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rate the new nyontents out of 10
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>>584732152
i'm going to suggest future runs include a recurring dungeon that we're allowed to use the helper adventurer in
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>>584732152
3 out of 10 see me after class
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>>584732328
Version upgrading to 2.0 the same time they added a way to borrow characters seems to speak to them wanting to do that.
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>>584732152
7
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>>584732152
pretty mid ngl, battlefront mogs the kingdom defense shit.
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>Malice, Sand Shadow, Oni
I need the skill codexes from these shops are the grinds for all of them equally terrible?
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Is the stronghold defense shit supposed to have infinity amounts of hp?
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>>584732152
GAY FAGGOT SHIT out of 10, I emerged from my farming cave, beat Sundering in 20 minutes, didn't pull either character, and went right back to farming
Wake me up when Garbage, Yuzu alt, or a BTDE saves the game
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>>584732603
I honestly prefer castle
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>wheel to geuzen fight to get my monthly sanc blessing book
>don't get it afterwards
What
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>>584732152
7/10 with room for improvement. The fights for this first wave are kinda lame and easy. Helper adventurers and prestige contest are cool mechanics that should stay.

There needs to at least be a combined vanquish points reward to bring all 4 areas together.
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>>584732861
Press Defend, and be amazed
>>584733092
I'm not sure if quest rewards share the 21 to 35 day timer but I think they do, maybe you're on the later side
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>>584733231
I didn't even get anything that turned to dust though, nothing at all after I went back to the guild
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>>584732690
Malice has a dispatch, just do that unless you're able to farm Neo Malice already.
Sand Shadow is annoying to farm with the layout, oni is comfy.
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>>584732047
I made this image and I did it with chatgpt using the prompt "turn the character on the left into the character on the right"
why aren't you anti-AI folk getting upset yet
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Benis
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>still seething nearly 24 hours later into the next thread
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>>584733274
Nevermind I think it just autoskipped so fast I didn't even hear the sound
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benis
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Investing into Bamboo Splitter lvl 3 should be top priority for my MC samurai right?
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>>584733630
I could tell from the shitty job it did at texturing her leotard, but I assumed OP saved it from somewhere else and didn't know.
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>>584734471
It's a waste. MC's job is chrono spam.
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>>584734471
Unless you're struggling with something right now, I'd hold off since that's a high skill book investment that could get rendered a poor decision within ~6 months.
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>>584734471
Nah. Bamboo splitter isn't futureproof, it'll get powercrept by some other skill. Just save.
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>>584734471
It depends on what you're doing and what you need it for. it definitely helps with bosses and is the main source of damage against whale dragon right now.
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Post Knights!
On the fence about Ari. I don't really need two knights especially if the coliseum is never coming back.
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>>584734925
I am mostly farming and trying to push through A4. It would be nice to have my MC do a lot more damage at all times. If ranger CC or Healer CC is coming I guess I'd just need to dodge another busted skill at level 80.
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>>584735083
zam nice lion kwo (knotted warped one)
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>>584681443
>Why bother mentioning that Aria protects defensive liabilities as if every other knight doesn't also do that? I don't see what Aria specifically does that makes her worth using over general knights like Elise and Clarissa. Any fight that only pressures one row is probably very easy anyway, so her Bastion skill is useless, and Saint Guard's activation rate is abysmal.

Because Aria's unique ability STACKS on top of Knigga Defense. Also alt elise only protects one singular character that must be neutral and directly front/back. The reason Aria is considered top tier in the endgame is specifically for superboss content, where you will be bringing a KD knight and Aria to spam the row defend.

Damagebrained retards don't get it because they don't push act content on release, never do superbosses until they are a full act ahead, and probably don't even have more than 1 knights cloak.

The medica demon and dragon both hit rows for lethal damage unmitigated every turn. Aria also trivializes farming the odachi superboss since he can only target first row.
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>>584735326
you probably dont need it but its a lot of damage. my BBS2 surety hits for 3600x2 and BBS 3 for 5000x2
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>could have gotten an actual evil woman
>get another boring autist
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>584736096
I got 2 and it feels pretty good. I'll just wait for now.
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I just remembered I have a second normal Shelie, which is better between disc or skill?
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>>584736217
probably D1 then skill then D2
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>>584735083
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>>584736217
How her skill works is
>~60% of the time a hit is coming that'll do a bunch of damage to her it rolls a check so see if she dodges and can use it again or reduces damage and can't be used again that battle
Each skill level increases the odds of dodging by either 5% or 10%
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>>584736858
that's a lotta hp
why not eva max with her?
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>>584735083
Based Galba enjoyer, mine is not as invested but I might go all in on his alt
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>>584735083
I also have an ungeared lvl70 debra,redbrick,Eulalia
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>>584736887
Huh? I just used her in copper exam and she gazed in the future twice against necore
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>>584736858
>ASPD 109
That's one fast Knigga
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>>584735083
I like evasion tank Debra

Savia has more damage output but Debra hits higher evasion and autotaunts on counterattack with Galb shield.
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Who is actually the best regular thief? My linaria died and I took all the bondmates off my MC so he cant open shit now. I realize how bad I need a farming thief even if they do no damage.
Amelia has the discipline for trap disarm and evasion but is she actually the best opener?
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposters
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>>584737441
Regular as in general? Milana
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>>584737493
why?
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>>584737371
How do you even get those numbers damn
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>>584737624
Elves are the best chest openers because of racials and she has 10% to one evil dude and herself. Her inh is also ass so its no big deal to merge her.
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>>584737060
When I was running the sword fiend I had better luck with def stacking, and I like the GB
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>>584737782
her inherit being ass makes her a favorite for tag dismissing tho
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>>584735083
My gata. I'm also working on Aria too.
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>>584737645
Dagger + shield means you can stack a fuckton more passive evasion than 2 hander
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>>584737441
Amelia, because the only thing thief does is open chests. No thief can do damage. Of course a ninja or ranger is good enough to open chests anyway so "best" thief is like saying least prone to crime beastfolk.
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>>584737441
Amelia! You can CC to fighter and still open chests and do damage.
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>a fucking ebon to 20
Enough evasion to dodge intelligence itself...
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>>584737441
I'd argue for Heinrico, since he has a passive that's actually useful in combat and he can hit the disarm cap for current content even without a disarm discipline.
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>>584738143
This setup was specifically for farming the odachi superboss with line cover spam.
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>>584737971
>>584738086
>>584738201
I literally just need a female to open chests and hold a bow. They can do zero damage they will likely never even get to take a turn.
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How do you make Rinne do dmg in boss fights or big single targets? I'm using two Daggers but the dmg feels kinda low.
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>>584738201
Also he's the only black guy.
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>>584738323
he is also less popular than elf-mag.
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>>584735083
One anon is using Debra as an eva tank but pure defense isn't bad either. Going to replace her with Aria though once she hits level 70 since her luck is higher.
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>>584738276
Amelia then. Put her in back left. You get a zoom on her boobs on bow attacks.
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>>584735083
I'm currently leveling up Ari but Red Brick was my main knight whenever I needed one. When is someone datamining the chance for Ari's passive to work when inherited?
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>>584738437
That doesn't mean anything, so is Flut
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>>584738313
The whales use hairpins otherwise Ninjato dts and bow thief do just enough that her damage isnt completely non existent despite her noodle arms
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>>584733231
>Press Defend, and be amazed
Huh? Is this like that one meme mimic fight where openings do like ten times dmg?
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>>584738927
>Ninjato dts
What's that?
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>>584739108
Decisive torso strike a move you get from bugen inherit.
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Can someone explain how these cover skills work? Should I level them up on Aria with the scrolls I got from knight cave?
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>>584738491
I don't think anyone beats rngr yuzu. Those things are huge in the close up.
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>>584738437
>alex the most ugly fucker around mogs flut, galina, and the dreaded elf mag, the ABOUSOLUTE state
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>>584739647
His name is Alex!
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>>584739459
I mean your wrong but its hardly fair when berk exist
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>>584739647
Alex's cool when he keeps the helmet on.
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>>584735682
>lion
>knotted
Its barbed you uwo (uneducated warped one)
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>>584732152
i liked the 2 new cuties
>Sheli
very smoochable. i really wanted to get her og unit but never came home
>Aria
her blocking animation feels so fucking good when it procs. also she's very smoochable too
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>>584739647
Gerulf at 12th place fighting for a damn alt give my dwigga a bone JD
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>this cute goblin foodie is in the top 10
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>That power gap between 3rd and 4th place
I wonder how many people think that being a leader does something instead of this being a popularity contest?
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>>584740882
Hard to say. The most meta characters are also the most widely appealing waifus.
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>>584739850
>bow
Even then, collab characters shouldn't count
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>>584740882
I gotta admit I thought it did something. Skipped through the dialogue as I was itching for some disappointing new content.
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>>584737934
>that galba shield
O.O
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Bros...
i don't know what i'm supposed to do or what to farm or what i don't know and i feel stupid
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>>584740882
i thought it might have something like battlefront medals for the leader yeah
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>>584741801
Are you endgame or a newer player
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>>584741801
alabaster and church grounds
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>>584741894
played before but only finished the first abyss
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>>584741983
you want 2h weapons on your frontline, +10-15 iron or steel weapons and +10 any decent armor on most of your guys.
You're in the fun part of the game where if you need gear you can farm where you're at and get exactly what you need. Upgrades move the needle a lot and early on just grab any blue items and unify them to +10 for big gains, because the base weapon is much stronger at +10 and those bonuses really don't matter much until the next abyss.
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>>584741907
what's that?
>>584742246
okay. i should use the daybreak to powerlevel my main team or try to lvl other characters? my main team is around 35-40
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>>584742661
just focus on your main team for now. At your level just try to get some +15 weapons and armor in steel and you should rip through it really fast. There's a guide website in the OP if u get stuck.
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>>584740882
I thought there would be multiple teams and multiple leaders so i picked Benis as my 1st team leader. Still would have only chosen Benis anyways. She is a born battlefield noble after all.
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>>584739187
I see thanks
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>>584741060
That only applies to Benis and Yuzu. Lana is UGLY!
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>>584743407
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>>584743407
Benis looks like one of those creepy ass porcelain dolls
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>>584744219
very nice. FAS it i guess?
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>>584744439
I think I have to. Im not sure what stats I really want on it though. I guess flat def/mdef as boring as it is. I wouldn't mind flat aspd either it's nice to go before enemies.
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jesus
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>>584743407
If Lana is ugly explain THIS
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>>584744785
based ninchan enjoyer
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>>584744156
benis
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I think im happy with this? idk would be nice to LFAS flat aspd on here I only do this once.
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>>584742830
Thanks for the help. i'll try to farm that gear
>>584743407
fuck you
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>>584744785
How many generic copies does it take to max out their discipline?
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>>584745724
71
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>>584745024
benis
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5967587964

add me gwos
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Not bad, I'll take it
The mp bonus looks like 15 so thats good too
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>>584745985
benis
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is there any way to salvage an item with low stars? what does "intensity" on gear mean btw? i don't remember this existing when i used to play before
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>>584746643
not really. idk what that is either lol
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>>584746643
merges
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>>584746938
oh i see, just a UI thing then i guess
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>>584743496
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>>584746447
explode
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did they ever bother to fix the PC version or is it still a barely functional phone port?
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>>584747669
it's good u just have to set it to 60 fps and hit alt+enter every time you restart the game lol
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>>584747773
>alt-enter still a thing
still no resolution options i take it?
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Do I want 175 spd with knigga cloak or 190 speed on my dr phil
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>>584747840
It's probably just how you remember it, they never changed anything major
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>>584747948
I mean they did make a1 look really different
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>>584747948
Had some hope coz the phone version seems to run better recently. Guess I won't bother redownloading the PC version. Was hoping for 4k Debra titties.
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>>584748085
I was actually going to say that but it's independent of client based on universal lighting changes after A4, right?
>>584748106
They did change the anticheat, but it was unnoticeable to most people where it always ran fine for them, if you actually had issues with it, try again
>Was hoping for 4k Debra titties.
You can do this but you have to increase your entire Windows resolution (via graphics card fakery or otherwise) and then alt-enter to get it
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>>584736031
>Because Aria's unique ability STACKS on top of Knigga Defense
No it doesn't. None of the active skills or spells that grant damage reduction stack.
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>>584749085
All of them do now, including Ainiggi's DR with the KD patch change.
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aria inherit is her blocking passive or what? i'm not playing rn and can't check
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>>584749806
nta but yeah Aria only took 40 damage with Luminous/KD. no kd was 108
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>>584749806
No, they don't. Only the highest instance of damage reduction is used.
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Im tempted to feed an Aria to my Savia, having a chance to intercept in case someone slips her Black Beast Feint sound good.
maybe i should wait to see how the new inherit thing works (or if for some god forsaken reason, the discord cabal manage to give us some proper numbers for it)
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>>584733630
What do you even want you dumb nigger, you are not even able to draw mspaint tier oc and instead ask ai to do it for you like a soulless bug. Is that what you wanted to hear?
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>>584748106
well the hands and textures are much improved. Not sure when but its all hi def now.
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>>584726509
ill post my shitty edit to celebrate anni with you
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>>584751024
top zozzle
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>>584750684
i seriously doubt its worth to do that
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so if I want to advance to A4 on pontiff/admiral paths do I have to fully clear them with mastermind and everything?
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>>584751287
Pretty sure you just unlock the wheel nodes by climbing up normally, then the flags you unlocked before will carry over and you just adjust them to the ending you want
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Ok i managed to beat the iron grade boss... it was so fucking easy to beat
i had to restart like 13 times trying to get the boss in the right room but never appeared there, in the last attempt i went to the left one and the mfking boss was in the fucking right room. i refused to restart again and clutched it with almost no mana/sp
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>>584752469
Congratulations anon
It's probably still the most fun exam, can't beat hallways with lots of trash while you have nonexistent mana/SP pools
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>>584752623
to be honest, i can't say i enjoyed this one lmao
being ambushed by the lizards or big slimes was awful
also i didn't expected the rogues/archers would decide to go full focus into my Marianne and rekt her 2 times lmao
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*hits belly*
it fit many nyontents
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>>584753014
This game has too much content, I need longer break after the FFXI collab
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>>584753189
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>>584750684
Its low as fuck proc rate but worth it on every knight since it retains the opening when it does proc.
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>>584750684
I bugged AI about this and, assuming inherited Saint Guard gives a 15% to cover, it says that it changes Savia's BBF failure rate from roughly 35% to 30%.
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>>584753482
Can't believed you occupied the glorious AI, now jail abyss is delayed 2 months
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>>584753482
which ai?
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Huuh?? where i'm supposed to unlock level 60?
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>>584753894
idk like halfway into a3?
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>>584754076
oh ty. i'll have to play a2
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Please add me, gwos.
My ID is emUYxmE8VKA1vXYY
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>>584754325
we need the friend code in the tavern delete that it can be used to recover your account
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there's a code the old man can give you or you can go under requests and get your own friend ID, i'm not sure what the difference is
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>>584754429
you also need a password to recover an account. also i don't think that's an ID, player IDs are numbers only
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>>584754429
I thought this was confidential... My ID is 3637705883
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>you're far more... virile than I thought
What the fuck did you mean by that Sheli?
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i will go to sleep and hopefully tomorrow i will get a xmas flut dupe from an anni bone
I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT TO USE HER ALT
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>>584755303
it means she wants you to ravage her ass while she sleeps
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>>584755303
as a ghoul our penis does not function without the help of Ricket's magic viagra
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At what level should I class change Rinne to thief?
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Dance for me~
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>>584756001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoGZNnwJa4
a dude from Reddit has done some compilation of english voice lines
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>>584755914
67
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>>584756168
does it matter these days? doesn't she want to stay on ninjer now with ninjato
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>>584756143
>spoiler
with a community this small most of you are probably there too. I went there sometimes and some of the posts are suspiciously similar at times
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>>584756143
did mightyjacket give up?
>>584756210
Eh bow rinne is a lot easier to build overall way of the thief is way to important to pass up on if you want to stay as ninja.
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>>584756319
yea when I say stay on ninjer I meant in a roundtrip kind of way
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>>584756295
i have 2chan twitter and youtube however
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>>584755520
This impertinent pale elf anus...
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>>584756295
Im banned there for evading.
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>>584756143
a bit raspy. talked lines are too breathy.. eh it could be a lot worse
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>forgot knights also need accuracy
fuck
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>See KD changes
>"Alright, where's my Ainiggi?"
Surely tomorrow I'll remember to replace her with Iroha. At least I can remove her unlike poor Chloe who has been trapped for over half a year.
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>saint guard activates even when aria is paralized
if it activates on other stuff too it'd be kino
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>>584756168
So level 30? I see.
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>>584756934
it's not a zoomer meme
shedding is lvl 67 and holds ninja's entire meta relevance on its back.
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>>584756319
>mightyjacket
he is still post something from time to time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaJ6zvF3Y0Y
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>>584757146
>>584756143
>frobro
>mightyjacket
i recognize these names from the discord
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>>584757073
>it's not a zoomer meme
Sorry I thought an ojisan was trying to be hip with the kids lol. But I'm only on abyss 3 So I'm not in the 60s yet
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>>584756790
>unlike poor chloe
Gwo? Your dutzing?
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>Eng linaria isn't an alchoholic
Total localizer death
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>>584756790
You can replace one of those with any good can't you?
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>>584757541
I actually really like most characters, all the story characters, and especially I LOVE lulunarde in EN.
JP voices are so cliche. I remember how disappointing it was when I found out in japan solid snake sounded like every other samurai male voice actor. And all the girls do that teehee cute shit like every anime ever too it's annoying.
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>>584758240
Same
I only use JP dub on giga weebshit like Persona
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>>584758114
The only option to replace Chloe is Eckart or another Chloe.
The requirements are:
>5 good knights
>3 good fire knights
>6 neutral/good characters
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>>584758240
what does that have to do with the fact that the localization is blatantly erasing parts of the character?
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>>584758240
Sheli's english voice is so horrible it alone made me swap to jap. I didn't mind most of the english voices but you're delusional if you think they're better than jap.
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>>584758556
do you not have a spare eckhart
like 2 trips to the mastery cave should be enough, 3 at worst
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>>584758556
Clarissa?
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>>584758712
There are a few bad ones in English but Chloe and sheli just ride the bench. Seriously if I turn on JP voices and close my eyes it could be any random anime. It's the tone and direction I just couldn't stand it.
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>>584758712
English is better. JP just sounds Ike generic anime.
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I don't understand ENsheli hate, I like it
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>>584757384
Don't class change then, wait till 70. Rinne final class depends on how many hairpins you have though, without hairpins she's better with a bow to spam the row nuke as thief.
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>>584749806
>>584750185
I tried stacking aegis bash(Fighter Lana)+KD(Elise). It seems like that pairing will not work (Lana full of damage reduction passives is a poor choice for testing it).
>no reduction:469
>aegis: 298-310
>kd+aegis: 266
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New sword is amazing on my Chloe. I wish I had more than 1. I am actually tempted to get second from 100 rolls. Got two new lady knight and 2 Adams from 100 rolls. Like two last tens were almost all nameless adventurers.
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>>584758934
she do sound a bit like of a cunt, but by her lore she kinda is, so it fits.
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Sheli pees in her sleep
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Some Sheli voice lines that I like
>I just... woke up.
>So sleepy

Some Sheli lines I do not like
>PFRLRLLTTT
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>>584759868
And you pee in your bed. You should get married and rest in piss.
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>>584759931
>hating the bored raspberries
But those are the best of her
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>>584759598
What about just kd.
Also how much sword damage can get boosted by various skills and spells.?
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I never rolled for sheli. I really didn't like her whole persona and look of bored slut.
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>>584760378
Sheli is pure. Being molested while sleeping doesn't count as sex, she's virtually a virgin.
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>>584732047
adventurer for this feel?
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>>584760443
She took hundreds of barbarian dicks
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Played like 10 hours today and did a bunch more shit with Aria.
>D2 lvl 5 saint guard
I went straight from 2-5 guard. It's something that happens quite a lot and definitely makes everything more comfy
The free openings are also pretty insane. Especially on bosses.
It's really hard to say if the gacha boots help much. They seem to a little.. maybe like 5% more often?
Overall she's great in her niche but needs some investment. Unfortunately even though her skill reads like abenius she doesn't seem to trigger more often at the start of battles for like guaranteed defense. It can be a bit swingy but when it pops off a lot it helps bigly.
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>>584760651
Savia, Amelia
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>>584760292
>What about just kd.
I grabbed a different, non-passived character, with roughly the same defence. Iroha took 271 damage from the same attack. So Aegis bash definitely wasn't stacking on Lana.
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>>584760778
I'm at d1 lvl3 guard, do you think I should improve it further ? Did you see a marked improve ment ?
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How are you supposed to get 10k in stronghold event? Is your score based on how fast you kill?
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>>584760651
Adventurer for this feel?
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>downing 10+ relicbrews
LET ME BULK DRINK DAMMIT
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>>584760982
Maybe it's bug. Report to dreadcum?
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>>584751024
Kek
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yoyo minor anon here been lazy
found lvl1 numbers for Arianaute
20% chance to trigger
100 fixed damage reduction
there is also a 5 param referenced but idk wtf it does
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>>584762667
>minor
MODS
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>>584762667
>fixed damage reduction
Fuck im BRICKED
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Still waiting on that Bibi alt.
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>>584763037
Bibi ana
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>>584762667
Is this on inherit?
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>>584763080
美々穴...
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>>584762667
oooo anything on higher levels?
appreciate the work
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>>584763184
>my tinder date when I walk in
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fixed reduction isn't actually that bad, they might release yuzu, but enemy where they do 8 hits of 150 damage
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>>584763095
mmmmnyo, inherit is -30 damage 5% chance
>>584763174
lvl7 on Aria is 35% chance for -200 damage
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>>584763674
>inherit is -30 damage 5% chance
hyperinvestment niggas in shambles
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>>584763674
also that lvl 7 isn't actually that impressive lol, how's lvl 3? the middle ground?
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>>584763784
Fellow lvl3 haver, I wanna know too
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>>584763674
So it's just flat damage? Damn that sucks. Why does Aria feel so tanky then?
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>>584763784
>>584763860
-130 25%
ergo +5% chance for -30 damage if you compare it to level 1
in other words, the difference is the same as lvl1 inherit
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>>584764001
Because -100 damage is actually a lot when your HP is topping out somewhere around 600 or so unmerged. And also doesn't it make her defend on top of that? So you are getting the defend bonus(which is probably taking effect first) too.
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>>584737441
Actually it's Olive/Dino for being elves with detect discipline. Amelia is better if chests stay easier like in abyss 4, since she makes the unlocking a bit more comfy, but if they go back to hard chests like in abyss 3 she'll be too dumb to even get the mini game. There is a reason some gwos ran mages for chest opening back then (or stopped bothering altogether).
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Commander Chloe.
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>>584764145
ooooooo that's... actually pretty damn good value at lvl3. Thank you mwo
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>>584739459
Gwo your own team disproves your statement. Everyone of them is bigger then Yuzu. Also Olive is severely underrated
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>>584740882
>"m-metachads aren't most of the p-player base, it's waifufags!"
It''s been proven time and time again that metachads are most of the playerbase and waifu fags are just are very loud, small, and autistic side of the playerbase. Even ALEX mogs elf-mag that one anon coping anon was shilling and saying she's better than sheli(lmao). learn you place next time you shitters.
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>>584764145
That's quite good, I'll keep it at that for now
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>>584760378
Same, I don't particularly dislike her or anything, I just like my day 1 Adam bro more. It is a bit annoying that she basically shits on every other mage especially now with her alt, I'm just hoping the level 80 skills /A5 balance changes bring all mages a bit closer to her level.
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>>584765175
>I'm just hoping the level 80 skills /A5 balance changes bring all mages a bit closer to her level.
LMAOOOOO, she's the "yuzu" of mages, gl with that. Gl with that.
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JD already showed us they only buff classes when they want to sell them with kniggers
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>3 times getting junk in the mausoleum in row and counting.
God I hate this shit so much. I bet besides the fossilized bone tokens this shit is going to stay exactly the same just to be annoying.
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why is she like this?
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>>584765472
"yuzu" of mages very much mean future caps can nullify her power gap, yes.
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>>584765472
Naw, not even close. She is just a slightly less dogshit mage.
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Sheli > Yuzu
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yuzu=brown beastial anus
sheli=pale elf anus
it's insulting to even compare the 2
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>>584766003
Nyothing personyal nya
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>>584765675
>6 times now
Wow, I think that's a personal best. Just reinforces my stance to never give a single cent to Drecom.
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>>584766003
>I'm ready!
>Sorry about this!
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>>584766003
Not enough scritches

>>584766356
That explains your bricked luck. Everyone knows capricious gods must be placated with offerings.
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>>584766003
real life footage of what I'll do to JD if they don't start feeding us nyontents RIGHT FUCKING MEOW
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>>584737292
If she dodges she can use it multiple times.
If she gets hit, it's supposed to stop working in that battle.
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other gachas have 2-4 rotating endgame modes every month
we have a new one every 6-8 months
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>>584736031
>Damagebrained retards don't get it because they don't push act content on release, never do superbosses until they are a full act ahead, and probably don't even have more than 1 knights cloak.
Retard here I do new acts on release but I never do superbosses at all because I simply don't care and I have not used a knight since I got lana class change a few weeks after launch.
Oh and I only got 1 cloak.
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>>584764201
>And also doesn't it make her defend on top of that?
She's supposed to, but it's bugged and she only defends on the first one and then stops defending, and I think the damage calculation gets all wonky since she got slapped by a hobgoblin in A1 for 600 damage despite having 500 Defense on the third block she did.
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benis
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>>584762667
I wonder what those two 5 params are? I wonder if this skill has a proc cap or reduced chances after each proc like the stuff we usually see
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HOL UP
is the fairy the only one in the whole game that will talk if you get a nyelendary bone? She just went KINOKO KINOKO as I summoned the shota mage.
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Actually, fixed damage reduction might stack with % damage reduction, innit?
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New rankings after today’s refresh.
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>>584769227
Mushroom!
Mushroom!
MUSHROOOOM
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>>584769330
>this made boomers cry and shit and piss their pants in laughter
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>>584769234
It absolutely stacks it just depends on where in the calculation it does.
Right now the order is Percentage Reductions from Skills if any then Defend Bonus then defense is applied.
So if it applies after percentage ones, it’ll be good. If it applies right before or after Defense it’ll be great.
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did people even wear underwear in medieval times? shouldn't sheli be butt naked under her robes?
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>>584769667
Yes, but it varied depending on region as to what kind.
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>>584769330
No idea what that is and I remember the stupid gerbil in a microwave/blender flash clips
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>>584769247
Benis pulls ahead even more
Benis
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You fuckers have permanently changed Abenius to Benis in my mind.
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>>584771629
fug :DDD
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>>584765675
>>584766356
We are getting a Mausoleum update this month. Maybe they will remove that shit.
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>>584762667
Does the Arianaute inherit make you defend as well? Or does it only apply the flat damage reduction?
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>>584773752
Defend as well, but it only gives an Opening if you're a knight. Fighters etc. will just block some damage
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>>584773861
Oh that's way better. Defend is a pretty beefy damage reduction. Might be one of the best inherits in the game.
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>>584774026
5% proc tho
Youll see it as often as critical misses
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adventurer for this feel?
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>>584773861
>>584774026
>>584773752
only on knights.
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I don't really get why people were shitting on Noir Sword so much. I am not at endgame by any means. My party is level 40 to 60 at the moment in generally not great gear, so I suppose it's possible for the balance of stats to start swinging, but it all seems in line so far.
>Benis has 498x1 attack
>Prishe has 254x3 attack
>Ari has 159 Attack, 500 Defense which translates to 230x3 attack
For sure Prishe will pull further ahead with things like Impetus and Skillchain, and Benis will be less affected by enemies with notable Defense stats of their own, take better advantage of sleep/opening, and of course has her out of turn actions. Ari is not in the race for top DPS. I just don't think the powergap is big enough to look down on her or anything like that. I actually think it's small enough that the extra openings and stuff she provides bring her really nicely into balance with the others.
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>>584767707
our players shit and piss themselves when they can't autobattle the endgame mode in 5 minutes which is why they had to get trashed and we've got this garbage now instead
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>>584775345
>I am not at endgame by any means
stopped reading after that.
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>>584775009
I believe it will defend, but only triggers openings if its a knight
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>>584775525
no
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>>584775546
Yes, retard.
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>>584775497

because of that, most people stick with a team of 6 units and swap out one of those units out every couple of months cause powercreep(which rarely happens cause most of the units released are dog shit), so when an actual mode that requires mutiple teams/units built(colosseum), most people wouldn't be ready and complain about it. damned if you, damned if you don't
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So Ari inherit garbage?
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>>584775826
yes, it's mainly whale bait
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>>584775756
no
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>>584775345
Noir sword is good for what it tries to do, which is give def scaling to knights's physical attacks. If you build surety on your kniggas then it will hurt quite a bit. People thinking its an easy alternative or upgrade to cuisinart are the one whos disappointed. My aria can hit like 400x3 surety on low def enemys, I think thats pretty damn great considering my benis hits for 1.6k without passives

Problem is that knights already do damage with def using GB, so the only real use for it is delving and farming because GB is a very strong skill. 1 big hit, gives a def buff with the only problem being sp cost
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>>584775826
One day when she's on adventurer bones you'll put it on everyone as part of the survival soup with Adam, WotK, pope book, and all that shit, but for now the Gems spent:Suvivability ratio is shit so I wouldn't think about it unless you have a high investment knight that stays in your party regularly and you don't just bring out as a KD slave when you fight a superboss.
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>>584775793
think the devs are a bit too cowardly wrt battlefront. it was fine as is and people will get used to hero mode existing as an optional challenge mode
old castle ruins was buggy, was uninteresting to explore, and the boss fights weren't particularly fun either, so i can understand not bringing it back though
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>>584774673
What anime? And is it good?
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>>584776180
lwo(lazy warped one)....
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>>584776180
Maze
Nyes
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>>584776113
>One day
ah so in 1 and a half years?
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>>584771629
It could be worse gwo. For some reason my mind fused it with the chorus of Maniac. She's A benius, benius on the floor...
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What if...
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>>584776170
Agreed. I think it was surprisingly fair. Even giving out Max rewards without hero mode. Sure keeping some of the discipline mat and the sword as part of the pass was a bit annoying, but it's still a gacha after all. And if it would reoccur once a quarter you could still stack up some free disciplines.
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If I FAS an item and don't like the roll, can I LFAS it after and keep the FAS bonus or do I have to use another FAS?
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>>584777128
Would have already pulled to pity at least once. Instead I'll wait out the free bones and maybe buy the cheap ten pull.
Hate the pathetic girl failure look. Also I already have enough Lana copies.
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>>584737441
The only reason to use a thief to open chests instead of a ninja or something else that can actually do damage is that you are using macros to farm. And in this case you want the disarm bar to be as wide as possible so the macro can never fail. This means stacking disarm and not just detect which makes milana NOT the best choice. I think Amelia is the best outside of whaling on the leggo dwarf but also if you invest enough, any of them can do the job. I use 0 disc arboris with some thief gear and bondmates and he never fails a chest
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Is there any way for this to be good? How do you fix gacha equipment? Should I alter this to MAG and then just enhance?
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>>584777813
honestly looks great as is already
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>>584774673
I think I'll watch that tonight
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>>584765037
they are the same thing. The top meta units are also the top waifu units
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>>584777813
>>584777848
Forgot pic woops
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>>584777128
>gooner thought her sword crossguard was bikini armor
Pretty funny desu.
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Is there math on Alt Sheli Inheritance MP restore?
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>>584777951
You can use it for the passive if you want but I wouldn't bother refining. It will never be good and it looks like your a swo so better save your stones to you get good silver gear. Or abyss 5. Whichever comes first
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>>584777951
>Intensity 0
Yeah you just alter it and then let it rip
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>get to the top of guarda
>Had 0 issues with any boss, actually beat them quite easily
>Can't get tp away because muh corruption
>Start final sequence
>Forced to fight TWICE against enemies who act twice outspeed my entire team and one shot my max level backline in one hit
Cool man who thought this was a good idea
Any tips?
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>>584777951
i don't think that's salvageable, green 2* mag + the passives probably won't be better than properly farmed gear
i'm using a blue 3* double speed chest which feels like the bare minimum
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>>584778489
the classic experience
just use debuffs and buffs like usual
masolotu and dilto works well for the laser mobs
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>>584778489
you can wheel to the fountain
somewhere around 70-100 eva will make them miss your backrow
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>>584778251
I'm still in Abyss 3. Btw is there a general accepted way of crafting gear? I know you generally want high stars but is there an order of operations. I only recently even found out what altering does.
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>>584778489
Just do it again. Now that you know how to golem, the second group doesn't fight you, you just need to beat the first group and then the boss. Give a knight the best EVA you can scrape up and just have them taunt and dodge everything, which will also be an effective strategy for the boss itself. It is technically better to just get 3 fighters enough evasion but that can be annoying to put together.
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KATA NYA NYA NYA NYA NYA!
KATA NYA NYA NYA NYA NYA!
KATA NYA NYA NYA NYA NYA!
KATA NYA NYA NYA NYA NYA~!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmqDEFvu278
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>>584778489
Remember that you can always double back to a fountain to heal before starting the gauntlet. Evasion works against the eyebeams, and if you have a knight at level 51, they learn Knight's Defense which significantly reduces damage taken for a turn.
The boss is unironically easier than the eye monsters since with enough damage, you can keep it stunned permanently.
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>>584778489
>Had 0 issues with any boss, actually beat them quite easily
here's the problem. you've been carried by modern powercreep until now. it's normal to eat shit and need to come up with a plan and/or farm
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>>584778805
You want to find a blend of good color, stars, and initial lines.
So for gloves on a fighter you'd want at least one line of attack or something, and then as you upgrade it, alter a second line to attack, or accuracy depending on what it rolls.
I wouldn't take a piece that isn't at least Blue 4 stars or Purple 3 stars past +10 though, as the resource cost rapidly increases after that.
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>>584778668
>>584778673
>>584778832
>>584778924
Ok I see thanks. I'll try again tomorrow after getting some Eva gear
>>584778947
The only modern unit I have is Phyllis
My team is
fighter MC knight Debra fighter Lana
Phylli Alice mage and a random yekaterina
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>>584779056
I see. I guess I shouldn't bother learning about FAS and stuff until I get to endgame.
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>>584779139
2h buffs came out after Guarda and any healer shuts down the doll boss.
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>>584779178
Yeah, FAS are in very short supply, so you'd definitely want to hold onto them until you know what you're doing.
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Hello, I got 2 Aria's in 48 pulls and now I have 48 exchange point on her limited shop thingy. What should I do with them? Roll more to guarantee some piece of gear or a third one? Anything else?
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>>584779139
Its mostly 2h buff and healers doing hella work in boss fights, even when they arent spamming status
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why does everyone act like we got the biggest content drop in centuries? there's fuck all to do besides rolling for the new whore(s)
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>>584779231
It pisses me off a bit that newfags aren't getting walled for a week by that doll whore
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my Sheli is not a whore. she is a spiritual virgin.
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>>584779506
Well I spent a week farming after killing the horse boss so technically I was
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>>584778805
There is a in depth guide on fasterthoughts, but I'm brief: alter before enhance. Then refine as a last step. You can only ever alter one slot. You can retry but you are locked in to that slot forever.

Don't use your FAS (if you have any) till endgame and even then probably stick to the trial rings untill you definitely know what you are doing.
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>>584779471
anni tourists/newfriends
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>>584779506
that's normal in gachas, if this is your first gacha and you plan on playing more/others, you'll see this a lot more often. While oldfags struggle to clear content and being gated for weeks to even a month. new features and units would trivialize it. You probably almost roped when new fags gloated that content was easy when yuzu dropped.
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>>584780651
yuzu fags got filtered on the doll
she takes too long to level and 1 charm will destroy her
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>>584779752
Thanks, is there any other resource you can use for unifying btw or is the only way to go higher than +5 on gacha gear from getting dupes?
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>>584780716
doubt it, even if they somehow did it would take way less tries to clear it compared to a player/old fag without her.
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Back in my days TZALIKman was THE newfag unit. Imagine nuking Helmut at backline for 800 damage!
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>>584780781
>+5 on gacha gear from getting dupes?
yes
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>>584781406
800 use to be a lot back in the day....damage inflation is real
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>>584780781
Only dupes. 27 copies to go from 0 to 3. The little number in the bottom right determining how far you can enhance. The paid gacha usually come in strengths 1/3. This Anni if the first time you can get 'free' gacha gear from green gems. But as in your case it's 0/3.

There are a couple of items which have a different enhancement process like the bounty ring but that's still some 100s of hours later into the game.
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300 today
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I'm sorry I asked you to wear that Barbara...
so far
>lego Bone
>500
>300
>300
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>>584768068
benis
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>bone
>0
>500
>0
Nice event
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>>584783267
lmao, same here
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>bone
>500
>300
>300
skll issue
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>lege bone
>500
>lege bone
>300
meh, not bad.
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>>584783980
liar liar ass on fire
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>>584783980
truther truther, nigger trooper
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>>584765675
Your Morgus contract? Can't remember the last time I left with only junk and no bone
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>>584783267
>>584783773
>>584783980
How do you trigger this? I only got 300 gems once
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>>584784834
by going to the royal capital. it's by chance though
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MY WIFE WENT TO WORK FOR ME
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I got a well disciplined alt benis but no normal benis. I'm just about to reach 150 adventurer's remain exchange though.
Do you think it's better to merge my alt benis or to inherit normal benis for flutterbenis flash?
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>>584785083
Dumbo
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>>584784894
I suppose I'll miss all the gems and bones.
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getting nice and fat on anni gems while waiting for monk
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>>584785083
>smartest benis user
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>>584761000
I went straight from lvl 2 to 5, so its hard to say how much really improved. At this point her guards do trigger quite a bit. The openings give huge damage too. I think it was very worth doing but not as impactful as something like lvl 3 hue or lvl 3 on benis passive skills. It is in some situations, but most of the time it doesn't trigger for farming.

It feels too early to really comment on it but I will say anecdotally that Ive been testing on bosses and she has been keeping everyone alive really easily. I one shot a4 GWO 2nd loop my first try with her and I even killed the snow cyclops before going straight to gwo.
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>>584785136
>>584785365
W-What
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>>584785589
if you merge you get both inherits on the character
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>>584785686
I hadn't figured. Thanks, I thought it was one or the other character's special traits and just shared disciplines.
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>>584775345
if you are early on then yes it will be a fantastic weapon. The farther you get the less damage the knight will do comparitively.
The big bonus of that weapon really is that it's a sword that gives flat defense. It's fine, but not something worth investing hard into.
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>>584785997
yes the special trait changes with style. discipline effect too. but you get to use both of their inherits
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I got Yuzu from a free legendary roll but i have no weapon for her. Where can i get a kunai?
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>>584786472
dont use her as a ninja if you dont have hairpin she sucks
just do ranger yuzu
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>>584786472
Sand Shadow cave will get you "easy" ebonsteel ones.
But if you don't have her gacha weapon, I can only recommend building her as a ranger instead.
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>>584786575
>>584786576
Naruhodo. Guess i will try that, thanks.
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>>584779456
no reason to pull more get some scrolls from the shop imo.
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>>584780651
I was just thinking how easy it is for me to kill 0 corruption GWO and it only gets to attack once.
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>>584786706
Level up her as ninja for skills tho.
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>>584785083
merge merge merge
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>>584785997
she deserves her own upgrade quest.
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>>584785083
Always merge. Merged characters get both inherits and you can switch between innates/disciplines. You never lose anything by merging.
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so did everyone forget the new legendary quest?
who is that for?
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>>584787112
that would be pretty great
>ninchan:.....
>lulu: what does she want?
>lulu: hmm looks like she wants your help with something
>ninchan:......
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>>584787112
>Human-Nin wasn't actually an unknown ninja at all, she was a legendary disguised as an unknown.

Honestly that would be kino.
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>>584787112
>>584787316
Zako ninja upgrade never ever
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Reminder new Abenis alt, voice lines and quest soon
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>>584787381
>mogs effortlessly
how does she do it?
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>>584777285
pretty sure LFAS removes the FAS bonus
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>>584787235
Not out yet, but they added post-quest models for Savia, Liv, and Sheli so one of them with the other two to follow in the coming months.
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>>584739647
I think he's cute
Speaking of alt when?
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>>584787235
We'll be helping Savia get over her homolust for the princess.
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>>584788561
I swear I've heard that line in skyrim or something
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>>584788160
can you post the models? i wanna see them minergwo
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Where do you find humanoids?
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>>584788949
A1 floor 1 has roving bands of Kissyerbutts
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>>584788160
have all new quests given buffs? i've only done alice and abenius. i know the older ones don't yet other than gerulf
also don't post spoilers please
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>>584785997
You get Shared Discipline as long as both versions are at least in Discipline Level 1. Otherwise you only get Inheritable Skill (the flash)
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kek just got jumpscared by Anemone's trap scream
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What IV for priests like Galina? I want to level her up for dispatches.
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Damn some of youse niggas are hardcore.
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>>584789646
I have that guy as a friend too.

My party power is only 17059
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>>584788160
I only heard of Savia and Shel, missed posting on Liv post quest model. They wouldnt release multiple quests at once would they?
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>>584789479
spd
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>>584790863
probably not or we're heading for many dead weeks otherwise
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>>584766003
>that's the last thing a ghul sees if he doesn't clean his chloe
scary
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>>584785997
Christ from the thumbnail i thought she had a massive cock.
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>>584788160
If i recall there was also a new model for Raffaello and another male.
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>>584791913
It might still be the case. Ninjas are masters of concealment
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>>584791956
This is a Gorilla wife god gone super saiyan
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It's a strange thing, being retarded. I should be advancing the story. I made it to the first Harken of A4 and I've just been distracted by leveling and gearing characters since then. At this point I know I'd beat the shit out of Bigfoot. I just also know that I'd beat him harder if I farmed up a few more 4* purple drops...
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>>584792828
might as well get to the wolf cause you will likely be stuck there.
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wait i have a purple 3* of the anti-fire/poison ring with atk/acc/crit subs
i should probably be picking that up monthly huh
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nyontents?
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Wow can't believe i bricked myself not knowing about the 'extra' fight in daybreak.
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That's a lot of milk
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Is knight Savia any good or is thief better?
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>>584794897
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i just realized that wanderer MC doesn't learn anything after lv50
which class change i should do first?
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>>584794752
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>>584795957
Fighter so you have a reliable and versatile bread and butter class
then thief for the chest stuff and buffs
then knight for the survival boosts
after that you start leveling up everything to collect passives and skills

Eventually you'll settle between fighter, ninja or samurai (and ranger once it drops)
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>>584796158
Oh nice! thanks for the help. My idea is to settle with samurai (i heard it is like a magic fighter and i like how that sounds)
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What's the best place to farm exp if I'm around the end of A3?
Also, I'm giving up on pulling aria and stopping. I did about 60 pulls and I really don't care about meta so I'll use Debra as a knight because she's cool. Should I grab the leggo bone for a chance at Benis?
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>>584794752
Tell me more
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It's impressive how dogshit this game is
>Certain important request rewards refresh every month
>This isn't conveyed to you in any way
>There's no way to track when it resets
>Same with bones
>No rarity filter in the adventurer log
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>>584789646
Swiping isn't hard or impressive little man
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>>584759598
>>584760982
>Everyone lied about Maporific and KD stacking
Poor Ainikki is still the AiBrikki.
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>>584797792
>No rarity filter in the adventurer log
I don't get the obsession over this and have never once desired in while sorting through 1000 idiots
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>>584797792
savor the jank
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>>584797792
yes this game prides itself on being an archaic game for old fucks
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does guardian blow have a soft cap? is there a point where the skill stops getting more damage based on your total def/mdef?
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>>584794897
>>584795740
Lou, give me a milk...
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I have an extra benis. I should inherit her skill to someone or just discipline her?
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>>584798427
dont inherit flash you can never turn it off
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>>584798343
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>>584798281
Dataminer anon's chart had the soft cap at 1000 effective attack but it feels like you get diminishing returns sooner than that.
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>>584798531
damn thanks for telling me i was thinking on inheriting it to MC
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>>584795957
>>584796493
fyi level 17 was the last wanderer skill. you were meant to swap as soon as you got well of the mind
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>>584798531
i inherited flash to my MC and my Lana, i don't give a fuck.
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>>584798281
it does, but it is very high. Even at level 1 it has a soft cap of 1000 "attack." I seem to remember that GB "attack" is 70% of your defense plus 70% of your magic defense. I'm not totally confident in those numbers but whenever I post them nobody corrects me so it is probably at least close enough to right. GB level 1 is 2.5 times your "attack" up to a cap of 1000 though, that's a science fact.
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>>584798752
well, wanderer does come in handy when you want to do class trials without the right class available (haven't leveled, or if you don't want to reset your mindwell)
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>>584798881
>>584798675
nice, thanks. So I guess you still really want to defmaxx since effective total def for it is like fucking 1.4k. Too bad I'm only at 1k total
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Best lad
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Have I... been your knight? :(
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i have a strength iv alt shiou.
i have like four alices with no particularly great ivs. i should use my selector bone for another chance to get a speed iv alice right? since shiou is already in a nice place. or is it worth getting shiou's base form for merging? thanks!!!!
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>>584795702
>Beastfolk knight
>wott
>Is is good?
Less surety than Debra, but she has an easier time becoming a dodge tank.

>>584785083
Depends on your alt Benis and how patient you are
>Did the alt benis have a good boon?
>Are you happy with the amount of bp/fortitude she has?
If you aren't satisfied and the base Benis lacks those too, you can just inherit the flutter and codex it up to lvl 2 and begin waiting for a perfect Benis to arrive and fill her hole.
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>>584799097
>the exaggerated swagger of a Dark adventurer
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>>584799097
no one came to give me anything today...
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>>584799151
Base shiou is always better. The alt alone is yet another blank samurai with two useless skills.
I think priests have hidden speed boons. You checked all the Alice's mage forms?
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>>584799672
would the ideal thing for shiou be merging the base form with alt in order to keep the alt's strength iv, but style switching her to the base form?
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>>584799923
Yes, the alt as the base for the boon, assuming you don't pull spd boon base. d0/d0 with access to both inherits and the base's personal skill is a lot better.
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>>584794752
the what now
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How do fairy sets that affect other party members work? Like does it just buff the one in front of her or does it pick one at random every encounter or what?
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>>584800395
Always random. So you just want the compassion set for bonus healing, with either the toad set for 50 res or the one that gives 6 luck (I forget which one)
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Is the Lana dispatch even worth running
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It's amazing how a single simple change could save knights. But they just won't do it.
Reduce the sp costs.
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>>584800728
>Always random
Of all the gay, retarded decisions JD has made with this game, that might be the most gay and retarded.
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Rance collab when?
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>>584801508
probably never, it's too PG
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>>584801361
Since the cost is fixed and you can also relicbrew/bondmate/etc for more SP, not to mention higher grades eventually, you can save the Knight yourself! waow!
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>>584801508
>>584801546
I would swipe to D9 Shizuka and Kanami
maybe even Rance
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>>584801546
Don't worry, Rance has reformed his ways
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>>584801941
He's always been a female ally
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>>584798343
Milk? That can't be...
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>>584799434
Same
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we need some collab characters from modern setting anime
ranma could be a good monk without having clothes that look too weird
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Persona 5 Royal collab
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>>584799097
Valdor gave me 500 today, he always shows up on these events despite being unused and stuck on lvl 20 since release because of that I can't bring myself to turn him into tags.
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disney step collab soon
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i want more nyollaborations
and nyompensations
and nyontents
and nyaracters
and nyabysses
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>>584804801
nyo
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sorry reinvesting in the game and having stable revenue isn't enough they've gotta put daphne's profits into other projects that flop
enjoy your reused old dungeon every six months
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>>584804801
I never thought I'd say this, but...
I want...
MORE CAVES!
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>>584801691
Wow! That's like....3 whole guardian blows!
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>>584800136
>>584797778
Every 3rd one there's an extra fight after clearing all the other fights if you go back to the entrance that gives basically as many EXP and probably same for gold as a whole run does.
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>>584805956
It's eleven, you either have have brain damage or you leveled it to 5 (which also points towards brain damage)
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>>584806035
Man I'm so annoyed that we didn't get a new class for MC or the dorm update while Daybreak is going. Does anyone know if the tickets expire? Wasn't there an Anon who had leftover tickets from the last time it ran? Maybe I can safe them then. Don't want to waste them to get gold.
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Barbara Alt when?
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>>584806674
She makes a big show of taking the old tickets from you and scrapping them if you have them.
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>>584763674
What is lvl 5 chance + reduction on Aria herself for Saint Guard?
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Threadly reminder that this is the only and most advanced modern drpg that has ever existed and it may also be the last one.
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>>584808278
yes but drecom is also resting on their laurels and fucking us in the ass every chance they get
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>>584808278
Surely the Chinese will clone it eventually or Sega/Fatlus will wake the fuck up and make an Etrian gacha
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>>584808450
we said that 2 years ago.
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Im thinking about trying the wolf boss again with my lvl 5 Saint Guard Aria do u guys wana see?
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>>584808483
I know we did, I'm him
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>>584808450
The chinks are incapable of making a good RPG much less a good DRPG, so ror rmoa even.
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is going from 60 to 75 evasion doing anything to be worth dropping from 450 to 390 def
I'm considering because the light
boots also have a little attack on them vs the heavy ones
>why is your def so high
ssssh don't ask
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>>584808708
evasion doesnt do shit if its not above 140
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>>584808708
Not really, having evasion under the threshold for whatever you're doing makes it all useless, and you'd need around twice that much to meet the requirements for the end of Abyss 3
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>>584808450
china would make it too easy
sega would probably make it too p2w
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>>584809054
JD has been making the game easier too
they are really pushing people to finish a3 and a4
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>>584808708
>450 DEF
>High

Did you mean MDEF? Or are you taking about fighters? Because for a knight that's nothing.
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>>584809318
a3 and a4 are both ancient at this point
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>>584808278
Your Refrain/Galeria?
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>>584810385
what the hell is her problem?
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>>584810385
Those games fall short in a lot of areas, they're still decent but not really genre defining
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>>584811035
Yeah as much as I love these games they're carried hard by the OST, scenario and art. Mechanically they're okay at best, especially Galeria which is so short on dungeons.
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>>584810145
Surely for A5 they'll realize they should make it extremely opporessive and hard, then provide upgrades via caves and collabs for a year afterwards to slowly make it easier, instead of just having it be easy like A4...
I'm afraid we'll never get anything as spooky as the initial A3 climb ever again
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Stupid cheapskate dog.
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>>584811382
Bleh!
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Phylisse got replaced so quickly by yeka it's insane. As for healers, I still have D2 anemone just waiting for more fairy gear and an extra copy that I guess I can feed to my MC at this point?
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>>584811382
gotta wait 2 weeks for the 200 she ate to come out
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>finish A4 Gwo 2nd loop
>see a new sale pop up at the JEWeler
y-you too..
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>>584811904
they should do two tiers of these
if there was a cheap decent deal i might get baited. make it exclusive with the whale one containing the skill scroll
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>>584811728
Fairy gear does not come to those who wait you need to get back into the mines.
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>>584810385
This isn't the worst JRPG dialogue I've seen but it's a shining example of why literal translations are bad.
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>>584812210
for a short time there was cheap ones on steam version and they fucking fixed it like 2 days before I got there.
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>>584812261
im just farming alabaster and church grounds for now. does it drop in A4?
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Do I get the blessing of agora passive if I merge my regular Alice into my level 70 snow sleeved maiden Alice? I only just found out now that the regular Alice that ability.
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How does camp conversation grinding work? Do you have to fight a couple of niggas first each time? I can't get them to trigger
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When are we getting a decomp recomp 4K native pc port for this game, lads?
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>>584813270
Yeah. the only things you don't get are the innate and discipline skills. So when you switch to snow sleeved you're trading +10% damage bonus for +10% damage resistance.
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>>584813739
Fail opening a chest
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>>584813029
You abuse the A4 mine strat, if it still works, for guaranteed fairy junk drops. You can just keep farming like normal and hope for pixies but it will take you years for a full set of fairy gear.
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>>584813739
best spot is A1 floor 7, get a team all of the same alignment, fail to open 2-3 chests then rest at the fountain.
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>>584814108
>>584814385
ty boys
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I can't decide between using Livana or Shiou, they're both so hot. Which one is considered to be better? I'm somewhat new to the game so I don't know about a lot of the units yet.
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>>584815103
If you're new, Samurai only start to shine on later on the game, at the beginning they are a pain in the ass to level up and gear
so safe bet is Livana
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>>584815103
shiou is one of the game's true hypercarries but you can't make use of her for ages
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>>584815103
Liv is easier to build as a Fighter and has a decent skill attack that can hit units from afar, but Shiou is a stronger, long-term unit you have to invest in.
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>>584815103
Liv might be getting buffed soon with her leg quest coming up
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Are boons obvious by level 20 or can variance leave it deceptive?
i have a Prishe that I don't know the boon of and a str boon Prishe I just leveled to compare, and at 20 they're even on STR accounting for BP, but idk how many levels it takes for boons to make a difference.
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>>584815519
>>584815749
>>584815912
At what point in the game does Shiou become solid? I think I'm near the end of Act 2.
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>>584817706
At the point when you can farm like crazy. She needs 2.5x the experience of a regular adventurer and specific gear with specific blessings.
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>>584817706
its more like after lvl 40 she will take so long to level up that it won't make sense to keep her in unless you are farming a collab dungeon
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>8k junk
>1 fas and 6 lfas
eh
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>>584808587
id watch a clip if it doesnt take too long
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>>584808587
post pussy
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Grinding some bondmates and I can see why so many of you like viviana, she's very cute
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>>584810385
What in the fuck did I just read
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>>584822235
pure kino
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Beast women owe me sex!
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>>584820512
>>584819664
https://files.catbox.moe/isc9ef.mp4
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>>584816147
You won't be able to tell at 20, you'd have to wait for her class change then check that. See you next year!
But seriously if you know you have a STR boon just dumpster the other one, who cares
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I regret rolling for Aria, she isn't as cool as I thought...
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I miss the NOOOO I DON'T WANNA DIE
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>>584822905
>https://files.catbox.moe/isc9ef.mp4
This would be funny if it weren't sad
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>>584822905
Not bad until your MC's popsicle got LICKED
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>>584822905
add to the tally
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>>584822905
Shatter does 4x damage. You had no chance without defending.
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>>584822905
>clank
>clank
>clank
ngl I like the clank sounds
probably want to defrost before the fight and find some aoe dmg
also what is benis' acc that she missed that paos?
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>>584822905
The virgin frontline MC
>prideful to the point of rushing to an early death
>is forced into using melee based classes
>often lying on the ground dead
The chad backline MC
>calm and relaxed as he is protected by his waifus
>uses a wide variety of weapons and skills
>safely leads from behind as he carries his party to victory as a true leader
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>>584824068
Literally good mc vs evil mc.
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>>584823913
>also what is benis' acc that she missed that paos?
There's always a chance to miss isn't there?
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>>584822905
Drop the katana for an odachi, ichimonji those bitches.
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>>584822905
is she saying "oh my god"?
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>>584824161
We need the party numbers to be upped to 9 so as a neutralchad I can lead from the middle
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>>584823913
>>584824208
Freeze significantly cuts accuracy and the wolf had increased evasion.
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>>584824351
Seems like the line is supposed to be "Oh, my God!" like she's praying but it is kinda just delivered as an "omg" which is funny
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>>584824403
He's 70 though, so he should have malefic wind for that.
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So, I've read multiple times that thieves aren't worth investing too much in, and that fighters with spears or bows in the backline are better for the early and mid game, or other comps in general. Now my question is, if I stop using a thief, who should I use to open treasure chests? Should I inherit disarm skills onto my MC, or what should I do?
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>ari blocks a slumbering sleeve
>it puts her and the character she was protecting asleep
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>>584822905
why are you not using camille
her hippie ass could have saved you from that shatter in multiple different ways
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>>584825196
>ez mode
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>>584822905
You brought the wrong OP gacha unit. Anemone lets you just bumble your way through the fight and tickle the wolf to death.
https://streamable.com/lsu2mp

I was caught off-guard by how little damage MoF does to the linked wolves.
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>>584825081
>ambushed by killer buns
>she dies protecting a party member from the instakill
It's pretty funny
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>>584825196
>>584825849
the content was not designed for healers
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>>584825864
the best part is when they kill BOTH characters
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>>584823028
Because assuming the other one is also strength then it's 2 extra strength from BP and 50 extra levels of exp
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>>584825072
Only whales and vets can afford to use non-thief chest openers. It's too expensive for most players.
Pick your favorite general thief with good IVs and BP, then hyper-invest into them with disciplines and Jean/Bakesh inherits. The best option at this point is probably Hein but Olive and Milana are good too. You can also pick Amelia if you don't understand the concept of opportunity cost, or Philip/Dino if you're gay.
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Did anyone figure out if that new fire staff can help Asha one shot the pillars without mental unity?
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>>584775345
Because every time a 3 hit weapon comes out people get really excited about a meta shift in endgame dps weapons. Noir was disappointing because it was a utility sidegrade compared to stuff like Cuisinart, Hairpin, and Prishe Cestus.

Then for the one currently good niche of defense stacking, GB, it doesn't scale at all with the 3x hit count (but still solid since it lets you mob with GB setups).
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>>584822905
>>584825849
This fight seems like ass cancer and I am not sad to have procrastinated getting to it
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>>584826537
For me, a +15 staff was too weak. Still too weak even with Dutz's drugs.
Lana+Anemone synergy anchors is the most reliable one-shot with Lahalito2 equipped with your claustrum.
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>>584825072
If you're new just get the bondmates from abyss 1 which is already a very nice boost but eventually you want to invest into MC.
It makes no sense to invest into a thief instead of MC when you will always use MC. Just trickle in Jean/Bakesh inherits and use trap related gear and MC is very easy to make into your specialized chest opener.
You can use a thief in the beginning no worries but combat wise they fall off hard meanwhile you can make any MC class into a very reliable chest opener. I don't even know the last time I failed a detect check.
I guess I'm a vet but I was even doing this before abyss 4 came out, I was in abyss 3 opening up chests with MC and never got stoned.
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Has anyone actually used Linaria as a ranger? How do you make good use of her passive, and is she worth it to keep as a ranger over a thief?
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>>584827024
>your claustrum.
heh, about that...
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>>584827542
It's imp to realize encore triggers from non dmg skills. Not to be confused with dmg after application. She can also riotous and hero medicine in the same turn. Different buffs.
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>>584827542
Keep her in the back middle and ballad.
if she encores either finish buffing or just do damage. Thief is in a horrible state but scatter shot isnt locked into ranger. so it really depends on whether you prefer her as full utility character or sub dps.
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>>584827675
Claustrum is just the easiest, most optimized staff. You can use any good silver staff with at least 2 magic lines, including the malice one.
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>>584828095
how much magic power are you aiming for? my asha is at 520 or so
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>>584827542
I don't think it matters which class you keep her on. Neither class gets any non-damaging buff or debuff skill. Except for like, smoke bomb. So you can smokebomb>flee probably.
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>>584828285
well if you want to meme tactical bola does proc encore
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>>584828285
There is pretty much no reason to every stay on thief over ranger if both are options. Ranger's damage is just so much better when you want to do that and opens chests just as well.
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>>584828235
I had 573 on my Asha in the double synergy party that did the loops for the Iris bondmate.
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>>584828839
Nah, Hiding is great. It's just that literally any self buff feels like shitty turn economy, but Linaria sometimes does not lose a turn to it.
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>>584828839
how much better is scattershot on ranger really?
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>>584829295
The problem is even if you hide she still doesn't do any damage. Like maybe the lv80 uncap will finally give thief an actual attack, but until then a self buff like that is just sort of pointless. Of course if you are just using her as a buff bot it doesn't matter what class you are in, but if you want more ranger is just better.
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ok i changed classes and now my MC is a fighter.
where should i farm exp?
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>>584829523
if you are in A2 the deepest level you can go and easily survive. If you're A3 farm cave of seperation.
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>>584829716
i only finished A1. i don't know how to unlock A2
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>>584828065
Ranger is a lot easier to build damage on IMO.
Accuracy is fucking everywhere.
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>>584829816
hrmmm... I don't think you did the true ending then. Just farm around b7 or b5 probably.
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isn't it wonderful that this game is so deep and esoteric that lets people have so many wildly different ways to SUFFER through it? The shared experience of misery and awe is wonderful. Daphne went on to become a great videogame.

Remember how fucking buggy it was on release? People playing now have zero idea, and if they were to found out or read, they would think we are lying. I can't remember any other gacha that has this many bugs. And also, even with all of this, people LOVED it.
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>>584829508
that's because thief linaria's main role is buffing. If linaria scores an encore on ballad she can follow up with another buff immediately giving her some of the best turn economy in the game and then after that shes supposed to settle into a utility healbot role.
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>>584826146
All you can really do is either waste a bunch of tags leveling it to compare or Feedback JD and tell him he's retarded for not letting you see initial stats somewhere
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>>584830006
fuck i think i need to read a guide
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>>584830351
why the hell can't you see boons, just do the fucking color thing FEH and pokemon do.
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>>584830116
The problem with that is hiding doesn't fucking do anything. A self buff is pointless when she can't make use of it. You are better off sticking her in ranger, doing the whole buff shebang and then being able to actually do something if the fight is still going.
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>>584829508
I mean, "caught up" accounts have characters with 150 SUR and 200 ACC and all that good shit, but there are also people in this thread right now going into A2 and are missing a lot and are pleasantly surprised by the rare sure hit, and for them and really most people still making it to endgame the consistency of a hiding thief averages out favorably versus a big number happening "sometimes"
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>>584830461
Let reading guides the last resort, the BEST experience this game gives you is the sense of discovery; figuring out how to advance is a big part of it; it's a main lure of bloobers!
Keep going anyon! Nyanbatte!
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Why don't people just give knights a two-handed weapon when they need to do damage? Couldn't you just give them a greatsword and then inherit heavy attack lvl3 or DTS onto them for decent damage? Then just swap back to axe and shield when you need to defend or use GB.
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wait wth, is this true? Did they finally fix her emoji looking face?
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>>584830624
>150 SUR
I dunno about that lmao
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>>584830668
bruh i came back and i don't remember what i did.
i know i beated the A1 like 2 or 3 times but can't remember if i got the true ending or not
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>>584830858
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Do I get anything from beating the easier battlefields?
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>>584787381
medium ugly, ninja
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>>584830858
It's still the same don't scare me like that.
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>>584830903
Not hard on thief or ninja. If you're using daggers you might ACCIDENTALLY hit that.

Thief actually gets so many surety bonuses they barely even want it on gear because they'll overcap it in combat.
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Toshiaki is also wondering about the daily reward.
Savor the risk.

>>584831274
At least 4 people did say it changed, I haven't checked myself desu; are you sure?
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>>584830940
when you go to the wheel it will tell you all the decisions you've made. If you read the request it will tell you waht to look for next.
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haven't played since A4 dropped, what'd they do to Unify?
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>>584831665
you can do it in bulk instead of having to do it one at a time
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>>584831410
yeah i compared it to the fastherthought image and it looks the same.
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oh shit, I forgot about the new nyelendary quest, who may it be? Benis? Isn't it her year? Also new dispatch quest.
New character MAY drop the 30th as well.
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>>584831665
Made it so it works on a point system rather than all or nothing. You need the same total number of copies, but you can do things like make fodder to clear up inventory now or upgrade as you get them.
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>>584831410
>>584830858
if they do change it, it's probably for the best
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>>584831665
Instead of needing to get 27 pieces and systematically mash them together to get to 3/3, now you just take one piece and mash the other 26 into it.
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>>584831665
Nothing in practical terms, you can just add unify materials one at a time and all at once instead of needing to unify to make the thing you need to unify to make the thing you need to unify.
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>>584831817
Benis already got hers.
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>>584831867
woman who look like this fuck the best
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>>584831445
i... forgot i could do that
ty!
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>>584831786
>>584831830
oh, neat.
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>>584831867
>>584831796
This is the gif they shared in their post:
https://jumpshare.com/s/rfEYCSCCbjeVtVR4g0I1
decide by nyerself
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>>584803803
well fags here sperg out when a collab here doesn't match the game's setting. Delicious in Dungeon matches this game's setting and there's a good chance we get that game's collab considering how well the final fantasy collab did. If afk journey can get it, so can we
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>>584832146
She just lost a little weight, that's all
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>>584815103
I would go with Liv. I feel she is one of the most underrated characters. Her skill is absolutely busted early on with excellent scaling, long range and a silence that is on the level of montino level 3. It will be very helpful in abyss 3. Her Alt skill is also very good as a unique column attack you only get on rangers otherwise.

>584817706
Shiou can become a hyper carry, as all samurais can, but that requires very specific gear. It's only really worth it farming in abyss 4. Also best in mind that the way to abuse her skill relies on regeneration. Either with the troll ring from the blade and bastards collab or with the healer skills. There is also one priest regen skill but iirc it's level 60 or 70. Also the only fights that are worth all this setup are mostly the cyclops fights in abyss 4. Maybe the bounty cyclops at the end of abyss 3 after doing 0 corruption gatekeeper. Though as a new player you are probably better off crit fishing with ninjas. Once you can do the right legit you don't really need her anymore or you'll just use bamboo splitter and that can be done with any samurai.
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NOOOOOOOO THE GAME CRASHED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EXTRA FIGHT
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>>584811269
>>584811269
>Yeah as much as I love these games they're carried hard by the OST, scenario and art.
anon, that's every Nippon Ichi game....
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>>584832636
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nyo
Tenpei Sato is iconic and moody, BUT LITERALLY ALL HIS SONGS SOUND THE SAME and he knows this!
what carry them is one thing and one thing only: SOUL
and because they were RETARDS they let go all their directors and now they don't even have that. It's over.
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>>584832765
the fight got paused let's goooo!!!
also wtf this is the 3rd consecutive time Lana invited me to an 1-to-1 drinking session
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should I give my healer dialko and kusfis? kinda MP intensive to do the aoe option healers got in combat
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>>584833202
Can't hurt. That's why we have inherits after all.
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I thought I saw a leak in here about savia but it may have been my imagination?

Anyway I hope it's Savia.
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Ranaviu makes Toshiaki feel things...
do you share such feelings anyon?
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WAIT
the 3 quest (the one from the wizard, the princess and i can't remember the other) are from the main story? i ignored them because i thought they were random sidequests
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>>584833906
why are they all named toshiaki? is that their location?
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>>584833906
>it was an all-boys school
u wot
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>>584833906
>it was an all boys school
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>>584832398
Also I'm pretty sure knights have a better activation rate than Shiou's taunt (or any sam taunt for that matter) if you do want to use someone for cyclops bounty
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>>584780651
I had to actually git gud, stack circlets and res, use Clarissa, unequip weapons on start, bring 2 priests, get HA 3 on my frontline to win. Now newfags just shut down everything with Camille and wail at bosses with super 2H weapons they got from event caves. Life isn't fair.
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>>584815103
Take them both.
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>>584833906
nips are funny
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>>584833906
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>>584789646
I have just over 23k and I'm f2p though.
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>>584833906
I told you gwos the short hair usage was to appeal to homos
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>>584833906
lana with a benis
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>>584835103
As a straight man, I like boyish girls so it's not gay.
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I've been trying to make Debra GB spam work. I have her at 130 Suerty but just checked and her combined DEF and MDEF is only just over 700. How much total defense should I aim for? She hits between 2.5k and 4.8k when she crits so there's a lot of variance in the damage.
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>>584835009
Hours?
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>>584835641
How the fuck are your combined def stats so low? You should be over 600 with just your normal defense stat.
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>>584831665
They made it so it doesn't SUCK ASS. You can unify any number of pieces in any order. You can even inherit a 3/3 onto a 0/3 to make it 3/3 instantly. So you don't need to have a bunch of 0/3 copies sitting in your inventory you can just mash everything together until you find a good piece.

But as a caveat, anything that's equipped no longer shows up in the unify menu.
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>>584835528
straighter than liking loli shit, you're good.
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>>584836554
There is nothing straighter than loli though.
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>>584836554
someone needs the Illya chart meme again
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what's better for sheli alt, inheriting her skill or discipline?
I would argue discipline since her bones will eventually come and then I could lvl her alt version with it
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>>584836243
I just focused on Surety and ended with that level of defense. I just want to know what the optimal point is, so that I can switch out gear pieces accordingly.
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>>584836635
>underdeveloped to the point of looking like little boy at times
>straight
uh huh
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Any tricks to the suicide bomber sand dude bounty?
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>>584837092
Sorry, but I agree with the other anon. Someone needs to read the illya meme chart again.
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>>584832829
Based.
There's maybe 3 songs from the Disgaea series that I would listen to outside of the game itself, and all of them are from the first game.

Also it's fascinating how Etna manages to somehow wear less clothing in every new game when she STARTED with this.
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>>584838167
Etna is peak sex. Disgaea collab fucking when?
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>>584839314
Just pretend Garbage's ears are pointy when she comes out
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>>584839396
Personality is completely different. It's not JUST her flat chest that makes Etna hot.
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>anni
>new units
>0 slutty maids
pain
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>>584839507
Just pretend Etna is barking
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COLLAB WHEN
CURRY WHEN
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I don't wanna doompost but this anni seems worse than the last
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>>584839859
It is
But that's okay, I made my own content
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>>584839859
This is just factual.
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>>584839859
It's all been downhill since a3
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>>584840208
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>>584839859
An unkillable knigger is just less flashy than a broken DPS. The real downgrade is on the boner selector. Really should have had a better set of pickables.
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>>584839859
anyon, even if you wanted, you can't, it got more people playing than last anniv, and the overall ojisan in twitter and 2ch are very happy with it

what you dont get is that +40yo/60yo aren't looking for hype shit, as long as it works and it's cute, they are super happy with it. The game could literally never get any updates ever again and they would be fine with it. It's a completely different market. Drecom nailed a playerbase that was forgotten and relegated to a pachinko life.
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FINALLY i haven't had a single tavern yet with Aria or a single camp and i've been trying. Neutral MC.
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>>584840437
I think A4 had some good moments. The abysses are still the peak of the content. It's just that the time between A3 and A4 was quite a bit and now A4 to A5 feels like a canyon because the content in between just isn't comparable.
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>>584840437
A1 was the peak.
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>>584840574
>>584840597
My problem with Aria in specific is that she's just pretty boring. We already have good human women that are pretty similar in personality. Give me something NEW.
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>>584840845
I like her personality.
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>>584840628
they don't like neuters
try having an opinion next time you talk
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>>584840845
NYO
you know what gets likes and art and memes on JP twitter? NOBODYFUCKINGKNOWS, it's just charm, and we got another princess with communication issues that is wearing an apron that is being memed into a futon by artists already.
They got it right. They also have the nyuabyss on the way, and it may be so brutal, everyone will end up talking about how much she saved everyone's lives.

also, Shellynya is extremely popular in JP, she is getting a new wave of art as we type.
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>>584839859
>anni units aren't even yuzu lvl
>new content is just a shill fest for the brick anni knight unit that's whale bait
>retarded lotto again where there will be times you don't even get any jimmies
>lege /anni bones that will most likely give you garbage due to how diluted the banner is
h-how? shouldn't annis get better as the game gets older.....?
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I feel lied to. How is her art so sex and in game she's so blah? Usually it's the opposite. The art shows a skintight suit this is a fucking thick tabard
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>>584840772
Peak NPCs and story pacing sure, but launch A3 was peak crawling
Not having FOEs around to keep you on your toes is just boring and A4 proved it
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>>584841643
Because Kozaki actually came back and drew it instead of drecom AI generating it.
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>>584841643
I still see mesh covering a man's chest, underneath what must be a huge Fabio head...
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>>584841643
Her ass is hanging out
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this event gave me my first benus
and then my second and my third
i guess i will merge them all and have a powerful benus (i might replace livana will benis if benis is the more powerful character)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuY802sPxY&t=170s

Wonder under what circumstance, Lana will say this line.
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>>584830351
Maybe I should just trust past me because I definitely would've checked, but I don't remember if this is a Prishe I registered early before getting my other copies. I'd hope not since it's not like I used her or bothered leveling her, pretty sure I started sending her to the Guarda expedition after the collab ended.
I do have a third copy I could bring to 20 that for sure doesn't have a Str boon so I guess I'll compare with it too.
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>>584842502
god, english voice acting is terrible, i forgot how bad these actors were
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>>584832245
yeah obviously there are good collabs that fit the setting. we've discussed them countless times
for some variety i was wondering what characters from a modern setting could theoretically sneak in without looking super out of place, even though it'd never actually happen
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>>584823028
20 is absolutely enough to figure out what pattern you are on, assuming you catalog every level up and toss it into the checker.
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>>584842627
>I do have a third copy I could bring to 20 that for sure doesn't have a Str boon so I guess I'll compare with it too
There isn't that much point, because it won't tell you if the questionable one rolled lucky or is actually booned
Think of it this way, JD will give her a merge somehow later or the Daphne Monk will ultimately mog her, either way the 2 BP won't matter :^)
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>>584842703
To be fair, only a couple characters are truly disgustingly bad, such as Lana and Yekaterina. Lulunarde is genuinely excellent.
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>>584843113
>assuming you catalog every level up
I don't think he did
>>584843294
>truly disgustingly bad, such as Lana and Yekaterina
Too obvious bait, you're not catching any Trout with that
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>>584842420
benis
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>>584843294
sadly for Lulu, she is voiced by a major star in JP, she never got a chance

also, the english actress didn't voice her celebration message for /us/ unlike Inori Minase, so yeah
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>>584843294
I've noticed Lulu's VA whiff some lines lately, I think the originally recorded lines are pretty great but maybe they just forgot the part or something
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>>584842502
>Large magic ready
>Use large magic
It's a mystery to me. I think there is a very rare lacones consumable item that you can obtain somewhere.
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>>584839859
no shit last time we got bounties which was one of the best updates the game has had
>>584843113
the unknown one is level 20 and will go straight to 70 when uncapped
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>>584843501
Inori LITERALLY has mentail issues btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tedZcICDYm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ULCnzrOAds

she is also a RETARD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzC4hjaTy28

and kind of a bitch desu (the scandal she survived is hilarious shit)
so yeah, SHE IS LITERALLY PERFECT FOR LULU
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Dump all points into strength for Livana? I can't really tell what's she's good for.
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>>584843857
yes pump the muscle
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>>584839859
>no old castle update
>no colosseum update
>no fishing or mining or runecrafting update
>no marriage or sex update
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https://youtu.be/MV7XAjVUYw8?t=180
>Unleash a huge AOE spell
>A very weak "So sparkly"
I'll be really annoyed if they try to give her a mage CC
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>>584843962
I just want to bathe my characters with a moderately unpleasant rag
>>584843979
They pretty much spoiled it on release
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>>584843416
If you consider yourself in the majority when praising the game's English dub, I'm genuinely surprised.
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>>584844093
>I just want to bathe my characters with a moderately unpleasant rag
That's a very specific kink.
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>>584843615
I guess there would be mighty spells need charge for mage like full power strike of fighter.
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>>584834325
Why is everyone here named Anonymous?
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>>584841643
>How is her art so sex and in game she's so blah?
the "art" is gen sloppa, so not surprising you though it was something else.
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>>584844419
anonymous is my father's last name
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>>584842703
It's mostly great, with a few bad apples. I wonder if the japs know about ENG rinne's super racist impression of them
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>>584844419
Naturally, it's all me.
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>>584842502
Just figure out that are just the la- spell voice lines.
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>>584844419
anonymous is a surename
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>>584841643
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my favorite part of the anni is that since it is another good human knight
I will have more time to save gems for evil beastfolk possibly new class
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>>584844994
are you sure about that
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>>584844152
I do, the commonly shared opinion in this thread as long as its existed is Rinne and Sheli are really bad, the rest is mediocre to good, and the JP dub is mostly anime-tier, which can be tiring
It's not Souls-tier voice acting, but not much is
That being said, I hope they get Jouji Nakata and do a frightening male character with him one of these days
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I play in English not because I prefer it, but because there are too many lines without subtitles and it would bother me not to know what they were saying.
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>>584844152
I remember one time an ESL got mad because I was making fun of the dub.
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>>584845237
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>>584844152
honestly i wouldn't be surprised if that's temporarily the case during anni season
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>>584845531
i love rinne's engrish
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I play in english not because it's superior, but because for the longest time there was no other option and I've gotten used to the voices so the japanese ones sound weird. Objectively speaking, the japanese track is superior.
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>>584844213
Prishe looks at me like this while I fuck Chloe every night (I am a very poor adventurer and can only afford a single room)
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>>584845249
Sleepy Sheli and Arian have gripped me dry already.
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English jeweler: laugh riot, makes me reach for my crashing dollar to buy his shiny bones then plan for a beach vacation i will never embark on
Japanese jeweler: makes me want sushi, which reminds me i can only afford grocery store california rolls, i spurn his yellow bones, mount my chloe and ride away
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Do you know any macro worth trying? I'm getting tired of farming same cave for months.
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>>584847263
English Heinrico: Nigger
Japanese Heinrico: Nigger
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>>584847360
Code your own or try to hobble something together with Klick'r on your phone (or an emulator if those still work idk)
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bigfoot just ate my ass, time to go grind this frostbite shit sucks
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>>584847515
Did you set him on fire? Try again without doing that, he's easy when not berserk
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>>584846960
>no tail
pathetic.
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>>584847263
heavily relate
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>>584846960
the yuzu alt....
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does anyone else just save up to roll for dupes in order to discipline your current party? I haven't felt a new character for awhile, I think I already found my party
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best wizards?
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>>584849068
I mostly look for new inherits for my favorites
I regret not grabbing galb for savia but I have benis/alt on shiou and amelia
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>>584849415
>best wizards?
Werdna
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>>584849068
I've been doing the opposite recently, I'm happy with my main team and have been focusing on branching out.
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>>584848957
>yuzu alt
for half anni
surely you can save 40k jimmies in 6 months
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>>584849068
I'm saving for Liv's alt, which I couldn't get before.
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>>584797792
>i need my hekking QoL (cheats) and chores marked on the map with notifications and reminders!
there's millions of other gachaslop that has what you want rwo
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>>584797792
>>584850237
chests/bone seller shouldn't have a timer because they're part of the normal dungeon crawling experience, and anything that reminds us this is a gacha/GaaS should be kept out of that space.
but mausoleum, both crucible and tallow, should have a timer because it's just a gacha chore confined to its own area
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>>584797792
Because all of this is missing it makes this game feel way more relaxing than most gacha and less like I'm doing chores.
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>>584849068
That's me.
>Saving for Amelia alt
>Saving for Yuzu Alt
>saving for Liv Alt
>Saving for more Berkanan and Prishe copies
The only new character I'm saving for is a potential beastwoman Healer/Priest.
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>>>>>>more prishe copies
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>>584849526
>galb for savia
is that actually a big boost?
also are you a beastfolk fucker only?
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Just another two years and some las then I can use this ring.
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JD really expects the main content to be farming A4 and alabastard cave
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>>584851852
you dont need this
you dont need to farm this
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>>584852241
I could stop now that I have 6 copies to outfit a full team with the passives, but will I?
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>>584851653
>is that actually a big boost?
probably not but I heard its not reduced as an inherit and want to try it now
>also are you a beastfolk fucker only?
yes.
I swap in alice for the harder fights but anything I just farm/auto is full beastfolk
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I pulled the new knight but I have two levelled knights already. Should I just feed her to Savia?
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>>584851852
From where
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My dad works at Drecom, half-anni will be a black pantheress Monk with a butch haircut named Dyke Tyson
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>>584852947
Morgus, limit of one per month. If you want a farmable 5* red ebonsteel ring (bracelet of hatred), they added the sovereign demon to the north castle last month.
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>>584852915
I did this, I'm not sure what the proc rate is desu but its def lower than that wolf vid the anon posted
3 inherit vs 5 normal
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bake the bread nya
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>>584852496
what's the team
>shiou/amelia/chloe
>yuzu/mc/savia
?
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no bread until nyontents
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>>584853320
The obligatory Debra Wilson character. Our next dungeon will be Persona level bad.
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I want my Aria to eat Galabussy's inherit
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More Aria here
>>584854976
>>584854976
>>584854976
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>>584854476
>savia/amelia/shiou
MC/ X / yuzu
X can be alice / debra(morgus buff for mausoleum) / chloe, etc
really I want a new evil pref, neutral tolerable beastfolk to balance it out
I have behind cover7 on savia and it procs A LOT
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>>584853432
Do you regret doing it?
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>>584855732
using scrolls was probably a bit much but its another layer
and every bit adds up
I also got her within the first 33 rolls
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>>584855048
what is your yuzu equipped with?
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>>584856976
a pin + atk / acc / sur gear?
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>>584857090
I thought you were using a ninjato yuzu for a second lol
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>>584858072
lol
I've had MC do that a few times but not yuzu
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>>584856012
Okay, guess I'll do the same.
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>>584858169
but she wouldn't be better off in the backline? if you have amelia/chloe/savia at the very least some of those would be in the backline no?
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>>584858293
obv yuzu is better in the backline, I just tried it like once
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>>584836923
Don't know about optimal, since I almost never bother with GB but all my knights are around 1100. That's mostly just by equipping heavy silver gear.
I guess if you really try to min max you can get to around 1300ish easy. Stuff like heavy snow boots and altering more defense on your gear.
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>>584861957
>1100
combined def/mdef?
I'm late and trying to follow



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