Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>DatesName reservations on October 27.The journey begins on November 4.>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/ZQ2Wkkqbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/fAmJnY5w<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFCzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/pMkz4EmVB<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | Discordless>Previous >>585401404
>>585416143now give them fat horsecocks
Are you guys Luddites or Rudites?
>>585416259You'd have to use AI for that and that will make anons seethe uncontrollably for the rest of the thread again
>>585416143i like female tummies in wow. wow needs more tummies, not fewer.
In 5 years we will have full partys only filled with bots and perfect voice chat exactly like you want. It will be glorious.
The eternal debate.
So can you keep your hairstyle while wearing a hat yet in this game?
>want to play Horde PvP >that means I'm ForeverTM barred from making a Dwarfchad unless I want to play PvE with insufferable brainlet simpsDo I just forget the zug zug and go Alliance PvP? Why the fuck can't I have both factions on a layered to fuck mega server anyways?
slop general inhabited by subhumans
>cant play a nelf mageI guess I'll have to play femhumie..
i'm not going to ever invite a warlock to one of my dungeon groupsI don't play with ppl that play a satanic class
>>585416601PvP for chilling with chads like XaryuPvE is the Asmonigger layer
when are they adding a body type that looks like me
>>585416730Well the night elves have no reason to use the arcane right after the 3rd war
>all this yapping about streamers Wow seems kinda brown ngl
Is the 60$ pre-order OP? you get a free epic mount
>>585416816They have added it, its called a Trogg
>>585416964that's not a body type
>>585416963wait whatthere's no way. that'd be p2w af
Let me come inside, /wowf@g/ :^)
>>585417035looks just like you tho
>they sent me 3 invite codes despite refunding the pre-orderI guess I will just give myself 3 free weeks of gametime
Which feels stronger when leveling, PW Fort+Spirit or a MOTW+Thorns?
>>585417249fem nelfs were made for cuddling and gentle intimate coitus with lots of kissing on the mouth and appropriately-timed periods/levels of roughness
>>585417413you mean femgnomes
>>585416764But I wanted to play warlock.
>>585417413>fem nelfs were made for living in a white trash suburb with a husband who beats her and the kids while working as a minimum wage laborer who spends ~40% of his paycheques on drugs and whoresfixed
>>585417476those are something you just grab when your night elf is away hunting and you need quick relief
>>585416764technically priest is satanic as well since shadow magic comes from the void so they are using dark evil energies
>>585417554Did your mom play a night elf?
>>585417583quick relief is what night elves are for, femgnomes are for loving
>>585417476>>585417583Imagine your pocket pussy calls you up and tells you shes pregnant
>no jiggly boobsWoW Forever Gay
>>585417798>He wants boobs that move like testicleswhy are you gay
>alliance has the best cities, zones and races to play>but no studs to fuck my elf>horde has all the studs to fuck my elf>but no hot races to play and shitty cities and zonestruly suffering
>>585417836not sure what's more weird here. the fact you've never seen a boob before or the fact you've got weird balls ....
>>585417905The lack of Draenei for futards will end the RP scene. No one is getting raped by m*le
Dumb question. Can you transmog other class' gear as long as its the same armor type?
>>585418056Unlikely, if it has Requires: specific classAnd you shouldnt be able to in the first place
Can't wait to get the silithid dungeons
Are Dwarf rogues based? I don't give a fuck about min/max faggotry just AURA. I'm not leveling another Dwarf Hunter and Pally is boring as fuck.
>year 2026>no boob sliderWhat is this shit?
My brain says priest but my heart.......says drood....
>>585418298What about Shaman?
>>585418298if you have to ask lil bro ur not gettin no aura
>>585418298Dwarf rogues are bis for pvp but they're also based because they're the only acceptable alliance race for trvechads
>>585418402plus their Eviscerate animation is great when they do the spinning around thing!
>>585418314>Why is there no boob slider in a game rated T for Teen
>>585418501americans are so weird
>>585416624go horde pvp and alliance rp-pvp like everyone else
What’s the least autistic class to playPhysical dps seems like the sweatiest most miserable group of people on earth
>>585418501we need an MA+ version of wow on its own servers with ID verification and all the sliders! make it cost an extra $30 on the store to unlock. kek.
>>585418501You can handcraft titties in the Sims lil bro
>>585416963>>585417049mounts are cheap & riding skill is expensive
>>585418501Xiv has a boob slider
>>585418362I'd play it if Blizzard put literally any work into it. Why the fuck am I turning into a wolf like some green dindu and wearing their dresses. Give me Wildhammer effects and armor.
>>585418698Saving 1/6th the price is still P2W
>>585418698oh right they brought in the retail system into retail minus. mb
>>585418314boob slider comes after succi transmog
>>585418602Nah you guys are for thinking about that yucky stuff all day
>>585418702ESO has a boob AND ass slider.
>>585418698Is the $30 edition mount an epic mount? Saving even 200g is probably worth the money
>>585418643just be yourself :)
someone post the AI wow porn catbox
>>585418643priest
>>585418816The skyborn one is, the bear is a 40 that is supposed to scale with your riding skill.
>>585418643it's vanilla wow. they are all autistic because it's a try-hard game.
>>585416601>play with fags, trannies, and redditors>play with normal peopleWhat exactly is the struggle? The choice is obvious.
>>585418740Dwarf Shamans should turn into a ghost Ram.
>>585418992Nah it should be a boar Boars were their original mount
>>585418923>buy the new race or Forever be left behind, goyim!!ahhhhhhhhh *stretches* *lights cigarette* just normal regular blizzard thangs.
Have they said anything about druids getting customizations for their forms?
>>585418643dps in general can be super sweaty because they all play to pump and try to be the top of the meter in their own raid and post their logs to compete against everyone. Tanks also are sweaty since everyone relys on you being geared and buffed up for easier runs.If you want the most relaxed spec to play just play healer.
>skelf regen seems really good for leveling/pve but human is better in pvpwat do
>>585416764I don't group with retail elves so the feeling is mutual
>>585418314>boob slider>when we dont even have jiggle physics anymorenigga we goin backwards, they going to make all the women into butch lesbians with square jawlines
>>585416601i go pvp cause >>585401638Just load up with defensive flasks and the ganking becomes a non issue, no one expects that you got minor stealth potions with you or that you got armor ups on that can tank hits.
>>585419085Pay for a race change every time you want to pvp, goy
>>585418298Dwarf melee animations are usually pretty bad but for rogue it's actually fine.
>>585419064you can go to the barber shop to use retail forms but that's it
>>585419064We can use the barbershop to change our forms colors but they haven't said anything about getting whole new forms or keeping things like snake form. They have said they had a lot of stuff disabled in the beta so people can still find new discoverys from 1-30, like the torch was originally disabled but they enabled it specifically just so they could test how it impacted peoples performance, so we might be able to keep snake form.
Are there actually full-fledged turf wars on RP-PvP servers, or is it just isolated instances of ganking?My only knowledge of 'em is from the Barny videos, and that just looks like stupid isolated instances of combat.It could just be 'cus I was watching a Rogue, but I dunno.
>>585418763>>585418816Chudston Stone said gold won't be as much of a concern on wowf compared to classic so depends how fashionable you want or need to be and for how long, i for one was too high class to buy an AV mount
>>585419073But aren’t healers really limited? At least dps is good to fill a slot. A raid only needs a few healers
>>585419139This is why Sally is the best girl she's never looked bad
>>585419383You can always find a group as a healer, also if they somehow get full up on healers you can just off spec as a dps since every healer can dps.
>>585419346Why do you type like you talk? That’s so unnatural
>>585419085Skelf regen is only good if fights last longer than 2 minutes.
>>585419139Poor Liadrin
Level 60 Druids can spam a single downrank of wrath for 25 mana with the talents and still proc omen. I think thats kinda neat.
>>585419346the game doesn't have any meaningful territorial ownership for turf wars to happenopen to suggestions for my indie mmo on how to fix this
>AIjeet hates AsmonchadYou can't make this stuff up
>>585419570Wrath is druids wand.
>>585419510Is it? Even my brother and sister say I text on the phone like I'm AI.
>>585418702Then go play XIV tranny. I'm sure your rotted pornbrain will enjoy that fag game better
>>585419634I think it will be funny since you probably regen faster than that, and you can just press wild growth with omen procs every 10 seconds or so.
>>585418698>don't vendor shit that drops>sell ores that you don't need>sell engineering reagents >has 120g at the end of betaJesus Christ it's not hard... This is me just playing normally, not farming anything. That being said /wowfg/ what can I play waiting for this game, I tried Aion 2 but I uninstalled a minute into the game.
>>585419639Well can’t you just stop? Putting on that sort of textual affectation has to be more effort than a linear expulsion of your internal monologue. I was once in a party with someone who kept typing like that, it was insanely uncomfortable for everyone. He even had macros for when he spent his pet in.>’ave at ‘em Steelwing!>Oooohhh I be feelin’ that in the mornin’!Like stop! Type normal!
11 days is an eternity to wait. Will it actually be possible?
>>585419787I am always under 40g by the time I’m level 40. I have no idea how people like you do it. You have to be farming
>>585418698That's a lot. Can i get exalted with SW by level 60 just by questing in human zones?
>>585419883>hunters talking to their pets in party chatthis is why I never invite hunters
>literally all I wanted out of Classic+ was for Shaman to not be shit>it's somehow even more shit I really don't even know what I expected from Blizzard. How are the other hybrids looking for end game healing/pvp dual specs?
>>585417028What streamer made this poll?
>>585419883>>585419510You just sound low test
Are the new undead racials gonna be shit? I want to go undead priest for my main but I've heard that they got nerfed pretty hard
>>585418056Yes. E.g. if your class wears mail you can transmog into any mail armor
ritual posting shitty ai and porn slop isn't going to make the game good, nigger
>>585420216In retail does it let you transmog other classes tier sets?
>>585419998Are you sure you don't vendor valuable shit? That's pretty much all I do, a bunch of green gear around lvl 26-30 is worth 60-1g the +attack or +spell damage ones are worth upwards of 2g. I also spam dungeons for BIS and sell BOE shit to the AH.
>skelves>dumb addition but can play them as a high elf and always sexo>femhumies >sd models are kinda shit but they are pure sexo with hd modelsI cant decide
My brain says male orc but my dick says femnelf
>>585420348You just said you spam dungeons so you do farm
>>585420284no, even next patch when they are removing armor type restrictions the class restrictions remain
>>585420452I don't farm for gold, I farm for shit that will help me gank people. I just so happen to get gold as a result.
is it november yet
>>585420348I don’t get valuable shit. I just quest and get barely enough to survive. Money spent on skills and drinks and potions and repairs
>>585420039They all look fine. Shaman is right where it should be.
Is Shifting back and forth to cast Rejuv+Regrowth during combat a thing as Bear druid or does that become stupid due to increased damage and later abilities liked frenzied regen?Should druids go for the extra hit and crit in balance tree 100% of the time no matter what?Talking about general purpose build here so solo shenanigans and dungeon tanking.
Only one month until daily rr orb spam
>>585417028come March there are going to be 5 server types for this stupid game, what are they even thinking
>>585418816Wait do I get a free mount just because I bought the game? Lol what stupid ass shit is this. Mounts should be character locked, not account wide.
>>585420039I'm going dwarf shammy and we'll be fine, hell everyone will be fine, we don't know what's at higher levels in terms of relics, gear, and possible mechanics that were deliberately disabled during the beta
>>585420584Why not just get a mage friend to make you water? I don't even use water, just melee until I am low hp then cast regrowth/rejuv then change back to cat. It's not hard ffs, hell I don't even need the money for the lvl 40 mount since I get travel form but I guess this shitty game is gonna force me to buy the skill anyways for the lvl 60.
Alliance needs a monstrous rapist race, not another faggy elf race.
>>585420039Ret is looking to be one of the best dps. Feral druid is probably the best tank and feral will be a fine dps.Healing wise shaman and druid look great but paladin looks really bad.If you want to play shaman and want to be enh, you'll be fine. If you want to play shaman and do ele for pvp it wont be fine. They went out of their way to say they balanced ele shaman around not being able to be as good as it was in pvp.
So NE Druid or Human Warlock for my main on a PvE server?Then the other will be my alt
>>585420746Are you pulling big groups? For 1-2 mobs you shouldn't need to shift or heal at all if you have Thrill of Adventure.
>>585421015Worgen.
>>585420746What in retardation is this spec anon? If you're tanking, you will never shift to heal in a group. You put 9 points in balance for the hit, crit, and bleed damage. Rage generation is the most important thing in the tree.>drop lacerate rage reduction talent, it's not enough to be worth the points>remove 1 point from rip and tear>put 5 points into the dodge = rage talent>add 3 to thick hide
>>585421015Maybe half-giants, even bigger and more juiced up than orcs
What vidya do I play for 12 days?
>>585421169>more fur fags
>>585420964I don’t have friends
>>585421083Fuck you i'm already doing that
>>585420746>Should druids go for the extra hit and crit in balance tree 100% of the time no matter what?this is what I initially wanted to do, because of course hit and crit are wonderful, but I found even with level 35 talents in the beta that having the points in resto instead of balance feels much better (wpvp). at 60 you can get swiftmend and 50% mana regen at all times, lower shift mana costs and the gcd reduction on rejuvseems way more generally survivable than putting the points in balance
>>585421220retail wow
>>585421169It can’t have a snout. You know why.
>>585421220all those games you got on sales and said to yourself to play some day
>>585421183https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/druid/v205-55230332120132012551_t0/1ABCDKjHGQPnTsWzVF0BNot that anon, but what would you sacrifice to get that last stuff in balance?
>>585421289I don't have an active sub or the latest expansion
>>585420746>Is Shifting back and forth to cast Rejuv+Regrowth during combat a thing as Bear druidNo, while you cast you can't dodge and you also lose all your armor bonuses while out of bear form so you become insanely squishy.You can rejuv and regrowth prepull to give yourself extra threat and heals. Furor is also just a pvp talent now its not worth the 5 points.You want to do this.
>thought rppvp seethe was just shitposting>some retards actually do think it's going to kill rppve somehowfunny
>>585421315I haven't bought any games on sales that I haven't played the same day
Do I really have to get spirit tap on priest? It’s 5 wasted points in group content, and I have friends.
>>585421228>>585421294Look, worgen work on the Alliance because they're "monsters" while still being civilized. Horde is the monster faction.We could get dark trolls on the Alliance but it's lame cause they're just like regular trolls but purple, there's no point.
>>585421289Retail is genuinely so fucking shit that it isn't even worth using as a timewaster while waiting for Forever.
>>585421331https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/druid/v2050022-55230302120132012541_t0/0B1ACDHKjQPnsTbVz0EF1bbbbFwwww
>>585421335based
>>585421436The demographic for RP-PVP isnt RP-PVE people. Its going to split the PVP ruleset.
>>585421289Yeah maybe in those 12 days he might have one of his queues pop before forever launches.
>>585421467>It’s 5 wasted points in group contentyou get to play the minigame of trying to snipe last hits, think of it as bonus content
>Anons see this and still roll hordeLmfao, KEK even
>>585421493Arent you gonna be using lacerate constantly and want that 3 less rage cost, or will bears be drowning in rage?
>>585421557its so over. once forever dies it will be the end of blizzard.
>>585419534>only good if fights last longer than 2 minutes.Is that uncommon in nilla?
>>585421389I don't think the extra point in rip and tear is better than 3/3 thick hide. Bear threat is already extremely good. That 2% damage on bleeding targets aint worth it.
>>585419534How do you figure? If a skelf arcane mage were to burn through all their mana in 40 seconds, use the racial while getting an innervate and continue casting, how would they not benefit if the encounter were <2 min?
>>585421526Isn't that a good thing? Do you have any idea how overpopulated all three rulesets are going to be in the vanilla world? Are you pro-sharting?
>>585421559Elwynn is boring and no amount of sunshafts will change that
>>585421083Easier to find dungeon groups as a druid but once you get to endgame there's way more druid than there are locks.
>>585421694I dont want dead ruleset a few months in
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hvvj5p5oGwIDad gamers, do we agree with this ranking?
>>585421717lmao
Guys what can I play for 2 weeks?!
>>585421559I've played alliance since vanilla. I want to try something new for once.
heard you blizzdrone tranny bitch niggers came, again, to bootlick and swallow another variation of garbage
>>585421389nta but is maul even used at all as a high level bear? it looks like i should spending excess rage on lacerate if anything
>>585420746this is my general purpose feral wpvp/farming build at 60, I vibed it over 30 seconds just now so I'm not married to itfeel free to be constructive or just shit on me idc
>>585421759Each ruleset in forever probably has the population of like 10+ classic servers. Pop wont be an issue on any of them, even hardcore.
>>585421717In a fantasy world full of interesting places, you need a "boring" zone to come back to. Home.This is why Elwynn, Dun Morogh and Mulgore are the best starting zones.
>>585421795what should we play instead, anon?what are you playing? :^)
warlock finna pump
>>585421759>he thinks any of the rulesets are going to be deadThe only way they die is if the game goes to shit and everyone unsubs
>>585421761>open vid>avoid warrior since it is difficult to level>close vidYeah their script was made by AI.
>>585421860>what are you playing? :^)nothing i have a job and after work i sleep or browse on the phone.
>>585421767Even in this screenshot you have weird spiky trees, quillboar vines, a castle with an invading enemy, a horde outpost. It's orange and eye raping but it's far more interesting
>>585421582>13% crit from talents>9% dodge from talents (10% if night elf)>5 extra rage every crit and dodgeYou can sit there using an ability every gcd without isssue. I had nearly unlimited rage even without the dodge talent in beta after they fixed the rage from being hit and added extra base rage from crits. I have no doubt druid will be constantly rage capped as long as you're pulling 3+ mobs or fighting a boss.
>>585421719The plus 3% crit is not enough of an incentive to gimp yourself into putting 2 dps druids in your group. You're better off just putting another war and mage/lock in the group. The only way for it to be worth your while is for the druids/SP to be perfect in its rotation. But that's very unlikely to happen IMHO.
>>585421767Omfg... PTSD. Imagine playing that for 400hrs
>>585421972>i have a jobI am so sorry.
>>585421859*and Zephra's Isle
>>585421653>use the racial while getting an innervateWhos casting inmervate on a mage? Lol feral druids need innervate for themselves because of shifting power, and moonkins aint sharing it with you.You better stock up on flasks to get that 2000 mana back.
>>585421972goodest goy
Just me or does rogue have the most viable/fun specs possible out of all the classes.
>>585421559Why not stay in Dun Murogh and level there?
>>585422131>>585422073not everyone can collect autism bux
>>585422142Because they all 3 do essentially the same thing but with a different generator and/or spender
>>585421767this fucking garbage was raping my eyes on my PC since i turn HDR on my OLED for every game (like God intended), what were they thinking? do they assume everyone is still using 2018 IPS panels? it literally give you eye cancer
>>585421809>wpvp feral>no stun>takes primal biteRetard.
>>585421559>HD modelsI cacchinate
>>585422142rogue is the best class in vanilla/classic because it is the class that everyone has the most high-emotion memories about and thus lives in people's heads rent-free. a warrior or hunter kills you and it's all whatever that's what they do but rogues do it from behind and it's filthy and aggravating and everyone hates them. it's literally the best.
Which class has the best 60m buff?
>>585422226>1st world wigga is flexing to thirdieslol dude alright
>>585422335paladin
>>585422142It does. I hope it won't be the usual boring combat faggotry again if we wish to at least perform decently.
>Hunter>Secure raid spot with tranq>Dont care about parsing too much>Let all the anal melee dps who spend 1000g on raid consumables speed run me through the weekly snore>By a a winter squid or two for optics>sub 2 hr run>the 30 melee dps having an e-drama meltdown after raid after one item from the loot table all 30 of them split was arbitrarily handed out (he was the GMs femboy e-bf)>Get 4 GS pieces and Rhok funneled to me as the only hunter>Step into un’goro>murder two ally warriors at onceYeppers
>>585419584It’s already been solved. Look into Warhammer: Age of Reckoning
>>585422242I could take or leave primal bite, is it not your only instant in bear? I could conceivably take out primal bite and one point in rend and tear for 2/2 stunyou don't have to be so abrasive btw
>>585422410>>Secure raid spot with tranqanon...
>>>/v/750238953
>>585422336a 1080p oled is less than $300 me thinks, how is that 1st world no i dont know a 1080p oled but still, theres no reason not to try one at this point
>>585422410No one wants hunters. You provide nothing to the raid, and they're going to make calm beast have the same effect as tranq shot.
which faction has the coziest 30-60 leveling routes?
>>585422410Unless you're in a guild already you're going to have a rough time getting a spot as a hunt
>>585422335Priest for leveling Paladin for max levels. Being able to nearly double someone's hp is more valuable for leveling than boosting their damage by like 5-10%.
>>585422335Specifically just the 60m ones? Paladin. Best raid buff in general? Windfury totem and nothing else even comes close.
>>585422428Lacerate is at 42.
>>585422439>>585422476Sorry that was just the last 20 years, we’ll see how this one goes
>>585422486Alliance.Horde is cucked out of badlands and searing gorge due to long flight paths.
>>585422476They WILL design mechanics that require tranq, traps, sap, sheep, sleep!We will get back utility roles and requirements to flex!Pure parserfaggotry is OVER.
>>585421796yeah you just spam mangle on cd then dump with and lacerate and swipe.
>>58542248630-40 probably Horde, which is a shift from earlier levels where Alliance is better.40- onwards there isn't much difference.
>>585422476Every guild has like 1-2 hunters for Tranq, ranged pulling shit and kiting mechanics.
>>585422632Horde will want to do the wetlands dungeon around lvl 25~ and can go get the badlands flight point once they are done.
>Its the night of Dec 4th>The great gnashing of teeth begins>85% of whats left of /wowfg/ has been denied a raid spot to Barrow>The general is inflames with lamenting and threats of quitting
>playing with open world pvp without being a stealth or at least range class??????????????????
>>585422606oh yeah lacerate, I have no druid experience past 30 btwI'll just swap the 2 talents I mentioned then and call it good
>>585422762Faerie fire is instant cast.
>>585422798I'm in a /vg/ guild, I'm guaranteed a spot
>>585422798I'm a priest, I'm guaranteed a spot
>>585422865>you THINK youre guaranteed a spot… fuck meat…
>>585422759STV right? and whats the Horde 20-30, still Barrens? i only know Duskwood for Ally
>>585422798What’s your group gonna look like big boi?
Paladin is the safest class choice.
Why shouldn't wow forever have blue elves when everyone was okay with adding cars, trucks, and skateboards?
>>585423050Its gonna look like me pugging raids in retail :^)
>>585423117why is he in azshara while wearing tbc dungeon set
>>585423006>and whats the Horde 20-30They have a lot of options>southern barrens>thousand needles>stonetalon>ashenvale>hillsbrad
any comfy RP-PVE wowfg guilds? also, do you discriminate against content creators / streamers even if theyre tiny/niche?
>>585423178They were fighting nefarian. Idk man its wow forever
>>585423247Im really tiny too
>>585423006After Barrens it's Ashenvale and Thousand Needles, both contested zones especially Ashenvale which most night elves go to.Meanwhile Alliance just goes Redridge-Duskwood-Wetlands with basically no Horde presence.
>Want to play Shaman>Can't farm gold>Class NEEDS gear to work>Still get oneshot by Rogues>Kited by every clothie>Putting down totem removed 95% of your manaWhy am I going to do this to myself?
Everybody does the same shit 30-40.STV and desolate. Horde get to do the thousand needles chains to have more shit in the other zones so there is that in their favor.40-50Is tanaris, feral as and hinterlands. Hinterlands notoriously was amazing for horde and shit for alliance. Feralas is also pretty lame for alliance annd has them so a bunch of chickenshit just for less quests and horde get extra tanaris quests than horde.50-60 is essentially identical for both sides. BS perhaps better for alliance.Of course all of this will be different now and Alliance will probably get like 8 Jintha quests now too.
>>585421767This is the ideal zone. You might not like it, but this is what peak aesthetics looks like.
>>585423353You like the class fantasy or maybe like lightning.
Stop RIGHT where you are and tell me how you're going to spend your legacy points.
>>585423353For that sweet sweet windfury proc...
>>585423279i havent even started but i do want to flex my creative side with wow forever and RP shit, bc im tired of playing like a degenerate parser or pvper in vidyas (i still like doing bgs)>>585423324this hasnt been true for the entirety of the beta, redridge is full of horde gank squads 24/7, its not a safe zone for alliance unlike Barrens even though they share level
are you excited for 5000 new fetch quests, anon? blizzard spent a lot of claude tokens to create those quests so you better be
>>585423168That’s what I thought.
>>585422242primal bite is essential for wpvp too, brainlet
I miss those people from Project Epoch, will Gorth play?
>>585421767sovl...
>>585423480You thought I was a handsome Retail Chad? Why thankyou :)
>>585423467There was some horde people on Redridge when the cap was 20. Didn't see a single one once it was raised to 30.I expect to never see any horde there when the game is out.
>>585423580I didn’t get the faerie fire post
>>585423474ai generated radiant daily quest system when?
>>585423482this was my initial impression of it, it was quite good in pvp since going bear felt essential when fighting enh shamans or other meleeso take primal bite, only go 1/5 rend and tear for 2/2 brutal impact?
>>585423686they are waiting for the next claude model to create a sharding system that isn't complete garbage, the current one wasn't able to tackle the problem, after they fix that issue they can do that
>mfw first <FUN HAVERS> raidhttps://files.catbox.moe/zwdyhn.webm
>>585423467>this hasnt been true for the entirety of the beta, redridge is full of horde gank squads 24/7, its not a safe zone for alliance unlike Barrens even though they share levelThe barrens isn't hordes redridge. When you play alliance you go elwynn > westfall > redridge / duskwoodWhen you play horde you go durotar > barrens > stonetalon / ashenvaleEach of those third stops are contested.
Do you think they'll do any stories with Anduin in WoW Forever's alternate timeline?
any other AGP anons want to play on launch? nelfies ofc**no actual trannies**
wow forever has BIG PROBLEMShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNLt3V7eHds
>>585424115He will have sex with the dragon
>>585424115He's gonna be a kid for the entirety of Forever's lifetime.
>>585424131are st8 cishet also fine? I want to be your human male
>>585424115We won't kill onyxia because she will be pregnant with his child.
can you just buy skelves, reserve a name then refund? i assume you can also make a skelf but it wouldnt be playable on launch
>>585424209yes please...I'd love to heal you
So I plan to be a male skelf druid on Roleplay. How likely will I be able to find a lonely girl failure that would roleplay an undead who replaced their missing jaw with an onahole for me to use?
Unfortunately on the 4th November morning, my grandma will be passing away for the 37th time. And her funeral service will be held in another country 2 days later, which will require me to travel there beforehand. Thank you WoW community for your condolences. It would really mean a lot for my family if you guys all could attend the service.
>skipped the beta because only a retard would play a beta and ruin a game like thisYUUUUPPPP hot pockets, pizza rolls and mountain dew getting stocked up, get in boys we're going timetravelin'
>>585424248You could but seems a bit silly unless you really want a name like John Warcraft
>>585423354Let’s be real the best part of the game is 1-30
>>585424018You're playing a healing shaman?
horde gets THRALLalliance gets this absolute loser
>>585424217I think you mean he'll be pregnant with her child.
>>585416143
>>585424151I like this guy, Madseason is absolutely insufferable. Wille actually has a brain
>>585424248nobody is gonna take your name. and if you tried to steal someone else's name then you're too late.
>>585423474Is there any confirmation of AI at all
>>585424261What's your name?
i might as well use this free time in some other good vidya
>>585424556I feel like madseason has gotten retarded over the years
>>585424696picture unrelated
>>585424548
>its replying to itself because nobody's taking its baitLolLmao
>>585424548How big is sally?
>>585424830in a perfect world, she'd claim to be 5'2" but actually be 4'11"
>>585424743you might just not like vidya anon
>>585424151this guy sounds like a huge faggot, I couldn't watch the entire video
Grim, the wowg spammer is killing this place too
>>585425064Nah man come on. Don’t be like that.Those games just aren’t all that. Don’t bully the other guy Quit being such a twitch chatter
If you do not enjoy shit like SM spellcleave or SM meleecleave groups I've got some bad news for you about what the raid composition meta will look like for endgame. With most raids only being 10 or 20 man the meta is going to be focusing your comp on either physical or spell damage. There are far too many unique raid buffs to ideally fit them all in a 20 man and especially not 10 man, so funneling everything into 1 damage type is going to be ideal. There will also be a ton more use from debuff proc weapons like Nightfall and may even reach the point where healers are expected to bring these weps.It doesn't matter how easy or hard the raids end up being, this WILL be the meta everyone gravitates towards. Just giving you all a fair warning.
>>585425175The raids are gonna be easy therefore you can bring anything you want. Hope this helps.
>>585425250Vanilla raids are also easy and yet everyone stacked warriors. The difficulty doesn't matter when specific comps make the run go way faster.
what class/spec for a recovering cuck porn addict
>How are you spending your time waiting?I AM THE deep state
>>585424757
>>585425367Ohohoho https://youtu.be/VWz6cYXuKGM
>>585425336This. People minmax the fun out of the game which is why the meta of wanting multiple of different classes like 4 druids and shamans was a good thing, now its just going to be all one dps and a handful of healers and two tanks.
>>585425361male human paladin
>>585425303I'll add you near launch
>>585424830damn, they really changed her unique pale skinshe used to be much more goth
>>585424727He acts low energy, but he's clearly a cocky asshole and generally narcissistic. I split my time over the years between wow, runescape2, and OSRS so I've watched a mix of his content, like his "blind" OSRS and general wow stuff as a result, and it's clear he would just be the most insufferable asshole to be around in person.
>>585425175Sister, you're bringing over a retail mindset to a game that is specifically removed from Retail. Horizontal progression necessitates an ease of gameplay that calls back to the vanilla/BC/WotLK style raids of the past that people could just show up to half in greens. I expect housing in WoWfF I expect paid slutmogs in WoWF. I do not expect difficult raids in WoWF as it's diametrically opposed to the entire philosophy of the game.
I was going to play this with friends but I just heard that they made it so you HAVE to quest to level up all the way to 60?? What the fuck is even that??
>>585425523okay ^.^
>>585425336Raids in retail are hard and we usually just brought whatever and still got CE.
>>585425538the told you so thing is just bizarre to me. everyone he’s telling that too would have already agreed with him back then so what is the point? Bullying your own audience?I’ve been getting bad feelings from him. Wolf in sheep’s clothing stuff. I stopped watching
>>585425446
>>585424151This was fucking stupid, isn't half the point of "forever" that it's going to be around "forever" so you don't have to spend every waking moment in it and you're free to dip in and out as you see fit.
>>585425667Retails dead and you take whoever because theres no one else to pick from, they all just hold the auto rotation button anyway.
>>585425580Group composition faggotry gets way worse the further back you go. Retail brings 1 of each class to the raid and they are good to go. Vanilla and by extension Forever you want to stack only the most busted spec and have everyone who isn't that busted dps be giving them buffs.
>>585425175that pic really showcases the ridiculousness of melee in certain boss fightslike yeah that dual wielding elf is gonna do tons of damage to uhh a bunch of ethereal lava mist
>>585425623in the beta i did 13-30 dungeons only. didnt seem THAT bad, maybe it wouldnt feel so good if 30 was not the cap
>>585425453Many of the posters here are not prepared for an endgame far worse than retail. They will have their hopes and dreams crushed.
>>585425790cope
>>585424151The only person I can tolerate is Bigmusk but even he left a bad taste in my mouth with how much he argued that the retail assets in Forever werent retail. What a fucking retard.
>>585425810WoW Classic, yeah, but everything in WoWF is so buffed that you really wont need that. And besides, I actually raided in vanilla and we did shit like AQ40 with ~35 people because we couldn't FIND people who were attuned to the damn thing. I'm expecting WoWF to shake the sweaty habits of classic that eventually lead to it's death.
>>585425790Alright bro, breathe, I know I mentioned retail but you can relax and not start foaming at the mouth immediately.
>>585425993It was like that in SoD and people were autistic faggots about group composition for no reason
>>585425752Yeah, he doesn't understand the appeal of like 99% of the people coming back to the game. He looks at it from the perspective of a content creator who has no job and all he does is make videos talking about stuff to do in the game.People coming back to forever want to be able to get to 60, get their pre bis, do some raids, take a break, come back and still be able to do the new content without basically starting from scratch doing all that shit over again.
you always see enemies first and last names right?
>>585425993>unc blud thinks his vanilla experience is akin to modern autismo only gayming
When did you first fall in love with sally?
>>585425361How did you quit?
I've never played the OG warcraft games since I've never really liked RTS games but this is as good a time as any to play them. Do I need to play 1 and 2 to play three (I mean, I know I don't but) but does it help? is there any lore i'd really miss out on in 1 and 2?
i don't know why they're intent on making arms warrior so shitty
You guys realize if I join a guild and they are chill I don't have to deal with all the faggotry you guys are talking about right? Yeah our raids are gonna take longer. So what?
>>585426118Before they kept censoring her and then decensored her but gave her a weird tranny face in exchange. This is to say only Vanilla Whitemane.
>>585425745>>585424757No pubic hair spilling out...?
>>585426196I dont know why warriors refuse to ever equip a shield.
>>585426193Warcraft 1 and 2 are a lot lighter on the lore than 3.In 2, the base game campaigns are basically mirrors of each other and only the human campaign is canon.I personally never played 1.
>>585426116I will make it so through sheer force of autism.>>585426037SoD was weird. WoWF seems to have actually grabbed the old crowd enough that poopsockers will be pushed to the wayside--I hope.>>585426118It's crazy that you can tell someone is mtf trans just by their AI slop.
>>585426356fury is still broken dps, nigger.
tranny spam
>>585426384>SoD was weird. WoWF seems to have actually grabbed the old crowd enough that poopsockers will be pushed to the wayside--I hope.you say this based entirely on the small group of hyper blizzard loyalists who paid $30-80 to play a beta lol
>>585426193Like almost all wow lore comes from 3. Some 2 . The further you get from TFT the more it’s just cute references and less real lore
>>585426193you can can with 3
>>585426407So you STILL wont equip a shield, huh?
Do people like druids? :D
>>585426356jeets lose izzat if they arent dpsing, they feel like a bitch if they put on the shield
Why does this general have such rampant aislop spam? I haven't seen any other generals, except for the other wow ones with this much slop.
retail raiding is like playing tranny dance dance revolution with red circles
>>585426484No they are the second most oppressed class of people next to hunters
>>585426470there's only 2 tanks for 20 people in raids. more warriors will have to unequip the shield than not
>>585426270Well if events line up between wc3 and vanilla she took her pants off
>>585426484they seem quite popular this time aroundif that translates to being likeable we'll have to see
>>585426556no bro you dont get it its super hard to run around and not stand in all the glowing shit on the ground and everyone dies if one of the 40 people steps into the purple zone when he has the 3 stacks of this one specific debuff bro
>>585426583what the fuck is that thing on the left
>>585426384thats what you said in vanilla and you dropped the game eventually, history repeats itself
>>585426583>shoehorned into a wc3 expansion that came 20 years after WoW
>>585426437I say this based on my experience outside of this site and the beta. My cousin who quit in cata prepatch preordered the beta. My coworker who played vanilla in BC when the Southpark episode came out asked me about it (I have a WoW tattoo that I regret but don't want to cover up so it's just there.) I actually think blizzard is probably shitting themselves from how much interest WoWF got, desu, it seems to have breached MMO containment in way WoW hasn't done in over two decades.
>>585426384That picture isn't ai what are you talking about retard>>585426692Play the foresaken kingdom. It really made me feel good as a undead player.
>I won't be able to tank because every guild already has two tanks
>>585426583The left is the worst of both worlds (censored+tranny face). I dont know why they continue to censor the game when its been proven that women like (to play as) sexy women.
>>585426758I think you're in for a very rude awakening lol especially once you hit max level and people have nothing to do but grind dungeons and raids again.
>>585426519I was watching the price is right and every single contestant there was obviously old, but also had a AI shirt on. old people love AI
I wish priests could wear bucklers
>>585426794can't even reply directly because you're a stupid pussy
>>585426771Sorry your art is so directionless and tasteless I just associated it with soulless slop.>>585426720I never played classic. I know blizz killed a huge private server and tried to provide a shitty, paid alternative. WoWF feels different than that.
>>585424151>RestedXP has the best levelling guides in WOW FOREVERhilarious to see faggots like this having the audacity to make a "problems" video while he's actively advertising the very things that make the game worse
>>585426968>I have such bad discernment and taste that I can't determine what is AI and what isn't, this is your faultkek foids aren't sending their best
Is it stupid to play a class for one spell? Even if you like everything else about another...
>>585426951I didn't even read the thread, I just posted that schizo. What's your post so I can read it faggot.
>>585426837Id take you seriously if you weren't obsessed with trannies. What i want to know is why her voice became terrible. https://youtu.be/3K-om9ZlKJ0
>>585427080Yes
>>585427080which spell?
>>585426372>>585426445>>585426451thanks. I'll upgrade to the forever collection to save 30 bucks on reforged
>>585427083My bad
>>585427132eye of kilrogg
>>585427051Use sponsorskip
>>585427080yeah probably unless it's some kind of self soothe / trauma response i guess. what spell is it, molested anon?
>>585427197baka
>>585427051I got your best leveling guide>Dun Morogh>Loch Modan>Wetlands>Arathi Highlands>The HinterlandsFinish with Wintersprings or Western Plaguelands--either one is fine as neither is dwarf-centric.
>>585426968How can you see this >>585426118And think it looks like ai generated >>585425745You are a complete retard or a troll. Tell me does this look ai to you as well? Kys
1-3 warlock4-6 shaman7-9 mage0 paladin
>>585427080>>585427132>>585427197
>>585427172No I wanna see your post now!!
>>585427118Yeah, it sounds awful. Actual Whitemane had a cute feminine voice, repellant to the trannies at Blizz.
>>585427201he's talking about the description/commentyou also completely blew past anon's point
>>585427197123
>>585427286I'm so sorry bro...
>>585426193Be aware that Warcraft 2 can be quite hard and, I think, beyond the dark portal can be as well. Good luck bro and enjoy some great rts history. Then enjoy seeing some of that in Forever.
>>585427051Really makes you realize how fucking awful a lot of people are at the game. Vanilla/Classic had some blatantly annoying gaps that Forever has seemingly offset entirely with the abundance of new quests, but the way people treat it makes it seem like they want NOTHING to do with leveling at all despite these same assholes always obsessing over how great the 1-60 journey was makes them look like clowns.
>>585427132Real poster here. Its super duper mega retarded but nobody understand my autism. Fortitude and Divine Spirit. I have this retarded hobby in WoW of just standing around in towns and hubs and just buffing people because I know just how much it helps with leveling, even more so now that all the major buffs are 60m long. But the thing is I dont really like Priest. I like everything about Druid but MOTW isnt nearly as impactful for helping people level. I guess Paladin might work too but then you have to juggle like 3 buffs depending on what each person wants when you see them. GRAHHHHHHHHHH.
>>585427201>implying I am watching his trashI get an AI to summarise videos for me now to deny these jews a view. My point is this fucking retard has plastered an ad for a paid levelling addon in both the pinned comment and his video description, and then he wants to complain about the game not being pure and that the extra quests make levelling too fast and people will quickly run out of things to do? lol, lmao even
Does imorph let you turn into draeneis or belfs in forever? I don't think I can handle looking at a dwarf shaman for long...
Don't care if I do less damage than an auto attacking hunter, I'm still bringing the boom.Cope and seethe raid leaders.
>>585427080I'm heavily considering Priest just because of PoM. I was also considering Druid just because of that .5 GCD reduction.
>>585427314>trannies at blizzard Trannies give us dark ranger cleavage? Wtf I love trannies
Is the cave behind the water fall under the Loch Modan dam new?
>>585427051>>585427269elwynn mogs the dwarven lands. The flat terrain makes travel faster and finding gathering nodes much much easier.
>>585427231See>>585427418
>>585427270There is no difference between gooner slop and AI slop, it's all functionally the same even if it's posted by a different flavor of retard.>>585427076It's Friday and I'm a wagie, I wont apologize for drinking and shitposting.
>>585427425Yeah I didn't really read what you said first time I just wanted to help so you don't see ads.
>>585427461dont let that fool you, druids and priests will both suck because healing in modern wow is nothing like it was in early wow. Everybody gets topped up in one heal, HoTs might get 1 tick of healing at most, PoM will almost never get a full proc of healing. It will all be useless garbage
>>585427418Honestly I think you're underestimating how good MotW and thorns are! Definitely cozy to get those buffs.
>>585427418You can just blessing of kings everyone on paladin. I'll take that shit over anything else
>>585427418motw isn't as impactful for leveling? nigga what? some classes couldn't give less of a fuck about your fort buff, meanwhile every class in the game is happy to get mark (+ thorns fwiw)
>>585427512>a woman's ass being fat makes it ai generatedYou have no brain functions
>>585427418I do the same thing on my hardcore priest it is surprisingly comfy and people are very thankful
>>585427418Maybe you could just main druid and save up some gear and money for a priest alt. Since you wouldnt need to bother gearing it up once it hits level 60 that shouldnt be too bad. Then you can just login to the alt when you have nothing important to do on main.
>>585427570So you wouldnt recommend Priest then?
>All this sallypostingYou guys are ready for the disappointment when they don't do anything special with her and she stays as a final boss in a leveling dungeon, right?
>>585427576Thorns would be busted if it was 30 minutes, let alone 60. I wish they had increased it too.
>>585427692priest is great but PoM will be useless you will just be using standard heals, same with paladin. On shaman you will probably use chain heal. That is about the extent of diversity in healing in modern wow development
>>585427613Giving someone 50-100% more hp is a hell of a lot more impactful than increasing someone's damage by like 5-10%
>>585427702Did she do anything in SoD? I know New Avalon is basically how it was in the DK starting area in Forever.
>>585427702They are gonna sell her tmog set in the cash shop
>>585427338imma slap your shit
>>585422410vanilla hunter was peak but now they're the new warriors
>>585427702>when they don't do anything special with her and she stays as a final boss in a leveling dungeonAnd I hope it stays that way. I dont want modern Blizz ruining her. Forsaken Kingdom already showed what they would do.
>>585427583Isnt kings kinda weak until max level? I think people like might/wisdom more until at least 50.
>>585427782Not really if they are never in a threat of dying to begin with
>random 1-off dungeon boss that is only popular because cute voice and hot>how do we ruin this
>>585427782maybe in hardcore, but in current speed leveling age paladin buffs being 60 minutes are kinda crazy now buffing people with kings 10% stats for some classes is insane I'd much rather have dmg then hp for leveling in pve
>>585427782nopegive fort to a leveling hunter and watch him get literally zero value out of itin fact if someone stays above the health that which fort gives, it's zero valuemark ALWAYS gives value to EVERYONE
>>585427702The only "special" thing they need to do is make her have one new voice line and id be satisfied
>>585427782>50-100%>Thinking kill time doesn't mean just as much if not more for staying alive while leveling or that the flat armor from MOTW doesn't work well on clothiesGet a load of this guy.
>>585427782Thats opportunity cost though. Someone with fort can afford to pull 2-3 mobs when they normally wouldnt or would have to run away if they accidentally pulled them. I mean sure in a perfect world damage buffs are better than health/defense but we dont live in a perfect world.
>>585427641>A woman's ass being fat for no other reason than to make blood go into penis is a waste of bandwidthftfy faggot. If you're going to post lewd art at least make it pulpy and interesting instead of boring, flat art made for porn addicts.
why do all the new sets have multiple color variants? are set bonuses going to be different?
>>585423354This is what I want from a wide leveling experience, 4 big routes out of early game, 4 big routes 50-60 since your choices will be determined by pre gearing at that point anyway.And then atleast 8 or so major paths from like 28-54
>>585425851but muh Broxxigar
>>585428038something about unlocking dyes with reputations
>>585428038they are adding 3 different difficulties like in retail
If i wanted to go around only purging buffs off people would a priest or shaman be more ideal?
>>585427890Shes not entirely one off though is she. Shes the most popular 5 man dungeon boss besides baron rivendare? She showed up as well in tbc as a kid. And again in MoP. Even if it was kinda shit.
>>585428086Shaman
>>585427702I wish you could be able to level rep with the scarlet crusade the same way you can do it with the bloodsail buccaneers. I don't even need many rewards, maybe just a tabard and a title.
How much time is left for the tranny spam shift
This is your #1 DPS for tonight, say something nice about her.
>>585427939Unless someone is decked in all dungeon blues I think MOTW gives more stats than kings would to most players in questing gear. Of course kings is way better at max level though.
>>585428097>because
>>585427978>man sees a hint of curvature of ass and begins seething instantly You're retarded and a faggot. Do a flip.
>>585425993all i ever wanted was to get a Hapa face model for fem humans like your pic but they never did it bc they're woke as fuckthey'd rather put gorillas and goblinas rather than cute phenotypes like russians and hapas
>>585428176>her
>>585428176i would play belves if they looked cool like this. instead they're frail twig bitches
>>585428176She looks like she has a cock bigger than mine
>>585428097Sure, but I think the point he's making is she was near impossible to fuck up because of how simple the appeal was, but they still managed to do so because blizzard makes the most brain dead choices when it comes to changing anything about characters.
>0-2 Druid>3-5 Warrior>6-8 Warlock>9 I refund the game and go do something else.
>>585428256it's a w*man btw which explains the retarded opinions and penis envy
>>585428176Remember when elves were lithe and svelte and not built like brick shithouses?
>>585428365Its faggot behavior to doompost about a hypothetical thing to seethe about anyway
>>585428084does this change the stats of each set?
Are we finally going to get satyr as a $30 playable race?
>>585428489he's wrong
>>585428038Real answer is transmog.
>>585428489Yes, the harder the difficulty the better the gear, It's already been confirmed by the fat retard dev
We need a nice quiet place to discuss the game away from all the mentally ill tranny slop spammersI know where we could go, this place is dead >>585393906
>>585428192I had like 70+ stats in everything level 20 if I recall when I stopped in forever, I was decently geared though I guess. rank 3 is only 4 stats at lvl 20.
>>585416790She's gotta be the town's bicycle
>>585428565What?Man I don’t think I like wow anymore…Why can’t they just make a straight up video game an rpg with a long campaign and a level cap of 60
Okay thank you for calming my stat buff autism on this issue I am no longer feeling like I have to play Priest. I'll look into Paladin since I like it too, but ill probably main druid...
>>585428639Because they need to give you incentive to subscribe Forever™
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585428639anon you're being psyopped
>>585426519
>>585428579They nerfed almost all of the early dungeon items.
>>585428749ALEXENSUAL RUNS FROM LEVEL 17 HUNTERS
>>585428639They should lower the level cap to 50 but make you get talent points at level 2. They should decrease the drop rate of all desirable gear and make their itemization worse. I want to see level 30s in white gear
So is everyone just doing a 180 and going alliance now? What happened?
>>585428749Nobody knows who that is.
>>585428862Asmond announced hes going alliance
They need to make more scarlet crusade quests in general. Didn't see anybody mention any in forever
What ruleset are we rolling?
>>585428898The SC are problematic
>>585428956Scourge PVE
>>585428898You should be able to join them if you get the tabard drop
>>585428987Sure but why dont they get more quests about defeating them if we are back in a new timeline where they're a major threat?
>>585428898is there even any reason to do SM as alliance especially on pvp server it just doesn't seem worth
>>585428797*slams desk*
>>585428797actually he ran to the lvl 17 hunter
>>585428639Kek i hope you're not actually this retarded.The real reason is for off pieces of gear. Like a boss drops a pair of plate gloves with spell damage and the plate gloves happen to have the warrior T1 model but colored red.Instead of just individually making a red glove tint when needed, they paint the whole set red as a color variant so they can just grab whatever model they want when needed, like gloves. They do this with multiple colors for every set so they have a nice little database to choose from for stuff in the future.
>>585429115Mogs
>>585428176Not in the game, built like a dumptruck, and also holding that longsword incorrectly.
>>585429115Exp obviously. Its also a fine way to grief as it's a long trip for them
>>585429115some great drops and great quests
>>585428862You not read the patch notes? They nerfed several Horde racials and giga buffed all the Alliance. Everyone is going Alliance now for better racials in both pve and pvp.
God I hope I feel like I'm 14 again, even for a couple hours come November 4th
>>585428038So far as i can tell these are sets you can buy from a crafting vendor in Hyjal, and there are horde/alliance variantsNot sure if that means 1 set is from the raid and 1 from crafting for each faction or if it's 1 from crafting one from something else (possibly the dungeon tier set?)
>min-maxing cuntsftfy
>>585429251What if I like my women built like dumptrucks?
>>585428898they added the scarlet enclave area
what's the most fun healing spec? i was thinking either resto druid or one of the priest specs but am not sure
Can I ask you guys a question? In all honesty how are you guys when it comes to lust and impulse? Has it caused you any problems?
>>585429071There's an entire chunk of EPL that got carved out with what was more scarlet stuff before. Chances are they will be at some point unless it's prep for something like death knights later.
>>585429631shaman unironically
>>585429653I'm pretty good at controlling it. I'm not a full on gooner that's for sure.
>>585429427too many people are missing for me to feel like that
Why can't we have brain chip immersive MMOS like in anime...
>>585429726because the chips will get hacked and you'll wake up with big bazongas and a fat pussy
So how long until they add a Trading Post store and slutmogs?
>>585429653If retail is any indication, tons
Does anyone have the Horde Forever RestedXP guide? or know a place that does
>>585429726Japan can't make a single good MMO why the fuck would anyone trust them to put a chip of one in their head?
>>585429653i have never had an issue with that. the only exception is a time i drank too much free alcohol at a wedding and nearly died
>>585429680really? chain heal spam even with riptide added now sounds boring to me. only thing about shaman that i like the sound of is kicking casters with earth shock in dungeon groups.
>>585429836that sounds cooli want that >.<
>>585429726Ever seen Overlord? I like the idea of that system
>>585429859Drow women.Also they shouldnt. That sounds kinda retail idk
>>585429879>pick up quests>look at your map>go to the questing spots>do the questsI just gave you the entire guide for free
Guys, what if the magic wears out by the 4th? What if beta was the highlight and everyone just stops caring?
>>585429859if there are cosmetic only sets, you should have to earn them not buy them with mtx coins
>>585429946Some kino tastes friend
>>585429946What I'd do for a lamprey minion
>>585429879>go to zone>do quest>run the dungeon for quest rewards>go to another zone>repeatIs it really that hard to do without a guide?
>>585430005>>585430201unemployim like me need to get 60 in the first week of release, so I need to do it faster than you two uncles
>>585430005>>585430201what if you find a quest that doesnt tell you where to go
>>585430201You don't understand! I NEED to get held up on 1 quest for 2 hours because every other fag with the same addon as me is doing it!
>>585430285Anyone using restedxp is NOT gonna be hitting 60 faster than people with a functional brain who know how to plan 3 steps ahead on their own.
tfw still dont know what faction to play at launch
>>585430291never happened
I’m so ADD retarded I end up with 40 quests in every zone. I just run around until I find a quest that interests me
>>585430135The system the author made is actually interesting too
when did wow lore become unredeemable?i think it's when they took the literal who guy from stormwind castle and someone said "there must always be a lich king" and then he became the lich king
Why are people asking about rested exp, are they stupid? Just log out in a city or inn. Like you've never played the game before.
>>585428862>Nerfed horde racials>Buffed alliance racials>Going way overboard on compensating alliance for the horde leveling bias in vanilla
>>585430570>they took the literal who guy from stormwind castle and someone said "there must always be a lich king"Thats pretty much when it died for me.
>>585430570>when did wow lore become unredeemable?
>>585430570Kael Thas and Illidan boss fightBlood elves joining the horde Tauren becoming gay
>>585430428you are retarded, I got top100 fastest 60 on HC anniversary without having any HC experience and having only played classic once 5 years prior.The addon plans 4 steps ahead
>>585430570yeah it was exactly during that cinematic, arthas' death was the end. you press escape or close the tab or do whatever else right before bolvar shows up and consider the story complete
>>585430570>literal whohe was a key NPC during WotlK, not a random at all, also someone with ties to Kul Tiras
>>585430570As with most of wow's problems. WOTLK set up the impetus for a LOT of stupid bullshit. I love WOTLK but I'm not about to pretend it wasn't the largest tipping point.
>>585430570Idk i kinda dig this design for some reason... also his quests in legion were funny. >Dks go fucking kill red dragons and knights of the silver hand lmao
>>585428862>pvp tournament picked Horde because they could only do the event on 1 faction>devs are retarded mongoloids who thought this meant Horde racials where super duper overpowered>proceeds to overbuff the Alliance racials right before launch
>>585430570pandaria, for obvious reasons
>>585430570when night elf bodytype2 could become druids
>>585429631Nu-Druid is great fun.>Actual AoE>Omen procs on spells>Spammable almost free wrath
>>585430894Metzen compromising on this was the beginning of the end
>>585427483But it's not a winter wonderland (until they add seasons to wow)
>>585430201DOOOOOOD YOU DON'T GET IT DOOOODI WANT TO SMOKE WEED AND TURN MY BRAIN OFF DOOOOOOOOD SOME OF US HAVE JOBS DOOOOOOOOD
>>585430570Forsaken joining the horde instead of being a seperate faction of undead human/elves trying to find their own place in the world. Nelves joining the alliance. Nelf female druids. Nelf male priests. Undead priests. Basically Vanilla. Though if we consider that not lore rape, then TBC.
the hype died off sharply. what went wrong?
>>585431167GIVE, Horde's was better tho.
>>585430473They added quests like this.There is one in Westfall from a robot wreckage and one in Barrens.
Imagine dying to a rogue gnome
how many of you do all the quest in a zoneit feels like i'm missing out on content if I don't do every single quest I come across
>>585431327What about a dwarf rogue?
They should make the snowstorms and sandstorms have adverse effects that force players to seek shelter and use the camp system
>>585431147I really think night elf and undead could have worked as a faction from wc3. Obviously rewriting the undead to not be retarded evil for no reason. The fact the writers didn’t understand what the difference between forsaken and scourge was really shows and it hurts the entire faction and the horde narratively.
https://x.com/jonzzy/status/2113699223703060850/video/1?s=61
>>585430570Unironically TBC>blood elves joined the horde despite orcs sieging their city in the 2nd war>retconned drenai>Kael became a joke
WarCraft 3 was the end, Frozen Throne was already shitting up the lore to try and continue the storyVanilla WoW was fine, everything after was pretty badInstead of piling terrible on top of bad, there should have been games and content made from the prequel eras with the increased level of technology that was being pumped outInstead they ruined the entire aesthetic and art style of the franchise and retail is some granny tranny disney dog shit
>>585431372>rogue using a mace
they would release patch notes if they do updates between now and launch right
>>585431327Look how cute this guy is, makes me want to make a gnome rogue
So I didn't buy the beta but the barbershop is in forever right along with the genderswap? I only ask this cause I'm a terminal gooner but I keep it a secret from my friend i.e. I love to look at my femlae character and then fap to them. But if the bros find out I'm like this i'm worried so I need to be able to swtich from male to female on a whim.
>>585431623the one downside to playing alliance is never being able to kill gnomes
>>585431447The blood elf thing is so insane and smart asses pointing out garithos is retarded when the elves literally founded the alliance to kill orcs taught the humans magic to kill trolls and the elves learned that garithos was being manipulated by a dread lord So one possessed guy burned a bridge so bad the elves who live long enough to have been genociding trolls since before the first war joined the horde because racism even though they’d be guaranteed to face far worse racism from orcs and trolls. Because they love sylvanas so much I guess
>>585431609i always roll mace spec rogue. undead with iron foe is awesome
>>585431623>>585431687I never got the gnome hate. My first character was a gnome rogue that I made look like frodo
The profession limit should be removed and you should have to unlock Grandmaster tier crafting skills via a long quest chain and at least 3000 gold to craft level 60 gear.
Blizzard proving everyone right who said they are too incompetent to do a WarCraft 4 because the first thing they do in Foresaken Kingdoms is add an undead paladin
>>585431687punt*
>>585431359I never played vanilla, so during Anniversary I tried to do every quest (besides the starter zone ones) and instance before they turned grey. While it would be faster to just play normally and return to them when I had a mount or was level 60, I feel like that'd lessen your attachment to certain places if I could just finish a zone in an hour or two. I wouldn't do that for alts though. I'm worried that I might overlevel zones with all the new quests, so I may just leave some to do properly on an alt, then go back to them on my main
Why are there so many fucking lazy healers playing this game? If the tank doesnt need healing at least auto attack or something. Even worse if its a priest not wanding.
Post femla- I mean femgnomes
After the last update, everytime I logged in the game was empty. Layering really ruined everything
>>585431948They're mad about getting mogged by a midget
bros i'm getting REALLY worried that some steamer scum will roll RP-PVP and fuck everything for everyone elsewe've got enough with the discord irl doxxers and tranny/larpers that coordinate pvp griefing already
>>585432110Will you let me need ironfoe as priest if you want me to attack?
>>585432246This, I hate it
>>585430291kys add-on selling rmt marketing faggot just google it for two seconds while you're autorunning and that's it
>>585431948People get mad when they're killed by them, they feel immaculated
>>585431963>the proffession limit should be removedNo, but the gathering proffessions should be allowed for everyone like fishing/first aid/cookingIf it costs 3k in mats to get grandmaster then the gear better be on par with whatever the current raid tier is. Or better (but making getting even basic bitch gear difficult).>>585431762Is it better or worse than the head of the Blood Elf paladin order torturing a Naa'ru to satiate their drug addiction.
BLADES OF LIGHT
>>585432457>MUH JOURNEY NOT DESTINATION!!!111!!!!1!1!
>>585432469It’s the opposite actually, I know the gnome is a metadata and it’s nelf where I feel raped when they kill me.
>>585432013Undead Paladin is all part of what the woke retailslop writer's grand plan. It's the cancer bridge from retail to classic storywise. If you play retail you just know.
>>585430570Low key?Burning Crusade when they made Kael'thas/Vashj/Illidan go full retard just to be raid bosses. Also flying mounts. Also making every instance a single hallway.High key is WOTLK with Arthas showing up every zone and acting like fucking Doctor Claw
Some people can enjoy speedrunning you know.
>>585432542How is Gnome meta? The nelf CD is way stronger for burst than eureka. Night Elves get 10% crit
>>585432640retailfaggot, this game isn't for you
>>585432512How does SM have more personality and lore than end game dungeons in vanilla
>>585432818the leveling IS the main attraction, what do u mean
>>585432110not my job to dps
>>585432534>all the add-on buying sheep get stuck like lemmings in the in the same questing hubs because they're ordered by the add-on to go there while I just level and go where I want and generally go quest in places I enjoy
I'm going to order some Chinese, load up Forever, and slowly read every quest dialog as I join groups for quests. Pick flowers and brew potions as I go
>>585432859?
>>585433039I kneel...
>>585433039based, what's your takeout order
>>585428749>>585428797
>>585428898she's dead and covered, anontime to move on
>>585433052i'm saying they put their heart and soul into SM because that's what they were more interested in, the Vanilla raids feel like mandatory things that they had to make just to call it an MMO
What if i RP as a mythological creature that doesn't speakI will tank your dungeon but I lack the ability to communicate with human language
>>585433085Yangzhou with friend rice, with mushrooms. Side of bok choy salad with oyster sauce and the wanton soup.
>>585433284Would be kino on RP as tauren. I think some people would love it, while some would complain and not invite. You'd have to rely on the ping and mark system a lot.
https://youtu.be/QvbYyseSIvQ
>>585428898True Classic+ would let you join Scarlet Crusade as a 3rd faction for flavor.Sadly we're playing Forever which is just Classic 1.1
>>585433205I wasn’t talking about raids
>>585433284you could text *emote* as a 3rd person narrator"the mighty minotaur huffs heavily and signals his companions that he'll move to the left of the room and to follow his lead"
>>585433486my bad, yeah but those dungeons are tie-ins to the raids, they've always felt rushed and poorly designed at least to methere's nothing less interesting than fucking ogre stone buildings, caves, and dwarves in dwarf cave buildings, they're so shit and lack any soulSFK mogs them all with 1/10 of the content
>>585433116>non Canon retailslop Lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvbYyseSIvQTurns out blizzard was just lying about banning people for buying gold. They just made all those numbers up, and gave a slap on the wrist to streamers who did it to cover it up.
>>585433617I agree. I have so many more and better memories of SFK and SM despite running BRD and LBRS way more.
what's the incentive for not buying gold?
The Onyxia fight will end at 1% HP in Forever.Anduin will walk in and realize all the whelps and eggs as his children and rightful heirs to the Stormwind throne.Onyxia will submit and be the new queen of Stormwind. The first 'phase' of Forever will end with Katrana Prestor and Anduin Wrynn's wedding.
>>585433401>some would complain and not invite.Everyone's desperate for a tank so they'll have to put up with my bullshit >*snorts*
>>585433617>>585433796the game really peaks at the level 1-30 experience let’s be real. finishing cath might as well be the end of the game
>>585433897How would you tell someone you wanted into a party?
>>585433428This but the twilights hammer
>>585433816farming gold is one of the few things to do in the game.
>>585434018That's for Horde.
>>585434071Hmm no. I want to fuck these guys as well.
>>585433980Group finder Or hang out at the dungeon entrance and emote at people
>>585433816what's the incentive for not paying a bvll to fuck your wife?
>>585416730this but warlock
I cant resists the stupid blue elf mana regen for my Druid.. even if it doesnt have any interaction outside of spirit based regen its so much fucking mana over a 5 min fightBut then i gotta deal with 2x as many shamans on horde
>>585434804Can you AI slop her to be tanned or have brown hair?
>>585433935Now that i think about it thats when i quit classic in 2019, and i was a fucking aoe mage powerleveler for the first time ever so speed wasnt the issueThe game went from comfy to STV to slowly turning everything into troll and ogre and dwarf "architecture", it literally sucked the life out of the worldThey missed the mark by not doing anything purely night elf, orc or human without corruptions related, and the "human" zone sucked so fucking much (arathi highlands)
>>585434852only ally druids get mana regen skill
>>585434804needs tanlines.
ahem.rogues will not be invited to any of my dungeons or raids. All leather gear can go to the feral, hunters, and enhance. The one handed weapons will go to me.
>>585434804need to see her butthole
>>585434852do 5 minute fights really matter to anyone in this game tho
>>585435308BASEDTOTAL NON DRUID LEATHER DEATHShamans can wear robes
>>585435283I know i mean ill have to deal with 2x as many Purges in pvp if i choose alliance>>5854353715 min is just a random number since no one knows fight duration. but over longer fights its more valuable
>>585430570>all these replies for early woe historyJesus christ you must all be women with how much you're acting hysterical. If you want a point where writing-side it actually became irredeemably bad and not just "i dont like this", then any answer that isn't late BfA going into SL is the wrong one
>>585431762do you actually not understand how a human general sending the last remnants of a race on a suicide mission then ordering their execution to effectively make them near extinct would bite hard enough during their time in the outlands that maybe they come out of it with a different perspective. I don't remember garrithos being influenced during the missions where he tries to get them killed either.
>>585434804HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY
>>585433621>the DK storyline in Legion>slopThat chain was easily one of the best things in Legion, and the game NEVER follows up on it in later shit
>>58543519230-45 is a slogit starts picking up in the late 40s and stays pretty cool all the way to 60 imo
>>585435308Avoid hunters in that case, little freaks are going to be going after every weapon they can except maces.
>>585435616cope
I hope everyone has a lot of fun playing WoW Forever and finds fun party members and good guilds to raid and do BGs with.
>>585435839Riveting rebuttal
>>585435806DKs taking a knee to Bolvar was the stupidest shit imaginable when the entire point was them breaking free of having any masters in the same manner as the forsaken.
>>585435910>wrath had good lore because i played it as a kidfuck off
>>585435667Dude they joined the same team as the orcs and horde and undead. Nothing justifies that
>>585434804Like half the red Dragonflight comes out of that pussy.
>>585436010Wrath has bad parts, sure. They overplayed the LK to compensate for Illidan barely being in TBC and as a result acts like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. But it didn't ruin the lore forever in a way the writers were never able to salvage, that came a decade later.
>>585435865His life is falling apart as we speak (write)
>>585435815my problem with 40-60 is that half the areas look like this
>>585436168lost in the wastelands kino...
>>585435941Remaking the Four Horsemen made sense considering the Legion invasion. What i question was their choices in who to recruit.
>>585435806Because that's not Sally >doesn't use light anymore dispite a "light" using dk already existed >armor completely changes to look nowhere near as recognizable as her scarlet self>got sent to the maw despite doing nothing wrong >doesn't even hit on another Mograine
>>585436168late leveling zones have tons of kino>feralas>felwood>searing gorge and burning steppes>winterspring>eastern and western plaguelands>un'goro crateryes badlands and the blasted lands are eye sores but you don't have to do them
>>585435941>free of having any masters in the same manner as the forsakenHave you played a forsken or really any horde character?
>>585436420Do you really expect the people spouting retarded shit in here to have any basis whatsoever
>>585435109>>585435292
hype is dead huh
>>585433621True. Miss me with that retail fanfiction slop.I want the TRVE Forever canon
>>585436573>>585434804>You will never be a giant female lizard whose greatest ecstasy in life is getting constantly bred and birthing hundreds of babies in a non-stop cycleThe entire concept of Alexstrasza is sex. Fuck Metzen for censoring her. She should be walking around in underwear to give her male consorts easier access for faster breeding.
>>585436573DAMN
>>585436573wew lad
>>585436408>feralasLike>felwoodNot bad>searing gorge and burning steppesNot bad>winterspringKino>eastern and western plaguelandsUgly>un'goro craterFun
>>585436573now give her a useless boyclit thats too small to get hard
>>585424618>>585424373niggas gon swoon when they see Dark Goku, Undead Paladin
I wanted rppvp, but now I think it's a bad idea unless Blizzard takes action.>splits up the rp playerbasethis isn't so much an issue if the game stays big, but if it slows down like classic it can become an annoyance.>faction locksthis all but confirms people who want to play both horde and alliance on pvp will infest the rp server with no regard for the rpers, so Blizzard needs to fuck off with this faction lock shit and just let people create both (lest we get another crusader strike scenario)>faction balancethey will force faction balance sure, but even on classic when they did this almost every pvp server became one faction. if horde starts winning every encounter on pvp all the alliance will start flocking to rppvp instead which further ensures rppvp is fuckedThe server wont be DoA, but it will be fucked unimaginably within a year if things dont change
Is Engi/Enchanting the best PvP combo?
My name of Death killerman going to be taken....
>>585416601PvE because i don't have the time to enjoy getting ganked by the sweaty rushers and deal with them.On PvP i am quite sure i would end up dropping this game in less than 2 weeks while levellingRolling on PvP is something to do months down the line with less people around being annoying
>>585437143this is why im leaning towards rp-pvelike you said faction lock invites pvp neckbeards to roll the opposite faction just out of necessity, without even liking RP
So if it's fine for streamers to circumvent the ToS with restedxp and other paid addon functionality then why should I get banned for commissioning AI art from my good friend Xi Pangyao and then him sending me 100,000 gold just to be a good friend?
>>585436573Reminder that Chromie CHOOSES the form of a little dwarf girl
>>585423353>>Can't farm goldEvery class can>>Putting down totem removed 95% of your manahave you consider doing what blizzard intend shaman to be with the battle mage theme and start using more INT?You are not reliant on windfury that much anymore and you want to include more spellcasting into your melee rotation now
>>585437365There are two pvp servers for ALL of NA, chances of a population imbalance are slim
>>585436980https://files.catbox.moe/hzwrgx.png>>585437143rpvp is a meme
>>585437143faction lock is the only way to enforce faction balance. Otherwise people will just create a bunch of level 1 alts for the other faction so they can freely pile onto the faction they actually want to play.
>>585437616>dwarfGnome, I meant
>enjoy the stress test so much can't wait for more>try classic for the first time just to have something to do until the 4th>accidently join dead Australia server>30 mins into LFG for deadmines still nothingjesus christ
>>585437650nice
Which race and class do you think she's playing?
Can i tank as a Tauren shaman
>>585437830human priest>>585437926cant tank raids
Speaking of shaman now that the totems are raid wide and can't stack 2 of each element together (can't windfury+air grace) how the fuck it will work out for them in raid?Literally ONLY 1 Shaman in a 40 man group at best because why ever bring more than 1 when you can 't stack multiple totems of the same elementAnd of course the 1 shaman in 40 man HAS TO be Resto btw
>>585437143no one is touching the rppvp server. its a total meme that blizz fell for.
>>585438049You can get WF and goa now at least
>>585421559Yeah, looks too safe and boring. No feeld of adventure.
>>585437183yea but have fun being broke
>>585438118no you can't.Grace of Air totem overwrites windfury totem
>>585435865The opposite for me I hope this goes as horrible as possible for all you reddit tourists.
>>585437635huh? isnt it the other way around?most big streamers are rolling alliance, we already saw that asmongold alone tilted the PvP server 56 to 44, it'll be even worse now that ppl are getting fed contentslop claiming Alliance is brokenthose horde purists will just give up and go to RP-PVP instead, the imbalance is clear as day
ohmy godis that >>585421767 HORDE zones?ahhhahahahhaahhah oh my god do they really??
>>585438049Shaman is one of the most cucked class in foreverthey will played a lot on release but by the time the raids open 90% will have rerolled a less cucked class
>>585437926No.
what's more fun between mage and warlock?
>>585437650could you make her pull her knees up to her chest with a bratty look on her face?
>>585438354most shaman players will not make it to 60 even because they are legit one of the worst levelling class now that dungeon are worthless exp
>>585438397mage is more fun 99% of the timewarlock is more fun if you're completely geared out at 60 and kill people in one global as destro
>>585438397Mage.The very only version of the game, including every single classic+ ever made, where warlock is more fun is in MoP.
>>585438176they changed it when they made them raid wide so you can benefit from both from 2 different shamans
>>585438528i am sure you can't benefit from them together in a 5man group though
>>585438049>>585438176That's a blizzard being really retarded problem. WF+GoA should work if you have 2 shamans, but be mutually exclusive if a single shaman tries to twist them. There's only 9 classes so there's room for 2 of each in a typical 20 man. Unless some future class contests the raw agility buff so shaman only ever want to drop windfury eventually. I guess 10 mans would be the point of contention they're being really autistic about though.
>>585438587You can, flametongue is what doesnt stack.
>>585438636that's how it is, and twisting isn't a thing because wf totem is no longer a 10s buff
Nelf Warrior vs Human
>10mshould be reserved for things as difficult as BRS/Dire Maul>20mshould be the real raiding, up to wrath ulduar level of difficulty>40mspectacle raids/one shots like Ony/Archimonde/Magtheridon/EoE/OS with easier mechanics, but feel like "big raid taking down big bad"If this isn't their philosophy then raiding is cooked
>>585428770>nu-LotGH remakePot calling the kettle back
very excited for two pvp rulesetsget to play alliance on rp-pvp like a sane individual and maybe roll an ogre or something on the regular pvp server when if and when new races launch>>585438954whichever one has better jiggle physics
>>585421767Finally some feel of adventure. Perfect.
>>585439009Everything should be difficult. You have Forever to git gud.
>>585438954Do you like spinny flips or big overhead swings? There's really no way to go wrong with warrior desu.If female then NElf.
>>58543900910m probably going to be modeled against Kara/ZA instead of UBRS
>>585439072*if and when new races launch
do people realize the pvp and pve server will have over million people online on them?
Is there any interesting build you can do in forever or have they ironed out the fun
>>585421767bodied that hordejeet
>>585439126Beer and pretzels my dude. No one wants to be forced to play with people they hate just because they are good and their friends are bad.With addons and the general playerbase level Ulduar difficulty is the perfect middleground of being hard enough to warrant prog and following mechanics strictly, but easy enough to get even your boomer parents into the raid. 10m being sweaty just makes raid comps retarded and 40m being sweaty with a lot of bosses just means no one will do them because it's a lot harder to convince 39 people to go prog for 4 hours instead of "come get this free loot after 10 minutes of effort."
Speaking of shaman. Would enhance be using fire nova single target, or is that just going to rape their mana? I don't expect anything to be that complex, but lightning bolt and fire nova included in the "rotation" seems like it could be just enough to feel like it has a bit more going on for mobs/bosses.
Every single raid should be 10m flex>scales up to 20 players on difficulty and loot>stops scaling after 20 players, but allows you to bring up to 40
>>585439368>Beer and pretzels my dudeZoomer scum like you dont deserve anything. Vanilla WoW was a hard game in its time and any iteration of it should emulate that.
Realistically, if you want to heal, you need to be a Priest. Shaman is a meme, and Pally is thematic but really ass. Retail sucks yes, but Envoker and Monk both tickle my pickle for healing
>>585439585It was a hard game because (You) were retarded and didn't know your dick from your balls.
>>585422410>murder two ally warriors at oncewas believable up until here
>>585439612But priest is boring and you’re a sitting duck for pvp the only game mode that matters
>>585439585Vanilla was hard because people were ignorant, ran the game at 15fps, didn't now what anything did, and thottbot comment speculation and word of mouth was the best they had before wowhead showed up. Stop pretending it was a matter of skill expression.
>>585439642Yes, and the game should replicate that as close as possible.
>>585416601Pvp is gonna be a shitshow beyond belief. If you fall behind the first wave you will get camped relentlessly
>>585432205https://litter.catbox.moe/09uzuf.mp4
>>585439072>>585439137NGL, the altrobe.com site has been pretty based to see everything side by side in motion99% going Fem Nelf
>>585439518you use everything you got in raids and chug mana pots and demonic runes
>blizz should change this in foreverbut have you remembered to check with the dadgamers who just want to chill?
>>585436168I like it. Kino orange.
can i setup the addon rn or need to wait until i can loginbecause p.server can
>>585439829I setup everything in the stress test
Ley Lines are gonna get nerfed Screenshot thisNo one wants their meta to be running to a leyline every 15 minutes to refresh your buff before getting summoned
>>585439930shut up its the worst racial in the game
>>585439678>PVPyou know one but sweaty autists bother with that, right?
just add more difficulties to dungeons and raids so the beer league casuals can fuck off to their own world and not ruin things for the rest of us.
>>585439924how do you copy paste that to live?
>>585439930You're right it should be 1hr duration
>>585438495like this?
>>585440057>ADDDDD MYTHING+ FOOOOOMMOOOOO TREADMILLFuck off back to Retail and wipe 500+ times over one guy 0.1 pixels too much on the left or because the boss dice rolled spawning a suicide bombers in one square he never spawned one for the last 300 pulls
>>585425446>debra wilsonwhat the fuck were they thinking
>>585440084dont have to do anything, the stress test is the launch client
>>585440173Tinystrasza should also practice the fellatio gesture
>>585440202>I want DIFFICULTY>n-no not real difficultypussy
I'm excited to see my friend after three years and complete a part of the Shikoku Henro I didn't finish before, and I'm excited to visit shops I like and get new figurines for my Kamen Rider collection, and I'm excited to try Fugu and spend time in Osaka and Kyoto and have fun and all thatBut I'm really fucking annoyed I don't get to play WoW Forever launch for two weeks until after it's launched.
>>585440057Casuals would pitch a fit if they couldn't get the best gear in the game by being semi afk at the back of the raid. Being able to watch something on the second monitor while playing is the entire point of the game for many classic casuals.
>>585440057The best option would be hidden objectives like Strat UD rather than a toggle from an NPC. I'd love if more dungeons had little features like that.
>>585440202adding heroic mode or whatever gives us both what we want. you can get your free welfare epics and I get to prog with my guild for increased rewards.
>>585440057True dood, also you forgot your image
>>585440173yeah that's good, thanks anonsimilar pose/expression but naked on her back would be good too
>>585440057this is classic wow, its meant to be casual. go play your dead retail slop game with all its "difficult" raids and dungeons no one wants to play.
>>585425667Retail classes are all relatively balanced. As long as you aren't stacking 12 of the worst dps in the game you will have no problems as long as people know how to play. Class stacking isn't as prevalent unless there is a patch that boosts 1 class at least 20% above the second best.
>>585440284>>585440057as much as I enjoyed TBC heroics, no I don't want split difficulties.if anything just add extremely difficult side bosses.
>>585440509>this is classic wowAnd it's been explicitly said by the devs it's not. Where do you actual retards come from
>>585440509>this is classic wow, its meant to be casualAnd yet Vanilla to this day has the longest gap between release and clear. "classic was meant to be casual" is 2019 revisionist history by shitters (you).
Forever will never get heroic or mythic, especially mythic and mythic+ because it would creep into Retail raid streaming business and blizzard doesn't want guilds like Method to have unauthorized streaming competition in a different game they can controlForever is literally designed to milk uncs wallet and will be maintained uncs and dadgamers friendly, foreverWant hardcore raiding? Play Retail t. Blizzard
is raids you can be afk through really such an intregral part of the spirit of vanilla? that is not how I remember raids being back in the day
>>585426771>play forsaken kingdomNot playing some OC donutsteel retcon slop with censored young whitemane with an old black woman voice thankshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWz6cYXuKGMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FguLIlc2MM>>585427118>What i want to know is why her voice became terriblereplaced Erica Lindbeck with the go-to DEI voice actor Debra Wilson
if you arent playing with a controller you are a tryharding loser
>>585440736controller babbies make me sick
>>585439748so many shitty sets but nelfs manage to make them look decent
>>585440717Holy shit she only had 20 seconds of voicelines and not even a cutscene. You are a fake sally whitemane fan.
>>585440457>picrelKEK there are so many trannies making their whole online persona about being trans. I don't mind trans people but this is weird, same goes for discord profiles. Probably all severe AGP cases.
>>585440057>>585440202i don't know why you idiots are complaining about dungeons and raids already. it's just gonna be like sod and the dungeons already shown. a copy pasted zone and a recolor boss with recolored mechanics. if you care about raids then you're literally a retard dad gaymer
>>585440782lmao this loser needs both of his keyboard and mouse to beat a casual dadgame from 20 year ago
>>585440881it's just not fun playing any game with a retarded toddler toy, at least for (me)
>>585440787Yeah, and their melee/weapons animations have so much energy too them.Shame for all plate, the helm will be hidden pretty much forever
>>585440787>tier 3 looks badTerrible take. Nobody says these look bad only the set bonuses are cheeks.
>>585440921yeah because you are dogshit
>>585440578based sloppa, what about the nelfie/sally onesho gens?
>>585427478yeah its for dorf shaman 20 quest
>>585440985it's impossible to not be dogshit if you use a controllerif you think otherwise you're simply delusional
>>585440782oh no the guy is pressing shadow bolt on his controller instead of on his keyboard!
>>585440782I'd never play with one, but FF14 proves controller can actually sustain complicated rotations and gcd cycles, so if anything just hope they copy that system so they don't compromise elsewhere with the perception you need a keyboard to handle 3-4 action bars with of skills when you don't. Anyone arguing otherwise has never actually seen what capabilities are actually there.
>>585441056I know, it's sickening>>585441075I don't care
>>585441040even women can beat hardcore wow as a warrior with a controller, shit is ez as fuckyou are probably the worst player who has ever posted on this general lmao
>>585432818>BRS: Massive dungeon, decent mob variety, plenty of lore, beloved by the playerbase>Scholomance: Large dungeon, plenty of lore, decent bosses BUT the Master's study just being 'kill like 5 mobs then the boss then leave and go to the next boss room' really brings it down>Stratholme, large but pretty boring dungeon, lots of trash that's non-elite which feels tedious, if you're going to have it feel like i'm slaughtering the undead there needs to be more and it needs to be actively coming towards us. Could be better if more is done with Balnazzar instead of him just calmly waiting for us, have him start turning crusaders into demons or something>Dire Maul; massive, good mob variety, great aesthetic, but it's all elven lore, which i mean after the last decade or so i can't say i'm surprised people aren't interested and on release (well when DM was released since it wasn't in at launch) It was new lore most probably didn't care about it since it didn't really pertain to anything in the warcraft games.Scarlet monastery on the other hand directly pertains to the warcraft games and as a large leveling dungeon in enemy territory it was something of a right of passage to die a bunch of times getting there. The dungeon itself I find meh since it's several wings of like 2 bosses each spread out over a way larger area than that deserves.
>>585440424>>585440678It's gaslighting by turbo casuals who get offended if someone in the game has better gear than them. Vanilla was all about hard content (relative to ability of the player of the day) and the rewards of clearing such content. The idea that easy "i just wanna chill bro" raids is integral to vanilla is absolute bull.
>>585430876cucksout horde favoritism for every tourney bit him in the ass
>>585440471https://litter.catbox.moe/k9s8hm.png
>>585441140pvebabs...we're getting humiliated out here...
>>585441140can? sureshould? noalso do you pvp?
>>585440782>>585441075I really like the controller Idea, I hope they will improve this shit even further. This is great, really great... especially for potential console ports. Imagine a Switch 2 port, Ps5/6 port and XSX / Helix port. Damn.. Imagine Xbox goypass x WoW Playtime. Dayum nigga.. that would be perfect.
mythic+ retail tranny pedophile samefag boasting about how superior it is dodging red circles on the ground, episode 347
>>585441278lulsounds goytastic
>>585441220people have gotten gladiator with a controllertop coping dude you are giga shitter
>>585427953it they do, youd get all her iconic lines revoiced by the granny VA from forsaken kingdom
is there a more insidious villain than the dadgamer who wants to shackle everyone else to his level because he just "wants to chill"
>>585441323can you answer my question?
>>585440929this is why i can't make up my mind between Skyborne or Nelf on one side i get a smooth leveling experience and thematic questing with a decent model while the other is the shittiest overal leveling zone but you get to be an amazonian elf that fits well in everything and has deep lore
I've always found it funny the people that shit on mythic+ or something similar don't actually critique the system, they just spiel out a flow of ad hominems insulting blizzard or the players as if they don't actually have a realistic point to prove.
>>585416601It's a shame that War Mode fixes every single problem that Forever's wPvP is 100% going to have and you can't get it because nillers don't actually want wPvP.You'd have a mode where DKs could be turned off, where 50% of fights don't end with the player you jumped rage AFKing, you'd have people actually trying to PvP instead of sheepishly ignoring each other so they can get their Elder Stranglethorn Tiger kills, etc. etc.Hell, you could probably fix Forever's fucked up layering system by changing some numbers around so people don't just disappear midfight like constantly happened in the beta.You'd have actual wPvP with people who are actively looking to wPvP, and you can't get it because literally all nillers want from wPvP is to camp the Wetlands boat until they get nodiffed, and then ghost until they hearth.
>>585441390ofc everyone farms honor to get ranks and gear from pvp
>>585439368>Beer and pretzelsI never heard of this game design analogy before thst podcast ep and I'm still not entirely sure what it means
>>585441446>It's a shame that War Mode fixes every single problemGo play retail if you want retail slop.
>>585441350Why?
>roll a healer>decide to run a dungeon>create a group in the group finder>instantly get bomarded with messages by thirsty incels>"50s-2g group invite fee, all greens reserved">invite only the most geared/highest level players who don't share my armor type>if anyone is not at the entrance, kick them and instareplace>get a free carry together with 2-8g and loads of greens to DE while hogging all the drops for myselfEZ game, EZ life.
>>585441184sexoooospread her legs and show the goods?
>>585441278>Dayum nigga..Niggers like you are why the game should be as prohibitively convoluted and unappealing to normies as is conceivably achievable
>>585441528dadgamers want to enjoy their beer, pretzels and wow forever after the workday
>>585441416Imho:Caster? SkyborneMelee/Hunter? NelfThink about what you want at endgame, if you aren't going to be alting
>>585441537said the man about to play some premo megaserver slop
>>585441446Warmode would only work if it had a very long CD (like a day or even a week) to force some level of commitment since pvp talents and the warmode bonuses have no place here. It's not the thing you could let be too flippant otherwise you would just turn it on when you wanted to fuck with people, then turn it off and fuck off yourself when you didn't want to deal with the consequences.
>>585432938All the non-rested xp users will go do Riverglades since it's new and will have new cool quests giving overtuned amounts of XP, while restedxp cucks all get ganked in STV since they all want the same mobs lmao
>>585441075how do healers target properly with a controller? or is it all aoe spells?
parse trannies should be forced to use a spreadsheet with a built in mirror
>>585441761restedxp players dont pvp, they just want to level as fast as possibleand no one is higher level than them so they never get ganked
>>585441604The unspoken second part of that dadgamer position is that they also want the best gear in the game from doing so, which is why the idea of heroic mode is so offensive to them. It would mean seeing other players in the game with better gear than themselves, which would rub it in their face that they dont have the skill or time for harder content. They basically want a safe space. They want the game to be their pacifier, and you are an evil elitist if you don't agree with this.
>>585427429yes but only the HD models because the SD ones got removed
>>585441850yeah they want the game to be easy but long, meaning it has a lot of stuff to do so they can just keep playing it, forever
>>585440881there's nothing superior about a controller. you probably think that playing on your couch with barely legible chat box from 20 feet away is the superior way to game. but that's because you don't have a $2500 herman miller with adjustable height desk and an ottoman foot rest to let you fully assume the 'that which has no life' premium gaming posture.
>>585441692>pvp talents and warmode bonusesYeah you just don't have those.You don't give it a cooldown because actively letting people opt-in in wPvP is *the point*.You don't *want* people in the wPvP map that don't want to wPvP; there is no one "fuck with" because they are also there because they want to fuck with you, at that specific moment.This is why nillers don't want War Mode; more people actively wanting to PvP them in wPvP is bad. They don't want wPvP, they want to gank lowbies and autorunners. This is objectively, observably the case.
>>585441616I like how you think but i dislike the height disparity amony my characters, this is why i only made nelves in retail since the only thing they couldnt be were shamans and paladins and that was covered by hot goatwomen their height
>>585442007>>585442007>>585442007
>>585429879>brainlet noshoes player wants an addon to do all the thinking for himchecks out tbhdesu, you can tell it's retarded since it's going horde after the racial changes
>>585442001I dont need the optimal gaming setup because Im not a shitter like you lmao
>>585441838Is rested xp actually any good. Has anyone tested?
>>585442048it works but it asks you to do weird retarded speed run shit like running to a corner and letting mobs kill you so you can spirit res and revive somewhere else to save time walking or be a blacksmith to make sharpening stones.
>>585442048yes its the fastest way to level, but you have to play a strong leveling class, or be really good at the game or have twink gear because it tells you to do some challenging stuff every now and thenofc you can skip steps if you dont want or cant do something but expect to have to grind extra mobs on your way, or run an extra dungeon, which is going to slow you down
>>585442009>>585441446
>>585442047you can't even read the zug zugs in chat while they teabag your dead body. trust me i know, i was once a poor college student. but we're all middle aged now and it's just sad that you can't afford anything better.
>>585442203>he is getting farmed by retarded no shoeslmao how can anyone be this bad? and with a top of the line 20k gaming setup no less hahaha??
>>585441581what? why?
>>585424525Pantied, dressed, and sissified by Onyxia.
