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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9672 - Kitsunami Edition

==NEWS==
>Discord server for some reason
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555
>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026
https://picoparkgame.com/spp/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg33XSAtdZM
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie
>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in production
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/

==COMICS==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026
Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026

==OTHER==
>Links
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
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>>584971931
Rapeable little fox.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843hHnk99bI
Good Night.

>>584971931
Previous Zone: >>584934894
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IDW is trash
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>>584972089
that's right, "we". since most of us don't know japanese and don't give a shit enough to learn it. you are a minority here
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My husband Dow
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>>584972036
Good edition! And good night!
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Ian Flynn wrote Cream as being more assertive than Amy in Crossworlds while Amy was all gentle and polite and talking like the group mom, which is completely out of character. Sonic Team allowed this to make it to the final product. What on earth are they doing?
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Bestie, go to sleep now.
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Look man you can't just call people bestie all the time because what if they didn't read the dc comic then it sounds like you're trying to do that "smacks lips hi bestie" thing and thats just gay
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>>584972602
Acclaimed amecomi writer Flynn-san understands the sensibilities of our beloved fans in America
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>>584972954
What if he is gay? You're not homophobic are you anon?
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Crackship with no risk of retroactively being declared the canon intent
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>>584973098
yet
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>>584973097
Oh no I didn't think about it like that
>>584973098
Don't even play around.
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Kit makes me wet
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>>584972990
Does Sonic Team not see that western fans hate how Ian writes Amy? That official Crossworlds translation survey is closed now and I’m pretty sure a lot of people complained about the way Amy was written in it
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>>584972245
I'm very happy for the both of you, and I hope you have a happy life together just like me and my wife.
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>>584973348
With his water?

>>584973363
Give them some time, they can't just end it suddenly, they probably have internal stuff and contracts
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>>584973363
>That official Crossworlds translation survey is closed now and I’m pretty sure a lot of people complained about the way Amy was written in it
There were a lot of people who said they did on Twitter, but I can't really say how indicative it was of the actual results. Would be nice if it raised an eyebrow or two, though.
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>>584973494
End what? That survey was open since months ago to anyone with a Sega account
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>>584973679
>End what?
Their current long term game development team structure and collaboration with Ian Flynn
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>>584972602
I gave up on the English scripts a long time ago
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>>584973573
Did those Twitter users also tag Sega’s Twitter accounts when expressing disapproval of the way Amy was written?
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I think the movies will be a determining factor on how Amy is treated going forward, unfortunately
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I spotted Sonic Prime Arena anon posting in a malfoid shipping thread. What are the odds?
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/155933357/#q155943321
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>>584973785
Sonic Team just needs to make the way Amy is written in the English dubs line up with the original Japanese scripts. They need to make Ian Flynn do this. They need to get hands on
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>>584974114
I agree
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>>584973789
I also really hate Amy’s current voice direction. If Sonic Team can’t get Cindy Robinson to do a good voice, then they need to find someone who can
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>>584974308
This but also Roger. I can live with everyone else, even if they're not my favorites.
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>>584974373
>>584974308
I like Roger, especially Frontiers Roger.
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>>584974195
Ian is a freelance writer. He’s hired for a certain amount of time until his contract expires then he needs to keep applying again and again. We don’t know how much time he has left for the current contract. He claims to like SA1 and SA2 Amy but he has never written her that way
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>>584973446
Thanks Amyanon, this world is bad sometimes but Shadow is good and he deserves lots of things. I hope you give Amy the love she deserves too, she needs someone to look out for her and her heart.
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>>584974373
Roger was going to leave after Frontiers into a bunch of brats demanded he return even though most fans don’t like his Sonic voice, including me.
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I knew something was off when I read the comics and I can only hear Philip J Fry coming out of Sonic's mouth
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>>584974734 (me)
*until a bunch
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Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
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>>584974734
We don't know why he threatened to leave or why he returned. My theory is Prime having a different VA.
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>>584975237
He never explained why he left in the first place. Also, I hate how Cindy Robinson’s current voice direction makes Amy sound like a middle aged woman. Amy’s Japanese voice still makes her sound like a young girl
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Hello.
I hope everyone has a great week.
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>>584973917
That’s why it would be a disaster if she’s portrayed as a girlboss in Movie 4. The movie is the only thing that can save her now
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>>584976720
>if
didn't she get introduced beating a squadron of metal sonics that had sonic knocked on his ass
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>>584976765
It was just one scene but it’s wise to be wary
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>>584977063
Tails has literally never defeated anyone in the movieverse btw
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>>584977137
Not even with his plane?
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>>584977319
The plane jobbed after 2 minutes of fighting
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nobody fucking cares about fails get over yourself
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>3 years from now Tails fans will become IDW stans because he has more screentime than BOC
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>>584977598
I'm a Tailsfag and prefer BoC. There is only one Tailsfag here who gets really angry at BoC and prefers western media.
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I really like the edgy horse from the horse movie.
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>>584977319
The Tornado is Sonic's plane, he just lets Tails use it.
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>>584978357
>>584977319
In the movies, it's a modified plane stolen from GUN's fake wedding
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The seething about Archie is getting weird
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>>584979076
Archiefags attack you for liking the game characters.
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>>584979159
Never happened. You're mad about something that happened 20 years ago.
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>>584979076
in here most of it comes from randomfox, krack and one very angry sonamy shipper
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>>584979197
>Never happened
Lol
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>>584972602
Sega cares less about Cream
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>>584979201
autism trio
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I wouldn't have an opinion on Archie if they weren't saying my favorite character needs his entire personality erased, and if they weren't spending every day talking about killing, raping, and doxxing me like I'm the devil itself just for preferring the canon versions. Liking Sonic Team's version of the characters makes them act like you are worse than people who deliberately try to sabotage the threads every day. It isn't making me like their comic more.
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>>584979197
Not about archiefags itself but archie not getting the plug early enough is why we have IDW and flynn writing for the actual games now
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>>584979712
The franchise would be really different if archie got plugged off at issue 50 and 06 was 07
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10000 threads is too much.
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>>584979606
>if they weren't saying my favorite character needs his entire personality erased
That's how Archiefags are about every character
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What is the new cope i am seeing around people blaming SEGA for when IDW does something wrong that they don't like? don't get me wrong SEGA has suicidal decisions at times but IDW is almost entirely the writers or editorials own faults
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Douge
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>>584979807
1 was too much.
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>>584980597
Based and IC
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>>584979201
JPfags ruined sthg
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>>584980786
Saved it from comic fags
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>>584980940
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>>584980786
Japan franchise, Japanese website.
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>>584980597
>>584980757
samefag
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>>584973098
An old fangame had this pairing. It was specifically Mina x Game Shadow.
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>>584981302
Wrongfag.
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>>584981414
Really?
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>>584981552
Yeah. The fangame was called "Tale of Two Sonics" or something. The game cast gets transported to the Archie world and Game Eggman and Archie Eggman team up.
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>>584981880
A lot of really old Mina fanart pairs her with Shadow
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>>584975849
Hello. Thank you.
Same to you.
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>>584982160
Probaby because she was seen as a discount Amy and Shadow is Sonic's double.
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>>584980786
>why do people hate archiefags i don't get it
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>>584982278
>Discount Amy
Mina has more character than Amy though
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>>584982596
You mean being a shotacon
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why do you still care about these dead characters so much
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>>584975453
Funny cuz her jp va is in her 60's
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>>584982640
>sonic's chaser vs sonic's chaser who is a famous pop idol
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HON'
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>>584982640
literally me
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>>584982896
-OFFMODEL
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Junichi Kanemaru, Sonic's Japanese voice since Sonic Adventure (1998).

日本発信の、そういう味のあるキャラクターにしたいと思って演じています。ちょっと生意気だけど、それが嫌みにならないことに気をつけて役柄をつくりあげてきました。
I play him wanting him to be that kind of character with flavor, one that comes from Japan. He's a little cheeky, and I've built the role taking care that it never turns obnoxious.

実は映画台本を頂いた時に、ソニックのセリフが「~してくれたまえ」と書かれていたので、キャラクター的にさすがにそれは言わないなと思い
Actually, when I got the film script, Sonic's line was written as "...してくれたまえ" (a stiff, lordly "kindly do..."), and I thought that, as a character, he really wouldn't say that. I mailed Sega from Hawaii and was asked to take it up with the director at the recording.
In the next post Junichi adds that a line is never changed without the director's say, so it made him nervous, "but it worked out".

格好つけるんじゃなくて、意味が誤解されることなく伝わるのが一番だって常々、よその国を旅して思ってます。英語のセリフも歌も、それと何ら変わらずに使っているだけなの
It isn't about looking cool. Traveling abroad, I always think the best thing is for the meaning to come across without being misunderstood. I use English the same way in the lines and the songs, that's all.

僕がソニックに惚れ込んでシビたのはね、セリフにちょいちょい江戸っ子口調があったからさ! 「ほ~ら、おいでなすったぜ!」 英語はもちろん、こんな素敵なニュアンスは日本人以外真似できないナイスな言い回し!
What made me fall for Sonic and gave me chills was that his lines keep slipping into Edokko talk, the old downtown Tokyo way of speaking! "Here they come, right on cue!" Never mind English, a lovely nuance like this is a nice turn of phrase nobody but a Japanese speaker could copy!
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ai slopper is not real art. art is a channel for the soul and a machine can't have any
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>>584983096
Japanese
FUCKING
character
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>>584983263
archie is not real sonic. sonic is a channel for the soul and ian flynn doesn't have one
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mina is japanese
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Archie? Trve canon
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>>584983320
sonamy is fucking shit. and as ooc as sonally and the rest. telling you just in case
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>>584983415
sonamy mindbroke you
ai sloppa mindbroke you
get replaced dummy
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>>584983475
Ugly
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>>584983454
I don't sit on my fat ass all day complaining about sonamy. but you do sit on your fat ass all day seething about archie and sally. and I happen to know you are one of the ehm.. besties.
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remember when random
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>>584983560
i barely care about sonamy i just know it pisses off the worst people in this general lol
sally lost haha
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>>584983696
sonadow is fucking shit and it's as ooc as sonamy and sonally. saying just in case.
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>>584983882
why would i gaf about sonadow sloppa lmao
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>>584983882
>>
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be a man
>get to pump women full of seed, only have to worry about erectile dysfunction later in life (and keeping your balls safe long enough)
be a woman
>only a limited amount of eggs, bleed regularly over it, plug up and mask, get pregged for mpmentary reprieve, it's its own hell where many things can go wrong, pain pain pain, on top of that you're on average smaller and not as strong
choose your class
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>>584983989
Just in case. it happens Archie's #1 hater is a faggot
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I'm starting to think you guys need to be moved to /co/ this isn't a game franchise anymore, it's been almost 6 years since Frontiers, everything else that follows has been mobile slop and a racing game fornite clone nobody plays, it's not a sonic game it just has sonic characters in it.

If we do not get a real game next year you guys need to get off /vg/ and either go to /co/ or /tv/ because this is not a video game franchise anymore.

Look at what you all waste day and day out shitting about, comics, anime, manga, toons, movies, nothing about video games, sometimes fanfiction and porn and ship wars, again, nothing about video games. Alot of you guys are mentally ill confused about your sexualities,too also perfect for or you just wanna talk about gooning to some ghost girl or rouge.

Yeah, no, this is not a video game franchise anymore nor are any of you video game players and enjoyers.
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>>584984475
ouch. can't refute.
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>>584984475
I don't understand, are you trying to be enemies to lovers with me?
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>>584984475
>Going to /co/mblr
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>>584983773
Bandicoot sex.
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>>584984837
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>>584984475
We just had a big discussion about gameplay.
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Why can't Sonic be like DC where we have 24 cartoons running at the same time
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>>584984475
The game taking long is better than it being shit at least.
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>>584985004
we used to have 3 comic books releasing at the same time. also right now
>Iizuka wants to check every piece of side media himself
and as evan said there are not even enough people to look at idw.
>Iizuka wants everything to be consistent with the canon
having that much stuff will put strain on lore team. imagine they have to do their job...
movies are not canon but still get iizuka's attention
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>>584985125
It will be shit no matter what lol
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>>584985168
We have 3 comics releasing at the same time right now
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>>584983096
Remember that guy a few weeks ago who said "Sonic isn't cheeky"? Everyone on the Japanese side has disagreed with him since 1990.
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>>584985187
oh right. those comic books.... only boc is worth anything. idw is poontoon. godzilla shit and dc crossover shit are just advertising leaflets
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>>584984475
2022 was not 6 years ago nor the last game that released.

>nothing about video games
We talked about SA2 gameplay all day.
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>>584985285
They're all shit
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When do we get to see the tribal princess get butt naked and fucked?
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>The anti-Sonamy spammer is now arguing with himself
What drives this guy? Sonamy is barely even a thing on here.
>>584984907
And it was a pretty good one.
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>>584985168
That's insane yet it explains Blade of Courage's direction in this new arc as well as IDW

Blade of courage felt like it was doing something with a clear goal, this disappeared when the god was defeated as did the ghost princess and sword, Yuta hasn't used nor referenced that blade even once, it's like the entire thing didn't happen and Sonic is just randomly paling around with a human boy for no real reason other than for the sake of appealing to people who think Sonic can't run a comic on his own, he needs some kind of human kid insert to make the youngers want to engage, when Sonic mentioned gathering allies he only meant Knuckles and Amy, not anyone else, because IDW is currently covering the other characters they want to show, Blaze and Silver are currently having a mini arc the only other characters who may get some screen time are team chaotix and sage
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>>584985846
>when Sonic mentioned gathering allies he only meant Knuckles and Amy, not anyone else, because IDW is currently covering the other characters they want to show, Blaze and Silver are currently having a mini arc

Over for silverfags, blazefags and silvazefags
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>>584985846
>Blaze and Silver are currently having a mini arc
The one that people hated?
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Actually, >>584985846 reminds me that Windii's translation of the new BoC chapter came out a few days ago. Since /sthg/'s first storytime on the initial release was extremely scuffed due to the first guy not committing on either using raws or editing the pages (and then outsourced it to another guy using AI), and people lost track of that thread due to faggots going rampant at the time I think it's time for a proper one to make up for it since I promised another anon to do so.

Blade of Courage Chapter 17 Storytime
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>>584986269
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>>584986357
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Which tribal girl, anon?
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>>584986458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALsxz-7ahQ
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>>584986559
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I will never logically understand diehard Westiekeks, especially the ones on this specific site and board. They puzzle me immensely. All my life I've been under the assumption that if you like a subject - or in this case a franchise or character - you'd naturally want to learn more about it and respect its origins. This place put a dent in that idea. There are people here who seem genuinely uncomfortable, even offended, not only by the prospect of learning more themselves but by the idea of other people learning more.
Why? How is it possible to be a Sonic fan while hating Sonic on a conceptual level? What is it they want Sonic to be instead? If the answer is Archie or SatAM, don't they realize that the environment that created them is long gone, and the people involved either died or turned into hacks? If they somehow got their wish and killed SoJ/Sonic Team, do they think rational, sane, 90's-brained heterochads will take over? Because it'll just be people like the Lore Team, and they wouldn't bring back Sally, but if they did bring back Sally she would be very gay.
I don't get it.
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>>584986473
I did say mestli reminds me of tikal and blaze in her role
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>>584986661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlaW1nqiDbU
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>>584986473
>Fagreyway
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>>584985168
And there's still a comic nobody reads that's been recently released:
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>>584986773
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>>584986896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8VGJnDUik
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>watching Sonic and Knuckles violently beat a ten year old girl who is effectively drugged and mind controlled
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>>584987059
Based.
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>>584987009
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>>584985846
Why do you keep pretending that you read BoC? The intent of the current arc is clear and Amo, Metstli and the sword are still relevant and were explained in the latest chapter.
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>>584987128
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>>584985846
Yeah, there >>584987128
You can shut up now.
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>>584987248
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>>584987351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-dTSQBvyEI
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>>584987470
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https://sonic.sega.jp/rushadventure/marin/001/index.html
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>>584983096
This is kind of irrelevant for western fans. I don't even know what "Edo talk" is supposed to be.
It's good to see Junichi is so into Sonic as a character I guess.
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>>584987597
Finally a good post
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>>584987578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAWdRvjuFv8
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>>584987698
kino
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>>584987698
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>>584987698
cringe
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>>584987832
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>>584987948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cmO_H479Mc
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>>584988049
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>>584988151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWpZcGHijnk
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>>584988151
>>584988254
Forgot pic
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wow blade of courage sucks
blade of courage more like blade of SUCKASS
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>>584988369
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>>584988452
idw is poontoon.
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>>584988481
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i love boc!
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>>584988598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMCKd0QQmK4
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>>584988508
>deflecting
Pathetic.
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>>584988738
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>>584988852
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sonamy is fucking shit and idw is poon toon for troon.
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>>584988675
Same
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Tails and blaze fans mentioned again
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Sonic Generations mogs Adventure so badly, it feels like a rape.
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>>584989073
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>>584989124
Why do you think so? I've seen a lot of people, even Unleashed fans, say Generations is way too easy and basic.
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>>584989059
Is your pic supposed to defend Elise? Why? She sticks up like a sore thumb, regardless of what Blazefags and Tailsfags say
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>>584989205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7qnVMI1hHY
Tune in next month!
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>>584989237
Because I won't die because of faulty controls and there's a button to move sideway, unlike in the inferior crappy SA2 where you have to stop, do a 90°, then resume running.
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>>584989315
Oct 21 the localization of vol 1 is done, i wonder if they'll print it in a physical form ever
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>>584973573
Even the Amy haters admitted it was wrong/bad. The people who defended it are just people being contrarian and there weren't many that time.
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>>584974308
Cindy just doesn't fit Amy and never did.
Even Roger I can accept, but Cindy just never fit.
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Reminder that it is your moral duty to write comic characters ooc
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>>584989883
What is that supposed to mean?
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>>584989883
I should make Yuuta act like Megatron
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>>584989340
But moving sideways wouldn't have much of a purpose in Adventure or Adventure 2, I can't think of a segment where that would be necessary. The boost game controls also make it way harder to explore, which makes sense as they are mostly not about that in the first place, but I found Adventure's controls more friendly while boost was specialized for its own design.
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>>584987128
I was wondering why Yuuta didn't have the sword on him ever since Amo died.
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>>584989978
The way you write a comic oc in your fan works should be proportionate to how ooc the game characters are in the comic they are from
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Holy shit, how do you even play with a less is more gadget?
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>>584990030
>I can't think of a segment where that would be necessary
Then you need to play more.
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>>584987651
It basically is like the japanese equivalent of a cockney accent.
Think Shanks from One Piece.
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I don't want to see any ic diamond cutters in your art and fanfic. Make them all ooc.
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>>584990616
I see
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is sonic bald? he has no hair on his head
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>>584984389
>get to pump women full of seed
>Most men don't get to do this and it is a social imperative to mock and humiliated everyone that can't or doesn't want to.
>Your biochemistry forces you to have to relieve yourself on a daily basis, but this is unhealthy so you are encouraged to do so weakly. Doing so instead of banging a woman gets you made fun of.
>Doing so with a eoman requires engaging in a capitalistic socially engineered humiliation ritual to appease her.
>You are at risk of making people everytime you do it and now have to be responsible for her and the offspring.
Its essentially possession that society profits off of at your own expense.
>For whatever reason, she can leave you and take half your stuff.
>people treat you like you are either invisible and dont matter or a threat.
>In exhange, pickle jars are a bit easier to open.

Shadow The Hedgehog and Black Doomer were right.
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>>584990978
Yes, he has cancer
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>>584991063
Both men and women are generally victims of social imperative and relationshits are too much trouble for both. but i don't really see any advantage of being female unless you have agp or are pretty
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>>584991063
>>584991290
I guess females are more naturally complacent and conformist so they are less likely to feel the disappointment you have for the state of reality or life beyond age 10
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>>584985004
Sonic isn't capeshit and isn't that big to afford that.
Also DC doesnt even do that anymore. Its too expensive.
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Narutofags are getting new naruto slop these days.
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>>584985846
That sure is a conspiracy theory you made up
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>>584989292
Elise is a good character with a good story.
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>>584989340
In other words you're bad at video games and blame it on the game for not being easy baby shit like Generations

>>584989237
Unleashed is so much more complex, engaging, rewarding and well designed, I find it insulting when people superficially bundle it together with Generations just because they share some physics code
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>>584992247
>In other words
Ha, strawmanning, the fallacy of the lowborn.
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>>584986671
>pic related
Image really gives me the sense the person who drew it understands Shadow.
Mr. Unsmiley with Ichigo face a cute.
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>>584992334
There is nothing "faulty" about SA2's controls. You're just refusing to get good and then blaming the game for your own personal failures.
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>>584989340
>stop, do a 90°, then resume running.
Skill issue?
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>>584989340
The quickstep is the biggest mistake this series has made.
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>>584992334
You struck a nerve, the fanboy is seething and samefagging like crazy.
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>>584984389
Despite everything I'd choose to be a (real) woman because of the more unique experiences compared to the other sex.
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>>584992016
And a design that doesn't belong in the Sonic franchise at all
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>>584992739
She's just a human though? Humans have been in the series since before the first game. If you meant the in engine graphics, yeah, they have crappy human models, but it's not a problem exclusive to Elise or even just her game, and she's far from the worst looking model in that era. That still ignores her pre rendered model and the Sonic Channel art, of course.
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>>584992892
>moving the goalposts
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Why am i supposed to hate her?
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>>584992247
>Unleashed is so much more complex, engaging, rewarding and well designed
I haven't played it much, so I was mainly going off of what others said, my bad. What do you think of Shadow Generations, if you played it? I've heard it had Generations developers working on it, so I wonder if it has similar issues.
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>>584992982
We were talking about her character and then you moved the goal post to say her design is bad and unfitting. Which isn't even true.

>>584992989
You're not.
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>>584993117
>no u
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>>584993102
Oh, no, I was agreeing with what you said. As an Unleashed fan, I find Generations awful.

>What do you think of Shadow Generations, if you played it?
Haven't yet.
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>>584992989
Who is that? I've read on here that this person got banned from that official Discord and got into some social media drama, but I don't think anyone on here hates nor likes that person.
>>584992892
Elise is mostly known for her 06 appearance, though, so it's natural that people would go off of that when it comes to her design. Sonic Channel's Elise art is relatively recent, after all.
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>>584984389
If i had to choose i'd probably choose to lack secondary sex characteristics and dimorphism like angelic beings.
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>>584993303
>Who is that?
She's just a VTuber who likes Sonic. She made an anti-trans statement and immediately got canceled and banned from official collaborations, and more recently the Discord server as you mentioned. She also got banned from the Sonic Twitter community for right wingers because that place is run by an absolute retard who got offended after she asked him to not make fun of teenage suicide victims. The other admin, who for some reason still trusts that other retard, tried to apologize to her and convince her to come back, but she refused. Which is the right call, in my opinion

>Elise is mostly known for her 06 appearance, though, so it's natural that people would go off of that when it comes to her design.
Appearance and design aren't the same, and she has two different appearances in the game. The default appearance looks crappy and it's fair to dislike it for that, but she also looks just fine in the higher quality intro cutscene, and a few others. Anyway, the conversation was about her as a character, not the game's graphics.
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*headpats your OC*
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>>584993235
Shadow Generations is the best 3D Sonic game I played. It completely shits on the mediocre SA2 and the awful '06.
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idw? you call that a sonic comic? that's slop. it's poon toon for troon
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>>584993882
Hearing that from you makes me set my expectations extremely low. If it's to your taste then I guess it will be a long time before I give that game a chance.
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>>584993882
You pissed off a poser, they pretend to be the person you answered to
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>>584994038
You're silly, I am >>584993102 and I've stated in my post that I don't hold Generations in that high of a regard. You seem to also switch games you use to dismiss earlier 3D games constantly, and never speak in detail about any of them.
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>>584991290
>agp
Funny words from the AAP foid.
>victims of social imperative and relationshits are too much trouble for both.
Not equally. The only way women end up screwed by it is because they happen to buy into the rat race unironically, which is something neolib capitalism has pushed relatively recently.
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>>584994038
Yup, it's malding and lying even more.
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>>584994328
He's been doing this since yesterday. Making shit up about SA2, getting calmly corrected by anyone who has ever played it, and then replying to himself "TROLOLOL YOU MADE HIM BIG MAD THIS TIME LOOK AT HOW MUCH HE SAMEFAGS". I don't know what he thinks he's achieving.
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spank maria
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>>584994986
>everyone i don't like is the samefag
You aren't really smart, huh?
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>>584995108
It's not everyone I don't like, it's just you.
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>>584994396
They are more likely to buy it because they are more complacent and conformist. if you are non conformist you can ignore it completely and just f.p at home.
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>>584995207
See >>584995108
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I am playing SA2, and why does the GUN solder on the helicopter sound like Hank Hill?
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>>584995458
There's no "solder" in this picture.
You drones are just sad to watch.
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>>584994986
The shitposters on this general seem to be like that, I assume they're just trying to clog up discussion. There was that anon who at least played SA2 even if being inexperienced with it, so while I disagreed with his opinions, it at least meant discussing the game, while this is just nonsense.
>>584995001
Are you the one who wanted to figure out the timeline behind the ARK incident/SA2 story?
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>>584995587
No, I actually did it.
Sadly it uncovered more plotholes.
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>>584995528
Oh right, it wasn't an unseen solder radioing the control tower and panicking about everyone else, it was actually a self-piloting helicopter drone, of course.
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>>584995458
I don't hear it, but his voice does sound sillier than GUN people in Shadow.
>>584995681
I am glad I could answer some of the things you said then, at least, even if you found more things now. Here's something nice, I've mentioned that the experiments were seemingly released by Eggman due to them not being around in Lost Colony, but there's other enemy-related details in SA2. Eggman stages primarily use Eggman enemies, except for Sand Ocean where it was Eggman getting back into his base and clearing out the GUN mechs nearby.
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>>584996184
Yeah, Sand Ocean has GUN launching an attack on Eggman's base.
Through it's likely that it's "just" an automated patrol, because GUN would have to be very stupid to take Eggman so lightly.
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>>584995857
Anon.
>solder
ESL?
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>>584992616
But it looks cool.
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>>584952094
Late response, but I feel like the versions had it backwards.
>DC: 2P characters are unlockable skins
>GC: 2P characters are unique starters
I feel like the skins should've been starters and if you're going to make them unique enough to BTFO the OG lineup you should've made THEM unlockable, but I'm not a game-design person so whatev.
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>>584997049
Not in Forces and Frontiers.
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Tails and cream being able to spindash while amy can't is actually good.
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>>584997087
That sounds needlessly convoluted and also weord that youre replacing characters with new ones that play radically different.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a95_UasGOE
I'm so tired of 3D Sonic gameplay being lane switching hallways.
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>>584997408
you don't like poon toon for troon? you want cape shit? but that's off brand
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>>584992892
It's impossible you looked at Elise and thought she is just a human.
She is a magical girl, she is Merlina without the story book. What are you doing dressed like that woman? This is supposed to be a realistic setting and she is half ready to go to the carnival.
She doesn't belong, not just for the kiss. Her designs is shit.
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>>584997334
Tails shouldn't spindash either. He should rev by spinning his Tails.
Cream should have the Giant Step instead of Amy.
Amy should have Peel Out.
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>>584997496
Actually, I looked at Merlina and thought she is a human. But no, Elise doesn't even have the fantasy race element. Wearing princess clothes doesn't make you a different species.
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>>584997334
I mean, sure. Tails and Cream are meant to be easier to play as, so they have the spindash, while Amy is meant to be harder to play as, so she has something different. Tails' flight also differs depending on game, it was weakened in games like Advance 3 and Heroes to discourage abuse and instead push towards the games' mechanics. Cream's flight is weaker but can be cancelled into rolling state in Advance 2, which is fun.
>>584997521
Why the Super Peel-Out? It's a move made for CD's stage design and mechanics, where the spindash was weaker.
>>584997496
Elise doesn't look like a transformation form, she looks like a fantasy princess and is relatively down to Earth in that compared to some designs.
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>>584997483
I like the sidestep in concept because it helps with selling the fantasy of playing as Sonic. Its what I call a "cutscene Sonic" mechanic. It also helps make speed sections more active (not a strictly good thing imo but thats a different convo)

The problem is how it doesnt have much room for interation and monopolizes a lot of design space.
They also make rail switching sections feel redundant.
It also requires 2 whole buttons to include them and disinsentivises actually learning to control Sonic in a 3D space. Why do I even have an analog stick lol
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>>584997496
She's a princess with a fire demon inside her.
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>>584998016
Yeah, I agree. It's cool and creative in Unleashed, but like the rails it's just become simplified and lazy. They should get rid of it entirely at this point, at least for a while.

>disinsentivises actually learning to control Sonic in a 3D space. Why do I even have an analog stick lol
Do the boost games when Sonic is seen from behind even qualify as 3D? You don't have 3D controls, you still move on two planes like in the sidescroller view
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Is the character Shadow the Hedgehog older brother core?
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>>584998080
>Krack is a fujo
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>>584998080
link now
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>>584998232
You didn't know?
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Nice op
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>>584997902
>a move made for CD's stage design and mechanics
Nice just-so story.
Peel-out gives Amy the utility of the Spindash without compromising her design gimmick of not spinning. Also Amy came from CD so its a neat callback.
The PeelOut was redundant but giving it to Amy is a match made in heaven.
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<33333
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>>584998497
Lol these lyrics are ass
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>>584998482
TAILS NO
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>>584998725
?
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Tails is so fluffy and pliable
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>>584998751
He's wearing the bombers' hat!
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>>584998725
TAILS YES
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>>584998884
>pliable
????????
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>>584998961
Ooooh!
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>>584997521
Tails just imitates sonic which is fine, also was an easy mode in 3k(though arguably harder due to the marble garden boss)
Cream is just baby easy modo, counterintuitive to make her harder.
Yes peelout is fine for Amy.
>>584997496
She is a princess, she isn't going to wear t shirt and jeans.
magical girl outfits are based anyway.
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>>584998610
I am not sure what that would achieve. She would still have to spin in Advance 2 due to that game being made with that in mind (especially since the rolling hitboxes are smaller than running/idle) and it would go against her playstyle in Adventure 1, Advance 1 or 3. It might have been cool in Origins and Superstars.
>The PeelOut was redundant but giving it to Amy is a match made in heaven.
The Super Peel-Out and CD's odd spindash both exist to serve that game's design, which wasn't made with an easy to use on-demand spindash and instead encourages either using the safe, but slower CD spindash, or the less safe and hard to control Super Peel-Out. I am not sure how giving the ability to Amy would mean much when abilities are altered on a per-game basis.
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>>584998312
This is just the Holiday family
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>>584998210
Yes. 3D was always more about the technology and perspective. For better or worse.
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>>584999037
He's very soft
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>>584998232
This is known. She has a negative relationship with it.
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>>584997483
This channel's game mechanics evolution videos are interesting. I'm watching the Homing Attack video now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltVzRILb1hE
It's sad how Sonic Team has dumbed down every mechanic introduced from Adventure to Unleashed.
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>>584998312
Why does everyone need to be bi or gay in this comic? Just be normal.
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>>584998332
https://litter.catbox.moe/5vx4v6.png
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>>584999174
In the Adventure games and Heroes the gameplay is actually three dimensional though. It's games like Colors and Generations that lock you into switching lanes or rails.
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The world's most windy cool comic
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>>584999418
Ew
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>>584949325
I think this pretty much prove the Heroes won every rival battle, right? The Dark characters would've had no problem actually MURDERING them.
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The homing attack should have never existed
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Why aren't there Sonic toys that take advantage of the gadgets that Sonic characters used to collect in the Adventure games and 06?
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>>584997902
>relatively down to Earth
The devs of Sonic 06 looked at too much Final fantasy and it shows
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Krack will ship anything before even touching Shadouge
https://litter.catbox.moe/tink9h.jpg
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>>584999362
Because LGBTBBQAIMAP need to self insert.
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Is Drogune popular yet?
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^-^
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>>584999110
>Tails just imitates sonic which is fine
Tails should push more what makes him unique and special. Have him do the Rhythm Badge Spin with his Tails. Have him spin like a top even while hitting with his Tails.
He can still press down to roll. His tails fluttering while he spins is cute.
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>>585000071
Drogune is not xtreme or maximum. I don't care.
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>>584999706
It might have been a consequence of some things in 06 being pulled from a scrapped non-Sonic game, but I think Elise was meant to look the way she did regardless. It's hard to say for sure given how messy that game's development was, and also when considering that Secret Rings, which started as 06 Wii, had more stylized humanoids.
>>584999685
For whatever reason, they don't make things like that unless the game is new. There were Adventure 1 figures I think, for example, but they never did figures of that designs again. It took them years to make a Death Egg Robot, too.
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>>584999121
>She would still have to spin in Advance 2 due to that game being made with that in mind
How? When?
> it would go against her playstyle in Adventure 1
It would be perfectly in line with her playstyle in Advance 1 and 3.

>The Super Peel-Out and CD's odd spindash both exist to serve that game's design, which wasn't made with an easy to use on-demand spindash and instead encourages either using the safe,
No it wasn't.... everyone just pressed Down after the Peel Out, making it just the Sonic 2 Spindash.
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>>585000253
I can vouch for this. But he should still be able to spindash too, I mean he invented it according to at least the NA Sonic 2 manual
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>>584999439
Yes and I agree I prefer those. But to say the Boost games arent "true 3D" is just kind of nonsense. It's just different.
It'd be like saying Metroid Prime isn't 3D because its first person instead of 3rd person.
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>>585000253
There was a similar special move in Advance 2, press attack while running in speed move and he'll do a tail spin attack mid-run. I assume it's not more common because even in SA1, the spin attack didn't work well due to his playstyle encouraging flight above all else. I like how in Heroes, he shoots other characters mid-flight as an attack, it can be cool to use.
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>>585000509
>he invented it according to at least the NA Sonic 2 manual
That's questionable. It was most likely referring to twirling his tails like a rotor to keep up after Sonic, which we also see in the SO animation (sonething he doesn't even do in TA).
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>>584999663
Last thread some SA2 hater showed up and explained why he hates the game. It mostly boiled down to the game being too complex for him and preferring the simplified physics of Generations. It was hilarious and we talked about it all thread. >>584946294
The difference between someone trying to hate the game while playing it mindlessly, and someone trying to hate the game while not playing it at all. >>584947963
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>>585000509
Its interesting because in Sonic 2 the Tails AI shows the player how to spin dash so I wonder if the Japanese devs liked this story idea

https://youtube.com/shorts/oVrjhTKqtUo?is=NpfSS6DHmEZecnKi

Even if it isn't in the JP manual its reflected in the game
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>>585000814
That's not what he said at all. Have you already forgotten what exactly was said?
Or is your feeble mind unable to process fair and honest criticism of your favourite game?
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>>585000580
I said it isn't true 3D because you move on a two planes and not three.
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SA2 is good
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>>585000509
>>585000824
>Tails collects the "Sonic" item in Tails Adventures to learn to Spin Dash in that game
>teaches the Spin Dash to the real Sonic later
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>>585000959
You're wasting your attention on that maggot, it's unable to process any criticism of SA2, everything negative about that joke of a game has to be trolling and if you don't worship this failure, you're "a hater".
It's literally too stupid to understand arguments.
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>>584999849
What about the Shadouge porn in my gallery
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>>585000959
He said this, I will copy and paste it exactly as it was for you to read:
>you don't target rails automatically in SA2
He was complaining that the Homing Attack in SA2 requires thought and doesn't automatically lock on to everything like in Generations.

>>585001073
Nope, there is genuine criticism to be made against SA2. I have done so myself in the past. You being bad at the game and needing meta era casualization isn't real criticism.
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>>585000814
The homing attack is bad fundamentally and takes away platforming by automatically sending the player to the enemy or spring or whatever. Any argument you can make for the homing attack adding anything worthwhile can be applied to manually jumping at the enemy and it's better because you're the one doing it (getting near the enemy, having spacial awareness to aim and hit the enemy, pressing the jump button at the spot to jump off etc)
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>>585001073
Irrefutable. He immediately went with childish name-calling, which proves he's wrong.
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remember to draw today!
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>>585000471
>How? When?
Tunnels, small gaps. The spindash itself is also not as effective for speed in that game, so the Super Peel-Out would compromise that, as you're meant to use speed mode and trick moves to achieve a fast pace in that game, while rolling is used for segments that force you to deal with slopes or to deal with certain enemies safely.
>It would be perfectly in line with her playstyle in Advance 1 and 3.
It would certainly not be in line with Advance 1 Amy, who has no abilities to achieve high speed outside of her hammer affecting springs, and has to rely on the environment to achieve high speed instead, making losing it an even bigger risk. The Super Peel-Out would break this dynamic. Advance 3 I am not sure, as that game has an oddly high base movement speed and different combos would have to be considered.
>No it wasn't.... everyone just pressed Down after the Peel Out, making it just the Sonic 2 Spindash.
Not quite. The Super Peel-Out could break past a speed cap in the original CD and that was its main purpose, but it also still had a charge animation. The Sonic 2 Spindash can be used instantly as long as you're not moving, but it has to be charged for higher speeds, and you're bound to lose said speed in many situations due to being forced into rolling after using it.
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>>585001175
Cool n hardcore Tails art
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>>585001082
drawn after the fact
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>>585000707
The manual explicitly says he came with the "super dash attack" (spin dash)

>>585001047
Yeah idk lol

>>585001305
Yep
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>>585001148
>He was complaining that the Homing Attack in SA2 requires thought
Literally wrong. Why do you lie so desperately?
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>>585001175
This only makes sense if you ignore the situations in which the Homing Attack isn't viable, can't be used, can't be chained depending on what the target is, requires manual adjustments, requires extra inputs and aiming, and all the occasions in which it acts as an air dash that doesn't home in to anything. Which, to be fair, makes sense if your only frame of reference is games like Generations or Forces which did in fact remove most of its complexity and reduced it to what you accuse the earlier games of being.
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>>585001343
But Sonic can do a form of spindash in Sonic CD which also takes place before Sonic 2
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>>585001398
>>/vt/
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>>585001409
You're wasting your time trying to reason it. It's a newfag trying to pass as an oldfag by playing up the "good old times" that it never actually knew.
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>>585001409
I don't care if the homing attack is less shit in one game over the other. It's still shit. It shouldn't exist by principle
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>>585001175
What do you think of the insta-shield being able to compromise most of Sonic 3's bosses, then? Or about homing attack's function as an air dash? I am not sure if you're even a genuine classic-only fan or just a shitposter, since you ignored anything about most of the other 2D games a few threads ago and kept pushing the
>homing attack is stupid, I like chains
After your Sonic 2-related arguments were discussed.
It's also worth saying that classic-only fans I've seen have started debating whether the spindash is necessary or not as of recent, which you don't seem to talk about.
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>>585001470
I think that's similar to the Spin Dash that appears in Tails Adbentures actually!
So Tails didn't INVENT-invent it, but he most probably was the one to PERFECT it, interesting.
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>>585001470
An explanation could be that the more effective spindash in Sonic 2 was Tails' improvement over the different spin dash in Sonic CD created by Sonic
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>>585001581
>I don't care
We noticed, yeah, you don't care about the cold facts, only your opinion matters to yourself.
Why even come here if you don't want to listen to reason? Only to seethe?
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>>585001771
lechuga...
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>>585001562
I don't have such a pessimistic view of people. I think he's just trying to play it cool over some things he doesn't understand, or just simply propping up his preferred games. I'm just correcting him because the things he's saying are objectively wrong.

>>585001581
They made some very fun and engaging games with it. It's sad you want to be stubborn instead of just accepting you were wrong and moving on with it. I assure you, SA2 being a fun and well designed game doesn't threaten the classics in any way whatsoever. Those games are great too. It's also fine if you prefer 2D over 3D, but this arrogance over games you clearly don't understand is irrational.
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>>585001709
I never said that and you're confusing things

>>585001829
The cold facts that the homing attack takes away the platforming from the classic games fundamentally? Those cold facts?
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>>585001984
>the homing attack takes away the platforming from the classic games fundamentally
It literally doesn't. That's not how the Homing Attack works.
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>>585001718
I don't think the Sonic Team staff planned any setting explanation for who invented the Spindash beyond potentially >>585001343 and I don't think they considered Tails Adventures, but it's fun to speculate if you'd like. I am not sure though, Tails Adventures also has the Knuckles punch as an ability for example, and a Fang ability I forgot the purpose of.
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>>585001984
Only to seethe it is.
You do you, of course, if you feel like wasting your sunday shitting up the thread with your opinion, go ahead.
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>>585001984
I think "I like chain" must have been a typo, because otherwise his post is accurate to what you were saying two threads ago.
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>>585001718
>>585001750
But how could Tails invent/improve it when Knuckles could also do it, lol
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Whatever opinions the SA2 anon guy people keep talking about, I agree with your opinions
Rock on like a hardcore and awesome and extreme guy
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>>585001953
These games can be fun just in a more limited way compared to the classics

>>585002086
It does. Getting near the enemy and positioning yourself adequately to attack is how it works in anything ever. The action of attacking itself is automated and kills your flow
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>>585002232
>These games can be fun just in a more limited way compared to the classics
SA2 has more complexity than the classics.

>Getting near the enemy and positioning yourself adequately to attack is how it works in anything ever.
Not in Forces, lol. Notice you're slowly starting to make concessions to the Adventure games, when previously you'd describe them like the meta era games.
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>>585002208
I didn't say anything like that

>>585002132
Seething about what? Yeah I'm upset they did so many mistakes with the 3D games. Am I not allowed to speak about it?

>>585002230
I mean I think we should analyze it within the context of Sonic 2 (and maybe CD which was co-developed with it, though I understand if you see it as a stretch). After that you can find plot holes in a lot of places
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The Homing Attack was a good mechanic that expanded the platforming. Not everything can be targeted or chained, and chains themselves can e failed if you're not good at the game.
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>>585002232
>The action of attacking itself is automated and kills your flow
That's why you can sometimes instead skip enemy chains while knowing where to use it effectively. You also get a point bonus depending on how many enemies you defeat before landing in SA2, and various SA2 enemies discourage homing attack (spike tanks, shielded tanks, variations of Artificial Chaos, the ghosts)
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>>585002390
>Not in Forces, lol.
I don't care if the homing attack got better or worse dude. It's just bad. At it's best it was bad. The classic games didn't have it altogether. The classics thus allow for greater player agency in movement and overall gameplay. Among other things
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>>584999663
Tailsfags are just miffed because Tails didnt have it in Frontiers.
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>>585002552
Everything should be chained, so that you can smoothly transition from running sequences to homing attacks over a pit of lava, spikes and IRS inspectors in peace.
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>>585001343
>The manual explicitly says he came with the "super dash attack" (spin dash)
It says he could do it, but it's vague on whether he came up with it or if it was one of the moves he mimicked from Sonic, is what I meant.
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>>584999685
20 years too late
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>>585002642
This isn't expanding anything holy shit. Listen to yourselves. "Oh in some instances you can't use the homing attack and in others you can". Yeah. Which also applied to... Jumping. At different enemy types.
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>>585002662
Your argument for why it was always bad is literally not based on reality. It's a lie you made up in your head. You also ignore all the other moves, stages and enemies designed around it, whether it should be used or not, and how all of this works together in the grand scheme of things. You don't know what you are talking about.
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>>585001343
Idk why the american manual matters, unless you think CD had sally in it
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>>585002850
>Listen to yourselves. "Oh in some instances you can't use the homing attack and in others you can".
Literally nobody said that. Can you just not be disingenuous for ONE post?
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>>585000509
>he invented it according to at least the NA Sonic 2 manual
Never made sense.
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>>585002662
You keep ignoring large parts of posts you're responding to and even for the classics, your examples were poor and you ignore anything relating to Sonic 3. I can see a bit of your viewpoint to an extent, the homing attack did take away from engaging with 3D elements in SA1, but that was more of an issue with SA1 than with the homing attack.
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>>585002760
I mean it calls it an astonishing feat but yeah now that you brought it up maybe he didn't "invent it". Still I believe that was the intention given the in-game thing. They were clearly trying to associate the ability with Tails
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>>585002934
sonic frontiers was a mistake, 2 will be a bigger mistake
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>>585002953
It's because the game has Tails' AI teach the player the spindash. I discount the American manuals but it is sort of brought up in game

>>585002939
The homing attack is bad fundamentally
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>>585000994
This is an autistic definitionsfag way of trying to argue.
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>>585002850
>Which also applied to... Jumping. At different enemy types.
That's correct. This is because the Homing Attack as of SA2 had not removed anything. Now, what we were saying is that it added things on top of that. Mindlessly pressing the jump/Homing Attack button is not the answer, the Homing Attack isn't even the only attack Sonic has. This is far more complex than anything in SA2. And as a reminder, complex doesn't mean better. Sonic 2 is much simpler and more accessible, and that's okay. It's still a good game many love. I'd say it's even easier to love thanks to its accessibility. SA2 is more appealing to those looking for more complex 3D platforming.
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>>585002953
Reminder the OG EU EN text had Amy and that was the manual version that was supposed to be in Mega Collection had they emulated the Mega-CD right and didn't resort to an imperfect PC port in Gems Collection.
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>>585003235
>The homing attack is bad fundamentally
The arguments you made in support of this claim were all proven to be wrong.
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>>585001175
>The homing attack is bad fundamentally and takes away platforming by automatically sending the player to the enemy or spring or whatever.
The former is adding platforming. Thr latter was not platfotming yo begin eith and arguably is more platfotming with its addition.

>Any argument you can make for the homing attack adding anything worthwhile can be applied to manually jumping at the enemy
No, because that's very limited appication-wise in 3D and wasn't even a prominent aspect of the classics.
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>>585003325
Brother this isn't adding anything. It's taking away because THE ACTION ITSELF IS AUTOMATED. When you jump you as the player is manually attacking the enemy. That alone is fundamentally, axiomatically (lol) more complex than the game flinging Sonic at the enemy
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>>585001709
>the spindash is necessary or not as of recent,
That's actually pretty old if niche discussion.
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I'm tired of this you guys just see things way in a delusio- I mean, very different way
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>>585003547
>THE ACTION ITSELF IS AUTOMATED
No? You do it by pressing (and potentially holding) the button at the right time, with the right threedimensional positioning and direction facing, while controlling the character with the stick, while being aware of its contextual availability and its effect on each type of target, while also ignoring all the sections where there is nothing that can be targeted and it just functions as an air dash with no homing. You're thinking of Colors and Generations, where almost anything can be targeted from far away without positioning at the press of the button alone, while the enemies don't even try to attack or defend themselves.
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>>585001278
>Tunnels, small gaps.
Those were in advance 1. Amy has a unique animation and state for those since in those cases it cant be helped. So its not relevant.
>so the Super Peel-Out would compromise that, as you're meant to use speed mode and trick moves to achieve a fast pace in that game,
This is just yap man.
The Peel Out requires you come to a stop like the spindash.
It's inclusion would literally just be the spindash but without the ball state.
>who has no abilities to achieve high speed outside of her hammer affecting springs,
I dont know why you're both lying and being insistent that this was a core aspect of her gameplay.
She was slower but still had things like Giant Step and interacted with slopes and Rails, something Knuckles and Tails couldn't, which are all about building speed
It just feels like mythmaking on your end.
Adv 3 exists to show this wasn't a real concern.
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>>585003793
They grew up with it so they’ll never let it go, or even hear dissenting opinions in good faith
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>>585003793
We see it this way because we actually played the game and know what we're talking about.

>>585004038
There is legitimate criticism to be made of those games, and you're free to dislike them. Lying is not it, though.
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>>585003991
>You do it by pressing (and potentially holding) the button at the right time, with the right threedimensional positioning and direction facing, while controlling the character with the stick, while being aware of its contextual availability and its effect on each type of target, while also ignoring all the sections where there is nothing that can be targeted
Jumping
>You're thinking of Colors and Generations
I'm gonna cry

>>585004038
Yeah I just don't know anymore
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>>585003991
>while also ignoring
*without ignoring

>>585004256
Yes, jumping is also an attack mechanic. The Homing Attack when implemented properly doesn't take anything away.
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>>585004256
Where's your Final Rush first try A rank video? You said the platforming in the early 3D games is so baby easy and everything, you've had enough time to record it and show us how easy and deprived of platforming it is.
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>>585002953
The Western manuals didn't REALLY screw up too hard except the case of Sonic 2 MD (implying it's still South Island and obfuscating Tails' origin) Tails Adventure and Knuckles' Chaotix.
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>>585004038
He grew up with the classics and feels threatened by people praising the games he's decided to see as the enemy of those games. It's sad and extremely biased.
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>>585004334
No because the action itself is automated
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>>584998080
i know the exact post you're referencing, the one about sonic and shadows dick sizes, right?

also, speaking of shadows dick size
https://files.catbox.moe/pi2kwi.png
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>>585004647
It's "automated" in the same way jumping is "automated". You press buttons and things happen. This is stupid. The Homing Attack is its own mechanic with its own merits, and is also far from the only mechanic in the game.
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>>585004803
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>>585004816
No because when you jump you're controlling the character mid air not being sent by the game
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Bros I just Tails all over the place at work. The police are now trying to find me.
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>>585004024
The small gaps I was referring to aren't ones that force rolling, but oh well.
>It's inclusion would literally just be the spindash but without the ball state.
The ball state is what balances the spindash in Advance 2, because the speed boost you can get from it is way more limited than what speed mode gives you, and said mode leaves you vulnerable. Tricks are used to maintain it, while rolling during it means a loss of speed but can be necessary for some sections. An on-demand high speed run doesn't fit Advance 2, because running is more efficient in that game than the spin.
>She was slower but still had things like Giant Step and interacted with slopes and Rails, something Knuckles and Tails couldn't
...all characters interact with slopes? You're right about rails, but these are rare in Advance 1 and function differently from Advance 2 ones, and Advance 3 ones also function differently from Advance 2's. The Giant Step was way weaker as a speed move, so while it has uses, it still doesn't serve as an ability to give an effective burst of high speed, which was my point. Achieving high speeds as Amy is harder in Advance 1 compared to other characters.
>Adv 3 exists to show this wasn't a real concern.
Advance 3 plays differently from the previous games, but I don't know if its design would have lended well to a Super Peel-Out or not as I don't know it as well. It did also nerf Sonic's tricks and you can't use his air dash if playing Sonic and Tails in it, for example, but maybe some of the other abilities do also give a burst of high speed and Super Peel-Out would have fit well.
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Tailsbro... I'm sorry...
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>>585004903
also for context, he had been dreaming about having a werehog form
https://files.catbox.moe/o9wjvo.mp4
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>>585001047
Bootstrap paradox?
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>>585004982
You decide where you're "being sent". It's the direction you chose with the stick and the angle you chose to press the button at. Thinking the game is choosing these things for you is a common beginner mistake and you will not be able to have a pleasant game experience or complete the harder challenges if you don't try to learn how to play well, in contrast to the more accessible classic games. This is what causes a lot of frustration with SA2. It's understandable, more complex platforming is not everyone.
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The police have found me. This might be my last post. I will use this to say I love Tails so much, he's my favorite character and I wish I co
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>>585005336
>You decide where you're "being sent
Being sent is the problem and choosing where to go in the game is just regular gameplay
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>>585005440
>this was actually tailsanon's last post
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>>585004982
By that logic, you can bring up how Sonic 1 automated attacking by making Sonic roll mid-air. That alone leads to a lot of its enemies being ineffective if not seeking to play the game well, as slowing down before an enemy is usually enough to make it useless, and enemies like Orbinauts can be ignored or waited out.
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>>585005528
Being sent a couple steps forward in the direction you chose. Why is that a problem?
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>>585005440
Godspeed Tailsbro, we will never forget you
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>>585005732
>making Sonic roll mid-air
Oh, right, don't the Mega Drive games completely take away player control until you're back on the ground if you jump while rolling?
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>>585005754
Because you're not doing the action of attacking the enemy. You can't really miss the homing attack once you go for the enemy

>>585005732
Not true becoming a ball doesn't trivialize enemies
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>>585005440
I knew it was (You) Omochao...
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>>585005930
>You can't really miss the homing attack once you go for the enemy
But you see... this is false. You can miss it, you can do it at the wrong time or the wrong place, you can be in a game state where Homing Attacking isn't possible (like if you've already used a Homing Attack on a spring, or if you were launched in the air by a stage gimmick), you can mistime, have a bad angle, and you can get hit by enemies if you tried attacking them without anticipating their own attacks, which will interrupt the move and hit you.
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>>585005930
>you're not doing the action of attacking the enemy
>literally a homing attack
>homing ATTACK
You really are not sharp...
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>>585005440
Bye Tailsanon. We had our differences but I never wanted you to go to jail.
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>>585005246
NTA, fuck that’s hot…
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>>585005898
Yes, but I was referring to the basic jump being a roll and defeating most enemies, not the roll - jump.
>>585005930
>Not true becoming a ball doesn't trivialize enemies
It can be argued to. Enemies like Crabmeats don't fire projectiles very often and make themselves obvious, so there's little threat from them to a casual player. Same goes for Ballhogs, or Motobugs, or Neutrons, with the latter two not even having any projectiles and moving very slowly. I personally don't consider it an issue because the enemies still serve a purpose when trying to play well, but the same applies for enemies in a game like SA2 by that standard.
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>>585006212
skill issue
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>>585006384
So the roll jump lock in the original classics is automation then. Good thing the Retro Engine removed it.
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>>585006212
That's just prep not doing the thing. Which is also all in jumping. Every single thing you say you need in order to better utilize the homing attack is used in jumping but better because you're the one doing it and you have more room for error
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>>585005836
And then Sonic kisses him Elise-style to revive him
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>>585004636
Blaming growing up with the classics is weird. I grew up with them and I disagree with that anon.

The Homing attack being lame was largely an SA1 issue. By SA2, they already took measures to make using it more involved and require more thought.
Heroes also is a great example.

Enemies in SA1 were basically level decoration and were more focused on trying to be translations of Sonic 1 and 2 enemies in 3D in a literal sense rather than being meaningful parts of the gameplay.

SA2 made enemies bigger, block your progress more, had instances of doors that required you eliminating some to progress and had more of them in specific formations to cut you off. The change to the more tight level design also helped with this.

Enemies started also being more iterative and evolved, to make engaging with them have more thought put into it. You have the somersault now to attack enemies from below or from the side because some have spikes on top, making the homing attack a no-go.
Others have shields and electric fields that require timing. Artificial Chaos are best handled by just SpinJumping into em because taking time to jump and then perform a homing attack gets you sniper by their tentacles and face lasers.
E-1000s similarly shoot at a rate that punishes just taking time to perform a homing attack and will get you shot.
There are even enemies you can't even kill that homing attacking over and over pushes back and leads to your death.

Also the homing attack in SA2 is performing it vs not performing it.
Because there was no reticle, you had to actually learn your way around the mechanic and figure out its range, targeting, timing, etc. When just used without a target, you get an Air Dash which has its own application and usefulness. Not paying attention to your surroundings will result in misapplication of either move.
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>>585001771
It's BOY dumbass
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>>585006634
>Blaming growing up with the classics is weird.
I don't think growing up with a game is bad or inherently makes you biased. I just highlighted the double standard in that post.
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SA2 is not the real Sonic
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>>585006538
I agree, you need to play well to use the Homing Attack effectively.

>>585006575
>That's just prep not doing the thing.
It's also while doing it. You make it sound like pressing the button is enough, like in Generations, but you also need to hold a direction at the same time.

>Which is also all in jumping. Every single thing you say you need in order to better utilize the homing attack is used in jumping
This is an admission that it retains all the characteristics. But it also adds, since it can be used to change direction and gain height.
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>>585005151
>The small gaps I was referring to aren't ones that force rolling, but oh well.
Show what you mean then?
>ball state is what balances the spindash in Advance 2, because the speed boost you can get from it is way more limited than what speed mode gives you
I don't see how. Every level is downhill.
>all characters interact with slopes
I didnt say they don't.
>function differently from Advance 2 ones
Not meaningfully so, nor is it really relevant.
>The Giant Step was way weaker as a speed move,
I don't know why you believe the Peel out has to have some fixed power.
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>>585006997
Wow you actually believe what you're saying
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>>585004982
In the classics with roll lock, the game is deciding instead not you, by this logic. Accepting that going in is where the Agency is. Same applies to HA at that point.
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>>585007114
I know it's true because I played the game and that's how it works.
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The Bound Attack gives SA2 more meaningful slope interaction than anything the prior 2D games ever did.
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>>585002934
Kek
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>>585005930
>Not true becoming a ball doesn't trivialize enemies
Especially for the standards of thr time, the SpinAttack was pretty OP. Sonic was criticized for being too easy and forgiving back then because of it and the Ring system.

In essence, the Spin Attack is like if Mario had the Star everytime he jumped or pressed down.

Some enemies like Bubbles, Catterkillers and that Dragonfly enemy in Sonic 3 are designed more around this though. But most enemies are more just a case of being in a Ball state or not.
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Meanwhile fans are still trying to create a 3D Sonic game without the Homing Attack that isn't either so complicated and hard to learn that it frustrates the average player (SRB2) or bland momentumslop everyone gets bored of after 2 minutes (Utopia and its clones).
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>>585007081
>Show what you mean then?
There's tight spaces in later levels of Advance 2 that usually involve moving platforms, but I'll admit that they're infrequent, so these can be ignored.
>I don't see how. Every level is downhill.
It's significantly slower than the characters' running speed when speed mode is active, and slower than even Sonic's air dash in that game. It can still be used to do slope jumps to recover in some places, but you'll have significantly worse clear times if you never use speed mode and only rely on the spindash, though some places have boosters or things like slides to achieve a decently high run speed even without speed mode, but that doesn't relate to the spindash.
>Not meaningfully so, nor is it really relevant.
I'd say it is relevant, as the changes are made to suit the different mechanics and stages of each game, but I can't say much about Advance 3.
>I don't know why you believe the Peel out has to have some fixed power.
It wouldn't be the Super Peel-Out if it was Giant Step, the two moves exist in different contexts. Hypothetically, if you're suggesting a move that functions differently but looks like it, it might work, but I don't think it'd fit Advance 1 or 2.
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>>585008642
Cool
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>>585007926
I think SRB2's commendable and interesting in its own right, but you're right that it frustrates the average player. I wonder how the development has been going, I've heard they've been trying to figure out a new ability for Sonic and implement more slopes into stages, but I am curious as to what they'll do to levels like Castle Eggman or Red Volcano which were made with the existing SRB2 Sonic/Tails/Knuckles in mind and are pretty complicated.
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>>585008913
Cool boy!
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>>585008452
>It's significantly slower than the characters' running speed when speed mode is active, and slower than even Sonic's air dash in that game. It can still be used to do slope jumps to recover in some places,
I don't see the conflict of interest though.
Seems like a non-issue.
>as the changes are made to suit the different mechanics and stages of each game
Care to explain it?
>wouldn't be the Super Peel-Out if it was Giant Step
The Peel Out is in Advance 4 and some of the game gear games. The speed it goes at isn't intrinsic to what makes it the Peel Out.
What the Peel Out is undeniably is just a rev move where you run in place instead entering a ball state.

The name of Amy's version of the move in Adv 3 is even just called "Amy Dash" (The Peel Out was just called "Dash" in japanese)

I don't see why, even if you believe there would be some balancing issue (not convinced) that it wouldn't be fixed by just nerfing the speed.
It's not like exiting ball state is hard in these games. All you do is short hop.
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>>585009020
I love SRB2, I find it sad that they want to completely redesign the gameplay because of how complex it is. In a way I get it, they want it to feel like an official game and those would never get as complicated as the thok. But at the same time, where else are the hardcore fans going to get this sort of experience if not from a fangame?
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>>585009276
lmao
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>>585009276
This took me too long to figure out
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>>585009262
>Advance 4
*Advance 3
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Advance these nuts into your mouth.
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>>585009276
Your dedication to forcing this meme is concerning.
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>>585000421
I wish we had more interviews about 06, the dev and ideas around it still hold some mystery to it
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morning /sthg/
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>>585009395
Why do you love west shit?
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>>585010040
The worst part is that he thinks he's genuinely being funny.
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>>585010002
You're supposed to Crack pistachios open first. Lemme help you with that.
Here, I brought my own hammer
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>>585010186
I hate Sonic. I hate Japan. I want to destroy the series. That's why I love Mania, SRB2 and Michael Jackson. I am the westshitter. Be afraid of me.
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YEAH!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjbzr1ms_2M
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>>585010425
>Mania, SRB2 and Michael Jackson
These aren't a problem though.
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Sonurge.
Shadamy.
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>>585010703
Cute and canon!
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>>585010663
I love Mania because it references GameGrumps. That's why it's the only good official Sonic game.
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>>585010853
Mr. Ian Flynn is OK
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>>585009262
>I don't see the conflict of interest though.
To put it simply, the spindash in that game is balanced by its slower speed and forcing a rolling state, which prevents it from being useful to achieve particularly high speeds or entering speed mode. To do so, you'll instead want to get a high ring count to initiate speed mode and rely on stage sections that let you run for long enough (or certain objects that force you into high speed) to do so. I don't think it's ever viable to use spindash to go for high speeds in that game, it's more of a situational tool, while basic rolling is used to defend against enemies and otherwise you'll want to be in a running or trick state as long as you can. Rails also contribute to this, landing on them from above will affect your speed or cut it altogether, and this can be partially alleviated with tricks, but this doesn't relate to the spindash.
>Care to explain it?
What I said above, but in addition, tying into speed mode, Advance 2 increases base movement speed at certain ring thresholds, and certain abilities, like Sonic's air dash, were made faster. Advance 1 has no speed increase system, and the air dash is way harder to use in that game for speed and is very slow if used poorly, while the spindash is more effective. Advance 3 also has the speed increase system, but it's said to be broken in the US version. Base movement in that game also seems to be pretty fast and odd, but I don't know the specifics for that game.
>The Peel Out is in Advance 3
My bad then, I don't know enough about that game's character-specific moves. In that case, it was a good fit for Advance 3 and you're right for that game.
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Name one good ship
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>>585011063
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>>585009395
They want to redesign the whole game? I haven't heard of that, I must have not looked hard enough into it. That's a shame to hear then, I agree, the official games are never going to be like SRB2, and many other fangames have been made with a focus on beginner players recently.
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>>585011063
Flying Battery is my fave ship.
https://youtu.be/rBSv4BLubgA
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>>585011063
Egg Carrier my beloved
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>>585009395
>hardcore fans
Lmao
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>>585011229
They want to replace the thok with a completely different move, so I think it's fair to assume the level design would adapt to that change. The've also heavily redesigned and have been redesigning the stages. Sorry if I wasn't clear about it being an assumption.
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>>585011063
Brave Vesperia
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>>585010192
Someone laughed
>>585009634

You might be the problem
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>>585011063
The Final Fortress is cool. Wing Fortress is also structured like one.
>>585010083
I think there were some Japanese sites from the time archived that had developer notes on 06, but I am not sure if these were translated by anyone.
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>>585011668
I didn't laugh at this one but I have laughed at others. He is funny.
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>>585011063
The Ocean Tornado
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>>585011394
Thank you for elaborating either way, I suppose we'll have to wait and see, maybe the redesigned stages will still be aimed at players that liked SRB2 being a more complex game, though them scrapping the thok makes me doubt it.
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>>585011756
>Final Fortress
I wish it had more levels. Largest ship that ain't Death Egg, and barely anything happens outside of Neo blowing up a part of it.
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>>585012058
One idea they were considering was a parkour wall climbing double jump, another making the thok extremely weak.
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>>585011756
Do you mean the leaked script? i already know about it, if you mean something else then ill take the japanese untranslated site too.
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>>585011575
Don’t worry buddy, I’ll get you outta there! It’s the least I could do since you did the same for me
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Sonic 4's trailer could be released any moment now
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I'M FUCKIN REETARRD!!
>>585011668
>Someone laughed
AH! I THE GREATEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED! I HAVE AN AUDIENCE! I HAVE AN AUDIENCE! I HAVE AN AUDIENCE! I COULDNA DONE IT BY MYSELF, BUT (You) ON THE INTERNET, IT IS FOR YOU! I IS FOR YOU! I'M THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! AH, MY EXISTENCE MATTERS! YES! YES! YES! I MADE IT! I MADE IT! I MADE IT! ME ME ME, MINE MINE MINE, NOW NOW NOW, MY EXISTENCE MATTERS! MY EXISTENCE MATTERS! I DID IT... I'm in the hallowed halls of Fandom... me... I'm ME... *dies*
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HERE'S YOUR FUCKING VIDEO GAMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCN5Fua-2RU

>TAILS NO!!!
TAILS YESSsSSSSSSs slurp slurp.
signed Jerma.
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>>584989550
Late reply but I'm glad that even non-Amy fans realized how out of character her dialogue was in Crossworlds. You can't compare her Heroes/Battle dialogue and Crossworlds dialogue and tell me they're the same character
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>>585012225
I meant this: https://sonic.sega.jp/sonic/soleanna/index.html
I was probably wrong about it having developer notes, but this is an official blog from one of the developers that focused on 06.
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>>585012904
I think windii translated this already, but ill look into it
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>>585012352
Any guesses as to what we'll see in it?
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>>584992989
>Worshipping ewhores
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>>585013064
Amy's gonna take Sonic's and Donutlord's dicks simultaneously, Longhammer up the ass
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>>585012352
Anon... It released 16 years ago...
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Any of you guys scratch your balls and sniff?
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>>585013584
No but your mom did that to me
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>>585013631
My mom's been dead since before I was born.
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>>585013584
all the time, particularly when I'm scratching my taint
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>>585013768
I'm so sorry, ano-wait, BEFORE?!
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>>585012904
Oh lol, appearently elise being a human girl was to ''increase sonic's coolness''?
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>>585013938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa0Yh6e7dw
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>>585013938
could be a egg donor that died before they were used
or she could've died early in delivery but they still saved the baby
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>>585013938
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_birth
It's a thing.
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>>585013997
It works if you aren't a normalfag or an insecure normalfag simp btw
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To clarify, I was joking.
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Today, someone's a necrophiliac.
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>>585014417
Corpsemaxxing
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>>585013997
That's interesting, maybe it was seen as an exotic kind of thing by them. I think the earlier blog entries are about the characters while the later ones are about the game itself?
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>>585014331
I don't believe you
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>>585014331
No you're a weird deadmom baby, that is now /sthg/'s collective headcanon.
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>>585014831
>Before I was born both my parents passed away
>On the day of my birth not even the doctor or nurses showed up
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>>585014521
Ok i think i understand the intention better after reading windii's translation, Elise being a human princess in specific was to see if sonic could still keep his cool in front of her. since nakamura described sonic's essence of coolness as, ''never pandering to anyone, but helping htem without betraying''
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>a species can be extint for a few minutes then the last baby/babies are delivered
I learned donething today from /Sthg/
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This is what an official open world Sonic game ought to look like. Urban and suburban landscapes with ambient car traffic on the roads and human NPCs on the sidewalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3xCjmgEecY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5VanJCKT1U

Even the fans know how to create an open world Sonic game better than Sonic Team
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Father
>"Unff!" *dies upon ejaculation*
Mother
>"YAAAAAAAAAAAAURGH!!!!" *dies upon labor*
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>>585014987
That makes sense, and is an interesting way to play with Sonic's character.
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What's their relationship?
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>>585015889
Mega cringe acquaintances
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>>585015889
Bad bitches
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>>585015889
Friends, there doesn't need to be anything more to it.
i actually like this one better than shadow/amy duo.
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>>585014987
The action stages entry seems to mention Kingdom Valley (misspelled as volley) being inspired by something, and that Nakamura was responsible for SA1's killer whale.
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>>585015889
I feel like Marine should meet Silver and try to keelhaul him for trying to steal Blaze from her
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>>585015889
Cucked friends
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>>585016017
Windii translated them
https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/director-column-soleanna-news-no-6-on-the-action-stages/
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>>585015889
cuties
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>>585015193
>>585015593
This is literally and without exaggeration what the life cycle of Cicadas and most moths. Spiders too.
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>>585015889
Cuck duo
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I will never forget my king Scourge
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>>585016323
That guy was definitely drawing him with a penis before he changed it to the belt.
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>>585015889
endgame ship
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>>585016112
Silver is the cucker tho
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>>585016167
Thank you, good to see it translated.
>the high-speed section features visuals inspired by the Decalogue
I still don't understand what this means.
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>>585015889
Mother and son.
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>>585016017
>>585016167
Decalogue appearently
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>>585015889
Silver is Sonic and Amy's descendant from the future
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>>585016410
>Big Silver
Ooc, he will be the smallest of the trio, and even more Ethan Amy when she grows up
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>>585016514
Probably movie, unless it's the literal decalogue.
Nakamura is a mysterious guy
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Don't entre anon, Amy is changing
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>>585016630
I am pretty sure silver being 200 years ahead instead of like 50 or lower was a deliberate attempt to disconnect him from people thining up stuff like that.
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>>585016779
it's okay she's my wife
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>>585016779
Joke's on you, I don't know what "entre" means!
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>>585016795
If Knuckles can be born without parents and a civilization who died 1000 years ago, Silver can be Sonic and Amy's son from the future.
When you explain how Knuckles makes sense, we can talk about Silver making sense.
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>>585016779
>Amy is changing
Shut the fuck up Ian
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>>585016653
silver is younger and already the same height as others
he will grow beyond them
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>>585017251
Lettuce will never be a lesbian
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If you're going to post porn can you at least make it tasteful and not gay or futa.
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>>585017247
Adventure 1 guide explains it, there were small groups surviving, that eventually led to knuckles, but everyone else died besides knuckles
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>>585017416
You sound insecure
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>>585016404
How do you know there isn’t a version out there somewhere with a penis?
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>>585017416
Amy futa is godly faps
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>>585017537
It's impossible a clan can survive with so few people for 3000 years
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>>584991390
this is the main reason why society would be muhc better if everyone was male and reproduced asexually, shit would actually progress much faster and get things done, instead females hold men back by being a tax drain and contributing absolutely zero valuable societal achievements due to their risk averse nature and conformity. sonic the hedgehog.
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you should draw your favorite Sonic character falling from the sky biblical-style
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You should draw your favorite characters fucking eachother.
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>>585017416
why the fuck would you want to look at inferior bodies
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>>585018225
Define what a biblical style fall is and I will consider it for the whiteboard
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times like these almost feel like the old sthg
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>>585018381
in addition to, yes
at same time? imagine

>>585018608
something like this, fallen angels and such
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Do you like Blaze now?
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>>585018874
Ew kill it
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Sonic is Hello Kitty
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>>585018153
to be fair i did also discover most men are also conformists at different things, the amount of non conformist males are more numerous than females but both are a minority.
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I see into the future:

We will get footage of the next major Sonic game first here. It will be edited to say Evan Stanley cannot draw human women. This place will argue whether it is legit whereas Twitter will argue why SEGA is trashing one of its own artists.
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>>585019365
...for boys
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>>585018381
But Metal doesn't have a robo dick nor mouth(unless you count that one IDW page where he transforms). So idk how he could please Blaze.
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>>585019452
Not even that anymore.
Just Sonic is Hello Kitty.
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>>584999849
Did you seriously dig through her account to find silvouge to see if she doesn't like Shadouge
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>>585019542
Lies.
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I am left wondering ''how'' of it when nakamura said ''kingdom valley is inspired by ten commandments''
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>>585019681
Nta, it's not that hard.
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>>585018590

>>585018482
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>>585019379
that means men are still superior
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>>585019832
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>>585019832
Since he referred specifically to the mach speed section, maybe it's referring to the biblical concept of putting aside the oceans to pass through? Since that section depicts something similar. I have no idea, though, it might really be referring to a movie called that or something else.
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>>585018874
It's Silvers fault
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>>585020110
Nakamura has a very vague poster vibe
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>>585019353
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>>585020238
If you don't know, you don't know.
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>>585020291
slop
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>>585020238
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I see into the future:
For Halloween the Sonic Twitter account posts an art piece of Sonic characters in Halloween costumes|| by Evan Stanley

||including Elise and Maria||
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Sonic characters like this?
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>>585020523
You screwed up the spoiler anon. That was the frightening twist and you screwed it up.
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>>585020698
Espio
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>>585020523
Cringe discord pedophile.
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>>585020523
How horrifying
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>>585018153
The concept of ''societal achievements'' or ''value'' being used to measure others is conformist in the first place
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>>585019992
i see disgusting mangled useless meatbags
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>>585020072
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>>585020523
>using Discord spoiler tags on 4chan
>Evan Stanley drawing human women
Truly the most terrifying Halloween scenario imaginable, and you didn't even need the spoiler tags to work for it to be a jumpscare.
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>>585020523
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVAN STANLEY CANNOT DRAW HUMAN WOMEN
KEK
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>>585020698
Tails in BoC
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>>585018806
I think I can try something with angels, I will prepare something for the weekend
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what brand of beer r u drinking
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>>585011417
Alien spussy
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>>585021394
Why are you laughing? This is a horror scenario.
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One day I'm going to run off into the woods and make a commune where we all roleplay as Sonic characters until the alphabet agencies show up and [REDACTED]
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Xtreme ships
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>>585011417
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>>585021230
well that's just logical, the only way to make societal achievements is to go outside the mold and try to make a change to how things are normally done, which is non-conformist risk taking behavior that men are better at
calling me conformist is also just proving my point that we're more conformist
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>>584973125
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>>584974024
We already know he's a twitterfag
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>>585022164
I am saying to be a non conformist(not necessarily a good or bad thing by itself) you have to stop caring about what is an achievement or valuable
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>>585022457
if everyone stops caring about providing value then society stops functioning and we all die
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Shadow's alien cock...
Knuckles' four-headed cock...
Werehog's red rocket...
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>>584985004
I think at the time Sam Register wasn't a hack and WB had a lot of money from their pre-80s warchest to do that.
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Ships for the resistance
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Sonurge
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>>585022718
Tails’ double cock…
Jet’s corkscrew cock…
Big’s barbed cock…
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>>584984475
>I'm starting to think you guys need to be moved to /co/
Nonono
/co/ fags need to go back to /co/ and stop refuging here because they're tired of hearing Boco's trap and other /co/ schizos in their shit board and /v/
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>>585022931
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why did they delete drift from boost gameplay
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>>584932182
Sorry for the late reply, I like Rotor as is just fine so no need, but it'd be out of my mind to turn that down anyway.

Say though, how would Rotor look really as Wererus (were + walrus)? His pre-reboot self makes for a good base but I'm thinking about his soft-boot one. I'm struggling to picture something minimum tasteful and cool looking. Would he have a plain penis? A rocket? A baculum even? An artist I like did this and it's nice looking.
https://litter.catbox.moe/bdhifa.jpg

>>584043898
>rotor dressing up as the boogeyman to scare you and then cuddles you to calm you down
>Haha you’d probably like that homo, hah!… hah…
Sorry for the really late reply too but that idea of yours gave huge goosebumps since. I actually really like the idea, Rotor on a cutesy boogey boogly snail eyed pajama costume kids, and had he scared me up... gosh I'd love him to hug me and gently lay me down along the bed, taking gracefully the sensation between his tough skin and comfortable fabric... I love that. And then hot rough sex and then aftercare.
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>>585023307
They should delete the quickstep next while they're at it.
And the boost.
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>>584971931
https://youtu.be/7-hsvWb7hY8?is=iqt4RpNXBo0Im1ux
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>>585022425
Come back sallysex poster. I miss you
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Sonic is Masculine and for bros and dudes.
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>>585023307
Forces was derived from Lost World, to my knowledge, and as a result it's like an odd imitation of previous boost games. Frontiers derives from that and, like Lost World, moves away from boost entirely in spite of Frontiers having some of the Cyberspace stages copy boost stage layouts.
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>>585021620
CORONA!
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>>585023724
true
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Sonic is a beast.
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>>585023965
also true
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Duofag, look what you did to her
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>>585023804
Forces has the Drift in Avatar stages, very rare though. Frontiers has the Drift unused in the code. Overall you're right though.
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... I'm surprised, the besties aren't on right now. Did they take some vacation?
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>>585024279
We are in a moment of peace and you want to jinx it
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>>585024279
Let them sleep
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>>585024012
i love him
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if the ultimate lifeform reproduced with the ultimate monarch what woo it look like
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>>585024279
Sonamyfags mass reported a Sonally fans art the other day
Even though he constantly explains that Archie Sonic is not the same as windnic
Even though he broke away from Sonally and drew Shadally before
Even though he goes out of his way to never bother them or draw Amy negatively
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>>585024902
She's a Tomboy princess
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>>585024959
ok but what actually happened is:
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>>585024235
what information am I supposes to gather from this
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Why didn't the Phantom Rider have any of the awesome parts of Kamen Rider
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>>585024959
>>585025137
Which Shadally is more accurate?
>>585025349
Phantom rider is too much ironic parody to be cool
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>>585025306
That we ned more art of Lanolin with her wool undone
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>>584991926
Boruto fans already becoming the GT/Archie fans of Naruto lol
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another relaxing sonic music mix
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Last one
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>>584984475
/vg/ is full of gachas that can be hardly considered videogames
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This ship has a lot of art.
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More good Shadally
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>>585026257
I ran out
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Sonic the Radical
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>>585025147
sauce?
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>>584971931
i dont know how people still gass snes farty sampler. Genesis synths had so much oomph. even the crappier soundtracks sounded clean. Also GB/NES idk what made them sound so good
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Boring thread with the same boring posters.
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CHILI'N AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SUND!

Okay, Kumpel, hast du Lust, ein paar Penis-Blanket zu machen? Dann legen wir los – schneller als bei einem Ring-Sammel-Lauf! Los geht’s – WIR MÜSSEN SCHNELL SEIN! Hier ist die Schnellversion:
WAS DU BRAUCHST

Rinderhackfleisch (1 lb)
Zwiebel, gewürfelt
Kidneybohnen + Tomaten (aus der Dose)
Chilipulver & Kreuzkümmel
Hot Dogs & Brötchen
Käse (optional)

SCHNELLE SCHRITTE

Das Hackfleisch in einer Pfanne anbraten. Zwiebeln dazugeben und glasig dünsten.
Bohnen, Tomaten und Gewürze dazugeben. 15 Minuten köcheln lassen.
Die Hot Dogs garen. Die Brötchen auftoasten.
Das Chili darauf löffeln. Käse, Gewürze – lass deiner Fantasie freien Lauf!
SCHNELL ESSEN! Es wird schneller kalt, als du denkst! Sonics Lieblingsessen: Dick-Decke, auch bekannt als „Penis-Blanket“! Nächste Woche: Vagina-Stroganoff
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>>585026898
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZb36ONkO5s
wtf is dis shit, get dat dafuq outta here
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqHl4Fpe1FQ
AHHH, much more iconic, I know every note
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The SNES had Chrono Trigger's VGM music on it. So I am calling BS on the SNES sounding bad.
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>>585023520
This is a good example of makong tails cool.
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>>585027262
Still sound like a low quality sample. but is notable better than most farty shit on the console. I sincerely avoid SNES/GBA music. Genesis and NES sounded better
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>>585026698
https://x.com/lefreakpng/status/2056110862562197759
https://e621.net/posts/6788950
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>>585025349
>that spinning gun trick
Realismfags are why we can't have cool dumb nonsense like this anymore.
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>>585025147
Kit is 6
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>>585025147
Sarge is 40
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Which fights are best?
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>>585028795
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>>585028045
The SNES sounds like ass and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't.
The Genesis roflstomps all over it.

ChronoTrigger sounds better on the DS.
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>>585026898
Agreed
SNES games all sound flat and like the OST is singing with its mouth closed and in the nasal cavity. I don't get why people defend it or glaze ot while shitting on the GBA.
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Quillbrella
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>>585030167
Isn't this more of a Parachute.
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>>585026898
OPL3 is a magical chip. Check out what some chiptune artists have done with it.
Thankfully we have bit perfect emulation of it thanks to the efforts of some dedicated autist.
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>>585001278
Didn't Advance 3 give her another spin dash charge that was on her feet than rolling up like other type combinations
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>>585026898
>>585028313
You like GB but dislike GBA? The GBA uses the GB chip as one of its audio sources, do the new ones (and the samples) really ruin it for you?
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Today's subject
Slavery
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>>585030817
sounds awfully compressed and crushed. even the best soundtracks sounded too noisy; screen crunch, no backlight and crappy sounds. dark times indeed
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Do you really have to use stage select and backtrack for all the upgrades lol
Did minmaxxers figure out how to glitch to each item 1st playthrough yet
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>>585031472
That is part of the gameplay, yes.
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Finally talking about video games
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>>585031472
You're supposed to get better at the game on repeat playthroughs.
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>>585032193
We should talk about Krack again.... I need her.
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Krack looks fuckable to me
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>>585030652
The main thing it gets used for is SiIvaGunner stuff and that only works because its a parody track that sells itself off of being goofy sounding.
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>>585031472
I mean you don't need any of the extra upgrades or the music instruments to beat the game. So I don't see what the issue is.
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>>585030741
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>>585032634
That is not true....
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It was a dumbfuck idea for Amy to be harder to play for no reason
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I'm hard for Amy
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Sonic Team ripped off the landscape designs of Frontiers from this guy. Video is from 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmhjqLxRIPs
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>>585033418
They did hire that man, yes
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>>585033395
You clearly aren't.
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I wanted to see how much this would compress
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>>585033621
Will the next game have urban and suburban landscapes like SA1 and SA2? That's really something that needs to come back
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>no namefags present while discussing games
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>585031472
Yes, its fun! Makes going back to old levels cool because there is more stuff to find! Makes the game feel more alive!
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>>585034323
I know which one just posted footage though
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>>585034458
SHHH
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>>585034323
I don't have anything to add to the current topic
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>>585026948
Rotor isn't boring. :(
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>>585033274
Why?
Real men play Amy Rose Mode, bitch!
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People hated Amy Rose for being girly and that never changed
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>>585034856
You aren't allowed to be girly and a respectable character because.....reasons.
Only dudes get respect. To get respect, women must act like one of the dudes.
#Feminism ...somehow
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So true agp sisters teehee
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>>585034856
It's even worse that we currently have a game writer who hates her for being girly and tries to turn into an asexual astrology girl and is being enabled by the lore team and Sonic Team's inaction
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>>585035168
>>585035168
>>585035168
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Oh the bestiebot is back on. Pity, was good while it lasted.
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>>585035214
>astrology girl
Amy was always into that stuff.
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Is it actually mentioned anywhere that silver's leaf hair is a momiji? or is it just informed speculation



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