% faster
removing weapon spec is honestly really gay.
>everything that's even slightly powerful gets nerfed into bajesus>well except Hunters
>warn people about fatgrend >"Nooo!!! It has to be different it has it has it haaaas" high estrogen sissy melty Lmao.I warned you niggers. I did.
>>584678308>yeah I know he scams but he's one of the good ones trust me bro
>>584678202this is white genocide
>they remake wow from classic>just so this time they can add the game ruining retailslop and wokeshit in from the start, rather than years down the linesad
i havent read any patches so im still hyped.patch reading comes from the culture of min-maxing. min-maxing destroys any semblance of adventure.
>>584677942No bright colors, No stupid fucking eyes. And explain why shamans spells are neutered so hard compared to others when they only have 10% chance for Overload
>>584678369Just change them every month to drive min maxers insane. This would be a fair system
>>584678324Do what FFXI did, you have to loan mounts from the stables in that game and it costs an increasing amount of gold.
I was only making a Tauren for the 1% hit, guess I’ll be an elf now
>>584678515You homos are so cute holding onto hopes and dreams.Meanwhile in reality, retail players are very used to blizzards kneejerk patch reactions until they themselves get bored with balancing.
Faggrend should be publicly executed along with all the trannies blizzard employs
Disney is when something isnt super duper serious rape, war, pillage murder genocide and/or doesnt look super ugly.
the vibes are off
>>584677891crazy how tips looks swedish but is american and ziqo looks american but is swedish
It's out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjqMJjRdNl8
Probably a dumb question but is our UI settings getting rolled over onto live or will it all be reset too?
>>584678585I would kill for a XI remaster with just a graphic overhaul. Everything stays the same.
>>584678424https://youtube.com/watch?v=fvZuWMOLv50Is this what we can expect?
>>584678697go back to retail then faggot
>>584678703looks like a couch
>>584678369I would rather they be changed multiple times post-release to buck break min maxers.
>>584678381
>>584678478he's a sperg but not an absolute lolcow like esfand is with him legitimately being DSP of wow, he's lucky not many know about his pserver past where he got absolutely clowned on by everyone before he even became a streamer
The way every Enhancement Shaman is looking at those patch notes right now. Not only we didn't get any adjustments to make up for the loss of Elemental Fury, like Blizzard had promised to us, but they also nerfed the only Shaman spell that did actual damage without the need of 600+ spell power.Also, the only thing that made raid groups seek out Shamans was the need of totems in each of the main groups, but now raids can get away by only having a single Restoration Shaman on the entire raid, or at most two. The single thing that made the class special is now gone, so now almost every Shaman only exists to deal bad DPS and nothing else.
>played beta from start to finish>applied for a refund>got it instantly lol?
https://files.catbox.moe/ch9u64.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/7w9glm.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/cckzcr.png>>584678703built for human boys>>584678424and mages, who actually got buffed.
>>584678969shame on you for defrauding a small business t b h
>>584678828Wont need to. Eventually forever will get the disney treatment over time.
am i really going to play femtauren warrior in foreverdid propaganda win
>be ele>water shield granting mana on crits only>you have to recast water shield in the middle of your rotation, fucking yourself over with gcdanother week, another baffling decision
>>584678969Even Blizzard knows how badly they've fucked up
>>584678870>the fresh meat is hung up on racials that barely matter>meanwhile blizzard hits their spec with 50 lines of change every other patch
>>584678697So WoW has always been disney.
>race: undead>class: rogue>hair: mohawk>spec: combatyep it's time to chud out and gank some clothcucks
They should let us join the crusade in wow forever
>>584678825i can only assume this is with the level 40 bow
they say they want to avoid homogenization but then remove weapon specializationsthey say they want to create strong race identities with unique flavor but then just give races blanket 1-2% buffs with absolutely no thematic reasoningim told they simply took these racials from wow retailthese people are currently sitting down with a cup of coffee making other decisions for forever
>>584678657you think my hopes and dreams are the same as yours, but they are not. your hopes and dreams are reading the patch notes and hoping your meta adjustments that "would fix the game" comes true. it never happens btw because your happiness is a shifting goalpost; a product of western consumerism no doubt. i don't even look at patch notes. i simply play the game and have a good time with the game. my joy doesn't come from having my wishes vindicated.it's a shame you are too entrenched in your western consumer mindset so you wouldn't even be able to comprehend how i could enjoy myself. "but how can you, the patch notes say fun has decreased 1000%!", you think. pitiful.
>mages got buffedare people just illiterate?
>>584679043>>584678940let it go shambrosroll shadow or arcane and just free yourself of this tormenti know i did
>>584679043Don't worry about your rotations anon, chances are you're gonna be OOM a minute into the fight.
>>584679043they gave you lava burst though!!!!!
Guess I'll go 2h warrior since they ruined Shaman, again.
>>584678424>start off with quest rewards from ROL and whatnot that were good, not overpowered in any sense but a lot better than the hot garbage gear from regular old vanilla>couple of streamerfags cry that it's TOO OP FOR THE LEVEL or whatever stupid reason>everything gets nerfed, blues turned to mediocre greens>yet for whatever reason there's still dozens of gear that have worthless stats like strength/agility on cloth etc.Honestly fuck Blizzard and fuck streamer dipshits. This is going to be a dumpster fire.
>>584679000i'd say she's versatilehttps://files.catbox.moe/r4q193.mp4
are the giga doomerfags gone yet?
>>584679180weapon specializations are retarded. i agree with race identities needing unique flavor, but always being last pick for a wep because your race is wrong blows
The hope is gone...
>>584678940that updated elemental mastery really is the biggest piece of dogshit ive seen in a long time
i did it too bros, had over 4 days /played in beta too. i still have a sub but dgaf about blue elves and def dont care about cosmetics so may as well refund by this point, i'll play at launch probably but have no faith it'll be good in the long term. cest la vie
what do fem tauren buttholes look like can someone gen it ?
>>584679419liquid diarrhea
>>584679347>>yet for whatever reason there's still dozens of gear that have worthless stats like strength/agility on cloth etc.that wasn't the case at the start, redditors complained we need bad items too so blizzard changed it, otherwise it would be retail disney
>>584679420its even worse they won big and are now gloating
>>5846794361% crit is absolutely not worth loot council considerations like +5 weapon skill was.
>>584679516
I hate when this happens.
Imagine paying 60 fucking euros or usd for a betaif you didn't pay just to refund later you're a stupid fucking retard
>>584679593true. however, 1% crit is boring shit anyways
>>584679419sweet sweet nectar
>>584679419Can AI do proper scat yet? I love dirty anal, but every video always revolves around eating shit and that stuff makes me hurl.
Jesus fuck do I have to just turn off every form of chat to avoid seeing every dumbass spout memes or political debate shit?
>>584678940The totem change is baffling. It just guarantees that 99.99% of Shamans will never get to join a raid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1_r5KLAGIQIT'S UP!
Save us Classic Fresh. You are our only hope.
>>584679795no clue as i'm not into that, but any shit enthusiast can commission a lora or train one himself if he really wants to i guess and make such content
>>584679420Doomchads run this general.
>>584677942revert all the changes they did since start of beta
I've been saying for years. Like 10+ now. That min/maxers ruin EVERYTHING. Video games, hobbies, "investments".Everything is min/maxed to the nth degree, to the point there's no enjoyment in it anymore and people are staking their entire self worth on the small success.There's like MAYBE 5% of the playerbase where min/maxing actually is going to matter and most of those are parsers that are already stacking the deck. Joe Bob min/maxing and trying to parse in a pug just ain't going to happen. Enjoy the game.Original classic WoW never had NEAR this level of min/maxing. People just had fun. Social media, the interconnectivity of the internet and it's resources, streamers/influencers, everyone is just a hivemind of sheep.
>>584679873>all the hands are brown in the thumbnailholy fucking based
>>584679340arms will get big buffstrust
what race do i play to get this vibe
Why does Faggrend hate rogues so much?
>>584680102female human healer
>>584679626delicious
>>584680008You are a loser irl and in game we get it.
>>584679516https://e6ai.net/posts/67391?q=bovine+female+anus
>>584680008they're minmaxing the really tiny margins too, it's bizarre. like people i know debating on what race is the best to pick, when they would never brings consumes to raids and don't know what a parse is.
>Don't play Rogue>Will never be able to top the meters>Play any spec but Resto sham>Will never be let into raids>Want to have fun being a Skyborne>Have to play Horde to do soF-forever hype...
>>584680008>Bro just take it slow and smell the roses on your 30th WoW character
>>584679685yes but it was just enough to make finding a good mace as a dwarf a substantially better feeling than finding a good axe while not so much better that you would never consider another weapon typeit was pure flavor for dwarfsand they turbo fucked them instead
>>584680175that's a boy
>>584678098I'm making fem orc hunter and male orc warlock. Giving them same last surname and rp they are couple.
>>584680192someone who grey parses kills the same bosses and gets the same loot. the game is not hard.
>>584680323Or you could play with your wife.
>>584680008I think there's some "best" picks if it comes to pvp but literally other than that, it genuinely does not matter which race you pick
>>584680323same but human and they're brother and sister
All racials should not give damage and instead focus on out of combat or limited combat utility.Human: Reputation gain and 10% lower vendor prices.Dwarf: The new treasure chest thing is good.Night Elf: Can visit moonwells and other natural places of power for a small out of combat buff to MP/HP regen.Gnome: Crafts everything slightly faster. Orc: Beasts have a lower aggro radius. Undead: Has Hunter's play dead but on like a 5 minute CD.Troll: Can place cauldron that the troll and party members can get a Voodoo Brew from. This acts as a Healthstone and shares a cooldown with it. Tauren: Plainsrunning but it goes away immediately in combat.
>>584680319did i stutter?
>>584677935why would anyone lie on the internet?
>>584680323wholesome
>>584680556but he's making an aggressive gesture, surely that means a dps class, right?
>>584679795Interesting. I like scat but am not interested in anal at all.
find the bugs you lazy poc
>>584680394holy projection cuckman
>>584680523find treasure is fucking ass theres nothing but milk and bananasits literally noob bait
I wished they'd fixed up some of the questlines in ForeverLike have their be a clear divide between the Forsaken who want to survive and who want to take revenge on Arthas, and those who are loons turned crazy by being raised into Undeath who want to destroy the world with a new Plague/Blight. Have an actual choice for your character to choose between the two sides. Have Sylvanas order the Plague to be studied as a countermeasure to if it happens again with no intentions for it be used, but Varimathras hijacks the project.
>>584680760Is there actual datamined data showing this? Chests drop greens and blues in Forever.
Why did they have to fuck everything up ALREADY? We didn't even get to fucking launch yet, god damn.
>>584680680nope thats a slutty healsissy pose!
>>584680102Male Blood ElfSorry lil bro, you will have to return to retail
I'll probably play Era for now.The beta seems pointless. I'm excited for the release tho
>>584680873t-the streamer wanted it that way... no backbone and lack of clear vision
>>584680757i didn't attribute anything to you
>Protection Paladin main>Discipline Priest altjust as the Light intended
the most bizarre thing about wowtroons in 2026 is that they can just ai-gen the wow they want. just make your perfect server. if it's as good as you think it is, everyone will play it. you can even ai-gen players and npcs. why wish some faggot filled woke company will cater to your personal whims? what a strange way to live your life.
this is why you have a real closed beta and not random knuckledragger off the street who can scrounge up enough cashthey probably cut down hard on playtesters though to boost that profit line
>patch notes: arrows now appear on bows!they sure do
>>584678703never quite got the fixation with whitemane
>skyborne are canon okay??!!!!>how?>well they just are okay????!!!
>>584680914skyborne exist to attract the blood elf playerbase who can't play wow without the blood elf model/aesthetic
>>584679420yes. only consoomers without standards that'll happily pay for and play retail minus and buy the pig. just like you wanted.
>>584680295NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD
>>584681234who are these people??blood elves look just terrible and borderline out of place in the game
>>584681194there's literally a good lore behind them though, you're just retarded
>>584678154my coal black gnome with pink mad scientist hair is my true xelf, and when he tbags you in stv it is a form of deep respect on my part
>>584681194>we don't want to add retail races. we want to build on the foundation of vanilla okay?>where were skyborne in vanilla?>um stop asking questions chud okay?!?!?!
>>584681125>retail team consumed all the token allowance for the week so we can't add textures now
>Fanart of female tauren either makes them look like cutie patooties or living goddesses>Meanwhile, in-game:I want to become a bovine enthusiast, but they're not making it easy.
>>584681068You can't AI-gen a physical megaserver you idiot. Or maybe you happened to have 1000 mental flop SSDs and 5000gb or ram lying around?
>>584681326HD models for Skelves arrive early 2027 check the blue post
>>584681125Will they also add new bow and gun models?
>>584681194If theyre in the game theyre canon
>>584680873Troon and foid developers saw the interest in the game and demanded to be made part of the team
Erm, I mean SD models*
>>584681409I think they look fine, but the issue is their running animations look like clunky shit ass.
do I go lock or priest or mage? I mained mage since 2005 (I was in highschool and I'm in my mid 30s now, fuck). I do love blink but lock has always seemed powerful. And as far as priest goes, maybe it's time to heal? I'm not sure how good or bad shadow priest is though. I'm leaning to lock at the moment
>>584681194skyborne fucking suck no matter how hard people try to damage control
>>584681409Yeah, the neutral face of femtauren is absolute ass.
>Prot pallies are the squishiest tank with no way to get uncrush and the lowest threat>Rather than fix it they minor nerfed reckoning because streamers were crying they couldnt make reckbomb videos since it was now a tanking toolLegit funny how fucked pallies are
>>584681194Forever will become the actual canon lil broRetail is a doomed timeline, that will get deleted in-universe in The Last Titan
>>584681194Seethe...forever.
>>584681485>need months after release of the actual game to recolor the tbc blood elf model bluesmall indie development studio
>>584681671Made for human breeding
What can they do to fix wow forever?
>>584681998delay for 2 yearsstart from scratch but this time hire a dev team that has a vision
>>584681998Dating minigame.
>>584679492did the exact same thing but with the $80 after playing some WC3 for nostalgia
>>584681998Let it cook for 1 year
>>584681827>Seethe...forever.A spiritual successor to picrel.
I've had enough of sitting in the cuck chair, I'll roll either a hunter or a mage and be one of the golden boys who don't know what a nerf is and get to have fun.
>>584681998Dungeon Finder + Personal Loot
>>584681826Im worried they're actually setting up retail to be a failed timeline and then just tell everyone that that version of WoW is finished and to move to Forever
fuuuaaakkk>>584672527
>>584681331You're retarded since you'd happily accept anything else if lore got retroactively added to them to try and fit in despite them not. Even if something retarded like skinny ogres that knew how to speak in perfect common wearing tuxedos would having you clapping and saying that they fit the game if they had a bunch of "lore" to them
>Champion of the light nerfed by 50% Were their own official shockadin sims still too high? I can't believe they originally rolled it out at 100% value. Also when will they make Light's Vigil good?
>>584682162they both just got nerfed though?
>>584682205all of these words just to out yourself as a retard
>>584681331the good lore:>
>>584682153This is based 4chan culture though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MC0G-Lbuuk
>>584682153
>>584682153I genuinely wonder where this person is today and if they look back on the state of retail, thinking maybe they helped contribute to it's downfall like this.
race changes are actually kino for ally rogue, you can make a legitimate case for every racegnome still wins imo eureka burst is too good
>>584678369>NOOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU MAKING CHANGES IN A BETA
Is pala prot viable? I don"t care about meta bullshit but I still want to tank raids
>>5846823572% crit from human seems too good to pass on really for me
>>584682323>leftist discourse.jpg
>>584682327It's overForever is finished
>>584682327z0mg0rz, iz th@ a ch1k3n m0unt>
>>584678729that's crazy cause they both look like sandnigger scammers to me
it's ready to ship
>>584682357Is eureka useful for every class? How about warrior
>>584682349https://x.com/NoxychuThis is the artist.
>>584682327It'll be hilarious seeing all the paypiggies be stuck on 40% mount speed.
>>584682438I understand why you think it's bad though, because Totalasscancer told you it was bad back in the day.
>>584682572
>>584682576you can stop posting the fat hogs anytime now anonyou shat the previous bread enough
>>584682576>that imagego on a diet fatty
>>584682327PLEASE BE ON THE STORE PLEASE BE ON THE STORE
>>584682576Oh ye of little foresight…That chicken mount you see before you will eventually be a dragon riding mount!
WoW Temporary
>>584682572WOULD
Who here doing the RP walk only challenge on release?
>>584682327>>584682901is this in forever?
>>584682901sovl honestly
>>584682871How fat do you need to be to look this fat with a myspace angle?
>>584682078sauce right now
>>584678212Aggrend is a fat retarded fuck who just wants to live out some vanilla ret power fantasy, I tried to warn you. This all already played out thoroughly is SoD
>>584682750>>584682763low test.
>>584682649Aha, so the sparklepony was a good thing now.
>>584682901>>584682327Why does every non-raid/rep mount have to have "that" look to it? It's like a specific group of artists on WoW are stuck in the 2012 Disney aesthetic.
>>584681808>Make spell power tank that only gets threat from magic damage>Give it no way to get enough sp to scale compared to melee which gets double benefits (if minor) from agi (Dodge+crit)/str(block amount+AP)>Doesn't even make turdness baseline like for warrior>Literally only 2 buttons to do snap threat and one of them is also your taunt and both have a 8s cd (10s if not talented)>Remove his one gimmicky thing instead of buffing dungeons so you can't pull 3 packs (you already couldn't without kiting anyways)No! Refunds! Play ret with epic seal twist nigger.
>>584683015noname.
>>584683065at least post a race that is meant to be fat
>>584681770giwtwm
>>584682214People went shockadin (not approved) instead of twist (approved). And also prot was taking it too!!It had to go.
>>584683074Makes redditors seethe.
https://files.catbox.moe/soj073.png
It should be permitted by ToS in game if someone starts gloating after winning something, you should be entitled to call them a faggot or nigger in chat as many times as you desire for the next 24 hours. It's BM and players should be allowed to BM back.
>>584683065post wrist you fucking twig
>>584682871AGP smirk on foid furry artist lmaoooo
>>584683308Does anybody actually like the twist talent? Not even Ret paladin's biggest shooter (Esfand) seems to be a fan of the implementation of it.
>>584683313>ruining the game was heckin epic because it made the people i think about 24/7 madCompelling.
>>584683148Im actually all for killing being the "aoe tank" because blizzard just punishes the shit out of you for having that gimmick.Except they are still being punished regardless at this point lol.Also 4 charge holy shield, in fact holy shield as the capstone. Or the 10% dogshit scaling of the new prot seal making it worthless until they nerfed SoR into the ground, which didnt make fury better, just made the alternate so bad you will just use it now.Literally what the fuck were they thinking with the spec?Fun fact it was also tied with shadow priest as the least amount of talents in a tree. 16 vs the average spec having 17-18 with tons having 19.
>>584683438I hate WoW players too, don't get it twisted. They're all fat autistic losers.
>>584682901How much is the level 20 mount? $50?
>>584678424Hunters are balanced because they cant do shit in close range
how does group finder work exactly? I search for certain dungeon and there are 20 people, I refresh 5 seconds later and there are 5, then after a few mins there are 20~ players again. Is there some kind of limited area of search or is it the same for the whole server?
What will you feast on while grinding on launch?
>>584683437No it's fucking terrible and it doubles down on the worst part of classic/gameplay aka swing timer watching.Twist was accepted because it was "free".You know what would be better than twist?? 2 more fucking buttons.Just one more to go! And an actual fucking taunt for tank, if possible.
>>584683065built for knots
>>584682985no, only on Chinese servers
>>584683065keep posting king. Human bros appreciate it
>>584683592hopefully your bussy
>>584683308>And also prot was taking it too!!Mostly because prot talents are so dogshit you might as well go ret.Same reason prot pallies were using righteousness rather than fury.Rather than fix prot ret just keeps eating nerfs because of it.>>584683437>Normal people hate twisting so hate it>Twisters hate it makes twisting easy so they hate it>High IQ people like me hate they took away something you could do and gave it back as your talent capstoneNo, everyone hates it.
>>584682153it's amazing how everything is unfolding the exact same way>people are excited for game>womanbrains and cynical marketers shit it up with store garbage and cutesy uguu trash>"UHM IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LIKE SEETHE AND STAY MAD YOU BITTER CHUD WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ENJOYING THIS AMAZING NEW STUFF JUST FUCK OFF"and now we have retail. and forever is going to go the same route for the same reasons
Skyelves look like this?!!
>>584683472No you see, you are supposed to use a fast spell caster weapon! Like a dagger.Which you cant use because paladin. Also if you use a fast 1h weapon, your holy strike will do zero (0) damage.Anyways here do 10% more damage with your zero str white hits.Prot suffers from not being ret.
>>584682192I mean, where else to go by this point? The retail lore is ruined, too many beloved characters are now death or wrecked by writers, and the stakes have been raised so high that there's little connection to the original Warcraft conflicts and it's just generic cosmic threats.
>>584683728yeah, forever will be retail in no more than 2 years. This is obivous
Cant believe i was excited for this shit
>>584683848far as I can see, it has a head start, even. some of these features and additions that fucked retail over are in forever in the beta, even before day 1.
>>584683728>store garbage and cutesy uguu trashNot in my world of warcraft!
why cant they just give warlocks a portal option >inb4 retail did itexplain why that solution was bad without sounding mad or irrational
>can be reborn at 60>level up again to gain passive mastery aura of your class>gives all raid members of your class a small buff>only active in raids and battlegrounds>reborn again for race mastery aura
With the way how dugeon xp currently works. Why would any warrior go through the effort of getting tanking gear only to use it once per dungeon?
>>584681409I would be happy if they gave wider hips and thicker thighs. Like their legs & glutes should be built from running
>>584681409left is adorable
>>584682871Isn't that the dude from Linus Tech Tips
>>584682327literally copying a chocobo, creatively bankrupt company
next series of patches>spell ranks removed>oh shit, healers needed to downrank, now they OOM too fast>uh... uh... we reduced the mana cost on all heals by 50%>oh shit that doesn't work uhhh
>>584683970warriors will lvl as prot, you can pull 10 mobs without any issues
>>584683974Boob straps are nice
>>584683970Because there's no such thing as 'tanking' gear or a tank spec until you're getting up to 50+. No getting two pieces with def one them doesn't do anything.
What's so bad about the recent patch? the racial changes don't seem so bad, The weapon skill racials were annoying
>>584683365God, I wish that were me
i jerked off to cuck porn again and now im in a shame spiral and will take it out on this thread by rabidly attacking anyone who disagrees with me for any reason
Draenei for alliance and Eredar exiles for Horde.
frost blast is completely fucking broken and has totally destroyed the game balance
>literally copying a chocobo, creatively bankrupt company
>>584683970>tanking gearSo a shield and 1h weapon? I'm sure that's not a big burden
>>584683949>these two? literally the same thing, by the way. completely functionally identicalsasuga marketer kun
>>584683953Not gonna do the Druid bullshit quests a 3rd time anon, fuck that.
>>584684220hows it different to frost bolt
>>584683592loverachelle2 yum
>>584683848>2 yearsI'll give them 4 months
>>584684220sorry, we'll nerf mages again by actually buffing them yet againclaude, generate some stealth mage buffs
>>584683692Literally just>Holy shield to 21>Hammer of the righteous as capstone>Remove turdness>Add BASE armor into sp/hp or similar (2/4% or so) at the second to last row There.
>>584684250One drop rule. We told you about WoW, we told you that Everquest 2 would be better, but you didn't listen and now you are paying the price.
>>584684275do not ever EVER respond to my post with such a retarded nigger opinion again
>>584683692>>584683604The real question is what can they put in place of having to "buy" back twisting? Like Ret's fantasy is to hit hard I guess but how do you express that in a vanilla environment without resorting to filling up some gauge or meter?
>>584683592>>584684304Holy based. Good taste bros
>interested in learning more about the Undead Paladin stuff>watch the new Warcraft 3 Forsaken campaign>it's kino>realize that dw*rven shamans got literally nothing, barely even addressed in gameDamn.. And they say there's no faction biases.
>>584682901Show the spectral wolf I'm sure it will be a best seller on Alliance
>>584683848it's already got achievements, transmogs, retail models, cute woman garbage, shop-ready slopall it's missing is flying mounts and the wow token, and I expect at least the second of those two to be in the game within the first half a year of forever going live.
>>584684375sorrrrrrry jesus, i dont play mages sounds like the same move lol
>>584683953Are there enough quests to level up twice without quests being reset?
>>584682327what's the source of this being added?
>>584684152For just the racials?The racial buffs were good and brought the bad ones up, dwarves still fucking suck and humans got comically overbuffed but still.The issue is in the same patch they brought the bad ones up they giga nerfed the okay ones like undead into now being worse than old dwarf.Theres also the retardation that 2% crit damage is in no way close to 2% crit or the actives now all being wildly varied in power level from before them being somewhat close.
>>584683612what makes you say that?
>didn't let the schizoid take over the bakes while NA was sleepingexcellent work EU bros
>>584684409They got Warcraft 3 players to make the Forsaken Kingdom, they got WoW players to make Forever, that's why one is amazing and one is shit.
>>584684409>comparing Undead Paladins to dw*rf shamansCome on now
>>584684409desu, dwarf shamans should've been a thing since vanilla.
>>584684452@Stiven_SRB
>>584684392Capstone is avenging fury. There you go bro.Remove twisting entirely.
>>584684520I'd bake more often but I don't have that many wow related pics
>>584684409>We need a name for our character inspired by Beric Dondarrion>How about Garek Banderion?
>>584684520I'm not a faggot european, I'm a chad based neetcel.
>>584684309Still doesnt fix you being able to not crush cap or zero ranged pull. Or the dogshit judge taunt.But yes it would at least be acceptable and people would probably stop malding at how shit the talents were.Honestly warriors prot talents are pretty fucking bad too, just from a base level warriors are better so it affects them less.A lot of this could have been avoided by dumping block value into block rating so the block based tanks arent getting punished with a worthless stat.
>>584684409Dwarves get shafted as usual.I'd fucking love a war of the 3 hammers expansion as an actual RTS instead of the rexxar campaign but more of a flex.
>>584684409The only dwarf in wc3 is magni bronzebeard. You really think they'd create an entire dwarf campaign for Forever?
so do resto shamans/druids just afk in between healing since doing damage would waste mana? while priests can wand.
>>584682192>Thrall sacrifices himself at the end of the Worldsoul Saga>He opens a rift into the Forever(tm) timeline>Retail keeps operating for those who wanna play it, but no more major content updates and the lore implies we lost and must go back in time to do things right
>>584684701Druids can melee to proc omen.
>>584684701they can't melee with their powerful melee enchants?
human GODS
>>584684740so it goes from retail to retail 2?
threadly shill postJoin <FUN HAVERS> at launchALLIANCE NA **PVE**>literal who gm (no cliques or power trips)>only rule is you must have fun or else>will raid with fucking whatever / whenever>ill be running morning weekend raidsEPIC TREASURE RACIAL EDITIONif you want a dead discord until nov 4thhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w
>>584684167Cuckcoldry is based though
>>584683672hopefully you’re bussy
>>584684409Dwarven Shaman have had lore since vanilla. It was just dumb that the player clans couldnt be them for balance sake.
>>584682985yes
>>584684630Wait till you find out what inspired Prince Arthas' name and character arc.
>>584684701Pretty much.Also casting interups the mp5 so staying out of casting is a good way to keep mana up
>>584684701I thought wrath was made to basically cost 0 mana?
>orc racials get nerfed>doomposting and blacked cuckporn spam increase tenfoldnooticing
worst new races for forever? i was thinking vulpera and mechagnomes
>>584684809Play on RP with me instead
>>584684685Prot at least gets saved by rage being cucked so it feels nicer to get rage on avoiding hits and revenge hitting hard.Mind you, they'll gut them in 2 weeks when someone dies to a tank warrior in pvp.And we'll be back to bear being the meta and only viable tank again until a boss randomly crushes players.I should've said to add holy shock as baseline or 15 talents into holy desu. Also a real fucking taunt Jesus Christ troondle and v+ tried the dumb judge as taunt and it doesn't fucking work because that's not how fucking taunting works FUCK.
>>584684409horde bias has existed since wc3 with metzen retconning the entire orc historythe only reason alliance was more popular and the best faction on release was because of LOTR races and paladins
>>584684409desu neither should exist as is. They should be the same class but with unique spell effects/names/icons. UD Pally should be a Death Knight and Dwarf Shaman should be a Wildhammer Windrider or some shit. That would take like a month of work though, so can't expect Blizzard to do that.
>>584684885why'd they get rid of our pet damage racial though?
>>584684885orc caster stay winning with 1% crit
>>584684561What if they just made their capstone talent the ability to have two seals at once and judging only consumes the most recently applied seal? That'd resolve the twisting shit while still allowing rets to benefit from two seals.
Ngl bros I'm trying gamepad controls out right now and they feel good lmao
>>584684685They need to make block work like in cata, otherwise block is either broken (fully blocking hits) or worthless (blocking... 30 damage off a 1000 damage hit SHEEESH!!!).
>>584684959NahUndead Paladins are kino
>>584684885IDGAF since arms weapon mastery talent got made into something good.
>>584683592Crab legs
The true litmus test to see if Forever is retail or not: did they add a billion references to Monty Python and the Holy Grail? If so, it's classic chud kino, if not, it's retail woke slop.
Do people honestly base their choice of character over a 1% crit bonus
So what's the new racial tier list with the changes min/max bros?
Daily reminder that physiognomey is real and anyone who trusted someone who looks like fAggrend is either mentally deficient, young, or has been critically mislead from their family/teachers/local clergy from a young age.
>>584684885is it doomposting or just realismposting atp?
was taurens 1% to hit too op ?
>>584684950And because Alliance has actual cities and villages while horde has outposts that consists of one hut and a watchtower>>584685304That 1% can easily be the difference between purple and orange parse.
WHAT THE FUCK did they do with the social aggro in Forever? Whenever someone dies or flee why the hell are mobs aggroing you just for being nearby, even if you did nothing? Doing the elite quests in Redridge is absolute chaos, it was the same in Elwynn kobold mines. Is this an intentional change or bug?
>>584685316He looks like the average WoW player over 18.
maybe it's time we admit another fresh would've been better
>>584685316ass mad orcnigger
Doesnt that weird neon hair sóyboy work for blizzard?
>>584685316i always knew he was evil from the fatness and the tattoos
>>584684740the infinite dragonflight did nothing wrong
>>584685441Isn't that celestalon
BEAR FORM GAINS THE STRENGTH TO TANK 5 (FIVE) GORILLAS
>>584685383It's not just aggro'ing the ones it runs near?
>>584685397Why? Nobody would play it because they already beat it and killed Kel'thuzad the first time around.
hordecucks go full meltdown the second their racial ability training wheels are taken down a peg after 20 years of OP bullshitget fucked faggots
>>584685517BARE DURID IS STRONK
Good news everyone!In this patch they have seemingly bugged out the camping system where it's now only possible to get the benefits of only one (1) camping item max
>>584685268>quality means devs who make stale 60 year old references to something our dads found funnyanon I'm sorry about your dad's passing but this ain't it>>584685396And I wouldn't trust the average WoW player over 18 to be the lead dev for the Classic+ soft reboot. See my point, faggot?
>>584685538you wouldn't get it
>>584685519no if someone is fighting mobs and they run away they turn around and attack you instead of resetting back normally, even if you were just standing there or drinking or whatever
>>584684907i cant do it friend im not rp enough
>>584685028I feel that would be OP but also, who cares it's fucking retardin.
>genuine Alliance and Horde enjoyer>have to pick just one because for some retarded reason can't play cross faction on a megaserver with 100,000 layersWhat're the odds Blizzard reverses this? Why the fuck would I pay $15 a month to experience only half the content.
>>584685371I need to rest my face in that carpet.
>>584685371The architecture in WoW is designed to look like the bases from Warcraft 3, humans build a couple big, heavily fortified bases while orcs build a lot of sparse bases and outposts.
>>584685565Tbqh I'm seeing far more allycuck gloating than horde players whining about the nerfs
I feel kind of relieved that i dont have to play for the next 3 weeksIs that a sign that I should quit?
Do you work nights? Are you a morning person?<Daybreak Company> is casual raiding guild that will be formed on launch day. We are currently recruiting for a core 20m raid group that will be ready to raid once raids open in December.>NA-RP / Alliance>Raid times will be 530-830am CST Saturday (20m) and Sunday (10m)>SR loot, no loot council/DKP corruption>Meta builds, consumables, world buffs not required>New guild, blank slate>Tabard will be created day 1I'm not very active in the beta but I'll post this intermittently up to launch day.https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X
>go horde>little to no trannies because they don't want to look like an abomination because it hits too close to homeIt's so nice to be a hordechad
>>584678515Based and chill pilled.
>>584685397>release fresh>allow GDP>add in wow tokenwould capture the cryboom audience for at least 3 years until ulduar drops and the game becomes too hard for them, no idea why blizzard doesn't do it
>he plays horde rogue>he plays alliance warlock
>>584685316>physiognomey>physio gnomey
>>584685397So it can die before bwl again? We have already seen this song and dance.
>>584685621Monty Python references are soulful, oldschool internet classics, if you hate Monty Python, you hate white people.
>>584685798perception has never been good thoughbiet
>>584685724>he doesn't knowed
doomers in shambles because they can't do anything to stop the hype
>horde gets a pair of run down huts while alliance gets a proper village.
>>584681331>good lore>literal blorc tier lorelol, lmao
>>584685873>if you hate Monty Python, you hate the British.ftfy. Our masters get respect when they properly safeguard our society from evil, not when they allow all this shit to happen.
>>584685932Dont tell him, we need the horde to be the containment faction
>>584685675Fuck you faggotIf you want everyone to hold hands and sing kumbaya go to retail
https://files.catbox.moe/coopdd.pngcanon in forlo>>584685798>playing horde
>>584685724someone post the photoyou know, that one
>wowg is now nothing but furriesDamn
>>584685724sis...
god i wish female humans were real
>they keep nerfing my class>it looks like shit nowWell I guess I'm just going warrior again.
>>584685657It could be because you're still in the mobs leash range when they turn around and stop following another player
>Bring back weapon racials>Buff them to add proficiency for the related weapon ie Dwarves can use Maces no matter the class>As content is added include gear with non-standard stat distribution so Human Priests can actually enjoy stabbing everything with a swordIt's that easy.
>>584686067my dick is unironically that small
How do you find a good guild—one where you can easily integrate into the group, without it turning into a second job? Based on my own experiences from the original *Classic* and the *Anniversary* release:>You join a "semi-hardcore" guild.<"We raid in a relaxed but competent atmosphere—just having fun!">Things go smoothly while leveling; you run dungeons with the same group of people.>Once you hit max level, it turns out most of those people don't actually end up raiding.>Meanwhile, a tight-knit clique of 5–10 guild members has been grinding for Best-in-Slot (BiS) gear from morning till night for a week or two.>You only get invited to raids when they happen to need a healer or a tank.>Raids begin, and the clears go well.>The raid leader ends up being a 40-year-old IT guy from that clique—someone with a DINK (dual-income, no kids) lifestyle who spends every waking hour playing and min-maxing to the extreme.>That raid leader gradually becomes the Guild Master—at least unofficially.>The raids start being run in a "hardcore" fashion, while everyone keeps pretending it’s still "semi-hardcore.">Raids become purely about performance; every possible lockout is cleared, including those on alts.>The last of the chill, pleasant people drop out.>All that’s left is the clique, plus a roster filled with new, hardcore min-maxers.>Eventually, you lose your own motivation, and other games start to seem more interesting.It’s funny—I’ve seen this play out almost exactly the same way twice now. The first time, it was a Nordic guild; the second time, a Finnish one. Does the player base consist solely of these sweaty try-hards these days? Would a casual guild even make sense, or why the hell would anyone want to deal with the same old grind? I’m not really keen on raiding with a group that can’t be bothered to learn even the basics, but I’m also not interested in that hardcore-level circle-jerking.
all the chads have refunded wow FECESever and if shitzzard fixes the mess (doodoo) they created we'll just pay $15 and play again LMAO
>>584684701>druidsDo this (pic), spam R7 wrath (probably doesn't have reduced proc chance for ooc), 38 mana per cast talented. Wrath has a ~5% chance to proc omen, so you spend 760 mana on wraths to proc it. On the other hand, half of your wraths that hit the target will restore 59 mana from wisdom. On a boss with no hit gear, you'll regen ~513 mana with those wraths, so the net mana used on wraths is 247 mana. Then you use your ooc proc on wild growth (1050 mana) or regrowth (525 mana).
>>584686027Forsaken are interesting because they're not a race in Warcraft 3 and it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to have the scourge buildings everywhere, so for WoW they made them use a mix of repurposed human and scourge bases.
>>584685876stoneform, noob
>>584686247Better yet>remove all passive attack racials
>>584686051I want to play both factions on PvP, and you think that means I don't want to PvP? You're either retarded, or brown. Probably both.
>no rp-pvp>megaservers so pvp is DOA>dungeon XP means there's 0 reason to do dungeon outside or 60Looking grim
can this faggot go into a diabetic coma already?
>>584685713Bro the stress test?
Forever doesn't have enough radical changes, it's too similar to classic.
>>584686410What a heccin wholesome chungus image, can I save it?
>>584686412Can we keep him in the OSRS community? I like him thereHis WoWslop videos kind of suck
>>584686109worgen led to this path
>>584686350Stoneform is soooo good that no one plays dwarf.
>>584686468retard
>>584686412he's probably right
>nerf mages>now they can just nuke down 2k hp in literally 1 second with arcaneremove the class from the game, they're about as braindead as release DKs
>>584686468you are brown
>>584686167Why do they ruin everything bros....
It's funny watching all the PvE fags stress over min-maxing racials. The percentage difference doesn't matter for 99% of players. You're never getting a 99 or 100 parse unless you're in a top 50 guild, and even then they usually have to dedicate the run to getting you that parse by sandbagging and crit fishing.Keep in mind that a lot of these guilds have been playing together since nostalrius, so good luck getting a raid spot with them in the first place. Just enjoy the game and leave the pointless min-maxing to the severe autists.
waiting for the xaryu shill video "THEY ARE LISTENING -> ALL RACIALS BUFFFS -> RACE IDENTITY IS BACK AGAIN"
>>584686589whoever is in charge of make balancing should just be firedblanket nerf all of their abilities by 75%, remove ice lance and that new frost spell
>>584686537Nah, tauren did. They should not have been a playable race, they don't feel good to play because they're weaker than they are in Warcraft 3.
>>584685876it's because humans have a stun removal racial and perception. Dwarves have stoneform and physical damage reduction, night elves have higher base stealth levels. gnomes have slow removal/immunity
>>584686312You forgot about the guild leader's e-girlfriend who comes to raid, doesn't know how to play, but gets all the best loot because the guild leader thinks it will get him a blow job.
>fell for the "bro roll on the RP server, there's no politics or streamers it's gonna be great!!" meme>AH is constantly empty>can't find any groups>takes 20 minutes to do ANYTHING because the three players online are mentally ill and must emote every action and act out entire scripts first>people (grown men) keep trying to ERP with meWhy'd I do it? Why couldn't I just play on regular PvE like everyone else... ?t. posting from December
vanilla devs never listened to the fucking players and they made gold. Sad thing is type of dev is almost extinct in the Blizzard of today. Forever was always gonna be a doomed project they just cant help themselves
>>584680295Maybe don't make a 30th WoW character?
>>584679778those hands should be green
>go to /wowfg/>TRANNY TRANNY TROON TRANNY TROON FURRY GORE GORE TRANNY TROON FURRY TRANNY>go to leddit>BOTS BOTS BOTS OMG BOTS IMBA IMBA BOT STREAMER BOT IMBA>interspersed with the occasional>wehhhh someone called me a faggot in a video game, i read the word and my pussy cracked in half and my husband started crying and I got fired from my 3 jobs and my 8 kids are starving>100 comments assuring OP that she is a precious kween and that anyone who says the dreaded faggot word will surely be banned instantly>go to Azeroth>log in>based non-brownoid non-bot guildmates call me a faggot for being away so long, ask me what I've been up to>the sovlfog envelops me as I look through my questlog and decide what to do next>decide I should level fishing for some ready-made food recipes before I make the expedition to the Riverlands>the sovlfog envelops me as I begin fishing near the shore>nary a tranny, troon, bot, or streamer in sightExplain this.
>>584686027Stormwind gets destroyed, 10 million gold repair project and hundreds of thousands are homeless in the 10 years it takes to repair itOrgrimmar gets destroyed, Thrall gives Gazlowe 20 gold and it's fixed by the end of the week
>>584686686I only have experience of woman healers like Tree from EU firemaw servers. Good in their role, but wont fucking shut up in voice or chat. EVER
>>584686698You have to wonder where these people come from. Was there a private server that "revived" "le heccin epic and wholesome" "cut content"?
>>584686652Honestly I've never thought about weapon racials ever when making a class, even when picking a class that could theoretically benefit from it. Obviously in an idealized scenario I would have that weapon type to maximize my damage potential but that's not happening 99% of the time, and it certainly isn't happening while leveling.
>>584686738why?
>>584686167Oh my godDoes this mean I have to roll ally now
>>584686698your average german and french on eu
>>584686652You're deluding yourself if you don't think that, even if just on a subconscious level, nobody is going to judge people on certain class/race combos.I have opted to not invite people to groups because they're playing a retarded combo, I know others have done this, you've probably even done it.
>>584686698what's the issue?he's wanting a full clear obviously
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>584686496There was a better one than this he should have posted that one instead
>>584686761there's a quite simple explanation, you see, you are brown
>>584677891I've never seen this guy before but he clearly didn't know or care about anything in forever. Quite sad they got him on
>>584686914used to run this general*
>>584686914Imagine being a streamer shill cuck
>>584686835the only thing I have ever thought about while making a character is their active, that's it
>>584686905>join party>he's a level 32 paladin dps
>>584680295Yeah why not? There's still shit in vanilla that a lot of people miss, like the quest to get a bag at Razor Hill or the quest where you duel a rogue NPC outside Deathknell.
>>584686412>literal whoBut RMT niggers should be hanged, so he is probably right to expose it.
>>584686901Most people do not fucking care in the slightest.
>>584686192tits too big
>pathetic devs already backtracking on the horizontal progression promisehttps://www.pcgamer.com/games/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-forever-devs-say-gear-upgrades-will-stay-relevant-for-a-long-long-time-its-very-much-our-intention-to-try-wherever-we-can-to-not-invalidate-old-content/
>>584686712>she doesnt want to ERP with agp sissies & literal trans womenmissing out
>>584686914Alex retired from WoW and content creation yesterday. Now he runs the french fry station at McDonald's.
>>584686905If youre able to clear cath you have no reason to be in GY or even library
we have 3 weeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1orfGbPZRQSay something nice about the guy who nerfd paladin into the ground
Human Female Warrior. That's the stuff desu.
>enemies turn red when hit by swipe... but why
>>584686698
>>584687093France still has buildings left standing?
>>584687093he strikes me as a retarded crypo shill
>>584687027the absolute amount of undead paladins who refuse to tank / heal in the beta is fucking godawfulworst part is doing a bg with them where they just run at alliance hunters and die without even using their healing abilities, it took me 7 tries to win the new bg as horde and I entirely blame these faggots for it
>>584687060Clarification isn't backtracking and horizontal progression has never been properly explained by anyone in the entire history of it being a term.
>>584687060>homogenize class racials>backtrackingyep we're getting retail 2.0 in about 2-4 months after release
>>584683365that hand should be green
>>584687089Is this true? NTA but while this sounds nice I wouldn't even know what to talk / do to them
>>584687143OmgHuman females look like THAT??
>>584686332>half of your wraths that hit the target will restore 59 mana from wisdomI was talking more for dungeons. not always going to have a pally using wisdom seal. You're also not factoring in losing the 50% mana regen from not casting.
>>584686652How is this any different for pvp? Just because the pvp gear system rewards just playing a lot and not being good it doesn't mean racials matter in pvp>but bro what if a I get ganked by a rogue!!??You're not important, no one is camping you.
>>584687194Horizontal progression is one of those self-explaining terms like Immersive Sim.
>>584687096>>584687027>>584686905>>584686698>shift-click the retard's name>level 32>oh, he's probably going to gy and/or libraryThe paladin is retarded, but y'all are double retarded for not being able to figure out what a retard is talking about.
>>584687130no, we have 2 internal beta patches to deliver us from this bullshittery
>>584687185Which is funny because the Paladin in WC3 is a healer and the Forsaken Paladin in WC3 is a healer too.
>>584687194horizontal progression is when an update introduces a new mechanic to gain power on the new content introduced in the update.
>horizontal progression means you will never get gear that is better than the gear you just gotI feel like I'm being psyoped.
>>584684959Sylvanas getting a bunch of wc3 era DKs makes far less sense than some undead getting their groove back. Those dudes weren't mass produced victims until Acherus, they were commanders and nobility that could threaten her position.
>>584687145>picreminds me of better times
>>584687415So it's like retail's content islands where all of your previous progress doesn't matter?
>>584687230They’re all “lesbians” bro, your human male paladin isn’t getting SHIT!
>>584687459no, you're simply mistaken.
>>584686698Did he stutter?
>>584687538Am I?
>>584687459>horizontal progression means you will never get gear that is better than the gear you just gotStatements Dreamed Up By The Utterly Deranged
>>584686027The new zone is even worse, Alliance gets a giant fortress town while Horde gets like 4 buildings that look ass
>>584687512why is every blizzard employee the most petty human being imaginable
>>584687626>mud hut faction gets mud huts>castle faction gets a castle
>>584687512lol, fucking gm tranny
>>584687089That sounds awful
>>584687626>giant medieval fortressSoulless>makeshift wooden wall and watchtowersSOVL
>LoH>auras>blessings>salv>divine interventionso why would you take warrior tank again?
>>584687794this but unironically
>>584687626What a beauty, zug zug my brothers!
>>584687626That's in Southern Eastern Kingdoms, the region called Azeroth, where the Horde have a very tenuous position and have to deal with the Dark Horde in Blackrock Mountain. That they have a base at all is surprising.
>>584687626>choose to live in mudhuts>complain about living in mudhutsThis game is eerily similar to real life at times.
>>584686247>roll a class that can use swords>your racial is now uselessThey should just get rid of all the pvp/pve racials and replace them with something like the tauren herb racial
anyone else stoked for wrath anniversary?
>>584687512>whats this!?>you're not feigning subservience?>acting like a sovereign individual who fully accepts the consequences of his actions?>well just for that, MORE PUNISHMENTAllowing browns and women into white male society was a mistake.
>>584687626good thing horde doesn't give a shittypical alliancefags caring about fucken buildings in an mmorpg
>>584685078Block being such shit is why I'm going druid at release. Love the concept of block tanks, hate how its implemented in classic
I just watched a level 16 troll warrior aoe pull 4 level 16-17 sunscale scytheclaw raptors that have a windfury ability and the warrior did not drop below 50% hpwhat the fuck is going on
>>584687935Nobody in Africa complains about living in mudbrick huts and nobody in Mongolia complains about living in yurts.
>>584687150Did you do the needful and give him them 1 gold COINS saar?
>>584687942What are they doing in the cuck corner?
Why won't they add a Parry tank to Forlo?
>>584687942Frost DK will still be shit so no.
>>584687654blizz hasnt had GMs in years if not decades at this pointThats pserver screenshot
>>584687654>why is every blizzard employee the most petty human being imaginableThis guy ran blizzard for a while and hired people with the same kind of personality as him.
yikes, gb2 /pol/ pls>>584687972>>584687972>>584687972
>>584687626AIIEEEE I DONT WANT HORDE ARCHITECTHURE ON HORDE!!!!!People like you are genuinely some of the dumbest people who post here
>>584688052prot is REALLY fucking strong
>>584687557>DUNEGONYes actually.
>>584688119/pol/ website
>>584687512this is the reason why everyone despises people working in unskilled laborMost of them are overcompensating, arrogant assholes that immediately turn it up to the max once you give them an ounce of power
>>584686652It takes little effort to hit 95+ if you don't suck
>>584687626>>584688120Horde architecture is good but it would also be cool if we got an outpost that had the Undead aesthetic of moldering and decrepit human buildings.
>>584687626>SOUL vs SOULLESS
a reminder that the #nochanges movement was never about 1.12 banilla being perfect, it was about not trusting nu-blizz to not make things worseand I think we've been vindicated in that regardfresh when
>>584688052i doubt that's gonna fly above level 40 though
>>584688109Pronouns on this creature?
>>584688052People weren't joking here when they said that this is retail-
The fuck was the point of "classic plus" if blizz is only adding retail shit?
>>584688272Why would the forsaken be involved that far south?
>>584687512You know what triggered the troon GM was absolutely the "my dude" at the end.
>>584687972>AM I BEING DETAINED??
>>584688359my streamer friend told me it would be totally epic pogger woggers if we added that stuff so we are
>>584688291with how much block prot has? I think it will
>>584688397I'm just speaking generally.
>>584687459You can continue to make jokes about horizontal progression and should, but the devs already walked back on that and said each raid will have higher ilvls and theyll be “soft reset”(ie level cap increases)
>>584688067it was just a bunch of real death knight players innocently playing battlegrounds in 2023 wotlk classic. don't worry about it.
>>584688119troon>>584688431retard
>>584688359fun is retail?
>>584688052Warriors are the protagonists of WoW Classic, why wouldn't they be the protagonists of WoW Forever?
>>584687494those times had their own kind of suck
>>584687246>You're also not factoring in losing the 50% mana regen from not casting.Question is how often can you stay not casting. Current auto filled healing gear set on sixtycharacters puts you at 259 spirit at 60 selfbuffed. That's 33.4 mana per second. Half of that is 16.7. In the absolute worst scenario you lose 20 seconds of regen, or 334 mana. Realistically it's much less. For dungeons, your damage has a greater impact than in raids. By using wrath during healing downtime mobs die faster which also means you need to heal less. As long as your mana allows it, you're spamming wrath.
>>584678186Yeah, always hated that. The people modelling those have never held a chopping axe, or any tools in their life.
>>584688359bait dumb uncs like me into preordering knowing full well that we are too lazy to refund once the betrayal becomes clearTheir next financial report will look stellar>but afterwards everyone will drop it againManager types are unable to think further ahead than the current fiscal year
>>584687494How is this not disneyslop?
I'm going to create my pvp characters on hardcore so I avoid the low level ganking and then transfer
>no dps has any mana/hit/aoe/cleave problems anymoreOk, and how do we balance this? They're kind of forcing themselves to make sure everyone does the exact same dps or else give them unique buffs.
>>584688802we go back to classic fresh when it releases thats how
>>584688798
yes yes goldshire is where you go to fuck the elf slutsbut where do I go for flower and bee pollination erp?
>>584688802I have mana issues as a level 28 frost mage.
>>584688359classic + meansclassic + shit falling off of Aggrend's diabetic ass right into the shills that play this shit game mouth'sthat's your + in classic +
>ProtwarriorLeast damage taken>BearBiggest health pool>ProtpalRaped
>>584688802not necessarily, dps shaman has severe mana problems and also does no dps
>>584688567Because we need reparations for them being dominant for 20 years
>>584688921Thunder Bluff.
>>584688802Now that all buffs and totems are raid-wide there's no reason to take more than 1 of any class besides damage which will lead to even more homogenization and trying to make everyone do the same damage
>We see nobody is playing Forever>We know what you want>You want to go back to when things were REALLY good!>Introducing… World of Warcraft… Forever Classic…
>>584688921if classic/forever, elwynn forest or moonglade.if retail, that one zone in Kul'tiras with all the bees.
You'd still want to bring at least 2 or 3 shamans for totem coverage though.
>>584688802Why should they have problems? Why do you want there to be less fun??
>>584688962I'm curious which tank will get the best threat generation. Its impossible to say right now
SOVL OVERLOAD!
with neither wotf nor shatter curse giving immunity ally lock seems legitimately fine
Is it true prot warrior can kill shit now or is it just tranny misinfo
>>584681572Wtf that blue one is not from Banilla
>>584688962Sissy pinky is good in aoe...NOT!!!HAHAHAHHA
>>584688962protpal is most active mitigation(shields) and self-healing (seal of light). retard.
>>584682327>>584684452It's now 100% overhttps://x.com/Stiven_SRB/status/2110900828219257059
why the fuck are they buffing mages so fucking much?>1.1k crit at level 30AT FUCKING LEVEL THIRTY
>>584689092It's very easy if you are a tank main.Bear>=warrior (sunder armor is sorta poopy ngl and st revenge is ass because low procs).Sp scales like shit and paladin has 2 (dos) buttons which scale horribly and a dot. Which also scales terribly.
>>584686192jaina gets zugged regularly btw
>>584689306ts is gas, I fuck w it
>>584689306The files are in the folders, but we don’t know how they’re being implemented.
>>584689227>most active mitigationand yet none of it even comes close to what demo shout and tclap do>self-healinglolbears have a button that heals them for their entire health pool
>>584687902>zero single target threat>weakest aoe threat>no mitigation cds>goes oom if they're not being hit so shitty off tanks>can be silenced, and mana burned
>>584689306Cool so when and how do I get my comfy turtle?
>>584689306Classic+ bros, we losted
>>584689227Funny guy eh?
>>584689306https://poal.me/3c6wxg
>>584689306>amazing looking mountfuck this soulless consooming serb
>>584689306All cash shop?
>>584688646I think it will come down to whether or not the wrath damage is worth it. If it only speeds up a kill by like 5 percent then probably not. I know wrath was buffed 50% but it was so bad. Also I wonder if going cat form would be better. That way you're getting full mana regen and not spending any. Also not taking improved tranquility might be lame, seems like it could be really strong to have available often.
>>584682153this stupid fucking horse made more money for blizzard than starcraft 2 did over an entire lifetime of sales
>>584689167Its true, at least until level 30. You get the block talents and improved revenge which will be your big hitterBut once arms/fury get their real damage talents I think prot will fall behind
>>584689306i am very thankful they revealed their retoileted nature before i gave them any money
>>584689375and thats a good thing!
>>584689514paid races isnt enough?name changes, race changes, subscription, or just have the cosmetics fit the game??
>>584689306>Y-shaped totem>not two totems crossing over each other>Y-shaped totemchrist
>muh arcane power>muh berserking>muh PoM>muh zandalarian hero charmi'll just drink a health pot and shrug it off. what are you going to do about it?
>>584689427W-well! S-sissy pinky has...TWO!!! bet you feel dumb right now!A-and muh redoubt and muh holy shield.*Poops diapers**Waddles away*
>>584689605correct
>>584689092its always bear and windfury cements the fact
>>584689568arms can cast MS like every 12s, fury will have 30% miss chance because of HS queue was removedprot will be bis atleast until lvl 60 and most likely will outdps actual dps classes while tanking
>>584689361What about when warriors get shield slam? Even the tooltip says it causes a VERY high amount of threat
>>584687626>topsoul>bottomsoulless
>missile barrage first row talentWhy did they give arcane mage an identity and then take it away?
>>584689548There’s a larger audience for a pretty horse than an obtuse, impossible to get into multiplayer game? You don’t say.
The mounts look pretty cool and you don't have to use them if you don't like them
what happened to this artstyle in wow?why is it all disney now?
>>584689306Can someone explain the spectral shit to me?Why do we get spectral bears from the Legacy points?Why is spectral the Forever theme?
>>584689479>4% mana every 3s on blocks only>Some shitty gains off seal of fury (worse than sotr)Cant wait for a boss to dodge, Parry and pinky getting zero mana lmao
>>584689787ngl I fucking hate that lower lip Garrosh has. Looks like a pugs jowls
Just got off the phone with an exclusive source.Rogues are getting a rework 3 weeks after release and getting Cloak of Shadows.
>>584689427>bears have a button that heals them for their entire health pool...which costs 100 rage and takes ten seconds. Meanwhile prot pally has a button that gives an absorb for their entire health pool instantly and doesn't take an entire full bar of resource to cast.
>>584689548honestly given how much Blizzard raped and stomped on SC2 to make it die faster I don't believe this unless Blizzard actually lets me look at their detailed financial report from that period myselfIt's probably a lie they told the public to ease the goyslop down everyones throats and give the useful idiots something to parrot
>>584688802>manaShamans and ferals run out of mana at least>hitEveryone gets 4-5% welfare hit now but no one gets 6-10% like they did before.>aoeCan you name the aoes that were added? Fire nova totem turned into fire nova?>cleaveCan you name the cleaves that were added? Bane of havoc and?
>if something looks like shit, its actually sovllove this cope
Sure the turtle and chicken look like shit, they should have just went with the original designs, but I really don't care about them adding more mounts to the game as long as they don't go full carnival with it by adding a new one every few months. That being said, if these are paid shop mounts it's genuinely over and this shit will be dead before the year is up.
>>584689838This guy looks like an extra from a movie from Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean series.
Holybros, how do we fix Light's Vigil?
as a roleplayer I like that tent
>>584686652it's gonna matter, this is WoW 2it's the new retail, you're just too lost in the sauce to notice itthis game will be the new m+ mythic progression gameracials matter
>>584689838what is this? hearthstone?
>>584689838America was warned.America (or at least the west coast techfaggots) chose not to listen. Enjoy your troon game made by faggots and women and lead by a jewess and her negroid CEO. Retards.
>>584689850your restless spirit will be playing wow forever anon
>>584689757Bear is above because they can wear leather dps gear without instantly turning to dust and thus have good crit which helps with rage and threat.That's all. If bosses do trick enough that getting crush->crit->floor is a threat, bear can't be played anyways.
I'm playing ele shaman
>>584689829Pretty much. I don't get the bitching. Sure the rooster looks stupid but the Turtle is kino
>>584689935>t. soulless troon that thinks stormwind is cool
>>584689838That's made with traditional colouring instead of digislop.
>>584690109yeah. same artist as your pic
>>584689306Yup, it's bad. Reddit is already in full damage control mode.
>>584689540>I wonder if going cat form would be betterCat form costs like 600 mana bro.
>>584689838Armies of calarts graduates have flooded both the gamedev and the film industry during the past 12-15 years
>>584690020i don't understand how it workswhat does "allied targets to heal their party" mean here? if you use it on an ally does it heal the entire party?
Troll regeneration sounds kind of fun but the more I think about it the more I realize it's probably entirely useless.Like realistically, if you CC'd a player/mob and enjoyed 5 whole seconds of uninterrupted regen, you'd get 1 second worth of out of combat health regen. Which is like 20 health or something (out of ~5000).Hmm. I guess trolls do still suck.
>>584689858Would be cool if it was metallic
>>584690141why do you think threat will matter in raids?prot warrior will probably keep aggro even if they only used shield slam and no other skills
>>584689887Paladin is easily the weakest overall tank. Bear and warrior have better AoE threat, mitigation, defensives, mobility, and single target threat. It's not even comparable at this point. I don't think I would ever want to have a paladin tanking my runs.
>>584690227Mechanostriders aren't whimsical at all though.
Go on. Trust me again you dumbfucks.
>4 female characters>and dwarf???????
fishing looks COMFY as fuck this time aroundI hope to fuck they will add the message in a bottle thing back
I WANT TO PLAY A MAGE BUT IT SUCKS
>>584690227sovl, actvally
>>584690227gnomes were a mistake and should never have been added to wow (they were as much of an asspull as the skelves)
>>584690348he plaps all of them
>>584690312lefty meme png
>>584690361fuck off we're full
>>584690348They know he can support a family with all that extra treasure he gets
>>584690348They are all there to bully him for being a midge(Gnomes are exempt from midge bullying)
>>584690348We cant get that mage set ingame.
>>584690227>gnomish mechano-chocobo you obtain by being good at the gameS O V L>>584689306>overdesigned paypig bullshit you obtain by swipingno sovl
>>584690348a dwarf with a big GUN
>>584690272Yeah it works like a healing splash ability, so you slap LV onto the Tank for example and hit him with Holy Shock. That will consume LV and cause the Tank to splash the heal out from themselves.
>>584690361in what universe does mage sucksactually you're right, you probably shouldnt play this game at all
>>584690020replace it with beacon of light
YOU HAVE THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON A BETA EVER IN THE COMPANY'S HISTORY. HOW DO YOU FUCK IT UP THIS BAD?This genuinely needs to be studied. What the fuck is wrong with Blizzard?
>>584690227God, retards like this being so intentionally dishonest. We all know where the slippery slope ends up. Retail WoW went through this, FFXIV went through this. Both are completely unrecognizable slop with clashing gear and mount artstyles all over the fucking place. I'd bet 100 bucks he's a retoilet trying to co-opt Forever into retail again.
>>584690453I have multiple 99 parses in SoD. All of my guild had at least 2 99s in every raid. Yes I do minmax.
>>584690409gnomes were in wc3 retarded lorelet
>>584690409Gnomes we’re from Warcraft 2, like trolls and elves.
okay, Rogue is NOT a good starter classHunter is still top of my list for launch day, Rogue is weak (and slow) as fuck during leveling
>>584690560blizzard hasn't made a good game in over 10 years, this is their new normal, that's why forever will be dead in 1 month
POCHIE!
>>584690339slowpoke
Fuck it I'm going rogue to gankmaxx
>>584690669hunter has always been the noob class with paladin
>>584690621there are trolls and elves in wc3
Man, the changes to racials has me stuck between troll and tauren for my shaman.
>>584690227fuckwads like this will get real quiet when you point out that WE STILL PAY A MONTHLY SUB FOR THIS GAME and it isn't freeware that needs 1000 store offerings to function
>>584690740You can’t gank anymore in wpvp since everyone can see u now lol
>affli best build doesn't cast wrack or siphon life>destro best build doesn't cast incinerateIs this good game design?
>>584690843just pick whatever you think is coolest since youre obviously not picking it based off power (orc)
>>584690492i meant it sucks in DPS or at least thats what streamers are saying.
>>584690843>shamanenjoy never getting to raid.
>>584690907no
>>584690903That's cute you thought this wouldn't have cosmetic mtx. There are people playing this game who actually thought that.
I would literally be happy paying triple the monthly sub fee if Blizzard was contractually obligated to use that money to hire white male artists and close their brownoid RMT cash shop
>>584683365need her getting railed anon stop being scared
>>584690239taking the shapeshifting cost reduction talent would cut that down. Healing touch is a meme and nature's swiftness is not worth six points, especially when half our shit is insta cast and we have lower GCD.
>>584690762ive leveled a paladin too (after last week changes) and theyre still sloweralso theyre kinda shit if youre alliance bc the natural progression (Westfall) is very leather/agi friendly and not a good place for mail and 2 handers, you gotta do Thanes mandatory and then move around continentsHunters are okay with never leaving Elwynn and the nearby zones
>>584690843Finally, a based player
>>584690903just don't buy the mtx, I hate the game as much as everyone else, but that's a non-issueI'm not gonna play if they don't revert the racials but if I do play, the day they add something that gives you actual character power in the store will be the day I quit
>>584691037Booba sucks in both. Back to Xiv I guess
>>584690952I like trolls looks best but not by much because tauren are pretty cool too. It's mostly tauren losing the 1% hit chance and trolls getting potentially super dumb health regen.
>check out this hyjal arena>we definitely did not made this beta for the sole purpose of sucking streamer cock and milking 60 bux from you and getting free PR>we also 100% pinky promise did not balance this whole thing around the tourney>no, bug reports arent going directly to the "stuff to laugh about later" folder
>WPvP is dead because of sharting.What's even the point of rolling on a PvP server now? Skirmishes aren't fun. Usually, whoever gets the opener wins, or you end up getting third partied, assuming neither of you has sharted by then.
>>584691282the new hp regen isnt that crazy (outside of levelling)if you had 100 hp regen, troll has 110, 11 in combatnow its 100, 120, 12
>>584691226Yeah.....no
are you enjoying Aggrend's diarrhea, the game, blizzdrones?
>>584691037>great raid and tank healing>need at least two shamans for totemsRetard
>>584690907Ahh yes sir everyone should just go 31 points in their main tree and 20 in their secondary to get the best cookie cutter result Thats the true vanilla WOW spirit that makes for great build diversity
>>584690131lol
are you guys going trick or treating?
>>584691481why 2, cause air grace and windfury?
nelf or human for disc priest with shadow offspec?
>>584691554yeah now every spec spams shadowbolt and we're right back to where we started LMAO
>>584691602are you going cock sucking
>>584691481>healingYou should've said that you're a girl or a sissy.
>>584691626human priest is strong nowhard to beat 2% crit and 5% spirit
>>584691602i'm going sneed and feeding
there's a genuine question of who's stronger between human and nelf depending on the length of the fights. blizz has said they're going to keep difficulty in line with original classic, meaning that quick boss kills are to be expected. Is nelf BiS?
>>584691602I'm way too old for that people would call the cops on me
>>584686901pray tell what a retarded combo constitutes anon
>>584691602Not a thing in my country so nah
>>584691427>he thinks getting one insta-cast regrowth every three minutes is worth 6 talent points
>>584691765should be yep, especially when timing it with consumes etc
>>584691554>last talent in a tree is so shit you are better off going deeper into another tree>good design
>>584691765If its easy then it doesn't matter either way
Tauren with fat udders
The CEO of Classic and Nostalrius has spoken: Forever is Retail Minus.
>>584677821Are there transmog restrictions by gear type? As an example, can I have a plate belt transmogged into a leather belt as a warrior? Or can I have a cloth chestpiece transmogged into a plate chestpiece as a mage?
Am I looking good bros
>>584690348>blood elfretail loading screen
>>584682153man i completely forgot about that artist. used to unironically follow her during retail wotlk cause I like how she drew draenei girlsand by like I mean I beat my meat to it
>>584690227Retoiletters are trying to slop up forever so it flops and their 20 years of collecting digital baubles wont go to waste
>>584691626disc is literal dogshit now. holy is like two times stronger. human obviously though.
>>584691602I'ma go trick or treating with your mom, ass naked.
>>584690843Troll's regen will be good in the very early levels, especially if you're a melee class, but it scales at such a comically low amount that it becomes actually worthless.Berserking is useless (+10% haste with a 5% uptime, ie ~0.5% haste)) compared to Skelves having perma 3% hasteTroll is the real Dw*rf of Forever, people just haven't realized it yet. Anyway, play Tauren
>>584686901>retarded comboLike what?
>>584691859As always, it matters to the people that play at the 1% level which is why we're discussing it. But you faggots just have to insert yourself into every discussion about optimization so you can talk about muh journey and quit at level 30 cause it's easier to watch daddy asmon play than do it yourself
>>584691920
>>584691953It was a more innocent time.
>>584691920game hasn't even launched and he's decided to permanently seethe from the sidelines instead of using his last opportunity to escape uber eatsanyway, which classes do I level first? going mage paladin druid warrior, all to 60 (neet)
>>584691949whose class fantasy is it to look like a 50 year old midget
>>584691920HE has spoken.
>>584691858I agree man like lower in the talent tree should be better? Why are they trying to overcomplicate these things?In fact blizzard should highlight the optimal 31/20 build for us (because of course its the best because it has a 31 point talent DUHHH) and then we can all spec the same and yippee and yahoo like its retail all over again
>>584692132hunter
If healing is for women, why are most doctors men?
>>584691820You can go tell your big idea to the druid discord. Make sure to mention the cat form thing too. I'm not gonna bother.
>>584691920Is he wrong, though?
>>584691953>retail wotlk was 18 years agobluds..
If you want to know what you will think about this game by this exact same time next year, then heed my words.World of Warcraft: Forever will not be a satisfactory long-term product for the players, or the company, with the way they take feedback now.Without a doubt, Holly and the people working on this project really do love it, and love the game in all its versions. However, there is a deeply rooted problem with how the product is being crafted through player feedback as demonstrated by this beta.The current feedback to design output loop philosophy is too player empathic and too receptive to prescriptive feedback. Players provide great feedback about the subjective experience of a product, but are notoriously bad about prescriptive solutions. The child's solution to his hunger is ice cream, all day every day. Players are no different.There has to be a healthier way to translate feedback into solutions. It is outrageous in a business sense that an obese Persian virgin Paladin can privately berate a company contact about his gay, microdick Reckoning stack cheese in PvP, and gets it reverted. Or that Mages (privileged perma victims) actually cried so much they got a new spell to mimic rank 1 Frostbolt's previous utility which was recently altered.These developers are under a "philosophy" of "player empathy" from above management, and are being mindfucked every single day by this mass mob of unthinking goycattle NPC who want ICE CREAM and WANT IT NOW!The end result of Forever will be a bastardized version of Era that people will look back on in disgust as time and design illiterate players have twisted because the team has their hands tied to the slavery of prescriptive player feedback, which is always awful, unprincipled, emotional, and not based on the second-order thinking and truly creative capacities required to design well.Just know you are playing a doomed piece of dog shit, make friends, and enjoy yourself.
Literally the only thing I wanted out of a refined vanilla was for Shaman to not be ass, and for feral and boomkin to not be ass. I know Shaman is somehow even worse, but how are Druids looking?
>>584692249>he looks up to the troons on a class discordlmao.rofl even.
>>584692242healing is the chad roleyou decide who lives and who diesyou set the pace of the groupyou are tenured in because if you go the group goes with you
>>584692208The real choice should be if you go more than 31 points into the tree instead of going 20 points in another tree. Like maybe you would like a 41/10 build more than a 31/20 build
>>584692347delete this right now
>>584692242healing is more analogous to a nurse or caretaker role (women)doctor? yeah that's my house M.D. INTJ supergenius mage comprehending scrolls n shiet
>>584691920>took him a whole month to realize when we called it right after blizzcon
>>584692372
So are they gonna send the opt in codes after the stress test?
>>584691037I have zero belief that Blizzard will actually do remastered HD like that, they'll just keep the rancid old models and retail barf
>>584692242doctors are high-agency and decisive, and need to exercise leadership and problem solving to actually fix peoples illnesses. healing in wow is just sitting on the sidelines like a literal scared cuckold pressing "heal" while big strong men do the real work for you.
>>584692374>but how are Druids looking?Druids fine. You'll just only want a single feral, that being a bear or dps.
>>584692374feral better. boomkin still shit but brings a raid buff.
>>584692481GNOME SEX
>>584692508the beta is over after that gwo
>>584692148Mine. I will tank your shit and you will heal me and thank me.
>>584692543that's a dwarf
>>584691780>>584692070>Like what?I don't know, use your imagination. Like maybe a Gnome Warrior tank (pre-Forever)Or a male Draenei Hunter.Some dogshit or ugly combo that instinctually tells you, "you know, maybe this guy is going to be shit".
>>584692543isn't that a female dwarf? looking at the braids
>>584692485>healing is more analogous to a nurse or caretaker role (women)why? most nurses cant do anything without a doctors permission anyways
>>584691927ye
>>584692080Melty alert. Sorry I'll leave you to your very important quest to defeat the boss 0.00001 seconds faster.
>>584692587no it isnt you frekain liar
>>584692242Those good healers in your group that save lives without anyone even noticing are the doctors, the ones that do the bare minimum are the nurses
>>584692485nurses at just doctors assistants. they just mouth breath and waddle around and do basic shit you could do yourself like take your blood pressure, height and weight.
>>584691920I'm officially more intelligent than alex because it didn't take me a month of playing the game to reach this conclusion.
I would love an option to be introverted, I always wanted to RP as a hermit. Like if I keep farming I can upgrade my gear indefinitely going from green>blue>purple>orange>red with multiple levels. But make it very grindy, for instance to upgrade from blue to purple it would take a week of gathering mats. Mats that are also sold in the AH this way people can drive the economy forward. It should also not be time gated, like if you're willing to spend 10k gold you can upgrade your sword from a green to a purple or something.
>>584692689>i cannot wrap my head around someone wanting to play a game at the highest level>i am very smart and based
>>584692132he's just doing it for engagementhe will login on 4th november anyway
Do we know what skelf moonkin is going to look like
>>584692118Graev still draws Monara being a slut to this day
>>584692619>>584692645my badDWARF SEX
Can you stop talking about some random eceleb who doesn't even play the game anymore
>>584692889GDKP solved this but they decided youre not allowed to play like that
Who's in the wrong here, and why?
>>584692387>you decide who lives and who diesno you fucking don't, without anyone to act as your meatshield you're literally defenseless instaloss rapebait
>>584692935The same exact old moonkin form but neon blue.
>>584692996based either way. would love to dick a midget girl
>Dark Inspiration increases Spirit instead of mana gains, making it fucking useless in combatlol?
Now that you can get whatever first name you want the danger of someone having the same first name makes me still try to think of a rare name
>>584693101Oh dear, it appears our tank is incompetent.*kick tank and replace them instantly*
>>584693160<name>xxthereal
>>584693147>every class has 50% mana regen in combat nowbro?
>>584693110So they updated all the models that looked okay but decided to keep the one that looks like dog shit
>>584693160new meta is rare 2 word names
>>584692625You're just retarded
>>584693089type b is yapping about a coping strategy he uses to comfort his ego about why he was incapable of competing with type a.
>>584692915"highest level" in game with a skill ceiling this low it fucking pathetic
how much of a fix/nerf was the change to hunter pets?
>>584693292t. mained a male Draenei Hunter
>>584693063HE is the voice of the community. If HE is already on the doom train, this project is toast.
so forever just looped all the way back around and made it so warrior is the only spec again?
>>584693263he's shitposting, they have not shown the boomkin form.
>>584692889lots of single player games that offer thisenshrouded was just released, check it out
>>584693263welcome to forever, replacing what people like and making everything shit is how we roll. be sure to buy the 30 dollar spectral cosmetic druid form bundle.
>>584693352Croc got nerfed pretty hard but it was retarded to give it mortal strike in the first place
>>584693160green only (female human/nelf)
for me, the name is Lo Li, the gnome priest.
>>584693438nah I mean the attack speed and/or scaling undocumented change
Can your first and last name be the same one?
>>584693463pic not related
>>584693403Just because you're a fucking retard that doesn't know what hes talking about doesn't mean everyone else is. Here, heres your favorite druid streamer onions facing at the neon blue sky elf boomkin form so you know its good.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ix5_O3e0ang
>>584693463Oh my g*d, shortstack gnome hunnies look like THAT??
>>584693463I've only got a little over 2 weeks left to come up with a lore friendly, RP appropriate name that manages to say, "I'm a huge sissy slut breed me" for my Gnome healer..It's tough
>>584693147>holy priests get 25% of their spirit as healing power
>>584693079I quit WoW before GDKP became a thing and I read about it and it seemed like a genius idea to drop the made up currency of DKP and just use what was already in game. Even with it banned people can still buy items for real money so the only thing banning it does is gate keep people that would rather not use real money and do it through legitimate in game methods like gold. Just seems like a completely retarded stance.
>>584693373ostensibly no, but basically yes it's gonna be priests, warriors and a few buffsluts all over againOh and that one Patchwerk Rogue.
>>584693079GDKP is allowed on the chink servers, go play with them.
>>584693463>Ona Hole and Tenga Hole were already taken>Onani Hole blocked by word filters >stop making alt in rage It's hard out here...
>>584681331>
>>584691920imagine being 30+ and still talking like a toddler in buzzwords.
>>584693801this is unironically better than what we got
>>584693801blorcs sounds pretty unique, i think i would rather play them than normal orcs
>>584693639Tenga Shaftsocketyou're welcome
>>584681808Prot paly was never viable in vanilla so this is just in line with true vanilla WoW which is what you said you wanted.Too bad they'll make ret good because every pink pussy belongs in the dress casting heals.
>>584687626top high test survivalistbottom womanly comfort
new thread?
>>584693925kek
>>584693958t. posted from my basementyou aren't him lil gup
>>584693925Thanks for the suggestion, anon>ShaftsocketI like thatI will keep my name ideas to myself however, there are sneaky people here
>>584693651The problem with GDKP is that Blizzard doesn't actually want to ban gold sellers and buyers because they pay for a sub but GDKP makes it very obvious who is buying gold and legit players start quitting when cheaters run rampant
>>584693801How much for blorc? Only $29.99? Can I top the meters with them?
>>584693463Why can't femGnomes look like this?
>>584694052Why is anon in your basement?
>>584694052simmer down lil gup
>>584693592lol that doesn't change what I said, ESL streamerKEK.
>>584693592that is good though
>chicken mount posted to reddit>1/3 posts hate it>1/3 posts say it's not even in the game stop crying>1/3 posts say they love it and want to buy itlol, this game is so fucked
>>584694646always has been
>>584691360Why would they not have capital cities be the same shard as the zone they're located in? Are they dumb?
>>584694646>>1/3 posts say it's not even in the game stop cryingI mean they are right
>>584678202>"There is too much blue gear!">"I'm too strong!">"I want to level way slower!"Something something retail
>>584694646why count the posts instead of the votes?
>>584694724tit physics are off, shit artwork.
Why the fuck is this platinum wow cockroach back? Did the OSRS grift not pay off?
>>584694646>>1/3 posts say it's not even in the game stop cryingThat shit is 100% going to be paid cosmetics for Forever, the cope is unreal. Game is going to be a total clownshow
>>584694753>fully modeled asset with animations gets datamined>it's not even in the game!are you retarded?
>>584693351and yet you still can't reach the ceiling. interesting, anon.
what the fuck is this piece of shit
Foreverbros... the sun has set. It's over.
>>584695042nice cope, you tell yourself that
>Tankdruid>Healershaman>Dpspriest, hunter, warrioris this the god comp?
>>584695040>>fully modeled asset with animations gets dataminedretail is full of unused mounts and pets and shit that was datamined and never used
>>584695042>assumes because he struggles with the baby game that everyone else does tooYou need a reality check mister
>>584695108You get to larp as a based mop shaman for 15 seconds.
>>584695148ah yes, I'm definitely the one coping and not the guy that tells himself it's okay to play suboptimally. You're so smart anon!
>>584695115We need Forever fresh
>>584695108>No CD chain lightning for 15 secondsHOLY SHIT 15 SECONDS OF NO DAMAGE BECAUSE IT DOES LESS DAMAGE THAN SEARING TOTEM
>>584695163paladin instead of warrior for blessings
Are lil gups going to be able to handle forever?
>>584695163so you just disenchant the caster gear? lol what a shitshow that group is
>>584695115the sun set 15 years ago when Cataclysm released, lil gup.
>>584690348We lost the cool old loading screen for some ugly art showing the continents
How bad are troll female two-hand melee animations?
is anyone else kind of bewildered they just came out of the gates with giving priest penance or druids berserk or mages ice lance? it feels totally alien.
Bake fresh bread
>>584695108you said you wanted elemental mastery? can you chuddies ever stop complaining?
>>584694857okay
>>584695108Its insanely retarded they changed not mangles name because it wasn't mangle but then put this in. I'm sure its literally just to spit in the face of every single shaman so whenever they ask for their elemental mastery talent back so they can press a hard hitting chain lighting stupid niggers on reddit could say "erm...you already got elemental mastery back though? xD" and ignore the class completely while they cast limp dick weak as fuck chain lightings and retail burst.
is 'lil gup' the next 'troon'?
>>584695251I'm not the anon you argued with beforehand. I'm just here to laugh at your pathetic copeBut now that I read that you were actually talking about racials it makes you look actually retarded.You're not playing "optimally", you're playing lottery about a mechanic that likely won't even exist anymore when you reach 60.
>>584695170give me 1 example of a mount with fully fleshed out animations that wasn't included.
>>584695502They're meh. The 2h animations look like they're lightly slapping the enemy, not trying to land deathblows. Male 2h troll animations are great, but the female ones aren't very good at all>t. has never played a non-troll horde race
>>584695649It's just zoomer streamer talk
>lil gup lil gup lil gupZoomies are actual NPC bots
>>584695507yep those spells are a huge red flag that the game will just be retail
>>584695642red freckled girls have much more sag than that. It's like you're not even trying.if they ain't hitting her knees i ain't interested
>>584695732t. lil gup
NEW THREAD FOR THE LIL GUPS PLEASE
>>584695732certified unc moment
>>584692915dude is getting chunky
>>584695649nah, i think its funny when someones called a lil gup. i dont like to ever be reminded that troons exist, its like being reminded that people torture animals or rape kids. its just a sickening thing, its not funny.
>>584695732it's a meme kupo
>>584695730and troon is millenial 4chan talk. whats your point?
>>584695907slowly killing himself just like he did his mother
>>584695732ok unc
>>584695907blud needs to lay off the fast food
>>584695907its because he doesnt have to share his mcdonalds with his mom anymore
>>584692915>>584695907>>584695981>dude is getting a little chunkyt. 480lb 4chinners who haven't left mommy's basement in a month
Kek. I see you posting your shit on reddit anon. I'm nooticing hehe...
>>584695695Stormcrow
Why did they buff mage niggers?
>>584695163I used to make it a purpose to leave as a tank/heals(druid with gear for both depends on the mood I was in that day) whenever I see a hunter join the group. Now a days I just start my own group and ignore all whispers from hunters or other druids.
>>584695907>>584695981I still don't understand what this guys' malfunction is. Isn't he a multi-millionaire at this point?Based on his followers he seems to have some golddigger whore now. But why doesn't he pay some sluts to clean his place and wash his ass?
>>584696129aww having a melty over your daddy getting a few snide remarks on the basket weaving forum?
>>584696146yeah? and watcha gon' do 'bout that, white boy? xactly, you ain't gon' do nuthing, whitey, nuthing!
>>584677821I miss the old "wild west" internet so much it's unreal.
>>584695108>nerf fire nova>but now you can spam gutted chain lightningamazinghow did they manage to spin a nerf as a buff
>>584694724Now make her have sex with a human shota
>>584695907>This is your symbol of masculinity
>>584695507Yes. Less so for penance and berserk, but ice lance unironically should not be in this version of world of warcraft. It's fine in a game where bladestorm exists, but when the capstone talent for warrior is one ability that costs a third your rage pool, mages having an instant cast frost spell that applies chilled and can deal double damage is just insane and extremely questionable from a balance perspective
>>584695814okay last one... it counts if she's leaning forward right?
>>584696259You are way too invested in this, my guy
>>584696316holy shit at that nerfench was pretty decent in dungeon because of it
so where is that death mark they promised for sub rogue
>>584696316by naming the nerf elemental mastery so they can do >>584695591
>>584696284Focus, A ;)
>>584696418She looks like she fucks orcs
>>584696249This just in: narcissistic streamer types lie about the sort of money streaming makes them. Little tip, whenever someone starts bragging how much money they pull in, be sure to make them clarify if its net or gross. Usually, dorks who brag about this sort of shit are talking gross. pun intended.
>>584696418She looks like she fucks worg
>>584696184it's literally in the game, retard. try again
>>584696419>no YOU care too muchcope
>>584696418tits too big, last size was perfect
>>584696603>not a human femaleincorrect
>>584696418Finally, some good fucking OC. That's more like it, anon.
>>584696591no, i think hes just a lazy slob
>>584696614>made in 2013>added in 2023
retard OP didn't link the new bake so I'll do his job>>584696030>>584696030>>584696030>>584696030>>584696030
>>584696418I'm the guy who originally gave you the note.>>584696636Don't listen to this guy, he quite clearly enjoys sucking cock.
>>584696030
>>584696591He's already showed how much he pulls in just tw*tch alone many times (before and after the ads nerf), but keep projecting. Not everyone needs to spend money to look rich all the time.Little tip, the most successful early retirees and business owners don't dress, act, or buy things you expect them to because it draws attention
>>584695907i was watching an old raid video he made 7 years ago and he said he had recently been into the doctor and weighed 116 pounds at 6'2.. how can you even be that sedentary with his diet of empty calories and wind up 6'2 116 pounds?
>>584696457it got nerfed by 50%, it does less damage and costs more mana than arcane explosion now, and has a 10 second cd on top of that
>>584697182a fuckton of adderall like every streamer and hardcore gaymer
>>584697182hes lying about his height
>>584696630I'm not the one obsessed with some streamer personality, lil gup
>>584696209all the big mage streamers work for them
>>584697309if he's 5'8, he's still 5'8 116 pounds. that's fucking crazy. and he recently said he can't even work out or attempt to build weight because his "chest is caved in" and it wouldn't grow right. Lmao
>>584688417Good catch
>>584697419>his "chest is caved in" and it wouldn't grow right.That's a real thing. It's called pectus excavatum. But he's like that because he does zero exercise, likely barely eats, and when he does eat it's completely empty calories. Combine all that and you get a sentient bean stalk
Notice how every streamer besides asmongold that plays WoW is a brown person or not very white person? They all are italian or spic or muslim or asian. None of them are northern european white or anglo. This game is literally full of non white people. That's why it's trash.
