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Sisters Novitiate edition

Previous thread: >>584386453

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
1.13.0 Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-13-0-patch-notes/125866
NEW LIVE EVENT - Allies and Adversaries:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/special-live-event-allies-and-adversaries-depths-of-the-damned-out-now/125968
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210
>Acknowledged but barely discussed :
Left4Dead
Deep Rock Galactic
Killing Floor
Payday
Helldivers 2
Earth Defense Force
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
Barotrauma
No More Room in Hell 2
Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2
Vermintide 2
Jump Space

and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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first for LA FRANCE
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>>584784821
un ptit kebab chef?
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>584784821
>>584784890
Un ptit kebab, chef? Macron explosion bismillah tout ça tout ça
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do you think
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>>584785076
je trouve votre sauce samuraii forte nerfée
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>>584767852
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>>584785204
>sauce samurai
This mozerfucker is belgian, not french
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>>584785595
wait... I'm not racist? is this AI?
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>>584785595
Her IQ is still 70
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>>584785768
Yes.
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>>584785792
So shes even better than your modern foid?
I'll take it.
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>>584785792
Perfect.
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>>584785934
Even though scrotes are knuckle draggers barely able to complete sentences when you speak to them
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Melee ogryn feels bad to play. It feels like you do no damage and feels like you don't contribute much to the team.
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>>584786040
Bro, you're not a girl
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I will make a dark brown Sister, and none of you can stop me! Brown sugar is hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwTck53BImw
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>>584786082
True if you're bad, very untrue if you're good
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>>584786151
Neither are you so stop pretending
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>>584786082
Ogryn has the mostest filler-weapons, but he is pretty good.
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All my characters are brown, female and short haired.
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/copeg/gers don't even discuss darktide anymore, they just shitpost and look at you like this, waiting for a reply
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>>584786082
I really like charge ogryn with borovian pickaxe and HH
It's pretty potent for feeling like an outright shredder, It's what I run on 40 with friends when I get bored.
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>>584786402
Maybe you really are a girl because that comeback was retarded as fuck
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>>584786520
That's hardly brown even by american standards.
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>>584787068
You can't make darker characters in darktide sadly I really wanted to make a giga nigga jamaican ogryn but he just looks like your average french citizen mahmmud
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I love this lil nigga. The only cherub I'm having.
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>>584786208
based
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>>584786304
I know it does good damage by checking the scoreboard but it doesn't feel like it.
Another thing that feels bad with ogryn is how you need to be constantly dodging and sliding to stay alive. But it feels bad since you'd expect ogryn to be the class that has to do it the least to do well. Like you'd expect ogryn to be the "stand your ground and punch the enemy hard" class, not the dodge class.
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Mister of Battle was real
God damn
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You doubted.
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can't wait for SoB release so skitti goes on sale
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Bismillah c'est les ténèbres
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>>584788365
ok mohamed
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>All eveidence points to Sisters release in december
>"DUUUDE THE DECEMBER RELEASE IS GONNA BE SOME DAEMON STUFF NEVERMIND THAT SISTERS FIGHT CULTISTS AND DAEMONS AND NEVERMIND ALL THE FACT THAT SISTERS HAVE MORE DATAMINED SHIT THAN ARBITE DID!"
Why does Mr.E always gotta have the most dumbass takes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j12Dru3x-Ps
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>>584788984
isn't she blacklisted
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>>584789147
>she
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>>584788984
>novitiate might get a cherub companion
It was cool when arbites got the cyber-mastiff, but giving 3 of them a companion just feels lame and half baked. It just reeks of "we can't come up with anything new"
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>>584788984
Buy an ad, faggot.
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>>584788984
It's funny they still keep coping it's sister of battle when it is obviously novitiate.
Also on top he and every other jewtuber are missing the point that the reason why arbites and skittle brought so many new players into the game is because those were cool and hyped classes, not because they were released in the summer. They could've released arby and skitarii in winter and they would've pulled similiar numbers regardless.
The reason why hive scum had so few players during the No Man's Land update was entirely because that nobody actually wanted hive scum as a class and you can see the direct evidence in the steam charts during the DLC release. And the weeks of bitching and moaning previously before the reveal even.

Novitiate is going to sell decently well, I'm sure of it, at least 44k like arbites did. But it certainly won't sell as much if it actually was a proper sororitas in power armor instead, for the simple reason that Novitiates aren't that popular or interesting being honest.
If we got a real sororitas in power armor, the steam charts would probably jump up to 50k-60k like skitarii did, if not more.
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>>584787743
Damn, what happened to his eye?
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>>584791104
something happened to his eye for an amazing reason
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>>584791104
Gaze into it, Nigga, and thou shall see...
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Are you still trusting the plan?
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>>584792506
We will get power swords, plasma weapons, autopistol, dualwield swords, evisc, mace, autogun, regular sword, flamer, maybe a melta

You think "wow we might get some of this cool uinique shit" but you won't
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>>584792506
You see that superior with the power sword and plasma pistol? Yeah.
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are you guys actually into warhammer? like, you play darktide due to your interest in warhammer?
aren't they completely different genres? i got into darktide cause i like coop pve games
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>>584792903
Flame pistol, sword and shield, crossbow
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>>584793310
I love warhammer the tabletop game and the franchise, but I also love coop pve games. I get to satisfy both of my affections with this game.
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>>584793405
you got very lucky then.
i always ignored the tabletop game cause it looked expensive and i'm poor
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>>584793310
Not really, I think the setting is alright, 40k is a bit too obviously aimed at plastic collector manchildren and has worldbuilding issues because of it but it's still cool

I would never play a game just because it's warhammer
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>>584793520
its not super expensive anymore, they cut the entry fee to like $200 to $300
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>>584793520
That's a good call, it's a very expensive hobby and it's extremely easy to have an "eyes are bigger than my stomach" kind of situation. As in, buying more models before you complete your current models and you end up having a massive backlog. I have the money to support those poor decisions, but it's still bad. I ended up just giving away/selling most of my backlog because I know I'll never get to it and I hate hoarding.
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>>584793310
i got into 40k after playing vermintide and space hulk i didn't know what power armor was before then so i thought everyone just had goofy proportions and anime armor like warcraft
vidya can make a setting seem really cool if you are at all interested in tabletops it makes you want to try it
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>>584793898
>power armor was before then
>never play halo
actual zoomer
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>>584793520
can always play it on tabletop sim
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>>584794239
i played reach recently, it is the only good one
i tried to play CE but it dropped the cool alien war for some gay zombie plotline i don't care about
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>>584786208
You should make a Sister that looks like that instead but I agree darkies can be nice
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>>584794985
Felinids never ever.
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>>584793520
i only bought new models when i actually felt like painting, it took me like 2 years to make my first thousand points but it didn't feel like it cost much.
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>>584789802
of course they're gonna get a cherub. The ecclesiarchy and sisters love them.
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>>584794653
because youre a zoomer, halo was super big 20 year ago from being one of the first big, major, 3d fps games. back then you didnt play games for the story, sure having a good story is nice, but there wasnt this movement of making games your art house project of having deep moral philosophy, you played the game because it was a game and it was fun to play
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>>584795179
This is a lovely picture of me
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>>584790825
novitates are sisters of battle :)
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>>584794653
Halo is a butchered franchise but the older games are still fun and the lore and stuff are still cool
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>>584794239
>>584795387
Dude, zoomers were definitely old enough to play Halo when it was relevant. Virtually all the kids I knew back then had an Xbox and were loving it. You’re thinking of alphoomers.
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>>584794653
I kinda had the same experience when i played it for the first time actually. I wish Halo wasn't about Halos and we just got a cool world at war style trilogy where you slowly fight back against the ayys and eventually plant the united earth flag over their bombed out alien capital.
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>>584795770
zoomers were born around the same time as halo, and wouldve been playing 3, odst, or reach, when it peaked
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>>584795909
the halos are cool as shit though
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>>584796779
The flood just felt boring to me, the 3 way battles just meant you didn't have to fight anyone all mission.
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>>584779409
His logic doesn't matter, he walks backwards from the conclusion, which is sob announcement at skull
>>584780384
Doubt
>>584781435
The source of the leak is Jo and she leaked the scum previously and in general is very bad at following NDA. He knows that. It's possible he got a confirmation from another source too.
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>H40
>play taunt ogryn
>joined by rampage scum and flame psyker
>use pickaxe myself for variety
>the entire mission is a long chain of fuck ups and silly mistakes I shouldn't be doing
>fail the mission
>check built-in scoreboard
>I some-fucking-how only did 800k damage out of the team's 4 million
Holy shit I'm playing like ass. I really need to take a break from this game for a while so people don't need to suffer my retarded incompetency.

>tl:dr
Team Unga, me Bunga
Team Good, me Bad. Problem me.
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>>584796382
True but a of them played the older ones too because siblings/parents put them on it to reward or distract them or keep them occupied (I did this with my brother)
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>>584796779
Yeah, tehy kill aleins and dont afraid of anything
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>>584797346
but their frame of referece is halo, and halo looks like shit compared to new things, compared what millennials wouldve grown up with, the 2d shooters, like doom, wolfenstein, or marathon
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>>584797116
>The source of the leak is Jo and she leaked the scum previously
People predicted Scum being the next class in summer of 2025 right after Arbites released. It happened in this very general btw.
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>>584795179
I didn't give you permission to take this photo of me
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>>584795390
>>584798451
coop sex with these two anons
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>>584797736
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. I’m only stating that they had experiences and memories with the older Halo games back in the 2000s. People born in the 2010s are the ones who are mostly clueless to stuff like that.
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>>584793310
>>584793805
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>>584793805
Yep i wish this setting would liberate itself from the plastic toys. It has great potential even when it's being drag down by that.
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>>584801989
those plastic toys make up 95% of their revenue, that isn't happening any time soon, warhammer will always be a tabletop before anything else
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>>584801989
it is literally the biggest table top franchise, to drop it would be like giving 40 million tons of gold for 10lbs of clay, that would be the most retarded business decision you could ever do
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>>584793310
I originally got into Vermintide because I used to play the tabletop game and had a massive Empire army, so the idea of being able to play as a regular Imperial soldier was highly appealing to me.
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>>584801989
I agree but also what the other guys said, they make a fortune charging out of their asses for that stuff. Still, it wouldn’t hurt for them to branch out more.
>>584802740
I get what you mean but Kruber and Saltz aren’t really normal. They’re like mid tiers in the wider universe.
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>>584801989
The minis literally make up over 95% of GW's income, getting rid of the minis is the most retarded thing they could do.
Just accept the fact that these games are just glorified adverts and live life.
Them getting rid of the minis would be the worst thing too because it just signals that GW is 100% shifting 40k and its focus for normies. And if you have paid any attention to the past 15 years you'd realize that normies ruin fucking everything they touch.
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>>584793310
I love both franchises. Vermintide/Darktide being Warhammer is definitely a selling point, I wouldn’t have been as interested if not for that, but they’re coop games and I do like this formula so I probably still would have tried them out eventually. I should mention I’ve never touched touched the table top game in my life, or any table top game, my interest is purely in the universe itself, I live in the middle of nowhere where there’s zero market for it, but I do love hearing about the drama surrounding it, like it apparently being a big deal to certain people if you 3D print models. I wouldn’t mind giving it a try if I ever got the chance though.
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>>584803936
Ubersreik 5 run on kinda the same rule of cool as Gotrek and Felix. Think the Darktiders have some sort of secret plot gimmick tied to Grendyl/Sephoni. Both also benefit from Nurglites being decaying fodder when compared to other chaos factions.
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>auric quickplay EU server
>daemonhost on the way
>I go first and take a safe path
>rest of the team fights poxwalkers then take the most risky way near the daemonhost
>they wake it up
>one of them dies
Sometime I lack the words in English or in my own language to express how fucking much I hate and despise the average nigger playing online games. Call me a boomer but I don't remember people online being THAT retarded in the early 2000
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>>584793310
>Into Warhammer
Not really, got familiar with 40k through DoW1 and 2. Good enough for me to like the 40k setting casually, Eldar, SoB and Imperial Guard. Mostly latter two for 40k, since I grow out of really into Elves and appreciate Dwarves as fantacy race more. Darktide happens to be a solid coop experience after I quit PD2 beside DRG and becomes a stable 40k related thing for me.
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>>584803936
Kruber's backstory, aesthetics and general demeanor are still very much those of a run-of-the-mill mook, and that's what mattered to me. I don't really care about power level wankery.
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Why can't melee weapons be as simple to use as this bad boy? Spam lights for crowds, heavies for beefy targets. Armor? Too many melee weapons suffer from wacky combo sets that need you to cancel combos with blocking or something, weave light and heavy because... reasons? I wish we could customize combos.
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>>584808891
Because havoc niggers pretend like that's skill expression so it has to be in the game (they all use mods to automate the optimal attack chains)
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>>584802303
>pandering to top paying customers ruins a product
it do be like that. It's also why the video game industry is fucked
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>>584809058
>they all use mods to automate the optimal attack chains
lmao no way?
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>>584808891
i feel like it's still too slow for groups of crushers. while i'm killing one, the others get me
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>>584810224
NTA but it's very common and they claim it's "just doing what you could do manually anyway" while also snubbing their nose at simple weapons with pleasing movesets
PvE game elitists are, as you might expect from that combination of words, the absolute dumbest niggers around
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>>584809326
>how dare the company that started off as selling miniatures decide to keep selling miniatures
Somethings just aren't made for you, and that is ok.
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>>584805360
Gotrek and Felix are genuinely impressive and attained their power through skill and/or their weapons. Kruber and Saltz are also impressive and exceptional but just have a lower ceiling.
>>584806836
Barring stuff like the Grail Knight shit I guess that’s true enough, though I don’t really remember all the details of his backstory either.
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>>584788984
Mister E and Tanner!
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>>584810952
I don't care anon, this isn't an ethical debate. Companies aren't my friends, I don't care what moral justifications they have or don't. The product is just worse because of it, all I care about
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>>584810224
More common that you think. Add enemy outline, healthbars, specialist spawn feed, spiderman sense, AoE range circles, etc and you have a completely different experience.
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>>584811134
>The product is just worse because of it
Just because it doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it is worse.
Somethings just aren't made for you and it is ok.
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>>584810952
>>584811210
>Somethings
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>>584811210
You can act like it's subjective but WH40k lacks a cohesive world because they want to retain all possibilities for future lines of plastic.
The games are also heavily moderated by GW to ensure that nobody is creating demand for plastic shapes that don't exist, and are funneling demand into plastic shapes that do exist.

You can bend yourself backwards and screech "IT'S NOT FOR YOU THEN IT'S NOT!" but the reality is that the games would be objectively better if not for the plastic shapes.
>but I prefer the plastic shapes!
I don't care, I prefer video games. Good for you.
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>>584810867
Martyrdom attack speed buff and perfect strike for cleaving carapace works fine on armor squads, just spam lights
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>>584811158
Every time I'm stuck between some fires and cannot see through the fires and smoke and I'm totally disoritned I think back about that one time some faggot told me that
>healthbars aren't cheating
>removing fire effects isn't cheating
>it just helps you see better
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>>584810224
>>584810921
Different anon as well, but it's also why fatshark actually fixed things like the FGS/Puncture interaction, and why they made Uncanny Strike deal brittleness stacks instead of giving you rending. Because people were abusing macros to do insane damage with them. Meanwhile they can't be assed to fix basic shit like the ripper gun's stability stat being inverted even though it'd take them all of five minutes of devtime to fix one line of code to do that, and that's a bug that's been in the game for YEARS.
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>>584810921
bunch of absolute clowns. I reached H40 for 2 seasons some months ago and didn't come back when I saw it was not worth it.
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Anyone has that webm of "average havoc pro" playing full bright with ridiculous hud?
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>>584811597
>perfect strike
but /coopg/ told me it was a BAD blessing!
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>>584813232
I never saw a webbum of something like that but I have this, with someone even using a mod to break the textures for better visibility.
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>>584813740
This shit looks impossible to read.
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>>584813876
stay in malice then, you clearly ain't havoc material
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>>584813937
The absolute funniest thing about this image is the clearance rank of 21.
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>>584814323
The joke is that the average retard that has meltdowns over h40 uses cheats exactly like picrel and then gets stuck in the 20s trench exactly like picrel.
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>>584813602
works on my machine
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>>584813740
What map even is this
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>>584811597
>perfect strike
Fucking retard
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>>584798113
And when sob is announced at skull you will say everyone predicted it too
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>>584814528
I'm going to ignore your poor english but why would someone "have meltdown over cheats" while using all those cheats?
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>>584815064
It cleave armor on crits, the fuck you are supposed to do against 10 crushers?
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>>584811458
>but WH40k lacks a cohesive world
And that is by design and has always been so since the start.
That's the entire point and appeal of the setting, you get to do whatever you want. Which is exactly what you want for a tabletop game.
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>>584815696
Not spam light attacks like you do
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>>584815864
What do you do then?
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>>584813740
If you don't play like this you are a CARRIED and DECLINED shitter.
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>>584817349
I daresay you are literally griefing if you don't use these cheats.
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I don't understand the culture around here. Why do you nogs not post friend codes to the thread so that you can play with eachother?
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>>584817761
everyone here except me is bad at the game
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>>584817761
because most people here are brown europeans
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>>584817761
That's how you end up falling in love with a tranny anon
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>>584797274
That's good damage for a taunt ogryn if your team only did 4kk total
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>>584797274
No that's about right. I play Flame Psyker and usually do 2+ million damage. One game I even did 3 million. You were probably the 2nd highest damage. Chin up, taunt Ogryn is the hero that lets me shine so thank you.
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>>584793253
She'll be the new faction rep NPC to girlboss you around over the vox.
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>>584818281
>oxymoron the post
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>>584818134
This can only be true if you look like that
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Hi, I'm new to Darktide. I really like Zealot and enjoy playing a melee frontliner. The relic sword is kino. I don't even like most of the guns I've tried, the relic sword is all I need.

>Look up Zealot builds
>SAR YOU WILL BE OF USING THE FLAMER DO THE NEEDFUL SARR
>ok i'll try the flamer
>it's tiny little gay puff of aids
Nope. I'm sword only.
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>>584819025
Can't believe /copeg/ isn't full of Italians, Spanish and Portuguese
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>>584819375
Take boltgun or infantry lasgun, the fast firing mark
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>>584819375
refund the game, quick
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I wont buy SoB because I dont wanna play as a girl, I dont care if she is overpowered
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>>584817761
Same problems as with all online coop games. We might not be in the same timezones, we might not play the same difficulties, we don't speak the same languages, we don't play at the same times, and our playing styles can differ a lot .I've played with some /coopg/ anons before but ultimately our gaming habits just don't match, in a lot of ways. And that's just with people who are all playing the same game!
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>>584817761
We cooperate in keeping the thread bumped and the status quo upheld. To cooperate with your fellow man is fantasy, as if one were to claim that ratmen are real.
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>>584819375
I really, REALLY want a zealot talent that remove your ranged weapon, probably a martyrdom keystone mod
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>>584819375
>starts a game
>looks at builds online
lol refund and kill yourself zoomer
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>>584817761
Most multilayer generals don’t play with each other dude. That’s just the nature of these things due to a number of factors. The ones that do are the exception.
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>>584819375
Flamer is one of those weapons that sucks for most of the game because the game is too easy for it to do anything. When you get into Auric Maelstrom and Havoc there is such a density of elites, specials, bosses and horde that having a Flamer is a massive boon to the team because you hit EVERYTHING with it and they all have such high health that the burn ticks are actually useful. Any difficulty less and everything will die too fast to make use of it.

Plus with the Flamer the primary fire is a joke, that's the puff you mentioned, you're supposed to hold down right click then left click to do a long spray. Anyway, don't bother with the Flamer until you get to Auric Maelstroms and 25+ Havoc.
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>>584819409
Sadly those whites don’t post here it’s true and tragic yes…
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I did all 3 campaigns and I'm level 27. So now I just play quickplay for currencies and experience points, yeah?

>>584819574
I enjoyed the spearhead boltgun for big boss mobs. I haven't tried regular boltgun yet. I really like going toe-to-toe again huge boss mobs and learning how to dodge and block stuff.
The combat shotty and stub revolvers are also nice.

>>584819750
That would be awesome. I want to play purely melee. I suppose I'm allowed to, given how many melee talents benefit Zealot.
>>584819936
>Flamer is bad until lategame
Ohh that makes sense. Yeah I only recently started doing Heresy difficulty and I still feel like I can do most of the runs with just my sword. I'm definitely not ready for the really hard stuff. I'll keep the flamer I have in my pocket and upgrade it later then.
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>>584819375
>>584819936
the flamer primary fire is just meant to stagger enemies, but it's really good at that
good against pouncing poxhounds, and such
you're supposed to kill things with your melee and/or the flamer's secondary fire
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>>584820195
The game design makes sense once you realize it was made by Swedes. The whole point is to make you question the very reality of reality itself with absurd design choices. This is how Sweden governs itself.
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Telopots was right about /coopg/
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There are people living on this very Earth who can get lost on the train mission.
A FUCKING TRAIN
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>>584821581
I can understand very briefly losing your orientation on higher difficulties but after it’s over there’s no way anyone should be outright lost simple directional cues and the fact you’ve already been there should make it clear where to go
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>>584821581
There are people living on this very Earth who can get lost in the steam store an accidentally end up playing darktide
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My fatshark friend code is
4058263646
EU region
anyone wanna play some Aurics?
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>>584815815
why did you bother replying if you're just gonna repeat my own argument back at me
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>>584822997
i'm NA, sorry anon :(
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>Fists wrapped in holy scripture
My God this game is so kino
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Geheimnisnacht tower of treachery is unbelievably hard jesus christ
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>>584819375
>>584826102
ANON NOOO DON'T BUY COSMETICS!
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>>584826371
I didn't buy this cosmetic. I earned it. With the Penances.
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>>584819375
The bolt beestol is really good even if the revolver is more fun
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>>584826510
that mask and those legs are from penances? (in the first image)
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>>584826102
40k games never miss on aesthetic

>>584826616
They are
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>>584826616
Oh, no, the mask I bought because it was cool. It changes my character's voice to be kinda radio-staticky which sounds cool. I dunno about the legs, I probably bought those too.
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>>584826734
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>>584826829
>nnnooooo dont buy cosmetics
why, its my money
>j-just dont okay
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>>584827152
You do you anon, just don't go overboard. I would know, I did, I have multiple paid cosmetics for every class and I'm probably not gonna stop slopping at the trough.
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>>584827329
And what's wrong with a little... excess?
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>>584793310
I am autistic so I will play watch or read just about anything 40k related. But darktide got me addicted with the gameplay and now I can't stop even after hundreds of hours, thought I was just gonna play a few hours of the only game that lets you play as a karkin guardsman for once
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>>584827692
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>>584797274
if rampage scum and flame psyker didn't eat into your dmg % as ogryn then they would be ass.
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>>584793310
Like a lot of anons, DoW got me back in the day, I only read books and play games though, I don't play the tabletop because that's an expensive and time consuming hobby to be taking up, too expensive for how easy it is to fuck up and for how few people actually play tabletop where I am.
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>>584808891
>Too many melee weapons suffer from wacky combo sets that need you to cancel combos with blocking or something
bro what are you smoking? 90% of weapon marks in the game are some combination of
>use L1-H2-repeat for X
>use H1-L2-repeat for Y
with X / Y being crowd/individual depending on the weapon mark

sometimes they get spicy and ask you to do 2 or 3 lights in the sequence to get to the repeat.
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>>584810921
>>584810224
who the fuck uses mods for melee attack chains outside of a few abusable cases? most of them are easy and obvious. I stopped checking online info hundreds of hours ago, nowadays I just go into the psykanium or a heresy game and feel out the combos I wanna use by trial and error, they are very systematic for the most part
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>>584820245
>want to play purely melee. I suppose I'm allowed to
you will die to snipers because outside of havoc your team won't shoot the fucking snipers

either get godlike at throwing the knives or bring a combat shotgun, the variant with the single target slug
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>>584819375
should we tell him? I think we shouldn't tell him.
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>>584822997
>>584826067
>spent an hour waiting
>no one joined any match
>no one sent a friend request
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>>584829237
I played aurics on EU today but I am bad at the game and I would be ashamed if anons here saw me play
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>>584829316
I wouldn't give a shit. You're good to me!
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>>584829529
you haven't seen me play kek
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>>584826317
>tower of treachery is unbelievably hard
ftfy
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>>584829575
I can solo Auric as Zealot. I don't give a shit about how bad you are at this game.
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>>584829575
He hasn't but I have, and trust me, for EU standards you're alright.
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>>584828984
>the variant with the single target slug
I really like that gun, I've used it a few times. I want to like the knives but they're a little hard to aim when I'm knee-deep in a billion trash mobs.
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What's the real difference between bolt pistol and spearhead bolt gun? They both seem to feel the same for single target headshots.
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>>584829736
shouldn't be playing auric then
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>>584828798
Havoc players
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>>584829945
biggest issue with knives is the fact that the aiming reticle in melee mode is tiny and hard to make out when there's a mixed horde with all kinds of particle effects floating around

the shotgun is IMO the best all rounded backup weapon on zealot, on auric at least. the regular shells can quickly wipe huge numbers of poxxers, the special shell can hit snipers all the way up on those obnoxious platforms on consigment yard where they like to camp out
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>>584829672
Tower is only hard if you don't know the 1532 or 3421 ways to unlock the crypts.
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>>584817761
you will get named, shamed and doxxed if you play suboptimally
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>>584813937
I still don't know if this is real or shooped
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>>584789802
imagine the stuttering with 3 different companions all having memory leaks at the same time

actually skittles can do 2 by himself
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>Fatshark quietly updates all las-weaponry in the game to shoot little yellow bolts and gives them matching "pew pew" sounds
How would you respond without sounding deranged, unhinged, wacko, chudlike, etc
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>>584831464
*fart* NIGGERS! :D
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>>584831464
install the mod that fixes it. if none exists, make it.
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>>584831464
I wouldn't say anything
I would listen
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>>584831464
Mod it back
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>>584831464
i axed my nigga gemini to snoop out why GW did this and he say it cause they finna make a tw show, modern audiences won't understand what's goin on if lasers don't fly like they do in star wars and marvel media
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>>584830238
Bolter is better at mag dumping against armor packs and bosses than bolt pistol. Bolt pistol has better handling (weapon swal speed, reload speed), so it's easier to use to fast sniping specials. Few melee Weapon Specialist Vet may use bolt pistol. Zealot can use explosive mark bolt pistol to surpress gunners pack, make some space when surrounded and bleed blessing works well with Zealot bleed talent nodes, Scourge and Blinded by blood.
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>>584832114
I don't know about that but an exec going "MAKE IT LIKE STAR WARS" is probably it
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>>584831464
yellow is fine, bolts are cringe
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>>584832028
And learn?
>>584832114
So true Tyrese
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>>584831464
Why are they ripping off Helldivers?
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>>584833093
Helldivers laser weaponry does beams doesn't it?
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>>584833440
Helldivers does beams and lasers from weapons that are explicitly called laser weapons ingame and the devs refuse to elaborate
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>>584831464
Keep playing the game. Fatshark can't be bothered to fix wrong description in one of bolter blessings and wrong images for two Scum auras, the crit aura and gunslinger aura are wrongly swapped. Yellow bolts won't happen.
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Best way to farm diamantine?
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>>584833918
Pick it up :)
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>>584832114
>modern audiences
I believe it.
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>>584833918
havoc weeklies
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is there a lore reason everyone in Warhammer has retarded hair
scraps of hair on the side, nearly bald, looking like a raider from fallout
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>>584833440
Scythe, trident, dagger, laser cannon and orbital lasers all shoot continuous beams. Sickle, DE sickle, talon, sai, quasar and the nova to come all work like nu 40K lasguns. Quasar and nova both charge up to fire. Of those, only the trident actually fires like Darktide/DoW lasguns.
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>>584835646
That’s far from everyone it’s mostly people in this game and the explanation is usually that they’re bad at animating it
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>>584835649
Well, DoW 1/2 lasguns. I presume 3 does as well, but I've never played it nor watched anyone play it.
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>>584835646
Most humans in 40k are stimmed up wild eyed peasants worked harshly and relentlessly by the imperium until they burn out and their bodies fail under the strain or just plain die in the course of their duties. Its meatgrinder rules.
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>>584835803
DoW2 lasguns shot yellow beams, DoW4 lasguns shoot bolts. Don't know what you mean by DoW3, weird that they skipped a whole number though.
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>>584836278
>before coopg vs after coopg
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>>584784850
Late response but everything about the map feels like it was released with no testing
>the start of the map has a lack of resources while the zombie count feels like its at evac level, gets worse from there
>the road to the auditorium is the only part where you have any chance for resources but the objectives suck to do (enclosed spaces while zombies do not stop coming)
>the auditorium itself was not made to be traversed in the opposite direction and for some reason has awful layouts randomly where you dont have access/sky bridge to the other side so youre forced to enter through the locker rooms
>the early evac doesnt open until you start the last objective which is pure pain
And like you said, the beams are fucking terrible to find, garbage map, I enjoy challenges on Nightmare but this feels totally unfair to deal with.
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i don't really find arbites fun
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I don’t find YOU fun
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>>584838506
I thought we had something special...
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where is the sm2 general?
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I don't find myself fun...
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>>584837671
>>584838506
>>584838810
We’re all fun :)
>>584838808
Over on /vm/
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>>584838506
Oh yeah? *HONK HONK*
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*HONK HONK* NIGGERS! :oD
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>>584833667
Helldivers yes, helldivers 2 no
Whatever interns they hired to make weapons for second game didn't play the original
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>>584839592 for >>584833440
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I just don't like you no more.
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>>584839674
colin is a great actor
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>>584839795
...on opposite day
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>>584840116
shut up he was great in phone booth and fright night
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*walks in*
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>>584843842
*opens the door, gets on the floor*
It's me, Goku
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>>584813937
>Every single numerical element isn't plastered right around the center of the screen around the mouse
Unironically better than some of the "UI's I've seen retards here post.
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>>584846404
the optimal placement isn't right at the center but a bit below. that way you can see what you're hitting and spot disablers over the horde but your health, toughness, stamina, buffs etc are all within field of view

this game is too intense to go looking for buffs at thr very bottom of the screen while in combat, you want to still see the enemies in your peripheral vision
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>>584793898
>he never saw Fallout, Metroid, Halo, Crysis, Titanfall, Half LIfe
How'd you miss all those games?
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>>584847079
Power Armor Is For Pussies.
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>>584847312
Thanks Duke
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is this a /copeg/ approved UI
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>>584847079
Technically it isn’t referred to as that in some of those games but yeah it’s pretty common
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>>584847935
HEV suit I think is the only one that doesn't outright give enhanced strength, but it fills the same role otherwise
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>>584847485
Soulful and approved
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>>584844835
*walks out*
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>>584788984
E is a gigantic retard that makes entire videos from shit he's stolen from here, other channels and redit.
>SoB release
Boltgun 2 is out, it didn't need to wait for 2027

>>584789147
Yes and he still simps for Fatshark, he pissed off some autist with some boring opinion and they kicked him out
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>>584853352
> NOOOOO HE STOLE FROM MY SEKRIT KLUB
you're pathetic
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>>584853426
I copyrighted this material Anon. I own Games Workshop.
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>>584853426
That's libel, you'll be hearing from our lawyers
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>>584853426
where did He imply this mongolian basketweaving forum dedicated to coping mechanisms was secret
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>>584853426
Hi E
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>>584854016
it's Mr E to you
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>>584817761
Over the years I played league, dota, overwatch, civilization, and bg3 with people from /vg/. I also played space marine, tabletop simulator, and roll20 with people from /tg/. Most of it was fine. Most people are just looking to play some games, and that has mostly been my experience.

Unfortunately, these days it's more common for those mentally ill bad eggs to shit up any effort to have a good time. Just look at this thread on average, you can't go one thread without a pair of weirdos playing the "you're poopdickschizo, my nemesis!" game. I've noticed a trend in this website as a whole where it changed from people who had an edgy sense of humor that got them banned from other sites but are still mostly normal, to actual rejects who cannot be trusted not to do something mentally ill if you give them your steam id. It's just really unfortunate, and I've been on this website across several boards since about 2006 so I know what I'm talking about.
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>>584788984
I guarantee you his only reason is that Jo said it. He knows she is leaking shit all the time.
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>>584854406
>to actual rejects who cannot be trusted not to do something mentally ill if you give them your steam id.
This, it's like most of them think like insects
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>>584854406
One thing feeds the other. People say that stuff because they’re referring to the same mentally ill people who shit things up and ruin it for everyone else.
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>>584828798
I do. I was using unga bunga before skitarius because holding a button is much more comfortable than spamming clicks. Learning moveset isn't a problem, my wrist hurts after one game even if I spam heavy attacks only on a weapon like arc maul.
Yes, it's cheating, but it's allowed so I will keep doing it. The alternative is to cope with pain (and I don't even want to imagine long term effects).
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>>584854406
You know what changed.
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>>584856102
>nearly a decade out of date
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>>584856801
And there's machine translation in the mix, too
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>>584855072
How much milk did you drink while growing up?
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i hate the water purifier mission on havoc
oh my god
shooters everywhere
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>>584856801
dont worry, heres one up to date
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>>584858506
i don't even have to worry after they added gunner resist talent to zealot
psykers always freak out and try to "save" me with the bubble but i can just charge right into the gunfire like it's nerf bullets and chop all their heads off
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>>584858752
grim
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Don't You Fucking Think About It.
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>>584860273
its actually worse than you think, china segregates itself from the internet at large with their own sites, so it might as well not even exist
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>>584858752
I've tried hard to be accepting, but honestly I don't like that there are so many indians and muslims in other countries.
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>>584858752
If I wasn't afraid of poo mixed with nuclear fallout (pooclear) being sent into the stratosphere and oceans I'd recommend a swift nuking of India just to be rid of the issue.
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could you not do that.
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>>584858752
every day i think "i'm fully racist, i can't become more racist" and by the end of the day i'm more racist than i thought i could be
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>>584865285
Not me though, I'm the most racist man there is. I can't become more racist.
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>>584865906
>>584865285
Who's more racist
The man who hates every race including his own or the man who hates every race but who exalts his own race far above the others?
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>>584866004
cant get any more racist than uncle ruckus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8YWUp9rzd8
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>>584865906
>To travel the stars, to wander their worlds, and record their vistas, has been my eternal pursuit. But more than that, it has been to meet beings beyond description. I have conversed with fruiting fungi, ridden the air currents with poly-eyed gliders. I have met one being made up of many, and a whole society who shared a single subconscious. Once, I discussed the cosmic order with an entity who could perceive the past, present and future simultaneously. And it has heartened me to learn that despite all their diverse forms and philosophies, their vast array of experiences, and divergent anatomies scale, they all shared one thing in common: Every single one, was inferior to me.
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>>584866683
>t. one eepy boy
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>>584865906
i always think the same. every day i become more racist
>>584866004
i hate aspects of my race but love others. i hate how weak and "empathetic" we are. we literally welcome killers with open arms and thank them for killing us.
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>load into champion quick match
>literally in spawn
>someone is already dead, one guy down before the drop off in spawn, another guy AFK
ah.
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>>584869225
Probably a spontaneous nigga moment
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>>584773908
for FUCKS sake
goddamn swedes.
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>>584869225
Champion is a complete cesspool of the worst retard you may ever encounter in ratclick. Just go into legend.
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:Threadly reminder that PBB is for retards like ratjeet
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I love PBB!
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>>584870504
fuck me there is no one in the queue. I can't even unlock the new content. who makes these decisions holy shit.
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>>584870547
Retarded tranny cum and shit swallowing mongoloid shitter
>>584870583
Based and good player
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>>584870547
I know they don't tell you this in India, but bait is supposed to be funny, creative or believable and yours is none of those.
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>You see this title? It means me and my team beat H40 without dying, and you never did.
How do you respond without souding poor and mad?
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>>584871065
Think you could do it again?
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>>584871065
i have a gf
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>>584871065
My (modded) counter is at 6 or something and I only play with randoms, what's the big deal?
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>>584871065
*shoot him in the head*
SURVIVE THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
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>>584785076
Un ptit durum sauce Andalouse, maitre-kebabier! Bruler Paris ça donne soif! Gloire à Mélenchon HAMDULILA C'EST LES TENEBRES!
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>>584870970
Go play uprising on campaign mission. Play speedy meme knoife build with 1-2 stamina as well if you like. Only timer obj slows youb down, otherwise run pass everything.
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>>584871045
>>584871059
retard sperging out
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>>584871445
I knew that would trigger you
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>>584871445
Pathetic attempt at regaining izzat when your name is suck deep.
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>>584871065
I still can keep playing the game and have fun with new contents until I bore?
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>>584871534
>>584871535
Foaming at the mouth
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>>584871660
You got my cum leaking out your mouth
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>>584871065
I had like 3 games where nobody went down the usual way but someone got randomly ledged. Yes i am mad.
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>>584871905
This is perfectly normal btw. Even with multiple TS completions, I'm still fairly sure the counter would be 4-5x as high if it weren't for the stereotypical "psyker blows himself up right before the finale" or similar isolated oopsies in an otherwise perfect run. Many of those are also barrel ledgings of course.
But it is usually the psyker or the vet.
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>>584871905
Does getting ledged count as downed for the purposes of doing penances?
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>>584872325
retard
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>>584872325
I meant ledged as fell off the map
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>>584872401
Ah, yeah, that's fair.
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>>584872352
You're really trying too hard to stirr shit, Pajeet. It shows.
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I don't care about your chorus zealot
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>>584871065
I bring up the reconnect mod and how easily everyone got that title
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>>584876404
>implying everyone who got it cheated
Nah anon there's some obvious resentment and jealousy showing, sounds pretty mad if you ask me.
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>>584876454
It was so popular they had to change how players spawned in specifically to tackle how easily abused the system was.
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>>584877492
Correction: The extremely vocal troon side that takes havoc far too seriously, mobilized their entire trooncord to make a stink on the forums and fatshark listened.
Ultimately a good change of course, but I imagine more people complained about it than actually used it. If you want to talk about fraudulent True Survivor titles, try the week or two where 3-4 arbitrators could faceroll any modifiers just because of bugged bleed.
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>>584871065
*shrugs*
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>>584846968
lmao.
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>>584847485
Actually, where can I get this?
I like this quite a lot.
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>>584879836
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1491
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>>584871065
You see my UI? I don't need mods to play the game for me, but you do.
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>>584880360
The one time I saw a guy with that many levels he actually complained about my teammate in post game chat in auric maelstrom
NOT that serious buddy
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>>584814528
>tfw I've playing DT vanilla since launch, beat havok 40 in the 1st season with pre-rework ogryn and even now have H40 and TS
I am the worst player in this thread regardless.
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why does melk like my psyker but treats everyone else like shit?
she's my only female character, is that it?
he reminds of my university professors
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>>584880952
'avoque?
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>>584847485
that's the first UI that doesn't look like complete ass.

My only complains would be the diamond shapes for IV, III, and II. It's a soulless slop shape that doesn't belong on here.
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I don't understand vet invisibility, it's absolute shit.
Cooldown is too long for an active gameplay, too weak for a team gameplay.
A flanking game? Most of the locations in this game are a fucking corridor, you also run the risk of simply not getting through the enemies or getting trapped if you stand in the wrong place.
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>>584881913
Melk generally doesn't like the more "spicy" personalities like Zealots and Hive Scums. He likes Loner Psykers for some reason even though they are unhinged and borderline heretics. He also shits on Cadian Vet which is weird.
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>>584882515
Goes to show that stealth should have never been added into the game.
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>>584882648
Maybe he just doesn't like Cadia. There's some mission banter for the Cutthroat with the Loose Cannon and Agitator making fun of Cadia blowing up, which only occurs at lower trust levels so you don't really hear it often.
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>>584883105
Yea i know. Cadians don't deserve it. It's like making 9/11 jokes toward NY residents the next day.
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>>584882515
>cooldown
12% CDR on curios, you also have a node that increases CDR per special or elite kill
>team gameplay
It's one of your strongest teamplay abilities next to shout for resurrecting or doing objectives. That said, you mostly use it to dump your threat rating so enemies target someone else, which lets you focus on important targets
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>>584882515
I've fallen in love with vet invis since the patch and I don't see myself ever going back to shout, at least in auric.
If you have Born Leader its a relevant amount of toughness healing for the team. It light staggers and suppresses which can be better for landing headshots. Good base damage buff unlike exe stance and synergizes with frags (which are also pretty strong this patch) since you can throw them underhand without breaking invis and it has the best synergy with the headshot strength node. Getting to ignore everything and shoot a sniper or bomber or whatever is convenient and does help the team. Simplifies clutching and reviving a LOT in situations shout wouldnt have bailed out the team (like if theyre retarded).
Basically the only time I run shout post patch is if we need to stagger bosses to proc skullcrusher
>>584882648
>He also shits on Cadian Vet which is weird.
Designated punching bag, just like Cadia
>>584883232
Maybe if they SHUT UP about it. Theyre more like Israelis with the october 6th bullshit
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>>584883418
>Cadians make a defiant last stand like true martyrs
>The rest of the Imperium doesn't care and even mocks them for it
They deserve to be edgy and grumpy, fuck the rest.
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>>584883748
It's been like 200 years since Cadia blew up, with the exception of ships popping out of the warp later than they were supposed to, none of the guardsmen who were actually there is alive anymore. It's all fake Cadians these days.
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>>584883418
The difference is that Cadians are trying to cope with losing their entire planet while Oct 7 was allowed to happen in order to create causus belli for territorial aggression.
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>>584883917
200 years is like last month in the 40k scale
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good bloody morning it is sirs
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>>584881913
>female psyker
I assume you've picked the french voice one? This one is by-the-book soldier, and Melk like those types of personalities.
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>>584886078
Melk doesn't like the Savant for whatever reason, because Abnett/Ward intended it or fartshart cannot into consistency.
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>>584886889
Weird. Might be an oversight, because he likes Professional vet and those are pretty similar personalities.
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>>584886889
He's correct in disliking the fr*nch
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>>584883013
I like the concept of Vet having an "archetype" inspired by Catachans and Zealot having an archetype inspired by Death Cult Assassins, but I wish there was an alternative to just stealth because it sucks. Especially for Zealot, which is a 'tanky' class so Shroud and reduced threat level is antithetical to team usefulness.
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You guys keep saying that Auric Storm Survivor or True Survivor titles mostly used by shitters. So which titles am I allowed to use so people won't think I'm a shitter?
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>>584888513
Poxbreaker
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>>584889145
By the time I get it every shitter will also have it...
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>Hmmm I wonder how does killing floor 3 is on halloween
>Oh wow, enemies and map looks cool
>Oh, no one plays it still...
>Oh shit, they made a battle pass for halloween?! With actually good looking stuff?!
>It's Chickenator and 6 recolors of him
HOW
HOW YIU FAIL EVEN AT BATTLE PASSES AND SHOP SKINS
HOW CAN YOU FAIL THAT SO MISERABLY AFTER 2 GAMES
YOU CANNOT EVEN GET FUCKING COSMETICS RIGHT
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>>584889662
but are you having a blast???
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>>584889145
This is literally THE tile for learning disability retards that played for hundreds of hours and didn't achieve anything of note
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>>584890154
In my experience they are by far the best players
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>>584879737
whatever your opinion is, it's wrong.
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>>584886078
>I assume you've picked the french voice
yep
>by-the-book soldier, and Melk like those types
so he also likes the professional veteran?
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>>584883917
That doesn’t make sense. Most of the Cadians were deployed elsewhere but that doesn’t make them not Cadians anymore.
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>>584888513
The only proof you are not a shitter is h40 assignment rank and true survivor title. Nothing else means anything.
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>>584892385
even after several generatons being born not on cadia?
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>>584892385
only the ones who have kept their entire lineage pureblooded
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>>584888513
Any time you see an anon here seething that TS is a shitter title, you can reasonably assume that they do not have TS. Of course, the most unquestionable skill display isn't a title, it's the banner for completing secret hardmode twins. You'll see a fair number of people sporting the normal twins banner and they are frequently retards as it's more than possible to get carried for that, but if it's SHM then you can assume that they are, at bare minimum, a very good player; once you see that gold trim, you should consider that the player in question will be able to carry their weight regardless of their build. I'm sure anons will come in talking about that one time they played with someone who had it was a retard, but fringe cases like that apply to literally every accolade in the game, so it's not really worth taking into account.
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>>584896489
>I'm sure anons will come in talking about that one time they played with someone who had it was a retard,
Confirmation bias is a crazy thing, and part of the reason I assume anyone seething about True Survivor is just hypervigilant about it to the point of informing their confirmation bias.
Another bias worth considering is the self-selection of who actually uses True Survivor or Havoc-Forged. Such players generally display it with some sort of pride, because they think it's super meaningful. It is lost to such players that Havoc-Forged just means "shitter who WNBATS and knows it", and that True Survivor has lost a lot of meaning with time, between the extremely long period of time shitters have had to gamble for lucky director RNG, and the occasional periods of certain builds being retarded OP.
On the other hand, someone NOT having True Survivor yet is definitively the mark of a shitter. Anyone who plays the game with any regularity and cannot maintain a h40 assignment rank is definitely a shitter. You can feel as offended about this as you want, it doesn't make it any less true on average, regardless of whether you're one of them. In auric, every time I see a teammate with a havoc assignment under 30, it's a complete and utter subhuman. Especially the rank 0/40 True Survivors who haven't touched the mode, and probably not even the game, in eons.

I just put on a blue meme title and let my havoc assignment 40/40 do the talking for anyone running that mod.
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>>584871065
I have it, but I use Poxbreaker instead
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>>584897949
ah yes, the "participation" trophy
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>>584898389
Locking in for one game means nothing, every True Survivor I've seen has been dogshit, so I might as well put on the title I like.
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>>584897949
I have true survivor but I'm still not even halfway to poxbreaker, it's the one title that still eludes me
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>>584898389
simply participating long enough to get poxbreaker puts you in the top 1% of players
need at least a thousand hours of playtime to reach it
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>>584896489
Just saying but they nerfed hardmode twins like over a year ago. They let you respawn now and have far less spawns
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>>584896489
>Of course, the most unquestionable skill display isn't a title, it's the banner for completing secret hardmode twin
not only >>584899514 but I have it and I know that I'm not good
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>all these auric storm survivors ITT crying and coping because they're too shit to unlock poxbreaker
lol
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>all these true survivors ITT crying and coping because they're too shit to unlock salvage lord
lmao
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i don't understand how you guys can play the game long enough to care about this
sometimes i quickplay an auric or two before i go play something better and that's all i need from darktide, i have never even noticed anyone's title or portrait
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Silence, shitters. A Reject is speaking.
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>>584899492
I once approximated that it takes about 750 hours of pure game time to get it, assuming you're playing aurics as quickly as possible
>~25 minutes/mission
>~2500 enemies/mission
>2500/25*60 = ~6000 enemies/hour/team
>6000/4 = ~1500 enemies/hour/player
>1000000/1500 = ~670 hours
>toss in ~80 hours to account for the time spent in lower diffs leveling your guys
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>>584901107
I
FUARKINGHGN
KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Ring Leader on ogryn
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>>584901059
i don't even play auric, i stay in damnation and i'm the only one with the correct opinions
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IM A CYBER FALCON KA-KAW!!!!
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>>584901128
I only play one or two matches a day I doubt I will even get it before darktide 2.
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>>584899492
>>584901128
I got it at 1492 hours. Well, back then we didn't have Poxbreaker, we had the Skull frame which was 1 million kills, so I got that at 1492 hours. This was before Havoc as well, so there weren't as much enemies to kill. Now of course the skull frame is 500,000 enemies and Poxbreaker is 1 million. It's less impressive as time goes on, esp since Auric Maelstrom and Havoc have so many enemies. Back in my day you had to be a real kill whore to get it as early as I did. Took most people over 2000 hours to get it.
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I will never remove ministorum lackey
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for me, it's
>shift leader primus on vet and ogryn
>archivum sage on zealot and psyker
>ministorum warden on arbitrator
>opportunist on scum
>cyber-falcon on skitarius
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mr e signals to nerftrannies
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>>584908592
I don't give a shit about what some random youtuber says or thinks, keep it to yourself dickbreath
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>>584871065
I've had sex.
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>>584911741
Unironically lol'd. Good post chap.
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Did they do something to the secret entrance to Catherine's Tower in VT2? I keep getting bumped off the shelf when I reach the top.
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>>584909965
Post the evidence
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>>584899514
>>584900183
>they nerfed hardmode twins like over a year ag
w-what
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I'm turning into a swede help
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>>584908592
I tried to watch his video and his faggot dog started barking for 10 minutes how can people watch this shit?
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Buff arbites
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>>584872325
It does not. My true survivor run featured someone trying and failing a jump to the dropship and we still got the title.
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Should I get the skitarii dlc or play Space Marine 2 for the first time?
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>>584916254
real and true

>>584918195
what do you main now
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Is there any way I can make a curio have a specific Blessing I want on it? Or do I *HAVE* to get lucky at the armory guy.
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>>584919568
blessing is pure RNG but theres a mod that auto scans if youre on PC
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>>584919568
you can try the mystery curios at melk as well
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>>584919568
Burn melkbucks for curios I guess you can also roll weapons for masteries, like on one hand you don't have anything to spend melk points on, but it isn't very economical
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>>584918346
My most played is Arbitrator then Ogryn.
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>>584920128
skittles is pretty different than those, but I dont like SM2 very much at all
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>>584920128
Skit is a hybrid melee-ranged class like vet weapon specialist used to be, but has bad ammo economy (ammo regen is shit and they don't give him good ammo economy weapons like infantry las), is tanky like arbites, and has a servoskull pet that's stronger than a dog (arguably, after all the nerfs skull does a tiny little bit more damage than dog and can switch targets fast, but can't stunlock stimmed enemies like dog, so they have different jobs). Arc maul has a lot of stagger and feels like arbites weapons. Tanny blades feel like shivs.
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>forget to do my weekly snorevoc
>see hab dreyko in rotation
>today I will finally play skitt in havoc
>zero hab dreyko lobbies
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If I'm a Zealot who wants to use a melee weapon against carapace armor or bosses, should I use heavy eviscerator or assault chainaxe? Is the chain axe even good?
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>hear about how hardmode twins are super hard
>Skittles launch
>Got to Auric again
>get dropped into Orthus offensive
>3 other Skittles
>YO RING THE BELL NIGGA WE SKIPPING THIS SHIT
>Twins get claw'd in seconds
Never touched Havoc btw. Still have the super sikrit twins hard mode btw. Means I'm better than TSshitters according to /coopg/ btw
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>>584881913
>>584882648
>>584886078
>Melk like those types of personalities
Kinda yes because Melk is a greedy money grubber and a social climber. Like the Spillway campaign, after Consignment Yard one, Rannick calls Melk a social climber. Savant Psykers get sold out, Cadian loses everything, these two are looked down upon by Melk isn't unreasonable. Melk is also shit on Skitarii because none of them can give any social gain for Melk.
Video short banter, fanatic zealot suspects Melk's faith despite of Melk's loyalty,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhF72gJ0Wmo

Other not really related thing, I still don't get why sister Prine dislikes Cadian personalities.
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yall wanna play coop doom?
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>>584882648
>He also shits on Cadian Vet
everybody knows that guardsmen are ragamuffins and nothing but trouble
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>zealot, arbitrator and psyker unable to deal with 2 gunners
>arbitrator hugs the ground every room
>complains I don't throw smoke at every corner (I literally cannot generate enough smokes to cover his ass)
>always rushes too far
>always dies in such retarded places I lose tons of hp bailing him out (my mistake)
>refuses to move forward when we need to move
>when we need to stay in chokepoint and kill shit they rush forward
>when we need to move forward and finish the remaining enemies they go back 2 rooms
Fucking hell that mission was, when I joined a game with 2 arbitrators and a zealot at least I hoped they would not hug the ground permanently, how wrong I was. One switched to psyker and was obsessed with killing every single poxwalker in the back when the other 2 retards rushed 2 rooms forward. Except for when I decide to help him deal with this shit faster, then he decides to run away
At least psyker was predictable, and zealot somehow managed to kill 2 gunners after 10 minutes. Arbitrator though was a fucking dead weight, I will never join a lobby with arbitrator in it again
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>me unga
>team bunga
text
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>>584933109
arigato for saving my time, anon-kun
>touches your butt
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>>584933821
YAMERO!
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>>584889662
It's an entirely new team, almost no one from the previous games worked on it which is why they've been undoing every single one of their "Modern developer improvement" decisions over the past 2 years. Pretty crazy that $8 used to get you a 4 pack of complete banger characters now they want $15 for a single character that looks like they came out of fortnite.
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>>584925834
Revved up eviscerator or perfect strike light spam
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>>584936742
>perfect strike
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THAT!
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>>584933821
>>584934112
*gasp* the Atoma Assaulter!
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>>584936742
>perfect strike light spam
Imagine how bad this guy's scoreboard score looks. Holy yikes
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>>584938050
I can't you hear over the sound of my eviscerator mulching hordes whether they're full of armor or not
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>>584933821
Yaranaika?
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>>584938259
>mulching
Ah so you play sedition. Got you
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>retarded italian negroid having a tantrum because we don't let him hit the boss, refuses to go into the valkyrie because we call him a retard
God I fucking hate the EU server
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I called him a turbo nigger on voice chat and he said he recorded it, I expect at least a 2 weeks ban, God I hope I'll be free from this Third world containment game coded by Swedish monkeys, banned for doing what I love the most: shitting on brown skins (Yes I consider italians third worlders)
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relatively new to this game
at what difficulty do I stop getting these retards
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>>584941308
>zealot
Deserved.
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>>584941308
Anon...
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I did it!
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>>584941308
>at what difficulty do I stop getting these retards
...
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>>584942235
grats anon
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>>584942235
Awesomesauce.
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>>584942235
You got carried
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I hate Reapers so much
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>>584944919
Ok wow calm down Commander Shepard
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Whats the difference between elites and specialists
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>>584945786
elites are things like gunners, shotgunners, maulers, ragers. they are on the map and they also spawn

specialists are things that only spawn, like dogs, trappers, mutants, snipers, bombers
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>>584945978
Thanks anon
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>>584946112
You're welcome sweetie
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>>584944919
Smoke out.
Simpletons, I'll protect you.
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>>584945786
Elites are basically just stronger mobs that melee/shoot you. Specialists usually have evasive behavior and includes disablers.
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>>584944919
they would get raped in 40k
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I can't be on the same team as Ogron. Their retarded voices are so fucking funny I can't play without cracking up to a fit.
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BARRELS GONNA BOOM
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>>584948864
WATCH OUT, EXPL-
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AVAST, YE BLACKGUARDS!
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>>584941802
for what
>>584941806
>>584943730
bros...?
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>>584784341
Name my Darktide strike team, /coopg/
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>>584954551
The Queefs
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>>584954551
"You guys ever watch 4 ogryns? haha"
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>>584957935
okay can you stop mentioning that disgusting fucking thing like seriously i know it's a natural bodly function but i never even knew that girls did THAT and the thought alone is turning me fucking gay, like i can't fucking jerk off anymore because of it
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>>584957935
I thought that was "queers" given the culture of this place. Somehow that is funnier.
>>584958140
lmao.
To me ogryns will never not be funny.
>>584958304
Is there some context I'm missing?
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>>584958304
Now imagine ur eating out some bih and she queefs straight down the back of yo throat
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>>584959131
nahhh bro thought he was vibing with this one fr its giving
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>>584958691
what's there to know beyond the concept of "vaginal farts"? it's fucking unreal to me man, like, i can understand ass farts because of the digestive system but, "VAGINAL farts"? HOW does that even work? i don't want to find out because the thought of it as it is a horror beyond my comprehension, it's like if we farted from our dicks

>>584959131
ur not helping twin
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y'all niggas better shut yo bih ahh up and yap yt style before sum hollers crazy style
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Have You Noticed How The General Goes To Shit Around This Time.
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>>584962453
No? I only post around this time :)
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>>584962453
why are you ebonicstyping
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Mr (t)E(stosterone) is convince we're not getting SoB this year
Who else could we get?
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*Ms E(strogen)
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>>584963365
I don't care about ecelebs. To answer your question, it could be a spire noble since the new missions have a lot to do with them, I'm still banking on us getting a novitiate in December, but keeping what Fatshark said about Skitarii being delayed, it's not out of the realm of possibility that novitiate could be delayed the same way.
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>Three games where someone just drops the ammo crate randomly for no reason instead of holding it for finale
>Three games I berate them a bit in chat for wasting the box
>It causes one guy to just leave

Don't hold back, am I being overly anal about it? I hate wasted resources.
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>>584967813
I mean no, but at least they're dropping it. A lot of the time for me people just hold onto it forever and never use it
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>>584968048
That is always worse. I guess I shouldn't get as mad, and I do feel guilty of chasing the other Ogryn away. He wasn't a bad player.
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>>584967813
Depends on difficulty, team comp, and ammo scarcity. My personal threshold for dropping an ammo crate pre-finale is "at least two players entirely out of ammo, or one player entirely out and all others running low with an imminent horde/boss."
Really, ammo isn't scarce enough at any point in this game to warrant being genuinely annoyed over a wasted crate; I might think to myself "hey, this guy's a total idiot," but that's more or less the extent of it as I cannot think of a single instance in my ~1.5k hours where a premature ammo crate drop cascaded into a mission failure.
I will mention that health crates are an entirely different story, of course, and one being wasted can--and frequently will--have serious negative ramifications.
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>>584968540
Same, two in red or three in yellow. I've got the mod that lets me see precisely how much ammo everyone has in magazine and reserve so I can make better judgements depending on the weapon they've got and how much they use it. A vet running out of bolter or plasma ammo for example has priority on ammo to the point I'll give them the crate if they're not carrying anything else, but a hive scum in the red on any weapon I'm not really worried about.
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>>584968540
To be fair I play Mulch Ogryn Gunlugger. So I care because I'm the ammo hog. No finale ammo box means no extended uses means I can't rock and roll hard as I want to.

Also I did calm down and go in again, and then the Scum dropped his ammo box HERE of all places.
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>>584970407
This image fills me with a deep sadness
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>>584967813
You aren't, it's a coop game nd they're showing an absolute lack of teamplay
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>>584970407
>>584970858
Just like when someone drops a med kit in a checkpoint when there's a medicae literally waiting in the next room.
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>>584972965
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>>584972965
Deserved for not GETTING ON THE MOTHERFUCKING VALKYRIE!
Keep up the good work.
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I like dumping a medkit next to the medicae in the last stage of Refinery Delta, because the medicae location is the only quadrant that doesn't face onto a spawnpoint + platform for shooters. It's easy to navigate to and more protected. Use the medikit first, then if you come back and it's expired there's still medicae.

I hate others dropping a medkit to the right of the medicae (in a short little stairway alcove downwards) in the arena of Mercantile. It's a cul de sac and bomb sink. I prefer a medikit at the top of the stairs leading to extraction, which is just above the medicae I believe.
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>>584970858
>>584972105
>>584972363

And then the scum got hit by a dog and rage quit after going down most of the game. Loser.
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>>584972965
If I had a quarter for every "This count have been avoided if you just stuck with the group" moment.
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>>584972965
deserved for playing darktide
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Nothing wrong with playing Darktide
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>>584857194
Not much until like 20. My family couldn't afford food so I was involuntarily vegan.
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>>584977489
Bet your scumbag parents still always had money for cigarettes and alcohol though
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>>584977489
milk is cheap as dirt, and thats not how veganism works, because vegan product are much more expensive, and unless youre living in a third world shithole, you could afford enough food be to a fatass
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>>584978146
Maybe he only ate spaghetti and drank water
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>>584931320
that wiki is literally wrong. its why i asked here. i have savant psyker, the one with the french voice. and melk treats her well.
the wiki is wrong.
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How often do they add more rewards to the track you fill up with penance points? It obviously only get easier to earn each threshold as they add more missions, game modes and entire classes with their own pages full of new penances
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>>584967813
you're right and they're wrong, but people are very sensitive about being told they're doing things wrong
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>>584968048
all 3 of us trying to type/mic in in the middle of the end game horde DROP THE AMMO DUDE
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>>584811632
I agree but I also think new players SHOLUD use healthbars as it really helps them understand the games damage system
Once you're good enough to play in auric, any self respecting player should turn them off.
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I downloaded the vfx limiter because my frame rate fucking plummets on higher difficulties. Sorry bros I'm a cheater now :(
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>>584978146
turdies that aren't Africa still have lots of fatasses due to availability of cheap goyslop
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>>584981096
FUCK SAKE NOW THAT MEANS I DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME BY HAVING YOU ON MY DAMNATION
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>>584981161
goyslop wasnt as prevalent 20 years ago
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>>584972965
He didn't fly so good, who wants to try next?
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>>584981248
anon-sama prease forgive me...
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>>584981364
duKANE?
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>>584972363
Honestly the way the encounters designed make medkits kinda pointless:
>it's sensible to drop medkit is a room where you'd need to stay for a while
>vast majority of such rooms already have healing stations
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>>584982353
It's more of a diaper for lower skill players that needlessly get hit, such as myself.
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>>584981096
it's över
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>>584939147
>>584939980
>still not banned
I'm starting to believe.
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Finally, a game for /coopg/
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>>584925834
If I were to rank them in order for your requirement, it would be:
1) Chaxe XII is the best crusher and boss killer. Highest single target raw damage.
2) Evisc XV can also work well, but is more dependent on damage buffs and crits.
3) Chaxe IV and Evisc III are not as good vs crushers and bosses, but still OK. FOTF helps a lot.
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WHY THE FUCKIN RETARDS IN AURIC ARE SO FUCKIN SLOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MOVE UP MOVE UP MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!
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>>584967813
>am I being overly anal about it?
No, there are absolute retards in this game. Some Ogryn using mods was demanding that I use my Med Stimm on him when there was a Medicae in the next area. He tried to vote to kick me after getting healed by said Medicae.
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>>584983979
am exploreing the map :-)
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>>584983979
>t. zealot dead half way across the map
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>>584983979
t. Scum or Zealot who quits out after getting downed
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>want to do some early gaems before wageslaving
>quickplay is full of retards
Why they can't be like me and have a functional brain?
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>>584984753
if you ever wageslaved retail you'd already know the average person out there is barely capable of putting one foot in front of the other
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>>584984753
Sorry anon, there aren't enough souls to go around, most people have to make do without them
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>>584984941
20% of people get 80% of the souls
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>>584984753
Get a remote job
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>>584984941
So true. A lot of people don't realise the average person out there is a fucking drooling mouthbreather only alive because of social helps.
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>>584984941
i still don't get how they manage to land a job
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>>584985196
They don't. You pay for them :)
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>>584984528
not him but honestly it does start to get incredibly frustrating as you gain experience. there's nothing in front of the team until all the way toward the end of next room but they keep hanging back to fight a couple of stragglers, until a new horde spawns and everyone takes yet another round of chip damage and spends a bunch of consumables

if the way ahead is clear and you are not pushing, you are actively hurting the team because you will inevitably waste limited resources in fights you didn't need to fight. you will also waste everyone's time, which is also a finite resource.
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Helloooooooooo! I'd like to order MORE slavgroids hmmmYes! Deliver them to the EU server teeheeheee! Yes I'm Bruce Wayne, I'm paying for everything! HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>584987226
with extra green weapons please
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>>584967813
>am I being overly anal about it?
Honestly yes, a lot of the time it's not even worth thinking about. The only justifiable reason would be if you were playing havoc beyond the trench, where people are expected to know, and three consecutive times is dumb enough it's difficult to believe, but other than that, no. Ammo crates barely matter and most retards weren't going to use it correctly anyway. If it's just some shit that doesn't matter, I reflexively drop the ammo crate whenever someone calls out "I NEED AMMO" without checking their ammo counter, half the time wasting it because it was a consolegroid that meant to say "Thanks" instead. Sometimes this leads to another guy dropping an ammo crate in the same spot on accident, we look at each other, and have a laugh. In havoc, such misinputs don't really happen and such a callout almost always does mean to drop the fucking ammo crate already.
>>584985196
Neither do corporations, hence accelerating AI research. A robot already does a better job than most retards.
>>584985258
They do get NPC jobs like HR, some retarded arts related job, or menial physical labor that amounts to crushing rocks, see mining etc. A lot of NPCs are also ingrained in school systems.
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>>584978548
I'd assume whoever did the wiki had finger trouble/brainfarted and transposed Loner and Savant. I can't see him hanging around someone who talks about the "corpse Emperor"; quite apart from anything else, the man has keen survival instincts.
>>584931320
>Prine and Cadians
I'd assume it's because they're bitter and angry at the Imperium for its 'betrayal' - the cutthroat doesn't sound like the type who's coping by turning to their faith. Quite the opposite, from the lines I can remember. Not a traitor - but not exactly drinking the Kool-Aid either.
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>>584978548
>>584988931
Fine, you two make me test a bit.
Melk likes female Savant and both Loners, but he hates male Savant. Oh well, he's a racist it is then.
In wiki image, female Agitator is the one Melk likes, because she's the one I use.
From Cadia, male doesn't like Prine because he thinks she's soft instead of being intimidating. Female Cadia feels there's something more from Prine, comments Prine eyes' always looking for a target. Both somewhat distrust Prine.
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>h40
>play melee frontline
>subhuman bubblecuck runs away from me and eats shit on 3 separate occasions
Why are bubblecucks like this?
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>>584991138
That's what you get for accepting a bubble boy
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ITS UP!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muKZEri5AbU
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Why is this nigger advertising his third world e-celeb here?
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>>584992104
>Female Psyker loner voice lines mentioning Plague Marines
>"THE BLIGHTED ASTARTES IS DEAD!"
>"BLIGHTED SPACE MARINE!"
>"PRESERVE US! A PLAGUE MARINE COMES!"
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>>584992104
I didn't know africans played Darktide
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>>584992820
>>584992294
Thats a clearly european accent you filthy mutt
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>>584992104
>look at video title
>NEW ROADMAP
>suspect
>look at Fatshark forums
>no roadmap announced
Ah I see, it's clickbait for some eceleb desperate for channel growth.
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>>584993029
there's datamined audio in the video about plague marine enemy @9:59
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>>584993109
I do not care, I am not watching clickbait.
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>>584992104
buy an ad
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>>584992104
>Genestealers and Votann
>Check the source, they are artworks for Warhammer 40k Killteam and not Darktide.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/b00l5a
But Skulls event..... Yeah, no.
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>>584993164
Yes you will you fucking BITCH!! You'll do whatever the FUCK I'll tell you to!
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>>584993536
And I'll look down and whisper "Nyo."
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>>584993536
WTF is this real...
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>>584993714
Yeah and thats me
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>>584993751
I can't believe it, you got neutered
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>>584990560
>Melk likes female Savant and both Loners, but he hates male Savant
so i was right that he feels like my university professors. lol
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>>584993025
yeah that's what I said
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>>584993885
why else do you think I play Darktide?
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>>584993928
>American calling any european country third world
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>>584994508
NTA, anything touched by communism is turd world doebeit
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>>584994626
the average slavgroid city is unironically cleaner and safer than the average american one, by a huge margin
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>>584994754
t. ivan pestrovyoloanovich
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>>584993536
Yoooo chill bro... Just don't hurt me man...
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>You aint even real women!!
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>>584993536
Felinid class when
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>>584854585
>He knows she is leaking shit all the time.
I did not need that mental image, anon. Thanks.
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>>584995648
He didn't say that. Chaos is transfolk friendly unlike Imperium bigots.
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>>584871065
>Barrels you
Not much of a survivor anymore, are you?
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>>584999147
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>>584999113
Tzeentch and Slaanesh maybe. Nurgle hates trannies.
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>>584992104
>more jumping to conclusions
Those plague marine lines are interesting. Also, Fatshark should just add some of those older modifiers to Auric. They are already in Havoc.
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Vermintide...home...
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>>584999689
But the crab is already out of the bucket and gloating about it? Your analogy is completely wrong.
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Crab with survivor guilt
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>Darktide is getting space mariens after they INSISTED it would never get any and the story would focus on humans period
Here is your reminder that "but Fatshark said that..." is not an argument. Ratlings are possible
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>>585005575
Wasn't it just no PLAYABLE marines?
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>>585005575
it's gonna be a spacedwarf, there's already official art of them holding Darktide weapons
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>>584994508
How's France today, Jean-Mohamerde?
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>>584994508
The UK covered up the rape of over 250,000 of their children at the hands of mudslimes. It's pretty fucking bad over there.
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>>585005575
"We" aren't getting space marines, the heretics are.
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>>584982593
Based me too
>>584987226
Kek
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>>585005575
>>585005689
>>585005868
>>585006951
that statement is always taken out of context, and refers to space marines as a playable class. that would be so retarded why would you play anything else
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>>585007846
>"There are actually no Space Marines in this game," Head of Design Victor Magnuson told Shacknews. "That was a choice we did early on."
they later talk about them being playable but he specifically says none in the game, either
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>>584992294
>>584993164
>>584993257
be nice we’re some of his only audience
>>584990560
he sounds very cool now honestly
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>>584987226
You're going too far.
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>>584994754
that really depends on which slav country you’re talking about
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God I wish Valve would do a re-release of L4D2 with better infrastructure.
L4D2 has one of the worst fucking lobby systems I've ever seen
Just give me a normal fucking sever browser.
Not to mention how many fucking hackers there are.
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how is this game from 2022 and theyve only added 7 new maps, 3 new classes, and 9 new weapons
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>>585008524
Not far enough. I'm tired of europoors complaining about them here like I give a shit. Keep it going.
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>>585009173
The Joker would never do that!
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>>585009047
because it's only been 2 years in swedish time
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I hate the new pajeeta handler. Does somebody really enjoy her accent?
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>>585009698
The Joker is too weak to do what needs to be done!
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>>585009023
>-console
>openserverbrowser
There you go
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>>585010336
yeah that doesnt really do shit when it doesnt display a single server, despite not having any filters on whatsoever
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/5338850/Ignite_the_Depths_Demo/
This just out with a demo. Could this be the Darktide killer?
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>>585016321
>dark and darker clone for casuals
>darktide killer
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>>585016321
god i wish
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does this increase the whole teams damage or just mine?
80% more damage received after 2 attacks already sounds like a lot
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>>585020901
Everybody benefits from "increased damage taken" debuffs on the enemy. Yes, Skullcrusher is broken.
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>>585021846
damn
i was trying out the thunder hammer for the first time and that can have both skullcrusher and brittleness
i guess the issue would be actually staggering crushers
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>>585022081
The crusher is a better weapon for that. It does no fucking damage in the first place, but the special aoe is spammable and rather large in size, spreading all of the debuffs to just about everything.
The thammer is such a piece of shit that you need to invest everything you can into making it usable, and going support slut with the blessing ain't it.
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>>585022240
i'm mastering weapons one by one and crusher is next so i'll see soon
thanks
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>>585009047
The Swedes are not known for their work ethic. It took 2 years to get a reasonable crafting system and the first year or so the game was not stable. I think a lot of resources were mismanaged creating Mortis Trials and Expeditions. But I think the biggest thing is that the IP is what let them survive. If it were their own setting, the game would have died during the open beta and that lets them get away with more than they should
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>>585016321
>first person
they will always be less popular than third person games
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>>585020901
whole team
it's 80% beacause it's very hard to meet the condition
damage bonus only applies when target is in a staggered state or counts as staggered (which arbites can do by hitting a weakspot, though there is a bug related to arbites talent which is hard to explain which prevents extending the duration of skullcrusher, but you don't have to think about it now)
The duration of stagger and the duration of skullcrusher are separate, and the damage bonus only applies when both exist at the same time
And also the stagger is applied before damage, so if your hit sends enemy flying and it was under skullcrusher debuff, damage bonus will be applied properly
It is a very strong blessing which is neutered by being stuck on weaker weapons and havoc enemies being almost impossible to stagger. And you really don't need that damage (which applies to subsequent hits, not initial hits) in aurics when you can just take a stronger weapon and oneshot everything.
>>585022240
Thammer was never bad, but after the buffs it's actually decent now. This poster is delusional.
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Today I am a fun haver
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a305508a-53f5-4788-9bbd-6af4722cddbb/return-of-the-unhinged
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>>585024548
>this tier list brought to you by veteran players who think he's due yet another rework (gigabuff)
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>>585024385
>Thammer was never bad
>>>/b/ is over there if you want to troll
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>>585024805
There is no rework that can "fix" veteran in the sense the players who dont enjoy him requires. He is a ranged class stuck in a game that has more and more relied on swarming you from all sides with enemies.

That map redesign was the final nail in the coffin when Fatshark thought that for some reason having a single safespot to stand in and actually shoot your gun was too broken so they just added spawners everywhere
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what's a good ranged weapon for zealot?
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>>585008609
it unironically doesn't. even fucking ukraine in the middle of an invasion, so long as you're not within 50km of the front or so. americans don't seem to understand how abnormal your nigger hive cities are.
>>584995214
it is factually true.
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>>585025025
If you're going for a ranged kill Melk contract, it's recon las or boltgun. I believe unarmored + flak lets you hit gunner headshot breakpoints on the boltgun, up to auric. Ideally run IJ keystone since it boosts your ranged damage.
Else bolt pistol is basically the best. Combat shotgun (slug variant) is usable, huntsman's is usable, revolver is usable. Laspistol is a bit finicky but strong too. The purpose of these is to quickly kill shit between melee swings.
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>>585001802
>crab got out of the bucket
>immediately jumped back in just to gloat
>now other crabs pull him down even more
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Haven't played shopclick since the arbeetus class got released. What changed except for the nee class?
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>>585025025
I just run combat shotgun on all my zealot builds nowadays cause it's a good
>oh shit oh fuck disabler and I'm out of position
weapon for a character that I ideally only ever want to play in melee
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>>585025398
Piss toughness no longer gives you godmode but all the things that gold toughness mattered against got nerfed bigly. Only overheads matter, but good players dodge those.
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>>585024548
Is it "who's most likely to die in havoc" tier-list?
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Wait did they broke charging strike? It does work in psikhanium but I haven't seen it activate at all in quickplay, wtf
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>>585024548
>the community agrees
The community agrees that the thunder hammer is a good weapon.
>>585026245
I see vet being the third most likely to die, but it's almost there.

In reality it's something like ogryn = scum > psyker > zealot = veteran > skitarii >>> arbites. But most ogryns fail the build check. Most scum are useless dogshit. Bubblecuck psykers are bad players. Zealots run dogshit builds. Arbitrators all brick their builds. The only classes you can expect to be relatively predictable are vet and skit.
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/sm2g/ is dead, so does anyone here want to help me make autistic music videos in SM2 with the 12 player mod? Basically we'd just run custom strats as different chapters each time while I record.
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>>585024548
Ogryn simultaneusly in S tier and C tier.
PBB rumbler spam plays the game for you.
Melee ogryn ogryn is mid, and the build heavily relies on the fact your team isn't retarded (they always are, you know it too) and knows and realizes to capitalize on the space and debuffs melee ogryn applies.
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>>585027138
>/sm2g/ is dead
it happens every week, no need to post this again
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>>584811458
I don’t disagree overall, but I will say the world is cohesive enough, it being subject to the direction of the table top doesn’t really change that, even if it can make for some unpleasant developments.
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>>585024669
Ok this build is shit. I can't believe how bad it feels after I replaced brain kinetic flayer with charged strike and maniacs with crit chance. It's supposed to help triggering malefic momentum but instead I can't tell if it does nothing at all or steals my disrupt destiny charges.
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>>585024548
>4th and 5th place out of 7 is "above average"
>2nd worse place is "middle of the pack"
I hate dumb niggers making these labels so fucking much
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>>585024548
we all agree arbites is actual dogshit right?
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>>585027138
No anon. Just no. I am not going to coordinate with 11 other people just so you can make a video
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>>585029404
It just suffers from low skill ceiling and lack of specialization for Havoc, it's still overpowered everywhere else.
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Decent players too
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>>585027138
Please share the source of your image with me and I’ll think about it
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builds for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrgiVj-W3Ko
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>>585030086
everyone is overpowered everywhere else
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More datamined voice lines. Most interesting ones are hive scum + loner psyker yelling about psykers.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1x9y9jb/new_dauntless_and_enemy_callouts_voice_lines/
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>>585029404
Did the nerfs really hurt them that badly? I remember people saying they made Ogryns redundant.
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>>585030086
>it's still overpowered everywhere else.
Everything is overpowered outside of havoc.
Arbites is in a terrible spot and serves no actual purpose.
>b-but it helps shitters stay alive
That is neither a niche or a worth while thing anywhere. It's like saying cholera has a purpose because it keeps doctors employed due to people shitting their entire ass.
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>>585031941
The direct nerfs were minor, it is indirect nerfs that drove arbites and ogryn melee damage below average. Swedes simultaneously buffed the 3 remaining classes and raised hp of all enemies in the same patch. The real goal was to nerf ogryn and arbites, but since we don't do this here they decided to cover it up as a buff for other classes.
The silly part is that before that patch ogryn players pretended they play the weakest class just like they do now.
>made Ogryns redundant
In a sense. It's good for gamer girlfriends who can't do shit and need a fat hp and toughness bar to stop hugging the ground. In that department it did replace ogryn. What changed was that before enemy buffs it was both unkillable and highest dps class, now it's only unkillable.
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>>585032324
>food allegory
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>>585031941
>Did the nerfs really hurt them that badly?
Kind of and no at the same time. The nerfs to toughness and some damage has didn't really help, but arbites as a whole just has no niche. Everything arbites does, every other class does either equally well or better.

Even the dog isn't a good niche because it doesn't kill shit fast enough, doesn't crowd control, remote detonation is meh and the dog doesn't do anything besides killing enemies. Which both you and the team already do better and faster.
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>>585032984
why did he draw a pusy
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>>585033107
What The Fuck Did You Mean By This.
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>>585032463
>The silly part is that before that patch ogryn players pretended they play the weakest class just like they do now.
Melee ogryn is the weakest class.
People just don't realize how bad the situation is because rumbler spam exists.
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>>585033107
Tell us more about it anon, why do you see a pussy here? How was your relation with your mother?
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Well, now a dataminer confirmed that new class is not coming out until we are done with 2 events (possibly 3 because for some reason there is an insignia and a frame which he thinks are rewards for the same event, which could be 2 different events). Which means, we are not getting sisters this year.
Something that Jo leaked before we even had Spillway update.
On a side note - we might witness a plague marine getting DOOR'd in this decade, ehehehehehe
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They need to remove the Ripper's recoil impulse.
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>>585025093
I’m not a burger. Some of the worst slums and shadiest places in Russia at least are absolutely comparable. Getting shot/stabbed/raped/robbed is in the cards for both places. Albeit a lot of that has to do with the Muslims probably.
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easiest class to play in auric
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>>585035570
arbeetus
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>>585022081
Skullcrusher is pointless on the thammer since it can just one-shot pretty much anything.
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>>585024548
I took a shot at it
zealot would be one or two spaces higher if played competently but its playerbase is notably much worse in terms of game sense and team awareness to the point that even assignment level 40 players will randomly throw for no reason
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>>585035570
Grenade gauntlet ogryn is the easiest, but it can't go fast.
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>>585034672
>the sister class isn't coming out during the two precursory events that detail nurgle corruption and daemons
there's no way people are this stupid
did everyone already forget scum being preceded by a stims event, and skitarii being preceded by a archeotech event
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>>585035858
I think a well played zealot is completely indispensable, but I also fear that you might be right, because I dread having to find a decent one so much that it's my most played class instead.
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>>585036279
We also had like 4 months of expeditions wank before skitarii, if not more (I don't really remember).
You are overestimating fatshark's pace of releasing content
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>>585036586
two classes a year is already glacial compared to their originally proposed four a year, and if you think they're missing that paycheck this year to deliver only a large quantity of free content instead (new enemy subfaction, brotherhood of blight) you're retarded
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You DID see what he posted, yeah?
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>>585036767
You were under impression that 2 classes a year is their plan, when in reality scum was a sloppy job they did for 10 years anniversary and the real release plan is one class a year
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>>585037064
right, that's why the entire fucking class is already in the files two months ahead of the holiday season, because they have no intent of selling it during the most commercial time of the year, no it's definitely being saved for seven months from now
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>ogryn gets bleeding on melees
>skiitarii gets plasma gun and power sword
what does vet have left
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it's insane how little skill gun ogryn requires to play when it's impact on the team's performance is immense
I would argue that if it gets fed ammo, it surpasses flame staff psyker
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>>585038248
Yeah that sucks how ogryn took melee bleed from vet
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>>585038248
>what does vet have left
ammo rege- oh wait ogryn got that too
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>>585038248
Helbore and shovel. Better use their power sword before sissies of battle get it.
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im sick and fucking tired of infinite cleave weapons dominating this games weapon meta. fuck off with this shit its constantly a problem
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>>585038967
No different than any other of the broken metas.
>fatshark tries nerfing one of them
>get reviewbombed by the chinese
>revert the decision
>have to add more broken shit to compensate and let the other classes also play the game
>but now the game is too easy so we have to spam even more specials at the group
repeat until we end up where we are today when party dialogue is drowned out by the sound of 6 gorillion specials spawning without more than a nanoseconds pause between each other
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veterans shouldnt be able to use bullet guns, and nobody else should be able to use lasguns
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>>585039325
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Hx5D_znMM3Q?feature=share
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>>585038967
so just the flame staff?
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>>585038967
They upped the difficulty by making sure that was the only important thing
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>>585039620
>veterans shouldnt be able to use bullet guns
Wrong. They are the gun class.
>nobody else should be able to use lasguns
Correct.
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>>585040136
theres no reason to arbitrarily try to balance lasguns and bullet guns together. they're balanced by virtue of only vet having access to them and they should be objectively better in every way than bullet gun equivalents
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>>585035570
zealot lets me facetank everything as a total shitter
i can smile at a crusher mob, take 5 overheads at once, shooters may as well be using squirt guns
i never get more than a third of the damage but i never ever die no matter how stupid i want to be it is fun
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>>585041023
How do you achieve this?
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>>585041080
He only plays the game when his cheat death is off cooldown and then hides behind his chad teammates for the rest of it
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Can you even beat "the torrent" in havoc?
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>>585041080
full health curios and all the DR talents not relating to toughness which is a trap while you have the book
>>585041517
the heal it gives you after cheating death is more than enough health to last long enough to reset the timer when you have effectively 80% DR as long as you dodge sometimes and hit them in the head
with some practice you become pretty much immortal
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>>585043454
swag
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>>585043454
What does this contraption do?
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>>585044489
just don't ask for news
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How do I play flamer staff? It does no damage
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>>585044864
idk but every time i see a flame psyker he is just pressing w+lmb effortlessly and the mission is over very fast so i think it is a you problem
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>>585044864
in Auric flame psyker is too short range and the enemy density isn't high enough for him to out damage anyone unless he's being a turbo autist with a knife and flying ahead of the entire team like a circle chasing faggot

the point isn't high damage, it's infinite cleave
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>>585045771
This.

Shitters will copy/paste Havoc builds they see online not realizing they're only good in Havoc.
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news when
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niggre
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>>585046061
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sex with Kerillian
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How do Ogryns keep blastin Rumbler nades 24/7 and when I try it I run out of ammo insantly. Yes, I'm usin PBB and the other stuff same as them
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Why does Cruncher not cleave through all enemies even when it is supposed to ignore enemy hit mass?
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>>585046061
Darktide will be late November for the usual early December patch and maybe an event around Halloween. Ratclick has it's usual Christmas advent calander thing, but probably nothing else
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>>585049021
r u using the "back off" subnode and using it at 5+ stacjs
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There are three of us on line. Right now. We could cooperate. Together... Coping.
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>>585049228
If you have the Unstoppable Force blessing, a standard heavy will now cleave through carapace, but the Cruncher only has enough cleave to get through 3 maulers/scab ragers worth of mass. If you fully charge the heavy attack (ie, hold the button down until the attack automatically releases) it will have infinite cleave and pass through everything (but damage cleave distribution will still apply)
Shock & Awe will extend that normal heavy to about 6 maulers worth of mass.
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why do the other generals get goonerbait anime cuties with giant tits but we get an ugly nun as a header? Do better, make them bigger.
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can you shut the fuck up
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>>585049959
they should be smaller actually
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>>585049784
>it will have infinite cleave and pass through everything
That's what they claim but I feel like it's not even infinite but some arbitrary high number which is not even that high
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why don't you want to cooperate with me.
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>>585049784
I can barely cleave through 6 mobebian mobs with full charge
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>buy both, SM2 and Darktide on sale
>SM2 has awesome customization but the levels are boring because there are too few enemies and objective variation.
>DT has dogshit customization but the levels are fun because of varied objectives and many enemies. (Also, way too much melee, why even add guns if the game is 95% melee)
fuck.
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>>585049959
There's no way you are not brown lmao
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>>584858752
I've seen one with unique connections instead of reported users and there are like 35B Internet "users" these days. Literally 3x as many bots as there are humans on the planet.
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>>585053996
This is not my experience at all
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>>585053996
why do you care about cosmetics in a first person game?
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>>585053773
it's only for regular heavy attacks, not special attacks
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>>585055189
your experience is of someone who looks like that
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Cleaver infinite cleave meme is completely worthless
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>>585056737
Yep
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>>585056905
There are certain gigashitters who don't care if they're doing 500 dps against crushers as long as their attacks are cleaving through them
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>>585053996
>buy boltgun
>have FUN
simple as
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>>585051265
>>585053773
You are somehow doing it wrong.
Cyclopean stack of 40 crushers and a poxwalker, It can still bop the poxwalker on the other side.
It's a huge gimmick you'll barely use but it works.
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>>585058647
I remember from my psikhanium experiments that 6 poxwalkers is the limit for overhead. It doesn't work for special.
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>>585058857
It does work for the special, it's just a narrower attack so it can miss more easily
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>>585059797
I concede
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I'm going all in on the Unstoppable Full Charge Cruncher meme.
Which blessing second?
Limbsplitter for +25% strength, as it does reset between full swings as you hold the button down.
Slow and Steady to mitigate the toughness gain gap from attacking so much slower
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>>585024548
>psyker god tier
What's a good psyker build? He is my least played one.
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>>585062092
*she
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>>585062092
I didn't enter my build online so take a look at these https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds?sort=relevant&class=2e785dba-f1bf-4b88-adf4-7e6b40592fca&type_ranged=39c43a1f-f951-4973-972b-fbffd5d29551&ability=a2c698d6-3d5e-4d65-93f8-d8c01c981f72&blitz=a2c698d6-17c9-440b-8a8d-5df15ac2a575&aura=a2c698d6-5f74-4891-b907-cb73bc8101f2
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>>584893151
It depends on how much of their genes and traditions they keep intact I guess.
>>584893184
True…
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>>585067007
Been there for years. Have you seen the one for Arcane Ruin?
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Type shit
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>>585067101
Nope, post it how long has it been there?
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nigger
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>>585067305
Came with one of the last few updates (or maybe a hotfix?) and it directly mentions an event that hasn't been done before. Somebody pointed out the similarity between the pattern and the Daemonhosts' design, hinting that the two will be connected.
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>>585053996
>darktide
>levels are fun because of varied objectives
Did we play the same game???
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>>585067007
Omg leman russ tank class confirmed!!!
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>>585067956
it does have more, most launch missions in sm2 are find the dealy or some version of point defense, and a couple of them are literally just walk from point a to b for the entire mission before getting an objective, like pretty sure nuking the hive is one of those missions and just ends on point defense
dt has find the dealy, point defense, retrieval, and hit the thing
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>>585067729
If we get a special Daemonhost event, I hope it's that weird modifier someone found where killing a host can spawn a super host.
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>>585067729
Oh now that you mention it that frame definitely looks like a daemonhost, though the new one is more orange than yellow.
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We getting orange flavored daemonhosts fr
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you're the reason why i use the options field.
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>>584817761
I don't want any of you faggots in my friends list, I'd rather play with randoms and bitch about it
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>>584819375
Drop zealot and pick up hive scum. You safely ignore all your ranged talents and can use the tiny needlegun which is strong as fuck even with no investment into ranged and give anything mega aids over time so you can spend more time doing melee with damage on par of a martyrdom zealot. You will be more fragile but that will just mean you'll learn how to stay alive better without crutches keeping you up.
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>watch skiitari cutscene
>skiitari arrive out of nowhere
>go to a shrine with hadron
>one skiitari gets pimped out because???
>goes back to ship
What the fuck was that about
Couldn't they have just joined
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>>585077493
I think they explained it in text in the announcement for the Skitarii DLC. Hadron found an Ad Mech shrine for upgrading plain skittles into more interesting and powerful skittle primes and she leads some troops there to upgrade and has them serve alongside the Inquisitorial warband. As to why it's there, the special Moebian Steel is why the Ad Mech cares and it being a massive hive, there's entire areas they've lost the records of and have just lost track of what's where. It's not well explained.
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>>585077493
Skitarii were already on the planet.
The shrine was in deadside.
He was the first in line.
Where the fuck else would Hadron go?
Old tech good. Very killy. Kill spikies good.
Nyo.
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So I downloaded the mod loader/framework to get a mod to improve performance and it ends up making my game run worse? Anyone else getting this?
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>>585079645
You have a crypto miner on your pc, flush it
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>>585079718
It won't fit in the toilet
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>>585079734
Get a bigger toilet
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>>585079790
But all the toilet stores are closed :(
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>>585079890
Eat it then
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The nerfed brittleness blessing is now bad on flame staff?
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>>585080670
Always was
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>>585079645
I'm not a silly goose who would install anything to "improve performance"
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>>585080670
Nerfed how?
It's not like you can get anything better. Well there's fan the flames and blaze away. But it's universally accepted that flamer zealot brings brittleness and everlasting flames to make it usable.
Flamer is kind of shit use of ammo though. Ammo rightfully belongs to ogryns. But if your veteran has good build he barely takes any ammo, and good pbb ogryn only takes like half the ammo, so I guess you can still take like 20-30%.
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>>584817761
In my case? Lack of interest from other players, mainly.
I'm in JP times but I have excellent routing to the USA so I used to post my friendcode when I would get home from work or my days off so I could play with anons on my h40 assignment.
It didn't matter to me if they were any good or not. I had a lot of fun runs, and a lot of smooth runs with anons, but also a lot of shit runs and it never bothered me none.
Over time the handful of random anons turned into just 3 regular anons, and then everyone just sort of stopped joining. All of my previous codes were met with silence now.
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Immolation grenade is good now?
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>>585082917
Always was
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>>585082917
No way in hell
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>>585082917
Maybe
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>>585082917
It's always been decent. Grenade economy and knives being crazy strong made knives more preferable. I still prefer knives for the quick specialist kill while in melee, but flame grenades are fun
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There are seriously players that need mods to do minigames for them?
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>>585084350
Need? No
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>>585084350
There will always be a subset of players that play with the most profoundly retarded shit imaginable, don't think about it too hard.
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>>585067956
Well he did say he just bought them at the sale, it does take a little longer for Darktide to get stale.
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>>585080381
Holy shit my tummy hurts I am not eating anything else
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>>585081716
You live in Japan?
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>>585087901
Currently, for work.
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I wish there were more ammo traits, I don't want to melee my way through a hive city. On lower difficulties the game tricks you into thinking there is always enough ammo and then It takes it away and you are left with your shovel.

This is just Vermintide in a 40k trenchcoat.
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In SM2 we get to fight a hive tyrant, when do we get to fight a Great Unclean One in Darktide?
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>>585088873
your shock trooper? your pickpocket?
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>>585090843
I wanna use the fun weapons
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>>585088873
Just guarantee more pickups and ditch the ammo regen at this point
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Why can't we loot enemy gunners?
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>>585091126
There was an event for that
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>>585082917
>does like 60% damage to an entire h40 daemonhost ritual, two of them guarantee a kill with no other input
>obliterates trash filtering in, buying a ton of space during a boss fight
>actually deals decent horde damage with crusher special spam putting brittleness and Skullcrusher on everything
Everyone just lost their shit over scum's chem grenades being better as if they're 1:1 equivalent. The chem nade is obviously better in every way, but being on different classes, they can't be equivalent, and also RPG > AIDS nades anyway.
I'm convinced throwing knife users are either married to their bolter for completely arbitrary reasons, or are mentally still live in 2024 and haven't received permission from their favorite jewtuber to use something else yet.
Well that, and most players of most classes are quite bad, you just rarely notice on zealot unless you know what to look out for, because it has so many crutches.
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>>585092732
>or are mentally still live in 2024
>grammar
I'm gonna go finish my coffee
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>>585092732
>>actually deals decent horde damage with crusher special spam putting brittleness and Skullcrusher on everything
One of the reasons why chem grenade is better, because it doesn't require any set up for it to just destroy everything.
Flame grenades are also dumb in that the enemies have been coded to walk *around* the fire, while for chem grenades enemies just run through it.
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>>585080670
people used to make the case for brittleness to deal with rotten armor. But I think now it's better to focus on pure damage, meaning crit and strength/power is the way to go.

>>585081505
staff
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>>585093010
Well yeah there's no argument in favor of flame grenades when you put them 1:1 equivalent with chem grenades, but they just aren't equivalent. Scum has so much power in its blitz, it's actually insane. Not having a blitz on zealot is whatever, so you can afford to use a situational blitz that dominates those niche situations completely. Knowing that a DH ritual will die for sure (even at range), and that any trash running into the boss fight can't do anything, is very valuable. Even if enemies walk around the puddle.
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Why do people keep asking to join my havoc game but don't join after I accept them? This happens like 5 times in a row
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>>585093010
i've never noticed the pathing thing to be an issue, considering the game is 95% corridors
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>>585093315
they apply for many different lobbies/hosts
then probably got accepted by another host before you accepted them
it will continue to happen, it's normal
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>>585093395
But I instantly accept them. Nobody is faster than me
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