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Visual Novel General #7977

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

Previous thread: >>585053906
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Lessons in Love was so good....
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I fucking love swords
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>>585114481
baggy bra? new fetish?
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we posting shirou tonight?
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Shirou solos John Connor btw
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no MUMBAImasa below this post
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>>585114481
I FUCKING LOVE WHITE WOMEN!
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beating my meat rn
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>>585114481
chest too big
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Can we stop calling each other mongs? It’s rude
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VNs on the fediverse:

#visualnovel #narrativegame
(hashtags to follow on Mastodon)

!visualnovels@ani.social
!otomegames@ani.social
!vndev@discuss.tchncs.de
!renpy@discuss.tchncs.de
!adventuregames@retrolemmy.com
(lemmy groups)

In Japanese:
https://misskey.doujin.games
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>>585115301
I agree mong
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#killalltrannies
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>>585115085
Replace Arcueid with Lise.
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>>585115394
Eat shit.
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>>585115394
>stein
She's not white.
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>>585115394
No. Die.
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>>585115505
Most white people are brown anyways
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>>585115394
Kill yourself.
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KINOmasa
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>>585115385
dull...........
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>>585115553
>ooo ooo aa aaa
Eat a banana.
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>kys
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>>585115691
Your mom enjoys eating my banana
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Why do you think gacha have won over VNs? Surprise me with your cleverness! You are clever, aren't you?
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zaaaaaato zaaaato zato zato zaaaaaaaaaaaato
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>>585115747
Don't be so indian.
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>>585115893
Actually you are the indian.
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>>585115769
ask astra
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>kissing a girl after she sucked other's dick
Is this true love?
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>>585116029
Only after she has sucked my dick
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>>585116029
no that's an indirect kissu and you are gay
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This line is so kino its making me want to actually insert it into text proper everytime I see it in my folders.
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>kissing the heroine immediately after she blows you
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>>585115361
Cute.
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Who'll be top1 nakige writer after Maeda dies?
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>>585115394
Kill yourself
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Good afternoon /vn/ hope alls well
>>585115085
Eternal Chris love
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>>585116352
God.
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>>585116352
Won't change. Niijima Yuu.
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>>585116432
MHBST
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>>585115394
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>>585115361
>there was a time when Taiga actually made Shirou blush
Her short hair really is a boner killer.
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>>585116512
HFK
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>>585115893
>>585115923
Don't fight brothers!
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KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
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>>585116432
He lost competition even among anemoi writers tho.
top 1 nakiroute there was written by complete newbie
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>>585116432
Who?
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>>585116707
The guy that wrote Subahibi, Muramasa and Steins;Gate
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https://vndb.org/v12167
Better MTL when?
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>>585116897
when you stop being a lazy fuck https://mtlwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Fixing_existing_TLs
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>>585116831
>kino, dogshit and kino
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>>585116982
Can I suggest something for the wiki? How about a guide on prostate stimulation?
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[Continue fighting].
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>>585117057
i think that's more of a topic for the HTLwiki
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Just finished Muramasa.
Who ever said that a dumb libtard cuck can't be chuuni as fuck?!
If you ignore all of his moralfagging and the retarded leftist propaganda he constantly forces down your throat, Kageaki is actually pretty cool when he's not getting cucked or humbled.
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>>585116352
The medium is dead moegeslop will continue flooding it and all that will be left is incels jerking off
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>>585117296
Kageaki is pro interracial racemixing with dark skin males and light skin women
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>>585117361
nakige are moe-adjacent tho
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>>585117210
Nah I am serious and I have a good reason for that. Now that eops have access to more jopge they will want to experience the same things jops do. According to multiple surveys, women feel more satisfied when having sex with other women since those women are better at exciting their G spot. The prostate is the man’s G spot and using it will lead to an experience unlike anything else. Jops know that. Convinced?
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>>585116831
>kino, kino and dogshit
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>>585117490
nakige is also for majority incels, utsuge is the sex haver medium, key is an incel company
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>>585117510
>>585117210
>>585117057
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>>585117624
What if I used to have sex, but not anymore? What should I read?
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jops have BBC dildos, eops are straight
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>>585117624
are you that one setoguchifag?
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>>585117776
If you haven't had sex in one year you are closer to an incel so definitely moe slop
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>>585117776
Maruto-ge
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>>585116432
>0 good games
*yawn*
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>>585116831
>dogshit, kino and kino
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>>585117487
That's chuuni.
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Waiting for Setoguchi-sama to save the medium in 2027.
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>>585116831
>dogshit, dogshit and dogshit
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All vns ever made were written by the same guy.
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>>585117361
>The medium is dead moegeslop will continue flooding it
Did you read Akiba Lost?
If not why you're not supporting large ambitious high-production value plotge to save this medium
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>>585117296
>>585117487
two brown uminegro troons from rokkenjima
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>>585118271
>3dpd
comeonnow.jpg
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>>585118271
>large ambitious high-production value plotge
Is this a joke
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>>585118316
>negromasa melty
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>>585118336
>I need 2D bishoujo illustrations for PLOTGE
things closeted moebutas say. accept yourself
>>585118340
It objectively is
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She's a nightmare
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>>585118518
>It objectively is
A random gacha mogs that crap
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>>585118518
I just need 2D, I don't care about anything else. I want every 3d creature to die (I go last, of course)
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>>585118596
By what criteria
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>>585116432
Summer Pockets
>common route
>Shiroha
>Kamome
>ALKA
anemoi
>Spica
>Aino

Can't comment on anemoi b/c I haven't read it, but Shiroha & Kamome's routes were one of the weaker routes in Summer Pockets.

Also, AIgods MTL the Einstein VN plox.
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>>585118518
If it'll be all-ages it should at least have cute girls to make up for it instead of 3dpd trash
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>>585118803
>Also, AIgods MTL the Einstein VN plox.
https://mtlwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Free_MTL_Tutorial
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There's a Hearts of the Woods key to "win" on /r/yurivisualnovels. Studio Élan is the one OELVN maker I think is up to JVN standards.
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>>585118979
You're forgetting Selebus
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IFLWW
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>>585118862
>at minium you're going to need Claude's $20/month tier
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give me something to nuke my usage on
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>>585118979
>Studio Élan is the one OELVN maker I think is up to JVN standards.
That would be Selebus
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MUMBAImasa
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>>585118271
I liked Akiba Maid war. Are they related?
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>>585119012
Ema panties
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>>585119047
you are retarded. the link says FREE and that guide uses FREE ai and harness

sasuga ludditor
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>>585116982
>MTL guide doesn't explain the most important step of character voice setup or any proper guidelines regarding it
For how much you use MTL you aren't very bright huh
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I would destroy flood in a fight irl.
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>>585119080
you go claude 5.5? I wanted to compare writing style on around 28 lines of text to what I have kept from gemini 3.1
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>>585119443
you don't know english, but.
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>>585118979
EVNs can't be good.
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>>585119443
>it's blind
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>>585119080
i can give you xlsx with machi's script, ready to be translated
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>>585119572
Wrong
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>>585119572
Except Lessons in Love.
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>>585119618
? It doesn't say anywhere in that image to establish character voices or any rules regarding character register.
The only thing ur guide mentions is a glossary and a story summary. The entire thing is also way too fucking long and recommends deepseek of all models, you might aswell point people to google translate
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KINOmasa
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>>585119817
click the hyperlink
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>>585119392
Nothing is free in this world, stupid goy.
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>>585119017
>>585119086
>>585119572
>>585119726
all of these posts are wrong
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>>585119572
This for yuri. They’ll turn somethung made for the male gaze into some slop about female rights.
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REMINDER THAT LOLICONS WILL NEVER BE WELCOMED HERE.
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>>585119998
you are low iq
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>>585120008
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>>585119862
You think anyone reading that guide will click the hyperlink AND also read whatever the fuck is this slop of a prompt (which you should never use, its way too fucking long) which still does not mention character voices?
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Fuck your character voices Astra is smarter than u
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>>585120145
see >>585120231
stop ruining perfectly fine TLs without your special "flair", but.
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>>585120145
>does not mention character voices?
are you dumb
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>>585115218
Better?
https://files.catbox.moe/bl7l4o.png
(it took me good five minutes to find that catbox link, so you better appreciate it!)
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>>585119526
There's no such thing as claude 5.5. mtlbros and the entire target audience for commercial AI seem to be too lazy and dumb to even understand the difference between models, agents or other frontends, and web sites.
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>>585120443
it just works
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>>585120341
>he thinks constraining the model with vague personality shitslop is the correct way to go about this
>no mention of what a casual speaker should sound like compared to a rough one or degrees of formal speech
lol
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>>585120443
I meant opus 5.5, grasp thought shortcuts baka
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>>585120513
it just works
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Are the Neko-nin ExHeart games any good? Pic related.
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>>585120654
slop
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>>585120640
It hasn't worked for oretsuba, it hasn't worked for schwarzesmarken
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>>585120730
but.
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>>585120640
Todd Howard, what are you doing here?
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>>585120573
you left out the important bit, 5.5 could also refer to sonnet retard
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NEGROmasa
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Butt.
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>>585120730
Provide some examples
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Vinnies where MC or one of main heroines has magical thinking?
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>>585120730
Schwarzesmarken tl bad? That's disappointing I thought it could work out.
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>>585120816
they translate the same, you are low iq
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>>585120984
it's good, he's just an ESL
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>>585121019
And he doesn't know Japanese.
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How do you answer
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Oretsuba is kino. If you disagree, a pack of bandits should grape you.
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>>585121121
Yes *hugs her*
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>>585120837
This scene was absolutely necessary
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>>585118862
Glad you liked + saw it floodbro
>>585119817
The point is to be simple and universal. Character voice gets too specific since what you actually want to do is specify voices for each individual character on a specific project. I can superficially edit the prompt to mention it though just to make you feel better.
>too long
It's the bare minimum of steps (minus the optional QC step) and it appears long because it is filled with images. It's written for someone totally new the process; for them it will be helpful to have so many images and for each step to be explained. Obviously someone who already is familiar with MTL will look at a step-by-step beginner guide and feel it is too long.
>recommends deepseek
The guide explicitly says DeepSeek is not great at translation and is only being used because it's the best free model available through free and open means (e.g. not needing to make a GPT account or whatever else). Someone can play around with it at 0 cost or investment then move up to the big boy models after learning their way around LLM translation.
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>>585121019
I think you're throwing around ESL too often as an insult. It can only be meant as an insult though if you're a non-native speaker insisting on your machine translation, AIsir.
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DeepSeek? How about you Seek what’s Deep in your anus? Plot twist: It’s my penis.
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>>585121336
Beware
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>>585121650
i'm talking about AIsir
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>Utawarerumono spoiler
>Shunya have to erase herself from existence to save everyone ending
So everything that happened during the past two games are irrelevant for uta 2 and 3? Or so it seems.
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Aisir's worst trait is his obsessive criticism of all translations outside of his own, paired with his retard ESL brain making all of his TL evaluations complete dogshit. There's a reason people mock his MTL patches relentlessly while praising basically everyone else, yet he can't understand this process and still genuinely believes he has good takes on translation.
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>>585119817
>The entire thing is also way too fucking long and recommends deepseek of all models, you might aswell point people to google translate
holy dishonest, but.
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>>585121734
who could've seen this coming
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>>585120353
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Why is Muramasa so good?
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>>585122213
swords
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>>585121706
Well, that explains few things...
>>585122213
traps
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Pornoge always kamige: unless it was created by gaijin. Got it.
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>>585121428
>Glad you liked + saw it floodbro
yeah, this is the main guide now, just leave the old one linked for reference. if i had to nitpick
>but maybe in 2 years free models will be Opus 5.5 level
1 year*, current deepseek is on the same level of the best closed model from 1 year ago, and that's assume the pace of improvement won't go vertical next year
>Put simply, in the process of translating a game, the model will need to narrow its focus to a range of, let's say, 200-300~ nearby lines at any given time. The context window just doesn't allow it to "remember" the entire game at once. Meanwhile, an AI doing a QC pass doesn't need to focus on the actual act of translation, and may be able to widen its focus to keep track of 2,000~3,000~ lines at once.
i don't really agree with this, but not because it's not needed and because ai does get lazy, but because this is (and should) be handled by the harness, not by the user. if you read thought while using codex, it will explicitely write that it translate in small chunk based on how much context it has and stuff. basically it knows better than you how much it can translate at once, so i don't think it's worth interfering. especially considering that the further we go the more these models/harness are improved towards autonomous goal completion, so even if now it may be needed for dumber models on shittier harness, repeating the prompt and instructing on the chunks thing definitely won't be needed next year

the don't be lazy and translate manually is still needed tho, because if you ask to translate as a professional would, even sota models start using deepl and then doing a qc pass, kek
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>>585121998
While that's a nice drawing, it's physically impossible for the brick wall not to have collapsed like that (unless it's supposed to play in an US theme park, which sure isn't an uncommon environment for adventure games).
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>deepl
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floodcuck*
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>>585122213
NTR
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>>585123034
floodGOD*
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pinkgod
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>>585123063
They should have a MAO NAO segment where every few lines that get translated result in a game crash or extreme formatting error.
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>>585120816
no one sane uses sonnet
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>find several hidden kamige that look they'll perfectly match my taste
>actually they're all BLge
it's over
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>>585124087
We need more scatkino
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>>585120654
Yes, Whirlpoolge are always good.
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>>585123636
everybody high iq uses sonnet because it's unlimited and opus is diminishing returns
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>>585123063
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>>585124473
Does she have pubes
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>>585124403
wrong screencap but the point stands
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>>585124552
Why would she?
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>>585121734
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>used goods
>NBR
>murders babies
>glows in the dark
>canonically fucks fat old men
>has porn of her getting raped & engaging in gang bangs
>the dogs probably fucked her too
>betrays you numerous times

>killed Pham and Katia
I can't fathom how anyone can like her.
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New Disgaea event is a Manosaba reference
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>>585121815
as i've said, he's a narcissist. literally a mental disorder that makes you delusional. he isn't capable of understanding reality.
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>Superhuman v0.999999 part1
JVNs could never
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>>585124809
glowies broke her
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>>585120848
>>585120984
see >>584946621 The TL works as a whole but its flat

>>585124403
>>585124607
thats api or what? no one uses opus or astra on api unless they're dumb or have infinite money
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>>585124809
what a whore, needs hate sex wile i get to strangle her.
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>>585124935
Show her belly, coward. hoo mama
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>>585125052
enjoy the STDs
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>>585125319
Morgana wonned
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>>585125353
We have ALL been saying this.
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>>585125224
common sense to fuck a literal whore with a condom...
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>>585123636
skill issue
as expected from ai consumers
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>>585125512
what's the point, may aswell not fcuk at all
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>>585124809
Based
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>foids reading the smuttiest smut in public without batting an eye
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