>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Guilds<Daybreak Company> NA RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj<Fun Havers> NA PvEhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5wThread Theme https://youtu.be/YnyaNobLoXE?is=_bzxycBS6Fzrd3cQ>Previous Thread >>584817904
what bullshit is this?
Alex wouldn't have allowed so much blatant cheating.
could alex have won? he's a beast in pvp.
>>584840696when are we getting that alex mmo or am I just going it alone?
>>584840805Especially against hunters
haste reduces gcd btw anyone saying otherwise is a retard using outdated info and mad they arent playing the superior race
>>584840649can you see why this isnt that good or are you retarded
So skelf will be best warrior right
>>5848408392 more weeks
>>584840805He only didn't participate because he wanted to leave them a chance. It's not as fun as you'd except when you're the best.It gets... lonely at the top..
>>584840649>an arcane missileuse case? just put on the wizard oil
>>584840895No because 2% crit is better than 3% haste
>>584840649>>584840882Why is this bad?
So what classes won the duels and what classes lost?
>>584840895
is this a good video?
Either add Goblins or get Aggrend to personally tell me they're never coming so I can convince my friends to roll Alliance and not waste my time.
>>584841094marathon it for us and let us know
>>584841010 It 3 > 2
>>584841231wrong>>584841060
when will elemental shamans get spell power or spell crit totems >inb4 that's too powerful when paladins literally get a "increase all stats by 10% buff"
>>584841094Well I haven't seen it but it's obviously clickbait. The most shilled game this year is GTA 6, albeit well deserved.
I'm still going priest and i'm not even watching this shit ass tournament
we're all watching the final tomorrow
>>584841137Warcraft goblins look nothing like this though.
>>584841094>57 minutes of some faggot cryingholy fuckeven if he is right no way I am watching this slop
>>584841317Hopefully never because classes with strong buffs must be weaker than the classes they buff. It's why enhancement shaman sucks cock.
>>584841094God I hate the pogface in thumbnails
>Champion of the light went from 100% int to spell power to 60% int to spell power to now barely 30% int to spell powerThis is now the ideal ret paladin.
>>584841654Put on the dress, pink sissy
>>584841654but vengeance has the glowie hands and cool sound effect
>>584841654>holy shock but no DF?
>>584841654that or this
aggrend does the ground pound like bowser from smash bros when anyone asks why he's altering things in the game
>>584841137i dont want you in my faction you anime retard
Does Judgement of Light/Wisdom just have their extended duration from the talent baseline now?
>>584841818
>>58484165430% is same as shaman. deserved.
>>584841435I don't fucking care if the picture looks different from the in-game. Buy some rope.>>584841883"Your" faction is filled with pretty Elves. You are the anime faction.
https://youtube.com/shorts/0T09m8WGq1khow high was he?
>>584841795>STILL putting points into goofy ass healing talents instead of divine favor for shock critswhat did anon mean by this?and you can't say it's pvp because you don't have repentance, pursuit of justice or eye for an eye
>>584841060This means literally nothing when blizzard can just decide to rebalance everything at any time.They have been shown that they will take quick action if there's too much of an inbalance (In the forever beta so far that is).Just pick whatever you like the most, if you're being a meta slave it's highly likely that whatever you pick will already be nerfed to the ground like two months later.
>>584842076what is he doing with his tongue?
>>584841030paladins destroying and super salty because even tho they have a lot of 6-0-0 wins only top 4 (decided my bracket allocation RNG) getting to participate tomorrow (and guaranteed $5.5k)
>>584840904>>584841193you mad im going and playing the superior race with gcd reduction that has been tested and confirmed in multiple class discords
>>584842117That's wrong though, any 6-0 gets to either directly qualify or get to tiebreakers (if there are more than 4 6-0s of that class).Only losers that go 5-1 are subject to the buchholz system and they don't deserve any better.
>>584842328except that some has to face shit matchups and others doesn't
>>584842410Such is life.
>>584842328if that's the case then good, not sure whats the point of mmr then at all if all decided by number of wins-losses-ties, unless they use it for matchmaking after first bracket
>>584842470It's for cases like this:6-06-05-1 78BH5-1 69BH5-1 69BHHere the 6-0s would qualify directly, then the buchholz would apply to the 5-1s, the 78BH would also qualify and there would be a tiebreak between the 69ers.
>>584840980You can use both, retard
>>584842208still 0 proof huh
>>584842208It grants you 1 extra gcd every minute, assuming you're using an ability every 1.5 seconds.
>>584842071KYS shitskin. You're not getting retail races.
>>584838623>>584838668i was thinking of the auction hall sorry, is that a good way?>>584838771i am new to world of warcraft
>https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x8q6ta/hydra_points_out_tournament_admins_ignoring/
>>584842850>people are cheating in the tournament that can net them 100kWOOOOOOAH NO WAY
>>584842689gotcha thx, whats with all the bitching about it then ive seen in the clips
>>584842820you can get them from the AH but day 1 rush there wont be any so thats why if you go hard you need to make it yourself, if you're hours late you can easily buy one from the AH
>>584843058People are mad their favourite streamer who went 5-1 didn't get to day 2 because of it.
>>584842850>streamers will cheat and eat each other if it means they will get aheadno way dude damn that's crazy
>>584842817Goblins have been in the franchise longer than Sky Elves, Tauren, and Night Elves. Cope and seethe, bitch.>KYS shitskinI'm White.
>>584843183ah well i am not playing on day 1 anyway so that is fine then, thank you
>>584842974more like 40k
>>584842724oh nice, just checked. that's busted>retardrude!
>>584843409>>584842724>>584840649It's nice that Blizzard is doing the smart thing and letting you double up on stuff like this instead of making them mutually exclusive.
>>584843396Think it's like 55k, you get 50k for first place and 5k for first of your class.Although depending where you live taxes will probably reduce it down to well under 40k after all.
>>584843518I love the amount of consumes and buffs you can have on you in classic.
>>584842815and how is this not better than crit hit% or crit damage?
>>584843938CUTE!!!!
>>584841094I watched it at work. The guy has the most pessimistic, miserable take on literally anything about the game. You guys would love it.
Blizzard: We're going to have a zero tolerance policy for gold buyersBlizzard sponsored duel tournament: Every single contestant bought massive amounts of gold and there's even video evidence of streamers buying gold, bragging about it and snitching on each other
>>584843938>when you are the green pov
>>584844227crit damage is probably the weakest racial. If we assume you will have like 30% crit at most, a 2% crit damage increase will only result in 0.6% more damage.And at the beginning you will probably only have like 10% crit, so it will be like a 0.2% dmg increase.To be really impactful It'd need to be at least like 10% more crit damage, 2% crit damage is just laughably bad.
>>584844404
>>5848442272% crit damage is terrible compared to 2% chance to crit, unless we're actually hitting >50% in forever.They will probably need to buff it
What's the point of Twist of Light in Forever?
>>584844602This needs a bunch of posters advertising real money tournaments
>>584844514This was explained to them yesterday and the blizzjeet shills will not accept it lolIt's utterly fucking trash and embarrassing that they homogenized it between tauren and dwarvesIt's insulting, not in any single way in the spirit of vanilla or classic + and a lazy creatively bankrupt retail cop outPeople were begging for a better combat pvp racial to go along with stoneform to give them a reason to play dwarves and esepcially dwarven shaman and blizzard once again completely shit the bed with their solution Miserable, spiteful and out of touch company
>>584845064The illusion of a complicated rotation
>>584845140Blizzjeets only know how to much retail, this retail- is all anyone can hope for.Streamers will play for about 3-4 months and then move on and the game will ACK
>>584845293lil gup thinks hes Michael Jordan
>>584845293>me counting down seconds until mom calls me at 6PM to get fresh tendies from the kitchen
>>584844227Name a single class that uses an ability every 1.5 seconds as part of it's normal rotation.
>>584845436where's the tobey mcguire marrying his jewish ex-wife off to a nigger reaction meme, gup bitch
>>584845436>lil gup
^lil gup
>>584845668all the classes skelves can be will be better with haste, you'll never deal with bad luck streaks or anomalies, you'll still get wombo combo booms just slightly less than everyone else. it took venruki 90mins to set up the new mage combo on someone that just let him cast on them, that entire time his castbar & gcd would have been hasted
>>5848405831k hp potis that normal at 30 and i've never noticed?
>>584845969new potions in forever, heals like triple the normal pot but then you get a dot that damages you for 75% of the heal over time or someshit like that
Wtf is this shit
>>584846070Not in Forever, thats what
>>584846043that's pretty cool. gimmie this but for damage/increased damage taken
>>584846070Rexxar
>>584846070rexxar and rexxher
It's funny to see how touchy people are about any criticism of this game. This is going to be dumpstered just like halo infinite was.
>>584846070Hufferbros, we made it
>>584846070whats that lil choo choo?
>>584845293im not the only one who looks down at their action bars like this?
>>584841924why would anybody pay for the guide? cant you just download it from someone else?
new patch dropped, warrior and paladin no longer S
>>584846087Are you people really this fucking delusional
>>584846415wowsims is up now and i trust that morebut it's not finished yet
>>5848458710.044 is faster than human reaction time. The haste is really only utilized by auto attacking classes.
>2 more weeks
>>584846415>Hunter but it benefits from wind fury and scales now
>>584846415people complain nonstop about shaman but rogue pve is a joke
>>584846415link the website?
>>584846719https://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list
>>584846415Shamanbros...
>>584846684it's so ass and everytime i say "rogue needs changes for pve" around people i konw they say "rogue is fine it's supposed to be auto attack based"nevermind how fucking BORING that is.
>>584846417>Play on a brand new account>Enjoy the game>Chargeback when they add some gay mtx shitIt's just that easy
>>584846415now with TPS
this is it. i wasted my world drop luck on the betafuck
>>584846415>>584846739https://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list/sims/9d4f6b3d-73af-4693-ae15-ea31472ba47dAffliction sim still uses shadowbolt over Wrackhttps://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list/sims/2b7adc22-5543-47b9-96ad-c5e1dd2965c3Destruction sim also never casts Incineratehttps://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list/sims/bf54a25c-220f-4640-90ec-5c166c3599e2Demonology sim never casts Soulfire during decimate uptimeWhy are you still posting this slop?
>>584846895goated for hpals
>>584846341all you have to do is say "that's stealing" and everybody will start clutching their pearls and buy it so they'll have the moral high ground
real sims that isnt made by ai slop from people that made most popular classic-mop sims before ai boomhttps://www.wowsims.com/forever/
>>584846916wrack is unusably badshadow bolt and incinerate is probably kind of similaryou can write your own rotation if you want
>>584846916blame warlocks for not fixing it, too busy doing retard sims with atiesh
>>584846415https://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list/sims/f6585585-3c5d-4109-9e02-eadc7c70b095Arcane sim only casts Arcane Wrath twice
>>584847062nah. If whatever the fuck AI is doing isnt stealing, pirating sure as shit isnt
I want my hit chance back for tauren...
>>584846874>bear sim with crowd pummeler bug abuseinto the trash it goes
>>584846916wrack is a dead talent unless blizz buffs it
>>584847202?
>tfw want to roll shaman but Aggrend has a burning hatred for usI will NOT put on the dress, I will not be humiliated like your fav class
>>584843938Does Whitemane have a frog t shirt on under?
>>584841094I didn't watch the whole thing since a lot of it is crying about the obvious financial relationship between streamers and blizzard. it points out the glaring flaws with forever that are pretty obvious to anyone who isn't a stock blizzdrone. 4/10
>>584842089they said they dont want to touch racials post launch
>>584846808Its okay. People will use that dev quote about 5% and rogue being number one DPS to taint the balance of your class forever.
>>584847434Most shaman mail is a dress even if you're dps.
so, how much this shit got delayed?
>>584845824yung blud thot he was cooking with this one type shit
>>584847434Literally why, its not even fun to play, Survival, all Rogues, Paladins and Warriors are more fun to play than Shamans, same goes for the caster side
>>584847772Not enough. Needs more time in the oven. Your level 1 - 60 experience will be a paid beta test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm5RkbTFKck
>>584841094
>>584847434Shaman looks goated regardless of gear, same as paladin looks like a sissy faggot with any gear.
I'm not watching the tourney but it's an automatic clown fiesta thanks to allowing shit like the Spider Trinket.
i didn't buy the beta. how do the professions feel? i've got a friend i'm going to force to play with me (he's never played wow before). he's going warlock i'm going woyer. i'm usually of the "double gathering and then respec at 60" sort of gamer but have they actually reworked professions to the point where you can/should level them alongside your character? should i have him go tailoring/ench or something?+ is engineering still the most fun?
>>584848178As a warrior engineering will always be required.
I don't really see how they can follow through with the goal of making rogue top single target dps without significantly impacting rogue's pvp performance, which will inevitably lead to calls to nerf the class again.
>>584848505Hunterchads will always end up outscaling Rogues.
>>584848505they just have to bury whatever makes rogues top dps in combat, then it will never be good for pvp
>>584847886Shaman has the best class aesthetics and flavor
anyone else just feel like none of the classes sound fun to play?
>>584847772I expect 1 or 2 classes to get a fucking essay's worth of changes like we saw on the 15th. basically all last second changes.Then everything else will happen live after people are already maxxing out and underperforming
You could be making the most well researched, well articulated point in your video but if its 70 hours long and you are making the youtuber face I shan't not be watching.
>>584848584that's warlock. you get to sacrifice players to summon giant demons cmon
>>584848178>make the warrior go tailor/ench while playing a warlock
>>584848736Im having fun with druid
anyone going horde on the rp server? is horde side of rp going to be dead?
>>584848856>warlock misses out on the majority of crafts which are now bop
they should put a basketball court in orgrimmar
>>584848952what spec are you playing? I'm at a toss up between mage, warrior, and feral.
>>584846415are there simulations for hps?
>>584847886Resto is pretty fun.
>>584849039Feral, I've thought about trying Balance when the game launches, but wrath spam sounds pretty boring
>>584849045no
>>584848584Shaman has amazing Aesthetics until you stop playing and Orc or a Tauren. Trolls and Dwarves should have different Totems and Spirit forms. Heck I'd give the class the Priest treatment and give every race a unique ability like letting Dwarf shamans throw Hammers, Trolls get a Stasis trap from WC3 Witch Doctor, Tauren get Ethereal from WC3 Spirit Walker as a pseudo bubble, and Orcs get some lightning nonsense since all their lore abilities got translated.
>>584848505I don't see how they buff all the healers and ranged classes dps and cc, without everyone playing a rogue and warrior complaining at release. Once you're out of stealth if you give them as a single break from cc you're getting shut down immediately. Warrior is even worse, you don't stand a chance at all. Especially with the rage changes. It takes so much time get get rage to even use your abilities. Even shaman and paladin are fucked, although to a lesser extent.Balancing around wclog meta is a mistake. It's going to make being out in the world a miserable experience.
>>584849346I thought trolls have different looking totems, like in retail?
>>584845668what class isn't doing something every gcd?>>584846520>reactionwho said anything about reactions? the game has a spell queue and built in authotkey now. checkmate atheists
>>584848178they added a lot of new recipes, both to the trainers and as dropsyou can get full greens (minus the usual hat and shoulders) by 10, and you need to engage with them to make the camp buffs
>>584848298Alchemy may be on par or close now with their thrown bombs. This is just one low level example I found.
>>584849150Balance is way more fun when you consistently have at least one other party member, because at that point, you become a combat manager rather than a fighter. You get to zoom out your camera and start moonfiring the next target to your warrior bud, toss a Rejuv, Entangling Roots a runner, maybe toss an invite at some other solo player to see if they want to join, etc. You can do this as Resto talents, too, obviously, but it turns into the more autist-brain rewarding gameplay multi-cycling that Warlock is great for, but with another player instead of a Voidwalker/Succ.
>>584849489There isn't a single class that uses a different ability every gcd, do you even play the game? A single spell that casts or channels longer than 1.5 seconds and you already lost the value of the benefit. You always waiting on resources, cast time, or cooldowns.
>>584849045>https://youtu.be/-VcIhjYc5Ro?t=510
>>584849708Saw people saying Dwarves can just tank the downsides of some of the high level alchemy stuff with Stoneform which is funny.
>>584849708You can buy anything else of value alchemy creates from the auction house.
BLIZZARD!!!GIVE ME OGRES!!!AND MY LIFE IS YOUR'S!!!
>>584849708>not BoP>doesn't require alchemy to usesoooo why shouldn't you just craft these on your alchemist alt while your main is an engineer? Engineer is kind of a cursed profession where it's either gigabis or terrrible
>>584849482all of the horde used the same totem until wrath
>>584850034
erm... bros? what is this??
>>584850067Don't orcs have their retail looking totems in Forever?
>>584850140are you poor?
>>584845274thats fine, i only wanted to play for a few months anyway. I know these karens and soicuck retards aren't capable of maintaining WoWFail long-term, they've proven their incompetence 1000x over.
holy pally getting mogged by spriest
>>584850129waitso they DO have concept art for female ogres
>>584850140thats something from burning-crusade classic i think? to boost someone up to the level required to enter Burning Steppes.You larping, memeing or genuinely new to wow?
>Kul Tiras gets added to forever>Forever Kul Tirans are SKINNY humansit'd be so kino
>>584850147they're still using the tauren totems last I checked
>>584850140they aren't adding level boosts. they're just adding some potions to the ingame shop.
>>584850140China. They have all sorts of microtransaction slop on their versions of WoW.
>know i'm going to be busy as fuck early november>trying to get as much work done now as possible*coughs blood* I don't know if i'm going to make it, bros..
poast the lewd whitemane slops
>>584850823
>>584850469that would be amazing. imagine the druid forms. lanky as fuck bearcats
I thought you guys said warrior is bad?
>>584850949>streamer getting multiple pocket heals>wow guys warrior is so good
>>584850910HNNNNNNG love a comfy slobberer
>>584850949it was bad and then it was buffed multiple times
>>584847772Shaman, Warlock and Druid are absolutely not ready for prime time so expect to be a second class citizen for majority of the first month at the least
Doomjeets won
Are paid mods a litmus test like with winrar where only the dumb actually pay for it and other people just private it through a simple Google search or press no?
You ever /who your name and get back like 5 results
>>584850949using a random battleground screenshot with the poster boy of reddit toxic positivityjust what we needed
Why does it feel like the hype is dying bros Is 4ever DoA?
>>584851460I'd be positive too if I were like 40 years old and still haven't gone bald
>>584851478>Level cap increased over 2 weeks ago>Beta required premium pre-orderLiterally nothing to do until the stress test so plebs like me can get access.
>he didn't buy into beta, play it, then refundlmao
>>584851478My hype actually increases as we get closer to launchI am what all doomjeets fear
>>584851478Tournament is a wash. It was already a joke. Now you have advertising paid mods, biased ruling after they sacrificed so much to make this level 30 Tournament as fair as possible.
>>584850823>>584850910>>584851019
>>584851753You guys farmed some major izzat with this move
>>584851838sorry, i don't speak brown third worldese. can you translate?
>>584851838The izzat move would be defending the huge cooperation.
>>584851915I pay for the things that I use and I dont ask for refunds afterwards like a turd covered jeet
Does alchemist now have generally the same stat buffs as a tailor+enchanter? I like finding herbs and fishing mats for potions.
>>584851992>paying for HD retail mounts and transmogs>using HD retail mounts and transmogsmiss me with that
>>584851992>he played the $30 reskinned racelmao
Ooooohh you touch my tra-la-la, /wowfg/…My ding ding dong!
>>584852063The money that they raise from the beta will determine how much resources they throw at development moving forward. If you plan to play the game you shouldn't be asking for refunds. but I guess the spiritually brown cant comprehend this.
>>584851992>using blizzard's refund policy and telling them you regret purchasing their game makes you a turn covered jeetyou're brown
>>584852206and im making a statement, by punishing them for making HD slop thats against classic, i want them to have to cut these shitty devs
>The money that they raise from the beta will determine how much resources they throw at development moving forwardnot falling for this, (you) need to try harder
>>584852275>im brown because I think you should support the things that you like>youre white because you think you should ask for refunds for things that you used and enjoyed
>>584850469as long as the females are made thicc
>>584850910Tirisfal doesn't look that nice
>>584852374oh, you're a retail player now i get it
Refunding is cool because it hurts them more than just not buying >>584851820This tournament felt so hollow. Not much hype at all. I was surprised to learn this got the blizzard support it did with their whole private arena because this feels so amateur. It honestly kind of drove home how hollow the game has gotten. A bunch of streamers on their own custom pvp land that’s just a featureless dust bowl. I get that esports and wow are both dying but damn. No real stories at all. Who even cares anymore. This is their big tournament to advertise the game
>>584851478There's nothing to do anymore
is 1% attack speed upgrade better than 24 attack power
Blizzard is loading up wow forever with mountains and mountains of retail faggot shitThe only way WoW can regain some of it's former glory is if the players decide to stop giving Nu-Blizzard money and hope that jeeta bitch lays off the entire studio and starts selling off the franchises and someone not driven by faggot leftist identity politics decides to buy itIf you give money to blizzard you are funding retail wow, if you give money to blizzard you are justifying the faggot skyborne shit, if you give money to blizzard you are subsidizing the lifestyle of faggot furry pedophiles working at blizzard that take joy in ruining the franchise and turning it into something unrecognizable, if you give money to blizzard you are saying it's ok to gender swap quest npc's and ruining quests with cancerous leftist commie political pandering, if you give blizzard money you are continuing the botting/gold selling mafias blizzard refuses to deal with etc etc
>>584852632The fact the prize pool started at $50,000 suggest that they require approval from blizzard to begin with as it exceeds the community license limit.
>>584852437and scarlet crusade members don't look like the spanish inquisition.
>>584852782ok
mage is tied for least popular despite being in a great spotforever was made for me..
>>584852782Oh ok.>buys sub for a year
Add boneless Forsaken
>>584851957dass it mayne... whitemayne
>>584853131my bull in the back
>>584853089add fleshless forsaken
>>584852782You have lost the cultural war.now do us a favour and kill yourself
>>584853131fuuuuuuuuuuuck give me a manewife
>raid of horde just fucking shit up in all of the lvling areasWhat the hell is going on now? Did Asmon pissed off the horde somehow?
>>584853249i already play as this
>>584853035People mostly made mages in vanilla to aoe farm.
>>584852782Anon I'm already subbed and bought the collectors edition, you don't have to convince me.
Whys the sexiest woman in the history of WoW locked up in a lvl 40 dungeon
>>584853408yep, and they equated aoe farming with blizzard spam. the other (more fun) aoe farming is untouchedI also get a cute little rat familiar following me around
>>584853350Alliance has been doing the same thing. There is nothing better to do than run around ganking people on a level locked beta. Horde probably got a boost in players doing it now that the tournament has started. No more practicing duels outside org or farming dungeons for bis gear, may as well kill some alliance kids now.
Sally hanging out with the Houndmaster's new dogs
>>584853449Shes also in the comic
so how often is the balance going to change after launch?
blizzjeets seething and spamming their slop
>>584853408>>584853535They just nerfed aoe farming even more. The change to cone of cold is horrible for aoe farms because you don't want 4 random mobs getting slowed more than the others. Makes it harder to keep the mobs packed together.
>>584853274>>584853393>>584853449>>584853602>>584853729HUHNNNNNNNGGGGGGFFFF>>584853723YOU JUST KNOW (dog+master quintouple team)
>>584853741release is beta 2.0
>>584850140>>584850204>plebs don't know what debugging items are
>>584853723Cute. Although his dogs were bloodhounds. Which i know changes are bad but they could import these guys back into classic+ surely the hyenas look outta place.
>>584850949>he still lostgrim
with megaservers is all guild recruitment shit going to be discord?
>>584853741every week
>>584854006How am I supposed to afford to respec when they change all of my talents?
>>584854003no. there are always retards recruiting by spamming in chat
i wont reveal which competitor i am but i am going to drop a massive niggerbomb on the main broadcast tomorrow, look forward to it
>>584854003Has been for over a decade, but you can get a shitter dadguild in trade chat too. Just stay in your lane.
>>584853987It is kinda shocking there was no normal dog model in vanilla
>>584854142https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmOjOCK6Dnw
>>584854142You won't do it, faggot.
>>584854172That's cute
>>584853987I like the hyena dogs, but the bloodhounds work too. cata was the last time the new models/art actually felt like warcraft more often than not imo.
do you guys think the legacy system is good?imo it fucking sucks. want to rep farm something? go spend gold and respec. want to level a profession? yep go respec.
Gimme hearthstone timeline with a Galakrond raid in Dragonblight so Arthas never has to get defeated.
Post more whitemane
>>584854283I thihnk it's only an issue in the beta because people got a bunch of points for free. Very few of the upgrades actually matter after you hit 60 and the ones that do you'll get by maxing a main and an alt.
>>584854283they should just remove the ability to respec legacy talents so the minmax whining stops and you're forced to enjooooy at gunpoint
>all the other Druids memed on soda as washed up >only Druid to 6-0>against the worst match ups>while his gf cheers him on Winning at life and this tourney.
>>584854283Oh no I'll have to pay 1 gold to respec one time when I go to level my professions!
>>584854283It's just okay and inoffensive. Perfect way to give incentive to casuals to make and play alts and do random meaningless shit.
>>584841094lmao @ the blatant shill replies to this.yea surprisingly this guy seems like the only ""creator"" articulate enough to warrant publishing a video. Great points throughout that are refreshing to hear in this utterly astroturfed slopfiesta + a physiognomy analysis early in the vid
>>584854073wow token
Wtf was his problem
>>584854283twinks are going to dominate casuals even harder than ever, and it will probably sour a lot of totally new players once forever launches on consoles
>>584853741Basically whenever Aggrend doesn’t win a duel he’s going to nerf that class and buff paladin
how does itemization work for paladin?do i want spell damage over strength?
>>584854308cute childmane. imagine raising her and watching her grow up within the Monastery. imagine being one of her early male confidants
>>584854550lmao @ this fag that got raped for 57 minutes straight
>>584854283im very happy with it as a fisherman
why is there so much whitemane posting in this general
>>584851478Here you go
>>584854678it's one guy
>>584854559lol nothing about twinks is going to change. a 19 twink is going to be just as destructive vs a regular low level regardless of having 5 extra talent points or not.
>>584854678there should be more
>>584854678She's the mascot
spamming pornsick slop doesn't change the fact the game is pure fucking garbage lol
>>584854624>do i want +5 damage on all ny spells or ~+1 dmg to my white hitsYou tell me pal
>>584854678The mascot of WoW classic
>>584854787better than stock tranilla or poorfag pservers at least
>>584854787ty for your cumtribution and being here for us in these trying times for a garbage game you also enjoy with us
>>584854559>>584854283They need to remove Talented, it breaks the game in a way the other legacy perks don't and will ruin world PvP, the thing they really want to matter.
remember cia niggers work for blizzard
>>584854798sis...spells have spellpower coefficients..
>>584854308
>>584854645brown-skinned man unable to listen to youtube essays at 2x in the bgL + brown + broke
>>584854896>forever better than pservers >gloating about paying blizzard money in 2026
>>584854903thank god there are lakes to burn to generate images like this
>>584854905nobody is getting enough (or any) points in talented for it to matter for the first few monthsafterwards it will be cancer for newcomers trying to wpvp tho yeah. but you'd be behind anyway
best pvp race for hunter now? is it human?
>>584854624>>584854798>>584854959i believe that spellpower is marginally better than strength but it's almost the same. source:i read some thing that sounded convincing and i choose to believe it. 10 spellpower is basically 10 strength, and it doesn't matter if you're prot or ret.
He's right you know
best part of todays tournament was woundman losing to an ele shaman
one more pornsick avatarfaggomg spam post and the game will be worth playing, just you wait and see lol
>>584855008Yes, that is correct, thank you
>>584854905It's basically impossible to get enough talent points to reach Talented at launch until you hit 60. It's going to be something only alts will use and by that point there is already 60s running around ruining low level pvp regardless.
>>584854787>>584855164imagine just hanging around this thread talking to nobody when you Definitely Totally Arent Going To Play This Game
>>584855149I can hear reckful laughing from hell
>>584854937obliviously, the game is so gay + troonified + terrible & questionable game design decisions that there's no other logical or possible explanation
>>584855220seething circumcised cia nigger lol
>>584854473>Very few of the upgrades actually matter after you hit 60Lol the whole resourcefulness tab is aimed at level 60 characters.If you want to use professions you will be switching between these 2 tabs every raid night.
>>584851992you payed to temporarily work on the blizzards QA team like a good goy
I'm going to regret my choice no matter what class I ultimately pick and it will probably not be decided until launch day
>>584855354you going horde or alliance this time?
everyones still gonna roll shaman to run in dog form though
>>584855434its wow forever sweetie just play all of them
>>584855447you will never get your foreskin backa rabbi ate it with a nicely aged arak
>>584855518my champion rises....
>>584855894you could gen like a whole comic of these, kino potential
You WILL follow the arrow
>>584855894Anybody know if the scarlet enclave had more cute priestesses?
Is this a video game general or the new rule 34 ai slop dumpster
i am going to play an undead and my gf is going to play a stinky gross trolldo you meet up at literal level 1 or wait until you're like 10 or so and just go to the barrens together?
>>584855869thanks for staying in the thread anon, I was worried you would pop off with just a couple posts and leave
Is this a video game general or the new complaining and being off topic general
>>584856063meet up later
>>584854903
>Champion of the Light was 100% of your intellect>then it was 60%>now it's 30%why the fuck would you put any more points into Ret after grabbing Repentance
This is the scarlet crusade general
Don't worry I collect all your slop spam and run it through another AI generator to make it a lot less terrible and actually visually pleasing
Which streamer is the BIGGEST sissy cuck? Let’s settle this once and for all…I’m thinking payo personally, he just has that aura
If we're gonna do sloppa then gimmie a blue skelf in (just) a scarlet crusade tabard
>>584856462>elves in my scarlet crusade Heretical
>wow forever>no risks like a 3rd faction of defais, scarlet crusade, syndicate, bloodsail, dark iron, or venture co i'm sleepin
>>584856326prove it
>>584856494Its ok she wears a chapeau like whitemane that hides her ears
>>584856058What about cute monks
im rolling RP!
How does the new find treasure work in groups?
>>584856524Needs her signature eyeliner
I’m at a bigger loss than ever on what to main. I straight up am not looking forward to release because i can’t make up my mindWarlockBalance DruidMaybe mage?Hunter?Prot pala/shockadin?
is it really going to be unchanged mc again?
>>584846415How is demonology the highest dps warlock spec? Isn't destro specifically tuned towards being the most boring 2-3 button spec but with the highest scaling from talents?
>>584856708nothing is signature about a hd model
I paid for the Forever Tourney leveling addon...
>>584856836It's supposed to be different. Onyxia seems like it will be the same though, not like it needed any change.
Remember the game is shit and if you refund there's an even better chance retail dies even faster and sooner the mass lay-offs arrive
>>584856994she's always so slobbery and drippy. imagine.
>>584856896What's so bad about the HD models? Hd model for goblin mogs the original for example
>>584856938Sally Whitemane is in the game therefore it is impossible for it to be shit
>>584856938ok
>>584856909Ony is a 40 man, making it harder would filter thousands.
Why would I share my awesome gens with the subhuman slop spammers I despise, are you actually mentally retarded in real life lol
>>584856805i'm debating druid, paladin or priest myself
>>584857191how is your slop any different than current slop?
>>584856994The Scarlet Crusade has scarlet themed pajamas. They can't be that bad.
>>584856430Soda obviously. He's the gayest sissy on wow twitch
>>584853802I was wondering about how big an impact that will really have. It's only an extra 10% reduction to the first 4 mobs it hits, right? I have to think that hardcore mageheads will still find a way to work with that.
>>584857383he fucks his hot vtuber gf though
>>584856994can I get this one ultra-enhanced in the vein of this one >>584854903
>>584855076idk if it’s the best but i’m rolling as human hunter and using a crossbow with a wolf pet because it’s a such a vibe. crazy to me how people will choose a race based on racials instead of what they enjoy. that 2% crit difference is not noticeable unless you’re in the top 1%, and if you have to ask without doing the research yourself on a spreadsheet, then you’re not that guy.
>>584854721Level 19 Paladins will be able to get their speed boost, making them the best flagrunners in the bracket.
>>584857483she pegs him lil bro
I wish I could wear a hat and not have my character be bald
troll warrior for the healing while leveling
My gens are high art, based, sophisticated and complex Your slop is basic, retarded, cringe and garbage
>>584857312Theyre just goofy guys
>>584857779Ya mon
if i wanna play a proper melee is rogue a good choice
>>584856881destro is short burst, demo is sustained and the gay boy pet has retard strength, aff is sus
Tournament Day 1 was Kino. Many favorites eliminated. Day 2 should be even better.
>>584857929Sally's birthday should be today
>>584858185It was surprisingly fun. I expected every duel to be 20 min and boring.
>>584858185>all those posts begging for the tournament to end so people stop posting about gameplay>tournament ends>coomer AI slop posting intensifies
I can't decide between playing a dark wizard or a thief
>>584857483she fucks him, everyone knows this
>>584856881Going 31 points in demonology gives you more damage boosting talents: DS (15%) + SL (3%) + MD (10%), plus 60 bonus spellpower and you can boost your pet's damage as well. Then you still have enough points to grab Agonizing Flames in destro for another 10%. Meanwhile deep destro comes up less in total damage talents (including DS), and Shadow and Flame requires you to include inefficient instant cast spells in your rotation to maintain the buff. It's possible that the sims aren't estimating Incinerate properly but just looking at the trees demonology has very strong synergy.
>>584858057yes
>>584858378as long as it's not some degen furry shit like in wowg I'm cool with coomerslop
>>584858763it should have been me rising not him
>>584858313>>584857929Her name is something else. She's supposed to be authoritative and have a name to match, something imposing that matches the fantasy setting and naming conventions. Instead she is Sally, a mid 20th century name that is supposed to sound friendly and diminutive. It subverted my expectations, if that's what they're going for.
>>584858185fug it starts midnight eu time today
>>584858763Now give me his Hammer
>>584857576
>>584858763don't worry bout it>beheads whitefoid>loots chapeau
apparently sally is a good guy and a death knight nowsounds stupid
>>584858903I'll be at work by then
>>584841924who needs guide for leveling? is this aimed at braindead zoomer?
>>584858763clearly he fought a warrior
>>584859035>not wearing red>USES A SWORDwhat were they thinking
>>584858943BLESSED
>watching back duels I missed>someone with trans in their name spammed payo with group invites while he was getting eaten alive by a hunter to try and make him chimp outI have to respect the hustleMage and hunter look really fun for PvP, but I don't like the idea of leveling a class that can't tank or heal
>>584859037What present did she get?
>>584859035erm
>>584850910soul>>584854903soulless
>>584850910what's that on the bench beside her?
>Le Scarlet Crusade is le bad!...because le Forsaken are different than the Scourge...even doe they have the same exact goals just covertly...oh
>>584859167Another hat
>>584859167it's between her legs so that's got to be a hint!
>>584859035yeah, should have stayed a rotten corpse. I hate it when meme magic makes bland irrelevant side characters come back.
>>584859035>>584859117Luckily Forever turned back the clock. Blizzard as the opportunity to do it right this time.
>>584859274>A compound of devout light following humans right outside the capital of the Forsaken AND the only major holdout in the plaguelands>This is bad because uh, some undead arent that evil but most of them areBolvar should've personally killed any members of the Alliance that went to the Monastery to kill Crusaders
>>584859346How did nefarian come back in cata anyway after we took his head off
>>584858612The biggest question with current demo performance comes down to your pet. Basically all best performing lock specs currently have a pet out rather than using DS (if no pact), a completely different approach compared to classic. Demo/destro searing pain uses imp, rest use succubus. Before the latest patch they had bloated hp values and damage too. Their survivability is now a serious concern because your succ isn't going to avoid standing in a fire automatically, and your imp just dies to ranged aoe. Your imp has like 400 hp at level 30 and only gains 1.2 hp per stam. With all the aoe heals blizz added to every healer, there might be heavy raid damage in the new raids. One of the warlock sims puts brand+imp damage at 22% of your total damage. Imagine losing over a fifth of your damage because your imp died.
>>584859482somehow he returned
I finally decided.I'm maining I seriously can't decide what to play, fuck. How did you pick?
>>584859274Scarlet crusade were killing anyone under the paranoia of the disease.And don't forget they are just a puppet of a dreadlord.
JARVIS analyze my chances of being allowed to raid as a ret paladin
>>584859482reanimated by twilight hammer cultists apparently.but lore reason doesn't really matter, it's just blizzard thinking people want fan favorite characters back.
someone add whitemanesate to 222. Sally Whitemane & Horde (Pregnant) thanks
>tfw Aggrearend makes the raids insanely hard so liquid and echo have something to race and /wowfg/ and reddit drop the game because they cant get in raids.
>>584859729wtf does any of this mean
>>584859770>pay2win esport orgs in my classic noo
>>584851013>not a single healer in his team>cant read the screenshotI sure hope youre a bot
>>584859603by eliminating classes one by one I didnt think so much what I wanted to do but what I didnt want to doremember all the bad memories, the stuff that made me quit before, all the annoying shit I had to doand then remove every class that has those things and pick whats left behind
>>584859839you can't see the other half of the horde team in that screenshot.
>>584859770I remember when they tried to do a race to world first for MC in 2019 only to get destroyed by a private server guild who actually knew vanilla.
>>584859603I was going to play something new but just settled for what I'm already good at
>>584859917I don't recall any of the retail guilds racing for rag
Why didn't i see any rogue Sap > Land mine tech yesterday? Seems like free burst damage
>>584859948samefirst started with the class I have been playing for the past decade plusthen starting to consider other options, jump around but eventually end up where I startedthe classes arent so different from vanilla that what you liked before would be different in forever
>>584859994method did and got bodied by apes
>>584860128payo lost a duel because his landmine kept the shaman in combat with the totems and he couldnt resap, was funny
>>584860128Some of em did
>>584859994https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSdPdmpY1FkIt was indeed a real thing with a several top retail guilds racing to level up and clear MC + Ony before anyone else. They quickly swept the whole event under the rug after getting RAPED by private server guild Apes who cleared MC with a raid full of level 58s when everyone else was still in their low 50s. The retail players where completely clueless and didn't even know the fastest leveling starts. Apes actually went dark on all their streams around level 40 when they realized the retail players where just copying what they where doing to level. Apes suddenly turned their stream back on when making the killing blow on Ragnaros.
>>584860249good, fuck that esl retard
>>584860128i saw one try it but sap heartbeated and target ran away lol
Dont you get a legacy achievement or something if you hit 30 on the beta?
>>584860372man good fucking times, retail randys didnt stand a chance against apes
>>584860506You just get max legacy points for free on beta to test them.
sony kept his hairline for an OG or is it just covered up
>>584860372Some big wowtuber needs to make a video covering this whole race because a lot of people still don't know it happened. Retailfags got btfo and that knowledge should be spread far and wide.
>>584859603>I finally decidedyou can't finalize a class for another 2.5 weeks so no reason to stress now homo
>>584860602that's a uhh what do they say these days, a hair system
>>584860128Would require the rogue to properly time their long as fuck sap cheap shot opener with the mine
>>584860372then they disbanded because they wiped too much on vashj and couldn't even get close to any world firsts anymore
>>584860879Pretty typical of any "top" vanilla guild to fall apart at some point in tbc/wrath when they have to face 1 boss that isn't a tank n' spank.
>>584860593I thought I saw somewhere that you get a legacy achievement added to your account if you hit 30 in the beta that transfers to the live version
>>584860996No. Nothing about the beta transfers to live.
>>584860996no chance
>>584860879well yeah they were vanilla lifers
>>584860996there is an achieve for playing beta, but it doesnt give anything
AWR. I Refunded
Which faction has it worse. Priest/warlocks dealing with Undead or Paladins/Rogues dealing with Human.I feel bad for rogues i guess cause they can trinket stun and break another
>>584856568>she gets beaten up and raped by ugly stinky Horde brutes>they show her the same happening to Sally too>mindbroken by not being able to protect the monastrey and her friendsmy brain has been totally corrupted by all those japanese comics
>>584861357priest lock are fine now its not immunity, i say this as a priest main
TurtleWoW died for layerslop..
Locks are 100% definitelt getting nerfed minorly before launch. Should be major. But wont be
>>584861357wotf is a problem only for priests because their fear has a long cd. orc was the bigger problem for locks, but they nerfed it
>>584861485Good.
>>584861485Died for retail-, cash shop mounts and transmog, retail abilities, homogenized racials, retail raid wide buffs, and eventual wow tokens.
>>584861485Turtle died because the gold/character selling gms (that stole nost core) thought they were untouchable and spammed adds everywhere, even on official blizzard social media. I'm sad Shenna and Crogge are never going to get dragged to court because they deserve it for being human scum.
https://voca.ro/1oGGckcWecYU
>>584841332>well deservedlollmao, even
>>584861560So nothing changed then?
Is mage + hunter a good combo for duo leveling?
>>584861635You gotta pay a sub for blizzards retail-.
Are anti-pservers posters just spiteful or anti-"third world"? Turtle wow was obviously better and more aligned with classic than the forever shitshowIt's just hard for me to fathom defending the shit company blizzard has been for such a long time, defending layering, defending skyborne, defending rmt, just to spite private servers?
>>584861692no dude there's no way you can level with mage + hunter
>>584861730that's a positive. filters the thirdies and children
>>584861357Even on Alliance side they'll have to deal with Orc racial fucking up rogue cc chains.
>>584860879Was tier 5 really much of a bottleneck for them? With 2.4.3 and everything on their side?
>>584861772bro theres chinks and esls all over forever beta and thats with the paywall
>>584856568>>584854172cutemane is the best iteration yet
>>584861560>Died for retail-, cash shop mounts and transmog, retail abilities, homogenized racials, retail raid wide buffsWait are we talking about Turtle or Forever?
>>584861560>cash shop mounts and transmog, retail abilitiesSo like turtle?
>>584861692hunter + anything honestly just slows the hunter down
>I am a based white man because I pay a subscription fee to a Californian LGBT company owned by a jewish man that hasn't made a good warcraft product since the 2000s
>>584861850yea now imagine if it was free. you get literal cavemen
>>584861524>what are diminishing returns
>>584842817>KYS shitskin. You're not getting retail races.Every race we have now other than skyelves are retail races you retard.
>>584861936Calm down, Rajesh.
>>584861820well they were already kinda shitty by thendidn't they only got rag and onyxia first?
>>584861873People are okay with cash shops on private servers because they are better priced. That's it.
>>584861560>Died for retail-, cash shop mounts and transmog, retail abilities, homogenized racials, retail raid wide buffs, and eventual wow tokens.bitch about cash shop, nostalgic over turtle wowhow can someone be so retarded?
>>584861959I don't have to imagine. I played turtle and people there actually spoke english and trade chat wasn't full of chinese names or people talking about streamers.
>>584861936classic 2019 was good
>>584861820They spend 90% of their time on pservers chasing R14 and BWL first clear and quit for the next fresh hype. Almost zero experience on 2.4.3
>>584861851I need a Sally Whitemane SOL anime
scenario: there's some enemy players ganking in a quest zone and you ask zone chat for helpold game>where at?>We're coming! >Killrapemurderfucker has invited you to a groupnew game>um, have you tried changing LAYERS?>not my layer not my problem>bro just wait for a layer shift lol.......>we're all on the [insert streamer name here] layer RETARD
>>584862160bajillion dollar idea for Blizzard to capitalize on and the modern market is ripe for it
Not watched the tournament - has there been any classes that are dominating / failing massively compared to others?How are warriors doing?
Will there be justice for /ourguy/ Jerome?
>>584862221I didn't watch the stream but I did see none of the streamers playing in the rogue tournament made it into the top 3 of rogues.
all this walking when questing in the human zones is so dumb lol
>>584862221locks dominating, warriors the only class without a single player going 6-0
>>584862213general chat is per layer though
>>584862221lock like always
I had a good dream bwos
>>584862221
>>584862221>any classes that are dominatingTo no one's surprise: warlock and paladin>How are warriors doing?lmao, lol.
In the 3-6 months range the influencers will turn on Forever which will be quietly renamed as the project is shitcanned. Some of the "edgy" influencers like nixxiom will make nostalgic videos about turtle wow and the lessons that weren't learned by the forever devs. You will quietly admit to yourself that vatniks with no budget made the eternally definitive Classic+.
>>584862275justwoo and pshero are streamers
>>584862221locks and pallies on topevery class except warrior had at least someone go 6-0
>>584862342>>584862326So they play the mirror until the find the best and do a proper seeded bracket?
>>584862221Warlocks maintain their aura of being 1v1 rapists
>>584862342How do warriors win against anyone other than really, really stupid rogues?
>>584862326>win every fight>still eliminatedDamn that's crazy, must suck for those guys
>>584862478>>584862456
lol margar expert tailor and raging faggot provides me extra quest for homo succubus
>>584849045>are there simulations for hps?there's no pretty site for it, but Doublezuggs has spreadsheets tracking that shit. Check his youtube for a discord invite and you can get the sheets there. It's basically Druid/Priest (S tier)Shaman (A tier)Paladins (Shadow Priest passive healing tier)
Remember WoW Forever is being shoveled full of turbo pozzed retail faggot aids and to refund your pre-order while you canDon't give money to blizzard to fund retail or any of their gay nigger aids shit
Retailbaby hereI started playing in WotLK, and I never played any classic version, nor did I play on forever betaI've got a question about professions for a mage - I am hearing that crafted gear is stupidly strong, should I take tailoring+enchanting in that case? I really love engineering on retail, I've had it on my main from WotLK all the way to Midnight, and I'm hearing that engineering in classic/forever is also very strong and useful.
>>584862478It was even worse for the mages. Most of the good ones went 5-1 but weren't even allowed to do tie breakers, they just arbitrarily chose 3 of them.Lots of them got shafted, including kalvish who probably wouldve won the mage bounty.
>>584862602enchanting is a meme.
I'm fairly sure I'll want to end up healing but I don't know too much about the specs.I like the aesthetic of holy with all the light business but how do priest and paladin differ from each other in terms of niche, viability and playstyle? Do holy palas get to keep their plate armor?I also know that disc is more about prevention but what about druid and shaman, what do they go for and what's their vibe?
>>584862602engi + tailoring is probably bis
Has anything funny happened from the tournament?
>>584862694jerome spergout
>>584862653traditionally priest is more of a raid and party healer, where pallies are for healing tanks. not sure how the changes to downranking will change how pallies perform but it doesn't look too great for them.
>>584862521if the incubus is gay why are you using it?
>>584862602engi is always biscrafting professions let you make gear while leveling up if you are bad at the gamebut they do usually craft some pre-raid bis items as well so most people have them in the early phases but later on they arent usedenchanting is always good just for disenchanting, dont level it, just disenchant items rather than vendor them when the dusts, essences and shards are worth more (epics for example)
>human, male>blue eyes, white skin, blonde>warrior>2h sword>Professions: mining, smithing>say FOR THE ALLIANCE as i dash to bossIts wow forever time
>>584862326>ban SL nearly all previous vanilla tournies>allow SL nowFault of who ever made the rules but also these guys knew they were playing a broken class and only 4 were going to make it.
>>584862269what did he do wrong, he kited to the edge (which is normal) and was gonna die so he feared.
>>584862776it has more hp than succubus in the beta
>>584862326How the fuck do you even determine the weights for this if the top 14 are all undefeated? Personal performance?
>>584862862He continued to run away from the duel after he feared.
>>584862862he fled the duel (just as he was about to die anyway) and argued it should be a re-duel because of a flee
>>584862694Nohitjerome is off the wagon, I reckon he was on a mix of uppers and downers, tried to cheat, and proceeded to argue with the admins until they kicked him out of the tournament. He then went on a lengthy tirade about how corrupt the tournament is. People are saying he's the new Pirate.
>>584862694Someone cheated and got banned.Someone else cheated and didnt get ban.Suspicious amounts of DQ in favour of streamers.Advertising RestedXP alternative.Weird seeding rules.
>>584862862>he kited to the edgeand he didn't stop there
>>584862602>I've got a question about professions for a mage - I am hearing that crafted gear is stupidly strong, should I take tailoring+enchanting in that case? I really love engineering on retail, I've had it on my main from WotLK all the way to Midnight, and I'm hearing that engineering in classic/forever is also very strong and useful.If you wanna go engineering then level as Skinning+Mining. Sell everything early when it's expensive. When prices drop, drop skining and levelling up engineering.
>>584862903they had them all duel eachother for tie breakersmages weren't so lucky, its basically a random rating based on how their past opponents performs
>>584862809>>584862660Thanks anons. But a question naturally arises: how do I level engi without mining? Wouldn't the ores be crazy expensive on the AH?
>>584862949>Sell everything early when it's expensive????
>>584862653>Do holy palas get to keep their plate armor?yes, with plate and a shield they're a kino tanky pvp healer. susceptible to curse of tongues (increased cast time) because almost the entirety of their healing is two spells, flash of light (fast) and holy light (slow). can cleanse anything but curses. they get one instant heal (holy shock) that can heal or deal damageresto druids are also great, especially in forever. they're more about HoTs/instants and being slippery targets. root is great. can decurse and remove poisons only. battle rez is greatall this taken in a pvp lens. can't speak for shaman
>>584862458I'm imagining you can stack up Slam, Auto, + Overpower to a single GCD and do some crazy burst with WW axe.
>>584862949no one is buying anything at the start, no one has money, prices are 5% above vendor
>>584862974Oh that's not so bad I guess. Sucks for the mages though, why not just make them do the same thing? These tourneys are so fucking amateur.
>>584862975just buy it because you can farm like crazy on mage, or mine it save the mats and drop mining to engi
>>584863023time crunch I guess
>>584862975>how do I level engi without mining?Farm gold, buy mats.>Wouldn't the ores be crazy expensive on the AH?BS and Engi are often the more expensive professions to level .
>>584862975you make more money from aoeing than mining>but aoe capyou can still do 4 mob pulls and end up killing twice as fast as most classes who kill one by one
>>584862975you could try leveling as mining and tailoring, store the ores on a bank alt until your're ready to swap
>>584862975I'd start off with dual gathering talentsskinning and mining (save all the ore to level up engi for later) and skinning to sell the mats to help fund it.Or you can go mining and tailoring (to make gear while you level) and then eventually swap to engi
>>584862975go mining + engi, at 60 drop mining for tailoring. the only thing you get from tailoring is a belt, but it's not a big dealor mining + tailoring if you are playing pve only
>>584863158levelling with tailoring is nice because it has increased cloth drops, can just save em up
NTA but what if I just leveled while using Engi? What then huh?
>>584863198incorrect
>>584862916whats the deal with him? i heard he used to be a homeless drug addict or something who turned his life around by making wow videos or something
>>584863259your gold for skills anon? your mount gold?
>>584863293
>>584862916He apologized already
>>584863353nice source
>>584863023They did do the same thing, qualifying is based on points followed by buchholz score. The mages only had one slot to fill after those were considered with two players tied on both for the last slot. Those two players then duelled for the last slot.
>>584863353nta but thats not true. we played the beta and we don't have things line mining giving you extra stam or skinning giving you extra crit and all that shit.
>>584863306>your gold for skills anon?Would only be picking up the most essential skills>your mount gold?I'm playing Paladin.
>>584863434No they didnt.All the warlocks dueled eachother to determine top 4.Mages did not, they used the bullshit rating.
>>584863296I don't know his entire story, but he became kinda famous during 2019 classic for multiboxing and being out of his fucking mind high on stimulants. Somewhere between then and now he appears to have at least to some degree kicked the drug habit, and pivoted to making derivative Youtube content and successfully rage baiting redditors into engaging with his content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3qzJ5z6z30payo getting spam invited during his duel lmao seethe more streamers
>>584863485Because the warlocks were all tied on points while the mages were not.
>>584863518Wrong, they were tied on wins
>>584863353
>>584863539Yes, number of wins determines your points. That's the same thing. Warlocks were all tied and mages were not.
Why did Alex quit on us already?
>>584863473shit still gets expensive, especially since paladin skills are more expensive than normal to offset the free mountif you're mining as well though, it's bearable. just be very frugal
>>584863353HAHAHAHA people are STILL falling for the ai slop fake shit? None of that is in the game. This is shit created after the Blizzcon demo where people had ai randomly pull shit from several different versions of WoW to quickly put up Forever websites for clicks.
>>584863560https://mobalytics.gg/wow-forever/guides/wow-forever-all-new-profession-changesassfaggotlytics lied
>>584863353There's so much wrong information floating around, this is literally a wotlk profession bonus.This isn't in the beta or in any way in the forever client.
>>584863607>Yes, number of wins determines your points.Obviously fucking not lmao.There was like 8 mages at 5-1 and only one mage at 6-0 because the warlock he dueled was a bot.
>>584863628obviously
>>584863560bodied that retail tranny
>>584862876>>584862776Not only that but the succubus is bugged and keeps spamming her sound effect like every 10 seconds.
>>584841060The DPS differences are so minimal I honestly think tauren is best warrior with 5% extra health and 90sec warstomp
>>584863628Maybe don't use a AI slop aggregator site as a source?
so you telling me a 100 000 dollarino tournament has a worse points system than your average local mtg tournament.............
>>584863198
>>584863614bipolar man will be back nov 4th don't fret
>>584863703mwaaaaah *SMACK*
>been pretty set on playing orc shaman for launch>level up to 30 on beta as orc>have the urge to play tauren instead due to how much i liked TB more in forever than ever>see all the weird issues tauren have >play around in the dressing room and most tauren helms are straight up jank broken in forever, the wolf caps shamans wear usually being absolutely busted>now getting an urge to play alliance priest instead>looking at both dwarf and human, cant decide.
new ele shaman looks cool fags
>>584863810dwarf priests reigned in vanilla for 20 years, it's human time
>>584863615I tend to be pretty economical, but a lot of paladin skills are really useful even if somewhat niche while leveling.
>>584863670So there was one mage at 6-0 and 8 at 5-1, meaning they weren't tied like warlocks who had 14 players at 6-0. They could then qualify based on buccholz until the last slot where the next tie was, which was the duelled for. Whether you accept the 6-0 mage as legitimate isn't part of the equation.
>>584863918They didn't change anything about what makes it horrible, just introduced a joke version of EM.
>>584862976If release is like beta, eventually all gathering mats will hit rock bottom prices, selling for as much as you can get for vendoring them. Gathering profs won't be real moneymakers in the long run, other than just having access to more shit to vendor. If you sell them early before they flood the market, you MIGHT make some dosh to cover buying it all back to level Eng.
>>584850129nu blizzard would never
>>584863810For me the deal breaker is playing with gnome niggers and all the AGP freaks. Never again
>>584863979>ased on buccholz which is completely arbitrary in a game that does not already have pre-established ELO ratings for players like chess does.the 5-1 mages should have been able to tie break.
>>584863971yep, I try doing the same "only the essentials" and then find I'm still getting 75% or more of new spells. like ok turn undead maybe that can wait. but most others are still nice to have
>>584863987The old EM was cringe. Ohhhh a free crit? Suck my balls nigger. It's only good for a gay little pvp burst. A total meme spec. The new one is cool, at least you get to spam chain lightning and cleave some shit.>nooooo but chain lightning is le bad nowNah they will change the numbers. Source: I just know.
ShockadinArms warBalance DruidPvP focused
>>584863810humans priests are kings
>>584862776me=>"lol thanks for the extra quest and xp faggot"anon=> "if it is so gay why are you using it then ?"i am not sure if this is the weakest ragebait or if you are tarded
>>584863810dwarf still king, human priest racials are far worse, dwarf racial covers it weaknesses
>>584864140you are gay
>>584864097giga based. those three classes + mage are the four I'm ultimately rolling in this game. two humies two nelfies, all cat mounts
>>584864003Are you retarded? Everything is worthless in beta because everyone is stuck at lvl 30 and making 5 alts, so every possible mat is being gathered by thousands of people all the time. That will not be the case on release. Tin/iron/mithril/stones etc will not be that cheap.
>>584863810honestly that setup you posted looks fucking KINO make that dwarf, lad.
>>584864097>Balance Druid>PvP focused
>>584862592see you at release big dog
>>584864187Pristine leather and Ancient Lichen is also going to be high in demand because pretty much every crafted item uses them. And you know retards will waste all their money on the BoP crafting items while levelling.
>still no futa or femboy succubusSo much for blizzard's famous inclusivity
at 60 you'll need like 300-400 additional spelldmg to cover up the reductions in basedmgso i assume prebis will be 700+ spelldmg?
>>584862160dont stop the cutemane train
>>584864053It's a flawed implementation I can agree, but even then it does it's job at drastically speeding up the group stage and approximating turnout. Basically you should've won your games if you wanted to stay in the tournament. The warlocks knew this, that's why they had so many 6-0's. Mages are just slacking little bitches who settle for 5-1's.
>>584861761Blizzcucks are the most raped playerbase in gaming. Plus Turtle genuinely did have some reddit mods for a while but most people are mad because it had a blanket ban on /pol/shit (including left wing politics)
"This tournament, with around 6,000 participants, has been arranged by Tipsout" wait isnt Tipsout the guy who sperged as a raidlead in molten core ?
>>584864408not all classes need that much
>>584864347Yeah, there will be so many noobs unable to buy a mount because they just had to make a leatherworking helm, lul. Double gather is a no brainer.
>>584864470COMMS!
>>584864475>Shaman
>>584864275gup nigger loleternally raped bitch
>>584864470Different Tipsout.This one has a bigger nose, and a moustache with glasses. Can't be the same guy.
>>584864553>yeah im not gonna play this shit thats why im still posting in the general haha>lol feeling raped yet bitch?
>>584864475people keep posting this meme image and yet it doesnt mean anything
>>584864475why the fuck did they have to murder the single class i wanted to play?
>Bros are all going Horde for some Godforsaken reason>Don't like ANY of the races in 'nilla for HordeLife is torture.
>>584864604third world nigger pepes won't save you lol
>>584864635stop worrying about meme beta charts retardthe specs will be balanced-ish, play what you want to play
>>584864497meanwhile I will rock herbalism warlock get free mount at 40 and make money of idiots too stupid to save money for mount
>>584864646I find it hard to believe that someone doesn't at least like Orc and Undead at the very least, even if they mainly play alliance.
>>584864646Are you me
>>584864695>bro trust blizzard to not fuck it upThe entire point of wanting classic + is BECAUSE blizzard fucked everything up and it's looking no different this time.
>>584864646skyborne is made for you in that case
>>584864646and that is why blizzard created the skyborn for peeps with no taste like you
>claims to command multiple servers, literally tens of thousands strong>still refuses to roll on pvp servers because "griefers"lollmao
>>584864695just because it gets balanced, doesnt include the time it takes for them to fix it or if their fix doesnt completely rewrite how the class you liked plays
>>584864746>>584864834ok you guys win! please play a "meta" spec based on retarded beta numbersor just don't play at all, idc
LUse people's outcry for better dwarf racials to make skyborne go from a pay2play race to a literal pay2win race with their new racials LOLFUCK THIS TURBO POZZED FAGGOT AIDS COMPANY LOL
>get mage fomo when warlock (no nova, blink, new arcane spec, conjures portals etc) >get lock fomo when mage (durable pvp god, S+ tier aesthetics and class fantasy) it's fucking overrrrrr
I just really really hope whatever kind of narrative they are making for Forever and any future updates doesn't firmly make one faction or the other the designated "evil" one for the purpose of the plot. I think it'd be nice to have both factions have the potential for evil but represented in different ways. Alliance are more obsessed with status quo and punishing oathbreakers and those who would shake things up too much, almost a banality of evil. The Horde commit evil out of feeling like they have to do these things to establish themselves in the world, or with Undead they are just really self-serving and cruel.
>>584864695The beta has been going on for a whole month and the spell values are still that bad for shaman.Beta is over in 3 days, this will make it to launch where they will be too busy dealing with other shit to touch class balance until a couple of months into most people being 60.
>>584864721Orcs look fucking retarded, and Undead make every piece of gear look like shit with their bones everywhere. If I could be a full skeleton like the random mobs, or a full flesh Forsaken they'd be fine.>>584864731I'm Canadian so I hope not.>>584864758>>584864784And you assume that I like... Blood Elves because of this? Let me assure you: No.
>>584864898nahhhh she'll be right
>>584864834>or if their fix doesnt completely rewrite how the class you liked playsthis is the important part to me, i don't mind it not being the best dps but i do care that its literally the worst dps in the game and they changed the class to be about spamming lava burst instead of chain lightning when no ele shaman wants lava burst and we want our chain lightning back
>>584864925>Undead make every piece of gear look like shit with their bones everywhereCRINGE, full flesh forsaken are fucking lame-os
>>584863810dumping some more dressing room mogs im making. Playing around with SD and HD models.
>>584864865that has nothing to do with meta specs, if you like the way it used to play, it matters, theres zero guarantee you can play how you used to, and gambling on a fix that might never come or be completely different is insane
>>584864925Faggot
>>584864960SILENCE, armour ruiner.
>>584864945t. retard never experienced a blizzard beta to launch cycle
>>584864993IT LOOKS COOL AND IS PART OF THE AESTHETIC OF BEING A ROTTEN CORPSE
>>584864960nta but bones look cool for cloth and especially leather, it looks stupid for plate especially how you're hunched over in plate. hunched looks good for cloth and leather.
>>584864963warlock tier sets looks so good there isint much transmogging you have to doshadoweave mask and skullforge reaver maybe the only exceptions
>>584864983The worst part about having to play on this faction is having to play alongside you ugly ass Greenskin Quasimodo lookin' mother fuckers with your huts.>>584865042It does NOT look cool. It makes plate look stupid.
>>584864971they said they don't want ele shaman to be like it was in classic so they killed chain lighting. they don't want chain lightning to be good, its why they made """elemental mastery"""" allow you to piss out tons of chain lightnings because they want it to be weak as fuck.
>>584865098they were begging on leddit to add the chinese non-bony undead so maybe you'll get lucky
>>584864475heals are way stronger with how much healing power you get, you are stronger in level 20 gear and its only up from there
>>584864887It was always like this in retail desu
>Alliance raids Orgrimmar>layering system phases them all out as soon as they cross the gatelmao
>>584864891Forever shares the same writing team as retail, anon.
>>584865237just like I remember from vanilla
>>584864963
>>584864887I always had big warlock envy in vanilla as a mage, maybe because they raped me constantly....
>>584865202Praying. Femsaken look cool when their shit isn't mangled.
>>584865283What's that top?
>>584865237This is the only thing thats bothered me about layering.
>>584865283Strangely enough, I look just like this IRL
>>584865365exotic silk dress. Found it on the forever dressing room
>>584865249No they don't
>>584865408sit on my face and plap my balls PLEASE
I want more quests where the game hammers you with "WAR IS... LE BAD" and reminds us chud players that we must be more friendly and inclusive
i could fix retail in one patch of one expansion and it would be less gay than forever. there's only a handful of things wrong with retail. whereas classic is a 20 year old tired piece of shit
>>584864859woyerbros................
>>584864418need cute ideas
Kek retail trannies a fucking SEETHING
>>584865818I want the game to straight out tell me to castrate myself without being told to just play ret paladin
>>584865920Warrior being a weak bitch in 1v1 but god tier when supported is peak classic SOVL
Putler's whore stopping grifting wow and is now grifting other games
>>584865990They still havent managed to make a good looking orc shaman armor for WOW
>>584866327She looks like she would make out with me at a party after we drink red wine and smoke cigarettes.
>>584864819right-winger are weak men. dont expect too much of them.
>>584866347its true. its so easy to pull off, just look at every fucking shaman set in Hots. When it comes to shaman and horde, less is more. ALWAYS. Just a simple wolf pelt over the soulders and cut all the damn bones and it would look 100x better
What class is more in line with the song golden brownPaladin, or Warrior? Or maybe Druid?
>>584863158Bad advice imo - gathering professions are worse for making money on a new server than crafting professions.So many people flood the market with mats that the price gets crazy cheap.With crafting you can often find some kind of recipe that will auction for more.
>>584866487waste of time, just level insteadgathering will still make lotsa money at 60 and it requires little time while levelingalso megaserver will rape your gyrochronatom etc prices
>>584866327But she praised heroes 5?
>>584865990Shaman in the warcraft 3 art style are supposed to have vibrant red in their color scheme not this muted pastel tranny pink and what the fuck is up with the fuck huge shoulders, it looks so fucking stupid, there should be a hide shoulders option in the character window at leastthey really can't help themselves can they, this looks so fucking stupid compared to warcraft 3, this is a slight improvement but still all the pointy shit on the armor is cringe as fuckshaman's are dog shit because the dev assigned to them is obviously a cia tranny
>>584866620you can hide shoulders in forever transmog. You can hide everything if you want and just run around naked. This was my shaman for a bit in the beta
>>584866749You fucked that boar to death, didn't you
>>584866846well he's gotta fuck something until the nelves show up
>they moved the stress-test date because of this tournament I expect some warlock nerfs
They should add druid trolls at some point. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
>>584866620Nuartists literally cannot grasp the concept of sharp and vibrant textures.Everything on retail washed up smooth cosplayer foam costume.
Faggot nigger already stalking the general...greatKilling off one general and turning it into a ghost town wasn't enoughYou'd think being so good at driving people away, you'd be comfortable being alone and fuck off, but yet here you are, seeking attention and being a nuisance got the reddits under control now and can settle back into monotony spamming
>>584867126here we go again
>>584866973>tournament on weekend>stress test moved from monday to wednesday >"it was because of the tournament"huh?
>>584867126calm down
>>584864925We are anglo brothers.You are my blood.
>wake up>no beta inviteoh.. i guess i'll just level my mage on hardcore then..
>>584866973locks 100% need a nerf. at lvl 30(35) they have like 40% of their op shit only and still rape ass. once they get into destro, after getting soul link, it will get absolutely disgusting
>>584867350>won't you please consider the state of 1v1 duels!>blizzard? hey blizzard? are you listening to me?
Proud faggotsrussia stronk
guessbros, which faction is getting locked on pvp?
>>584867437yea no one cares about tank and spank pve
>>584867350Who cares about 1v1 duels? Its locks class identity to be good at that shit, let classes keep their strengths and weaknesses
Which class is currently the most raped
>>584867469
>>584867467Horde, it's where all the streamerfags are rolling.
>>584867350nigga what are you on about, warlock gets out dpsed in dungeons constantly, they are good in PvP and 20 min multitarget fights that do not excist.....
>>584867529shaman
>>584867529Shaman or rogueShitty changes vs no changes
>>584861621I would advise you to just stay away from the Internet for the next year if people being excited about GTA makes you mad.You'll be in for a really bad time.
>>584867529rogues are so mindbroken they think they are holding their changes back for a big rogue focused update
>>584867537Sodapoppin n friends guild said they considering ally after race changes
>>584867616Rogue is just terrible and no one anywhere should play one. Please?
Why is the Prot Warrior tree so fucking boring?
>>584867632I don't know why this stupid gay retard wants to make a big multi streamer guild. This ossified and standardized onlyfangs-lite content is not what I consented to. I hope he fucking dies choking on a chicken bone if you scry my meaning.
>>584867745because it just works.
>>584867632imagine being this cucked and mindbroken....
hard work samefagging the retail general to seem alive with the gayest faggot shit you can find and still getting beat out by this place
>>584867779Its content. That's it,
>>584862862>>584862907>>584862912>>584862925Him kiting to the edge of the duel and fleeing because he never went back inbounds wasn't the issue. The issue was that he got an attitude with the admins demanding a rematch after Savix offered a rematch (it's not Savix's place to do that), being told no, take the loss and move on. Then when he elevated the issue, Tipsout joined the call, the guy running the whole event. Tipsout then tells him, bro, stop sperging out, you lost, move on, or else I'm going to DQ you. Jerome kept on sperging out and called Tipsout corrupt, so he got ONE FINAL WARNING to knock it off. He called him corrupt again.Honestly, him getting a round loss was the best result. He was clearly panicking in the duel and tunnel vision on his HP and action bar on the bottom right quadrant of his screen. I wager he legitimately did not see the timer to get back into the duel arena
>>584867861It's ossified and tired content and content that will be identically retread in a few months when hardcore servers are out. He plays with streamers randomly all the time. But why make a big gay streamer guild? Why does he need to have this attention all the time? He's a fucking faggot.
>>584867897Tips is an incompetent brown idiot and a recovering crack fiend had to be the one to speak truth to power. What a world..
I'd love to play rogue but the "never being in demand for any content ever" is a real downer
I'm going to the gas station to get smokes and a redbull. Anyone want anything?
>>584868178Can I get a can of Relentless and a packet of fags.
>>584846070am I the only one that thinks the shoulders on the male orc model look terrible
>>584868178Get me a pizza
just delete paladin at this point
>>584868271the mango boost for a quid is pretty good
>>584868381Prot pally isnt meant to be top DPS too. You got a threat increase to make up for the damage loss
Even he is saying its retail now
>>584865935looking bashful or proud at the scarlet soldiers practicing in the yard
>>584868491Is that idubbz?
>>584868491Am I supposed to know who this brown is
>>584867529Shaman
>>584868381How cucked is Holy?
>>584868582>>584868532retards
>>584867564>>584867572>>584868597I don't have the beta, can I get a tldr on why shaman is so shit?
>>584868701In the history of wow shamans have been shafted for 2 decades
>>584868701Elemental numbers are tuned low as shit for some unknown reason and they took away their signature burst damage
>>584868701Their new level 30 class quest reward is shit for the effort required.Only option for Alliance is Dwarf.Elemental is shit.Totems are now raid wide so Enhance have to get cucked by Resto.Resto is probably the only thing okay about them.Still enjoyed every second of playing Shaman on the beta.
>>584851478>hype is dyingNot true, I look like this while waiting for release without a beta:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc
>paladins get giga OP class quest weapon at 20>all their skills are nerfd>warriors get okayish class quest weapon at 30>all their skills are nerfd
>>584868491who?
>>584868491Looks like a brown ftm tranny
>>584856994AAUUGHHHHHMy kokoro...So cute...
I like the idea of warrior if he didn't have such low self-preservation. What can I do that is not just playing together with a healer?
>>584869019Go prot and go Troll.
>>584864721NTA but I dont like them.If I would go horde, trolls would be my only option. They are fucking cool mon.
>>584869019Thats part of the appeal with warrior or rogue for me. You are just a dude with a weapon and a health bar, not some regenerating magical fairy faggot
>>584869132Magical Fairies are S O V LI am a magical fairy and I am completely heterosexual.
>>584869041I've seen that but unfortunately I don't play horde...>>584869132Yeah okay but it feels shit while leveling and I don't think I'll do much endgame
>>584869165also there is nothing wrong with being gay.
The Long Ear Triad of WoW;1. Sky Elves. 2. Night Elves.3. Twolls.
>>584868271>a packet of fags.we got that right here
newt>>584869363
>>584869230>it feels shitNah man it feels right. If you really want a healing warrior then just play a paladin
>>584869019prot is a good solo/grinding spec now
>>584868829Prot warrior can solo packs of 5-6 mobs and elites.
>>584868701Elemental is the worst spec in the game and its not even close. They took out elementals burst and replaced it with just spamming lava burst and neutered chain lightning which was their signature spell to be completely useless. Everyone who plays ele shaman wants them to revert it but on their podcast during the class episode they said specifically they don't want shamans to do bursts with chain lightning when the whole appeal of shaman is bursting via chain lightning or getting a windfury proc.Ele got their class rework in the last patch and its still by far the worst spec in the game and its not what ele shamans wanted at all.
>>584867268Why else would they move it then genius
