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>previous thread >>584933123
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
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REMOVE THESE
F U C K I N G
TALENTS
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CLEAR COMMS
CLEAR COMMS
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>venruki is eliminated almost instantly

so he just gave up right because this has been on too long? no way venruki just loses like that
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to be fair to the organizers, it wouldnt have lasted this long if the hunter bow wasant nerfed, penance wasnt nerfed, autoshots/wand getting nerfed
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>>584945452
they were 15% in classic btw
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>2028
>Lash vs Desmond duel is still ingoing
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>he isn't using Desu as his surname
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>>584945452
wuts the issue?
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>druid vs priest fight is still going on
they should deathroll to decide the winner
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>>584945501
Bad matchup and his mortar backfired
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>>584945556
gives healing specs infinite mp
absolutely fucking braindead in both pve and pvp
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WoW Forever: The Forever Duel
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>>584945518
shaman/paladin did not have mana regen in classic. priest and druid did.
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Mages suck.
I thought they were supposed to be the dev's favorite?
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>>584945518
shaman didn't have mana regen in combat in classic, at all
only priests and druids had that
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when are they adding body types that look like me?
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Reminder druid rejuv ticks for 140 in full gear lmaooooo, perfectly balanced
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>>584945452
balanced around the new 60 content 3-5min kills
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>>584945612
they were, 20 years ago
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>>584945409
the recipe is from a vendor in dustwallow marsh
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>>584945147
forever isn't going to have fights that last 7minutes retail bro, only the last boss of a raid/40man bosses will have more than one phase
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>>584945618
never, play diablo
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> priest/druid duel is still going on

The mana changes are unbelievably retarded. Mana should matter for ALL casters.
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No more mages left. Lmao.
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MAGES OFFICIALLY ENTERED THE KEK SHED

WARRIORS WELCOME HOME
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>>584945612
mages are strong if people doesn't have a full frost resist set
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>>584945703
not anymore, it got moved and people didnt find it and the ones that did hid it till the last couple days, its now a rare drop from the whelps in dustwallow
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>>584945771
arcane mages ate shit too
mage is just bad
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>>584945656
but i really liked the long fights of classic
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>>584945771
>mages are strong
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>PALLY VS DRUID

oh good another match that will go on 30 minutes
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Pshero so tired he almost forgot poisons
Overtime bois
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>>584945452
they had to be buffed because you can't play around ticks in forever to gain benefit of spirit, the issue isnt mana regen, its that +300 healing at level 30 is fucking insane, they need to halve the effect of +healing
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>>584945869
>Classic
>long fights
bwuh?
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>>584945612
1 mage was outplayed by a rogue
the other 3 lost to hunters in the hard counter
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>warriors lasted longer than mages
lol
so much for being the top tier duelling class
no wonder no one played them on beta
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>Warriors hunters and shamans
Have fun because they actually do damage and need to kill or be killed
>Every other class
Shit damage output so they drag out every fight to fucking infinity until you fall asleep
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>>584945556
they wuined my stweamer tawny that got hyped up on weddit
i thought dis was my new epic gamer poggers game, im gonna be the faker of wow foweverrrrrr
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>>584945905
my guild didnt run with world buffs
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>>584945827
Until 60 where arcane mage will sheep you and blow you up in two globals. Mage has always been bad at 30. Mages and rogues are going to be unbelievably overpowered at 60 and with gear.
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did sodapooping get the 5,5k for best druid?
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just give Lash and Desmond both 2500 each and end this
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Pshero time
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>>584946045
justwoo got this
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So when does this pvp tourney end so I can come back to the general and not read nothing but
>muh favrit strummer says/did/is
?
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these niggas must be trolling
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Femtroll shaman or male orc shaman? Which one? I'm going resto.
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>>584945882
>Pshero so tired he almost forgot poisons
That's just his alzheimer's. Old age is a bitch.
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>>584946010
>https://raiderio.com/events/the-forever-open/brackets/finals
No. Minpojke is higher.
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which druid isn't in the kabal
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>>584946096
they swapped to losers brackets before the semifinals even happened so maybe 2 more hours
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>>584945452
nice job Fatggrend
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>>584946109
Always orc if it's a shaman.
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The druids and priest are purposely dragging everything out. DQ them all.
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holy shit rogue vs rogue is retarded
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How hard would it be to code in a “Group Duel” selection under the usual Duel option?
Let 2 parties duel each other. Then you can simulate arena-like small scale group pvp which is a lot more interesting than 1v1
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are they going to fix layering being abysmal dogshit before release?
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>pshero
washed up balkek
stick to greykilling in duskwood you nappy haired 3rdy
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>lose despite having the opener
pshero bros? your response?
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>all the streamers are giving up

kek raped
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>>584946238
every matchup is retarded
it's classic dueling
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>>584946284
Layering is a price you must pay for mega servers.
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ps shitter absolutely humiliated in a mirror matchup
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pshero staying awake for 18 hours for a cheap shot miss lul
lvl 30 duels were a mistake
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this has been genuinely hilarious, glad I stayed up to watch this dumpster fire
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>>584946109
Femtroll shaman, and gank human male paladin(me) in tanaris
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FUCK YOU PSHERO HAHAHA!
/spit
/spit
/psit
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>>584946284
>are they going to fix layering being abysmal dogshit before release?
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>>584946284
layering has been dogshit for 7 years
they're not fixing anything
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KEK that rat got what he deserved
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>>584946284
The real beta begins once the game "releases"
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>20 hour stream to lose to a bad dice roll
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pshero? more like pisshero lmao
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>just two warlocks in the lower brackets
>somehow they're OP
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man, rip hero
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it ended
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>>584946358
i would prefer smaller national servers
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>>584946448
>ignores the 2 warlocks in the upper bracket quarter finals
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>>584946402
and crz has been dogshit for 10yrs which is what forever uses
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>venruki and pshero got eliminated in under a minute
>pilav, payo, pika and so many others didnt even make it to the top 36
>soda gets fear raped by not snutz
>cdew gets clapped by nonnie pally

how many excuses will the streamers have tomorrow anons? even with all the handouts they got from fans and devs they are getting assblasted kek
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>>584946326
he was never good. typical zombie rogue camping level 30s in stv and gets rolled vs anyone actually good at the game
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>>584946448
Nigga named Soapoopin
Nigga named Denmark
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>>584946548
Total
Streamer
Death
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so who's the top mage, or are they gonna have more duels to decide.
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soda won the 5k already
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>>584946284
you deserve liquid shit being sprayed into your mouth and splattering into your eyes for 10 hours a day
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>>584946527
Globohomo is here.
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>>584946667
wait I forgot about min
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>>584946667
there's a druid in quarters nigga
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>>584946667
>streamer privilege is real

it should go to Minpojke he beat his warlock while Soda got raped by one
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Why do rogues and Druids do these opener theatrics like approaching from large distance when they get gifted free openers anyway
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>>584946667
Germanicus would of won the best druid if he applied, had people buying him gold and had no job like soda
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>>584945618
i look like this btw
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>>584946548
>cdew gets clapped by nonnie pally
wasn't cdew an actual pro at some point too?
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>>584946667
bwo?
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>>584946778
Because you can get spotted and taken out of stealth.
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Druid versus priest bets?
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>>584946850
he won multiple blizzcons and then turned into a degenerate gamba streamer because people stopped giving a shit about wow pvp
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priest druid hype!!!!
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>>584946768
the warlock pojke beat was an actual mongoloid thoughbeit
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based shaman fucking pink sissie
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I dont care about the losers, get on with it.
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>>584946949
Nobody gave a shit about wow PvP, blizzard just wanted to push their esports and all ventures failed.
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>>584946881
but interrupting them is strictly verboten anon
>>584946949
kwab
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>>584946890
druid might have the advantage with chili
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>>584947018
every warlock is
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Chad hunters fighting to the death with zero class sustain and full caveman dps
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lmao priests lost every matchup
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>>584944735
>jaff hated hybrids because....well it came to me in a dream!
who invented this schizoid meme
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>>584947109
shroud said it best if you want to play a competitive pvp game you dont play warcraft you will play an actual game focused on pvp because the entry to getting into wow pvp is too high
>have to level
>have to farm gold (or buy it)
>have to buy thousands of items and consumables
>have to farm pvp gear by doing hundreds of bgs against shit players

meanwhile in league you just install the game and can start playing competitively right away
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whats the deal with class opener prio? free stealth openers, why not just duel like normal
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Why didn’t they just have the tourney set up so that the top 16 would be 2 of each class? The last 4 tiers of bottom board duels and the last 3 top tiers are going to be warlock warlock warlock
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>priest hard counters paladin in classic
>gets shitstomped by paladin in forever
You love to see it
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>>584947369
lots of strength from stealth classes comes from their opener, its the same reason everyone stands far apart from each other so melee isn't just instantly ontop of casters.
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>>584947369
its making it more fair
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>>584947369
well it makes sense for rogues since their entire class is built around having the opener to have a chance, but letting druids open from stealth (especially resto specced ones) is retarded
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>>584947369
Because if you don't allow openers then the stealth class will take a minute to roam around and guarantee it anyways. Plus its required for some of their class abilities to even function
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>>584947306
kings row is still the best map in the game though
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>>584947369
Don't want to make the duels take longer.
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>>584947369
for rogues and warriors it makes sense to give them openers. warriors would just get raped by slows if they didnt get an opener. why are druids given an opener though?
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>>584947306
Tigole and Furor both despised hybrids, Paladins most of all, because of biases they carried from EQ.
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what even is a hybrid? a hybrid of what?
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>>584944816
Holy shit pvp players constantly talk about how unfair it is that pve players got the best gear raiding over their pretend fights, that's how blizzard added pvp gear with resilience
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Losers bracket is suddenly being forced to do back to back duels because the host is retarded and didn't know how to plan the format properly.
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>>584947109
This. I've been to Blizzcon and even there the auditorium almost completely cleared out when the arena championships started. Nobody gives a shit. Even RTWF and mythic+ championships are far more popular.
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>>584947691
warriors
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>>584947659
and they were absolutely 100% justified.
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>>584946284
Uh this is a good thing because I had to fight someone for a mob one time actually
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>>584947720
tipsout is retarded and thought 50 pally, shaman and warlock matches wouldnt last 20 minutes
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>advertised for a month as the 100k tournament
>100k on the line touted by all the shills
>winner only gets 50k
kek
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>>584947764
Brownoids pay the hybrid tax now too sweetie :^)
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>>584947620
>and warriors
lol
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Alliance Warlock face off

Human Tailor Enchantor

>higher stats
>+2% crit baseline
>+5% spirit scales with Life Tap

Gnome Engineer

>better PvP
>Eureka! +10% damage does NOT work with DoTs
>+5% mana
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This priest soda is fighting is a massive fucking loser lmao
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>>584947770
What's the alternative? Remember
1. Blizzard are lazy.
2. Everyone will want to play on the cool server.
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If Soda wins, he's gonna go up against another warlock kek
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>>584947659
what bias? paladin in everquest was the least popular tank by a mile for much of game's lifespan before wow came out. everyone played shadowknight because they did more dps and warriors were by far the best raid tanks because they had absurd mitigation cds no other tank had
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> play feral
> still get to heal 100 times without running out of mana
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reminder we still have warlock/druid and warlock/paladin in the main brackets, 3 rounds each, and then the finals is 5 rounds. we have at least 2 more hours before this is over
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2 Swedes in the quarters btw. We always did punch above our weight
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>>584947913
Good, get shroom'd.
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>>584947865
have you never watched a tournament in your life you stupid faggot? 100k is all of the prize money, like every tournament ever held
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>>584947870
Less than druids and paladins, which means they're still the best tanks.
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>>584947909
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>>584947691
Warriors and clerics / necromancers.
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>>584947940
its almost like we're in the low levels before classes have to be more specialized in their roles.
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I'm liking dwarf shaman so far.
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>>584947659
They were smarter than all of the current WoW developers combined and made far better games. Especially Tigole.
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>>584947940
all druids are playing resto, it outclasses feral and balance
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>>584947940
>feral
There are no ferals left. They are all specced into healing/mp5 regen and catform is their only way of dealing damage.
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>>584945556
PvP duels are too boring to watch, class design should be based entirely on the entertainment of non-players.
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i hope they do a lvl 60 tourney with the exact same format so we can see how it changes at max lvl
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>blizzard nerfed rage for warriors because it was too much
>blizzard buffed mana regen for spellcasters
>matches now take 30 minutes

wow forever tournaments are dead in the water after this if they dont revert these things
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>>584947865
There's arguments for winner takes all the winnings but its normally better to payout to at least your top 8.
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>>584948192
I miss the period where people were actually running improved wrath and just spamming opponents to death with it
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>>584948278
dumb tourist
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>>584948006
>less than
>arms and fury both toothless wheelchair specs
>we just watched a druid autoattack into retaliation with zero fear and win
Lol
Lmao
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>>584948214
this is why i genuinely pog when i see a windfury proc but fall asleep seeing someone spam fear or polymorph
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where is swifty? he would wreck these shitters.
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>>584948361
>he thinks minigames matter
Your tank for every instance in the entire game will be a warrior.
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>>584948278
Aggrend doesn't like Warriors and listens to reddit who have been histrionic about Warriors since 2019. You're delusional if you think he'll revert any changes that buff them
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>>584948278
None of this will be an issue at 60, which you would know if you had played wow at all before
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>>584948265
I hope the developers grow a spine and disable all forms of PvP like they've wanted to do for the last 25 years. Just cut the cord on this shitfest and stop wasting resources on it.
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>*almost kills soda*
>FUCK
>hahahaa
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>>584948091
i look like this btw
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>>584948091
Streamers already debunked this
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>>584948214
yeah
it shouldve been 2v2 in gurubashi qrena tbqh
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>>584948557
they should just give it to the priest. soda isnt winning against a priest.
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>>584948597
>2v2
resto druid would be even more disgusting
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>>584948462
Why were they the best class in SoD then?
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>>584948458
Keep telling yourself that. The last warrior to get knocked out was prot. Hybrid tax paid at last :^)
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I wish WoW copied the class title upgrades you get for reaching certain level brackets like in EQ.
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what if there was a fortnite wall closing in?
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there should be a separate thread for this tournament spam
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>>584948710
would be cool but the technology isn't there
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HOTFIX TO FIX THIS DOGSHIT TOURNAMENT
>Once a duel begins, you are considered in combat until it ends.
NO STALLING
NO DRINKING OR EATING
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>>584948562
Damn you probably been on E for years sis, good job
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>>584948723
What would you like to post about
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>>584948557
Hes going to get fucked by a warlock anyway.
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>>584948790
im ftm :3
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>>584948676
only last phase because of legendary
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>>584948091
Water totem quest for dwarfes is total boring fucking giga cancer.
Loch Modan>Wetlands>Redridge>Wetlands>Ashenvale>Wetlands>Loch Modan>Westfall>Loch Modan
The wetlands location is by the dam as well, so even with ghost wolf that shit took forever. I get that they want to create journeys, but I thought I was going crazy by the end of it.
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>Hpal the most raped healer
>Protpal the most raped tanks
Prepare to see a billion fucking paladins begging people to tank/heal their dungeon
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>>584948778
>stealth classes cant pvp anymore
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nothin to see here, no stream sniping or anything https://www.twitch.tv/psherotv/clip/SingleTolerantSwanTwitchRPG-MtQvd6GMlA8NQwGl?range=7d
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>>584948676
because aggrend is so incompetent he cant even nerf warrior when he tries
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>>584947907
Human racial helps you against Rogue and you don't look like Gnome
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Alliance shaman or lock? Are the shaman dps specs as cooked as people are making out or is it just rumor mongering.

Also is there going to be a massive surge in people playing one of those classes that'd make it better to play the other?
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>>584948848
>only in the hardest raid in the game
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>>584948875
Yeah that shit is bananas. I can't remember if horde water totem quests are that long. I remember they're long, but probably not that long.
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>>584948778
No healing at all and also no stealth.
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Alex deserves that money
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>>584948641
it would be much more interesting tho
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>>584948778
>if you're stun you cannot be stunned again for the next 60 seconds
>if you're sheep you cannot be sheep again for the next 60 seconds
>if you're feared either by lock/priest you cannot be sheep again for hte next 60 seconds
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What happened to sodas duel? I thought lower ranks were single elimination why are they dueling again?
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Now that the dust has settled, how badly will Aggrend rape warlocks to make his streamer friends happy?
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>>584948936
It's retards baseding over half-assed sims based on incomplete information.
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>>584948882
Yes. There should be massive downsides for being able to go completely invisible. The game would be ten times better if complete invisibility wasn't an ability at all.
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>>584948936
>Alliance shaman
People will line up to suck your cock and beg you to join their groups no matter what spec you want to be.
>Are the shaman dps specs as cooked as people are making out
They completely gutted and ruined Ele shaman and are ignoring all shamans complaints and doubling down on it. Ele shaman is the worst dps in the game and it's not close.
Enh shaman is good, you'll have fun with enh.
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>>584949064
They hit 15 minutes which is a tie so now they are doing it again with sudden death rules (which changes nothing for 2 healers)
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>>584949067
sodapooping will spam his direct blizz contacts
we will absolutely see Warlock nerfs and Druid buffs, regardless of further developments.
Also some more shaman nerfs because why not
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>>584949064
they are single elim its just that druid cant kill priest. its his first priest fight and hes losing badly as I said would happen. they intentionally kept priests away from soda else he would have been eliminated pre top 36
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>>584949067
>scrotum so big she can have her testicles on her chest
new fetish unlocked
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>>584949064
No one died, so they gave them sapper charges and limit drinking. If no one dies again after 15 minutes or something like that, then they fight naked.
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Aggrend mains druid and paladin, he will make them overpowered for the entire duration of forever (2 months).
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lock moved up
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why is cdew so strong, is he just lucky with windfury?
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>>584948762
They could just steal the platform from Lich King's ICC fight, maybe.
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>>584949391
pally didn't have lay on hands because he used it last match
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will they change racialsbefore launch?
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>>584949391
he's black so aggrend rigged it for him
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>>584949429
why dont they just have an npc that resets cds? is it really that hard?
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>>584949389
>all tested with gear that doesn't exist in the game
woooooaaawww so useful
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>>584949463
it's 50/50
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>>584948882
HOTFIX 2
>Stealth can be used in combat, but you remain detected until you leave combat. Taking any damage puts stealth on CD for 6? seconds
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DIE SODA DIE
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you're at the bar and your gf gets sapper critted
wyd?
>>
soda raped
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SODARAPED SODARAPED SODARAPED SODARAPED SODARAPED SODARAPED
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>>584949463
hope they change them 2 weeks in or so just to fuck over metaslaves
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>another RMTer raped and gaped
lol
lmao even
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our gay boi lost...........
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>Soda raped by first priest hes fought

I fucking told you faggots. cdew is once again the last streamer holding out (he will be raped by a warlock in the grand finals)
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>>584949097
You're the guy that plays open betas the weekend before a Tuesday release and thinks that the game is going to change substantially in the next day. Tons of people have played the closed tests all the way to 60 and almost everything has been reported and datamined.
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SODA SEETHING Hahahahaha
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>>584949514
its only tested with gear thats in the game, thats why its lower, cant take into account new pieces
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>>584949463
I'm sure there will be changes, especially for the crit dmg ones but we probably won't hear about them until just before launch
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Soda lost
Olympus won
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>>584949463
They should just remove them from the game since they obviously cant balance them, saying they "balanced" racials by giving races 2% crit chance while others get 2% crit damage is insanely fucking stupid.
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>>584949391
>why is a blizzcon pvp champion winning pvp duels
yeah bro its luck
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>>584949097
>>584949149

Cheers. Yeah I figured it was partly sky is falling over reacting for youtube. Maybe ele will come right, maybe it won't but that solves the class question.

Just need to finalize realm and professions now and wait it out.
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>>584949603
but some people, even true gamers, are on the fence over a couple of different combos and the racials make the difference... nothing wrong with that...
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>>584949232
>testicles
>her
is this general full of american transitional fags?
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soda eliminated by a 1k sapper CRIT

hahahahaa
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>>584949665
we don't know the stats of even a single piece of level 60 gear, it all uses gear from classic which all has been changed
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>>584945612
Mages were the dev's favorite when the game was made by men.
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>Soda seething
LMAO
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>gets a bunch of handouts
>direct contact with blizzard
>still loses

AHAHAHA streamers are raped
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>resto druids getting washed
oh my god thank you
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who is warlockguy?
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Im glad that tranny soda lost.
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Okay, all my favorite streamers are out of the tournament because none of them rolled warlocks. Now what?
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>>584949804
Had the easiest bracket/road as well.
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This nigga thinks he's a bog.
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BROKEN
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>>584949910
cdew is still in the tourney though
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>>584949896
https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
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>>584949651
they could very easily change ele's coefficients if they are bad, it's not a complicated change
and please, show me all the datamined 60 gear
there is some but it's far from complete
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>>584949896
this chad
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>>584949758
hes a single piece of gear thats new and 60 we do know the stats of, you're wrong
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Why is the warlock wanding?
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>>584949994
This guy fucks black pussy
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>>584949982
>cdew is still in the tourney though
because he hasn't faced a warlock
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>>584949984
sovl
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>>584949946
they kept him away from priests as long as they could then he gets raped by the first one hes fought. these streamers are only perceived good because they get pandered to and free handouts
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>>584950046
For someone who is supposed to be in the top 1% of streamers, he sure looks like complete shit and unhappy.
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This tournament is so boring... so in the podcast they said they don't really care about 1v1, but it seems like Warlock needs a nerf, but on the other hand, they said they wan't every damn spec to be viable in PvE, so imagine they nerf lock.. how stupid would that be?
Fuck WoW Forever PvP with unlimited buffs, food resets and engi items, this is so fucking dumb. It should have been arena rules.
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>>584949946
I'm surprised more people aren't bringing this up. Everyone in Soda's bracket started playing WoW specifically for this event. He had the only bracket like that too. It couldn't have been more rigged.
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Soda is one of the only interesting people to watch duel, everyone else relies on bs

That priest should not have won, not glazing soda it’s just that priests and warlocks are fucking boring to watch duel. Particularly priests tho, fucking fags just dragging every duel out to 15 minutes.
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>>584950046
This guy gets fucked by black men while his "girlfriend" giggles in the sidelines
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>>584950004
lol ok fair enough I forgot about the PvP gear they added the other week, but my point stands
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>>584949389
>shaman
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>>584950138
>so in the podcast they said they don't really care about 1v1
not true, they said they nerfed ele specifically because of 1v1
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>>584950137
I don't blame him after having to participate in this degenerate tournament.
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>let locks use a fucking curse of shadows, elements AND agony all at the same time 1v1
>they're broken af
oh man who could have seen this coming
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>>584950137
thats what a mental bipolar gf does to a motherfucker
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How does a Druid even lose a matchup against a Priest? Priests have like no CC outside of Psychic Scream
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>>584950173
priests dragging out duels? the only reason druids get this far is because they are the kings of dragging out with cheetah and heals and ccs. love seeing druids get raped by warlocks
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>>584950236
both are true, they don't care about 1v1(and shouldn't) but shaman can also take another L
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warlockchads are our last bastion of hope against hybridfags
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>>584950258
As a guy who has dated them, it’s worth it. The sex alone is unbeatable. Then there’s the almost slave like obedience and nurturing. You just have to shut your brain off for the other side of bipolar part
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>>584950303
Even a warrior beat a priest.
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>>584950173
Yeah, imagine if penance actually did damage, the priests could actually end fights without having to oom the enemy
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>next 1v1 tournament will have 2000 warlock entries

no reason to play anything else in these tournaments
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>>584947964
kneel, swede
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>>584950248
>shadows and elements at the same time

you are retarded
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>>584950395
uhh hybrids all lost early, warriors and priests the 2 hybrids called out by the devs lost early
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>people were predicting that a random warlock was going to win the tournament out of nowhere
>the winner is just named "warlockguy"
Congratulations to everyone who predicted this
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>>584950425
I genuinely don't understand it.
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>>584950472
dumbass
the spell does both now
back to your eracuck containment thread
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>>584948936
Now that totems are raid wide, I don't think shamans will be as sought out, except if you're willing to heal. What got people skeptical are the pretty bad spell coefficients, but even at level 20 you got way more gear with spell power. What this means though is that you probably need quite a bit a spell power as enhance as well and while we don't know what the gear later on will look like, I'm a bit hesitant to commit to shaman currently.
If you only really want to dps, I'd probably go warlock, since alliance only has humans and gnomes that get access to the class.

>>584949389
This website is total vibe code slop. Not trusting anything from it.
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>>584950215
we also know the stats on crafted pieces, the old gear isnt encrypted, we can even see that stuff like HoJ and savage glad chain got nerfed, we can make pretty close educated guesses on dps, the only way it changes greatly is if theres some crazy busted items/legendaries that change the game, or some insane set bonus
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>>584950046
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>>584949993
All of the gear has been seen/reported/datamined it's just not being shown on the public websites yet because people don't want to break NDAs. The people that make both raider.io, mythicsim and most really popular mods have had access to the full closed Forever tests for well over 6 months.
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>>584950430
Penance shouldn’t even be in the game, and disc priests have been the biggest antagonists of fun PvP since TBC through the entire lifespan of retailslop
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<Daybreak Company> is casual raiding guild that will be formed on launch day. We are currently recruiting for a core 20m raid group that will be ready to raid once raids open in December.
>NA-RP / Alliance
>Raid times will be 530-830am CST Saturday (20m) and Sunday (10m)
>SR loot, no loot council/DKP corruption
>Meta builds, consumables, world buffs not required
>New guild, blank slate
>Tabard will be created day 1

https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X
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>>584950410
t. bipolar anglerfish baiting its next prey
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>>584950491
Hes going to be some astroturfed future streamer to represent the "forever" mindset.
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>>584950491
warlockguy is going to lose to neepzen I called it last thread. neepzen will win the entire tourny. he beat soda, he will beat azzu, he will beat cdew. neepzen could be claimed as the best lock after this is said and done
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>dying while your character thinks about slobbering on this demons cock

Fighting warlocks is a humiliation ritual
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>could’ve entered the tournament on my warlock
>opted out cause gfs birthday
It’s not fucking fair. Almost every single warlock I’ve seen has played like ass. I would’ve made top 10 for sure and probably pocketed some money
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>>584950526
>the old gear isnt encrypted
lol sure thing
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>>584950467
Theres also money for being to best of your class.
It's easiert to be the best of a class almost nobody plays than the class everybody plays.
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>>584948887
has any streamre reacted to this yet
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>>584950526
>the only way it changes greatly is if theres some crazy busted items/legendaries
there's gonna be a shitstorm when the ashbringer gets revealed
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>>584950137
No top streamer looks happy to be fair.
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>>584949113
No, give it to more classes. Mages get invisibility, Warlocks get plane shift, priests get a mind debuff that makes them invisible to the target, warriors get wind walk, shaman get an invisible spirit form, hunters get camouflage. Paladins don't get to be sneaky because they're too righteous, and bubble can serve a similar purpose for them.
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>shaman vs pld finale
How would everyone react?
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>>584950569
No I’m the only guy in this thread that’s had sex with more than one woman, quite a few of them manic bipolar blue / green /pearlescent white hair and they drain your balls so hard you feel it in your shoulders. I love them
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>>584949389
weave?
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>>584950681
>play wow
>have gf
pick 1
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>>584945784
>the ones that did hid it till the last couple days
God I hate streamers
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azzu and neepzen is bo3
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>A warlock has fallen
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>>584950303
>>584950495
Druid:
>never dies, drains all your cooldowns, runs away while whittling you down to nothing, has bad burst damage, and roots are more effective against melee and hunters than they are casters
Priest
>never dies, drains all of your cooldowns, runs away while whittling you down to nothing, has bad burst damage, and fear doesn't care whether you're melee or a caster
It seems pretty straightforward to me. Priest has an easier time get windows to actually finish off druid at this level range. No trinket, no berserk.
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>>584950823
Nope picking 2
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>Lock finally loses because by pure luck his net backfired at the perfect time

lol
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>>584950823
I met my wife in WoW lol
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oddwaffle is gonna beat all 4 warlocks to win the tournament lol
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>>584949391
ok maybe a bit of luck
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>>584950526
Hoj got nerfed to 1% but got flavor
>>584950812
running back and forth doing ranged and melee attacks
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cdew has windfury cheats on
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And just like that shaman got another 10k players.
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>>584950410
As someone who has done it as well: only worth it if you have a solid exit strategy to dump her and get her out of your life in a matter of hours.
The sex and slut behaviour are NOT worth actually bringing someone like that into your life.
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>>584950998
oddwaffle is going to get stomped by cdew and it wont even be close, should have just let the lock win
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>>584951037
that sounds horribly annoying
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>>584949492
chat is this true
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S H A M A N ' D
H
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja1j7xWpB3w
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>>584951037
you actually can't play dwarf in the level 60 1v1 tournament
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Cdew? More like cJEW!
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>>584951037
>when the guild rolls up to the all-dwarf RPPVP event with the HoJ setups
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>>584951065
it becomes a big problem in TBC removing deadzone because all the parsing hunters are using macros in the mouse and keyboard software to automate it, was a big deal a few years ago
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>>584951116
whats crazy is that I look like that
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>>584951116
futa is disgusting
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>>584950684
Why are you people who don't know what the fuck your talking about so self confident about not knowing anything?
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>>584951037
are they gonna let alliance paladins turn undead to balance this
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aren't druids supposed to try and stay in bear vs people who can rape them with physical?
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>>584951116
could you even fit that thing
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>>584951121
LET'S GO GAMBLING
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>>584950812
Here is your rotation, bro

>>584950526
>HoJ got nerfed
Kind of a shame, but it was pretty fucking busted for anything melee.
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>>584950520
More I just don't want to have to be doomed to heal everything, I'm fine filling in or flexing into it when needed but I don't want it to be the main focus.
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I think I have to roll a Shaman now
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Will Cdew get the underdog win, or is it another lock v lock snoozefes
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>>584951224
Imagine being this gay.
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The locks are sand bagging to avoid demo being dumpstered.
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Why is Esfand even hosting, he talks at one word per minute and doesnt know a single class besides Paladin lol
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>>584951309
the actual hunter sim is even higher, not vibe coded
https://arcs-forever-sims.pages.dev/classic/hunter/
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>two unknown warlocks in the final
>duel ends in 5 seconds
>most anticlimactic ending to a 12 hour tournament
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>bis fire mage rotation uses arcane blast and missiles

this is wrong
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>>584951234
Because you are reading from a DB that blizzard can set the values of arbitrarily because you want to believe you know something others do not.
Which is dumb and cringe
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>>584951423
I'd rather have that then the other brown who never stops talking pretending he is some sports commentator
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>>584951421
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to tell that Demonology is wildly overtuned. So, in other words, Blizzard will do nothing.
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I called warlockguy vs neepzen 3 hours ago
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>>584951558
thats so cool anon i'll suck your dick
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>>584951309
this is the kind of thing i should consider when choosing a class. which is the least tedious.
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>>584950470
Swedish Lock just won, kneel nigger
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>>584951461
Spellfire and Frostfire specs, just like my heckin' retail!
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>>584951593
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cjew going to win money
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>>584951593
Isn't that bad for your body in the long term?
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>>584951423
He's a charlatan that wormed his way into the classic community. He's a mainstay now. Can't no anything about him.
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>>584950805
Yeah that's nice and all but within 5 years Vei will take AT LEAST half of Soda's money in the inevitable divorce.
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>>584951736
putting things in your anus is bad for you long term yet idiots do it
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>>584951652
I feel like even if warlocks win they will still nerf shamans even more just for the sake of it.
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do they even need to show the last matches? one of the warlocks is obviously winning
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>>584944983
>It's not about DPS but burst in pvp
You're an absolute retard and should never post on any discussion regarding WoW again. Every single one of these duels proves your statement completely wrong.

A typical fight is a battle of attrition, not a single massive crit highlight reel. This isn't retail where you play for burst windows. You have to wear your opponent down over time, waste their resources, and when they're spent they finally slowlly die. The entire balance is around dps vs healing, and using cc to reset so you can heal. This is why warriors are ass and why tanking is irrelevant in pvp.
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Beta is over boys (and biological ladies).
The game time spent on Beta does not count as played time for refund purposes. I had a lot of hype, hope and fun in beta. Looking forward to release day. Blizzard's problem is that they sold me on the hype enough that I splurged on the highest WoW: Forever pack. It's THANKS to the beta I am refunding.
THANKS to the beta I realize I will never play a blue elf and don't need to spend that money.
THANKS to the beta I realize I'll have a lot of cute in-game pets to choose from, I don't need to FOMO a little Zergling or Panda.
THANKS to the beta, I now understand I'll be playing a work-in-progress game and not a game where all the features I want or have requested will be there day one or ever.
THANKS to beta, I'm looking forward to a decent game that is probably worth the monthly sub, but not much else.

Finally THANKS to Blizzard for allowing me to refund my $105CAD which was a clear overspend for this game even with WC3 and the new expansion added in.
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Paladin doesn't have LoH. Is he allowed to wait?

>>584951736
Yeah he's gonna be in diapers for the rest of his life in his 30's lol
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>>584951736
He's going to need diapers his whole life
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>>584951736
None of these hedonist plan to live after their 40s anyway.
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>>584951736
Do you ever drink anything other then water and only eat healthy foods?
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>>584951854
>they don't know those are balloons
gooners are 60IQ browns
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>>584951224
Woman moment
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why do they keep saying "casted"
it's cast
just cast
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>584951593
Clear cache.
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>>584951736
The human body is more resilient that it looks.
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>>584951317
Have to keep in mind that it's not nilla, or #no changes classic, but it will have active development, so I expect that the specs that are in the gutter will see some changes that make them not total ass in raids, where you both deal no damage and go oom.

I'm still pretty torn myself about what to play.
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>>584951736
most of them needs diapers by 30, they walk around leaking shit.
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>>584951887
Yeah, beta's can't count towards time played as per the law dictates.
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>>584951593
>colorectal cancer rates increasing for unknown reasons
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>>584951854
>girls when they say size doesnt matter
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>upper bracket lock mirror
>lower bracket will probably be a shaman mirror
After seeing enhancement shenanigans, I wish they didnt dumpster elemental identify.
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>>584951593
The absolute state of world of gaycraft players
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>>584951854
There's some trickery going on here, there's no way any woman can take something that deep, the womb is not going to move up behind your lungs
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>nerf shamans
>nerf warlocks
>nerf mages
>nerf rogues
>nerf warriors
>nerf priests
>nerf hunters
>buff druids
>buff paladins
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>>584951593
Imagine permanently fucking up your body just to impress your online lgbt friends
Not a cult btw
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>>584951423
He's fat and ugly and repeatedly tells stories about how he was almost in the NFL like 90% of the fat retards that played high school football in the US. It's honestly disgusting to watch. I miss when being attractive was basically a requirement for being on public broadcasts.
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>>584952264
just delete the game
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>Shammy v Paladin
>Spam purge
>Autowin
it really is that easy
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>>584951854
How does that even fit inside her?
When she's out it looks like it'd reach up to her esophagus.
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ODDWAAAAAAFFLE
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so can i still do this in forever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioKptU4A_M
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oddwaffle now gets eliminated by cdew and doesnt even get the 5k while azzu does for pally kek
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windfury wins
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>shaman is actually the best class
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>>584952341
the shaft is full of air, she does have a gaping vaginal though
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>>584952431
nope
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>>584950545
lmao
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>>584952341
it's like a gauged earring. she is permanently fucking up her pussy like a retard
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>>584952262
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=68802a738549d
she has a bunch of videos, she's the gigastacy of monster cocks
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So the winner is gonna be a shaman? Both Cdew and Waffle consistently deleted their warlock opponents.
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Hoping for Neepzen vs Oddwaffle for EU V EU supremacy despite NA servers
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Are we going to get a longer cinematic trailer for the launch?
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post forever ui's
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I just really dont want cdew to win he will spend that entire 50k on slots
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they shouldve had the boat escape in deadmines and then we can later board it and fight inside it as a higher level pirate dungeon
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nerf shaman and warlock hard
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>>584952308
It's his game now, chud.
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>>584952653
Hes just putting the money back into his community.
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Does anyone have Azzu's talents?
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So the druid pvp build at 60 is just get insect swarm, maybe get feral charge, and just go full resto? Dot, root, keep the opponent combat locked, and just wait for them to run out of mana? People enjoy playing like this?
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so it's shaman vs shaman
then warlock vs warlock
then warlock vs shaman
and finally warlock vs shaman
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>>584952693
> the only viable PvP classes should be hybrids and all PvP fights should take hours
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wait is this resto shaman vs enh shaman?
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>Cdew is going to WF oddwaffle, but oddwaffle is the only one beating these warlocks
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>>584952554
how do I become a werewolf?
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>>584952742
https://raider.io/events/the-forever-open/brackets/finals
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>>584952693
nerf warlocks, fear is retarded. pvp classes should all be melee, ranged and kiting shit is so fucking gay.
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>>584952652
Never
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now cdew loses to a warlock again so it doesnt matter
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nothing personel lvl30s
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>>584952591
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>584952895
Oh, thanks for that!
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Fuck all streamer niggers, go warlocks.
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This is all scripted. Make everyone hate warlocks by having them knock out fan favorites then have the 'champion of the people' Cdew take the win.
It's as bad as pro wrestling. Clear Face/Heel dynamics.
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>all streamer faggots finally eliminated
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What is going on in this thread
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>>584950410
You have a capacity to put up with the crazy bullshit they bring, so you are either BPD/crazy yourself or else you just have no respect and will let a foid walk over for because sex good.
The sex is fun at first but never worth it long term. Have fun locking down a bitch with a million partners and also one who will cheat on you because you didn't text back fast enough.
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>>584953064
cdew, warlockguy, and neepzen all stream
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>>584952932
Nope, sorry but cc and healing don't matter in raid logs so it's okay you get cc spammed, and killed by a class that can regen all its mana constantly and heal itself to full instantly.
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why does ret get 6% two handed weapon damage in their talent tree but arms only gets 3%?
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>>584952761
There's an appeal to your class being a Swiss army knife that lacks the raw burst to end fights off of one interaction. It gives you more opportunities to outplay people. But yes, it is lame.
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Vanilla, TBC and Wrath classic released every year with another balance pass would be better than Forever
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>>584953136
we will have trinket though
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>>584953138
What's the outplay? Druid is immune to slows and snares, and has the greatest mobility in the game. In open world pvp there's no out of bounds so you can't really catch them on any class.
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>>584953148
heh
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>>584953139
TBC classes with classic + content
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Not looking good for EUcels
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>>584953148
peak performance
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Who is this Warlockguy??? Dude's a beast!
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>>584952341
Soft silicone. When the tip hits the cervix the dildo starts to squish down and widens. That's 2.8k worth of dildos in that video btw.
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>>584953139
They already did this with anniversary.
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>Neepzen beats Soda
>this random Warlockguy beats Neepzen

is this actually snuts?
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>>584953136
are you telling me class balance will be different at level 60 compared to level 30? I just dont believe it
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>>584953359
and all the girlies say he's pretty fly
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>>584953396
People are saying he moves like him...
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this chart shifts a lot but the one thing that's consistent between every iteration is elemental being dead last
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>>584953396
nientonsoh former league pro
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>>584953139
I want era servers where prog is decided by player actions and content completion. Like as soon as Ragnaros gets killed 200 times or something then next Tuesday BWL comes out. Once Heroic 25 Lich King is killed 500 times then the entire server hard resets back to Vanilla.
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>>584953396
people are saying it is, he went offline just before the tournament started
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>>584953310
>trinket out of fear
Ooops feared again lol
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>>584953108
They're not showing their faces so it's okay.
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>>584953449
>>584953484
will blizzard let this fly? didnt he drop out of the tournament for gold buying?
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>>584953359
He used to be a pro in LoL.
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>>584953457
yeah and this was after elemental got its "reworked" updated skill tree, its still dog shit. its not getting another rework before launch.
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WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY
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How come all the League pros are dominating WoW tournaments? Does playing League just make you a better gamer, or do WoW players suck?
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Warlock guy is the hot new meme of Forever.
Invest now before it blows up.
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>>584953526
no one knows what was done in the tournament reg, only snutz posting on x, which doesnt actually mean anything
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>>584953449
>>584953396
>>584953484
no
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>>584953594
LoL is literally based on WoW's gameplay + Alterac Valley's PvE
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>>584953132
Jesus takes the wheel
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>>584953594
dont think too hard where warcraft started
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>Mirror matches are decided entirely on whether the dogshit health potion rolls poison or disease
Why wasn't this consumable banned? Actually boring as fuck
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>>584953594
Becoming that good at something means you know how to become good at things
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>>584953492
Your tremor totem?
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>>584953594
Long time WoW players are notoriously bad at everything. It really attracts the worst type of person.
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>>584953594
same reason cs pros shit all over valorant pros.
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>>584953594
WoW PvP is just League of Legends Classic.
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>>584953731
>stoneform
HI, HOW ARE YA
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xaryu is so hot lol fuck
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Damn... It's almost as if wow wasn't meant for 1v1 pvp...
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>>584953457
I don't believe shockadin is good for DPS.
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>>584953773
I am almost charmed by the fact that this game is as old as it is and I still encounter objectively terrible players.
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>>584953748
>claude make me an addon that auto targets tremor and grounding totem with my pet so it's killed instantly when it spawns
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>nearly 10 hours since day 2 began

never let tipsout run another tournament.
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its a prophecy of whats to come after the tournament
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>>584953793
Yeah all these dwarfs are ruining this pvp tournament.
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>>584952097
As stupid as it is my biggest issue with lock has always been squaring being a hero (tm) with the fact that I'm running around with a fel hunter bound to me and sucking out souls.

Hence trying to spread my wings a bit and shaman seems interesting. Rather than playing lock for the 4th time.
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>>584953872
Calm down Aggrend
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WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY

WARLOCK GUY
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>>584953940
claude make me an addon that has already closed the gap and two shot the warlock with my hand of rag
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>>584953793
Soon
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gee I love my RNG healing potions in my competitive pvp with 100k on the line
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>neepzen beats snuts
>snuts will not claim it was him

STREAMERS GETTING RAPED BY WARLOCKGOD NEEPZEN
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Betrayed by your own farmed consumables. Ironic.
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warlockguy lost because in the 2nd match he forgot to create a healthstone and in round 3 he lowrolled the discolored pot rng. painful
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>>584954065
kek, didn't age well
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:^)
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>>584953672
>based on WoW's gameplay
it's based on warcraft 3
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>>584952968
Neepzen won at least
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is warlockguy snutz?
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>>584953872
>>
>na losing on na server
>while stacking shadow res
sad
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>>584953576
>>584953621
I just lost ten grand...
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GET A B-REZ ON ZULAZE
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Ret can afford to get shock because their capstone is shit
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grand final is bo5
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what are going to be the most profitable professions come release?
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YO TAUNT
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>>584954216
not anymore kek
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>>584954223
thats clearly fake AI
he isnt that tall
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>>584954216
Warlockguy is sneed
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kek warlockguy played way better but low rolled 3 times in a row and then banish missed.
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>>584954212
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/worldsoul/us/armory/character/skullcrusher/nien

no he's a lol player who just plays WoW now. He's a rank 1 solo shuffle player
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>>584954269
>grand final is bo5
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>lost the coin flip on the meme potion 3 times in a row

lmfao
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Welcome to World of Luckcraft
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I’ve been experimenting with a 0/20/31 Feral/Resto Druid build, trying to create something that can tank, heal, or DPS depending on what a dungeon group needs. But after digging through Leatherworking recipes, I’m questioning the justification for the hybrid tax.
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He's in the cage tonight.
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>>584954339
>>584954313
What was the coinflip? I didn't watch the last duel.
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>>584954339
need to imprison that penis
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he got outskilled
stop crying
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>>584954392
>>584954183
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>>584954380
>white man was here
how can you tell?
>talks about black penis
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>>584952629
I'm gonna say no. That original WoW cinematic was also played before release and it was the same on the CD as we saw online back then. It def worked to hype me the fuck up back in '04 though. New one hyped me up too, but I wish I didn't play beta and just remained blind going in until launch.
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>no cd resets for warlock guy

kek
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>high level PvP
>look inside
>it's just gambling
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>>584954216
Not anymore lol
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>>584950046
sissy eyes on this guy, she def takes dick
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warlockguy is winning this.
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>>584954392
potion applies a poison or a disease

only the poison can be removed in combat
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>>584954432
indians are not white
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wow pvp seens pretty lame,,,,,
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>>584952716
Is that man cooking? And if so, what is his name?
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>>584954487
even when "balanced" it was always this way, whoever gets insane crit RNG gets ahead
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>>584953793
cant be warlocks
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>>584954432
Hey, it's not my fault that Sodapoppin enjoys the company of african american men, don't shoot the messenger.
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LET'S GO WARLOCKGUY!!!
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>last streamer raped

KWAB
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>gambled on a fart
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Regardless of outcome none of you guys will play lock or shaman because they filter you. You'll keep playing your easy no skill classes like warrior hunter and paladin.
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halloween event it up on beta, can you do horseman in SM?
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NO PROCS NO CLASS
>NO PROCS NO CLASS
NO PROCS NO CLASS
>NO PROCS NO CLASS
NO PROCS NO CLASS
>NO PROCS NO CLASS
NO PROCS NO CLASS
>NO PROCS NO CLASS
NO PROCS NO CLASS
>NO PROCS NO CLASS
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>grand finals is just a redo of semi finals
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>>584954432
Americans are not white
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>>584954739
Never trust a fart, anon.
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when are they adding blood elfs
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>many top duelist fights decided by engineering rng
gnomes are unironically the best race in pvp
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>>584953457
why do people keep using some ai vibe coded slop sim sites that didnt exist before ai instead of real ones
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>>584954765
I main warlock though
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>>584954795
90% of the time these fags are european. /sp/ has proven this to be the case
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Why do they all use the incubus instead of a succubus?
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>Shamans could've won the tourny but Cdew fucked it up and took out the one shaman with a build capable of beating locks

lol
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>>584954792
seems like a bad spec to main. all he can rely on is a rng dice roll? why would you main that?
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>>584954884
It has more hp because blizzard is incompetent
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Xaryu is genuinely doing 99% of the casting legwork, Jesus Christ
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>>584954818
Because if you're gonna shitpost misinformation in the thread like most posters who didn't play the beta, you might as well bring easy-to-repost images to misinform people.
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>>584954884
it has twice the hp
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>>584954891
Good, it means the finals will be warlock vs warlock which means warlock will get the nerfs.
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>>584954884
They are gay
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>>584954765
I play mage because it's objectively the most fun class, there's a reason they gave retail players teleports to every city regardless of their class.
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>>584954857
Theres more traffic on /pol/ and its all american and the occasional canadian flag there
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>>584954380
hes into cuck fetish with his black friend lacari
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>>584954818
I'm new to WoW, what are some real ones I should look at?
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>>584954942
>>584954965
>>584954975
I thought all of them were gay.
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bye bye cjew
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>>584954993
>Theres more traffic on /pol/
because it's more botted.
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LET'S FUCKING GO, WARLOCKGUY
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>>584954884
its funny that they get seduced by an incubus

your character dies while thinking about slobbering demon cock
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>LAST STREAMER BRUTALLY RAPED 2-0 AGAIN BY WARLOCKCHAD
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> degenerate cheater streamer that pushes gambling to children loses
Love to see it.
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>>584955030
Well at least some faggot had to summon it to notice it has more hp
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>>584955068
cant be that bad, i live while thinking about sucking demon cock
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>>584954884
people get tilted by the incubus
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>>584954884
To make their opponents gay.
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>>584954985
Teleports ruin the immersion.
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This tournament deserved this warlock mirror grand finals.
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>>584954974
>warlock
>nerfs
Nigga they're going to nerf Shamans for this yet again. And druids will get buffed.
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>>584955191
Don't care.
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JUST CONFIRMED THROUGH SECRET SOURCES, FEAR GETTING REDUCED TO 4 SECONDS ON MONDAY
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Maybe get out of combat before popping the potion that kills you unless you're out of combat
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>>584955002
>>584954380
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>>584954884
People like Asmongold get really upset and insecure about getting seduced by the Incubus.
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holy kino interview
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>>584955232
A shaman shouldn't have made it this far in the tournament and defeated so many paladins. That means they should be nerfed.
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>>584955230
aggrend is going to ban warlockguy and neepzen after this for eliminating his streamers
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>>584955262
It's called powerbottoming.
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>>584955232
Warlocks aren't druids or ret paladins so they're getting nerfed. Shamans were already getting nerfed again but at least they likely wont be nerfed as hard.
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>literally no ally player made it to the final 32
pathetic
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i see fernando has become accustomed with this thread
have fun guys
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>>584954223
Tailor your suits... and clothes in general. It costs very little in comparison to the cost of the clothes and then you don't look like a fucking goof.
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Tournament still going on
When did this start
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>>584954884
Asmonchuds seething lmao
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Warlocks are going to get nerfed into the ground for eliminating all the streamers. Fear basically destroyed the script.
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Shaman bros, we should have just sandbagged and we would have gotten buffs... Instead we got too cocky . . .
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>>584955467
10 hours and 12 minutes ago
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drakedog would've cleared this whole tournament
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for a fatass gambler cdew is a pretty good shaman holy smokes
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>>584955496
bro you got your buff, your totems are raid wide now
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>viewers dropping as it gets closer to the final
what gives?
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>>584954030
I get that. While I don't participate in rp, I like to think of my character as part of the world and locks are kinda assholes.

The beta really didn't help me to narrow things down and I'm deciding between shaman, warrior, rogue, mage and hunter.
I'm not a big fan of mana (except for healers), so I was considering warrior or rogue, but I the way they changed rage and the fact that slam has a 18 second cooldown kinda sucks. I don't want a raid with 20+ warriors, but surely there is a different way than to prevent them from pressing buttons. I was hoping to make a 2handed slam fury build.
Assassination rogue, looks kinda neat, if only their main ability wasn't so energy intensive and I've already played combat quite a bit.
Last thing besides shaman, I'm thinking about mage, since I really like the idea of frostfire, but I've never leveled a mage higher than 45, since it felt like things slow to a crawl. The utility is still amazing though and the blue elf racial sounds great to keep mana breaks on the shorter side.
Shaman just has cool class fantasy and also brings a lot of utility and flexibility.
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>>584955447
>race thats good against fear over represented in a 1v1 tournament when the widely known best 1v1 spec in the game is on a class with a spammable fear
Fork found in kitchen.
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I can't wait for the release patch notes where shaman are nerfed. It's going to be so fun coming here and watching all you hybrid trannies seethe.
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>>584955540
streamers losing and the audience leaving with them
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The top placing warlock gets 5k but the winner gets 50k. So does the winner of the mirror get both the 5k and the 50k and the second place get nothing?
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>>584955540
streamers get eliminated
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>>584955238
now buff priest because that hurts them more
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>>584955540
Ukraine is bombing the russian viewbot servers as we speak
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all these xaryu close ups.... he's one handsome beaner
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wow I was deciding between rogue and warlock
and looks like rogue it is because aggrend will never let this humiliation of his parasocials in a level 30 memetourney stand
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>>584955568
Esfand looks so sick of this shit
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>>584955517
Drakedog's too based for SL Lock
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>>584955568
>warcraft humans confirmed 5,11'
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>>584955540
all the ecelebs lost
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>>584955540
eu's sleeping because tournament took 4 hours too long
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>>584955540
The inevitability of lock v lock grand final turned people away. Most are just happy to see all the gold buying faggot streamers lose.
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>>584955540
IT'S 4 AM
THEY WERE PLANNING TO BE DONE AT MIDNIGHT LOL
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>>584955663
Someone needs to tell sodapoppin this about black cocks.
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>>584955540
its 4am in europe
im sleepy
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>>584955532
T-Thanks...
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The orc racial changes sealed the deal. Warlock supremacy.
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>>584955540
euros got work in the morning
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>>584955707
>THEY WERE PLANNING TO BE DONE AT MIDNIGHT LOL
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Chat am I fucking retarded for legitimately finding Pikaboo entertaining?
I've only been watching him for a few days, thought I'd hate him but he has good humor.
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Why is Aggrend so obsessed with making shockadin a thing? genuinely curious
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>>584955517
>went dark in MoP
>never heard from again
:(
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It is 4 AM here in sweden please send your energy to my fellow countryman Neepzen :)
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>>584955540
I don't care who wins. Just glad all the cheating streamers got annihilated and completely embarrassed.
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>>584955752
>orc can still remove curses
>will of the forsaken still a thing
>shamans all over the horde with tremor totem
lol have fun on alliance lock
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Tell me that this voice couldn't seduce you. Don't lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjMhFAqwyjg
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>>584955809
You like what you like... You don't need validation from other people. Actually nevermind you watch streamers so yes you do need validation... Infact kill yourself.
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I got the stream muted, what are they stalling for?
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>>584955809
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>>584955809
He'll get obnoxious eventually, but maybe you'll be ok with that
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>>584955049
>>584955846
Heja Sverige!
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>try ganking orc hunter on druid, fail miserably
>delete all my chars and whisper him on a level 1 horde, apologizing and reassuring him I'm rerolling healer and never ganking again
guh...
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>>584955892
cooldowns for warlockguy
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>>584955663
the only thing that can fill my void is penis
and wow is full of boys I can turn into bfs
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>>584955525
>lifetime r1 and blizzcon winner shaman main is good at shaman
whoa
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>>584955865
undead fought a ton of orcs and came to the finals

what are you talking about
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>>584955846
I HATE SWEDES, FUCK YOU
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>>584955831
Because he won't admit the ret capstone seal twisting talent is unfun abysmal dogshit so instead of just replacing it he is forcing ret to go deep holy for holy shock.
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>>584955842
thats what happened with all the real wow players
kung fu panda killed the game
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when is it starting
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>>584955831
Because Ret has a shit 31 point talent, Blizzard ruined Holy as well for a meme.
>>
We should want hybrids to be strong, do not tax them, and do not make them third or fourth best at everything because that makes them effectively the worst at everything.

Without hybrids there is 1 tank, and 1 healer in the game. When hybrids aren’t strong, less people want to play them, so 3 less tanks, and 3 less healers through the leveling brackets.

Yes not everyone who plays a hybrid is going to tank or heal, but they all have the option to switch to it if they can’t find people to run dungeons. they can flex to what the market needs, and no matter how good your bandages are, warriors cannot flex to heal an entire dungeon.

So please blizzard, when forever launches, do not nerf these classes back to the classic age.

When people make their bogus tier lists about the five strongest classes in wow forever, all three hybrids should be on their lists. Preferably not in the top three spots, but on that list. Do not nerf them into the ground because people want some kind of tax on being able to play all three roles. For the health of the game, these classes should be strong, and should be at the very least, solid contenders for the best class in tank, healing, and dps specs.
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>>584955971
why :(
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>>584955304
no way this is insane chat
is this real
chat look at this
*guffaws*
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>>584955995
twisting is fun. you're a bitch
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>>584955953
Be my gf
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>>584955995
Id be getting holy shock regardless of the ret capstone unless it made seals indispensable. Holy Shock and its utility in pvp is massive.
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>>584955892
They need to pick a new designated winner or find a way to cancel the tournament now that the streamers failed despite the rigging.
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the fact that soda, who had the most OP consumes still lost fills me with such happiness.
literal groups of simps going out to farm level 50s just for it to not matter.
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>>584955846
ziqo already lost tho
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>>584955831
>didnt include disc talents
hes still right but lmao
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>>584956103
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>>584955846
heja Sverige! visa vad du går för
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Imagine if blizzard during the beta buffed classes underperforming instead of nerfing everything
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>>584956068
>we want more tanks and healers so hybrid dps needs to be top tier

lol

lmao

fucking redditors
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>>584955961
give one of them a propeller hat and a lolipop
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what will vei do to soda for losing her 100 grand?
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>>584956176
>underperforming
the meta of twinked out level 30s only doing 1v1 with specific rules does NOT have any reflection on the real game.
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>>584955831
Holy is a dps spec now. Paladins are a spell power class now
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>>584956176
that would be fun. you dont want chuds having fun
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>>584956068
>Without hybrids there is 1 tank, and 1 healer in the game.
every tank and every healer is a hybrid
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>>584955846
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>>584956176
They need to throw the nerfs during beta so they can do mostly buffs in the live version
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>>584956018
what is this?
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Disc can spend every single point they have on healing-relevant talents, hpal can't, they end up having like 13 points that are useless
Holy gets like 25% overall healing output increase from their talents at 60 while resto gets about 75%
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>>584955559
Yeah its similar for me:

Mage - maybe but I've played mage before and nothing stands out.
Warrior - doesn't appeal.
Rogue - doesn't appeal.
Hunter - doesn't appeal.
Priest - doesn't appeal.

Which leaves lock, shaman, paladin and druid.

Lock i know I enjoy, paladin is a maybe but I figure there will be a million and one of them and druid has always been kind of meh for me.
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>>584956362
>Disc can spend every single point they have on healing-relevant talents
That are all trash
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>>584956176
We're not allowed to have fun. Sorry, you chuds don't get your booty bay buckshot, it made too many of you people happy.
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>>584955846
isnt he gonna pay half of the price money in taxes and shit?
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>>584955941
That should've been a level 1 pally, given dresses are the only things in your future, you fuckin' beta.
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>>584956345
how jerome looked right before he got dq'd
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>>584955846
No. Fuck you. You guys raped my country.
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>>584956295
It's a stupid term, the only "pure" class is dps. Everyone needs to be able to dps to complete quests and so on. Maybe we should only call something a hybrid if it can tank AND heal, because everyone can dps.
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>>584956490
we dont get taxed on prize winnings in europe
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I wish I was happy with being a class that is stacked, however I like playing in raids where I'm like one of two of.
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>>584956506
why is he licking like that
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European players confirmed better
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> warlockguy doesn't have food and water

kek, this might be the worst way to lose in the history of competition.
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>>584956502
>brownoid mad at paying taxes tries to lash out at his favorite punching bag
>deals no damage because he has no rage
:^)
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Warlock chads
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>>584955559
Go Rogue if you're Alliance or Shaman if you're Horde.
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>>584955842
So much kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsAz2dcxY8g
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>>584956512
No way we havent fought anyone for 200 years
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>>584956512
Finn larping as "colonised" or Polish?
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>>584956596
How did you know?
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>Esfand mocking africans
uh oh....
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>>584956547
Depends on the country, a lot of them will take close to half of your winnings in taxes
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>>584956527
Hybrid means healing. Tanking is just another form of dps.
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>>584952015
English is degenerating, or perhaps "evolving". People say all kinds of incorrect shit.
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>>584956652
DDX was absolutely peak. Easily his best.
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>>584955842
wasnt it because he had to do his military service?
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>>584956362
You can hit the holy capstone while only taking talents relevant to healing. What is the issue here?
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>>584956712
>mention africa is far away
>black people think they're being made fun of
why are they so fragile?
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>>584956662
What did you do 200 years ago? What did you do, huh?
>>584956670
Yes.
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>>584956767
Could have been, he was Korean if I remember and theyve got mandatory service. But he never came back. I thought for sure he'd resurface in 2019.
>>584956793
Holy has serious mana and throughput issues even when talented to improve both.
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>>584956906
nothing personel pekka
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>>584956582
update?
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streamer kino tier list

GOD AMONG MEN
>weedtyler
>swifty

Cool tier
>pika
>pshero

>everyone else
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they're giving warlockguy food and water

IT*S FUCKING RIGGED
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>>584956923
Drakedog was probably well over conscription age by the time of MoP
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>>584956793
Now try to spend the other 20 points on things that would actually be useful
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>>584957008
nah its mandatory in korea and he couldnt postpone it anylonger iirc, im fairly sure he posted about it on the drakedog webpage when it happened
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>>584956512
sorry forgot my picture
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>>584956995
>absolute bugman tier
Xaryu
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>>584956084
twisting is fun, the capstone is not twisting it is dogshit
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>>584957010
a healer having some extra points to spend on utility, survivability, or damage? OH THE HORROR! AGGREND PLEASE SAVE MY CLASS FROM ALL THIS FLEXIBILITY!
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>>584956793
They probably want talents to actually help with their healing instead of have 20 points to do nothing with.
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EVERYONE GIVE WARLOCK GUY YOUR ENERGY
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>>584956713
weird, i know mine doesn't, nor does it tax gambling/lottery winnings
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>>584956964
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are either of these 2 guys streamers or both just randoms?
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>>584952761
If you mean a duel build, sure. But duels are gay.
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>>584956378
Yeah, going to be a fuckton of paladins probably, which was my main back in the day, when it was hot garbage.
I would be considering druid if boomkin didn't have to transform into moonkin form for balance, since I really don't like their visuals.
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>>584957215
>twisting is fun
Nobody wants to play a fuckin rhythm game on a garage door opener.
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>>584957269
they are both streamers but small
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WARLOCKGUY
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THESE GENERALS
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snutz wins again
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>>584957269
they are streaming but neither are very big, I dont think they do it full-time
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>>584957325
go play retail if you want to play CD wack a mole
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>enter tournament with limited consumes
>streamers step in and change the rules just to help their guy
fuck this shit
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Is alchemy going to be good for hunter? I look like this if it matters
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>>584956582
update????
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>>584957269
https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
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>>584957301
use morph to change what the form looks like, you can still enjoy it then
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>>584957221
>>584957229
>>584957010
>paladins when they don't have to spend every talent point on +1% healing nodes
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pika is watching warlock guy, he loses this match
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>>584957301
Horde will be full to the brim with Paladins and Skyborne Shamans.
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>>584957332
warlockguys twitch is nien1 and neepzens twitch is neepzen
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>>584957206
this beaner is so hot it's making me mad...
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>>584954223
I'd let him climb me like a tree, meooooow
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>>584955496
If anyone thinks this tournament is what shamans were worried about is retarded.
We are talking about raid dps/utility.
Not a level 30 1v1 streamer meme tournament.
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WARLOCK GUY

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WARLOCK GUY!
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WARROCKRUU GUUYOOO
GAMBATTEEEEE
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>>584957426
Yeah, but once people realize shaman leveling is dogshit and you're pigeon holed into playing resto at max level, there won't be much shamans at 60.
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>>584957381
engi is too good for hunter, even if just to make your own ammo, second slot free but alchemy usually is just a good alt prof, send the mats to it make it then send back/sell
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FUCK YEAH GO WARLOCK GUY
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>>584957370
>bitch about cd whack a mole
>insist a spec played with a light switch is better
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>>584953887
nooooo but it's an epic streamer tournament, it has to be le balanced and poggers
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>random league player wins tournament
based
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EU can't stop losing to NA sheesh
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>>584957221
What fucking flexibility retard? You won't have time to do anything besides healing because your healing output is less than half of resto druid's with the current talents. You will sit there frantically casting downranked flash of light and going OOM while the druid presses regrowth+swiftmend before going back to watching porn.
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When does this shit end. I want to go to sleep.
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>>584957381
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USA USA USA

FUCK EU FUCK SWEDEN HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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WARLOCK GUY
>https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
WARLOCK GUY
>https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
WARLOCK GUY
>https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
WARLOCK GUY
>https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
WARLOCK GUY
>https://www.twitch.tv/nien1
WARLOCK GUY!
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>WARLOCKGUY
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>snutz won again
lol
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WARLOCKCHAD COMES BACK FROM LOSERS BRACKET. I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE IT
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>>584957574

30 seconds ago
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>>584957514
immensely cute post
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>NA streamer runs out of his RMT'd consumables
>admins give him more so he can cheat the win
It's not fair EU bros
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>no reset from losers
Wtf? Fighting games would never.
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was this cakeboi even part of this event?
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WARLOCK GUY!
NA!
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NA!
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Nientonsoh won :)
NA won :)
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>>584957564
prepare yourself for the tranny raid they wont be happy about this
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>>584957640
>>584957640
>>584957640
>>584957640
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>>584957565
pala has nothing to heal, shields and hots gonna be perma rolling on tanks, your main job is done
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>>584957631
Wait Daigo is playing wow now?
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new bread
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>>584957558
Yes properly timing a light switch is more engaging than wack a mole.
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>>584957359
ALEXSEXUAL RIDES THESE GENERALS
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>>584957325
>>584956084
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>>584956582
YOU LOST LMAOOOOOOO
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remember they wouldn't have provided him with food and water if he wasn't part of the inner circle
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>>584957531
My friend is going engineer and I kind of want to make potions...
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> random league pro that plays casually and stomps absolutely every WoW "PVP" player

kek. CS players should join these tournaments too since it's obvious that absolutely everyone that plays this shit is terrible.
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where is this being streamed? how is it not over by now with only 36?
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>>584957631
Yeah he lost his qualifying match to another paladin.
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>>584957301
Figure I'll start out as a shaman and see how it goes worst case I end up dropping it, for a druid or lock, but in terms of visuals and class fantasy a dwarf enhance sounds cool.
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>>584957471
Yes, everyone knows that autistic guy.
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>>584951872
Because it's 1v1. It becomes more about burst windows when you can have multiple people coordinate to burst the same target at the same time. This is particularly true once warriors get MS.
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>>584957410
I have no clue about druid customization, but I think I've seen a couple cats in changed hd models, which I wasn't planning to use. Do you know what system it is ripping the customization from, so I can take a look?
I'm also a transmog fag and like to make cool looking outfit sets.
>>584957951
Probably going to be the same for me. Glad there will be more dorfs around.
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>>584958165
just imorph and you can set the form to any model in game using the id number from wowhead
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>>584954183
Feces pot.
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>>584954796
It gets more and more true as you get older.
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>>584955540
Some of us have to work tomorrow, NEETfag.
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>>584955846
Swedish dogs, you blood is tainted by years of crossbreeding with laplanders. You are basically Finns.
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>>584956806
Actual africans don't give a shit, they have way bigger stuff to worry about. Basketball americans however...
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>>584957206
I always confuse Xaryu with Savix in my head. I'm sad that I even register these bozos in my head at all.
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>>584957563
He's the more evolved player, from a game that evolved from WC3. These classic jurassic fossils would never be able to match his skills.
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