darkest before dawn edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-71Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful LinksNew Threads:>>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>584789465
proggy anchor
has betz killed himself yet? i didn't read his manifesto
the basilisk...
Google Play console changed the dashboard so now when I open it I see downloads and revenues and the change from a year ago. This has caused me massive psychological trauma. My mental health was already hanging by a thread and depending on not knowing how bad things are.
remember to thank SI
>>584882497>App ID: 5361210>Has multiplayer>Account has no other games associated with itSomehow all that from a no name. Makes me think some of these cloners are big companys using aliases. And now stats of both for comparative purposesFamily Time (anon):>#45 in wishlists for unreleased games>42,954 followersFamily Time (thief):>unranked wishlists>193 followrs Huh seems anon showing it off was the wiser choice in this case. Now I'm going to say something which all the lurker youtubers will likely start espousing in their upcoming videos since so many seem to frequently start talking the subjects I talked about weeks prior as if they are starved for content to make and rob me of what I originally talk about. *ahem* Anon won. It doesn't matter that he revealed it that early in development, he apparently got so many wishlists that his game is GMI even if cloners show up. Cloners will not be able to dethrone him. They can ride his coattails which is something I'd personally be pissed about to see happen to my game if they are a stranger, someone close to me coming in and cloning to get some gains for himself is a-okay. An alliance to make money, rather than competition. Back on track, anon wonned. The clones can only ride his coattails, but steal the thunder of success? Absurdly unlikely, his game simply got too popular. One of those situations where showing off your game early works in your favor. I'll stay hidden though, safer that way.
>>584889493AI can strap together multiplayer in like a few prompts/tweaking. It's just some brown with AI.
I'm outspoken about being anti-AI so that I don't be scrutinized and don't have to discloseit's a bonus that AIphobes play my game and compliment my art (mostly AI hehe), there's something thrilling about itI have a bud who I pay a little to say he's the 'artist' and we've got a nice system down where we can generate sketches from the assets to give a trail of how it was madeyesdevs are eatin good these days
A slime wanders in the rain
>>584889816nice larp faggot AI sketches look AI. it's not there yet.
>>584889493That game is a giant outlier, it showed up on Steam 3 months ago and got a quarter of a million wishlists. Even the second game which showed up 2 months later got more wishlists than most AGDG games release with.
>>584889493It's weird how just 15 years ago a big company sued a cloner and they settled out of court...by which the cloner gave away full rights of the clone to the clonee. I wonder what would happen to the cloning scene if this happened again. Though it's weird how that happened but other cloners simply don't get sued at all or they do yet no similar punishment occurs.
>>584889885>b-b-b-but I recognized the ones I recognized!no shit retard, do you see the part you're missing?
>>584889868lovely. when rain takes on scene light colors I stand up and say KINO!
>>584889493>#45 in wishlistsAnon is GMI
Game development used to be so comfy. Its not comfy anymore bros.
>>584889960I follow(and have used) the best of the best AI image gen, nothing passes yet.
>>584890130Why not?It's still comfy for me.
>I can see that this image from an AI image gen account is AII'm not sure how to help you
>>584890305how do we be like you?
>>584889816you might be onto something. I disclosed that i used ai for my mod and got shat on even though i spent a lot of time on the mod and it was incredibly bug free and polishedbut i see other mod creators pretend to not use AI even tho its obvious and no one cares
another day going back through the demo day entries looking for games to cloneI really appreciate the work some of you have put in
>>584890372Take all the things you love and put them in your game. Then doing the dev work becomes a form of appreciation rather than a chore.
>>584889173Wrong webm RIP.Cargo pod delivery. Kind of makes me want to pivot to a worms style combat game.
>>584890364i pass every "which one is AI" test. I can tell. you can't.
>>584890415silky smooth cinematic fps.>This is making we want to pivot to some kind of worms combat game.Like this?https://store.steampowered.com/app/650220/Interplanetary_Enhanced_Edition/
Tired of AIphobes saying my game doesn't pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mucEq_AuUUsHavent played new big games for a decade, so it is really became that bad even generation zyklon makes fun of us uncs
>>584890745preach xister
>>584889389Read his manifesto and you'll have the answer
>>584890745and yet they have fun playing it before they find out, isn't it interesting
Thoughts on this inventory im working on? how do you like the look?
>>584890913yes sis! just like that time I nearly got a bf until he felt my pp
>>584890691>silky smooth cinematic fps.It's only because I was using the time speed up (cope)>Like this?Kind of, but less resource autism and more funky weapons. Something with a lot more "normie" gamer appeal. Probably won't do it unless I get really stuck making the resources gathering progression fun.Speaking of, how do games like factorio push the player to expand? Are the later unlocks just so expensive that AFKing a small but productive factory isn't worth it?
>>584889389I'll spoonfed you anon.
Kenney BTFO
>>584890785how to zoomers write dialog?
>>584891221With emoji
>>584891087>UP YOURS YOU FUARKIN CUNT!!woah there timmy! unprofessional!
>>584891087Fucking turtle stop slopslurping and start fixing shurtreal instead
>>584891087>The guy who killed Unreal Tournament 4 for literally no reason pretending he has love for the craft
>>584891320:pregnant man:
>>584890998>Speaking of, how do games like factorio push the player to expand? Are the later unlocks just so expensive that AFKing a small but productive factory isn't worth it?need more space. you run out of resources. you need more resources faster. some resources might only be far away. pretty much it
>>584891087Tim dunking on these nobodies is rightI should up my expectations
what's the appeal process if Steam thinks you've used AI without disclosing? Can't I just say "No I didn't"I always fudge the assets a bit anyhow, haven't been accused yet and I've been doing it for years now
>>584891087timmy getting flustered!
>>584891572Interesting. I definitely need to move to a more complex method of refining resources, instead of just getting them to a single building and letting it work.
>>584891494Um Fortnite was making more money so he was justified in killing UT4>It was being developed by the community for free and they killed it anyway
>>584891639nobody plays your games michael.
>>584890503Why does he wear the mask bros...
>>584891639Steam doesn't give a shit. The review process is just to make sure your game kind of matches your steam page, it runs decently, and it doesn't contain malware.and it fails on those 3 points all the time.
>>584890785Zoomers are mean and disengenious creatures, complete and absolulte dicksucking retards that will never amount to anything, they already lack a real culture and will continue to spiral in hatred towards everyone except themselves when they are to blame for every single problem of the modern world. The people that write those games and modern capeshit are GenX ers AKA their parents the abandoned generation, why do you think they constantly shitpost these threads? Creating is hard, dopamine is too slow, easier to shitpost in every single way possible. Anyways finished the tutorial all it's missings are cutscenes and some decorations, moving onto the actual world, the beach biome. Then a Furrybait city, Jungle , make a city loop and i will be done with the demo ^-^. So 2 more months perchance.
>>584891494he turned off the servers and shit for the old games too. he gives 0 shits
>>584891012Betz keeps winning... I kneel...
Is there a way to learn BASIC to make games for it on modern hardware? With the current RAM apocalypse I currently can't afford a stick of RAM (yes im brown and third world) and would like to prefer to generate as less heat as much as possible.I'd like to learn BASIC from text based adventure to displaying 16 color images for an adventure game that could also run on modern hardware natively.
>>584891981cool, you got a demo somewhere I can clone?
>>584892159probably some website?
>>584890503>AP logo
>>584892159why do onions sipping cum guzzling niggas ask basic question as if chatgpt doesnt fucking existnigga ask AI dont ask niggas on 4chan some niche dumb question you moron
>>584891012Betz needs to learn game dev interest waxes and wanes. We just came out of a pretty big cycle of interest, and now it's starting to break up as AI doomerism kicks in, and new aspiring devs realize how much work is involved.
>>584891221Holy shit on you on god for real for real?? Chat this game is dead ass for real looks-maxed, we're cooked.
>>584892452maybe it's not a question, but an inception? he wants us to reminisce about how we once learned to code, to plant a seed that will pull us away from our evil ways(using AI?)
>>584890503He's posting proggy at least
making a sega genesis style game has never been easier
>>58489268467 911 go to heaven
>>584892159A more interesting angle might be these "fantasy consoles" like PICO-8. Very cheap to execute and straight-forward to program, but you got a well-maintained cross-platform executor underneath.
>>584892845good enough. lets see some enemies and a character/ship?
>>584892159>Is there a way to learn BASIC to make games for it on modern hardware?qbasic and youtube tutorials? read a book from your local library and then do not steal it o algo
>>584892957prompt?
>>584893219"pico-8 gif" in google image search
>>584893445so you used AI...
>>584892957there needs to be a pico16, so the games could actually be appealing to players.
>>584890130Any oldfags here from before 2020? How was AGDG before AI and the coof?
>>584893715it was nice
>>584893486I got ya
what went wrong?
>>584893894>phone garbage
>>584893905Car always pointing same angle
>>584890130Any jobby can only be comfy while you're still a clueless dunning-kruger bumbling retard. Once you begin to fathom the depths of skill and effort required to make decent video games, gamedev can no longer be comfy. You've eaten the forbidden fruit of knowledge. You've opened pandora's box.>>584890305sasuga cris
>>584889173I added particle effects depending on the surface each wheel is touching, looks like ass but works well
>>584893905>Oregon trail pretending to be a racing gameComplete genre mashup failure. It's like combining orange juice with toothpaste and wondering why no one likes it.
>>584894219mind if I steal that car?
>>584894179>Once you begin to fathom the depths of skill and effort required to make decent video games, gamedev can no longer be comfy. You've eaten the forbidden fruit of knowledge. You've opened pandora's box.>Is that som ehekkin effort ?!?!?! NOOOOO I DIDNT DROP OUT OF COLLEGE FOR THIS pftthahaha. even funnier since most video games rely purely on art and visuals and AI can fix all the code. Welcome to the millenial Pandora Nigga Box, you work/play/read/etc 16 hours a day minimum or you don't (you don't). This is why Zoomtards and modern white people will always be a fucking failure of a generation. You don't have what it takes, weak men.
>>584889173Tried to implement some "move while attack is on cooldown" shenanigans (note: both enemies and character are moving on their own). Still not happy with it, I will try to use collision shapes instead of raycasts.
I am making my fetish sex anime hentai visual novel tactical xcom clone with AI and I am putting in incest and rape into it and this is basically my ideal dream game and it will be free because I dont give a fuck about getting money for this. If one more person enjoys it just as I do making it, then that is a net gain. Claude is finally allowing it to make it into a reality.
>>584892957I can't find a pirated bundle on the internet
>>584895161May I see it?
>>584895161>Claude>allowing fetish sex anime hentailollmao even
>>584893905>don't add anime girls>wonders what happened
AI still can't make animated sprites.>BUT BUTNo, I already checked.AI can't do it without a 32GB GPU.
>>584893013
>>584895663the japs are doing it though.workflow issue
>>584895663Why don't you have a 32GB GPU? What are you poor or something?
>>584896041link?>BUT YOU NEED TO USE THESE PAID WEBSITESNo paying for your pajeet products, ramshit.
>>584896128the mentally ill colombian that's not allowed to work is indeed poor
>>584895525I am writing the story and the art, claude is used for coding and 3d modeling/texturing only.>>584895478I don't have spicy images generated, and I am making it a slow burner. Writing is easy if you actually enjoy it. Here is some gameplay from the latest feature testing map. https://streamable.com/ixfjxu
>>584895663You can get two 16gb 5060ti's for cheap these days
give gamers what they want
>>584896298Oh I expected something lewder but good job, gameplay looks pretty complex.
>>584896128help! first world sir!
>>584892845>>584895941Zamn that looks really nice
>>584896298gameplay looks like a copy of already existing games. The sound effects and HUD are the default claude slop.Can you even write?
>>584895530then explain this
>>584896723gamers want a new level kanna
>>584896870eyes too small, reads like american """anime"""
>>584896870This is a bad game, I can tell this by the amount of reviews
I try to draw and 30 seconds after drawing I start to feel physically sick.can't gamedev like that.
>>584897047it's actually up to two reviews now and they're both positive
>>584897052Do you also get sick from writing on paper/drawing on paper or just doing digital art? Maybe there is some solution to circumvent the issue.
>>584897052you destroyed your tolerance for working + probably have attention-span problems now.You need to build up your tolerance and start training again like Lee
>>584897052Drawing isn't a prerequisite to gamedev.
>>584897119i got double that, nerd
>>584894513Not at all, there's better ones out there though!
>>584897213It's a panic reaction.
>>584896759How can I help? I have a stack of about a dozen spare A4000/A5000/A6000s at work.
>>584897372possibly that too, overwhelmed / panic
gamedeving in my bed and my mom just brought me breakfast. I'm not even sick or anything, just don't feel like getting upI'm 35 years old and I have the gall to complain about how my life is shit
>>584897453I used to be able to draw non stop for 16 hours.can't draw now.
>>584897504Same but with my grandma and im 26.
>>584896747Thanks, I am just collecting features I really like from other games and combining them into one. I like dating sim aspects, tactical military stuff, war on terror aesthetics, getting ranks(S to F, the usual). Will post more when I have more to show, currently this is the only gameplay. I am almost done writing the first week of the story(imagine it like persona's calendar system), and it is just getting out of hand scope wise, but since this is literally a side project/hobby next to my real job, I don't really mind.
Anyone kicking themselves in the balls for being a lazy piece of shit? Had I finished my games years ago, I would have been rich by now, because Steam was free ride essentially for properly designed games, but now that that ship sailed, the chances of making it are close to none, everything collapsed within just the few past months.
Idea kings won and there's nothing any of you can do about it
>>584898512
>>584898512that's like saying if you approached that girl 10 years ago you'd now have a happy family. it's never that easy and success was always very unlikely
>>584898761best post ITT
AI is a ponzi scheme to sell cloud services.>But localLocal can't do shit unles you buy a 10k gpu
>>584889816brown coded post
>>584898849That's not what ponzi scheme means, retard. I think you mean to say rat race or race to the bottom. You either buy my cloud services, or you get outcompete by those who do.
can i use vroid studio for game models?
>>584897340Nice! (Not sarcastic here)
>>584899403You can, but they look like shit. See Maid Cafe.
I'm going to work on my game now. You may wish me luck.
>oh boohoo I'm so lazy woe is me the end is near>no I will not use AI because, uhm, no okay>no I will not fix myself either I'll just complain>ur game is not real anyways!!!!with that out of the way: proggy!>>584889173So supposedly it's not that easy to do 'good' terrain deformation nowadays, there's an old lib from '22 that hasn't been updated since and so... yeah.Anyways, it's not quite there yet, I think everything occurs too fast, we need to delay the impact, the explosion, then the shockwave, then the smoke (disabled it here otherwise we can't see shit), I guess?And buildings need to fly off in bits as well, it's going to take a few attempts, pretty exciting to work on it tho. I love destruction in games, should be more common.>>584899660Good luck!
my prompting has already gotten better 10 fold just over the past week
>>584899660Imposter
Current Cris mental loop>basic (Subhuman Champion, Pong, Popeye, KOF) remake in A, B, C, D, E, F engines>"I give up, gamedev take too long" spamming over several boards>interactive story with roguelike screen uploaded to a webserver>"It's impossible to make money with a website" spamming>"AI is great, look what I did" spamming>>584812679 >>584815070>conjoined fetishistic spamming>>584818984>"AI sucks" spammingYou are here /\
>>584899919Looks fun. Should just make it a sports ball game instead and make more money.
/no-AI/ sundays.
>>584899403Illusive domain started with vroid models. The dev shared some resources he used back in the day. He switched to custom models some aggy anon made for him.
>>584899919>game freezes from the engine struggling to instantiate, so you can't even appreciate your spell spawning yikes
>>584895941why hasn't anyone made sonic-like platformers yet?
>+1 units sold
>he has raging recently divorced guy energy>thinks he's not going to get fucked like everybody else just because he hasn't been fucked yet
>>584894179It was comfy knowing at some point that you only had to make a good game, and players will market it for you through word of mouth because there were only like 10 games released a day on Steam (in 2016).Now that's no longer viable and you either have to spend money on marketing yourself or do online jestering, which is less comfy for the usual autists inhabiting these places, but probably better for social oriented people who like putting their faces in youtube videos and making tiktok shorts and stuff like that.Times are not better or worse objectively but only subjectively depending on what you're innately comfortable with doing.
>>584899919thanks, fren.>>584899996I uh wym?
>>584900192people don't actually like them, sonic autists just like sonic the character
>>584900413b-bundev?
>>584900112I'm not going to say that sounds boring, but I'll let you make that spin off, okay?I have no real interest in making sports games desu>>584900185You realize this is an easy fix right?(don't answer this, I know you don't realize that, you're a nodev), but you're right, I'll separate the rendering from the main physics thread, that'll make for something smoother even though it's obviously not what the priority should be but that's like, phew, asking you thurdies to have project management skills ON TOP of understanding technical details, like yikes indeed...we truly live in a blessed timeline, thank you lord
>>584900413>It was comfy knowing at some point that you only had to make any random shovelware, and players will market it for you through word of mouth because there were only like 10 games released a day on Steam (in 2016).>Now that's no longer viable and you actually have to make a good gameFIFY
>>584900586>You realize this is an easy fix right?then why not have grok fix it immediately while you start on the next thing?Why let tech debt stack up? I thought you were a scrum master?
>>584900550N-No, sorry, I just saved his bun pics.
>>584890130wdym i dont feel this comfy since 2020
>>584891087people really need to adjust their expectationsnot every AI assisted projects are AI slopdont put AI assisted coding (coding will never be an art) together with the third world cloners
>>584891087>of course new trend is good for gaming>look at all these old trends, all of which made games worse
>>584899919>full of stuttersAI sloppa alright
>>584890130I do kind of agree with this. Sitting down, booting up my IDE and ideas page, and just getting to work was a much better feeling then trying lots of ideas, and pulling out what doesn't work.
>>584899919The land is too flat. I get that it's farmland and you're lazy, but add some variety.
>>584901584>>584901243>don't like that he's using AI sloppa >give him feedback (for free) to make the game better???I don't get you fags sometimes.
Progress:Didnt shower in 3 days
>>584898849>Local can't do shit unles you buy a 10k gpuWorks on my machine
>>584902478stutter being bad and the game stuttering can be seen in the video, it doesnt take a genius to understand he needs to fix that, you fucking retard
>>584902478>actual humans are well-intentioned and not zero-sum>this literally confuses the sloppers
>>584902478He's an animeposter he has the pass
>>584891087Isn't Kenney trooning out? Iirc he doesn't even have a game. Yet Timmy? Fortnite, maybe more idk. Gabe? Various games.
>>584891087Based fucking Timmy dunking on this loser. Kenney really thinks he's all that just because he is popular in the niche indie gamedev youtube scene wew.
>>584903847He's a shovel salesman and has made way more money than you ever will.
>>584904071Terrible attempt Kenney, trying to slur yourself and then claiming you're better than me so as to appear like you're not Kenney is a classic trick.t. Master TricksterYou have lame shovels that are free to mostly failure gamedevs. I have a 2000 review game with fangirls. We are not the same.
what if you played someone's demo and really liked it, you had a fun time, but then you find out the code and assets were AI.how would it make you feel? surprised, angry, betrayed? maybe a little excited at how convincing it was? or doesn't matter at all as long as you had fun :)
>>584904359>you had a fun time, but then you find out the code and assets were AI.contradictory things so it would never be a problem
>>584889173Are attack indicators the yellow paint of combat? Turned off hitstun for enemies when you're not upgraded. It kind of makes combat a bit boring when they're just punching bags. Though the combat is still simple either way.
So why does Spurdo dev keep jumping between projects? I'm curious as to why he just doesn't finish any one of the games he makes nowadays. After Spurdo it's like he just became incapable of finishing a game. Almost as of something changed internally, an expectation perhaps? I get the feeling I have a similar issue. A certain expectation that influences my development.
>>584904662Red flashes are what NieR does and people aren't critical enough to call it prescribed combat.
>>584905112Idk about the spurdo dev, but that abstract feeling you're describing is unironically called being spoiled.
>>584904662we call it T E L E GRA PHS
my main achievement is that I was born a white man in a first world countrytherefore I will make itbuying claude max subscription today
>>584905112>expectation perhaps?I assume so. You also see guys like why485 and a327ex posting prototypes and then dropping them.
*sigh* guess it is time to learn 3D modeling. What's the absolute shittiest I can get awat with?
>>584906050based, good luck anon, make something fun!
>>584905112I only saw the Klonoa clone. What other games is he working on?
>>584906136just ask claude to do it
how do i get good at character design?
>>584906136synty
>>584906136Lowpoly with some pixelart textures slopped ontop is the easiest. It also lets you get away with shitty simple animations.
yes, yes, keep fighting over me, feel it swell within your breast(male)anyways, while I'm stuck blendering fixing stupid hairdos, the clankers are fixing everything, hurray!>>584904662The only metroidvania I've ever really enjoyed was valdis story, because the combat in it was 10/10.I think indicators are fine, just like yellow paint: the point is that you don't want it to be an indicator, you don't wan't it to be yellow paint, you want it to make sense in-universe.Portal 2's 'yellow paint' was seen as the summit of level design for years because it's not yellow paint, it's smarter than this.I think for a game that's very high energy like yours, you'll probably want a mix of telegraphed attack patterns and sounds, sounds are EXTREMELY important for these things tbqh, way more than visuals are. >>584905112Fear of failure, probably, and tied to what you just said; 'what if my new game doesn't meet the expectations of the first one' etc etc. A lot of devs are foreveralone autists and they're very low self confidence, that makes for a very tricky road to success, idk.
>>584906050white hands wrote this post
>>584906050Good, don't let the troons and seething turdies convince you this isn't the right way to do things.>>584906317keep going?
Is posible to use comfyui and Krita and an AI agent to draw sprites?
>>584906165He has had>Dobumon>WarpboundAnd like 2 or 3 other unnamed games>unnamed 3d game that looks like an open world rpg>gta like
>>584907401Open your mouth wide babbyhttps://github.com/diivi/aseprite-mcp
>>584907401Everything's possible, why krita specifically though?Might not be the easiest to do, ask gemini (but even gemini might be too retarded for it) Here's what argon said, obviously ignore the 24gb vram, you don't have a 4090, but that should only slow down the process, not make it impossible.
>>584908115Been thinking if I can set up blender mcp to make the characters from concept art.
>>584905723>but that abstract feeling you're describing is unironically called being spoiled.Tell me more>>584906056I have a certain quality bar I want them to reach but then time and time again I find those outliers.>just uses a low quality 2D style>succeeds>low quality 3D style + very poorly designed environment>succeedsIt should inspire hopium yet I can't bring myself to reducing my games quality like that. Though in the former case my art sucked switching out to a style like that would've made development faster and easier to handle. In the latter I just can't do it, the style just looks cheap despite the success. I want my game to be remembered for decades after release, not forgotten the moment the dopamine runs out and all you're left with is ugly graphics and poorly put together gameplay that worked well enough for the dopamine.
>The tripfag wants companies to burn even though they're as pro-AI as he is
>>584908501cope however you like homeboywe aren't going back no matter how much you kick and scream
>>584904662Haven't seen this game in a hot minute.
Put me in charge of v3 so I can execute all of the AIfags on stream for 1000s of views
how can i create images using opencode
>>584907969does this work with libresprite
>>584908320I'm thinking that, if it was possible, it'd be all over twitter or something, or even better, someone would be selling it as a service in one way or another, and I haven't really seen it, but for all we know you might think of a specific way to make it work, who knows
>>584908948claude pls make this work with libresprite>>584909119https://x.com/SebAaltonen/status/2103523565295603818
>>584908863Noice, are you also making a wall punching clone to add to the pile?I already got Claude working on it, hopefully I can finish before the year ends.
>>584891087>Up yours!
Fuck this company. > have a genuinely interesting book about designing game mechanics and economies.> make a free to use flash tool that even lets you design your own economies before you make them in a game to make sure the math ain't too retarded. > AI boom> go schitzo insane and remove the flash version of the game and make a complete AI version. > AI version is alright, ai kinda of even helps when its not hallucinating> you now have to pay tokens every time you test out your economy> not use the AI, TEST IF YOUR OWN DIAGRAM WORKS. I don't know if I'm expressing this right or if anyone here knows this program. But I legit just wanted a tool to design a state machine to work on my in game economy. But I realise later that this shitty website when you run out of tokens you can't even just run the tool once. Every iteration that it can track and test just uses more tokens.
>try to put my homie on>they call me a schizo yeah never ever talk about your projects ever
>>584909751>fell for the SaaS meme
>>584909412I got 20% left in 30m and I cannot make it work faster for my shit so I'll just tell it to do it, but it'll probably just be one shot and no fixing whatever comes out, good luck.
>>584909935ah shit, I'm going to have to reinstall comfyui etc, yeah that won't cut it for 30m, too short, but I guess I can keep it working overtime, it's not like I'll get to use my 100% quota next week anyways, and I'm also interested in the idea...
>>584906782>Valdis StoryGotta look into that. Just aiming for a simple, but nice feeling combat. Most Castlevanias feel nice thanks to the whip.>you want it to make sense in-universe.True. I might change it from a red ! to something like the pink horns the player gets.>sounds are EXTREMELY importantIt is. Once I get more sounds added I'll find something distinct for enemy attacks.>>584908701I post ever so often, but not every thread. They tend to move fast and I don't usually have substantial progress to post.
lmao, this is garbage, wtf, lol.
>>584910316its one of the better models you've made!
>>584910316cunny sexo
>>584899919What happened to the ass blaster game
The irrational hatred for web tech in this thread is retarded. You should be praying for their success. If someone makes an open source library with notes on how they did it to give hyper optimized tech that runs in browser, that's good for everyone because other engine devs can copy their homework and make it even more performant in native outside of browser. Example being three.js developing meshlets, an open version of nanite that runs in browser flawlessly. Not even a month later the Godot webGPU fork guy had it in his fork running even better. We should all be giving our spirit energy to the guy trying to build lightweight raytracing in top of meshlets. If he succeeds other engines can copy it and we can finally escape this Unreal monopoly for every Triple A game.
>>584910316AI finest
>>584909412>>584910316why are idiots so hung up on this workflow instead of using tripo?
>>584910609tripo cost money and can't do naked anime girls.
>>584910316Yea? But it only took 10 seconds to be made.Why spend 10 days making a great model if you can just spend 10 seconds to create a shit one? Do the math, it's the same.Prove me wrong, chuddies.#BTFOed
AI really did kill the zukowskicunt meta. You can no longer just make a gimmickslop small scoped game, because a hindu with claude can just clone your game in a day now and steal all your money. You HAVE to make bigger scale and scoped game now. Zukjeet lost epically.
>>584910816Or slop it yourself first
I'm still using blender 2.8...... I don't want to move all my config stuff over.
>>584910965yeah if you wanna be down in the gutters fighting with a billion indians for scraps. non subhumans should be making polished big games.
>>584910816Gimmick games were ALWAYS zoomer garbage made for mobile and they only served as streamer slop.We were never part of it to begin with.
>>584910816You should instead slopsnipe yourself. Set up claude agents sniffing xitter 24/7 for gamedev tags etc and for any post that gains traction make the agent autonomously learn as much as it can about the game being posted by analyzing all poster's socials and make a clone while you sleep then you playtest and ship.
>>584910730those are not very good reasons especially since you aren't getting results anywaygamedevs are just low iq apparently
>>584910493>we can finally escape this Unreal monopoly for every Triple A gameNobody here is making triple A games bro.
>>584910965You don't get it. The point isn't in whether you use AI yourself in your project or don't. The point is that you literally cannot talk about a small-scope game now unless you are literally ready to release it the next day the post goes live. And that's what zukowskicunt meta was. He went on a lot about drumming up hype for your game by posting about it a lot (in addition among many other things) and was heavily in on making gimmick sloppa. But claude just killed all that.
>>584911167Tripo requires to be sucribed to their yearly plan to export.
Over 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.About 700 games in the week around your release.AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2026HahahahahaH O B B YOBBY
>>584911139You are talking to a bunch of jeets who see nothing wrong with the subhuman lifestyle
>>584911307>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2026No one actually believe this. And you can tell the ones that do are fucking retards, the ones that post claude slop thinking it's going to sell a single copy. No artistry no game.
AND YET I DEV.
>>584911453>No one actually believe this.There are retards literally quitting their good paying jobs and banking all their savings on finishing the game before they run out of money and becoming a millionaire on release. People are fucking stupid.
Well there we go, no more stuttering, even better destruction, bravo, that was so much work.Anyways, onto more important matters now.>>584910483Uh, which one is that?Theatre of Steel: I'm 'stuck' doing a lot of balancing and trying to get a right in between for 'player can have fun piloting his mech' while also giving importance to his units and him controlling them and telling them what to do, it's just a lot of edge case bullshit and me having to sit down and play it for a while and think of ways to fix it, not very easy.SCAV: I'm merging a lot of systems together, which takes time, we also ran into a couple of godot 4.8 issues (but nothing crazy), I'm adding fog as well for specific mission types to force reduced visibility. Also the big boy/giant mob needs to be worked on, he's in the fridge, I need to sit down and think about how to add him in correctly; I want a fun dynamic door breaking system where the enemies have to actually hit the doors to break through and make them fly off, and I want the player's plasma cutter to be able to cut through them etc. Lots of work. This one: It's by far the most ambitious one because I have many different ways I can and want to take it, I really just wanted it to be a tech demo and a testbed to see if the idea could work: I think it can, it feels fun to fly already and I barely spent time fixing all the systems yet, so I think I'm onto something fun. I'll see. I have so, so, so many design systems to think about, I already reworked the magic system 4 times, so, yeah.TBDSo I don't know if you're thinking of something else.
>>584911560Most of those people just want to actualize and feel free/adventurous, but they still have to frame it around money so it's not completely ridiculous.
post some slop
>>584910816this is such a stupid way to see itif the jeet can afford a claude sub; why can't you?if you have the idea yourself, then you're obviously smarter than the jeet, so can you not make a better game using claude AND the idea in the first place?god you people really are never going to make it, you are so, so lost
>>584911307I'll do itYou'll see
>>584908432>I find those outliers.Your IQ is too low to see past the immediately obvious visuals.
>>584911560even before AI indie gamedev was a gamble.
>>584911139You're going to do that regardless if you're in agdg retard. This is for indie devs. Everything we make is recreatable scraps.You'd need a massive studio to do otherwise. Or a crew of 30 people and Unreal Engine, in Palworld and Expedition 33's case.
>>584912218not anymore
>>584910816Based. Total minigame and friendslop death.
>>584911168Not yet. But once triple a tier rendering for cheap is cracked by the three.js Chads, we'll all be a prompt away from starting our triple A tier dream games.
>>584912218>a crew of 30 peoplea crew of 1 claude outperforms them, and is cheaper
>>584911702oh yea? but the ai looks bad and there is no game haha #commomludditew
>>584908863>probably 1 month in development>>584909479>zoomer somehow makes a complete and non-AI clone in 25 hoursWhat do I lack that these people have? How are they so fast!
>>584912514So made a game that gets millions of concurrents like Palworld or win Game of the Year like Expedition 33 then if all you need is Claude. Go ahead.
>>584912218You will be shitting your pants uncontrollably by this time next year. Just utterly clueless as to what's coming.
>>584911702Effects are too large, explosion is too big, too much smoke. It makes it all a big mess.You need to tone it down, or show some small explosions before the big one. It's like in band where if you start playing at your loudest, you can't get any louder for the fortississimo moments.
I'll just come out and say itthere is no point in doing gamedev if you can't earn money from it and soon because of AI there won't be a way to make money from it
I'll just come out and say itwe are at the stage where people are starting to realize that not everyone is able to get the same results out of AI and that's the real reason it is causing so much seethe
>there is no point in playing guitar if you can't earn money from itit's called a Hobby, babe
>>584912602Opus.
>>584912602
>>584913041there's no point in playing the guitar if you can't get money or pussy from itsorry that's just facts>>584912974>hey claude, copy that game but make it betterbetter results, very simple
Let's create the agdg-slop-machine studio>each member gives an idea>each member creates a prototype of its favourite ideas>team decide what game will be made>team decide what to do>each member iterates over the current game>team decide which one is better and merge cool features>iterate and decide until game is done
>>584911896
>>584910286>Check out my game about dashing, parkour, melee combat, gunplay, and momentumMECHANICAL DARWINISM at its finest
You may not like it but this is what the future of Videogames will look like.
About 2 thousand dollars deep into genning art assets for my game
>>584913776wow your game must look great now anon?
>>584913685that shi fire fr
>>584913685Would.>>584913776May I see some?
The true end of all game dev will be when spawn.co and Castellano's three.js renderer are completed and converged next year. Mark my words. An engine where multiple people can just create whatever they want in three.js, but the renderer that outperforms Unreal's nanite and raytracing in a fucking mobile browser?It's all cooked.https://x.com/jsnnsa/status/2105568049428607411https://x.com/CastellanoWorks/status/2110784317475504505
>>584909919Nah, the devs of this tool fell for the SaaS meme. You can vibe code a replacement for the tool. I wouldn't even need to if they just made running basic iterations free by running on my local PC. charging me to press "play once really slow" was too much. So fuck em.
>>584913832>>584913885I think it looks pretty good but I'm also not an art autist so I'm sure it has lots of little flaws I'm missing, the game will be done for sure (and hopefully released) by the end of the month so I won't spoil it for now
>>584913907gamedevs don't want their games running in web browsers. proof? almost any 2D game could have ran in a web browser going years back
Reasons I'm not stressed about AI game devs/AI making game development have no entry barrier is because video editing tools have been free and powerful for years now and still 99% of people don't edit their own videos and I managed to carve out a financially viable niche with it, so I can do the same with gaming for sure
>>584910816Zukjeet bros I cant wait for the new meta to drop how am I supposed to make a gaem now
>>584914160Except Runescape was a browser game and made billions before Java discontinued. The big problem wasn't the browser. It's games started getting so big it was no longer optimal to just have users download the game every time they want to play it. Except now OPFS exists and you can download browser game assets locally. It's as simple as the dev creating a "Like the game? Download it!" Button and using basic versioning library to keep the files updated in chunks.
>>584914425The meta is to create a 1 year long project but in 2 months using AI.
>>584910816>>584914425The meta is the same today as it was tens years ago as it will be ten years from now. Just like make good fun games that people want to play.
>>584914425the future meta is games that are resistant/immune to over-saturation
>>584914179in case of video, the analogous development would be AI gen'd videos, not video editors.
Working on the upgrade menu
>>584914634is that pic meant to be taken seriously? stupidest shit I've ever heard
>>584914660You'd think that but I haven't seen any AI videos that overlap with the intent/appeal of video editing.
>>584914635>the meta is having to make real games againIt's over...
>>584914634I was thinking about that. Wasn't it common practice in like the 80s and 90s that when games were more abstract and simplistic people would constantly rip off and pirate each other. Like it would be a paid for simple 2d ball game bouncing around the screen and someone would just remake it and distribute the code for free.Like Tim schafer admitted when he got intereviewed for a job at lucas arts he admitted he played a pirated version of one of their games. But "pirated" meant someone stole the mechanics and made a simpler version.
>>584911560My biggest gripe are the "haves" who somehow just landed cushy $150k, $300k, or even $450k salary jobs right out of college and then they go>Woe is me!>I am but a meager serf in this cyberpunk dystopia.>Hardship day in, day out.>But today, month 1 into my first job I shall break free of my decade long prison of a cage and....>Make a video game for the next 5 years that will earn me $1m so I can be free forever!Get back in the cage you melodramatic attention seeking losers. 4 years at $300k and you already made more than $1m gross. The dream jobs they sold you in elementary school are not gonna happen. You will not be the famous and rich (only two of these actually get both)>rockstar>astronaut>king>doctor (that doesn't do any work and somehow just heals people)Here is your cuckible. Sit in it do your fucking work. Just like they used picture books to lure you in, so they did with "careers" (jobs).But the audacity of these types to lament their jobs and then in the same sentence say the job is great? Fuck out of here. Probably a liar too.>I uhhhhh am a 22 year old girl living life in tutorial mode and FEEL like my life is going nowhere in this job I LOVE, trust. I really really LOVE my job and everyone there is like GREAT but I FEEL like I need something more!
>>584914954https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoNnbz237E0
>>584915167that's what the lower tier devs did yeah
>>584915132you've been grinding game design all this time though right? that skill is still very valuable!
>>584912974Kek yeah probably this. One anon can prompt out a full on screen to gif application another has no clue how. Though cloning is still an issue.
>>584915230...or the ones that have a full remote job that pays couple hundred thousand where they were told to use Claude and they complain "oh no my job is now to instruct the clanker so I only have to work 10 minutes a day to get paid $50k/month, life sucks, this isn't how I imagined my software engineering job :(".
>>584914585Browser games aren't a technical problem. It's a tradeoff between player accessibility and the developer's ability to monetize. Most devs figure that Steam is the sweet spot where it's still highly accessible (95%+ of PC gamers are three clicks and a 30 second download away from paying money for your game and having it downloaded and booted). Meanwhile, as a teenager, I had spent over a hundred hours fishing lobsters at f2p Karamja before I finally bit the bullet and mailed in a money order in order to pay for membership.
>>584913640I like to add stuff I want to play with...
ok just gooned. Back to prompting.
>>584912678It's... kind of the point, the big idea was to show a very large explosion and the effect on the world.BUT, you know what? You're right again, let's do that more cleanly. This is probably much better, though we're not perfect yet, well I can't exactly give this project all the attention it deserves (that I want to give it) because it'll take a lot longer to be made in the way I want it to be made than the others, so I need to focus on the others first.
>>584914634Fuark look at his stance! Based based based!
>>584915286That's cool but I am referring to edits like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErBpk4A8lo4
>Me hitting enter on a prompt that is costing me 50+ tokens because its 4k resolution but there's a 25% chance it fucks something up
>>584915528>accessibility Everyone has a browser>make moneySolved problem since the 90s nigga you never heard of Ebay? Online transactions are a thing.
When nodevs finally understand that you can iterate over their shitty vibecoded prototypes to make them better nothing will change because they dont want to make a game.
I am doing it
>>584916058prompt a sonichu game
>>584915912Bro just learn to photoshop. Why keep gambling with your tokens when you know EXACTLY what you want it to do? Is it really worth a regen?
>>584909479>sloppers cloning sloppers>>584891087I love how timmy shots himself on the foot every time he says something, why are you so mad timmy?
>>584916058tell grok to fix your parallax jitter
>>584916058>sonic ocs will now have their own authentic 32x gamesnot sure how to feel about this one
>>584914914>>584915664We must ensure the crafty buildy survival of the PC gamer master race.
Has anyone does an analysis on what kind of genres sell best on Steam?
>>5849167122d pixel platformers
>>584916186you lost 'dite
>>584916712I've never seen an analysis that accounts for how many games are made in each genre (how saturated it is)
>>584915401Shit pisses me off. Life on easy mode and they are mad? Sucks I can't get those jobs. Unlike them I literally am stuck needing to make gamedev work out.
>>584916712>>584916918
>>584891748game when he takes 30% from your game that sold 10 copies.
What happened to Dreams of Joy Departed?
>>584916712Kind of hard to identify because steam keeps that stuff hidden and there are third party tools that try to track that stuff. e.g. Steam spy. They do it by tracking the live player counts of games, review numbers and every player that has a public profile. But all the good sites are paywalled. But check out VGinsights steamdb and steamspy
>>584916918https://games-stats.com/steam/tags/
>>584917002How's the earning measured? I'm assuming it counts DLCs?That's the only reason I'd expect 4X to earn so much more, because those usually have dozens of DLCs that are nearly full price, and their communities love their games so much they don't care (stellaris, total war, civ, etc)I'm... confused as to how there's 4-5x more RTS games being made than souls-like, but I guess tags are pretty much meaningless nowadays.
Is there any reason not to also publish your game on Epic alongside Steam?
>>584916712>>584916918https://github.com/a327ex/steam-market/blob/main/reports/02-tag-scan.md
>>584914634>Just like make good fun games that people want to play.How tho
>>584917720needless effort, you won't get any sales anyway
>>584917601What the fuck, musou game is the way???>>584917720No, you should do it, they're two different audiences with different tastes in games.There are games that find success in EGS and not on steam.
>>584917676>I'm... confused as to how there's 4-5x more RTS games being made than souls-like, but I guess tags are pretty much meaningless nowadays.Yep. Try finding an actual ("classic") RTS on Steam. Maybe 4/year are released. The rest is somewhat strategical games that are at least not turn-based... which covers a rather larger area.
>>584917601steam tags are raped and unreliable
>>584917920Wait I just realized:>well-written>revenue median = revenue average>50% of them sell for 0-5k USDSo... they're not that 'well-written' huh?Or maybe there's a study to be made about the failed ones: I'm assuming the ones that failed are in fact well written, but the genre of the game is aimed at people that really do not give a fuck about lore and stories me
>>584917886Cringiest nerdiest answer, theres a logic and "feel" to game design. You can't tell an AI to make an RPG without if fucking up the basic combat economy. You can't ask an AI to make a fighting game and expect it to perfectly balance the game and fix the timings of each hit. Think about your favourite game that you're autistic about. Try to recreate it, notice that what you make isn't EXACTLY what that original game felt like. You fucked up an animation so it looks weird. The character feels clunky when he moves. Thats the shit that a lazy AI dev won't implement unless he knows specifically what to ask for. You do, you lazy fuck.
>>584917920Survivors-likes aka Bullet Heavens are arguably indie Mosou. Only high production value games based on already popular Japanese IPs are tagged "Mosou".>>584918119There's a lot of noise, but you can try to filter through it.
I don't want to make proggy today.
>>584917886>How tho
>>584917886Think of a game you like, put your own spin on it, it's actually just that simple
>>584918416>Survivors-likes aka Bullet Heavens are arguably indie Mosou.But that's not how people tag those games on steam, and those studies are based on steam's stats, baka. There's not a single bullet hell/heaven game in the top rated of the musou categories, though there's a couple of (completely unknown) ones, but not highly rated and definitely not selling well ones. >>584918445Tell me about the twin train conductors.
This will be the one.
>>584919516>godothello saar i program gotot too
>>584919516I personally am waiting until next year for the webgpu fork guy to port raytracing to his meshlet from the 3js project
extracting the progress from maso gamedevs
Check out my new game!
We can use a virtual slave to work on our games and we still waste our time here on /agdg/How can we solve this?
>>584919983got that claude stink
>>584920028...? No, we are shitposting on /agdg/ while the virtual slave is working.
>>584920051That's ok, I've already moved onto a new project!
Since progress feels floaty>ice nova>still feels floatly. Will try add damage particles onto enemies later>and freeze them too>still feels floaty
>>584919983>>584920176>posting OTHER people's slop
>>584920287No it's all mine!
>>584910609>tripogarbage, claude makes better models if you fiddle with it. tripo is trash for people to go WOW SO COOL instead of making usable models for the game
Claude might be cooking, idk yet.
>>584920845proof?
>>584920346Is this KSP but combat drones?I'm buying it, just so you know, but you gotta finish it.
>>584921148wow im sure i can do a lot with this shitty model. like its literally so shitty it cant be fixed
>>584920241What do you mean by floaty? I'm seeing a lack of feedback on the enemies getting hit, like they don't react at all but that's just how mmos are aren't they?
how do i give gamers what they want?
>>584921334meanwhile Claude can model scenes like this. A complete working building kit that you can even make your own stuff with. itll have a hard time making lets a gun or a car at first, but if you give it references and play with it itll do anything
daily reminder that in about 2-4 years game devs will have become fully obsolete since everyone will be able to make a complete, high-quality game fully automated using AItime is running out
Where is your progress pogo
>>584921697Correct. If you're not running multiple agents right now furiously typing prompts to make it within the next 6-10 months, you're never going to make it in gamedev. The only people who will be make it in the future will be the ones that already had big releases/IP (think SV, Terraria, Blizzard, Activision etc) who will be able to shit out games in their own IP and shill it to their audiences which will always sell.
>>584921697>in about 2-4 yearsfar sooner than that
>>584921637what DAZ pack is this?
>>584921334A car is so complex it needs to be gen'd piece by piece. There's a workflow for this.
Stop dooming. The number of good games stays relatively the same regardless of how many games get published. WAGMI.
>>584921697Daily reminder that the internet will be un-useable in 2-4 years because self replicating and self-improving AI worms will take over the hardware of anything that connects to the internet
>>584921637>hard surface modelling
>>584922065we are being attacked from all angles
I'm inventing a genre and fixing another one
>>584921697u can't wait for that huh? Daddy claude is pounding your tiny sissy clitty tonight
>>584921697nobody wants to do thatyou could play roguelikes for eternity but there was always demand for rpgs because people want hand crafted content with a visionpizza is fun because you don't eat it for every meal every day. there is no happy without sad.
>>584922041>the number of games the market is able to support stays the same regardless of qualityftfy
>>584921870i don't think socurrently AI can do a lot of work but still a lot of manual input is needed, also if you try to go for "agentic systems" you can end up blowing thousands of dollars away so you are confined to the basic "chat"-window also most people are very slow to catch up, still see gamedev using chatgpt-slop-images that were "state of the art" in like 2023 for their ingame assets>>584921862i dont get the obession with agents basic chatgpt is all you need for making a game within 2 weeks that previously took 2 years agents seem like a huge risk finanically, like I don't want to waste 3k for API calls
>>584922436nigger what agents run in the subscription model too
>>584921463megusaki ghost!!!
>>584922436dis nigga talkin bout people are slow to adapt while he still in chat mode
>>584922285I eat pizza for every meal dougbit
>streamers with hundreds of thousands of subscribers have played my game>I still feel like I'm ngmiwhy?
>>584921697no.the kojima visionary bros won. and will stay winning. you must know the ins and outs of how to make the game fun. i wouldn't be to make a good grand strategy regardless of how good the software is because i never played the genre
>>584922605>megusaki
>>584921375>a lack of feedback on the enemies getting hit,This is what I meant. Also some other stuff but I will almost certainly hit next demo day which will help if anons play it.>they don't react at all but that's just how mmos are aren't they?Thank you, this is helpful.
>>584922041>>584922335i like games from the pre-2020 areaso many games that look outright bad used to sell tens of thousands of units, similar games in present day don't sell at allthen again quality if probably relative today you have acess to better tools so everyone expects higher qualityif you deliver "old"-quality with "modern"-tools you will more likely flop
>>584922781>Doesn't know
>>584922645> still in chat modeI will NOT use the APi (because I cant use it because I have no credit card lol) >>584922729>i wouldn't be to make a good grand strategy regardless of how good the software is because i never played the genrehm ...have you ever used the "pain bucket tool" in paint?
>>584922985UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH THOSE FEET
GTA 3 tier games will be the minimum to sell from now on due to AI.
>>584923215so the bar has been lowered.
>>584922065>the only way to sell games is physical destribution and only lan multyplayer so no need in anticheat and client-side predictionThe future is brighter than it appears
which orc head looks the best?
Okay, uhm, this is pretty good?The model it pumped out looks like shit, but when it finishes rendering and pumps this out...?Like, this looks very good does it not? I didn't touch it at all past my first prompt, it chose a witch I'm assuming because I called the project puretty sprites (like puretty witch, which we were working on the side), I guess? But I didn't tell it to pick this or anything. And this is the very first render of it, no swiping or anything.
>>584923565middle
>>584923565Middle if he's the one asking questions.Top if he's the angry one. Bottom left if he's the tsundere.Bottom right if he's the main character.
>>584923069well yeah but theres no way its just that simple ive seen some threads in the past and they all have storys of incest and stuff i thought it was a super complex game or something
>>584923215normies will tire of it very fast95% of people have no creative hobbies, have never grinded a thousand hours to become decent at something. they are just consumers.
>>5849235652 is the chief 1 is the like jeff from american dad4 is a bitch 3 is the evil guy behind all of the evil
I can make a Triple A tier game in a month. What should I make?
>>584923646lookin good cris, but you can drop the trip
>>584924213adult game if going by the $ list.
>>584923962Yea, but the yesdevs will use AI to improve their productivity 10x. Basic games will have no place on the market.>>584924213kek
>>584924125You know something you're a bitch
>>584923824>>584924125pretty good characterizations
>>584924213the game of your dreamsalternatively, one where I can impregnate cute gobbos and other monster girls>>584924308>I/Claude recreated a cris workflow in an hourholy shitgonna say tho, I really like it, it's very 'heart of darkness', very cool early pre-rendered made into sprites from late 90s games, it's pretty interesting, not necessarily my thing tho
>>584923402What's more likely is a CP2027 scenario. People will build up networks of "trusted" computers, with access to the outside net blocked. Of course, a bad actor getting onto your community network will destroy everyone on it, so these groups will be highly protective, both of access to the network (think torrent track networks) and with their own security.I used to think this was a fantasy scenario, but with recent AI development I think it's plausible.
> Bison has a foot fetish> Akuma was actually kinda cool> Balrog came out to MANY MEN> Guile said the fucking line > Dan was actually a decent character > Chun, Dhalsim and Guile carry this movie HARD > Blanka was awesome Wow this movie was actually entertaining ! 7/10
>>584924708which agdg games can have a movie? no kanna a softcore creep video isnt a movie.
>>584923565Middle but I like all of them. They look like a cool orc team.
>>584924708>Balrog came out to MANY MENkino
>>584924651I'd welcome a CP2027 scenario at this point, modern internet is so incredibly lame and gay.
>>584924645Did you make claude do it all itself? If you give it a tool like imagemagick, it'll do much better and probably more effective when smashing the frames together.
After Demo Day I will start working on the other unlockable playable characters for Mortan.So far my ideas are Demon Nun (loli), Human Knight (loli) and Dark Elf Sorcerer (loli).
>>5849235652, 3 looks more like a demon/oni than an orc
>>584924352Games won't become more complex even as AI advances because of steam's algorithm which only promotes tiktok slop. Big complex games don't appeal to tiktok, basic brainrot does.
>(loli)
>>584925160I respected the voice of the people and did as they asked, that is all I did, it did everything else all on its own.I'm telling it to fix a couple things still and then I'll just release it and people can do with it as they want.I'll ask him what he thinks of imagemagick and whether it'd fit in the workflow, but considering this is going to be open source, I don't know if I should just add anything like that in there, but maybe just an option to easily connect to it and work with it would be good. This is what's being added:1. More animations from the same model (biggest gap). There are only Idle and Walk, both generated by code. Mixamo FBX animations or free CMU motion-capture clips, mapped onto the auto-rig, would add run, attack, spell-cast, hit and death. One model becomes a full character set. Medium effort.2. A better auto-rig. It places joints from fixed body proportions, and its distance-based weights make the robe bend like rubber. Two concrete fixes:- Place joints with DWPose, a pose detector already installed in ComfyUI, run on the concept image.- Compute Blender's proper weights on a cleaned-up watertight copy of the mesh, then copy them back to the real model.
>>584925325kanna...
>>584925591>(ㄒoㄒ) 18禁 2022 Ahegao/Gapeface 【アヘ顔】 Binaural 【バイノーラル/ダミヘ】 Gemiko Yamada 【山田じぇみ子】 Oho voice small breasts Successive Orgasms 【連続絶頂】 Tiny Breasts 【貧乳/微乳】 Twin Tail 【ツインテール】 げっぷ オホ声 メスガキ 男性向けI will now proceed to play your game.
>>584925325well are you going to lock weapons or not? like the demon nun can use the staff too but the knight cant use the staff?
Been using claude for months and it still surprises me at how much it can do, it's actually so crazy the times we're living in>Animation for a character isnt looping properly>Tell it to fix it>it just does
I reached a newer workflow chuds.
>>584926117No. Why? Because I hate it when games lock a playstyle to a character.I just want to be able to use my favorite weapon with my favorite character.
>>584926271i tried to give my bro a guest pass and he threw it back at me and told me i have ai psychosis dont bother telling anyone about this crap
>>584926478its a catch 22 because then some characters simply wouldn't get any play i suppose
This is my new game idea
Are all zoomers pedoes now?
>>584926925thanks now its mine
>>584926692All characters will aim to be as appealing as possible, so most are at least guaranteed some fans.
>>584927010no, some of them prefer JCs
>>584926498you do have ai psychosis little chud.enjoy not being able to code when your brain atrophies and they raise token price once people are dependent on them
>>584926925am I the girl or...
More than half way done with my game, I see the finish line, it's right there and the closer I get the more giddy I become
>>584927010I feel for younger zoomers because the average 20 year old woman has a higher body count than Ron Jeremy.
>>584927010Zoomers arent old enough to be true pedos yet, millennials on the other hand...
>>584927595by then i will be a millionaire and would spend thousands on api per day
>>584927114with this newfound information I can predict kanna's game will sell a quadrillion copies
>>584927747And they want absolutely nothing to do with men their own age.It's crazy how much 20s zoomer girls are all over my 40 y/o dick. It helps that I own a home (and a cabin) and actually have a lifestyle to offer unlike the completely ineffectual zoomer manchildren around themMy generation can't stop taking absolutely everything from them lol almost makes me feel bad
>>584928341Same. Would feel bad if zoomers didn't absolutely deserve it and everything else coming to them. Skipped.
>>584921697People still won’t all be making games, and people will still want to play games made by other people.Most people aren’t even creative enough to prompt a game they would want to play.
I have no idea how to create a fun level lol
>>584928845fuck it just ship it
>>584923646You should've used Tripo3d.Still there's errors, generate again or wait another year until it's perfected
>>584922065Reminder that the schizophrenic Nazi scientists predicted this
>>584928690>Most people aren’t even creative enough to prompt a game they would want to play.You mean almost everyone. Give 99% of people a "make game machine" and they'll only be able generate slop that they themselves will grow bored of after a few weeks.People genuinely thought game dev was "finished" because AI could "combine" Skyrim with Minecraft. That's their extend of creativity, combining two popular games.
>>584928845Are these Claude sprites? Claude is making Eurojank?It's so fucking over.
Notch was the warning shot & Tim Sweeney is the killshot for the AI luddites.This discussion is finished and we should move on.
>>584926358Cute, but make her chest flat
>>584922041interesting how this graph used to scare me and now it brings me hope
>>584929472but timmy just made a clown of himself?
>>584929386Exactly. Thinking AI accelerated game dev means game dev won’t make money anymore, is like thinking the printing press meant writers wouldn’t make money anymore.
>>584929595according to X trannies? lmfaoooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vm6WqoaNZ4
Honestly the smartest thing would be wait 1-2 years to see if AI tools improve and local could do a professional game alone.Right now is too noisy and you can't see if normies will accept AI games or steam will shadowban the slop,
>>584929613So you mean we're going to start seeing subgenre explosions like Pop-Sci and Shitty YN Romance
>>584929841>smartest thing would be waitthis has statistically neverfucking workedin the whole history of man
>>584929449I am making a whole game with several levels like a sonic game
>>584930017which statistics are you pulling out of your ass lmao
>>584929793kid looks 20 and 40 at the same time
>>584929595Gaben also said AI is le good, btw (he was one of the initial investors of openai aswell)
>>584929841>buy asset packs from asset store so assets don't look vibecoded>vibecode a game>don't disclose it>nobody can tell
>>584929793>I leave the creative aspects to humans, which is why I pay people for art, sound effects and music for my game>also I'm more of a game designer so I leave the technical aspects like programming to AIProgrammer sissies just can't stop caching Ls....
>>584929841yea, you should wait 4 more yearsSTOP WORKING RIGHT NOW and go consume slop while we make our dream games that were never possible before without spending tons of money and time
>tripfag (you)'d meIT SO OVER FOR ME ANONS, I AM NEVER GONNA MAKE IT.
>>584930740
>>584930436>I'm not creative or artistically skilled so I buy asset packs >I'm not technically skilled either so I use AI This is why his game was able to be cloned by a robloxjeet
>>584929849Hopefully yeah. I mean unless steam is so shitty they lock everything down, gaming should just get way more fragmented with hyper specific subgenres and less winner-take-all AAAA nonsense. Like how TV went from being a common cultural touchstone to a bunch of successful-but-niche shows your coworkers haven’t heard of. And that happened for the same reason as this. Everything got cheaper to make and distribute.
>>584930667ok now show your fps, a real scene and a more destructive ball
>>584930436>>584930938wait why is he mad then
>>584927985he's never finishing his game. It has no coherent vision. Eventually he'll realize he can make more money taking commissions from other pedophiles
>>584931028sent
>>584931096'dites won't like this one
>>584931005>>584929849The way steam is set up now prevents this from happening. Every genre is competing for 400 slots on the front page which creates a race to the bottom (appealing to tiktok alphoids)
>>584931135Game is almost done thobeit?
>>584912974I'll just come out and say itAI is dogshit and completly irrelevant when it comes to literally everything that's not code related and even if you use it for code you need to be tardwrangling it constantlybut yeah stealing games and flooding the store with garbage will probably kill new indie games
Fuck frogs are making anime with goths in it>westoids cant into ani-ACKWhy are you afraid of making anime games again?
>>584931135the fate of every art "dev"
>>584931373Did you remember to make the game good?
>>584931096>wait why is he mad thenhe's not, he says it in the video
>>584929613>sloppers is everybody who isn't me
>>584931372I thought someone would bring that up. I can’t tell how true it is though. And steam seems to be doing some things like the calendar that are attempting to change it. I can see a lot of paths towards things becoming less concentrated. With TV a big part of it was there being multiple streaming platforms with meaningful market share. Steam being a de facto monopoly does hurt things a lot. They could use a serious competitor. Maybe one of the ai gaming platforms will succeed enough for that. Or roblox will decide to age with their audience and become a traditional game distribution platform.
>>584931502Yes, my circle of yes men playtesters have been loving it so far so I'm not worried since it gets better with every update.
>>584929050I just don't see how that's good, it's just not meant to give the same result either, they wanted a sprite and a workflow to rotoscope 3D models into sprites, not the same thingI'll eventually try tripo 3D, but I'll probably have to end up fixing the models myself so zzzzzzzzzz
>>584931823kanna...
>>584931385Wait what's this?And is it tranny coded?
Steam doing ANY amount of enforcement is the absolute bare minimum to cover their asses as the technology settles.They purposely have it set up so that they can do the least bit of 'someone said this is AI', then when you say it's not, they say 'OK'.And detection will always be an arms race, and very heavily stacked against the detector. Already it's easy enough to set up instructions that you'd like to put all code and assets through a de-AI pass, and it would be a whole hour/afternoon of work to get that near flawless.Steam is doing the barest effort that lets them say "See? We're trying, we're on your side". More games is good for them, they have no moral stake in the situation.
making a porn game without knowing what a real woman looks like down there sure is challenging.
>>584931817Yeah either Valve/Steam will adapt or someone will fill the niche (not Epic kek).
my kanna clone is looking goodthink ill name it kanna
>>584932128>Ask AI to do it>Game is now about robot pussy>This is an improvement
>>584932224post the loli mc?
>>584932371my mc isnt cute nor funny
claude, create a character creator tool that can recreate all these models and their permutations
>>584932465>cloning mortan with none of the appeal
>>584931915Dreamland>And is it tranny coded?Not sure if it suits for a magical girl self-inserts rumao
>>584932602they'll never learn.
Does your game features laptop stealing mechanic?
>>584932371sureshe works delivering letters by day and fucks moths and chinese by night if caught
>>584932602no thats for phase 2 my first mc should have huge boobs
>>584931852My attemp used that same reference image but it's not in the right style (should be in a 3d style). You can try generating it again and changing the target triangle count up to 25k. What I mean is if you spend a bit more than the 2 minutes I put into it you'll probably get a much better result and faster/cheaper than what Claude can do
>>584933069
I think I am gonna give up on my dream ideas of making metroidvanias and 2D fighters, and focus instead on making with AI agents, rpg maker garbage.
>>584907401>>584907969>>584908948>>584909412well you guys just figure it out, you'll need to install comfyui and a few of the models for the workflow, and of course krita and blenderhttps://github.com/Lowkey333/puretty-sprites/releases/tag/v0.2.0
>>584933069i went outside today for the first time in months and i saw a wooly bear which turns into a moththis post means something.
"just pay a real artist bro"
>>584934018niggas be runnin before they walkin n shit
>>584933537Ruh-roh, Shaggy! Whatcha doin’ in those little boxes?
>>584911702looks like shitway to waste AI worklaod
>>584934790You can't play the original god of war trilogy on ps5 without streaming. Unless you emulate. Nah major companies fucked up, i seriously doubt it was impossible to make backwards compatible for ps1 and ps2 games on the ps5. They intentionally region locked those systems so they can sell remasters and their shitty subscriptions services.
>>584915647>(that I want to give it)because you ran out of token and you're incapable of working by hand
>>584935090>Nah major companies fucked upJust Sony. And that's because Sony is owned by American bankers including blackrock. Sony hasn't been relevant since the PSP days anyways. The PS3 was a fucking disaster and the PS4 / 5 offer absolutetly nothing that a PC can't do better.
>>584935090the endless port/remake economy has become so obnoxious
I wish to be pajeet, so I could make a game every week using AI and spamming reddit and twitter.But It's pointless, since I can't compete with professional pajeet indie gamedev farms.
>>584933284The fact that it pumps out a more complex and convoluted model is not good; it's fine if it's good enough that you can just put it in (but it's not that good yet), but because it's just more complex and not as good as it should, it's left in a weird spot where I can't just fix it myself (because it's not low poly like what claude does), without wasting hours on it at least, pic rel for example:Claude pumped out a bunch of haircuts for my girls, good, but a lot of them have some fucked up geometry; but nothing I can't just open blender for and fix in a few minutes. Can I easily do this if the model has 25k fucking polygons..?If I was a real 3D artist, maybe, but I just dabble so it's just not 'good enough' yet, when tripo does real/better low poly I'll be much more interested in it (but by then, is claude not going to be good enough at it?) >>584906782
>>584934018>still downloaded it>still shared it>still seething
>I wish to be pajeet
Had to get an iPhone due to work. Anything good for game development with it?
There's something wrong with the visuals of my game but I cant figure it out, I can't actually understand it but I can just TELL my eyes are straining while looking at it
>>584936308ask claude what is wrong
>>584936042Yeah there's these programming robots you can access with text chat
>>584936042Install https://apps.apple.com/us/app/claude-by-anthropic/id6473753684 and enable remote access in your desktop app so you can command the clankers on the go.
why the fuck does the clanker hate my coding practices?my version is much easier to add stuff
>>584937571I mean if we're being super pedantic yours has runtime overhead.
>>584937571>>584937708Runtime overhead or no, his version is good for manually amending and adding buttons. But yeah if you're using a clanker to code for you, you probably shouldn't care about code editing and readability. Your clankers gonna handle all that now.
>>584937571ai can read binary and raw code. Humans coders today only know gay shit like C++ or java
>>584936953Are these local
>>584937906I mean so is the Clanker's version - it's literally just a line you copy paste and rename the variables, the same as you would do with the list he has. The list would only make sense if it were a static array outside of the function scope accessible from multiple places.
>>584935081>>584935252uh oh, turdie meltie woopsie doo!any... games?anyways, proggy!>>584889173So I'm fiddling around with fog; I love fog... but do people?There's two ways around it: I keep it just for atmosphere and ambiance, this is an easy win, everyone loves fog for anything horror, it's always cool. Or I try to push it further than what's shown here and make it ACTUALLY impairing, like it was on some GTFO maps... which I loved, but I'm sure some people might've hated it? I'm a bit iffy on this, I was thinking of either adding 'spore spewer' type organs that just try to make it harder to see shit (either in a room or throughout the ship, using ventilation systems), or mobs directly which could spew either normal or toxic gas. Mmmhhh...
>>584938623you stop working on games the moment you run out of tokens lmao
>>584938837Anon, you cannot run out of tokens on a 200$ claude, let alone on a 200$ claude and then a 200$ codex on the side, what the fuck do you mean run out of tokens?
>>584939094kek, this
>>584932575That's not possible dude.Literally, topologically the mesh geometry requires certain details that you couldn't just automate in a character creator.
>>584915647Sloppers have zero creativity or sense of scope. You've been given god powers and this is what you've decided to use it on.
>>584939094>>584939180If I don’t max out my Claude subscription every week I feel like I’ve wasted money.
>>584939686I know bro, and I tried but I've had claude running on all three games ALL FUCKING WEEK and I was still at 85% (it just reset earlier). I don't even know how I can max this shit out, well I was mostly using xhigh so I guess I could use MAX every now and then but then it takes ages to do shit, soooo... yeah. I mean this little guy wrote about 600k lines of code in a week, I think that's worth the 50$ lol
>>584939671sayaka...
>>584932602
>>584939671that pic is my target demo
>>584940675pedophiles?
he dropped the power word...
>>584939876Maybe I’m just better at being more wasteful lol. I have it working on the SaaS I own at the same time so I guess that does it a lot of the time. Generally I have 3-5 instances going on 2-4 codebases at any given time when I’m working. Then when my weekly is out I do 3d sculpting, art etc.
>>584939671Ok.So, why are you so mad about it?Let's assume it's true; so... what?What makes you seethe so much? Why haven't you filtered me yet?I think you will be seething no matter what, because this is all that you amount to, and you're projecting your lack of creativity onto others and you realize that deep inside, the clanker can and will replace you.I'm okay though.>>584941298Yeah I'm thinking instead of just wasting my codex away (since it's so retarded so I can't even trust it to do much of what I need at this point save for texture work, it did some good work on that earlier today), I'll just keep plugging claude into codex so that anything I ask codex has to pass through claude too, that's how I got okay looking fog (since astra on her own just broke the build zzzzz).
Textured the male body
I'm on a stage where I need to decide the art part. I was going to rely on buying assets, but the current situation with AI makes every good asset on sites like itch have dozens of fully AI-generated games (see comments on: https://itch.io/queue/c/6777243/game-assets?game_id=1591077). Worse than being another brick on the wall is having people assume I also use AI because of the asset usage. Thinking of getting my hands dirty and making my own tilesets and characters, which requires me to adapt the theme of the game to something I could tackle.
>>584941078No, little girls
>>584938623>Writes up a giant tirade about how everyone is a hack>Makes bad Half Life clone
https://youtu.be/3Vm6WqoaNZ4hiring artists to do the work for you is just AI for nepobabies
>>584942869This is how I feel too, my games have personality to them that AI people can't clone.It all comes down, once again, to the fact AI is only a threat to you if you yourself are not creative.
>>584942539I don't understand why you guys think Art is not important when it comes to gamedev, Design in general is the most important thing when it comes to games or anything really.Even dogshit artstyles with modified and stolen sprites like undertale fit the dogshit gameplay that's basically a dogshit modified and stolen from snes japanese games.
>>584943082Undertale stole art?
>be ok at art, know all the programs and how things basically work>understand a couple workflows and what the process often looks like from concept art to full asset>charge very little for laundering peoples' AI art and claiming that I made the art myself and they paid me fairlyNiche business model but I think there's a lot of potential here
>>584943269Modified , same thing really, both come from a place of malice with the only difference being that you can't sue someone.
>>584942869>I cloned MYSELF to farm all of these views!
Nobody cares about how original your content is.Vampire survivor was using copyrighted assets; nobody gave a fuck.Get real, grow up.
>>584943346These two are entirely different, though?
>>584944050ah yeah of course one is yellow and fat, haha! man sorry dude i am blind, let me ignore the fact that he literally left the same pixels on the hair, the face and the ear!!11! also that he """""""""""worked""""""""""""""" doing shitty earthbound hacks for yearshaha my bad dude my bad you are right, THEY ARE completly different and ignorance is NOT malice.
>>584943297it's admitedly funny that aichuds don't realize anyone can steal their art or ideas and people would clapthey have no human rights to the eyes of the population
>2 or 3 pixels on the same place...Is the schizo for real?
Bring back Fygoon to kill Trace-tan, Beaner, and Lowkey
whats goony gonna do? spam his ugly cartoon? lol
>>584939562>That's not possible dude*some minutes later*>>584942076ahemeverything is possible nowwe are on the singularity already i dont event understand time anymore. I can feel the eternity.
>>584945265Send all of Trace's posts to the protocol
Cut out some of the intro so it gets to the meat of the trailer faster like someone said in the last thread*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LWpSaPSghY
wait am I on beaner's side then, reallyor are we doing this 'enemy of my enemy is my ally' thingdamn becoming an e-celeb is complicated...so anyways, video games?I really like 13 and 16, it's going to be a medic kinda gal that just heals people (unsure how yet, probably some bullshit heal spray or something)
Where do I find a cracked version of crocotile3d?
>>584945809
>>584945834>eceleb>to the seven people that still post here
>>584945809Yeah this is great bro, really cool, I mean the music fits so well, good shit.Maybe I can trust AI with music huh...
>>584945809aw I see that you have worked on it for years. I hope it goes well for you.
>>584946113I made the music; its just a remix I did of the 2017 bokube prototype theme song but with lyrics. I used Suno for the AI placeholder singer voice im gonna swap that out with a real singer but this is an example video I did for the singer ahead of time so they understand what I want. https://youtu.be/uEB_Y1mrMeI?si=78F-jG7uR4V8qpSj
Follow up, objective ai analysis based on current thread data
>>584946005Why didn't you answer the question?Are you devoid of creativity?Do you have no interest in video game making?Why are you here?>t-t-t-there's only seven people!!!!>i-i-it's all your fault!!!>no I will keep coming and keep schizoing and no I will not partake in the subject of the thread at any point in time, I will only scream and piss myself!!rightSo, anyways, video games? >>584946515Ooooh, damn that makes it even cooler, good stuff, I wish I had the ear to make music, I tried installing a few things and fiddling with it myself but it just kept getting more convoluted and couldn't get it right at all.Hope your game does well, I'll shill it around to a few people I know would be interested (my wife being one).Good luck bro!
>>584945809>>584946515Prolong the development even further and there will be 10 more videos for >>584942869 which makes people hostile to your AI voices
>>584945809Haahaha holy shit I remember this game from like 15 years agoit looks a lot weirder than I remember
Every namefag turns into this
>>584946515what if the real singer is worse than the AI one? You should just never tell people you use AI and hurry up with this one as a human will prolong dev time.
>>584946645damn that's kinda hot, can I imagine you as a pink haired oppai loli that's a bit yandere about me?>>584946997based?
>>584946645He has to be a bot, it would be extremely sad to think there's a real human behind the tag.
Bokube was made using AI slop? Yup dropping my wishlist I might as well just play the free AI roblox version.
>>584947310They'll unironically ban it for normal people but corporations will be allowed to use it and this is the best possible outcome for indie devs.
Kill your AI friends or I will touch base with Kellen
>>584947565You do realize this would mean indies would lose their one advantage over corpas right?The one weakness AAA has over indie is that it takes years to be made and that means it can't easily shift focus or change things mid-way through, AI will allow them to do just that.What do you think would even happen if AI was only allowed for big corpa and not indies, how can you think this'll help you?
I don't need to work anymore, which is why I don't mind taking the time to clone a free Bokube release just "for the lulz" as we used to say. I want the end of his long journey with that ugly ass game to be completely robbed of the majority of future revenue. All of it for basically nothing lmao.
>>584947565>corporations will be allowed to use it and this is the best possible outcome for indie devs.literally wat
>Artniggers now have unlimited power to make whatever they like>Us codeniggers are just screwedFUCKWHYDIDIWASTEMYTIMELEARNING THIS FUUUCK SHOULD HAVE LEARNED TO DRAW FUCKING SHIT
>>584948164no refunds.
>>584947761>You do realize this would mean indies would lose their one advantage over corpas right?You mean, making hard video games? Company games are raped because editorial will ban all forms of difficulty.
>>584947761>>584947843It is the best possible outcome. There's no reality where AI gets banned for corporations but keeping it out of most hands is the best alternative. Also there'd be a clear line of AAA = AI and indie = made by humans.
>>584948164that's righttick tocktime's running out
>>584948940This man is right. Namefag, accept that your singular death will help the rest of the indies.
pretty happy my 2D skills are unrusting.:D
>>584948940>>584949406cucklord behavior
I hate designing UI...
>>584949472I wıll surpass you.
Nevermind, it's just schizoshit again.>>584949472are you trying to mog me because I said I needed a doc model?
>phone buzzes>hit 'Approve'>describe what I want next>go back to my movieyep, feels good to be a yesdev
>phone buzzes>shove aside my 16 year old girlfriend as a 33 year old male (legal in my cunt)>hit approve>slam my cock back into her prime anus
start doing this>>584950038>>584950038>>584950038
Game dev cured my depression.
>>584951010my tulpa did (she helped me become a yesdev, but i didn't put her in the credits)
Game dev caused my depression.
>>584949472this is how we beat AI. put your love into your art.use it for code
>>584948164hope is not lost.
>>584948164>>>/ic/7550155
>>584948164>He isn't having claude make his art too (doesn't need to be declared because the art was generated via code btw)
>>584949608then don't, go do something elseI'm able to tell how lacking your UI is and I'm refunding
>>584953170>moshi-moshi claude make art for my game (void protocol) good and not generic
>>584899919Liking the clouds in this. Aiming while flying seems hard, assuming you're going to build some kind of auto lock?
What if I totally and utterly get destroyed by next fest? If I don't see any kind of uptick in wishlists or demo plays.
>>584953170how will non artists know if what claude makes is any good?
>>584954138gamedev is just a hobby, so what does it matter?>what if my remote control plane doesn't fly as fast as the guy who brought a jet powered one?i do understand the feeling, even though I'm not in it for money it's nice to see numbers go up from things you put effort into
>spend weeks meticulously building out combat system>finally play it>completely unfun and terrible feeling
Note to myself: never again try to create a 4chan profiler to unanonymize posts.20% off my monthly quota spent already, and I subscribed today...
>>584953995Yeah it's going to be a challenge to get this right, I already added a bunch of different accessibility features (including auto aim), and now it's just 'too easy' to shoot at people (but I can probably fiddle with the settings, or give different levels of strength for it). I also added a slo-mo to help with this, and then we also have head hunting bullets and bullets that automatically ricochet to other enemies in range, and then one that create an arc of electricity (which basically does the same thing but looks different). This thing is going to be a nightmare to design overall, which makes it the most fun one. I was also seriously considering switching the perspective of the game and just making it a grounded FPS and the broom would be optional or to use to travel between places, but that kind of kills the whole point so I'd rather not do that, but also a 'what if ww2 but you're a wizard' from an infantry FPS perspective would be fucking cool (and it'd be easier to design, ofc)I also added different options for the aiming and decoupling of the camera, we got a flying assistant of sorts (if you've played war thunder before), that slightly nudges your broom towards where you're aiming to make it less disorienting and more natural, and also a toggleable broom lock where the aim can either stay fixed on a point in the world, no matter the attitude you give your broom, or do the opposite where the aim is going to be locked relative to your broom (so if you look 30° to the right of the broom and start looping, you'll always be looking at that 30° to the right.) It's going to be rough to get it right lol
>>584954730I just realized I mimic other anons here for fun. your false positives will be maximum
>>584954451>just a hobbymy entire future is at stake here
>>584954730Bro, grok is fucking trash at this either way, don't use grok for anything related to coding, he's honestly one of the worst ones, even deepseek or glm flash are probably better than it. >>584954862Who the fuck would do this?hehehe
Do I still use Midjourney? Did I move onto something else yet
>>584954984I didnt use for code. Used it because grok is le basedrino and I thought it would be fine for doing such task (profiling from a list of jsons).
>>584955063I went back to stable diffusion 1.4
>>584954945gabencunt's future is at steak
>>584954945>>584911307
>>584954639Same here. Mine is missing something. Could be polish like effects or too much going on. I do want to add some direction air moves. Could help the combat a little.The one fun mechanic I like is the spot dodge.
>>584949608claude will fix that
>>584955960you need screenshake
>>584891087>The people making the game using AI has less love for this project than you, the uninvolved artistwut
>>584955960hit stop and sf3 parry
>>584955960I think you just need combos bro, it's a lot of work but it'll add a lot of depth to it.Potentially/alternatively, a charged attack that could stagger them or maybe send them up in the air to combo them then, though I know you don't want to go too autistic about air combos
It is so hard to work on my game right now. I'm working on idea guying gameplay content. And I am having a hard time making enough worthwhile content to pad it out further. Also it's spooking me how many more systems must still be created after already going through so much hassle!Aieeeeeee!!!!!
timmy sweeney's first solo game had kino art. steal his style.
>>584956503>Epic MegaGamesKek. Took out the Mega from the company name at some point. How big was his company at the start? Sub 10 employees? Any pics?
>Epic Games, Inc.>The company was founded by Tim Sweeney as Potomac Computer Systems in 1991, originally located in his parents' house in Potomac, Maryland. he's just like me fr
>>584956503>>584956632sovl
>>584955960Stop shotabaiting and give her long hair already,
Never been here for when someone released a game, how many copies do they usually give out to the thread?
>>584956618
>8 reviews
>>584955960>pedoslopNasty, don’t reply to me
>>584956781about 8 or so. sometimes raw, sometimes with a missing number and a cypher. sometimes as a picture with the codes.
trying to decide what game to steal next from old demo days
a game where you rape your niece
>>584957283kita...
>>584956805>he was a skeletor just like me
>>584956087I have it on shieldbreaks, I don't know if I want it for every single attack. Though a lot of indie games like adding it on everything>>584956240Thought of changing the dodge into a parry or making it an upgrade to the dodge at least. Become parryslop.>>584956384I'm torn with the thought of combos or at least long combos. The stagger state I got now it's the air slam. It's too easy to setup, makes fighting enemies feel the same. Gonna look into making it a 2 step process somehow.>>584956771What years of being a /ss/ artist does to someone.>>584957169(me)
>started my kanna clone yesterday at 12>its already different and better and has more contentits not just a clone anymore its the real dealno need to worry as the cute and funny mc comes in the sequel
>>584957437Well you could also have a soft-stagger system, where the more hits to get in, the less staggered they get -> get redder and redder -> attack through the stagger after X hits, so the player has to learn how many hits he can land on a per enemy type basis before he needs to back off and get back in later or something.Tho I shouldn't be giving you ideas because I'm not a platformer guy so I really don't know wtf I'm talking about. I just want to support the art, and the /ss/
>>584958469>the cute and funny mc comes in the sequelwhy tho?
in 1991, Microsoft launched Visual Basic 1.0, this was the beginning of the sloppening, allowing teens in their bedrooms to slop out whatever they wanted.
>>584958612because she's the villainthats right im going for throat evil.brats.
>>584958914can you at least post her? i need my daily loli fix
>>584958469and... is this "clone" here in the room with us now?
Finna clone a nigga game
god I love evil lolis so much, but they're so rare tho
I'm cloning FEZ. it's been long enough. alphies can enjoy my frutiger aero styled remaster
Okay the clankers fucked it up a bit, but I think this is the right way to deal with this right? That way the player can easily see what symbols to draw and what he has access to etc, I don't think we want all the numbers on it though.
>>584960003>first personretard
>>584960003This will be VR? also what happened to that dev making this before? about 4 months ago. he had a crowd of npcs and a few combo spells
everyone I know speedrunning to clone bokube
>>584960259minecraft already did it
>>584960259>bokubeWho?
>>584960175don't talk to me nigger, first person is obviously the best perspective there is, because I can play as me you stupid faggot>>584960216I'd love to make it VR but it'd probably be way more work than it's worth, maybe if the steam frame turns out to be good?I was planning on getting one, I'll see. But no plans so far. And I don't know who you're talking about, I mean rune drawing is an arx fatalis thing, it's cool.
>>584959060id be faster at making it if this piece of shit laptop didnt have some stupid lcd bug and brick itself when i plug in the charger>>584959032i have two choice and i haven't settled on her yet>>584959368but its some what already deeper than mortan actually?could kanna actually be crumble????i notice they both have good art skills but are lacking in substance of their games in the exact same wayits uncanny in fact someone suggested that he add a grapple hook and that does indeed seem like a good thing but he does not.. why? crumble was 100% grapple.
I can feel it, I know it, I will make it, there is no doubt in my heart! I WILL MAKE IT!
>>584960517>don't talk to me nigger, first person is obviously the best perspective there isso true sir, it has nothing to do with claude's 3d modeling/animation limitations
>>584960778benchod I fuck you
>>584960517a few months ago, he had drawing a mixture of runes to create new elemental spells, sort of like divinity original sin elemental interactions.
>>584960003Yes that's way way better.
>>584958558>Tho I shouldn't be giving you ideasSuggestions and ideas always help me formulate my own ideas. I like your idea. Gonna try something with the shield and it coming back after some hits.For a platformer, having enemies die in one hit is preferred. Since I want the player to be going around collecting stuff. I want the enemies to have some meat on their bones. Thanks too.
>>584960585is this a new schizo?
>>584954730holy shit betz, instead of trying to dox everyone why don't you just make a fucking game?
>>584961034anyone still posting here is at least 50% schizo
>>584954730I have many different posting styles. Heh even on live image boards people could never pick me out. Go ahead guess my game. You won't get it right and I post it all the time.
>>584960003Having to memorize the spells would be cool. Could have the book block the spell circle in the center. Having the hand swipe through the pages. The book could swap in and out quickly. Having both out feels easy but I guess the book is blocking most of the screen.
>>584960585>lacking in substance of their gamesWe are in the amateur dev general. A lot of the games here lack that pro level juice. They're on it though.
>>584960724Anon, I'm literally using unity chan for the model, don't you think this is irrelevant at this stage?Also it's mainly fucked up because he placed the drawing circle way too close to the character but that's probably my bad, he moved it back when I told him I wanted the circle to the side of the broom so he probably just used the middle of the broom's z axis or something, not a problem though, I'll fix it tomorrow.>>584960865Sounds like a smart guy with good references, but I'm not him no. Oh also that Skyrim VR mod had that system too now that I think about it.>>584960868Thanks. >>584961462Yeah I'm fiddling with this, I thought it'd be cool if the book just hovered close by and you could use your fingers to flip the pages directly while it's on the left side, but maybe I can just do an in between where the book comes back to the center of the screen and closer when you move your hand to the left and outside the circle, or maybe just a click on the book to bring it up or out. I want memorizing to be good and the faster way, but I could also allow people to click on the symbols directly in the grimoire to draw them, that would work too but it trivializes the system a bit, idk.
If this keeps up I might have to contact a legendary company
>>584962138Maybe clicking it does weaker spells. Having the book out could drain confidence that could lead to less magic gauge, damage, or something.
>>584954730Happy to see I inspired somebody. However, You're doing it wrong. It shouldn't take a lot of coding. Most you're doing is running data you've already acquired through different models.You use OSINT info like usernames, Reddit posts, twitter, Discord JSON is fucking golden. If you don't know who you're trying to unmask, you're running wild shotgun guesses at best.And then you use that as a key with modern stylometry like CISR and Multi-LUAR to get a best case triage.Bonus points if you use CLIP to describe images so basic cropping can't fuck the hashing.
>>584962372>make 8 frame walk cycleyou got me.
>>584962372>mfwneeds images for the image board
>>584961427I wasnt making it to use here.>>584962372There is no coding. I basically ask the agent to download the threads and look for patterns on them. Worked great for a 3 threads prototype, but when I tried to create a better version with more threads my quota ended.
>>584962736Yeah the game threads are just the 4chan API with some changes to insert trolls and schizos so there's probably a few eerily similar posts
If I send all of his posts to the director... there would be a raid on the thread, and all the AI fags will be gunned down!
>>584961695the shading on the orange spider matches the orange rocks he does
>>584960585>>584963705based noticer
>>584962897There are images but they're just AI gen sloppa rn>>584963460Mhm. For sure. Ship it.
Who would be so mad at a schizo collecting info on their own doxxing, anyways? Hmmm....
Just me orbiting my factory.Made a big positive change, where I require refiners to have fuel. Just that small changed helped a lot to require players to have a constant stream of fuel, rather then just waiting to collect enough for the next unlock. It may be obvious, but it'd a big shift in my design I need to carry forward. This is essentially the "end state" for this planet. My next tasks are going to be making other planets more unique, and have their own problems to solve. Not sure exactly what they will be, but that's a problem for tomorrow.
>>584888971If Steam Fests and Next Fest are losing value rapidly, then what is the point of participating with unreleased games? The risk of cloners finding your unreleased game vs the value gained from the Fests. At the very least there may still be some level of value overriding the risk, provided you only participate when the games release is in 4 months or less.
It’s really hard to tell where “the gameplay sucks because the mechanics are bad” ends and “the gameplay sucks because it’s ugly and missing animations/indicators/sfx” begins. I might have to finish all the art and fx before I finalize or even work more on the combat system.
>>584964638Probably Matt (From Edmonton)
I hate designing UI that has to have intuitive gamepad navigation. Why can't everyone just use a mouse?
>>584965627use the right analog as a cursor
>>584965142what is wrong with just doxxing and killing the cloners? they are not human so it's legal I think
>>584965142It's about narrative. If your game doesn't suck it can't be cloned as easily, and you have a brand and followers.
Sleepy time
Where these threads always this dogshit? Or just a recent thing with all the """""euro""""" migrants and jeets?
>go to make a jumpnshootman (firsttimedevhowamidoin)>want to add mouse cursor reticle allowing for 360 degree firing>sprites are 2d and require entirely different strategy and skeleton>even then it'd look kind of silly>kind of just hung up for days on indecisiveness
>>584905112>So why does Spurdo dev keep jumping between projects? I'm curious as to why he just doesn't finish any one of the games he makes nowadays. After Spurdo it's like he just became incapable of finishing a game. Almost as of something changed internally, an expectation perhaps? I get the feeling I have a similar issue. A certain expectation that influences my development.Spurdodev here. I was incapable of making a game before spurdo too, considering I started gamedev in 2017 and didn't release spurdo till 2023.Few reasons, depending on the game. Sometimes it's just a "I'm wasting my time with this, it's not not an interesting game", sometimes its "This project is way too big, and I can't scope it down because of it's genre, so I'll abandon it and work on something smaller" or simply "Oh I have a great idea for a different game, I'll just try it out as a little side project..." and then eventually abandon the main game for the side project, then abandon the side project later too.BUT since I exited next fest for Warp Bound and the side scrolling game, I decide to get back to work on the snow game which was like, 90% done anyway. It's only an hour long game but atleast I can put out something. Then gotta work on warp bound for the auto battler fest demo mid nov.
>>584967871Either go for 360 and embrace the suck of using spined rigs or make it lock to 45 and 90 like Contra.Also, that sounds great. What's your proggy so far?
>>584967420covid brain rotted everyone
>>584967897fests really do light a fire under me too(for demos).
>>584968113Planning stage and run sprite animated, 98% of the lore worked out but not written down yet lolI've never tried to make a game before so I'm fumbling around in the dark and sabotaging myself with ideas (like mouse cursor aiming...)
>>584968764I have a soft spot for lore first building. If only one could share it in today's day and age.
>>584968349yeah the only strong devs left are unvaxxed everyones brain is inflamed lol
uh oh, cloner meltie
>>584970351>is what a brain rotted individual would thinkeveryone who got the bioweapon(covid) in them is affected.
Looks like some is on suicide watch with their price release numbers. They're going to be starving for an entire console generation.
>>584971552*Sony. Glad to see we have ai killing both the software and the hardware side.
Just letting you retards know that it's not just ai "devs" thinking they're running the show, encouraging pedo shit, trooning out, threatening to steal your work, threatening to steal your work and ideas if it's handcodedNot to mention you are confined in what is allowed within payment processors rules, not just steam.
>>584971912wtf are you trying to get across? I'm retard so you gotta really spell it out and not vaguepost
Hi, I'm an indie dev that's grown a bit concerned about the wave of AI clones that we've seen for games like Needle In A Haystack. And Alliance Arts cancelling their planned demo for Drunken Goddess Reflux. I suspect it'll only get worse as AI improves, so I'm looking into registering copyrights and trademarks, both of which I've never done despite shipping several games on Steam.It's my understanding that it may cost about $765 (filing it myself in the US) to register copyright and trademark in 2 classes, so I wanted to ask if anyone has any insight into how beneficial registering is. I'm worried that as AI continues to improve, bad actors will eventually use AI decompilation to make more sophisticated clones of even complex premium games.
>>584972267I'm trying to say pe'dites get the rope. Easy enough?
>>584972509that's my motto so yes easy pz gg fricken ez
>>584967897>Spurdodev here. I was incapable of making a game before spurdo too, considering I started gamedev in 2017 and didn't release spurdo till 2023.6 years!? That's quite some time.>reasonsNo sunk cost? Impressive.>snow gameSeems like good timing what with Christmas and Winter around the corner.I'm curious, if you don't mind me asking some questions.1. How did you get into gamedev?2. Did you have any art/music/programming background prior to starting in 2017?3. I recall you saying you went neet mode in the past, you still one and if so how do you sustain yourself?4. How many gamedev hours do you average weekly, estimate is fine?
>>584972465Hi, I'm a trademark lawyer. Your concern is misplaced. In 6 months the internet will no longer be functional. Get a real job.
>>584970701The "original" needle in a haystack game or the trve original that posted a youtube vid alongside a github page showing development going back to 2025 albeit that may not count as proof since it could easily be a game that got pivoted last second. Then again kaybe there was one in the works years ago and it got shelved.
>>584972267More time means higher hardware prices. I haven't looked at overall market health and am kinda worried that it's cooked. More games lowers demand for the games. Inversely, ai is increasing the price for the hardware. This isn't customer driven since the customers buying the GPUs are the ai companies selling the ai coding. You could technically make 20 games in the time it take a hand coded to make 1. By the end of it you'll see who is more satisfied. If your goal is to sell, this would be a doomsday scenerio. The market is both flooding, crunching, and there is extreme fear. For those that don't care about crunch?Itch is good too.
>>584972713Are you a trademark or copyright lawyer?You got them golden handcuffs or not?
