>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>/wowfg/ Guilds<Daybreak Company> NA Alliance RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj<FUN HAVERS> NA Alliance PvEhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w<Wrench> EU Horde PvEhttps://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB>Previously on /wowfg/>>585189191
the raped
I am hoping the regional split is going to make the community less faggy, I have never been on a server with as many faggots as this beta, even back in the last wow bet, the wotlk on wasn't nearly this full of retarded third worlders
>>585221815What's the cope gonna be after they fix the blatantly unfinished spell scale tuning?
>>585221881Yeah the asians and europeans were fucking insufferable Dont worry, launch will be betterCompare era (NA) to turtle (international)Turtle was fucking unplayable if you did any group content or talked to any of those fucking subhumans
can't believe it's over
Careful, Big Bell... careful...
>>585221881The beta trade chat showed how mindbroken by Idpol mutts really are
>>585222139>mindbroken by Idpol >mutts
>>585221815Was it really such a bad thing to have SOME strong AoE in the game? What's their problem being so chicken shit afraid of it. Just jack up the mana cost or throw a threat modifier on it so the shaman eats shit or has no follow up if they go too hard, but at least let them have an iconic spell.
alli PvP or Olympus PvE
The amount of RMT and botting in Forever is going to make the original Classic look like a joke.
>>585221956NTA but they aren't going to fix chain lightning. They said they don't want it to hit hard like it used too which is all Ele shamans want.I will be just like shamans saying>"We want elemental mastery back!"then shit posters will say>"But you already got 'elemental mastery'. :)"Instead it's just going to be>"We want chain lightning to deal damage again!"shitposters will say>"But they already 'buffed' chain lightnings scaling since the beta. :)"
>>585221881>enter EU stress test>[1] teldrasill : any femboys?>95% are female night elfs
>>585222203This has nothing to do with nerfing aoe. ALL the ele sham spells have horrific sp scaling right now.
playing horde on beta because im going to play alliance on release
>>585222139Old people love talking about politics and wow is full of 30 year old boomers.
>>585222217What's the pay to win in GW2? Also they're not even in California
>>585222203Chain Lightning could one shot people in PvP with Elemental Mastery and they said on the class podcast they don't want Elemental Shamans to be able to do that. They killed Chain Lightning which is Elemental Shamans most iconic spell and they want you to just use Lava Burst instead.
>>585222067show me less of this content
>>585222246you scared of fem night elves?
>>585222246wtf should I be playing on EU servers? I'm west coast tho..
>>585222195uh oh
Is the stress test done?
>>585222383
>>585222497ye
>>585222670whats the difference between a guy being behind the female character you like and you jerking off to porn made by another dude?
>>585222686Do you know if I'll have to download another client for the launch?
>>585222849i dont do either of those things you faggot
should have just deleted fire nova entirely and made chain lightning hit even harderbatching and critical elemental mastery are both gone already. it can't be any more threatening in pvp than mind blast+SW:D and incinerate+conflag are going to belet elemental shaman's identity be the caster spec with strong 3 target cleave and weak 5+ aoe (balance's hurricane is good now, by the way)
>>585222849The porn guy isn't cat fishing you
>>585222854We can pre-install the main version of Forever right now and if you already have the beta installed it shares most that data.
>>585222854there is going to be a launch patch, who knows how big it will be
>>585222849ask the whitemane spammer, he's a nigger
>>585222939the porn guy is trying to get you to pay for his patronjust dont fall for either
>>585222919I don't know why they are so scared, the spell already has damage falloff built into it.
>>585223005vs Staff of Israel
>>585223005
>>585223041That's entirely different, that's transactional.Cat fishing is evil and playing with your feelings.
>>585221691<Remigration> is recruiting /vg/>PvP>horde>EST>20mjoin brothers. even if you're a casualhttps://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxfthreadposter, can i get an inclusion?
>>585223005this is a warrior nerfI wonder what they did for my shamans favorite staff
>>585223093gotta grind the new r14 each season instead of being able to skip everything till naxx/aq out of the gate
>>585222670it all comes down to the name. if it's a female character with some female or anime name, then it's some faggot 100% of the time. if the name is a joke or just random nickname, then it's fine
>>585222348Just put something like -50% damage against players on there. No need to ruin the class because of a minigame.
>>585223093>premierthat's the bad versioneither it's easier to get or you can't get the real rank 14s early to make sure you use pvp gear over bis raid gear.
>>585222939Catfish? I'm not trying to crack them or giving them gold just because they're a girl.
>>585223106>feelingslook at this fag
>random nobodies are getting nearly 100k views in a day for installing some addons and yapping about itis it your turn, 30-something 4chan boomer? is it time to finally start a youtube gaming channel?
>>585223005not pictured:>you now need 500 extra spell power to deal the same damage with chain lightning
>>585223169Sorry, aggrend shit himself in a rage over fighting a shaman in classic wow and since its the "hordes paladin" it will get further and further nerfs.
the texture downscaling they added to fix the low framerates is so poorly implemented sometimes it just flashes between normal res and low res while you stand there
>>585223214>Fag!>Proceeds to erp with another man
>>585223005we wanted to make getting a new weapon feel better as a spellcaster, so we doubled the spellpower on them and nerfed chain lightning by 76% to compensate
>>585223241I have a well paying job where I work from home.No way I'm giving that up to be a clown for zoomers growing up without a father.
>>585223005Very minor buff. Probably not even considerably better than say Illusionary Rod.
I'm fat, gay and retarded.
>>585223358its just porn dudeno one is falling in love lol
>>585223243there are going to be 1 handers with 500 spell power at level 60
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585223241I like being a nobody in game. If I wanted I could just post my wow character on my drawing socials and I'd get followers sending me free shit but I'd rather not especially when they can see me online and message me all the time. One already sent me an 5060ti recently.
>>585223542>RUNS FROM*fixed
>>585223569lmao gottemAlex is a dwarf and bald
>>585223241I have absolutely no drive to "create content", i'm much happier doing 9-5 I can forget the moment I check out.
>>585223484from MC of course, gotta keep it horizontal after all
>>585222246seeing the spam from EU was really eye opening
>>585223241>the instantaneous larp copes this post generatedkek
>>585223005this dropped for me off a wolf in duskwood many moons ago
>>585223458paladin bro...
so when do the classes allegedly come to their own? Even at 30 which took me like 3 weeks of playing it still felt like im in a straight jacket
>>585223798no it didntthats not how loot tables work
>>585223403>I have a well paying job where I work from home.>No way I'm giving that up to be a clown for zoomers growing up without a father.Why not do both?
>>58522383760. Any other answer is cope.
Forever has been a massive shitshow. I want Classic Fresh to rinse my mouth of the Forever taste.
shaman is a support class and contributes a lot of damage with windfury totem, so that's why elemental shaman does 40% less dps than enhancement shaman
>>585222067Fuck this shill.
>>585224148seethe
>>585224184i think this is literally the mindset they are going for with their "dps budget per class" core concept they seem to have
>>585223093>powercreep
this autist is goodhttps://youtu.be/D6fmLPEcC-s?si=FCADIJUfYtaWocF4
>>585223837They nerfed so many classes their key abilities, dumbing their rotations down.It unironically feels like Classic- at this point. No fun allowed.Imagine playing a mage who with some practice was able to pull the entirety of Maraudon only to be told you aren't allowed to AoE more than 4 mobs ever again.Imagine playing an Ele Shaman who with enough gear could blow someone up every three minutes only to get your key ability deleted and spell scaling nerfed into the ground.These devs have no clue what they're doing. Should've just stuck with TBC talents like Epoch to prevent them from fucking up the balance too much. TBC makes every meme spec viable yet isn't completely casualised like Wrath. One step forwards and two steps back. Mind you these are the devs who hyped up a Spaghetti Meatball as their "secret" new MC boss.
>>585224278we have got to buy this nigga some turtlenecks or something
>extra critical strike and hit chance is secretly crit and hit rating>10 hit rating = 1% hit rating>14 crit rating = 1% crit>items with extra chance can cleanly be any multiple of 0.1%>crit ratings can't be except for 0.5% multiples>there's one item that says it gives you 0.7% crit but it's actually fucking lying to you and instead gives 10 crit rating and that's ~0.714% crit
>>585224184you dont need to bring more then a single shaman now so theres no reason to nerf the fuck out of them as a "support" class, especially when they buffed the fuck out of ret paladin which was alliances support class.
>all the doomsissies are still gonna buy the sub and login on 4th
>>585223093you do realise its worse now because you can grind r14 from nothn in 5-6 resets and everyone is going to have one if they want it rightthe ranks now have honor ceilings so they dont keep approaching infinity the more people grinded in them
>>585224358you need 2, air and windfury stack
>>585224278Yeah you can tell he is a genuine chud by his looks.Tot some faker.
>>585224421>"need"
>>585224446yes you need 2 because hunter is the best dps by a mile
Honestly even with all the shaman doomposting I still think theyre better than paladins right now. Enhancement is about equal to ret, but resto is much better than holy. Holy is worst healer and prot pala is worst tank
>guild wants to go alliance>dwarf players don't want to play shaman>shaman players don't want to play dwarfI guess we'll be getting the classic alliance experience
>>585224265That image was used to make fun of the people calling out all the powercreep in Forever when lvl 60 gear was clearly nerfed.
>>585224446you dont understandthe game which they are designing for entirely new players (they have said this repeatedly over weeks in basically every interview, podcast and video) is going to be so hard that you can only clear content with the optimal raid layout
>>585224519yeah except this time the horde will have a fuckton of paladins which sucksthe faction class asymmetry was so kino
>>585224507but that's okay because i hate paladins
>>585224519that shirt doesnt workbam fucking sucksbam always suckedfuck bamthe only redeeming part is that he now looks exactly like his dad used to look
>>585224616bam was always cool
>>585224519Why don't shamans want to play as a dwarf?These is nothing more shamanistic than to get piss drunk and sleep in a forest with the elements.
dwarf shamans are kinobut not bronzebeard ones tho...
>>585224507>Enhancement is about equal to retYeah the 7th dps is totally next to the 15th.
>>585224616But anon, he's the king of rock and roll
>>585224313>SEEMS LIKE THEY REALLY DIMBED THE ROTATIONS DOWN>log on classic>press 2 on my keyboard 300 times in a row per encounterjust kill yourself atp ledditard
anyone name reserving Nick German or can i take it
RP servers have the highest amount of dwarves
>>585224729>doesnt even sound funny when spoken>will get forcibly changed + tip of a 3 day vacationgo ahead and take it
>>585224519I'm going dwarf shaman on pvp, I still need to pick a good name though.
>>585224681which one is whichforever ret is positively pumping
>>585224507actually...shaman is worst tank so they're balanced and even
they need to add wildhammer tatoos for dwarf shamansand more customization options in general
>>585224761>make dwarf on rp server>join a guild with Clan at the end of its nameyep, it's gaming time
>>585224821ret is 7th and enh is 15th
Do you know how badly they needed to fuck up for me to not play? Me a fucking fresh addict not playing a "classic +" server, but thats Blizzard for you. Yall enjoy your sharding, worse specs, spell scaling and fart gas in every zone. Im over here praying they wont force that sharding shit on the next classic fresh.
>>585224487why are you people so fucking stupid. Blizzard is CLEARLY balancing and releasing patches so why do you expect retarded outliers like 'weaving' survival hunter to remain the same? broken brains I swear to god
I am the female gnome priest
>>585224519yeah ngl, UD got a whole fucking expansion setting them up to have pallysDwarfs have fuck all for shaman. At least give dwarf shammy a warpaint/tattoo option so they can look like Wildhammer.I also feel like they need something else for ghostwolf - it's way too much of an iconic WC3 horde thing.
>>585224910see you on the 4th etc
>>585224910no one knows who you are or cares
Damn I'm really undecided between warrior and paladin. I played warrior in classic because it was the better tank, and it seems like it's the case again. I wanted to try something in paladin but it seems like it's gonna be a dogshit tank. I just can't escape warrior...
>>585224930i dont care what shitters do, we need 2 shamans because we go fast
>>585225032Paladin, they're Faggrend's favourite class so they're immune to the nerfbat.
Guys, will there be a class/race restrictions on launch day? I haven't pre ordered the game but I don't want to lose my Gnome/Priest combo....
>>585224952i probably died somehow
>>585224487hunter is extremely mid, probably top 7 dpscasters will be assraping every physical because of armor changes
>>585225032Bears probably going to be the best tank. It has the best threat gen which means people can pump harder and harder.
>>585225131other than the skelfs why would there be?
Tanks and healers are getting uppity with the dungeon XP changes, talking about reserving all the loot for themselves and only inviting classes that won't compete with them for gear. We DPS should boycott any and all tanks or healers from our groups
>>585225125Prot pally is really shit and needs substantial work in order for it to keep up with warriors in raids.
>>585225131You can hop in day 1 with a retail sub, you just wont get to reserve your name, and that maay mean you might not be able to join the faction you want on the PvP server if the population is skewed too much, but wont be a problem on PvE or RP servers.
>>585225131i doubt they lock anything that would be against the megaserver, locked could have just been for the beta
>>585225183>talking about reserving all the loot for themselves and only inviting classes that won't compete with them for gearWe already did this though.
>>585225032Paladin isn't bad, it's like druid we're missing ton of abilities and talents to really get things going.Meanwhile prot wowyers at 30 are a god tier fun allowed class with even more to come.
>>585225043nothing in wow is hard lilbro. Calling people shitters is funny
>>585225174I think they will be good, but threat is a non-issue. Salvation is not a blessing anymore so it's gonna be everywhere.
>>585225242>PvP server if the population is skewed too much, but wont be a problem on PvE or RP servers.Oh okay. I will play on PvE anyway.
>>585225272i didnt say it was hard, i said we go fast
even with spell tuning aside because it can be "fixed" later on, the design principles of flattening elemental shaman's vanilla kit to force all of its relative power into a megabuffed fire nova was fucking retarded to begin with
>>585225125paladin was nerfed 3 weeks in a row
>>585225270Paladin is gonna suck because the moment there is a tank swap you stop getting mana from being healed.
>>585224791>female dwarf shaman>Thunder Thighs
>>585225345PvE NA alli might get locked because of asmon
>>585225295threats a pretty big deal, plenty of classes have to stop dps since they will pull threat from the tank. tank having more threat means those dps kill the boss quicker since they don't have to stop.
>remove all the "Improved" buff talents>make every buff in the game raid wide>every raid is just 8 classes + 32 of the most meta highest DPS classHope you're ready for 32 hunters in Phase 1, 32 warlocks in Phase 2, 32 Mages in Phase 3, 32 Warriors in Phase 4It's Aggrend's vision
Are Classic uncs really allergic to having more than 2 buttons for their rotations
>>585225420It's not anyone else's fault that you're autisticAlso raids are not even 40m
>>58522542032 shadow priests in hardcore
>>585225416I guarantee you threat will be a non-issue.
>>585225420>remove all the "Improved" buff talents>shaman still has themthanks
this talent is really gay and i don't like it
>>585224519I played fem dorf shammy on the stress test and it was good. I'll probably go with some unisex name when the game goes live so I could swap easily.Playing fem dorf with post-nut clarity debuff up ain't it.
>>585221691you guys need to bite the bullet and roll feral so we can have aura
>>585225412EU here.
patch today or is that cope?
>>585225420Not everyone is a sweat and people will want class variety to better share the loot.And let's not forget the person playing the class is more important than the class in non-autistic guilds.