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Previous Thread: >>584851554

>Guild List & Resources
https://rentry.org/a2g
>General Progression Guide
https://rentry.org/nfatips

October 13th Patch Notes:
https://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/board/update/view?articleId=6acf20d007b77e214688a7ac
>Server Status
https://aion2.gaming.tools/server-status
Monitor closely, some reopen every hour or so if not full.

>DPS Meter
https://notmeter.com/
>Character Creator and Closet Testing
https://questlog.gg/aion-2/en/dressing-room/create

>4chan Advanced Access Servers ⁕ Legions (Password)
◈ NA East | Elyos — Nezekan ⁕ NoFunAllowed (a2g)
◈ NA East | Asmodian — Zikel ⁕ FunAllowed (vidya) ⁕ NoFunAllowed (vidya)
◈ EU | Elyos — Nezekan ⁕ NoFunAllowed (vidya)
◈ EU | Asmodian — Israphel ⁕ AdverseToFun (fun) ⁕ OnlyFeet (a2ga2) ⁕ Handholding (mods)

>4chan Launch Servers ⁕ Legions (Password)
◈ NA East | Asmodian — Lumiel ⁕ Cloverflow (a2g)
◈ EU | Elyos — Ishtar
◈ EU | Asmodian — Fafnir / Hadala / Baba / Quai ⁕ msgk (vgcorr)

>Free Server Transfers Info
http://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/board/notice/view?articleId=6ac932a8fa34c1011d627bc9
http://aion2.plaync.com/en-us/board/notice/view?articleId=6ac7e128d97eae18cc40e3b7

>Reminders
∘ Hybrid "it's only a few randoms" discord guilds are NOT /vg/ guilds.
∘ If a server is full, either wait or join a temporary one until the next free transfer.
∘ Can't transfer from NA > EU / Elyos > Asmodian (& viceversa) nor Early Access > Launch.
∘ Ping has a significant difference with sprinting / mounting / boss mechanics. Choose wisely.
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fuck chanters they are so fucking op rn
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>>584891632
EU chat FUCKED
AGAIN
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EUlets aren’t humans
I would know I am one
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>want my character to be young looking, not shota
>sliding the eyes down for a young-feel gives him a huge forehead making every hair, but 1 usable
>sliding eyes up then the jaw up gives him a long neck and completely removes the double eyelid i like
hmm... i wish I was a slider god like korea/japan
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no nyerkers allowed past this point
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>randos are are raping AFK funallowed anons...
nyo..
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>>584891956
Too late kru im already nyerkin
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how's your cumulative AP cap looking?
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>>584892154
I’ll never catch up to you people, nyerk
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>>584892154
Do zikels truly...
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>>584892241
it gets easier and easier every week because of AP and rank inflation. You'll hit the weekly +500k cap in no time in a month
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>>584892154
how? what the fuck
please explain anon
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>>584892154
this game is so fucking gay
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>>584892273
?
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are you ready for the f2poors to come flooding into your servers and make it even harder to get into abyss after this week as everybody consolidates into 1-2 servers per region?
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>>584892154
Like this
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>>584891324
ehm not for me, I just don't die and do the mechs
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was this a bargain or no
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>new mail
>check it
>more rez stones
AAAAAAAAAAAAA CLERIC BROS....
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>>584892726
based retard
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>>584891934
The japanese boy face has the youngest looking face imo. It has the softest jawline out of all the face types. There are 2 presets with that face type. It's facetype 33 sis. It's the one I used for my shota.
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>>584891632
For level 10 per genus, do I need to get ALL the pets to level 3, or is it like monolith feathers where I can level 3 like 80% of the roster per category and cap out the genus slots
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I hadn't fucked up tanking Deus Research base all the way from tranny 1 to 4

Start running today and I can't stop eating those columns that knock you off the arena, I didn't even know that's what they did
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>>584892805
don't be mean..
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>>584892958
You don't need any pet at lvl 3 since you can level genus through analyzing.
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>>584892343
he camps enemy faction teleports with other virgin losers
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>>584892958
you need to analyze whether you level every pet or not.
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>>584893048
Okay thank fuck
I went to the beginner zone to bring some pets to level 2/3 and I already wanted to kms
I’d rather do a runback of the sealed dungeons than overworld mob grinding
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>>584893256
you will need to grind cogni pets at the very least because they give might.
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>>584892958
Read the guide in the OP
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>>584892154
i was killing mobs and they murdered me until i died
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Is the crafted chalice worth buying 2 gems from the season ship it if you're already 2100?
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>>584893375
if only it was like sao s1 character death
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>>584893586
not really
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>>584893375
I'm jealous that bimbos know what to dye their outfits with no hesitation. I'm still sitting on my complimentary dye tickets.
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>>584892154
Need to find a cuck zikel shitter for me to farm and kill.
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>>584893586
I did it to get overhead slam 20 asap
Then i got cucked on enhancement RNG so it was a complete waste for that
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omo support already got back to me about the bracelet
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>>584893678
I'll be your AP cuck but only if you change my diaper before and after we are done
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>>584893256
Yeah I plan on slowly getting pets up through pet boxes because I'm lazy.
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How often are they giving out the 5 res stones I made fun of it when I started but I actually NEED this shit for arkanis
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all my problems with arkanis disappeared when i realized that bubbles didnt disappear after they got hit
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>>584893748
Needs to be 10-15 a day. 5 isn't enough with these pugs.
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>>584893852
they have been doing it daily but its just gibs, it could end anytime now
hence why group finding is so stressful right now because nobody wants to waste their res stones on glorified dailies when the raid is dropping soon
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top heavy kid
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these good cleric sigmas?
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>>584894043
>pick cleric over chanter
>want to LARP as shitty chanter by not taking any healing stigma or res
wtf are you doing, you better not bring that shit to expeditions
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>>584894043
yeah they are the meta stigmas. i would put points into EP first
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>>584894043
Dunno sis. There are no good content creators for this game and no good Cleric guides. I went with 20 for the earth one, 10 for the aura at the bottom and 5's for the other 2 but prioritising the hands.
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>>584893852
Hardest part of Askanis is the first boss, fuck those meme glaives
Not even the mechanic where you need to make them collide, though that sucks shit too, but just the damage any time she throws anything out

Also her autos are janky as fuck, the timing and hitboxes on them are so fucked I've dashed through her and she's still hit me after with the front cleaves
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Ja geil, da freue ich mich aber
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>>584894272
yeah the first boss is the most annoying
that bullshit orb that spawns under your feet and almost instantly kills you is the worst
arkanis itself is piss easy, dont even need healers
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ElyosGods
Join NoFunAllowed NA East
Pass a2g
>>584891632
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AION 2 is exactly what you'd expect when you hear the words Korean MMO, free-to-play, and NCSoft in the same sentence. It's like a fucking prophecy. You already know what's coming before you even install the game.

Beautiful graphics? Check. Fast-paced combat? Check. Actual depth? Sorry, that feature is locked behind a 0.03% chance of dropping.

Enjoy your honeymoon phase of looking at pretty character models and pressing buttons, because eventually you'll discover that the real endgame is gambling with your gear, praying to the enhancement gods, and watching your progression get held hostage by RNG designed by someone who thinks fun is a limited-time event.

And the dungeons? Absolute fucking cinema. Your teammates sprint ahead like they're competing for a world record, the boss fight starts before half the party arrives, and anyone still running down the hallway gets to experience the revolutionary new MMO mechanic known as **watching everyone else play the game without you while receiving absolutely fuck all rewards.**

Whoever designed that system deserves a promotion to customer feedback management, because clearly they've never played a video game in their fucking life.

Meanwhile, Blue Protocol: Star Resonance is sitting right there, offering anime MMO goodness, flashy combat, and an actual reason to log in beyond clocking in for your daily shift at the Korean RNG casino. But apparently, having fun without selling your soul to the enhancement system is too much to ask for these days.

At least when I'm playing Star Resonance, I'm busy enjoying my anime MMO instead of calculating the expected financial damage of upgrading a fucking pair of boots.

AION 2: Gorgeous graphics, shallow gameplay, predatory progression, and a multiplayer experience where playing with other people somehow means not getting to play with other people.

**Blue Protocol: Star Resonance stays winning.** Sometimes the grass really is greener on the anime side.

-Maku
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>>584894485
ok
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>>584894367
thats the second boss no?
>>584894485
thanks schizogpt
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>>584894410
the only good looking characters in this picture are asmo though
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holaaaaaaay
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>>584894341
lol welcher server?
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>>584894043
Use the buff when you don't have a chanter
Use that second stigma on the first row when you do have one.
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>>584894551
I would join for her. But the other NA guild has the bimbos.
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templarbros how are we doing so far?
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>>584894583
Hadala
Von daher so irrelevant wie ich :(
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>get unique
>same piece
thanks
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Kinda feeling the burn out. And all progression seems purely RNG based at this point.
It's the unusual K-MMO slop, but at least it was an interesting K-MMO slop.
Might come back for Brawler.
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3 days until the f2p hoardes breach zikel..
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help i bought 20 odyle energy from the wind breeze merchant + claimed 14 odyle energy from the free daeva pass but in my inventory i only have 20 odyle energy
where did the 14 other ones go is there another storage for them im not aware of?
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>>584894909
1 day*
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>>584894909
Hi! It's me!
the f2p hoard!
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>>584894767
komm nach nae zik :(
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>>584894890
Usual K-MMO slop* Fuck autocorrect
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>>584894939
i think it's here
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I have no energy should I play the game today
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>>584894661
My templar alt is about right there in gear score.
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>>584894043
everything 10 > earth punishment 15 > amp 15 > light of protection 20 >earth punishment 20 > amp 20 > benevolence 20
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>>584895047
i was hoping u were right but its not
i think im going to have to settle on the fact that i lost them somehow
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I wouldn't mind playing this game slowly and casually if there was literally anything to do other than fucking autistic gatekept dungeons and p2w pvp
the shugo minigames aren't terrible but kinda janky and exploitable
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zikel bros are we gonna win siege tonight
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>>584894939
Did you actually claim the pass?
What does the BP screen look like?
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>>584895303
there's so much shit to do when you have no energy though
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>>584894939
sort your inventory in case these odyles have different expiration dates, they will be next to each other if so
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w-w-w-we're doing fine right, assassinsisters??
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>>584895148
>benevolence 20
why
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>>584894485
>Meanwhile, Blue Protocol: Star Resonance is sitting right there
LOL
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SHTdYDTQWo

its over...
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I'm trying to say this in the most diplomatic way possible. It really feels like NC would prefer we don't actually play the game.
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>>584895148
>light of protection level 20 over earth punishment level 20 that gives you massive uptime and approx 4K dps increase
wtf anon?
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>>584895436
because everything else is maxed?
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>>584895303
do your cubes nigga
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>>584895325
claimed all to the ones to the left offscreen too
>>584895389
just did that nothing beside the 20 i have and also nothing in my storage either
fml anons i dont get where they went maybe i discarded them without realizing
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>>584893990
She looks kinda good. I tried going small but that awful bobblehead look put me off like >>584892730
They restric6ed the min size head to prevent proper loli characters damn gooks.
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>>584895576
You are just playing it wrong
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>>584895420
y-y-yeah sis...
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>>584895757
Probably, yeah.
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>this game is so complex omg there's so many things in it!

the complex things:
>so basically, you have to enhance your gear, then you can transfer that enhancement level to a new piece of gear
>you have random stats on your gear, and you can change those stats to whatever you want
>you put your skills in the macro, bind the macro to m2, then hold m1+m2

meanwhile in actually complex games:
>30 minute video essay on the mechanics and interactions of a singular item
>3 hours of videos about different ways to utilize the movement mechanics in the game to traverse the world faster and some of them are required to make specific jumps
>the intricate character specific movement mechanics required to maximize a character's kit to its fullest potential

is everybody just dogshit struggling in this baby mode game with only surface level complexity and 0 depth?
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>>584895757
holy altholic GAWD
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>>584895724
Aren’t the free ones up top the small odyle energy shit that only gives 10? The wind breeze merchant are the big ones that give 40 energy

I’m pretty sure they are separate items. Compare the free pass to the paid pass and the icons are different. Check your inventory again.
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>>584895303
why do you not make your own groups then?
I open the group finder, see a bunch of 80k/85k/90k groups for 1400 dungeons, host my own 70k lobby, fill it instantly and it's smooth runs.
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>>584895148
i like this route anon usually i take the second one on the top row
what do u tell the people who flame u for not bringing revive? ive had that happen a few times
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>>584895757
imagine the sealed dungeons..
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>>584895757
what a fucking loser lmao.
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are we deadass glazing assfaggots now?
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Some Anon a few threads ago wanted this.
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>>584896073
>what do u tell the people who flame u for not bringing revive?
NTA but every retard who flames a cleric deeply regrets it if you just tap out of the dungeon. The other 3 dps will fucking hate his guts whilst they wait another 20mins for a new cleric to bless their group.
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>>584895949
wow yeah im a complete fucking retard
thank u anon(s) for helping
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>>584895757
bro what are you doing
nobody will be playing this come the 4th
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>regional quests
kill me
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>>584894971
NA?!
Mein Ping wird da so derbe am Arsch sein Brusi!
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She is complete now, my Gilf.
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>>584896235
Continue....
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>>584896274
>>584895949
i was looking at my inventory assuming these were the ones that gave 40
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The DPS gatekeeping seems kinda real for urugugu and vakron.
There’s a ton of 80k combat power reqs for fucking 1400 ilvl dungeons.
I’ll make my own instant rooms and I often get undergeared 60k power rejects or 75k power players but they are playing an unfavored class like assassin or gladiator
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>>584895573
my honeymoon phase is wearing off. this shit is boring
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What do people think about a tattooed berserker concept, something viking-like?
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>>584896416
gross
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>>584896548
Get out of the kitchen.
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>>584896493
I can guarantee you that you can easily kill these bosses if people simply autoattack the boss from 100 to 0 as long as they have uptime
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>>584896416
>>584896235
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>>584896416
grussy...
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chubby latte

>>584895743
>>584895757
uoh
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>>584896416
based
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>>584896073
I started taking benevolence over revive in 3* expeditions and not a single person has ever said anything about me not having revive. One person did ask if I could take it but the party was against it because of the long cd. I think revive is generally more expected amongst more casual/bad players in the lower lvl expeditions.
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Who else getting rich rn?
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wait wait wait wait hahahaha are you telling me f2p faggots can only claim 1 cube per run if you arent subbed? so... devs make you pay a sub... just so you can play less(claiming 2 cubes per run) ???? HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE HAHAHAHAA
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>>584896493
never host instant join lobbies. you need a minimal amount of gatekeeping. I've had 0 issues running 70k lobbies on the 1400 conquests.
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>>584896845
Running fire temple makes more money. I'm at the point where I don't need to sell shit but buying the overpriced shit.
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>>584896261
I never intrude on dungeons because I assume this is what happened and they can live with it
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>>584896845
skipping crafted gear because I don't care about keeping up with the bleeding edge
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are there quests for pvp in abyss or people are doing it just for giggles?
I don't really give a fuck about stuff from there, went there only once and got 1-hit by several 3rd class people, I'm on a pretty low pop server while the one we are against is full, no one is even doing the siege on our side anymore since we get fucked and can't manage to get even a single artifact
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>>584896860
honestly I would quit playing without sub, I just did full 2100 fire temple pity and only got 2 drops, 1 weapon that Isn't mine and jewelry.
I'm a cleric and not gatekeeping and it's making me want to start gatekeeping
>just let anyone join because I'm nice
>constantly ressing retards while carrying them
>they still don't vote for me at the end even though I saved them stones and allowed them to run in the first place
>see kromede actually enraged 3 times because the dps was so low, I was top dps as full support spec and still saved the run because they died from enrage mechanic speed, I lived and res'd the whole team to finish kromede
My good will is quickly depleting and soon I will fully embrace the gatekeeper life
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>>584896609
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean
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retards are still unable to clear draupnir HOLY FUCK with overgear and they can't handle even two wipes
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>>584896925
I know I'm running fire temple as we speak, I have 10 mil listed for 6k quna right now also so I tech had 26.5 mil plus I have an alt with another 9 mil + I still have 20 blue stones, 5 yellow stones, and 10 legendary odyle I can still list
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I lose like 1500 combat power when I change boots without move speed...
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>>584897229
>1 weapon that Isn't mine and jewelry.
>I'm a cleric and not gatekeeping and it's making me want to start gatekeeping
Better than me at least you got jewlerry.
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>>584897493
yeah move speed gives a lot cp
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>>584897207
nice I'm f2p + late chad so I'm behind rn
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>>584897342
>draupnir
>wipe
???
i did several runs with 35k pugs that do lower dps than me in support spec and we never wiped once
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>>584897224
Yes there are quest rewards for killing players in the abyss. You get oath tokens from the season shop for it.
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>>584896630
Yeah I host as cleric and see where the chip falls. The 1400 dungeons are not that hard and shouldn’t be gatekept, they’re not like transcend dungeons.

It makes for interesting runs when you get meme comps full of a mix of gladiators / rangers / assassins / spiritmasters
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>>584897493
yeah its pretty funny how people are worshipping combat power and its actually a fucking SHIT mechanic and anyone who over inflates it is an actual shitter
the best players I see have slightly lower power because they know how to properly stat while the dumbfuck thirdworlders are just slapping on whatever over inflates it + making gatekeeper group
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>>584894341
womenhating incel spotted, go neck yourself nazibro
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>>584897224
you get abyss points from killing people
you get abyss points from siege corridors
abyss points are very important to progress pve
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Was about to update my cleric build then I realized I don't give a fuck. Casual for life.
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>>584895420
>>584895793
even glads don't have it this bad
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how do i reroll boots with movement speed
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>>584897686
cleric here as well unironically some of my better groups are the "weak" classes
>glad tank
>rest sins and archers
probably because those classes are the "git gud or fuck off" classes so they tend to not stand in as much shit while all the sorcs, chanters, and SMs constantly stand in shit and then have the gall to sit dead waiting for res so I have to tell them to stone or fuck off because I only res during drastic situations or if tank eats shit
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>>584897229
I did instant join parties as a cleric for the entire duration of me getting full set for horn den and fire temple and it was a mostly fine experience. there definitely was a few close calls where the boss died close to/during enrage. it definitely made me hate assassins more though
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>>584897764
>picks cleric the most tryhard class that everyone NEEDS

>casual
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>>584897692
>the best players
NIGGA THIS GAME IS A SWIPER GAME THERES NO "BEST PLAYERS". stop glorifying retards dumping money into this DOGSHIT ass game.
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>>584897956
based
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>>584897748
why? I thought the Azphel daevanion only give PvP buffs
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>>584897956
holy seethe
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>>584897926
doing the same and you got lucky, I get lucky sometimes today but today is specially bad a lot of retards hitting fire temple conquest today
I literally always make free to join open groups or quick join

>>584897956
you're a stupid fuck btw and clearly not playing higher end conquest you can't just macro and stand in shit you stupid fucking monkey retard thirdworld piece of shit disingenuous tranny FAGGOT
but yes it's swiper paradise for pvp
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>>584898090
you need stigma points, potentials, wings
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>>584897790
please????...
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>>584898164
very thought provoking
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How easy is it to take a smaller wb solo or with a small party? I cbf to wait for a train
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>>584897947
The game kinda sucks ass.
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>>584898090
ignore that dumbfuck
siege gives a nice chunk of AP IF YOU WIN aka you're on the more populated and whale faction but you don't have to do it you will max out stigmas literally just pveing and you won't boost some loser whales ego as you get farmed by card swipers
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>>584897947
Kroni-chan came back to erp with us.
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>>584897790
enchant menu
soul binding
pick your boots
there will be 3 tabs on the left side
you either reset all sets (bottom, needs rare item) or you reset individual stats (middle, you need orange items)
only change soul binds on items that you will transfer, its very expensive right now
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>making alts instead of grinding abyss points for stiggies on your main
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towering over me
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>>584898107
yeah I imagine the average player quality is getting worse over time as more casual players reach 2100
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>>584898460
would
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>>584898092
>>584898107
you swioing retards will never be real players. you are bunch of buck broken cuckolds giving money to rich people.
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>>584898426
>Spending hours in abyss to barely farm an extra stigma.
Much better use of time to have an alt and wait 3 days where you can get 3x the abyssal corridor which nets me nearly 50k abyss points.
1 shugo win = 1 stigma
Nightmare = Maybe 2 stigmas a week

Alts = millions of Kina to boost your main, unlock missing skins.
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>>584898426
>go abyss
>put a brick on macro
>watch ai cats on phone
>someone kill you
>run back
>repeat
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>can't sell shit on the market for money
>progression grinds down to a slog
Great game.
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pretty
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>>584898460
Ask her is she's in the nba
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>>584898598
I spent 15 dollars just for market access you disingenuous tranny faggot if you can't afford 15 dollars as a 30+ yo adult then you have fucking problems L O S E R
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>>584898426
It's the only fun thing to do in this game
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>>584898107
>you have to... hold your 1 macro and move out of orange circle...
oh my science this is so HARDCORE.
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How is melee dps in this game? Would it be easy to find parties as a gladiator?
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>>584898742
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>>584898742
please for the love of god play templar instead
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>>584898742
>gladiator
debatable. I hear they pop off at around 2100+ when they get lvl 16/20s on their key skills. Up to that point I've not been impressed. Play Templer if you want a fun time.
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>>584898718
thats not my point though. theres no such thing as "best players". this game is made for babies and retards to swipe for. thats all.
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>>584898851
If he picks templar you will never ever find a group.
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>>584898742
Play GladCHAD if you want a hardcore gaming experience. Play Templar if you're a sissy faggot with a lovense in his ass.
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>>584898605
If you developed your main, you could fly around solo killing other developed players for 1kAP a pop, plus all the bots/shitters are 2-400 and usually free
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>>584898605
I have an alt but not sure what I should do on it, doesnt seem like anything transfers except kina
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>>584898678
>you in the nba? cuz i wanna dunk my balls on you
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>>584898741
>>584898889
t. 700 gearscore krao cave players
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>>584898528
The casual players are not there yet they are still getting filtered by deus and arkanis
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>>584898365
he already did that last thread
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>>584898964
Exactly what you did on the main. Farm pity at Uguuwu and Vakron don't waste kina. Get all pieces to +10, quick 2 trans runs for cards to 2100 then just rinse and repeat.
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>>584898718
What’s the difference to playing WoW or XIV on monthly sub? If I don’t PvP whales may as well not exist to me and I’m just enjoying the content at my pace. I don’t understand where this double standard for this game specifically comes from or why people like you mald at it.
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>>584898851
I only want to tank to fill groups on lower end content
>>584898927
Are they overrepresented?
>>584898943
What makes it more hardcore?
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>>584898945
>Just whale or be a top 1% no life so you can farm abyss points to stay ahead.
Do as you like I'm chilling in the bracket below with the dedicated but not too sweaty players.
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>>584899134
Responded to the wrong post
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>>584895085
lol are you gonna grind pets?
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>>584899104
how does that help my main?
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>>584899208
Templar is like top 3 most popular classes.
Gladiator is like top 2.

And teams have zero issues with running gladiator as their main tank if their combat power is higher than yours.

Playing tank is a miserable experience.
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>>584899480
>How does extra kina help your main when it cost 1m+ a tap
You tell me anon.
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>>584899431
the absolute unit..
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>>584899510
what. playing a tank is nice
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>>584899480
Kina + soulbind fodder + ascension trial manastones and pets + can use their points to buy skins and not gimp your main's progression + your main screen looks better
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>>584899510
Why do you keep on using the sovless dungeon skin. Don't you have anything else? You can buy some Quna with your Kina and get two cash shop skins.
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>>584899431
This gotta be someone's fetish.
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>>584899725
dungeon skin has much more sovl than what's being sold in the cash shop.
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>>584896925
am i fucking up running ferocious den instead? what about fire temple gives you a lot
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How's the collecting going?
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>>584899830
Well dye it and show your creativity
>>584899835
I'm a cleric and think it's better to go ferocious get a bit tankier so you can have a better time in fire temple. The sweats on you tube say fire temple first because the weapon gives more CP but I hate hate hate getting fucked and making 0 progress when you get someone elses weapon.
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>>584899725
I fucking LOVE this skin.
Nothing fits her better than this skin, all the cash shop skins feel out of place.
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is there a reason to not dump all extraction specialty points into odyle?
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>>584899975
You would look good in some tight gym bunny leggings
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>>584899510
Maybe I'll consider something else. I didn't think gladiator would be so high.
Are assassins as bad as they sound?
I assume clerics need to dps on end game content and can't only heal?
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>>584899997
max odyle first
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>8 stigma shards for 1 level
What were these devs thinking
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Aion 2 treats progression like a mobile banking application. Want to earn more? Sorry, you've reached your limit. Want meaningful dungeon rewards? Here's some garbage. Want to use your currency? Better check which of the seventeen imaginary financial classifications it belongs to first.
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the enjoyment this game brings goes down a whole lot once you run out of all the time gated entry tickets
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>>584900051
DPS doesn't matter, every team needs 3.
Clerics can be passed out in a coma with a -10000 combat score and they still be picked.

Tank is just absolute SHIT because the 2 tanking classes are the most popular in the game.

While chanters can't heal worth a fuck and no one ever picked cleric.
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>>584900679
Bvilt for ryona
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You mfers really out here asking for endless grind to keep up instead of just touching grass until energy is recovered. Or just do alts if you truly have no life
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>>584900816
shut up you mobile slopper
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>>584900816
> Or just do alts if you truly have no life
Rude. 1 alt is chill, the only part that sucks is getting to 1400 which is a day for lvl 45, stack energy and maybe 2-3 days clearing quests and sealed dungeons in both maps.
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>>584900051
Assassins are the best, they are really fun, have lots of mobility and don't need lots of investment, you should go sin!!!
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>>584900907
Near every mmo has timegates now retard
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yall are miserable play something elsebif ur ahh is this mad at the game
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>>584900679
Thanks. I'll do some more reading into classes and might be rolling cleric.
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>>584901086
Did you finally learn to love your sin?
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average cleric main
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>>584899510
Can you tank my dick in your ass?
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>>584901154
We look like this
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>>584900816
The unemployed demand more content.
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FUCK CAT FROM BPSRG
FUCK CAPPU FROM BPSRG
FUCK SANI FROM BPSRG
FUCK ERIS FROM BPSRG
FUCK NOIR FROM BPSRG
FUCK FAITH FROM BPSRG
FUCK FELY FROM BPSRG
FUCK ROB FROM BPSRG
FUCK SENNY FROM BPSRG
FROM VOX FROM BPSRG
FUCK LAEUN FROM BPSRG
FUCK APPAL FROM BPSRG
FUCK KYOPPI FROM BPSRG
FUCK LIENTRI FROM BPSRG
Fuck Lico
Fuck Buttroon
Fuck Bossu
Fuck Dopplin
Fuck Jiggu
Fuck Eristic
Fuck Maku
Fuck Creep
Fuck Node
Fuck Miyu
Fuck Seio
Fuck Azrice
Fuck Ame
Fuck Scrubp
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>>584895573
this is kino
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>>584901086
Will survivability be an issue if I'm a casual?
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>finally do transcendence 2 deus
>it's actually pretty good
>get the exact arcana cards I need
>now I can't do it ever again or it's a complete waste of energy
>have to instead run shitty ass baby dungeon I don't like because it has the drops I need
Even when this game comes close to being good it decides to backtrack on that and be gay as fuck instead. I'm starting to genuinely hate it
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>>584901450
just run it again so you can level up the card, it is never a waste because 100% of the xp used to enhance can be transferred to the next card
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>>584901450
thats literally what the guy in the video said would happen and listed it as a compalint LOL >>584895573
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Im gonna start making like gatekeeping a thing like 100k + 100+ likes.
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>>584901149
Yes! The moment we get a class change ticket im going cleric or templar

>>584901426
No! just don't get hit, and if you do, you die in 1 or 2 hits, very fun!!!
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>>584901676
>Yes! The moment we get a class change ticket im going cleric or templar
Can I pump her just 1 time before you change How did you deal with the no res stones? I'm slowly reaching 0
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>>584896138
The sealed dungeons aren't even that bad. Its the quest where you have to wait for this stupid nyerker to walk halfway across the map. IDK if zikel has one this bad or not.
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>>584891815
it is simply WHAT WE DESERVE for being the COOLEST and STRONGEST
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>>584901353
fuck me HARD
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>>584899134
in WoW people buy tokens to get rank 1 and gladiator and mythic clears
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Yeah I'm thinking Elyos are done letting Asmos pretend they own the Abyss
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>>584901353
dodged the list award
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>>584901353
I'm new to the gang of mmo schizos. Just let me know when to migrate. Is it vindictus next year?
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>>584901353
I'm fucking one of them every single night!
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>try crafting
>fail 7 of 10 wood
ah ah things go brrr :^D
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>>584901353
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>>584902015
All Elyos can do is gank Odyle gatherers since they continue to get steamrolled at any actual relevant content (artifacts and Nahma)
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>>584902362
>elyos gets steamrolled at artifacts
>thats why they own all 3 of them
Ummm alright?
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>>584902472
Your irrelevant server doesn't count
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>>584894410
Far left. Middle dude. Best looking ones. The rest look like complete irredeemable dogshit.
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general slowed down so hard
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>>584901676
>>584901086
don't you post on /trash/ you freak?
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>>584902013
I know and it ruined the game. Now the question is why everyone bitches about the model in this game when it’s just more veiled in the top mmo (lol)
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Your Templar is talking.
Its time for you to bend the fuck over
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>>584901353
>miyu
>seio
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>>584902625
Proof?
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>>584901797
This is the ugliest fucking thing I have ever seen.
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>>584902686
Have you considered for maybe one second that the people who complain about things in this game either 1) don't play wow or 2) also complain about those things in wow?
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this shit is unbearable who designed it
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holey moley the big forehead makes the whole head look looooong
>>584901353
frick you
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>>584902824
chinks
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>Didn't play BP with /here/ so will never be part of the popular clique in mmo generals
Bros...
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>>584902690
youre a loser coward that doesnt even go to the abyss anymore the only thing anyone will do is laugh at you
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>>584901353
I don't know any of these people
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>>584895573
holy shit he dumpstered aion 2
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sealed dungeon is what stopping me from making an alt
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>>584895573
watched this because his aion 2 videos keep appearing on my jewtube and this was surprisingly based. agree with pretty much everything he said, but his notes especially about the community gaslighting are so true
i've never ever been fed so much conflicting info in regards to raising my item level, what to progress or prioritize for character power, how good/valuable my class/other classes are, etc, in any game ever than i did in the first week of this game. even now people can still barely agree on half this shit and people are lying left and right about how quickly you actually progress and what needs to be done to do so
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>>584903260
>i will argue that aion 2 is the worst MMORPG since bless online
>come on guys its slop
>it doesnt do anything new its the same dungeon, raids p2w and energy slop
>i will argue throne liberty comes close to it but aion 2 takes the cake
bros....
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>whaled characters are so strong they just delete you in 0.5s
Are whales even having fun? I'm not a whale just a paypiggie and got 140k and I delete 7/10 characters in the abyss which is incredibly boring.
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>>584901792
>Can I pump her just 1 time before you change
m-maybe...

>How did you deal with the no res stones? I'm slowly reaching 0
I swapped to the shitter defensive stigma instead of gigachad max dps savage fang, and i also don't join dungeons without clerics.

>>584902625
yeah proof?
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>>584899791
>This gotta be someone's fetish.
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>>584903403
its because they want to paint this DOGSHIT faggot game made for thirdies in a good light when in reality its actually a terrible experience. they will exaggerate the importance of cards and how much it gives you gearscore just so you keep playing. getting golden chalice for example gives barely 30 more gearscore instead like say "oh duddde it gives 100 gearscore i swear on me mum"
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>>584903594
The power fantasy is the point and no not all whales are scared of a competitive pvp game
like Shroud who was an esports pro in CS yet he whaled super hard
It's just the satisfaction of larping as Goku
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>>584903035
Awww, was someone waiting for me in abyss to bend you over and fuck you, faggot?
There are much better ways to go about it than behaving an insufferable little shit.
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>>584891632
reposting progression pasta

Do all sealed dungeons, side quests, and strongholds.

You will be around 1290. Add manastones to all your gear and +7 it.
You will be around 1380. Add 2 theostones.
You will be around 1390.
Buy 10 daeva points from Shugo/Nightmare/Abyss Points.
Invade Rift and run enemy faction's sealed dungeons if you are low on enhancement stones.

Now at 1400.
Run Vakron to pity.
Run Uruguru to pity.
Run Vakron (Exploration) x3 for pity.

If you got 8 pieces of gear, claim your pity boxes and you should be around 1780-1800.
If not, claim 1 pity box and run that dungeon to pity again.
Now that you are 1780-1800 GS. Hone your gear to +10.
You are now 1800-1820 GS.

Run Transcendence 1 (1 of each). Equip your 5 cards.
You are now 1900 GS.
Run Transcendence 2 until you get full blue cards.
You are now 2100 GS.

Now you farm Fire Temple and Horn the same way you did Uruguru/Vakron until you are 2800.

Congrats, you are ready for Ludra and done with Season 1.
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>>584901353
I mean if you insist...
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>>584904004
>Congrats, you are ready for Ludra
If you have a pre-made/static sure. Nobody is going to PUG Ludra at 2,800. You get 4 attempts per week and people are going to be out of res stones by then. It's going to be a complete shitshow.
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picrel is true. devs are doing a huge bait and switch strat to get money of you. the first stop is you making feel like you need a sub and the battlepass to progress, the next stop is gonna be when you feel like you need to swipe and then endgame is crafting which is OMEGA p2w swipe fest.
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>>584904004
Thanks
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>>584904004
>Congrats, you are ready for Ludra and done with Season 1.
this is the gaslight this community does. btw this is not true at all. some of you like maybe 1 % of you will reach 2,8k if you swipe enough and even then they will gatekeep your combat power just like valkron or fire temple. they will want 20k-30k higher comabt power than required.
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>>584902765
Hey, not everyone can be attracted to cute girls.
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>>584904405
you arent getting 2800 just like that but that guide will easily get you to 2500
people are delusional if they think they wont have to craft for ludra
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>>584904592
>guide will easily get you to 2500
2,5k to 2,8k is huge difference and only swiping brings you there.
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>>584895573
Anyone else finds it weird that balding youtubers and streamers all play fem chars and put them into the skimpiest outfit? I’d be kind of embarrassed
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>>584904004
For the arcana cards are you supposed to enhance them or is the guide talking about them at +0
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it's one of the only sets I care about. 10% chance is aids
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i love how even 4cucks who are supposed to be better than reddit manage to gaslight and lie so fucking hard to you about not needing crafted gear to enter ludra just so they can lie to you into playing more so they feel better about themselves wasting their time on this shitty game
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Gladiators get bullied at the lobby but you can't beat them in spectacle when things go wrong

>Templar dies
>Glad's second enmity, an experienced tank, and casually steps into the breach to control the situation

>most of the party dies
>Glad can just start soloing the boss
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Getting 2800 is pretty much impossible unless you're swiping.
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Do I just farm mobs in the overworld for more refining stone shit?
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50m kina, on average, per gear piece to try and get to 2,800 btw. 16 pieces with 2 of them that can outright break on enhancement
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>>584905052
then the glad woke up and his pants were wet
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>>584895573
>aion 2 deploys the classic mobile slop tactic of being super f2p friendly early game then suddenly mid game they will hammer you with walls until you buckle and pay to progress and then endgame you wont progress at all unless you swipe hard.
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>swiping
i call it chinese rmt trickle down economics
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>>584904905
No sane person is gonna reach 2800. Just look at the abomination that is Transfer Crafting.

Its like a continous stream of dogshit you have to waddle through to play a raid that wouldnt even come close the easiest savage raid 1 in FF14.
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>>584905052
Even assassins don't stoop to this level of fanfiction...
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>>584905274
I clicked in the middle of the video randomly and the guy was screaming with what sounded like tears in his voice while he called the community dogshit. Imagine taking someone like that seriously.
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>>584905073
Give me a reason to give a fuck
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>>584905241
>16 pieces with 2 of them that can outright break on enhancement
i don't know why people don't bring the breakable clash runes more often. yea sure it's not every piece of gear, but ANY gear that can get destroyed on attempted upgrades is sooooo fucking cancer
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between 99% and 100% , how likely is it that my gold chalice will brick and be a net loss equipping it?
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Ludra will be at most, close or equal to am extreme trial on FFXIV. Nowhere close to Savage. Trascendence is normal (non savage) raid tier difficulty lol
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>>584901353
>never get into any of these lists because i change names constantly

hehehehe I'm a GHOST
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>>584905846
bout 101%
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>>584905821
>20% chance to fuck it all up at +5
4 is good number too so fuck it.
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I'm wearing two blue arcana because my gold ones for those slots suck, if I really wanted to ilevel pad I would be well above 2800. you don't need to swipe for it at all. I don't have a single crafted piece. I don't even have full fire temple pieces yet because I'm in arcana hell.
crafted is not worth it right now. anyone that tells you otherwise is trying to scam you and get you to buy his gear (that you'll then need to spend tens of millions more to actually make worthwhile)
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i don't see myself playing this in december but who knows
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>>584905846
i have this and probably wont be crafting it
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>>584905846
Here's the state of the one I transmuted, ALL I needed was Overhead Slam +2 and it just wouldn't happen
Ended up; getting it elsewhere at least
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>Do Vakron on alt
>tell noobies how to do mechs
>Save nooby from thorn trap
>0 commendations
No I feel bad.
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I'm looking forward to the Christmas skins sisters.
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>>584906015
>no crafted & missing gold cards
>that high
how
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>>584906325
By lying, faggot.
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>>584906015
>you don't need to swipe for it at all
So you're a f2p player that didn't buy founders packs, doesn't have the sub, doesn't have either battle pass, etc?
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>Spend nightmare points on devanian crystals instead of stigma
Is this the play it's like a 5x difference and I could eventually get +4s in everything. t.cleric.
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>>584906325
I forgot to mention I'm also in amp hell I am broke I only have like 100k kinah to my name right now it's desperate your turn out here
>>584906405
???
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>>584906259
thats my fear too, there are too many garbage rolls i can get and i already have a +2 core chalice

i might just make a parchment or something
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>>584906534
i have no idea what the star-teal(3) icons mean
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>>584906651
Those are extra upgrades you get after you get a piece of gear to +15, basically
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>>584906427
I bought the sub. the good battle pass doesnt need you to swipe at all it takes 4 or 5 dungeon runs to get and then it pays for itself in dividends
>>584906651
once you upgrade gear to +15 you can further upgrade it for even more stats
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>>584906534
You swiped to hell and back for that garbage.
That is easily 50million kina
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Good morning anons
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>>584905924
good, i don't miss wasting my life trying to carry troglodytes from that game in savage. ex is just right for puggable content on farm
>>584906515
go for stigma and then zikel statute, then other stuff. the nightmare currency will dry up once you beat all the stages
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>>584906736
>>584906749
naruhodo, i left it all at +10 until i get crafted so never knew this.
is it worth doing it on dungeon gear?
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>>584906769
haven't bought anything but a sub and a witch outfit
>>584906849
I would only start doing it when you have pieces of gear that you like the substats on. you can transfer gear which brings over all substats and upgrade levels so once you have that slot amped its like that for basically forever
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>>584906749
>I bought the sub
So you're not f2p and can't reasonably say things like "you don't need to swipe at all" because... you swiped
Did you start with f2p launch or a week early with the founders?
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>>584905924
trvke

evercold will kill this game
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>>584905763
>he called the community dogshit
hes right. this community is such annoying little faggots who keep lying to you about "it gets better at x" when it never bets better but actually worse.
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>>584906015
>crafted is not worth it right now
This, take it from me lads

I'm already 30mil down on just trying to craft a gold Artisan weapon, I could be running full gold+ Genus if I sold those mats on the market instead
Or hit +15 and started amplifying both the weapon and guard
Or bought enough herbs that I wouldn't need to gather an hour every day to make superior potions and scrolls
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>>584905073
If by swiping you meant subs and battle pass, youre right
https://x.com/Cyokimi/status/2111777958566457686
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>>584906942
okay thanks anon, time to kina farm then..
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>>584895573
He's right even if he rambles a lot
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>>584906515
No, stigma is mandatory. We are getting a fifth stigma slot soon, how are you going to get points for that? Cleric level 1 stigmas blows outside of res and the 3 sec invulnerability spell
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>content is good when its... LE HARD
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>>584907159
yes, that is what swiping means
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Guys should I boughted this it does 1% chance to proc 10k fire dmg?
do I boughted or not boughted?
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>/trash/ tranny
>good morning saaaarrrrsss
lmfao
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nemon with penis is content
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>>584906812
>Slaps ass
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>>584907217
Yes actually
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>>584906996
That's not what swiping means in Aion 2, retard.
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>>584907168
ganbare anon!
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>>584907285
Gm Sani
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>>584906812
These new skins have made it really hard for me to focus on the game whenever I see a girl wearing them in town...
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>>584907379
you swiped
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what head size would a height 41 have? having trouble getting these proportions right with this FAT dude neck
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>>584907281
how do you have so much money
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>>584907217
Depends on what you mean by hard
>hard where the computer is a cheating bastard that counters every single thing you do leaving little to no opportunities to even defeat the obstacle
>hard as in challenging requiring the player to understand game mechanics, their tools available, timing, etc etc to overcome obstacles
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>>584907574
I run fire temple like 20 times
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you will be playing with mobile players soon. its a hilarious thought.
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>>584907379
Paying money = swiping last time I checked
This reminds me of people who paid for the sub and battle passes in loa and called themselves "f2p+". Crazy cope
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>>584907143
yeah it is one gigantic whale bait when your money could just be spent amping your dungeon gear or rerolling your substats which would make you much stronger stronger kinah for kinah for a fraction of the cost of crafted gear
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>>584907217
>pay 10k$ to experience this dogshit raid so you can dunk on people 0.2s faster
No thank you.

The combat system with the macros is atroscious and is the sole reason why PvP is so shit.
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>>584907574
??? Its extremely easy to get that much if you aren't spending it as soon as you get it...
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>>584906996
>So you're not f2p and can't reasonably say things like "you don't need to swipe at all"
nta, but, for non-thirdies, swiping is colloquially used to mean spendings on top of basics like subscriptions. because $15 isn't nothing non-thirdies
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>>584907696
I still consider myself F2P even though I only bought the subscription
turned that 15 into 200+ dollars of quna plus you can bank anywhere plus you get 2 cubes per run plus you get more energy
it's just a no brainer if you play without sub you're literally retarded or just giga poor which how tf do you even own a computer to run this at 60+ fps if you're THAT poor you can't even 15 dollar sub????
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>>584907763
>tap to receive quest rewards.
>tap
its a mobile game what did you expect?
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>See my character
>get the urge to nyerk it
urghhh
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>>584907696
Yeah, what's cope is saying that paying for the sub is the same as whaling out and paying for stuff to get crafted gear is crazy work.
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>>584907810
You completely missed the point of the post
Saying "you don't need to swipe at all" while reaping the insane benefits of swiping (the sub putting a 2x multiplier on all of your progression, most notably) is kind of disingenuous.

You can get lost in the weeds of semantics of what "swiping" means all you want, but that's not what my post was about
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>>584907332
Ouch...
>>584907453
I'm glad they're on the cheaper side when you compare their price to other games like Vindictus.
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>>584902824
Unironically one of the chillest parts of the grind compared to vakron spam
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>>584907638
>hard as in challenging requiring the player to understand game mechanics, their tools available, timing, etc etc to overcome obstacles
in reality, this means making everyone dance like monkeys to some Simon Says mechanics 10 minutes into the fight and making them start over when one person fucks it up
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>>584907281
GUYS ANSWER MY QUESTION STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER STUFF PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>584907518
that depends on how you sculpted the face, so I don't think anyone can really say.
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am i crazy or did this game just die in the course of 1 week?
server chat is dead as fuck compared to usual
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>>584907761
My cope is that I will need a dedicated PvE weapon eventually so might as well aim for the kino instead of developing two different kromede greatswords
Status Effect is great in PvP and a completely wasted stat line against bosses

But yeah fuck crafting
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>>584907880
>I still consider myself F2P even though I only bought the subscription
Ok well you're retarded and don't comprehend the language you're using. I didn't read the rest of your post
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>Unironically thinking swiping ingame to be the same as being f2p
I see these people have fallen. $15 here. $15 there. $30 for the costume. What's an extra $20 for quna for coloring stuff?
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>>584896515
>it's not even the honeymoon phase i'm gonna quit
>this is just the honeymoon phase i'm gonna quit
>wait til the honeymoon phase ends i'm gonna quit
>wait til they find out about crafting then the honeymoon phase ends, i'm gonna quit
>the honeymoon phase is over, i'm gonna quit
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>>584908160
some guesses would be nice so i can use as a frame of reference
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>you literally cannot go to ludras unless you whale thousands of dollars!!
>anon chimes in and says no he only bought the sub and is already at ludra ilevel
>w-well you spent 15 dollars so your point is invalidated!!!
Why are thirdies like this
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>>584907574
Maybe play the game nigga
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>>584907998
>what's cope is saying that paying for the sub is the same as whaling out and paying for stuff to get crafted gear
Ok well nobody said this so you're shadowboxing
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>>584908078
When you're retarded and put it simplistic like that, then every game comes down to "simon says" mechanics
>play elden ring
>need to just simo says roll dodge on time and get your milisecond R1 in rinse repeat until boss dies
>play FFXIV
>same thing in the top raids
>play WoW
>same thing in the top raids
>play csgo
>same thing keep your aim on specific spot of screen and land all head shots

also lol at retards saying 15 dollars is "swiping" so subbing to WoW = "swiping"
a good way to put it is sub version of the game is how the real game plays, pure F2P is basically like a very generous trial.

swiping is when you buy 300 dollars of quna and exchange it for kinah to just buy out crafted wep and faceroll all gear to meta soul binds
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>>584907653
hwaiting for the ludra clear on mobile
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>>584907902
Sure but Aion is next mevel dogshit. Not even Genshin is that automated.
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>>584908078
Kind of funny because this causes gatekeeping to happen. Should just punish the person that doesn't know instead of the whole group.
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>>584908209
oh yeah? well you're gay and thidworldpoor so haha get owned go eat your porridge poor boi LMAO
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>combat is shit, just holding down LMB and RMB
>bosses are uninteresting and boring so far
>highly doubt any of the two will drastically change in the future
so what will be the redeeming feature of this game to keep players long term?
is this just another western dollar milking by the chinks?
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is this the vindictus waiting room?
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>>584908325
this is exactly why the aion 2 community are such obnoxious gaslighters. 99 % of you here wont touch ludra. i will promise you that. the huge wall at 2,5k to 2,8k will not only filter people but also make some swipe. this is the average experience.
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>>584908325
>what is combat power
Something you dont have clearly.
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nobody said paying for a sub is the same thing as whaling. anon said that you can't pay for a sub, reap the benefits, and turn around and say "f2p btw no swiping required" when the sub itself is a giant 2x multiplier on your progession

it's like hopping on a bike and saying "i don't even need wheels to go this fast lol git gud"
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>>584908552
The only thing this game has over other MMOs is the graphics. Everything else has been done. It's unironic slop.
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All theae brownoids are saying paying $15 for a sub is on the same level of swiping hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to get crafted gear. Nice false equivalence, dipshits. But I would understand if you think that a $15 subscription is the same as whaling out due to you being a turd world F2P brokie.
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>>584908325
>the same valkron/fire temple scenario where people gatekeep you because of your combat score wont happen in ludra surely!
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>>584908582
nah I don't care to go faggot raids
my goal was to collect fashion and play casually I hit 500 dollars of quna have 40 mil unbound kinah in the bank and have skill lvl 20 stigma shards
I hit my goals now I play casually and continue to collect fashion while waiting for GTA VI and GTA VI online
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>>584907574
expedition gives like 1M per run
thats why I said that once people reach cp where they can comfortably run expeditions in less than 10 minutes, inflation will hit so fucking hard
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>>584908369
>paying for a sub is swiping
>whaling out to obtain crafted gear is swiping
????
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>Join some group wanting to do multiple gugu runs
>We go in
>Guy keeps bitching about NEEDING a healer
>He eats shit and dies to basically everything
>The rest of us clear it with minimal effort
I dunno man I think that's a you problem
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>>584908713
to them 15 dollars is 3 months worth of salary it must suck being third world mongoloid poor
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>>584908890
class?
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>>584908563
yeah it is doomtrooonsexualfaggotlord, make sure to join the vindictus general and spam about eos for 2 years.
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I'm also in the 160ks combat power forgot to mention and I go up by ~10k a day so I dont think my cp will be an issue by the time ludras comes out either. plus you can always just play with your guild. you SHOULD play with your guild nobody in the guild gatekeeps on cp nobody cares because it all flops over even with everyone being low cp anyways. ask in the guild more for content if youre ever concerned about being gatekept
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>>584908190
is it worth getting the 4th line on this weapon?
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No way this diddyblud is still shilling Blue Squadron LMAO
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guys dont worry when ludra releases surely the aion 2 community will grow a big heart and let you in only needing the gearscore requirement. they wont totally demand higher combat score than needed. trust me.
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paying for a sub is the same as p2w swiping and no being racist does not mean you are right.
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>the goalpost has no w shifted from needing to spend thousands on the game to get the ilevel requirement to needing to spend a basic amount to get filtered on CP
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>>584909027
already have a group, stay mad faggy bitch
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>>584909027
aren't we running together though?
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>>584908974
163k is nothing if you want to clear ludra. LMFAO
>10k comabt power increase per day
either a swiper or a liar. call it.
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>hold lmb to win
riveting gameplay
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you can easily make 100M a day if you do nothing but play this game nonstop and run alts with a static
or you could just pay chang $100 and achieve the same result
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>criticize the game being p2w
>sudden ESL meltdown spam itt
How long until we start our daily seething about wow/xiv episode? I feel like it's gotta be coming right up after this
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>>584909261
>transexual bitch tears
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>>584909027
>play cleric
>everyone begging me to run
>constantly get added to friends after runs so they can keep me for the future
not my problem I'll just wake up click queue and instantly get in like always
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>>584908463
then it won't be le hard anymore because you need to punish the whole group to inflate the difficulty so dumb fucks like this one will blow all their time trying to clear it >>584908389
better raid design is ones that would penalize individual players as you said, but, then, those are cleared fairly quickly and not considered hard enough by the retards like that one above
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>>584908956
Pretty sure the complaining guy was glad?
We had two rangers a sin and a spiritmaster
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>>584909261
hold lmb +rmb and press abilties on cd*
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>>584909167
look in your guild list right now. do you really think even 1 % of those people reach 2,8k gearscore? think again.
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>>584909171
good thing ludras isnt out right now!
anyways I hope my posts have reassured any other anons reading this you don't need to craft do not fall for anyone telling you otherwise use your kinah to reroll and amp instead
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>>584909316
>"criticize"
You're just a transexual.
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>>584909316
how a dare u defend this the game do u even the play the game?
the this game is fully and i mean this with all my the heart but this game is swipe pay to win bullmalarky i hope your are proud of yourself for defending such the poor made game
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The biggest issue is Kina.
>>584909396
>amp
Amping requires 20+ million per gear piece
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>>584909396
Im a kr veteran and i will tell you that youe fake positivity will do morr harm than good. Stop lying like this.
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>>584909396
>gaslighting THIS hard
why are you lying for a billion dollar company
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>>584909374
gladiator can absolutely get shat on without a healer but it's mostly skill issue, ofc.
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>>584909568
mhm and to get a single crafted piece to be good is probably anywhere from 50-100m
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>>584909568
what the fuck is amping
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>>584909602
>pleeeeeeease come play wow forever and evercold aiyeeeeeeeeeee
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>>584909396
This is the kind of lying that kills games. You're baiting newbs so hard and idk if it's for shits and giggles but you're gonna make some poor sod quit and rage when he realizes you baited him
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paying for a sub is p2w swiping change my mind .
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>>584909316
ffxiv hasn't been relevant since 2022 or so.
but i am looking forward to see how this sixth rendition of classic wow plays out
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>>584909640
which is weird when you can stigma into a 2x use 20 second cooldown IMMUNITY TO ANYTHING IN THE GAME stigma
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>>584909640
Ah okay. I try and be mindful of team comp but I've also been reading that healers unironically aren't necessary in 1 and 2 star conquests. I've had mostly decent runs, but this one was more scuffed.
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i only see this behavior in the aion 2 community where people straight up just lie to in your face and say "dont worry you will reach ludra without needing to swipe at all!" but completely omit the journey to that point is completely miserable too
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The jews with Star Dragon gear up on market didn't like that post
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is this appropriate armor for a templar to better tank hits from bosses?
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>>584909728
>ffxiv hasn't been relevant since 2022 or so.
And yet every single thread someone in here seethes about it for dozens of posts unprompted
see: >>584909686
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>>584909683
Get +15 on a gear piece you stupid bitch.
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we don't even know the confirmed ilvl requirement for ludra cause they're completely revamping it
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>>584909710
*slaps yo butte then smooches ur lips and then body slams u on the floor then sits on your face and wiggles my wide hips while sitting my giant butte on ur face*
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Hold on everyone.

Why are we even trying to get to 2800? That raid is going to be discord troonery with the most obnoxious dumbfags that fly into a rage if you dont know the raid 100% at the start.
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>>584908991
On that sword currently, not really
Think the crystals to do it aren't actually accessible yet aside from a couple in the season shop, so you're only doing it on one piece for a while
But I actually enjoy PvP in this and intend to keep developing that as my main weapon for it, so I will eventually get a lot of use out of that slot

For others, if you're going to fall for the crafting meme, that's where you'd want to add the slot
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lets check the ranking for non gear equalised arena
lets take a gander at the #1 winrates and their gear
big think
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>>584910041
just play with your guild
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>>584910075
only 1 % of members in any guild here will reach 2,8k gearscore.
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>i'm f2p
>did you buy the sub?
>yes
>ok well you're not f2p
>absolute shitstorm ensues
I did not expect that when I posted it but funny nonetheless
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3% of my guild is already 2.8k gs
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>>584910075
>just get casually 10 players together every week regularily that actually meet gear score and coordinate them
If FF14 showedcme one thing its easier to herd cats.
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>>584909710
Nah, sub is pay to play. You pay, you get access to the game. P2W is paying for power/ skipping content. 2x rolls on cubes, more energy, market access. All designed to make you progress faster and/or avoid grinds.
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>3 weeks in and literally almost nobody can do t4
>he thinks his guild can run ludra
im laughhhinnng nigggaaa
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>>584909875
Would help if every MMO general didn't have seething xivtroons tell everyone to come to Balmung.
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the fact it's you who dies if a teammate fucks up on horn den is completely retarded
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>>584910072
Worst winrate in my class top 10 award
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i want a whip sword for my templar
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>>584909778
you would be hard-pressed to find people with lvl20 stigmas doing gugu.
>>584909782
don't fall for the bait. a healer make the run much comfier. gugu can be annoying if the team lured a lot of monsters to the fight, a healer solves this issue.
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>make a fire temple lobby as a dps with a dps friend
>100k and 105k combat power
>actually get consistent enough applicants to do two pities' worth of runs
i was actually expecting to sit there all night and give up since it was just us two non-chanter dpses. are all the gatekeeping horror stories i hear from EU or something?
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>>584909261
So FPS are shit games now?
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For all the male posters here do any of you look like this IRL?
https://files.catbox.moe/zp43sg.mp4
If you do please reply and please be on Lumiel NA east server
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>>584910459
idk but truly all you need to do is either ask the guild or if you dont have one or are shy to just make your own group and there will never be an issue. even on my shitty low geared alt I have never had any issues with gatekeeping by doing that
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>>584910326
imagine typing all that out to still be wrong
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>>584910478
lmao you disingenuous faggot
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>>584910435
you only need 5 points for 2x block and 10 to move while blocking
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>>584910435
Thanks for the advice breh
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>>584910621
Imagine playing mental gymnastics to win internet arguments
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>>584909710
i implore u to reconsider
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holy kino
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conquest = ffxiv lvl 100 dungeon
t4 = ffxiv normal raid
ludra = ffxiv extreme trial
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>>584910931
ludra is roulette. look at a video its baby tier.
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>>584910682
that can be hard to manage without a healer and I meant to say lvl20 lunge stance to reduce CD. and in gugu everyone always lures a lot of extras to the fight, it's not rare for gladiators to have difficulty in managing it.
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>>584910498
>a2g has no hot guys
wtfffuggg!!!
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https://youtu.be/3SHTdYDTQWo?is=IsXsFs15hWd8RsYZ

Holy shit ourguy cooked our game and I can’t even say he’s wrong.
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>>584909710
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>>584911025
most of hardcore aion 2 players are lost ark/tnl refugees that would not clear a savage within its patch cycle letalone ultimate
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>>584910931
its a mobile game. what DO YOU EXPECT?
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>>584911117
that ugly ass freak stop posting him here bald ass 4 eyed soi beard looking freakoid
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>>584908153
I'm not buying any theo stones. Probably a million things better to spend kina on
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>>584910931
I'd say t4 is more like one of the 24mans and ludra is like a normal raid
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>>584910379
>vortex phase
>staying on the boss in melee while he targets someone else for dat uptime
>suddenly turns around and throws at me instead

I think if his actual target dies to an AoE he retargets and it's always me, and I'm left looking like the fuckup who doesn't know the mechanic
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>>584911117
he completely btfo aion 2
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>>584911117
See >>584895573
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so for this i need to run urugugu on exlploration solo
then waste energy
then hope i get chest piece from it
then hope more to get skin after extraction
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>>584911037
You just have shit taste in men I'd rather be fat than look like one of those effeminate gayboys
t. 6'4 200lbs and lifts every day
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>>584911117
>>584895573
holy organic reply! this video is poppin! that's /oooooourguy!/
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>>584911504
whats your routine king?
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>>584911434
or wait for it to show up in blackmarket and not waste energy
you're better off running conquest and making as much quna as you can right now before it plummets and 200 quna is 10 mil like on KR
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>>584911529
/our guy/ is stooopz doe
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>>584911434
Yes. Or pray black cloud merch has it
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>>584911434
Exploration mode won't give you the slutty bird outfit if that's what you're after. Conquest mode gives it.
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>fire temple is LITERALLY just dodge the orange circle and aoes
>not one single group mech
holy fuck.... what a piss easy slop...
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>>584908552
you never made it to trans
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>tfw i see this when im only missing 4 pieces and still have 2 pities left
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>584911504
let's see those abs and what's the hair and bank account status look like? no hair and no 6 figures = you're no longer allowed to reply to me anymore
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>>584911551
I used to do the arnold split but ever since I invested in home gym I just YOLO it and try to hit every body part at least once a week and whatever I'm focusing on 2x a week. I sit on the rowing machine and shitpost on 4chan for an hour when I wake up then lift whenever I feel like it
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>>584911602
no i just want faith set from exploration mode
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>>584911829
Ah I see well carry on then anon hopefully rng doesn't fuck you but it probably will
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>>584910498
I'm on EU sorry
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>>584911187
savage is easy enough once you get through the mouth breather pugs in that game. doubly so if you install all the third party add-ons that solves all the mechanics for you like the raid of the remaining raider population
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>>584911739
My hair genetics are godly and I'm retired. But I'm also taken so I'm not interested sorry
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>>584911616
you learn to appreciate it more after getting killed by pugs in ferocious horn den
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btw going by announcement the raid is suppossed to come out today or tommorow
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uwuguwu
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Motivate me to play the game today, faggot.
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>>584912093
is ferocious horn harder than FT?
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>>584912006
i didn't ask for excuses. post that pouch, fatty
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Hello!
where the heck do I get new bracelets?
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>>584904405
I am 2602 and only have the founder sub retard, I still have 60 gear score from Arcana to get and my guard is quest gear still, and I have 3 70 to upgrade, that would all put me at like 2750~ range, then I just need to upgrade few pieces of gear to +16~17, I already did that for 3 pieces even transferring from low item level cheap to upgrade things that had good soul binds for me, or I can even just buy some PvP board points.
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Watched the Ludra fight and this basically looks like FF14 Alliance Raids+
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chanter sissies we underestimated the assassin...
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Lost 1-3 but did manage to take a round off this whale in arena
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>>584912340
It basically is. Except you only get 4 pulls (attempts not clears) a week
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Gladbros I need some help.
>OHS base level is 14
>Got my Parchment pumping it to +15
How do I get the final level for OHS to 16? Chalice is way too difficult to get for me at the moment.
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>>584912328
Not alts either, and I have nearly 120 cubes worth of runs to open.
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>>584912328
so you have better gear than someone who has crafted weapons? >>584912365
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>>584912490
Weapon or Acc rolls.
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>>584912496
>120 cubes worth of runs to open.
how? have you not opened a single cube since launch?
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>>584912505
That guy is 2412 item level so yeah he's further away than me from even entering retard.
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>>584912710
>>584912328
>>584912496
yawnnn dont believe you in fact i dont believe any aion 2 faggots who love to gaslight
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Is Templar fun?
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>>584912646
How do I get those? Are you referring to manastones? What stones do I use? Currently using the Vakron stuff. What do you advise I do now?
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>>584912662
Not that guy but I am 1900 and I've never opened a cube before. I got a couple sniped from me right before I opened them when I was leveling and never tried again. Gathering/Cubes are too fucking cancerous since they're open to everyone
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>>584912351
>Templar
I am of the opinion that Templar + assassin = good combo assuming both players know how to play their class
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>>584912710
>That guy is 2412 item level so yeah he's further away than me from even entering retard.
>full fire temple and horn den gear +15 + 3 amp every gear (its 20 million kina each piece btw)
>has crafted ewapon at +15 amp 3 too
>cant reach 2,8k still
thank you for proving my point
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>>584912365
>2400
>with ebony gear thats ilevel 90+
Hows that even possible? Is it a bug?
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>>584912959
this is just impossible unless youre not equipping arcana or something
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>>584912264
it's only as hard as your teammates make it.
you can run flame temple with shitters and laugh at them dying over and over again while doing your own thing and being compfy. probably the worst way a teammate could troll is by dropping aoes around you.
in ferocious horn den, you can play perfectly, but your teammates fucking up mechanics can kill you and cause wipes. when i say your teammates fucking up mechanics, i mean a mechanic that can specifically target you, and, if your teammates aren't doing things right, you die.
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>>584912795
Is it fun to be kicked out of a million parties because they have a glad?
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>>584912272
I'd rather kill myself than post selifes on 4chan anon
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>>584912662
I just don't run enough dungeons, I've run more in the last 2 days than I did the weeks before just intruding and carrying retards.
>>584912792
>>584912959
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>>584908552
>Complains about macro
>Chain dies on t3 bosses
Stfu
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>>584913151
>that low combat power at that gearscore
>spirit master
nobody will take you
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Finally time for the e-cancers to switch to "Aion 2 is the worst shit ever" after hyping it for 3 months?
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>>584912365
How is his ilvl so low but his cpower so high
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>>584913189
>xhe thinks xhe needs macro to do basic mmo mechanics
self-report
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>>584913065
>>584913314
No clue what's going on with the power but his gear was the real deal, looked him up because he could shred me in seconds, and I'm over 2700
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>>584913314
unironically must be a bug because al of that should add up to way more than 2800
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>>584913271
>korean devs lie to your face
>it releases
>its the most doggggggshit asss imaginable
>WOooowwW sTreAmerS arE tUrninG aGaiNst iT, wHaT???
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I keep zooming in.
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>>584912796
You can re-roll stats on gear. They have a chance to give you +1 to skills. Armor can give passives while weapons/guards can give active skills.

But I wouldnt recommend that bevause its RNG reliant and you need 1 gold piece to re-roll one stat.
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>>584913136
Are glads useful? I always pulled off of them as chanter
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>>584913470
i keep zooming in, too
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>>584912237
kaira in 1 hr
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>>584913271
it's just the standard mmo youtuber concent cycle
>hype the game up for views, cover everything
>milk the release
>once the views start dropping off shit on the game
>move to next mmo release to farm for views
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>>584913461
My favorite part is how they acted like cutting down the game from multiple required subs to 1 was the most generous shit ever
Meanwhile there's a 1 month battlepass that gives you a fuckton of odyle energy so it's basically mandatory. Yes I know you can buy it with quna but you won't be able to forever once inflation sets in and quna is harder to acquire. And besides that quna cost someone somewhere something so it's a deceptively gay system
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>>584912365
>that level on his stigmas
The absolute state of whales.
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>>584913271
i remember a lost ark youtuber did that as a last squeeze once his views started dropping
didn't get enough views from other games and tried to come back later
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I log into the game and have to nyerk off 3 times before I can play for a couple hours without getting turned on
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>>584912365
does he have all grey arcana lol
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>>584913271
Should've known the moment you saw Stoopzz shilling this game that it was doomed lel
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bwih
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>>584913545
please DO NOT bully glads
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>>584913954
Shugo gold gear is for morphing (and extracting if you're stupid/brave enough)
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>>584913745
This is why I'm investing im quna. I sell 2 million kinah whenever I can afford to so I have a massive stockpile when kinah to quna ratio gets inflated.
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>>584913343
I'm talking about shitters crying about the macro but eat every boss patterns
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>>584912365
how do you have all that gear and no stigma levels what the fuck
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>>584913261
Nigger the whales who first beat Ludra were at 120k.
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>>584914180
whales are retarded, more at 7
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>>584912365
>>584913756
>>584914180
>>584914249
no this guy just swiped best gear early game. atleast his crafted weapons then got carried in fire temple
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do alts just perma stay at 1400 and farm vakron?
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>>584914448
krao cave actually but yes
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>>584913990
I mean if glads can actually hold agro/tank I'd make one? I like the big sword aesthetic more.
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nobody is talking about what kind of strategy ncsoft deploys to pay their shills to advertise this slop.

you know you can get full benefit as streamer if you get partnered with aion 2? you get unique drops and boosts + stream raids from the official aion 2 channel + unique content creator title ingame etc if you become their shill

and if you dont do any of this you are at a MASSIVE disadvantage as a content creator on twitch. its like the game reflects whats happening IRL a two class system.
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>>584913314
he looks like he is missing almost 100 points from daeva boards, but im not sure what else there is, because he is definitely lacking something with that gear at 2400...
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>tfw no clique for the raid
it's so over for me bwos
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>>584913491
Alright brother, thanks. One more question. When would you say it's worth to start rerolling skill lines on gear? I heard soul codex is EXTREMELY limited, do I wait until Fire Temple level of gear? Wait till Ludra? When is it the best?
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>>584914073
It's kind of a lose lose doing that if you're a hardcore player because you're going to desperately need that kina to enhance your gear and reach 2,800. But at the same time if you don't do it your kina will be worth 0 quna in the not-so-distant future. Just jewish all around, you lose for trying to play the system and not just whaling.
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>>584914647
my goal is amp3ing all my weapons and accessories and then selling kinah for quna from there
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>>584914615
>isn't in the clique discord already
ngmi
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>>584914448
No, you need 8 characters and all of them need to be at least 2800 and have cleared ludra by the end of the season.
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>>584914602
its like the mafia
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>>584914694
Yea you should prioritize enhancements for sure. Anyone going straight to converting to quna is cucking themselves really really hard
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>>584912490
most people craft a gold chalice with overhead on it
look up how to do it there's tons of guides about it
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after i finish all this regional, sealed and camp shit i have to do it again in the rift?
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>>584914448
i aint exploring the whole map to get to 1400 again. just 900 and run draup. maybe i'll get the outfit in the process
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>>584914625
I only started re-rolling gear on 2100 Dungeon stuff because I will never touch crafting. Only re-roll stats on gear you knkw you are going to keep for a long time
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This looks like one of those XIV modbeasts with horrid face sculpts. Except it's all vanilla.
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>>584914795
But how. It needs 5x mysterious crystal and you can only buy them with season shop. And everyone says save for season wings or brick your account
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>>584914867
BASED
>>584914896
You just know a foid made that.
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>>584914934
3 from 4k ascension trial score
1 from season shop
1 from extracting cards
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>>584914934
you can get crystals by extracting arcana as well
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>>584912237
uhhh trans rights are human rights!
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>>584914934
You can get 5 crystals by breaking records in Ascension dungeon from the season challenges
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>>584915085
this is what I did.
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>>584915191
All you did was swipe, faggot.
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>>584914896
I never understold those facesculpts.

What are they trying to mimic? They look really outlandish with no real counterpart. Fir the kobgest time I thought they were mimicking asian scene girls but they look nothing like them.
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on what days does seige happen?
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lips
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>>584911715
??????????????????????
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>>584911715
>>584915670
explode
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It's been a fun journey but my brothers are calling me back to the DRG. Farewell for now and remember to punch an elf for me.
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never got gold shit from a dungeon, is my luck shit or i have to do the conquest
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>>584915085
>>584915092
>>584915130
Thanks brothers. Finna gonna be a gladchad now
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>>584915968
You gotta do conquest but also nobody gets shit from dungeons join the club
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>>584915956
;_;7
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>tfw play this game for 100 hours
>what's ultimately making me want to quit is how horrendous and mindless the gameplay is, not the numerous predatory p2w systems
people say all kmmos are the same but this is a first for me
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Would you raid with my cleric?
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So, do we all game together at some point?
Or is this just the advertisement for the trash thread?
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>keep increasing power and gearscore
>still get one shotted and feel useless
man this is so.... demotivating.. it sucks...
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>>584916247
Are you retarded?
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>>584916240
No
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>>584904520
Oh you have an ugly girl fetish?
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>>584916304
Are you?
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1900 must be the cutoff for the final bracket, this keeps happening
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tanked FT for the first time and I want to die(died 4 times) you guys make this sound so easy when eating one orange means im dead...guess im good now but that wasnt a free first time
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>>584916185
the mind numbing gameplay makes me much less willing to put up with all the rest
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Are all the EA founderfags 150k+ by now?
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>>584902765
idk about the worst but it is definitely up there
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>>584916294
press shift when an attack is about to hit you
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>>584916240
Yes
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>>584916561
135k but I'm also working 9-5.
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>>584916581
im talking about pvp
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>>584916561
I'm f2p and at 120k
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holy heck even at that ilvl assassins just one shots on repeat
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>>584916561
I'm not even 100k...
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>>584916776
isnt that pvp equalized?
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>>584916561
yea
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>>584916857
LOL
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>>584916857
Only battlefield is equalized iirc
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>>584916240
Nemon really needed to wear booty shorts holy fuck
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>>584916942
>>584916906
i thought battlefield = arena?
i know abyss is p2w
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>>584916942
That's false too
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>>584916857
no. a whale will straight up one shot you.
>>584917041
no.
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Am I missing something on crafting? The highest level weapon is 70 and that is only equal to fire temple drops. Doesn't seem worth it.
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>>584916561
107k...
>read the guide
I did, i dont know what else to do now besides afk for cubes to max genus
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>>584917095
click at the top left where it says transfer gears
yes the ui is that bad
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>>584917095
you can continue upgrading it and it has a 5th soulbind line
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>>584916776
>censoring names in an MMO gen
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>>584916857
>>584916942
>>584917041
>mfw you see people gotten gaslit by this trash faggot community
im laughing so fucking hard.
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>>584917095
Forever be bricked anon
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>>584917238
>let me schizo you
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i dont understand you people
what does it mean for gear to be bricked
where do i learn any of this
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Where can I find a faggot to suck me off while I'm busy farming.
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will you talk?
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>>584917195
>>584917228
thanks, I never would have seen that
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>>584917338
Read the guide
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>>584917338
You watch Korean CCs who have been playing Aion 2 for the last 12 months.
Global launch is solved bro don't waste your time with irrelevant shit.
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>>584917338
kmmo = p2w, harshly time-gated rat race where the faster you progress the further ahead you get of "shitters"
progress slower or less efficiently than other people = bricked
bricked = you're a 2nd class citizen and will be treated like a brahmin by everyone in-game
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>>584915670
Two gloves! One for each hand!
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ugh..
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I don't think the guide is absolutely needed, I only did one tranny 1 and got GS 2100
You people hard stuck are just retarded
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hay NC gooksies maybe put the DPS check at the start of the dungeon not the end :^D
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>>584916776
>sincucks have to cope to 1v1 because theyre shit in all other content
crine!
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how the hell you're craft as f2p
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>>584917284
What are you scared of in a social game?
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>>584917552
oh i thought it was something important. i do not give a fuck
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>>584917714
you wait till prces drop anon...
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>>584917714
You don't.
You need to sub.
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This any good?
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>>584916185
you've made this post about 30 times so far, or at least 30 people are now quitting the game in this thread
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>>584916404
what if I bring my alt along with me? She's a chanter
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>>584917714
I did it just fine. You just gotta be religious in mining all the mats. Assholes will start calling you a bot because you're stealing all their mats. Just block them.
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>>584917882
using the in game dps meter and not the dps meter in op youre a fucking waste of air
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>>584917882
yeah thats pretty good
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>>584918079
>mining all the mats
nigger you're not mining wrathful minds/egos and blue refining stones, and the drop rate on them is horrendous
you are paying out the ass to buy that shit on the market
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>>584918065
Ok your baddie sister can stay
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>>584918114
nta but is the in game one not accurate?
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>18 runs of horn den
>2 capes
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>>584918079
>another gaslight post
LMFAOOO. you faggots are so fucking annoying. fuck off.
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Anyone could confirm to me that NCosft copied FFXIV's Crystalline Conflict for one of their PVP mode in Aion 2?
https://x.com/YanYan2525yan/status/2111786507984056617

Or that's just AI generated bullshit?

inb4
>FF14 invented payload mode
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>no lobbies want to take my freshly minted 1.4k in 2 star conquests
:(
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>>584918781
>FF14 invented payload mode
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there are altgard commissions? like the abyss ones? am i retarded? i cant find them
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>>584918781
What makes you say that?
>>
The Vicious Cycle of a Broken Economy
The basic logic of any functioning market is simple: the more people selling, the higher the competition, and the lower the prices.

By locking the right to sell items behind a paywall, the game triggers a destructive chain reaction:

Few Sellers: Only players with a paid subscription can list items.

Reduced Supply: Fewer listed items cause immediate scarcity.

Inflated Prices: Without competition, market prices skyrocket out of control.

F2P Exclusion: Free players cannot buy anything or accumulate wealth.

Player Exodus: The casual base quits, servers empty out, and only pay-to-win players remain.

The Endgame Wall
As an endgame F2P player, it feels like being forced into a single-player mode. You invest dozens of hours, get rare drops, valuable gear, and high-tier materials, but you are forbidden from selling them. Your items sit rotting in your inventory while your progression is completely stonewalled.

The supply of active sellers is what determines a healthy price. Without enough sellers, artificial scarcity forces players to spend even more just to keep up with inflation. Ultimately, only those who already paid will keep paying, wiping out the casual player base and suffocating the entire server's economy.

Conclusion
Turning basic access to trade into a mandatory residency tax completely ruined the value of the time I invested. It is not worth staying in a game that does not respect your effort.

A game developed in South Korea, but operated under the rules of North Korea.
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>>584918781
Never played XIV because I'm not trans
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GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING ENERGY, /a2g/
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>>584918781
>FF14 invented payload mode
But yes you push a crystal and the map's layout is similar to Volcanic. There are also tornadoes that yeet you in the air like in C9, except they suck you in instead of knocking back.
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Fuck up nigger i hope your craft fails
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>>584919005
/pray
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>>584919005
BOOM
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>>584919005
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When is rift? Every 3 hours?
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>>584919005
>37
ANON NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>584918965
>He says while playing Korean doll simulator 2
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>>584918781
That clip is kind of a shitty video if they're trying to show how similar it is to CC in xiv, but yea it's pretty much a ripoff of CC. It's not just the payload they copy all the other shit too
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Do you need all 5 to be lvl 10 or just the first 4 to get the achievement?
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HOP ON UP! UP! UP! ... NYERK!
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i think i goon-whispered two females
they cared more about who i liked more rather than escalating
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>>584919267
Lol
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>>584919338
>he's thirsting after random people in an MMO
unironically ngmi
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>>584919094
If I take that off, will she die?
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>>584919401
You're just jealous he didn't whisper you
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>>584919432
it would be very painful
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>>584913271
threads gonna get comfier when the tourists go back, then we can enjoy for a bit until the game dies
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>>584919094
muzzle looks so good with the leather crop fit
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>>584919216
I wasn't aware there's troons modding and erping in town
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on my server asmodians are losing
these fucking losers are camping the only entrance for corridor
how fucking dumb is that
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>>584919506
She's a big girl.
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>>584919527
you are as much as a tourist leech as any other.
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>>584917714
If you are unemployed, retired or work from home dedicate about 4 hours a day every single day gathering mats. That or just cough up the 15 USD for the subscription and buy from the market place. Being free 2 poor in this game is mental illness.
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>>584919079
>>584919128
>>584919156
>>584919213
i-it's fine..
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>>584919681
Time to drop another 10m in minds!
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>>584919567
are you zikel (na east)?
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>>584919552
its weird because these people never plaed XIV and when I brought it up before, all the gooners who play girls said it was ugly as fuck and modding is gay

but then they go on about how lewd this game is, and how many cocks they "milked" and then it turns out they're just encouraging some guy to cum on discord, and they think this is passable for lewding
that gets you a block in XIV for being so low quality
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>>584919457
nah, i would instantly block anyone who "goon" whispers me
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>>584919750
it's 14M on my server...
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>>584919681
Is Crafting in Aion2 like it was in Aion1 where you need multiple crafts to crit to get the best things?
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>>584919751
no
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>>584919094
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i have once again made it to the first checkpoint
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>>584919845
yeah
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>>584919845
yes it's soulful to the original
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>>584919898
can somebody change them to be indian
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>>584919590
FOR YOU
>>584919535
it does
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>>584919552
are we really pretending there haven't been multiple penises posted itt and a couple avatarfags that spam erp trying to jerk off with other anons
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>>584919932
>>584919951
Then Anon here >>584919681
Is basically playing CBT simulator, spending all their money into a gamble where they will only get maybe 10 or 20% of what they put down if their craft fail?
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>>584919094
ugly as fuck
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>>584919094
cute as fuck
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>>584920097
yes he is about to waste a bunch of money if he continues on that path
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>>584919681
why would you try this craft without being max prof
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crafting is the real endgame
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>make cleric because there was never any in my party when I was playing chanter
>now there are too many clerics
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>>584918421
>he didn't play alts from the get go
Do you just afk in lobby and erp all day? You literally run out of energy so fast.
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>>584920213
I remember I did that for a Gladiator Axe in Aion1, I spent several weeks farming balaurs for parts will elyos farmed my ass, and had to pay someone to even attempt the craft just for it to fail and only got a shitty Blue one that was still better what I had but I couldn't still get the accuracy check I needed to never miss....

Maybe I'll stop my download of Aion 2, I feel like I'll just hate myself again for trying it.
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What's the least popular class? I want to feel special
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>>584919681
i don't get it, didn't you succeed?
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>>584920062
you have literal prostitution for erp and night clubs in XIV it's not even remotely the same as /trash/ troons who will quit aion 2 in 2 weeks
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>>584914448
no you farm expedition krao forever on all characters whoever has the most bound kinah is the strongest
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>>584918740
>he couldn't craft a god roll weapon at pro 35 without swiping
Pathetic.
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>>584920450
25% chance hit would have saved 15M in upgrades
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>>584920450
Didn't crit, so it's a "meh" weapon.
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>>584920432
Sin, you'll feel special alright
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>>584920461
gay shit is gay shit to me anon, sounds like you're coping
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>>584916561
I'm f2p+ with only sub and I'm at about 350k
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you can suck cocks in every mmo
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>>584920481
Why expedition? Wouldnt conquest be better since you get a bit more money and every 21 runs you get a pity.
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>>same fag retard forced cancer spam list
dead game (steam chart shitter)
games too boring
games too hard
games too easy
all characters are ugly (never posts their own character)
you only make bimbo characters (hates white women)
you only make loli characters (hates asian girls)
>>games too grindy
>>games too expensive
not enough to do
>>too much to do
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>>584920626
ok but what about your global version account?
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>>584920369
>playing alts from the get go
This is why your main can't run Tranny 4 and gets farmed in Abyss
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>>584920429
oh no getting the weapon at base isnt that hard and future upgrades past this step cant fail
theres some rng but if you dont like it theres plenty to buy on the market
the thing is that since game is relativly new the materials to upgrade is CBT tiers of expensive
unless your a whale going for the crafted weapon will unironicaly brick you since its not that much better than the dungeon equivlant unless you giga juice it
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>>584920450
You have to succeed, proc a 25% chance and then succeed again.
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>>584920429
I was the third angel at max level then had to craft the best gear which was like 1/7 chance for each party and i quit quickly after.
a friend of mine did his crafts and then helped an e-girl he met do hers which failed a great many times.
hes a shaman now and not in WoW.
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>>584920626
Jesus Christ you gacha niggers are insufferable, f2p means no money spent stop coping
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>f2p+
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>>584920626
>I'm f2p too guys
>I just uhh... spend money on the game
>but I'm totally f2p
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no one cares about your free2poor turdworlder feelings
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>>584920932
yeah, me too!
were all f2p here, spiritually.
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>>584920964
the f2p+ shows his true colors
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>won another argument i made against myself
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I'm f2p. I only spend on cash shop skins.
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>>584920626
>>584920878
>>584920932
getting flashbacks to lost ark days, when people were swiping like crazy but still claiming f2p because there was 1 thing they refused to buy.
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what the fuck is free to poor +?
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>>584920729
I was just joking
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>>584920964
good goyim keep spending money on the ai sloppa
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>>584921030
I'm f2p too. I sold all my CSGO cases and used the steam bucks to buy the membership
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>>584920878
still better than people who define themselves as "casuals", and play 2-3h daily
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getting better at timing the last second switch
you can wait until the text disappears before moving
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>>584921141
>idiot
lel
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>>584921139
2-3h daily is absolutely casual for a kmmo
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>>584920756
>>584920824
>>584920932
>>584921068
>>584921069
sub only is f2p+

>>584921141
DAMN evil ahhh little nigga
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>craft failed
time to quit. bye
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>>584921141
seems like the only way to enjoy this one.
I did 3 of all of them for the achievement and my favorite by far is up up up.
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There's people in the thread right now posting with $400 in cosmetics and dyes and that's just their main.
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>>584921317
ok bye. see you tommorow
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>>584921271
>daily
That's not casual

>>584921298
Retard
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>>584921141
i love it
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>no more energy in the mail
Fuck you, gooks!
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>>584921139
>work+commute = 10 hours
>sleep = 8 hours
>food = 2 hours
>4 hours left in the day
even if you're a wagie, yes, 2 hours a day is casual.
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>>584921317
31st person is now quitting the game from /a2g/ can we get an applause all these people are quitting
>>584921423
Damn, that's a quit moment right there. The G word!
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>>584921341
>mean while as f2p+
>have made 500+ dollars in quna with only spending 15 USD
feels good to be aion 2 R I C H
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she's tiny..
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>>584921359
cope
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>>584921139
It took an 30min-1 hour to get a party going in Aion 1 for Dark Poeta and another 1-1.5h to clear the dungeon.

For an MMORPG it is casual as fuck.
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>KR+TW players gatekept this trick
>People crying about it not being taught or explained
>All you had to do was read
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>>584921505
too bad you can't do anything with that except buy the battle pass or buy kina back at a better rate in 6 months.
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>aion 2 is so bad people are quitting left and right before our very eyes
wtffff
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I want an alt but I can't bring myself to lvl up and clear sealed shit all over again
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>>584921606
oh you mean i buy and enhance the gear that whales buy out at utopian prices ot rerolly their shit?
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>>584921505
the funny thing is that you cucked yourself because that quna will never be relevant for anything and now you're down a shitload of kina that you're going to need to upgrade your gear
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I went to the Abyss world boss spawns today.
>Asmodeans had more than twice the amount of people compared to Elyos.
>Asmos killed their boss in the time Elyos got ours to 70% hp.
I'm transferring to Siel. If I can't then I'm rerolling Asmo. Elyos will eventually be unplayable.
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>>584921751
****FAAAAAAAAH****, only thing left to do is quit.
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>>584921606
what fucking server has gold gear at 300k
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>>584921751
i want an alt and hate my main but i've already filled up my 4 free slots and have to wait a whole day to delete one of my alts (that i also don't really like)
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>>584921783
Yes, you upgrade the 36 piece to +15, roll your stats, transfer it to 86 gear and save trillions of kinah

>>584921878
None now that this is out in the free, why do you think the prices shot up?
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How can I check how many times I've ran a certain expedition?
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>>584921952
>now
bro it has been like this from the start
your secret tech is useless
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>>584921606
Why would rolling stats on low ilevel gear be cheaper than on ilevel 86 gear? Dont you need the same tier fodder on it?
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>>584921952
>why do you think the prices shot up?
Breh this is just what the prices are like, the whales sped up to 45 and bought up all the early supply
This is like that literal Gigawhale guy saying yeah he paid to win with his $15k but it was also smart buying on the market, when he and the other whales cleaned out the market with their infinite money and wrecked it for everyone after
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I would take Cat's ass (the foid from /bpsrg/ on Zikel)
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Ugh give me the damn birdslut skin already game come on
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>>584922212
I guess that instead of resetting you can just trash the item and get a new one
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>Dps: Do damage, dodge patterns, do mechs
>Cleric: All of the above, time buffs, keep general heals, save heals to clear debuffs especially in fire temple, perp heals when dps is about to tank a huge mech which is hard to dodge (if I get targeted I die because nobody can bail me out)
>Dps think that runs that go well are like that by default and not their cleric.
Headpat your cleric
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>>584922357
Do not talk about my GF like that
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>Spend 1.8m on wings
>0.3k combat power
Well that was a scam.
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>>584922505
But you have cool wings now
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the WHALES #ViraQuittingMoment

they are fucking us! they've been ahead the WHOLE time!

Remember...when Korea, said there would be ZERO P2W? They promised. #FightBack
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>>584922452
Sorry Hiraku
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>>584921606
worthless info
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>>584922505
Which wings? I spent less than a million for the Forrest ones
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>>584921606
I genuinely hate youtubers who apparently played on TW for a year. They don't know how to explain shit. Their either retarded or gatekeepers.
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Stagger output > DPS
Discuss.
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>>584922754
Love ones, I already had the forrest ones. I'm thinking of the black pve wings but it's like 4.5m in odyle... and I suspect the combat power gain is going to be low.
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leveled an assassin alt all the way to 45
no parties take me to dump energy
i do fucking shit for brains dps and get ganked at melee range with sorc level defenses
what is this dogshit class? who is this for? give me my time back
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>>584922773
you should hate them for giving shitty outdated info that doesn't work on global like their auto attack macros, third party macros, and bad genus board reccs
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>>584922617
I like how the TW/KR goiks cane over because of massive p2w on their releases just to come here and p2w on global too.

Its lime they dont understand that their disgusting behavior is the reason why their releases got so bad.
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>>584922856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozMcA4Izn2U
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>reached lv45
Let's go!
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>>584922856
Nigga all your alts should be chanter/sorc/cleric for easy parties.
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>>584922427
Blame the game design. The gane makes sure you can do everything without healer and having everything hit like a wet noodle until 700 dungeons. It doesnt help that you can clear content without clerics up to 2100 dungeons either.
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>70k requirement
>80k
>declined
i might hate this game desu
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>>584922427
> save heals to clear debuffs especially in fire temple, perp heals when dps is about to tank a huge mech which is hard to dodge
That is me, except I'm a tank who has to bail you shitters out since you're all garbage.
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>>584922895
I haven't found a single good video by them. I'm literally just learning it first hand on how to be efficient.
>Abyss corriders is a free 50k abyss points every 3 days for me. Barely mentioned besides on super small niche channels.
>golden chalice = 4k on hard mode of that game mode, disenchant cards for 1 free, buy one from shop.
These things are very easy to explain but some anon linked me to some rambling oriental who took 15 mins to spit out that chalice point.
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>>584923158
I get declined too...
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>>584923092
>swiping for outfits before even hitting max level
Do people really
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>>584923235
I'm working on a tank. They've got some skill that gives the whole party shields which is good but once again every single guide is shit in this game. Swapped to a new build, squishy as fuck, mana hungry and damage is a bit above average at 1400 range.
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>>584923132
sorc is not an easy party, you're the 2nd weakest dps behind sin?
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>>584923406
>swiping for outfits before even hitting max level
I did day 1 as soon as the shop was unlocked before I even knew I was going to play longish term.
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>>584921606
I literally said this a day or 2 ago and nobody responded to me.
reroll stats on junk gear until you get something useful, resetting with a new piece of gear when it gets too expensive.
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I have spent 40k USD on this game.
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>>584923406
gooners swipe first and play later
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>>584923516
I cannot imagine what your finances look like
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>>584923504
>you're the 2nd weakest dps behind sin?
That's a straight lie. Sorcs are by far the best dps in the game, I haven't seen a good chanter outdo a good sorc, I'm on the tier 3 conquests.
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>one more item will do
>one more upgrade will make me steonger surely
>grinding this will give me the edge ocer others
>get to abyss just to pvp die in 1 second
im 145k combat power
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>>584923406
there was something called early access, a few hundred thousand people paid for outfits
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>>584923613
Buyong skins is a hit but if that's it you're okay, it's paypigging for power which is a problem.
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>>584923673
uhhh your pvp gear?
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>>584923590
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>>584923769
i bought all pvp skins too. The 40ks ones. it doesnt do anything
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>>584923406
>swipe
Pretty sure a lot of the troons ITT just saw the early dungeon income and thought it'd be a good idea to sell most of it on the market

>meanwhile, at end game
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>>584923735
Idk maybe I'm just built different. I never pay for cosmetics in games like this because I can just go mod skyrim or bg3 or cyberpunk or some other game to have basically any outfit I want for free
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>>584923919
This shit pisses me off, how have they not fixed it yet, what the fuck are they wasting their time on
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>>584923891
i just like making my character look like a slutty whore so it's fine
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>>584924098
AGP fags disgust me
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>>584923891
This >>584924098
I court creepshots and whispers
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>>584924043
it keeps the streamers happy
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>>584923891
i wonder what your finances look like
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>>584924098
Maybe it's a difference between me doing it for me and you doing it for others. I guess. Idc what people see in my character, my character is for (Me) not (You)
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Anya definitely rmts btw
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wtf is with clerics not taking rez? It's literally all you're good for.
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Any confirmed mtf trans anons on Neze? Need to know (certified chaser)
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>>584924297
why do you think?
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>>584924362
idk probably some guide is telling people not to.
the most popular assassin guide pre-launch told them not to take their version of block, and now all the sins are being gatekept for sitting on the floor and doing no damage.
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>>584923919
the eu experience
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>>584924362
i always take rez im stuck in tranny dungeon 2 because im not 2100 yet.... no one in guild wants to play it :{
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>>584924497
200k combat power definitely f2p~!
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>>584924231
? Between my wife and I we bring home upwards of 200,000 burger dollars per year. I'm just frugal because I grew up stupendously poor. Idk what that has to do with buying cosmetics in games thougheverbeit
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>male adds me to friends and spams group invite
>says they want to marry me
>keeps asking for instagram
>say i don't have one
>"why? you fat?"
That was my quitting moment
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>>584924379
all the trannies are on zikel, sani
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>>584923841
its a good idea though?
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>>584923406
>he didn't boughted
Ngmi
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>>584924557
Well? Are you?
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>>584924557
tranny freak.
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>>584923257
>golden chalice = 4k on hard mode of that game mode, disenchant cards for 1 free, buy one from shop.
what's this??
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watching streamers play this game is so fucking boring
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anya gimme your rmt connect please
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>click the screen
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>>584924557
So you're fat lmaoooo
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>>584924794
arcana transmute, golden chalice, needs 5 mysterious crystals, you get 3 from 2k 3k,4k score in ascension trial , you need hard mode to get to 4k
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>>584924890
Not him but make as many alts as possible to make kinah solo
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>>584924868
it's fun to watch their whale groups do dungeons and feel superior if one is lagging in damage
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>>584924794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhTuwPH1co
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>>584925008
200k combat powers = all alts f2p bro TRUST
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>>584924868
unless it's an esport and they're a top 1% player, yeah no shit. most streamers aren't entertaining or interesting which is why they get no viewers.
it's fucking annoying that all these eastern games run drop campaigns every week though.
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>f2pers farm thousands of quna
>all they can buy is a gimp muzzle
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>>584923657
you haven't seen any good chanters then
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>>584925049
You're at a disadvantage with f2p versus a subscription
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>>584924970
anyone know if 5k is easy to get with nightmare mode? I could craft but I don't wanna spend the season points.
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>>584925008
i have a couple alts but i buy too many skins in the black market..kek
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>>584925149
>f2p
>quna
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>>584925170
yeah they weren't holding macro hard enough
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>don't like first, second, third, or fourth class I try
>now i'm not allowed to play the game for 24hr
wow sick game
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>hold all 3 artifacts
>all of them are giga camped by the enemy
nice
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nyerkin time
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>>584924970
>you get 3 from 2k 3k,4k score in ascension trial
Where do you see this?
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Without sounding bitter what is wrong with rmt?
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>>584925468
Thanks for the easy abyss points fuckoo, as you teleport in i get to kill you in the loading screen
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>>584925558
Season missions under challenge
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>>584925592
It's for N-words
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why havent these normies gotten tired of the whole nyerk faggotry 3 weeks later
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>>584924379
louky in nez. ask sani if you can rail his boyfriend (he loves to watch).
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>>584925707
Which nyerk faggotry, kru?
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>>584925592
facilitates botting which makes the game worse for everyone but the people RMTing
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>>584924379
Sol and half of FunAllowed
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>>584925707
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>>584925838
>Already outed as an ankle biter part of the same guild
This is sad. It's always a jealous guildy hating in the general.
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Why did Trannies gravitate towards Asmo
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>>584925838
phew thank god im the other half
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>>584914602
if you notice after their war on atriea or whatever event all of a sudden every single streamer is -9k viewers
stupid chinks make it too obvious



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