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Where's my foxu hero, yoshi????
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Actual previous thread: >>585181393
>>585204734>Paradox thighs are getting nerfed in her next visual pass
>>585203608Uhhhh... Apollobros?
Is Harrow a virgin?
>>585204862this but a feral fox
>>585204945it's fucking over
>>585204947you wish
>>585204947Seems married to her job
>>585204945OH NO NO NO NERFBAT INCOMING
>>585204947If it would save your life then Harrow would have sex with you. She is the perfect woman.
Kino
>>585204945But he falls off le late game...
Don't let Harrow saving the update distract you from the fact that there is literally, LITERALLY nothing good about Violet
Stop making new threads when the previous thread didn't even hit page 5
>>585205142Need this with Harrow and Warden
>Celeste is the only playable spirit pos2 in the gamebuff pocket
>>585204947Yes. She has never even slipped a finger up there. She does read erotic novels though
>>585205232Who is Violet?
>>585205312Violet????
>>585204947100%She's the kind of woman who dedicated herself to her studies/work and nothing elseWhich is why she's the perfect match for Warden who would also be a complete virgin as he's only known training against the supernatural and war against the occultNeither of them would be clueless however, but when it comes to intimacy, there will be spilt spaghetti everywhere
>>585204945i thank nightshift for existing because it's a preemptive curb on your usual character downplayer that runs rampant in other genres. where you'd have to wait several months for a downplayed character to appear in tournament in, say, a fighting game, downplayers are repeatedly BTFO weekly by high ranked players collectively agreeing that certain characters are strong. and when shitlow andy speaks up on how grimblo (picked/banned 90% of the time) is actually bad, it's only made funnier
>>585204945>Got kicked into tower range level 3 by baba because the tard playing couldn't help but overstend with his 4 dashesThis is why everyone that plays him thinks he's bad btw.
>>585205373>>585205343
>>585204606>>585204639>>585204663Wait so no more 15 wins required to play ranked? Thank god. Like we're playtesters so why do we need wins to play ranked in a more competitive environment? Like who is this man dev is he smoking crack or what?
Harrow is a virgin but she's held the dicks of patients before to help them piss and stuck her finger in one too many assesIs that a dealbreaker for you?
>>585205484ONLY on heroes marked NEWAnyone else, you still need 15 wins because they've been in long enough for balance changes already
>>585205232>LITERALLY nothing good about Violetuhh bro?
>>585205312realistically there is no way they could directly buff him without turning him into god, they just made shields way too prevalent so his ult is worthless now
is it true that Paradox is black?
>>585205484moistcritical complained about it and it gained traction so the devs are removing it now. Say thank you to the eceleb.
>>585205440>how grimblo (picked/banned 90% of the time) is actually bad, it's only made funnierYou have to put in 3 times the effort to play Grimblo when you could just pick Scrimblo and collect free wins.
>>585205343>>585205373Silver's girlfriend
>>585205645>scrimblo, who had a 0% pickrate last night shift
GUN GODS STAND AT THE READYRADIANT REGEN IS GETTING NERFED SOON AND OUR TIME WILL FINALLY COME
>5 minutes or so into lane>die because i fucked up my positioning>teammate immediately types GG in all-chat>says 'i always do this in every game im in with him' and that im a pedophile (this was my first game of the day)>proceeds to not help me until we lose the game???
Scrimblo buffs when?
>exposes how retarded the new ults are >somehow it's his(her) fault
Please nerf Paige's laning phase, this whore buys opening rounds and I just have to concede all positioning in lane because I'm taking like 60 damage per gun shot while she's still extremely safe with massive range, how is this fair
>>585205626imagine if someone kirked that guy mid stream that'd be so funny
APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW /DLG/!
Why does Deadlock have so many (((lesbian))) fans
>>585205792slow down gun chad, yoshi fears our kind and will surely compensate by nerfing venator and wraith and every single orange item
>>585205784You have to remember that Nightshift players have to jestermaxx or nobody watches the stream and they make no money.
>nogomon maxes range on bishops and buys spirit burn>terrain now permanently filled with tiles that deal 1000 damage to me and proc 500 more damage with burn and kill my healingvery engaging
>>585205571I mean we're in radiant regen and shiv meta I feel like he's not a terrible pick
I genuinely cant wait for this game to go open beta so that the current pros get btfo by actual good players
>>585205856bazz is still unforgiven
>>585205898troon here, it's because of silver and mina and for some of us, harrow. hope this helps!
Watching Zeno play Yamato its insane how much more mobile she is compared to S+++erLike Silver getting stuck in sludge at the end of her dash when Yamato can cross a quarter of the map twice as fast while preserving that momentum
why is everyone and their mother building radiant regeni would think only heroes that reliably proc spirit damage many times to maximize uptime (e.g. shiv, geist, celeste, etc) would build it but i see like danny players build it? saw a fucking seven buy it once?? did i miss something???
>they remove the 15 wins requirement>suddenly, the population of the highest ranks are inflated by 100,000 Wraith abusers
>>585206192Its brain rot.
>>585205898Ask Yoshi, he's the one who keeps adding lesbians to the game. Or maybe it's hopoo?
>>585206249Silver is canon het doe
>>585206249HOLLIDAY HAD THREE DIVORCES RETARD
>>585206192seven cds too long
>>585206392all i'm hearing is that holliday's relationships with men go poorly
>>585206392Maybe she hates men if she keeps getting divorced
acolyte niggas really act like night shift picks are indicative of the balance at their rank
>harrow ult has 120 second cooldownthat's fucking insane what the hell
Silver and Celeste should have been black, you never see troons saying this shit about calico and wraith.
>>585206249We get it.You can repost shit from reddit.
So what's the best way to practice my aim? Aimless? The testing area? Bot matches?
>>585206549play the game
>>585206597Plaphog
Does anyone else get halfchub at Harrow's reload animation?
>>585206549aim better
>Holliday spends 1 minute doing crazy movement routes around a fight>does 200 damage and then dies Wow truly an incredible character
>>585205856It's still fucking insane that calico made it over trapper and slork (it's because she's black)
>>585206392it sucks that the shame has driven her to divorce 3 separate horse husbands, I feel bad for her, hope she gets over it one day
And since when Victor's ult stll procs under Curse? I've heard it shouldn't. What the fuck is this? How do I kill this sorry ass faggot?
>>585206549Just play, the best way to practice is trying to track how real players move, aim isn't that big of a deal anyway unless you're playing m1ggers
>>585206678if the player is good, he did 2000 damage worth of headshots before rotating lane and lassoing some guy over there for an easy gank
>>585205484The problem is that people have radically different competence levels depending on which hero they're playing, so either you know what heroes people are playing at the start of matchmaking and can balance based on individual hero competence BUT you can't permit hero switching/dynamic drafting, OR you permit hero switching and drafting but run the risk of imbalanced teams when different people pick heroes and throw the entire skill balance out of whack
>>585206772Rush spirit burn
Mokrill doesn't get enough hate.Literal retardproof character.
>>585206549>So what's the best way to practice my aim? Aimless? The testing area? Bot matches?How to Join a DoomyLock ServerYou do not need to install any external mods to play. To join a match, open the developer console in your Deadlock client and type or paste one of the active server connection codes:• North America (Main): connect 188.72.198.151:11695• North America (Secondary): connect doomylock.ddns.net:27015• Europe: connect 45.146.120.159:13568• Oceania: connect 103.6.171.52:27015
>>585205870it's only a matter of time before this artist draws Violet getting split in half by Silver's massive throbbing knot
>>585206824I do that, but he has the infuser, and ult.
>>585206549Pick Wraith Haze and Infernus and learn to not eat shit
The fact discordtrannies have a non-stop melty about Violet for almost 3 weeks now since her reveal and counting is so funny.
>From SSSSSSSS++++++++++++ fundamentally broken tier to never picked or banned
>>585207012time for another round of shiv nerfs
>>585206703It's a good thing that trapper skipped the herolabs release since it means that he will now be a cute spidergirl
Why is it so rare to see people playing Holliday? She's cute and has an interesting kit
>>585205312>Mina>Mirage>Infernus (yes, this ix*an is pos2. put 2 points into your ult and be useful instead of wasting everyone's time waiting for you to come online just for the enemy to press dispel)>Violet
When are they adding back in the corrupted items returning? It's about to be 3 weeks since they took 'The Broker' away.>>585207012It's funny because with the new map he isn't that strong because kidnaps are virtually worthless since Blue lane change. Just goes to show you how the devs balance the game around the "pros" which is always a bad sign.
>>585207249She is high risk low reward
>>585206392So she's a dyke in denial, keeps trying it with men but it never works out. And when she finally tries it with another woman it's perfect.
>>585201994>>Gets mad if I suggest that he watch guides/streams because "man fuck you this is some Dark Souls shit the game should explain this instead of some video"based, you should play better games with your friendevery casual player is a wannabe pro fag as a result of gay faggot youzoomers and twitchfags and wikis and discords and all that other gay shit
>>585207249I wanted to play Gun Holliday but Gun Holliday is only good if you're an aim god and can consistently rack up consecutive headshots on people
>>585207317>holliday>high riskLOL
After 8 games as Harrow I've determined players have no fucking clue what to do when you buff when with your 2
>>585207301>Mina>Mirage>Good you have got to be joking
>>585207398She's only good in high elo/tourney play. Basically Venator.
I LOVE USELESS PAIGE NIGGERS THAT ONLY BUY SPIRIT ITEMS AND ZERO UTIL!!!!!!!!!!
>>585207398Correct, they have no idea how it fucking functions. I hand it out if someone needs a speed boost/attack speed boost to finish someone off... then they run away as soon as I give them the boost despite the nigger we're chasing having 200 health
I generally try not to abandon matches at all no matter how annoying my team is, but I just had a TTV lecturing me on "how to lane" because I wasn't confirming every single soul for them in the first two minutes. I feel like there's only so much a man can deal with.
>>585207309Yep, where the fuck are the buffs already, many door nerfs can be reverted now
I regret voting for Violet
Thank god yamato is getting nerfed
>>585207590>>585207398It's best used on yourself in most lobbies
>Celeste builds all greens and still aoe rapes your entire team while being unkillablenerf doorman againnightshift is a joke
>rat king is extremely low iq>smells like peruvian dota 2 players>check his profile>Gurgaon, Haryana, India
>>585205440If cattle could post
>>585207635Most likely won't happen for awhile because we're not real playtesters so Yoshi is going to leave Doorman to fade into obscurity.
>>585207620>not confirming soulsthat's your fault
>rat king finally gets picked>farm super hard like an M1 carry>does nothing>losegood character
>>585207398I like it is as Victor because it allows me to chase people at extremely hihg speeds
- Refresher Cooldown reduced to 30 seconds.- Suppressor Fire Rate reduction increased from -28% to -75%- Glass Cannon HP penalty increased from -13% to -23%, weapon damage reduced from 80% to 50%.- Long Range and Sharpshooter now increase your weapon's spread by 200% and 350% respectively. If the weapon had no spread by default, Venator's bloom is added to it.- Celeste now has a few hundred bars of stamina with instant regen.- Warden Bullet damage per boon reduced from 0.25 to 0.0- Venator Sprint speed reduced from 1.5m to negative 3m.- Shiv now rides on Baba's bench if Baba is in the match with him. Otherwise, he is left crawling in his base. Also, Slice and Dice and Killing Blow no longer move Shiv forward. - Yamato +5 grapple charges- We added Scourge 2. T1 purple, exact same stats as Scourge but with double the radius, and 400% increased damage when inside midboss pit.
>>585208010Because Rat King is NOT pos1. I don't know what the fuck NL was thinking.
Is viewing other players profiles meant to be broken? I just wanted to see how good they were in general
Jesus christ Harrow is BROKEN
>>585205440this entire argument is dismantled by the fact venator is in every match and hes bad in the real game
>>585207620you kill it, you confirm itif your retarded lane partner isn't doing that then start melee hitting the creeps until you get jumped and if he doesn't get the message then oh well time to lose :)
>heal is anti e-girlhealslutbros... its not fucking fair...
>>585208046>Warden Bullet damage per boon reduced from 0.25 to 0.0kek
>>585208063I 100% agree. hes a bruiser, he needs to be in fights to make an impact, not farming for 30 minutes and only appearing with ult every other fight
>Lady Geist>VyperWho should I choose as my third to unlock ranked anons?
>harrow LOST in all the games she was played inHarrow uplayers... our response?
>>585207620>playing Ivy (Ivy main btw)(( f2p btw))>teammate tells me to use tether when the heal trooper diesYeah ok buddy I was already doing that. I dont know why people always assume their lane partner is retarded.
>standard matches>generally not much bitching besides the occasional low mental monkey>never had rage comments from standard>brawl matches>some of the whiniest low mental faggots>three rage comments in the past weekWhat posses a monkey to unironically get angry over the fiesta dipshit gamemode?
>>585208080>her ult is... LE BROKEN!!!
>>585208260nigga her healing is broken
>>585208010>>585208063>>585208137he should be stealing enemy camps with his busted grenade, you can just throw it in there and run away most of the time
>>585208185What rank? In my experience it's the opposite
i just got four brool games of harrow in a row. no way she's fallen off by now bros.
>>585208185kill all low iq brawl niggers until they get giga gaped back to overwatchI hope valve never give it a balance pass again
newfag here. i'm dogshit at shooters and mediocre at mobas in general, but i've been having fun playing this and trying out heroes in matches. i know what i need to do to get better at the moba/macro aspects of the game; are there any heroes i can play to try and force myself to get better at movement/aim/precision? and failing that what heroes are best for retards who can't aim
I love how everyone agrees that the """""pro scene""""" in this game is bullshit and completely not worth paying attention to yet these retards still come into these threads to spam about ecelebs nobody cares about
>>585208273
>>585208273Harrow is Yoshi's way of telling you that anti-healing is not optional
>>585208260>not only saving but reposting censored imageschrist, you need to kill yourself now
Well?
>>585208374mina teaches you everything you need to be proficient at deadlock compared to other mobayou are forced to aim, manage your cooldowns, farm and abuse mobility. many other characters lack covering all bases, also mina is strong enough that she can carry you a little
>>585208441>Violetlol
>>585208441Can they not play Danny?
Rem > Harrow
>>585208539The dress stays on
>>585208441>rat king and danny are the only honest heroes from this update>the other 4 are reddit cancer monsters
>>585208441>wraith comp-viable after allM1gger downplayers???
>>585208539>barefootRuined, seeing naked feet on anything makes me gag
>>585208441>tfw play Billy, Drifter, DannyInto the trenches I go I guess
>>585208591harrow was banned half the time retard
>>585208591>Shiv wr in nigshift:43%>Shiv wr in the wild: 43%But he's actually really good
>>585208539
They never expect the arctic blast meleedox
>>585208441Looking forward to the next balance patch, this meta is absolutely unhingedI don't want to cry powercreep but when basically 90% of the release roster is unplayable then there's a problem
>>585208591Venatorgods are getting too powerful
>>585208369she is a support so the harrowfags got filtered
>>585208503works for me. time to fucking suck at the vampire
>>585208762Retards ITT will keep downplaying him hough
>Solomon can teleport across the map nowhuh
I only play single target and very close range heroesI don't know what the fuck I'm meant to do anymore. The entire screen is utter dogshit and even when I get on someone it feels like I do less damage than the random ass stray aoes do
>>585208441niggas will look at this and tell you it means graves is bad and venator is good
>>585208762Just too flexible of a pick. He can be played pos1 or 2, and doing so doesn't impact his micro.
>>585208759wow, a build HANDCRAFTED for instant loss as her fist breaks on my chest before i rip off her leotard and mating press her. the helmet stays on though
>>585208539>asteria
>>585208849explain further
>Shiv first picked every timeNiggers will tell you the monke is balanced btw and doesn't deserve all the nerfs
>>585208886it means you need to position better and not just jump into the shitpile as soon as it happens so you dont get stuck in the middle of 4 massive aoe ultsgotta outflank em b
>>585209062he was simply a design mistake
>>585209067So what you're saying is I should just no play until the fight is over and pray my side didn't lose the aoe fest, then go in and hope they don't just turn on me instantlyAt that point just play an aoe character that rapes the enemy team from the other side of the lane instead
>>585208963
>>585208112>QSR on leeches, replenish all my healing needles>KD free 8 needles without doing damageYou don't have to do any damage with these items and ammo items
>>585208165Something something win rate doesn’t matter some thing something pro pick rate is actually signal something something nerf silver
>>585208761all of the January 2025 heroes except for holligay are F tier unpickables. those are the real victims of powercrept.
Hope you guys like the new content because you aren't getting anything else for the next 10+ months btw
>>585208659>naked feet on anything makes me gageven paws? :3
>>585207012The problem is that Cart + Door is too powerful, they basically can't balance him as long as that combo exists
so you either pick celeste or venator if you want to win?
>>585209283good, hope all the tourists fuck off
>>585209283Item update in JanuaryTrust the plan
>>585208761Surely radiant regen can't be this good right? The anti heal can't be THAT bad right?
>>585209283hopefully it stays that way, i love pressing 4 to win
>midboss moved to 30 minutes>rift removedAoEslop lock is fixed.
>warden now immune to fear during his ult60% WR INCOMING GET DOWNNNN
>>585209521>rift removedretarded
>>585209320Do the people screaming about Graves being literally a minor care when it's yuri
>>585209419i have been seeing it in every game on every single hero
i know its not coming this year but we really need item rework/shop update + hero balance patch asap
>>585209283we're getting item update part one in late november. real ones know that the item update got split into two.
>>585208539aprons, alright, needs her high heels back thoughstraight naked is just tasteless, maybe even ugly
>>585209528>More Warden X Harrow fuelRemodel when?
>>585209576nobody cares and neither should youanyone who says they do is performative
Give me an item that makes it so I can't take damage from anything more than 4m away from mePermanently
>>585209576She's 18
>>585209865out of ten
Apparently support means "rapes your team without attacking"
@585209557aoeslopper cope.
Graves is implied being underaged tho
>>585209918After some point this bit loses its heat
How's nurse harrow with infinite rounds?
has the reverse bunny suit graves mod been fixed yet?
when is this stupid dog eating gook bitch self insert going to get nerfed?
>>585207398>got a match with Silver>wait for woman to become dog>give meth to dog>dog go fast
I love black women bro
dotatards really expect people to know what poz1 means
will we ever get another playable reptile?
>>585210217know your place faggot
>>585210217haven't played dota but isn't it just the player who gets the top priority farm hence why position 1?
>Warden gets to plap the chick with the biggest its in the gameits not FAIR
When will free speech be allowed again
>>585210217i have actually 0 hours in dota and just using my fucking brain I can extrapolate that pos1 means the character that's the most important. which probably means gets priority on farm. which means the character that's going to be doing the most damage.
>>585210458Poz 1 means most pozzed, it’s the gayest most aids ridden player on the team
>>585210196same
>>585208273That's kind of all she's gotBesides strong healing, she has her ult and her buff and that's itTake away her healing and her buff goes with it which only leaves her with the ult
>ult as Harrow from enemie's backlineImagine
>Never show fear, no matter the odds KINO
>>585210620I have actually zero hours in dota and just using my fucking brain I can extrapolate that pos1 means the character that's the most forward. which probably means gets priority on farm. which means the character that's going to be doing the most tanking and brawling (carrying)
Inhouses will always have hero preferences. Balancing around Night Shift is fucking dumb.
>>585208441TI 2019 had every hero in the roster picked (or banned). Dota2 was about 10 years old at that point. Gonna be a long road for DL
>>585210648haze isn't a negress, she's literally black (but was born white)
why do people think that Haze is black?
haze is my cute smoke creature gf
is calico actually fun to play?
>>585210994Hmm.....idk
>>585210994same reason people think paradox is black - 30 hours in game at best
>>585210994open your eyes bro she's #000000
>play the first quick match after doing a few bot matches and street brawls>go 0-0 in laning phase>rape the lobby in midgameThere's clearly a newfag queue, but still, how bad is the average player trying this game out? Niggas on my team were shooting the invulnerable core while the side altars were still standing.
>>585211041Yeah
We need slork and more ocean characters related to the adversary
>>585210783IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
>>585210860nawhretard
>>585211042Why does she have Ukranian flag on her chest?
I haven't seen a Calico or Viscous in forever.
>>585211095Do you like ocean, little one? btw JUST GOT ME NURSE HORROW WITHOUT A TOKEN HOLY SHIT
haze clearly is black-coded doe
>>585211258deep sea creatures are super cool
I think the reason why people think Haze is black is because of her fat ass.
https://fixvx.com/kfc/status/2113004252855701989
>>585211074I made a smurf since I got hit with a 5 game low prio queue and I've been raping people with Warden. Niggas were literally running at me in my ult while I gun them down.Anyone know anyone else with unmatched solo carry potential other than Warden?
>>585208046>Also, Slice and Dice and Killing Blow no longer move Shiv forward.*phantom strike*AH TRIED TA BE NICE
>retarded Celeste over extending to kill a dipshit>Mina ults right on top of him>rescue beam his retarded ass away>REEE I WAS GONNA KILL THAT OTHER TARD I CAN TANK MINA>okay>proceeds to eat shit every time he tries to face tank Mina with her ult
Kaori (the voice director) said that Mr Krabs is not the Hidden King, that VAs can change, and that Calico is not Harrow
>>58520876190% of the roster isn't played mostly because it's the same 20 people over and over
Which heroes are considered pos2 in this game?
>>585209283yeah but in 10 months we get risk of deadlock!!!
>>585208441>>585208591Literally nobody besides me cares that Mo&Krill are anti-fun retard enablers???
>>585211536i miss pso2
>>585211045no one said this ever
Found my new main. Vi is fun.
>>585211506>garrus Shepard...
>>585211536Violet
>>585211679>standardopinion discarded
>set graves as avoid>always get graves (on enemy team)is this YOUR TEAM ONLY?
>>585211806"banning" heroes is a meme, it actually doesn't work
>>585211806graves is a really popular character and not THAT common of a banso you'll be seeing her a lot
>>585211506>Paradox has had 3What the fuck ?? How many scottish women are there?
dotasissies be like: why are you stealing my aids cum??? I'm the freakin poz1 so I'm entitled to that pozzed load!!!
Crazy how the coolest ult out of this batch is literally, LITERALLY, and I mean LITERALLY, a suplex.
>>585210994because she's a cheap dishonest character
>>585211506>they will change the Haze and Pocket VAs to black chicks if the consensus overwhelmingly thinks they are like they made Pocket a xir>they will change Bebop's VA to a black guy because Shelly is black and he is her "son"
>>585211787>not getting your 15 wins right now before it's mandatory and having her unlocked at the start of new season from get go. Retarded tourist
I just picked up Graves and played 4 games in a row with the Echo Shard + Refresher build from the top builds page. Never touched this hero in my life before. Won all 4 games in under 2 hours. Is this the normal Graves experience?
>>585211806penance for avoiding an honest hero
>why are you stealing my aids cum??? I'm the freakin poz1 so I'm entitled to that pozzed load!!!
>>585211945at least 3>>585211991i got my 15 wins in ranked
>>585211991>doesn't know they're getting rid of the 15 win requirementHoly shitlow alert! Look forward to rapin--- oh wait I'll never play against you in ranked because I'm Ascendant and you're a shitter LOL!
>>585211679post your best one
two games in a row against a deadman danny with seraphim wingsquestioning why i play this mode anymore after these new batch of heroes. its like all of them are paige
>>585212204shit like apollo and deadman danny are just unfun to play against. game isnt very fun anymore
>>585212204What the fuck are Seraphim Wings?
>>585212204>questioning why i play an RNG game mode with RNG characters with RNG items brain damage?
>>585212087>doesn't know they're getting rid of the 15 win requirementYeah now you need 3050 for Apollo
>>585211506It's literally Mr. Krabs and there's no way you can convince me otherwise
>>585212285Streetbrawl only item that gives you a fuckton of jumps and super low gravity
>>585212285street brawl legendary item
>>585207945I was playing mo and krill so my tickle gun could not confirm the souls that infernus was running right up on to sweep without doing it himself.>>585208095I swapped to melee'ing for a few seconds but my fat fuck model was soaking so many haze and wraith bullets I just had to dial it back lol
>>585212204If their goal was to force me to start enjoying standard again then they succeeded Brawl is fucking miserable right now, unplayable retardation
>>585212317It was pretty fun before the last 6 heroes. Even Paige you could divebomb with certain charactersAll of these new ones are giant aoe slop>>585212285see img
>standard games take too long and if you aren't winning, it feels like pure CBT>brawl is meme dogshit>the game will never remove characters like Apollo and every patch from now on will be even more aoeslop and hyper mobilityBros all I want to do is play Drifter and it feels like Yoshi is laughing at me
>>585212614slowing hex apollo and he dies
>>585212204>She still plays Jeet Brool, an abandoned unbalanced gamemode
>>585212614drifter clears all the new heroes except maybe baba because she can run off
>>585212253I'm just glad there isn't a 60% winrate Haze with 360 degree autoaim ult in every fucking game anymore. That was the worst meta in the game's history.
>>585211506I don't think anyone's VA will change except warden
>>585212725Then why is Drifter unpicked in pro play while all the new heroes are there except Danny (who Drifter also can't do anything to)
>its another episode of "your team pretends youre the problem because youve typed in chat rather than the actual weak link whos been silent all game"
>>585212825warden's VA is literally the only good thing about him
These "human beings" really thought violet was a balanced character in her current state.
>>585212852because pro play consists of about 20 people in the US and then 20 people in the EU
>>585212483Same lol, after Nurse was released and her AoE is giant a giant 20 second fear I finally bailed after playing nothing but SB for about 5 months
>>585212939Who would also be playing the characters that could clear all the new heroes yet they aren't
>>585211571>anti-fun retard enablersDescribes 5/6 of the CNS heroes (Danny is based)
Every new character is just press 4 to win.How do you know if your character is good or not?Can your ult be countered? Line of sigthed, counterspelled or iframed on reaction?Than your character is shit.
>>585213018your comp meta consists of a small classroom and pub meta is always recognized as different from pro. you can stop playing drifter if you just feed
I know what Violet's kit does but I don't know why the fuck they're all running into melee yet dying. Is there some shit I'm missing where she can just slide into your face and magdump everything yet somehow get away scott free every teamfight
I AM FORGOTTEN
if AOE ults are all that matter why are wraith and venator so successful
W𝗮rden - L𝗮st St𝗮ndLast Stand now gives fear immunity during both its charge up and active ult, without needing T3. Its tooltip now reflects this change.
i've literally never seen a solomon do good they're always 1-9 complaining about everyone elsethis isn't even an "our solomon vs their solomon" thing either they're all ass
>>585213269Because they kill you in 1 second while their targets are permastunned by aoe ultsPlus someone has to push the side lane while everyone else is deathballing
>>585213081>can your ult be countered?This is why no one picked Danny today. Anyone with a brain will counterspell his ult because it takes a full second to actually go off. Not to mention half the map areas in the game turn the ult off because they have a roof.Still there's a shocking number of people who complain about one of the weakest heroes in the game, though.
>>585213269Wraith is good as a pickoff hero (like Holliday but doesn't get gun disabled during ult).
>>585213243The most useless thing in the update was here for 4 days and now it's just gone. At least make it com back every other weekend or something.
>>585213269because wraith and venator are dishonest
>>585213137You keep coping with these answers but the fact is that this "small classroom" plays what works, and they're all good enough players that if they played him for 3 games they'd pick him up better than you ever had and see your 'lol he beats all the cancer being picked or banned' visionFact is it's an aoe shitfest meta in a game built around small arenas with objectives. Drifter relies on 1v1s and literally no one is going to give you them
>>585210783TIME TO BE A HERO
>>585213464I think you are dishonest >>585213532I think you should just stop playing and wait for a balance patch because they're not going to remove AOE ults
>>585210921Ti is way more games than ns
>>585212765In my 2000 hours that was the only time I ever stopped playing. It was after Christmas 2024 iirc and they just really wanted haze to be able to aoe ult an entire team dead whenever she wanted for months. They nerfed it a lot and some items and changed occurred that lessened its power enough for me to come back, but damn that sucked. Not fun at all
Wardens new fear immunity also applies to the channel, meaning you can just ult into the Nurses face and she cant stop you.
>wardedkeks getting happy with the changes>it doesn't matter since everyone else will just focus him insteadlollmao even
>>585213141The meta is to build Radiant Regen and all the 1600 green shield items that get their cooldown reduced by the first spell. Then you can duel people at melee range with the third spell, which stuns, heals Violet, and provides damage reduction during channel.She is squishy, but if you fix that problem then she is a beast. She's similar to Baba in that sense because she gets more out of her items than any other character, except she scales the cooldown instead of having 300 spirit. Same idea though. Amped up items make for tanky characters.
>>585210783I WON'T GIVE UP
>>585213705I can only even tell when the nurse is ulting after I've been feared for the first time
>>585213774>DON'T LOOK AT HER>brother I don't even know what I'm not meant to look at because she's touching the skybox
>>585212191Probably this one
I stopped playing right before Graves/Apollo, etc. Back then everyone was complaining about the shield items because they gave way too much valueWhy is it that I'm returning now and the shields don't seem to be touched and there's no anti-shield item either?
>>585207398>Throw it on a shiv knowing he's going to be jumping around like a retard anyways>pour healing into him knowing dam well he's not going to back up>he gets like 4 kills and has no idea why danny did not kill him at 20 life
I hate this dogshit update. I hate the new dogshit uninteractive heroes who don't let you play the game because you dared to be in their line of sight. I hate that whhatever counterplay there is, basically only slightly slows them down rather than stop them at all. I hate that coomers and redditors got five fucking AOE slop heroes that shit out damage and CC in an area while making the screen unreadable and all their skills are so powerful and spammable than even counterspell and dispel magic aren't enough. I hate that Danny is lumped in with these bullshit characters with millenial writing and worse VAs. I hate that harrowniggers turn up their nose at violetniggers like their safe horny crap isn't just as bad with an even more unfun to play against kit. I hate that whenever you call people niggers they just tell you to avoid the lane wide AOEs that are extremely easy to hit.I'm uninstalling this dogshit game. CNS is the 7.00 of Deadlock, which is impressive because it's still in beta and somehow it already got an irredeemable game ruining update.
>we lost a teamfight because of me>tfw I was experiencing hand tremorsits fucking over for me isn't it? go on without me zoomerbros...
>Wardens ult makes him immune to Harrow's ult's fear effectHoly kino, just witnessed this for the first time with Warden on my team, bro saved the whole game.
>>585214021because we're still in a spirit meta and it's the only thing keeping nukes in check >>585214096bye bitch
>>585214021I dunno how long ago you played but they all lost their movespeed bonus five months agohttps://deadlock.wiki/Update:May_22,_2026
Nice ult Harrow
>>585213932Ummmm where all these anons saying Violet fans don't play the game? Their silence is deafening...
Violet trannies still begging for scraps of attention
>>585214096If you would have listened to me and designed Deadlock according to my design principles we wouldn't be in this mess. I WARNED you this would happen back in 2024.Sucks to suck I guess
>>585214313>Nice ult Harrowhttps://cdn.deadlock.wiki/Unstoppable_cast.mp3
I like Dynamo but fuck me I wish his entire gameplay wasn't balanced on the all-or-nothing nature of his ultsLike some games you need ALL of your ults to be absolutely perfect obliterations and if you fuck up (or even just underperform) with a SINGLE ultimate, your team is essentially fucked
>>585213932I meant your best drawing of a red rocket but nice, she is fun as fuck but I think she's a little overtuned maybe, especially during lane phase she is a bully
>>585213932>53k healing how is that even possible
All heroes in this game are dishonest, due to it's nature as a PVP game
>>585214441>design principleslet's hear it
>>585214467All radiant regen btw
>>585214545ur mum
>>585214545true, except shiv
>>585214545Warden is the most honest character in the game
>>585212825that would be such a mongoloid move, hes got the most iconic voice in the cast
>>585214467radiant regen is disgusting and should be deleted from the game is what lol
>>585214636>2 AOE abilitiesNope Warden is dishonest trash
>>585214545All heroes in this game are dishonest because it's a MOBA
>>585214567Less CCMore investment required for "big" abilitiesMore transformative mechanicsMore Gun focused interactivity (ie Graves Skulls)
>>585214036>Throw it on a shiv knowing he's going to be jumping around like a retard anyways>His monkey brain short circuits and he walks away from the fight
My biggest complain is that I don't even know what's meant to be skill expression with the new characters. In the past because it wasn't all aoe faggotry I could usually tell when someone's good. Now they just throw shit all over the screen and people die
uhhhh
>>585214686>less CCno, everyone in this game has a recharging force staff, positioning needs to matter. >more investment for big abilitiesmost of them require all upgrades>more transformative mechanicsmeaning?>more gun focused interactivity too niche to design the entire game around people having abilities that can interact with guns
>erm this grenade homes in on you...and it does huge damage...and the radius is high...and it le slows you...and a low cd :Dwelcome to modern deadlock
>>585214857Rat King player didn't get his hero.
>>585214545Even Shitver?
>Rat King is OP look at his pick ra-AAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKKKK
>guy going 14 3 and 2 complains he has le highest kills and le does everything even though he never shows up to rifts when we need him too since its a comeback rift-_-
>>585215041rat king is a "win more" buttonif you're not winning he's not great
>>585215041That anon is a retard, everyone already know Rat King is dogshit beyond his ult.The only thing that propped him up is his ult.>BUT PICK RATEBecause he's easy to play and he's one of the best designed hero in the game
>>585215041My semi-meta wife!
how do I play door man?I want to make people unironically rage quit the match
>>585215070had a game yesterday where, as rat king, i was running it down yellow all game. every fucking time i made it to their side of the map 3~5 of them came out of the wood work to kill me. so I started doing it during objectives such as when my team was doing mid boss or rift. fucking of course half their team or more came to buttfuck me and they lost the objectives.they lost the game. hard. because they wouldn't GET off my FUCKING DICK
>>585215041>Harrow and Violet bannedMakes sense>SolomonWhat why? He's kinda mid
>>585207301>2 points in ult>not dashfernusngmi
>>585214838solomon plays around his bishops the majority of the time, if he's forced to leave his position it's difficult for him to retreat or run in and take it back. he's also a very mediocre chaser. even though he's being forced into a support, he can definitely fight for time in his bishop's zone of control. danny has suicide built into his kit, we haven't even seen a fully realized danny yet thanks to rocket jumps and other movement tech.don't know much about violet enough to comment, but baba is a weirdo spirit bruiser, and both harrow and RK are meant to fill niche spots as a dedicated gun tank and healer we were missing in the roster. this update has much more variety in kits compared to the other batches, we were really just missing a new gun carry
>>585215325>much more varietyIf you ignore the 5 gigantic aoe objective-winning ults lol
>>585215041wow competitive deadlock is ass compared to dota
>>585214865>more transformative mechanics>meaning?Destructible terrain, shield/armor mechanics, multiple primary weapons per character etc. You know, things that make shooters actually fun to play.
>>585215041night shift needs to double the amount of bans
Why do Violet's 3 and 4 feel like they were just added last minute while also being the most broken and braindead abilities in her kit
>>585215041>Awful Lane>Every single M1gger, Celeste and Shiv hard counters himJeez I wonder why
>>585211506Hidden King is Optimus Prime (who died recently), by this time next year the voice will change. He sounds just like he did recently in Invincible.
>>585214838>>585215041>>58521543510 months of playtesting for this btw
>>585206521warden ult (most useless in the game btw) has 140. all ults should be above 90 and every one that can affect the movement of more than 2 people should have 110s minimum. not debatable btw, fuck wraith fuck lash fuck holliday fuck rem fuck gt and FUCK THE RAT KING AND BABA
>>585215041STOP PICKING VENATOR, PLEEEEEEEEEASE
>haha its been a good night let me queue one more game>my team is a 5 stack of actual fresh installsyoshi please let me into ranked
>People keep insisting there's no powercreep in this patch>Most picked and banned heroes are the new ones
>>585215041Comparison to last week
>recycled filler voiceline about Kelvin letting his team die
>>585215041Deadman Daniggas...I thought we were winning...
>>585215781he does a shitload of damage and can buttfuck a single person to make it 5v6 but in a comp setting he's too easy to shut down unfortnite
>>585215041>>585215768Is Rat King the new Graves? But for tanks?
It's funny how most good tournament heroes are dogshit in ranked
where's my ixian female hero, yoshit?
Harrow might be the very first hero that requires a mic
I think they should add a ten minute JOI voiceline for Harrow. That'd uh, really make her character pop I think. She really needs this. Yoshi. Yoshi c'mon.
>already was underpowered before the upsate>can't compete with new heroes>new map is too open for herHow do we fix Silver?
>>585210217>Deadlock adds the term "rat" to its commsDOTA THREADDOTA GAMEDOTA DEVELOPER
>>585216005Omega Strikers post-beta was fucked even worse than this game current beta
>>585216016I suspect split shot is mandatory for no other reason than it makes it easier to heal retards who don't want to be healed
>>585216005she should be evil and grey
>>585215781His lane is still way too bad to be played in comp and he isn't a mid-late teamfight demon to make up for it like Billy (who to be fair is also unpicked this week), it's extremely easy to draft against him, and he gets raped by m1s which they'll always have and are always good. Holliday, Paradox and Bebop all do the same job while having good lanes and better pick potential and/or teamfight utility.
>>5852160781 update her animations2 update her model to finally include her puffy jiggly cookie (both forms)3 give her 3 stamina (pls)
>>585210217Farm priority feels like less of a thing in the same way that roles feel like less of a thing
>in low queue cuz i ragequit on a street brawl game>first game i get a calico going 0/13 and a sinclair going 0/9>second game my team refuses to squad up during any sort of team fight/obj>third game a fed haze rapes my entire team cuz no one is buying bullet counter itemsat this point im just gonna make an alt
>>585216238neck yourself faggot
Would you get surge of power on Harrow?
>>585216262Because there no support bitch roles like buying wards
I don't know what to do in the mid-late game. I just wander the map and then the entire team appears and rapes me
>>585216304Thank fuck honestlyThe obliteration of consumable items is one of the best decisions Deadlock made
>>585216320clear your lanes + your side farm/junglewait for an objectivedo objectivego from there
Just got accused of smurfing (in standard) by 4 people because their mina was shit and fed me in lane so I snowballed
>>585216279oh ok fine give her a musky sheath instead thenis that better 4 u
>>585216158You already get autoaim on heal shit, all you have to do is shoot allies within the circle and they get healed
how do you respond without sounding mad
>>585216395B-But muh smoke of deceipt.....
>>585216401>clear your lanes + your side farm/jungleI try to do this but my team starts fighting somewhere else so I go to join them but they die by the time I get there
>>585215472this game is way more lowskilledthe balance is also kinda bad
>>585216167she should be wide eyed and weird and grey
>>585216410how about you take your bestiality bullshit to /b/ or something
>>585215908Not really it's just that night shift tards don't know how to draft so they pick the same 12 heroes, the one time RK was picked this week they put him in a pos1 farming role, he's not a fucking Venator or Wraith, he's a tank
>>585212191there are at least 6 people mashing 4 in this clip
>>585216487I prefer blind chicks
>>585216430Listen you haven't seen movement until you've tried to heal a lane partner in bricklo
>>585215756>powercreep is when new heroes are viable in "pro" playImagine making 6 new heroes and no one plays them because they suck
raincoat rem when
danny fucking sucks needs more buffs right guys?
>>585216503did you forget we're talking about silver hereplease keep up little man
>>585215756I don't think the power creep is any different than the last batches where basically every hero released overtuned and was then nerfed over several successive patches, except for the fact that we now have five (5) new giant aoe teamfight ults. On one hand games aren't solely dictated by who gets Dynamo/Lash anymore but now mid boss and rift are disaster zones.
The heroes arent the problem the objectives are
>>585216742Walkers will be able to WALK... soon...
>>585216643He needs a new ult.
>>58521664340% winrate btw, though I think he's unironically fine as is
>>585216820>kill guardian>walker activates and patrols from its current location to the guardian and back
Niggers have a lot issues with the fact that danny is a shameless corporate shill, Im glad that one of Harrow lines is offering help and him telling her to fuck off
>>585216643his gun needs to scale a bit better, could be addressed by the item update >>585216837it's a pick ult. just needs some utility
MY PRECIOUS STREET BRAWL IS RUIIIIIIIINED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>585215306repeating fat AoE CC ult he can slap down on any objective and say "my space now" and you can't really stop him or do much of anything other than fuck off
>>585216643move power away from 1 to his 2 and 33 only serves to get your jetpack back and to finish people off if your ult doesn't one tap them from 50%
>>585216741For some fucking reason YOSHIT added heroes with big aoe ults in the major map rework update WITHOUT reworking midboss too
>>585216837His ult should be a skill shot
>>585216643hes unironically weak.>counterspell his dive>entire combo gone and hes forced to retreat>silence/slowing outright stop him from workingthe best part of his kit are his strix missles and the fact that his ult is basically an execute
>>585215041Crazy how much fun I'm having with Danny, and he gets to escape nerfs too
>>585216994The playtest server supposedly has had a version of the midboss that roams around the map and can be kited around and fought anywhere which is probably why these ults weren't so oppressive there (plus the playtesters are retarded). A bandaid fix until we get a new version of mid in like 18 months time would be having the rejuv split into three crystals placed around the room.
>>585216914that's what happens when you invite literal troglodytes to your game with characters like paige and rem
>>5852169873 + toxic bullets is INSANELY strong
How are you guys skilling Danny? Feels like everyone is doing something differently
I can't believe niggers build this worthless express shot items on danny just because they are too shit to hit rockets
>>585217145it's not
Reminder you can draw swastikas with violet
>>5852172272 points 1 2 points 2 max 1 max 2, max the ult. You could put a point into the 3 at some point for the lower cooldown if you're getting toxic also.
>>585213278am I going insane? why are the a's in your post bolded?
>>585217145>insanely strong>less damage than a minor stream of piss>>585217227222 444 111 333
>>585217227see>>585217290this is the only w𝗮y to build him>>585217292wh𝗮t's the problem
>>585217272why would I do that when I can draw dog dicks?
>>585216914I think the writers are aware enough to know Danny's shill persona being a facade would just be a repeat of Lash again.
>>585217272Violet's my favorite of the new characters for the skill expression of her kit
>>585216643his entire gameplan is incredibly fun but incredibly telegraphed and pretty much will only work in low rank and on newbies, any higher than that and people actually buy counterspell and slowing hex to fuck you over
>people think the next major update will take just as longNah the map changes if what delayed this update so muchThats a ton of work considering the scale of the mapI reckon we get the item uodate on late novemberMajor update in April
>>585217227112221344-334/433
>>585217389lol
>>585216914>>585217368The fact that he cusses out McGinnis for her shit work on Chimera Mk. 1 whenever potential buyers are out of the earshot is proof enough for me that he isn't some empty automaton.
the game's visual clarity has been absolutely bummed i swear im not an unc but its so hard to tell whats happening during team fights anymore its just fucking awful
>>585217389lmao
>>585216914Its insane how much I hate all these fuckers who keep wanting muh nuance and muh grayness in everythingThey even pretend that Billy got kore development this update when hes still the same old fucktard poser
Notice how violet utterly replaced mina as the resident e-girl pick
d-did i just travel back to the pastno way this current street brawl game is happening to me...wheres all the aoe slop
>play mina>haven't won by 30:00>guaranteed to lose
its up!
>>585217389>late novemberanon...
China tower side of the map sucks compared to Purple fog side of the map. It's so much easier to farm the sinners in the grape pool.
>>585217549>wheres all the aoe slopGeist is right there tho
>>585217389>the map changes if what delayed this update so muchFrom the announcement for the update it's just that they were working on a lot of things all at once this year. The map update didn't take a lot of time because it was hard to get out but because they were also working on cosmetics, hideout customisation, new heroes (beyond the ones we have now also), pve, a mid rework, the item update and creating and scrapping remodels ten times over.
>>585209528Need a hope edit of Warden.
Why does no one build Spellslinger on the skeleton? Seems insane paired with Spiritual Overflow
>>585217534>boring to play>boring design>boring to listen to>boring lorechecks out
You know I've seen almost no one mention this but when you wolf out as Silver why the fuck is there like a 1.25 second of a blinding flash? Its so distracting the transformation animation has this annoying blinding flash which makes you lose sight of someone you're attacking or am I just blind?
>>585217116It's kinda gotten to the point that I don't really use his dive much anymore due to the telegraph and how catastrophically you get fucked for failing to hit someone. He can pump out a lot of damage with strix missiles and using his 3 + jetpack makes him hard to hit, but conversely it's hard to hit people who stay moving off the ground. I can definitely see him just not being reliable enough against skilled players to be a good pick. Mixed with his ult being an execute with the really severe limitation of using it outdoors.
what we know about the new comm ban system:1. you can say whatever you want including shit like nigger + other slurs2. however if someone reports you (either team) you will get banned immediately in game3. comm ban = 1 week no ranked4. even words like "idiot" and "retard" will ban you
kiss my feet /dlg/
>>585217534Mina's not the type of playstyle e-girls really gel with she was always destined to be replaced as their favorite. She's a mobile aggressive lane bully that requires some decent aim to play effectively. Across every moba I've ever played that is NEVER the type of hero they stick with.
>win as silver>get lowest everything feel like an impostersuch is the silver experience
>>585217680Update your GPU drivers bro
>>585210217Dotards mistakenly believe that this game is dota
>one more before bed>75 min game and now I remember why I stopped playing this two years ago. it was a good game too, but come on. gambling over an hour of time on a single match, fuck
>>585217609she's like a gnat compared to the new crew
>>585217534Mina is too hard to play for the audience
why do people afk and farm when we are winning????
>>585217368They'd be two different facades thoughLash's self imposedDanny's forced by someone else
>>585217368i dont get it why would killing prospective buyers cause value to go up
>>585217786not that i mean this its so distracting
>>585217612That sounds either good or bad news which means theyll be closer to releasing the next major update again if everything is being worked on at the same timeAnd now more hands free from the map rework can work on other things too
>>585217975Those pawpads are distracting alright
>>585217597I fear the grape drink more after getting caught in there once and having my asshole ripped open. Also the jungle creeps hurtAt least with with the Chinatown broadcast I can bait people into trying to gank me
Anooon, I feel your hatred for Violet, It was a mistake, a mistake you can correctSummon the Hidden King and things will be as they should be
>>585217580them some captain underpaints lookin dogs
>>585217227
>>585217597Bell tower has been free sinners in all of my standard matches, none of the shitlow retards even know what the fucking gong means
newish player here, what do you do if you win your lane but your others don't? I try talking to them to farm some neutral creeps, do some boxes and shit but I just get called a nigger which I don't mind but come the fuck on, stop pressing W and feed nonstop.
When are we getting a hero whose wish is just to fuck other peoples wishesAnd I dont mean some noble negro shit like SolomonI mean just a retard jestermaxxing
>>585215041>Venator can never be a good character because he's le pros favorite m1gger
>>585218160if you win your lane you should immediately go gank the worst performing lane
>>585218129danny's ult does a shitload of damage if you use it on retards climbing up the rope
they dropped the ball on the Archmother starting beat so much
>>585218204why would Dynamo have a dick? didn't his entire body got eviscerated?
>>585218204God i wanna suck rat dick so badly
>>585218160the answer you won't like:struggle bus your way into getting 15 wins on 3 characters you like, play ranked, climb ranked.the answer you will be ok with:win your lane, immediately go gank other lanes and help them push/killthe answer you REALLY won't like:you should be able to carry those people to a point your MMR gets high enough you stop getting them(a lot of the time)
What the absolute fuck is going on with this matchmaking?My queues take five minutes and when I finally get in 9 out of 10 games are a violent stomp, win or lose
>>585218067but i like violet
>>585218121what's point blank for
>>585218176Sorry, can't do that in chungus wholesome family friendly game.
>>585218418Hero priority tokens
IF I DIE, LET IT BE FLYING THE CHIMERA MARK 5
>>585218375https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAg0klZlAA
Just hatecrimed a silver player AMA
>cant open build and forced to watch the hiddenking/archmother intro for the 1000th timethanks
>>585218429it makes the jetpack do more damage
>>585218484i love how much of a shill he ishe's not even a spokeperson he's a flying billboard for the company
yamato is really fun, but what do I do in a losing game? it feels tough to solo carry as her.
>>585218421Anon, The Archmother feels your love for Violet, She can make her yours and yours aloneSummon the Archmother and her bosom will be your pillow
>>585218601I dislike how both of the fairfax reps are low tier wagies we need some of the top brass
>Harrow ult>"don't look at her or you'll lose all your stamina!">look away>still lose staminaok
>>585218121point blank isn't great since mid to late game most of his damage comes from his 1. it's an option but I wouldn't choose it over sharpshooter.cold front is a meme. yes it does a bit of dam and cools down the jetpack but hte souls are better gone into other options.>no sharpshooteradd sharpshooter as a mandatory itemqsr is good imbue on his 1 but it's mostly a playstyle choice
>>585218664Mags is one of their top designers and is paid a small fortune. She's pretty high up, but not a manager.
sex with rem goodnight sex with rem
>instead of banning cheaters yoshi puts them into lpq (so other people being punished get free wins) and then lets them back into ranked is this the most retarded system ever?
>>585215693Victor shouldn't have the T3 upgrade on his ult that reduces his 240s ult by 95s, down to 145
>stamina mastery + arcane surge on ShivAny thoughts? Setting up infinite 2's feels like a bitch and I always find myself short on movement in the late game. Is two slots too much of a price to mitigate that?
why does harrow ult do more damage than seven ult
I just dont see a world where Danny isnt an unironic shill because off how much he talks up Mcginnis tooAnd I dont mean as a GENIUS INVENTOR ASSET OF FAIRFAX but as an actual coworker friend
>>585218863it also goes through walls for some fucking reason
>>585218823Stam mast can be good, but arcane surge is bait on shiv. Depends on what kind of mobil you feel you need. If you can't chase, get a phantom strike, if you need to get around to fights, majestic leap, if you can't get away, warp stone.
>throw every game I dont get danny>use token on danny>teammate abandons 15 minutes inI guess I deserved that
>>585218534Will the Doorman ever be picked with money on the line in the next 10 years? Or is he just le funni joke character?
>>585218746>most of his damage comes from his 1incorrect
This is a great change ... if only Warden wasn't one of the shittiest characters in the game right now >>585218863Powercreep, not a good sign when the game isn't even in public beta yet
I main Geist, Harrow and Graves, what does it tell you about me?
>>585218940Doorman buff 3 balance patches from now. He'll be picked again, but then everyone will realize he sucks to play against then he'll be kneecapped for another few months. This cycle repeats forever.
>>585218952>Lowest net worth on your team>Probably lowest damage (besides harrow), tooI can see why YOUR 1 doesn't deal the most damage
>>585218979>Geist, HarrowMILF lover>GravesPDF file Epstein disciple>what does it tell you about me?You think that age is just a number
>>585205898yuritroons are not right in the head and project their delusions on whatever they fancy
>just want to play ranked and rank up>constantly losing back to back matches because 1 teammate is always feeding
>>585219091>least damage nope
I got a 600MB update but no patch notes ?Also, friendly reminder HarrowGODS are built different.
Anyone tried this? It just seems hella suss to download some client to play some jump maps/routes
>teammate plays warden>we losestop playing this fucking guy nothing he does is good
>the two girlboss heroes are utterly fucking brokenI hate the last two bitches, the chink and the nurse are so stupid its not even funny, fuck it I want to go back to Wardenburger Overflow at this rate anything away from this meta.
>>585218863Her ult is retarded>basically Deckard's sleep ult>but instead of procking sleep, procs hard CC>can proc multiple times in a row instead of once only>also deals fuckton of damage>also can move and aim while the ult is up
>>585219319all of them are broken in low elo (99% of players)
>>585218863because seven has been repeatedly nerfed because valve doesn't understand win rates
>>585219178Wow that's a dogshit build. No wonder you're doing that little damage kek.
>>585219178>pb what is going on there buddy
>>585219178>>585218952jesus fucking christ, dude.
Calico licks Ava's pussy pussy for sure right?
>Favorite character is Seven>Everyone says he's dogshit and it is a waste putting all the farm on this character
>>585219178if your drifter and wraith weren't lobotomites you would've only had done more damage than the support character on your team
>>585219287My schizo theory is that Harrow was supposed to win but Yoshit rigged the vote last minute so we could end this roster on a high note.Can you imagine the ABSOLUTE state of doompilling the playerbase would've gone through if Violet was the last to release ?
>>585219560Not really.Seven is just the most honest m1 carry. He's not overpowered, he's not really underpowered. If you pilot him properly he can do well. His ult (assuming you also pick up unstoppable) is really good area denial for objectives. Until you get to Ascendant rank into Eternus, he's perfectly fine.
Is Harrow even good? She deals so little damage. I get that she can heal but not dealing damage is a really nbig deal in deadlock. Even Rem outdamages her.
>>585219753it's not a big deal when you can heal as much as she does
>>585218863Seven has had literally every part of his kit nerfed repeatedly for two years straight and Harrow just came out
>>585219753She's not good its her ult that's totally broken just like Rat King
>>585219713wtf are you talking about? both are OP aoe sloppers, no one would care which was last
who calls a lollipop, a lolly?
>>585219753She's very very good. AoE denial ult plus comically large healing at all game stages makes her a menace. She's also surprisingly tanky because of how much regen her leeches give.
>>585217549>where's the AOE slopvictor, holliday barrels, mina aoe ult, rem ult, geist bomb, talon ult, infernus ult
>>585216238Silver is dying from cirrhosis, she can't have 3 stamina. We should be thankful she has 2
Is Paige's ult the ONLY ult that goes on cooldown when the ult button is pressed no matter what? Every other ult does not go on cooldown when interrupted by the enemy during the casting animation before the ult effect happens
im done playing until dannynigger gets nerfed
>>585219753Ult forces the enemy team off objectives for 8 seconds.>knock her down!unstoppable. indom. counterspell.>get behind her!good players will put their back to a wall>don't look at her!you're dead now>kill her before she ultsshe self heals more for more damage than you deal (hyperbolic)>just kill the enemy team!she heals entire health bars (tanks included) in less than one magazine which she can dump rapidly due to self-boosting with her 2
>>585219753She makes people invincible and has an op ult who cares if you deal minimal damage
>>585216238Downgrade her animationsDrop her model's quality, no more tail swishesDown to 1 stamina with no regen if she's moving at all
>>585219928if you slowing hex him as his jetpack is overheating (it makes a distinct sound) it'll explode mid-air and force him to fall to the ground
>>585219836Old timey nurses.
>>585220023yes goy just slowing hex the guy at the perfect moment while hes raping you with napalm from 50m above you its easy
>to get cooldown reduction on lasso you have to upgrade it to tier 3>to get cooldown reduction on a MASSIVE fear inducing AoE that also does damage...you have to upgrade the ult...a single time I keep saying Holliday is stuck in 2024/early 2025 how the fuck does that even make sense?
>>585219914Happens all the time with Danny ult. It goes on cooldown way before it actually connects.
>>585219914Bebop ult starts CDing the moment you start the channel.
>>585219914can confirm that danny's ult bugs the fuck out and goes on CD if you connect with even the smallest lip of terrain in the gamei've been stuck grabbing air for 5 seconds when an enemy just bounces over a tiny ledge multiple times
SURELY the item update is soon since they were fine with swapping its release with CNS?SURELY the hotpoo pve mode is soon since theres a ton of assets in the files?:)
>>585219753Her healing is genuinely disgustingly overpowered in lane, in the mid game, and late game and she has Seven ult but better. Her low damage and divability are meant to be her drawbacks but the first two points massively outweigh them.
>6 new heroes>not a single one is m1Dog shit patch
will street brawl ever be fun again?
>>585220284rat is m1he's not good at it tho
>>585220213>item updateEarliest possible release date is mid December, probably a month or two after that most likely.>pve Still in playtesting and is ages away, might get scrapped entirely.
>>585220319That’s like saying victor is a carry but he is actually tank
anyone else here play Deadlock? its kinda fun lol
>>585220397But Victor is a carry?
>>585220306Disable every ult when playing streetbrawl, problem fixed
>>585216741I personally don't think more heroes with aoe ult is such a big deal. It's not like the enemy can be more than 6 people anyway.The actual issue is that the newly released heroes haven't had their cd:s nerfed properly yet. And also maybe that the current midboss design is bad. How you play around teamfight ult is that you counter-tempo them, but currently the cd:s are too short and midboss is to influential.CD nerfs, buffs to rift and urn and a rework of the midboss pit and the falling crystal mechanic should do the trick.
>>585220284Nurse is m1, she's just the first m1 healer.
>>585220348>>585220213Well get a balance patch for the new heroes by the end of october then another balance patch for everyone at the end of the ranked seasonThen an item update in decemberThen the next major update which will be PvE+6 new heroes+whatever other shit they can think of in May
>>585220397victor is a carry wtf u talkin about willis
>>585218182Venator was never bad, most Venator players are just shit aimlets
>>585208761>90% of the release roster is unplayable then there's a problemIt's been like that since OGNB.
>>585220493He frontlines and tanks he can carry but he is not a backliner
>>585220120wrong, before the beam comes out (the casting animation), you can get interrupted and the ult does NOT go on cooldown
>>585220478Her gun is poop
>>585218182Venator is a good hero with a bad winrate because you have to aim and position well and most people are bad at aiming and positioning, he also needs support from his team since he's easy to run at which is another thing he's unlikely to have in MM. Another reason they love him in comp play is gutshot and his ult give him a good lane and let him be extremely active early.
>>585220631Yeah that's not the channel, that's the cast.
fellow harrowbrosisters, do you really need to buy ricochet on here? I know that her heal+richochet works but I don't see any scenario where in you need to buy it
That fact that almost every character gets complained about proves this game is actually really well balanced. If everyone is Hitler, then no-one is.
>>585220693no buy for ult + utilgun is a throw since you're a sup not a dps
>>585219557Calico cornered me in an alley at gunpoint and let her cat milk my cock half a dozen times
>>585220693It's my late-game teamfight option. Once I got a defensive, a boundless, and my tempo then I pick a ricochet to top up everyone at once.
>>585220693It's a late game buy the same as the item is on carries who aren't Wraith, don't rush it.
>>585220741No one complains about Warden anymore.
>>585220693It's the hypothetical "omg I'm gonna heal my entire game in a big fight!!!" win more item when in reality you'll just be flying ahead over everyone with your ult denying 50% of the playspace and if you actually need to heal someone before they die you'd rather just focus-fire one person quickly and use the souls for something else.
Why do so many eastern europeans play Deadlock? Literally every match I got 2 or 3 of these subhumans chatting shit in their down syndrome language
I dont think its healthy for deadlock to have a pure healer hero>BUT REMHes not a pure healer
>>585220870i'm gonna get big and round off of your sinners
so has the "Rat king is OP" testament finally passed?
>>585220869Этo нaшa игpa дeбил
>>585220869It's a Valve game, you're gonna get Russian players
>>585220870I’ve been thinking something similar desu. I don’t think anyone heals as well as nurse does. My eyes pop anytime she’s healing me because I still can’t believe how good it is.
Why not buy debuff onhit items on Harrow and apply cancer to the enemy since she has really high buildup per shot
>>585220870Kelvin
>>585220741Baba is not okay though
>>585221014Because you want to spend 90% of your time shooting teammates instead
>>585220693The real Harrow Sauce is Healing Tempo so your team gets perma attack speed. People overcook her healing when they sorta hit an "effective cap" to it way sooner than they realize.Don't overthink her. Grab Titanic Mag and Heroic Aura for your gun spike. Green spike os healing booster and a mobility item. Purple spike is more in the air still, I'm not sure what's good but probably some combination of qsr, extra charge, extra spirit and slowing hex. Then rush a Healing Tempo and build survivability and Ricochette/Spirit scaling.
>>5852208691. free to play2. valve game3. can run on a potato
>>585220751you are one very lucky man
>>585220682oh you are an illiterate single digit iq brown, my bad
>>585220741Anytime I play Mo and Krill and do even slightly well it sends the enemy team into a frothing rage The only fair character in the game is viscous
So when will baba be actually nerfed?
>>585220869Valve game :)
>>585220693what >>585220750 kinda said.prioritize cooldown and unstop for ult because its basically a win condition for objectives.it works when it works but usually your team isn't all standing within a few feet of eachother, you should be getting more single-targethealing stuff for your tank/carries like tempo and more ammo/fire rate
Why are the threads so chill now?
>>585221049I don't wanna, but also she applies inhib/silencer in 4 shots with really high firerate when you have leech stacks so it doesn't seem that bad if you can afford it
>>585219465>play combo character>builds m1 When exactly will you shoot with sharpshooter? It does not work on 2 or 3 scaling, meme build.Maybe if you were full gun I could give it a pass
>>585221330It's the optimal thing to do. You're not a damage dealer you're a support.
Besides unstoppable what are the dumbest buffs Harrow can extend?What are the strongest enemy buffs Harrow can leech? Shield/barriers?
https://fxtwitter.com/Art_EtrA/status/2113126078588068238NEVER SHOW FEARNO MATTER THE ODDS
>>585221373Warden is so fucking cool...
You now remember when Haze was in every single game and her ult was a giant AOE
>try to ult with vindicta>it just fires a normal ass bulletfixed by 2028 surely
>>585221424she's STILL IN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAMEIT NEVER STOPPED
>>585221360>When exactly will you shoot with sharpshooter?If you aren't Hellen Keller-tier then always, retard
Syringes suckShe should have a medigun.
>>585221370scourge is strongtranny long legs, lycan form and warden ult can all be reduced by leeches which is giga strong
>>585221424>you now remember when haze was in every single gameshe still is
>>585221373he really is the protagonist of this game
>>585221360>When exactly will you shoot with sharpshooter?The marks, same thing with Express Shots. I still think Express Shots is better because you can pop a mark twice in one shot. Mark stacks btw if they step on multiple missiles.
>>585221537>tranny long legs, lycan form and warden ult can all be reduced by leechesWAIT WHAT
>>585221424We should bring it back seven and victor have big circles and victors is not even an ult
Silver gets countered by literally every single one of the new heroes lol
>>585220741I've been playing Deadlock with my brother for the last year now and he gets pissed off easily and at this point he's 100% gotten pissed about every single character in the game even the ones the community thinks are shit
>>585218182Venator isn't a bad character, but he could use some touch up on his skills, particularly making his 2 and 3 more reliable. Also for the love of God give him his sprint speed back.
Reminder that Harrowfags are bragging about their fucking Street Brawl wins with broken brawl charactersI personally know one and all he did was spam Rat King, Paige and other broken shit that makes it unplayable
How do I play da dwifta when Harrow is in the game
Haze and Wraith are NEVER fucking leaving the most played listsTheyre the anti mage and phantom assassins of the cast
>>585221827you don't unfortunately
>>585220434They just need to nerf the new heroes aoe sizes more in SB like they did with lots of the heroesvictors aoe is so small in sb its almost hilarious starting out
Is Deadman honest or dishonest?
>>585221424>>585221513>>585221543Haze ult needs to be made a skillshot I'm sick of this no-skill character
>>585221693>countered by literally every single one of the new heroesBecause both are designed terribly.
>>585221903He is a flyer therefore dishonest>>585221916Your metal skin Saar?
>>585221903One of the most dishonest characters in the entire game (in pubs)
>>585221903I love Danny but he plays keepaway. Dishonest
>>585220870They should nerf the ever loving shit out of her heal just because sustain lanes are boring gameplay for everyone involved. They can buff something else in her kit like the action speed buff if she is too weak, but don't make the heal the strong part of her kit.
I'm such a fuckup I only play bot games to not embarass real players on my team with my skill issue
Look at his winrateDanny is as honest as VenatorExtremely honest
>>585221916Haze's dagger could act like an actual tranquilizer, giving you a window to dispel it before putting you to sleep.
>>585221971>Your useless shit item that does nothing, sir?You're better off spending those souls on Stamina Mastery and just dashing away from her, offensive items to nuke her or pretty much anything other than Metal Skin
SWAPPING NOW
>play Seven>suddenly I turn into the biggest tryhardI dont know why but its only Seven, any other hero I just fuck around and I dont care if I win the match.
>>585222081Don't worry, if you realize you're bad then you're probably going to be better than your 12 year old russian haze teammate, just queue up for a standard because you'll never get better playing vs bots
>>585222081Awww you're cute
>>585221903dishonesthe's too difficult to play against in lane for a majority of matchups, he can do 1500 damage with his ult, he has insane chase, he gets his jetpack back too quickly
>>585222117>admits its skill issueCrazy self report
My wife Violet
haze is bad, if you lose to her you and your team are feeding retardsshe needs her aoe ult back just to be viable at this point
>>585220693I think if you want to get a gun t4 the spirit overflow of probably better
>>585222198What's holding him back is how buggy his skills are like the missiles sometimes don't spawn like on ramps or stairs, and the chimera can't really hit elevated targets either, ult is only usable outdoors
>>585222267She doesn’t look like that in-game at all.
>Holliday>Paradox>Mina>RemHow honest are my mains?
>>585222081Get a friend who is also shit, queue up together and learn. Pick some easy characters you like and have fun. If people give you shit just loudly shit yourself on mic while apologizing and they'll back down.
>>585222315>guaranteed pick is bad because... i said so okay!!!!nah
>>585222336Extremely dishonest
>>585222315True, she is just a shittier victor
>>585222081oh my god what a cutie look at ustop being a pussy anon and just play the game that's the whole point of the hidden mmr/ranked system
Violet deserves to be raped because of her attitude
>>585222364>I go alone and get pickedAnother crazy self report
>>585222336xister...
>get violet stunned (even though i was behind a wall) into a nurse harrow ultmight as well take my hands off the keyboard what the fuck went wrong with this game
>>585222376I'm Doorman and Lash, how honest am I
>>585222336Paradox is honest (dogshit outside of comp)
>>585222083>Venator>honestVenatorniggers are the biggest persecution complex gays in the playerbaseYour character is neither bad nor honest, most Venator players are just terrible at the game, if you play against a good one you'll see that he's equal parts carry and offtank with a hitscan pure damage ult and a stun that lets him win any fight in an enclosed space or if you're even near a wall which is 70% of the time.
>>585219959yeah ok satan
>>585222336You did not play the game.
>>585219753I can tell you the truth about her. Her first can drain weak heroes in seconds, some people seem to underestimate it.Her second is useless.Her third is kinda good when you have time to switch, most of the times you don't, so it's shit.Her ult is absolute terror, IDK why tf it's not nerfed yet. The most OP ult in game perioid, stronger than Seven's ult.
Another day of long queues. Funnily enough my fastest queues were after 11pm during degen hours.
And what do my mains say about me?BebopRemDynamoShivDanny
>>585222617you like to be incredibly annoying
>>585222248Overconfident retard relishes in his stupidity
>Seven>Victor>Haze>Drifter>Graves I’m the only honest anon on dlg
>>585222617You like to touch kids
>>585222667Only two of those are honest
>>585222641I mean you are the one seething about not being able to move out of a pizza slice LOL. Reason metal skin is not bought is because m1 and orange items are ass
I think Mirage is fun to play
>>585222723Seven and Drifter are not honest
>>585222641There is a finite amount of fun to be had in every DL match and I plan to try to hoard all of it
>Lash (highest priority at all times)>Holliday>Danny>Graves
>>585222769Then there are no honest heroes
Who is actually the most honest hero though
>>585222769Yes but victor and haze are
>>585222768He is, but at the same time he's lame, you need like 9 seconds to stack your third for what 1k dmg?You won't be able to do that in a fight.
>>585222814Infernus
>>585222769Why is Drifter not honest
>>585222814Rosita Lopez
>>585222814Billy it's not even closeThe existence of parries cucks him from utilizing one of his abilities (blasted) to its fullest potential because at any moment somebody could parry him and he will proceed to get stunned and take 25% more damage from ALL sources
>>585222661Your movement bro?
Is McGinnis a honest pick?I feel like I win my lane much more easily when playing her but I'm not sure if I'm just good with her or if I'm getting carried by a broken OP character
Abrams is the only honest hero
Alright his night shift usage is down to zero and his winrate is 44% when the fuck are they reworking him? And how long before the november patch of doom that makes the march 06 patch look fine in comparison?
>>585221373warden is unironically cool as fuck
>>585223025Ginnis got hit with the nerf bat a bunch of times she's not OP anymore
>>585216078playing her against danny actually makes me want to kill myself. all the other new characters are fine though.
Playing Holliday feels like the game is laughing at you teehee you need to aim your lasso during an eye burning teamfight mo and krill? can just press 4 on you :D violet? can stun you by looking at you harrow? can do an aoe slow and damage and control by...pressing 4 in your general direction
>>585223085This is paige's daughter
>>585218182Venator is so hot
I think Valve should take off the kiddie gloves and allow the characters to call each other slurs
Oh my word we are having FUN! I have never once had Harrow on my team, and every single game she has stomped absolute shit.
>>585223129Holligay is a humiliation ritual when Bebop has your ult on a 12 sec cooldown
>it’s that game where the doorman and mnk duo decide to focus you all gameI won but I am still angry
>>585223129and yet she's one of the top pick/ban characterscurious
>>585223053rework him how?
>>585222661Consider that if you dont buy metal skin your chances of victory drop to 0%
>Nurse ult makes you look away>Painter ult makes it so you can't see>Chess ult puts visual clutter everywhere>Danny is in the skyThis patch is just so annoying to deal with
>>585223129MoeCringe can't move you away in his ult, oh wait he can
>>585219583oh yeah?Well check out this other game I had
>>585223129>Stomps, stuns, and melees you, hits the lasso for free, drags you halfway across the map to her time while spamming barrels on youNo.... Bros..... Holliday....... Ffvvccckkkk she has to work so hard for her damage bros it's not far
>>585223235>mnkHoly shit when did Valve add them
>>585219836A pedophile who loves fucking little boys
>>5852160784 StaminaReplace her useless discount Bebop hook dash with an aoe ability because Silver has the literal worst farm in the game
There is nothing more cancerous than playing against multiple fliers
Worst 60 minutes of my life
>>585223314Yeah that's awfulNerf shiv though
>do a standard match just to try out a hero I haven't played yet>somehow get queued against the lowest of the low lobotomites>it's their first match or something, there's no way>I feel bad about stomping them and learn nothing
what rank do I have to hit to stop getting retarded bio foids on my team?
>>585223552>Harrow>Ivy>Vic>Graves>CelesteOnly thing that could be any worse is if they had a viscious instead of a ven. What a fucking nightmare comp.
>>585222331Yeah, she looks like this
>team has harrow, danny, rat king, and silverDo we win or lose?
>>585223132her name is yiffany sherlock paige
I don't like how big Danny's kamikaze ult is, seems like very little risk. Plus he recovers fucking fast anyway
yamato is so fucking braindead
>>585223673Harrow and Rat King actually cover Silver's weakness which is not having a real frontline and running out of health. Its very winnable
Now that 4chan was down the day after Harrow's release, her downplayers haven't had the chance to downplay her bullshitHer heal is pretty fucking strong
>>585223745It should do a massive AOE when it lands so you can kill their entire team
>>585223745Kamikaze is not his ult, his ult is just a single-target suplex with 0 AOE even though it looks like it would have AOE
>>585223659Nice image, maybe I should save i->yuritrooneryNevermind
Genuinely how do I get out of Initiate, bro? Literally every single match I have teammates feeding the shit out of the enemy and getting 0 counters, while the enemy are SAS and know how to counter every hero perfectly
>>585223823>>585223890it should have lash's old 360 degree ground pound knockup so it's less awkward for him to escape
>>585223132no that's still just paige, in the deadlock world you grow dog ears and tails over time from absorption of dog cum, something paige does A LOT
>>585223053I think current night shift has gone full retard 2bh, no Abrams, no Billy, no mirage.
>>585223745>misjudge my ult so my enemy lives with 1 hp>he kills me and I explode on himThis ability might be too forgiving
>>585223025McGinnis is very easy but she's honest enough I guess. Gun build is more honest than turret or ult build.
>>585223806Which is whack, deadlock shouldnt have a dedicated healer
>THEY ASKED FOR THIS>AWOOOOOOOOOOO>*flies up out of range slightly*Another effortless victory for Fairfax Industries!Get your very own Chimera Mk1 today and be like me!
>>585204725>>585204725>>585204725recycle
>>585223350You're hosing your damage with that build. You are -10king yourself for not building sharpshooter lmao
>>585223921Keep rolling the dice and just focus on playing better
if you outrun danny's ult it just cancels lmao
Almost at 500 games of Doorman.I love this character like you wouldn't believe. Never thought I could replace Shadow Demon but this guy does it for me.
>>585223636For most games the upper middle are the least foids so high oracle-low ascendant. At the highest ranks there is a lot boosted ones
>>585222984>being an unpredictable little shit using light melees at random moments to proc his OP unlimited ammo passive and confusing the enemy as to whether they should parry and if they parry you just get to run them over >honest
>>585224061how can you tell how much damage an item is adding?
>>585224168Look at damage charts in games you buy/don't buy unless the item itself is dealing damage, then you can just check breakdowns.
>>585223806Its pretty wild they gutted the heal scaling on Kelvins ult a while back but Harrow can just full heal you on a basic ability.
>>585224226I wish she had less healing and more buffing
>>585217227unlock order 1234upgrade order 221413214433
WHY ARE REMS ALWAYS STEALING ALL THE FUCKING KILLS AND SINNERS
>>585216987his 1 should be the best part of his kit, his 2 is already badly tuned where conserving fuel stop being a thing and you just want to hold space and mash 2 during fights once the cooldown is low enough
What does dlg think of my tier list?
>>585224505I steal enemy sinners because they're yummy and I'm a hungry little griffin. Our own sinners go to our carries though.
is it always the same guy agendaposting and lying about graves being bad?
>>585218601i really hope they don't make him Lash 2 where he's just playing the heel, i really like the idea he not only loves what he does but also genuinely believes in it
>>585223305I think they should lean more into the bodyguard aspect of his character instead of whatever he's meant to be right now. Port and nado (with a rework easily fit that bill). Mark sucks for Mirage cause all of his dmg is in the mark but you don't get the satsification from ever hitting it cause dispel is the best item in the game. And beetle is just again easily dispelled and more of an annoying stall ability than something apart of an actual kit.
>>585217227just play lightbringerthere are so many worthless builds being used its hard to tell what people are thinking with some of these
>>585222524>and a stun that lets him win any fight in an enclosed space or if you're even near a wall which is 70% of the time.tales from shitlowif you are mentally stunted enough to follow venator, shiv or any other hallway anus examiner through a doorway you deserve to diethe hitscan ult is scary but he's an m1, just break los, he has no movement abilities and needs to skillshot for it
>>585220680>he also needs support from his team since he's easy to run at which is another thing he's unlikely to have in MM.where does this myth come from? his whole thing is self-peel, unless he's somewhere he shouldnt be his 2 and 3 are meant to make him impossible to initiatei'd say his traps could do with either instant arm to catch people running or just be indestructible (if they're going to allow gay talents' to be) but that's it
And why the fuck hasn't bebop been kneecapped yet?
Man this board is dead
>>585224946I always thought it was weird that Mirage is canonically a professional security guard and he has zero abilities that guard or boost his allies' resistances in any way.
>>585223053https://streamable.com/o1fjvr
>>585222156>when I get my 126 games played 30% wr character in ranked
>>585224690no, I've sometimes downplayed her because I can aim and hate how powerless it feels not being able to just m1gger someone to death.
