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"Virtual Reality, Real Suffering"
Out of Time Edition

Headset Selection: https://rentry.org/vrgheadsets
Game Recommendations: https://rentry.org/gxrov
VRC Screenshots by World: https://vrg.party/worlds.html
Archive: https://archive.vrg.party/

>Game Resources
Assets: https://vrg.booru.org/
Guides for Avatar and World Dev: https://rentry.org/4tzqs
Assetto Corsa: https://rentry.org/hrq69
VTOL VR: https://rentry.org/5nuk4
Minecraft (Dungeon Crawling): https://crawler.vrg.party
Fallout 4: https://rentry.org/pofw5
Bonelab: https://rentry.org/bonerlabeu

>Regularly Hosted Multiplayer Games
Monday - EU Assetto Corsa: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (every other week)
Monday - NA Quake Co-op: 8PM ET
Tuesday - EU Pavlov: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST
Wednesday - EU VTOL VR: 20:00 UTC (every other week)
Wednesday - NA Assetto Corsa: 8PM ET
Thursday - SEA VRFPS: 8PM JST
Thursday - NA Walkabout Minigolf: 10PM ET
Friday - EU VRFPS: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (Game varies, watch the thread)
Friday - NA Pavlov: 11PM ET (every other week)
Saturday - SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf: 12:00 UTC
Saturday - Pavlov: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST

>Regularly Hosted VRChat Events
https://rentry.org/mxotqvmh
>Current Active VRChat Instances
https://anchor.vrg.social/

New threads: >>>/vg/vrg
Old thread: >>585239908

>Upcoming Events
Halloween Event - October 31
Christmas Party - December 12
FBF Vacation Room Jam Deadline - Feburary 1, 2027
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Will tonight be the night?
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>>585389739
No.
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>>585389739
Yes, tonight I will take your anal virginity
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>>585389739
Yes babygirl, don't worry too much about it
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Stop using game webm for the OP when all the thread content is VRC and social drama. Thank you.
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Gay sex in virtual reality
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>>585390256
ve dont do zat here
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>spent like three close to four fucking hours past "I'm going to bed" time because my autism refused to let me rest until I fix troubleshooting my sword/hilt system
>the animation breaking because of existing animation systems already inherent on my prop which didnt let me record new things for some reason
>finally fuck it and work everything from scratch
>new animations, redo the contact sender and redo everything in the fx layer
>why is it not working
>Why is my gesture not applying correctly to the contact receiver I set up
>after like three hours of headache it finally hit me and I had a revelation that I am the most retarded dumb fuck alive
>>>>>>>>>>I was editing the wrong FX layer for my avatar and was in my hand gesture layer for some retarded reason
Unity is very very very good at making me feel like the most retarded motherfucker alive at times. And I feel even more silly that it took me that long to figure it out. And astronomically silly that I nuked my sleep for this.
Thank you for reading my blog.
Virtual Reality General
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>>585390047
>He doesn't play vr games
Chat, bomb this man.
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>>585390382
The unity meme claims another soul
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fellas
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The /vrg/ soccer/football roster poll is now LIV

Vote on whoever you want to be on the team, top 20 most voted for players will make the cut.
Poll will close in a few days or when votes stop trickling in, and then the results will be announced.
There's also one question at the end about what we should do regarding the Steam Frame player.

https://forms.gle/JhbU86MJxQDsd5a3A
https://forms.gle/JhbU86MJxQDsd5a3A
https://forms.gle/JhbU86MJxQDsd5a3A
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I'm entering the Virtual Reality zone.
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TONIGHT...
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>>585390632
bratty old men
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>>585388256
bring your drunk cats too
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>>585390780
can't wait to see you there anon!
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>>585389739
RAPE RAPE RAPE
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>>585391125
I'm only playing single player stuff right now, but thanks.
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>mfw spot new outfit perfect for my style and slampig milltina
fastest instabuy i've ever done,.. god im so sexy...
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VRChat players, please read.

Just wanted to give you a reminder that if you're a tranny with a passing voice, it's rape if you don't disclose your transness.
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They need to make Forefront more like Wardogs
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>>585391125
>anti-soul fog
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>>585391504
>tranny with a passing voice
So none in vrg?
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>>585391581
Claude McCodin is on the job.
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>>585391581
Thats precisely what I'm saying when I played kuso dogs, but it's still kusoge. Reduce retarded 3 teams, reduce the aids exp grind, and it'd be perfect. It really would be "play like you used to,"
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>>585391056
are the future
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hey to the one other vive wand use on this thread, did steamvr 2.17+ break right click in desktop view for you?
Clicking on the trackpads doesnt work on the desktop view anymore. Found workaround but it sucks because you lose scrolling.
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>>585391116
Please thank our jannies for their service.
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>>585391918
Season 2 grind is much faster than season 1, at least.
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I finally did something else with the vrchat world data I scrape:

https://worldsearch.hiina.space

It's a search engine for vrchat worlds with all the fancy boolean queries and facets and vector databases and shit. You can query by like capacity or download size, plus since since it's also scraped, visits/favorites/updates over time. Works entirely in your browser, so milliseconds per query (and no backend for me to maintain) Data is slightly stale so like the last ~3 days of uploads will be missing. I'll figure out some sort of incremental update system eventually.
>What happened to the google maps for vrchat worlds thing?
Soon(tm). Better search was easier and really the more useful part of the map project anyway even if it's not as novel.
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>>585354950
Cambodians are honorary Aryan
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>>585392432
custom > 0
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>>585392432
Yeah I've got a tip for these two
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>>585392432
I love these avatars so much more than the generic Alice one...
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>>585392512
This is cool
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>>585392512
Woah, based. The community doing VRChat's job for them again.
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>>585389651
what game?
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>>585392853
you are my enemy
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>>585388256
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>>585392975
Titanfall 2 VR mod
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>>585391504
>cares if cock or vag irl during internet mutual masturbation
absolute state
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>>585390643
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>>585393978
It's actually very important because women are generally absolutely awful at such things.
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>>585390643
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>>585394780
lol you actually believe guys who are that scared of being seen as bi care about that?
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>>585388256
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>>585388256
>>585395171
Think they're looking for these
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>>585395351
You know those jam traps that trap and drown insects? They made one for black people
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>>585395171
those are some highly realistic washers and floor tiles, god damn
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I double-clicked on a unitycpackage but it didn't bring up a prompt, so I tried to import it manually and still doesn't even show up, I updated most stuff just to be sure but no dice, what the heck gives
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>>585395351
i like the stuff blowing around
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>>585395909
ai slop world
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>>585395909
Someone should go steal that poor wallflower on the right and bring them into the group...
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>>585396143
A wallflower doesn't have icons, emotes, and props of their own character
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>>585396219
Don't bully the wallflower anon. That poor thing has none of those!
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>>585395909
Imagine all the lost balls that would get dropped.
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>>585395171
that's got to be hell on her knees tbdesu
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There was a quiet person with the "new" status i saw in an instance yesterday, yet they had full body tracking and looked comfortable.
Curious.
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I dont want EU fridays to now be some cringe group+ (SEA) instance with 20 different jannies I dont trust. Or to be forced to move instances every 30 min. This shit is retarded but of course EUs are massive cucks that will just immediately fold and let someone nobody knows from a different timezone hijack the main eu friday hangout. Yeah I don't give a fuck I'll say it.
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>>585398326
Make your own instance
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>>585398326
total sea death
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>>585398326
No one is forcing people to go there, they are doing it because they prefer it to the alternative.

I genuinely don't understand your perspective. Just host the EU instance you want and if people want to be there they will show up.
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>>585397638
Sorry, that was me on my alt
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>>585398326
I'll host an instance in like 20-30 minutes when my stuff charges anon. I dont wanna deal with this cringe cancer circlejerk bullshit either.
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>>585395909
Quality hand crafted humanslop
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Brain CT scan to 3D model anon- I cannot remember your name, but I got a scan of my sinuses and I think part of (but hopefully all of) my brain, and I’d also like to look in to converting it into a 3D model to slap inside my avatar.
I’d love to talk to you more about it, so if you see me, holler!

Picrel avatar with partial brain scan
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>>585398326
I can't even say, "at least there's mahjong" anymore because it pained me to see even that hijacked by the cringe 67 crew and people being way more impatient and wanting to do that instead of playing. It's nearly nearing the same length as EU jong as at times, fucking hell
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>>585354950
I wouldn't say most of SEAniggers are on par with jeets, after being to both South Asia and South East Asia there is quite a big difference between the two.
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>>585398326
The forced positivity retards that enable Yuki too will seethe about this absolute truth nuke of a post. Genuinely kill yourself if you shill group plus janny instances especially from different timezones
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>>585398959
desu i dont even care if the map was AI generated
purchaseable VIP areas in any map has always been a fucking cancerous plague, that's the real problem here.
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>>585380591
Rush only really makes my heart shit itself.
Good fronting, I should have left that server after most people left because then the usual people started joining and made it far less enjoyable than when we had normal players.
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>>585398751
>the alternative to drinking and standing in one place is encouraging people to get completely black-out drunk to the point you cant leave for the portal
incredible, everyone here is retarded
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>>585400313
Who are you quoting? Obviously not me.
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>>585399526
SEA mahjong is still like 3 to 4 hours everytime though...
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>>585399956
just join a different instance, holy fuck.

I don't understand the "SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING SOMETHING AND I'M NOT FORCED TO GO, I'M SO FUCKING MAD!" autism some of you people have.
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We got hexahedron estate.
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>>585400557
That is what is going to happen you retard. I also get to complain about shit I dont like in this thread you absolute reddit forced positivity faggot
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>>585399956
Who's *actually* worried about jannies in a SOS Group+ instance? It's not like Yukis going to come and kick you for a lewd avatar, it's going to be instance owner fiat like it always is.
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>>585400762
I'm not going to the event either but saying every instance you dislike is ruining EU and that anyone who isn't instantly agreeing with you is 'reddit forced positivity' is incredibly histrionic and postmenopausal woman coded.
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>>585393213
Ohohoho, look at the little generic gamer...
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>>585398326
Just ask your friends to go to your instance instead of that instance. They are your friends, right? You're not actually seething about people you don't know going to some other instance, are you?
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>>585400940
It's just Cakey chimping out(again)
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>>585400557
I have no dog in this but anons have a right to complain even if they have a recourse. Just like how you can complain about that anon complaining with a recourse.
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>>585401262
I love googly eyes
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>>585401324
I just don't understand complaining about an instance you don't have to go to simply existing.

It reeks of such insecurity, like thinking the only way people would do the thing THEY want is if no other options exist.
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>>585395909
who is this
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>>585401524
Retarded faggot NA invader faggot tranny #4
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>>585400957
Not that anon I just wanted to say something about women to correct the record

Breaking consensus is not woman coded, it's the opposite really. Woman coded would be social sabotage and subversion on the down low, and building a relationship with those who have power to give you preferential treatment.
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slamming a quick tylenol before getting on for drinking tn
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>>585399526
>hijacked by the cringe 67 crew
what
there isn't even a friday EU jong to hijack and there's only like 3 of them in NA
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how many more years until I fit in?
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>>585401476
Its because all the complaining is coming from cakey, and he knows if one of his cunny friends aren't hosting he is kick on site by any other host
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>>585401476
If I waited long enough I would surely see you complain about something you don't need to complain about. I could agree with you. That's probably reason enough.
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>>585401218
Oh that makes sense, because he's the one anon who WOULD have random people with SOS janny permissions joining to kick him.
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CAKEY EVERYONE HATES YOU AND YOU HAVE NO PULL OR INFLUENCE HERE, FUCK OFF AND KYS
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>>585401950
I mean there is a reason I specified postmenopausal.

It's not about breaking consensus, it's about trying to force one's own consensus. You've never had to deal with a fucking insane 60+ year old aunt or some 75 year old jewish woman on a warpath, have you?

If I had said "teenage to early 40s woman coded" you'd be absolutely correct.
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>>585402054
it never truly happens

the others might acclimate to your presence, but you will never be one of them, forever an outsider that they tolerate only for now
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i would join the friday instance anons but lately i've been actually so busy with stuff i want to relax tonight and play some recent flatshit i bought.

i hope i can make it to tuesday pavlov next week oomfies.
<3
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>>585400716
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>>585402054
Personally, my favorite type of doujin is the awkward girls who nervously start doing slutty things to try to get people to like them. Have you considered doing this? It won't work, but I'll enjoy it, so you should think about it.
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>>585399507
The practical answer is "@gipity turn my CT scan into a brain model", though if you want the artisanal approach,
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/ is basically the software for it. the scan should a pretty standard format that it handles.
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>>585400716
>>585402691
someone start the instance early so it isn't hexahedron or sovren's
go to fucking hogwarts like the EUs or something
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Hello and oha
This is a bit last minute, but I will be hosting a sprint vector lobby at ~5PST, approximately two hours from now. I am testing smoothing fixes because I really like the game, but the default netcode is shit.
The game is ancient, so you can pick it up ridiculously cheap a key site, but if you do pick it up, remember to set your bindings/use a steamvr preset and do the tutorials. Will post my steam friend code at the time of the lobby for any new joiners.
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>>585402692
>my favorite type of doujin is the awkward girls who nervously start doing slutty things to try to get people to like them
Patrician taste
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>>585402040
I'm referring to the na one
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>got kicked from an instance for making fun of Indians
I guess I know now that most of /vrg/ is SEA browns
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explain the issue with group+ instances instead of friend+ or whatever?
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>>585404403
>stand users attract other stand users
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>>585404403
>there's no such thing as fitting in
>proceeds to describe fitting in
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>>585404321
>i can't scream and samefag shitpost the person who kicked me for 2 weeks because it shows group instead of their name
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>>585402054
theres no such thing as fitting in

you define your own energy and people of similar wavelength will gravitate towards each other. most people are not on similar wavelengths. thats all there is.
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>>585403431
Thank you, Chad BBC.
Now I just need to get my hands on a disc drive…
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>>585402692
literally me... i love these doujins and i want to roleplay this autistically
i assume it annoys most people but some find it funny like me
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>>585404803
Some libraries have usb disc readers for checkout, or at least computers with drives you could use.
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too sick to play this month...
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I'm not gay but some of you weak effeminate men make the hard time in my pants
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chat what do we get for dinner tonight
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>>585406130
Fish and Chips, it's Fish Friday!
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>>585406203
>Salmon Sunday
>Marlin Monday
>Tuna Tuesday
>Wahoo Wednesday
>Trout Thursday
>Flounder Friday
>Sturgeon Saturday
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Your aryan card membership has been revoked.
Reason: Not saying goodbye and leaving like an thief.
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>>585404515
no? "fitting in" is when an individual seeks to become a part of an existing group. if you keep forcing yourself and its not working, it becomes an exercise in futility, aka impossible, aka "no such thing". if you flip it around and you simply let people come to you, that is no longer "fitting in".
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>>585406525
God I love mercury
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>>585406682
wtf nyo i would never do this
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>>585406682
The only goodbyes I'll give are Irish
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How do we feel about boy avatars with girl voices
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>>585406917
Indicative of a fujo which is based
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How do we feel about goy avatars with hasidic voices?
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hacidic voice aounds like acidic voice and reminds me of that jew who projectile vomited on command over some girl he disliked
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>>585402054
You either make it in the first few days or never. I haven't seen a long term member significantly increase in popularity without starting over in a completely different group where they are not known.

t. showed up for hundreds of hours to watch other people in their friend groups I remain a permanent outsider.
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>>585407030
>Hasidics
As a male avatar user stay the hell away from me and go back to Brooklyn.
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Is the search function broken for anyone else?
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>>585407669
Hasidim but I don't believe em
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My only problem with Friday instances is that there are too many drunk people. I really hate it when people are drunk or high
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>>585408010
unfortunate
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>>585391276
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Drifters Blackout Crew Demo got an update where you can now find helmets that contain supply items, found some ammo and grenades in one which saved my run, very neat!
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>>585407921
Haredis, Sephardics, or whatever I don't want to commune with the devil.
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>>585405676
Get well soon anon, take care of your health first /vrg/ can wait.
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>>585408308
Did you guys get a good game last time? I hope this game goes somewhere. It feels nice
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>>585407657
Not true, I didn't talk to anyone for like a month when I first joined.
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>>585407419
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P0mQgkZQgJo
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Its time
https://vrch.at/42dpwnaa
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Hey, will there be any other wallflowers or friendless anons at the halloween event?

We dont have to be friends, but we could stand beside each other to blend in with the normal people, if you want.
I find it embarrassing to stand out like that is all.

Completely serious btw.
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>>585409357
go have a talk with your father
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>>585251431
>>585252601
Huh, it's real. Also has anyone uploaded a D or Capri avatar yet?
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>>585398326
Hi Cakey. How was rehab?
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>>585410046
I need her instead
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>>585392746
>>585399598
shit is shit, no matter if you think it smells "better"
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>>585408743
Speaking is essentially starting over but it won't work if many people already dislike you for not speaking, or if they have invented a personality that conflicts with your speaking self, both of which become greater issues with time.
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>>585410046
begone normalfag
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>>585405509
That is very true, but I am farm anon, so the library is quite a trek.
I am certain one of my neighbors had a portable drive or something could borrow.
If not, Amazon.
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I'm so glad I only play VR games so I don't have to deal with getting shitposted by Cakey.
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raped by tda
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>>585409357
dont know if they will be there but we do have some wallflowers, its fine
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>>585409357
Sorry, I don't open the game any more.
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>>585409357
>>585411650
>see an anon standing alone
>approach and give attention
>anon likes you and you two are cool
>point to another lone anon and approach together
>now you're a group and just give each other headpats or some shit if you've got nothing to talk about
would this work?
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>>585409357
The wanna-be frat boy party normies ruined it for awkward wallflowers.
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>>585409357
What about making friends before that event?
Bored rn, so could hangout and befriend you
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>>585410676
How would you even know who he is if you only played VR games? Because I don't.
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>>585409357
i will wallflower with you if i get my frame before then (i won't)
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>>585411884
My main issue when I tried this was that I couldn't find anyone standing alone. Literally every person who joined an instance would run up to a group after a few seconds.
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>>585412159
why dont you just... follow them?
some of you wallflowers are suffering creations of your own hands
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>>585409357
just find the nearest mic-less cutie and stand next to them
i'll definitely be one of the micless ones
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i like keeping wallflower near me so i can hug them periodically and let them know i love them
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>>585409357
>normal people
kek
you vrc fags are all crème de la crème of degenerates
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>>585412316
No, I mean they'd join the instance then run to a group before I even had a chance to interact with them. Approaching groups just results in the entire group ignoring me.
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>>585412159
Same, I got convinced by the thread that they were more common, but in the end I was the only person wandering around alone looking for others.

>>585411925
Thanks for the offer kind anon, but I'm not going to be online until the end of the month.
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>>585412837
They are not ignoring you you fucking narcissist.
Just chime in at some point jesus fuck.
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>>585413146
>say something
>everyone just continues like you didn't speak at all
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>>585413248
this never happened
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>>585412847
>Thanks for the offer kind anon, but I'm not going to be online until the end of the month.
alright, just know that most anons likely would be supportive so don't overthink much
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>>585413146
sometimes they just keep on talking forever, without a space to add something in a way that doesn't interrupt anyone
that's the wallflower fear of barging in with something of too little value to justify it, wallflowers like harmony and don't want to be obnoxious
yes i'm projecting
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>>585411473
I will never recover from this.
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>>585413248
>>585413509
In conversations there are carries and supports, carries can go on and on about stuff and they are good at telling stories etc.
Supports help fill in the gaps and lulls in the convo with questions or short remarks, their brains are bad at telling stories and being longwinded.
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>>585413424
>next to a conversation of people talking about gundam UC
>the one time I happen actually be an expert on and they're sprouting nonsense
>point out of course story wise unicorn's ending doesn't matter even in hathaway because it was written 20-30 years before fukuda even wrote it
>get ignord even as the conversation goes on
>lose heart
>log out
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>>585410434
It's a good show and the bladerunner 2049, and sasuke memes are funny. I spent 15 minutes combining them manually instead of by AI.
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>>585413714
Carrier and support tier list? I think I've fallen behind on the meta.
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>>585413714
I don't think I've spoken for more than a few consecutive seconds in the last decade.
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>>585413985
you could have made friends if you didn't interject with autistic corrections but instead filled the gaps with "type shit"
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>telling uncs to zoomerify themselves
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>>585413985
You can't disagree with people unless you're more popular than them.
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>>585413985
>gundam UC
I really hope we get more of GQuuuuuux
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>>585403561
Spinning up the Sprint Vector lobby, we'll be using a private lobby.
Friend code is 99929202, add and message "sneed" if you need an invite
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>>585413985
>he did the meme
sorry anon but this was on you. correcting strangers on fictional lore details is never a good way to introduce yourself, even among fellow autists
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>>585415621
this
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>Are you guys going trick or treating?
>Are you guys going trick or treating?
>Are you guys going trick or treating?
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>>585416396
everything is sweeteners, palm oil, overpriced, smaller
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>>585417063
You're right we should put the lead back in gasoline and get murders back up to 1990 rates
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>>585417285
i love the silence of the lambs!
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Entering the Virtual Reality zone once again...
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How would one edit a base body (just the body, not face) so it can still be used with mochifitter profiles? I have a profile for an avatar but I want to make blendshapes or at least a different breast default size and keep mochifitting.
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>>585417839
im goin to groom you with my shitty avatar
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>>585418014
I'm not playing VRChat
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>>585417285
You're "NEW GOOD, OLD BAD!"ing over someone rightly pointing out that food is worse, smaller and more expensive now?
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Is it had that I’ve drawn more than one vrg anons’s characters but have only ever shown it to them privately? Nothing sexual or bad, I just don’t ever feel like it’s right to share that art, which I considered a personal gift of friendship, to the wider thread
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>>585417951
You just do? Shouldn't affect mochifitter fitting for that base although the breasts might look out of place on some models if they don't have a blendshape to adjust the breasts
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>>585418482
Interesting. I thought it would only fit to the default sculpted size? I wanted to make the chest smaller and hips wider by default and have the current chest a blendshape option instead. Wasn't sure on going about this with an edited fbx
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>>585409037
i paused when you dc'd if you wanna rejoin
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I bought a 2.2m x 1.6m rug that I intended to be most of my play area, but then decided to rearrange the whole room to maximize VR space, and bought another rug of the same kind. Current plan is to have 2.2m x 3.2m as the main area with about 0.5m x 1.3m of extra space near shelf F. I'll get a rabbit fur to mark the center.
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>>585418470
yes once you start doing things in private with others you cease being an anon and part of the vrg community, and instead become a normal guy with a discord friend who intrudes on this general
sorry if you dont like this answer
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>>585418762
It does but breasts might be managable since some outfits already have a size adjust for breasts to go bigger or flatter.
Wider hips you'll probably be out of luck though unless there's shapekey for the outfit. It's still fits the outfit for the original base and skeleton but you can get away with very slight adjustments depending on what outfits you mochifit
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>>585418976
this nigga's play room is tatami mats lmao
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>>585417951
>>585418762
i use mochifitter for my very niche base with zero support, and i just sculpt blendshapes with raming's easy mesh editor so i don't even have to fire up blender
mochifitter rarely gets anything 100% right anyway, but you could make a custom target profile if you really wanted, the instructions are somewhere out there
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>>585402682
you mean call of duty mw4...
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>>585419103
>already have a size adjust for breasts to go bigger or flatter.
>unless there's shapekey for the outfit
My base body does not have a breast smaller/wider hips shapekey, unfortunately. I guess I was wondering if it's difficult to remake a profile based off an existing one with edits to it. I'll probably stick to blending it like usual
>>585419271
>raming's easy mesh editor
Might look into this arigatothankyoumas
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>>585416396
ARE YOU GOING COCK SUCKING?
ARE YOU GOING COCK SUCKING?
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>>585416396
no, i cant make a costume in time. it made me sad enough for me to dream about it last night
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>wallflowers
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>>585418974
My internet is cooked finish without me lol. I'll host rebellion same time next week.
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wallflowers at mahjong will be flogged
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>>585418976
that's a very long room
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>>585419764
I don't appreciate the dox
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>>585419764
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP THIS ISNT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>wallflower
Just get picked lmao it's that easy.
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>>585403561
man I wish air gear wasn't shit
concept is great
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>mahjong tables full within minutes
>cant go now without hovering around tables
i look forward to this all day and fuck up at the last minute consistently god damn it
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>>585420759
just wait around and banter for like 10 minutes max it's fine
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Does anyone want to do something in the Virtual Reality zone?
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>>585419784
Shit that sucks. Thanks for hosting anyway!
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>>585420880
i dont have a banter gland in my body, which has prevented me from speaking or attending /vrg/ stuff on a regular basis
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>>585418470
As someone who strongly opposes the segregation of the community into exclusive circles, there's no problem with such interactions between individuals.
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>>585421059
fuck you mean segregation, sometimes I just wanna hang with my close friends and not always subject myself to the drunk screaming you autistic retard
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>>585421208
There's a difference between having a group of friends and the entire community just devolving into exclusive circles that never interact with each other.
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ATTENTION

Due to recent incidents, tonight's NA vrchat meetup will have a strict no-wallflowers policy.

The /vrg/ HR team will be actively patrolling the instance on the lookout for suspicious behavior.

>hovering near groups and then rapidly moving away when looked at
>pretending to be looking at a desktop overlay
>making more than one(1) lap around the instance
>exploring the world alone and jumping on random terrain
>standing on balconies gazing at the crowd of gatherings

Violators will be interrogated and forced to maintain eye contact while having a conversation with two people who clearly are far more interested in engaging with each other than with you, a total stranger.
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>>585417603
you know what to do.
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>>585421650
r-robert, please...
you know me, man! let me go just this once!
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>>585421650
please stop ;_;
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>>585421650
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>585421650
total wallflower death
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>>585421650
are you sure you want to provoke them one of them might go postal
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>>585413985
are you absolutely certain you mic is working clearly? the only time i see this kind of thing happen is when someone's voice is not fully understandable and no one knows them well enough or cares enough to point it out.
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>>585421650
i feel personally called out on every single one of these points
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>>585421650
>check
>check
>check
>check
>check
god damn it
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posts above are larpers because wallflowers don't exist
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>>585422251
true, i can't name six or seven wallflowers at all
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>>585421650
what instance do i join to play wallflower hide and seek?
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where are my government mandated perks for being a wallflower
i was promised perks
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>>585422469
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>>585421758
>>585421778
>>585421894
>>585422025
>>585422110
>>585422641

>>585409357
Will you be there?
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>>585422903
no...
>>585419495
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>"See? Like this, right?"
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>>585422992
you can still find random spooky assets on booth
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>>585409357
Nope my one anchor isn't going to be on that weekend so I won't make an avatar which doubly means I'm not getting on.
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>>585423442
kill the spic
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>>585423442
I love edgegooning
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>>585422015
yeah because I was talking to one of them earlier later about yamato rebel 3199 and the nu-series in general
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>>585423442
lucy looks so off
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Chrome is evolution.
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>>585415270
Good racing! This game was super ahead of its time. i am tempted to try to make a nu-version of this someday
if (you) have ANY interest in vr games, pick this up and play. i will host a lobby next week on friday also
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>>585422992
Just change the colors of your outfit to orange and black, and put on a bat/pumpkin hairpin or something.
Go make friends, you loser.
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>>585419764
KEK
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>>585419906
For you
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>>585421650
E-everyone does this r-right?
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>>585421650
N
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>>585424382
Dumbass cunt american. If you hosted this 8hrs earlier you'd get people to show up.
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>the cupboard updated

retvrn...
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>>585424842
i stumbled upon this community just worldhopping one time and i still dont really get what theyre going for after stopping by one of their meets
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>>585424842
holy kino
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>>585424842
HOLY FUCK!!!!!
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>>585424842
is this the one with barkley?
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>>585425527
yeah all the cardboard cutouts in that big lodge
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>>585421650
fuck... guess ill dodge
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>>585421650
>turns out I'm a wallflower
FUCK

It's not like I have nobody to talk to Robert, come on! I've got like one vrfu and four or so people I would call acquaintances...
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>>585424712
if i were unemployed, i would be able to, but alas
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>>585424382
Missed it this time, but should hopefully be around for it next week
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>>585421650
i swear, i just like climbing the map..
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>>585424842
Weird map, weird community, multiple likely-pedos about
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wake me up when theres karoake
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I NEED A KIPFEL
I NEED A KIPFE; SO BADLY
IM GOIGHN TO CRY IF I ODONT HAVE A KIPFEL WIGFE RIGHT HTISHUF CKIGN INSTNATN
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>>585425570
>>
hey, how do i make my avatar wink with eye tracking? it looks like both eyes are locked in-step and doesn't seem to quite know how to handle closing one eye irl
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Going to try some new maps at Pavlov tomorrow, be prepared...
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just updated it's core terms of service

The changed bits seem to be abvout
- content moderation
- appeals & dispute process changes
- eu compliance
- suspensions for misuse of reporting tools
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>>585427432
Frame I'm assuming?

You need these two programs:
https://github.com/sasaken1102r/frameeyeosc
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3329480/VRCFaceTracking/
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>>585429203
>google search AI
that thing is a piece of crap that hallucinates non-stop.
at least use gork or claude or something to make sure that shit is actually accurate
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>>585429203
if i get banned, i get banned
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>>585430057
i already have the eye tracker released by that one company whose name keeps escaping me. it works fine and tracks both eye movements, but i can't wink with it.
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>>585430374
Paper tracker?

Either way you at least need that second program, VRCFaceTracking, to get the winking working in VRChat.
Eventually you hopefully won't need that anymore since VRChat is working on their own proprietary system in beta right now for getting facetracking and stuff working.
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>>585429203
all of these things actually sound surprisingly like good changes, although the public trader profile thing seems a little weird. does that require your IRL name and contact details or something?
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>>585430493
Babble Frame Runtime is the damned thing, i finally found it
yeah i have VRCFT already because Runtime needs it. as i said it works fine for blinking but doesn't seem to do independent tracking of eyes so i can't wink with it. i was wondering if there's like a toggle i need to enable ingame to do that.
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>>585430587
No they are bad because vrchat needs to spend additional money to explain to the EU why they banned wolfboy67 for erping in public
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>>585430927
Do you have a full face tracking setup on your avatar in unity? If you want single eye blinks I'm pretty sure you need a full FT set.

If memory serves, I don't think the out-of-the-box vrc sdk eye stuff includes an option to set up blendshapes for separate eye blinks, it expects just one for eyes closed
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>>585431331
i have no idea what that is
which probably means i have to go back to unity and fuck around with my prefab yet again
why is this game like this, man
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>>585431530
Check if it works on this avatar, since I know it's got a full FT package. If it works, you know the problem is you need to add face tracking to your avatar; if not, then you know the problem is upstream
https://vrchat.com/home/avatar/avtr_3efe552c-3f33-4eff-b360-26ccb5c925a1
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>>585431530
imo don't even bother doing unity changes. The vrchat face tracking system is getting a complete overhaul in like 2 weeks might as well be winkless for a bit rather than learn something thats about to be obselete
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>>585431530
do you have claude code? it can read your unity project and tell you how to install face tracking templates.
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>>585430927
That sounds like it might be an avatar issue as opposed to software or VRChat.
Try what this anon said with seeing if it works on an avatar that has confirmed working winking >>585431659
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>>585431530
>why is this game like this, man
Because we all must struggle through Unity and Blender hell together.
>which probably means i have to go back to unity and fuck around with my prefab yet again
Yes, but it's not as bad as it sounds.
If you have a booth base that is at least semi-popular, the "full face tracking setup on your avatar in unity" that the other anon you were referring to is as simple as drag and drop and takes less than a minute.

Tell me what your base is and I can try and find a facetracking prefab for you from the booth pirating website.
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Vrchat should have been made in a modern engine like unreal from the start ugh
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>>585433347
I know you're shitposting but god, could you imagine if this game was on UE5?
4 fps in every lobby
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>>585433347
TUPPER HIRE THIS MAN
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The AI shilling has been ramping up around here lately…
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>>585434436
I use it for backend stuff like scripting but I draw the line at using it to make assets. Making the assets for a map or avatar is the entire soul of it, anyone who uses ai to make models and stuff is soulless
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>>585434436
get with the times or fall behind
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karoake shit no flat niggers allowed
https://vrch.at/f3dtvk8v
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>>585434436
I use it for asset stuff like changes to models and textures but I draw the line at using it to write code. Writing the code and piecing together functionality is the entire soul of it, anyone who uses ai to write scripts and stuff is soulless.
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>>585434895
ok unc
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>hexahedron
grim
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>tfw too normal to get along with weirdos yet too weird to get along with normies
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>>585436309
better than your soulless slop world ivana
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>>585432250
>>585431659
yeah, i can wink with that avatar. oh this is annoying.

>>585432496
>Tell me what your base is and I can try and find a facetracking prefab for you from the booth pirating website.
this one
https://booth.pm/en/items/4365852
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>>585435107
>>585436447
get along with me
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>>585436487
>everyone that dislikes hexahedrones is ivana
rent free
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>>585436523
Not that anon, but a quick search says there's no face tracking package for that base, so you're gonna either have to switch bases, make it yourself, or be unable to blink
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>>585436487
T. Rando lover. You sicken me.
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is steam frame out yet
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>>585436523
That model was unfortunately made before facetracking was really even picking up as a thing so no one made a module for it like the other anon said.

You'll have to wait until VRC hopefully allows you to wink with their newest beta SDK, make/set it up yourself (might not actually be too painful if you use claude hooked into unity mcp and/or blender mcp to help you out), or switch booth bases

>>585434436
Yeah, it has been.
But I think the way that the general has been handling it has been good.
It's not bullshit like "type this prompt into chatgpt with a picture of your VRChat avatar to get AI sloppa'd art of it, and then post it to the thread!!" like we had before.
It's actually just becoming a genuinely useful tool now and most people are handling it as such.
Take this anon's example of not getting eyetracking set-up on his avatar because there's no booth prefab for it.

He could spend hours of effort researching how to do it and perfecting blinking shapekeys in blender.
Or just ask AI to do it for you because who the fuck wants to be burdened with these kinds of technical issues in regards to avatar creation?
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>>585437976
yes
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>>585437976
anon it came out over a month ago
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valve shouldve released the steam frame in october and called it Scream Frame and it would be their last headset ever

also its like purple and the plastic has cobweb pattern indented with white ghosts floating around
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>>585438107
>>585437292
thanks. that's really too bad
>i have no facetracking package and i must wink
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>>585438365
I want one with the trans flag colors on it called the Pride Frame
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>>585438127
>>585438160
is it good compared to the index? should i wait?
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>>585438987
>implying you have any choice
You'll wait whether you want it or not.
>compared to the index
+With the ergo strap (you probably can't get), more comfortable. Has built in eye tracking. Wireless.
-Doesn't natively support lighthouse tracking, so if you've got existing lighthouse you'll have to deal with a hybrid tracking setup. Mic quality isn't as good. Runs off a battery. Video compression.
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>>585439227
-speaker quality isn't as good either
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>>585438987
>should i wait?
you will wait since there's a waitlist to buy one

it is most definitely better than the index hardware wise (except for audio/mic, although they did confirm they're planning to release index audio attachment for the frame) but the software is still in a bit of a beta stage.
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I love virtual reality...
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>>585435107
>>585436587
>no flat niggers allowed
a boy and a bag of bones
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>>585439227
what the fuck. so everything is worse other than people getting to see where you look?

>>585439386
>definitely better than the index hardware wise
in what way? is it better than my index hooked up to my PC?
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any good psvr2 pc adapter alternatives? it is currently out of stock and I don't feel like paying 60 bucks
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>>585439563
youre moms a boy
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>>585440232
I wish I wasn't so beta so I could join in on the fun
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>>585439763
If you don't benefit from eye tracking, wireless, stand-alone capabilities or better comfort - it's a sidegrade, for now. With the pro head strap that Valve will release Soon(TM), that'll fix the audio and battery life, Valve is releasing updates on a regular basis that improve the general stability and could potentially improve the microphone; and Babble Pro will add full face tracking without a goofy module hanging off the bottom of the headset. Fluxpose is also making a native Frame-compatible tracker/receiver so you'll be able to do Frame-native FBT, Eventually(R).
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>>585439763
>in what way?
Lenses: Pancake lenses of the Frame are FAR better than the fresnel lenses of the Index. Fresnel lenses give you intense godrays, far smaller sweetspot, just worse overall
Resolution: Frame is like 2100kx2100 or something, I think Index is 1400x1600 or so. It is a very noticeable increase
Weight: Index weights nearly 900 grams with the cable attached. Frame is 440 grams total, with the actual Frame unit itself (without the battery and strap) being only 185 grams. It is a definite notice in comfort

These are basically the 3 main things and they are big noticeable positive changes compared to Index.
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>>585440292
get in stupid
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>>585434436
I use it to proofread wip chapters for my webnovel, and point out spellings. i just like to see its impressions and I have no one friends that read so its just a little less lonely
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>>585435107
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>>585442604
Wow, are those real girls?!
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>>585442675
perchance?
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>>585438987
>should i wait?
You don't have a choice

If you're happy with the index honestly just stick with it, it's not enough of a bump to be worth it.
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>>585443364
Also
>muh lenses
>muh resolution

100% pointless when you lose all that detail and clarity to fucking encoding artifacts. I'm serious, it looks worse.
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>>585409357
come hang out pal.
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I forgor about this world; it's wikipedia. You go from room to room and it dynamically loads articles. You could probably play the hitler game on it
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>>585434436
it is an amazing tool that lets me have things that I never could otherwise
Unless the people sulking about AI offer to do everything I want it for, whenever I want it, for no more than 20 bucks a month; I will continue using it

I don't want to continue wearing the same few things because my only options are different kinds of slutware or edgy tacticool LARP
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>>585444058
I remember playing wikipedia on facepunch... good times
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If you read this in vr ur gay
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Would I get kicked from instances if I was an anime man that wore a shirt saying "Trans Rights"
>>
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>>585445286
this post glows
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gay people aren't real and vr is a larp
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>get steam frame
>excited to start using it
>dongle isnt working
>turns out that microsoft are NIGGERS and 6g functionality is disabled on older windows 10 versions
auuuughhh i dont wanna update my fucking windows fuck
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>>585445708
please cool it with the racism, I am Indonesian/Black and don't appreciate it.
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>>585445708
just switch to windows 11
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>>585440869
>>585442604
I feel like you hate me skeleton dude, so I avoid karaoke
>>
good morning
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>>585446050
the steam frame dongle works fine on my other windows 10 ltsc laptop, i just dont want to update to it because the changes to explorer suck so much....
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>>585445308
giwi was there for naptime
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>>585446183
are you a furry?
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>>585446806
How long are you going for still?
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hey skeleton unmirror your pics so i can read the lyrics easier...
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After a tremendously long day I’m finally able to hop on VR. Is anyone doing anything? It’s way too short of notice of notice but I can also test out the newest version of the drive in theater if anyone wants to hang out there
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>>585446806
Yoshie has the sexiest ass
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>>585447105
There's anons doing some karaoke right now
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whats the best wired set up for the quest 3 on linux? i know you can use an usb-c to ehternet thats connected to an secondary router. also i suppose that the meta fiber link cable only works with the official meta program (windows). since i doubt wivrn could support it. using my short usb c for when im sitting on my chair works.
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>>585448061
VD supports streaming over USB on the beta if not proper release now, no router intermediate needed, though there's the obvious
>Linux
question
>>
https://x.com/Pie_Pighting/status/2113531643084566661
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>>585448061
wivrn and alvr have wired USB modes
they work but aren't magic or anything, they just trim off the transport layer of 3-4ms latency so not much of a tradeoff compared to just using wireless straight-up
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>>585444058
It has a built in hitler game
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>Steam Frame unironically has fucking super power night vision in completely dark rooms with its monochrome camera

Wait what the fuck how has no one mentioned this before?
This is unironically a huge pro of their cost-cutting shitty no-color cameras, that they never even advertised and barely anyone has mentioned.
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>>585449542
We did, it does, ir illuminators
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>>585449542
It gets mentioned here and there. This is my first headset so I don't really understand how much it matters, especially since I have all my lights on anyway.
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>>585449542
Valve is retarded for not adding a green filter to the pass through so you can feel tacticool when you sneaking around your house at night with all the lights turned off.
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>>585449924
>you can set whatever colour you want
Anon...
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>>585449924
anon... it can be any color
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>>585427069
hi
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I've made my tail unposeable.
What are you gonna do now huh?
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>>585447650
Yeah I'm there now
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>>585450440
Jerk your tail off
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>>585446898
however long
>>585447143
yes
>>
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>>585429203
i hate vrc and you vrcuck faggots so the onyl reason i use it and come to bunch of gatherings and parties is to report people and i always use real reasons
this seems fine for me
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>>585449924
you can change it to any color
it sees in dark
it is a night vision
i want that lens protector
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EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 130

18:00 UTC 20:00 CET, 26th of October ( be carefull of the time zone change, it's gonna be changed!)

LMP3! In yet another curvy-flowing English track! And as a desert - one more Spain explo with vintage cars and tiny bit less traffic!

60 minute practice
12 minutes qualifiers
15 laps race

Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html
To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Install stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/ujAg1SxI#x4gRpXrR480P4ftj1sMw6w
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>>585452369
sure you do, buddy.
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>>585429203
>The great doxing of sellers
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Walkabout Mini Golf!
1300 utc+1 (2hr 12min from now)
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>>585448863
i should have phrased it a little differently. i want to get an dedicated router for my room since my main router alongside the modem and servers are in the living room. im already using an ethernet cable thats connected to my pc, but i dont want to buy an even longer one since i have i dont like how i have to step over the cable every day, and i also cant ziptie it on the walls since my room is too far from the living room. so i thought if i could have the dedicated router connected to my pc and just use the ethernet to usb c method as a way to play. since i do want to get slime trackers soon and the paper tracker kit somewhere next year. (the main caveat is that im using linux, so i have no clue how well all those side steps work with it, since i know it just works under windows)

i could solve this problem by just bridging the secondary router with my main within the living room if i were living alone and actually could use the living room place to act like a dork without my partner
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Wrong! This cat is deceased.
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>>585453386
If anyone sells anything anywhere, vr, real life, internet...they should have all their core data public.
Buying from those who do not disclose it should be auto 2 year prison. Selling like that 10 years prison.
Would eliminate resellers for good or push it into mafia land and most people would not tackle that.
So all in all excellent change
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>>585429203
>be hired as a part of an independent out-of-court settlement body
>your work is deciding whether shinano nipples were okay to show off in a public instance if dude claims it's a male avatar
holy shit, what a dream job
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>>585450435
I'm scared...
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steam frame just loves disconnecting, it seems like
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>meet a user that never speaks never types
>whole schtick between us is we silently world hop together for months
>find beautiful worlds together sometimes sitting in them in complete silence
>one day the user never comes back online leaving me not know he or she ever was
Goodbye my autistic friend.
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>>585455938
woah it's from that british anime
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>>585408489
First few rounds went well, no bugs from what I could tell.
Then it started breaking and the enemies slide around the floor, not attacking/damaging the clients but still attacking the host while the clients could still kill enemies.
I think that fixed itself in a new round.
It's quite a fun game and I like that you can share weapons like in After the Fall.
Gonna see if my idea with the laser rifle and the support class's spine skill thingy with friendly fire healing bears fruit one day.
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>>585455938
'Sup Mugi
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>>585453964
Do you guys normally fill up? I've been joining the NA sessions but I am a NEET with a drifting sleep schedule. Don't want to take a spot from a regular of the timezone, though.
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My opinion of Valve has significantly fallen due to this.
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>>585448764
WE HATE FAIRIES, SHOOT FAIRIES, DOUBLE SHOTGUN FAIRIES, GRENADE FAIRIES, CHAINSAW FAIRIES

Cirno is the strongest

The game is pretty goddamn fun if only the arenas were bigger, and needs collider fixing, you get stuck on all slopes and unevennes. Most likely most of the game is generated.
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>>585459669
Did you just join or something? There aren't enough units, tough luck.
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>>585460317
I joined in the first hour. I got put behind scalpers, retards who don't even know what they're clicking, people who went 10 years without buying a single headset, people who got the immediate chance to buy and didn't do it, even one I personally know who has bought and received a headset and won't even open it. A seven year wait for the next Valve headset, countless hundreds spent on cables and controllers, and at the end of it I just get nothing, not even a predicted date.
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>>585460648
Yeah the random lotto was bullshit.
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Do I have sloshy tits?
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>>585462675
Wiggle them around in front of me and i'll check
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>>585459669
>>585460648
i feel this as im also on the cucklist, i remember getting index when it came out i was on time and got in line for it, now its we dont want to leave out people who dont really care and just randomly clicked on the list

or they sent em out to random tech bros lesson learned gotta start up a vr tech youtube for next time
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>>585462763
Truth is they just let anyone sign up then handed them out randomly. And so you randomly give them half to retards.
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>>585462910
no no we're stopping scalpers, scalpers with 10-20 accounts still get at least half
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>>585462910
Half of people are retarded is a bad meme. It's a normal distribution so the majority of people are close to average.
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>>585458731
It's kind of random. If we fill up fast we tend to split instance so there's space.
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Join private lobby 'vrg'
If full try 'vrg1' (and then post saying you started a lobby if you're first)
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>>585463085
I guess you're part of the average you mention.
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>>585463803
Filled instantly, come join vrg1
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>>585463085
This anon has never worked a job dealing with the public populace.
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>>585463834
If you think the average person is retarded, then the number would be much greater than 50%. There isn't a threshold at 100 where people suddenly become different.
>>585464659
I worked in a supermarket for 10 years. The major issue is people's ability to communicate. A lot of interactions are two people talking about different things without both of them realising it and at least one of them assuming the other is retarded because their answers don't make sense.
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>>585465243
>I worked in a supermarket for 10 years.
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>>585456937
That sound like the same bugs that were in the earlier Quest beta. The fact they didn't fix that yet makes me warry.
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>>585466280
Meta only fixes jailbreaks. It makes everything else worse.
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>>585466694
Talking about a game here, anon.
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>>585464005
Good golfing second room golfers. No closest putt from us today.
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>>585471289
Some clips.
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Kipfels are so cute i can't stand it. I need a kipfel who develops a severe emotional trauma because of me
I want to scar a kipfel for life.
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T-thanks yuki
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Good golfing gros!
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Why is /vrg/ filled with pedophiles
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>>585474221
which ones
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>>585473098
Chatgpt made me make it 9nto a plugin! GPTs are getting retired. trust me I tried to keep it public
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>>585474304
the gremlin lovers...



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