>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesThe beta ends and stress test begins on October 21.Name reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>/wowfg/ Guilds<Daybreak Company> NA Alliance RP PvEhttps://discord.gg/YSfpYdHxfj<FUN HAVERS> NA Alliance PvEhttps://discord.gg/fAmNJnY5w<Wrench> EU Horde PvEhttps://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB>Previously on /wowfg/>>585189191
the raped
I am hoping the regional split is going to make the community less faggy, I have never been on a server with as many faggots as this beta, even back in the last wow bet, the wotlk on wasn't nearly this full of retarded third worlders
>>585221815What's the cope gonna be after they fix the blatantly unfinished spell scale tuning?
>>585221881Yeah the asians and europeans were fucking insufferable Dont worry, launch will be betterCompare era (NA) to turtle (international)Turtle was fucking unplayable if you did any group content or talked to any of those fucking subhumans
can't believe it's over
Careful, Big Bell... careful...
>>585221881The beta trade chat showed how mindbroken by Idpol mutts really are
>>585222139>mindbroken by Idpol >mutts
>>585221815Was it really such a bad thing to have SOME strong AoE in the game? What's their problem being so chicken shit afraid of it. Just jack up the mana cost or throw a threat modifier on it so the shaman eats shit or has no follow up if they go too hard, but at least let them have an iconic spell.
alli PvP or Olympus PvE
The amount of RMT and botting in Forever is going to make the original Classic look like a joke.
>>585221956NTA but they aren't going to fix chain lightning. They said they don't want it to hit hard like it used too which is all Ele shamans want.I will be just like shamans saying>"We want elemental mastery back!"then shit posters will say>"But you already got 'elemental mastery'. :)"Instead it's just going to be>"We want chain lightning to deal damage again!"shitposters will say>"But they already 'buffed' chain lightnings scaling since the beta. :)"
>>585221881>enter EU stress test>[1] teldrasill : any femboys?>95% are female night elfs
>>585222203This has nothing to do with nerfing aoe. ALL the ele sham spells have horrific sp scaling right now.
playing horde on beta because im going to play alliance on release
>>585222139Old people love talking about politics and wow is full of 30 year old boomers.
>>585222217What's the pay to win in GW2? Also they're not even in California
>>585222203Chain Lightning could one shot people in PvP with Elemental Mastery and they said on the class podcast they don't want Elemental Shamans to be able to do that. They killed Chain Lightning which is Elemental Shamans most iconic spell and they want you to just use Lava Burst instead.
>>585222067show me less of this content
>>585222246you scared of fem night elves?
>>585222246wtf should I be playing on EU servers? I'm west coast tho..
>>585222195uh oh
Is the stress test done?
>>585222383
>>585222497ye
>>585222670whats the difference between a guy being behind the female character you like and you jerking off to porn made by another dude?
>>585222686Do you know if I'll have to download another client for the launch?
>>585222849i dont do either of those things you faggot
should have just deleted fire nova entirely and made chain lightning hit even harderbatching and critical elemental mastery are both gone already. it can't be any more threatening in pvp than mind blast+SW:D and incinerate+conflag are going to belet elemental shaman's identity be the caster spec with strong 3 target cleave and weak 5+ aoe (balance's hurricane is good now, by the way)
>>585222849The porn guy isn't cat fishing you
>>585222854We can pre-install the main version of Forever right now and if you already have the beta installed it shares most that data.
>>585222854there is going to be a launch patch, who knows how big it will be
>>585222849ask the whitemane spammer, he's a nigger
>>585222939the porn guy is trying to get you to pay for his patronjust dont fall for either
>>585222919I don't know why they are so scared, the spell already has damage falloff built into it.
>>585223005vs Staff of Israel
>>585223005
>>585223041That's entirely different, that's transactional.Cat fishing is evil and playing with your feelings.
>>585221691<Remigration> is recruiting /vg/>PvP>horde>EST>20mjoin brothers. even if you're a casualhttps://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxfthreadposter, can i get an inclusion?
>>585223005this is a warrior nerfI wonder what they did for my shamans favorite staff
>>585223093gotta grind the new r14 each season instead of being able to skip everything till naxx/aq out of the gate
>>585222670it all comes down to the name. if it's a female character with some female or anime name, then it's some faggot 100% of the time. if the name is a joke or just random nickname, then it's fine
>>585222348Just put something like -50% damage against players on there. No need to ruin the class because of a minigame.
>>585223093>premierthat's the bad versioneither it's easier to get or you can't get the real rank 14s early to make sure you use pvp gear over bis raid gear.
>>585222939Catfish? I'm not trying to crack them or giving them gold just because they're a girl.
>>585223106>feelingslook at this fag
>random nobodies are getting nearly 100k views in a day for installing some addons and yapping about itis it your turn, 30-something 4chan boomer? is it time to finally start a youtube gaming channel?
>>585223005not pictured:>you now need 500 extra spell power to deal the same damage with chain lightning
>>585223169Sorry, aggrend shit himself in a rage over fighting a shaman in classic wow and since its the "hordes paladin" it will get further and further nerfs.
the texture downscaling they added to fix the low framerates is so poorly implemented sometimes it just flashes between normal res and low res while you stand there
>>585223214>Fag!>Proceeds to erp with another man
>>585223005we wanted to make getting a new weapon feel better as a spellcaster, so we doubled the spellpower on them and nerfed chain lightning by 76% to compensate
>>585223241I have a well paying job where I work from home.No way I'm giving that up to be a clown for zoomers growing up without a father.
>>585223005Very minor buff. Probably not even considerably better than say Illusionary Rod.
I'm fat, gay and retarded.
>>585223358its just porn dudeno one is falling in love lol
>>585223243there are going to be 1 handers with 500 spell power at level 60
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585223241I like being a nobody in game. If I wanted I could just post my wow character on my drawing socials and I'd get followers sending me free shit but I'd rather not especially when they can see me online and message me all the time. One already sent me an 5060ti recently.
>>585223542>RUNS FROM*fixed
>>585223569lmao gottemAlex is a dwarf and bald
>>585223241I have absolutely no drive to "create content", i'm much happier doing 9-5 I can forget the moment I check out.
>>585223484from MC of course, gotta keep it horizontal after all
>>585222246seeing the spam from EU was really eye opening
>>585223241>the instantaneous larp copes this post generatedkek
>>585223005this dropped for me off a wolf in duskwood many moons ago
>>585223458paladin bro...
so when do the classes allegedly come to their own? Even at 30 which took me like 3 weeks of playing it still felt like im in a straight jacket
>>585223798no it didntthats not how loot tables work
>>585223403>I have a well paying job where I work from home.>No way I'm giving that up to be a clown for zoomers growing up without a father.Why not do both?
>>58522383760. Any other answer is cope.
Forever has been a massive shitshow. I want Classic Fresh to rinse my mouth of the Forever taste.
shaman is a support class and contributes a lot of damage with windfury totem, so that's why elemental shaman does 40% less dps than enhancement shaman
>>585222067Fuck this shill.
>>585224148seethe
>>585224184i think this is literally the mindset they are going for with their "dps budget per class" core concept they seem to have
>>585223093>powercreep
this autist is goodhttps://youtu.be/D6fmLPEcC-s?si=FCADIJUfYtaWocF4
>>585223837They nerfed so many classes their key abilities, dumbing their rotations down.It unironically feels like Classic- at this point. No fun allowed.Imagine playing a mage who with some practice was able to pull the entirety of Maraudon only to be told you aren't allowed to AoE more than 4 mobs ever again.Imagine playing an Ele Shaman who with enough gear could blow someone up every three minutes only to get your key ability deleted and spell scaling nerfed into the ground.These devs have no clue what they're doing. Should've just stuck with TBC talents like Epoch to prevent them from fucking up the balance too much. TBC makes every meme spec viable yet isn't completely casualised like Wrath. One step forwards and two steps back. Mind you these are the devs who hyped up a Spaghetti Meatball as their "secret" new MC boss.
>>585224278we have got to buy this nigga some turtlenecks or something
>extra critical strike and hit chance is secretly crit and hit rating>10 hit rating = 1% hit rating>14 crit rating = 1% crit>items with extra chance can cleanly be any multiple of 0.1%>crit ratings can't be except for 0.5% multiples>there's one item that says it gives you 0.7% crit but it's actually fucking lying to you and instead gives 10 crit rating and that's ~0.714% crit
>>585224184you dont need to bring more then a single shaman now so theres no reason to nerf the fuck out of them as a "support" class, especially when they buffed the fuck out of ret paladin which was alliances support class.
>all the doomsissies are still gonna buy the sub and login on 4th
>>585223093you do realise its worse now because you can grind r14 from nothn in 5-6 resets and everyone is going to have one if they want it rightthe ranks now have honor ceilings so they dont keep approaching infinity the more people grinded in them
>>585224358you need 2, air and windfury stack
>>585224278Yeah you can tell he is a genuine chud by his looks.Tot some faker.
>>585224421>"need"
>>585224446yes you need 2 because hunter is the best dps by a mile
Honestly even with all the shaman doomposting I still think theyre better than paladins right now. Enhancement is about equal to ret, but resto is much better than holy. Holy is worst healer and prot pala is worst tank
>guild wants to go alliance>dwarf players don't want to play shaman>shaman players don't want to play dwarfI guess we'll be getting the classic alliance experience
>>585224265That image was used to make fun of the people calling out all the powercreep in Forever when lvl 60 gear was clearly nerfed.
>>585224446you dont understandthe game which they are designing for entirely new players (they have said this repeatedly over weeks in basically every interview, podcast and video) is going to be so hard that you can only clear content with the optimal raid layout
>>585224519yeah except this time the horde will have a fuckton of paladins which sucksthe faction class asymmetry was so kino
>>585224507but that's okay because i hate paladins
>>585224519that shirt doesnt workbam fucking sucksbam always suckedfuck bamthe only redeeming part is that he now looks exactly like his dad used to look
>>585224616bam was always cool
>>585224519Why don't shamans want to play as a dwarf?These is nothing more shamanistic than to get piss drunk and sleep in a forest with the elements.
dwarf shamans are kinobut not bronzebeard ones tho...
>>585224507>Enhancement is about equal to retYeah the 7th dps is totally next to the 15th.
>>585224616But anon, he's the king of rock and roll
>>585224313>SEEMS LIKE THEY REALLY DIMBED THE ROTATIONS DOWN>log on classic>press 2 on my keyboard 300 times in a row per encounterjust kill yourself atp ledditard
anyone name reserving Nick German or can i take it
RP servers have the highest amount of dwarves
>>585224729>doesnt even sound funny when spoken>will get forcibly changed + tip of a 3 day vacationgo ahead and take it
>>585224519I'm going dwarf shaman on pvp, I still need to pick a good name though.
>>585224681which one is whichforever ret is positively pumping
>>585224507actually...shaman is worst tank so they're balanced and even
they need to add wildhammer tatoos for dwarf shamansand more customization options in general
>>585224761>make dwarf on rp server>join a guild with Clan at the end of its nameyep, it's gaming time
>>585224821ret is 7th and enh is 15th
Do you know how badly they needed to fuck up for me to not play? Me a fucking fresh addict not playing a "classic +" server, but thats Blizzard for you. Yall enjoy your sharding, worse specs, spell scaling and fart gas in every zone. Im over here praying they wont force that sharding shit on the next classic fresh.
>>585224487why are you people so fucking stupid. Blizzard is CLEARLY balancing and releasing patches so why do you expect retarded outliers like 'weaving' survival hunter to remain the same? broken brains I swear to god
I am the female gnome priest
>>585224519yeah ngl, UD got a whole fucking expansion setting them up to have pallysDwarfs have fuck all for shaman. At least give dwarf shammy a warpaint/tattoo option so they can look like Wildhammer.I also feel like they need something else for ghostwolf - it's way too much of an iconic WC3 horde thing.
>>585224910see you on the 4th etc
>>585224910no one knows who you are or cares
Damn I'm really undecided between warrior and paladin. I played warrior in classic because it was the better tank, and it seems like it's the case again. I wanted to try something in paladin but it seems like it's gonna be a dogshit tank. I just can't escape warrior...
>>585224930i dont care what shitters do, we need 2 shamans because we go fast
>>585225032Paladin, they're Faggrend's favourite class so they're immune to the nerfbat.
Guys, will there be a class/race restrictions on launch day? I haven't pre ordered the game but I don't want to lose my Gnome/Priest combo....
>>585224952i probably died somehow
>>585224487hunter is extremely mid, probably top 7 dpscasters will be assraping every physical because of armor changes
>>585225032Bears probably going to be the best tank. It has the best threat gen which means people can pump harder and harder.
>>585225131other than the skelfs why would there be?
Tanks and healers are getting uppity with the dungeon XP changes, talking about reserving all the loot for themselves and only inviting classes that won't compete with them for gear. We DPS should boycott any and all tanks or healers from our groups
>>585225125Prot pally is really shit and needs substantial work in order for it to keep up with warriors in raids.
>>585225131You can hop in day 1 with a retail sub, you just wont get to reserve your name, and that maay mean you might not be able to join the faction you want on the PvP server if the population is skewed too much, but wont be a problem on PvE or RP servers.
>>585225131i doubt they lock anything that would be against the megaserver, locked could have just been for the beta
>>585225183>talking about reserving all the loot for themselves and only inviting classes that won't compete with them for gearWe already did this though.
>>585225032Paladin isn't bad, it's like druid we're missing ton of abilities and talents to really get things going.Meanwhile prot wowyers at 30 are a god tier fun allowed class with even more to come.
>>585225043nothing in wow is hard lilbro. Calling people shitters is funny
>>585225174I think they will be good, but threat is a non-issue. Salvation is not a blessing anymore so it's gonna be everywhere.
>>585225242>PvP server if the population is skewed too much, but wont be a problem on PvE or RP servers.Oh okay. I will play on PvE anyway.
>>585225272i didnt say it was hard, i said we go fast
even with spell tuning aside because it can be "fixed" later on, the design principles of flattening elemental shaman's vanilla kit to force all of its relative power into a megabuffed fire nova was fucking retarded to begin with
>>585225125paladin was nerfed 3 weeks in a row
>>585225270Paladin is gonna suck because the moment there is a tank swap you stop getting mana from being healed.
>>585224791>female dwarf shaman>Thunder Thighs
>>585225345PvE NA alli might get locked because of asmon
>>585225295threats a pretty big deal, plenty of classes have to stop dps since they will pull threat from the tank. tank having more threat means those dps kill the boss quicker since they don't have to stop.
>remove all the "Improved" buff talents>make every buff in the game raid wide>every raid is just 8 classes + 32 of the most meta highest DPS classHope you're ready for 32 hunters in Phase 1, 32 warlocks in Phase 2, 32 Mages in Phase 3, 32 Warriors in Phase 4It's Aggrend's vision
Are Classic uncs really allergic to having more than 2 buttons for their rotations
>>585225420It's not anyone else's fault that you're autisticAlso raids are not even 40m
>>58522542032 shadow priests in hardcore
>>585225416I guarantee you threat will be a non-issue.
>>585225420>remove all the "Improved" buff talents>shaman still has themthanks
this talent is really gay and i don't like it
>>585224519I played fem dorf shammy on the stress test and it was good. I'll probably go with some unisex name when the game goes live so I could swap easily.Playing fem dorf with post-nut clarity debuff up ain't it.
>>585221691you guys need to bite the bullet and roll feral so we can have aura
>>585225412EU here.
patch today or is that cope?
>>585225420Not everyone is a sweat and people will want class variety to better share the loot.And let's not forget the person playing the class is more important than the class in non-autistic guilds.
>>585225387>getting mana from being healedWrong expac. We're getting mana from blocking and the shield effect of SoF.If you want more mana switch to seal of wisdom, shrimple as.
>>585225412only pvp server has faction balance forced at character creation
>>585225552GEMMY GEM GEMTOOOOOOOOOOS
>>585225602Does paladin not have a mana from being healed passive?
Compare these talent trees to WoW Forever's slophttps://project-epoch.org/talents/?class=warriorHow are a bunch of slavs hosting a server from their garage better at designing a game than a multi-gazillion dollar company!
>>585225482>Also raids are not even 40mWrong
I still don't know what to main
>>585225686ok
>>585222067He's right
>>5852256861 single raid, the joke raid
>>58522568640mans are going to be LFR level of pug content
>>585225529Damn, you can swap gender in this version of WoW?
>>585225665In TBC yeah but not forever.
>>585224958If they didn't need some feel good disney cinematic, they could have had a "tragic" moment in the cinematic the hunter lost his bear, potentially to the paladin, and had him turn to the elements to survive after winding up in some distant land. Then for the throwback the Dwarf gets a spirit/ghost bear transform or something from his time bonded with his bear companion which somehow gets worked into some symbolism for player dwarves and their times in the mountains with the wild. I don't know, I'm not a scenario writer.
>>585225526Why?
>>585225775Yeah every town now has a barbershop which is completely free as well.
>>585225673>open link>revenge still has only a sub 50% chance to stuns instead dealing more damage>close linkPure garbage.You must be a pserver turdie if you think that is good.
>>585225346yes and you implied people who don't go fast are shitters. Troon
>>585225840yes, people who have a slower time than me are shitters
>>585225810Okay, maybe dwarf isn't too bad then
>>585225686only 1 boss raids will be 40 man
>>585225716boomchicken or feral for auras
>>585225420better than 32 warriors every phase
>>585225805Nah bro, fuck turning into animals - thats for knife ears and savages.Dwarf ghostwolf should just be called "ghost" & they turn into their fastest ancestor who runs barefoot.
this was a talent on wow original release 2004 holy kino blast
>>585225970Ghost Avatar, fund it.
>>585225756>>585225894>implying they wont rehash MC, BWL, AQ, Naxx raids to save money.Pretty sure they've even mentioned molten core when they joked about a new boss.
I reserved the name Sally WhitemaneI will be making her black skinnedAnd make her a Paladin bcs priest is fucking gayboy class lol
>>585225970this is actually a great idea. I was thinking a small bear but a dwarf ghost is better
>>585226041yeah we are getting them, as 20mans my guy
>>585226059I'd like ghost bear or ghost ram.
>>585226049Sally's a nigger...
I have never raided before. Is it fun or too much of a hassle?
>>585226049Nobody has reserved a name yet.
>>585226049I reserved the name Sally Whitemaneyou didnt because it isnt till the 27th
>>585226049salqueisha whitemang
>>585226115It's too much of a hassle. Raidings fun only if you do it with people you like, if you're doing it solely for the gear its like a job.
>>585226115its pointless is how i would describe it. You raid to be able to raid better till the end of Forevers lifecycle which at this point is gonna be 6 months
>>585226027we need this back
>>585226115depends. it can be fun for the social part or if you enjoy min-maxing/parsing. other than that it's a chore
>>585225941Why so many priest?
>>585226049
>>585226049>choccy skin white pubesHoly fucking sex im gonna leak pre everywhere im such a messy boy hooooooooooooooly fuck
>>585226179Is there anything else to do at endgame?
Random blizzard intern, I know you're here. Leak the info about the High Elf vs Amani patch that gives the alliance High Elves + Silvermoon and Horde Zul'Aman and Amani Trolls with a Ghost Lands battleground already.
>>585225760So, just like they always were?
>>585226041MC, BWL are in SoD as 20mans, were just gonna get that with tweaks
>>585226239best healer
>>585221691>OP warsgame isnt even out yet can we not be raging faggots
What do I do for 13 days?
>>585226275PvP.
is sally whitemane name even allowed? pretty sure blizzard prohibited lore character names and you couldn't name yourself arthas back in the day
>>585226115It's the worst part of WoW, WoW's endgame in general is miserable.Play it for the leveling, dungeons, run a couple BG's then quit. Raiding in Classic is just corraling 40 retards to do the 2 actual boss mechanics, followed by 2 hours of grown up manchild sycophants crying over loot
>>585225736I feel like 12.1 and 12.1.5 were not ready to be shipped, they didnt have enough time finish the raid and because of that story feels weird. Its not the writers but mandatory 8 weeks patch cadence.
>>585225526>free shadowburn>free +10% dmg for your hellfire aoeidk looks pretty good to me anon
>>58522630420mans will be hardest, like heroic levelmeanwhile 10mans will be normal and the few 40mans will be LFR, impossible to wipe if you get a full raid of lvl60s
>>585226239best healer, 1 in each group so you can holy nova while moving for speed
I'm going to play BalanceI'm going to not careI'm going to have fun
When are warlocks getting Harvest Life again?
>>585225125It's still fucking dogshit because they're caving to spergs like Esfand. Prot fucking BLOWS. Seal twisting SUCKS. Holy is fucking dogshit because they're catering to the Shockadin meme. They've literally memed this class up more
>>585226275endgame is not why you play classic wow and "the game doesn't start until you hit max", if you want to play for endgame go play retail
So DPS warrior rapes DPS paladin doesn't it?
>>585226420balance is looking pretty good im happy for you brother i can never get past the moonkin model
>>585226462Well honestly im just waiting for hardcore, i see levelling to 60 as the game. But that's still several months away
>>585226462i dont play retail, i play classic versions and the game starts in the 50's where you can farm prebis
Human priest or gnome priest?
>>585226420Be glad that ele took your spot as the meme spec no one will bring to raid besides as a joke.
>>585226562human priest abilities suck, gnome is amazing
I hate the idea of shifting power every 8 seconds for feral because some faggots want to pretend power shifting was ever fun and not a bullshit necessity, and demand tiger's fury back with blood talons as the capstone talent instead of berserk. t. spastic feral main
>>585226420Balance is good doe, at the very least you're wanted
>>585226527yes
>>585225807he doesn't want to cast shadowburn
>>585226641Both for disc and holy? I like gnomes, the only problem is black mageweave looks more sexo on humans
>>585226420balance is looking good mate. Looks sick in pvp too
Anyone hesitant to roll dwarf shaman since they'll likely add night elf shaman soon?
>>585226562human pve grome pvpnigth elf is amazing too
>>585226420everyone raid will run atleast one moonkin
>>585226741Fucking Night Elf Mages are more likely than shamans
did they fix melee weaving for hunters ?
>>585226741just let alliance skelfs be shamans like the horde gets..
>>585226741They could add skelf shamans for alliance if people bitch loud enough.
why do people play gnome?serious replies only
paladins in diablo look cooler than wow but why does the gameplay have to look so stupid?
>>585226806>>585226838>>585226842Every other race got a new class, night elf shaman and tauren paladin are coming
>>585226868eureka is great
>>585226868min max autistics going for their racials or pedophiles who want to play as the pink pigtail gnome
>>585226868female gnomes are very cute
>>585226705human cant use Divine grace on themselves and feedback is pretty useless, gnomes contingency works on themselves and have an AoE blind
why are the female troll attack animations like that
>Thanks for not sperging out over Mechagnome lore in front of my parents anon, I know that took restraint
>>585226835just play perfectly bro
>>585226968>feedback is pretty uselessHi Aggrend!
>>585226868cute + small hitbox so least likely to be targeted in pvp
>>585226741They'll soon add another "new" race which will have it.
>>585226868makes the horde mad to get killed by a gnome
>>585226527Warriors will rightly always be the best scaling dps even with rage normalization.All of their abilities key off of weapon damage and scale exceptionally well with crit.
>>585226868It's funny when you have small creatures with big weapons beating even bigger opponents. My main in wotlk was a death knight fem gnome
ogres have always been playable, in a manner of speaking
>>585226868Because I already have 5 humans and dwarves and night elves can't be warlocks or mages.Alternatively: a hideous bald midget demolishing some mudhutter in pvp amuses me.
>>585227126so does melee hunter and hunter will scale harder due to the 2 giga attack speed steroids they have
>>585227126warlock has infinitely better scaling and isnt fucked by armour debuff nerfsdestro warlock is #1 ST dps, #2 cleave dps and #1 aoe dps
>>585226917Every other race got new classes that somewhat make sense.Tauran paladin makes no fucking sense and never didNight Elf Shaman makes even less sense
>>585227126>ummm brownies rightfully were the best dps and scaled exponentiallywhat the fuck
>>585226239Naxx has a ton of aoe trash damage and priest's had the role of resto shamans in alliance. Prayer of healing is really powerful.
The 5 rage on warrior gnome is so useless bros...
>>585227126phy damage has been nerfed because of the changes to armor reduction talents, we aren't getting bosses down to 0 armor anymore. expect a lot more bosses like the ones in SoDs gnomergon.
>>585227353dont worry anon, you only need to autoattack without using any abilities for 20s to get 105 rage!
>>585226382Not a single anything blizz has done in the past 10 years was ready to be shipped at launch
I need tinker so bad it would be the kindest class
>>585227395But what do the extra 5 rage even matter? The only upside I could possibly see would be trying to get to 105 rage immediately for a boss pull so you can do a tiny bit faster to one attack. Wow!
>>585227502>can do a tiny bit faster to one attackI wrote like a retard but you get what I mean
>>585227502it does literally nothing for forever warriorsFor vanilla warrior with wbuffs it would be extremely good
>>585227173Just add ogres, but say the playable ogres are the "runts" of the clan that are allowed to do mercenary work, like the one the goblin in the barrens hires for protection, and the ogres keep the biggest and strongest warriors at their capital to defend it or for the most important ogre stuff. There, size explained away and it keeps ogre's being ogres with size classism.
>>585226984she'd look better with light black skin desu
>>585227429I really want tinker too but the way they explained it sounded very retail where you're piloting a mech as a tank and the mech has its own hp and when the mech dies you get launched out and have to get back inside or how it will have a support spec where crates fly around and people have to run around and pick them up.I should do shit as tinker as have a channeled heal gun like a tf medic or put down a dispenser thats aoe like a totem and my tank spec is me inside a goblin shredder.
>>585227502Stronger Executes.
>>585227429It already exists. It's called engineering.
execute is an evil ruse ability that tricks poor nooboid warriors into wasting all their rage for overkill damage instead of pooling it for the next pull
>>585227284I don't see how a night elf shaman doesn't make sense. It's certainly more believable the nature loving hippies would eventually commune with the elements. If anything it even makes more sense than Orc shamans given Orcs aren't even from this world while the Night Elves are. You're telling me some Orc managed to bullshit his way into a pact with the elements on Azeroth after the first and second wars and a Night Elf that communes with the natural world for the last several thousand years can't?
>>585226542>i play classic versions and the game starts in the 50's where you can farm precumSo you don't care about the journey, anon?
>>585226420>be me, balance druid>motw, thorns, moonkin aura, grp loves me>fun dps rotation>"hey bro, can you Innervate me ple-">no>Innervate myself and keep blastingand you get 0 loot competition, balance druids fucking won
Are warriors gonna be better for solo leveling? People are saying prot is really strong.
>>585225420>every raid is just 8 classes + 32 of the most meta highest DPS classExcept even with most every buff becoming raid wide people are still struggling to make room for the pure dps classes in raid comps, especially for 10-20 man. Forever just has a shitload of unique buffs and some even exclusive to specific specs. Bringing some dude who is gonna power up your entire raid will always be more worthwhile than a rogue
>>585227576Hi, Blizzard here. We loved your idea so much we decided to use it for World of Warcraft®: Forever, we slightly tweaked it of-course to make sure it would fit our vision.Introducing the new Tel'Dorei, a race of short elves capable of wielding the elements!
>>585227820the journey starts in the 50's idc about the tutorial, id buy a boost if i could
>>585227284Gnome priest makes absolutely zero sense. What do they worship, the machine god?
>>585227793In wow shamanism is literally the orcs pre blood of manaroth religion Night Elves already have priests of elune and druidism for all their religious and nature related needs - why the fuck would they start practicing shamanismGiving every race a bunch of classes that don't make sense is what leads to soulless retail slop where anyone can be anything because player agency is the only thing that matters.You will play a dwarf and you will enjoy it.
>>585227618Oh shit? The higher crit rate on humans is probably still better but that could be useful?
>>585227960Son of bitch
>>585227925warriors have plenty of sustain now yeahprot's good early and this thing will carry after 40
>>585227925>Are warriors gonna be better for solo leveling?You'll have to wait for the Necromancer class for that.
>>585228021You are arguing with a soulless homunculus anon. You're never gonna convert these people.
>>585227925Yes prot has already proven to be a great leveling spec. They gain rage whenever they dodge, parry, or block which gives them a benefit to fight multiple mobs at once. You can also pop this enchant on your weapon for sustain https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=1248760/enchant-weapon-recovery
>>585227960Wait, Steve, I thought we agreed it would be the Tel'Abim'Dorei. Where the fuck are we going to put all the banana assets we were working on?
>>585227925theres a whole vid of a guy complaining this is not classic because he never had to stop multi pulling on a prot warrior
Wash yer back.
>>585228092But that is fury though? He asked for prot
How are these for dwarf racialsStoneform - Chance to resist poison, disease, and bleed effects and a 1% bonus to physical damage resistance. Can be activated to provide immunity to poison, disease and bleed effects and a 10% damage resistance (not stacking with the passive) for 8 seconds.Dwarven Weapon Proficiency - +1% chance to crit with attacks and spells if you are equipping at least one mace, axe or gun (I think this should be used for all racial weapon proficiencies)Treasure Finding - Low chance to loot (level-appropriate) gems or rare metals, can be activated to see all nearby treasure chests on the minimapTunnel Fighter - +1% physical damage resistance and +1% (combat stat) when fighting indoors.
>>585227995THE LIGHTGnomes are literally refugees fleeing their failed machine city and for Gnomes/dwarfs/humans + tauren/orcs/trolls it makes a lot more sense them being able to dip into each others classes because of their close relationship.If anything night elves should get Paladins of Elune which change all the holy spell fx to moon glow.
>>585227284If night elves can get the powers of the light from the fucking MOON, then there's zero reason any other race can't get it from a lightbulb or the sun or the shine off your hairless ballsack.
>>585228223Not reading all that. There is nothing wrong with the current dwarf racials after the changes. +2% crit damage is one of the best passive dps racials in retail and it will be the same in Forever.
>>585223005This is why Jordan ist still the goat, nobody remembers a Staff of LeBron after all these years......
>>585228280They're a bunch of atheists and shaman makes more sense for nigh elves than paladin ever will.
dwarf racial that makes looting any humanoid have a chance to drop a random alcohol item so you can drink them as soon as you pick them up
>>585228293They're blessed by literal GOD, not some bitch ass elements. They can talk to the trees anyways.
Healer shortage or tank shortage, call it.
Being a Paladin is just a matter of willpower, by this logic all races should be able to be Warriors and Paladin
>>585228427and that same god is the exact thing the taurens get their priest/paladin powers from as well, just with a different name.
>>585228510healer
>retail idle animationsjooo hooo, ze launch ist near blizztruunsfix fix fix
>>585228524
>>585228510Healers shortage early because no one wants to level in healer spec or heal in dps spec and because of all the gear changes. Also this is classic so every brain damaged hybrid dps will refuse to offheal in 5 mans making dungeon during early levels even more miserable.
>>585226420>he wants to be oversized retarded chickenFag.
>>585227925All warrior specs will actually be great for levelling now.Arms still gives you mega sweeping strikes cleave, same as classicFury now gives you a shit ton of free hit so you can actually dual wield from level 20Prot now has crazy revenge damage and super cheap thunderclapsI'll probably go prot 10-30 then go Fury 30-36 just to fuck around and then go sweeping strikes once I get WW
Healer shortage everywhere at all times. Especially in groups comprised entirely of "hybrids".Tank shortage in dungeons while having zero spots for tanks in a single guild because it's not a role you can "just fill in".
wow forever would have been a good time to palette swap all of night elf priest's spell effects from yellow to silver to reflect their lore
>>585228510healer. I've already seen multiple groups in the group finder being 3dps with a tank and no healer.
>>585227995The Omnissiah knows all, comprehends all. It would make sense for Gnomes to revere him.>tfw you'll probably live to see people worshipping the Omnissiah IRL
>>585228510HealerYou can level as prot warrior/pala fairly easy and druid is literally the same tree.
>>585223241I prefer watching 3 hour videos on why Heart of the Swarm is in fact mid, the thing we've known since it released
>>585228510Probably healer. Always seemed to be the one people are more allergic to. You could always bully a feral druid or warrior to tank a dungeon since all people needed to do was attack the same target as them to not rip aggro off, and there's seldom a tank shortage at endgame when suddenly everyone allergic to tanking WC wants to be the raid's big dick main tank.
>>585228636
65 poops left
>>585228318>Not reading all that. There is nothing wrong with the current dwarf racials after the changes. +2% crit damage is one of the best passive dps racials in retail and it will be the same in Forever.Firstly, its worse than the human +crit chance.Secondly, this meta parser nigger shit is missing the forest for the trees. The primary purpose of racials is as flavor that helps you feel like whatever race you're playing as. Random generic combat bonuses are completely antithetical to that. There's nothing about getting getting extra damage on crits that makes anyone think, "oh yeah that's definitely a dwarf thing."
>>585228679I think I'll just stick with prot, maybe I can get into a guild and tank.
>>585228702>I Wasted My Youth Obsessing About Some Literal Who - Worth It?
>>585228796the polak has been at this for around 10 years, I don't think he's stopping any time soon
>>585228774That's 13 poops at most but more like 4-6
>>585228702hope you get paid for posting about this retard
>>585228510Healer because offspec healing will be hard. Old dungeons are one thing, but the new ones cannot be reliably healed without decent heal gear. They have aoe dmg like in retail everyhwere that will oom you quickly. If your dps is dogshit you just wipe. Dalaran escpecially, but it's already starting in HoT with those engineers spamming dynamite
>>585228767So as god intended then. I don't see the problem.
>>58522885964!
Where does one get a nelf hotwife?
>>585228685The nerf to penance damage already killed off like 90% of the healers you'd otherwise see while leveling.
>>585228878what are you smoking, the new dungeons in beta are easily healed without a single healing talent point
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>>585228937Have you tried the Goldshire Inn on the RP ruleset?
>>585228937in their stormwind ghetto
>>585228774I'm worried for you but also kinda jealous because I have constipation
>>585228931Whoa... that's a lot
>>585228937You meant to say hot wife right?
>>585226115if you like playing your class then yes it's fun
>>585221770@grok is this real?
>>585228937Ashenvalehttps://files.catbox.moe/tp3rml.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yw0t0z.png
>>585225526it looks funyou cunts are such faggy niggersgo find a wooden stump and beat it until there's nothing left, maybe you would find that "fun"
>>585225383what the hellBUFF PALADINS
>>585229064What's going on in there?
>>585229326Seggs
>>585228969ok god gamer
>>585229326Weddings and RP orgies
>>585229326rayp
>>585228767This shits just not true.>most of the dungeon gets skippedNo one ever did full dungeon clears. Everyone always did the quickest way to the bosses and then left.>Harder to form groups after the first runPeople who would do a dungeon would just sit there and grind it multiple times with the same group. Most people only ever did a dungeon once.>Dungeon leveling playstyle is discouragedYou're encouraged to go through multiple dungeons, not just sit and spam SM over and over to skip that level bracket.>Open world isn't very group-leveling friendly.Yes it is, you kill shit with ease and theres tons of new quests to do.>Group content specs healers / tanks have less purpose.Probably the stupidest thing. You didn't need to be in healer or tank spec before 40 but now tanks have all been buffed with Warrior and Feral tanks being easily their best leveling spec.Healers gear lets them actually deal damage now so they don't have to always play with someone else at a higher level and actually play the game.Also you "forgot" a pro, it means people can't bot nearly as easy or sell dungeon boosts.
>>585229403>Also you "forgot" a pro, it means people can't bot nearly as easy or sell dungeon boosts.this is already fixed in forever without the exp nerf
>>585229442>Healers gear lets them actually deal damage now so they don't have to always play with someone else at a higher level and actually play the game.Nobody is going to spend 90% of their time questing as fucking holy paladin, resto druid or resto shaman.
just checked the leveling guide routesthey only do the first 3 dungeons and then quest all the way to 60
>>585229442https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvuR-YAQS8
>>585229442Good luck trying to read quests and getting immersed with party.
>>585229550thats so much better than classic already. The team and i send our regards.
counterpoint: doing dungeons while leveling is fun
>>585228318only for very specific classes is slightly better, crit chance is superior in general
>>585229442SHUT UP! I was supposed to get to 60 by paying for mage AoE spam, it’s NOT FAIR!
>>585229713so fun to wait 2 hours to get a group and then pause the run for anotherun when someone leaves and have to wait for another member, or disband without finishing the dungeon and starting the whole shit againcould have just kept blasting and already be multiple levels higher
>>585229547Yeah, before they'd be forced to respec or they couldn't play the game outside of an instance which made people never want to be a healer. Now at least healers can actually deal damage when they quest so you're more incentivized to actually spec healer.
>>585229771Why pay for mage aoe spam when you can do it yourself?
>>585229713you just like being punished
>>585229550i was considering doing hall of thanes just for the wand, but really as a lock i dont care much, going enchanter anyway with my own wands for a while, dots will do the job
>>585229798Why isn't your dumb ass looking for a group as you continue questing, farming some extra gold, or doing profession related stuff.
>>585229843i'll probably do the BFD quest for the wand on priest, it lasts basically till 60 because its shadow damage
>>585229798>you should be optimizing everythingFaggots like you are the exact reason why mmos suck and we can't have nice things in general.
dungeon xp nerf was a mistake
>>585229908thats too many things for my huntard brain to do at once i will just sit in org and spam trade LF TANK HEALER GTG for 3 hours
>>585229994no youre just a doomposter its fine everythings fine
Why do people always push me to voice chat on discord for raids? I'm fine with listening but I don't wanna talk lol.
>>585229908if you arent at the dungeon entrance already you will be kicked
>>585230019Classic raids is just standing and hitting. In what fight are you expected to talk?
>>585227604based choco elf patrician
>>585230019you don't have to talk at all if you're not the main tank
anyone else going to poopsock a druid alt on 2nd account? giving your main account alts thorns+hots for questing while on /follow and tanking dungeons for gear quests and then can grab 2 gathering profs and fishing on 2nd screen
>>585230019Why do you play an mmo if you don't want to socialize?Afraid you will be called out on your thick accent/squeaky voice?
>>585230019Really? Seems to me people talk to much.>Leader yelling CLEAR COMMS every 5 seconds
>>585230079>>585230105I'm a holy priest. But people usually complain for some reason when I don't participate in voice discussion.
>>585230019I got gkicked for my cringe accent on voice chat...
>>585229798Every single dungeon I got into on beta took less than 5 minutes to form the entire group. How the fuck are you taking 2 hours??? You do realize we have a group finder now, right?
>>585230019i would kick you out of the guild the moment you said "c-c-can i not t-t-talk?". Stupid fucking cuckfrog
>>585230019they don't want to hear your life story, they want you to sit quietly in the channel and listen to the calls so they won't need to type that shit out in game
>>585226357She'll be Sally Blackmane, obviously
>>585230019normies
this is what they took from us
>>58523001995% you don't have to talk, just listen
>>585230185yeah sure autismo
>>585230135i was tempted to do a hunter and just put my main on follow till like 40
do you think forever will be fun?
>>585230291blizzard would never
>>585230335no
>>585230291see you in World of Warcraft: Eternal (Classic++)
>>585226868They're funny little guys
>>585230335yeah at 50+
>>585230137I don't want too close with random people I meet online.
what is our opinion of gay hunters exploiting terrain using the skelf racial?
Its huge
>>585230291Seasons would fuck up the aesthetic of every zone.
>>585230291reminds me of the skyrim dev jam where the skyrim developers were allowed to have fun for a weekend and make whatever they wanted without todd howard screaming at them. they made a ton of cool shit, one thing they made was dynamic seasons so snow would spread on the ground and trees would turn bare.
https://www.twitch.tv/barnyhttps://www.twitch.tv/barnyhttps://www.twitch.tv/barnyI can't wait for my queen to slay when the game officially launches :3
>>585230335No.We will optimize the fun out of it within the first week.
>>585230360I still want in 10 years one that stays at 60 and just keeps evolving the game starting with the First War.Make it very FOMO-pilled.Want Old Stormwind armor? Should have played in the first war.Want to be an Alteraci Human (Horde)? Should have played the 2 months they were available.Want to be a High Elf? Should have played before the scourging of Quel'thalas. Now you gotta wait for Blood Elves to pick a faction.
>>585230414based
>>585230457I'm sad Barny died, his Scarab Lord series was fun before he was replaced with this homunculus doppelganger.
>>585230457didnt he have some troon mental break down screaming about something recently?
>>585230137We can socialize in chat. I don't want neither speak with you in voice nor hear your shitty voice.
>>585230414I think skelves are still a shit race because everyone will be able to do this with goblin gliders.
The only people complaining about the dungeon XP nerf have to be mages. You can't convince me otherwise.
>>585226868once you go gnome, you find your new home
>>585230524I don't know about "recently" but he scrapped like 3 big videos that where all 90% complete because of having a troon breakdown.
The new lighting is gorgeous, a Nelf was standing in a dark corner and was only illuminated by its eerie, glowing eyes.Only problems I had with the stress test were the fucked up jittering shadows (many people seemed to get those?), and for some reason all of my emotes would automatically target nearby NPCs (they weren't selected, not even hovering my mouse over them). Like I'd type /wave, and it'd say "You wave at Auctioneer Gavlan.", when I don't have anything selected.Any ideas on the weird emote shit? I could only find one related result through Googling which was from retail in 2022 or something, no answers.
The only people who want to force you to be in vc are femoids
>>585230412Mmos are about making friends.Just do some dungeon runs with some guildies on discord to break the ice.
>>585230573It has to be mages and people who buy boosts for their alts.
>>585230573im a priest im complaining
>>585230534You can chain glider+skelf racial to get to even more fucked up spots.
WHEN THE FUCK CAN I MAKE MY GOBLIN WARLOCK GOD FUCKING DAMN IT YOU HAD ONE JOB BLIZZARD
>>585229970they're really too stupid to understand how retail became retail in the first place. I struggle to see how someone like that even enjoys classic in the first place (maybe they don't)
>>585230573Mages, retail players, shitty tanks, and healsluts that think they can't kill mobs normally.
>>585230573Tanks and healers hate it too.As a tank main I prefer running dungeons over boring open world questing.I do that when I level a dps.
>>585230573It's chinks and browns upset that they can't sell level boost anymore. ALL OF THEM. Whenever you see literally anyone complaining about it, it's some shitskin upset that their easy paycheck method is dead.
>>585230491looks pretty cringe to me
>>585230457The undead rogue to tranny pipeline is real.
Honestly, Shamans really don't have a class identity and all their spells are just tacked on
>>585230291>Area can only be accessed during a certain seasonKino
>>585230749You can solve the boost selling problem by not giving exp to anybody in party if the mobs are gray to at least one party member.
>>585226868I think I love the fem gnome voice more than anything else about them. I want to marry that voice.But I also love how gnomes are somewhat whimsical yet also manic, and their whole aesthetic (cogs, gears, and over the top machinery) is fun too.
>>585230824They had that, they reverted it
>>585230521He was already at the perfect level of femboy persona for his style back then too.
>>585230824Least obvious boost shill.
>>585230824thats already in the game right now
Shamans are fucked
>>585230894Still rolling shaman. Still gonna run up Alliance faggots and 1 tap them with a fat windfury proc.
>>585230763i think im going undead rogue.......
>>585230894Good.
>>585230137I don't like talking to people on the phone. But if you want to text me, it's fine..
>>585230573>>585230652Why would mages care? They aoe mobs at hyperspawns in the open world for much higher XP/h.
>>585230804Their class identity is Thor.
Nerf world mobs xp, we have quests if you want to xp. Only a speedrunner or bot would disagree.
>>585230524wait what are you referring about? did she had a crash out on stream or something?
>>585231085They easily aoe dungeons with no competition but it's mainly that they can sell aoe dungeon boosts.
Wow is a game of questing: you finish the dungeon quests and you gtfo. If you want to grind instances then go play retail
>>585231085>XP/hretard
>>585231204Wake up boomer, they killed mage boosting since TBC classic.
>>585231194>she
>>585230653>>585230726I'm a healslut and I'm okay with it. It's a small compromise to fix a massive issue plagging wow classic. And honestly I think it helps with enriching the questing experience, because the dungeon quests give massive amounts of XP now. So you're incentivized to explore the world and try different dungeons instead of spamming Scarlet Monastery for 16 levels in a row.
>>585230457>horde player>is a troonwhy is it so common nowadays
>>585231085They make gold selling dungeon runs after they rush to 60 aoe grinding. Which in turn is an RMT pipeline which is why people are saying chinks are pissy and false flagging en masse about it, because that's what they always do when they get called out. People buy gold, spend it on mage boosting, mages are then on the opposite side of the gold selling avenue, and the cycle persists.You have a few outliers like autists that just like hoarding gold, but it's a very clear chinese/rmt cycle at the end of the day.
>>585231351Because Asmon went Alliance.
Is this normal? Turtle world/dungeons/rares felt much more dangerous. I did rfk/sm:lib and "elites" there hit like normal mobs, its just feels boring and blizzard artificially forces you to wear a shield on top of that.
>>585231351asmon plays alliance so troons can't, asmon is like a tranny wow players jkr.
>>585231345>It's a small compromise to fix a massive issue plagging wow classic.its not, because they already fixed that issue, before the nerf to exp happened
>>585231351At least horde and alliance both can agree skelves are gank on sight and not to intervene or save them.
>>585231375>They make gold selling dungeon runs after they rush to 60 aoe grindingThis literally hasn't existed since 5 years ago they changed mob behavior in dungeons to become immune to slow/root, gain speed increases and start perma stunning if combat lasts more than 60 seconds.On top of that there is a 0 XP penalty if there is a large level disparity between party members (10+).
>>585231460It is. The issue isn't about mages. It's having your entire population cooped up inside their dungeon instances making the outside world a barren wasteland because questing isn't worth it
>>585231404>character with optimized / twinked gear and buffs fighting above its levelYeah that seems fairly normalLevel 1 twinks can solo Hogger (10 levels higher, elite group boss).
>>585231404Prot warrior is overtuned right now
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>>585230170>healersissy>starts trembling, shivering and shaking when engaged in a conversationthese pathetic socially rejected mutants are the ones spamming the forums with the most rancid dogshit you can imagine btw
>>585231582the only portion of the game where dungeon spamming was faster was SM cleaving, just nerf SM, dont punish the rest of the game
>>5852316281800 hp buffed is pretty low for a warrior at 30, his gear is shit
Shadow priests do mid damage, are only useful past level 40 and got most of their utility removed which leads me to believe the spec is no longer a true DPS spec and more of an off-spec for Healers that want to DPS without leveling a new alt
>>585231582None of these make sense because mega servers and sharding are doing more damage to that than dungeons do. Yet here seems to be no response on fixing that.
>>585231670turn AA back on, jagbro
>>585230170tell them to fuck off or find a new guild. i wouldn't tolerate that shit
>>585231404>troondle with lvl 20 cash shop mounts felt more dangerouscringe
>>585231772Priest will be a class that you should only play once you have legacy points. Unlocking shadowform at 35 instead of 40, and getting 5% health/mana regen after every kill, will make a world of difference in how shit that class will feel to level.
>>585231726One of the big reasons SM cleave groups where so popular is the lack of quests in the level 35-45 range, forcing players to grind.But OH GUESS WHAT? There juuuuuust so happens to be this cool new zone filled with quests called The Riverglades! Guess what level range it is? 35-45.
>>585231726The only reason people spammed that was because 32-40 was barren in terms of quests and if you have to grind mobs might as well do it with the boys.This was still slower than solo play btw.
>>585229843The staff and robe in HoT are fucking amazing for casters
>>585230458I wont though.
>>585230019HR roastiestell them to shut the fuck up
my plan is to farm ravager and scarlet set from levle 35-37, lvl 37 to 40 I will just spingrind mobs so I can afford mount, I am for sure the only Warrior ever to come upt with this plan.
>>585231867priest is the smoothest class to level in the whole game
So this whole "every zone is an instanced server" and layers aren't real thing is only for the beta, right? Because it sucks.
New updates to Dwarf Racials:>Stoneform: Gain an erection for 15 seconds and become immune to Poisons.>Gun Specialisation: 25% increased attack speed with Guns when in the Stormwind or Orgrimmar orphanage.>Find Treasure: Invade Gaza. 5 minute cooldown.
eye for an eye works on DoTs, can it break sheep?
>>585231857it is oni think my sharpness is just really high
>>585231978>shield>WAND>WAND>WAND>WAND>WAND>repeat for ~40 levelsIt's smooth but it's not exactly fun
>>585231895>>585231874yeah i always forget because in classic i just grinded my priest 1-60 wanded the whole way, took like 8days irl
>>585232040You need to be 18+ to post hre.
>>585232052
>>585231726SM was mainly farmed by warriors, shamans and paladins(lol) for the armory gear which lasted until early 50s.Other classes were just picked for the ride.
>>585232184>no counter>reddit image name, thumbnailI accept your concession
forever needs to survive for at least 2 years until riot mmo releases
>>585231772I like some of the modern takes on spriest, but I sure fail to see why I might want to play one over an affliction lock in forever. Especially since a warlock would let me jump between both affliction and demo. The Spriest and affliction dot+channel just seem to overlap a bit much to me.
>>585231895There were plenty of quests, fags just hide in instances instead of going to shimmering flats and STV
why do we not have separate bars for stances/stealth
I need a healer friend, who is jobless, who will play with me
>>585232287good luck with both of those things lmao
>>585232256>shield>holy fire (before shadowform)>mind blast>sw:pain>mind flay couple of times>wand once or twice if needed>loot and run to next mob with full mana again
>>585231776>mega servers are doing more damage to that than dungeons doYou've never experienced your server faction parity become extremely unbalanced and it's playerbase dying out to unplayable numbers. Segregating players into different servers is dumb and never works out. Hyperinvesting in your character only for the server to die because of variables out of your control feels like ASS. I don't want to coinflip which server will stay up after more than a year, which is a common reason in the EU. I want the peace of mind of knowing everyone is sharing one big server so I won't have to pay for a character transfer later down the line and leave everything behind.
>>585225686yeah I think I'm gonna wait until spring
>>585231345>massive issueboosting? why not limit exp when someone is over certain level? I'm just mad that because 1 out 1000 people is boosting their character everyone that enjoys doing dungeons more than once is getting fucked
>>585232287>he is waiting for new world v2After the fighting game flop you should learn they are a one trick pony.
>>585230335Itllve fun for about a month probably
>>585232305>shimmering flatsI swear I remember finishing all of this piece of shit area and did not even get a level in quest XP
>>585232424>I cant do what I enjoy doing UNLESS its also the very best and most efficient thing to do in an activity I do for FUN
>>585232371>all of those abilities do less damage than wanding nowLol nah man you're just gonna be wanding
>>585232432maybe they ll pull another arcane season 1 out of their ass you never know
Will there be a different download for release version or do they patch up beta? Do I delete beta now because I will have to download separate version? Yes I am new
>>585232339faction and server?
>>585232527You can pre install right now. If you still have the beta it shares data so the download doesn't take that long.
>>585232537Alliance NA pve
>>585232527Yes, you can safely uninstall both the beta and the stress test, the release version will be it's own seperate download.
>>585232527stress test client was the launch client, hopefully you downloaded that shit
>>585232615Olympus bros
There's still a podcast and patch today?
>>585232605>>585232628>>585232636I don't have stress test installed...
>>585227057>least likely to be targeted in pvpAs a Horde player I can absolutely assure you it's the opposite. Dwarves are the only bunch that aren't KOS.
>>585231345>massive issueWhat massive issue? If you have a high level player in your party you get no experience, so boosting is already dead. If your issue is just "people are playing in a way i don't like" then you're just a stupid tranny.
>>585232653Not likely to be a patch, only 30 hours until they shut servers down.
>>585232305Maybe for horde, even then the levelling guides recommend you to grind half the time in that level range.
>>585232636downloaded, made character with my planned release name, set up my addons and macros, feelsbigbrain
Oh nvm I see it, thanks.
>>585231351>asmon plays alliance>every tranny loving faggot goes hordeIt's that simple. Really he did us all a favor. If you see a horde sky elf you're almost guaranteed that it's a tranny.
>>585232808>the levelling guidesthere is your problem.never needed to grind any dungeons on my multiple level 60s. doesnt matter if horde or alliance.
>>585231345All they had to do was keep the 0 group exp when someone is over leveled.
LMAO , Olympussies are gonna roll on PvE Ruleset , all bark no bite
You guys will play how the developers want you to, stop complaining.
>>585232371Wait, what even is the Shadow Priest rotation with shadow form in forever? It specifies it can't use healing spells, but doesn't that imply holy fire is relevant, or have the devs made mentioned anything about that? I've only really been paying attention to forever stuff pretty recently.
>>585232853I wasn't talking about dungeon grinding.
>>585232849>If you see a horde sky elf you're almost guaranteed that it's a traaccording to the classic census website, it's the second most popular horde race after undead
>>585232754sure when its 1v1 but in a group battle its natural to target the largest target
>>585232896the other night asmongold sounded genuinely scared of pvp
>>585229716+2% crit damage only becomes better than +2% chance to hit at 51% crit chance. Which is insane.
>>585232921holy fire is never relevant after the nerf in forever, once you get shadow form it gets complicated because you can pull 3 mobs burst 1 and get DP to spread to 2 others and you have 0 mana issues now
>>585228318Are you retarded?
>>585232896On one hand you could argue this is the streamer having enough self awareness to not fuck the pvp server, but in reality he probably know he'd be hunted down relentlessly and not be given any chance to play the game.
>>585232921you get 30% increased shadow dmg so holy fire doesnt really keep up
>Fem nelf >Can't think of any good name>male >100+ ideas Give me some noncringe ideas.
>>585233001*chance to crit
>>585233001True, however if you have more critical damage you don't need as much
I couldnt give a single shit about Asmongoyim but how fucking hilarious is it that he opted to roll PvE? How much of a defeated cuck do you have to be to roll PvE. "We're gonna monopolise the server, were gonna destroy everyone" NIGGA WHO THE FUCK CARES YOURE ON PVE. How do you goobers follow that loser LMAO
>>585232382Worked in vanilla.
>>585232508cool green text but I'm going to do them anyway, it's just that it'd feel better with more xpyou enjoy questing, right? I hope you do all grey quests from every area before reaching lvl 60 to prove how much you like them
>>585233081Chuckia Sneedwind
Holy or Disc priest? (For raids and dungeons)
>>585230573I don't play a mage, I generally play a tank. I hate the dungeon xp nerf. I used to run dungeons 1-3 times each while I was at the location.>good xp>fast to throw together a group>gives me a couple strong items to make leveling easierNow that the xp on subsequent runs is worthless, I'll only bother with them if there's a quest reward I absolutely want. It makes no sense to run it for items or xp after the first clear. I'm better off just leveling faster because the items will get replaced quickly. When I do run it as well, I am going to be extremely selective in who I invite. If you're a class that will roll on my items, you're not coming to the run.
>>585233173either but its disc for me
>>585233103it's pretty based actually, that's possibly minus 50k players from alliance pvphorde character creation about to be THROTTLED for the whole of the first month lmao, imagine the seething
>>585233173Who cares, just swap spec
There's lots of gear for crit, not nearly as much for hasteCrit only benefits you when you crit, haste benefits you 100% of the timeSeems like Skelf is the superior option for dps
>>585233173You will have to go holy if you are healing, they are making disc a DPS spec
>>585233103>I couldnt give a single shit>butThese people seem to be deep in your mind, anon. Just let go.
https://files.catbox.moe/dqebwb.mp3
>>585233027>>585233064ah, dang, was wondering if there might have been something nifty going on there but yeah, I see holy fire has a rather long cast time and that damage isn't keeping up with higher ranks of mind flay.
>>585233206Holy blogpost batman
>>585229243Lets see her feet game
>>585233103hes rolling on both pve and pvp but his main character is pve so he can do the raids for stream without getting griefed at them
>>585233173I'm leaning Disc personally because I like the idea of damage mitigation more than healing. Shielding people in games is fun.If I end up despising the shields gameplay or suck at it (maybe it's harder to track versus just seeing someone's health percentage), Holy seems more than fine too.and it's still not a DPS spec, don't listen to that other guy.
>>585221691Holy Halloweeno KINO
>>585233103Hew knows the moment most players hit 60 there is NOTHING he will be able to do in the open world with his lemming army without getting raped by a Horde raid. Had to run off to pve so he can farm his content without getting dunked on.
>>585233326>Holy blogpost batmant. Rogue or Hunter that's sitting in dungeon queue for 60 minutes
>>585232942what then? randomly killing mobs in the open world? who does that? there are plenty of quests.
How are these equal at all?A High Order Mage has essentially a permanent 100% manaregen increase in the open world or a powerful burst of manaregen with 25% uptime in dungeon/raids.Meanwhile Windshaper get a 10% movement increase (only 2% after minor speed on boots)?
>>585233103Asmongold is a pussy and a cuck , every time he dies in world of warcraft you can see that he is visibly shaking and insecure about it LMAO.i have never seen such a person with so much insecurity
is this worth to check out if never played WoW before? I am class 1991 btw
>>585233443They had to nerf horde racials for anybody to play alliance.
>>585233443>cast 0.5 secWait, the Skelf movement speed racial has a fucking cast time? 10% movement speed for 30 seconds, with a CAST TIME? Why would you even botherEspecially if you end up giving all of your alts +8% speed on boots.
>>585233103>I couldnt give a singlethen how do you know what he's doing? I don't know what he's doing because I actually don't give a shit. Retard
>>585233081belladona bichtits
>>585225403That's actually genius. I would take it if I could, but I already have one I'm set on. I don't think anyone would reserve it..
>>585233537Alliance skelves are already nerfed since they can't be shammies
>>585233561They graciously let you cast it while moving after "buffing" it.
>>585233316they gutted all the base damage on holy damage spells but shadow ones barely got touched, all the beta i just did mindblast+pain>wand repeat, was always full hp and mana, add in flay once you get it before wand finishing, wand probably gets replaced completely once we get SW:death, spirit tap should keep you full mana with how little everything costs in shadowform
>>585233519yes join fun havers and have fun :)>>585231670
>>585233081https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Night_elf_characters?pagefrom=Relaeron#mw-pagesI went through all of these to figure out mine
>>585233443this stacks with +minor move speed enchant, that one probably will too
>>585233519it totally is. go horde, too
Any friendless anon got a code left? Kinda want to give it a try before I commit to throwing money at blizz again
>>585233219My main gripe with Disc priest is how you're incentivized to cast Smite and Holy Fire but the spells take so long to hard cast. The spec isn't a Power word shield spamfest anymore right? The most popular Disc talents completely ignore the spell. Power word shield was my main issue with the class because of how it interacts with other players's pw shields in raid content. I honestly have no clue how Disc is supposed to be played after the update.>>585233375Apparently Power word shield is pretty ass, even with maxed out talents. People don't even put points in shield boosting stats.
>>585233626Alright that's not as bad then, still seems like a pain in the ass ability I'd rather not bother with (but would still begrudgingly feel compelled to use on cooldown)
>>585233728thats a dps spec, not the healer spec, the shield talents are very good, even the holy build takes them what
>blackout talent makes any shadow priest shadow spell have a 10% chance to critIsn't that a bit absurdly fun
>>585233728>Apparently Power word shield is pretty ass, even with maxed out talents. People don't even put points in shield boosting stats.Damn, really? That blowsMaybe I'll just go Holy then, PW:S was the whole reason to go Disc for me. I remember Disc Priest in Cata being fun because of the heavy focus on shields, they gave you movement speed boosts and stuff too.If I'm just healing then it sounds like Holy would be doing that better.
>>585233714PM8J-SRK6-MBNVX-T?FF-MGSX95RC-HCNN-XKM8T-8R?F-L564BKWH-FJQ3-D8KGT-K?T3-VBK6Switch ? with Q
>>585233849me when I can't read
>>585233714no
>>585233883Thanks anon!Claimed the second one
>>585233892Hey buddy if you want to retard post the forums are still there
>>585233883Thanks, friend.
I still have all 3 codes but im waiting to see if my friend wants one first
>>585233839Not really, according to mana per healing values and healing efficiency it's actually more worth it to cast Renew than Shield. Bliz is keeping the shields slightly sub-optimal on purpose because they don't want another wotlk disc priest situation all over again.
>>585233585Sorry, i've already reserved the name you had in mind sweety :^)
>>585233883Thanks pal
>>585233882hes chatting shit, he just grabbed the dps spec from the forever site, disc is still rocking all the shield talents, divine aegis is still great, its not as good as cata, even holy is half the shield talents, all but aegis if they still drop pom for penance
>>585234056Nta but as someone leveling shadow but forced to heal in the beta, I saved my tank so many goddamn times with that shield
>download launcher exe>throw it in virustotal for the lulz>one of the vendors flags it as malicious>because it connects to some random content delivery network heavily associated with malware>this right on the heel of some certificate authority majorly fucking up and a massive php vulnerability being disclosed yesterdayI dunno bros............
>>585233883you guys never fail to impress me sometimes. were you a redditor you would've lectured and reported him somehow
>>585233893thank you BASED anon!
warlock or balance druid ?
now that i've discovered my toaster navi can only play forlo through geforcenow, i'm going to become an unhinged retail- hater and troll the thread. please understand
>>585234056you could troll better if you posted the disc buff cuck spec
>>585233656How the hell does that get a pass after they gutted the horde racials so much.
>>585234149>>>because it connects to some random content delivery network heavily associated with malwareSo... It connects to Blizzard? Well no shit!
>>585234136Because it's inefficient by nature. It's supposed to be an "oh fuck" emergency button meant to stabilize someone to quickly spot heal them up, not a bread and butter filler spell to blanket the entire group with. So you pay lots of mana for less healing that you'd get if the spell was Greater Heal, but it's instant cast.
>>585234056>muh hps and mana efficiencyYou are assuming every single heal never over heals and that you never need that little bit of extra hp buffer before a heal lands
>>585234129Oh, right, sometimes I forget I shouldn't just blindly trust random posters. Sounds good thenI'll keep following my gut and keep leaning towards disc
>>585233656Fun fact: it doesn't stack. They remembered to fix the NE racial with stacking but not the Skelf one.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/the-current-state-of-protection-paladins-in-wow-forever-383487Point and laugh at the sissies in pinky realizing they aren't real tanks hahah
>>585234303bro really said greater heal, you never played classic lmao
>>585234367>open link>black paladin>close link
>>585230573WE LOVE trying to skip every single trash pack with 80% failure rate which will become the norm if you get no exp. I'll never understand the willingness to make the game worse for everyone because small percent of player base are niggers.
>>585221691is this ok? im going to extended flame shock because im lazy
Ah... yep, this is what it's all about.
>>585234298probably because 70% of the player base was playing horde for the better racials
>controller support updated for foreverWhen are they putting this shit on Xbox so I can mindlessly farm and gather on the couch instead of being hunched over my keyboard?
>>585225125>>585226446Aggrend literally only cares about paladin DPS.He hates Prot and ret.
>>585234537Really hope camping wont be a thing for min maxing at max level.
>>585234498The lightning shield is pointless unless I missed them making melee have a chacnce to proc it on the enemy
>>585234498ok for what? pve? pvp? leveling?
>>585234310NTA but if I'm playing disc and there are more discs in a raid group, how do their pws interact which each other? Is it true that you only bring 1 disc to raids?
>>585233883Wait what do these do?I don't have beta access after claiming.
>>585234550WoW has felt like it's half a year away from a console port for like 5 years now I thinkBut you can use a HDMI cable and play on your couch already, anon, no need for an Xbox
>>585234580It gives level 1 buffs, so it'll only be relevant if you don't have the class in your group/raid.
I don't even know for sure what to play...Was thinking hunter but I'm afraid everybody is going to be playing hunter (like warrior in classic)Was thinking warrior but I don't want to be forced to tank everything while leveling (which I know I will be) and also everybody and their mothers will be playing warrior AGAIN.Lastly was between rogue and warlock but rogue seems a little unpolished and warlock is a standing still machine.Any opinions wowchads?
>>585234547>be r1 best pvper streamer >horde rules, we love horde, always horde, for the horde >horde .3 dps below an alliance racial on launch>so we're all organically playing alliance now and here's 10 reasons why that don't mention racialsi'm noticing..
>>585234629It's not beta access it's a free week at launch.
>>585234629They're useless until release and completely useless if you already have a sub lol. They give 1 week free launch playtime which does not add time to your active sub
>>585234612pve
>>585234624only 1 guy gets to shield a target at a time due to weakened soul, you're pefectly fine healing and applying aegis/penance etc and using PI
>>585234629>he redeemedOh no.. Anon..The thread schizo has been spamming illegal codes for weeks. It's just a 7 day subscription code for when Forever launches, but they're all illegitimately obtained in these threads. It's fucking over bro
>>585234629Its a free week of game time at release
>>585234629They give you access to forever without needing a wow subscription the first week it launches.
>>585234440They are zesty buck broken bucks.
>>585234689I would, but the desk and pc is in a separate room and if I moved it to the living room it would be too much clutter in a small area.
>>585234737Use this.
>>585234795It's true my Battle.net account just got positive HIV result
>>585221691>Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.Source?
Give me your Forever websites. Here's what I use.WoWHead (obviously)talentsforever.comforeverchanges.promythicsim.com (for dps rankings)wowforeversim.com/ (for gear optimization)
>>585234624You can't stack discs because of weakened soul and even if you apply another one it would overwrite or not apply depending on who got more healing power.
>>585234907I made it up
>>585234907>the defining feature of classic+>"SOURCE???"
>>585234781>>585234964>you're pefectly fine healing and applying aegis/penance etc and using PISo now I dumped all my talent points on pws but I can't even press the button because someone else did first?
>>585234970Just like Blizzard did too, its okay though, we all know Forever will go into maintenance mode well before the necessity for a level cap increase.
>>585234882noted. ty anon
>>585234718>hunterExtremely overrepresented, like you said everyone is playing Hunter because they're just that good.>rogueThe new "huntard" of WoW, in that it has an irredeemably bad reputation. Massively overrepresented due to the "Rogues are the best DPS!!" announcement and people wanting to be cool gankers, and you will never get into groups because in addition to that stuff you also offer zero utility (by design).>warriorAll the perks and flaws of Classic Warrior, like you say>WarlockEvery group will want a Warlock, but whether or not you'll actually enjoy it is up to you.
>>585231772>As Shadow, Priests can harness the power of darkness to deal powerful damage-over-time (DoT) but lack the full utility in that role that could be found on a class such as the Warlock.Blizzard made it clear that the spec's role is "you should just be playing warlock"
>>585234718Demo lock is looking pretty fun as a caster to me. That new searing pain talent elevating pets really sells it in a way that's not just adding in felguard or making all your skills demons that dissipate after a few seconds.
>>585234882I'm so sad maelstorm weapon doesn't include chain lightning
>>585234959i get all my information from /wowfg/ and a complex system of heuristics.
>>585235050>Every group will want a Warlock, but whether or not you'll actually enjoy it is up to you.Not really. Every group will be 3 DPS monkeys looking for a tank and healer
>>585235142or healing wave. the talent seriously sucks and would only be worth picking if it cost 1 point instead of 5.
what does it mean when guildies call me an egg
>>585234959Why do you need guides for a toddlerized version of an already easy game?
>>585234882Damn, do people think maelstrom is gonna be falling short? I wouldn't be surprised given enh isn't running DW to keep it flowing, but that's a shame if so.
>>585234492It's just low functioning brown people autism, pretty much every native english speaking community has had so much indian admixture now (fecalization) to become low functioning subhumans.You'll see the script flip once the game releases and, as per usual, white fascist aryan men where right about blizzard's fecalized changes being, well, shit.In 1 week you'll have the entire thread complaining that "Questing sucks everyone is stealing my taaags :(((".In 2 months you'll have people crying "nobody is running dungeons :(((".
>>585233443They're equal because you get to be shaman, that's why
>>585235142It's a really stupid change. I'm not sure what developer decided it was fun that chain lightning gets a cooldown of 6 seconds and is just never used by enhancement shaman>>585235207You're getting groomed
>>585235207get something new to post
>>585234860Either buy a Gabecube (if they're ever in stock), use a laptop, or get a really, really long cable
>>585235207It means you're a testicle.
>>585230298NTA, and this was on turtle wow but I've seen something similar happen>#2 guild on ambershire named Cursed>they have the #1 priest heal on the server>the kind of guy who only sleeps 2-3h at a time and makes his rl money selling chink counterfeits on second-hand website >horrible at english, thickest french accent (from belgium)>makes the whole raid cringe internally >ends up getting gkicked right before P2/lair>be me listening to officers and guildies talk about it the following days>consensus is they didn't have a real reason to gkick the best priest on the server beside him being cringe and bringing the mood down >GM said something like "i dont know what happened but yeah" Pettiness and bullying is human but I think classic has a bunch of dad gamers who are really normalfags in disguise.
>>585234998yes
>>585235050hunter is easy, good for leveling quickly, and ideal for skinning/leatherworking first character rush to a few talent points. they'll be middle of the pack population by endgame, i don't think they're that popular.
>>585235237I think it could be good since you stack int anyway but ehhhhh
The ping system seems cool, I hadn't seen anyone ever mention it and stumbled on it when sorting out my settings in the stress test.I've got it bound to shift-middle mouse. I can just press that and ping an area, essentially telling everyone in the group "look over here you idiots". seems incredibly handy!
>>585235050I'll probably roll warlock, that's what I was leaning to the most anyway.Perhaps even a priest, I wouldn't mind healing a bit while leveling and since I'll be playing some PvP priests are strong af. Also boat/chimney MC.
>>585234998Offspec Holy in raids, coordinate with the other disc priest, or just suck it up, it won't matter
>>585227429>the kindest class
>>585235237You don't even need sims to understand that this version of maelstrom sucks cock. It's not worth the massive 5 point investment to rarely fire off an instant bolt with barely any spellpower.
I like how you guys are making all these plans like giddy children when 90% will be done with the game by Christmas.
from the priest cord pins
>>585234718I think hunter is fun but I'm gonna level as survi
PATCH*inhales copium*TODAY FOR SURERACIALS WILL BE TUNEDELE SHAM WILL BE SAVEDtrust
>>585235290>>585235438How fun is resto shaman in raid and dungeon content?
>>585228636This is fucking retardedPeople will play for maximum efficiency then have all these complaints about the game and believe that if these are fixed they will enjoy themselves. You will not enjoy yourself if you're entire mentality for the game is to get the max amount of power in the most efficient way possible instead of actually completing enjoyable contentImagine hitting 60 a week earlier but having 0 attachment to the world or your character because you read 0 quest text, completed 0 dungeons, and did 0 fun memorable shit.
>>585235509>people play single player game for a month then stop>...>people play multiplayer game for a month then stop>WTF WHY AREN'T YOU DEDICATING THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO THIS GAME????
>>585235562>tourists are hung up on racials>wait till they actually start balancing specsyou trannies are gonna rope when the real balancing starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrNLOcOX4wYThe only reason to play Holy Priest is this sound.
>>585234718druid, you've got like 4 specs to choose that all work
>>585235586You will press riptide on CD and chain heal the other times.
>>585235537Holy is the only fun priest spec. Always has been.
>>585235589So you admit that youre a tourist simply shitting up wow and youll be gone once the fomo runs out, thats what id expect of 95% of the posters here.
>>585235586I like the effect of chain heal so it's the most fun healer for me
>>585235562the best thing blizzard can do for the game is to not release patch notes either today or any day up til launch, to starve content pigs of optimal play guides and to create an environment where people make discoveries organically as they play. even better they should never release patch notes ever again
>>585234718>forced to tankYou mean you don't want instant group privileges every single time you want to run a dungeon?Playing a warrior on the beta I made my own group every time I wanted to run a dungeon - filled it in 5 minutes and never had a single bad run.
>>585235628I do not like the draenie tails because they have a habit of going places they shouldn't
>>585235738>the best thing blizzard can do for the game is to not release patch notes either today or any day up til launchi wouldn't even bother releasing them at launch, like why do people playing the release version need to know what was changed from beta?
>>585235738Legit - was looking at classic wow history today and when blizzard released the hunter quest epic bow they didn't even put it in the patch notesShit like this is a great way to recapture that classic feel and make the game actually feel like an rpg again.
>>585235537it’s so sad seeing people ai generate wojaks. half the fucking appeal is making some shitty mspaint edit
What are the chances they give holy paladin more than 20 useful talent points for healing upon release?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4FOcLwO0EEit's out, /ourguy/ have spoken
>>585235738>the best thing blizzard can do for the game is to not release patch notes either today or any day up til launchIunno, I think a patch note would boost morale for specific specs like ele shaman. People will want to go into launch day not thinking the spec they want to play is shit.
>>585235879I will never understand the WoW retail mindset of wanting everything announced or data mined so there are no surprises in the game.
Now that its confirmed you actually trannies are just fomo nostalgia chasing for the next couple weeks. I’d like to personally thank you cattle for all your money that will go back into retail when this current iteration of classic gets put on maintenance mode!
>>585235716ive never liked holy, always played disc but im a pvpfag
>>585235901B- but Alex said it's Classic-...
>>585235901buy an ad bro
>>585235764You dont like a bit of prostate stimulation?
>>585235897If we go by SoD then Holy Paladin won't be good until the last half of the game and it will never be fun for more than a week before they nerf it.
>>585236000With the size of that tail its more like a fucking tonsil exam.
>>585235738bad idea, they would get flamed to fuck, people need to know to make plans on faction/races/classes with friends
>>585235901>mazed+ player thinks it's gonna be greatnot a good look
>>585235939i disagree, it would only create a new fotm. people should know this game by now and know that on a not even very long timeline ele is definitely not going to be what ele is now. >>585236076you don't need to invent an complex scenario where you have friends in order to justify your childlike desire for the most easy and broken experience possible in the game.
>>585236157my entire guild swapped sides to alliance because of the last set of racial changes, its very important
>>585235957It's not even strictly a retail problem. It's a problem for any game that has a release cycles, and it fucking sucks. Same deal with being ultra obsessed with efficiency to the point people start attacking others if they perceive them playing wrong. Something about modern gaming is just inherently fucky.
>>585236201lol that’s so fucking sad dude
>>585235503Be my gf
>>585233728>DisciplineDiscipline is bricked. It is a total meme build. It's exactly for meme garbage like your smite spec shit.This is how anyone who isn't memeing is going to go into Discipline.
>>585235901isnt that the dude that had the GM kill the boss for him to not lose his keys
>>58523590112 minutes of "what if's" and "imagine that", channel blocked
>>585236221Im foaming at the mouth for Dec 4th when the raids open up and you faggots start getting denied from groups. The kvetching and dropping of the game when you realize it isnt your perfect little fantasy will sustain my soul.
>>585236252gotta go fast bro, its just our way of life
>>585235738based
>>585235901>even the giga rats are leaving the maze and are excited for foreveryea this is gonna be big
How were the lines?
>>585236295It happened in his group, but it was for a female player in that group
>>585236363>implying I’m gonna be 60 in a month
>people willingly pick healerswhy do you people like watching others play the game?
>>585236424literally just walked up to garrick and got it, one guy ran up a second later.
>>585236408And the rats will demand that same changes that made them hate retail into Forever and will defend boosts and tokens.
>>585236424No wonder that cuck faction lost every BG in 2019 classic.
>>585236506good thing /ourguy/ aggrend is in charge then
>>585236363But I'm joining a /vg/ guild, I will absolutely be invited to groups because everyone else will be really shit.
>Can cheese healing meters and get mana back for itUndead priests are OP
>>585236474Someone's got to do it
>>585236363 Cool story bro, not sure what you meant by misspelling fletching like that though.
>>585236284>threat reductionWhy?
>>585236461LMAO your types are gonna be the loudest, when you get left behind on the gear tredmill and start bitching and crying about ilvl! Dont worry, you can watch the pros do the raid instead.
>>585236474Why bully healers? (You) need them more than they need (You)
>>585236221Part of it is streamer/content culture imo - nearly every interesting part of a game is publicised instantly. Even things that aren't that interesting might be made to seen extreme just so some content farming prick can get views so he doesn't have to get a job.Dungeon XP change is a good example. 20 years ago people would just roll with it, maybe give some feedback.These days you can find 1,000 click bait videos on the topic making it seem like it will make the whole game dead on arrival and we have 100s of forum posts on the topic.
>>585236424
>>585236542That icon looks jank.
>>585236474I always treat my healing friends really well.
>>585236590So you can heal as much as you need to without pulling aggro.
>>585236424No lines.Instanced zones aka shards and hyper respawns.Caves were especially dangerous.
>>585235738The best thing blizzard could do was not doing beta at all.
>>585236603schizo ESL exclamation point
did you get your time off work approved
>>585236727I work outta da home
>>585236669If the guy is taking too much damage where he cant hold aggro from you just healing him then that talent is the last of your problems.
>>585236727I got fired.
>>585236669holy nova for going fast does no threat, binding heal does no threat and is the identical to flash
>>585236727I make my money with drawing
>>585236727Yes, my mommy said I dont have to throw the thrash out for the entire of November and she'll be bringing tendies twice a day
Why are shadow priests complaining? They now do more dps and have baseline devouring plague
>>585236284>taking literally everything BUT pushback protectionThis thread is filled with mouthbreathers.
The dungeon changes will forever be a contention point because 3rd worlders who depend on selling boosts to feed their families will never shut the fuck up about it.
>>585235562Classes is one thing, we expect multiple retunes, but i think a dev said on Twitter that racial get left alone once the game goes live so people dont get massive sunk cost on racials months in
>>585236603(You) are probably baiting, but if not, stop and just re-read what you've written. You seem very miserable and should seek help. You don't have to live like this.
>>585236813post a drawing
>>585236727yeah from November 5th till 22nd
>>585236474Playing Healer is like being the Goalie in Footie.Nobody notices your work, but if you're not around everyone will immediately shit their pants.
>The darkshore escort doesn’t go into Ashenvale anymore. You run on the road and fight 2 separate packs of mobs and it completes soon after. You then go to down to Ashenvale to turn it in because it’s still timed."the world is the main character" btw
>>585236768You shouldn't spec around having an absolutely perfect situation every time.>>585236802Holy Nova and Binding Heal are both really mana inefficient.
>>585236727Yeah I still have 12 days vacation.Reserved 7 for forever launch.
>>585236727Already spent all my PTO this year on some holidays so I'll just have to be a normal gamer.
>>585236727I'm unemployed
>>585236636That’s just gaming culture as a whole in current year 26. People are obsessed with things failing, always fiending for the next tortanic.
>>585236830were going to get nerfed because were going to get stacked like SoD again because of VE, and we dont like VE
>>585236727No, I have to plan all vacation days the november of the previous year.
>>585236854Me on the right (I wish I was that tall I'm a fucking manlet holy fuck)
>>585236474Healings easy and it gives you free loot with no competition and easy groups / raid spots.
>>585236834Why are you, as a PvE priest, in a position where you're getting hit?
>>585236910Zones are instanced so all multizone escorts were changed.
Are they gonna get rid of random infernals warlocks "forgot" in low level zones?
>>585236830DPS still below every other caster while losing the one reason to be taken on raid groups. Legit no reason to pick it.
>>585236923Shitty bait
>>585237034yeah you probably cant have fun like that anymore
>>58523704715% spirit buff bro
>>585234251mechagnomes are unironically my favourite race and I've not even played them or retail wow
>>585237047The reason to pick it is for 10 mans where you have a Resto Druid and a Resto Shaman.Or maybe Shockadin + SPriest combo can replace a healer slot for faster clears.
>>585236863The way he worded it seemed more like they need to get them right so they don't wind up changing them after launch, not so much they never will. They shouldn't need to change them not that they wouldn't. Probably why they feel kinda sterile outside of 1 or 2 outliers now though.
>>585236474Savior complex of being able to clutch healing during a really rough dungeon run or in world pvp
>>585236959The irony is SWTOR has outlasted a shitton of other competitors and is still consistently profitable
Spriest will be OP when they start adding runes for horizontal progression and spriest gets its tentacle, trust.
>>585236865Youre deflecting! You little faggots will be here crying and screaming when you dont get let into the raid to get gear like the big boys! Dont worry, ill be here to delight in glee and remind you when it happens!!! :3
>>5852367275th and 6thcomfy times ahead
>>585236727work?
>>585237080They ARE really mana inefficient.
>>585237031should just have deleted them entirely if they are that fucking lazy.
Reminder: You clowns wouldnt last 20 seconds in a retail content, thankfully you have Forever, a game made for people of your “skill level” :)
>>585237337Not true, Binding Heal is actually really efficient. Same manacost/coefficient/value as flash heal but it's two targets.
>>585237408Even classic andys can get 3k rio and 3/x mythic
>>585237031Lmao
>>585233328
>>585237248But the big boys are doing mythic raids in retail, not playing a babbified reimagining of a 22 year old game made for 40 year old keyboard turners...
They're coming.
escort quests are fucking shitnobody likes doing them
>>585237498No they didnt faggot :^)
>>585234104
>>585237583in my quivering colon, I hope
>>585237474Yeah, you and the target. It's very efficient if YOU have also taken damage. Otherwise, it has the same mana efficiency problems as flash heal.
>>585237576hey I'm only 38
>>585237182Give him an Elixir of Giant Growth next, give the Red Slut a proper cockdown.
>>585237337Holy nova is the most efficient aoe heal in the game and binding heal is twice as efficient as flash heal
why do people want to play on pvp megaservers again?every zone being a battleground was not the 2005 leveling experience
How's balance druid for solo leveling? I thought about it, this way I could have shared gear for healing and deepsing
>>585237576Big boy for you though, but youre right, even the best fagever player would be nothing in retail, the real game!
>>585237678retard
>>585237583NONOT THE SNEGROW
>>585237698dont sign your posts
>>585233290I was gonna call you out for trying to repeat a flash-in-a-pan success but this song is a monning bop.
>>585237639Yeah imagine using a different spell depending on the situation getting rewarded for it.Why can't you just spam flash of light for maximum efficiency?
>Hes the best Fagever player ever!Ok so he parses grey in retail? gotcha ;)
>>585237678I like the spontaneous pvp, even if it's annoying at times. The pace of everything felt pretty good in the beta.
>>585237678It won't be that in forever either once we spread out and aren't in a small group of zones
>>585233081green only
>>585237583Begging that they're just a Druidform this time. Either Human Druid "Cat"form, or an unlock for Druids when they get the Scythe.
>>585237664>Holy nova is the most efficient aoe heal in the gameThat depends on how many targets you're hitting. If you have a whole raid bunched up in one area, absolutely. If you're using it to throw a quick heal on the tank, absolutely not. In a single-party setting, holy nova is less efficient than prayer of healing.>binding heal is twice as efficient as flash healOnly if you personally have taken damage.
Where do you homosexuals think we’re going for the level 70 expansion? I hope its the Shadowlands so we can properly polish the lore surrounding Pelagos!
>>585237678why do you post this shit? its not funny "baiting" people saying stupid shit just so people call you retarded.
>>585236795based. more time to play
>healing a wetlands excavation as shaman with a pug>get there first, followed by a tank and a dps warrior>hunter shows up after a couple minutes but the mage is still in SW so we start clearing>wordlessly and effortlessly clear trash and the first boss>start clearing the raptors when the mage finally shows up pulling the trash he ran by>i go OOM and we wipe>tank 'DCs', leaves group now THIS is the classic dungeon experience I remember
>>585237873Jimothy expansion
>>585237815but it wont be vanilla like in forever eitherthere'd be like 1 or 2 people in any zone that didn't have dreamfoil in 2005
>>585237842Didn't one expansion have a werecat form and it never came back?
>>585237761I'm saying that as a normal heal and not as a niche heal, it has the same mana problems as flash heal, which is why its better to get the threat reduction talent than to rely on the natural low threat nature of binding heal.
>>585237923>dungeon group>pug
>>585237923>she didn't kick the mage for not being at the dungeon before queuing
>>585236910we live in strange timeline where people are defending 2004 escort quests, which are well known to be turo aids
>>585237585the westfall courier quest was buggy as shit
>>585237986It was a talent in WoD, Claws of Shirvallah or something like that
>>585237938I cant wait till the retail devs add more stuff for you gals :3
>>585237986WoD. Werecat and werebear are cool and should make a come back. If we get worgen maybe they could do it.
>>585237047your spite is the reason to pick it
>>585238013What if they're on a PvP server, anon?
>>585236474I've played DPS and tanks all through WoW. I want to try and heal for once.
>>585236474women make the best healers
Druid is a bit poisoned for me because of all the stupid blue owls I see running around :(
>>585238186Oh I was always gonna pick it, but spite fuels me.
>>585237998flash heal rank 4 never had mana problems and is the only button you spammed in classic
>>585238301No, all the worst healers in raids have always been women.
>>585236424>Blizzard: your time is our moneylol
How good are disc priests in world pvp? Who do I counter and who counters me if I play undead?
>>585238381show their dicks plz
>>585237954More
>>585238381built for knots
>>585227090>"soon"
>>585238531dont ask for dicks from the slop spammerhe's not based and hates futas
>>585237182>>585236854Need to see him humping her face like a pussy
>>585237986WoD's talent "Claws of Shirvallah" turned your Catform into a Saberon. It was visually cool but apparently an absolute shitshow in terms of the numbers under the hood.I don't see why just adding a visual would be the problem. In fact it's just another argument *for* spell VFX customization.They already have a "Snakeform" for Druids if they get the Wailing Caverns set and I don't hear anybody make a big fuss about it so why shouldn't the Scythe of Elune have something similar?
>>585238660>>585238660>>585238660>>585238660
>>585234959Wowhead obviously.Why would you ever need those other sites. You can sim the fucking game in your head.
>>585238540
>>585238402really? ive literally had the opposite experience. I mean fuck foids,, but still
>>585227429If Tinker is supposed to have an authentic playstyle that's not just a one-trick mecha style then it would automatically feel like Hunter, Shaman or Druid.Thus, Spell VFX customization for those classes to change all the pets and nature themed spells into mechanical ones.Thank me later.
>>585237639damn no shit? doing 50% overhealing per cast is inefficient mana?
>>585238024>peoplethat's a frogposter althoughbeit
>>585238820>>585227429So you'd have a class that just has engineering as baseline abilities?
>>585228679Which is better and/or more popular between arms and fury?
>>585227410damn this company must be SHIT!
>>585235886the future is now, old man
>>585228679prot is prolly strongest for leveling since you get more rage by tanking 2-3 mobs and just shieldblock, revenge, cleave them with next to unlimited rage, so killing 1 mob you might be slower than fury and arms but if you can pull 2-4 mobs you will actuall be faster imho.that being said I will prolly go arms with blacksmithing and craft the twohanded axe for level 8, with that and the blacksmith gear you basically 3 hit mobs for a while.
>>585236910Wtf? Lost tech I guess
>>585236727I am unemployed and am seeking disability
