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>Latest patch:
https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial CompetitiveNews
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>585294942
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Does unstoppable work on fear?
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What's with the faggots on reddit defending the horrible state of the game? Everyone saying buy unstoppable early when you're going to be doing fuck all damage to win fights so you're just surviving an extra 10 seconds. That or they say because it's an alpha it's allowed to be a steaming fucking turd. Actual pigs at the trough.
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i think i just solved harrow
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oh my gyatt im so glad to have u guys back i missed /dlg/!
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>>585344924
yes, unstoppable is literally "immune to all CC"
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>>585345032
Bro that's just Venator.
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Greetings, /dlg/.
It is I, Todd Howard. This summer I asked you how optimistic you were about the future of the game on a scale of 1 to 10. The average score was 4.5/10.
Now that the City Never Sleeps update is out and all characters have been released, I once again ask about your opinion on this matter, still on a scale of 1 to 10.
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>>585345032
>vamp burst
>syphon bullets
>no healing tempo
bruh :skull:
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>>585344924
there's a sandbox mode and also a wiki page on Nurse Harrow, if you didn't know
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whats your favorite ship /dlg/ bros? for me, its yams x abrams.
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>>585345102
3/10 right now, it feels like they have no idea what they want the game to be at this point with how the new characters have basically no flaws and are basically playing their own game.
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>>585342275
Is this where these retarded Haze niggers get this mongoloid grief build from??
I've had one of these retards in my team and of course he was completely fucking useless, this shit only works if your team is already carrying (which happened in this match too) and the enemy team are retarded and don't just nuke you whenever you appear
Fuck ecelebs and fuck their retarded subhuman fanbases
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ponder the possibility of a conventionally attractive feral canine hero coming to deadlock
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>>585345102
9/10
violet is a cancer that needs to be reworked since living ink is gamebreaking, her kit is overall underwhelming, and her VA/writing undermines the game's core aesthetic. everything about the update has been fantastic.
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>>585345090
we're so glad you're back anon! post your feminine cock!
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YEAH
YEAH
DO MY FUCKING THINGS
YEAH
YEAH
DO MY BIDDING
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>>585345209
>no flaws
i faceroll every solomon and baba i see as hybrid ivy. baba's thread is bullshit, but she dies to any gun damage, and solomon is a even more of a pushover
rat king is the only one out of the 6 that's really needs to be reigned tf in. also, nurse harrow genuinely has created a new battlemedic niche that the game has needed since it was publicly available
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>>585345217
>phoneposter
opinion invalid, try again when whiter
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>>585345372
If the baba has braincells she buys metal skin + played and she becomes functionally immortal
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>>585345206
Yamato x Me
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>>585345090
we're so glad to have you back in /dlg/ - dog lovers general, anon!
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>enemy team has Solomon, Violet and Harrow
ah yeah its time for AOE Slopfest. Can we get a patch to balance these fucking shits already, its not even that they do shit individually but together the fights become unplayable. Being multiple time feared into Violet walls while stepping on bishop tiles while the Queen crashes multiple times. Like holy fuck its aids. This is one of those releases where there isn't even misplay potential. Like Celeste orb you can just whiff into the ground and well there your entire cooldown goes.

Why does Harrow get an entire 180 line of doing damage, that can fear the same person multiple times, while passively just getting insane HP/S from leeches you can't really engage with in lane in any interesting fashion. At best you bring them to the guardian, and eventually she gets them anyways.
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This is the correct tier list.
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>>585343959
i use this builds: 392573
and this is how i usually end up buying. of course not always getting healbane or spirit res but i just had another depressing game against a victor haze and harrow and it made me so sad. i just dont know what to do when the enemy team just has better characters than your team
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>harrow highest priority
>3 other heroes on lowest priority
>don't get harrow
???
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>>585345708
>can't get one of the most contested picks in the game
wow! shocking.
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>>585345621
>Pocket B
dumb nigger
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>hate playing most of these new trash heroes
>have to because if I don't they'll end up on the enemy team and equal a free win
balance patch cannot come soon enough
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>>585345621
Seven up one tier
Venator down one tier
Pocket up one tier
Silver up eight tiers
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>>585345845
>gets silenced
What now?
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>>585345473
buy curse on tempo
im not saying it's ideal, but i am saying that's what DNS teams have been doing
at least 2 people on the team have curse by 28min
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>>585345876
needs violet ult in the background in the last panel
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>>585345621
KEKdenbros... surely our remodel will come with buffs?
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>>585345102
for me it went from like a 8/10 to 3/10
so many horrible choices and poor design decisions that do not bode well for the future of the game
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>>585345886
New heroes all get mogged by Graves and Wraith thoughbeit.
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お前たちの命は、私のもんだ!!
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>>585345994
>mogged by Graves
Maybe in your pisslow elo.
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>le heckin REWORK
hero just came out

ow and league have fundamentally buckbroken retarded monkeys into thinking any character they don't like should swallow up devtime to make them more redditor dadgamer friendly
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>>585345621
this list was made by someone who started playing with CNS update and hasn't even unlocked ranked yet, I can personally guarantee it
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>>585345471
It's phoneposting you stupid faggot it's youtube's new shitty mobile designed UI
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>>585346203
>It's phoneposting
Thank you for admitting it.
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>>585346065
violet's living ink breaks the game. cry about it.
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>woaw I threw myself into the meat grinder and my meat got ground, nerf the meat grinder
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>>585345621
>Graves and Victor downplay
Must be a day that ends in "y"
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crazy how much shit they had to just completely scrap from neon prime when starting over with deadlock. only a company like valve could allow something like that. thank god for that.
>fully drawn icons and art for each character plus posters from different artists, mostly finished neon map, full tutorial with short story missions, several heroes that were mid development, apparently some scifi Portal goop physics (not sure about this one), completely different shop, voicelines referring to heroes by their neon prime name
good chance that if they started with deadlock initially the game would have been out by now.

(also on that note i actually kinda like the style of some of the handrawn neon prime art that was leaked. gives tf2 comics vibe.)
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>>585346065
if a character is unhealthy and nobody likes playing against it, yeah. it should be reworked.
sorry your braindead retard dogshitly written valorant tier character is badly designed in every aspect.
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>>585346259
No, it doesn't, what the fuck are you on about?
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>open thread
>read opinions of hero shooter nigger tourists
>roll eyes
>go back to buying counter items and winning games because I'm not retarded
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thoughts?
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>585345591
>Why does Harrow get an entire 180 line of doing damage, that can fear the same person multiple times, while passively just getting insane HP/S from leeches you can't really engage with in lane in any interesting fashion. At best you bring them to the guardian, and eventually she gets them anyways.
Because you're shit
Get good
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>>585346280
>meat grinder analogy
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>>585346452
haven't seen an ivy in a coons age way down here in silber
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>>585346452
infernus
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>>585346042
If you're not playing against Zerggy every week you're not good enough to downplay Graves.
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>>585346468
Nobody is saying this.
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>>585346452
>talking bad about wivy
opinion invalidated
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>>585346602
I said this, thoughts?
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I hate Mina so much it's unreal
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>>585346647
>thoughts?
None
Head empty
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I want to rape every danny player to death
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>>585344623
>>585344629
>GMFF(German Male, French Female) in the 1800's
They met after Sadowa didn't they
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Just deranked
Feel like shit, like I'm just shit at the game and my wins are only because I get carried
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Flopping knotty dogcock.
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>game starts
>4 russians instantly speak and text 24/7
amazing. keep astroturfing this game it's 100% going to be the next league of legends!
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>>585346159
It's the tierlist of Vegas
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FACT: i do not find it enjoyable if a wraith is my game because then it turns into a meta game of either playing for the wraith and making sure they get all the farm so they can faceroll the enemy
OR
if they are on the enemy team having to plan your entire strategy around jumping her so she never gets enough souls. not a single character pick should be this powerful its retarded
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>>585346825
you can by just slowing hexing him
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>>585346943
FACT: Shes been like this since at least March
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newfag here, how do I politely tell my carry teammate to not rush ricochet?
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>>585346892
What rank are you frend?
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>>585346902
why's it flopping, paige not doing her job properly
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>>585347072
You don't, play carry instead until you reach high ascendant or eternus and people SORTA understand what they're doing
Radiant regen wraith is OP rn you will farm noobs with it.
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Any good Silver build?
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>>585345621
Rat king was not picked or banned in latest DNS at all because it's figured out and assraped by Grey Talon
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>>585346452
I've yet to see an impactful Graves outside of brawl. They're not Mina-tier going 1-10 of course, but neither they get more than 3 to 2 k:d
Ivy might as well be invisible
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>>585347147
ye, you should rush ring of repick
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>>585347093
Frog
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>>585347147
You unselect silver and play yamato
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>>585346915
EU and RU servers were merged, enjoy!
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>>585347216
Same! I'm only Frog 1 though so don't feel too bad. I think it means you're above average which is pretty good.
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>>585347147
Stop playing Silver and pick Yamato like every other Silver player
t. Silver "player"
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>>585345924
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>>585347139
it popped out early and when that happens she looks at it flop up and down for a bit before stuffing it in her mouth
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>>585346321
Just look at what happened to Bioware. Wasted too much devtime on dogshit so they went under. Valve can afford unlimited devtime to the point where they get a game 60%(70%? who the fuck knows) to completion and then can scrap almost everything. It's unthinkable for anyone else but Valve has an infinite money printer through Steam
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>game so dead they are already merging servers
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>>585347319
kek nice
isn't there a non censored version of this image tho I swear I've seen one before
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what kind of build is this
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>>585347267
like 5 more matches of this and i'm completely done dropping the game for a year again
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>>585346915
>nooo you can't communicate
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>>585347538
A damage build
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>>585346915
I assumed there were dedicated russian servers. Are you saying there are english-speaking players in my games? Because I usually get 2-3 russians talking shit in voice with no english speakers.
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>>585347172
its about the invisible imapct you may not be paying attention to. easily clearing wave and jungle, ivy being able to go anywhere on the map within like 5 seconds because of her flight every minute. its fucking insane if you compare a kit like hers to like. paradox.
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>>585346915
>>585347613
Russians are instantly muted
You either speak English or not at all
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what characters do i pick if i want to win. im sick of losing games and not being able to have a large impact
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>>585347624
they merged them for faster matchmaking
the people not talking are the ones that muted you
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This is pretty autistic but I have a log off "ritual" where I switch to Rem and go to his room before closing the game for the night
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>>585347538
3maxxing if i had to wager
shit does like +2k dmg and stuns you and heals her and gives her a permanent buff, just because she looked at you
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>>585347835
there never were russian servers
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>>585345209
>>585345948
The only objectively bad thing from this update is Violet. Everything else can be fixed.
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>>585347824
Spirit Ivy
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>>585347871
That's cute tho
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>>585347871
>logoff ritual
>daily win bonus still on screen
remsissy..
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I feel like I'm fucking crazy when I see all these weird hybrid Holliday spirit/gank builds because I'm seemingly the only one on the planet playing gun Holliday to success
Give me that Holliday build I wanna try it
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>if you look someone you get permanent stats!
this guy made dota BTW
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Alright, absolutely no bias. Who would win if both of them are at peak performance.
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violets 3 should INSTA break when you break los. why does billy ult get raped by cover but violet can do whatever the fuck she wants
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>>585348124
>Blitz throws one hook and runs out of mana
>Bebop puts one bomb and runs away
They both lose
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>>585348124
Bebop clears easily, both in speed and power.
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>>585348112
>this guy made dota BTW
You say that as if dota is a pinnacle of game design
Dota has variety going for it but it's always been a hyper imbalanced mess
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>>585347881
Yes there were.
t.had russian friends
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A pair of chudbots
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>>585348112
That's exactly how you know he made Dota because modern dota has le infinite scaling meme slapped on almost every kit now.
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>>585348086
You literally can't vote rn THO
TOURIST
EXPOSED
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>>585348124
pre-nerf gunbop rapes blitzcrank at his peak balance-wise
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>try out the decay ivy build that the spirit ivy cucks keep clamoring about
>it does fucking nothing in lane
>it does fucking nothing midgame
>it does fucking nothing lategame

fuck you faggots
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>>585348124
Blitz, Blitz effectively has 2 maul hands while Bebop only has 1 and they both punch people into the air, he could also short circuit Bebop
But Bebop's bomb could destroy Blitz so... maybe a tie but favoring Blitz
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>>585348502
If you mean like Ashires decay ivy where he rushes decay first item it's just something he does for fun
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>>585348412
rem/graves/apollo were a mistake, now we have these unfunny wholesome chungus artists along with their tranny fans to pollute the discussion.
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>>585348502
decay is just a really good damage farmer. i also saw a trend back then with viscous rushing decay first item. these retards have insane brain rot
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I love when people are screaming at each other in russian in the first three minutes of the game, it's the sign you're in for a great match!!
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>>585348562
>graves/apollo
why
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>>585348502
you fell for it like a dumbass.
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>>585348610
spirit/decay ivy is literally as fucking useless as a spirit geist is
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>>585348502
kek we got another one lads!
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>>585348610
Remember when midwit theorycrafters were saying you should build Decay on fucking Silver to proc her ult instead of just hitting their fucking shots?
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>>585348502
Decay is a bait item, that shit has never been good.
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>>585348965
it's kinda nice on shiv because you passively farm rage
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Yup its peak
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>>585345102
The game itself ? 8/10 (Violet excluded)
The fanbase ? 2/10.
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>>585349179
the reddit for deadlock went from 200k weekly users to almost 1m weekly users during this patch so go figure
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>>585349312
Lots of Rivals streamers are hopping on this game. It's funny, since it was well-timed with release of Harrow who is the Rivalsslop support hero of this game
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>>585348641
completely up to you to get mad at that btw
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>>585349437
there's a massive amount of normie youtuber/streamer people getting into the game as well from people like redditcritikal, redditlion, redditjerma etc.
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>>585349537
That explains the influx of trannies and tranny adjacent memes
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>>585347871
I literally alt f4 out of every game when I'm done
Fuck valve for disabling that in their games and making me click exit game like a fucking slave
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>>585347871
you are retarded, never post again
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im this close to 100 games on vindicta so i'll hit that and not play as her again
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>five win streak
it's all coming together
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>>585348124
I don't know the other one but Bebop would think about Ms.Shelly and power up, winning the fight
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this game feels terrible to lose in
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>people are still harping on about Violet
There's nothing wrong with her, some minor writing hiccups that are easily fixed but overall I don't mind her and think she's fun to play
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>>585349908
That's all mobas
You just need a solid mental/find enjoyment in improving or not winning.
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>>585346943
She's not even good ok they don't pick her in night shift you know
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you're playing a reddit game
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>>585347871
Based and cute
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this game feels amazing to win in
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>>585350026
i only play 4chan heroes tho?
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>>585349979
The kit is fun but she is too op. I don't want to rank up with a cheater character.
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>>585350140
How's she op?
She might need some minor number adjustments but other than that she seems fine to me, maybe reduce ult duration
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>>585350026
if i told you there was a reddit sub for 4chan, would you fuck off out of here
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>4chan heroes
Venator
Haze
Geist
Baba
Graves
Abrams
Harrow
Rat King

>reddit
everyone else
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>Kill 30 people as Drifter
>The one team fight I get caught off position my team gets pushed and we lose
I guess he's not great if the team can't push the advantage huh
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>>585350026
You're playing a 4chan game
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>>585350240
rat king is reddit as fuck kill yourself faggot
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any game made by valve is fundamentally a 4chan game
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>>585350418
Just like [random female character] is actually trans
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>>585350361
>when the 60k souls on the team guy dies and the remaining 240k combined soul teammates lose to the 280k combined enemy
wow shocker
Yes, you have a higher responsibility to not play like a retard/be out of position when you're hogging the teams networth, if you die then your team is at a disadvantage
Don't reply with some stupid cope, this is how playing pos1/carry is like in every game
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>>585349908
Losing in this game radicalizes you easily into being a pos1 player
>>585350097
Winning in this game when you're playing pos1 will completely radicalize you into being a pos1 player
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Laning phase is completely irrelevant unless your team loses all lanes hard
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>>585350745
>lose lane
>down in souls and kills
>team morale is down
>enemy morale is high
>lose game
retard
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>>585345102
It's objectively The Next Big thing when you have absolute normalfaggot retards like TimTheFatMan and Moistcritikal playing it, but unfortunately that also means that Valve will have to cater to this normalfag audience instead of the drunk slav userbase of Dota 2.
6.5/10 for my personal enjoyment, 9/10 for Valve's bottom line.
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>>585350525
Drifter really isn't a pos1 character though. Most of my networth came from picking off enemy players on their side of the map while my team had space to farm and push lanes. I was only slightly ahead of our carries in terms of souls because I barely got a single creep.
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Do (You) play ranked, or just standard?
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>>585350890
No its the biggest thing until riot finally rushes out their version that is far easier to understand, far less weird and palatable for the normies and you can brain dead friend que in for hours.
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If I'm starting to find street brawl too batshit and unfun at times, should I try learning the main mode or is this just not the game for me?
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Harrow's flopping well-kept nursecock
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>>585351031
I want to play ranked again, but they won't let me anymore because they want me to win 15 games on another hero...
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>>585351031
I stopped playing ranked with the new characters coming out because there's no semblance of balance right now. Standard is unfortunately complete ass so I might just stop playing until they balance it.
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>>585351031
I don't play this game at all.
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>>585351031
Not touching ranked again until Baba, Violet, and Rat king are all <40% WR griefer picks
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>>585351179
Streetbrawl is objectively horrible right now so you should play standard and learn the game.
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>>585351179
The game clearly does need a bit of trimming in complexity overall. Like 12 items is just too many, that means theirs 60 items on the enemy team by min 30 that can hard counter your entire hero you have to keep track of.
Way too much
Niggas can seethe but I think the game would just function better with like 8 and a lot of the smaller items being cut
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>>585350890
The drunk asocial slav playerbase is just as bad if not worse than idiot normalfags, they killed dota with their cancer
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>>585351031
play? I thought we all just post arts and memes here
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At this point I'm starting to think I'd rather have a faggot tranny celeste player who spend the entire match erping in the chat with smileyfaces (not sure why this is such a common phenomenon) than another russian subhuman on my team
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>>585351415
I actually agree because it'll at least force you to make a decision on how you're building your character instead of just getting all the strong items for that character. Right now it's just farm until you're a raid boss.
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>>585351174
Riot won't do shit, they can't even do a lazy release of LoL Classic because they're too retarded and Chinks have moved on. They're all in on their MMO and guess what like every MMO since WoW it will flop and possibly bring them down with it. It's way more likely the first successful Deadlock copy comes from China, they have been having a lot of success copying western franchises in recent years (ABI, Delta Force...)
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>>585348124
2xko blitz would win, league blitz loses
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Normalfags are based. Yes, Deadlock would be better with less visual clutter and simple ults.
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>>585351174
>league is dead
>valorant is dead
>their mmo didn't even get made
>their fighting game flopped
lol

lmao
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>>585351415
>>585351578
>>585351179
silence broolers. you are not allowed to discuss that which you don't grasp.
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>>585351419
I'd rather have the drunk asocial slav userbase than the normalfag userbase who think this game is a Hero Shooter, complain their gun do no dmg at lvl1, parasite online discourse with ships and identity politics etc.
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>>585351415
Also we only got like 40 heros but I feel like they already ran out of abilty ideas. So many of them sre just does damage in straight line and randomly lowers a enemy stat like bullet res or stamina or something
Dota at 100 heros had less interchangeable skills probably because top down its far easier to convey complicated skills
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>>585349908
Every comeback mechanic is counterbalanced (and often outweighed) by winners' advantage
>GUARDIAN: Forward shop is really useful
>WALKERS: Winning team gets more slots, losing team doesn't get any comeback mechanics for walker sieges so the winning team can easily keep the losers itemlocked
>BASE GUARDIANS: Winning team gets to out-rotate on that entire half of the map
>SHRINES: Winning team gains autopushing lanes AND the troopers are now worth less for the losing team, strangling their eco even harder Compare this to LoL where killing the shrine equivalent is a good thing but could potentially backfire because if you don't take advantage of the free map pressure, the losing team now gets relatively safe farm, it's conditional and actually offers a possible way out for the losers rather than further strangling
Genuinely the comeback mechanics seem to exist only to drag matches out, otherwise in a game with this much mobility, the winning team should completely roll the losers
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>>585350890
>Valve will have to cater to this normalfag audience instead of the drunk slav userbase of Dota 2.
thank fuck, this alone puts it at least 7/10 for me, so sick of asocial retards on my team
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>>585350240
>rat king instead of danny
oh nonono harrowkeks...
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>>585351578
Oh yeah theirs a point in every deadlock match I just end up buying 3-5 generic damage/survivabilty items because I have so many empty slots
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>>585349908
>>585350097
>playing with friends
>losing all games
>swap off paradox
>start winning
>swap back
>start losing again
I'm starting to think they don't like it when I'm on this dork but her voice is so nice
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>>585351759
Like old valve would have made danny jetpack a passive you upgrade and his 3 wouldn't exist
Why does he have a random straight forward flamethrower attack that randomly lowers bullet res?
???
Paasives aren't a problem.
But this random bullshit tacked on just makes chatsters feel less unique when they have something like 12 other characters also have
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>lobby larping
>holliday player is actually a southern woman
>laughing and making fun of my pocket for dying
>immediate boner
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Her art looks boring
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>>585351031
I play street brawl exclusively
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>>585351749
>I'd rather have the drunk asocial slav userbase than the normalfag userbase
No you don't
>who think this game is a Hero Shooter
It is as well as a moba
>complain their gun do no dmg at lvl1
This doesn't happen
>parasite online discourse with ships and identity politics etc
Only good point you made
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>Playing victor
>Enemy has Nurse, Solomon, Rat king and Violet ults for rift fight
>Tell my team to just stall and not die for rift while I splitpush because we're not winning that shit in a direct teamfight
>Get base turret + Shrine for free
>Team has a turbo sperg reaction because I'm playing this like a moba instead of marvel rivals
This was high ascendant as well, do people just not like macro at all? I would understand if I didn't comm this shit but I did and was explicit about it.
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Why the flying fuck Sinclair's ability upgrades are the same as they were in 2025. Everyone had ability upgrades updated. Except him. He has shitty wr as usual. Shitty pickrate. Not picked in Night Shift. When he gets a moment in the sun Yoshi fucking nukes him. Delete the character already so I can uninstall the game and move to a better one.
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Nurse harrow has utterly ruined the game. I dont care about her teamfight healing but the fact she just instantly heals anyone who takes damage in lane and mid game makes the game utterly retarded. There's no point doing ANYTHING on the map cause harrow will heal them. You need your entire team to burst someone or to gank the harrow so she cant heal. It's actually made the game stupid in a way I never considered possible
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>>585352663
>Delete the character already so I can uninstall the game and move to a better one.
just fucking uninstall the game and move on? or are you such a mentally ill russian that you can't even do that? lmao
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>>585352663
i love how sinclair got nerfed BECAUSE RAT KINGS ULT WAS TOO GOOD
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK JUST NERF THE FUCKING RAT INSTEAD OF HIM
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>>585352663
all hopoo heroes suck and the 4 hero update remains by far the worst group hero update (violet is the worst individual hero, though)
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>>585352864
They didnt want him to steal the other new heroes ults and be OP in the same way, they all have strong ults.
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>doormancucks seethe he's shit
>sinclaircucks seethe he's shit
>bebopcucks seethe he's shit
keep crying you faggots
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>>585352663
bolt t3: now has infinite range
assistant t3: swapping refreshes duration
rabbit t3: now snares
ult t3: can now copy teammate ults
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>>585352520
Shes only exists for gooner bait and not even good gooner bait like Mina or paige
Genuinely the worse nu character
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>>585352730
Her heal is way too powerful. Is there even any hero in Dota that heals this much so often?
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>>585352956
Who tf complains about bebop he's been fine for ages
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>be abrams
>phantom strike danny
>he's still in the air
>phantom strike AND charge him into the wall on air
>he does not go to the ground or get stunned
>in fact, he dives someone else and just escapes
brother what
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>>585352971
>Sinclair if he was released in CNS
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>>585352956
>bebopcucks seethe he's shit
They're shitters that are building him wrong and more importantly can't land hooks for the life of them so they're dead weight
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I feel like it is going to take more than 1000 hours for me to unlock ranked. I keep trying out different heroes to figure out what I like and learn everyone kits.
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>>585353107
what is building him right, praytell?
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>>585352916
Then they should've just nerfed his ult. They also nerfed his lane poke, his rabbit, his ability to wreck walkers.
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>>585351031
i dont play this game at all
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>>585351687
Lack of normalfags killed Dota unironically
And Valve being retarded and allowing smurfs to make an already hard sell new player experience one of the worst in gaming until they realized after years of griefing that allowing Ivan and miserable sadistic poorfag to smurf and ruin new player matches is not the best business move
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>>585353229
hint: not echo shart
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>>585351031
stopped playing ranked once they split the queues
honestly glad I did because every match with those new heroes is very unfun but then again if it weren't for them it would be something else like celeste or haze
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>>585353197
I also queue standard with like 10 people right now. I think if I queued Mo, Billy and +1 like Paige or Celeste I'd get ranked much more quickly.
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>>585352972
mina, celeste, and silver are the only fappable characters on the roster
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>>585352889
all of those heroes are fun though
>>585353107
he IS deadweight outside of his hook, that's the problem
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>>585353394
and yet every time I get a gun bebop on my team he's the most useless sack of shit
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>>585353043
i complain that they killed melee bebop for no reason, some dev probably got raped by one so they stealth nerfed it
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>>585353421
no graves or vindicta?
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>>585353514
>he IS deadweight outside of his hook, that's the problem
You can't make a hook character too good or they become insanely overpowered
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Violet+Bebop might be one of the most jerusalem lanes I've ever had to play against
EIther Violet gets a free 25 meter stun on you before you notice it's even targetting you and get to cover, giving bebop a free hook and you're dead 100-0
Or Bebop manages to randomly hook you, at which point violet gets a free stun follow up and you'Re dead 100-0
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>bebop uppercut can push Solomon's Setup Bishop and Develop Queen.
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>>585353586
Graves is like Violet. She's not unattractive but she's just kind of cute
Vindicta probably would be but the foot fetishists really ruined her for me early and now I just have a gag reflex to her
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>>585353672
violet is cancer in general
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>>585353514
>he IS deadweight outside of his hook, that's the problem
as he should be, which unfortunately he isn't he still has good mobility and decent damage output and tankiness.

Hook is the single most powerful non ult cooldown in the game, it's a better paradox ult without the downsides.
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>>585349619
>he alt-f4's out of game like some goyslave
>he doesn't rip the power cable out of his PC after his daily 10-game win streak
I can't imagine how many generations of spiritual enslavement your ancestors must've underwent to produce such a weak-willed individual as yourself, must be a European
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what the fuck did they do to the matchmaking? I'm playing with way more russians and utter retards
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which characters (aside from Doorman) could kill Drifter?
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>Bebop has Holliday and Paradox ult as a regular ability on a 10 second cooldown
This hero rightfully should be fucking terrible and frankly needs a completely new kit altogether because right now it's nonsensical Neon Prime shit, why the fuck does a pit fighter robot made by a magical negro woman put seamines on people and have a death laser?
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>>585353721
>>he doesn't rip the power cable out of his PC after his daily 10-game win streak
I actually used to do this as a kid, rather not unplug but hit the off button on the power strip with my toe (it was under the desk)
I stopped when it bricked my computer
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>>585353707
Vindicta is my number 1 Deadlock girl, most cute voice and face, insanely sexy body too
And I was to throw footfags into a pool of lava
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>>585353849
same, they merged all servers and stopped giving a shit about ranks
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>"YOU CAN'T CALL HER GOONBAIT SHE'S LITERALLY A REGULAR GIRL"
>Hero drops with 1.5 good abilities and abysmal writing
How did people instantly clock it?
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>>585353871
After the new Silver lines we're left with two possibilities:
- Silver is actually very strong
- Drifter is actually a jobber
In case numero dos, pretty much most of the cast would give him a run for his money especially people with great achievements like Ivy or good fighters like Infernus.
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>>585353871
Ven has all the tools needed. Grey Talon probably has some anti vampire tech. Dynamo and Seven could completely obliterate him maybe?
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>Harrow just straight up can't be be hit during ult
>She just buys refresher to win each objective
>Can't even hide behind walls to block it
>Violet is still a broken buggy piece of shit

So when do they plan on doing balance changes? Rat King was nerfed so quickly and they took Baba out back to break her legs.
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>>585353394
No shit, even before the giganerf it was bad. Not going to give a real answer? Typical /dlg/ behavior.
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>>585354035
>YOU CANT CALL HER GOONBAIT SHES JUST A REGULAR GIRL
>character herself is horny for 80% of the cast
>complete silence
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>>585353714
People that want Bebop to be stronger are probably Pudgeniggers who are upset their heroes isn't perma strong forever even though hook is and always will be one of the strongest types of abilities in these kinds of games
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>queue up
>dont get the hero I queued up for with double prio
>soft throw the match
GIVE ME THE HERO I WANT PLEASE
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>>585354136
>>585353871
I don't think drifter is that strong in direct fight, there's a reason his abilities and playstyle is about jumping people and making things unfair
He's got a high kill count cuz he's a faggot teleporting to the backline and making it so everyone else can't fight back cuz they're blind
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>>585354136
Drifter went toe to toe with prime talon and the old fart was no joke
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>>585354216
>no shit
and yet majority of bebops still build it, not as obvious as you may think
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>Really want to play Deadlock
>PC is more than strong enough to handle it
>Keep getting lag spikes regardless of what graphics settings I use
>Scared to play because what if it runs like shit and I lose
I heard the game runs entirely on the CPU.
Why is Valve retarded?
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>>585354184
I dont understand why they thought she needed damage IMMUNITY during her max rank ult
Even a free Cheat Death(cant go below 1 hp during ult) would have been better
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is this real? why the fuck did trolli sponsor nightshift?? how????
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>Going against Infernus and Haze
>Get fed in lane
>Rush Plated Armor when I reasonably can
>Go 1v1 against one of them
>I still get melted anyway, at best I live for a second longer
This item is fucking useless. I even got spell breaker and I still couldn't win against them. At least spell breaker let me live a lot longer. So how the fuck are you supposed to counter these faggot characters.
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>>585354448
>ahzealion
this dude genuinely needs to get shot by a haitian illegal
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>>585352992
The only thing I could think of that matches Harrow's burst healing is Pugna or someone like Chen, but even that costs health in the case of the former or is the ult in the case of the later so it's not quite the same.
Harrow's heal is very much TF2 Medic-amounts of burst healing, which is not something you get in mobas very often. I think if you reduce the bonus she gets from leeches it might make it more balanced but even that doesn't do much because she scales not only on leech stacks but also on ammo and you can't nerf that aspect.
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>>585354253
She has the hots for Victor like every other female character and that's literally it
>muh Silver!
Artist mirin Silver's peak performance body and an innocent young woman's girlcrush, a fuckton of women have had girlcrushes in their younger years
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>>585354426
It reminds me when they gave Mercy from overwatch damage immunity as she ulted meaning she could rez her whole team with zero counter play. This feels the same to me.
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>>585352520
true it should be feral porn instead
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>>585353945
>I actually used to do this as a kid, rather not unplug but hit the off button on the power strip with my toe (it was under the desk)
I used to do that as well back in the 90's
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>>585354184
just CC Harrow when she ults
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>>585354330
>and yet majority of bebops still build it
You lie, I just checked and in-game it says only 24% buy it :^)
but man what a shitty item. You can buy Surge of Power and Torment Pulse for that money
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>>585354494
>infernus
walk away
dispell magic
spirit res
preferrably walk away

>haze
walk away
metal skin
preferrably walk away
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>>585354375
People love to meme about how source engine runs on everything but I feel like modern source 2 runs like fucking garbage
Where in CSGO I used to play on 64man zombie servers no problem I used to get like 30 FPS in CS2 after they made the switch to Source 2
And I had to set down every single setting in deadlock to lowest and play with DLSS on to have a playable FPS on my old PC (3060 and 11th gen intel CPU), which someone is gonna say DURRR THAT'S NOT A GOOD PC, sure, but it's a fucking moba not a cinematic 3d person single player game it shouldn't fucking NEED a good PC
Nowadays I have a 5070 and a 14th gen CPU and with every setting on highest my game can't keep a consistent 120FPS
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>>585354494
You should only buy Plated Armor to pair with Metal Skin (for relevant characters, good against Vind, not necessary against Ven). The item in itself does NOTHING.
Due to this, Armor Piercing Rounds is also useless because Bullet Resist is an useless stat.
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>>585354136
I mean Silver is already on the upper end of the roster when it comes to strength, she turns into a gigantic muscular beast. And the whole thing about Shiv and Drifter teaming up to defeat Silver seems retarded, we're missing some context.
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>>585354797
>The item in itself does NOTHING
Genuine retardation
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>>585354184
>and they took Baba out back to break her legs.
lolwut

baba is still by far and away the strongest in the entire game, just nobody plays her because she's objectively fucking boring
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>>585354375
Could be packet loss
My friend has not great internet and any packet loss makes the game run like shit
The game is very unoptimized and a lot of menial shit like hair physics is handled server side for some reason
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>>585354375
Nah there cannot be a chance it's that CPU dependent because I have Ryzen 5 3600X from like 7 years ago and get 140+ avg fps
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>>585354035
Normies love her.
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>>585354035
People just don't trust their own eyes.
Nooooo shes not goonbait because because because
I looked at her portrait and I just saw she filled the archetype of asian arthoe
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>>585354543
>not using his wolf violet skin
ngmi
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>>585354984
>packet loss
Maybe
But I was playing around in the sandbox and getting dropped frames just fucking around
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>>585354375
Are you getting lag spikes or jitters? I used to get net jitters while playing all the time that totally fucked my game, I'm pretty sure it was a memory leak-type issue and closing/restarting the game every other game or so seemed to fix it.
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>Bullet Resist is an useless stat
Why is this retardation to prevalent in /dlg/?
Oh wait I just remembered that a lot of posters here are genuine Street Brawl mains
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>>585355115
i will never fucking forget the geist main in /dlg/ that kept screaming that spirit geist is the best but the motherfucker didn't even know that sliding gives unlimited ammo lmao
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>>585355107
jitters i believe
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>>585355068
fugg forgot pic
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>>585353871
Most of drifters kills are defenseless hobos
He's just an old vampire going around killing random people
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>>585354771
>walk away
>Infernus chases you down with 1 of 3 of his flame dash charges and if you don't die to that he reapplies it afterburn faster than your dispel can come back
>Haze hits you with sleep dagger and slowing hex so you're not walking away
So just accept being raped. How fun!
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Harrow is one of the best/most fun heroes we have had since Doorman imo.
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>>585355115
Yes dude, every statistical site actually only tracks /dlg/ games that's why Bullet Resilience is the worst item in the game on all of them
It's totally you who's above everyone else and has it figured out
>inb4 UMM STATISTICS DON'T COUNT WHEN THEY POINT OUT I'M WRONG
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>>585355262
>So just accept being raped. How fun!
pretty much yeah
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>>585355107
ahh yes of course the memory leak type issue causing the net jitters you're so smart anon big technology words
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>>585354035
Violetfags are also trying and failing to do subversive shit like making people think Lash has bad character design and writing
>>585354253
Violet is simultaneously "just a normal girl" and also the game's new LGBT icon that gets shipped with everybody
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>>585355115
People often confuse bullet resist and bullet resilience
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>>585355334
So many things in the game randomly lowers bullet res
So you're spending a fuck ton of souls to still be put at 0%
Complete immunity during bursts or just killing them first will always be better
I can't imagine a scenario where just disabling them and shooting them death wouldn't be more effective than being able to take a couple more shots
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>baba is overpowered
>ranked winrate stats back that statement up
>baba being banned in pro matches also backs that statement up
>/dlg/ redditors will still say winrates don't matter
never seen a playerbase for an online competitive videogame be so fucking cucked and raped by winrate % stats before in my entire life
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>>585354184
Rat king didn't deserve the nerfs
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I don't know why I tried playing Venator he does no damage for the longest time. The only time he can maybe do something is when he ults but most of the enemy team will do everything possible to fuck you over or hide the second they hear it. The cool down is stupidly long too. I am gonna quit playing his ass after my 15 wins with him.
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>>585354782
>Nowadays I have a 5070 and a 14th gen CPU and with every setting on highest my game can't keep a consistent 120FPS
bullshit.
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>>585355334
>Bullet Resilience
That's a specific item, not the stat, you listed the stat and said it was bad
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>>585355214
Yeah just try closing the game after every two games or so, it worked for me.
>>585355408
I'm not going to pretend to understand why it works or the underlying cause of it but all I can say is that it worked for me and other anons.
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>>585354621
anon please...just read her dialogue she's horny for haze and mcginnis too
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>>585355628
Why play venator when any other stupid faggot nigger m1 character does the same thing but better without even trying
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>>585355628
Venator is good if you aren't an aimlet but most Deadlock players are
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peak mod
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>>585355628
venator is fine I don't understand people that bitch about him
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>>585355498
the average poster here is either a street brawl spammer or so much of a sperg they can't escape low prio
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>>585355256
>Calico, Talon, Vindicta
>Ambush people like cowards
>Drifter, Geist
>Kill hobos
>Shiv
>Has to team up with a vamp like a bitch to beat a girl
Seven and Silver have actual feats. Silver regularly puts Vyper in prison and fought Shiv and Drifter at the same time. Seven killed a bunch of powerful occultists.
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>>585355498
Half of the peopl3 that play this game can't aim and think spirt is better than gun on 99% of heros
Its not judt buying a bunch of gun items will insta delete most of the cast if you have any kind of tracking abilty
>>585355628
Venator is a really boring hero to the point they can't really buff a fun part of his kit. He doesn't have one. He just has a bunch of generic damage abilties so the only buff they can give him is just more damage
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>>585355820
>and think spirt is better than gun on 99% of heros
It's almost like it is
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>>585355873
These people don't even play the game man lmao
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>>585353871
If he sleeps? Rem but Rem is too innocent unironically Viscous
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>>585355820
venator has the most fun abilities in the game what is this slander
the grenades are fun to bounce
the shotgun is fun to pin people against the wall and heavy them
the traps are fun to lead people into or secure a doorway
the ult is fun because it does so much damage and it has no falloff
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>>585349865
jesus fucking christ it had to stop somewhere
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>>585355279
I really like her because she makes me feel more like a battle medic than the other supports in the game, but sometimes my teammates just dive and get burst down before I can heal them
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Is there some secret with bullet shred and melee damage?
It seems like it disproportionately increases melee damage compared to weapon damage when it should be the opposite
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>>585355646
ok
here's me randomly standing in china town, no fighting, no other players, just standing there
FPS in top right
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>>585355334
Item update can't come soon enough.
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>>585355115
Because the majority of heroes do majority spirit damage, and if you're actually dying to bullet then metalskin/plated are both far better buys thanks to shred being so commonplace.
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>>585355775
Most Venator players are bad
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>>585356015
>soon enough
2027
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>>585356009
>not an x3d cpu
sucks to suck
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>>585355746
Because he looked cool but his kit isn't as fun as I thought. I also feel like he just takes too long to build to be somewhat useful. So if my team feeds within a short time I can't do shit. A few times I might be able to combo someone dead but most time they will keep their distance.
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how the FUCK do you go 0/11/0 on fucking DANNY!?
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>>585356125
i don't understand how people do badly on danny because going up against a danny in lane and getting hit by a single strix salvo and a shot from hime takes away 5k hp
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>>585355976
it's because you picked violet
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>>585356215
You miss the shot. A lot of them just kinda play like Pharaoh and sit a mile away spamming rockets when you need to get in there
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>you are now forced to stay on a zipline for 1 second if you decide to hop on to it
i fixed the game just now
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>>585356303
>(((fixed))) the game by addressing something that isnt an issue and no one has ever complained about
tales from bricklo
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>>585355976
>meme item cooldown reduction build
Midwits are really falling for this trap
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Silver is canonically one of the strongest participants in the ritual, she should be buffed into at least B tier
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OOF YIIIIIIIIIIIIKES

looks like people don't like aoe slop deathball meta dogshit matchmaking after all LOL!
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>>585356494
All because of Violet btw.
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is rat king worth playing for newfags
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>>585356303
Or we could just fix the decades-old Source movement issues that have been in almost every single Valve game ever made and fix the issue at the Source
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I don't like name.
Years later and deadlock is still a forgettable name
Doesn't have the same punch as
League
Dota
Csgo
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>>585356531
She really killed the game, what a horrendous character
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>>585353707
Nothing wrong with feet
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>>585356590
CSGO is cringe as fuck, fuck you
CS and CSS went hard and CSGO was some fisher price tier name
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>>585356562
he's the designated retard character of this patch
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>yamato can no longer cancel her own grapple, now always flies to target when you press it
fixed the game just now
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>>585356242
Jujutsu kaisen "memes" are the most soulless and forced shit ever
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>>585356436
we didn't have a frontliner so i was just running up to tank and pop my ult and stun
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>>585354136
Infernus would most likely win against Drifter because vampires are weak against fire
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>>585356562
His kit is fairly straightforward and his general tankiness may help forgive any poor dives you make. However you may rely on that tankiness as a crutch and develop bad habits like diving in at the wrong moments relying on skills to save you versus having better decision-making.
I would say he's fine to start with but I would also mix in some other heroes so you don't get too one-note.
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>>585356531
>>585356632
Ratnigger abusers deflecting
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Fuck Danny- what a miserable fucking hero to play against. Jetpack characters in these games are always absolute cancer to play against and it’s why rocket jumping remains the only honest method of vertical height generation that offers counterplay and requires skill to use.

Laning against Danny is just ass. Mid game against Danny is ass. Being behind a fed Danny is ass. It’s just cancer all around.
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>silver transforms into an anatomically correct feral female wolf with a puffy cookie instead of a werewolf
fixed the game just now
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>>585356674
Is is fine
But css better than csgo? I played aource and I don't remember a single time someone said let's hop on css
It was always just cs, and they opened source instead
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>>585356929
if you post the steamchart where she caused the game to hit the all time peak, it'll mindbreak them
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what race is this?
looks like monkey
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>>585356954
Danny was fine before the buffs, after the buffs he is impossible to deal with. I hate the heal he gets from 2, and your only options to ground him are knockdown which means you better have time to capitalize on it instantly. Or Slowing Hex, which only stops him from clicking 2 and the self-stun isn't so bad that it kills the hero.
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>constant seethe about the one non-AoEslop hero in the patch every half an hour or so
Starting to nootice
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>>585356954
I played competitive 6v6 tf2 for years as a roamer solider main
Rocket jumping is so fucking easy, and brain dead.
Rocket jumping maps are hard but in an actual game it takes zero thought
At most you shoot the floor and a wall and now you sre on top of their med
Maybe throw in minor air strafing if a scout is looking up
Regardless rocket jumping is 10x more fun
Remove the jetpack and make his rocket launcher propel you 3x farther
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>>585357165
his m1 is aoe bro
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>>585354136
drifter scares most of the cast shitless, is at least as old as the viscount of the largest city in the north american baronies and has held his own in multiple fights with talon, a legendary figure, he's not street tier, werewolves just aren't to be fucked with in most settings

besides that, shiv is implied to be in the same ballpark as all 3, venator has killed werewolves before and is implied to be talon's equal and seven is playing with doorman tier magic
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>>585357165
his jetpack and strix takes no aim whatsoever and are aoe
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>>585357164
>Danny was fine before the buffs, after the buffs he is impossible to deal with
Do we play the same game?
Are you people just fucking terrible?
These are his top 10% stats by the way, 44.7% winrate
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>>585356494
WOW
Youre telling me
That people don't want to play the game
Thats objectively been the same aoe deathball meta for months if not years
Even with 6 new heroes that added EVEN MORE aoe abilites?!
WTF?!?!?!?!
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>>585356954
tales from bricklow
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What is the point of this item?
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>>585357535
accessibility item for paint huffing vypers
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>>585357497
Brick players can't aim, charater with slight movement breaks their minds
Danny is bad at top level and alresdy incredibly medicore in the mid ranks
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>>585356494
not sure what i'm looking at, an upwards trending graph?
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>>585357535
Make Vyper a viable character for non trackball users
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>>585357535
you dont have to aim for 5 seconds
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Harrow NEEDS her healing to be gutted to be on par with the rest of the support characters, at the very least get rid of the charges. there's a reason every other support character including rem has very limited and non spammable healing potential while this bitch can refill someone's health bar from 1 to 100 3 times in 6 seconds not counting for ricochet potential.

I don't know why they decided to throw flexible support concept they had for all supports up until now in the bin and added this overwatch mercy ass backline healslut who can just stay far away from fights and beam heal retarded amounts.
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>>585357535
Meme harrow build
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>All the new character are insta pick or bans in tournaments except Danny but he's supposed to be op
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>>585357046
>deadlock has consistently been getting new peak CCU with each new character for City Never Sleeps
>Violet releases, new peak
>character is so dogshit people get doompilled and leave
>for next character, we don't get a new peak CCU
looks like Violet indeed tanked the game.
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can you lifesteal off of RK's scrap grenade somehow?
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>Have decent aim, got a good rank in CS
>Used to playing with 400 dpi
>Basically impossible to do that in this game
>Aim becomes dogshit
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>>585357781
>Healbane? Ignored.
>Toxic Bullets? Slighted.
>Spirt Burn? In the bin.
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>>585357864
Yes some people are good vs uncoordinated teams and other are bad into coordinated teams. You can have Wisp or Chen be 40% winrate in pubs in Dota but 80%+ Pick or Ban in a Dota tournament. Danny doesn't work when everyone can understand how to fuck him over.
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NONE OF THE NEW CHARACTERS ARE FUN TO PLAY AGAINST THEY ARE ALL MEGA HITLERS
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>>585358004
you can set separate sens for mouse2 aiming, brother
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>>585358063
I like hooking Harrow in lane
t. BebopKING
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>>585357864
I'm fully convinced that it's just because of aimlet shitters that we're plagued with, I've never had a problem with Danny, he's made of paper
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>>585354984
>>585354995
>>585355107
>>585355667
I deleted the ShaderCache and grabbed Optimizationlock from Gamebanana and I think that fixed it, didn't stutter a single time I think.
Unrelated, I know it's only Medium Bots, but it's my first time playing Celeste and she feels like she takes no skill.
I like her.
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>>585358063
It's only Rat King and a Harrow with a brain, thankfully no one plays Solomon
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>>585357994
Yes. And Fixation apparently, which seems odd but w/e.
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>>585357535
1,6k for not having to bother aiming for 5 seconds
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>>585358314
Celeste is very strong but a lot of her strength lies in her extremely overpowered low-grav movement passive that enables some insane movement. She can work if you're a troglodyte and just run at people like I do but you won't be playing the hero at her fullest potential.
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>>585345102
4/10.
Not that optimistic for the main mode but they confirmed work on alternative content that may be more enjoyable
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>>585358394
does mystic reverb work?
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>>585357193
Never went into 6v6 myself but played with a ton of comp players. Regular Rocket Jumping IS easy and IS braindead, but still requires more braincells than whatever the fuck Danny is now (and rocket jumping is simply more fun). Skilled rocket jumping is artful and combinations like the market gardener rewarded skill while not feeling oppressive and still costing the soldier significant portions of his life and/or the loss of his shotgun (using gunboats) but in deadlock Danny has easy market Gardner on 2 and 4, longer range options via 1 and sharpshooter and close range shotgun/flamethrower without any real health cost for reckless flying.

There is a reason Soldier was never given a jet pack in tf2. Ster said he was worried that the “rocket jumping character” being tied to a jet pack would just make him an overly annoying jet pack character like overwatch-pharah instead of a rocket jumping character like soldier- and he’s correct.
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>only one (You)
bad thread :(
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>>585345102
7.7/10
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What is this games equivalent of battlefury to enable flash farm, is it tesla? Split shot is too weak right?
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>>585358063
None of them are worse that wraith or shiv
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>>585358776
For anyone with a decent gun its Tesla for sure but honestly the average character scales well enough and with no mana you can kinda clear reasonably quick on anyone. Just not super Tesla fast like Wraith, Seven etc
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>>585357497
>character is not fun to play against
>it’s okay because larping professionals and tryhards don’t pick him
Esports worshippers ruin every game they flock to
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tough pill to swallow but valve should balance around the median playerbase and not just their pro discord tournaments and twitch streamers
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>>585356954
Genuinely what were they thinking?
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>>585358628
Honestly I found that just holding down fire and spamming her AOE circle seems to work just fine.
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>>585359068
I mean what would that even look like? As it stands now shit being abused by pros (Celeste, Radient Regen, all the new characters) is getting abused at every rank
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>>585358634
I can't find a consistent source on if the imbued ability gets lifesteal, or spirit lifesteal. The wiki references both in the updates, but the item itself just says "lifesteal" so idk. The extra reverb damage is spirit damage though, so I'm inclined to say that it does not affect abilities that do weapon damage.
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>>585359106
That's because stuns don't cancel his 2 overheat dive channel.
Simple fix: if Danny gets stunned during his 2, he explodes dealing damage to himself and his surrounding and it begins the cooldown of his engine.
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im a gay homosexual
what is the hero for me
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whatever is in the next update no matter what it has to have remodels for bebop gt and yamato
these neon prime holdouts must go
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>>585358776
With everyone having access to heavy melee to clear camps there isn't really a bfury equivalent. Tesla Bullets is your Maelstrom, but with how Spirit works in Deadlock Tesla doesn't fulfil the same niche as Mael.
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>>585358980
its okay because hes fun to play, sorry you're a no fun no life poopsock whos only joy in life is crawling the ranked ladder lmao
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>>585359334
they already said remodels are going to be the last thing they're doing shaping up to a real release, so I wouldn't expect them soon
maybe the end of next year
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I just played with a Danny player who was playing his very first game on that account. He did surprisingly well for his first game! He got MVP and 29 kills on his first game he ever played. Gotta love when the noobs get one back at the veterans, eh? Some people just learn so fast.
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>>585359301
Abrams, Drifter, Doorman or Lash
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>pick graves
>go with a bog standard heroic aura spirit skull brrrrr build
>spam my tombstone ultimate on cooldown and infest a lane with zombies
>/dlg/ says this is bad and gives the enemy team free money
>end up with 40k more souls than the enemy by the end of the game
>also end up with the most player damage and obj damage

soooo errrrmmmmmm? ascendant 4 btw
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>>585359792
You are not making danny complainers look good
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>>585359792
I mean that judt means your rank is dogshit and nobody can aim in the lobby. I have no idea what point you think you're making
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>>585359905
me when i have no friends to share my achievements with
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>>585359905
>play the highest wr most OP busted braindead nigger character
>win games
Wow dude???
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>>585356015
notice how after we went from 16 slots to 12 it took almost no time for everyone to start disregarding any semblance of balanced builds to just stacking purples
it's so funny that valve already had a good system in place and decided to change it for no reason, and it will be extra funny when the item patch comes and it's just some reshuffling of numbers rather than going back to a system that made sense
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>>585359905
Even "pro" scrims are starting to run Graves btw. Nonzero chance she'll be on nightshift at this rate
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>>585358063
I'm already tired of Rat King's grenade, shield and ult. Of Danny's 2. Of Violet's fast stun with 25m range that hits you very often even after breaking line of sight, freezing waves with 1 and ult. Baba's spirit steal and threadsap pull. Harrow's healing and ultimate. Laning against a good Solomon is miserable, his rooks are miserable and his ult is another visual clutter aoe stun.
I'm annoyed that it's going to take them months to patch them.
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>>585359301
>gay homosexual
what are some gay straights
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Start digging!
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>>585360018
She will get nerfed quicker than Violet at this rate.
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>>585359957
>I have no idea what point you think you're making
I'm implying he was a smurf, anon. He had no games played on his account.
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People on reddit were calling this "hetslop"
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>>585360019
why does knight movement only use 2 to move again when he uses it on himself and not for allies as well
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>>585359613
They said they were holding off on them before and now theyre going to work on a few along side content updates.
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>>585360112
truth speakers know its rare hetgem
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>>585357535
To tactically tank the lobby's fps in team fights with Calico
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>>585360018
>>585360076
she has literally only gotten nerfs since the release
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I really don't understand how some people can't stop dying for a second and just do fuck all the whole game especially on piss easy characters. It happens in such a short time they already snowballed the enemy I can't touch them while now being down a person on my team.
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>>585360112
For shame someone is posted on reddit that isn't two women kissing... A true ally only cranks his hog to yuri
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>>585360037
victor, vyper
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>>585359905
i feel like this is just an excuse to post a very erotic picture
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>>585360019
i share your grievances and im lowkey tempted to just stop playing the game. theres not a single match where there arent new characters that just make their team snowball hard as fuck if the player has above one braincell. its agony.
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>>585358980
i have never watched an esports tournament in my life and have never played deadlock professionally, danny is just apollo in you can turn his character off with slowing hex and lategame gets melted by m1s who know how to aim
t. phantom
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>>585360219
Lmao that fucking build. And tbf, if you are playing in bricklo/standard Mina is a feeder's character. They are probably playing her like fucking rat king.
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>>585360004

I'm sorry but 16 item slots were dogshit
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>>585359905
>/dlg/ says this is bad
We call those "people" retards, everyone that plays the game or isn't a Graves downplayer knows she's insanely strong
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why shouldn't i autobuy these three items at the beginning every single match?
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I got banned for posting a crop of a nude venator image a few days ago. I've since reformed and I'd like to let everyone here know that due to the ban I've stopped play venator and instead picked up paradox.
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Yuri is boring
Lesbian porn is boring
If theirs no threat of a sudden child being made and a family being created, theirs no substance
Two girls fingering each other is childish
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All fliers need to be mediocre otherwise the game is objectively unfun to play
Can't wait for the danny one tricks in a few months that make the hero look cancer broken but because its been like barely a week or two it means the hero is weak!!!
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>>585360435
You only need 2 at most unless you're going into healing booster and cultist
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>>585360452
Ok... but why aren't you posting cropped Paradox porn if you are a true main of her?
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>>585360452
>not just evading
?
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>>585360435

Resto shot is gun dependent. First 800 investment is much higher value than the next 800, so ypu aren't getting your spirit spike. Monster Rounds and Close Quarter's deal about the same damage to neutrals. Extra Regen has weak build paths if can't make use of Healing Booster.
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>hear a bong speak his vile ebonics tier babble
>insta mute
Maybe 5% of bongs are worth not muting, bongs are both really bad at games and they talk way too much and try to be funny which falls flat because all their jokes are safeedge shit because otherwise they get thrown in actual prison lmao
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>>585360112
Just out of interest I went and checked, and under the post with this fanart I ctrl+F'd ZERO hits for "hetslop" and basically universal overwhelming praise for how well it works (a couple people called it "hetgem"even)
What are you even getting mad at
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>>585360452
this is why you post apollo
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>>585360552
I played 6s roamer than I played pretty much only pharoh
I just like rocket launchers, nothing is more satisfying
I remember all those "Pharaoh gets hard counter by gun charaterd blah blah blah" like thats not half of the dps in that game.
You make do, and you adapt. You get good enough at dipping and diving in the air and you stop even caring if they have a mcreedy mostly because they always had one.
You won't stop me on danny
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so ur telling me if i land the miraculous hook into kill on a deadman danny he'll just explode on me and my entire team and deal like hella spirit damage for free?
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>>585354184
First and foremost they need to fix the lying ass area of effect indicator on Harrow ult.

>just play outside the range
>just get behind her
>should be easy to keep track of it because of AoE indicator
>hey Drifter should be good at that, too, hit her with stalker's mark and TP behind her
>oops it's actually extended like 6-8 meters around what's visible, including behind her
>instantly feared
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>>585360781
some of them i assume are good people
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I need a third character to play alongside Venator and Rat King.
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>>585360983
let's see you're a gay aids faggot furry go play doorman
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>>585360983
Wraith you brain damaged m1nigger
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>finally nude wraith mod came out
holy shit, she is in every lobby and it happened just now
now what female characters are left without gooner cheats, just yamato? Not counting baba for obvious reasons
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>>585360913
it might be an extra range issue, I've see the same problems with things like Graves root and Paige dragon burn aoe, where the animation is in one place but the extended range goes way beyond
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>>585360506
Yup.
You have to be a low T cuck to not understand this.
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>>585361101
See also Solomon tiles reaching 10 feet above their visual indicator
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>>585361075
Rat KANG is a W+M1gger though
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>>585361064
>>585361075
I'm straight but the only hot girls in this game are Paige and I guess Mina, kind of, in a "I want to chokefuck this stupid whore" way. I'm too shit for Doorman and Wraith wasn't fun at all.
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It's painful but I'm gonna say it.

Harrow isn't fun to play in bricklow.
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>>585361101
i love jumping over a graves root and then still being caught by it its so epic
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>>585361301
u autowin every objective with her ult WHAT DO U MEANNNN
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>>585361104
Yuri with the cheetah lady
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>>585361434
I didn't say she's bad, I said she's not fun to play.
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>>585361104
>sexy cheetah
>let me ruin it by drawing an insipid whore below them
yuck
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Honestly the character designs for this game aren't even "that" great.
In fact I would say as a whole they're mostly mediocre, like half of the roster are straight up unfinished and only a handful have interesting concepts and visual designs, the rest are just regular dudes with a gun and some kind of occult accessory.
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how much of a soul lead should i get before pushing
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>>585360356
Dave strider is apollos mother?
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>>585361101
>>585361313
Graves root needs to suffer like Lash 1 did during the last map update:

>reduce hitbox Z axis value to like, 0.5m
>now if the line is drawn over something as simple as a curb detail that heroes just naturally walk over, it just doesn't exist past that point
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FACT:
The only reason baba is (still) busted as shit is because only like 5 characters in this game do gun damage. If there were more viable M1 character's she'd be balanced but as it stands your options are Venator, Haze, and Vyper (lol)
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>>585361646
its really not that simple. some characters dont even need souls leads to push
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>>585361646
Nonsensical question
You always push between and then farm the dumb prophunt shit when it's too dangerous to push
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when are they gonna nerf boxes? why the fuck should someone be allowed to leave lane to play crash bandicoot and be able to keep up in souls while their lane partner gets double souls?
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>>585361745
thats middle nursefather outis............
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>>585361646
Always be pushing in this game retard kun. Not necessarily towers if it isn't safe but you should always be pushing.
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>>585361778
she has already had 2 of her skills deleted, what do you guys even want her to do
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>>585361967
Make gun builds viable on her again
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does mina fall off hard lategame
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>>585361886
why are you so hostile to an innocent question
is this what mobas do to a man
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>Graves sissies STILL downplaying in October 2026
45% pickrate and 57% winrate
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>>585362060
kinda yeah
her single target burst remains good with the ult though
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>>585362060
Yerp. She is unironically the hallmark of balance in this game.
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>>585354184
>>585354426
>>585354632
>>585360913
>>585361101
Harrows ult just needs to be changed so you only get feared if you look at the bag
You can fight under her, attack her from the sides, whatever, maybe escalating spirit damage over time if you're in close range but a 180 degree fear is just too stupid and ridiculous.
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Why is this game so woke and gay? Back in my day this would be seen as banter the boys would have in a CoD lobby. How do we fix this issue, DLG?
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>>585362326
>Seek employment
based oldGOD
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>>585355873
Why isn't pure damage on this list
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>>585362326
I love how there is nothing that'll appeal these fuckers. ABG is one of the few niggas actually good at this game and they want him drawn and quartered.
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>>585362391
kino
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Free speech when?!?!?
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>>585362461
Isnt it an incredibly rare damage type
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>>585362486
more like when are you gonna fuck off
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>>585362527
Venator has it but for some reason it's counted as either gun or spirit there
Why
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>>585362585
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/544058150/ I'm from America though.
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>>585362290
would rather her ult get completely replaced
it's overpowered and hard to balance, but also it locks her out of doing anything else in team fights which is boring
it also steps on Seven's ult by being his ult but better
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>>585362667
no...no you aren't you were begging for a vpn that worked on 4chan the other day just go away is this a humiliation fetish for you? to jerk your 1 inch wee wee to?
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>>585360452
this is why you post graves
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>>585362472
At some point you gotta realize that it's about actually the moral outrage it's about making everyone else as miserable as them with their axe wounds.
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>>585354184
It took them almost 10 days to """patch""" Baba
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>>585362702
I think it'd be coolest if she could still run around and use her gun (but maybe not other abilities) while she's got the bag open so you can fight her but sort of have to look away or just attack her from the back or something like that. Probably too hard for Valve TRANNIES to code.
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>>585360853
I remember when people were using these same fucking arguments defending tf2 minisentries
>just adapt bro!
>it doesn’t matter it’s fucking miserable to play against! Just adapt
>it doesn’t matter there is not real functional way to counter pick a Danny at the moment so you may end up with 5 close range heroes, just adapt!
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>>585362729
I like how he could be posting this bait on twitter for free and instead chooses to come to us. Come home Indian man, Elon has made a home for you.
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>>585362729
>begging for vpn
I asked what VPN works because I do not use one I also posted my hand flipping you off for being a retarded nigger jeet fuck off back to the slums of mumbai, Rakesh.
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>>585362729
>>585362667
>>585362585
>>585362486
>>585362326
All of these posts are the same desperate attention seeking Indian samefagging btw
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>>585362391
where's harrow bobs
>>585362472
no one cares about gameplay bro
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>>585362895
*Posting this bait on twitter for CASH and instead posts for it here for FREE
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how it feels like to play billy and lane against dead man danny
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>>585362970
>>585362895
>t.
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decay + cursed relic is bait on harrow, blood tribute + berserker is also bait on harrow, the true meta is focusing on healing and ricochet to spread toxic bullets/inhibitor/silencer/siphon bullets and until they hotfix it, quicksilver reload/mercurial magnum allows for some bullshit with infinite healing
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>>585362870
not interested in an even stronger version of her ult getting released
they can't change it right now aside for weakening what it does and removing the insane damage invuln she gets
so just replace it with something else
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>>585362870
I'd rather her throw the bag, the bag is stationary and does the effect, while she can play normally. Maybe lose the benefits of the leeches while the bag is away
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>>585363030
>Have 200+ games on billy
>Haven't played him awhile
>Que him up in ranked innocently
>Lane against Danny and GT
That's enough Billy for this patch
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Notice how all the troons start sperging out the moment you don't want this game to turn into wokeslop??
>>585362970
>>585362953
>>585362729
>>585362585
Really makes you think.
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i feel liike harrows ult can easily be fixed by just shrinking her cone
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>>585362893
You gotta just adapt uniornically tho. hardcounters only exist in rts
Every moron ever in overwatch saw i picked Pharaoh and went hurr durr i play solder 76 or mccready me smart
Like hes not going to be the 300000000 hitscan fag that im going to rape
Im sure danny people will say buy this item to counter because we cant hero swap in game, but I will adapt
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>>585363134
>Focusing on healing and ricochet to spread toxic bullets/inhibitor/silencer/siphon bullets and until they hotfix it
Nigga this is the Mirage build, I swear to god if this shit gets nerfed it's like the one thing he fucking has at this point.
Well that and mystic regen but I know in my heart that shit is going to get shot out back by the end of the month at this rate
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>>585362702
I don't want it removed, out of all the "aoe slop" ults it's the most interesting and provides a twist on the strong defensive teamfight ults we've had in the game for a while, without just being a "leave or suffer the consequences with no counterplay" ults like Violet, Rat King, and Solomon.

She's a largely stationary target, not CC immune, the area of effect *is* large but if you play by her rules then you are not stuck immediately dying to it, the only problematic part is the damage invulnerability which frankly could just be removed as she can sort of fake the same effect with her 2 to ensure she gets partial value out of the ult. It doesn't feel any more offensive than Seven ult, if you do that (and fix the issues with hitbox visibility.)
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>>585363287
Bro just go to twitter, you can actually get PAID to fight the culture war there. You might be able to get enough Izzat to come to America if you do that!
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>>585362326
I don't know but I'm tired of this fucking shit and moralfagging from some of the most disgusting and abhorrent people on the planet
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At what rank do builds actually begin to matter
I mean for example, when does bomb geist fall off? I see bad players fall for bombs in low rank, or fail to buy dispel or whatever other counter they can for bomb bebop too
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how do you fix Radiant Regen without killing spirit heroes?
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>>585363549
>without killing spirit heroes?
that is the whole point THOUGH
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Is there any reason not to take healbane on every character than does any decent spirit damage?
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>>585363686
>kills half the roster
good job man
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>>585363549
It'll take a lot more then removing Radiant Regen to kill the Spirit meta.
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>>585363521
But I am already in America, Shitpak.
>>585363540
The only way to fix it is to bully the troons out. When I was in highschool there was not even any faggots. Why? Because bullying works.
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>>585363549
#notall spirit heroes use it just a select few and i would make it t4
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>>585363384
well it was also the gun graves build as well but the concept of spreading aids with ricochet isn't particularly new it's just that harrow might as well do it since she really doesn't do that much damage all things considering
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>>585363317
>game becomes miserable to play due to addition of flyers
>valve is notoriously bad at balancing so it will amplify the issue in the future
Just adapt bro. It's like 5th hero shooter that will have flyer issue, sure you are used to it bro.
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>>585363769
Hellbane is only good in the laning phase, it gets scaled out of relevance by midgame (by design)
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>>585363847
I think deadlock has 30 bigger issues than Danny but go off brick king
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what if slowing hex just straight up disabled the flying passive instead of just disabling his 2
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>>585363863
Shrink ray coming to standard games with item update confirmed
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>>585363847
Just make knock down 1600 and phantom strike 3200 that's the only way we stop fly niggers either that or just delete them.
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>>585363549
getting rid of RR would instantly make yamato like c tier but everyone else will be fine
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>>585363983
I don't believe that I have ever said it does not have 30 other possibly bigger issues. But adding 31st one is certainly not going to help in the long run.
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>>585359964
Everyone is friends on 4chan, don't be a nigger
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>>585364137
Shiv and probably Celeste would take big hits too
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>>585364137
Why is that a bad thing?
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>>585364076
paradox removes danny from the game just play her if you hate him so much
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>>585360112
My love has got no movespeed, he's got his strong beliefs
My love has got no scaling, he's got his strong beliefs
My love has got no pickrate, he's got his strong beliefs
My love has got no winrate, he's got his strong beliefs


Want more and more, people just want more and more
Freedom and love, what he's looking for
Want more and more, people just want more and more
Freedom and love, what he's looking for


Freed from desire, mind and senses purified
Freed from desire, mind and senses purified
Freed from desire, mind and senses purified
Freed from desire
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>>585364167
Skill issue
Im going to rape you little bro
You struggled with minisentries a cimplete dogshit tool you only used if engi was completely useless on attack otherwise ffs
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>>585363847
This is a shooter game the only solution is to make every flier have like half their normal HP and make guns do more damage or give them -50% bullet resistance and move speed while airborne or something, the implied counterplay is to shoot them because they have no cover in the air, but every one of them has all the ground mobility AND can fly. Either that or a homing bullets vs fliers upgrade you can buy for cheap because there is no other solution.
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>hit a clip
oh yeah, that's going on the 'tubes
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>>585364223
>just play that one hero you don't want to play to not suffer against Danny
Easy solution really, thanks.
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>>585364451
or buy one of the counter items or play Bebop to do the same or play Vindicta and anime fight him in the sky
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>>585364194
They'll be fine, especially fucking Celeste. That bitch has like 100 things going for her. Unless they also dumped her down to 2 base stam along with a RR nerf she's still going to be a top 3 character
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>mokrill gets superior cooldown
>he literally only has a second of downtime on his burrow
Who thought that was a good idea?
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I still think we need a Hero who's a Pulp Novel cover character come to life.
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>people struggling with statistically one of the weakest heros and the only nu one not terrozing high ranks
Hahaha haha this general is bad
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>>585364451
Seriously, I play victor and between Danny and Baba its aids. I already have to go gun on Victor cuz of Baba but then Danny just cheeses cuz he fly.
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>>585364609
paige is gonna freak
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>>585364631
he's a massive pub stomper
it's just graves discourse again
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>>585363924
Doesn't self healing only get better as the game goes on? 35% is a pretty big hit, especially for aoe characters who can debuff the whole enemy team.
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>>585364557
Yeah would be great if anvil and Phantom strike worked on Danny. Any other great tips you got anon? >>585359106
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Paige and Violet are certified monsterfuckers
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should i learn mina or drifter
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>>585364557
I don't play bebop or nigdicta though.
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Get em mo
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Danny and Rat King are both menages in the laning stage and the two of them are also not the greatest in the competitive scene. Rat king at least has a great ult.
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>>585364713
>why didn't my CC work on this guy that has the CC immune item
good job
buy another or tell your team to help
>>585364763
buy an item
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>>585364690
Nah Graves is easy to play around. Fliers require you to spend 6400+ souls to counter them just because of their kit which they get for free. That's the issue.
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You people wouldn't last 5 minutes in the tunnels
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jesus christ how horrifying
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>>585364741
dogfuckers too don't forget
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>>585364884
>buy item
>counter spell
Brilliant
>inb4 buy phantom strike
>they buy indom
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>>585364885
He's ass and valve balances for the top end so you better learn how to play against him before he gets buffed again
People bitch about everything I got ditched for using the epg in titan fall by fucking car players lmao
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>>585361780
I build gun spike on every character. I use my gun on every character, and it's always 10-20% of my damage dealt, so why wouldn't I put a measly 4800 souls into it? You have no excuse for not shooting Baba with all 6 heroes on your team.
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>>585365039
yeah that's how it works, but there are only so many of those items he can buy
and if he's buying those he isn't buying damage
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>>585357535
Calico gun build.
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>>585364715
I hope the pussy Yoshi is getting from the intern writer for putting her self insert in the game is top tier at least
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>>585364884
>it's fine if hero requires your team to buy 12.8k souls worth of items, it's called adapting
Fliers have been issue in hero shooters longer than you have been alive. I understand you defending your new favorite toy.
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I feel schizophrenic: was there or was there not talk about tier 4 skills for like ults or some shit at some point a few months ago? Did they ever talk about doing more of that or is it just a canned idea?
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>>585365039
>inb4 buy phantom strike
>they buy indom
good thing phantom strike does nothing of the sort
do you even play this game
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>>585365047
He's barely been out for a week. Give it some time before people realize how much damage his kit does.
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imagine the cookie...
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>>585345206
I think Venator and Silver is actually a cool concept
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>>585365190
Okay but I am pos1 and supposed to build damage and there are other people I have to counter too. Why should I have to spend 10k+ souls on a single flying nigger for bullshit he gets in kit for free?
>>585365302
I don't care fuck flying niggers get rid of them from the game along with parry and spiritslop.
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>>585357535
I know it says weapon or whatever but does this work with certain projectiles like Yamato alt fire, Danny, or ven’s ult?
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>>585346452
You forgot to add Apollo
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>>585365492
I don't remember how it interacts with Yama ult, but Danny gets the spread on his fully charged projectiles and Venator specifically was changed a month ago so that split shot (and ricochet) affect his ult.
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just realised Celeste sounds similar to Joanna newsome

https://youtu.be/47yuiPK01kg
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>>585365245
they're much easier to deal with in this game and it's why his win rate in high ranks isn't high and why he wasn't picked in Night Shift
>>585365464
you have a team that can also buy things, though I will say that I still buy KD occasionally when I'm playing Venator
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>>585365302
I'd say a majority of /dlg/ posters do not play this game.
>>585365464
>I don't care
I accept your concession on his behalf.
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Sometimes you just got to give up the first tower to rotate
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>have better team fights
>there's always 2 or 3 dead or farming jg so you never win the only fucking objetive this game has
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>>585360983
Billy
Drifter
Silver once they buff her
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>>585365612
>majority of /dlg/ posters do not play this game.
True, I remember some retard trying to say Sinclair didn't steal ults on a shorter CD and tried claiming it was a flat CD from stealing the same ult again.
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>>585365612
>people don't play game cuz of unfun mechanics
What if we get rid of the shit mechanics and make it fun?
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>>585365676
People genuinely can't look at the minimap or figure out when they are too deep.
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>>585365797
2 3
3 3 8
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>>585365719
>once they buff her
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Billy is legitimately the worse tank in the game.
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>>585365612
>I accept your concession on his behalf.
very cucked post genuinely cringed
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>>585365897
Billy is the best tank because I want to fuck him.
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Silver is too hot and pretty to be so shit
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>>585363792
>im already in america
>there was not even any faggots
nice try
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Once they rework jungle into being a actual dedicated role drifter is going to a rape monster
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>viper hero
>sounds like a disney human
why do all the animal characters sound like pixar disney slop?
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>>585365676
my favorite is
>one pick character gets ahead in lane
>lives on the other side of the map and keeps fighting the entire game and drags my team into bad fights over nothing repeatedly
>we fall behind and lose because of these shit fights
>flames the team for losing
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>>585352304
>jetpack a passive upgrade

keeps his laning in check and his dive/lash ground pound like is built around it.

>valve wouldn't make a flying flamethrower hero

???

>why does it lower bullet res

danny is a top-down hybrid hero
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this batch had 10/10 art direction but like 5/10 game play direction, hoping they patch around them a bit more but half of the new heroes are whatever and the other half are ult bots
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>>585352956
Even if he's F tier I'm going to kidnap you and make you shit your pants in rage, fag boy
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>>585365532
>Fanartists add both personality headcannons AND an ass to Violet
Valve should have taken notes... They could have made her one of the most beloved characters in the game had they done either of these things.
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Why does mokrill have multiple abilities that give him free stats and a disarming hex as a basic ability.
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>>585366378
Why does S++++ilver get fucking PHANTOM STRIKE as a base ability?
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>>585353871
Venator, Silver, Gray Talon, Warden, The Lash, Haze, Seven, Abrams (protagonist buff)
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>>585366118
I mean his entire kit is built around explosives
Why does he have a random push back flamethrower in it?
Because they had no other idea and are against passive abilties now for some reason
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>>585365991
>zoomer cannot even comprehend how good life was even a decade ago.
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>>585362893
if you struggle on fucking soldier against minisentries you unironically need to git gud
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>>585366479
this, nerf Silver op piece of shit character
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>>585366483
>Venator
Maybe
>Silver
Would job, potential woman
>Grey Talon
Would job, implied he could have won in his prime
>Warden
Yes
>The Lash
Would Job
>Haze
Would Job
>Seven
Only if it was to set him up as a bigger villain IE Drifter was jobbing to him
>Abrams (protag buff)
Yes

I guess I should spoiler this post, since it's season 1 spoilers for the adaptation
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>>585363792
>>585366513
>When I was in highschool
>a decade ago
one of the most pathetic posts i've ever read
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>>585355775
I don't really play him much but he could really use a change to his shit traps
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>>585366710
Tomorrow you will wake up and it will be you making that post sorry to say
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>>585360356
please stop playing

>>585366509
because spraying napalm on a guy with the jetpack, rocket salvos, a suicide dive, and a suplex is fun? I don't know what to tell you, you lack the creative soul required to come up with fun designs
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>>585366513
i went through high school 2 decades ago, you need better ammo pajeet ranjeesh
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>>585357535
They should undo the fucking cooldown nerf so I can play gun paige again, shit was so fun. Extremely janky and caves to any sort of pressure but at the same time you had possibly the highest dps in the game if you factor in her 100% splash damage. Like if you got the right angle you could just unload 11 barrels of hell onto the enemy team and wipe them off the face of the earth in 3 seconds. It wasn't a good build and nobody else used the item successfully so I don't know why they had to rape the cooldown on it.
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>>585345206
Hearing people talk about ships is just extremely boring and it just feels like they want to be different most of the time
>"Imagine Victor and Lady Geist's son. Think about it."
Like, no? Fuck off
>*thinking very hard*
>"Yep, this new female character will pair really well with Celeste or Silver, maybe Paige if I'm feeling adventurous. I'm a genius!"
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>>585366815
just revert the fucking weird change made where they break on aoe abilities hitting them
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>>585364885
>graves is easy to play around

I'm going to self-report as a shitter but mostly out of exasperation of seeing this bitch on the other team in every. fucking. game.

What is the play around? I've heard the most common line:

>just light melee the skulls!

This is an oversimplification that ignores that the seeking on the skulls often causes them to stagger hits, so if you have like 5 or 6 skulls, one LM only clears maybe half of them, or leaves 2 trailing, either way you are generally dealing with bowling pin split of at least 2 heads who are going to possibly be out of sync and need an additional 2 melees to clear. This entire time your DPS is suffering because you are not shooting back at Graves who is happily draining your weapon damage to make things even worse for you (and probably has like 3 more jar charges anyways). You can also shoot them but some heroes are just generally ass at this, and the things are immune to ability damage so those heroes basically have to do the above.

Accompanying the above she has a lot of tools to make 1v1s extremely tough: gotta make sure not to be put in a spot where the root is an easy drop behind you, need to have good enough M1 to clear zombies, need to have a solution for her just autoclicking you the entire time. It doesn't make any sense for a hero who is plainly meant to be a macro hero and should have people helping her, but just bullies heroes in side lanes anyways. Even if you are consistent about jumping her 2v1, she makes enough of a mess of lanes that it buys time for counter gank that gets her team two or more kills to her one, or slows your response down to shit happening elsewhere in the map.
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>>585367001
>>585366710
I told you harijan filth I'm an American
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>>585367001
What ammo, mouth breathing nigger? We called everyone in my school faggots and guess what? There was zero in my graduating class. Bullying works maybe if it was normalized for (you), you wouldn't on Discord dilating your axe wound with other mentally ill men.
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>>585367041
No they shouldn't. Retarded offmeta niggers like you are why it got nerfed. Gun Paige, Yamato, Visc, Calico, all the characters that have huge aoe hits or splash damage were sucking the fun out of the game for the other 11 people by feeding like retards.
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>>585362486
Now, apparently, since it's way past your ban date
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>>585345206
Paige x Enthusiastic Black Labrador
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>>585367319
>You shouldn't be allowed to play a fun build for pubs where you do decently
League of legends was a mistake.
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>buy stamina mastery as graves
>just keep jumping around with autoaim while the shitter m1 can't aim for shit
feels good
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>>585367252
instantly going to the 'you're a zoomer' pejorative when in reality you're low iq, low rank and dribbling on your keyboard lashing out for whatever retarded reason, seek help
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>>585366378
Mo is honest and he keeps m1keys in line
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>>585366378
Funny
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I'm bad
If I get 50k healing with Ivy am I actually helping my team and saving people or is this just stat padding... Everyone else only gets like 10k healing...
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>>585367620
a lot of Ivy's healing is padding
not sure if there is a way to filter out self-healing
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How do they realistically have AM be as cool as HK? Better theme better base better voice
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>>585366378
Wow, a 3200 item for free....
Is apollos counterspell+phantom+knckdown worth 12k souls then?
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>>585367485
No, you shouldn't, you're absolutely correct league was a mistake because it encourages stupid niggers like you to be singleminded and exclusively want to play for yourself rather than your team. Occupying the support character then stealing carry farm to build gun is griefing when you could have just played a pos1 and not been a retarded nigger.
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>>585367553
I mean you have proven multiple posts in a row, multiple threads in a row that you have zero frame of reference to how good things actually were. It's to the point where you unironically defend trannies censoring people for mean words on the internet. If words offend you that much you should take your own advice, nigger faggot.
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you think you can outfight mo?
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>>585366378
>Mo is le bad because he has one of the worst items in the game as an ability
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>>585365262
I think kelvin had some datamined abilities hinting at tier 4 upgrades. My guess is that it's either for the pve update or for the item rework. Hopefully for the latter, they might give you some sort of aghs item where you can pick one t4 upgrade per game.
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you think you can outfuck mo?
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>>585367950
i haven't replied to you a single time about whatever you're screeching about retard, do they not properly teach reading comprehension in sri lanka? is the cow piss causing your eyes to cross and you can't see words properly?
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>>585368130
More cope I see, none this censorship shit will stop people from laughing at you whenever you open your mouth and when you die the skeleton will be identified as male.
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>>585366378
what about fucking violet that gets free stats on her 3????? and has way more cancerous shit than them
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>>585355753
how is that any different from other m1s
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>>585366886
i'm an adult and haven't walked into a high school in years, that is to say i do not play doorman
>>585367224
i can't imagine every american in his 30s is profoundly sad enough to base his world without faggots or whatever on fucking 17 again
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>>585367926
No, you have the league of legends mindset where you're not allowed to use the game mechanics how you want to, the dota mindset is "whatever works". Clearly it worked for my bracket (oracle back in 2025) because I had a slightly above average winrate. I had fun, my team had fun, the enemies had fun, nobody complained except you, one year later. Also we all have 4k hours in dota, you are not bragging.
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>>585345102
Finish The Elders Scrolls 6 you hack.
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>>585368462
eh haze has aimbot and wraith pins people down
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>>585356125
Because his whole thing is just suicide bombing?
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>>585345206
pocket yam
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>>585362326
getting a job would be a start
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REMOVE MOVEMENT
REMOVE PARRIES
BAN "QOL" MODS
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>>585368513
>UHHH IT WORKED IN ORACLE
Everything makes sense now, I accept your concession.
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>>585362326
>DeadlockSilver
Of course a Silver player is a whiny bitch
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>>585368703
sorry dotakek, we won.
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>>585368703
>scrub
>scrub
>yes that one
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How do I play Danny? He seems really overwhelming.
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>>585368726
You have brain problems, I already said it was a pub build. You don't have to nerf shit builds because the meta will do it for you, I know if I played in eternus or even if the build just got popular in oracle people would counter it, so why nerf split shot into irrelevance? It makes no sense, except for the league of legends mindset.
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>>585368902
eat two corndogs every day to start
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>>585368703
>lol, that's the best thing about the game, and about only really unique thing about it
>I want melee to statcheck everyone without having to aim and possibility of counterplay. I also can't bait parry and play mindgames
>I agree
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>>585366023
what kind of fucking disney character is a bpd crackhead serial killer lizard
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>might see some minas for halloween
please i need this
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grey talon feels pretty broken bros... like if the ball gets rolling he has global presence, snipe nuke (bigger than vindicta and venator ults), and crazy movement options.
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>>585368615
baste
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Just got 100 hours in this game, is Geist supposed to be an ultimate pubstomper or do I just keep getting lucky with my games?
I keep building the exact same items in the exact same order and keep winning unless my team feeds off its ass.
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Is there a website where I can check best and worst matchups for each character? I can't find this information on statlocker unless it's tucked away in a remote corner.
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This is 30 minutes in the game I dont get whats going on with me its like im flailing and nothing I can do
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>>585369347
she has the benefit of having a good late game gun, a great aoe spell and a broken ult so yes shes great at pubstomping but high ranks can avoid you, your spells and be harder to hit... so like most heroes she's harder to play the more rank you gain
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>>585369347
The average pubby is too retarded to watch for when ults are up. They WILL run headfirst at you with 100 health just to get soul sucked. They WILL run in straight lines so you can stack blood daggers. They WILL maintain LOS so you can get free health everytime drain is up.
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>>585369204
Grey Talon is very good in the right hands but most people play him like shit. Movement is his primary defense so you actually have to be better than your opponents, even when you're fed.
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>>585345206
Warden x Harrow (Warrow)
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>>585369423
only one with no kills the whole game! im already washed up and I just got into this game
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>>585369603
She can drain me all day. If you know what I mean.
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>>585346321
I like how everyone canonically calls Shiv a good looking guy with great hair but his in game model is a cyberpunk chimp with a flaccid pompadour
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>>585369423
You're obviously playing very cowardly if you only have 3 kill participation and 3 deaths in 30 minutes. You need to limit test. Run at your enemies and die some more. It's the only way you'll learn.
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>>585345206
Lash x Ivy
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feelin good bros
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>>585369603
>The average pubby is too retarded to watch for when ults are up. They WILL run headfirst at you with 100 health just to get soul sucked
That's the thing, I thought her weakness would be getting bombrushed by people while her ult is down, but no: I just throw 1 at my feet, attach a 2 and keep dancing around throwing 3s at them while their healthbar melts. I just did that to a fairly fed Celeste.
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>tfw you get a mirage on your team who only uses traveler to feed the enemy team
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>>585369950
Exactly, he's attractive.
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if i don't get to play harrow, i'm playing graves

if i don't get to play graves, i'm playing haze

deal with it
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Why are the tier 3 camps on the sides of the lanes so tanky? They take forever to take, are they even worth it
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>>585370269
based game enjoyer
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>>585370269
I know, you are in 99% of all matches
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>>585370269
You need a 4th character bubba
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louder melee and auto parry might unironically be QOL when youre playing as billy
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>>585368902
>in lane

Start with skill 1, play like a normal hero and use the marks to poke/clear waves a bit more aggressively. Depending on the lane you will want grit, high velocity, or spirit 800 as first item, with the latter only being for matchups that reward aggression (i.e. they can't just hard CC you in response to jetpack dive). All ability points should be saved for rushing to T2 jetpack, after that I'd grab T1 in 1 and Ult. Once you have jetpack at T2 grab the upgrade to Reactive and abuse the jetpack to just pressure the fuck out of them unless, again, the lane has good CCs to respond to dives, in which case just keep poking from up high with 1 and M1.

>out of lane

Spirit spike is your first goal, raw spirit items and cooldown are good ones to reach it. Get the ult cooldown on T2 and now you are roaming for ganks. Keep that up, get the jetpack (first) and ult maxed. Your main value is confirming kills, use the air to look for weak targets, dive, ult, use flamethrower to bounce out/reset jetpack/confirm kill if they lived through ult, get vertical again and poke until there's a good target to confirm with just jetpack and flamethrower.
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>>585364609
isn't that basically Abrams. I guess he's an our-universe pulp hero. I don't know what an in-universe pulp hero would look like. Maybe you'd have a conan-esque fighting ixians or or maybe some ixian-conan-esque fighting racist mobsters, though that might work better if they were a wiseguy gumshoe.
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>>585370318
Sometimes I take them on McGinnis and Wraith, but most characters can just ignore them. They are also the best targets for Cultist Sacrifice.
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Returning from pre-Graves/Apollo patch
Back then I played a ton of Drifter even though he was shit and the meta was max ult + duration

I understand that ult max was kind of a cope method because the rest of the kit was terrible and now he's ok, but is there a reason no build grabs duration? 11s ult + longer mark and silence is always good no?
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>>585370623
Pulp comes in many genres, not just Noir stories.
HP Lovecraft was a Pulp writer for example.
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>>585370623
He's just a film noir detective, not a pulp hero.
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how do I play Lash?
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>>585370787
show up to objectives and press 4
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>>585370395
its cheats yes
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>>585364609
it is funny that both of these are kinda already in the game
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>>585370318
You need actual jungle clear to take tier 3 camps, IE you are Seven, Wraith or someone like that. In theory you could take them with a friend but that level of coordination is too much for the average MOBAtard
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I just played my 2nd Deadlock game, and the feeling of fucking one single player that is owning (Deadman Danny) by buying Slowing Hex AND Cursed Relic it's unmatchable
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>>585370837
But that does nothing to objectives
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>>585369371
Most of the vibecoded stats on these site fucking suck because they just show overall WR vs given heroes as opposed to actual increase/decrease against expected for a given hero. There was one site that had it and I don't have a fucking clue which one or where
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>>585364609
too based for nuValve/SBI/Blackrock Gaming, sorry
you VILL play the gook self-insert tumblrina and you VILL enjoy it!
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>>585370713
make sure everyone buys dispel magic king get that EE + long duration mark
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>Another game where I kill a shitton of people as Drifter and we still lose
>25k soul advantage for my team btw
I feel like I win way more with other characters because I spent a good chunk of time clearing waves instead of roaming. I don't understand how people play carries and ignore delicious waves full of money coming their way.
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>>585370713
>duration
You need damage to kill people and get stacks, dude. Duration sounds like fucking trash.
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Deep down Valve knows it
Everyone knows it
For Deadlock to be an authentic New York game, it needs ... a jew
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I don't know what Pulp is.
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>Paints you
>Stuns you
>Nukes you
>Brushes away
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>>585371016
https://statlocker.gg/heroes/matchups

Their site is kind of hard to sift through the tabs, but it's on there.
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>>585371530
Baba is already in.

>>585371542
your ass after I'm done with you, gayboy
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>>585371392
Honestly I think on first queue for standard there needs to be a giant fucking pop up and all it says is "WAVE CREEPS A WORTH MORE THAN JUNGLE RETARD". I end up with soul advantage almost every time from just clearing wave and eating the small jungle camps right next to lane because my partner fucks off to the depths of the jungle for less souls and no sinners.
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>>585371530
hasidic jew creature is the next hero added to the cursed apple, he can even enter the vents!
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>lane mate feeds then leaves lane to take all the camps leaving you in the hole then proceeds to roam feeding some more
What do you even do in this situation
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>>585371449
spirit items still give damage, duration gives damage via mark, and at the end of the day 1 3.3k item is not a big deal when it also means people on their team are raped for another 3 seconds each fight
Duration 8 months ago was making people beg for nerfs when he was already the lowest winrate hero which is why I'm trying to figure out things now
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Is this a sign of a really good player or a really bad player?
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>>585370787
>go up
>slam
>die
>repeat
gun Lash got gutted (which is good) and spirit Lash sucks on the new map because no high ground
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>>585371530
baba and graves are in the game already
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>>585371660
>>585371016
Thanks. It's not exactly lane matchups but it's a start.
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>>585371809
>spirit Lash sucks on the new map
we spreading lies now
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>>585371530
your jewish princess graves bro?
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>>585371392
I don't mind because lane janitor is my favorite role to play anyway. Deadlock's macro is too hard for 90% of its players.
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>>585371843
>Graves
>Jewish
just because both her parents are lawyers doesn't automatically mean they are Jewish
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>8 min queue
>enemy has aimbot hacking with absolutely no subtletly
so is the game unplayable now or
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>>585371775
>gets an entire lane's souls to himself
>is in the hole
I'd start by confirming my souls before I bitch at the retard giving me a lane to juice all by myself
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>>585371392
Jannying waves guarantees you at least a 60% WR in standard
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>>585370772
>>585370780
True, my understanding of pulp is pretty weak tbf. The only other one I know is Flash Gordon.
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>>585371960
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>>585371530
Graves, Rat King, Baba and Solomon are right there
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>>585371984
You cant confirm souls 2v1 as Paige
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>>585372150
Rat King is native
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>>585361621
The character design has pivoted to just being a wide range shotgun blast. Instead of having an overall cohesive or interesting designs for the cast, they're trying to focus on making sure every archetype of player has at least one character they resonate really hard with.
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>>585371980
Hackers own this game, they never get punished. People all laughed when 1 person turned into a frog or whatever but it actually never happens.
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>>585372051
>Necromancer
>Jewish
Valve... I...
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>>585372051
>that large nose
I want to see it dripping in hot gooey cream cheese from a bagel.
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>>585372228
>Paige
Thats the sacrifice you make to get retarded good lane clearing and a huge AOE root and free shields and an AOE stun ult
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>>585371673
Jungle camps have soul bounties displayed now, right? So lane creeps should also have them
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>>585372051
You think she'd call me her good goy?
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>>585369987
I just got their voicelines where he's nice to her and she's taken aback
I see the vision
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>>585372471
what? how does that even look like
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ranked better than standard?
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do you play deadlock like reddit does?
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>>585372228
wat
buy high velocity rounds
boom now you can confirm souls
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>>585372626
I think they have some dialog in the cancelle VN too.
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5 kills and 4 assist with haze
shot me in the head
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As an Apollo one trick, here's my suggestion for reworking Riposte
>Get rid of the stun, its unfun and breaks half the time.
>No longer deflects bullet damage, bring back deflecting Walker slams
>Base: Deflect ability damage, gain move speed for 3sec, 1 charge
>T1 Reduce CD
>T2 +1 charge, improved Spirit on successful deflect
>T3 One recast of Flawless Advance on successful deflect
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Im getting no souls each match idk how the fuck I used to get 80k per match wtf
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New legendary drops video dropped, is he spittin'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T93oeFlZo4I
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>>585373371
>apollo main
>remove stun

nice try
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>>585373441
>graves on thumbnail
this is a big day for us!
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>>585373371
i dont think it should stun infernus is 2
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Billy is actually really good, you're just bad unlike me.
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>stomp
>get stomped
That's enough Deadlock for today
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>my steam refuses to connect mid match
>low prio queue because i left
fuck this game
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Even when I play well I'll just assume I got carried anyway for my sanity
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i like to headcanon that as ixians grow older they start looking more like monsters and walking on 4 feet and and stuff
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I have decided I'm going to learn silver
Surely this will go well
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Is it just me or is graves retardedly broken
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I just installed aimbot and it's actually insane how easy it is to cheat
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another miserable day
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I don't understand how people can play ranked like they genuinely have no idea how to play the game. You've had to win 45 matches minimum to play, and 15 wins as your character, you should know by now not to fucking feed
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is wallbreaker victor still a thing?
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Is 42% account win rate unusual? Should I even bother with ranked?
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does anywan wanna play deadwock w me ( im eu )
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>>585373491
You're right
I'm closer to a one-trick
The stun fucking sucks. It literally just exists to stop seven and lash and mcginnis from ego tripping with their ults, a worthy goal, but one I'd sacrifice for an ability that actually works. I'm sick of flying in some random direction, sometimes not stunning, and getting gigaFUCKED by some huge nuke ability because the deflect got triggered by a random bullet.
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>>585374369
in shitlow yea it can work
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>>585370082
faggot
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>>585354782
>>585356009
It's your CPU. Source 2 basically requires the X3D cache of a 7800X3D or better to work decently enough. Zen 6 in Q1 2027 will be practically required for competitive play.
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eu is unplayable thanks to the new MM, LITERALLY only russians
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>>585374351
First moba?
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>>585373807
thats retarded and so are you
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remember
the trench exists outside of dota 2
the trench is eternal
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>highest damage on my team as paige
>2-12 venator dies solo to harrow
>lose
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>>585374351
I'm glad Valve made the barrier of entry pretty tall. Feeding is irrelevant the point is to make sure the players understand the fundamentals of the game (aka whats a guardian, where do buffs spawn, whats urn). But like any other team-based ranked game you can be a drooling sub-human pig and if you spam enough games you'll statistically get through the requirements to play ranked.
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I think I'm doing better
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>>585375546
>that player damage
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I'm sorry, does picking Vyper automatically puts you into retard queue or something?
This is like 3rd time in a row when I pick her and 2 out of 3 walkers are down by 12 minutes and I'm literally the only one doing anything.
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>>585375591
I mean his damage is within the range of the rest of the lobby. 3x the amount of his closest teammate.
>>585375546
Doing good bro. The only flag here is your amount of deaths but if you were just split pushing the entire game I think its fine cause I'm guessing you pulled aggro the entire time.
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>>585375591
it sucks, but at least he has high building damage which is a huge part of how you actually win the game
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>>585374005
Her skulls kinda do obscene damage
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>>585375921
idk what split pushing is, but I was basically hopping between lanes taking out towers that I thought were undefended
my deaths were from the times I thought wrong
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im burnout mobas just not for me
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>bricklos shittalking mikaels for building toxic bullets talon
why are they like this?
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>>585376083
split pushing is just going solo to green, blue, or yellow and just pushing out the wave and trying to get towers while everyone else (teammates and enemy) and jerking off in other lanes. It constantly applies wave pressure that the enemy can't ignore with how strong minions are in this game and it requires them to send atleast 1 person back to clear it but most teams will send 2+ because they panic when they see someone getting objectives solo.
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>>585376423
Its a bad item on him I don't care if he used to be a god
Just buy spirit burn you donkey
Good players can buy stupid dogshit, high elo players aren't genuises and will often run dogshit
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im deadweight
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>team screams at the top of their lungs for anyone someone to split push
>decide to split push once
>entire enemy team dives on me

NEVER DO ANYTHING YOUR RANDOM TEAMMATES TELL YOU TO

NEVER
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>>585376446
yeah that's pretty much what I was doing
wasn't trying to pull aggro or anything like that though I just wanted to kill towers and push waves in peace
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>>585376560
>easiest gun to proc on-hits with
>bad item on him
also he was playing gun talon that game, no point rushing sb
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>>585372760
>source engine invented skin mods
What?
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>graves is jewish
>no khazar milkers
cringe
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>>585376706
???
You only buy toxic bullets on gun heroes who also run spirit so its triple dumb
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>>585376560
not for nothing but you really can't talk shit about these players unless you're at bare minimum eternus. Anything below just makes you look like some bricklo shitter who's convinced the people that play this game for a living are bad and you're some kind of fuckin autistic savant who just so happens to be hardstuck seeker
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>>585376913
>You only buy toxic bullets on gun heroes who also run spirit so its triple dumb
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bullshit comms bans
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>>585376913
talon is a sharpshooter + swift striker hero you're shitlow if you arent buying that toxic is good rn because radiant regen is everywhere and harrow is in every game
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>>585376913
>>585376560
LMAOOOOOOOO THIS NIGGER IS FUCKING SHITLOW AND RETARDED
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>>585377012
>>585377048
I accept your concession seekertard. Stop Fucking. Posting. Already.
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Is the hidden king side for shitters? cause im always losing overhere
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>>585376913
lol wut? toxic bullets isn't even bad on someone like silver
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>>585377091
>>585377091
>>585377091
>>585377091
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>>585377162
HK has a higher winrate than AM, you're just bad
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>>585377157
no argument detected
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>>585374354
dey gonna run dey gonna beg dey gonna scream
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>>585374698
you lied to me man I just killed myself going for shrine before breaking the base turrets and I got FUCKED
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>>585379279
yeah they added backdoor protection to shrines but wallbreaker victor works in the sense that you can still suicide bomb buildings in shitlow without the enemy team realizing you've soloed every walker by yourself and are taking down their base guardians and shrines too while everyone is too distracted by brooling
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>>585371530
Baba is already in the game
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Why do so many people here hate Rem? He seems fun to play.
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>>585378610
eaded to bluu
(T/n: blue is drifters nickname for abrams)
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>>585363804
>>585363384
>>585363134
Harrow's buildup is also really fucking high with Toxic bullets, it's 22% a shot.
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>>585385789
thats low retard thats like 4 seconds of shooting



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