#6936 - Ashtrata EditionPrevious: >>585003510>SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-plat): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850Manual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.Genesys Duels: MR5, TCG, Custom Rules: No Links/Pend/EMZ/Pend Zones>LinksRulebook: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/Wiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://www.deck-probability.com/index.htmlhttps://yugioh.otterlord.dev/Stores:https://www.tcgplayer.comhttps://www.cardmarket.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.comBlog:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/Alt Format:https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2026-09-21/ (Oct 19/Next List: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news/rbaa7kzp39/ (Oct 1/Next List: Jan 1)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming SetsOCG:●Immortal Phoenix (Oct 31)●Legendary Duel Selection (Nov 12)●Original Duel Set Yugi/Kaiba/Joey (End of Oct)●Revolution Booster: Cubic / Marincess / Ghostrick (Nov 21)●The Chronicles Deck DX: Magistus (Dec 5)●Dark Side of Dimensions 10th Anniversary Movie Box (Dec 19)●Premium Pack 2027 (Dec 21)●Pride and Soul (Jan 23)●Rarity Collection -Climax Scene Collection- (Feb 27)●Complete File: The Demon of Sinful Spoils (End of March)TCG:●Magnificent Maestro (Nov 14)●Glorious Victors (Dec 2)●Immortal Phoenix (Jan 29)>Events●/dng/ Emergency Revival Series (HIATUS)
im ready for the umbral support soon
>>585113140Bugwoman synchro where?
FUCK chorozo
damn he's actually based? shant click tho
>>585114260Negativity gets clicks.
>Ashtray can combo with Triple Thrustwhat broken spell can we "add"or just something funny
Ban this nigger card already.
I demand reparations
>>585114260Just have ai summarize the video for you
>>585114875Only if they bring back Maxx C.
>"This banlist was great!">"The game will now be fair and balanced!">"Going first has been nerfed!">"Handtraps will totally stop all Meta decks and definitely cannot be used by them!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpZyInnaRdc
wait for real events
>branded sissies STILL on damage control
>>585117074I've never played branded. Only recently even used with F&V. This banlist was underwhelming at best. Stop coping.
>I-I n-never played Brandedsaid xir, trannily
are we really using edopro combo videos as a gauge on the format rn
Branded was FAIR and BALANCED
-in 2024
I assume an emergency banlist aims to bring interest back to the game, but this was way too weak to make any players that have left return.
konami please don't turn magistus into the same shit you turned medius into. i know they are getting a structure deck but dont go overboard like you did with ars manga.
>>585117709To be fair Albaz is a little cuck so is fine.
hello does ashtra and ragnaraika works together?
>>585118339Magistus is already a 5+ archetype slop pile
>>585118579Please look at the types between the two archetypes
>>585118339we need to keep the magistus invoked witchcrafter endymion fairy tale slop pile SOVLFUL sisters!
>>585117528Indeed you did, troon.
Going to pleasure myself with this cat
>>585116715>"This banlist was great!"True>"The game will now be fair and balanced!"Nobody said that, but it is more balanced than before>"Going first has been nerfed!"Yes, going first is objectively weaker now>"Handtraps will totally stop all Meta decks and definitely cannot be used by them!"Nobody ever said this
>>585118652>>585118754MORE! Bridge every spellcaster in the game
>>585118663thank you I guess thats a no
>>585116715>retard actually posted one of the exordio copycats /dng/ continues its losing streak
>>585118958>>"Going first has been nerfed!">Yes, going first is objectively weaker nowDoes Mediuslop look weaker to you right now?>>"Handtraps will totally stop all Meta decks and definitely cannot be used by them!">Nobody ever said thisYes, they have.
if chain-smoker cat ever got copied for an arch-type what type and attribute would they be.
>>585119189>Does Mediuslop look weaker to you right now?nta, but yes
>>585119330Then you need an eye surgery.
>>585119189>Does Mediuslop look weaker to you right now?Yes>Yes, they have.No they didn’t. They said handtraps will be more capable of slowing/stopping the going first player. Meta decks also go second dumbass.
>>585119263EARTH Fiends
>>585119456Are you one of those retards that doesn’t play the game and comes here to rage bait? Because it’s clearly not as strong, becoming more vulnerable to high impact handtraps like Nibiru and being forced to end on much weaker end board pieces than before.
>>585119263>cats never
>>585118339They already are the shit medius is, they’re just worse since they banned Secret Village
>>585119189anon, you don't understandwe went from full handrip + 17 interruptions to 12! We even get to keep our hand! It's balanced
If you're dead set on complaining about something (which is the primary way a lot of people interact with this game), complain about the Chess deck getting off scot-free.You could argue the deck is easier to silver bullet via the sidedeck which is fair, but if we're doing the wholesome chungus format shit I don't see how you justify ChainEnergy.dek being in the format.
>>585119910So then you agree that it IS weaker and more balanced than before. Thanks for conceding.
>>585119978its a stun deck, loses to any preparation. you have the same energy as faggots bitching about chain burn a a decade ago.
>>585119684I guess eating a nib and ending with a worst case scenario of Medicurius + Rhapsodia revive June Pride summon back everything make Junora for 2 omnis (3 if they run the Ars Magna trap) + 3 draws (In a 18 handtrap deck) + Regina followup + mass banish is still a downgrade for the deck
>>585119886>They already are the shit medius is, they’re just worse since they banned Secret Villagei just want something to do with it other than flood-gating with conflagration ban if if you want to but dont go overboard.
>>585119978It’s easier to beat main and side since it dies to many universally applicable handtraps (ash, ogre, fuwa, dominus purge/impulse). It’s a toxic stun deck but you’ll absolutely beat it more going second than a comboslop pile if you have any competence.
Notice me senpai: with this banshit how strong is go 1st?
>>585120118Actual delusion on your part because you’ve been mindbroken by yugitube slop. Please play the fucking game before speaking.
>>585120386>less powerful endboard pieces and less insulation during the combo Better than going second but not as oppressive.
>>585120392Yugitube slop would be all about running meme monsters like Return Zero or Clear Wing, I'm explaining how even the most optimal Nibiru possible still leaves the deck with a crazy amount of breathing room
>>585120386now instead of 95% going first wr there's 94%, game is saved
tfw you make a whole song and dance about hitting degenerate floodgates and other shit the community whines about only for a stun deck to take 3 out of 8 spots and get zero (0) hits on said monumental banlist
>>585119263
It’s actually funny to see the people shitting on the banlist forced to admit that it DID improve the game even when they downplay by how much.
>>585121268>It’s actually funny to see the people shitting on the banlist forced to admit that it DID improve the game even when they downplay by how much.i agree it improved things but konami should have banned 100 card minimum.
>>585118883You think Elzette would place her Infernities in the s/t zone
>not doing any direct support for TCG exclusive archetypes anymorelol how passive aggressive and petty can the OCG get?
>>585121432Once again, just run like 10+ back and ban all one card starters. Then, ban floodgates and ass blassum/charmies/droll. There I fixed your game, for 3 months till ocg stars all over again because you know, it's first and foremost a card design issue
>>585121582Is Mo Ye a 1 card starter?
I like how the entire OCG region shares the same sentiment that the TCG is full of whiny little bitches
>>585121923No, tcg just doesn't deepthroat corpo dick like the japanese. I have yet to see people who love getting shat on by corporations as much as them, even the burgers sometimes grow a spine
>>585121923>I like how the entire OCG region shares the same sentiment that the TCG is full of whiny little bitchesocg is willing to go full gamble on soul decks tcg worships at the alter of consistency.
>>585122056If you didn't deepthroat corpo cock you wouldn't be playing this game in the first place, as long as you do you're still cattle.
>>585122056Your words would be more convincing if those weren't uttered while you still have tewert and jerome dick in your mouth
>the game is now slower>going second has a chance now>degeneracy slowed down hard>free bridges were addressedThis trannoid lost HARD Like their biggest bullet point is the HEckin chess deck? lmaoooo
>>585122264i haven't spent any money in yugioh in years, i only play edo nowadays
>>585113549Sex>>585119167Sex
>>585122486Every single YouTube should be lined up against a wall and shot, and taking their opinions seriously should be grounds for getting shot too. You just need to play the fucking game and you can see what the problem is
>>585122553Same shit, different day, you're keeping the game alive
>>585121923i like how this trannoid is on a legit suicide watch >nono "search exordio strategy" game still le bad!>people are not going to come back >nono it changed nothing!!meanwhile in reality >oh man cannot wait for locals>i will play the game again >thanks konami you did it again , you saved the game!like i think its time to join the 41% noid
When the fuck are we getting more Monarch support in the actual game? The art in rush duel goes hard, and fuck Konami for wasting them.
Joey bros... how we feeling
>>585122956You could just go play them in Rush
>>585123048Rush more like trash
>>585121432Yes, more can and should be done. But the game is better now than it was before this past weekend.
>>585123000You will get insect queen retrain and you will love it
>>585121923I don’t care what non-whites think
last batch>I'm glad I'm Japanese>Can you really do what you want with these regulations? Aren't there endless generic negation effects?>Aside from Chess, I feel like Clown, Sky Striker, and Doomz are strong.>Amazing! Bravo!>Is it really okay for something like this to be allowed?>It seems Elfennote has started wielding Return Zero Dragite Photon Lord, so maybe those will be banned next.>Even with all this regulation, it's still not enough, it's crazy. The OCG will just create more crappy cards and the TCG will ban them, and this cat-and-mouse game will start again. They need to create design rules.>I guess cards that stop the hand trap played by the second player aren't good. >The TCG management team banned every single card that annoyed them!>Japan should adopt this too; it would probably bring some people back.>Japan should follow suit, and while we're at it, ban Engage, Virtuous, Brand Fusion, and Super poly>I'd love to see a festival or trial event using this regulation, which is currently the hottest topic in the Yu-Gi-Oh! community.>Just divide them up like in Magic: The Gathering. It's impossible to get a good balance with all the cards.>It's ridiculous that they banned Zenna so soon, lol >I hope they succeed and defy the expectations of people who aren't even competing>In the end, aren't they just trying to sell us the new set...? Chess is untouched, and Toons barely affected>I'd like you to try running an MD event with these restrictions.>From a player's perspective, I guess it can't be helped, but I wonder what the card shops over there think. >Some say Japan wouldn't impose such restrictions, but recently it seems like they're gradually merging OCG, TCG, and MD, so you never know>I appreciate the effort to improve things, but the damage is too great. Couldn't we implement a system similar to Duel Masters' combo ban, where certain cards can't be used in specific themes?>I wonder what the reaction is from overseas
>>585123281>insect queen retrain and you will love itSure if she is a sexy loli or a sexy hag
>>585122512That deck is complete bullshit and you don't play the game. Granted I don't either, because food is a bit more important than Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
>>585123557>>Japan should follow suit, and while we're at it, ban Engage, Virtuous, Brand Fusion, and Super polyholy based
>>585122832yeah i don't want the game to die i want it to be betteri personally have no way of doing this, but if enough people stop spending money in the game and not attending events konami is forced to change it, hopefully for the better, in an attempt to recapture audience
>stumble across a guy claiming Speedroids didn't use Crystal WingHoly fucking shit I need to stop reading other people's opinions I'm getting ragebaited
>chain>beatrice>curious>zenna>union carrier (in a certain way)>mercurium (loading...)do you think they've finally learned that this is a horrible idea?
>>585124147Lolno, get ready for the next extra foolish sometime in the future, they'll just staple some meaningless restriction on it.
>>585123986Ok but why are you talking about a rando here? Want attention from us that much?
>>585123986https://x.com/xaTur998/status/2112413397220315473I really can't tell if I hate TCG or OCG players more
>join random db ranked room to spectate>judge call in progress>join another one>another judge call in progresschrist
Clown Crew more viable now?
>>585124271Not sure why you think the point wasn't about a retarded opinion rather than a completely unmentioned subject outside of an opinion.You seem very effeminate with your odd deference to the larger group and assumptions about attention.
>and then I said "we're hitting branded to lower the ceiling" and they all believed it hahahahhahahaha
what's the verdict on mai.dek is it soul or slop.
>>585123986after the latest waves of support it's true though? you barely went into crystal wingbefore the most recent support wave all the deck did was 2crystalwing lol with hagoita tho but even that was mostly only because baronne got banned so the usual baronne+CCWSD line didn't have the same payoffwith heavenly CW (making clear wing rider very powerful for the endboard instead of just ok) and crystal clear wing over dragon around though you don't even care about summoning crystal wing
>>585125414All archetype merges are slop
>we are not sheeps>we also have grievances >gaijin piggu you need to accept the power creep! eat the sloppu who cares if you dont play your turn!
Why does she bare her tits out like that?
>>585125558Why do you retards hunt down jap posts with 2 views to try and use as anything representative
>>585125558>>gaijin piggu you need to accept the power creep! eat the sloppu who cares if you dont play your turn!they are not wrong the ocg is the bread winner tcg is extra money that is nice to have, yes without tewart tcg would make more money but its very hard to remove him at this point.
they are pissed because they know this is the right thing to do and KoJ is 100% never going to do it for them
>>585125743So I can suck on it. Duh. Those tits are mine
>>585123557>>I'm glad I'm Japanesehow pathetic these bugmen are?
>archetype with cool as fuck artwork>plays like absolute shitwhy does this keep happening
>>585125869This is what i boils down to yeah. They know it sucks but refuse to do anything about it because idk, no questioning your superiors i guess, so when someone else bitches and actually.gets good change they act like "actually you shouldn't complain Yada yada"
>>585125558He is right. Tewart and the entire KoA are just KoJ's dogs. Tolerating your dog's occasional disobedience is no biggie, but if the dog is stupid enough to not know where the bottom line is and continues to be uncooperative then you can just abandon it
>>585125890Regina...
>>585125808easier to get (You)s than hosting
>>585126049>looks like a big brother of Thresh from LoL>sees no play in Azamina>Azamina is mostly a waifu deck>niche effect
>>585126049You can improve on them by stopping it up with traptrix but that kinda cuts down on the cool artwork part
most yugiohfags>elfnote is cancer and ruining game I hate themme>sexooo kowashitai!does anyone else feel the same?
>>585127034>does anyone else feel the same?no matter how sexy the art if the deck makes the game unfun i dislike it. there are no end of cool decks with sexy art.
>>5851219232 nukes weren't enough
Why is /dng/ no longer having tournaments? What gives?
>>585127034ocg and malpissocg and raye >>585127217we should try one with the new banlist to see how the game has ""changed""
>>585127034The ryona bait
KILL ALL WAIFU DECKS!!!!!
>>585123557>>Japan should follow suit, and while we're at it, ban Engage, Virtuous, Brand FusionBased nip
The more I think about it, TOSS wasn't just a funny name for that format, it was also the a ranking from most based to most cringeThunder Dragon > Orcust > Salamangreat > Sky Striker
>>585119263DARK Beast-Warrior
>>585123557>>Japan should follow suit, and while we're at it, ban Engage, Virtuous, Brand Fusion, and Super polyBeast Mode
>>585128285>Thunder dragon>Top cringeNigga did we play the same format? Thunder Dragon went through so many fucking humiliation rituals when they were in their ''prime''>Beaten out at a YCS by Pre-Meowmeowmu Prankids>Gaped by pre-Liger Dancer Lunalight>Trolled by pre-DANE Orcust (not a finals game, that was SG getting humiliated by set3 pass brain hack)>Nibiru made the variants with guardragon (or dragon link as it woud be known later) suck shit up so they went back to play pure>By the time said variant of TD was nibiru proof, colossus got bootybannedTD was THE jobber deck, such a jobber that them winning a YCS was celebrated like if a rogue tier deck did it because they sucked THAT much shit, it only trolled SS
>>585125558Why do Japs even care? They don’t play in our format, they don’t use our banlist, and anything we do has no effect on them.
>>585129395>not* top cringe
>>585128285Salmangreat was cringiest indeed but also easier to beat. Orcust was such a faggot deck if you didn't opened Lancea, specially if they played Lunalight or Engage engines.
>>585129395Maliss jobbed YCSs constantly, didn't make it any less cringe.
>>585129395Why is /dng/ always wrong and so hyperbolic? Thunder Dragon did underperform when it came to actually winning a YCS, but that was considered odd because it topped at far higher percentages than all the other meta decks. And you can’t just say everyone was playing it because it was also the most expensive by far. Thundra cost $1k during TOSS.
>>585129430>and anything we do has no effect on them.Worlds uses a combined banlist of both tcg and ocg, our bans do affect them. But also not really>implying that by worlds 2027, shit won't be crazier with an even stronger more solitaire metaYGObabboons across the world, japan included, need to understand, nay, get it drilled through their thick skulls, that YGO can never ever ever ever ever be anything but turn 1 solitaire wombo combo shit. This banlist did not solve that fundamental issue.
>>585123557>>Some say Japan wouldn't impose such restrictions, but recently it seems like they're gradually merging OCG, TCG, and MD, so you never knowNip-strodamus-san. Please don't bring this into the world.
>>585129675TD topping a lot is irrelevant in the face of being beaten by crappy ass petdecks, that IS the humiliating part about thunder dragons back in 2018-2019, they were VERY fucking strong [especially the Danger variant, that shit popped off like crazy].But losing to shit like Lunalight? Prankids? Orcust? all 3 before their support?Shit's like being at the NBA finals and losing to the fucking New York Nicks.
I missed the post last thread about what new themes I want brought into the game. I want a crab theme! Thank you.
now they banned all the good cards, what am I supposed to play now??? fucking counter fairies??
>>585130439Power patron is still busted
>>585130439YOU VILL PRAY GRORIOUS RORE PIRE OR ERSE DING DONG BANNU
just split worlds at this point
>>585130439Unironically you can? Use the Melodius engine and you have 2 omninegates + scales to spam the Level 4s outside of your Traps.
>>585130841But how can call yourself a world champion if the most overpopulated continent is excluded? It's just a glorified nationals then.
>yugioh heavyweight champion>yugioh universal champion>yugioh undisputed champion>yugioh intercontinental champion
>>585130439You can't play shitEven Predaplant lost Crystal Wing and Albion.Diabellstar is gone so that's also a bunch of cooked decks like White forestThey just killed every rogue deck and kept only the same old meta is around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UUZKXEJpt0
>branded sissies STILL complaining and not even hiding themselves nowit's just sad...
>>585131148The OCG will continue to whine about Worlds and just bring the mood around the event down. Let them play amongst themselves (and lose to the Chinese).The TCG, in turn, gets to stop pretending like we need to consider the OCG and worlds for our banlists.
>>585121910I could not tell you the amount of times I've drawn Mo Ye + 4 non-engine
>>585131746btw the deck won the genesys event as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLOtohDnStw
>>585131549Yugioh should unironically just do weight classes. If you're over 200lbs you shouldn't be in the same room as people at 125lbs. Though admittedly Jesse Kotton exists so maybe we should bump that up to 300lbs or higher.
>>585131803Multiple decks got straight up nuked and you have to listen to those people crying as if they haven't gotten special treatment for 4 years.
henlo /dng/! what's up ? :3
>>585132381Ah yes, the special treatment of BraFu to 1 during Ryzeal Maliss format which caused the deck drop off the face of the earth instead of banning the actual problem in Sanctifire.
>>585130439Solemn is at 1 :( (In fact there's very little reason to play trap decks ever since all the good floodgates got hit, but all the people who care quit forever ago anyway.)
A cute.All of them.
Branded niggas feeling 1% of the pain Lunalight players felt in 2020 when the banlist of that time just cleared the remaining meta (more like rogue tiers) that was not developed because of covid.
>>585134189Cute and unplayable without Ilia Silvia.
>wanted to build witchcraftersslop>turns out that they actually needed cross-sheep to access the extra deck linkslopwellshitis this deck just not playable now outside of pure? I already tried the magistus engine but its surprisingly more bricky than i expected.
>bought legendary pack 2 month ago>hab bannedit's so over for me
>>585135303They needed Dragoon too.
>>585129995Prankids hard countered Thunder Dragon
>>585135497Anything got hard countered by prankids because the guy won by the power of nobody reading their cards. All you need is Titan to pop the normal summon and prankids just pass, literally.
>>585135620>All you need is the fusion nobody made
now that the banlist has come and gone, how long can DMoD escape it?
>Please nuke the format>Konami proceeds to nuke the format>NO NO NOT LIKE THAT MY PETDECK WAAAAH WAAAAH
>>585135805Branded niggas believed their own fanfiction about being an 'eternal deck'
>>585135764DMOD is useless without Dragoon and Souls.
>>585135805Bro really out here thinking Konami went far enough with the bans. It's not a real banlist until EVERYONE is crying.
>>585135805>YCS Houston literally had 3 Branded decks in the top 16>"""pet""" deck
>>585135945You can use it in clown crew Rolad (:>summon ritual dmoc>upgrade into dmod>dmod grab dark magical curtain>curtain summon black witch>link into Cyberse contract witch>cyberse witch add flair, black witch grab droll
>>585135764uuuuuh it depends i guess
>>585135805>nuke the formatOther than Branded, Yummy, and Mitsurugi, which of these actually got nuked?
Should I run 2 Phara or 1 Benten 1 Vanity’s Ruler in my pure clown crew deck?
>>585136836The Wicked Avatar
>>585137546But he’s not searchable…
>>585136669trainsbros....
gonna miss killing people with kusanagi when they nerf chess :(
>>585135945>make DMOD>search curtain>summon witch>search drollanon
>>585135882The only eternal deck is Sky Striker
>>585135945so trve. and halq is useless without jet synchron
Hosting EU casual
>>585139034is it because albaz is brown or raye being blue eyed blonde
>>585140842Raye has green eyes, she's a false aryan
>>585129759>worldswhy would japan care, they can't win it with every possible factor in their favor
>>585136445>>585138561>searches (card that will be gone next banlist)Next you'll tell me Dark Paladin is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrQ9ZQzqVSwnot a fucking chance... screw mercurium man
>>585129995Bujin lost to petdecks a gorillion times and that deck was considered good.
>>585132028finally someone else who realizes how good the trap is
>>585143008mercurium was always going to be a problem
>>585143217This needs the 200 IQ guy saying going first Ash Blossom is only a problem because one card combos are too powerful
>>585143217But only after it has warped 10 years of card design.
Toying around with the fact Lunalight can use Alembertian to search fucking everything and i came across this gem, but sadly just stopping elfnote isn't enough, Toons can just roll through this.
>>585143895sad truththe damage ash has done to the game is immeasurable
*places card from deck*
How come it took so long for retards to realize Ash should be banned?
>>585144491I've been saying this since 2019
honestly ash might actually bite the dust in a not far futureashing a charmy is instant gg and that on the long run is going to piss off the same people that forced KoA into releasing the nukelist>>585144491a good chunk of the playerbase is still defending it
>Muh charmie must resoooolveHow about instead of playing coy with keeping it fair, we just print more handtraps that stop plays rather than suggesting people to stop?
>>585144491/dng/ loves it still because they hate Josh and Charmy.
ash not only lost its purpose, but it switched sidesit was created to stop searches, now it helps combo spamonly combobabs keep denying it
>>585144905actually I hate ash, love charmy and have no strong feelings toward josh
>>585144827>you should remove player agency because i say sothings like the charmies and murakumo's negate are a good design direction. more options is better when it comes to interaction opportunities
>>585134189Silvera is huge.
>>585144827>handtraps that stop playsBecause that's literally part of the problem. Mulcharmies are flawed bandaids but they're the best method of bridging the gap between going first and second.
>>585143008it's legit 3 bannable cards in one, it's the kind of shit that confirms TCG players opinion that KoJ don't know what the fuck they're doing
>>585144491Because now pros think it should be banned. People called Ash broken on release, but TCG players had a "just adapt" mentality and they would call you a scrub for complaining about stuff like Ash or negates.
GGs aryanrape
>>585145862ggfor some reason i thought you had 2 of the trap so i was playing around that
>>585145271You know what else was a flawed bandaid? Maxx CIn both ways, cards like Mulcharmies and Maxx C should stay banned forever just like combo enablers like Gateway of the Six was back when it came out.Again, the whole playing coy with card design is stupid shit, if the game is going to have turn 1 boards being built to be solitaire shit, letting the opponent solitaire but you get draws is a pansy way to handle things compared to nuking them with the likes of Droll, Lancea or other widespread floodgate handtraps.If your deck can't handle them, skill issue.
Immortal Phoenix's last 5 cards will be ___
>>585147292Kinda shit.
>>585147292>043/065PURRELY SUPPORT>022generic of unknown quality (they've been better lately so i'm betting it's gonna be good)>036if i had to take a guess this is a generic illusion fusion (don't ask me how i know)
>>585146765The only skill issue that of card design. If we're just going to throw up our hands and say the only solution to going second is to turnskip player 1 before turnskipping you, why have a banlist at all? >inb4 it's not about balance it's about salesYeah and it turns out ignoring balance gets your tournament attendance halved so you better improve your sales pitch.
>>585146765>comparing mulcharmies to maxx Cyou're in bad faith
>>585147292>>585147559actually i completely forgot that dark time wizard still didn't get support... and i think neither 017 nor 022 can be dark time wizard support due to orderingmight be over for purrely, more likely 017/043 are whatever and 065/036 are joey slots, assuming it gets 2 like rolad did
we need a unga bunga checkers deck to counter the chess deck
one of our heroes, tidal
>>585147867While i do agree maxx c is 10 times stronger because it covers all specials and can be used turn 1 makes the charmies more balanced, the philosophy behind the charmies is just abhorrent.The whole "OMG THE TURN 2 PLAYER SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT HALTING THE TURN 1 PLAYER'S PLAYS!!" philosophy did not die 3 years ago, or 6 years ago, or 9 years ago, or even 12 years ago, that philosophy died when Zexal started with the build-a-board shit because konami was ilke "wow, quasar so legendary and cool, a hard to bring out omni negate, very good balancing choice. Now how about we instead print Evolzar Laggia and Dolkka worldwide who are far easier to summon negates that shit on the opponent's dreams, xd".There is no way to fix the game, plain and simple, so might as well just print more Droll-likes instead of pussyfooting with fair-play, something that hasbeen an anathema for YGO players for decades, YGO is the way it is because that's what the game's sales dictated its direction. Strong cards sell, bad cards shelfwarm.
>>585129395Thunder dragons also jobbed to trickstars
>>58514729243 has to be a Umbral Horror XYZ. Joey will likely get 2 cards. Then 2 free agents?
>>585148782An extra note, my reasoning for droll-likes is purely because i honestly find it more fun to play around Droll than any maxx c-like because if you can figure out a way to play under droll as a search-happy deck, that shit shows some good flexibility in deckbuilding, the interactions with maxx c and multcharmies when i played in OCG were just "oh no i did not resolve maxx c *hits surrender*" type of shit from my opponents [This extends to Master Duel back when i played that shit]. Dedicating a chunk of your deck to interact with maxx c/mulcharmies compared to dedicating the same slots those cards take to maindeck some strong silver bullets that hit the meta felt like i had a stronger chance at going second because the only decks that can run both of those aspects are small engine autopilot shit that i do not find fun or going way beyond 40 cards in main.
Fuck generic endboard pieces
don't worry at some point both ash and droll will leave
>>585149184>because if you can figure out a way to play under droll as a search-happy deck, that shit shows some good flexibility in deckbuildingNo it doesn't; it means you already drew the cards you needed to search.
our hero...
>>585149361play genesys
>>585149451If the game reaches the point ash blossom is banned, there's only two outcomes from that shit1)Ash blossom will likely be immediately replaced by a much stronger [and very expected to be expensive] card and the game is still the same spiel of shit as it is today2)Konami some-fucking-how fixed the game that you can live without ash blossom ruining little timmy's day because you ashed that Blue eyes card that adds 2 3000|2000 dragons by discarding a card.But you gotta be a complete coocoo deluded motherfucker to think this game is fixable, Ash is staying no matter what, the most likely scenario is that ash gets powercrept and only wastes your deck's space because of the charmies.
We need a yearly nuke banlist
>>585147292We're still missing like 2 overframes right?
>>585149925quarterly*
>>585149659Or the deck can do more than searching such as milling or other forms of pseudo-adding cards
>>585149974We're missing just one>New Ra>New Heatleo>New Diabellze
>>585147559>purrely supportI believe it because I decided to
>>585145441…you know that's a tcg exclusive right?
>>585148468>Only 4 Xyz monsters, red and black piece with indentical effects, and a rank up king version also with identical effects>just works like pawn but instead of banishing it attaches as material, and if it attaches it can also attach a spell/trap in it's column. >When it hits 3 material it can rank-up to a king piece that works the same but with more attack>maindeck is all quick-play spells that put the monsters in the backrow, activate their effects as quick effects, or copy the effect after it's activated. There is a second set with identical names and effects simply called Red ____ or Black ____.>All the searchers set things onfield to dodge Ash and droll>Incapable of going beyond 4 summons and doesn't need too, xenophobic locks itself into rank 1s.>no hard once per turn on any of the spells or monster effects. Just pure straightforward play cards do thing glue eating.It shall be the most powerful of board breaker decks, because it'll be so simple you won't be able to fuck it up.
>>585150843Isn't it Power of the Duelist? I thought they showed that onstream?
>>585149361I know right, getting mass negated by Elfnote feels way better now that they do it with only Medius cards
>>585151203Finally... Numeron 2...
>>585151210It was shown on stream but it's not an extended art.
>>585151528It is
Name 1 problem that wouldn't be fixed if players got to activate Skill Drain from deck turn 0.
it's over...
>>585151793I missed it. Thank you anon.
>>585151924Hey buddy, i think you got the wrong board. >>>/vm/palworld is two blocks down.
>>585150017You can generally only do that once, meaning you already drew everything you needed, or if you can do it more than once, your deck never cared about Droll to begin with. Considering your insistence on turnskips, your actual complaint is that either you can't play through a halfboard, or you can't put up a halfboard. Or maybe you're so drunk on the idea of turnskip that you can't stand it when both players are participating in the game.
>>585151924I'm noticing a trend regarding the choices.
>>585151924commonbros lost
>>585151924>Suicune copy>Salamence copy>Gardevoir copy>Cinderace copyImagine some new TCG copy Blue Eyes, Dark Magician and Egyptian gods...
>>585151924ok but who's the least popular not-pokemon?
>>585152880I'd play it if it's good
>>585152880>imagine a better yugiohok you've sold me
>>585152270>when both players are participating in the game.Last time i had to hear this charde about both players participatig, i had to endure defending a tier 0 format with turn 0 cards. So yeah, i'll conceede that i am drunk off the idea of printing silver bullet cards, if only for the same principle as the way Nibiru warped the game around. I want more cards like Nibiru that force players to calm down or else they get buttfucked, and then easily dispose of the decks that can ignore said game-warpers. It just gets to a point, really. I've played this game for far too long that i've seen many formats where shit is just "did u open the out?" and "did you open the out to my out's out for your out?" ad infinitums. Might as well rip off the bandaid and make this game more aids than it already is.It's either this or japan prints the next meta deck that makes Toons look like digital bugs.
>>585152798top 6 is gigasex besides solenne tho
>>585153014fat or ugly losers
>>585153321endure *people defending a tier 0 format.
>>585153321>I want more cards like Nibiru that force players to calm down or else they get buttfuckedNib made people calm down for like 5 months before the paradigm shifted to "make a monster negate before the 5th summon" instead of "make a passable board in under 4 summons"
>>585153716That's more or less what i mean by "then easily dispose of the decks that ignore said gamewarpers".Maybe with all the negates they banned, Nibiru stocks may raise, but i doubt it. I think i saw an elfnote combo that summons that big Genex boss that can negate nibiru, which goes to show konami did not hit that faggy deck enough but i'll digress.The only times i see this game calm down relatively to its power level is when people get smart about silver bullets that can hit multiple decks. It's part of why ghost belle and soon, ghost ogre will be big maindeck stapes, but when the maxx c brainworm has affected TCG players into going "MY MULCHARMIE MUST RESOLVE", that's when we get deckbuilding that just promotes this kind of pretentious shit. If anything the right thing to say should be "MY NIBIRU MUST RESOLVE".
it would be perfect comedic timing if pride and soul contains the next tier 0 archetype tbf lol
>>585153716it still bricks most decks endboard to get a negate out early
>>585154062That's generally how these things pan out
>>585153484>PIERDOn>2 of themFunny
>>585147292What a garbage set
>>585153484surfent bros...
losing braincells trying to talk to MD players
Moreso a proof of concept to see how far Lunalight can go without Cross Sheep and especially Dugares, both of those hits stung like a bee.Sucks that i can't properly test with a Scarlet Tiger that can search poly outside of testing droll scenarios.
>>585154062>Sets are made months in advance>The OCG has to look at the TCG's lists before approving them>The OCG approved the TCG's 5-part list because they had the next powercreep central deck ready to goGuaranteed to be the case.
>>585154585why is deep sea diva a man now?
>>585153321Do you materialize Naturia Beast against every Striker player or what? >did you open the out to my out's out for your outSilver bullets are equally subject to this as any "fair" handtrap or boardbreaker or endboard. Unless you're going to say make every silver bullet unrespondable too. Tearlament might be a shit format, but in the context of actually playing, it's a good mirror.>inb4 DwellerWhich was a problem card since its printing and more often than not player 2 actually got to prevent it before it actually hit the board. If you can't reverse powercreep, having a varied meta of Tearlament-like decks is the best way about it. >and make this game more aids than it already isI'll give you a point for honesty, moreso than the chucklefucks who will mysteriously go quiet when asked what an ideal tier 1 deck looks like.
>>585155938Why the fuck would you want Bo3 on MD of all things?
>>585155938>better player winning is actually a bad thing!no wonder lenny and junk stick to MD now
>>585156891tbf Lenny has always been a shitter>JunkDoesn't he stick to MD because Bo1 favors Traptrix?
>>585157268BO1 favors all shitdecks
>>585156541>Do you materialize Naturia Beast against every Striker player or what?No but i wish that was a thing 8 years ago, lol.>Silver bullets are equally subject to this as any "fair" handtrap or boardbreaker or endboard.Fair is fair, in a perfect world, handtraps should be minor one-for-one trades, stuff like Ghost Ogre, Ghost Belle and Imperm/Veiler/Mourner feel more fair to drop on people compared to a nuke like nibiru or droll locking down people or shifter disabling far more decks than droll can (while also being less flexible, not every deck can run shifter). But this ain't a perfect world, and maxx C is to blame (hell part of the reason i tolerate droll is due to the hilarious self-drolling where the Maxx"Charmie"fag draws 1, gets drolled, and you can continue your plays)>Tears might be a shit format but in the context of actually playing, it's a good mirrorIt IS a funny mirror admittedly, before Ishizu cards dropped, someone made a meme list of Lunalight Tearlament because Bujintei Kagutsuchi mills 5 and is not hard OPT and Lunalights loop him. When i playtested that shit on edopro, i wind up playing full duels with myself with all the effects going back and forth. I wouldn't wish this kind of hell on anybody because consistently hitting chain link 10's looked like AIDS to actually play IRL>DwellerI still miss my nigga and i still think tearlaments deserve every second of getting hit with dweller. But at the end of the day, dweller's is just a generic endboard piece, a good one that could autowin duels (if you think dweller oppressed the tear mirror, need i remind you that in TOSS, Dweller shuts down the entirety of TOSS except for Raye and even she doesn't appreciate the GY floats being disrupted)>What an ideal tier 1 deck looks likeMy ideal YGO involves konami to stop printing shitty cards. every single bit of YGO product should giga warp the format one way or another, and i mean WARP, no more packfiller.
>>585157268>tbf Lenny has always been a shitterso was junk lmao
>>585157837>in a perfect world, handtraps should be minor one-for-one trades, stuff like Ghost Ogre, Ghost Belle and Imperm/Veiler/Mourner feel more fair to drop on people compared to a nuke like nibiru or droll locking down people or shifter disabling far more decks than droll can (while also being less flexible, not every deck can run shifter).if you wanna play go-fish with starters vs handtraps go play snake-eyes mirrors. we saw what happens when the one-for-one handtraps are good, you just compare hands. cards should actually meaningfully impact the gamestate. slinging cantrips while not actually meaningfully interacting with your opponent is the default gameplay pattern of vintage mtg, not yugioh.
Hosting on eu casual
>>585159113>you just compare hands.All the more vindication to what i say about this game being an unfixable mess. But i'll digress from that and just say that snake-eyes was primarily cancerous because of all the generic stuff they had access to, Snake-eyes only serves as a good reminder that super glue cards like OSS should not be in the game.
Has Konami ever unbanned a negate?I know they've unbanned a floodgate like Colossus or Protos for example.
Ars magna cards are the real villain of the format right now
>>585161206The OCG banned Dragoon and unbanned him years later for what it's worth.
>>585161206Drident but that's a pop.Also they didn't ban DPE but I think they hit Fusion Destiny or something I don't remember.
>>585161206solemn if that counts
>>585161206Solemn Judgement comes to mind, but i don't remember any omni negate boss monster being unbanned to my knowledge.
so what did the banlist do to ars magna elfnote? they still got photon lord and dragite
>>585161206Not a negate but a bounceHe came off with an errata.
gg dai think synchro emergency is just shit, every time i open that card it does nothing for me
GGs Common. That Synchro emergency really did nothing for you all game. It seems like it would go crazy though.
>>585162543Make sure they see less competition in the TCG :)
NeosCHADS
>>585161206Only in the OCG.
>>585162692Lmao my thoughts exactly, although maybe Angelechy is a bad matchup for it. Since half their ED summons are to their opponent's side of the field.
>keep ash around for 10 years>start putting out cards designed to ignore/play through ash>now people want ash bannedlelmao
>nownot worth a (You)
How long until Therion King Regulus and Cyber Dragon Infinity are banned?
At what point do we consider Yu-Gi-Oh! to have fallen out of the Big 3?
>>585163452Whenever One Piece came out
>>585163452half a year is more than enough to 100% confirm that one piece took the big 3 spot
I-it's the big 4 now
>>585163452one piece will never be a real game
>>585163040i think the biggest issue is that there really isn't a lot of versatility with it and i only really have 2 options (kitedrake and clear wing heavenly)if there existed a lv3 or 4 WIND synchron though it'd be gigabroken, since you could make heavenly then resummon the synchron to make clear wing rider or crystal clear
>>585163452can't wait for lorcana to beat us too
>>585163452We only lost to One Piece, a fellow 30 year old franchise and one of the biggest in the world.We didn't lose to some original IP that came out yesterday.
>>585164145one piece isn't 30 years old
>>585164557>1997It's about to be.
jumpscare
>>585163452>pokemon is still ongoing>magic is still ongoing with all the cringe ass crossover trash>one piece is still ongoingygo is doing surprisingly well considering it hasn't gotten a new anime in 7 years
>>585164946damn he drew the 1-of
Modern yugioh anime be like>I SUMMON [1-card starter]>Protag and rival yapping about plot while the rival's spreadsheet combo plays out in the background>Oh no, he made a monster negate, I held on to my nib for too long!>NEXT EPISODE: Part 2 of the rival's combo because this shit takes too long to fit into 30 minutes
>>585165498OCG Structures skips to the endboards so expect something like that in a hypothetical new show.
>>585166376What if they new yugioh show is basically just duel puzzles? It can be a puzzle of the week where a group of kids have to beat a board with the given hand or field? You can have serious enemies like the final boss to be the actual duels.
i need this
you should get handtrapped and not be able to do anything chud. it's my right to handtrap you and make sure none of your cards resolve! JUDGE, HE DIDN'T SURRENDER AFTER I ACTIVATED MY HANDTRAPS JUUUUUUDGETCGtroonbro btw
>>585163452since the start of overframes
>>585164145that's some big loser mentality lmao, next you will say it's fine to lose to dragon ball and naruto as well lmao
>>585165498I mean wasn't vrains pretty much like that? revolver vs yusaku was just both of them yapping and comboing for FIVE episodes
>>585147292At lest 2 cards for Dark Time Wizard and Umbrals.
>>585166376Don't Vanguard and the short Duel Masters anime series do this too? idk if Battle Spirits does though
>>585166720Professor Layton styled anime would work just fine, with Layton mentoring Luke. Nothing too wild, a slower paced anime. Maybe the antagonist of the week is talking about his/her life experiences. Make it a cute wholesome type of show.Or maybe a Columbo type of protag.
>>585167346It really is. Unless we mangle combo to the point 99% of it is as all or nothing as Quasar vomit. Handtraps are gay, but combo has lead to the unbreakable board shit we suffer today
>>585166720I'm surprised they haven't done Duel Puzzles but you have to try and break an endboard or something
Being handtrapped should mean you end on less, not either full combo anyway or end on nothing.Bring back chokepoints.
Final season's final episode's duel puzzle.You should be able to solve this.
>>585163452>Magic's Universe Beyond gamble workedgrim, also>The Mouse's card game is catching up quick
>>585147292this set started so strong and now looks like complete shit>Sun God underwhelming outside of the ED cards>Amazoness/Harpie meh>White Crow meh unless common is drawing them>Salamangreat cyberseslop>rikkers>ars medius slop is just adding more and more to t0.dek>buge ritual are interesting but i'm waiting to see what results it gets if any>staples/DBP support are mehthere's like nothing to talk about, at least BETB had Gallant/Space Trunade. This set needs to somehow produce a meta staple in its last 5 slots and 2 of them are already going to be Time Wizard crap
I want a romance of a 3 kingdoms Yu-Gi-Oh deck. Is there any video game I can make one on the switch two of Yu-Gi-Oh with that?
Sets being weak is bad. Sets being strong is bad.
>>585170585pass until you open exodia
>>585170843anon your power of the duelist?
>>585170274The Shadowverse anime did too, at least the first season (didn't watch Flame). Since the protagonist played Dragon, almost every duel he was in was structured to show him using Dragon Oracle to ramp on turn 2, then cut to commercial and come back on his Overflow (7PP) turn
Fox box.
Is it true we're getting a new anime announcement in December or just the announcement of another short?
why does NO ONE play mikanko now?
>>585172312Probably branded series 1 part 2 or something.
>>585172485So I shouldn't have my hopes up, got it
>>585172312Nothing is confirmed, just that YGO is gonna be on this year's Jump Festa after all after it was absent from the initial list.
>>585172312We don't even know if we're getting that much. They already announced Live Twin for the first quarter, why wait to announce more
>best selling sets are always sets with broken cards>TCG is the only region that cries about strong cards while consistently giving Konami the financial incentive to only power creeper more by making broken sets the most profitable>OCG doesnt have the TCG issue making every set cheap to make meta cheap>OCG openly accepts all the good and bad of the game insteadHmmmmmmm
India will be #1 Yugioh Superpower
>>585170585set world chalice Ib and wait for you to deck out
>>585172897We'd have the SonofTrans type vendors autistically screening about not turning a profit or some Youtuber pro still getting assblasted over jobbing.
>>585173442>setjudge???
>>585151924Solenne looks like a regional Gardevoir is it really that fucking easy? Anyway back on topic Joey card tomorrow, think it'll be good? I doubt it
>>585136640>El Grande Mago>After your 4/6 attacks, opponent thinks you're already over but...ENTER.>>585172312White Forest Loli anime.>>585162871So NeosCHADS KNEEL to this>>585163452?
>>585170843all meta staples are overframes now
>>585172897>OCG players are a bunch of cucks that lick corporate bootsad
>>585175586And expensive too. I bet the normal ones are out of stock.
>>585174512it doesn't have the chest spike so it's completely different obviously
Mimighoul snake anytime now
Goat format just had its world championship and zero Chaos Turbo decks made top 8 despite being the most popular deck. I've been saying it for a while, but meta Goat format is a more diverse format than meta Edison.
>>585165498All the newer decks are insanely efficient, that's why you can take long detours with the extra deck. A modern yugioh anime could have duels fit in one episode as long as everyone does the intended combos. Chaos Ritual ends on Black Chaos and passes
>>585170585I change ido to attack and swing, inflicting 200 LP damageNow...cards in hand?Can I read that soul drain?What the hell is safe zone?Its my end phase, I have to discard a lot of cards, this is a very difficult and time consuming decision...Annnnnnnd that's time. Lets count up life points....Hmmm, I'm at 8000, you're at 7800. Looks like I won.
>>585162668>He came off with an errata.Putas erratas as methord of fix a card is a mistake.
>>585176147I suppose, and it'd lend itself to longer duels tooA few duel puzzles where they get faced by some sort of robot, ancient guardian, spirit etc. making them break some sort of fucked-up slop endboard would be fun too as a way to tell people "yeah this is what you're gonna have to do out at your locals">>585176061Isn't modern edison insanely fast now?
>>585176061What was top 8, warrior sloppa?
we're back and all i want to say is: IT WASN'T FUCKING PURRELY SUPPORT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
are we back?the umbral horror cards were that bad huh?
sex
WE LIVED, BITCH
Bump?
>>585176835It's more that no one gives a fuck about Umbral Horrors.
so where's the dark time wizard support?
>>585176760man these cards were fucking assa rank 2 that can only be made with the new card that doesn't do anything, and a slightly improved limited barian's forcesome of the worst support I've ever seen in my life>>585176835yes
>>585177290tomorrow for sure
>>585177298its a deck that makes a floodgateso the bad support is good actually
>>585176760At least the Rush Sengejin stuff was nice to look at.
>>585177217Wasn't their new omninegate trap at least splashable?
While 4chan was down, I cooked up a goofy and fun Fusion turbo deck for GOAT format. It's not competitive at all, but it's fun as fuck to play.
The only function of the new cards is letting you add C65 so you can make THREE FLOODGATES LMAO and nothing else
I clapped when they referenced the old video games
>>585176760There's the Rank 2 stuff some thought Vector would get
What exactly is the point of the Rank 2 letting you summon a bunch of guys back but only if your opponent activates an effect
>>585178634DoTR re-release soon
>>585176760It's for isolating against Nibhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_b1-WJoVKU
Kino art.
>>585179390oh yeah i've seen thoseygorg is usually shit but these were funny
There's gotta be a better way to do this shit and maybe some more.
Give Marincess an endboard piece
>>585181280They aready have an endboard piece, what they lack is an answer to gallant or kaijus
our fuarking hero
why is rush doing memberberries
>>585176061the only reason goat has any diversity is because everyone has gentleman'd out of self destruct button and rml exodia
>>585183058RML Exodia isn't actually that good in tournys since it can't go 2nd and still fizzles occasionally going first, as well as dying to any interruption at all on RML and dying to the sidedeck.
>>585182443because they know rush is a failure that can't do anything on its own
>>585172312Be hopeful as you want. Believe you're getting a full remake of duel monsters.
anu higher res art finally was posted
why is advanced doing memberberries
glad our annual jump festa cope session is still happening if im being honestit just isn't truly the end of another year if we don't have the obligatory new anime schizopostingshoutouts to that yugioh everything guy lol
I already miss my mitsu crutch...
>>585184190my pawpad guess was right
>>585179137Kino of true
>Overframes will save Yugioh>The banlist will save Yugioh>The anime will save YugiohWhat's next?
>>585186278you will quit bitching
>>585175586I wish TCG would get them on lower rarities like UR and then Secret and their overframes versions.
Could the edomonkeys add the cards from the stream already
>>585186278Crossover setsfirst one is with konami arcades
>>585186278Yugioh is already saved
>>585176912aw hell yeah i'll wank to that!
>>585184190GOD I fucking would.
>>585182443Suffering from the same "no new anime to draw content from so game original content has to be dripfed" that the OCG is, but with less of a buffer to draw from with legacy support. Also given the director of Tag Force GX mentioned being a kid who grew up with Tag Force 3, there's probably just a lot of Konami employees working on Yugioh who are nostalgic in general
>>585187440This season Konami is working on an anime called Nia Liston, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a promo card or two.
This is why Kashtira should stay banned.
>>585186278The needs to make a complete adaptation of the OG Yu-Gi-Oh manga! Nostalgia sells! and they won't need to do filler or shorten essential arcs
>>585186278death of yugioh
>>585186278Yugioh is doing fine in the OCG, TCG land though is a different story
>>585189891You do realize Yugioh is also consistently 3rd-4th place in the OCG too right
Magistus Stories chapter 18https://imgur.com/gallery/ocg-stories-chapter-18-gkP8wkc
>>585190213NTA but as you can see on the graph, there are a fuck ton of TCG in Japan, also being tied with DM for second place isn't a bad spot to be.
>>585189891this is 2nd-hand sales specifically in japan and even then its in 3rd.
>>585189891>>585190467Secondhand sales on specifically that website, at that
her boyfriend is in jail :(
>>585190424>September 2026 salesOkay so can you show Yugioh consistently tying for second in sales in Japan and not just this one month
>>585190839Japan got a lot of TCGs, I can name around 20 from the top of my head, being in the first 5 spots constantly isn't a bad place to be, specially with how shit the meta is on OCG.
>>585190291>blue boy summons tidal and swords of concealing lightsHUHi guess we're getting a retrain for blue boy
>>585190814>white woman>black bf/husband in jailpottery
>>585190291why are there so many batels, I don't remember the Spellbook/Prophecy monster swarming card. Also support for those two WHEN, last Spellbook (that wasn't actually a charmer card) was 8 years ago
>>585190291Blue boy bring able to summon a dragon ruler is neat
>>585191080>blue boy retrain>you can special summon 1 lvl7 dragon or search a cont spell from your deck
>>585191039>>585191080blue boy remembers 2013
>>585190814i hope he gets raped while he's in there, fuck branded, had it good for way too long
HaineHaine sex
>>585190291>5 blue boysJUDGE
Cute verre
>stream support still not inman what the fuck are those edoniggers even doing
>>585191080i need more of this this sort of stuff is too far in between ygo has so many cool monsters that would benefit from appearing randomly alongside other archetype stories
favorite monster :)
>>585191967OCG Chronicles and Stories would probably benefit deeply from actually trying to interconnect card lore as part of a grander multiverse and attempting to actually connect card mechanics as some sort of power system
Was swords of concealing light play at some point?
>>585192061he couldn't afford blaster ;(
>>585192214Konami doesn't really seem to want to do that anymore since with some exceptions they like to keep everything separate these days
>>585181623>Here's Johnny!
>>585192282Most solders were using fire magic
We can save Yugioh by publicly executing /dng/'s furtrannies and diapertrannies. Prove me wrong
>>585192282blue boy is blue so he likes the blue dragonsimple as
>>585192214yeah you could do some random shit like>aliens vs kash>k9 vs dinomorphia >hero world
>>585192282he wouldn't be able to use blaster since they're different attributesblue boy is water
>konami knew the new umbral horror cards suck, so they killed the thread
>>585181280She jobs to much. She doesn't deserve it.>>585189891Cuz' OCG is the true game anon. Meanwhile TCG is Konami's cat litter box.
>>585192948his summon attributes don't have to match, he summoned stuff like lost guardian before
Win a framed artwork of the Dark Magician Knights
She's hiding.
I don't know why but I hate how endymion is draw in the manga
>>585193184>retarded nigger thinks the OCG isn't also on the downtrend
>>585193304Anon...The Rulers banish either Dragons or their own attribute to summon themselves
>>585192282he's saving blaster ;) for the finale when he has to go all out
>give Umbral Horror actual extension?>nah just give it the ability to make a third floodgateraoul
>>585193597the guardian is earth so there's no consistency for the summoned monsters
>>585181280Give marincess a floodgate for tributing
Are all cards canon, can Batel/etc. summon cards from anywhere? Could he summon Lovely Labrynth and make her give me a blowjob paizuri combo?
>>585191265genesys' powerlevel should be druler vs spellbook format
>>585193765Anon I don't know how to spell it out any more than that. Batel is a WATER monster, so Tidal can banish him for its own effect to summon itself. It was a joke
>>585194036there's probably a size limit like he wouldn't be able to summon star eater or dark hole dragon
>>585194429Could he summon a Yummy Snatchy and crane game grab the enemy away?
>>585194542I will ask Yoshida the next time I see him.
>we will never get the raise moon casino getting shut down by the k9s for money extortion i hate it
>>585194723thank you. definitely ask about the Lab paizuri thing, love you anon
>>585192061FUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, BLASTER, MY FUARKING RULER, I KNEEL.
>>585196656WHEN'S* BLASTER
When's the next YCS? I need some tourny to watch...
>>585197159Orlando soon... I'll win.
>>585197605what are you running
>>585189891TCGcucks are only suited to play negative IQ games like mtg, pokemon, one piece and other mtg knockoffs. The fact the west has produced so many mtg knockoffs over the span of 10+ years tells a lot about what an average TCGcuck looks like: a bunch of retards with simple minds wanting to play a simple game
>>585198060Can you tell us how many Japanese TCGs aren't Duel Masters ripoffs out of curiosity
>>585197159Just watch DBgrinder
>>585196656that's not blaster, illiterate unplayer
>>585198060Can you post the OCG winning a single post-COVID Worlds
how to resist the urge to want to beat the shit out of your opponent as they combo off at locals?
What's the best deck at the moment? I want to get back into the game and win most of my games, then gradually shift to a rogue deck for more fun games. But it seems to be a RPS situation with ROLAD and Angelechy so IDK
>>585199124Angelechy
>>585199118oh hey lenny how you doin
>>585198534I made a typo, i asked WHEN's blaster here>>585196797I need to see the fire prophecy guy summon a blaster.
They forgot to ban this.
>>585199486which word was supposed to be when? none of those are close and the end of the sentence wouldn't make sense if it's a question
>>585199181Gonna watch some vids on youtube to learn the deck, thanks anon
>>585199665activate E4receive winit's not that complex
>>585198024idk yet but i'll let you know
>>585199790I was just watching a video on it and E4 is so fucking stupid
>>585200190yeah it's meta for a reasonat least it's an interesting/unique gameplay instead of comboslop #45543567
>>585199790>Activate E4>Get Ogre'd>Get Ash'd>Get Impulse'd>Get F&V'dThere's too many counters for this deck to sit on the throne.
>>585200558What's the intended use for this one?
>>585200309What deck is as strong but more resilient to handtraps?
>>585200741Fanservice because there is no way in hell you're ever making it over 65 or C65Also Malicevorous/Star Seraph support when
A-Anon....W-Where is Dark Time Wizard you promise to me?
>>585201315It will be revealed today since 22nd of October is the anniversary of "Jonouchi Dies" episode in Japan
So, Soul and Pride reveals right after Immortal Phoenix? There's no side set in between right?
>>585191080'member DRuler vs SpellbookARE THEY GOING TO MAKE DRULER/SPELLBOOK CROSSOVER CARD????
>>585201682>ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE DRULER/SPELLBOOK CROSSOVER CARD????I hope so that would be cool as fuck
>>585201682enemies to lovers
>>585201528Are we going to get >JOEY FUCKING DEADScreenshot as a card?
>>585201875>>585201784>>585201682How would they even make DRuler Spellbook Crossover?Spellbook of Dragon Ruler?Blueboy can search any spellbook, so might as well be
>>585202928aleister pov
>>585201904We already got it on a shirt, so why not
So, if Konmai actually give us Magician Girl supportWill Kiwi finally becoming Girl too?Magician Girl, not Magician Hag
>>585201610>●Legendary Duel Selection (Nov 12)>●Original Duel Set Yugi/Kaiba/Joey (End of Oct)>●Revolution Booster: Cubic / Marincess / Ghostrick (Nov 21)>●The Chronicles Deck DX: Magistus (Dec 5)>●Dark Side of Dimensions 10th Anniversary Movie Box (Dec 19)>●Premium Pack 2027 (Dec 21)
Are we getting reveals for Kaiba's set next month?
Only 3 cards left.
>>585203612man i don't care about anything in this set
>>585200271Literally stun but they can go turn 0, no different than setting 4 (Skill Drain, Solemn Judgment, Summon Limit, Crackdown) and revealing Lord of the Heavenly Prison
>being mad about crackdown in 2026
>>585203612Dark Time Wizard might be getting another Fusion
>>585203612>power of the duelist>ars magus t0 slop>maybe buge ritual...and endless packfiller.
I just realized Yugipedia's actually still down because of the PHP stuff.
>>585200271>Angelechy >interestingIt's stun but with turn 0, how is that interesting?. If this was a Trap deck it would have people screaming for bans.
The holy Trinity of Reddit decksOdionEnneacraft Clown Crew AngelechyWhen I see those fake sovl gimmicky decks I do a 360 and walk away
>>585203215Fuck
Hey
>>585205180Hi.
>>585203897Thousand dragon or insect queen
>>585203612Can 022 beat Goemon?
>>585204738>WAAH WAAH I CANT GO +30kys srsly
>>585207497pretty sure the "goemon" in this set is heretic eradicator, the normal support bnuuy counts as generic
Why can't all archetypes be gud so the game becomes balanced? Why make new ones instead?
time wizard amirite
Good?
An OCG guy asked me why black magician was changed to dark magician and I'm not sure how to answer him...
>>585201315>>585201528>>585201904>>585203051>Ra got Harpie NTR for support >they're going to give Joey support on the anniversary of when he got cucked by Marik's plot armor They'd be crazy for that but I hope we get to see a new Thousand Dragon or Swordsman of Landstar tomorrow.
>>585208634So what's the problem?
>>585200845it's only as strong as it's pilot, but paleo is virtually unphased by handtraps.
>>585208634>black magicjust say religious censorship. that's the obvious answer.
I don't like when the Konami banlists try to "balance" but not to "preserve" the decks.Elfnote should be about summoning June Pride then tagging into Lucina, Tinia and Fortuna, but then they banned Tinia.I'd take bigger hits in order to preserve the core design of the deck.
I struggle a lot against Yuma.deck because they have a seemingly endless amount of extenders and don't seem to care if either xyz magician gets negated. What should I actually be disrupting, if handtraps work against the deck at all?I really wish I had 3x Purulia
>>585212967Okay gook faggot.Now kys
>>585208634because he isn't black obviously.
>>585208634Out of all the censorship decisions made by Konami, this one is probably the most harmless since dark and black are so similar. Just tell him the christian church of KoA has no tolerance for heresy.
>>585213305You want to do what you can to stop the rank up magic spell from going off, either when they use the ZS guy to XYZ a Utopia to search it, or impulsing the rank up itself. The deck is also famously pretty weak to nibiru because there's nothing stopping you from activating him before their somewhat clear choke points.Also all their guys search off detatching, so typically speaking, the first XYZ magician they bring out tends to be bait.Pic related is the guy you wanna get rid of at all costs.
is yugioh finished?
can branded FUCK OFF for once?
>>585213805>The deck is also famously pretty weak to nibiruThe last three times I've drawn Nibiru against this deck, they forced the rock with Future and played through it.
>>585213837Why is Azamina Elzette with BLS used to represent other?
>>585214215Because you like men
>>585214035Why? They're fair and balanced
>>585214326No, anon, I like women
>>585214489Not after they got Fallen of the Custom Card and Fallen & the Custom Card
>>585214494And we like little girls. They are not the same
WHEN WILL WE GET BIG BLACK Cyclop ARCHTYPE????
>>585214662We are not the same>NeosIsMyHusbandBR spreads his cheeks wide open in ranked ladderWe are more similar than we previously thought
>>585214804>>585181623
>>585118883What the FUCK is that thing? Is it related to Poplar?
>>585215061That IS Poplar. We knew from the concept art that it began to develop legs after the events of the first Sinful Spoils arc. Now it's similar to that of a small child.
>>585215040That's Hitotsume Giant
>>585214035No. Despite they're constant whining about the hits, you're still going to see branded decks. The limits did barely anything and they have replacements for Albion. It's only the splashable F&V engine that died.
>>585214804The unloved child that gets nothing.
>>585215456they are friends
>>585213837Is Raise Moon comboslop?
>>585215724Mementolan version eventually
So, why did Konmai never making Bombergirl archtype?
>>585176760so bad holy shit
>>585216805they won't put actual solid snake or the other metal gear characters in the game, why are you surprised?
>>585214494Funny how someone who looks so evil was actually a nice and caring sensei to lost children
>>585215903no, but it is very annoying to play against regardless
your first impressions on the new meta? Is the gameplay better?
>>585221476>Is the gameplay better?Yeah I dont have to side in cards to kill rogue decks because Konami killed them for me LMAO
>>585221476No branded, so its a step in the right direction
>>585221476medius slop still broken they just moved the pieces around60 ROLAD Mitsu DM slop decks are fucking dead. i don't care if it wasn't the best, that shit was fucking annoying, draw droll or bustAngelechy lost its competition so is just omnipresent, it's like having another Floo type deck back in the game where the gameplay is dealing with obtuse 4D chess (literally)random ass decks (and the good ones too) aren't quartet zenna into infinite advantage/locks/etc. so that part is nicenot a fan of droll to 1 but at least I'm getting hit with it less, in theory. Branded wasn't that good but now I don't have to see F&V in every deck and that's nice, but it was already on its way out, just my opinion. Opening was overkill wtf lol that's one of the only fair ones, it locked, hit the Albaz retrain.Already seeing people playing Dracotail again because Secreterion is nice right now. Hilarious that K9 and now Yummy have been erased from history but the spells to 1, incidental Branded hits, and some non-hits are all Draco's had to deal with. No ROLAD in the meta means their non-target pops are broken again.it was a decent attempt at a list but we're just stuck with more of the same. If they really wanted to earn some respect they would've at least given angelechy a love tap. They also failed to recognize Elfnote is good because of the engine, not the generic shit it goes into, and they've already moved onto new ED bosses (and still have ars magna cards). It's hard not to feel like the list is lacking when they left Number 90 alive to push Ars Magna. That card is easier to make than CWSD and got deliberately ignored, fucking stupid.
>>585221476Tourneyfags are celebrating over end bosses getting banned when the combo decks that were summoning them all were mostly unaffected. We wouldn't have had to ban every good negate (singular, Apollousa is a cunt that deserves to stay in the forbidden rape dungeon) if we didn't have such powerful combo engines to begin with. We've been running around in circles since Snake-Eye and Yubel format and have learned nothing.The ONLY good ban last weekend that wasn't a floodgate or FTK enabler was Habakiri. Why? Because it was a one card starter. We desperately need more cards like these on the banlist. Not on the semi-limited list, not on the limited list, the forbidden list. Ban the fucking starters.
>>585221476>Is the gameplay better?No meta calcified further but now you just wont see weaker decks even pop up as often at tournaments because the good meta decks can eat the hits while weak decks that relied on generic endboard pieces cant pivot to shit. It's almost as if people keep being told this and dont seem to understand this. How the fuck are even OCG players aware of the direction of our banlist?
>>585222459but how can I fit 25 handtraps if every combo requires 2card minimum
FREE MY BOY
>>585222852>summon zalenhey he's not just a link climb tool anymorelet's bring back linkcross too
>>585221476The strong shit remainded strong, the weak shit died completely.
>>585222935Linkross can never come back because of Yum->Cupsyway banstill, let's not give them any ideasAlso E4 needs a limit or eventual ban. it's hilarious how bad that deck is going 2nd without it, or going first taking fire from any of the compatible handtraps.
>>585221476Retarded niggers like >>585222459 who dont realize their logic leads to only shilled archetypes being represented and any other non-shilled archetype being killed so the shilled archetype shines. Metatrannies just got their desired meta.
>>585222459You have to remember that tourneyfags love powercreep above all elseThey don't want a healthy game, they want a format close to their vaunted tear 0 as close as possible, and if that means engines that can make any board they want off of one card, if that means rummaging around in the bulk bin to find some old zexal-era card that says "negate" because every other good negate got banned, and if that means the ability to make EVERY card a 1-card starter either because the archetype is an abomination of card design (tear) or because you have a million out of theme bridges to get to what you want (ishizu millers) then so be it
>>585223210>tourneyfags want diversity so their t0 can dominate the gameNigga hitting all the "weird tech" always enforces t0 more times than not. This HUGE BANLIST only made it so tourneyfags and their meta decks see less challengers not more.
>>585223310we're in agreement, learn2read
Huh who the fuck is trying to push the notion that competitive metatroons want more decks being represented? Metatroons are the ones trying to fucking kill any representation that isnt the current meta deck. Metatroons hate having to slot in shit in the side deck to account for more than 2 deck encounters. Meta decks can eat huge generic bans, rogue/pet decks can not.
>print splashable archetype >little to no restriction or locks for using themwhy do they keep doing this
>>585223664$
>>585223151Shilled archetypes happen regardless you inbred neanderthal. Moving back to a 2 card combo structure will lead to an objectively healthier game, but you clearly can't even remember a couple years to that time as post-POTE has given you CTE.Take that Samsara D out of your mouth for five seconds and start asking for meaningful changes, or you're going to find yourself back in the comment section of the yearly josh crashout vid.
i hate bootlickua schmitt so much
>>585223664Money, moolah, green boys
>>585223210>tear 0Everyone that praises the tear mirror (including myself) liked it because of the interactive gameplay and explicitly say they would have liked to see more decks play like that so we could have had a diverse format with similar gameplay. I've never seen anyone say the liked it because it was a one deck format. They liked the gameplay, not the lack of deck diversity.
>>585223664Because it helps alleviate the need to make support for archetypes that would otherwise get ignored?
>>585223664I don't understand why Konami don't make more attribute or type focused splashable cards instead to facilitate a "water deck" or "machine deck' that isn't just 80% one archetype.
>>585224893Nobody likes fiendslop
>>585224753This. No matter how top tier a deck is, you can only sell so much of it. Agnostic packages with way less cards sell as many packs as a fully featured archetype due to how pack distribution goes, and sometimes people will even buy multiple copies of packages even.
>>585224893Because then you get retarded niggers like the ones in this thread that will cry for their eternal banishment because "theyre one card starters" or what not since they will also help the current shilled deck. Konami is playing a balancing game between making sure they can shill a deck to sell a set while also trying to give enough "tools" to people who are dedicated to their decks. That being said OCG players tend to accept the cancerous result of this balancing act alongside their cheap buy in to the game meaning it only really becomes an issue of financial incentive that the TCG can suffer to subsidize the game further for the Japanese.
People would be more willing to accept that this game should be treated as a kusoge if we had Japanese prices on product as well as rarity distribution in sets.
how many steps in the right direction will have bros? how many more years of the right step in the right direction?
>>585225427its a BIG win broall we need now is konami to change their approach to card design now (this will never happen)
>>585225248Stop posting
>its another thread of one guy claiming the cards that need to be banned are the one he claims but he doesnt try to prove it with a custom banlist tournament seriesMan if only we havent seen multiple NMT series :)
>>585225427all it takes is one bored day at the office for Japan to fuck our lives up. The remaining IMPH slots seem geared towards Joey + some other attempt at a staple in 022 so we're safe, but Pride and Soul could easily have some generic SS from deck/dump/revive card that makes Zenna Quartet look like ass next to it. We had a pretty good thing going for like a year after banning some shit like Apol/Savage/Baronne and then look what they railroaded us with. DMOD Quartet and Zenna all came out back to back and we lost the plot
>print "balanced" cards>japs complain about GX era esque stagnation (and will probably blame the tcg)>print "badonken" cards>tcg complains that the game has lost its competitive integrity (the airfryers... have fallen)game is cursed tbqh
>>585225427No number of "right directions" will "save" this game and bring it to the supposed healthy state people want it in. It wasnt healthy in 2013, it wasnt healthy in 2017, it wasnt healthy in 2022 and it isnt healthy now. You'd think "Huh this game has never really had a healthy game state and has always been balls to the walls shit flinging" for more than 2 decades would give retards a clue about the kind of game this is. Reminder that this Banlist with its 34 hits did actually smack the shit out of many cards people had issue with but in no world did it even push the needle into more decks being able to breathe more, it led to decks that were already in power having even less decks to worry about.
>>585224753Alleviating the need to print support for a 6 waves lore deck
>>585225868The issue is the "balanced" cards dont sell sets in the TCG either. The "badonken" cards are what push the most popular sets in the TCG as well so its really just OCG players just wading in the good and bad while the TCG players settling on one desired meta deck and then calling everything else bad design while continually buying up the sets that are even more power creep while letting "balanced" sets to rot on shelves.
>>585225936If you want them to stop focusing so much on archetypes you'll get generics that apply to everything and arent archetype bound and probably even more universal. Then the complaints will be "muh SLOP its not SOUL like GX". If then you go back to archetype support you'll cry that certain decks arent getting attention and it'll just be a flip flop between both.
>we want going second to be good >nooooooo ban or limit e4 we deserve to be treated as pigs
>>585225990I don't even mind powercreep, I just wish the broken cards they made weren't almost always omni-negates and floodgates. Crazy shit is fine as long as they let both players do it.
>>585224893but marincess is right there.
>>585224893Because Merlantean gets people comically madHow the fuck did Moulinglacia avoid getting banned
>Genesys doesnt ban cards that arent trannydulums or Links>make every strong card cost something from your point value>most cards that are fine are 0>already has better deck diversity at the competitive level than AdvancedIts hilarious because it quite literally addresses the issue with the banlist, hell shifting Advanced to Points would also force them consistently update the point values with every new set. Hell doesnt Duel Links even have a lite version of this where limit/semi works where you can run 2 or 1 cards from the list rather than just 1-2 copies of each card on that list?
>>585226240i rather accept reality than being trapped in the illusion of play for multiple turns
>>585226385>Angelechy vs Blitzclique>Diverse metaLMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>585226385Honestly been playing Genesys because I can freely play WF and Trains without issue. I dont even fret when I see Angelechy because I still feel like I can fucking win.
>>585226385a point system is inherently a better way to manage a tcg metagame as you have more fine grained control, can do something similar to complex/composite bans, and decks feel less solved because there are more levels to be pulledthe problem is that it's a pain in the ass to manage, and as soon as you get something wrong (ie you underpoint new decks, like it happened with angelechy) you ruin everything. they should just point every new card very aggressively and gradually insert them in the meta via point reductions in subsequent lists
>>585226605You're freely playing WF and trains because you are playing against bad players, not because you are playing Genesys.
>>585225868Wouldn't be problem if TCG wouldn't fiance the OCG's card prizes.As long as 3rd worldie and japs pay half the price as we do, the TCG will never be tired of complainig
>>585226871>(ie you underpoint new decks, like it happened with angelechy)Funny enough they're for sure going to fuck over Blitz and Angelechy come next set release.
>>585226378We've been alive since 2013 and we'll continue to stay alive until 2033, metas may come and go but moulinglacia and dragoons will always be at 3trust the plan
>>585227093they address problems fast but if they regularly mess up on every new release they're perpetually going to be one step behind a balanced metagame. as much as I love the format, I'm not happy about back to back avoidable problems in the form of sacred beasts and now angelechy
>>585226871>>585226385>the problem is that it's a pain in the ass to manageI think the duel links system is the best middle ground. You can prevent busted combos yet don't have to over think allocating points.
>>585227628That just translate to>limit 1: Every cards in here worth 51 points - Pool A>limit 2: Worth 34 points - Pool B>limit 3: Worth 26 points - Pool CYou can use all 3 pool while deckbuilding, 100 pts each.
>>585226904WF literally has quite a few tops in the last couple of Genesys events, despite its heavy pointing
>>585226904>rogue decks that have seen play in tournaments >ermm you're bad It's funny how often unplayers out themselves
I still don't get the point of the Cross-Sheep ban after killing RoLaD AzaminaPeople argue that it's a ticking time bomb, but I don't see how problematic a card that>Requires you to use fusions to climb>Needs you to not be fusion locked>Is intended to climb towards high power link payoffs (Which are mostly banned anyway)Could even be
>>585229445The TCG cattle hate good cards.
>>585229445i just think the sheep looks gay, and i was tired of looking at it
we need to keep banning cards until josh can win events again sisters
>>585227921No it doesn't. The duel links system means the limit 1 cards don't restrict how many you take from the limit 2 or limit 3 (btw theres no real reason limit 4 and beyond categories couldn't exist). The system you describe makes cards in different categories needlessly intertwined when the entire point is putting cards that are a problem together in the same category.
>>585229606What was the format last time he won something?
>>585229606>>585229945>britroons talking about their trannytubersIt's all so tiresome
>>585229945Yugi-Kaiba
Hmmmm
>>585230008please get help (or talk to your family at least)
>>585229945>>585230014>>585230116Huh..... All these messages are nearly split apart from each other by the same amount of time give or take a second.
>>585230194>known UK samefagging duo samefagDid you know the sky is blue?
Will this card ever be useful?
>>585230553was fun in mitsu ogdo :(
>>585230553>Unsearchable>Requires a discard>POTENTIALlol no
>MUH SNAK RAIN POTENTIALGet in the line, chump
>>585230776this shit goes hard in merlanteanwhich, fair enough, is a rogue deck but its a rogue deck that makes people VERY mad
>>585230776I love me some theoretically broken GX cards that aren't actually broken
>>585230194kys
Trif is the only one who knows what he's talking about because he actually tops, but nobody cares because he's a pendnigger who won't shut the fuck up about selling his master class
>potentialman
