>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Guilds<Daybreak Company> NA Alliance RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj<FUN HAVERS> NA Alliance PvEhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w<Wrench> EU Horde PvEhttps://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB<Clover Club> NA Alliance RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkqbc<Clover Club> NA Alliance PvPhttps://discord.gg/Gchu6vxRYfPrevious thread: >>585071172
how do i find a guild of warcraft gamer dads that are vulnerable to be turned into trannies
>>585088506Once you hit a certain age you become immune
A lot of people meme on the mage tier but imo the only 2 good ones are mage and Druid, Druid being the best and mage being bad, in the sense that all the tier sets are. But better than the others
>>585088504Don't worry pallybro, you'll get buffed later
Reminder game will be balanced due to warcraft log stats, there is no ranked pvp there is no rating at all for pvppeople only care to parse and do well in raids
>>585088579Why harder in raids?
>>585088635how do you give ret competitive pve dps without making it busted in pvp?
>>585088598>palaI can already envision all these unimaginative fucks having that as their second name combined with their "online" name as the first one.Like they do already, only mashed together.
>>585088635retail has separate pvp balance, maybe you should return
>>585088635>B-but muh mini game!
>>585088635How it should be, no?
>>585088738How do you know if I'm complaining as a pvper or someone laughing at people playing this for pvp balance while I parse 99s and 100s on your head?
>>585088635they shouldnt balance around a minigame
they took this from you
>>5850887052-3 tanks in a raid and usually only 1 or 2 of those is warrior, and that spot is almost always taken already
>euro hours>suddenly the phrase minigame starts popping upI'm noticing..
>>585088821we're getting SD belf models though also how is a belf using alliance armor?
>>585088821Looks like complete shit. Good riddance
>>585088858Doesn't it mean I shouldn't really pick warrior...
>>585088821forever mad
>>585088882morphing
Found you
>>585088735Don't mind me bother, I'll just be over here doing my thing.
>no more racial changes because of minmaxers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po7q0OJS9RQ
>>585088991he says if you want them changed you need to complain now because they wont change at all after release
>>585078913Personally I'm of the opinion that it was a death by a thousand cuts. There wasn't an explicit mistake that ruined the game, bu there were enough failure points occurring for people to get tired and quit. SoD was just the team seeing how far they could push the bounds of classic+, and there were a lot of really awkward changes and moments that I can remember getting burned by. I think its a bit of a personal question because different people were bothered by different thingsThe raid tiers went from 10 players -> 20 players -> 40 players, which caused failure points where guilds would collapse if they couldn't find more members or merge with another group. My guild was already struggling to get people together for a full raid during phase 2, and we all knew phase 3 was probably gonna kill the guild. On a personal level, I was getting really tired of all the gold sinks. I recall having to dump a ton of gold into a new quest during phase 2 for a BiS armor piece, which felt really awful. I never cared for professions/the auction house/gold farming so I was always broke. I was already paying for consumes and that quest basically bled me dryPvP was also the source of several BiS items during the first two phases. On its own thats fine, but PvP's balancing suffered from all of SoD's new items and abilities. It all felt a bit like an afterthought. I personally can't stand PvP so it was a real slog to farm everything. I understand thats just part of classic thoughI quit at the start of phase 3 after I missed out on this massive leveling (and I think gold?) oversight. Blizz didn't tune a new world event properly so anyone who played it could rocket through levels 40-50. The event then got nerfed, and anyone who missed out was shit out of luck. 40-50 is a lot of time spent leveling and it sucked to see that a subsection of the community got a fast pass out of it
>>585088635The problem is pvp isn't balanced by giving classes more damage or some shit. People talk about class homogenization but them actively not giving every class every tool is antithetical to that. I played WoW at its most balanced in PVP which was MoP, every class without exception had>an interrupt/silence>a stun at around the same CD>either a gap closer or something that brought enemies to you>an "oh shit" button that does damage mitigation>some way of building a secondary resource and then cashing it out for more dmg or healing>SOMETHING that you summon in some fashionThey all effectively played the same. That is not Forever
>>585088939>try to hide from the gay>it literally cums through the wall
>>585088821why what happened
>>585089051>The raid tiers went from 10 players -> 20 players -> 40 playersThis begs the question - Why don't we ever see 30 man raids?
>>585089051I didnt last long in SoD (only played phase 1) but for me it was the runesI think it was an interesting idea in theory but in reality there were several runes which were absolutely mandatory so rather than "exploring" to try and find them you pretty much had no choice but to look up a guide telling you exactly how to get each rune because some of them were so critical you couldnt afford to waste time not getting themAlso for me personally, I was interested in the concept of mage healing but it (at least in phase 1) felt like pure ass
>>585088998me on the leftthanks to grt
>>585088919Historically warrior has been the best DPS too and it will probably remain one of the better ones in forever tooI personally am planning to go warrior, prot heavy. You will always get a dungeon group if youre willing to tank so getting that early 60s blue gear is very easy for you. Then you can move to raiding as either tank or DPS, I'll probably be tired of the whole game at that point though
is we getting 'mog for succi's?
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585089305Bros..he won´t run anymore...
>>585088998Reminder that gnome is probably older than his grandma.Also why would gnomes move to SW? You can live in IF, hop on the tram in the morning to work your shift at the SW dwarven district, then go back home on the train at the end of the day
>>585089305>HOMOSEXUALS RUN THIS GENERAALYes. We know. Nobody cares, it's 2026.
>>585088785>how can you tell what I'm writingidk I guess I'm literate
>>585089368not really because you were wrong
>>585089463mmmmmmmmmmmm ok
>>585089305why did alex say he prefers playing with his black dildos because they're more masculine?
>Ret trees so shit they are going holy>Prot trees so shit they are going holy>Holy trees so shit for healing they are going shaman/druidLegitimately funny
Was there really a whole thread of some loser shitting on a guy because he didn't know how AP and Str worked in relation to ranged AP?>heh I know some minutia in the videogame, time to shit on you for 500 replies hehDisgraceful.
>>585089557alot of retards in these generals, some people also think haste doesnt reduce gcd in forever
>>585089557I think its more that he was just a retard that kept doubling down despite being wrong so he just kept having people tell him he was retarded.
>>585089557no, it's fine not to know. the problem was that he confidently and abrasively quadrupled down and called everyone who disagreed with him retards and tourists
>>585089557He was trolling and you all fell for it, obviously!
>>585089557That's not minutia you retard, that's a core aspect of the stat system that is self evident if you have a 3rd grade reading level
So how do I convince a guild to let me tank for them?
>>585088504calm down, shenna
>>585089756be one of the first geared tanks at 60
>>585089756Send the GL dickpics and don't stop.
>>585089756show me you are competentt.switching to dps once i find a good tank to replace me
>>585089756assert dominance. if you are asking this question, you are not tank material
>>585089603Nta but even if it did, it doesn't help me if haste doesn't also increase energy regen for my rogue
>>585089756you be a likeable friendly guy that people enjoy doing dungeons with and you prove your competence. you also basically have to find a guild that's in the middle of forming
>>585089756Make your own guild.
>>585089974hunter weapon
>wake up>no beta invite
>>585089974>that equipthat's exploitable right?
>>585090120Beta is over in like 2 days son
>>585090120The beta is fucking over bro
>>585089268>succubi in summer dressoh lord have mercy where is the slop man i need him here STAT
Top post on the Classic WoW subreddit is a video exposing the streamer tournament as a way to push an illegal paid leveling add-on that's against Blizzard's terms of serviceThe Reddit mods have already locked the thread because they said people are being mean to certain people(scumbags) and instead of removing the posts they lock the thread to silence all dissent and to try and kill the thread as quickly as possible without having to delete it What a pathetic bunch of losers all these subhumans are lolBonus points the video makes Esfand look like the biggest most retarded loser in the entire community
>>585090293You need to go back
>>585090293You need to stay
>>585090293BEBETTERHUMANS
>>585090293Anyone who would watch the tournament would know that rested xp is THE leveling addon for wow and the majority of them know how to pirate it if they wanted it.
>>585090293Already covered this. Not illegal. Loophole yes but technically allowed.
>>585090293its not a paid mod retard
>>585090418
>>585090293>illegal add-on>THE HECKIN TERMS OF SERVICERINOS!!!who cares? you sweeping for blizzard for free?
Blizzard should just ban every paid addon>B-But technically it's n-I don't care>B-But streamers sell their conf-Ban them too
>>585090418>FOR THE FORSAKENThat HR npc was on point after all
>>585090450>>585090487It is a paid add-on and even China is cracking down on this, you lost the high ground to fucking China LOL
>>585090582based
>>585088635It will be balanced around whatever daddy aggrend hears his favorite stream complain about, sorry journey troon, this isn't your game <3try retoilet instead ;)
>>585088705It's not. If you tell the raid you like to tank, almost everyone will be willing to let you do it.
>>585090418btw oldclassic wow modteam got 100%replaced months ago, then they added 6 random new mods from applications admins asked forthen out of those 6 like over half the team got kicked by the current leaders of the sub
>>585090779Unless you suck*
You DO have prepared what-should-I-do-next notes with specific things to check and do, correct?
>>585088998I look like this.
>>585090908working on it
>>585090615the addon is free, its on curseforgethe leveling guide costs money and thats nothing new, we have had paid leveling guides since vanilla
>>585090908RestedXP takes care of that for me.
>>585090908>Tame Moonstalker SireYJK
>>585090908I'm just gonna wing it like every single time I've played this game
how do you even ban an addon? it's open source and loads content. you can rename it niggerXP and now it's not banned
>>585090293Said paid addon is actually approved by Holy and Sacred Aggrend and the divine Council Of Classic Plus as the prefered leveling guide and approved journey.Anyone who does NOT follow the divine addon is to be considered a nazi exploiter trying to ruin the divine journey, dungeon niggers where hung from the rafters at the sound of holy prayers to Aggrend the ret god, you rats better know better than to not follow the divine addon.
I'm not inviting a single warrior/paladin to my dungeon groups.
>>585091052Anyone got a link to the cracked RestedXP ?
>>585091052You can restrict a lot of the access it has. For a leveling add on which is essentially just a notepad it would be impossible. Maybe they could remove the arrows that just point you where to go. But that would just make it more abrasive. Im down for banning all add-ons but I've given up that dream ages ago.
>>585090908I don't even know what to roll.>fem dwarf shaman>fem nelf hunter>fem nelf warrior>fem human paladin
>>585091102Same.>t. Feral Druid
>>585091102are you a druid tank orrrr
>>585089603It doesn't. Go back to retail dude.
>>585091184uh oh he's here!never played retail btw
>>585091148
LOGIN INTO DUROTARPLAYING MY TOTEM SHAMAN MON
>>585091148I won't spoonfeed you because you seem like the type of guy that's never OWNED molten CORE before.
>>585091181Warrior tank
>>585091078Every adult male knew this was the end game from the attosecond they gutted dungeon spam (not the approved way to play), meme healer enh (not the approved way to play) and many other things.WoW Fagever isn't "your home" it's Aggrend's toilet and he is going to take a shit bigger than SoD phase 3 and 4.
>>585091241oh, well that's expected. don't invite hunters or rogues either
>>585091052At the very least you can announce it's banned, then have someone on twitch scanning for anyone using it.
>>585091160They need to remove the info for quest accept, complete, what quests have you completed, quest progress info, bag info, but that will break normaloid addons like bag addons, ATT, questie, etc and cause nuclear meltdowns
>questing is the best way to level >this is apparently a bad thing Are you guys intentionally being stupid or is it unintentional?
I used restedxp once and yeah, it was fast, but I had zero control over my character. constantly setting my hearth to random places and shit miserable golem experience
>>585091391thats what happened with imorph, but noone has been banned for it, still use it daily
>>585091427you can do whatever you want and then return to the guide
>>585091427I mean yeah, you become a flesh bot
>>585090293It's so disgusting. The guys running these paid addons are jannies on reddit and they shut it down whenever anyone mentions it. I was banned for comparing rxp and gold buying in a hypothetical where I wasn't flaming anyone at all. The janny showed up and banned me for "promoting gold buying". These guys are in on it 100%. It's what I would do if I was selling these addons. Get control of the narrative.
>be me>running 101 fever>dont want to call out of work today so I can call out after Forever actually releasesShoot me bros
>The issue is that the developer is overtly micro managing how players are meant to play and neutering anything "not approved" >This will leak to all aspects of the game >It does, in fact, leak to class design and balance>Shill (Indo-judean): I don't understand the issue teeheeee~ xPLefty cuck shill moment, KekyPOW!
>>585091508stay strong brother
>>585091475Yeah at the end of the day blizzard doesn't enforce these things, but if they ever decided to do it they absolutely could.
Leveling guides arent for you autistsIts for men with real jobs that cant sit there for 12 hours a day leveling slowly, $60 is nothing for someone with a job and it allows us with less free time to keep up with the rest and get to the endgame that actually matters
>>585091481I know, I know.. ugh!!! I'm just not gonna use the guide is allHAHAHAHA
How does he get away with just outright lying over and over?
>>585091231>>585091239I found it on "elitepvpers" is that the latest version?
>>585091404Yeah they could restrict the api to do that stuff, but at the end of the day it could all be handled manually.Just have a little window where you click if you complete a step then it goes to the next one. And if you wanted that gone it would just be more abrasive since you could just do the same thing on a website on your second monitor.
>>585091596>Im a retard HAHAA!
>>585091604he thought people would see the lower resolution textures and change their mindhe was wrong
>>585091626It tells you which version it is, now compare it to the official one you mong.
>>585091698
>>585091673keep seethingI will be 60 before the first raid and it will be exclusively by my handcan't say the same about you mr jew golem
troll or orc warlock?
>>585091604
When did you realize we're playing the budget version of WoW?
>>585091775orc
I-I want to tank but I'm scared!!
WE NEED ELF SHAMANS ON ALLIANCE ASAPHELLO BLIZZARD????
>>585091775Orc looks better in warlock gear. Only go troll if you want to stand out
>>585091760>bragging about reaching lvl60 in a monthyou will be in greens, you wont be in a raid for another month, permanently behind everyone with a brain
>>585091421In 2019 if you dungeon spammed you had an entire couple of days where you could exploit every major resource in the game. The gold I made during that time made it so I never had to worry about gold ever again during all of classic. That's the real reason people will not shut up about this. Everybody wants to get ahead and dungeon spam was the way to do that on every private server. Another factor are Iranians/Russians/Indians that want to be able to dungeon boost during off times. For these people being able to sell gold is their livelihood, they and their families depend on RMT. They will never stop qwetching as long as they don't have an easy way to exploit the game.
>>585091836you could have tanked deadmines a few times in the beta..
>>585088504most reasonable tranny
>>585091604This was 100% intended to be in forever btw.
>>585091775Gnome.
do i level priest first, theres no way i get ahead of the pack and feel like i'll be stuck in the middle of questers contesting the entire time, especially now dungies are dead
>>585091878I'm a neet nigger you think I'll be behind anyone but the most dedicated of poopsockers? this aint my first rodeo. try again
>>585091906What resources did you exploit?
>>585091961Priests are not slow levelers. Class choice doesn't matter as much as what you're actually doing.
>>585091952yeah you can tell its their attempt at SD textures, but they cant help themselves and overdesign it, let alone the fucking pixar ass eyes
>>585091906>Everybody wants to get ahead and dungeon spam was the way to do that on every private serverOnce you're ahead of the pack from noliving you outlevel dungeon groups with Joanna's guide.
What if I play the stress tomorrow and I find out that my computer can't run the game and you all leave me behind and I have to go erp with /wpsg/ trannies because at least worlo runs at 60fps..
>>585091836There's absolutely nothing worse than pussy tanks. Put on a dress and stay in your lane.
>>585091914I only started playing worrer at the end of the beta and also it's a huge hurdle to do it the first time. Healing took me courage as well but tanking will be a whole nother dimension because I have to be the one calling the shots
>>585091961Priests kill surprisingly fast
>>585091906Lmao dude I didn't spam a single dungeon, got top 10 ragnaros and farmed 200 black lotus in the first month.Dungeons had nothing to do with it.
>>585090293>blizzard sponsors a tournament advertising a paid addon>dev uses the paid addon and is friends with or at least attempts to orbit the people shilling it>dev nerfs dungeons and tells everyone to quest which the addon routes for you>blizzjeets honestly can't see any conflict of interest here
>>585092058Upgrade your PC.
>>585091906Larp, our guild was the first 60's on the server and the solo questers outpaced the dungeon spammers.
>>585092097it honestly should be brought up to the microsoft indian, it is conflict of interest
>>585091698It seems to be taken down, there's some drama in the comments, the uploader is accusing the firm of taking down his links or some shit.https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/wow-guides-templates/5380549-restedxp-guide-vault.html
>>585092078the healer and tank can be equally responsible for calling the shots, in fact healer can and often does call the higher level onesit's not that scary, just say you're new to tanking at the beginning and they'll understand
>>585092190not the right one
>>585092118if I did, by the time I did, you'd all be level 60 and I'll be eternally behind the pack. no, i'm afraid the stress test is a do or die moment. if it runs 50+ fps, i play, if it doesn't, the thread of fate is severed and i play with trannies and persist in the doomed world i have created
>>585092004yeah you are right, you are not part of the tryhards, the sweats, the best of the best, you are part of the shitters, the scrubs, the massesno one gives a flying shit what you think, there are millions of people like you with nothing of value in their brains
>>585092331holy melty
>>585092310The number of players in a zone drops the fps more than anything. Starting areas wont be a good test.
>>585092359you got destroyed little kiddo
>>585092248Is it this ? Which version do I download for forever? 1.1?https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/wow-guides-templates/4792923-zygor-classic-retail-other-addons-updated.html
>>585092538yes, the one thats called RXP, the others are zygor
>>585092435all of this clitty leakage because I said I'm not gonna use the golem addon btw
Only trolls get combat regen from spirit? Does spirit do nothing while in combat for other races? For health that is.
>>585092367number of players in a zone has always done that, so that won't matter to me. i'll definitely get to a spot with less people and wait out all the initial moments of the server shitting its pants. i want to know what the lighting and fog is going to do, because particle density and these superficial effects have always been what fucks my toaster.
>>585092571Cheers.
>>585092647My GPU died and I've been using my old 1060 in the meantime and it runs fine at 3/10 graphics
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where eu alliance pve guild...
>>585091954disgusting
>>585092703thanks for the info anon hard to find anyone with shit hardware in the current spaceyear to get some idea. my computer has an internal gpu, that's the kind of cursed life i'm living, i'm just hoping for projected textures and 50fps on 1.
>>585092218So I need to find myself a femdom healer who reigns me in got itNah thanks I'll just say it so they know what to expect
I don't think I've seen horde win a single bg all beta
>>585092779meant integrated gpu
What class do I pick if I don't want to heal but still want to get invited to groups?
>>585092580>why are people laughing at me, all I did was act like a retard?
>>585092078the trick is, you just yolo it and if it fucks up you just blame lag or wife aggro
>>585090973>he thinks leveling process is something to rush through
>>585092957just you lil gup, just you
>>585092948class that can tankif you want pure dps then mage, everyone wants them in dungeons because of polymorph is the king of CC
>>585092948the class where you make friends and play with them
IMAGINE USING A GUIDE LMAO
>>585092948Mage and give people waterWarlock and give people portalsThat's it
>>585093025>no uare you trying to become a lolcow?
whats the deal with these new throwable teleporters, do they just no longer have chance to malfunction or something else?
>>585093163Anon, look at the right. It doesn't require engineering to use
When is the stress test?
>>585093163one can be sold to randoms, the other is safe and engineer only
>>585093163No engi requirements
>>585093126>local lolcow doesn't use the giant arrow for toddlers addonthrilling story, stay tuned
did they nerf dung exp even further?
>>585093202regional serverslaunch clientset up everything for launch
>>585093163Its for people without engineering
>>585093237>all the best players in the world are actually bad at the game because they use the optimal way of leveling>me playing like shit actually makes me good at the game
>>585093163Never used these, what do they do if they malfunction?
Been playing a bunch of plane game, when does the beta end?
>>585093379I think they teleport you to a random location. There might be even special locations that are only accessible via a malfunction!
>>585093349oh yeah I said that, I didn't simply say I'm not gonna use the golem addon that takes away your autonomyanything else genius?
>>585093076now imagine paying for that guide
>>585093025remember when you posted a tobey mcguire reaction image a day after he officiated his jewish ex-wife to a nigger lol, gup niggermaybe stay on /v/ in the shill nigger wow forever thread where you belong
>>585093431and I said it doesnt do that unless you yourself are a golem who cant do anything but follow a guide if such thing is on his screen
>>585093465lil gups crashing out again :skull:
>>585093465oh no no no, tobey did what
How do I enjoy this game as a castersissy? I just want to collect big weapons and go big oomph with them
>>585093512oh okay great. sooo I'm just not gonna use the addon xP and I'm still going to parse and you're still going to seethe
>>585093272>>585093219>>585093218>>585093197cheers lads, too cooked to read properly in the morning>>585093379malfunction once sent me 100 feet in the air and i only survived by parachute cloak, so not hardcore friendly, can also be inside cave with 55+ elites
>>585093543HE OFFICIATED THE WEDDING OF HIS JEWISH EX-WIFE TO A NIGGER, WHILE DOING SPIDERMAN POSES LOL TOM HOLLAND REALLY RUBBED OFF ON HIM
>>585093604You play arcane mage imo
>>585091604He's not lying. They just haven't found the tine to prompt "Grok, make an SD model for this mount" yet
>>585093604>I just want to collect big weapons and go big oomph with themI've got a big weapon that'll make you go big oomph right here!
>>585091954I used to hate Gnomes in everything. Recently I've thawed up something fierce.It's still really unfortunate that the Gnomes, when introduced as "Kin to the Dwarves" in W2, weren't retconned as another Dwarf clan after W3 so we could have had a perfect synthesis of the two.Ingame Gnome models are just kinda bad. Having them be Dwarf sized, and in return allowing Dwarf silhouettes to not be as furiously blocky as they are, and something closer to the artwork, would have done tremendous things for the popularity of both of them, plus the Lore would have become so much more authentic.>"But Anon, what would have been the 4th Alliance race in WoW?!"Satyrs. Retcon Daughters of the Forest/Dryad units in W3 to have been a variant of Satyr which opens the door for the rest of them, or asspull a repentant Satyr coven.>"But Anon, that would upset the Symmetry in the game if two Alliance races were on Kalimdor while only one Horde Race is on Lordaeron!"Doesn't matter because fuck the Horde, also the Forsaken have almost the entirety of the Northern EK while the Nelves hang out on an island in a tree offshore and once they move into Ashenvale, their native soil, they already immediately get gangraped by Hordejeets in what's supposed to be "their" home. Tirisfal Glades, Silverpine and almost all of Hillsbrad Foothills are a cakewalk compared to that.>"But Anon, it's going to break up the silhouettes!"Blizzard has proven that identifying by silhouette doesn't matter to them when they introduced Belves to the Horde and Draenei to the Alliance. Vanilla would have stomached Satyrs easily.>"But Anon, if the Alliance has a monster option but the Horde doesn't ahve a pretty option, it's going to throw the faction balance into chaos!"Total Orc Death
>>585093643>Im not going to do what every good player does but Im still going to beat them all HAHAHA
>a horde pally always loses to a human pally because of racialscool!
>>585093806yeah nah
>>585091604Hundreds of shills.pay attention.
>>585093775I look like this.BUT! But - and hear me out: I talk like this too.Crazy, huh?
>>585093838yuh huh
>>585093202The stress test was already when Asmon did Weavil
a female human priest gave me fortitude. should i ask her out?
>>585093954Just say "y-you too..."
>>585093954that was me sorry im a bloke
>>585093604not talking like an adolescent teenager with cerebral palsy would be a good start. otherwise a frost mage to level
>>585093775I actually will tho, i totally will, I totes, totes will, trust me please I won't quit in 3 days and stuff I promise I super duper swear forever
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>>585094103Still no buffs to ele shaman?
RESTO SHAMAN STATUS?????????????????????????????????????????
>>585089051Are you literally me this is exactly why and when I quit SoD as well. Except I like pvp, but as shaman I was so broken I felt disgusted soloing teamfights by myself
>>585094156Shouldn't have casted Bus Shock all those years ago.
>>585094156never mind the retard had gear on
>>585094172Still good, still boring
>>585094156They nerfed the meatball by 30%.Now you don't "have" to get it. There you go.>>585089051>Personally I'm of the opinion that it was a death by a thousand cutsHonestly I can't see anyone in good faith arguing for anything else. It was just such a storm of shit after shit. You had some incredibly cool things but often they also where buggy as shit.
>>585094172It's the best spec for Ele Shamans in raid :)
>>585094147>only rule is you must have fun or elseI'd join but I wouldn't be having fun on alliance.
>>585089216Raid sizes a pretty random in general.>Dungeons5 players, 1 healer, 1 tank, rest DPS>Raids10 players 1-2 tanks, 2-3 healers.20 players 2 tanks, sometimes 3, sometimes 1, 3-5 healers, rest dps25 players, same distribution as 20 players40 players same distribution as 20 man, except sometimes 8 tanks once as a bit, also healers range from 5 to 10 depending on encounter and cheese level, etc...Eventually raids "settled" into 10+ except tanks are static and healers scale up but so does the encounter with very weird funky math but clearly intended to be done by 25-ish players.
>>585094337>You had some incredibly cool things but often they also where buggy as shit.Just like private servers, but you pay for the privilege with Blizzard.
>>585093775that's me, yesare you some kind of pedophile? get away from me
>>585094482i hope you have fun regardless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>585094556SoD was a private server where you paid to have "moar content" faster, that is a fair descriptor desu.Bronzebeard before bronzebeard. Or around the same time, idk when BBC+ actually came out.
whats the new apple quest exploit i need to know
they looked at the wotlk ele shaman and thought: lets make a worse version for forever
>>585094752think it's already patched
>>585094752You can't replicate it, it only works on Mac
>>585094752the kill mobs for xp exploit
ERA is thriving
>>585094752it's on step 52 in the new leveling guide
>>585094752sell 5 apples for xp repeatable quest to an npc, 5 hours of non-stop apple selling gets you level 60, that doesn't account for time you need to go and buy those apples from another npc, they're dirt cheap though, and it was patched
>>585094752You use the apple bobbing tubs in inns and such and it gives you an item that you use when you're out of combat and it heals you AND replenishes your mana if you're a caster, and it's doable by every class.
>>585094832Dat would be retoilet :3Caca smelly pooy retoilet! it's soul now! Soul soul soul! Poopy smelly retoilet wants to kill our soul.
>>585094835>>585094961thats why i axed for the new one
>>585094832just wait for the "class changes 1" patch in 6 to 12 months where they fix (read over buff) shaman and add shaman tank spec.
>>585094147>pve
tbc kinda owns this garbage
>>585095205>flyingNah.
when does the stress test end on Wednesday?
>>585095082see>>585095057
>>585095242grend fat lol
>>585094832Yea no thunderstorm, hex, or caster totems. I'm an ele main ans cant think of a single reason to play it over enh or resto.
>>585095205TBCuck delusional as usual lmao.Eating actual shit "mogs" TBCuck lil gup.
>>585095249those wont be in release
>>585095242no mention
>>585093765I disagree. Without Gnomes and Tauren WoW feels like a generic slop MMO. Gnomes remove the blandness of the game with their quirkiness.
What happens if I make a female human or gnome priest and make a macro that buffs and kisses others?
>>585093765>I hate iconic race>instead PLEASE GIVE ME SOOOOMEEEE POOORNOOOOO!!! SISSY NEEDS HER PORNOOOO!!! PLEASE PLEASE PORN HORNY GOON PORNO!!! OINK!!! PIGGY RETCON FOR ME PLEASE GIVE ME HOT PORNOOOOOS!!! SISSY PORN FREAK WANTS PORNOOOO!!!Literally blow your brains out, porn addicted subhuman.
>>585095520Foundational* race
>>585095542i don't know if i ever wiped to something in hyjal except archimondepeople love standing in fire though so archimonde wipes happen
>>585095542>wiping in TBCwrong thread
Where is this list posted? It shows the paladin nerf. (supposedly adjusted to lvl 60 gear)
>>585095829you never thought to google wow forever sims
>>585095829beta balance doesnt matter
>>585095829>hunter (weave)Jfc never playing that trash class for sure
>>585095829mythicsim.comwowsims is up now though so that's probably better to use
>>585095939its actually fucked all 3 hunter specs gain 100-300dps adding in the weave
>>585095242There's only a vague "few hours" that they said. Assuming the servers can handle it, you can probably play for like an hour
>>585095829rogues will top the DPS chartbros...
>>585096073rogues are #1 if they weave
>>585095829Shamans looking good
>>585095829I don't trust these numbers, they have kept changing constantly even with no patches which tells me they keep finding issues in their vibe coded simulation
>>585095829>in every beta for every new version/xpac of wow the damage between the specs is always the last thing they tune>people for some reason thinking any of these beta numbers will be remotely the same on launch
>>585095829>49%
>>585088939i literally look like this irl
I'm still patiently waiting for people to realise that WoW F is just retail 2.0
>>585096296>retail 2.0Nah senpai. We're staying in Azeroth.
>>585096296I thought the cool guys call it retail minus
>>585096019that's it for the stress test?fatgrend man
>>585096296yeah we know its retail reboot, but we can enjoy it before it becomes too retaily and they have to release new fresh
>>585096296>wow 2 is a bad thing
When is Forever getting mentioned in Hearthstone?
>>585096508when theres hearthstone forever, because its a different timeline
>>585096505this time we're getting tranny meme races right from the start. looking good.
>>585095956Thanks kun.
>>585091238STANDARD DEFINITION MODELS SO THE FRAMES ARE JAMMIN
>>585096156because they are being updated as people find new things out of testing in the beta
>>585096442Well yeah, they only need to test that their regional servers work under heavy load and find any weird bugs that might show up. These will be the servers running the actual game so it's not the same hardware as the beta
How are people even simulating lvl 60? Do we even know what type of gear there will be? I thought beta stopped at 30.
>>585096296It is, unironically. Slow leveling, walking to dungeons and braindead classes/bosses are not what define classic. On mega realms, every player will be as isolated and anonymous as on retail.
i dont want to go EU its cringe and gay and retarded
>>585096582and everyone hates them
>>585096751they just sim whatever shit is datamined lmao
>>585096751simming with old gear and gear from vendors and crafted recipies that are in game right now, its not hard to see damage, we know the spells and coefficients and rotations
>>585096751rep and pvp vendors show lvl60 gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN8Xrw98hRY
>>585096751Are you retarded?>we know all the spells/rotations>we know all the coefficients >we know all the base spell damage>we know all the talentsThat's all you need to sim. You can set every class at an equal level of stats based on their needs and see who comes out on top. Gear is irrelevant when comparing base class power.
>the only thing carrying forever is "world of warcraft" in its name
>>585096019>one hour in three hour login queue simulator i can't wait
>>585096867You should play on the asia server, they can do GDKP
>>585097142im going to do gdkp on NA anyway im in the clique
Any EU Boomer Horde guild?
>>585096734so the beta opt in was just a lie then?
>>585096867We can just pick our server region now?
>>585097281yes
>>585097281yeah they didnt think that many people would want to play the beta, so free invites never went out because servers were packed and factions just locked
>>585097295it's certainly only for the stress test, because it requires no sub. for a subscription you still need second sub if you've got one going for another region.
Things I will be doing>rush to 60>gank lowbies still leveling>hard reserve items>get whatever legendary they release first in my guild>quit the game by april 2027
Things I will be doing>have fun
>>585097549Based>>585097649Impossible.
>>585097649N O T A L L O W E D
Is arms still the best leveling spec?
>>585097718never was, prot is best now
>>585097539the release is still separated by region, you still pick EU NA or Asia, its 1 megaserver per region, even the names are separated by region
>>585097649FUN HAVERS UNITE
>>585097760Oh nice, I was planning on tanking anyways. What make prot good for leveling?
why does retail dungeons look so much cooler than what we got?
>>585097718coping browns who can't let go will tell you it's comparable to prot, but it simply isn't. prot is comfort and safety, arms is highly awareness dependent- it's doable but the question is why
>>585090908>taming a moonstalker with worse attack speed than the runtsngmi>wasting 40s silver on a bow when you get a decent one from zerging 20 harvest watchers in a groupNGMI>wasting 66s on buying another bow when raptors end is right around the corner at 25what the fuck are you even doing at this point
>>585097878vanilla wow was made before "environmental artist" was a job title so all the environments suck
>>585097864you can do damage now and you've got healing victory rush, in addition to being a tank that shrugs off damage. that's basically it
>>585097864You can aoe without dying
https://files.catbox.moe/4hc68i.mp3
when are they adding belves
>>585096156different people are making up new gear that doesn't exist in the game to get the results they want to see
When are they adding the anime race that are female only with big tits?
Where is the Forever Gearing Chart?
>>585098321thats not whats happening at all
>>585097878that looks way too modern and mechanical for world of warcraft
>>585098383You have no idea what the grifters are doing for clicks, but you have fallen for it.
>>585098364You know this sucked in retail but at the same time it was a dopamine hit upgrading your shit
>>585098364is there anything worse than boomers and their spreadsheets?
forever has the chance to bring arthas back and make him the leader of the alliance
Personal loot should be consideredHonestly, personal loot in dungeons and raids would solve a ridiculous amount of the community's loot drama. Everyone gets their own chance at drops, nobody can reserve items, raid leaders can't manipulate loot rules in their favour, and you're not left relying on the goodwill of strangers to get a fair shot at gear. It puts everyone on equal footing, regardless of whether you're a guild veteran, a pug, or sitting on a mountain of gold. And I think we need to get past this idea that a feature should be dismissed simply because it exists in retail. The question should be whether it benefits Forever and aligns with the core pillars the devs have laid out, not whether it originated in another version of WoW. Personal loot doesn't undermine the social aspect of the game, the open world or the levelling experience.
>>585098447you can see everything about how they got these numbers, its not my fault you cant do math to verify them
>>585098524lol yeah you have no clue about the client database
>>585098510it was considered and the autismos won, you can't has personal loot
>>585098339but they're never going to add me >.<
>>585098510just be a better human
>>585098587its ok to be wrong you know, its not something to be ashamed and get defensive over
>>585098510we should have personal dungeons with ai party members and personal bgs against bots and personal auction house with generated listings too!
>>585098510>And I think we need to get past this idea that a feature should be dismissed simply because it exists in retail(You)r class exist in retail, it should probably be removed.
>>585093379they just put a debuff on you for example turn you into a kobold or put a massive damage dot on you or just harmless flavour stuff like being replace by a "clone"
>>585098495Spreadsheets gave you WoWYou're playing a Spreadsheet game
>>585098510>>585098701kek
>>585098506Arthas will be leading the Blorcs
>>585096442You use it to setup gfx settings for your PC and addons. How long do you need?
>>585098787i've never installed excel or worked a day in my life, and i never will.
>>585098787This. The very first video games dating back to the 1700's were spreadsheets.
>>585098510>he doesnt know about guilds forcing people to trade their personal loot to another guy>he doesnt know about class stacking with personal loot to gear out the main raidits way more toxic than normal loot drama
>>585098672bud you are the one that doesn't know that they can't read the database so the grifters are making up items and posting them for clicks and retards like you think its real
>>585098913just disable trading the loot thentry thinking for once in your life
Jainas womb
>>585098881>actually actually spreadsheets are the mark of a habitually broken wageslave, and there's a difference between data collated on the backend to produce the vidya you see and unironically sitting down to make a spreadsheet.
>>585098972my forever home
>>585098916you can see the gear used on the ranking sims, you can run it yourself, you can walk up to the vendors in game right now and see the gear used,the funny thing is these sims on this site are actually under reporting the damage classes are doing right now on the non vibecoded sims, but the ranking is roughly the same
>>585098510>okay guys they added personal loot>now we're requiring eveyone raid 3x per week>you must make these 2 meta class alts>if an item drops for your alt you're required to trade it to the matching mains in your run>make sure you have extra reroll coins becuase on specific bosses we will have everyone reroll until we get the drops that we wantSo much fun
>>585098913>>585099063it wouldn't be called personal loot if you can trade it
>>585098953>try thinking for once in your life
>>585098953>run raid for 8 weeks>oh look jimmy got the item I wanted again and I haven't seen it yet>he can't trade it to me so it just gets disenchanted>thanks blizzard...
>>585099057>you can see the gearYes you can see the gear they have made up, not the gear that actually exists in the game because they cannot read the database, they couldn't even figure out what the Wailing Caverns gear stats were until it dropped
Can someone use AI to make an addon that automatically blocks anyone with restedxp installed?
>>585099201every piece of gear is either from original classic to use as a baseline or actually in the game right now and is 100% verifiable, there is 0 made up gear on those sims
someone tell aggrend to copy pochie
>Can someone use AI to make an addon that automatically blocks anyone with restedxp installed?
>>585099201>muh gearThis is cope. If all the classes using equal levels of stats shake out like that, what makes you think gear will matter? They're not put 100% extra stats on items and class locking them to elemental shaman.
can AI make an addon that blocks anyone who doesn't goon to futa on male
Can someone use AI to make an addon that automatically changes "bro" "dude" and "man" to "love" "cutie" and "good girl" in whispers?
>Claude make me an addon that auto declines hunter's requests to join my party>Also auto ignore them if they whisper to join my group.
>>585099173what other people get isn't a concern, plus you could just prevent unique items from dropping twice
>>585098510>i want the game to be a singleplayer experience where everyone just exists as a tool for me to get gear
>personal loot for everyone>can't trade the items>every time you kill a boss the chance of every item dropping from that boss is increased>when an item drops it resets that items drop chance>no need to ban gdkp>no need to deal with tickets about people stealing loot>no retarded setups where you got 1 main character and 19 alts and run 20 raids a weekWhy not do this?
>>585099392>what's up good girlyep
>>585099435What other people get is a concern. In retail it tends to be that only 2 people per boss get selected to get a drop from that boss, and you are capped on the number of bosses you get a roll on.With the old system I can get an item off every single boss.
>>585099340just accept that the sims are guesswork and move on, dood
>>585099131thats exactly what happens on retail with its personal loot, you should try it out, you would fit right in
rest in peace nate higger
>>585099576There's zero guesswork in the sims that would swing the outcomes so dramatically that the meta would be different than what they're outputting.
>>585099238just block everyone above your level
>>585099564in a personal loot system it isn't a concern and retail doesn't have the system we're discussing
>>585099576educated guesswork, but you wouldnt know anything about the first part
I found a name I really want to reserve but I have no interest in playing a skelf
>>585099307So there's a Forsaken Studies Professor in Stormwind teaching nelves and gnomes how to eat undead corpses for hp?
>>585099592>but muh retailNobody cares about how retail does shit
Human warrior + gnome mage/warlock or gnome warrior + human mage/warlock?Engineering racial got removed didn't it?
>>585099770nah they would just call it something like pilfering supplies
>>585099772Then why does this faggot beg for retail functionalty every thread?
>>585099658>>585099745I am quite sure these are bots shilling the worthless sims for clicks, probably thirdies making a couple bucks a day off ad revenue thinking they are hot shit
>>585099897you have to be baiting
>>585099895It's clearly not retail functionality if you can't trade the items
>>585099897that would not be a surprise since all of these websites are vibecoded AI slop and any and all videos promoting or featuring them are run by very brown men.
orcs and human should be removed because they're FUCKING RETAIL
>>585099897>everyone that disagrees with my retarded tranny opinion is a bot
>>585099781Human male warrior + female gnome onahole
>>585099897actually i post the sims to make browns mad they arent number 1 and its funny
>>585099781>Engineering racial got removed didn't it?They have a lower chance of engineering items malfunctioning. They don't get the +15 to engi skill anymore.
>>585089756Any guild that lets a random main tank is a guild not w>>585089756orth your time
>>585100179thats even better desu, did you see how many nets backfired and people lost in the tourney was wild
i just realised that classic players are proud of the fact that they think every boss fight in vanilla has no abilities
>>585091238>>585096696ONE HUNDRED FOURTY FPS MON WORLD OF WARCRAFT
>>585100280loot pinata number go up is more fun than a new iteration of dont stand in the fire
>>585090908no. Im not a soulless brainlet
I wish Gnome shaman were real
>>585100260>less malfunctions>5% more resource bar>damage increase with resource discount for 8s>escape artist now has 3s immunityGnome may be the only race where all 4 of their racials are a 10/10
>>585100254I bet you feel real retarded right now huh anon?
every raid should require 1 tank per 5 playersdebate me
>>585100439and none of it matters without arena
>>585100034Which class has the ugliest streamers/youtubers? I know this guy and another dude who looks like a shaved troglodyte play warrior. Paladin has Esfand who looks barely human.
>>585100439i just wish the damage increase worked for dots
>>585100254we're all randoms at the start :)
>>585088821Skelves will never compare to BE/HEs
>>585100714rogue they all come from that weird country with the pink blue and white flag
>>585100439Anything that leads to more gnomish sloots out in the world is good
I know this racial has always been a meme but it did just get buffed. Has anyone tested how much hp regen it's giving you in combat now?
>minmaxing>speed running>using restedxp>ganking clothcucks >being toxic in groups>being racist>manipulating the ah>starting political arguments in general>buying gold >ignoring people who use the foid models because they might be trannies Yep it's time to game
I have a delivery here for an I.B. Trooning
Female skelf or female human for my mage, which has the best animations?
>>585101359You're going to have to narrow it down
>>585100439>orc blocks your path
>>585100769true, skelfs are better.
nocapjerome won (morally)
>>585098847I wanted to play a bit to like level 10
14 sleepies until worlofor
>>585101174>Has anyone tested how much hp regen it's giving you in combat now?20%
14 goon seshes left
>>585090449>he needs a leveling add on for a 22 year old game he has replayed multiple timesPathetic is too soft of a word for people like this
>>585101174Tried it on my troll mage, he got around 20% or so I'd say.
only about sixty faps until forever comes out...
14 days in paris left
>>585101729>>585101793So it drops in an hour? I didn't think it came out until 2026 Nov 4!
you now miss alex
>>585101174https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1x73wfh/doubling_the_troll_regeneration_passive_is_the/
>>585101435humans because of casting animation alonein the release human female points one hand forward, and the spell flies from it, makes sensefor elves, they throw both of their hands forward and the spell flies from the left one which looks retarded
>>585096505>he thinks modern gaming company can make anything REMOTELY similar to the OG Warcraft
>>585101950no wonder playing troll warrior felt so based while leveling
>>585101970Yeah I was leaning human, thanks anon
>>585101747>he needs a keyboard for a 22 year old game he has replayed multiple timesPathetic is too soft of a word for people like this
>>585098339What is a female, anon?
>>585101560kys Metzen
>>585102105nah he cooked your ass anon that's a lame retort
The only factor that none of these sims can consider is that there might and likely will be level 60 items that completely change the scaling or rotation. Adding abilities or heavily modifying existing ones. Similar to runes in SoD, but way fewer and gear dependend. Aggrend has alluded to things like this also.SO WHILE O AGREE THAT THESE SIMS ARE ACCURATE WITH THE DATA WE HAVE I DON'T THINK THEY ARE WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING.NIGGERS
>>585088551Like Bruce Jenner?
>>585102149the one with the penis on the inside.
I need the 140 fps troll catbox link ASAP
are they really not going to fuck with the racials anymore?2% crit damage for dwarves seems retardedly weak
>>585102262sorry I obviously meant to reply to >>585101747again Im terribly sorry king, you are amazing
>>585097938>going all the way to Westfall to compete with others for quest mobs which are above your level just to get a fucking leveling bow you will replace anyways in few rl hoursvs>checking auction house for a vendor bow, which is not BoE, during server dawnThink again.
>>585101174it's linear with spirit so you need a lot of thatwarriors get by far the most. wowwiki old source says warriors get 0.8 per 2 seconds out combat so that would be 0.8*1.2*0.2 = 0.192 per 2 seconds in combat or almost 0.1 per seconds in combatfrom what i can find warrior has 85 spirit at 60 (plus minus small amount depending on race) so that would be 8.5 per second (there is also some base amount regen, don't know how much)it's like somewhat relevant for grinding i guess, you fight a mob for 30 seconds and regen 300 during it? sounds good.
>>585098510After playing with personal loot in whitemane I still on the fence on this.It does smooth out finding upgrades but seeing that need/greed/pass window after killing a boss and distributing loot was a big part of vanilla
>>585101931yeah miss me with that bullshit lmao
is it safe to buy gold on anni or did the new glownigger system to catch RMT carry over to anni as well?
>>585102489They'll change them between beta/stress and release, and then we're stuck with them.
>>585102489There will likely be a long list of changes to the game on launch
>>585102524unless you're playing several hours late you're not going to buy a decent bow on the AH. you will need to buy a white bow from a vendor
Ive only ever played tank, healer, or melee dps in the past because my impression of ranged dps was that you basically pilot your rotation with very little reactivity to the boss or situation unless something has gone horribly wrong.Which ranged dps is the most dynamic in dungeons and stuff? Or am I just off entirely. I want to at least give it a try.
>>585102605>rmtranny experiencing fearDo it faggot. Don't be a spineless cunt all your life. You thought you were king thickdick of fuck you mountain when you bragged about it before. Where did all that ego go?
>>585102435PLEASE RESPOND AHHHHHHH
>>585102524>caring about gear when you're playing the most cushioned and capable solo class in the game i'll see you in the city, lilgup, i'll be the level 60
>>585098401It's titan adjacent, so it's slicker than average.
insider info: they are keeping the ele sham giga buffs for few weeks after release so it's not 80% shamans at launch
>>585102793ctrl+F catbox retard
>>585102741listen man i have no idea who youre schizoing aboutim just trying to buy consumes for my guild for ZA and not get cucked out of forevers release
>>585102695I'm not a poopsocker, and I do not consider leveling process to be something that needs to be rushed through. It's definitely worth it to check AH for these two bows, a good deal may be had.
>>585100045damn how old is this
>>585098510A personal loot system where you can't trade the items would fix a lot of loot related issues in the game, including GDKP which they want to ban
This time its gonna be different. Blizzard has learned their lessons and ... and.... TSIKUSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>585102892It's not here retard
>>585102918>delusional rmtrannoid dooming and malding about whether buying gold is a risk nowBuy it and find out nigger. Bet you wont.
>>585098364Wow, so you can craft mythic level gear now in retail?
>>585103002Sorry I thought it was this >>585098213 retard
>>585103080That one is also a banger retard
>>585098506It's more likely forever gets Calia Menethil and her light-enhanced boobs.
>>585102605It's safe, they don't care about anniversary
>>585103042>NowFor like 3? expansions lil gup.Ever since the dragon flight rework and arguably you crafted the sneedo lands legendaries.
>>585102996>TSIKUSO
>>585103034in about five weeks we'll have at least three anons here sharing their sob story about losing their accounts and starting again at level 1, and having to explain to their mom why they need another sub and what that $89 charge from g2g on their statement is.
>>585103034whatever you say lil gup
>>585102918>>585102605Yeah, it's still safe for now. They said it's a new system they're going to try with forever and if it's successful, they'll roll it out to other editions, and they haven't gotten enough data to tell if it's successful or not.
>>585103242>lil gup
>>585103265Good. RMTrannoids deserve to live in terror.
>>585098972Should be constantly filled with babies of every race, so she doesn't fuck things up and leads to the world wars several times over. A homely Jaina is a peaceful Jaina.
>>585103301Anni isn't worth saving anymore. Maybe they will roll out the system on F R * S H
>>585103385Lil(tle) gup(ta)
>>585103143>Calia Menethiloh yeah she's not even dead yet, maybe she can still be rescued from the forsaken
>>585089756>tank lots of dungeons, you'll eventually develop a small harem of healers and make a name for yourselfor>ask the main tank/raid leader that you're interested in the tank role, tell them you're willing to off-tank.
>>585102605There's a new system? I thought there was just a pointless social contract thing on mail now.
>joins your group as DPSwwyd?
>>585103265There won't be permanent bans, it'll be a week or two
>>585102605they won't suspend your account there yet, they'll just ban you for 2 weeks like usual. but it would be literally insane to buy gold on a completely dead game..
>>585092097AWR
>>585103602happy that he wont be needing on my rogue gear
>>585103634if it's a temp ban it's meaningless and everyone will just buy gold then. they know that, so it has to be account bans. unless they don't want to stop gold buying, but that's a different conversation.
>>585103561these are my gups
>>585103301This. The longer you wait to buy gold, the more likely it is you'll be banned. if I were you >>585102605 I would blow my whole bank account on RMT's now just to have it for the future since it will likely come to other clients.
>>585101174>testedits right there man...
I wanna go with Rogue. Who's gonna be a better pick? Cooman or SkyPorn ? Is 2% Crit from human worth it? Because i think than Gliding skill from Skyborne can be kinda useful in a "Falling situation"? Also who's more hot and will get me more money from pretending to be a woman?
>>585102881good for you anon but we likely wont meetIll be out in stonetalon around 27, having fun world pvping
>>585091165I spent hours thinking up character names
>>585103634Tell that to Payo and Snutz.
>>585104067PVE wise right now Skyelves and Humans are equal to the margin of error.Humans are better in PVP but Skelves can glide down gracefully in stealth and ambush a bitch.Human on Alliance, Skyborne on Horde.
Full-time Dali streams are ending soon, with the final stream on November 1st. After that, Dali may still stream once in a while for fun, but there are no guarantees or schedule. Dali will not answer or entertain questions about what he will be doing after streaming ends.
>>585104067I'd let the human female gank my dick IYKWIM
>>585104173I'm gonna name all my characters like Brainrots. Camperino Palladino, Bowerino Hunterino, Doomerino Warriorino
>>585104236Who asked
>>585104236>one less streamnigger good
>>585104215I thought so. The gliding seems like a really big QoL
>>585103770They are never perma banning someone for buying gold
That faggy tournament is the gayest shit I have ever seenEven more proof that they need to remove talent trees
>>585104067Im going humanI can always morph into a blood elf if I want
>>585102996畜生 anon
>>585104743then they are never going to make a dent in buying gold. cool, it's their game.
>>585104762the fuck does one thing have to do with the other?
>>585103593there testing a new thing that trade/ah bans you till they clear you
Forever lost. Fresh Era when?
>>585104173forget it anon the best are already taken/reserved
>>585104409widepeepo happywidepeepo sad
>>585104236oh no!anyways..
>>585104067You should never roll a character because of something so stupid like 2% crit, the most important thing is if you like the visuals honestly, that doll will be at the center of your screen forever. That is why I would never roll a female, a gnome, a dwarf or a blue elf
>>585105251that doll is getting morphed so i dont have to look at it after i pick the racials
>>585105251I am going to roll horde anyway but dam 2% crit sounds mad comfy for leveling, as a rogue I always specc into crit first because bam you crit and the mob is done.....
>>585105251Dis!!! Choose for da goon goon my fellow porn addict!
>>585104762Now how the fuck did you come to that conclusion from the event?
>>585105251>visualsLMAO we are in 2026. Nobody picks their race for visuals except giga-shitters.
I HATE NILLERS
>tfw had a weird phase in my life where I played female characters in games>always gooned out, slutmogged and was leaning toward agp>but everything felt wrong when I interacted with other people, I'd play solo and was always a mute and socially awkward player>mind cleared much later on, didn't like the socially awkward feeling I always had,>finally went back to playing male characters>mind isn't gooned out but I can interact normally with others again>tfwIt's a slippery slope and I'm glad I saved myself
>>585105627I want to do this, but most of the male models in this game are trash. Plus fem Belfs/Skelfs have the best stealth animation
Since it was mentioned earlier, which race has the best animation per class?
>>585101174it's giga comfy on warlockbasically free life tap between mob pulls
>>585105627It's okay to jack-off to your toon, anon.
>>585105843Diagnosis: full blown pronography addiction.Treatment: castration, full frontal lobotomy.
>>585105627The correct answer is one male character as a main + his harem of females as alts.
>>585105627
guide users = vaxxed goyim
>>585105627How does it feel knowing that half the playerbase plays with female characters and don't have these problems?
>>585105997>>585106213Ironically I was a confused young man back then and going through this actually affirmed that I was cis and happier identifying with my birth sex.
>>585106213I am very glad that I don't have the type of autism that allows one to get groomed into this position.
>>585106206i do this
>>585106317I don't feel anything because it doesn't affect me in any way what other people want to play.
>>585106213John is just coping with age. People like this don't yearn to be a woman, they yearn to be youthful and the element of being a woman adds a fantastical (because men can't be women, only transwomen) and impossible part that allows them to self pity instead of coming to terms with the back half of their life.
Playing the forsaken WC3 campaign and seeing UC is cool.
>>585106445Nah you just got groomed into being a /pol/tard instead
>having a second account so you can play the AH on a second monitor while youre on a flight path or waiting around in a raid or whatever Thoughts?
>>585107010Even if that were true, it sounds significantly less miserable than wrecking my body with hormones and cutting off my penis.
>>585107112Why not just have a second monitor and dance for tips in goldshire?
>>585107112I mean i guess if you really have $15/mo. burning a hole in your pocket. Flying is my chance to get up, refresh my drink, have a smoke etc.
Does anyone know if this thing will merge over to the release client, or do I have to download a new install at release?
>>585095829this rotation is literally impossible to perform without massive dps loss as a human being (which i am)
>>585106213>50 years old>masturbate up to 5 times a day>genitals hurti think i've solved the mystery.
>>585088940I kneel, mon...
>>585107439>Sub 60 apm>Impossible
>>585107323*tips you with RMT gold*
why is there no EU horde pvp guild? fug pve
let's cut the "oh everything is useful ^_^" faggot bullshit.which totems should i not bother learning at the trainer because they are realistically never used 99% of the time? i just do pve, so no pvp bullshit.
>>585106351>>585106445>>585106786>>585107541John later transitioned, was accepted by friends and family, and has been living a happier and healthier life ever since without any of the negative and self destructive behaviors highlighted in the initial report
>>585107597>move
>>585107112Just spend $15 a month buying gold instead
>>585107439shoot your load run in blow your melee load step out repeat
There is not enough content in Forever to even qualify it as a Classic + experience
>>585107394i think the stress test is probably the release version but even if it isn't you could start to download the release version. stop it,copy the stress test version over into the relase folder, do scan/repair then continue whatever is left to download.
sorry can't post busy reading up on Jamaican folklore to come up with a cool name for my troll priestJah bless
>>585107661>I cannnttt stutter steeeeppp mooom!!!>*Brown parses into her diapers*
>>585107394It will be on the launch servers so there's a decent chance it's the launch client
>>585107318What's more miserable? Spending all day every day seething about black people not being subjugated to the degree you deem appropriate and schizoid ramblings about da joos; or having a little less muscle mass, nicer hair and smoother skin? >cutting off my penisNothing requires you to do this, why is this what /pol/ always jumps to?
>>585107648Windfury
>>585107541>plap your caged balls to sissy hypnos multiple times a day>genitals hurt>"mhhhhh must be because I want to be a girl!"kek
I only ever played pvp and got multi glad but never ever been in a raid. I am excited to try one for the first time. RIP arenajunkies too I only found out today.
>>585107651Good for him
>>585107648Stoneskin is pretty worthless for pretty much every encounter, windwall too. You're gonna need most of the rest of them at some point
>>585107819point is you have to play perfectly to achieve that dps. you ain't that good, champ
>>585107848>Nothing requires you to do thisa willingness to do this probably proves you're actually a man.no half measures.
>>585107541I don't understand people who jerk off multiple times a day. Like do your sessions only last 5 minutes?
>classic ui>bagnonall you need
>>585107778the reality is they just have to shit out content like dungeons and raids, MC was a rush job with bosses that have like 1 gimmick and people still love it.......they have to get over themselves nobody gives a fuck about "the blizzard polish", the beta was a buggy mess and people still played it like degens, give me 1 dungeon and 1 raid every two months I say !!
>>585108024>Projecting
>>585107648stoneclaw is somewhat useful but also shitstoneskin is pretty shitflametounge sucksyou can skip nature resist totem until 60 if you wanthealing stream suckssentry and windwall are completely worthless
>>585107439Is Hunter really this complicated? Feels more like a Retail Class looking at this.
>>585108024yes thats what all sims are though perfect play
>>585107848>what's more miserable? [this strawman that I made up] or [trying to positively portray fucking up the only body you'll ever for a fetish]Hmm, tough choice.
They're going to extend the beta at the last minute, r-right bros?
>>585108170you don't understand how hard the displayed rotation is>>585108246playing frost mage optimally is a little bit simpler which is my point
>>585108117>hasn't spent all day fapping to eroge before
>>585107848>a little less muscle mass, nicer hair and smoother skin?
>>585108367theres mechanics to take into account too, the hunter rotation wont be as perfect at all, no one will run in and out for 1 melee between arcane and multi, people will just do the simple range buttons > melee buttons > range etc
>>585108117Yes. I do it out of boredom, not pleasure.
>>585107010kek gottem
>>585107848>yeah sometimes black people kill white people >but they mostly kill eachother!>they actually kill eachother so much that being murdered is one of the leading causes of death for them>you should think this is fine or you're an evil racist
forever's success is going to entirely depend on if a troon gets world first 60 or not
Any fellow male gnome enjoyers?
>>585108725I made a Dr. Light lookalike gnome mage alt during beta if that counts
hey what's up pussies. i'm your god and am much better at this game than you. 100 parser, r1 titles, the usual. so, take a moment and kneel while you read this.if you're an employed neurotypical then fuck off, otherwise, i have advice for your worthless trash ass if you want to succeed at this game at the highest level.for anyone here who wants to, and can pursue it, which is likely nobody here, or maybe 1 guy, i'll give you a tip on what to roll and where.the tip: open up warcraftlogs, click "Classic Fresh" (anniversary) at the top, scroll to "BT / Hyjal" section and click on "BT - Speed". when you're on this page, you'll see a mix of alliance/horde and eu/na guilds in the top 15. find one you like, go to their discord to apply, and ask to be in their split raids.show up, be useful, perform well, and if you're not a worthless piece of garbage, you will fill a main raid slot eventually because people come and go in guilds. offer to help with pvp gear and ranking too. be useful. just ask around in general what the top guilds are doing when you apply. stop taking advice from this shit hole filled with nobody worthless faggot trash.
>>585108706isn't it gonna be that one Mage streamer
>>585109079jokes on you a top 15 guild scouted me
>>585109079didn't read
>>585108453this is what they actually look like while they sit there all smug for 'baiting' you in this very thread
I don't like bullying trans folx but they do really good job of making me dislike them ngl
>>585108117fried brains. They do nothing all day but sit online so the tiny bit of dopamine they get from a quick wank is good to them
>>585109079this man needs a good penis washing
bros I've been playing human males since the beginning but in the last couple of days I started levelling a fem gnome, and it's grown on me so much that I'm starting to think I'll actually play one on launchhelp me bros
>>585109224>t. baited in this very thread
>>585109079>do all this to get into a raid thats 1/100th the difficulty of a retail raidWhen youve decided to stop playing in the sandbox, retail is waiting for you.
>>585108293>>585108453>>585108679I've actually talked to enough of you that I know this is exactly how you talk in your discord DMs. You can lie and try to hide it but i see you nonny
>>585109452can you just stfu about the female gnomes. mental illness
>Pedo freak larpPron addiction (goon)>mental illness (goon)>transition (troon)>need to reproduce (noncery).This is the fate of all porn addicts.
>>585107394It only created a _forever_ folder, no extra tag like it was for _beta.Safe to assume they will just patch this on release.
I'm not asking anymore, roll the fucking dwarf shaman so I can get windfury for my warrior
>>585109493this is one of those laugh out loud (lol) but not actually having any facial expression or even smirking situations I reckon. Trannies are so mentally ill that they can't talk like a normal person so have to hide behind a veil of irony
>>585109625thats clearly a hunter also wanting windfury and grace totems
>>585109493I understand this is the only way you can attempt to reproduce, but you gotta do better than this, man.
>>585109625stop acting like dwarf shamans are rare, they're everywhere
Im gonna main tank.
>>585109863I wish you luck in your PUG endeavors.
>>585109936Dont need it. Ill have a guild raid.
>>585109452Their animation and noises are just too cute. I was going to make a femGnome alt but I may have to make it my main instead
>>585109079>all this effort and bootlicking to save 30 minutes per week on a raid
>>585108706If a troon does it, it'll be succesful?
>>585110002agp sissies will not play a dwarf
>>585109625sorry, im already committed to rolling a druid.
Jerome status?
>>585107735You'll get banned if not a streamer
Come on and die with the zombies in the moonlight,They become alive when you die, you cannot fool them,You got to slam with the dead and let it go now,See a thousand hallowed eye stares into the night~
Is this /wowtttt/ or something? Trannies fuck off.
WoW Temporary status? Terminal.
>>585110440Every worlo general is /wowtttt/
>>585110440Wow is a male game so we have a lot of mtfs (they are men) and zero pooners.
Late beta is a funny time. You can let your inventory go to shit. It will all be washed away soon.
>>585110601ive never seen a worse bag addon holy shit
Even though I typically play horde, im going to go alliance this time because I want to play a pretty night elf.I'm a man btw
>BROWN TRANNY CHUD SISSY CHAD GROOMING PEDO NIGGER TROON(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)Worlo Forevelo
>>585110641fuck off retard
What threat meter addon would you recommend?
2 WHOLE NEW RAIDS? ZOINKS SKUPIDUPIDOOOOOOOOOOO I BETTER SUB FOR 6 MONTHS SO I DONT MISS THE ACTION
>>585110767my sack is better than your sack
5ft3 btw.
>>585107439Also, I think mythicsim vibecode doesn't work with the summon hawk ability yet, Beast Mastery Melee Weaving might do even more damage and has a simpler rotation
>>585110440yup. they shit on everything they touch with their prolapsed anus trunk
>>585110878or you can fuck off and not worry about it unless you like being dramatic like a woman
>>585110932AND balding AND a hordelet, life is suffering
>>585110767He's right though. I've never seen a worse bag addon.
>>585111030What's stopping you from going 16 down BM to grab Hawks and then speccing into Mark or Surv?
>>585111326show yours
>>585110932post the twins, hole
>>585098401It's clearly based on old Aztec ruins. You're reaching here, that looks good
>>585098401gnomes have walking robots, dingus
>>585097878>why does retail dungeons look so much cooler than what we got?Because retail players don't insist that nothing ever changes.
What proffessions make sense for a human hunter ?I play for fun so i would prefer to craft something and not just do 2 gatherings profs.Skinning+Leatherworking seems most practical right? But leatherworking makes armor only right, and i’m not getting hit often so it may not be the best choice. Does Blacksmithing make ranged weapons or anything else I would use? Seems like a waste to only use it for 1 slot, I would probably be better off buying my weapons.Maybe Enchanting? I did herbalism on my last run so I’d prefer to not do that again.
>>585110601>do want a bag, but shittier?
>>585110932no wonder he's always so angry
>>585111591You're probably better off going leatherworking or enchanting if you're set on skinning. Engineering has some guns you can craft but blacksmithing does very little for you as a hunter. Leatherworking does make only armor and armor kits, but the stats are still worthwhile
>>585111254NE light weave looks less annoying and doesnt lose much dps
>>585110440Tranny general chud. We OWN you.
>>585109452What class bro? I plan on making a fem gnome priest
>>585111591Yeah sure one of thoseArmor does a lot more than just provide armor you know.
>>585111591LW or alchemy
>>585110932>balding twinkSo its literal manlet rage? lmao
>>585111789>RPthose poor roleplayers kek
>>585111789of course they use HD models
>>585111591>leatherworkingTurns 1-20 into a joke, the new blues from the crate exchange are pretty good too. No idea how well it'll scale vs dungeon gear drops in the 30s and beyond.>blacksmithingThis makes melee weapons anon. Guns are Engineering. Melee weaving isn't really necessary until later.>enchantingI wouldn't, but it's OK I guess.>engineeringSince you didn't consider it, Engineering gives you guns + ammo + scopes + bombs. LW is easier though.
>>585111317>hordeletNot anymore, he quit to go waste his life playing an everquest clone.
>>585111789Alliancebros...
>>585111789>Switching to RP on launchthank god
>>585111789>we just want to get married
>>585111925
>>585111591early on skinning is great because certain rare skins are worth a lot if you are farming them but eventually it gets pretty useless and you are better off having something else
>>585111916I haven't played the beta but a lot of anons said that the crates barely drop and by the time you get enough to purchase recipes from the Merchant's Favor you'll outlevel the gear you'll be able to craft, is that true?
>>585111789>redridge
>>585108706A troon always gets world first 60, because all WoW players are troons.
>>585111789>RPLook inside >PEDO LOONIESIconic
>>585111789>ally>pve>queer-friendly>transredundant. could have just said 1 of those 4
>>585111332Who knows, if you're not going lone wolf it might be nice to go deep beast mastery, wowsims.com and mythicsim.com are giving me different results, but what makes hunter OP is that those specs all build the same - stacking agility - so once the game is out you can gear a character and try out everything yourself, I'll surely do that
>>585108117I am high T so sometimes I just get very horny, but I dont do it every day. Maybe once per 2 weeks or something I'll have a few sessions in one day
>>585108706itl def be an aderalled out butt-pirate
>>585112041It's purely random, but you only need 1 crate to get 50 + 5 turn in. I've gotten at least 1 crate per character having gotten 5 characters to 25 and 1 to 20. I believe you can also buy them on the AH.>>585112135I'm doubtful Lone Wolf will out damage the buffed pets, but I'll wait for the live release pre BIS sims before deciding on that. BM is still the go to for leveling so it's not like it'll matter too much.
>>585109493I don't ERP on discord but I would do that with a cute tranny yeah
>What is the biggest problem with Classic wow? That would the endgame sir. The moment the raidlogging starts people tend to lose interest and quit.>Great lets add a few more raids and literally nothing to do in endgame other than raidlog againGenius. How do you do it sir Aggrend?
>>585112135heres the one from huntercord https://arcs-forever-sims.pages.dev/classic/hunter/
>>585111789>n-no the trannies are all horde!!!They were always alliance.
>>585112019the transitions between colors are completly botched.........
>>585112256yea lets add mitty+ and hunts and delves and world quests so you can do chores 24/7retard
>>585112256What end game could they add?>Hard dungeons Retail, actually >Harder raids Retail, actually >Dailies?Retail, actually >PvP arenas?Retail, actually
>>585112256sorry bro theres 1 in 10,000 chase items from fishing you need to get for raid
>>585112256just do bgs as a filler. there's tons of shit to do..
>>585112340>>585112352
>>585112352naxxramas is a hard raid and is #classic
>>585112429>T-this time for real!I know you are trans
>>585112256Say what they should do to fix it then.
>>585112493It's hard for 4chan porn addicts who put in zero effort, yes.>>585112487Go on. Tell the class what they can add that "isn't retail".
>>585112596Is it my job to come up with a solution anon?
>>585111916>blacksmithing makes melee weapons only.How do i make bows/crossbows then?
>>585112256>That would the endgame sir.Wrong.
Retail won. And that's a FACT.
>>585112487kek imagine posting that pic in the big 26. you're a joke
>>585112340unironically yes. All of those systems can be "classic"-fied (except maybe m+). There is no reason why they shouldn't add those. The game is called wow FOREVER. You will be level 60 FOREVER. They NEED to focus on endgame or the game will be dead in a month.
>>585112715How do we tell him?
>>585112794
>>585112253Where do you do your ERPing though anon?
>it was me Jerry! he's saying I was the wojak!!!
>>585112715bro...
>>585112715u dont, nothing crafts bows, which is bullshit. eng can make some guns though
>>585112256Raid logging isn't bad, and is superior to endless chores being added. Not everyone is a no life loser and the game shouldn't be designed around you being logged in 24/7 to enjoy it.
>>585112715You dont .I think there's a few guns in engineering but shouldn't take the profession just for that purpose.
>>585112794It's still as relevant as ever in the big 26, and will continue to be in the bigger 27.
>>585112821M+ won't work, classic classes lack the tools to speed run dungeons in a satisfactory way.However, something like an endless randomly generated dungeon could be interesting.
>>585112715>hit level 51>pick up your av quests>get the best non-epic crossbow in the gameprobably
They should let you reset your character from max level to 1 and gain shitty bonuses like +1% loot, +1% gold gained. the ultimate hamsterwheel
>>585112821https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0FGyhB6C8
>>585113235This is the only feature all of those "horizontal progression" MMOs share in common.
>>585112256does hyjal have a new faction grind? can do the dailys, bgs, theres tons of shit to do
>change the frost/fire hit talent to be 3 points for 6% hit>leave arcane hit talent as 5 points for 5% hitWhat did they mean by this?
>>585096156>serpent sting's tested AP multiplier is 0.035*5>sim claims it does 1700 damage per castseems legit
>>585111789Thank god this sort of shit doesn't exist on EU servers
>>585112715see thats the neat part, you don't.you can make guns with engineering
>>585112827>>585112969>>585112980How is not crafting ranged weapons a thing? It’s a 20 year old game. That better be the first proffession they addI was planning on only using crossbows. Is that viable? Are there enough xbows on the AH to allow me to do this without gimping myself too much?
this game belongs to me, i'll make it however i want
>>585113513we know Metzen
>>585113475Generally you just use whatever is the best ranged weapon you have access to. But yes, unless they add some new shit with Shaper's Terrace or add new loot to old dungeons you'll probably sit on the AV XBow until the new raids inevitably draw some kind of ranged weapon for Hunters.
>>585111905Hey now...
>>585113475think the problem is itd be a profession that really only matters for hunters they shouldve just put crossbows in blacksmithing and i guess bows in maybe leatherworking?
>>585113394arcane tree has a -minus resist for target talent that fire and frost dont have. otherwise dunno
>>585113475No. Typically there wasn't even any crossbow options until 30+, but this time I've seen one drop in ragefire chasm. But I wouldn't stick to just one ranged weapon type unless you really want to suffer for the RP. There aren't even that many blue ranged weapons all things considered, and xbow is the rarest of the three.
So when are they adding wildy (aka Northrend)??? This is supposed to be le runescape horizontal progression so make it happen NOW
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Brotherhood_of_the_Horse
what alliance race for a shadowpriest
>>585114002nelfie slut
>>585113797>they barely have a game at the momentanon...
>>585114002human or nelf
>>585113976yjk
>>585112794uh oh, that image rustled some jimmies eh?
>>585112272wowsims estimates Summon Hawk at 195 DPS, Arcs estimates it at 64 DPS, I think Arcs is using rank 1 of the spell lol, only wowsims seems reliable for now
Now i understand. We are supposed to consume product and clap. I see now. Forever hype.
>>585114002Nelf Im considering going nelf priest just to shadowmeld and mc people off cliffs when I eventually get bored.
So, when are we going to discover the other side of the planet?I want some uncharted territory kino.
>>585114263Correct.>>585114178No reason to really care about AI sims until launch, because they're still patching shit IE see the recent stealth Mage changes.
>>585113605>>585113668>>585113780that is very disappointing but thanks for the insight. not sure if i want to play anymore. was really hoping to rp as a crossbowman purging the continents of monsters with my trusty pet.amazes me how blizzard has 20 years to make their game better and the onlything they add is blue elves. it’s like watching the infrastructure europeans built in africa crumble because the nigs don’t know how to maintain it. women and feminine men cannot create fun games
Is there no point on getting t0.5 since the raid loot will be better 1 month in?That kinda sucks, one cool thing about Epoch was that because their raid release was so delayed you really got to enjoy t0.5. I liked how it completely changed your playstyle on paladin for example.
>>585114420https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Avalorenwell there was this in retail...
>>585110932he is still our king
>>585102489It's not weak, it's actually 4% more crit damage for melee and 6% more crit damage for some ranged.
>>585114598A new location and a rewritten titan lore (as in, not this azeroth is a titan egg or some shit) would be kino.
>>585114057>>585114141>>585114356nelf does seem fun but i dont know if i can give up stoneform and desperate prayer chastise but both are in the holy book and probably drop shadow form, gnome also looks great for escape artist immunity, aoe blind, contingency heal/shield
>>585113475They should add lumberjack and woodworking as professions. Collect wood and craft rings/necklaces/trinkets/staves/bows/arrows/etc
>>585114931Do consider the Shadow Meld + Mind Control fun if you're going PvP.
>>585111789unironically the most fun people to play with
>>585115381>gets butthurt about literally anythingim sure.
>>585114457crossbows are typically the best weapon if you can get your hands on one at least
>>585115598>>585115598>>585115598
>>585111789average alliance player
>>585111789>say im a tranny>join this guild>save all discord logs for 6 months>report all the pedos to FBI>release all logs on the internet>also have all their social media accounts listed and archivedThis would be pretty funny
>>585114002Gnome is the best for all around and Human is the best for PVP.
>>585116836human is the worst of all choices for pvp for priest
>>585110651it's logical for a man to want to look at women.
>>585111789Imagine the smell
>>585112794NTA I have never seen it be used properly because it's a fake gotcha that amounts to "i aint gotta explain shit" like posting your argument with the chad face next to a crying basedjak
