It's Not A Warcrime If They're Belkan Or Sotoan EditionThread Theme: https://youtu.be/6FuV_-PFh7g?si=BOpg1lesBcShIM4LPrevious Mission: >>584763927 >AC8 OUT NOWhttps://s.team/a/2288340https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID70688023Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around>Online Progression Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)https://ac8-database.pages.dev>Aces at War 2029https://pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM >AC7https://s.team/a/502500>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposesNo EML/QAAM/SASMIn Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>AC7 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm >AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY >ACI is playable again!http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU >/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>AC3 Translation Patcheshttps://pastebin.com/ET0rSVc3>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA twitterhttps://x.com/PROJECT_ACES (JP)https://x.com/AceCombatGames (EN)>Kono's twitterhttps://x.com/kazutoki >Misc Stuffhttps://rentry.co/acegmisc >Project Wingmanhttps://s.team/a/895870 >SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg >/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/aceg >OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/P0E8NwWC BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK FAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha...>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
>>584831153>>584831350I'm not that Anon, but I booted up the game just to rub this in your face you fucking faggot.
What's up gang?
I am a Sotoan and I think most Yuktobanians are idiots.
>>584836280
>>584836413>Angry Dutch noises
F-5 squadron assemble!
>>584836178>the pause menu that nobody looks at >the pause menu that the mongoloid only pulled out after talking about briefings and admitting he's too fucking stupid to remember a pictureNobody cares, fag.
>>584836461dont look up what offmodelstudio usually makes||average kate fan||
>>584836423Including pretentious Tasha larps someone who as caring about human life too much to take one herself but cheers about others doing it.
Sun is not a CrabRed is not Yellow
>>584836507>coping that fucking hard
>>584836496based tiger2 enjoyer
>>584836679Not my fault you're nearly as illiterate as he is.
You guys did put Girls Frontline as one of your collab requests right?
Tasha needs to be forcefully put to tucked into bed with cuddles and kisses so that Kate can spend quality time with Rex.
>>584836759Is there anything to GFL nowadays other than jerking off to koikatsu model feet?
>>584836759no, i put nikke
>>584836413I wanted to go full Cipher and invade Sotoa to missile random yurts
>>58483685090% of the gameplay is fucking braindead so not really.
>>584836724>>584836496NEVER playing without my Osean skin on
My fucking mirrors are retracted???
Sotoa will be protected by 3000 black fighter jets (Terminus Fingers revealed this to me in a dream)
>>584836724I so want the F-5 to return and them to introduce the A4 and perhaps A7 as early starter planes. Haven't seen the last two since AC2.
>>584836541>offmodelstudiouh oh.... cripple porn incoming
>>584837287With what airforce?
>>584836178They should make it an easter egg that the brats paint a crab on your tail after this mission if you shoot one of the wrong ships.
>>584836918Someone do this meme but with Gemma.
>>584837574Big meaty claws of hope
>>584837369spinning tewy on it like a beyblade while her weird skinny cripple legs just flop around
I like how Ray is the JPEG Dog of AC8 in terms of retardation.
>>584837740> no
>>584837369Inb4 bird sex, Ghost Baxter cucking Ghost Cope
So PA despite their better judgement have decided to let you write the characters and plot of the next AC game. What do you create anons?Aside from Romeo and Juliet Ace Combat edition
>>584837978Odyssey but Ace Combat
>Do my S rank ace difficulty run using only fighters>Get the S rank medal but not the fighter medalThis is really fucking annoying, I wish this game had some kind of campaign overview that lets me see where or if I fucked up because I don't remember using anything other than fighters whenever I could choose.
>>584837978>spoilerMacross did that already in its literal first entry. And in a way more satisfying for the average gaymer.
https://poal.me/kq1y2qhttps://poal.me/kq1y2qhttps://poal.me/kq1y2q
anyone got any solid pics of mobius 1 f-22?im gonna get a tattoo with that plane as the focal point with WAR BAD above it and PLANE GOOD below it
>>584837978Problem with romance in a AC game is that the protag is a literal blank slate voice less self insert. Can't really do Romeo and Juliet when Romeo can't even fuckin talk.Even the "romance" is 8 are fags doing fujoshi tier "SHE LOOKED AT HIM SHES SO INTO HIM" Reddit shit of the handful of scenes we get of them interacting.
>>584838198Max Sterling knew what was up.>Singing Earth girls?GROSS>Alien giantess?FOX TWO
>>584837663
>Emmeria chick didn't tell Enso to Go Dance with the AngelsLame
>>584838534>SterlingHe's a mothafuckin JENIUS man
>>584836178While it's really shitty that they fucked up the pause screen, the game tries really hard to beat you over the head that you're looking for a sun. Crabs also aren't yellow so I still don't understand how so many players are getting caught out, besides not properly visually identifying things when the entire gimmick is to not kill things until you do.I hope Project Aces does more visual ID stuff like this honestly, it's great seeing how apparently a third of the player base got fucked up on the easiest trick in the book. Also way better than 7's Unknown yellows.
>>584838531Rex ending up WSO for Kate is the best we could get and it works just fine, in fact it's perfect.
What is he thinking about?
>>584838857>Filthy fucking nomads!
>>584838718I thought they meant the birdLike 3 painted cranes
>>584838531>romance in ace combat wouldn't work>here's proof of it is working when they weren't even trying to make it work
>>584838857Baxter being memed into being the most racist man alive has only endeared him to me more
>>584838797Kate really wanted Rex in her backseat.
>>584838998He's gonna designate targets all over that ass
>i missed out on this music kino because i just hit that auto select button for the squadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7dz1CKLJY8
>>584838973He is just saying what we are all thinking.
>>584838920There is no romance in 8. Just the very thin implication that there may be something more to Rex and Kate's relationship. He could just as well be railing Tasha or Jackpot 9. That's the whole point of a self insert. If you wanna create an actual AC Romeo and Juliet you're gonna need more to the protag for it to be not absurd for a Tewy type Juliet to fall for him.
>>584838857><<Can't trust these yurt apes as far as you can throw them. What a bunch of arrow chuckers.>>
>>584837978The long-awaited Belkan revanchism & reunification story.
>>584839325Tasha and Coster legit have chemistry and are always teasing each other and being seen together, those brats be fucking man
>>584838857>You really are a nomad, aren't ya?I don't get how that was meant as an insult. They are nomads.
>>584837978>>584838137Anabasis but with planes and a huge airship or land carrier home base.
>>584838857Hold on let me give you the version that's accurate to in game.
>>584839334Call the invaders of your country SAVAGE FUCKING INBRED PIGDOG ANIMALS, one time and suddenly the internet thinks you want all Sotoans in death camps. There is no justice for the Black man, even in Strangereal.
>>584839740Baxter doesn't want Sotoans in death camps, he wants them shot where they stand. No prisoners.
If Cope wasn't bullshitting at the end there and he really is everywhere and and can be anything, doesn't that mean he can repossess Rex whenever he wants? Doesn't that mean Rex should be some sort of ghost pied piper with Baxter in his brain too?
The racist Baxter memes are reminding of the racist Kaz memes from before MGSV's release. Baxter might be the only black man he'd allow on Mother Base.>>584839854Ah an efficient racist.
>>584839953Cope is everywhere for Rex, since he's in his brain. Cope is the subcconcious coping mechanism Rex developed to keep flying after being show down twice.
>>584839854My mistake, I was not fully familiar with the Professor's bigotry game
>>584840021The cool thing about racists is that they don't really care about what race you are as long as you are also a racist.
>>584839953I think once you go to the promised land™ you're disconnected from mortality, he was only sticking around because of unfinished business and that's done you can't flip floplike the difference between "my auntie is in heaven watching over me" and "my auntie roams the halls wailing that her killer wasn't brought to justice"
I've learned two things from watching nuggets play 8.>They ignore almost all of the quick time events that happen during missions unless it's gameplay required.>Score attack missions are their kryptonite.Seriously why is this mission type of all things such a noob trap? It's not like any of the ones 8 are like Tango Line with the fuckass Harrier bases.
>>584839987As much as I find Rex being in the flight helmet the whole time really fucking funny, it doesn't work because of the photograph
>>584839480>Quiet White Autist x Excitable Pixie HapaWhat did Kono mean by this?
>>584839953don't you know ghost rules? ghosts have to go to the afterlife once their unfinished business is finished, cmon man everyone knows that
>>584840224>implying he doesn't have a helmet under his helmet
>>5848402167's Long Day fucked up nuggets too.From what I've seen, they tend to do long looping high speed passes, and only kill one or two things at a time.
>>584840397They also seem to have a bad habit of getting caught in death spirals and pancaking into a mountain or hill.
>>584840216>Score attack missions are their kryptoniteReally? I've been watching jap streamers and they had more trouble with escort missions.Also none of them except the skilled veterans knew that you can hold the target button to track your target.
>>584840224
>>584840304Rex is gonna be nervous around birds the whole rest of his life.He's gonna see a seagull giving him the stink eye and the beach and think 'shit is that someone I killed?' Some random crow shits on his car and he's gonna curse Sotoan ghosts and then Kate is gonna be devilish and get a Parrot for their apartment, name it Baxter and start reading it botany books.
>>584840679>seagullImagine going to Pilot Valhalla and getting reincarnated as a fucking flying rat.
>>584840627>No pumpkin head
>>584840789Implying that's not exactly what happens to everyone at Fort Grays
>>584839130In game it's also dynamic. It goes on for however long you want, but it actually ramps up only when you decide to takeoff.Such a good "hidden" hype moment
>>584840627Airhead here doesn't even bother hiding
Do all pilots go to the Sotoan pilot heaven or only the ones that worship Sotoan allah?
>>584840981They said promised land. Never said it was heaven.
>>584840627>>584840816>>584840967
>>584840981Cipher is the Demon Lord down in pilot Hell.King fucking Yama, and he's gonna recruit Mobius One whenever that old fuck gets down there.
>>584840981This is Japanese spiritualism we're talking about, so it may be that each region has their own gods and afterlife.Shinto but Strangereal.
>>584840679>train a parrot to say "rex gets home alive" and "postcards for tasha *sqwaak*" >let it loose in rex's house
why are all of the vtubers playing this dogshit at the game
>>584841335They flock to LATEST THING to farm engagement.
>>584841335They're women.
Chudster...
>>584841335Why aren't you?
>>584841335Most streamers suck at games. As a generalization, vtubers are just egirl streamers witha kawaii moving png avatars.>t. lurked the jaypee threads before the christmas miracle
>>584841461Well, at least Ace Combat is now big enough to count as LATEST THING, right?
>>584841335VTubers and the average people in Online have severely raised my opinion of my own skill in these games.
>>584841335EMOTIONS
>>584841876>SAAR, DO NOT RELEASE THE CANOPY
>>584841537Based, Professor of Racial Studies
>>584841537It's funny how he's racist not once, but twice.
>>584841335>>584841931I'm regularly shocked at how bad people are at ace in generallike, not "I'm getting filtered by mission 15" bad, but "I literally cannot mentally comprehend expert controls, veteran is too hard" badalso it just occurs to me, why the fuck did we switch to these new retarded difficulties instead of v.easy - hard+ace
>>584841334Yeah but on the flipside, she lets Rex snort the ketamine she gets from Santos right off her tits.
>>584842259Sometimes devs give difficulties funny names because it disguises what they actually are.Like "pilot" difficulty sounds okay. I mean, everyone in this game is a pilot. So it doesn't "feel bad" to play on that difficulty.
>Been missing emergency sorties for 3 days>actually got 2 done for once>10 more games before I rank up might as well play a bit>3 fucking emergenciesFuck you game, is it hardcoded to give you more emergencies once you're out of daily mats or what?
>>584842259I feel kind of bad for playing my original campaign on veteran, but I hadn't played an aces game since zero on the PS2. Eventually I felt silly about dodging the AA since I had vague memories of 4, 5, and zero's AA fucking me up but in 8 the AA just sort of tickled.
>>584841335You must understand that the average gamer that never played a game like Ace Combat quite literally doesn't have meta-game internalized. Even for people who play videogames as a job, if you never played a game like AC, it's very hard to get accustomed
>>584842856I got accustomed to Ace Combat as a 10 year old.
>>584842913yeah, when neuroplasticity is at your best
playing zero for the first time and this game is fukken awesome
>the most competent military leader in the series is a black woman
>>584843087She's actually just the XO.
>>584843201so a leader
If ghosts are legit in strangereal, do you know how giga-haunted every single municipal tunnel and canyon trench is? Good fucking lord that shit must be terrifying as a civilian.
>>584843286But not the "most". She takes orders from the captain of the carrier, and her job is to act as tard wrangler for the pilots.
>>584842984I think it's more likely that most people are simply retarded.
>>584843201>>584843087>tells the captain she's gonna move the ship into the Rainband>fat balding middle aged white man captain says "o-okatly w-w-whatever you think is best my queen..."what did PA mean by this
>>584837978Death of the planet and scrambling to be the faction that gets to escape into space, with some insane people who don't want anyone to escape.Basically Deserts of Kharak.
>>584843087>>584843201Kinda odd that John Gordon, the commander of the Endurance, a fucking vice admiral of the FCU, only has a sentence worth of lines, the whole game.
Who is the president of the FCU?
>>584843087off to solitary with you, McKinsey isn't a black woman
>>584843634trigger
>>584843634It's Strangereal EU, so possibly a prime minister or a parliament.
>>584837978Space game with sexy cheetah people that become allies with humans against gross insect race. Two of them become your wingman, one male and one female, and you can kiss either of them.
>>584843506hm, let me see here... the actual commander of the ship who doesn't seem to make any decisions in the game and barely even makes an appearance has a subordinate that's a black woman who makes all the decisions and is always right interesting
>>584843634some fucking je- belkan that got raped by mameluks on top of camels because she wanted to be inclusive
>>584843506I had completely forgotten that the Qween was an XO so when his single line popped up I thought "who the fuck is that and why is he in command".
So how hard is it going to be to hack VR into the AC Zero port?
>>584843634Robert Sinclair Jr.
>>584843739>>584843087She's a degenerate gambler that has made made a career out of taking dumb unnecessary risks under the possibility that they might pay off in the future.Her continued success is more a testament to how insane Strangereal is than any actual competence on her part.
>>584838472>not "WAR BAD PLANE RAD
>>584844027>She's a degenerate gambler that has made made a career out of taking dumb unnecessary risks under the possibility that they might pay off in the future.other than the gambling, how is this different to any other leader/commander in the series
So, is there any consensus on what parts to use for missiles in online? Just stack homing parts?
>>584843634Harling jr
>>584843739She's the XO, the tard wrangler for all the pilots, the captain of the ship doesn't brief pilots. Once more, he's also an admiral, so that would mean he'd do even less on a service boat involving just the pilots.>Vice Admiral, or VADM, is a three-star rank that generally operates at the upper echelons of global naval planning. VADM officers commonly hold positions such as Commander of a Unified Combatant Command component, Deputy Chief of Naval Operations, or other senior leadership roles within multinational coalitions. They oversee multiple task forces, coordinate complex maritime operations, and integrate naval power with air, land, and space domains.Gordon would be the one communicating with other boats, tard wrangling the entire Endurance fleet and coordinating with central Naval command (which was speared so there was none anymore). This is why one of the few times he talks is when the Oden of White Valley Base hails the Endurance to offer welcome, because that exchange is between two big wigs.
>>584844558strange how someone so important barely ever appears
>Two on the Run>Several gaps in the radar that look like they'd be alternative paths>These are lies and you're basically forced to go down the one routeWhy even give you a radar in this mission at all
What is the tax policy of FCU?
>>584843087>gambling addict finally hits the jackpot and uses it to solve all her problemsThis isn't even the first time in the series where the friendlies realize they stumbled on an I Win button and use it for everything, they've done that in basically every game since 1. >Phoenix gets hired to solo the Skully Islands>Phoenix gets hired again to be a pincer against Coup forces by himself or with a wingman, with the entire army being the other pincer>Nemo was literally built to kill everything it wanted so long as it always killed Dision>Mobius One becomes so legendary that his handlers eventually use him to solo insurrections, TWICE>Andersen and then Harling use Razgriz to end the war>Allied Forces realize Cipher is literally their only shot at stopping AWWNB before they launch V2, friendly squads literally sacrifice themselves so Cipher can make it through the canyon and reach Avalon>the entire Emmerian war effort is carried by Talisman providing all their air support. that, or Talisman took it easy and just coordinated ground troops to alpha strikes against the high value targets>Osea's seen enough legendary aces that they quickly peg Trigger as a Singularity, and every higher up from Bandog on quickly makes use of him>XO gambles on Rex being fucking crazy enough to make DD's Wings memes come true; twenty missions later Dealer comes to the same conclusion
>>584844812Only from a narrative perspective. More rank means you appear less. It's like how a show about a boat centered on the command nest would be all about the captain and his shirt suffers, but a show centered on the maintenance crew would mean the captain never even shows up as a character. So him showing up to dress down the XO when she disobeys orders makes sense, him giving a speech to the crew makes sense, him talking when hailed makes sense and him thanking Joker Flight in the final mission for protecting the Endurance makes sense.It's only odd he's flake because usually the captain of a boat is more of a prime time character in familiar fiction.
>>584845153High to fund their social programs.
>/aceg/ finally realizing that these games aren't the best written and entire characters get written off
>>584845153Probably pretty good, otherwise no one would live there with a war every other week.
>>584844158>other than the gambling, how is this different to any other leader/commander in the seriesEvery other game normally sends more than four planes to kill satan. The FCU's so fucking broke though that four planes is all they can spare at any time.
Explain the point of this character. No, really.
>>584845493to be an enchanting creature
How did the 2nd land battleship not go nuclear on the space elevator after we fucked that thing up?
>>584845284>it's only odd he's flake because usually the captain of a boat is more of a prime time character in familiar fiction.I mostly just see it as him being inhumanly busy, as the Endurance is basically the FCU's whole navy barring like, another smaller ship or two.
>>584845493Enthralling
>>584845493I am 99% sure she's the leet hacker that's with the Princess in 8.
>>584842984>>584842856I think it's more of a case of people struggling with spatial visualization. They don't think in three dimensions well. You see it in shooter games where it's rare to see opponents who ever look up. They have a hard time imagining how things fly through a three dimensional space. They will struggle to estimate where a target can be the moment that it flies out of their field of view. They just know to fling their plane in circles following the arrow until they see the target again, but during that time they probably forgot where the ground is.They don't see the apple. They did eat breakfast this morning.
>>584845305It's just narrative choice. Like how Jenkins gives his opinion on your flight formations per mission, as if the opinion of a goddamn mechanic matters for sorte. He could just as easily be replaced with the bridge coordinator that handles take off and landing. He's the one talking because you met him first and he's supposed to be your friend, it doesn't make sense otherwise.
>>584845493>Explain the point of this character. No, really.She's a child, in a Japanese game
>>584844812How often do you personally interact with your boss' boss at work? You are employed right?
>>584845193>>Osea's seen enough legendary aces that they quickly peg Trigger as a SingularityGetting your own Singularity must feel so fucking good, just put blips on his radar and remember not to kill him for retarded reasons, and bam, war won.
>>584845894t.
>get new pilot>realise he can shoot missles>immidiately send your force of 2000 people to take over a city of 3 million+What was she thinking? They'd be outnumbered by 10:1 by a group of football fans on a sunday.>invasion only thwarted by railgun artillery when it shows upAre non superweapon materiel simply ineffective in Strangereal?
>>584845493briefs you about the sun ship
>>584844195It might depend on the missiles in question. I'm fond of doubling down on speed for HVAA missiles. I've haven't experimented with HCAA yet, but I saw someone advocating for +range on them since they're kind of slow and have a bit of potential to miss and come around for a second pass at a turning target a bit like how heavy missiles in Armored Core can just keep hounding people, but not to such an extreme extent as in armored core.
>>584846114It sucks that Erusea's only Singularity turned traitor and then died to an Osean one. Meanwhile FCU and North Point still have theirs.
>>584845601Sotoans are caring and considerate people and designed their nuclear drivetrains to fail safely
>>584846114I like that Bandog was wise enough to have Count kill Full Band, not Trigger. He realizes that you can ask Singularities to kill baddies but doing weird blue on blue stuff is asking for a Fox 2 up the radome.
>>584846114According to the Alicorn DLC, singularities are considered liabilities. So it's a mixed bag.
>>584845493To setup nostalgia bait in a future sequel.
>>584846291what's wrong with Trigger murking Full Band
>>584845775>as if the opinion of a goddamn mechanic matters for sortehe's a major. he's not just a maintenance officer, he's THE maintenance officer. he's the expert on the systems, of course he'd be the guy to tell you using air missiles on a ground mission is silly
>>584846185>immidiately send your force of 2000 people to take over a city of 3 million+it was a FCU city under occupation, the citizens were sympathetic and there were not 3 million+ sotoans because they were being distracted moving up north>What was she thinking?rex proved that the shadows could bleed in the previous mission and every operation that had you in the air had minimal casualties. also, gambling>Are non superweapon materiel simply ineffective in Strangereal?no, because the emmerian military exists
>>584846372OIA glowies are full of shit, Osea was still fine with Blaze and North Point has stayed out of every major conflict thanks to Mobius
>>584845284>Only from a narrative perspective.not reallyeven higher status characters have appeared more often in the other games, like nikanor in 5you would think that the person who essentially gives you orders indirectly throughout the game would appear in some more cutscenes in some way or another, not even specifically to address you but just to appear in general, but nope, black woman must take priority
>>584846601No, I don't think they're full of shit. Being a liability is inherent to being a Singularity. It isn't just "he flies good and kills all the baddies", Singularies are capable of leading rebellions and overthrowing governments. So while Trigger may have never intended to do such a thing, the Osean government doesn't know that and can't trust him.
>>584846372They probrably are fearful of a singularity going to backstab more people than a TF2 Spy, which given the antics Nemo can cause...
>>584846453Probably not the best idea to potentially piss off your squadron's ace. Count pads his scores anyway so might as well have him actually get a kill for once.
>>584846291Count is stupid enough to kill a friendly without thinking.
>>584846462Game plays it fast and loose with the ranks, Cope was supposed to be Colonel but he's much too young.
>>584846692Besides Torres when has that really happened though? Most singularties just retire or bang their wives after the war.
>>584846897i think it's meant to convey how undermanned the FCU military is
>>584846704>singularity going to backstabother than pixy, which other singularities have done this? does mihaly count?
>>584846997I think Pixy is another example, as is Dision and Nemo.
>>584846602>you would think that the person who essentially gives you orders indirectly throughout the game would appear in some more cutscenes in some way or another, not even specifically to address you but just to appear in general, but nope, black woman must take prioritynigger whathalf the games you never meet the briefing dudes or your bosses, the best you get is chatting with your AWACS. you don't meet people in 1 or 2, the highest dude mobius sees is Sky Eye, cipher knows jack shit about Ustio, Ghost Eye represents the entire Emmerian command. blaze meets the fat fuck of Sand Island and later Anderson, McKinsey and Wiseman you meet but we don't know shit about Mage's boss or the LRSSG guy after Wiseman, here we hang out with the XO and sometimes the old man of the Endurance himself says hi.
I forgot how miserable glatisant is. It's the one mission from zero that's just boring as sin for me.
>>584847057>does mihaly count?Mihaly just followed the orders of YOUNG ERUSEAN OFFICERS, and kept flying even while his team changed flags. As far as we know he never fought against Eruseans, Shilage seems to have fucked off and declared independence without much fuss thanks to all the chaos happening. That is, before Trigger came knocking.
Staring my next Multirole-only Expert run after completing the assault record. Can I get the medal for Multiroles/Attackers/Fighters/EW aircraft only in Free Mission or do I have to reset my campaign data on a new campaign?
>>584847810All of the 'complete the campaign' ones cannot be done in free mission
>>584847407it's okay to say that the black woman is the most competent commander in the series, anon
>>584847952>falls for le sotoan ruse cruiseliterally the only commander to get duped like that in the entire series, you /v/ermin tourist.
Shhh /aceg/, your XO is speaking.Listen and Learn.
Can I shoot this guy down some time later?
>>584848226You think she and Dealer have hot cabin sex off hours? Strip poker, that Dealer always loses?
I'm glad people know how to deal with chandelier now
>>584848328Nope. He comes around, you'll see.
>>584848226yes ma'amt. the vice admiral
This is what happens to a general when the new release is shit
>>584848362Meanwhile I still get paired with apes not bringing bombs to deal with second phase Alicorn
>>584846997It's a case of the government viewing the situation of what THEY would do if the situation was reversed.
>>584848226She's not preachy in thisShe even got us cake
but seriously, why is a black woman an xo
>>584847810I bet that Kate is from Westhive. _______
>>584848627The cake is a lie anon...
>>584848686The same reason a black guy named Snow is your forth Razgritz
>>584848741Only a true gamer would understand this reference.
>>584848226she looks like the service technician on your ship in helldivers
>>584848741What if the cake was her black ass?
I like chocolate
>>584848778he gets a pass because he is a "based black man" as the young whippersnappers today saywhat is pike meant to be? a based black woman? a bbw, if you will?
>this is what /v/ threads has to deal with on a regular basis
>>584849057She was a pilot before XO, so formerly based
>ctrl + f "black">14 resultsWhich continent is the Africa of Strangereal?
>>584849016same
>>584849379wellp, time to jork it
>>584849468have a good one
>>584849312Leveling that drunk piece of shit to 20 was hell, worth it for being able to solo Chandelier but everything in the game being faster than you is not fun.
I'm playing both zero and 8 at the same time switching off back and forth every couple of missions and having a blast. Anybody else doing this?
>>584849556I only have it at around 10/15 and I already feel like I've wasted my zoll
>>584849329Ustio
>>584849661It sort of redeems itself once you unlock the cluster munitions but you can never bomb anything since even the A-10's get to targets before you do.
Where is Africa in Strangereal
>>584848226I like the mission 16 post-mission briefing where she pretends to reprimand you
>>584849882Well, there's this little place you may have heard of...
>>584849882Given all the conflict that happens there, it's basically Usea.
>>584849882On the other side of the planet that never gets any glaze
>Decide to buy and level the su-25 to complete my mgp collection>it flies like painThe things I do...
>>584850445They should let you test flight planes before you buy.
>>584850445How's the MGP Fishbed fare in dogfights?
>>584850282wowweeee this is uglywhere's it from so I can avoid it
>>584850587There is zero reason to use it like that when the Phantom is the same thing, but faster. The Migger is a SASM turret.
>>584849329Asian and African countries haven't been introduced yet.
>>584850587I'm a few thousand zoll from actually getting it, but I needed something cheap to level.>>584850572I'd do it anyway.
I'm glad PA stuck to tradition and made sure 8AGMs are abysmal dogshit in this game too.
>>584850610>where's it from so I can avoid itNeucom's digital containment zone
I want a green part that un-fucks my attackers' gun depression. God damn it's so annoying.
Got the default F/A18C to 20 out of boredom and it's surprisingly usable after you no longer want to use it, armament sucks outside UGB though.
>>584851082Should have just let Torres get his millie, it happened anyway, plus a few extra hundred thousand alongside.
>>584849882
How the fuck did Belka drop seven nukes and only manage 3000 people?
>>584851238The problem is Torres's ideology is basically "if I kill enough people, war will stop", which fails to understand why wars happen in the first place.
>>584845775Their wheels are unsheathing. :3
>>584851116But the F-4 is the default?
>>584851346
>>584851346It's like New York the state and New York the city, but one step up.
>>584851346Yuktobania is supposed to be a joke about the USA, they're Russia 'but what if instead, actually US' And the US is actually Colombia, with the District of Colombia being the capital, that is also called Washington DC, not to be confused with Washington State, not to be confused with the other country named Colombia, that the US gets its cocaine from.
>>584851116I'm at level 12 or 13 in mine and what gets me is that the Mirage is basically just an outright better F-18C. Sure it's got mid tier upgrade costs, but it's also got better abilities and stats. Plus low to mid tier costs are a way smaller jump than mid to high tier upgrade costs.
>>584851116LASMs are unfortunately cucked by the dearth of naval targets for them to kill. Maybe if the smaller landships were in MP or just an all naval map would help. In Assault at least I think the naval targets respawn if I map has them.
>>584851557I have an F-4 at 20 also. The F-4 has HVAA instead of 4AAM, so that's better and gunpods, so also better, but still handles like shit, even max, whereas the F/A18C stops handling like a piece of shit somewhere around level 15.
>>584851670Kate only like Rex because she's a white woman.
>>584851363Same way a thunder strike on a city only killed 4,000 people, PA don't like big number for bombings for some reason. Still threw out the 1 million war dead figure for some reason.
>>584852056shoo shooAce Combat's not for you
>>584851364That was just an excuse to justify his beautiful, elegant, perfect shot to kill one million.
>>584838857Dead Sotoans
>>584852308>beautifulWHAT DO YOU KNOW OF BUEATY?!Command Duty Officer! The target is that anon's house! The death of a million is a necessity!
>>584849727<<Yo cuh, still alive? And thanks nigga. See you again.>>
>>584852096a mere one million casualties after the entire Usea continent got turned into Spongebob by the Tonitrus is amazing feat
>>584852474The world just wasn't ready for that kind of writing yet, so they changed it last minute.
>>584852234She's even got him in the back seat.
>>584852540It's a million worldwide, those spears hit all over and it was only a million. Ridiculous.
>>584852540>TonitrusI mean most of the spears were only launched into the Rainband, the world wide strikes only happened at the end and were directed at specific facilties, not population centers.
Writers can't into statistics, the numbers are always either too big or too small.
>>584852740you can't tell me those Expo City holes are all military facilities, some of those might be civvie. It's a 'City' not an weapon industrial complex
>>584846185>>immidiately send your force of 2000 people to take over a city of 3 million+>What was she thinking? They'd be outnumbered by 10:1 by a group of football fans on a sunday.Anon you do know that when a city is occupied the population doesn't suddenly switch sides like a game of Team Fortress
>>584852686Yeah, Expo City alone should have been a million given it got hit multiple times.
>>584852932Bro, the news report flat out tells you they hit a school. And lets not pretend that hitting the strangereal version of the UN building, full of international diplomats, wouldn't immediately start a world war against Sotoa.
>>584853191100% of those kids went to the Promised Land, really Sotoa was doing them a favor.
Am i retarded for hitting the brake while turning in games without High-G Turns?
Anyone else kinda find it funny that they did a Redux of an infamous 7 mission in the same location with the same hated mission gimmick.
>>584853392No. Lower speed = tighter turns
>>584852974The FCU is the USEA, it's not meant to be America (that's OSEA) where everyone has at least sixty guns to a person. The FCU is the EU stand in. So their chance of rolling over is marginally higher. Still fucking stupid though, japs cannot into perspectives other than their own.
>>584853516Likely not enough Sotoans to maintain an actual occupation so the threat of Land Battleship strikes is used to keep the population in line.
>>584853476It's easier than what it was in 7 at least unless you want the Ace/Medal in one go.
>>584853516Rolling over yes and submitting yeah but actually joining up with the genocidal invaders without an already established desire to secede not so much, especially in the FCU core. You see it in the first mission where one of the separatists wasn't really down for licking riding boots
>>584853476Which one specifically?
>>584853754Faceless Soldier in Waiapolo.
>>584853476It wasn't as bad this time.
>>584853476>hatedlol
>>584853392the reason the devs make you do that in ace combat is because that's what you do to turn hard in a real jet. the effect is obviously just more exaggerated in the game
>>584853392Pro Tip: If you upgrade your roll and then upgrade your yaw too, you can do tight turns without slowing down. The caveat being, you have to do both at the same time, and you need a jet that has good, wide yaw, initially. The Fulcrum is one example, but you also have to max it out, so high tier six gen jets are more worth maxing out until PA gets off its ass to add real point limits.
>>584853721>>584853671If the FCU has it's own version of the UK and therein Ireland and the IRA therein, the land battleships wouldn't have lasted a single day without some crusty old mick bastards trying to suicide bomb anyone disembarking or repairing or fueling, every single damn day until the things was abandoned. Which is why I think the UK is supposed to be North Point (because NP doesn't like the rest of the FCU) and the Sotoans did not fuck around with.Could be wrong though, there are no true analogues to any country in Strangereal, everything is mixed a thousand times over.
>>584853824Ah. Well, the railgun fire in this one is more inaccurate than 7's sat-guided missiles and a hit does less damage as well. There's more wiggle room this time on where/how you can fly and the punishment isn't as harsh, it's just more forgiving even if the gimmicks may be similar.
>>584854504Playing normally Faceless Soldier was a joke but getting the S-rank there was the second longest ordeal in the game for me just behind Alicorn.
>>584854609It was piss easy as soon as you realize LAGMs trivialize the fuck out of it.
>>584854326>If the FCU has it's own version of the UK and therein IrelandI hate to be pedantic but Ireland isn't part of the UK
>>584854945part of it is
>>584855070Ireland and Northern Ireland are two different countries...
>>584854609Yeah, I can attest to the Ace hunt/S-Rank being annoying. I still think that even normally 8's Waiapolo mission has more wiggle room, felt like some areas in 7 had stupidly low cloud cover or long stretches in between valleys where you were exposed to missile tracking.
>>584855239Next you're gonna say Brits don't like being called 'European'
>>584855239"Ireland" also refers to the island
>>584855419Most of us actually do
>>584855419Eastern Europeans will hear the word "European" and say "THAT'S ME"
>>584855467You gotta be above a certain age. The geezers absolutely don't.
>>584851363Didn't they target a mountain pass to block an army's advance instead of nuking population centers?
So, why the fuck is Dealer the only Brit sounding Usean and Oka Nieba the only Russian sounding Yuke? Are the accents meant to only be extremely rural in Strangereal? Would an AWACS that sounds like some root'n toot'n long drawl Texan be the same sort of like out of the question rare in OSEA?
>two on the runWhy even keep this as a mission for subsequent runs, it's basically a cutscene
>>584853392It depends. Going slower means a tighter turn radius, but actually being slower makes you much more vulnerable to getting ganked by a third party. In more realistic flight sims, maintaining your kinetic energy is serious business. That's why so many air combat maneuvers try to "slow down" wihthout actually wasting their energy by throwing on the breaks. For example they'll climb to convert their kinetic energy into potential energy that can be reclaimed in a future dive, or do rolls/wide turns to spread their movement into multiple directions to slow their movement in one direction.If an opponent in front of you is turning and he's turning tighter than you can match, a novice play might be to throw on the brakes to slow yourself down so that you can match the turn. But a better play would be to climb into a high-yoyo so that you stay behind the opponent, "slow down" by banking some of your energy into the climb, get your nose on target with your now tighter turning circle, and then reclaim your speed with your dive onto the target.
>>584855859They hit at least one civilian area given the mission in 5 where you rescue Harling from the castle and everyone comments on the bombed out ruins of the once populated area surrounding it.
>>584856240They're required to have dogshit mission in every game. It's international law.
>>584856240It's shit, they just remade Final Option in 8 but you get a far lamer reward plane. At least there's SOME choice where you can pick which path you want to take, but 7 had a way cooler radar evasion segment.
>>584856372kek
>>584856365They probably did just fuckup their statistics then. If we're generous then maybe the population center was mostly evacuated in the face of the impending war.
>>584856372[add genshin-impact joke here]
You thinks Sotoans hoped Tewy would become like Mobius 1 and carry the entire war by herself until she got shot down by Tasha's mom?
>>584856589whatever that means cause I don't play that shit since I am a normal person.
>>584856629Sun Crabs are an exp item farm. You also got the Crab Nebula which was formerly, a Sun.
>>584856770no I don't want to know
>>584856793You do now, too bad.
>>584856770Sun Crabs are food, retard. Closest are Star conches.
>>584857007I like the Moon Carrots
Did Tewy even know who Cope was or was this all one sided on Cope's end?
>>584857425Unclear. She possibly knew him as 'that dirty poor staring at me while this gross goat is getting butchered'
>warfare and teamdeathmatch suck because the netcode is objective garbage>assault sucks because AI does nothing whatsoever to evade LAAMS.>scramble and emergency sortie never ever.I hate it.
>>584857560Replace Assault and Warfare with permanent Scramble, using named squads from past games, and more bosses on rotation for ES and you fix online. Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch stay the same as the smelly nerd pen.
>just took the cheeky su-25 to scrambleI needed that xp plz understand (I at least waited for people to pick turbo meta planes so I knew we were safe)
>>584857560I think I yoinked the whole squad's esort and scramble quota, in a single session I popped 2 esorts and 3 scrambles with an average of like 2 rounds in between.
>>584857793might as well just AFK, like me
>>584857906I actually shot down 2 planes (the easy ones)
>>584857793Bro the faster I get my points the better, go off king.
>>584857793You can fail a scramble? I don't think I've ever experienced that, even when half the team was F-4E, though even then I'd still be top of the board every other time.
>>584857560I would like assault if there were 4-5x more targets. The maps are practically sized for 2-3 players. Not 8.
>>584858142Yeah, it'a bad, at least calculate how many targets based on player level and plane/SPW selection.
>>584856616I do like the idea of a potential AC protag getting their wings clipped.
>>584858234It feels like they launched with just basic difficulty switched on. Like this should be cost 800 and below.
>>584858142Yeah, I've had times when it gives me four people and four bots and we still get S. There are twice as many people as there need to be.>>584858234It technically does try to scale, with difficulty 1/2/3. It's just nowhere near enough.Also it's a complete mystery how it picks difficulty too which doesn't help.
>>584858640Is the difficulty not dependent on the average plane level of the lobby or something? I started getting my Phantom past level 10 and I got a Difficulty 2 lobby with several high tier planes in it.
so does anyone think they go a little to crazy with the escort/escort and protect missions this time around?Feel like a parent running circles trying to keep their kids from putting metal into electrical sockets ever two minutes.
is saying no to hortus the fail trigger or do you have to approve the previous login attempts so that to trigger the too many login lockout?
>>584859406One of my campaign nitpicks is that there are too many annihilate/escort missions. I actually liked the gimmick canyon run, bunker busting, dust storm search missions from 7 but I guess they filtered too many normalfags so they simplified the campaign.
>>584859614it doesn't matter, they get it right in the end regardless of your yes/no
>>584859614Honestly I didn't even think to try because I have no idea whether it popped a checkpoint at that point.
>>584859406I played 6 right before 8 and no, not really. Just like in previous games you'll fail if you're not babying your infantry, they just have more units that can die and have more radio chatter about it now. 7 also had a couple of missions where infantry couldn't wipe their ass like Stonehenge Defensive and Homeward, but those like in 8 try to emphasize that the army's pretty fucking outnumbered and they need godlike air support to make it through.
Scrambles really should give guaranteed gold blueprints too
>>584859680Good gimmick missions are definitely a pretty nice way to break up gameplay, it's kind of stressful narratively to keep going from one high tension mission to another without somethiing simple/different to break it up. I guess it's part of 8's narrative that the FCU's constantly going all in just to stand a chance and that helps give the game is own identity, but the long campaign and full throttle nature of missions makes it a bit "heavy" to replay.
>>584859680>the fun missions filtering everyonethe dust storm mission was peak>>584859724idk, just feels like every other mission is an escort missions. But I guess that's more to do with the narrative than anything. Say what you will about 7 but the fact that the game was in re-write hell with two and a half storylines did help with mission variety.
>>584859406They needed to drop some of the escorts and give us more annihilation. Maybe even pretend one's an eacort and have it shot down at the beginning. Also at least one or two more canyon runs with not crap planes.
>>584859856best I could do is 1 when I feel like it
>Air Combat hangar music in MPholy fuck that took me back 25 years
>>584860235For all the shit you can (rightfully) give the Online mode I do genuinely appreciate the wide variety of music they cycle through. It's nice, desu
>>5848600066 really made me appreciate 7's design choices more. Most 6 missions are decently long and boil down to bomb the shit out of everyone and/or delete an entire airforce, then do it two more times until the mission ends. 7 tries to pace things out better by forcing the player to do something different every few missions, and average length is shorter to try not to overstay its welcome.7's weird development and mishmash of ideas let them include some really different mission settings. Dogfighting in thunderclouds among chinese valley spires, playing peakaboo in snowy mountains, facetanking a storm in a literal sand pit are all very creative and completely different from each other.
am i unable to find the squad because it's full or something?
Anyone else waiting for mods and skins to be ported before 100%ing the campaign? I wanna use some wild stuff.
Where the fuck even is shilage? on the maps in 8 erusea is just the same size as usual, where the fuck is savia?
>>584860421>Dogfighting in thunderclouds among chinese valley spiresdogshit>playing peakaboo in snowy mountainsdogshit>facetanking a storm in a literal sand pitdogshit
>>584860797tasteless faggot
>>584860797All of those missions? Kino I'm afraid.
>>584860797I mean you can hate what you want but there's no doubt that 7 has map/gameplay variety. If it's utilized well is another discussion.
>>584860837>if you don't enjoy flying through clouds that make the controls irritating at best, you don't have tastek
>>584860951>if theres any friction whatsoever its dogshit i hate any kind of challenge or restrictionyou stupid fuck
I just thought of this but... if we were all Belkans, wouldn't no one be a Belkan?
>>584861012>he thinks friction is the problemlmao
The only good mission in 7 was Long Day desu
>>584861037t. Belkan
>>584860421Yinshi valley is a great example of how crap 7s mission design is, shooting 15 AA guns/drones then a shitty scripted mihaly fight. 6 is better for not having you wait for dialogue triggers in 8/10 missions because the devs think you're too retarded to handle new targets popping up
>>5848610577's gimmicks are all kino and you're a retard>>584861082giga retard
>>584860587What the fuck is this piece of shit.
>>584861037That's what V2 was for.
>>584860421I really do find 6 to be one of the most interactive though. The contrails are so visually cool and I really miss them in 7 and 8. Also, I love that the ally attack is meaningfully powerful and that you really do feel like you're fighting over a huge operation in the missions. 7 had such a variety of missions that even if they're not all bangers they're all memorable. I would've loved it if 8 had as much variety, as opposed to just being shooting galleries. I really missed having crazy wind in some of those levels, like 2 On the Run in the mushroom cloud and Maximum Payload when you're shooting down Podarges. Or maybe they could've gone really crazy and made 8 a branching story where one option lets you desert the FCU.
>>584860295really is amazing that as soon the move to disc was made namco (and the vast majority of japanese studios) just decided to start going crazy with the music budget.https://youtu.be/CGR9gv1KHTQ?si=PfJz-1BV8_9xZxCW
>>584861431for me it's dead end
>>584861126heresy is what it is
>>584861367Shitters bitched about "gimmicks" too much for 8 to have had any chance of having many to spice things up. I would've loved for some more stuff like fighting in a big thunderstorm giving heavy turbulence and stuff
>>584861012The friction in question is trying not to fall asleep while traveling 2000km in a straight line to shoot a fucking truck in a dust storm
>>584861126Shit combined with shit, so just shit.
>>584861367As cool as the cloud tech is the contrails from 6 were great for creating massive furballs. I love going into an operation areas and seeing massive trails of smoke with planes all trying to kill each other.
>>584861789I wanted new gimmicks like mist or fog obscuring ground targets or Sotoan orbital superiority forcing you to fight inside an underground mine to secure some strategic objective.
>>584861431And to this day they STILL utterly mog Western devs in the music department beyond a handful of notable exceptions like Mick Gordon and Jasper Kyd
>>584837978Ace Combat with uma musumes who race to defeat enemies and certain ones die after being shot down like Silence Suzuka and Haru urara
>>584862153Yea that'd be kinda neat. Environmental stuff is funThough it's not like something obscuring ground targets is "new"
>>584837978G-Gundam but with jets with each nation getting a squadron to represent them
8 should have given us Allied Attack too whenever we have extra squadrons or destroyers/aegis supports in a mission.
>>584862281Yeah but that one was a permanent map debuff. I'm thinking something like the fog rises and lowers, or can be blown away if you fly low and fast enough then you need to circle around, or ahve your allies kill the targets, before it comes back.
8 should have had Tasha get shot down and how we do in a mission decides if she survives or dies.
Scramble missions should show one of those victory lap cinematics where your squad flies into the sunset.
>>584862472>or can be blown awaythe clouds in 8 can be blown apart by large enough explosions, if that counts
>>584837978Set in 2040s where we play as Corpo mercenary pilot on a mission to stop Nemo
>>584844027The Endurance is an eighty-odd-year-old WWII museum ship brought out of retirement shortly before the war. It isn't exactly a prestigious career assignment.>>584847057>>584847065Does Blaze count? Even if the Grey Men were manipulating things behind the scenes, the kill order came down through the pro-war Osean government.
>>584862153The molemen go native and we have to retake the base by flying through the tunnelsWe can call it (The) Descent
>>584861118Yeah, 7 really drags down when you have to wait for dialogue to finish just so you can play the game. 8 tones it down and never has anything as egregious as Mihaly, but 6 and the PS2 games just trust you to play.>>5848613676 definitely has the strongest mechanics in the series, it's a shame that it got banished to the 360 for reasons known only to Bamco. Its gameplay is incredibly solid (if repetitive, and some things being too overtuned like Allied Attack and the gun), and I wish Project Aces would take more from it.I definitely phrased my post poorly. I do appreciate 6 but it also recontextualized a lot of 7 for me, making a lot of 7's design choices feel like an interation or different approach to how they did things in 6. Not that they pulled off every change well, but at least they were thinking about how to keep things balanced. Like making time limits relevant again by cutting them down significantly and adding a clear time component for S-Ranks.
So I went on the Internet (classic mistake I know) and I found this. Thoughts?
>>584863072>it's a shame that it got banished to the 360 for reasons known only to Bamco>Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation was developed alongside Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War. Due to this, the team was spread thin and the game's development faced some trouble. However, the team persevered as they felt they needed to deliver a quality experience in an era where the gaming landscape was starting to change. With the possibilities provided by the Xbox 360 hardware, Project Aces developed the game around the concept of two large militaries clashing, aiming to realise battlefields on a scale larger than any previous Ace Combat title.[5]>The announcement was also disclosed through the March 2007 issue of Famitsu Weekly. On April 27, in an interview, producer Hiroyuki Ichiyanagi stated that the choice to make it an Xbox exclusive was made after research on new game hardware by Project Aces; as well, he commented that the decision was partly made because it was believed that fans had been kept waiting "for a long time", commenting on the timeframe between Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies and Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War, and to satisfy popular demand for online gameplay.[33]
>>584837978>the characters and plot of the next AC game>What do you create early 2020s mercenary story going to different conflicts around the world that kicked off during the Kessler-event blackoutand the story takes place over a few years, so there's lots of time for world changes and character development, people getting jaded, conspiracies developing, etc.toward the end of the blackout period, as the big countries are starting to clear the orbital debris and replace the world's satellite network, you get a "late Wild West" / "this is the closing of the frontier" feeling of melancholy from the worldand that pushes the other characters to feel like this is their last chance to do stuff, prompting them to rash action near the endby the end of the story, your squadron has seen a ton of shit, and your mercenary wingmen have all developed different ideas about how they should resolve things in the plot / in the world more broadlybut their ideas for the future are all mutually-incompatibleso you have to pick which one (and which faction / plan / worldview) to side withand that choice changes the last few missions of the game, depending on the path that you're on, changing who and what you're fighting for / against at the endkind of a spiritual successor to ACZ, I guessbetween the mercs, and the darker tone, and looking back to an earlier time period, and the branches for replay value
>>584862153>Sotoan orbital superiority forcing you to fight inside an underground mine to secure some strategic objective.shit, they could've done something like that for the underground bunker in fort grays island instead of simply ignoring the apparently massive labyrinthine structure that not even the military can get through and keeping its dwellers as schizophrenic mole people until the very end of the game
A tip for my fellow Berkut enjoyers in online mode: The "SAAM (Aim Range Spec) widens the aiming circle but shortens the lock-on distance. It doesn't decrease the missile range. In practice this doesn't really nerf you at all since you can simply dumb fire the missile into the air. It will pickup the lock in a few moments once the target flies into range of your tracking radar.
>>584860587>RF-71>Fictional armed variant of SR-71Isn't that just A-12??? Or the YF-12??
>>584837978Someone at GR or Neucom finds out they have a plan to over time push every government to form a single unified one and starts trying to tell the world, so they have an actual war to cover it up, but things spiral out of the controlled planned war because both sides constantly go "well if we attacked this, they'd be repairing it for years and we'd be really far ahead" and using the excuse they need to make it look real to shut down the guy leaking their plans. It's also heavily hinted at that people whose parents were in A World With No Boundaries have got high up in both companies. The player is from UPEO and turns up to shut down whatever they're trying to do.
>>584863072As a day 1 owner of a 360, I definitely saw Ace Combat 6 on shelves at the time. I just never bought it; I actually bought HAWX on a PS3. I think it was because I had a bad experience with Armored Core 4 where I felt totally lost in the setting and couldn't get into the gameplay at the time, which was too fast for me to really adapt, and so I assumed Ace Combat 6 would give me a similarly difficult experience since it was the 6th entry in the franchise.
>>584860587My nigga the Okhotnik alraedy exists
>>584847057>>584846692Greetings, I've come to help overthrow your government for a large sum of money.
>>584837978You start the game as a leading pilot of Recta as it invades Belka and Gebet. The war goes well until a Belkan ace starts killing off NPCs that you've met and fought alongside in the first 8 missions. Then you're forced on the defensive as Belka's superweapons are used against Recta's aerial fleets and the Belkan Ace cuts a swathe through other fronts in the war. You are forced into a desperate defense of Cor where Recta finally falls and surrenders, and Belka reclaims its land. But the game doesn't end there. Defecting with your squadron and support team, you become a mercenary outfit that flies against Belka at the behest of Rectan resistance groups. You get to one of 4 emblems and names for your squadron, slowly waging a guerrilla war against Belkan logistics and superweapons, until you face and take down Belka's ace. But the victory is bittersweet: your airbase is captured, you return to be a prisoner of war, and eventually you are released and reunited with your comrades as civilians, while above you either flies the Belkan Ace you spared or another squadron of guerrillas fighting in a new war.
>>584863072It was on 360 because Microsoft paid for it to be on 360. Same with Idolmaster, same with Tales. Exclusives sell consoles so they made a deal with Bamco to have their games be 360 exclusive. After a while they gave up on that though which is why AH was multiplat.
>>584845493To show that Belkans are also pedofiles
I hope that LAAMs are F-tier after their nerf.
>>584864587Yeah right. Next you're going to say the Dinsmark Files are real
>>584864034Oh, right. It's been the better part of 20 years since Microsoft was actually a competitive player in ye olde console race that I forgot they used to care about exclusives and game quality.
>>584849329>Which continent is the Africa of Strangereal?South Osea
>>584850610Vector Thrust
>when you tell tasha to forward attack and all you get back is that yuktobanian stare
>>584864942why does she look like a hapa
I am having fun with team deathmatchThe simplest mode that I wasn't going to play because I don't like PvP has been the most fun I had of all Online modes just because it has a cost limitLet that sink in
>>584865082...Because her dad is some kind of asian?
>>584865154I have no idea why we haven't started at LEAST a rotating set of cost limits for the main modes.
>>584865082Because she is one. Her Dad is Ace Combat Yakutian and her Mom was Yuktobanian
>>584864942>won't even use ESM or ECM before she's scripted to fireC'mon man, least help ME kill faster.
>destroying all three decoy boats before launch in singer won't automatically finish the mission and the drones still come outBOOOOOOOOO
I've been making AC8 booster packs to sell trading cards and get free money (actually wallet funds but whatever I buy games sometimes so it's effectively free money).I've gotten five Kates from the last three packs I've opened. You get three cards per pack so that's a 55% Kate rate even though there are nine possible cards so it should be 11%.I don't know what that means but that's a lot of Kates.
>>584838531Mean nothing to stop them doing a character that talks? They have done it before in AC2
>>584865346
>>584865476just use a sasm and you take out the whole swarm
>>584865502
>>584865504You can just hose in front of the boat with bullets and the explosions chain react them all.
>>584864005>RectaI've always like them as a potential conflict settingthe capital of Recta, Cor, is so far away from most of the rest of the country (especially the parts that they most recently took from Belka) that I've always seen Recta as the most-likely location for a pro-Belkan separatist / reunification movement (aside from South Belka, I guess)there are a bunch of studies that show, at both the regional subdivision (i.e. US state) and national levels, that when a capital city is far away from the population that it governs, it is reliably less responsive, more corrupt, and less liked by its peoplewhether it's because >they're more out-of-touch with the needs and wants of their population>they're less-able to distribute resources around the territory>they're less able to project police / military power and maintain their hold over the territory>they're just using their relative isolation and lack of oversight to get away with whatever corruption / mistreatment they can whenever I see Cor, this is all that I can think ofthere have to still be Belkan populations in the north-west of Recta, and they almost certainly hate how they're governed from Corif PA ever thinks to apply real-world political science to their map, Cor's location is the reddest of red flags>state-level: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.104.8.2456 >national-level: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/app.20170111
>>584865543Damn, that'll make farming that even easier. Thanks.
>>584865480Huh now that you mention it 2 of my 5 drops were Kates.
>>584865619Isn't that why Recta split up into Gebet and Recta?
>>584864714If you want to be gracious 2010 or 2012 was the last time they were just because of Halo Reach and COD DLC exclusivity. It was all downhill from there, but Microsoft is fucking retarded.
>>584865714I'm not sure what you mean
>>584865619Why is the capital of Gebet "Moms?"
The Moon 11 boss fight is so much better than Topkek and His Retards Three. You have opportunities to get on her ass and she doesn't notch your missiles or spam flares arbitrarily, and the drones actually get pulled away from her long enough to pick them off one by one.>>584865480Gaben knows she's best girl, clearly.
>>584865504yeah but I wanted cool dialog for being a speed chad.
>>584865481Nothing stopping them, but they don't seem to want to drift from the traditional formula too much.Dunno if this is controversial, but I would actually like for them to start making voiced protagonists with an actual character. Would be a nice change of pace from the three decades of mute no facers. Or even have POV swaps so it isn't just one dude slaying an entire nation's military.
>>584865918Like AH?
>>584865767it's "Mons"the quality of the video that I grabbed the screenshots from is just badI remember a few years ago there was a poster in /aceg/ from the real Mons in Belgium who was really happy that his random small city was a place in Strangereal
>>584865346>Yakutianisn't that a real life ethnicity
>>584865946Yea, except in Strangereal, and not shit.
>>584865946Like AH but good, yes. I think Bishop was fine as a main character, but the other two player characters are both really flat. The door gunners aren't even actual characters.
>>584865996yesI think that people are saying that, based on his features, he's the Strangereal analogue to IRL Yakuts
>>584866074Out of the two secondary, I honestly feel the bomber girl has more character. That Apache pilot is....eh???
Actually, you know I think it'd be funny if we could use our stupid pilot avatars from multiplayer as our Rex. At least in replays.
>>584837978Ace Combat Vyou play as a yuke squadron during the events of the circum-pacific war. the first few missions show the start of the war from the yuke side until you sink the OFS Kestrel, Buzzard, and Vulture, on their way to the Bannion Sea, as well as shooting down a random squadron of F-5Es, radically shifting the events of the war
>>584866128She does but only barely. D-Ray's just black military man, like one of the GI Joe characters no kid had as their favorite or the one who dies at the climax of some Netflix tacticool movie to raise the stakes. Major Rehl does crack a few jokes here and there with her crew and with Bishop. D-Ray and his co-pilot could have been a really good opportunity for some banter which is a shame.
>amwf
>finally witnessed randoms killing chandelierfinally
>>584866321It's a development from the nth Kei Nagase.
>>584866372I levelled the MGP planes just so I have the power to single handedly carry.
Man imagine being some bumfuck nomad kid meeting what passes for royalty, getting a crush on a chieftain's daughter, never seeing her again after she becomes a pilot, and then only finding out she went on to start warcrimemaxxing after you got shot down by the dork she picked as her right hand man.
>>584866321>amwfyes hello welcome to 80+% of anime pairings (aka Japanese writers' and audiences' wish fulfilment)
>>584866436I've been trying to get better at the tunnel runs. I hate all of the smoke and shit obscuring the collapsing beams, and it's compounded by retards in Morgans slapping the exterior armor for no effect with the screen shake burst missiles.
>>584859687as in saying yes to all the previous ones but then saying no at the last one (versus saying no to everything)
>>584865354>make character perfectly suited to showing off your new EW class>refuse to let her use itAmazing job, PA.
>>584837978>let you write the characters and plot of the next AC game. What do you create anons?Dating sim!On background, there post-apocalypse setting where peoples assemble things from old world remains.
>spend the whole game following a teammate as he calls out targets>suck at PVP dogfighting, 8's MP dogfights don't click for me like 7's MP eventually did, so I mostly just pop IEWS bubbles and give the ally targetting bonus>bully the phantom twice because he's actually groundpounding and even my shitass can handle a phantom in a barricader>feel like shit because I'm not scoring points>realize at the end how hard the enemy team got shut downI need a shower after this. I wish winning in Online didn't also mean shitting on the enemy team, even Assault revolves around making sure the enemy has less fun than you.
>>584866436F-4E squadron assemble!
>>584865918>Or even have POV swaps so it isn't just one dude slaying an entire nation's military.I think they have been less interesting if Mage, Spare, and Strider Trigger were 3 separate pilots.
>>584866609Do you know if the Su25's MGPs do more damage? I'd be tempted to fly the frogfoot, but fucking hell the offset guns are so fucking obnoxious.
>>584866607>F-4 Phantom pilot is actually able to still score that many points despite facing a team of sweats>He actually scores more points than the most broken aircraft in the gameYou really should feel bad for going after him.
>>584866708Only on Chandelier. Alicorn is equal and Arsenal Bird it's less effective than the F-4E or MiG-21bis.
>>584866708the 25's ATG is nearly twice that of the F4
>>584866560>as in saying yes to all the previous ones but then saying no at the last onethat's exactly what i did and it was fine
>Alicorn>Chandelier>Arsenal Bird>ACABoh my god I cracked the code
>>584866708From what I have seen no? Mainly because F-4 gets two abilities that boost their MGP. Think it gets like a 1.7x damage boost?
>>584866962>ACAB>Actually, Cope was Always Basedbravo kojima
CERTE, PER CAELUM VOLAESTO LIBER, OH, ESTO LIBERVOTA RELICTA IN POSTERUM SERITOFI VENTUSCERTE, AETHERA DOMAUBIQUE, OH, UBIQUEVOTA RELICTA IN POSTERUM SERITO
>>584866962AllCima islandersAre Bastards
>>584866962>ACAB>Ace Combat Avenging BaxterSotoan removal DLC confirmed!
Grimes kinda looks like Tasha to me.
>>584867143I don't agree.
Would Tasha have been better off if she was a boy?
boy I sure hope they add a LOT more superweapons and increase the chances of getting emergency sorties because I'm going to burnout from playing assault all day
>>584866959Actually the youtube list of fails says it's when DD fucks up the password thrice
>>584867263She's somewhat boyish coded already.
I wanna huff on Kate's sweaty clothes
>>584867352oh, it can legit fail from that? i'm pretty sure i did yes yes no and my squadmates just ignored the last no and told him to put in hortus regis alti and it proceeded just fine despite the third attempt warning
>>584867504>said yes on the obviously wrong answers>says no on the obviously right answerAre you retarded or did you do it on purpose?
>>584867284They have the framework for at least 4 more. And we should get higher difficulty versions of these 3 as well. I expect that what they'll do is when they feel like putting on an event we'll get like x2 or x3 rates for sorties/scrambles.
I missed what Tewy said in the previous cutscene so I had no fucking idea what they were referencing and had to just guess at the end
>>584867582i wasn't paying much attention to be honest, and i had no intention of remembering anything a s*toan said to me
>>584867714Anon, that's retarded.
>>584867840just like Sotoans
>>584867263Only if you could give him the pleasure of being cummed inside.
>>584867840come on man the first half of that mission is so fucking boring, what a massive let down after what happened before
FCU Ground Forces retake Theve HQ, 2029 during Operation Gut Shot.
YOU'RE A SOTOANYOU'RE ALL SOTOANS
>>584867923Anon, that's retarded.
>>584867586>>584867284What do you guys think the next superweapon is? I'd put my money on Excalibur. It almost feels like it was too complicated for launch so they turned what they had into Chandelier, as it makes far more sense to have to the AC0 thing, unless each superweapon precedes the next battle pass and it's AC6 flavored, in which case I am going to coom buckets while deleting people with my mini missiles.
>>584867981This is MW2. Not Ace Combat 8.
>>584868047no u
>>584868082yeah but still
>>584868089>isn't in the promised land himself>forced to direct people to the thing he most desires for all eternitylmao shouldn't have shot those parachutes ya loser
>>584868063Excalibur would probably have filtered people, but I think I've forgot what base difficulty Excalibur was like.
>>584868063Am I wrong for hoping they change the CGA's funny high-g quirk?
All that effort to get falken to show up just for it to die in 2 missiles and not even be playable, lmaoStill, fun game
>>584868264>CGAFucking phone posting at 5 am.The CFA is my planefu but it just won't be very fun in online as long as you need to level out to cancel a high-g turn.
>>584868082
>>584868257It's been a while, but I think it's one of the more complicated ones, and doesn't stuff change depending on what path you're on? I think it's the one with the branching tunnels and bunches of holes you can bail out of mid-tunnel run.
>>584868320
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>>584868315I hope they leave it in so people used to it like us can overcome the difficulty and be even cooler for handling the beast.
>>584868408Okay I looked it up and it would absolutely filter people with the new flight model, god damn we used to be fucking UFOshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N13A5vXsB5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7dz1CKLJY8Nice details.
>>584868439
>>584868517>AYY-WOKSEvery time.
>>584868482It would be a cool feeling. Though even using it online would require them unfucking it so I actually want to keep playing it in the first place.
>>584868517>Excalibur with reflector bitsholy fuck
>>584866801I would've groundpounded as well but the Fullback locked in his choice and I wanted to level the Barricader. I knew Scofield Plat wouldn't have a lot of air targets for me to play with going into it, I didn't know how much NO FUN ALLOWED I was about to give the other team. I've mostly seen Fort Grays in the Barricader where I'd farm YF-23s and then mess with the other guys after the second wave spawns and the game makes you collide with each other, so many teams just don't play attacker or take any A2G weapons.Other anons have mentioned that warfare is just a race to see whose attacker is better and whose jammer is more annoying, but no one can really convey how cancerous it is to not be able to play the game for like ten minutes while watching the other team's score go up exponentially.
>>584868517Ahh, I was thinking of thr AC0 version, yeah. Man, it's so cool how much more info the HUD gives you than AC8's MP.
>>584836070>It's Not A Warcrime If They're Belkan Or Sotoan EditionMavismen is made for guro then?
>>584868063Either Stonehenge or a Land Battleship attack.
>>584868063Wasn't Stonehenge leaked by modders?
>>584836070>Finished mission 25 and went through a roller coaster of emotions>Surely the next one is gonna get better right. Baxter's here!>mfw mission 26I'm going to go full Pixy on these motherfuckers and not even Cipher can stop me.
>>584869064no, it was a mod
>>584869084surely, the game will let you give them everything that they deserve... right?
>>584869064Stonehenge would probably be the easiest, the way they scaled the difficulty up was just to shove more shit in too, like "oh there's a kottos fleet there too now, deal with it"
>>584869031>>584869064>>584869140Stonehenge + land battleship. BOTH OPERATIONAL. Both shooting at you.RAILGUN WARNINGAILGUNWARNING
>>584869208OH SHI-
>>584869208>We finally get a reason for why they brought up the land battleship parking at Stonehenge>Introduce new chat commands for the mission> << Well pilots, I hope you wore your brown pants today? >>
>>584869208Could use air cover from some Spiridus HITASMs.
Replaying Mission 20 on Ace, just everything about that final part is great. ><<Joker 1 stay behind and shoot down all the shadows>>>[Mission Update]>Outlier starts playing
>>584867383Would follow the Japanese tradition of if it looks like a girl, sounds like a girl, there isn't an unreasonable chance its still a boy. Which oddly feel would explain a lot about Tasha as a character
>>584869208You coward, Why not Air carrier + land battleship teamup?
What if they made you fight every superweapon there is and it's all on a single map. Some superweapons (like Excalibur) have a massive range and can target you whereever you are but some can only be of immediate danger only if you're near them.Some weapons (like Chandelier) have additional stuff that can be launched (let's say it's nukes) and if you fail to stop the launch you can attempt to intercept it but if you fuck up that too it covers a big area and destroys/damages every plane in whatever area it covers. Also, you can only bring one plane and resupply exactly once. If you die - you can't respawn.
>>584869679>MISSION UPDATE<<*autistic nomad larper chanting intensifies*>>
>>584869208>Sotoan captain is actually reasonable><<All hands, abandon ship! I repeat, all hands abandon ship!>>>a mass of yellow boxes begin pouring iut of the ship>you highlight one>+10ptswhat do
>>584869741same as alwaysugbl
>>584862706This would go unbelievably hard.
>>584869741Use guns.
>>584869659What if they made an Air Battledhip instead?
I finally finished the campaign, God that was good. The ending's kinda rushed, felt like a speedrun of 5's ending where the conspiracy gets wrapped up. I cannot fucking believe they made the real antagonist a bunch of cryptobros trying to use the blockchain to isntitute the New World Order. I'm gonna need a few more playthroughs to figure out what my final opinion of this game is, but so far I think it's gonna be a little higher than 7 is.
>>584869741i brought ugb's for a reason
>>584869965I think Mission 30 would have been improved with an Enso leader screaming at you over Comms like most AC villains do.
>finish sorite prep>stay in the hangar for a couple minutes to hear peak on loophttps://youtu.be/sBh9-T4CGRk
>>584869910That's what the air carrier turns into at higher difficulties, while also being a carrier.
>>584870061The creepy German TTS voice was pretty good though, it actually spooked me a little.
>>584869773>>584870034Too quick. Too merciful. I would demand napalm be added for just this mission.
>>584870061>the first antagonist with an indian accent
>>584869965>a little higher than 7Only a little?
>>584869910>>584870126>it just turns into the Macross on the max difficulty level
>>584870179SAARS DO NOT REDEEM THE PHONE
>>584870179>Swarms of drone Tejas fly out>They crash unexpectedly
>>584870135it's not German it seems like Icelandic
>>584870385It's a mix of like 5 different languages. Just like the AI in the real world immediately breaking languages to communicate faster, but this seems to almost be a malfunction, like it wasn't supposed to be voicing them but a switch was flipped that it can't unflip itself. Also with the same sequence it says different things, some are simple calls like firing the SLCM, while others a calling specifically that the SLCM fired is aiming for the stern or amidships. Very eclectic.
>>584870216Right now I'd literally give it an 8 out of 10 in comparison to 7. Could go higher or lower based on how my replays of it go.>>584870385>>584870636Interdasting. And even creepier, I swear shitty TTS voice trying to communicate is a horror cheat code for me.
>>584870251>SAMIR YOU ARE BREAKING THE SUB!>shaddap
>Jeet Combat: Designated Shitting Skies
Crazy how much easier it is to gun enemy planes down in 7 and 8 compared to the ps2 games. The gun reticle is more stable, the controls feel much nicer and more precise.
>>584870224It won't be Macross until we can equip a sword to the nosecone of our Nosferatu and slash other jets during high-G duels
>>584866074I liked Janice/spooky 01. And she's playable for half of 1 mission!
>>584870385It's definitely german at least partially, a lot of its callouts sound like "[thing] gebrechen loggen" aka "logging [thing] damage/broken">>584870636It doesn't call where it's aiming, rather where it takes damage during the ramming segment. It is interesting how many unused lines it has though, there's a bunch of extra weapon calls and seemingly a forcefield activation callout as well
I love the MiG 29, worth investing in multiplayer tho?
>>584866965It doesn't. It only gets 1 MGP upgrade that increases damage by 20% and one general upgrade that increases damage to targets within 1000m by 10%.Su-25 gets the anti surface attack modification that increases damage by 20% but as an attacker it also has a natural buff against ground.Su-25s base(non-MGP) gun also deals double damage.
>>584866418>ps3
>>584872356In retrospect I'm kinda glad we never got a holy trinity remaster in that era
>>584872051so that's what that was about. On my first playthrough, I thought I had accidentally enabled screen reader or something. Then on my second playthrough, I was trying to figure out what it was saying and all I could make out was "lager lager lager."
>>584872051>a lot of its callouts sound like "[thing] gebrechen loggen"Then I guess I'll have to listen to it again.I was specifically listening for "zerstört" or "gebochen" before, but I never heard it.Also, "gebrechen" is apparently more like "affliction" or "defect," so maybe that's what they were calling out when parts got disabled. I'm nowhere near fluent enough to know whether or how it might be used in a military context like this.If a word sounding like that was in there, then the only similar-sounding cognates that I could find are "gebroken" in Dutch and Frisian, which mean basically the same thing anyway.
>>584872356>it's not a clock, it's an altimeter
>>584870061I liked the weird robot voice, it was the first villain with some sauce.shadow's inflection is flatter than the flapjack and tewy couldn't even pull the Pasternak and had to run away to nuke the GTA
>>584872289No, it's not exceptionally good at anything and the things it's okay at have no role in MP.
>>584872298The base gun would be more useful in tunnel runs if it wasn't zeroed at a retarded angle
>>584872289If you were a halfhearted or full-on sweaty minmaxer, you wouldn't've asked,so I say go for it.
>>584867472I want her pain meds
Sticking this on my plane and buzzing the control tower on Comona Space Base where Nagase can see it.
>>584872051>It is interesting how many unused lines it has thougheither they have or had plans to make the fight more involved, or feature it in a DLC or Onlinewonder if the forcefield is just those drones again though
I just did and it didn't pop. Does it pop after you complete any upcoming mission?
>>584870061I read an idea (might've been here) where instead of being automated the Triumphant is being crewed by a bunch of Enso techbros who are struggling to operate their new toy and are leaning hard on its AI systems to compensate.
My antisocial ass didn't even try "search for party" feature. Just realizing you can look for open Emergency/Scramble parties, and it works as expected.
>>584874209That's a thing?!
>>584873835>the Triumphant's maiden voyage is the equivalent of an overhyped IPO rugpull
>>584874209what do you mean that's something you can just do
>>584874242>>584874330OK I got too excited. After my first scramble find, I've been refreshing and no one is hosting, haha. At least, if I don't get one on my own, I can check this, before q'ing back up for assault/warfare.
>>584866708> offset guns are so fucking obnoxious.Skill issue
>>584874209do these update in real time or do i have to click the "search for party" button over and over again
>>584874497I host emergencies when I get the chance and they fill very fast. Seems like there are a lot of people on the lookout.I'm pretty surprised you're allowed to do it, given that they deliberately tried to stop people doing that in ACI by disguising raids as normal maps on the server browser.
Buddies, do you like the current flare system in the newer AC games, or do you think it should be changed somehow?
>>584876314It should be removed, it adds nothing interesting to the game.
I think EW planes were a massive fucking mistake. At least in PvP(vE). It just fucking ruins the entire momentum of a match and reduces it to either one side utterly curbstomping the side that didn't sortie with an EW, or a tedious slog of a gunfight where people just spin in circles until the EW runs out. I don't have the answers, but I know for a FACT that there has to be a much better way to implement those planes without it just shitting all over the match. I mean, genuinely, it's utterly unplayable in 1v0 scenario. That's not how that shit works in real life OR in strangereal, you remember any normal enemy NPC aircraft that suddenly became magically untargetable and could suddenly sling missiles at 90° because a fucking AWACS showed up?
>>584876347Agreed, there's no point to flares. They don't add anything to the gameplay, and you don't get many so you need to dodge most missiles anyway. There's no reason for them to exist.
>>584876314Giving everyone 4+ "get out of missile free" cards in a 5 minute mission was a mistake. It forces them to overbuff missiles and makes direct-fire weapons like the TLS way too OP since they can get around the flares. It also makes massacring NPC AI targets way too easy since missile tracking and capacity is tuned for players who can flare them.They aren't as much of a problem in DM/TDM because PvP is constant but when you've got a Fullback just farming points the entire mission it can save its 6(six) flares for the few PvP encounters it will get into.
>>584876015Seems like you have to "start search" each time.
>>584876314We'll never lose flares so maybe just lower the amount we get and drastically lower their regen and effectivenessMaybe enemies on higher difficulties could have missiles that ignore flares or something
>>584876853holy fucking japslop video gameas i suspectedthanks
Don't mind me, just sitting in my A-10 minding my own business
The good thing about having played this over two weeks, two missions per day, is that I can start again and there are some early missions that I forgot about and feel new again
>>584876936Does the A-10 turn less like an actual fucking brick than the SU-25?
>last initial shadow in mission 20 pre-ambush is immortalThe fuck really. I restarted 3 times to get perfect conditions just for see how this fucker tank shoots.
>>584876973Nope. The only attackers worth flying in online are the Fullback and the Strike Eagle and the Fullback is better outside of Emergency sorties.
>>584876314I do not use flares.I have never used them since they were introduced to the series—just because the old games didn't have them, and I feel that the new games shouldn't, either.
>>584877025When I tried killing them early the game got mad and declared the transport had been shot down even though there were no enemies near it instead.
>>584869064No modders just ported the infinity version over.
>>584877068Then the su-25 is peak attacker for real content then, at least for now.
>>584876314Flares should be functionally infinite, like MSL, but use should be based around a strict cool down hierarchy dependent of aircraft type.
>>584876973It's still a brick but I bought the Maneuverability part really early so I can't really say how bad it is
>>584877467That seems very hard to do right. They'd need to be on a very long cooldown to avoid being broken, which means there's a very good chance they wouldn't have recharged by the time they were needed again. Very hard.
Is the difference between>ace combat 8 with all settings set to max on the in-game menuAnd>ace combat 8 with all settings set to max on the .ini files and renodx fixing the hdrAs big as it was with 7?
>guns get a damage penalty vs shipsThat's reasonable given that ships have a lot of hp and are big targets so they'd be very vulnerable to guns otherwise.>that penalty also applies to gunboats/missile boatsNo fuck you they're just AAA/SAMs on water. They shouldn't be super tanky vs guns, they should die just as fast as their land versions.
>>584837978Two parallel campaigns that alternate which side you're on. AC6 style operations with AC8's peristence of surviving allies. Final confrontation has you playing the side you've gotten the least score/least surviving allies in an all out massive battle against the other side including against the mute schizo you've been playing as on the other side in a super plane that's actively fucking up your mooks. The player characters are twins that were seperated at birth.
>>584872356>Whoa ooooooooooooooh
>>584876314flares for the player seem kind of token and flares for enemies are just randomly not being able to kill them with missiles occasionallythere are some interesting uses of it (escort planes using flares to protect the orbital launchers is a good example) but most of the time my only interaction with them is when it becomes egregious (shadow shitting out infinite flares for no particular reason other than that's how they make them not die because the shadows all kind of suck)
A-10 and Frogfoot are really miserable against the Alicorn, even when you can outrun the railgun there's a often slight lag and you can still eat a shot for half your health
>>584878039THE SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNSS NEVER DIIIIEEE
Thanks for the Scramble, fellas
I recently watched dIgital foundry's video on 8 since it also served as a series retrospective and for the longest time I always heard Assault Horizon Legacy was received terribly from journalists back in the day when I first got a 3DS (to be fair I hadn't played an AC game back then and was about to phase out of handhelds at the time). Hearing John's thoughts on it had me curious to look into it on my 2DS, what're your guys thoughts on it?
when do you buddies think 8 will go on sale? during christmas?
>>584878620It's pretty middling and not much better than AC2.The best mission from 2 still is the best mission in Legacy too.>have to fight the enemy ace team>suddenly ZoE shows up and the ace team fucks off to regroup>you shoot down ZoE and go back to dogfighting the enemy ace teamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WomZUtSfyvkSo cool. However 2 had Fire Youngman playing on that mission so it's actually tie between the two games.
>>584872289Its shit but it's also cheap, so it balances out, plus you should always have your planefu maxed in multiplayer even if its bad. Thats how thesebgames work I don't make the rules.
>>584878620it's alright as it's own game but it fails as a remake of 2. it strayed too far from the original whilst not changing enough, in particular it doesn't do a great job at tying it to Strangereal and only does the bare minimum in regards to it
>>584878620I thought it was decent, but I haven't played 2 yet to compare it properlyThe inclusion of DFM is a serious black mark though, even if you can beat enemy aces without it it's clear those fights are balanced around it so they can be a real pain in the assAs far as portable games go X is still the king and JA is still at the bottom
>>584877628Not hard at all, just add Flare upgrade parts properly so if some ECM fag wants their, in this example, dogshit flare timer to be better, they have to waste a part slot. Part slot economy is the most important thing about this ass of an online mode already and planes like the F-14A already have an Ability to equip more flares on a shorter cooldown. So just make more flare manipulation a thing for everyone officially.
>>584878620the controls take a bit of getting used to but it's fun. I'd like it more if it had good controls but with the 3DS you can only do so much.
What's everyone's fav tier 1 aircraft? Definitely not a thinly-veiled what-should-I-level-now-that-I'm-farming-gold-bp question.
>>584879372a6e
>>584879372Level the f-4e, it can carry a fair whack.
>>584879372F-14D
>>584876520EW should make it so that whatever effect you apply gets inversely apllied to you. ECM field? Means you're more easily targeted by enemy. ESM field? Means you can't target enemies yourself. Then you'd have to actually work as a team to benefit from it.
>>584876520i think they would be fine if they were limited to either ecm or esmiews as a whole is just completely retarded
>>584879372Ea-6b. Funny how it flies when fully upgraded.
Reminder to bring a SU-25 to the chandelier.
>>584879805I was using the phantom before I levelled the 25
>>584879389Based Snoopy enjoyer.
>>584879243wtf anon, 2 is fun and short, go emulate it. my major issues with the ps1 era games was that machine guns are a suggestion and making practical use of them felt nigh impossible to me unless you were basically eating out the enemy's ass, but that's what missles are for baby. basically the blue print for every game after, although I also enjoyed what the original accomplished in spite of some it's design choices.
>>584879805>guy who was ahead of you crashed into the ceiling after the core blewkek
>>584879805I'll always use the Phantom for superior aesthetics.
>>584880502
>>584874497they pop up every couple minutes, i played like 6 in a row todaybut aside from you there are always more fiends looking out and trying to snatch slots from your graspyou just gotta be kwik
>>584880195I'll get around to it once I wrap up Electrosphere, I've been putting finishing it off for too long
is there an ace combat squadron camouflage database somewhere? i need references
Thanks for the input everyone. I've been traumatized by A-6E after the escape mission, and I already have Mig-31 for LAAMs, so I will give the other suggestions a try.
>>584880579
Thanks for the Emergency Sortie, finally finished my pass with that
>>584880651definitely do that, I'm assuming your going for all the routes for the true end?definitely my favorite of the PS1 era games, and possibly my absolute favorite AC game to date (need to finish 0, 6, and 7)
>>584879805>all those misses at the start because of the stupid downward pointing gunshate attacker gunshaaaaate
>>584880914Of course
good morning /aceg/i ate like a pig and i'm stuffed to the brim
>>584881127you're too fat to fly
>>584881210
>>584881127What a disgusting gif
>>584881280He's... He's just like me... I thank you...
>>584881320she's going through a lot in that scene, you will never understand the horrors and struggles of... moe moe kyun~...
>>584881280where did you find this picture of my chandelier teammates
>>584881461I mean yeah her friend just got stabbed to death in front of her and that is pretty bad.
Happened to me again award.
I really hate scripted missions.
Is the squid still full? When are you kicking the tourists, question?
>>584881881then you hate ace combat
>>584881881It's fine when they're clear about it. Like Escort Orbiter, you're escorting a jumbo jet with """nothing""" else happening, CLEARLY some scripted shenanigsns are coming your way, and the payoff with the 'against all odds' solo dogfight is fucking glorious. When they tell you it's gonna be a crazy all out fight and then you have to just sit there for 3mins while people yell at each other it blows.
Would the modern ACs be better off having an original proprietary engine or sticking with UE5 for a hypothetical quick turn around sequel/remake?It's probably too late for them to bother making a whole new engine when they've been using UE5 for a minute, but unless UE5 makes more improvements to optimiztiong (lol) I think they've maxed out what they could realistically push out of the engine.
I like flying the F-15C in Online but you can really feel the lack of LAAM and range in general
>3 Emergency Sorties and 2 Scrambles in one day, without having to party up for any of themWhat is even happening anymore
>>584882398They'd probably be better sticking to UE5 and optimising from there, making a new next gen engine is HARD.
>>584882398Realistically, there's no option but to use Ue5 unfortunately. One can only hope that the ai bullshit they're pushing recently will be better at optimisation than the coders they've had before.
>>584882398They haven't made a new engine since ACAH lol, they're going to stick to unreal engine.AC7 ran fine tho, even if it wasn't as graphically impressive for its time as ACAH, AC8 doesn't quite run fine, but it's pretty enough i'm satisfied, Nanite really helps a ton.
>>584882131Well. In shuttle transport escort there 1. 2x B-2. You can't intercept them if you not run to fire point right after mig-31 close to shuttle2. Shittons of enemies that... can do nothing after shooting (and missing) shuttle once. They literally fly 4 km ahead of shuttle and do nothing until player come.3. There hidden explosives in transporter, and Selene will trigger it if you will go down Shadow100 before 99 will come. Also 100th squad have void shield that he allowed to use only if their plane the last survived and 99th not come.4. If you will stuck near transporter, all 100500 f18 will do nothing and just die as obedient dogs, and then also Shadows.Also there not "nothing happens". Mirages spawn in like 1 min after mission start, and then rate of spawn only increased - or it can be tied to down planes but for me it have the same result.I should be able to down Shadows just in way as i able to down B-2: trading vip safety for long-term advantage.
Controversial Opinion: Euro Truck Simulator, but just for Bomber aircraft. Fully Simulated 24 hour B-2 bombing runs and such. Select from a choice pick of bombers and loads and bomb things either in single player or with a crew.
>>584883712>Comfy bombing of Sotoan yurt simulatorCount me in!
>>584883712>Flight controller simulator>But you're on Aigaion
>>584882697I also got a lot of emergencies today, which makes the daily cap on gold blueprints even more frustrating. Why couldn't some of them have shown up on the past few days when I didn't get any? All those blueprints wasted.
>>584883712You'd have to give me tunnels and other funny environments to bombAlso open enemy comms so I can hear the lamentations of the enemy
>>584882398they ought to make a 5/Zero style sequel with what they've already had developed for 8 instead of further developing shit engine wise (besides optimization that is)
>>584883712I thought about this a bit myself, but the problem is flying is pretty much hands off, whereas trucking in a traffic and changing roads gives you enough things to keep your hands occupied.
>>584883843>Baxter what is best in life?>To crush the nomads, see their planes driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Sotoan!
>>584883201The "nothing" was in reference to then not showing your anything in the briefing, not that there's actually nothing. Also in higher difficulties the F/A-18E will destroy the transport by the time you're halfway to the Shadow furball.
>>584883960I was thinking this would probably be inevitable, unless they go back in time and do a WW2 esque Ace Combat game in strangereal like Sky Crawlers or maybe even a game that takes place years after AC3, but with remakes being the big thing for the past decade or so, I can see a remake of 4 or something.
>>584884608Or they could do Resident Evil Remake treatment by rebooting everything.
>>584884690Why? They have a pretty much open hand until 2090 even if they stick to straight up UGSF timeline shit.
>>584884690strangereal au called fuckedauthentic
>>584884690I'd only accept alternate timelines if we got the timelines to fight each otherI was pretty disappointed when EDF 6 only had us fight stuff from EDF 5 and not 4.1, it would've been amazing seeing all those old robots again
This is going to sound really retarded but - I heard a track in Assault that I can only assume is from an older game. It went>BUM BUM >bada dada dadadada>BUM BUM >bada dada dadadada>BUM BUM BUM >BUM BUM BUMAnd then there were some long string notesNo idea how else to describe it but if anyone knows what I'm talkin bout that'd be a huge help. In the meantime I'll go scrub through some old OSTs
>>584885404First Flight?
>>584885404https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgnZbSV7ChA
>>584884938The problem is if they go much further in the timeline then every plane has to have COFFIN, and a lot of people would be unhappy about that. They want a plane that looks like it does in reality, not like this. And that's only GR planes, if they bring in Neucom and have half the roster be fictional then it'll be even worse.
mcdonald douglass ea-18g growler
>>584885692Nothing in AC3 is actually real, they can just handwave it as the scenario that simon created differing from reality.
>>584885885Is the level 20 ability good? I assume it's good but everyone seems to have levelled Barricader instead because it pays off from the start instead of needing huge grind.
>>584885692>then every plane has to have COFFINNot necessarily, that can easily be retconned as a false presumption Simon makes for his simulation, a "worst case scenario" type thing where Nemo would always face advanced up-to-date aircraft. 3 being a simulation gives the writers a lot of outs. We can presume the state of the world is accurate but not everything has to be 1-to-1.
>>584885947no clue, i'm only up to lv17barricaders can suck a fat one tho
>half the lore is underpinned by people being forced to build weapons to destroy an incoming meteor>meanwhile nagase flies a spacecraft for 7 years to destroy another incoming meteor in deep space and returns home safely>mfw nobody talks about it
>>584885517>>584885551You guys are geniuses, thank you
>Jumping from 8 to Zero>mfw keep trying to do high-g turns on instinctAlso feels weird playing this without the PS2's progressive trigger presses or whatever. Everything snaps from 0 to 100
>>584886019If you told the world that a second, bigger Ulysses was coming, the superweapon race would get 1000% worse than it already isSotoa alone was putting out plenty of world ending shit, imagine if the rest of the world was helping fund it under the guise of "what if they screw it up"And I'm sure the Belkans would be salivating at hijacking yet another Osean peace machine to ensure more superweapons got made for future warsIt's better that Razgriz remain sworn to secrecy
>>584885983Race you to 20>>584885947ECM counters IEWS so no one can missile. Then when IEWS is about to run out you pop your ESM and get miniQAAMs while they only have normal missiles
>>584884541>Also in higher difficultiesHigher, like which exactly? Vet? Elite? Ace?
>>584886375>Race you to 20i give upi don't really feel like playing this video game more than absolutely necessary
>>584886258G-turns is a crutch and should be removed imo.
>>584885692ACX, AC8, ACAdvance and AC3 are already kinda mutually incompatible for new planes and coffin, they really can simply retcon things.
>Play hour or two of online per day this week>0 scrambles or emergency missionsThis is such a shitty system
I have such bad experiences with SODs from previous games that I didn't even try them in 8.
they better be already working on AC9
>>584886510Elite and Ace for sure. At least on my run they started hammering it and giving damage pings fairly quickly, and on Ace they respawn fast enough that it's a near constant shootdown gallery until they stop popping in.
>>584886879And then you get a bunch on the same day so the gold blueprints get wasted because of the cap. It's so fucking bad.
>>584884176Add vicious weather, interceptor aircraft, radar nets and day/ night altitude hazards
>>584886923They're really good on the megafloat and useless everywhere else.
I wonder if they'll do SP missions DLC, a lot of us seem to take it for granted but 7 was the only game in the series with DLC missions.
>>584885551Next battlepass will be 7 related. They would have to do it sooner rather than later.
>>584887171They're good in expo city
>>584881881Open world ace combat sandbox when?>Got to climb space elevators as a tunnel run to reveal the surrounding areas>land on various bases around the world to pick up quests to do>when your notoriety rises, increasingly difficult ace squadrons come after you>some nations have closed airspaces that unlock as the story progresses>dynamic weather system and day/night cycle>side missions like deliveries, scouting, escorts
>>584887171>>584887296They're really good against Land Battleships too.
>>584885692This is why I think Bamco will get cold feet about remaking 3 or getting anymore close to it and will just opt to do something else, like remake Air Combat and Ace 2 as one game.
>>584866607>>spend the whole game following a teammate as he calls out targetsthat's all it takes, just attack who I'm pointing out and they can't win the game. Especially with focused targetting. Sadly 90% of randoms don't get the nuanced difficult strategy of focusing on something.
>>584887341I don't know about an open world, but I'd like a Conquest mode like from PW (one that's deeper than a puddle, preferably)
>>584887341Hopefully never, that's not ace combat
>>584880923Attacker guns are so strong that it doesn't matter desu
>>584887213Did you forget about 6's Ace of Aces DLC or are we just not counting it for arbitrary reasons
What are the missiles not visible on radar?
>>584888160Its the special netcode missiles
>>584887939I did forget about it but even if I didn't I wouldn't count it for arbitrary reasons.
>>584887939Those were remixes of preexisting missions, so they only half count.If they were to announce DLC missions for 8 and then they turned out to just be the basegame missions but with more enemies and a bonus Aigaion and CFA then I'd be let down.
>>584888298AoA missions had enough nonsense thrown into them that they might as well have been their own things desu
>>584888298>random Aigaion and CFA show up in mission 8 for no reasonActually I might forgive them just for that
>>584836070Hi /aceg/I want to play Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation, should I get the Xbox 360 Xenia version or the recomp as in the OP?I played RDR1 on Xenia with no issues so it should be fine, but I read on /v/ that the recomp is better(?) despite being AI-assisted(?) or otherwise>AC6 is playable on PC via recomphttps://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY
>>584888446>one section of like 3 superweapons and 4 superplane bosses from the past in one mission as Rex hallucinates mad hard on ace ghost memoriesmite b cool
>>584888652Recomp worked well for me in June, I've heard it got easier to install
>>584888652The recomp is definitely better, cutscenes still don't work on Xenia last I heard. Recomp also has native 60fps and ultrawide if that's your thing.Keep in mind the GoD format download we have in our Mega doesn't work (or at least it didn't when I tried it). You'll need an ISO or the extracted game files from a disk image.
>>584887027>Elite and Ace for sure.No. On Elite i manage to down 3x Shadows just in first seconds by lucky spawn, and their deaths trigger dmg to transport. Their dmg, not enemy planes.Also i twice killed 5x Shadows before transport was down, and can't finish 6x since it's immortal. And transport survived enough to trigger ambush.
>>584843009Yes, greatly reduced by Crew Skill but the longer the match goes on and the more high-gs you pull the worse the pilot gets at handling them, even my aced F-14A had trouble keeping himself conscious if one too many MiG-23s got in dogfight range.
I am at sergeant rank in MP, should I get the Mirage? Also...just how freaking lethal is LAAM boats + ESM anyway?
>>584892105Mirage is decent if you have the spare Zoll. I wouldn't spend any gold blueprints on it though. Unless she's your planefu, but you wouldn't even have to ask that if she was, right?
>>584892105Not anymore you'd be better off saving for the SU-34. As for LAAM and ESM? Strong but LAAM are easily dodged by players.
>>584892105Very lethal if you aren't paying attention but survivable if you realize that if it's been 1.5s and the missile warning hasn't gone away. All in all, still worse than a TLS user with yaw parts.
remember to share your Scrambles and EmerSorties with the squadron!The party inviting menu is a bit obtuse, but what isnt
>>584892105LAAM is more about mopping up NPCs rather than players, I'm not sure ESM makes much of a difference at those rangesECM on the other hand will keep you nice and cozy in Warfare, snug bastards
Finished my work week and just beat Mission 8 this morning after several tries. Had to figure out that I needed to defend my allies as well as focusing on the bombers then it wasnt too bad besides all the low-flying crashingI feel very cucked that Tasha wouldnt kill anyone for me, but the second Coster needs it she instantly goes into murder mode
>aircraft only warfare map>enemy typhoon slinging laams from 10km>gets 3 stars>decide to blow him up, start approaching him>sends laams my way>flare them>sends more>maneuver to dodge them>he immedieately turns around and starts running before I'm even in range>decide to turn away and get back to killing npcs instead of wasting time chasing him>he gets back to flinging laamsWhat's the counter?I mean we won anyway thanks to having a Growler that allowed us to blow up all the npcs before his missles even reached them, but surely EW shouldn't be the answer to everything.
Amazing
>>584892693Did you manage to save Jackpot 9
>>584892105She's a good workhorse. Always bet on Dassault.
>>584892840I dont think so, she went to static
>>584892637>>584892456>>584892531Makes sense that it was mainly effective when the map was Fort Grays I guess where everything is an air target...though I guess there's probably also a huge skill gap if one side is all 3 star aces at one point while the other are mostly dead. Managed to outdogfight an F-16 at one point who bled all their energy and I frankly consider myself a noob at real dogfights...
>>584892831t. Baxter
>>584888652Recomp is easier and better. Beat 6 using it myself just a week ago.Outside of some minor visual glitches in the main menu it was fine.
>>584892915LAAMs are ridiculously good close range too desu, people undersell them because they assume long range missle means bad in close range.
>>584892105>MiragePerfectly serviceable, especially early on. UGBs make it a very good attacker. I'll echo >>584892432's sentiment otherwise.>LAAM + ESMAgainst NPCs, extremely. You can clear entire formations in seconds thanks to the increased reload rate. It won't really help against players, though, unless you're slinging LAAMs at an already-developed furball.
>>584893052Arent they kind of like HVAAs in terms of speed?
Finally beat 8Its really given me an appreciation for the Project Wingman guys not being Japanese because of DAMN japs cant write normal dialogue or a reasonable war story to save their livesAt least everything else is awesome
>>584892831I got that once and I fixed it by restarting the game. I think it was caused by my internet cutting out when I was trying to switch to multiplayer. Even when it came back the game said I was banned.
>>584893052Pretty sure I blew them up with standard missiles, they were sitting ducks which seemed shocking since I thought the Foxhound would get outturned hard by a Viper. Though the other kill I remember was just the classic teammate luring a tunnel visioned enemy into my view
>>584893192They're closer to QAAMs than to HVAAs.
>>584893336Just tried it, doesn't work, let's see if restarting my PC does something.
>the old rustbucket C-130 the resistance guys fly has the ISAF emblem on itgod I love this shit
>>584893810The shitbox A-6 in that mission does too.Even though it wasn't even in 4
Are online servers down?
>>584892693>I feel very cucked that Tasha wouldnt kill anyone for me, but the second Coster needs it she instantly goes into murder modeShe won't let anything happen to her older brother.>>584892915MiG-31 is believe it or not a turnfighter online. It's one of the slowest fighters online. So yeah not surprised able to clap a Viper.>>584893810I was half expecting Mobius 1 to make a cameo to clap some Sotoans.
>>584893931I didn't notice that, damn.ED need to hurry up with the module ASAP I NEED IT
>>584893949>MiG-31 is believe it or not a turnfighter online. It's one of the slowest fighters online.What the fuck??
>Kate said that she never let Rex be shooted down>literally one (or two?) missions later: with attack at will formation she stuck near ships 15km away from me while Tasha and Coster follow me to chase Gemma squadThey all had the same planes btw.Backster, where are you? I close to place Tasha at joker2 position.
>>584893935No, what makes you think they are?
trying to get some of the campaign Aces to spawn and complete the mission is fucking impossible Mission 05 for example
>>584894045Got kicked out of character creation because of a network error, now I'm stuck on 0% loading and it hasn't moved for the past 5 minutes.
>>584894123why are mission 5 and 15 such filters for people?
>>584894123Isn't the condition for that mission just not having LCACs die? That's what you're meant to be doing anyway.I've been slowly replaying the campaign on ace and I've had no trouble spawning aces up to mission 8 so far.
>>584894020Campaign and online stats are different but yeah with leveling and shit MiG-31 isn't that fast a plane. No idea what the online devs were smoking. If you are going pure LAAM the Tomcat is arguably a better investment though the QAAM make the MiG-31 more competitive.Don't believe me check the statshttps://ac8-database.pages.dev/aircraft/f14d/#onlinehttps://ac8-database.pages.dev/aircraft/m31b/#online
>>584893252I have to make time for PW, but I always thought the direction of 3 and 4's stories were pretty damn great, but yeah 8's can be pretty goofy, more so than 5 and maybe 6. I also dislike they randomly added the Press X to pay respects mechanic to the cutscenes and most of them are in first person, but otherwise it's fun for what it is.
>Mission 5>Rinky dink F-4E>Guns only>Despite how slow I was and only focusing targets, S rank with no damageI guess it's nice to know I'll never understand how people get filtered by thisAt least I got to hear a lot of Jackpot audio this time around, though mostly from 2 and 6
>>584894651In a year's time when they fix everything we'll look back on these days and laughHa ha ha haHa...
>>584894651>largest online mode of the series>the tallest person in bangladesh
>>584894651>the largest online mode of the seriesGotta be in terms of filesize, since they used higher quality models for the planes.
Is it just me or does Coster basically stop existing as a character after Theves
I WANT YOU IDIOTS TO UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF THIS SITUATION
>>584894275Have you tried restarting your game?
>>584894543Man, so that's the reason it seems I couldnt run away from a Barricader? That's dumb, I expected it to be as fast as a flying brick because thats what the Foxhound is
>>584894459Because the Ace (Su-25) spawns so far away that you can't get to him and also cover the ships>>584894304The target aircraft are too maneuverable (F-2s) for that point in the gameLiterally replaying it on Elite difficulty and they run rings around me in an F-35
>>584895002Yeah everything you think a plane should be turn it upside down for online.
NEXT THREAD IS #1167Also, do we really need to keep track of that?
>>584895023>Literally replaying it on Elite difficulty and they run rings around me in an F-35i think you genuinely are just bad at the gamemy first playthrough i had a mirage with a2g and had all the lcac survive
>>584894821ACI had eleven coop maps and four emergencies. And like a million planes.The only way AC8 is better is that it has five warfare maps while ACI only had three, and ACI's were all basically the same (they only had ships as NPC targets, so they all played identically since you can't have varied terrain on an ocean).I guess AC8 has scramble too except who gives a shit?
>>584894998Yes, the only thing that helped was scrolling down blindly and accepting the changes. Largest online in the series my ass.
how would you fix AC online?
>>584895278I get S ranks on most missions and I've beaten all previous AC games on Ace difficultyMission 05 is literally the only one I struggled with
I've yet to try MP. Is it worth engaging if I just want to shoot niggas and npcs or is it 150% turbosweats?
>>584895703Cost limit would be a good start. It is not fun to have noob phantoms as teammates or enemies. More enemies to assault or make it just a 4 man score competition between them. Warfare is pretty fun but needs the cost limit.
>>584896000warfare (pvpve) is faggots spamming ea36 9/10 times, assault (pve of two teams competing) is full of LAAM spamming boatsyou won't really have fun in either
>>584895703I'd kill itand focus on 9
>>584896000>pic>not the F104
>>584895703implement cost limits in every single modemore SPW limits, cut their capacity by half at leastfocus on pve instead of this retarded amalgam of pve forma two teams or add actually large mapsmore boss fights, perhaps raids even
Anyone got the aircraft cost tiers image?
>>584894569PW is pretty fantastic and finally adds an actual WSO character to the game unlike ACI also find the story far more compelling than 7 and 8, but 8 does a bit more to flesh out your Wingmen.Most notably PW has the best boss fights for a plane game, ever, by a country mile
>>584896000Just be prepared to go fast otherwise everyone will eat all the targets, and don't expect to win4 player would really do wonders for this game
>>584895703Have ACO be separate from any mainline games. It is a "living multiplayer" that crossovers with games as it is released.It has a dedicated team to get it working, so Project Aces can focus on singeplayer games.You can, however, boot up ACO through the singleplayer menu.Tier rank matches as an option, so new players can fight new players and old players won't disconnect when they see a new player on their team."Co-op" PVE missions, teams of eight fighting overwhelming odds. This also makes new players more palatable to old players.
>>584895703Four players instead of eight in coop.Make coop a single team. The winning team doesn't even get anything for winning (I've seen a lot of people upset because there's no pure coop mode except there fucking is, the game is just lying when it says the winners get a bonus, what the fuck is that?) so there's no reason not to.More maps, they're all reused from 7 so they can't be that much effort to make.A big special rebalance, that's already obvious. Probably delete jammers as a category entirely, there's no way to make them work well. ECM is cancer, ESM is going to be either worthless or too good.No blueprints. Plane specific blueprints can already be bought with zoll so get rid of them entirely and increase zoll costs to compensate. Having the only renewable source of gold blueprints being a randomly spawning mission with a daily cap is also really fucking bad. If you want to make levelling planes more grindy to compensate for that then whatever, fine, just get rid of the gold blueprints shit.Probably change abilities around somehow because some planes get good ones and some get bad ones and it can be pretty unfair. Not sure how to do that exactly though. If you can pick what you want everyone will just go for the best ones, but there needs to be some sort of choice to prevent situations like Flanker E being terrible.Probably needs a lot more but that's a start.
>>584896517I ought to play PW, I got it on sale a while back. I do appreciate making the WSO a character as well though I guess that makes it dependent on you flying at least a twin seater.The Prowler in 8 meanwhile takes the mute copilot thing to the funniest extreme>Tasha shares a plane with 3 people and doesn't acknowledge their existence once
>>584896797Those poor copilots in Mission 13....
>>584896797>The Prowler in 8 meanwhile takes the mute copilot thing to the funniest extreme>tfw baxter leaves 3 people to die after punching out in that one mission if you give him a prowler>kill count goes up to 6 if you also fly one
>>584896797Rex is canonically the first wso/rso that's not just an inflatable buddy
>>584895703The menu system needs a total rework for one. Even simple shit like making a party is a pain in the arse. It's fucking dumb you basically can't do anything while queueing too. There's literally no reason that I shouldn't be able to check my hangar or take pictures or whatever while waiting.
>>584896937I like to imagine they were all there with you when you bailed, they just never get acknowledged by Rex or Baxter and they're just out of frame at all times.>>584897083It's like a Santa Clause situation - the pilot dies, so his soul inhabits Rex and makes him into a protagonist
>>584896797Noob here. If Tasha flies the prowler will she deploy ECM and ESM herself or do I have to spam right on the dpad?
>>584897287>I like to imagine they were all there with you when you bailed, they just never get acknowledged by Rex or Baxter and they're just out of frame at all times.on the contrary, I like to think baxter and rex are pic rel looking at the charred corpses of all the EW officersi think the helmet colors somewhat match as well
>>584897291She will continuously use them as long as SP is toggled until she runs out, and she doesn't always keep formation with you either. So tap it on for her to activate then tap off or she'll just run out a third of the way into the mission
>Hold off on Ace S rank of Retaking of Theve II because I don't want to be stressed out again>Replay it>Manage to do it well enough for several minutes of downtime>Never sweating>Still didn't get the bugged Shadow somehowHuh. Game's good at getting you worked up with the framing I guess
>>584897397lmao
>>584897459Got it, thanks!
>>584895703Put in missions from previous games. Most missions from 5 and 8 would work with basically removing the story specific voicelines and, for example, fleet destruction would also be cool
I just Gripen SASM tunnel all f14d and Mig31 players. It is out of spite.
>>584889260>>584889642>>584893023Thanks buddies
>>584896797>Hey, Baxter.>I want you to fly the Prowler during our takeover of Cima Island.>It'll be great, trust me.
>>584897697Is it worth getting the SASM part for online or does it not make enough of a difference?
I want to see if there's a correlation of how people from different countries (but mostly from the west) consume and feel about media.It's basically a 3 minute watchhttps://youtu.be/EYQmgEydRko?si=zsIORqdOsdhGbXX1&t=564Do you find it emotional or cringe? Say your country of provenience + your verdict if you want
>>584897746Oh fuckWhat would be worse>everyone is injured but Baxter's the only one that gets the medical attention>only Baxter is injured but the rest of the crew forces him to fly the plane
>>584898054>Everyone's dead except Baxter, who has to pilot his barely conscious self while he's delusional and thinks the rest of his guys are alive
>>584897673Meant more missions Something like a rotating pool of X missions from various entries
Can somebody spoonfeed me the best set of settings for 3.Ples
>>584898229fuck that's so much worse
>>584897983Are you asking about our reaction to the mission, or our reaction to the vtuber's reaction?
>>584897983what's up with you retards so keen on bringing all your eceleb slop here?who gives a shit?
>>584897983>>584898435Reaction to the Vtuber reaction
>>584898510You should give a shit. Like it or not, these people may made the saga go mainstreamWe'll know if it's a good thing or not in the next years
>>584897983>vtuberAutomatically cringe, don't even need to watch it. Kill yourself.
>>584898734damn nigga i don't care about your parasocial delusioni owe nothing to some dumb slut online and i don't give a shit over some fabricated emotional reaction bullshitbuy an ad and fuck off to /vt/
>>584898819post war thunder stats
I only started playing Ace Combat because BurntPeanut played AC6.
>>584897983I did not watch it longer than a couple of seconds. Find it a total waste of my time as I'm not the target audience of that product. I suppose that leans closer to the "cringe" option, but I don't really know enough about vtubers or the people that follow them to really make any judgement.I'm a Sotoan.
>>584898935For some reason people don't want to understand the exposure the streamers can give to games. Wardog would be a huge example. I personally despise BurntPeanut but Wardog had success MOSTLY because of him
>>584897983Personally I thought flying him back to the carrier was more of a gut punch, considering how Kate was handled I was really taken off guard by that part (which was presumably the point)They did a pretty good job of pacing that whole sequence out, even though I was annoyed that Baxter took the shot at all, he was a reliable enough wingman (finally, after all these games) and a decent enough character that they kinda earned that momentAnd then you see Kate and it inadvertently becomes hilarious, when it rains it sure poursI might rewind to watch that part at least, I'm taking a break as it is, but vtubers are gay so I won't share my opinion on this actual video
>>584899147>>584898962>>584898819Thanks for your input
I grinded out getting to Chief Master Sargeant to find the options of F-15J, F/A-18F and F/A-18E all kinda stink. I didnt need another multi-role or a variant of a fighter im already working ondont have it in me to do another 25 missions to get to the next
>>584898560In that case I dont really care. The mission had strong emotional impact, and people react to that in all sorts of ways. It makes zero difference to me how they react
>>584899298It's crazy how much of a nothing rank that isI'm glad I skipped right over it, I'll get those planes once I've got nothing else to buy
>>584899107nigga who cares, talk about ace combat that doesn't include eceleb garbage.
>>584897861You should equip both SASM parts, it makes a difference. Probably the only part that does make a difference besides Guidance.
>>584899107I understand streamers and exposureBut vtubers are abhorrent garbage and don't belong here, not even the ones who stream ace combat
>>584899298The F/A-18E is quite strong though. It's not meta or anything, but SODs let you attack ground targets and QAAMs are QAAMs. SODs in particular deal quite a lot of damage if you know how to dive bomb with them.
I'm just glad that anime girl is having a good time, as I am glad that a lot of other people are tooIf anyone has a compilation of emotional reactions to online mode I could use a laugh though
Damn you weren't jokingStrike Aircrafts do really carry Warfare matches>Su-34 all-in in UGBL
>>584898391These are the settings I use, they work pretty well for me.
>>584900482I think UGBL + 4AGM is the better setup. You just don't need 40 UGBLs in a 5 minute match, you're more limited by their reload than their capacity. And 4AGMs, while not a great A2G weapon by themselves, can supplement your UGBL to snap off small groups of targets or some spread out targets while your UGBLs are reloading or while you're beelining it for friendlies at mach fuck because you've got some SASM spammer on your ass.
>>584862432Of all the features they brought back, it's too bad they left that one out. Mission 28 would've been perfect for that.
>>584900592Also I just realised I never changed my adapter to my new GPU even though I've had it for over a year now. Duckstation still ran just fine, guess it just asks your driver what adapter to use.
>>584900592Thanks I'll try them out
>>584899913vtuber enjoyer here, burntpeanut isn't a vtuber no matter what amazon's contempt-for-the-medium reward show says, please don't associate him with us
>>584901317He's a vtuber and so is the Annoying Orange.
>>584901317DD could've used more vtubers for his #WingsArmy
New thread?
>finished mission25>only when enemy disappear i got time to look around and realize there's resupply lineFuck.
>>584901651That mission never gave me any trouble until my S Rank Ace run. I died 4 times. The missile warnings just NEVER STOP.
>>584901972The Savians are really good at their job, I hit the score threshold really fast but those fuckers will keep you on your toes all the way to the end, even when the Shadows are flying aboutWhich make sense, given that their economy relies on those mercenaries
>>584901972I was out of missiles and bombs before Kate got down.If there no magically respawned missiles i prob need restart.
>>584902495There's a resupply line, but there are also magic respawning missilesI also relied on those for my first run, I had to wait for them to punch holes in the final TGT
>>584897983>Cringe at first because I thought it was a fake out, they wouldn't pull that right after what just happened on Rocky Island right>Turned to emotion when it became obvious that it was real>Cringed again at the actual fake out shortly after
How can the whole economy rely on mercenaries. Are there that many wars? Can they really pay for stuff like healthcare and infrastructure (through taxation) from mercenary contracts alone?
>>584897983Man that was a legit fucking breakdown, not even some overreaction for the camera.
Why is the altitude of enemy aircraft called out in ANGELS while the altitude of friendly aircraft is called out in CHERUBS. Cherubs are just baby angels, right? Is the implication that all your allies are little babies?
>>584881127>>584881461>>584881734I still can't believe they would just kill the main character before the show even ended.
>>584902972>Are there that many wars?It's fucked up to think that Usea might actually not be the worst place on Strangereal, since we know how many wars go on thereThe fuck is happening over in Wellow
>>584903308It'd be neat to have an Ace Combat spinoff game that reveals during the course of the various games there were wars nobody heard about and the average Strangereal citizen just has this constant thousand yard stare all the time.
>>584902972https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landgraviate_of_Hesse-Kassel
>>584903082yeah you can hear the snot lol
>>584902972Condottiere out of a broken up Erusea. Like how Shilage produced great fighter aces. And instead of heavy cavalry it's fighter bombers and aircraft carriers.
brot?
Tasha leaving a Yuke postcard on Baxter's grave in the credits sequence damn near killed me, too.>>584902819>Cringed again at the actual fake out shortly afterSeriously why the hell did they do that?
>>584902972>whole economy relies on mercenariessource?
I just assumed Cope's ghost went off to find Kate since Joker needed a fourth againThough the fact that Baxter might've seen Cope run off while he was dying is a bit tragic/hilarious
>>584903747Someone needs to make an AoE2 Strangereal mod or somethingMaybe Mount & Blade
I'll probably regret saying this because Paradox games are cancer, but HOI4 Strangereal mod.
>>584904035>Tasha leaving a Yuke postcard on Baxter's grave in the credits sequence damn near killed me, too.He did say he'd wanna receive a postcard at some point.
>>584904639They've been working on one for a while now, Project Ulysses I think
>>584904208There's a mercenary company fighting you in the Rocky Island missions and their radio chatter is all about how their home nation NEEDS the money from their work to stay afloat.
>>584904830This is the first I'm hearing this
>>584904776>taken down from Steam Workshop and basically dead due to modder drama
>>584904920How far into the game are you?
>>584905104don't be hard on him, they barely bring it up in game, it's easily missable
>>584904969That's unfortunate, but I'm not sure it'd be a good fit for Ace Combat in the endA lot of the best Ace Combat stuff comes down to the second, and that game measures stuff in hours at minimum (I think, its been a while)
>>584905104I'm on my fourth campaign run
>>584902675>There's a resupply lineYeah as i said i noticed it only when battle ended.
>>584904969There was a recent attempt at reviving it iirc https://old.reddit.com/r/ProjectUlysses/
>>584901317I have no idea who burntpeanut is buddy
>>584904969a tale old as time; if you thought artists malding over AI was loud, the modding troons are about to be insufferable now that everyone is jeet vibe modding.
I'm pretty sure they're legally obligated to mention over open comms that the Savian economy relies on mercenariesIt's dual purpose advertising, it convinces you that they must be good but also to take pity on their country because shit must really be fucked
>>584905773>"I'm a Savian mercenary. I won't leave until I make a sale."
Would the Savians have accepted a contract from Ustio when they were getting buttfucked by Belka?
>>584899107people with brains don't want exposure because streamers bring their dogshit opinions and knuckle dragging fanbase and then go back to whatever shit they have 10 billion hours in again after they rape your favorite series into being a homogenized blob because suits think it prints money.
>>584905998Would Ustio have had enough money to pay for more mercenaries in the first place? It seemed like they were squeezing pennies for a while
>>584905104Finished the campaign 6 times. All medals + aces + cheevos
>>584902972Didn't the Swiss rely so hard on mercenary work that an unacceptable number of working-age men left the country, and so they had to outlaw it?
>>584905998If Ustio could've afforded a real mercenary army they wouldn't have made a deal with the Devil.I mean come on, 6th Air Division, 66th Airforce unit is a little bit on the nose.
>>584905184I'm not 'being hard' on anyone, I was just asking.>>584905315Like the other guy said, you can miss it if you're not paying attention to the radio chatter. They primarily mention it around the start of RI 1.>>584905773It's more to establish their political neutrality and excuse themselves so they can leave peacefully when their contract is over, which they mention im the radio chatter is at sundown on the day of RI 2.
>>584898510they're lonely
>Completely mince the first set of enemies with MGP on Mission 4 in the initial joust>AWACS actually has a line about how quick that wasNeat
>>584906914Anon, are you genuinely autistic? He was doing a bit. Nobody missed that line, it's said 300 times in each mission where Savian mercenaries appear.
>he didn't have a squadron of 2 x F/A-18Es and 2 x F/A-18Fs for Mission 30
>>584907116>save ships in mission 5>Kate thanked you for keeping her promise
>>584907965>>584907965>>584907965
>>584907605Yes.
