Previous: >>584992812>NewsVersion 3.3 Special Programhttps://youtu.be/eskKHxhmjCEAgent Record | Severianhttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/46653676Agent Record | Phoenixhttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/46653231>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character Demohttps://youtu.be/wHxjO2Ut3Ic (EN)https://youtu.be/BBlnJrW0GeQ (JP)https://youtu.be/s-y-Vc1dVkU (EN)https://youtu.be/b9rqMnCNM10 (JP)https://youtu.be/w088eYNQW4w (EN)https://youtu.be/n1CR-XqPYEU (JP)>Upcoming Events for 3.2https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/166000All-New Program 09/09 - 10/20Angels Support Operation 09/09 - 11/30Potential Hypothesis: Reforged in Fire 09/09 - 10/20Clink Clank Pinball Knight! 09/10 - 10/19Shadow Chase Showdown 09/16 - 10/05Surprise Screening PLan 09/23 - 10/20Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 09/23 - 09/28Diary of an Orbie Parent 09/30 - 10/19"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/30 - 10/20Chronicles of the Hobbling Crow 10/03 - 10/19Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/14 - 10/19>Redeemable Codeshttps://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTZZZGRIND32ZZZINK32ZZZVOID32>Resources and Useful Linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friendshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds>/zzz/ OP Pastebin (use this if making new thread)https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
I love my wife Aria!!!
>>585017221Finally, a good OP
>>585017221Toriga's asshole must taste so good.
!!!airA efiw ym evol I
I love my pyromaniac girlfriend Burnice
>>585017305This aged badly
Oh boy, I hope Dracaene isn't a stunny!
Aria is a waste of pulls!Aria is a rugpulled jobber!Aria is a powercrept brick!
Ohh they different ID's now. I think anyone shitposting or coping about 3 and 1 and can stop now. The only thing pointing towards them ever being 3 in and 1 is dead now.
>>585017357Hello!!
Anti-loli schizo lost.
>>585017395WorseShe'll be a defender
>>585017293is Remielle 3 separate components of the same entity?be honest now.
>>585017395I'm okay if she is, skipped both Roxy and Dialyn
>>585017496>Retard doesn’t know how IDs workThe cope is just embarrassing at this point
your anus
>>585017546Was she not an assist the patch before her release?Be honest now
Pulchra wife = Happy life!
if sunbringer is fire then why should I roll for phoenix??
>>585017540It's okay unless she's free like Zhao (character death)
>>585017643I mean if you want to keep shitposting you can bro, but you're just looking retarded at this point
>>585017496If it doesn’t end in 1 it’s not playable lmao
>>585017515>pag humor
Horizontally-rotating Sunbringer.
I love Hoshimi Miyabi
Does anybody have the other screenshots of the /zzz/ alliance metrics?I want to prove a point again to our schizo about who the real audience is for Zenless.
>>585017686Why are you still holding on?It will make the inevitable hurt more
>>585017702She's cute? Different classes get separate bosses, attribute overlap doesn't matter.
>>585017757Aria's robot form has the same kind of ID the Sunbringers do
>>585017515This is as brown as it can get
>>585017686>answering a question with a questionnot how that works paggy
>>585017757>Doubling down on his retardationI’ll spoonfeed you this one time. All playable characters have an id that ends in 1. The only character this does not apply to is robot Aria and Seed Sr. The cope needs to stop, Eldreda is the main one and the other two are just her animations
>>585017498!!olleH
>>585017843
Lucia ELOWEN!Well? What do you think of her??
>>585017916The answer to my question invalidates your whole question
>>585017926>We're getting Sunbringer in 3.4>Elderena is currently in the epicenter of that >>585017518 with that being caused by what currently has Drac's Karma Core>We just got a new SB ID TODAY meaning they can change/make new ones.
>>585018057>ELOWEN!
>>585017515peak white humor
Imagine waking up to this!
>>585018101ID 1602 and 1603 + the presence of Aria’s Robot Form and Seed’s Mech & their associated IDs destroy your entire premise but you keep going brownie
>>585018104The one which is active and the only one we got as an assist was lindverne
ass
>>585017843>I want to prove a point again to our schizo about who the real audience is for Zenless.You guys are never in the same thread at the same time. Everytime its one of you talking as if the other one is here
>>585018193
>>585017843I too remember that Remielle far outsold all 3 of the idolflops. Lolipedo browns like you can't stop losing.
>New Sunbringer ID as soon as we get Eldreda’s model>1601 is just named Sunbringer instead of EldredaGuess we’re getting the OG back then
>>585018104>Elderena>improper use of greentextoh noit’s brown
>>585018207Not really Hey, big boyWhat's the character Id for the assist?
>>585018249retard he just responded to me
>>585018161This tranny said Velina's mindscapes are bad with Remi on his last vidIs he right?
Next beta will generate so much seethe no matter what happens lol
Why are you wasting your life to sit here and shitpost? You don't even play this game
>>585017843Here
>>585018315The OG is literally the storyteller.
>>585018564No she isnt
>>585018301BRUTAL mogging. Aria is the real Void hunter
What a shit thread
A R I ARIA
>>585018161Wonder when they'll abandon the Elowen name
>>585017803I see that Sunbringer equipped her daughter with ballistics
>>5850183831604 AKA NOT xxx1 LMAOthanks for playing brown
90% of the sunbringer discourse seems disingenuous lately.
>>585017221This might strike some of you as highly controversial but I do not care for Bagel mode.
>>585018709It's out anti loli guy shitposting, bro doesn't even play the game and just comes here to shitpost.
>>585018697Lying is bad
>>585018709Surely you don't think anyone is actually genuinely excited for her release
>>585017803Its funny her right ass cheek is just hanging out
>>585018709Shitposters are getting their reps in before the beta invalidates all their rrats.
Phoenix Raffaela.What do you think of her so far?
>>585018852Im excited for verne
>>585018630>100 literal whos is representative of the entire fanbaseLMAOOO the arishitter is coping HARD
No other team makes me feel as retarded when I fuck up. I know I can kill it.
>>585018818your fauxgina is leaking pus again pedotroon
>>585018963>Entire thread owns M6 Aria>You cope againBahahahah you lost>>585017843
>>585018852???, not sure what that has to do with my post but obvious yes. You're obviously in some little bubble of some sort.
>>585018946I think the sex would be interesting >>584957342
>>585018413No lol. I trust Leifa more.> Velina also has a very good 1st Mindscape, granting 20% RES Down to any Vortex or Windswept/Wind Abloom DMG triggered. I personally would usually recommend her W-Engine first I think because she has almost no alternatives but note that her M1 is also a big increase. The extra Daze can also help to meet some thresholds for Stuns easier.> Her 2nd Mindscape can vary drastically depending on the Agent and how much Anomaly Buildup they already do. For an Agent like Promeia, this Buildup benefits her greatly, fueling her Ablooms further for more DMG. The more Buildup your Agent can output, the less effective this becomes but is overall another good Mindscape. I wanted to note earlyish increases for her for those considering them as they’re all very good. Not required at all but it’s rare for an Agent to have their Sig, M1 and M2 ALL be big.
>>585017585Smooch
>>585018946Cute
>>585019024Keep coping and losing pedo
>>585018193Sniffffff
>>585018946Most sovlful agent of 3.X
If Dracanae gets announced playable I think our schizo might actually finally kill himself or uninstall
>>585019102~
>arishitterstop trying to evade filters, retard. I'm getting bored of adding new toddler brained insults to it
>>585019223seething ar-rear dickchopper KEK
>>585018946she owes me sex
>>585019223>arishitterit's you who keep avoiding filter, troony
>>585017843The AoD are Void Hunters in terms of ownership. The M6s will lean to Aria since she is the DPS of the group.
>>585018985Doesn't that imply your whole case is built on bullshit?If they're making whole new models then your number autism was always a waste of time
>>585019337Neutral here, holy shit what a shitty insult, you're losing steam
>official cool men emoteI won.
>>585018193I refuse to accept this.Yixuan would have a bush and probably Zhu Yuan, too.
YOU ARE TAKING ME TO THE MOVIES.GET YOUR SHOES ON.
>>585019464>totally not me here, you suck lolno refunds on your self-mutilation, Troonlulu
>>585017803I understand that some people dislike the Yixuan leotard, but i thought about this earlier and honestly i'll take this over a character having those skirts with weird out of place black shorts.Leggings like Trigger are fine too.
>>585019507Why would a single woman have a bush when they know they're going to the beach in a bikini?
>>585017395Cute and Stunny!
>>585019543I already did remember?
>His emote is literally (Cool) guyBased
>>585019445> If they're making whole new models then your number autism was always a waste of timeSo true, just like skins!Can you show us your Sweetie build?They went to the trouble of giving her a whole new outfit, she must be playable.
>>585019596okay but have you considered that it's possible to have something that isn't yixuan leotard or miniskirt+shorts?
>>585019223You don't have "flop" filtered?
nobody cares about your worm
>>585019423I thought Cissia was beloved by all
>>585018057I think she should ride my face until she squirts down my throat
>>585019748Like Koleda?
>>585017808Me too bro. Corn too. Appreciate you posting good art of Mibibi constantly.
Sorry safehornypags, Troonbringer is DEAD.
>>585019748Not that, I hope
>>585019807i love cissia in the story but i have no team for her
>>585018946I think she should ride my face until she squirts down my throat
>the majority of /zzz/ didnt actually take Cissia home
>>585017808>>585019926
>>585019807Cissia has fun animations and lines in cutscenes but she's a very redundant and not particularly interesting to play. It also doesn't help that people presented her as a Seed slave.
>>585019807> Everyone hated her outfit> Everyone complained she was the nth elec attack agent> Everyone said you MUST have Seed or she's a brick> Released right before seasons endingAfter banner ended> People figured out she can also use Dialyn Sunna/Astra like everyone else> Her personality tanked her terrible outfit and made people love her regardless> People don't like the new designs that much anyway so the outfit was a moot point regardlessOwnership stocks may go up after her rerun more so than other characters
>If I derail the thread to fake boogeymen maybe they will stop laughting at Flopret and Flopxy.
>>585019556I don't have the angels you, actual retard
>>585020137i'm an anomaly chad so i have no team for her, but i still rolled.
Am I based or cringe for saving like this in hopes of them adding a chick that's thin as fuck?
>>585017843Why are you posting this? Do you want JoeRaiden and BTrAnny to start posting pajeets redeeming ze BBC?
>>585020137Shame on all of them!
>>585020375okay but actually what the fuck is the problem in honkai star rail where their schizos post black dick AI porn with jeets
>>585019759>filterťřaňzleftist pædos really love censorship, hugboxes and safe-spaces huh
>>585019926I'm glad! It's great she frequently gets new art. I really like Corin as well and also post her sometimes, though not as a ritual post.>>585020151I liked the Frieren perspective trend while it lasted.
>>585020352you're cringe for saving them as taped immediately. you're just asking for a slip of the finger or elbow to cash in 10 tapes by mistake.
>>585020352how do you play this game without premiums?
>>585020280>the angels you, actual>SAAAAAAAAAR‘riabrowns just destroy themselves at this point KEK
3.4 will be Lindverne vs Yokai for the runback for the 3.2 stuffThen it will be Proxy vs Truvia II with Storyteller assist Then we save Eldreda and prepare for the final confrontation with Bashmu in 3.5
>>585017808
is this a joke
>>585018654probably the next time they crash out on stream about a loli character skin... So pretty soon
>>585020137>dedicated seed supportwhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>585020446Ok, that made me chuckle, Yuzuha
>>585020681Shishou is the ultimate hag lifeform all women in zzz will grow up into a carbon copy of her
>>585020137I took her homeFed herFed her moreThen impregnated her
>>585017496>they different ID's now>image shows same IDs still?
>>585020630You're still mad about being humiliated m6 Arias and Sunnaposting huh?
>>585017496Doesn’t this just confirm that the OG is playable since Eldreda’s id is 04?
>>585020137I dicked rolled for Cissia literally because of her underboob.
Penix flopped
Even if Eldreda is, for whatever reason, 3.4 she can't be 3 in 1 now that Bashmu is now Perfect Bashmu and still has Drac's core.It would mean fighting the final boss of the patch without countering.
>>585019058Yeah the bubble consist of me myself and I. Personally I just don't think that the first gen Void Hunters are good thing to be agents. I would much prefer they were dead or ethereals and all Void Hunters were new gen.Old masters is so seen concept.
>>585020681She's likely not gonna be playable, so, not a lot of effort
>Lindverne is the main sunbringerkek, I won
>>585020984OG is fucking dead and her corpse gets eaten by Bashmu. She's deader than Ed's mom.
>>585021024>She's likely not gonna be playable
>>585020984maybe you can't read but it says lindverne
>>585020681>Up is hag S11>Down is hag AnbyI see nothing wrong.
>>585020137I took her home because I'm straight and white
>>585020137I'm glad to be in the minority then
>>585021024that's not an npc model
>>585020472Genshin's corona boom basically doomed hoyogenerals to schizos due to their popularity. Somebody genned that AIslop and posted it on /gif/ a while ago. As a working theory, these schizos shitpost multiple boards or at least are terminally online. As NEET troonies, they sometimes go to /gif/ and probably survey the mentally unwell threads and pick whatever is up to spam it here. Whether they find this shit during melties or goon seshs is up to debate. There's a chance you could link the scat/BBCjeet/gore/etc webms spammed during melties to active /gif/ threads. Mind you the Hoyoschizos probably didn't start with Honkai, they probably hail from way older gachas/vidya.
KKKEKKK imagine being some kind of brown pedotranny and hoping the devs would make dracaene a whole agent, but then they gatekept you instead.
>>585018057>>585018161I will always read this name as "LOLing" because it's a joke character that unironically made someone troon out for her
>>585021006Anon, it's 100% gonna be VerneEldreda only appears at the end of this patch just get captured, with lindverne and the gang deciding to save the dayThat anon is just squeezing the last drops from the shit post
Sunbringer skins are mandatory because I want to look like a 2000''s American grunge rock band member as our devs intended with 1.0
>>585021184Why would Lindverne get another id when she’s had one since 3.0? And beyond that, why would it say tall body if it’s talking about Lindverne? Eldreda is the tall one
>>585021261Based, pedos blown the fuck out once again
>didn't answer my questionhe's 200% mad about the m6 Aria and Sunnaposting.
>>585021362I don't know, can be for any number of story or gameplay reasonswhy would they call her lindverne
>>585021267Holy brown headcanon copiumyou’re not meant to take all the pills at once, Ilham.
If it's 3 in 1 dracanae is still playable
>>585020137I wanted to but I'm not gonna replace Anby and I didn't like Cissia's gameplay.
Cutehari Murphy
>>585021408How can anyone be mad at this?
>>585018946still undecided whether to pull or not.Its either her or yanagi in the mommy sandwich
Zhao will be a Void Hunter
>>585021505In a cosmic sense, yeah.
>>585021408Incoming jeetbbc melty
>>585021539She committed the crime of unprotected handholding, that's why
>>585021236>all those M1sAre you a compulsive roller or just incredibly lucky with doubles.
You ever notice how as soon as you stop engaging with a delulubrown they start pining for you like 585021408?It thinks I’m gonna stroke its brown ego lmao
Sunna suplex
>>585021514ah man a Nier collab would be amazing...
need to pullpeenixvelihagpeenix ballvelihag balland norma ballI have 62 tapes
>>585021531
>>585021648DELETE THIS
>>5850217082B and Joker Persona 5 for everything!
>>585021408Stop or hes going to spam goatse again
>>585021717you only need 5 tapes
>>585021607Nah, if, and it's a big if, they're playable, then you'll likely get to choose any for over world walk-around Especially if they somehow shoot themselves in the head and sell 3 skins in one
Your date for the afternoon.Questions?
>>585020137started after her banner, will get her on rerun.but i need to get a team for her as my current selection does not work for her.
>>585021738no, its proof of her crime
sunna jumpscared by goatse spam on interknot
>>585017803>>585017843>>585018019>>585018501Uh oh
>>585021821Maybe for you but I can do it with just one.
>>585021864Canon
>>585021839Does she like movies?
>>585021656I graciously accept your concession, thanks for playing.
>>585021261I chuckle every time I remember that he was counting on sunbringer to be the first piece of evidence EVER that maybe the angels didn't flop.
>>585021864
>>585022010look at that cuite
>WORMverian posts dying ignored.It is because /zzz/ doesn't care about WORMS
>>585018946She turned me straight, she was everything Orphie should have been
>>585021839can i touch her tentacles?
this is the 3rd time in 3 days that Ariasamefag was caught and humiliated for hours
>>585022109What? How? Orphie was touted as serious at first.
I tried the Claret trial version in Hollow Zero against the Scorch Horizon boss.But she did not interrupt his control skill?What did I do wrong?I thought it was supposed to be an automated process.Please help.
>>585021652> I rolled for Ellen M2> I rolled for Orphie M1> I rolled for M2 Remie (Got spooked on the M3 with double win)> Paypigged for Astra M1 2nd Spending Event> Paypigged for Jane M1 1st Spending event> (Not Shown here) Picked Trigger for Season 2 anni for her M1> Accumulated Losses on Neko for the past two yearsThe only reason why I didn't M2 Jane is because I also have M6 Rina. I lose to her twice and get the fabled rat
>>585022356You still have to do the first dodge.
Aria won!Sunna won!Nangong won!Delulus wonned!
>>585020137>came out the same time as seed rerun when I didn't have enough pulls for cordis germinaYeah imagine if they gave more pulls in this game to let you grab more characters instead of forcing f2p to skip every other patch to have funds since 50/50s do absolutely nothing to boost your account progress
>>585022426>You still have to do the first dodge.Damn, I'm really glad I skipped this fraud class.
>>585022121Her tentacles will touch you
>>585021823Collab VH patch is wild like put the trannybait in a random worthless patch not the one browns care most about
>>585022429Lewd but true
>>585022561Don't worry, your Ben Bigger will be able to do that soon
This fucking game man
Someone taking screenshots of all the maxed out Arias and getting data from the guilds onto a graph just to shut up this one guy is the only cool thing to come from this.
>>585017803another ass better than zhu
Hurry up with the beta and spoilers so we can end this fucking argument about Sunbringer already. We already know theres 3 brand new skins.
>>585022329KEK no, outside of her brief appearance on the Season teaser her character demo showcases her as naive and in training. Clearly shows you how fanart can twist the way people look at a character. Like people expecting Troonbringer or Remielle to be le serious and epic shungus VH forces from the past by the 2 still frames from that VH video.
>Ariatroon is still samefagging it's own postsSad!
>>585019290I wanna do this to Yuzuha
>>585023038Dude, spoiler
So for Rina, you literally just change to her to press EX once and switch out and ignore her until her gauge is empty again, right?
>>585021839
>>585022845
>>585020734>let’s reward seed chads by making her BiS partner the most soulful agent in the game It was extremely based
>>585022329-cute clumsy ditz who is well liked and touted by her faction instead of being a kinda underwhelming badass military captain-godtier animations that actually DO DAMAGE instead of just being lazar beams for teh lulz-has a skin on launch because devs actually like the design and want you to love her just as much-was actually previewed in the patch before to get more comfortable and familiar with her, not just randomly dropped on you out of the blue like Orphie, signifying a long term working relationship and overall story relevancy (OBOL is starting to feel like the next Belobog faction where they had their moment and are just cameo characters now while Krampus is and has been a main story tier faction for 2 entire seasons now)
>>585020541Well, a vast majority of content gives you trial units, and all of Shiyu + DA combined gives you like 120 pulls for an entire yearYou're actually at a net LOSS for pulls on average if you pull full teams for meta
this game needs more women with wide pants
im fine with the 3in1 if their ult has some variations of the three of them doing a pose and blasting the enemy.
>>585023063You wouldn't survive
>>585020681what's wrong?
>>585023038I can't not see cheld
>>585018709Yes, the discordposters are pretending to like it to mess with the schizo
>>585022968You think the cuckschizo is gonna stop melting? He will find whatever straw he can to continue melting about whatever his gooner boogeymen like. >"But Dracaene is the least meta of the 3!">"This set numbers don't count unless they favor my agenda!">"This waifu sold more than this waifu, but please ignore how my queershit flopped in this data set">Slinging retardbabble while ignoring anything seriously addressed to his claimsYou either filter him to comfypost (which is extremely easy) or risk seeing his shitpost 2 times very 90 seconds. Just don't mention filters or he will start trying to avoid them KEK.
>>585021024man i cant wait until these stupid sunbringer debates are over
How to be evil: be Phaethon and fuck literally every single New Eridu women EXCEPT Vivian
Kakapo thiren, but they are an asshole.
>>585023475Every mastermind has a backup plan
The snacks.Give them to me.
>>585022968Yes, there are a set of skins that you apply to an agent called “Sunbringer” which skins Eldreda and her relevant Assist forms simultaneously so that they have cohesion in combat. Everyone already knew this and I’ve been saying it since 3.2 leaks dropped. It is not my fault that you chose to ignore this information.
>>585023305Very repetitive indeed but that color palette IS peak and Shifu cannot compete with the midtiers in that image let alone the peak that is Camellya (a.k.a. Blanco if they hadn't killed it)
>>585023374>"But Dracaene is the least meta of the 3!"How defensive assist animation could be meta
>>585023586I only have beans and hard boiled eggs
>>585023598They will still let you use her in over world in your scenario
>>585023475Realistically Vivian would just kill herself because she's that emotionally fragile and unstable
I like Eldreda Sunbringer and I want to fuck her
>>585023586
>>585020352Why even play ZZZ if no existing design appeals to you?
>>585023732Vivian seems to be the type that would force the sex instead of killing herself.
>>585023691> I'm released on the patch before the giga VH 3in1 unit with the Collab banner. Its owari da.
>>585020137She stinks ans farts during sex
>>585023374>This set numbers>2 times very 90 secondsoh noETL niggerbabble
I didn't realize I was this electric pilled. I really regret not getting Qingyi when I had the chance.
Alas, Severian did not defeat the curse.
>>585023923Your Koleda m64672365? Robutt may as well be free.
>>585023824Her final trust event proves you wrong
M6 Aria WON
JOYOUS PULLERSASSEMBLE
>>585023374I keep most things unfiltered but I'm always breaking my rules for whatever his buzzword of the week is. He's so exhaustingly boring... he isn't even accidentally funny sometimes like Eula or BTA or -ack.
>>585024019how did she do it? she beat void hunters
>Oh wow is that a cool male character released before the literal 3in1 GOD-level Void Hunter that's been hyped since before the game released?Why are they like this?
How come AntiAod schizos keep losing their arguments? Why are they so unintelligent? Why in the hell are "delulus" as they're called so highly skilled in the art of trolling? I don't understand?
WHY is LUCIA Elowen so SUCCESSFUL??
>>585023993Yeah, eventually. A lot of my losses have landed on Weeping Cradle, which I can't complain about.
>>585024151Delusions are core part of trolling.
>>585024081I mean technically speaking if we get a Wind Support that isn't worse than Sunna he'll be stronger than YSG and Sigrid by a good mile due to the 30% Wind boost as Roxy isn't that good with him. So technically if you care about META then you either pull him or M2 YSG
When
>>585024081They're not 3 in 1.
>>585024223Jesus, Grace CLANKED you.
>>585024050Because he is just a neet retard schizo with daddybucks (thus the VPNs) The shitflinging in hoyogenerals can get funny as you mentioned but this guy is seriously boring and unfunny.
>>585024343They are
>>5850243233rd Anniversary.
>>585024081you lost HOMO
They are not 3-in-1, they are 1-in-3.
>>585024312>30% Wind boostDamage buffs stack additively so that 30% ends up being less than 15%. It's also the reason why elemental damage on slot 5 is worse than PEN ratio for most agents.
>>585024395She did. I only got Fusion Compiler yesterday.
Sunna, holding hands gets you pregnant
>>585024460Very unlikely
>>585024534They're One For All and Bashmu is All For One.
>>585022573that's fine too
>>585024219Because you don't know what the definition of successful is
>>585024601Very likely
If you could turn one Bangboo into a human and then fuck it, which boo would you bang
>>585024675No
>>585024638The Sunbringers are All-for-me thougheverbeit.
>>585024707Eous!
>>585024638Why is Sunbringer the first half of the three Musketeers' catchphrase and Bashmu the other half?
>>585024081i will m6 vesper
>>585024707..Why would I want to turn them into a human to fuck them?
>>585024651
>>585024594>No it doesn't, I was holding the manager's hands for hours and no stork came at all
>>585023824I wish I could be raped by Vivian
>>585024790But will you W5 her too? If not you don't truly love her
>>585024747That's because you are Me-for-All you slut.
>>585024853Possessing Sunna and giving her first-person experience on the pleasures of sex
>>585024737Yes
>>585023824She hasn't lacked opportunities
>>585024790Same
>>585024151I don't know but I noticed his melty died when that Aria anon accepted his concession
>>585024081I roll on the men and the lolis, and then whoever left over I like.Worked out in the end for me I have a good variety of teams.
>>585024881
>585025026Nobody cares, Troonaka
Most lust inducing agent?
Vivian and Caesar buff for 3.4, I can FEEL IT IN MY BONES
Such an easy shiyu
Finally my Truviacoins are pumping
>>585024081Do you really think gay people would care about Midbringer regardless? When has Hoyo ever stated "Males don't sell well so we'll stop making them?" Lycaon is a standard character and he gets shilled in merch all the time because he is the poster male. You need to stop buying into schizo delusions that "Severian will flop and no more male characters will be playable".Just enjoy the game and roll who you like.
sunna watching forsen
SEX WITH
>>585025185
>>585017803>>585025185My wallet.......
>>585025174*topples*
>>585025185Jesus that tummy. And those ribs!
>>585025148Corin.
>>585025223that chin could cut diamonds
>>585025319>SEX WITHPhoenix when she accidentally got herself stuck in the washing machine
>>585017803>A real goddamn leotardFinally
>>585025520My diamond
>>585024081why you always try so hard to find an excuse for your flops?
>>585025591I don’t think you know what a leotard is
>>585025278Insane analwormer cope. He is rightfully arguing that worms are obviously placed on sacrificial timings regarding banner schedule and it's pretty obvious that they are not meta even at launch (aside from wormghter), he is not even mentioning once that wormbanners will stop, his post is complaining that worms are done dirty.Boy are analwormers so retarded to the point that they flame each other KEK.
>>585024853
>>585020681 we love shishou here.
>>585025379
>>585025789Evil chinese woman...
>>585025148Shifu
>>585024894m6 usually doubles their damage w5 is like +10% it's actually turbo retarded instead of just regular retarded
>>585025757>brown skin character >brown skin postNooticing
>>585025185That... almost looks like an outfit.
>>585025185Trying to wear one of D Sunbrigner's jumpers but there's a bit of a size difference
>pedo on pedo violence you love to see it
>>585026030manager!
>Fagrollers so on the edge after Ack2 left to the point that they are friendly firing xemselves in real time. Better start whaling your Sephiroth rip off......
meanwhile
Just because Cissia is so dumb and silly, they forget how hot and sexy she actually is.
>>585025208>2 VH>almost lost 100K
>>585026138Meanwhile straighoids on edge after the entire flop patch of Roxy and the other one
>>585025185>No pantyhose or stockingsBOOOOOOO
>>585026339>thinking I put any effort in that oneI may improve the scores for the sake of it but there is no need
>>585026362
member when homos tried to shill wormgo with his jp va?>BROOOOO HES LITERALLY LELOUCH HE CANT FLOP SO HECKIN COOL UGH>SEED SR NEEDS TO BE A ROBOT BECUASE MUH OPTIMUS PRIME VA KILL FLORA CHUDS
>>585025185El has snakeskin boots, Drac has buffalo hide boots. Is this a cowboy era version of the outer ring
>The gweilos did not pull the dykeslop at all, I repeat, the gweilos did not pull the dykeslop at all, release the Sunbringer models NOW.
>>585026415Why would be mad about a dyke duo cratering to the Mariana trench?
>>585026225She is in her own lane, being chased by Tigers.
>>585025520I played Guilty Gear Xrd, that chin is nothing
>>585026306Happens to most of us
Scaperollers are like skipbuyers in MMOs. They literally pay more money for less game
Uhm... Aria?
>>585026225Skiiiiip
>>585020137she came home tome in a single 10 pull.she was destined for me
>>585026415BTrAnny breathe!, your schizposts do not even make sense anymore, why would HeteroGODs roll for /u/shit that comes straight from Epstein's Island?
>>585026645you don't get it paggie, I roll scapes to show my devotion to that agent
>>585026626
>>585025208That Thracian was the hardest fucking thing in months. Had to retry MULTIPLE times.Good thing the others were first try good enough score.
>>585026661
What 3 things would a Remielle barbie say when you'd squeezeit?
>>585026731>why would HeteroGODs roll for /u/shit that comes straight from Epstein's Island?GOOD MORNING ROCKWELLSAARget a new script, Indog
>Claret and RoxyDefinitely having sex>Serpico and Truvia Definitely having sexI'm liking this shift. Hoping they confirm Seth and Jane too.
>>585026645Getting mindscape for old busted units is fine thoughbeit
>>585026573All gong's rerun sales btw. She did what she could.
>>585026860Makes the world feel more alive when the characters exist outside Phaeton's gaze.
>>585026860TRVKEnaka
>>585026847AAAAAHH KILL MEEEE
>>585026731Got xim lol
>>585026775>two meta teams>almost LOST the S+Looooooooooooooooooooool
>>585026849Pags getting internet access has been a disaster for every online community Even non-gaming ones
>>585026606>pluralThe world ain't so nice...
>only one for (You) character for the entire roscaelifer arcZZZ is healing
>Anon tells BTAschizo to breathe>The cuck defense force start scuckposting and samefagging a screenshot on cooldownWhy are cucks that pester hoyogames like htis
>Remielle + Velina builds add up to more than all 3 troonlulus combined ohnonono tar get audience bros, our narrative?https://zfae.net/leaderboard
>>585027162You tried this bait before
>>585026860>>585026946>>585026952troonaka.. you lost
>>585024323They'd have to pay the person that designed her
>>585027181>cuck defence forceBut the Wisebros aren’t the ones posting?you also need to learn the difference between text and image cooldowns, newfriend.
I....lost...? How...?
why robin why kafka
>mfw i get skibidi rizzed up by phoenix floyd
>585026849>585026860>585026946>585026952>585027041>585027162>585027185>585027340uh oh
>>585027348GODnaka's enemies...
>>585027351Both sides got a popular character and a literal who singer. A fair trade.
>>585027340It's cute how much you try
>>585017221>AoD are three separate characters >AoD also has unique skins each character >Three AoD works best in the team together >Most profitable factionThen there's the /zzz/ keks still believes that Lady Sunbringer is a 3 in 1 character when hoyoverse releases 3 different skins each Sunbringer and those three really screams the AoD mechanics.Imagine not saving for Three Sunbringers
>>585027348Dracoperbros…Lindonesianxisters…
>>585027107
>>585027348You weren't strong enough.
>>585025185https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUsrYVxrDwI
>>585027481Victoria Housekeeping, Section 6 and Yunkui Summit are all more profitable though? It's not a fair comparison but it's facts.
It's not the gear, I am incredibly bad at the game.
i smiled
>>585027348You weren't gay enough like Wise
>>585027481>Most profitable factionProof?
>>585027348Bangboo never win
>>585027480>It's cute how much you try
I activate "Rento Furi-"
Euro timezone is absolutely horrendous.I'm going back.
I won!
>>585025148
>lindverne is (you) baitVivian century of humiliation
>>585025720You're right, its a unitard.
> Season 1Everyone is weak to IceRelease ice Void Hunter> Season 2Everyone is weak to physicalRelease physical Void Hunter> Season 3Everyone is weak to fireRelease fire Void HunterTrust the vision
>>585027761Spiral Flutist....
>>585026529>>585025185I thought the lore for our game was that America (Outer Ring) (Old Civ) blew themselves up and now hollow disasters.So would it make sense that the reason they all dress and act like American?
>>585027751>EU>>>EUIt's the cuck filipinos. BTAschizo probably got his ass handed to him on /hsrg/
>>585027162>ZZZ is healingApparently a girl's friends, goals and entire life outside the Proxy stop counting the moment she likes (You). But ship her with somebody else and suddenly the world "feels alive". She can have her own life and still like the protagonist, anon. Your preferred pairing doesn't magically give her more depth.
>>585027481>Sunbringers are three separate characters>Leakers before season 3 said there would be 3 or more VH characters on Season 3>No one believes it>I also believe it and impulsively rolled on Roxy after Rem because unique element+ stunner>Sunbringers are three charactersFuck you bros for spamming false information that the Sunbringers are 3-in-1Fuck you bwos
>>585027481>Then there's the /zzz/ keks still believes that Lady Sunbringer is a 3 in 1 character when hoyoverse160116021603
>>585028004>Your preferred pairing doesn't magically give her more depthNice strawman. Nobody said a crush deletes her personality. It gets repetitive when different girls keep ending up in the same coy flirting routine with (You). Let some relationships actually develop without having to keep everyone available as a potential girlfriend. One character doing the dedicated ML thing is fine. I like seeing attraction, loyalties and commitments that don't all conveniently lead back to the player. Giving her a job and some hobbies doesn't automatically fix that either.
Remielle marked her territory. No one is going to challenge her for (You).
>>585027865Retard
>585028063Stop using Sexmielle to fight your imaginary boogeymen, chopped tranny. >>585017496
>>585027481>AoD>Profitable
>>585028108>Let some relationships actually developThen let the relationship with the Proxy develop too. You're comparing repetitive flirting with a developed romance, then crediting the difference to who she's interested in. Two other characters can get stuck in endless shipbait just as easily. Wanting more variety is fair, but “only one for (You)” tells us fuck all about whether the relationships actually improved. It tells us there's less of something you dislike. And you've already admitted that liking the protagonist doesn't erase her personality, so what exactly needed “healing”?
Halloween Boba with Remielle
>Mfw the Sunbringers were meant to be separate.>Mfw they gave the roles and kits to the HSR collab characters.
>>585027665Five hundred Rocketboos
hey! post the sex horse
>>585028108Go play Limbus or something
>>585028000Blessed post, this is how to get Soukaku to suck your dick in one night
>>585028254That's it I am filtering this one by MD5 toohttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/OKHrZI8e7yoZfD1ZNduI1Q/
>>585028270>what exactly needed "healing"?The constant need to make every new girl a potential addition to Phaethon's harem. You're right that shipping isn't inherently better writing, but at least relationships between other characters can actually go somewhere. The devs aren't going to canonize one girl as the Proxy's girlfriend and alienate everyone who prefers another, so all you ever get is endless flirting and romantic ambiguity that never develops into anything. That's the difference. I'd rather have two characters form a meaningful relationship than ten girls perpetually hovering around the protagonist because the writers are too afraid to commit to any of them.»
ZZZ would somewhat resemble a decent game if it had Limbus writers
>>585028339Sex horse just wanted to be cuddle horse but she just can't say no...
We all topped up in 2.5 for spending event rewards but used the polychrome on 2.6.
If we are getting more slop like claret and Roxy I'd rather uninstall
>>585028442it's her fault for being so sexy
>>585028520the devs proved that cope wrong by demoting dracaene to defensive assist
Breathe cuckie breathe!
>>585025185SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>hullo
>>585028426Bull fucking shit. ZZZ had great writing and pacing before half the Chinese fanbase threw a hissy fit because we weren't playing a super special World-saving xianxia protagonist and the world wasn't on fire every Tuesday. Now we're here.
>>585028424>plays a gacha game>hates one of the main aspects of gacha games
>>585028424>relationships between other characters can actually go somewhereAnd what makes you think those ships are any more likely to become canon? You're treating hypothetical development as guaranteed while dismissing MC romance because it might go nowhere. Endless shipbait isn't magically better than endless ML bait just because the protagonist isn't involved.
>>585028520>t.TRVKEnaka
>>585028426WriterLimbus only works cause director autism
>>585027481>Most profitable faction
I’m a wimp
>>585028690>Endless shipbait isn't magically better than endless ML baitNobody said it was. The difference is that relationships between other characters aren't inherently constrained by the need to keep every girl romantically available to the player. They can actually commit to something without upsetting the entire harem. That's considerably more room for development.
Ariaschizo proved that he's untrustworthy at the moment of his first samefag. I don't see how this caught any of you off guard.
>>585028647I NEED good Sigrid art
>>585028004>a girl's friends, goals and entire life outside the Proxy stop counting the moment she likes (You)It's just a coincidence that they disappear after they meet the Proxy.
>>585028663>ZZZ had great writing and pacingLmao
Wise is too busy getting sexed by Miyabi to protect Roscaelifer
>>585028647how can one horse be so goofy, cool and hot at the same time?
>>585028779>They can actually commit to somethingAnd have they? You're judging ML by its worst execution while praising other ships for their hypothetical potential. A girl liking the Proxy doesn't prevent her from developing as a character, and replacing player-directed bait with shipbait isn't some revolutionary improvement in writing.
Ellen sexSex with Ellen
>>585028674Real gacha games let you marry the bitches, pagbroNuHoyo is the only company that won’t commit
>>585028663What’s this about? Did the fanbase got angry cause wise and belle couldn’t fight or something?
>>585028832i don't have any
>>585028869>And have they?Some are being given room to, which is the entire point. Nobody claimed every ship is brilliantly written. The difference is that character-to-character romance can eventually reach a conclusion, whereas the perpetual (You) teasing is deliberately designed to maintain the status quo forever.
Is this good Sigrid art?
Developed relationships like Claret x Roxy
I skipped almost the entire season 3 agents at this point,they better release 3 seperate Sunbringers to make up for this.
>You don't get it, the character MUST cuck me with a woman/man or else it is poorly written, I don't care about background, motivations, character growth and closure, I need to get cucked!>Wdym having all the girls is good? I have low testo due to obesity/HRT, I cannot feel the basic male reproduction drive of sexing as much women as possible!
>>585027481>Ugly idol brats>Most profitableNot even close
>>585028932>character-to-character romance can eventually reach a conclusionSo can MC romance. You're confusing a writing choice with an inherent limitation of ML. Besides, the same commercial incentives discourage canonizing other pairings. You're celebrating hypothetical possibilities while treating player-directed romance as fundamentally incapable of development. That's a double standard.
>>585028406
>>585028763Yeah a lot of the stuff on limbus only works cause of the dogrector and their unbending autism lol
>>585028995
>>585029003>That's a double standard.No, the incentives aren't symmetrical. Canonizing one Proxy romance risks alienating fans of every other heroine. Pairing two side characters doesn't carry the same baggage. Both can end up as bait, but pretending they face identical commercial constraints is ridiculous.
>>585028779That's only a problem if you want their relationship to be romantic tooWhich as you understand, most aren't intoBur thanks to shippers, everything is potentially romantic, and if you feed them even a bit, they're gonna become unbearable The source of the issue is not the self inserters, if indeed you're being honest
>>585028952no, her tail is in the way
He's going to keep replying to that singular post. Idols won.
>>585028912>NuHoyo is the only company that won’t commitSo we need more shipping, sure thing buddy
>>585029073>Pairing two side characters doesn't carry the same baggageIt absolutely does when those characters are being sold as waifus. Canonizing a relationship can alienate fans who want either character for themselves. You're pretending gacha monetization suddenly stops influencing the writing when the protagonist isn't involved.
Loving VelinaVelina love
>>585028973
>>585029139>Canonizing a relationship can alienate fans who want either character for themselvesSure, but that's still a smaller risk than choosing one canon girlfriend for the Proxy and invalidating every other romantic option. Nobody said side ships are immune to gacha pandering. They're simply less constrained by it. It's a difference of degree, not kind.
>>585029073You're either very naive or very disingenuous Wanna guess why most didn't buy into Roxy and claret? You should know the answer
>>585029223>It's a difference of degree, not kind.And you're still assuming romantic development requires a canon couple. The Proxy can develop meaningful relationships with multiple heroines without choosing one exclusively. You're treating the lack of a definitive romantic ending as proof that everything preceding it is meaningless, which is a pretty narrow understanding of character development.
>>585029073>risks alienating fans of every other heroineLiterally no one ever cared about this.
>>585029113I didn’t say that, paggieI only commented on the way Nuhoyo operates
>>585029284>The Proxy can develop meaningful relationships with multiple heroinesIn theory, sure. In practice, those relationships are deliberately kept romantically ambiguous so nobody's favorite girl becomes unavailable. You can call that development, but if the romantic dynamic never meaningfully changes, it's just the same flirting on repeat.
I left this general for like 2 months, but it looks like nothing changed, it’s like I never left
please pretend i won
>>585029347>if the romantic dynamic never meaningfully changes, it's just the same flirting on repeatThen criticize the stagnant writing, not the fact that girls like the Proxy. You're still assuming relationships between other characters will somehow escape the exact same problem. A romance doesn't need an exclusive, definitive ending to be meaningful, and unresolved shipbait isn't inherently more substantial than ML.
Stop posting girls's feet its disgustingPlease crop your images so they dont show those smelly things
>>585029424>Then criticize the stagnant writingThat's exactly what I'm doing. The constant (You) pandering encourages that stagnation because every relationship has to remain open-ended. Other ships can suffer from the same problem, but at least they aren't built around keeping the protagonist's entire dating pool available indefinitely.
>>585029308>I didn’t say that, paggieStop replying with unrelated shitposts then
>>585028952Would those be called grippers or cum catchers
>>585029347That's how it isIf you go heavy into shipping, you'll invite shippers in which kills off the waifufag demographic cause they're a complete anathema to each other
>>585029506>every relationship has to remain open-endedAnd why is that inherently bad? Romantic tension, growing affection and emotional intimacy can all be meaningful without an exclusive commitment. You're arbitrarily making canon pairings the benchmark for good romance, then acting like anything that doesn't meet it is worthless pandering.
>>585029395Delusiontroon... sorry, but I just won't.
Everyone has sec with each other the end
>>585028952Yes
WHY ARE PAGS USING CHAT GPT TO SHIL KEKKING, I FUCKING CANT KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK>>585028108>>585028424>>585028779>>585028932
>>585029574>Romantic tension, growing affection and emotional intimacy can all be meaningfulSure, provided they actually progress. When every romantic interaction leads back to the same ambiguous status quo, it stops being development and becomes an endless marketing loop. I don't need canon marriages, just relationships that can meaningfully change.
If the game tries to lean into shipping it will unironically crash
>>585029695>I don't need canon marriages, just relationships that can meaningfully change.Then judge them by their actual development, not by whether they involve the Proxy. Your original argument was literally celebrating how few girls are into (You). That's not a critique of stagnant writing, it's just your shipping preference masquerading as one.
Sigrid has erotic feet
>>585029774>it's just your shipping preference masquerading as one.They're connected, anon. When every new heroine is expected to leave the door open for (You), their relationships inevitably start following the same formula. Fewer ML characters means more room for different dynamics. Nobody said those dynamics are automatically better written, just that variety is preferable to endless romantic pandering.
Canonizing my waifu OTP goodSimple as
>>585029424> Then criticize the stagnant writingNta but I’ve been away from the game for a while did it really not improve?
>>585029651POV: a group of delinquents asking her if she’s alone
>>585029695Not necessarily
>asking AI if something is AI generatedNot very smart today aren't we...
So phonix is 200% a scamalso explains why she has no disc setwell, what now bros?
>>585029690>Schizos don't even type their melties anymore, ChatGPT does it for them/zzz/ is seeing is darkest days.
>>585029864>Fewer ML characters means more room for different dynamics.That's a false dichotomy. A girl can have friendships, rivalries, ambitions and meaningful relationships with other characters while also liking the Proxy. You're acting like romantic interest in the protagonist somehow consumes her entire personality. Variety comes from writing different characters, not from restricting who they're allowed to fall for.
>>585029948>Variety comes from writing different characters, not from restricting who they're allowed to fall for.And nobody's restricting anything. You're arguing about what's theoretically possible while ignoring the formula the writers actually follow. When every heroine is expected to flirt with the Proxy, those interactions become predictable. Nobody wants ML banned, anon. We're just glad it isn't the default anymore.
Do we have pull estimates for the patch yet? I have 20 pulls and a dream for Velina/ Phoenix and I am afraid
>>585029864And more room for shipping Which is badI don't want to play a game where all we get is endless clarets and roxys
>>585029948>A girl can have friendships, rivalries, ambitions and meaningful relationships with other characters>Hoyolol
>we
>>585030013>We're just glad it isn't the default anymoreThen stop pretending it's some objective improvement in writing. ZZZ was never particularly ML-heavy to begin with. You're celebrating the absence of something you dislike, not the presence of something better. Replacing (You) pandering with shipbait doesn't magically make the character dynamics more varied or interesting.
>>585029937>So phonix is 200% a scamwhy? just means you can use her on Sunbringer shill content.
Bibian Banshee
>>585030075>You're celebrating the absence of something you dislike, not the presence of something betterThose aren't mutually exclusive, anon. Less obligatory flirting gives the writers more freedom to explore relationships without making everything revolve around Phaethon. Whether they capitalize on that freedom is another question, but I'd rather see them try something different than keep recycling the same romantic teasing.
LOST
Angels of Delusion.
>>585030080>just means you can use her on Sunbringer shill content.we've seen how devs handled this before they'll just make the boss heavy resist anomalyyou only need 1 dps per element if phoenix gets rugpulled
>>585029690>it's 100% AI>even the greentext parts which are direct quotes from the other poster(s) who (presuambly) isn't using AII don't have a horse in this race but there might be something wrong with your detector
>>585030162>Less obligatory flirting gives the writers more freedomFreedom from what, exactly? You still haven't demonstrated how a girl liking Phaethon prevents her from having meaningful relationships with anyone else. You're celebrating the removal of an imaginary constraint without showing what it actually improves.
>>585029690Kek, explains fast replies to each other and no replies to any other post
The beta should just happen asap to put a lot of this retard arguments to rest one way or another
>>585030241>without showing what it actually improvesClaret and Roxy can develop chemistry without the writers constantly reassuring you they're still romantically available to Phaethon. Nobody said ML makes other relationships impossible. It just gives the writers another reason to avoid committing to them, and people are tired of that formula.
>>585030262That's the dead giveaway. Doesn't that count as botting/flooding?
Turbo fucking retards
>>585030332>Claret and Roxy can develop chemistry without the writers constantly reassuring you they're still romantically availableAnd they could develop that exact same chemistry while liking Phaethon. You're still confusing romantic availability with an inability to form other relationships. If the writing is good, neither gets in the other's way. You're inventing limitations to justify your preference.
>>585030239"Both" posters are AI
>>585030131>>585030165
>>585030332Those two could never be seen again and it would be too soon
>>585030419>If the writing is good, neither gets in the other's wayAnd if the writing were good, we wouldn't be having this argument. You're defending what ML could theoretically be instead of what ZZZ actually does with it. Nobody's saying attraction to Phaethon makes other relationships impossible. We're saying the writers consistently prioritize keeping romantic options open over letting those relationships progress.
Phoenix.Yes or No?
This whole year has been a disaster
>delusiontroony goes silent in order to defend shipshit using aiClown world.
>>585030227>they'll just make the boss heavy resist anomalythen it's Eve time. not rolling a honkai character no matter what
>>585029574It's not the quality of the relationships, but the quantity. If every single girl falls head over heels for you in the space of a single patch, it doesn't feel earned. I'd say this issue reached its peak with Yidhari, who ended up feeling more like a vessel for pandering than a fully-realized character. Even the devs realized this issue which is why they've been focusing on developing the Proxy/Remielle relationship consistently over the past several patches instead of making the MC the most important person in the lives of every on-banner agent.
berina
>>585030503>the writers consistently prioritize keeping romantic options open over letting those relationships progressAnd your evidence is what, a couple of vaguely suggestive interactions between Claret and Roxy? Funny how unresolved romantic teasing suddenly counts as meaningful development when it doesn't involve the Proxy. You're holding ML to standards your preferred ships haven't met either.
>>585030454I like how she's canonically NOT the choice. The ONLY girl that isn't the choice.
>>585030558Ye
I’ll be honest the writing will be shit either way at this point it’s clear the devs are not good at that
>>585030503saarGPT post
>>585030587>You're holding ML to standards your preferred ships haven't met either.Nobody said Claret and Roxy are already a developed couple. The point is that their relationship can actually progress without the writers having to preserve both as potential girlfriends for Phaethon. You're demanding proof of a completed romance while defending years of (You) teasing that goes nowhere.
>>585030227>you only need 1 dps per element if phoenix gets rugpulledHaving 3 different elements covered is enough as no boss resists more than 2 attributes.
>>585030567>then it's Eve timeYou are not clearing with eve in 2026 also phoenix needs remielle which is a honkai character
>>585030601Belle stomach lick and suck
>>585030579>they've been focusing on developing the Proxy/Remielle relationshipThey have?
Don't tell Wise, but I'm currently balls deep in his sister
Why set up this chatbot theater?
>>585030687>defending years of (You) teasing that goes nowhereYou're still treating romantic exclusivity as the only meaningful form of progress. Trust, intimacy and emotional attachment can all develop without a definitive commitment. If Claret and Roxy's chemistry is meaningful before they're even a couple, why does that same standard suddenly stop applying when the Proxy is involved?
>Sunbringer is 3 in 1Who won and who lost if this happens?>Sunbringer is 3 separate toonsWho won and who lost if this happens instead?
Awfy tyme
>>585030769>why does that same standard suddenly stop applying when the Proxy is involved?It doesn't, anon. The problem isn't that those interactions are meaningless, it's that they're repeated across half the roster without ever changing the romantic status quo. Claret and Roxy might end up as equally pointless shipbait, but at least their dynamic isn't designed around keeping a dozen different girls available to the same protagonist.
>>585030804
>>585030725you can use Yuzuha too. I'm not even rolling Phoenix myself, just saying that she's a much more tasteful pull than the sunbringers.
>>585030850>at least their dynamic isn't designed around keeping a dozen different girls availableAnd there it is again. You're fine with pointless shipbait as long as it isn't ML. The number of girls interested in Phaethon has nothing to do with how well their individual relationships are written. You keep calling it a writing problem, but your actual objection is who they're attracted to.
>>585030558Yes from me
>>585030926>your actual objection is who they're attracted toPartly, yes. I'm tired of Phaethon being the default romantic center of every girl's life. That doesn't mean other ships get a free pass for bad writing. I simply prefer a cast whose romantic relationships don't all revolve around the player. Why is that so difficult to understand?
>>585030873we all love orphie here
Due to low user participation...Orpheus Magnusson Time has been cancelled.
I am the only real person here!
>>585030992>I simply prefer a cast whose romantic relationships don't all revolve around the playerThen just say you dislike ML, anon. Nobody's arguing you can't have that preference. The problem is that you spent this entire discussion pretending it's an objective improvement in writing. Your personal dislike of protagonist-centered romance isn't a flaw the game needs to "heal" from.
>>585030740Yes? She's been a major part of every patch since 2.7.
Okay so after the news info, I'm now moderately disappointed with the Phoenix skin because what I thought was a heart rate monitor is supposedly just a blood pressure monitorWhich also makes zero sense, how the fuck is "76" a proper blood pressure reading
Still saving for M6 Velina and M6 Miyabi
>>585029095Imo the tail giving you a partial ass view makes it hotter
For those who didn't notice, it one guy on both sides of the argument, with gen arguments
Orphie and Magus should be fat.
>>585031073>Your personal dislike of protagonist-centered romance isn't a flaw the game needs to "heal" from"ZZZ is healing" is a shitpost, anon, not an objective literary assessment. I think less obligatory (You) flirting makes the cast more varied and interesting. You can disagree without pretending every preference needs to be justified by some universal standard of good writing.
>>585030725I used Eve in the previous Shiyu rotation.
>>585031023Sunna is not conscious
>>585031087it's 76 over 00 if you look closely
>>585031162>less obligatory (You) flirting makes the cast more varied and interestingAnd we're back to square one. Romantic interest in Phaethon is one aspect of a character, not her entire personality. If you need girls to stop liking the protagonist before you can appreciate their other relationships, that says more about your fixation on ML than the writing itself.
>>585031112
>>585031257>that says more about your fixation on ML than the writing itself.And you're the one who can't accept that people might prefer something else. I never said liking Phaethon erases a character's personality. I said making him the romantic default gets repetitive. You keep arguing against a claim nobody made because you can't defend the formula itself.
>>585031102
>>585030919>you can use Yuzuha too.so she still gets powercrept by sunbringer and you dont even have her meta team kek
>>585031326>you can't defend the formula itselfBecause I'm not defending repetitive writing, retard. I'm questioning why your solution is less ML rather than better ML. You keep treating romantic interest in Phaethon as the source of the problem when the actual issue is how those relationships are handled. Removing them doesn't fix bad writing.
>>585031006orfee
>>585030601
>>585031223That pressure makes even LESS sense, and frankly I'm pretty sure that defies the laws of physics
>>585031412>why your solution is less ML rather than better MLBecause variety is part of better writing, anon. Even perfectly executed ML would get repetitive if every other heroine had the same romantic destination. There's nothing wrong with some girls liking Phaethon, but there's also no reason he should be everyone's default love interest.
>>585031274horse love
>>585029873THE wife
>>585031491>Even perfectly executed ML would get repetitive if every other heroine had the same romantic destinationWhy? Sharing a love interest doesn't make their personalities, motivations or relationships identical. Different girls can develop completely different dynamics with Phaethon. You're confusing variety in characterization with variety in romantic targets, as if the latter automatically produces the former.
>>585031463Bibi is so humble
>>585031589>Different girls can develop completely different dynamics with PhaethonSure, but that's only one kind of variety. You can give every heroine a unique personality and still have all their romantic arcs revolve around the same guy. Different character dynamics and different romantic interests aren't mutually exclusive, anon. Why settle for one when you can have both?
Despite the insane competition she has, Lindy is the best girl in S3.
Why is there 2 bots arguing here is this a new shitposting tactic?
>>585031463Bibi...
>>585031645>Why settle for one when you can have both?Because romantic variety isn't inherently a virtue, anon. A cast can have diverse relationships without distributing its heroines among different love interests. You're treating romance as a quota that needs filling rather than judging whether the individual dynamics are actually compelling.
>>585031727>You're treating romance as a quotaNo, I'm questioning why the protagonist needs a monopoly on it. Individual ML relationships can be well written while the overall pattern still feels contrived. A world where characters develop romantic interests independently of Phaethon feels more organic than one where every heroine conveniently falls for the same guy.
>>585031714Imagine the blowjobs
Spent four hours today teaching Soukaku how to give me a tailjob, ama
>>585031790>every heroine conveniently falls for the same guyExcept they don't. You're exaggerating occasional flirting into a universal harem just to make your argument work. Besides, ZZZ is a waifu gacha, not a dating simulator striving for romantic realism. Characters being attracted to the protagonist isn't inherently less organic than conveniently pairing them off with each other.
>>585031638She was actually passive aggressive and pissy before that.
>>585031870>ZZZ is a waifu gacha, not a dating simulatorExactly, so why should every heroine be expected to entertain the possibility of dating Phaethon? You're appealing to genre conventions to justify a formula you supposedly don't care about. And if the flirting is as occasional as you claim, why are you so bothered by the game moving away from it?
>>585031964>why are you so bothered by the game moving away from it?Because you're celebrating its absence as if it were some kind of narrative achievement. Nobody said every heroine needs to fall for Phaethon, but there's nothing wrong with appealing to players who enjoy that dynamic either. Why does your preferred kind of romance require getting rid of someone else's?
Even Wikipedia jannies with their staunch anti-AI stance know that GPT-Zero is not reliable for AI detection and you shouldn’t rely on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_AI_Cleanup/Guide_and_resourceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_LLM_unblock_requests
Why can't Phaethon just accept Vivi's love?
>>585032065>Why does your preferred kind of romance require getting rid of someone else's?It doesn't. One girl being into Phaethon is fine. I just don't want every new heroine written with the same obligatory romantic bait. You're acting like losing a few hypothetical girlfriends is some great injustice when the game is simply giving other dynamics more room to exist.
Your response??
>>585031928That fist? All the way up my ass to the forearm
Leaks when
ZZZ wasn't even a harem game at the start, Grace's trust events for example have basically zero romantic tension because she's too autistic to date. That shit only started because they wanted to copy what Wuwa was doing with every girl slobbering over MC's dick, because they were still in their wandering through the wilderness phase due to the playerbase rejecting TV mode so harshly.
>>585032201We already got all the CG stills.
Sunbringer 3-in-1 confirmed. /zzz/ BTFO
>>585032172Bibi
>>585032172I'd have no choice but to let her ride my face until she squirts down my throat
>>585031345oh no. whatever shall I do without the completely worthless currency from DA hard mode...
>>585032172Signal my other stalkers to take her down.
>>585031702>insane competitionShe has 0... all my favorites are clearly from s1 and 2.
>kafka robin collab banners>sunbringer banner>storyteller bannerPredict Severian's banner state.
>sunbringer>3-in-1>ArmorerWelp anyone that skipped claret is fucked
>>585032350Those black fingernails lightly scratching and teasing my foreskin
>>585032083Okay..? Who asked
Is Yuzu cheating on Alice?
>>585032476Skipbringer
>>585032172>alright fine, you can watch, Vivian...
>>585032472Certified male banner. Will shatter all records because even if you've had sex, he looks boring as fuck.
What is with these female employees?
>>585032359>oh no whatever will i do with my bricked unit and poverty team that cant even clear endgameuhh nothing? lmao
>>585032476>He is still shilling for Claret
Yeah guys, all but one Sunbringer is MIA going into 3.4 with one being gatekept from waking up by what is now the final boss, but it's totally going to be 3 in 1
>>585032147>One girl being into Phaethon is fine.One ML heroine doesn’t satisfy every ML fan any more than one side pairing satisfies every shipper. People like specific characters and relationships, not a quota marked “romance provided.” You’re asking for the cast to accommodate your preferences while mocking other players for wanting exactly the same consideration. Neither side is entitled to every character, but neither side’s disappointment is inherently ridiculous. So what makes catering to you “creative freedom” and catering to them “obligatory pandering”? Calling your preferred outcome “healing” doesn’t answer that.
>>585032415Remi would freeze time and run away with your body, and tie you up to a bed before she has her way with you.
Huh? Where are you guys getting the info on 3-in-1 Sunny and her being armorer? I don't see it on leaks plebbit...
>>585032736Wasn't one of the event ESD agents gay for Sigrid and Remie too?
>>585032147The issue isn't even how many girls are dateable, it's that they force the (You) pandering into the main plot instead of making it an optional thing that you have to build up over time, which just ends up making the interactions with the MC feel insincere. Even harem gachas like Blue Archive understand this point- if your waifu is easily discarded after a single patch for the next FoTM she's not a good waifu.
>>585028920I'm all in for fat asses, please bring more... But this shit looks stupid as fuck.
>>585019823>>585020079>>585032350His endgame?
>>585033032I don't remember.I would assume so.
>>585032952Then she would yap to me about how she saved my life.Vivian's brains are splattered on the street, bitch. You didn't need to timestop rape me.
Yuzuha I've just about had enough
>>585032083It's pretty obvious
>>585032534I’m used to you offering your input without being prompted, so you’ve been given the same courtesy, Pong.
>>585033027>Huh? Where are you guys getting the info on 3-in-1 Sunny and her being armorer? I don't see it on leaks plebbit...Razor (a ZZZ CC) said about a month ago that he had reliable leaks from a Chinese site that the Sunbringers having similar numbers meant that they would be, not only, 3 in 1 but at least one of them will be an Armorer
Sex with Lindverne and Eldreda
Yuzuha should take a shit on my face
More male agents would actually benefit ZZZ financially. Players who primarily pull for men can go several patches without spending, which gives them little incentive to stay invested. A more consistent release schedule would improve retention, broaden the paying audience and offer more team-building options without sacrificing the game's predominantly female roster.
>>585033249You saw how well Silly did
>>585033150sadly I don't have screenshots because I play on PS5 but it was when we were supposed to be taking pictures of Remie.
If sunbringer is a subdps armorer i'll just skip and wait for the true void hunter (storyteller)
can you deconstruct these into w-engine chips?
>>585033173>Well, that makes one of us~
>>585032794>cant even clear endgamethis is such a foreign concept for me in this easy ass game. are you speaking out of experience? is this why you're such a faggot metaslave?
>>585033070Hoyo took all the wrong lessons from players being uninterested in side content- instead of improving the side content like Agent Stories, Trust Events, etc, they just shoved what should have been side content into the main content instead.
The real danger with ZZZ's growing powercreep isn't just older agents falling behind, it's players losing confidence in pulling at all. Shiyu and DA keep raising the bar while newer characters increasingly outperform older investments. Sure, older teams can still clear, but the gap keeps widening. Eventually people stop seeing characters as long-term investments and start treating every banner as another temporary purchase. That might boost short-term revenue, but it risks destroying the goodwill and player retention the game needs to survive.
>>585033213>not only, 3 in 1 but at least one of them will be an ArmorerThis doesn't make any sense, if they're 3-in-1 how can "one of them" be Armorer? They're the one unit, dumbass.
>>585033249Thanks ChadGPT
>>585033360That's only lindverne tho
>>585033249FGO is the only gacha with tons of scantily clad females that can somehow get male units like King Hassan, Gilgamesh and Taigong Wang to sell better than female units (mainly because they are either good supports or just strong DPS units).
>>585033368Yuzu...
Loli characters have always been a staple of anime aesthetics, and there's no reason ZZZ should arbitrarily exclude an entire character archetype. Cute, youthful designs appeal to a different audience than the usual tall, busty waifus, and having both makes the roster more visually diverse. They also offer opportunities for distinct personalities, animations and gameplay styles. Nobody's forcing you to pull for them, and removing them wouldn't improve the game. It would just alienate an established part of its audience for no tangible benefit.
>>585033070>Suddenly Xiao'Zhao opens up to you and tells you her entire back story>World is hell
HahahahhaahahahJufufu wonnered
>>585033457That's the point that I am trying to get at anon, the "leak" that Razor has been spreading is bullshit and everyone is playing telephone with it.
>>585033398yeah bro im sure your m0w0 phoenix and poverty supports because you couldn't afford her strongest team will be clearing endgame once her shilling stops and all content is focused around shilling sunbringeryou are delusional and poor kek
>>585026645A skip buyer pays to avoid playing the game, a scaperoller pays to make their favorite character stronger, sometimes unlocking entirely new mechanics. You can argue it's terrible value for money, but comparing character investment to literally paying to skip content makes no sense.
>>585033563>>585033450
Imagine zenless zone zero without phaeton belle.>male characters are finally your friends instead of husbadoslop>the (you) pandering skyrockets>they can shill yuribaits and threesomebaits at the same time without cockblocks (phaeton belle)>more second assistant belle content in main story, events and hangoutstruly a shame.
>>585022968Three different models don't necessarily mean three playable agents. They could just as easily be alternate forms or story assets. Until we actually see their kits and playable IDs, both sides are basically treating datamined scraps as definitive proof of whatever outcome they want.
Fufu and Norma are the same
>>585033354Unfortunately I don't have many screens of that event.
>>585033515Jap gachas know that the only way for men to sell is to make them hypermeta. Most whales are metatards, doesn't matter the game. Doin't know why chink gachas haven't figured this out yet.
>>585033749Wrong, scapers are literally paying to melt bosses in 60 seconds by holding BA because they cba playing the game
>>585021018Having the original Void Hunters playable isn't inherently a bad thing. The real challenge is making their legendary status believable without completely trivializing the newer generations. Killing them all off just to avoid the old master trope would be a waste of characters the game has been building up since launch.
WISE FUCKS THIS!?!?! ZAMN
>>585033650Spiderfufu...
How does life change if you have a PHOENIX gf??
Relevant https://x.com/i/status/2112231801175613705
>>585024559That's a massive oversimplification. The actual value of a 30% DMG bonus depends on how much DMG% you already have, and PEN only beats elemental damage under certain conditions. You can't just declare one universally better without accounting for the character's existing buffs, build and enemy DEF.
Is it necessary for a scientist to dress like this?
>>585033768>phaeton>husbadno more comments from the Pagnut Gallery please
>>585033768They should have just made both of the siblings equal protagonists, with them regularly switching POVs depending on the story like during the mission where you save Belle from the Hollow.
>>585033978I would never, I don't like Phoenix, I would call her names and hit her and laugh at her if she cried.
>>585022472The bigger problem isn't the number of pulls, it's how quickly the game makes your existing roster feel outdated. F2P players shouldn't need to replace entire teams just to keep up with endgame content. Giving out more pulls would help temporarily, but without keeping powercreep under control, you're just making the treadmill slightly less expensive.
>>585033932"The Fall of Old Eridu" doesn't have to be a playable character to be the most important thing in the entire game.
>>585034138She'd never cry
No one cares for Claret
>>585033980i love big tiddies
>>585033457>Defense/stun>Attack/rupture>AnomalyHybrid armorer that works like 3 classes. It's going to be a weird class
>>585034181F2p players play a demo/trial of the game. The intended experience is at least 30day pass + BP.Why? Because a game can't live from f2p alone.I like the term free to try more than free to play. You can try as long as you want. But if you wanna have a better experience, pay your MMO sub.
Phoenix could not stop you from raping her.
>>585034181The issue isn't actually powercreep, it's anti-shill. Swimming against the current knowing the devs are actively punishing you for playing a character you like just isn't fun even if you can still clear with them.
>>585033871>Doin't know why chink gachas haven't figured this out yet.Because they are Chinks duh, but in seriousness you would think that they would realize all money is good money.
Just had sex with Burnice, I don't think she knew we were even doing it
>>585034284Wtf. Your cat has cancer
>>585034404That was lighter with a wig on.....
>>585022472The worst part is that losing a 50/50 often means getting another standard dupe rather than a meaningful roster upgrade. More pulls would help, but making standard agents and their Mindscapes more competitive would at least make those losses feel like actual progression instead of a consolation prize.
>>585033768can smell the curry from this post
>>585033728>skip ye fungus>have zero issues with endgame>skip remiel>zero issues with endgameI'm gonna be toast now! this time for sure!>poorI see, so you're both shit at the game AND drowning in sunk cost. that's why you're so desperate
>>585033852Why are there so many cute lesbians in Roscaelifer? It's not a bad thing just weird that there are so many of them
>>585034404Anon, that's rape. You RAPED Burnice.
There are actual people here who unironically wouldn't tongue fuck Remielle's poop hole if given the rare chance to do so.
>>585022968Even if all three skins are real, that tells us absolutely nothing about how they'll be implemented. Unique models are needed for story appearances and assists too. People are trying to reverse-engineer an entire playable kit from a handful of asset IDs, then treating their speculation as confirmed information.
>>585034527You don't want dupes to make a void hunter level agent?
>>585033362yes. they're infinite too
>>585021018The original Void Hunters being playable could actually make the newer generation more interesting if their differences are explored properly. Imagine veterans struggling to adapt to modern Hollow combat while younger agents develop techniques their predecessors never considered. There's more storytelling potential in that than simply killing off every legendary character before we get to interact with them.
>>585034332this sounds retarded and unusable in actual gameand unbuildable
when people say "3-in-1" do they meanA) it's 1 agent and the other 2 only show up as part of her kit, as in Eldreda is the 'playable' agent while Lindverne only shows up in chain attacks and Dracaene in defensive assistsB) it's 1 agent but the one you 'play' can be any of the threeor C) it's 3 agents that each fully occupy a team slot and you get all 3 by pulling the 1 S rank
>>585034567I blame Velina.
>>585020156Cissia's biggest problem was probably her reputation as a dedicated Seed support before release. Once people convince themselves a character is worthless without another limited agent, most won't even bother testing alternative teams. Her animations and personality are genuinely good, but first impressions matter a lot in a game where skipping a banner means waiting months for another chance.
Lindverne is unironically wife material
>>585020156I think people underestimate how much a character's perceived value depends on their release timing. Cissia would've probably been received much better if she hadn't arrived in an already overcrowded Electric Attack category. Her kit isn't necessarily bad, but when players already have functioning teams, being merely competitive isn't a particularly convincing reason to spend potentially 160 pulls.
>>585034601Is it rape if Burnice was smiling and laughing like an idiot?
>>585034797Most mean A, some think B
3 in 1 niggers are coping lmao
When's the drip marketing????
Shame on all of you who skipped the snek
>>585022472Skipping banners isn't inherently a problem for F2P players, that's just how gachas work. The problem starts when endgame difficulty keeps escalating to the point where skipping newer units actively punishes you. If older investments remained reasonably competitive, people wouldn't feel nearly as pressured to pull for every new meta character.
>>585034797They mean A, although not sure why are you so specific about being chain and defensive.They would never sell an agent that's 3 different ones for the price of 1.
>>585034830I wish I was that npc
>>585034972its gonna happen bro...>>585035002Sooning
Yuzuha stop stealing my shirts
Yuzuha stop stealing my condoms
>>585023252Agreed. ZZZ has a pretty diverse roster in terms of character designs, but the actual clothing choices are surprisingly repetitive. Wide trousers would work particularly well with the game's exaggerated proportions and animations, especially for characters with a more casual or streetwear-inspired aesthetic. Not every female agent needs to wear shorts, a miniskirt or a leotard.
>>585034754>Anomaly increases crit rate/dmg>High stun value from crit damage>Defense modifies attack/sharpnessNot impossible just weird
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>>585034342What if I like having a worse experience?
Yuzuha taking pictures of my LWC while I sleep and posting them on interknot
>>585034696but it clearly says limited
>>585034846Doesn't help that her character design is completely anti-synergistic with her personality and background, she looks like a circus performer instead of either a street rat or a pubsec officer, it's the peak of 2.X's outfit slop.
>>585035009Not my fault devs wasted her design on a seed slave
>>585035248>>585035248>>585035248>>585035248
>>585035014the only hard content in the game is hard mode DA though, and that shit is completely worthless. obnoxious boss fights and useless currency. I have almost 3k of that stuff and there's nothing worth buying. anything else in the game is basically free to clear.
>>585035185you know what, ill record a video rn as proof i have enough things to max it
>>585035014Endgame rewards aren't worth pulling the gacha for. And if you can't get that into your head, then play endfield, where you can get all rewards without beating specific timers. Well, you may get something cosmetic like an achievement, or some temporary profile "effect", but it's not giving anything tangible you can use for char upgrades, getting new chars or whatever. Just a "medal" for your "medal menu" nobody but yourself can look into.In the end the problem many people have is that they want everything, can't have everything, and then try to find excuses like "I need that for endgame". Even in endfield you see people complain about not having XYZ when it doesn't do ANYTHING at all for their account. They simply don't have the best team, still get every single reward without issues whatsoever and STILL complain.A lot of gacha players are just retarded, and if you see yourself within this mindset, consider quitting them all or at least think a while about what you are playing.
>>585033768FemMCs in gachas are cancer, yes
>>585035116Lucky you. She just keeps poking holes in mine.
