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Previous Thread: >>584649864

>Guild List & Resources
https://rentry.org/a2g
>General Progression Guide
https://rentry.org/nfatips

>War for Atreia - Twitch Drops
https://www.warforatreia.com
>Server Status
https://aion2.gaming.tools/server-status
Monitor closely, some reopen every hour or so if not full.

>DPS Meter
https://notmeter.com/
>Character Creator and Closet Testing
https://questlog.gg/aion-2/en/dressing-room/create

>4chan Advanced Access Servers ⁕ Legions (Password)
◈ NA East | Elyos — Nezekan ⁕ NoFunAllowed (a2g)
◈ NA East | Asmodian — Zikel ⁕ NoFunAllowed (vidya) ⁕ FunAllowed (vidya)
◈ EU | Elyos — Nezekan ⁕ NoFunAllowed (vidya)
◈ EU | Asmodian — Israphel ⁕ OnlyFeet (a2ga2)

>4chan Launch Servers ⁕ Legions (Password)
◈ NA East | Asmodian — Lumiel ⁕ Cloverflow (a2g)
◈ EU | Elyos — Ishtar
◈ EU | Asmodian — Fafnir
◈ EU | Asmodian — Quai ⁕ msgk (vgcorr)

>Free Server Transfers Info
http://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/board/notice/view?articleId=6ac932a8fa34c1011d627bc9
http://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/board/notice/view?articleId=6ac7e128d97eae18cc40e3b7

>Reminders
∘ Legion passwords are on the rentry.
∘ Hybrid "it's only a few randoms" discord guilds are NOT /vg/ guilds.
∘ If a server is full, either wait or join a temporary one until free transfer on October 14th.
∘ Can't transfer from NA > EU / Elyos > Asmodian (and viceversa) nor Early Access > Launch.
∘ Ping makes for a moderate difference with sprinting / mounting / boss mechanics. Choose wisely.

>/a2g/ events
>Zikel FA & Nezekan NFA cross-guild photo: Saturday, 2 PM PDT/5 PM EDT/9 PM GMT. Location in Altgard, NFA will need to rift
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Did you know one of the Gladiator stigmas adds flat damage and health absorption to every party member's attacls?

It's got really good uptime and works out to a 2-4% DPS increase for everyone and good sustain, over a full heal's worth across a typical boss fight

LET ME IN YOUR FUCKING PARTY
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>>584689830
Sorry anon. I just got 1600 on my cleric last night so I can't join. I do join random weaker parties though just to help them through this shitty af gatekeeping community but the I'm feeling the burnout hit.
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It's Friday, you do have energy for Conquest/Transcendence today, right?
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>>584689830
>makes party
>[No Assassin/Glad]
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>>584689980
>Cleric
Nough actually at higher levels youre useless!!!!!
>Gatekeeping community
Idk the server chat is mostly chill
I dont like leveling dungeon parties being half bots though
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>>584690023
i have TOO much energy, i made an alt b/c I want running out of stuff to do and now i'm looking at running 40-50 dugeons a week
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>>584690130
NO NO NO YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME
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Spiritmaster is boring.
what classes are fun?
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>get pro 20 crafting
>it barely moves now
All the money goes into leveling this shit up.
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>>584690209
>useless
Thats fine. I'm most likely gonna go back to my single player backlog + making mods for other games. Friend of a friend wants me to make some kind of nsfw alt costume. Have fun!
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>>584690023
I still need to gather and morph enough odyle for 10 energy refills

Could buy it off market but that's almost a million kinah
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>>584690269
just stop playing it, pretend you never made it.
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>>584690023
Worse than gacha.
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wtf is the point of a Legion in this game?
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>>584690791
So you can have everyone dress the same and be like
>WE ARE LEGION
>WE ARE ANONYMOUS
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>>584690367
idk they're all kind of the same.
assassin has back attack requirements, sorc and ranger have channeled skills you need to cast sometimes, everybody else is the same just holding macro+m1.
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>>584690920
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Anons in previous thread genuinely claiming that progressing your character forever is just a kmmo thing when that is the whole concept WoW was built on. People want a reason to grind in MMOs that goes beyond receiving cosmetics or mounts of which there are now 500 in the game. Explain to me how, yes, infinite vertical progression is in fact what people crave paired with community and a convincing world? Why would there be so much positive sentiment for WoW Forever if that was not the case?
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>>584690980
Never forgetti
Spilled sphagetti
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this is called balance.
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>>584691075
you're stupid, or you're just being disingenuous.
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>>584691147
>chanter best
>cleric worst
fuck this game
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>>584689590
ElyosGods
Join NoFunAllowed NA East
Pass a2g
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Oh, you really can't solo in this.
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>>584691075
Social aspect. NuMMO gamers have it easy. Back then, you couldn't solo. It was hard. You had to do corpse runs if you died. GL getting your stuff back if you died in an angry pile of mobs. Then MMOs got dumbed down. Now we have this problem of
>RUSH RUSH RUSH TO LEVEL CAP
>GRIND GRIND GRIND TO GET BEST GEAR
>OK now what?
All because people complained
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>>584691147
>be ranger
>have to do no mechanics or dodging
>gifted top dps

good balance
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>>584691350
huh?
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>>584691147
>It's okay because support isn't suppose to be str-
>chanter
Gooks can't balance for shit
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>>584691147
assassfucks...
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>>584691413
what about spiritmaster?
class is brainless and is doing cleric dps lmao.
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>>584690419
I'm more mocking the dickhead anon from last thread who was all "ackuually everyone knows how to dodge so you're wasting your time"
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>>584691147
>Assassin lower than the dedicated tank class
Hoo boy I sure dodged a bullet not rolling that shit, didnt I?
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>>584691763
Should've figured. My feelings on the matter still stand though. Not feeling the game in the long term with all these systems, currencies, shit UI, and a plethora of other issues.
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does this mean it'll delete after the time period or just not usable? i want to start a lil event consumable collection
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>>584691987
Just save it and see what happens.
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If you need your MMOs to be adult daycares like FF14 and WoW you're free to go back there, here we want sexy characters that ascend to godhood levels of power with loads of gameplay, not fake busywork like fishing 5000 times
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>>584691075
>Have to deal with people
>Hard low ceiling
Lot of room for skill expression
>Have to deal with people
>Infinite sealing
Rewards whales, time investment, puts b value on numbers
One is soulful, one is soulless
And judging from your active disdain for human interaction and just viewing other people as numbers that make your numbers go up, you can't refute my statement
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>>584691147
Maybe if you stopped having big booty cheek whores as assassins, you'd have better dps. All that brapping isn't good for stealth.
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>>584692163
If we're doing the seasonal reset of power shit that KR does, this is all meaningless.
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>>584692163
>not fake busywork like fishing 5000 times
as if aion isn't full of "fake busywork"?
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>>584691957
>The systems
Ill need to get back to you on that, I sort of find unlocking new cosmetics fun
>The currencies
I soft don't mind, what's unacceptable is some of them taking a slot in my inventory
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>>584692163
>have criticism of game
>le wow/ff14 boogeyman
Is this what people call "rent free"
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>>584690573
get nyerked
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>>584692241
How do you know this...
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so what happens to all the shops when the season resets?
are your points deleted and the cosmetics moved to unobtainable?
is it only the season shop that rotates?
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>enter aion 2 general
>seething about world of warcraft or final fantasy 14
do i pick the worst times to lurk or are you guys always doing this
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>>584692782
Peak EU times are always like this, esp on weekends
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>Bully Bimbos off the main thread
>Thread dies
>Game dies
I hope you're happy
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>>584692163
I WISH aion had "loads of gameplay, not fake busywork" it might actually be my main game if it did
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>>584693008
very
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>>584693008
game dies because the gameplay doesn't warrant the amount of gatekeeping.
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>>584692782
It's like one guy
He's just that vocal
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>>584693008
It's a Korean slop mmo, it was never destined to last long
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>>584692879
This. I'm a little glad that EUtards decided to fuck off from NA East because the guild is always chill and comfy. Meanwhile EU is melting down about something new every other day.
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>>584690367
no recommendations bros?
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my cleric just tooted :3
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I love talking in legion chat with my guildies and join their expeditions (no one is trans level yet)
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>>584691075
No. Nobody* wants infinite vertical progression. That's why it went away.

Some people like the IDEA of infinite vertical progression. When they close their eyes, they imagine a game that does not and cannot ever exist, played by imaginary people who do not behave like actual people, but rather NPCs that solely exist to fuel the imagineer's concept of a game with infinite vertical progression.
But every single time those people are presented with a game that attempts actual infinite vertical progression, reality quickly sets in: It's not fun or interesting or at all like what they imagined, because they only like the IDEA of infinite vertical progression.
Instead, when the game turns out to not be fun, the same litany of stock excuses come out. The game just "didn't have that special something," or "the devs had gold in their hands and they fucked it up," or "it was never going to be good anyway, but the idea is still good."

Most people eventually realize that the reason that keeps happening is because the reality of infinite vertical progression is that it's dogshit, and the reason they liked the idea of it is just because they hadn't really thought things through.

A few people never come to that realization, and they keep over-validating their own opinion by focusing on spurious evidence that there's a market for shit like that, and coming up with excuses for why all the evidence against their idea doesn't count. <-- You are here

Most people eventually realize
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>>584692879
>Peak EU times
Bruh I thought this level of condescending "I hate everyone for doing [anything] because I live in a miserable caste state"was only localized to /aceg/ and French canadians
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>>584693423
*"Nobody" defined as "too small a group of people to ever support active development of anything but a tiny niche game.

(Sorry, I got bored of that writing that post toward the end of it and forgot to read it back)
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>>584693441
Australians are afflicted by it as well
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>>584693423
Yeah vindictus seems to be a glaring example of this issue
>The power gap is so huge it's hilarious how worthless weapons are that cost 1000's of dollars to make
>Bunch of obsolete content and a genuinely terrible economy 100% reliant on your real money spending power just for you to have an infant mole's cock of a chance at catching up to people who nonstop drop fat loads to get the new best shit every patch
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What happens after Aion season reset? If my shit gets reset I may as well quit now. I’m sick and tired of seasons in mmos.
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is this game even alive in KR?
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>>584693953
DNF bros...
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>>584693953
It has been falling off since the summer really hard in KR, but no it was never in the top 10 afaik
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>>584693680
Reminds me of that area in dishonored
>There's a whale in a warehouse
>It's suspended by chains or whatever
>thought it was dead and the people there were cutting it up
>Nope, It's still alive and being milked
And that's the whales in these "freemium" games
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>>584693895
Iirc very specific things are reset
Last I checked you'll have your gear but Theres aspects that need to be refilled again or whatever
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BEAST
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>>584693953
God Koreans really do have the worst taste
It's no wonder they overvalue soju, kpop, and have hilarious suicide rates
It is a fucking oligarchial shit show of closeted depression and it needs to be reset
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>>584693953
clear trend here is that not even koreans want this shitty kind of dogshit ass mobile MMOs
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Is there no way to change my hairstyle without paying real money
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>>584694479
yes and no
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>>584693895
The trade shop resets and you can farm more stuff in the shop again.
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>>584694415
no they're just too heavily invested in their 20 year old Lineage and Maplestory and don't have the room to take more than a month break to spend on these fotm games.
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>>584694224
You'll have your gear but it's a soft-reset like a traditional MMO expansion is. Crafted gear is an exception, but your gear will pretty much immediately be powercrept by dungeon gear next season.

KR/TW is doing like 10m DPS right now in their version. So don't expect your fire temple gear to last into the next season.
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>>584693953
I remember people laughing at other for saying the game wouldn't die because it was still in top ranking after month in KR. You can literally see the same thing here when people post steamcharts lmao
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>>584694591
>10m dps
Great. Another numbers bloat experience.
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>>584694558
do the skins and wings change?
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>>584694479
There is 1 appearance change voucher in the season 1 shop but it costs 36,000 oath tokens. But yeah it's free.
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>>584694206
Yeah but the whales do it for free
Hell they do it willingly
I don't know what their financial state is, but I would totally swipe(harder) if I were 1-2 income brackets higher
Until then I can usually rationalize 200$ a year on a single game without feeling regret
But I by and large have to concede that no KMMO considers my level of continued support to be even the drippage off a sweaty cunt hair compared to the pond that is a whale's "contribution" to the business model
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Soul binds
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>shugo tiles
>tranny so focused on grabbing orbs he has to piggyback on my tile
>I wasn't paying attention either and get it wrong for both of us
>tranny declares it a bot lobby and ragequits
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>>584694730
That's annoying I just want to change my hair. There should be a barber shop or something
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>>584694591
>My temple gear
Idk what that means I'm just levelling to catch up to my posse
Ill worry about that crap when it happens
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The fuck is the point of having servers when Abyss is just gonna be this random mini-server that stops functioning whenever things are happening in it
I'm so done with this
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>>584693953
it was popular for the first 3 months it released.
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>>584694101
DnF has been a china game for awhile now brother.
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>>584694143
>it was never in the top 10 afaik
it was constantly in top 5 and higher for first few months, and in top 10 for 7 months straight in KR
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>>584694926
I still don't know why maplestory is so popular there. I've played it for 2 months with a friend and I hated every moment of it. I still remember an experience of mine
>go grinding
>kill stuff for what seems to be a long time
>falling asleep
>snap out of it
>look at the time
>it hasn't been 5 minutes
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>>584693953
what the fuck... i thought this game was popular over there
so i assume it'll suffer the same fate in the global release then? i guess i had my fun already
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>>584695496
>i thought this game was popular over there
Lost Ark is more popular and Koreans have been nonstop shitting themselves about how terrible that game is for like 2 years straight.
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This game died fast
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>>584695496
Time gating just about everything in this game has already killed it
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>>584695496
what do you think? you really thought this piece of dogshit will survive the west?
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>>584695691
I give it 2 years personally and i am being very generous here.
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>>584695496
the moment you stop running on the treadmill, you will notice that this game has literally nothing to offer than that, and overpriced skins
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>>584695278
I believe you anon, because the same exact thing happened to me and one of my friends when we played Lost Ark. Game actually put me to sleep not once, but twice.
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>>584695496
it will suffer the same fate as every other eastern port.
average popularity on launch into a small niche title that some people grind for decades (bdo, lost ark...).
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>>584694926
I can't wait to laugh at the fags sucking ncsoft's cock today
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>>584691147
At least Gladchads can have their retribution once they get some gear. Sinbros however...
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bros.... we just hit another new low.... why is it dying so fast... bros...
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>>584695661
>>584696273
Can't believe the game is already ded
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>every pvp fight you utterly annihilate your enemy or get annihilated
>theres no inbetween, fights seldom last more than 2-5s
This game is dogshit
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>>584696273
way too much seasonal fomo for the insane grinding and timegating for progression.
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>>584696358
its a wallet check simulator after all
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>>584695989
Yeah and everyones a fuckin elitist asshole in that game
In a fucking diablo clone
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>still no EU guild that isn't a Discord clique
I want to play with anons...
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>all the brown ERP avatarfags fuck off to /trash/
>suddenly whole thread hates the game
kek
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>>584696532
wooooooooooooow maybe you should have picked na
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>>584696689
i play until my sub expires
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>>584696273
>steam mmo
Pretty cancer in the long run. Steamchart eventually shows declining numbers which snowballs into nonstop doom posting of 'dying game'. AGS fucked up alot with LA/Throne but number posting definitely hurt those games too.
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>>584696709
Reminder FunAllowed is full of /trash/troons
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>>584696689
Don't be too sad about assassin, can't you just out level the groups or play with one of the guilds in the OP?
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>>584696816
>nooooooooooooooooooo i cant lie for my favorite billion dollar mega corpo that the game is still alive! hecking fucking steam!!!
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It's over... no more pervert anons... game dieded

>>584693008#
For me it's a combination of no photo mode and picking the wrong class. The content is just okay, not good enough like LA to justify staying for too long.I'm only here for the slutty outfits, so I'll probably play one more week and that's it until the next kmmo. Maybe I'll give ffxiv another try, there's not a lot going on in the market right now.

>>584696810
Shit i forgot about the sub, well my game time has been extended an extra week
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>>584696689
>another bot sharter quitting
Thank god by far the most annoying group of refugees ITT
The sooner all lost sharters kill themselves the better
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>>584696816
Everyone knows that after the first 3 months is when you'll start seeing how the game will actually fare. Before that, it's just curious people trying things out and dropping the game after they have had their fill/hit a wall.
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>>584697039
if all "lost sharters" kill themselves only you will remain in this game, seething at lost ark
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>>584697010
1 month here, 1 month in Wow forever, 1 month PoE2, 1 month Evercold. Busy holidays!
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>>584697164
You mean no bitching and whining about alts? No bot sharters gatekeeping raids on ilvls? No more asmon refugees because he's the one who introduced bot ark to the western retards? Yeah huge improvement
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>>584697010
Share your preset before you leave
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>>584697306
>he thinks lost ark inventend ilvl gatekeeping and that is suddenly going to go away
lol, lmao
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>>584697306
why are you defending shitty game practices?
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>>584697423
Idk you tell me, didn't you play EoS ark?
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>>584697528
pretty sure nobody here is defending lost ark. in fact most posts lament on how shitty it is
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>>584697710
I don't miss it and the combat and raids are overrated.
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>>584697710
....Which is why the lost arkers are ITT complaining about how alt-unfriendly it is because they want to spam alts
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I think I can finally articulate my grievances with the combat.

you don't have any idea what you're doing at any moment and it makes it feel too simplistic and dull. when I push a button in Dark Souls or Monster Hunter I know exactly what weapon swing is happening. even in something that compares more closely, like Diablo or Path of Exile, you are using a single ability and you can see what that ability is doing. but in AION 2 you're putting multiple abilities into the macro so you don't even know what abilities are flying out. you just push your macro button and haha spells go brr! and it will only get worse as the game progresses and your "Combat Speed" improves.

and on top of that there isn't really any timing to the attacks. it's just shit them out ASAP. if you learn boss patterns in Monster Hunter, you can charge your greatsword swing to have it connect as the monster is arriving at you and you have the narrow window to smack it in the head to daze it before it hits you. so again, we'll look at something more comparable, Diablo or Path of Exile. sure there isn't much timing here since you can't really stagger, and those games are about shitting out spells ASAP, but there's lots of movement in those games and the visual clarity isn't great in those games either since people often complain about being 1shot by shit they couldn't even see offscreen.

idk this game compares most closely with the grinder isometric ARPG's that are all about going fast, but they still tried to stick to some of the traditional MMO mechanics like having too many abilities and the trinity. there's dodges and perfect dodges and some classes have active blocks, but it's like they're confused about their identity and the combat just misses the mark because of it.
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>>584697746
i disagree heavily about the combat and raids but i don't miss it either
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anyone RMT? whats the going rate?
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>>584696970
It just feels like shit to play anon, dying in 1 hit to anything in t2 transcendence because the tank moved 1 cm to the left is just ass. At least in LA when i played Gunslinger you had a lot of mobility not tied to targeting, so you could do stuff without getting hit at all.

>>584697039
Hey, I'm an assasin I'm literally useless in everything, we are the only class not gatekeeping.

>>584697272
I played wow retail for 10 years and stopped at legion, also played classic for a bit, sadly I did everything there is to do.

>>584697383
Sure, you can get my older preset though, just search perfect goth in the styleshop and you'll find it, i rewrote it like an idiot so i basically lost it.
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>>584696559
it's just a skill issue. and since the majority of people are too shitty to play it, it's better to just not invite them.
same shit I did with deathblades and sorceresses in lost ark. not worth the risk.
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>>584697842
nobody itt is complaining about alts
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>>584697842
who the fuck are you talking about
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>>584697848
The combat was designed around pvp first and pve grinding second.
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>>584697848
Iktf.
>got dd2+dlc
>picked fighter
>finishers feel very satisfying as you drive that blade into a monster's chest and there's blood spurting out everywhere and the crunch sfx that goes along with it
Completely different genres but damn does it feel good to execute even if it's just an attack.
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>>584698246
>The combat was designed around pvp first
could have fooled me
the skills are basically unreadable, not that it matters since the thing that determines who wins in PvP is gear and owned stats.
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>>584698186
>>584698054
>I don't read the threads therefore they don't exist
You aren't even worth engaging with anymore just quit the game already
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>>584697998
skill issue is...
not getting lvl 20 clone
not getting lvl 16 heart gore
not getting lvl 16 quick slice
not getting lvl 16 insignia

You need ALL of that to even function like a normal class, and you still die in 1 hit
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why do some gay classes have literal 5 seconds stuns in pvp? what fucking class is this
ranger has fucking nothing
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>>584697848
In regards to your first paragraph, people typically describe this as the combat having "weight", or I guess being responsive. But yea I agree completely. You're not really commanding your character in this game like others. You're moreso commanding a script. And it doesn't feel good.

I've made the complaint before but this would feel fine or even good if the "raid" tier content in Aion 2 were super unique or uniquely challenging, but as it stands it's just a budget, easier version of other MMOs. All the mechanics are mechanics you've seen before, and the only challenge we have so far comes from number bloat (thing hits hard or has a high DPS check) as opposed to any sort of mechanical complexity.

I don't think you can make a game where your class plays itself AND the challenging content is underwhelming. Just begging people to get bored
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problem is just that comabt doesnt have weight.. i wish casters would have long cast time but ti would hit like a truck or gladiators slow swing times but also hit like a truck... but its just noodles swinging
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>>584698513
quote all these posts itt complaining about alts. go ahead anon
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>>584698532
>You need ALL of that to even function like a normal class, and you still die in 1 hit
But that's every class besides templer. I'm a cleric and get 1 tapped at my item level. Have you got your defensive passives levelled especially if there is one that gives you a fat shield if you eat shit?
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>>584697848
also lost ark having counter attacks makes it way more engaging too even though they're more closely aligned to grinder ARPG instead of the traditional MMO trinity.

there is literally nothing in AION 2. no thought, and no input required at any point. you just hold the macro. it's like playing a diablo 3/poe afk right click build, like a whirlwind barb or strafe demon hunter...
and this second point is even further supported by people literally using gaming hardware toggle macros instead of holding any hotkeys.
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>>584698750
>But that's every class besides templer.
And chanter*
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>>584698890
I would adopt you t.cleric but I think you're NA.
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>>584698565
yes the combat feels very floaty and has no impact, that's something else I've felt but just forgot to include for some reason. it does mostly align with my first point about you having no idea what you're doing at any given point.
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>>584698728
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/Alts%20sealed/
Kill yourself bot arker, go back to /lag/ already
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>bunch of monhun, dogma, lost ark, and poe players itt
Strangely based collection of anons with similar tastes. Shame this game didn't pan out, maybe we'll all see each other again in the next MMO.
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bind with my cock, kru
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I require a round aion female booty on my face
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>>584698750
I have almost everything maxed, we have no shields either, it's just a 1 minute cd heal when you drop to 10%
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>>584699029
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/Alts%20sealed/
>27 posts
>most of those aren't even from /a2g/
>out of the ones from /a2/g one or two are complaining about alts
>according to you, that means everyone itt is complaining about alts
?????
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well that's a lot of CP but a shame it rolled like garbage
it was an intermediate stone too
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>>584699402
could be better
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>>584699362
Dishonest troon does this look like one or two? This is only one of the many search term too
But it's not worth engaging with a lost sharter any further just quit the game and go back to /vm/ with your dead dogshit
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>>584697848
and one more thing I just thought of.

there is no real breakpoint or feeling of your power growth in this game.
when you complete your set in diablo 3, you go from struggling to farm high torments to vaporizing everything in T16. you get to fucking POOMP and BALAST and that's the shit that makes your dick hard.
but diablo 3 only lasts me like a week before I get bored and I think that's why because getting that power spike is fun and then you play with it for a bit but the gains after that are so slow and unnoticeable that I just stop playing.

getting strong enough in Lost Ark that you can sell carries of the raids.

AION 2 doesn't really have power spike breakpoints or anything. you get a level 16 or 20 skill and you get a higher dps number but you're still clearing all the same content at the same speed.
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>I HATE CLERIC IT'S SUCH A BRICKED CLASS
>
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>>584699791
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>>584699506
nigger i hit a 15% 4 times in a row
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lmfaooo we are keeping nezekan east from taking their spawn island world boss

this is what yall get for the siege yesterday
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Nobody's forcing you to play, if you're not enjoying it why not go do something else. The devs had a year before the global release to modify the gameplay loop and chose not to. Not trying to justify things that could change for the best but all the doomposting leads to nowhere.
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I just got Overhead Slam 20
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>>584699791
only retards here that don't know a thing keep saying cleric is useless
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>>584699621
>lost arkers are ITT complaining about how alt-unfriendly it is because they want to spam alts
Is what you said. Four posts in that image are complaining about alts having to do too much

We are on thread #63, each thread hitting bump limit, at least 800+ posts
Let's just say 5 posts to make it a simpler number to math out. 62 full threads of 800 posts is 49,600 posts. 5 posts in that 49,600 is what you're seething about. None of those 5 posts are in THIS very thread, either. So you're seething about 5 posts out of nearly 50,000 that got posted a week ago.

This is what people call "seething" or rather, mental illness.
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Never seen worse PvP I think
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>>584697848
>>584698831
I agree, but the combat still feels better than in FFXIV
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>>584697946
are you into boys? and if I make a character on on your server would you do lewd stuff with me...?
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>>584700076
u no rike 5 second stun?
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>>584700005
because if I post my thoughts I can see if I'm being a gay retard and misunderstanding something, or not.
this is the step that leads to either the uninstall wizard or the play button.
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Ranger sisters, we made it. We're the ones who will lead the actual dps classes to the light!
I already have clerics dming me!!!
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>>584699791
>I HATE CLERIC IT'S SUCH A BRICKED CLASS
not now, retard. Give it a month or two, and you will see this everywhere.
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>>584700076
nezekan tranny doesnt like pvp more at 11
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>>584700151
I've only played ziv for like an hour so I don't have a ton of experience but it's dogshit. wow is the only good tab target mmo ever made.
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>>584700151
eh I disagree. i wouldn't call ffxiv's combat good by any stretch, but i at least have more fun pressing the buttons of my jobs in that game than i do holding lmb rmb and occasionally pressing q or e in this one.
even if that weren't true, the average dungeon/trial/etc is far more involved than the dungeons in this game
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>>584700017
How did you manage to put the skill in your greatsword?
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>>584700317
I’m on a random EU server and tried arena. I usually like PvP in MMOs tho.
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>don't play for 1 day
>come back and the thread is in full doomer mode
what happened yesterday?
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Pet the sho, it's good luck
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>>584700552
zikel lost siege again
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>>584700552
More people are hitting the endgame and realizing the game sucks
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>>584700552
all the bimbos left for /trash/ which then moved onto discord
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im broke niggas. send me some kina
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>>584700630
you troons are losing rn and cant even keep your spawn islands lol we have full control of the abyss and wb rn
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>>584700248
Not that anon but why?
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>>584700552
asmo players finally realized they got duped by the tranny clique into being number fodder for their guild
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>>584699016
Even in aion they managed to do it better. Attacks had a little bit of hitstop to them when they hit the enemy (and they they had none if they missed) and the sound effects were much better. When your attack crit it had a distinct sound, you could clearly hear it and it was satisfying as fuck. Attacks were slower too so crits didn't disappear into a sea of other attacks like they do in this game. As a ranger so many attacks land at the same time and they all feel the same, crit or not.
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>>584700552
we're approaching the end of the 2 week honeymoon period. f2p 2 weeks is on Monday, p2w was 2 days ago.
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>>584699621
>Valid criticism
>Reee lost arker
sybau
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>>584699791
>>584700042
Only retards think they are doing anything, Chanter has better buffs and broken damage, there's 0 reason to bring a Cleric over one besides brain damage, of course extreme retardation is in effect since people are looking for both when nothing stacks.
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>>584700552
>just wait until max level bro it gets good trust
>just wait until the next tier of conquest dungeons bro it gets good trust
>just wait until transcendence bro it gets good trust
>just wait until your stigmas are all lvl 20 and your skills are lvl 16 bro trust it gets good
>just wait until the raid bro trust it gets good <---- we are here
People exhausted the game's content and are now on the treadmill that's supposed to last them 2 months. And they're realizing it's inadequate.
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>>584700759
you can turn off combat text and your gameplay experience improves. that's how badly they fucked up the combat.
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>>584700963
this game will never be like lost ark so you can wait for your dogshit lost ark classic or just kill yourself
the latter is better for you
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today im playing my asmo alt again and not touching elyos main
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>>584700248
Why? What's wrong with cleric?
I am maining Cleric so I need to know
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>>584700552
bimbos left, they were the only people keeping this thread slightly positive. As more people progress through the game, the more they realize that it sucks, can't even get good outfits without paying.
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>>584701178
And lost ark will never be diablo
What is the appeal of lost ark
Other than sharing the space with awful people and narcoleptic gameplay
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>>584701330
yeah the armors suck and them being universal with no class identity attached to any armor just makes it even worse.
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>>584700970
Yeah they already beat the game. So they can quit now.
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>>584701178
>the game will never have good content
wow anon we already knew, but thanks for the clarification!
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>>584701330
>Bimbos
You mean people who have money to spend on cosmetics?
You mean not-Europeans?
Those bimbos? During euro hours?
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>>584701427
beating an mmo in under 2 weeks is pretty bad.
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>>584701485
if your dead dogshit had good content you wouldn't be here whining and crying, instead you be in /lag/ on /vm/
/vm/! LMAO
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>>584701581
I mean the systems are in place to whale the fuck out that's hardly surprising that it's possible
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this game guy seethes about lost ark for hours on end every single day itt
i wonder what happened to him to make him so emotionally attached to that game
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Should I roll off the back attack or might to fish for combat speed?
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>having a little internal monologue
>pvp in this game sucks
>yes it does
>what are you saying? There's no pvp in this game
>nigga you crazy!
>hold on. Hear me out. There's no pvp because at the end of the day, it's WvW
>"WvW"?
>wallet vs wallet
>:3c
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>>584701851
He stopped playing lost ark and we aren't glazing it
There's a clear disconnect that needs to be addressed
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Once again completely out of energy.
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>>584701613
but i'm playing the game? no need to be so angry because this game will die in 1 month, i just did ft and you are here seething anon.
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>>584701875
how do you roll off only one line?
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>>584702030
yea that's the confusing part. all the lost ark players itt are obviously prior fans and not playing it/not happy with it but he's still seething about it every single day
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>>584702067
i got lots of odyle energy for you on my dick
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdv6zKsampY

its fucking over
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>>584701330
I would argue that the people who play video games because they enjoy it as a hobby are the ones who keep things positive, not the sexually repressed men in their 40s fighting over who gets to be the sexiest princess.
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>>584702067
arena
nightmare
daily dungeon
abyss
shugo
invasion
gathering/crafting
world bosses
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>>584702161
soulbinding -> sync
costs 1 gold gear to reroll a stat line
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>>584702067
>have 1.2k charged energy
>another 20 x 40 in stones
>done a bunch of runs already to
>ask myself "do I really wanna keep doing this? Is this fun? Or is it just something I do to feel productive?"
>lose motivation to keep grinding
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>>584701038
You're right actually
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>>584702067
do your cubes sis
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>>584702359
what does those 1 % mean
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does this game have any staying power or is it doomed to stagnate? have you made any friends in this game like other MMOs?
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>>584702469
No idea actually
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>>584702469
Synce rate. You can pump those numbers up to increase the bonuses.
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>>584702505
I haven't made any friends here yet
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>>584702170
It's obvious LA has a lot of problems and is in a shit, unplayable state. That guy probably got gatekept out of Vykas and has been seething ever since.
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>>584702578
jewish
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>>584702469
Forgot to add to >>584702578
You can see
>6.3%/7.32%
in the first line. I assume when at 100%, you get the full 7.32%. Yes, it's not that big of a difference if so
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>>584702505
Zero staying power IMO. Abyss PvP sucks ass and is for whales only, endgame is nowhere near to par with other MMOs.
>friends
I haven't even used the chat. And I usually leave any MMO I play with at least 1 or 2 longterm friends. The social side of Aion 2 is legitimately horrible.
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>>584702359
>that cost
uhh cool thanks
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Gearing up to 1400 sucks but having 1 alt is 100% worth it if you got the patience to do all the sealed dungeons and stuff again.
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>>584702851
its not that bad you can use gold gear fodders supposedly these gears will last a while
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>guy that has been botting 10 days ago is still botting, just a different spot now
nice bot detection gooks
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>>584702505
made a few friends yeah
im having fun, stop being antisocial autists
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>>584702627
your own general /lag/ is shitting on it for being a trash raiding game
have some self awareness before projecting raidslop as an insult but then again if you had self awareness you wouldn't be AGP posting on 4chan
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>horn den conquest room reqs are the same as transcendence 3.
the absolute state of my server.
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>>584701330
>bimbos left, they were the only people keeping this thread slightly positive
This. The seething faggots are intent on killing this place until the next fotm mmo, they were already talking about wow(lol).
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>>584703064
The LFG is region wide so it's not just you. That's just the game. I said it before and I'll say it again: people always pull the ladder up behind them in these types of games. That's why they never climb in playerbase, only drop off. In 1 month it will be literally impossible for a new player to run conquest dungeons without a guild carrying them.
But nobody will listen to me.
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>try to gather feathers
>get repeatedly ganked by solo whales that camp them
Must be the most pathetic part of abyss pvp because no one but helpless noobs are farming those atp
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Anyone wanna be my friend in game?
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>>584702851
Psstt. Anon. You can transfer the 4 sub effects to new gold gear. This way, you don't have to suffer from doing it all over again. It's one fucking thing they got right.
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>>584702067
Dios mio…
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>>584703368
server?
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>>584701976
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>>584702170
Oh no not like that
I mean he's coming here to wrinkle our crisp white sheets on our bed that we just made and he expects us to placate him
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>>584700489
I didn't, I rolled +1 on both rings
Crafted a gold chalice arcana for another +1, then got turbocucked on enhancement so that's still just +1
And then I got a gold parchment arcana that enhanced to +3, which broke my PvE attack vigor bonus since it's magic but fuck it
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>>584702652
You can easily upgrade the rate with the books you probably have 1000 of, it can only go up not down, the cost just goes up permanently for that equipment even if you rolled rerolled a stat later.
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>>584703315
>Be the change I want to see
>Make learning group as Cleric for 2100 dungeon
>Add an assassin, no gate keeping first come first serve
>Smooth until 3rd boss
>1 wipe
>These guys bail
They weren't learners they were just looking for a Cleric.
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What if a bunch of anons banded together and rerolled on the same open server tomorrow…
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its almost two weeks of people saying this game will die any moment now
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>>584701976
son you might have schizophrenia or multiple personality disorder
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>>584702067
>do nothing but spam dungeons in a clique with a cleric
>run out
i dont have this problem heheh
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>>584703331
Somehow there was another whale floating around that kept the other whales busy while I gathered it. Lucky me lol
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>>584703646
I.. I'm not sure I can stomach the leveling process all over again. It wasn't really fun nor engaging the first time around and I took my sweet time exploring and trying to enjoy things.
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>>584699732
level 16 dark crush feels like im playing a whole different class. it feels like my shitty diablo build finally got the last piece to work
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>>584702505
server merges before 1 year.
the f2p servers already struggle to kill world bosses 2 weeks after release, and to get enough people to even kill one core in the abyss sieges.
and the population is starting to steadily decline so it's only going to get worse.
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>>584703652
nobody has ever said the game is going to literally die down to 0 players instantly
lost ark managed over 1,000,000 ccu for a month straight, look at it now
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>>584703672
Don't be such a party pooper
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>>584703713
>>584703756
It might truly be over then. I think the server issue is what breaks the camel’s back.
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>>584703315
that's why I just request 70k when forming my 1400 conquests.
I'm 85k+ now but I still just host 70k.
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>>584702227
*pat pat*
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>>584703925
uh ok so when, everything dies, you probably guessed it would be dead by now
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>>584697848
I actually really like Sorcerer gameplay.
It's buff > buff > buff > buff > full charged hellfire > rest on macro > wait for hellfire to cool down and repeat > wait for buffs to cool down and then buff with a max damage hellfire
Playing Sorcerer requires you to understand positioning in order to maximize your dps, kind of like Soldier in Team Fortress 2.
>>584700005
Shitting on the game is fun.
>>584700552
I realized that playing the game is impossible to play as a pure F2P with how restrictive dungeon energy and the kina daily gain limit is.
>>584703652
I said it's going to die in 2.5 months on the day of global launch.
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>>584703652
the game has only been out for 2 weeks and the population is in decline...
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>>584704103
holy fk I thought you died
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>>584704143
if only
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>>584703989
>be me
>go urururuguruuguru canyon pt list
>see faggots requesting 90k+
>I'm 90k
>NoWayFag.jpg
>join a sin at 70k and clear it
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>>584700229
cute...
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>>584703784
do you clear any of the content faster? like do your dungeon runs go faster? or if you weren't looking at a dps meter would you even notice?
even in diablo 2 leveling up my abilities so they go from 6 hits to kill, down to 5, 4... eventually 1-2, and being able to drop the act bosses in 3 seconds instead of 30...
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>>584704072
>uh ok so when
i don't know or care
>you probably guessed it would be dead by now
wrong
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>>584703975
I'm going to personally give you permission to admit to yourself that you just don't find the game as enjoyable as you thought you would. It's okay to be disappointed that something didn't live up to your expectations, you are now free to move on to another game that you will hopefully enjoy.
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>>584702826
I forget what server I'm on but I imagine anyone tryhard enough to go early access is so mentally exhausted by feeling compelled to stay "on pace" they probably achieved their numerical goals and fucked off for mental health
And that's just me assuming ofc
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>>584704143
idk which mmo we're all playing next so i'm just hanging out here until then
>>584704165
jealous
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>>584704103
yeah but you do shit dps so your thoughts on what the combat is are irrelevant. plus you're a pedophile.
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>>584704237
great response retard
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>asmo char gets nemon
>elyos char gets ???
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>>584704261
I enjoy a lot of aspects. The discrepancy in power and poor community/social aspects are really grating though
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>>584704373
ARAGORN, SON OF ARATHORN
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>>584704350
you dont play the game
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>>584704373
the dune guy
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>>584704382
Leave it to Koreans to inflict their way of life on the world
They really are rice pajeets
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>>584704429
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>>584704175
those are people trying to speedclear for achievements but yeah it's dumb as fuck.
I tried just hosting a quick-join party for krao to work on the achievement clears but it took so long because I was the only person who did mechs or damage so I'll never do that again.
I don't know what a good combat power is for people that have done all their side quests though.
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>>584704365
>ummmmm you probably said this thing HUH?
>no
>WOW GREAT RESPONSE
what did you expect idiot
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>>584704382
>social
It still astounds me that they thought it was a good idea to put a 10 limit on unclaimed cubes before lockout. Why the fuck is that even a thing???? Can't even help undergeared legionmates and randoms without getting punished for it
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>>584704232
yes because i am stronger and get to party with stronger people
yes
yes because i spam dark crush like 5 times in 3 seconds instead of once every 15 seconds
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>>584704435
then why do I deal more damage than you?
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>>584702067
ANUS
ANUUUUUUUS
BROWN ASSHOLE
BROWN ANUS ROSE
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>>584704653
proof?
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Everyone outdpses my sin!
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i did a trans1 run, and got some cards
how do i get the chalice?
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>>584704712
You'll get your time to shine! Meanwhile,
>be cleric
>will never have good dps because lol support
>but chanter is fucking OP
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>>584704679
jeet behavior
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>>584704558
I cannot understand why this would be a thing either. it makes no sense at all. you don't get drops if you don't claim the cube so why would you restrict the runs?
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>>584704538
why are you still replying to me dumbass

regardless that you think the game will die (yet not even being brave enough to predict when), it's doing much better right now than most games, so why do you care to say that the game will die but also you dont care when? great logic from a retard
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>>584704785
>Extract junk Arcana for towards filling the progress gauge for a Mysterious Crystal, of which you need 5 to create a lvl 80 Unique Chalice of Vigor.
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>>584704653
>Pedo anon comes on and posts
>Anon has a melty
>Pedo anon doesn't even reply angrily
>Lol I rekt you
This is what happens when you post your paid cosmetics before vindictive European minds
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>>584702067
Why is butts always joining 4chan guilds just to cliquefag with his little group and never interact with the guild.
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So I just extract all the common, green and blue gear I don't use?
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WHAT CLASS IS ACTUALLY FUN TO PLAY???
IS THERE ANY CLASS THAT HAS ANY THOUGHTS WHILE PLAYING???
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>>584704953
Yep. Golds always for morbing time unless you wanna xfer stats to another gold.
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>>584704785
>>584704863
the season reward for clearing different tiers of trans gives u crystals too. and you can buy one from the shoot if u need the chalice boost right away
>>584704953
yes or save them for xp for ones you want to level. it gets really expensive when going from 3->4 or higher though.
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>>584705001
No
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>>584705001
No, they're all pretty much reactionary and don't require much thought.
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>>584704815
i never said the game will die or that i care about that. all i did was reply to your post saying "people have been saying this game will die any moment now for two weeks" contesting that nobody ever said that (people are instead saying it has no staying power)
you've been seething at me in response trying to get me to defend things i never said

in short you are stupid. quiet now
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>>584705001
no because everything is just about attacking 3000 times per second on autofire.
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>leveling alchemy
>buy a bunch of bottles
>ah fuck i'm poor again
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>report bots at one spot
>go to sleep
>see steam post that they banned lots of bots
>the same bots I saw yesterday are still farming at the same spot
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>>584704950
Thats butts? Haven't seen him in a while.
>>584702067
Hi butts. Hope you got your confrontational issues under control.
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>>584705001
Fun is subjective so idk but none of them require any thought whatsoever it's all braindead macro all the way down
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>>584705371
Those are just regular chinamen
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>>584700160
Sorry anon, if you asked a few days earlier...

>>584705001
You have a lot of thoughts while playing sin! Mostly suicide.
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>>584705001
assassin has to back attack if you count that as thinking...
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>old man nipple visible in cutscene
>old man nipple not visible on in game model
SHOW ME THE OLD MAN NIPPLE YOU COWARDS
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>>584705545
I still haven't gotten this bottom piece in the closet despite running canyon so many times. RNG spites me
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>>584704803
Clerics are keeping up with me at 2.1... dps class??
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Have you guys tried mixing the witch hat with any of the in game gear?
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>>584705726
But they're at the bottom of the dps chart..
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Do bots just know when cubes spawn or are they just flying around the whole map on repeat but there's 10000 of them so it just looks like every spot is taken?
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I like my orc. Say something nice to her.
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>>584705545
It's over ;_;
I still remember your tierlist...
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what are the chances I get banned if I RMT?
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>>584705823
They aren't a DPS you fucking retard
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>>584705848
I'm sure you come from a very fine swamp, very good with a spear.
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>>584705095
>>584705181
>>584705309
>>584705457
>>584705545
>>584705557
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF DIFFERENT CLASSES THEN?
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>>584705968
Well the fuckin bots arent getting banned
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>>584706040
Very slightly different visual flair and convincing the mooks who play this longterm that they're actually human beings with free will
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Reminder
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>>584706040
Your fashion is your identity
Your wallet is your damage limit
Your class is your damage baseline
Yes this is Korean game design when monetization is involved
It annoys me because koreans usually have good ideas when money isn't a priority
But money is a priority here
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Should I bind my healing skills to my macro as a cleric?
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>>584706327
4 heads a day is plenty for me. I don't even want to fap more than once a day.
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I think they like me!!!
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>>584706040
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>>584706428
Nah
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>>584706428
the hot has a 30s cd with 30s uptime right? that one is in my macro.
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Crazy how rotation is simply holding down button, but staying out of the fire and positioning yourself is pretty unforgiving and needs you to be quick about it
Especially hilarious when stuff 1-shots you, and there is peer pressure to use resurrection stones (that are quickly running out) to pop back
Can even have the server hang up for 5 seconds and die, haha
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>mine shit
>keeps giving me green and blues when I need whites
>go to craft shit
>nonstop whites
Dogshit ass game.
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>>584706336
the fuck all the armor is the same though there is no class identity and everybody is just wearing the same cash shop outfits that lets their tits and ass hang out, or they don't give a fuck and just wear the default armor and look like a bot.
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>>584705971
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>>584704281
>idk which mmo we're all playing next so i'm just hanging out here until then
Let me know as well. I want to be part of the perma mmo group where everyone knows each other and brings their drama into a new general.
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>>584706327
Dunking on midgets with my superior 9.5 heads
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>>584705745
those cosmetics are such a crapshoot
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>joins EU servers
>suddenly becomes a sad sack of shit
whoa...
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>>584706847
>brings their drama into a new general
You don't need to be a part of a group in order to do this, you only need to be mentally ill
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>>584707043
I blame Russians and chinks. They feel the need to drag everyone down to their level
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>>584706953
The hat doesn't fit the armor aesthetic the game has going for it. Even the casual stuff doesn't fit.
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>>584705001
As a Spiritmaster I've already noticed a lot of potential things you can do with the Jointstrike skills, they animation cancel your spirit attacks, which is quite long for Wind and still saves time on Ancient. There's also the fact that stats are snapshotted at the time they are summoned, so if you time it right it's probably better to use only 1 pet than spam them, more so if we had more cooldown to keep Ancient up for the Descent passive, I haven't even been resummoning my Wind Spirit anymore since if I do it with level 20 Benediction it has 45% PvE damage/reduction stat for the rest of it's life, and when it comes off cooldown it another temporary 45%.
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So what's the upcoming content? All we have is the 2100 dungeons and Transcendence
dungeons but they just because a bigger dps check and everything hurts.
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>>584707643
There is no upcoming content
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>>584706735
Thr armor is not the same
The visual pool is yes but there's a pretty solid amount of designs that feel unique to this IP I think
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>flag myself for pvp to help fight some asmos dicking around near our hub
>can't unflag for an hour
>get 2 shot by a whale 5 minutes after
yea I'm never flagging for pvp again this is retarded
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>>584707470
is this why spiritmaster is at the bottom of the dps because people think they should be doing anything but holding their macro on that class?
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>>584706735
>everybody is just wearing the same cash shop outfits that lets their tits and ass hang out
I'm not on an early Access server
Even I can tell you 30 dollars of TnA is faster than [unlocking all the cosmetics]
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Join OnlyFeet on Israel Europe
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>>584707725
I mean there's no templar set, or assassin set, or sorcerer set... it's the same armor on every class...
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>>584707948
This
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>>584707760
>Pvping in a gàme where power is determined by money and time
If you have a day job I'm sorry but you should know the game is rigged
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>hit a new low in the steam charts
its over...
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>>584708130
>new low
>It's not even lower than maintenance hour numbers
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>>584708070
personally I'm looking forward to the 'why is pvp so dead :(' posts
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>>584707793
What does holding the macro do on Spiritmaster retard, if you do cast Jointstrike at the wrong time it's just a damage loss, especially for Ancient which stops basic attacking to generate your Elemental Fusions, if you don't have Corrode on your Destructive is just doing less damage, the only thing Curse even does is lower the damage you take by 10% otherwise, the damage isn't even on your DPS chart.
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>>584707441
yeah. this looks alright, lewd robes and a big hat obscuring face
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>>584707975
True.. everyone can wear everything except males can't wear female clothing and vice versa
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>Haven't logged on in 3 days now
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I'm not gonna lie bros, I don't want to grind the pets to level 3. How much combat power will I be missing by ignoring them, and simply using hidden cubes for cogni?
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if you have this above your head it means that your only good for _______.
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>>584708130
So far it's just been around like -5k players from the previous day's peak. I wonder if it's going to be a continual decline like this going forward or if it's going to have a much sharper decline in the future.
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Surely the anons whining that whales have beaten the game in their server 2 weeks in while also pointing out that early access servers are able to clear content that free servers can't while also whine that the game doesn't have enough content for an MMO, arent the same people
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>>584706327
Science bby
I accidentally nailed it
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>>584708714
theres only game systems in place that make players quit unironically.
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right its getting to the point where doing random group transcendence runs feels like a waste of time.
People come in fresh, messing up constantly even at lvl2. No communication.
Someones always pissing themselves and leaving. I had 3 leavers in a row. At the start of the evening.
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>>584708669
I still dont know why they made this skill not stack with chanter's
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>>584707975
Just don't wear metal on your non metal character
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>>584708665
10 might pets = 1% damage. So if there's at least 40 might pets, you'd be missing 4% damage. Same with precision, etc.
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>>584708669
if you have this floating above your hand it means you are a part of the STRONGEST and COOLEST class in the GAME.
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>>584708813
Which tier are you on, anon? I'm not very good but I'll at least stay.
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>>584708665
random pet chests will eventually get your pets up
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>>584708714
if they do a massive bot banwave, that was the only time lost ark had massive drops.
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>>584708665
Don't do it bro. Just be yourself.
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Why can't I just grind enemies for 30000 hours
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>>584708665
just do ascension trial
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>>584709102
Nothing says you can't.
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>>584709102
because there's an energy system on everything.
that's why they implemented poe/diablo itemization but without the poe/diablo playtime.
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>>584709163
kina cap does
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>>584709102
maplestory classic soon
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>raidtards quitting because the endgame loop isn't for them

Wew good riddance
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>>584709264
endgame loop is so bad that even fucking koreans can't handle it
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>>584709239
How long does it take to cap?
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>>584708254
Even if it's true you can't discount the sick fucks who rushed the highest tier content and are done until the next update
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Thoughts?
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>>584709353
not that long if youre really esporting it. maybe 30 minutes
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>>584709339
koreans are quitting everything not named lineage 2 and maplestory I don't care what mindless grinders think is a good endgame loop
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>>584709339
What is the endgame loop because fire temple and the other one really aren't that hard if you can do transcendence.
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>>584709378
Her back must hurt
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>>584709356
I don't think we're getting a player count bump when they release the raid, I think the opposite will happen when people get gatekept lmao
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These Koreans sure know how to run a server
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>>584709401 (Me)
I play chanter btw idk if that matters
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>>584709378
would
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>>584708430
>Hat obscuring face
That would have to be a silly face
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>>584709102
I managed to find a way to grind 300k kina/hr, the chink devs were afraid of autists like me grinding for 70 hours straight and amassing millions.
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>>584709378
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>>584709545
bro I made 300k kina in 10 minutes like an hour ago
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>>584709378
VAM ass shaders
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you can make better looking characters in modded skyrim and the fashion is nearly endless + free
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>>584709624
f2p players basically get nothing in dungeon energy which is why the kina daily gain limit was implemented, to ensure no f2p ever gets more than the devs want
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>>584709435
you are already in it.
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>>584709356
That's their prerogative. Swiping to finish the game faster just means the game is so shit, they rather pay to have it be done with.
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>>584709774
I got that while farming pets
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>>584708873
eh i dont mind it since it just means that i get to slot more damage/heals
if i had to guess its to stop chanter + cleric from being mando in all content for best clear times
>>584708925
im unironicly jealous of the hand and feet runes...
what did ncsoft mean when they dangled balls above my head and gave runes to the other support.....
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>>584709789
Well my end game is helping other anons gear up
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Intense doomposting today, bros. I’m officially demoralised after getting gaped by several whales as well.
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>>584709813
oh you dont play the game
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>>584709880
WoWFags are bored until their nostalgia bait comes out
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>>584708942
Eh im doing Tier2 transcendence which made it more puzzling people dont know mechanics.
Also everybody is a diva nowadays and nobody talks.
That was my impression after those first three runs i had one decent run after where we killed the last boss on the second try with nobody breaking out in tears.
Im elyios EU but im joining a guild/legion soon so that should help a lot.
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the day of the rope slowly advances for chanter scum
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>>584709862
Idk about being mandatory. Cleric dps is pretty bad to the point it's better to get another dps than get a cleric + the buff even if it did stack.
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>>584709475
>When people get gatekept
Right as opposed to the nonexistent gatekeeping in current day
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>>584709880
I just picked the wrong class and I don't have the energy to reroll.
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Which one do I take?
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>>584709880
>Bully the bimbos, the only positive force in the general.
>they leave
>Only doomposters feeding each other into a spiral of negativity
this is why you don't let the homo schizo run a general.
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>>584709992
I have over 150k cp. how about you?
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>>584710041
>Im elyios EU but im joining a guild/legion soon so that should help a lot.
Eu chat keeps on bricking and I noticed some rubber banding again
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>>584710148
Nobody but you wanted to sit around and ERP with Indian men and bald niggas, bro
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>>584710079
the difference is that the gatekeeping can largely be overcome today even if it is retarded. you can fairly easily pass the ilvl/cp requirements people set. ludra raid is 2,800 and people will be expecting combat power 200,000 PLUS some other retarded shit completely unobtainable by anyone that isn't a whale
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>>584710148
bimbos left to /trash/ which then moved onto discord. just look at their thread on /trash/
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>>584710240
>EU servers shitting themselves this early into the server maint
>NAW will probably have the same issues soon
FUG
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>>584709763
But then you would have to play skyrim.
>But you can mod it
It's still noticably Skyrim. Even with that 400gb mod collection that supposedly does a major overhaul of the gameplay.
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>>584709794
>I hate the game so much ill pay several thousand to beat it
Who would do this as opposed to quitting
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>>584709880
I wanted to see for myself how bad the power gap can get for myself and it's worse than I thought. I literally do like 1 or 2 damage vs some people in pvp so there's no point engaging with that content at all.
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It's always morally correct to bully buttons and his friends into silence
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>>584710340
A shame, I like them but I don't want to fall down the discord grooming hole.
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>>584710148
I'd rather people earnestly talk about the game, good or bad, than have it constantly be off-topic ERP and avatarfagging. If you only want recognizable avatarfags and positive discussion, maybe reddit is more your speed lil guy.
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>>584710424
Whales can be very dumb
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>>584710106
you take the blue candy and you'll forget all of this and wake up living your life like normal
you take the red candy and you get a dps buff
the yellow candy? you get that one for free because I'm feeling a little zesty
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>>584710318
>people will be expecting combat power 200,000 PLUS some other retarded shit completely unobtainable by anyone that isn't a whale
Oh so it's vindictus but the whale doesn't even get to carry?
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>>584710064
NOT AS BAD AS ASSASSINS THOUGH HEHEHEH
this was a very mobile boss so bad backshot uptimes but i thought it was funny
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>>584710480
There is no earnest talk though, just endless bitching and if you provide a rebuttle, they go een harder on the bitching
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Changed my macro and now I'm getting 64kdps on a minute at the Training Dummy
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>>584710460
stop talking about yourself and your humiliation kink, bro
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can someone tell me which skills to put as gladiator on macro?
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>arena of cooperation
>its actually just about which team has the whale
It’s over
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>>584710613
>There is no earnest talk though
I see plenty
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>>584710582
This is why Templar + assassin = great synergy. Assuming both players of the classes know how to do their role.
>Templar holds aggro and face fucks the boss
>sin does a backdoor entry and busts load after load into the boss' ass
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>>584710650
I'm not your buddy, pal
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>>584710582
>13k less cp
>same dps
idk seems like bottom guy is just a skill issue, second one is doing fine though.
and chanter is dishonest.
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REMINDER TO ZIKEL FUNALLOWED AND NEZEKAHN NOFUNALLOWED MEMBERS

we will be having a cross guild meetup in a little over 23 hours from now! the location is here in altgard, elyos will need to rift. be careful on your way there. make sure none of you are flagged, ideally do this around 30m to an hour before actually entering as it takes time to unflag. if you die inadvertantly within the first 10 minutes, you can run back into the rift again no big deal. the real photo will most likely be at 5:15 EST.
around 20-30m before the scheduled meetup time I will make a dungeon group for krao cave to coordinate the photos with elyos side.
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>>584710480
80% of this thread is ragebait
this post is ragebait
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>>584710797
>chanter
im a cleric thoughowever?
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I'm hoping assassins make a comeback. Too many western goy tubers shat on them for easy views and now everyone thinks they're worthless. Gladiators and rangers are just as bad but with better pr.
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>>584710808
>80% of this thread is ragebait
That's just /vg/
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>nooooo don't call my shallow mobile game mmo pay to win!!!
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>pro 30
>craft 13 greens
>only 1 blue
Nice "25%", gooks.
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>been looking at an average combat power of classes
>clerics always seem to be massively lower than any other class
?
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>>584709239
If you have the time to hit the Kina cap you have the time to make like 2 or 3 alts at which point you will never hit the Kina cap again since it resets daily. You'll also stop crying about any lack of expedition energy.
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>>584711053
They're deemed useless heal sissies only good for post-dungeon stress relief
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>>584710103
this is me too. I don't know if rerolling will make the game interesting again though I think the gameplay is just too shallow for it to be interesting.
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>>584711165
already did
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>>584710932
Who doesn't call aion pay2win?
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>>584711053
>weapon has lower attack and other stats
>why does this class have lower combat power?
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>>584711053
We have half the dps in solo dungeons. There was thattwitter clip of a chanter insta dashing 1 tapping the abyss stuff that gives a boat load of points. Clerics get half of that, therefore half the stigmas therefore half the combat power.
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>level ranger to 45
>don't like it + getting gatekept out of parties for not being giga tryhard day 1 no lifer + for my class sucking
>level sin
>lol
>then spiritmaster
>it's braindead and also shit DPS with no burst
>level glad
I've accepted that I simply made all the wrong decisions and got filtered by not hardcore optimizing my experience before even playing the game.
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>>584711278
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>584711278
TRY PLAYING ASSASSIN
YOU CANT GET FUCK FOR BACK ATTACK UPTIME CAUSE THE BOSSES AGGRO YOU
WE SHOULD HAVE A CLONE THAT CAN DRAW AGGRO
FUCK DUDE
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>>584711053
yeah you're just there to buff, heal, and res, not provide meaningful dps.
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>>584711053
>5 classes dedicated to dealing damage
>One class literally not dedicated to dealing damage doesn't deal damage by comparison
Shocker
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>>584711338
Yeah this shit.
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>>584711260
What are you talking about retard, Assassin daggers have the same attack as Cleric mace, there is no other stat difference.
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>>584711338
CHANTERS NEED TO EXPLODE
PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET BALANCED GET BALANCED GET BALANCED GET BALANCED
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My cleric has a massive dong althoughverbeitdesu
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>>584711292
how do you have the energy to reroll that many times?
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>>584711424
Sin daggers have a lot more crit and some other stat iirc
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why do we have two threads up
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I notice in the dressing room website, there's a slider for shoulder width which doesn't seem to exist in the actual in game creator. Is this something that was removed, or will be added later?
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>>584711420
its fun!
>>584711435
never ever, sorry! we will ALWAYS be NUMBER ONE.
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why the fuck do retards not do coolant in fire temple
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After my server lost to Nez fags last night I can't bring myself to login.
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>>584711186
Pretty x2......
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>>584711535
Hopes and dreams thst maybe things are better elsewhere. It's not.
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>>584711635
the aoes are slow and don't really do that much damage
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Can I start rerolling the soul bind on my urugugu weapon now and transfer the enhancement and soul bind to the fire temple weapon later? Or would that just be a waste of resources?
I really want to get my overhead slam to level 16.
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>>584711846
yes you can
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>>584711635
it takes time when you can just not stand in the AoE that takes 10 seconds to land.....
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>>584711846
oh wait wlel one caveat though is that fire temple weapon has only 3 slots so you would lose one slot on your ugrugugu weapon
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>>584711535
Minmax buildcrafting autism.
>mfw there are no builds and everything plays the same anyways
Probably the thing I hate the most about the game.
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nobody is talking about the real problem of this game which is the loop of farming odyle energy every week. you have to do this every single week btw. you are losing 5 million kina each week. the devs carefully crafted this dogshit system 100 %. if you only buy from the market currently it costs you 5 million kina and if you gather it yourself to craft odyle energy you lose 5 million kinda because you cant sell it.

going by current market price
2299500 + 1600000 + 800000 + 258800 = 4958300 kina

5 million rounded up. thats 20 million kina per month. 240000000 kina per year.

its a literal slave ass game made for subhumans with no impulse and make sure you waste your limited life on these dogshit ASSS fucking systems.
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>>584711635
I dunno but I put the dispel debuff on my heals and assume it does something.
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>>584711947
its literally like 10 extra seconds
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>>584711713
>remember playing some mmo a while back
>pvp battleground
>some sniper dood taking pot shots at people
>decide to chase him down
>he has the ability to put massive distance between me and him any time I get close
>also one shots me
>die
>try again
>die again
>try one more time
>die again
>stacking debuff for all those deaths
>quit, uninstalled
Might as well not play
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>>584711969
You get odyle at end of dungeon and you can fill in the missing bits from the market. It's a net gain at the cost of your time.
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>>584711846
you'll lose a line. you could always just skip the fire temple weapon and transfer to crafted or the future raid weapon instead
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Me and my wife
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Pvp always mindbreaks anons I've noticed, you niggas aren't built for this
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>>584711969
>16 pure odyle per week
Trying to gather this yourself is pure humiliation ritual.
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>>584711969
I play these kinds of games to enjoy my limited life :3
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>not allowed to endlessly farm dungeons with shitty energy
>do mining/crafting to pass the time instead
>some nigger just walks up to you and starts calling you a bot for no reason
This is why the game is designed like shit. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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how are you guys not sitting on 70 pure odyle
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>>584712137
do crafted items have 5 lines? my fire temple shit only has 4
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>>584712152
Cute hamster
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>>584712251
>farm resources
>don't use them
whoa!
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>spent 4k quna to get the character select idle pose i want
its kinda crazy whales pay 60 bucks for this...
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>>584712281
fire temple has 3 lines...
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>>584712323
why arent you crafting your odyle energies every week?????
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what is the best hip height?
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>>584711754
fuck I hate my Spiritmaster and want to reroll but every time I open the game and think about both of these facts I just close it again before logging into the server.
>>584711968
yeah the game really doesn't seem very deep at all and it's very disappointing.
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>>584712192
I love PvP but I can't stand someone being able to pay to have an advantage over me in it yea.
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>>584711969
You get 20 million kina / week by just selling shit
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>>584711969
I personally don't really care doing gather slop in order to do dungeons. It just makes no sense on why that there's a weekly limit of how much you can craft of this shit.
I'd be doing entire days of just gathering odyle if I needed, but these korean devs don't even want me to stay logged in playing the game to do that.
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I guess the subscription really pays for itself
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Where is the thread for the people who still like the game at?
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>>584712678
reddit
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>>584712678
its right here!
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>>584712414
extra line at 100% soulbound...
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>>584712678
There's a chat box in the game
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>>584712678
This is it. But the people enjoying it are playing. The negative people are weary after seeing how things are after reaching cap and getting sent a checklist of things to do.
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>>584712414
am i retarded or what
i see 4
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should i farm abyss?
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>>584712950
Think they're referring to the weapon. Weapon has increased range at the cost of a line
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>>584712678
the game is right there...
why would you post here if you can play it instead....
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>>584712950
the weapon specifically

>>584712797
every gear has that, so it would be like saying other dungeon gear has 5 lines and crafted has 6
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>>584712678
talking ingame
sucks for you
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>>584711969
>limited dungeon runs based on mobile game tier stamina system
>get more by gathering and crafting
>compete with bots at nodes as f2p
>or forced to swipe and deal with rmt economy
It really does feel like every system in this game is designed to be as obnoxious as possible.
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>>584712963
Do you want to get nyerked in the ass?
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>>584712192
The pvp in this game just sucks ass and was designed by idiots for idiots.
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>>584712678
you're going to have to wait a while for it to be just whales posting here
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>>584689830
most gladiators aren't using it due to being told to use zikels blessing by """content creators"""
they should be using wave armor when there's no templar, and lifestealing blade when there is one
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>>584712872
Fair lol, I guess once I log in I usually don't even post here unless its about siege or attention whoring my character.
>>584713073
Is like 12 hours a day not enough!!!
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>>584711872
>>584711965
>>584712137
Would it be a better choice to work on my vakron guard instead? It seems like the horn den guard also has 4 slots.
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Do any of the shoes have really long socks, or stockings? Or is that always reliant on the bottom instead?
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Nyehehe
1st try
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WAIT WAIT WAIT
HOLD ON
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOUR LMB AUTO ATTACK ON YOUR RMB MACRO??? SO I SHOULD ONLY BE HOLDING RMB????
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>>584713564
no
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>>584713441
bottom dependent...
your only choices are the shugo fes pants or witch skirt i think....
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>>584713564
no
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>>584713439
that's what I did since guards and weapons can roll the same stats. then I went for the fire temple weapon afterwards since I was still using the msq weapon
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preggers
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>>584711969
this system exists so that people buckle and buy the sub to get market access so they dont need to farm it themselves aka swiping ; )

intended korean mechanic
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>>584713564
Yes?
>set macro
>have it do mp regen attack
>then have it do mp consuming attack or whatever other stuff
>plus whatever other stuff you wanna add
>set rmb to macro
>hold rmb during combat so you can focus on boss mechanics/party/nyerking off/whatever
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>>584709862
the runes are super cool I agree they add a lot of character to playing chanter do re ni shi you ka na~
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>>584691147
>every boss
useless data
look at T4 trans and horny den / fire temple only, picture is much different
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>>584713596
>>584713617
>>584713762
I'll trust the one guy saying yes and giving some sort of explanation for it..
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>>584713892
no idiot just hold left click and macro
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>>584706327
i'm a bit over 8
pretty good
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>>584713892
Do it right and you should be weaving (seeing shadowy apparitions carrying out your attacks)
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>>584713892
He's wrong, just try it on training dummy, you run out of mana because it doesn't get used properly, you have to hold it separately
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>>584713475
Congratulations!!
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>>584713475
EXPLODEEEEEEEEEEE grats
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>>584712414
so dungeon weapons are useless and you must have a crafted one? what the fuck?
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>>584706327
6 head reporting in
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>>584711338
MY class...
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>>584714306
the range increase is better than another line of stat
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>>584714347
OUR class.
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>>584713375
I've been back and forth on training dummies as my glad develops and at this point, I get more damage overall out of Lifestealing Blade's initial attack + predation than zikel's blessing
Against actual bosses it's less because of the melee tax, especially tanking, but then I'm essentially getting an extra half mil in damage from party predation so it works out again

>hey should be using wave armor when there's no templar
Is that a rank 20 thing for the reflect? Doesn't look worth it at a glance before then
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Join ElyosAdultbabyGods Nutsackin server pw: bagsofdicksforfree
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>>584714494
No, I'm claiming you. Sorry.
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>Literally just watched a video about macros and the guy says to put in the light attack into the macro
>thread says no
just tried it myself now and just holding the macro + lmb works better, fuck all these dogshit guides.
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>>584714408
whats the most optimal weapon then
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>>584714551
That is so fuckin tvff
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GARTUA IN 15 MINUTES
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I zoomed in again...
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>>584714653
lots of guides are blatant aislop
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>>584714717
we lost another lonely anon...
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If you swoop in and start gathering from a node someone is already on you should be executed via firing squad in real life
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>>584714306
crafted for any slot is bis, but do you really want to pay 80m for an 80m weapon with an extra line that you may or may not have the sync stones to roll well? personally I'm settling on dungeon gear because I don't care about minmaxing damage when content is this easy
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>>584714828
it doesn't have your name on it
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>>584714828
nyehehe our node now.
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Got something good
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>>584714828
you looked like a bot
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>>584714845
Big anal butts like this are ruining our video games
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>>584714004
If he tries it on a training dummy he will know that its right though since he won't run out of mana...
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>>584714845
Thank you for this i totally forgot about gartua today
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>>584713564
nyo. you're supposed to hold rmb+lmb to do an animation cancel.
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>>584715013
So does big boobs
>>584715078
You're welcome
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>>584714985
fix your makeup you look like a clown



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