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First for elf pussy
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omg it migu
>he doesn't join <PIRATES> every time
>>585537450why are there no NA PVP alliance guilds
Bros...............I still cant choose between druid and paladin based purely on their buffs to give to people........
why doesn't blizzard believe in body type diversity wrt character creation
if i go mage can i even play pom pyro mage immediately or is that nax gear only
Why did the last thread get nuked....
Who wins in a fight? Reminder that sally is a top 4 priest in canon
>>585537758mod saw feet so she jerked off her clitty so hard she sprayed girlcum over her keyboard and it short circuited and the short circuit deleted the thread
>>585537758Feet
>>58553740912th for becoming elf pussy for anons to use
>>585537856Hate it when that happens.
>>585536264>>585536267dual spec feral/resto druid seems like a good alternative, but how does it fare in raids?>>585536369i mean doing both on the same toon
>>585537814priest is favored vs mages in duels
>>585537668strictly going off buffs, you'd go paladin. if someone already has a druid buff and you're a druid you're screwed. if someone has a paladin buff and you're a paladin you can just put up a second or third one
>>585537956>level 30 beta tournament
This is your shaman healer for tonight's level 60 dungeon spam. Say something nice about her.
>>585538043where did that come from? it's always been the case that priest dispels and heals wittle down the mage's mana
>>585538048why is her tummy so flatisnt she a bbw
>>585537986That is true. I'd have to think about what buffs to put on each person as they run by in time but thats a minigame in of itself. Are Paladins going to be more popular on Alliance due to having two choices, or Horde due to newness?
>>585537814If we're talking about actual lore then it's post Legion Jaina by a long shot. But since this is a 4chan thread then they both have sex or something idk
>>585538048I want to cum on her fleshbags. I mean, tits.
>>585538048the nose piercing acts as a helpful warning signal to drop group
Is troll priest BiS for pvp? Everyone says shadow guard blackout procs are really good but idk how reliable it is
>>585538205No dwarves are thick but actually thick not pre ozempic fat women trying to pretend they're not fat
>any criticism of endgame wow>cries of "iTs A sOcIaL gAmE, jUsT dO dIfFeReNt ThInGs!!"The problem with "well WoW is a social game" is it's pointless because FFXIV has already captured the "wants to use an MMO as a new version of Second Life" audience, they're not going to gravitate to WoW, they already have their game. WoW is there to cater to a different crowd
>>585538369ok now show her in hd graphics and lets see if shes a bbw or not
>>585538319>but idk how reliable it isabout 10% reliable
>>585537814And Jaina is the strongest mortal mage in canonNot even a contest
>>585538476That's objectively false, Queen Azshara was the strongest mage in canon (and is still alive in Forever) and is so far above everyone else that she made even gigauber mages like Aegwynn look like a fucking joke
If I want to follow along the wow lore up to where forever is (I think it's just right after wc3, right?) I should just play wc1/2/3?
>>585538476>Jaina is the strongest mage good things thats retoilet lore and doesnt apply to forever.
>>585538598She's not mortal you fucking retard.
>>585538602Forever is a pocket dimension during Midnight so you have to play up to and including that.
Blut ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-lZyBz1Hvwlass es rein, lass es raus, lass es rein, lass es raus
>>585538453Yea but like, say a rogue opens and stunlocks you, how often is it really going to save you in practice. 3 charges could fall off without a prof more often than not
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>585538602Yes.>WC1 Orc ending is canon but SOME events in Human campaign still happens>WC2 and its expansion both campaigns are canon but only the Human ending in the base canon, happens everything else in both campaigns happens though>WC3 is a linear narrative story so there's no competing canon
Is it silly to not get the prof tied to your armor class? Like say you did tailoring as paladin
are any cute players rolling alliance rppvp
>>585538761thanks anon>>585538683Almost got me you trickster. Except I wouldn't have done that cause I do know it's supposed to be an osrs style 'reset'.
>>585538664I'm sorry I assumed you meant that NE still count as mortal even if they live for thousands of years and that immortal was saved for shit like Titans and Old Gods
>>585538832we're all on pvp sis
>>585538805if you plan to try hard in pvp and raid or try and focus on making gold then no.
>>585538841Nah, Forever is a temporary pocket dimension, it will collapse in < 2 years.
What happend to the other thread? And why are there so many deleted messges.>Forever HypeForever Hype>Forever HypeForever Hype
>>585538926What should a Paladin get if they really wanted to keep enchanting? Is it viable to fund blacksmithing without mining?
YOU WILL summon me to the instanceYOU WILL pay me to tank for your class dungeon questYOU WILL pass all loot to my DPS friendsYOU WILL be replaced for pulling threatYOU WILL beg me to be on your friends listYOU WILL pay for my overpriced fish on the AHYOU WILL give me free flasksYOU WILL kneel before the main characters in WoW (Protection Warriors)
>>585538946Maybe, but I'll come to that road when I get to it, I'm not gonna spend $75 on modern wow expansions and a sub, plus I hear you can't actually play the expansions to catch up on the story, or rather, have to make a bunch of characters to do it since you get kicked out at a certain level. At that point I'd rather read through a wiki.,
>>585538805>tailoring as a paladinblud REALLY wants to put on the dress :skull:
>>585539006dude, do you have sentience? Are you an AI chatbot? How can you be so retarded?
>>585539017they'll think you're RMTing and ban you, bro. Be a better person.
>>585539019The real winning move is to ask /wowfg/ for specific lore summaries, then compare your replies and figure out which one is trustworthy.
Will I regret playing troll warlock? Or should I go orc or undead?
>>585538683Wrong doeRetail will become a doomed timeline after TLT, and Forever will be the timeline where things didn't go wrong
What professions are taking on your main?
clover club when
>>585539113Most people make gold in this game through gathering professions. Very few people make gathering specific alts. You cant grind out gold from just killing mobs and the very few spots you could the devs said they were nerfing.
>>585539019trying to play retail today as if it has any continuity with the original wow just makes it all a fever dream. the zones all level with you and molten core is like a level 10 instance
>>585539202Yea but how will this happen if everybody drops the game around Christmas? Checkmate atheist “happy holidays” mother fucker!
>>585539196Nice balls bro.
>>585539260I already know this retard.
>>585539006If you get some good rare recipes you dont need to go out mining anymore. You can just sit in town and make money to buy whatever mats you want
>>585539006All of the benefits of professions are tied to crafting, not gathering. It makes no sense to have a gathering profession on your main.
>>585537298Is forever going to have the lfg stuff that classic has right now? Other than waiting an hour for a group it was kinda nice. Also I'm so glad I quit before mop what the fuck is this talent system they have
I've been playing through Midnight as I wait... Why does no one talk in general chat in Retail? It's dead fucking silent outside the spam of the city or service channel
>>585539452no, retail is super fucking dead.
>>585539196make them bend over and spread ass in their thongs?
>>585539404The hundreds of hours spent making an alt specifically as a gatherer would be better suited just having the gathering prof on your main stockpiling as you level up. Like <1% of people actually have a gathering alt.
>>585539229>wand sissieskek
>>585539316
>>585539185Go check out wowhead's dressing room and compare 50+ gear sets between Troll / Orc / Undead. If you look at what your character is going to look like and can't stand it, then you know to save your time.If you're asking in regards to racials and performance, you as the player behind the character will account for 95% of your performance, while the racials will be minimal impact. Pick what you like the looks of, and what has QoL / niche appeal like trolls with their regen.
>>585539452retail is generally dead, yes. Most people are talking in discord instead, it's so solo-centered that unless you're doing +10s or higher it's not unreasonable to have people never ping, mark, or talk at all. My record was 3 days without seeing a single other human message (not counting gold sellers or chinese)
I watched a Frostadomus video and he said Enchanters can sell their enchants for the price of the mats. Has anyone actually done this or is everyone like me, you get the mats cheap on the AH and get an enchanter to enchant then give him 1g.
>>585539452>>585539602Nice misinformation, bro.Try actually using a populated server during peak hours instead of some dead server for an abandoned world region at 3am.
>>585539452Retail is not an MMO its a bunch of NPCs telling you what an amazing hero you are
Class and race for this feel?
>>585539229>rogue and shaman blacksmithsWho are they fooling
>>585539582do>>585539529
>>585539728This is somehow less gay than the original video.
>>585539728Undead Paladin
>>585539728Any race, any class WoW Forever
>>585539728undead rogue named barny beekeeper
What's the wowf meta to meet English speaking people if I'm from Europe? I refuse to be put into a concentration camp.
>>585539728Female nelf/skyborne druid
>>585539883Bro what happened to those people. There was another one too rightLike idk what makes someone do this. Im not even a right winger.
>>585539883Takes that retarded faggot 11 months to edit a single video
>>585539728fem human/nelf/orc/undead/troll/skelfwarrior/rogue/lock
>>585537665get on the roleplay train now
>>585539531I just buy gold, and buy the mats. I make ~$90 an hour at my job.
>>585539986hes too busy grooming kids on discord with his friend goon clown.
Chances of prot (warrior) being at least somewhat viable in pvp?
>>585540063>femnelf druid is safeagp sisters keep winning
>>585540176lol
really? no rp-pve guild? a general with your talent?
>>585539529too lewd.
bros.I can't wait. Should I just play the TBC Anniversary server until launch or will I burn myself out?
>>585540334spread femboimanes legs wide with a monster can hiding the bulge and make him all embarrassed
>>585540176>chances of prot (warrior) being at least somewhat viable in pvp?
>>585539229engineering+ something if I can be botheredI will probably go mining/skinning to start
>>585540334requesting barny stalking alliance kids or getting hung
>>585540176Ive seen warriors tanking pvp in big group fights , which is definitely something new
>>585539229Enchanting and tailoring on my priest.
What are crates and how do you get them? I assume it's a retail thing.
>>585540176Tanking isn't viable in pvp, which is why warrior is not a true hybrid class.
>>585539883>barny beekeeperwhy are you guys so obsessed with this troon and pint?
>>585540585You ask this every thread faggot
>>585540585they are skelf poopstry to catch them fresh
>>585539017ill kick you from my group desu. scrub.
Fishing bros.... We're going home
horny for forever
Are you guys pumped for all the 20-30 hour raid weeks youll have to do forever to keep up in WoW Forever?!
>no playable gobbos in foreverlame
If I play ally I'll be stuck going gnome for most of my characters because escape artist is too good
>>585541001trans gamer pov
>>585541001>pov: state mandated gobbo wife arrives
>>585540960no ill probably just play it a lot for 6 months then quit
I seriously cannot understand the appeal of playing undead, do people ACTUALLY like playing as those things? They're disgusting, or are people drawn to the racials that much? Are there fewer of the on PvE servers? I can understand the appeal of Orcs, Trolls and Tauren..
>>585541028if that's how you have fun
>>585540883If I see you on RP-Horde, fishing like that, you undead creature...I promise to drop the T2 fishing camp buff so we can catch pool-fish in the open and relax, fishing brother.
>>585541001no mage aoe either
>>585540430yes. it's what I'm doing.
>>585541140Yea thats the answer everybody whos being honest is giving, but more like 2 months.
>>585541154They’re the coolest race and I love tirisfal and UC it’s really comfy
>>585540492Thats what I was thinking. The new talents, particularly 4 min Shield Wall, really allow for warriors to not get immediately wrecked in pvp. 20 seconds off disarm, imp shield bash, and Concussion seem to be really good for disruption.
Wow forever is epic!!!!!!!
>>585540334dang. AI limitations or just don't feel like doing nudity?
>>585541164
>no dungeon spam levelingi can't believe that there are people that enjoy 111115 or 231111 around five thousand times to hit 60
Why do Elven women like Human men so much?
>gank sodapoppin and xaryu>blizzard bans your accountthe only winning move is to roll alliance..
>>585541381yeah most people who like classic wow like the leveling and not just raid logging.
>>585540883hmmmm deliciouscan't wait to sneak behind you and /wave while i take a fishing spot nearby
>>585540757This is my first time ever asking about these crates. Take your meds
>>585541381they play on pvp servers and just want to safely level so they can gank lowbies
Every single new addition to Forever (except shaders) is so absurdly low effort trash it makes you wonder what % of these threads are indian
You guys will mass drop the game after the first raid week, itll be an armageddon on this flashbang general.
>>585541539Has anyone made a list of what each big wow streamers playing on?
>>585541237>perpetually wet and mildewy forest and underground crypt filled with slime is comfyWhy are whored players like this
ERA IS THRIVING
>>585541786give it up brack
>>585541001So stupid they said they'd never put them in.Cannot believe we got blue fucking elves over them. They truly have no shame.
>>585537450>Discordless>finally some sane /wowfg/ gui...>RP-PvPnigger why
>>585541645
>>585541254I was targeting them as a hunter and basically not hurting them at all. My shots which could do 300-400 damage to other characters would hit prot warriors for under 100
>>585541940discords gay, rp-pvp is cool
>>585541978My file size is 119 KB. I ain't poor I don't play on a 17inch monitor.
>>585541506gnome women like human men even more
>>585540176Your being laughed at but if you can get a pocket healer in battlegrounds or in world PVP you'll be a complete nuisance.You probably will never be as effective as an arms warrior, but at least you won't be useless.
Class/race for this feel?https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1792889996591660.webm
>>585542126If youre not a big threat as a warr then people are just gonna target your healer and all your mitigation will be worthless
>>585541798Alliance>Sodapoppin, Pikaboo, Xaryu, Esfand, Ziqo, Payo, Summit, Shobek, Nmplol, Venruki, AmphyHorde>Savix, Soni
paypigs keep winning
>>585537450how many femanons are in clover club
>>585540176swifty has done some cool shit as prot
>>585542291b8
>>585542291this happened really
>>585542268Guess you really just gotta roll horde.
Is this mofo the hard counter to every class in the game?
>>585542291I took the bait for about 3 seconds while reading
>>585542291>we understand its not fair...but fuck those cocksuckers ami right?!
>>585540667did pint an hero too?
class/race for this feel?
>>585541769>the best new addition are shaders (?????)indian post
>>585542436if you're expecting to win every 1v1 as a warlock you're gonna have a bad time
>>585542436Nah, paly is.
>>585542436yes it's the 1v1 king at the cost of being mediocre in group pvp and generally unfun all around
im conflicted, do i go rppvp or pvp?
>>585542609do you RP?
>>585542491Tinker/Murloc
>>585542436yeah, its just the gayest way to play just spamming fear.
How likely is it that Prot Pally will get adjusted to be competitive with Prot Warrior?
How's resto shaman in group pvp?
>>585542491how fucking long is this
>>585542609How badly do you want to avoid streamers? Are you willing to play on a smaller pop server to avoid as many streamers as possible?
>>585542680It would need a complete redesign. The entire build is passive. It has non-existent single target threat, and barely regens mana unless being hit by multiple enemies.
What's the biggest thing the jews took from us with forever?
>>585539006>Is it viable to fund blacksmithing without mining?yes, because mats will be cheap af the first months
>>585542902my enjoyment of privates server
>>585542952Why would any material be cheap when deman is high?
>>585542902femuman jiggle
>>585542902The horde having no sissy races.
>>585539229does alch get anything fun this time around? engineering got a bunch of new toys and i feel like ill be missing out
>>585543010it's all models, not just human
>>585542291Just read about this on twitter, its real.
>>585542902It's been high elves since tbc, every other version has been warped in some way.
>>585542436why the FUCK did they make the warlock set MAGE-COLORED
>>585543127blood elves are literally high elves
>>585542812yes
>>585542902private servers
>>585543127Oh and Ogres>>585543209Corrupted vile elves
>>585542902My foreskin
>>585543313>Corrupted vile elvesby this logic orcs aren't orcs, only maghar are orcs
>>585542491undead warrior
>>585543390Amen brother, someone had to say, fel infused orc are not real orcs, literally changed their dna
>>585543390the magyar may have a silly and unique language but it's a bit much to call them orcs
WoW Forever? More like… Wow, you guys are fags, forever! xD
JERK OFF BEFORE POSTING HERE
>>585543554when are you slopfaggots going to kill yourselves
>>585543642While*
>>585542902Turtle wow... (But it was a creation of Magog)>>585542491None. >>585542658I would play that.
What's with all the shitskins spamming aislop and begging for slop in this general?
I don't care about sloppa technology but posting men is just gross, have some decency
I don't care about sloppa technology but posting sfw femboys is just gross, have some decency
>>585543083femdwarves still have jiggle
>>585543771Some people are becoming unhinged because of the wait
>>585543991it's not the same model
>gank clothcuck>rape her anally before I kill her>kill her>anally rape her corpse yep it's rogue time
>>585543771All the straight white male posters left after Blizzard removed the breast jiggle physics. /wowfg/ is now comprised entirely of trannies, homosexuals, and ass obsessed shitskins.
What’s a good class/race if I want to be extremely good at killing undead categorized mobs at the cost of all else
>>585544125I would have enjoyed this if you were a warrior or shaman but being a rogue hiding in stealth is giving me the ick..
>>585544256more like giving you the dick
I'm going to play rp pve because that's going to be the only server with normal people
>>585544162you're joking
>her You were fantasizing about raping a 300 pound 35 year old man. You are a gay sex pest.
>>585542709very good, especially if reincarnation is off CD they can be very annoying in clashes on AB
>>585544162that's paladin's entire conceit
Why is anal rape so much more kino than vaginal rape?
>>585544125>human racial>blink>frost nova>ice lance>dead orc>wait for my THICK HVMAN BVLL to come impregnate me on the hordecuck's corpsemany such cases
>>585544162Paladin Forsaken
>>585544431because you're gay
>>585544446>>human racial>>blinkblink already clears stun NOOB
>>585544125>>585544446You are both very much homosexual brown men.I hate that you're allowed to share the same internet as me.
what is the brazilian pizza of WoW
What race/class/server do i play if im a functional adult with a full time job?
>>585544648is that a spackle knife
>>585541769you like... the shaders?
>>585544648Druid
>>585544648
>>585544648Troll mage.
>>585542436not really
god damn this game really had some dogshit sets, didn't it? I think we're getting more of these rather than more dreadnought plate
>>585544648>>585544770What's so bad about this one
What those things called that sweats would use where they'd put in all their gear, hit generate, and it would show their DPS.I'm blanking on what that was called.
>>585544648is that a tuna and corn 'za?
>>585544930sims
Is Krol blade better than Mirah?
>>585544942no
>>585544996thank you
>>585544352RP pve having normal people is a reddit meme
>>585543554AAAAAAAAH
>>585544942i think it's chicken and cum
>>585544125Jeet post
>>585542902(((they))) tooked jiggle physics from us
"Lordaeron" tabard
What's going to be your grind fuel?
>>585544125>>585544446Why does Forlo attract jeets like these
>>585545259night elf futa cum
Thoughts on general abbendis?
This needs a buff, if we are removing dead racials like weapon specs>if you do not have engineering, you can use most explosives and gnomish engineering gadgets (at their usual failure rate) equal to 4+(3.7 x your level) this is 225 at lvl 60
>>585545370oh hey its assumi
>>585545259Water
>>585545370holy downgrade, that face on the left is way prettier
>>585541001gobbo not being a horde race in forever is nearly unforgiviable and is only forgiven if we get ogrescause like, damn dude
>>585545370and people will seriously tell you the HD models are better
>>585545469They should do the opposite and make all racials useless memes
what realm are the streamers not playing on
>>585545219Nigger shit
Prove you arent a touristhttps://lostgamer.io/guessr/maps/world-of-warcraft-classic?controls=nmpz
>>585542436*sheeps you**kills your pet**set up nuke**counterspell silence**kills u*:)
>>585545732rp pve and rp pvp
>>585545642But they’d never join the horde. I feel like you guys only think they belong because they’re green and usually tied with orcs in other games. But warcraft orcs and goblins couldn’t be more unrelated and culturally dissonant
>>585545370I never want to hear people say the "HD" models look better ever again.
>>585545675imo, this would be totally cool as well.
>>585545789you could of erped with him and it would be less gay then roleplaying pvping him.
>>585545235Couldn't they have gotten an artist that can produce classic level artwork?
>>585545782
>indians at work>indians at video gamesWill playing on the AliExpress server save me?>>585544352Yes and I recommend everyone from these threads to go there so I can enjoy pvp.
>>585545789mage creating a scenario in his head where he kills a warlock is hilarioust. mage main
>>585545125From my experience all the guilds I joined on rppve were all boomers and on rppvp i ran into tons of trannies and other mentally ills
pretty hell set on playing an orc shaman. Flirt with idea of making a troll shaman instead. Oh man, i might have too embrace the voodoo
>>585542436>Walks into fear range>Shoots>Walks out of fear range>*Cast failed. Target out of range.*>Walks into fear range>Shoots
>>585545782I got bamboozled and confused the coast of Westfall for the southern tip of tanarisshamfur dispray
>>585546174warlocks thinking they can spam fear because they watched the level 30 tournament without PvP trinkets is almost as hilarious
>>585545789>resist>resist>pet is raping your ass>charge up frostbolt>it takes 4 second>warlock is out>dot>dot>fear>rape>rape>silence>rape>rapeAhhhh yes, the old mage vs warlock
>>585539229Went for Alchemy/Herb back in classic, it was barely a money maker. I remember camping the black lotus for so many days, ton of hours wasted running back & forth for nothing, maybe 100g of lotus for every 6h running around.Did Mining to level BS, so much shekel made thanks to Arcane Crystal.The problem is that I'm going to play Priest and alchi could help while engi might be shit, I'm a jew and don't like wasting bomb during wpvp. (I could make a joke about a country getting bombed but CIAman is watching)Tailoring/Mining might be the solution.
>>585546328arcane crystals will be capped at 50 gold
>>585546307warlocks don't even have to fear you, you just diemage isn't doing shit to an SL lock with felhunter
>>585545782>>585546120>>585546172Weak
any paladins here? were you able to continue mining while having your bubble up and being attacked?
>>585545902I think they belong because they joined the horde in the 2nd war. and I don't mean all goblins, specifically steamweedle
>>585545782difficulty varies wildly based on whether it picks something right next to a landmark or a generic tree
>>585546307I'm literally a mage mainif you think you can just sheep the lock and kill the pet you've never actually played the matchuphis felhunter will devour the sheep. you will also not be killing a felhunter as a mage loltell me you don't play this game without telling me you don't play this game
>>585545789>mage thinking he can win against a warlock
>>585537298why are they philippino now
>>585545370
>>585546468>>585546631https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_otlsGIV44QKeep coping summon sissies, you'll be getting the arcane power special same as everyone else
>>585546403Shit I forgot that npc, it will be 45g-ish because of the AH jews undercutting
>>585546194Do trolls get unique looking totems?
>>585546551no move is a lot more consistent
>>585546740would you like me to post my epic pvp montage of killing frost mages as a warrior too
>>585546740>succubuslol
>le ebin 1v1 pvpuhh thats the wrong game for that bros
>>585546740>succ vs. mage
>>585546779yeah
why are pve babs so desperate to stop us from having fun
>>585546740congratulations you have killed the worst warlock in the entire game and that's no exxageration
>>585546540That’s a completely different horde than thralls horde though. The wc2 horde still exists too in wow. Goblins are selfish by nature. They benefit more by selling their tech to both sides
>>585546972Dang. Now I'm tempted to change my orc to troll shaman. Orc totems look kinda bad.
>>585547006pve babies want us to carry them through raids and dungeons since they know other pve babies can't actually play the game
>>585542491We were actually expected to believe this retarded bullshit and take it as fact.
>>585538476Does Meryl Felstorm count as mortal? If you ignore the nerf that is him acting as the prison to a Dreadlord that wielded Apocalypse that is. Dude fought and died in the Troll wars but then used pure Arcane to make himself undead some fucking how. So he's had 3000 years to perfect things.
>>585546723Lol
>>585546914>>585546916>>585546962>>585547030We'll see, I dont think people quite realise how busted some of arcane's new talents are
yeah yeah your pvp skills are so great or whatever now hurry up and summon my party warcuck
>>585547083https://youtu.be/oNIori4Kxes?t=675
>>585546192>rppvp i ran into tons of trannies and other mentally illsSo you're recommending it right?>Innovative national free>Fun people >Exciting gameplay
>>585547187That'll be 3g plus tip
>>585547275Man trolls get a unique looking totem for each element. Guess I'm rolling troll instead.
>>585547348>You have been removed from the group
>>585547401>You have been banned from the game for violating our ToS
>>585547354troll totems are bundles of sticks
>>585547083>>585547354For totems it goesTroll > Tauren > Dwarf > Skyborne >>>>>>>>> Orc
Access to PvPchads is not a human right.
>>585547401Whatre you a poorfag?
>>585547515literal faggots
WoW: Forever is NOT complete without more chance to stun on hit items
Is warrior aoe tanking still dogshit? I really dont want to play a cuckadin
>>585547718warrior tanking is great now if you actually spec prot
>>585547718Thunder Clap isnt Battle Stance anymore so no.
>>585547718The brown obsession with calling anything they don't like cuck will always bewilder me.
Is Druid going to be an overly populated class?
>>585547718No, warriors are the best cleave tank while druids are the best single target tank. Paladins just kind of suck at both while druids still do great cleave and warriors still do great single target.
>>585547718thorns hits for like 300 in raid gearthats all the aoe threat any class needs
>>585547752I wish they would add glad stance too i always want to don the shield
>>585546740its funny you use that pic because warlocks are the one class that cast more spells than mageby the time your first frostbolt lands the warlock has cast three instants
>>585547820No who the fuck wants to play druid
>>585548048>doesheknow.png
>>585548048Zoophiles.
>>585547976unless warlocks has a way to get their spells to 36 yards they wont outrange an arcane mage's sheep
will the streamer faggots please fuck off to horde. thank you.
>>585547354trolls have the best totems and male trolls have awesome casting animations. Raptors are top tier as well. Where trolls lack is they look stupid in most helms but aside from maybe orcs all horde races look bad in helms. With transmog, trolls will pull ahead because they REALLY benefit from wearing troll like gear and so you can always make them very thematic. If they allow ghost raptors in forever instead of wolf I would be very happy but beggers cant be choosers.
>>585548048This is retail lite, loads of people are going to pick druid just because it can do every role. They also come in blueberry elf flavor now
>>585548117any pvping mage will have that talentthe warlock will still rape you though assuming they are not dogshit
>>585547828Based just delete cuckadins entirely, drucucks too while we're at it.
I will be playing femhuman hpal with a femnelf warrior on launch
>>585548048trannies
>>585548180we'll see, I have faith in the new arcane talents, frost is a cuck spec
>>585545370Wow awful. I always thought Abbendis was super cute for being the leader of a bunch of zealots. The new one just looks horrible.
>>585548203you and your gf gonna be caged?
>>585548261Absolutely obsessed.
>>585548203i will be playing femsaken warlock alone on launch
>>585546723moar
>>585546740hmmmm
>>585548263based arcane fire enjoyer
Anyone else considering a troll warrior?Those regen racials seem pretty cool
>>585547820>>585548048>Druid is the only class I know how to play besides shamman (It's so bad that nobody notices I'm bad too) and hunter (I just sic pet and alt-tab).>I only play tauren female and male night elf>Rpvp Time to take unpaid leave to play wowf>>585548048Yes anon it's a niche class.
>>585548117The thing is the strongest thing sheep can do is reset. Pets dont allow you to reset and are usually too tanky to kill and then get a good resheep so you can eat/drink. And if the heartbeat wakes up the lock sooner you are just fucked.Mages did have the best chance against locks 1v1 in Classic, but teo players of equal skill with the same level of prep as each other and no mistakes made I think lock just edges mage out.
>>585548414I'd play troll on every class if they weren't hunchback and wore "normal" shoes
>playing a dps only cuck class yikes couldnt be me
>>585537298I still haven't settled on a main or even my faction. Or even the ruleset. I keep changing my mind!
>>585548419Actually Druid is looking like it will be pretty popular this time around. They gave a lot of QoL upgrades while being in forms
>>585548479I play a hybrid with all roles but I only dps
Didn't play the beta, waiting for full release.Someone rank the new dungeons.
>>585548523play alliance pve oce and you can plap me :3
>>585548305Yes they are. And we are going to keep reminding them over and over.
>>585548139Really wished male trolls weren't hunched back.
>>585548305let me hit
if you had damage meter installed you could tell hunter is top dps for wow forever levling its not even closeprobably gonna start as hunter for pvp and play a tank class after maybe pally
>>585548464>I'd play troll if they got rid of everything cool and iconic about troll
>>585548414Rolling troll for the regen is pointless because your end game gear isn't going to have any spirit on it.
>>585548558Well you better put on the dress and heal or youre not joining any of my groups
>>585548414I've strongly considered, the regen racials are apparently extremely strong at low levels but taper off as you get up around level 30ish. I just don't really like how male trolls look in a lot of plate gear, would be nice if they stood a little more upright and had a bit more muscle.
>>585548706everyone knows hunter is the strongest at levelingjoana's guide from 600 years ago knew this
>>585548364>fireNo we ball
Why does HD cover cleavage?
>>585548528But can I still claim the "it's niche so please be nice to me" card?
>>585548894why are you asking questions you know the answer to
>>585548931no, druid is no longer nichethe niche classes are mage and warlock
>>585548528Not to mention, both alliance and horde got the prettiest race model as an option for druids.people say that dwarf shamans are going to be rare, but I think tauren druids might become extinct,
>>585548887Arcane is too mana hungry fire is better
Why are the skelf racials so dogshit, for the paypiggy race I thought they would be a lot better
>>585548734Hunchback and feet out isn't cool when every horde class does it.
>>585549120they are bis on alliance for druid and mage
>>585548887>takes the dogshit intellect armor talent instead of 25% wand damagedidn't take long to confirm you were a mouthbreather
>>585549117That’s why you roll a gnome or Hosky
So have we come to a conclusion on which class got the most raped yet?
>I have a female alt because I like attractive women who show a little skin and are traditionally feminine>Oh so you're a tranny with a rotting crotch wound and a blown-out asshole>I like playing [Class] as my main but I also like dabbling in [Other Class] for specific niche content>Oh so you're a cuckold that enjoys watching Black men run a train on your wife/girlfriend>I play as [Faction] because it's what I started with years ago and now I feel a little too invested in it to try and make a bunch of alts for the [Other Faction]>Oh, so you're a tranny, a cuck, and gay at the same time>...>You want to get fucked in the ass by farm animals tooWhy are minorities like this?
>>5855491203% haste is huge, and their flying ability is a lot of fun.
>>585549217nta but do mages ever wand?
>>585549257It's clearly shaman, but rogues are also dead from neglect
>>585549257shaman was fucking destroyed
>>585549325yes
>>585549103Tauren Druids will be fine with warstomp still being the best racial for Druids in the game, the skelf racial for horde is turbo dogshit unless you’re a warrior or rogue but if you’re not rolling troll for horde warrior you’re fucking retarded.
>>585549325frequently
>>585549275>I play with dolls and dress them BUT I AM NOT GAY!!!!!!
will guys still flirt with me if i play a femdead priest
>>585548565Ruins of Lordaeron: Atmospheric, but honestly kinda drab. It's a messy little patrol through an outdoors area filled with zombos, but it's also very easy for the most part, so it's a decent equivalent to RFC. Halls of Thanes: I like it more as a gameplay dungeon than RoL, to the point that I'd put it closer to SFK in terms of execution. It's very simple navigation, though, and IF your party knows what they're doing, it feels like a very fast dungeon, ala Stocks.Wetlands Expedition: Made for First Aid learners. It's a better outdoors dungeon than RoL in terms of navigation, but it's also a very drastic "do you have the means to handle Disease + Poison?" check. Decent enough gameplay dungeon, but definitely more of a build-up for future storylines set piece.Dalaran: It gives off more of the feel of a TBC dungeon, but that's not a bad thing. More testing the waters of hidden bosses that RoL introduced, which is fun. I don't remember if it was tested, but I think it'd be a really cool dungeon to repeat what SFK does, where if you jump off the castle, you'd get ported outside the instance to the outskirts of SFK, in Silverpine. It really does feel like there will be a 2nd Dalaran dungeon in the future, though.
>>585549257>500+ spellpower needed to equal classic spell damage levelsyeah shaman got utterly raped and gaped on national killroggvision
>>585549257>shaman
>>585549451who else are they gonna flirt with in that nigger faction?
>>585548785Regging half your healthcare in a few seconds is never going to taper off considering the one flaw with a warrior is no self healing
>>585549257technically warrior since they lost they overpowered scaling.next would be mages losing their unofficial hero class status.
for the dad gamers lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcSVXDxCEtY
>>585549520the blue elves also dont say the n word please
>>585549451ya mon
>>585549050I'm being out skilled.>No worgen, vulpera >No ironic races like goblins or murlocs
>>585549520I think both femtrolls and femorcs each have a single attractive face optionplus retail elves are now in the mix and are straight up 2000s britney spears clones
>>585549456Thanks anon. Sounds great. I'm just horribly hyped but also still wanna go in pretty blind.
>>585549451you will need to overcompensate with a super feminine name to make up for the back hunch, visible bones, and rotting flesh. You are no match for skyborne
>>585549459majula... home...
>>585549451I'm maledead priest and both horde fem and alliance sissy beg to suck my healing cock
>>585549405i'm not saying there won't be taurens druids used by good players, i'm saying the population is going to swing wildly in one direction
>>585549569yaysmooooch>>585549607fuck it’s over :’(
>>585549257It's so obviously shaman I'm actually baffled. Like "Who the fuck approved this" tier.
Hunter is going to be so kino.I'm going melee huntard so I can steal all the warrior and paladin weapons
>>585548117warlocks have 36 yd range
>>585549528yeah sorry I meant the passive one specifically, the free bandage is always useful. Though remember that you do get victory rush as well now, so a prot warrior can probably keep up a reasonable amount of healing while solo. The 30s cooldown kind of sucks I guess but I'm not gonna complain too much.
>>585549596You shouldn't have any concerns going in blind for RoL and Dalaran (though if Horde, you will need to do a quest chain to Attune to even enter the dungeon), while HoT is a clear "Do you have eyes and a mind to grasp the mechanics happening in front of you?", and Wetlands is just having the means to handle Disease / Poison for the most part.
>>585549572if you want to be giga niche play a female dwarf roguehave never seen a single one my entire life
>>585549814the disease/poison don't do muchthey were broken when it released but they got nerfed
>>585549854>female dwarfThat triggers a desire to switch my diet to energy and supplement drinks till I pass out and get sent to a mental ward for anorexia.
>>585549758this is based, the true hunter experience is filling your bank with the finest platecuck weaponry
>>585549217says the dumbfuck retard who thinks he will be wanding at all in PvP
Mains and all, we're ALL putting in the work to raise nine 60s of each class, right? You know that bear is going to be seen as a status symbol mount, and leveling nine 60s of each class nets you 27 of the 55. All professions too, that's another 15, which you should just have on toons anyway so you can stop using the auction house for your stuff, since none of us are buying gold this time? Because it just provides the narrative to Blizzard to bring in WoW Tokens for the servers?
>>585550069lol ok mr arcane magehope you have a raid of druids ready to innervate you on callactually braindead
>>585550170>actually braindeadyou don't have to sign your posts here
>>585550170>he doesnt nuke one guy then run away to drink to do it againbasically the old rogues that need prep to win any fight
>>585550270you never played mage for even a minute
>>585549441You're doing the exact same thing, retard.
>>585550170Sheep say what
>>585545219>>585545734asmon is a nigger/jeet in spirt, that why he sucked elons cock harder then his 7 wives ever did.
>>585549257If they fix the spell power weapon tuning before launch (No indication that they are) then shamans.Otherwise rogues and warriors have been pretty neglected outside of prot. You will do decent PvE dps with full raid buffs on bosses with near 0% armor and not be particularly good at anything else.
>tfw you play shaman
>>585550170>>585550328No one ever used a wand during the tournament except in the warlock mirror matches when they both ran out of mana or when they wanted to tap away a shaman totem (damage irrelevant). This is at level 30 when wand damage is actually noticeable too which it wont be at level 60 since scaling drops off bigtime compared to casting spells. You simply do not know or understand anything about WoW PvP and you're some LARPing faggot who takes pride in being confidently wrong. Embarrassing.
>>585550390nice job wasting the mana and cast time on a druid dumbassoh it must not have worked, try casting it again. lets go for a third time. fourth times the charm
>>585548576I'm not homosexual, sorry.
>>585550390>sheeping a druid
>>585550464>tfw dwarf shaman and found it the most enjoyable in the betacease the doom & gloom, you start to believe the worst case scenarios you made up in your head
Reminder that if you have >rare eliteOn your unit frame you are a fag
why is there even a single zoomertard playing this
>>585550469so you just didn't watch the tournament lolI went to a random duel and immediately saw a priest wanding a shamanbut yeah, that 150 (!!!!) armor from those 2 talent points is really valuable anon
>>585550657What spec did you play as dwarfbro?
>>585550847stweamers
>>585550464It's so bad nobody can tell it's actually you who is bad.That's the main selling point.And on the retail you can play as a vulpera
>>585550847FOMO and parasocial relationships with their favorite streamers.
how accurate is this?
>>585550657I'm going enh but it is pretty hard to stay positive when totems will be raid wide and I'll always be pressured into being resto.
>>585550998extremely
>>585550998>femtaur how did it know i was a milf
>>585551084HOLY FUUUUUCCCK!!!!!!!!!
>>585550847Why wouldn’t there be? I like good games
>>585550860Yes a passive reduction in physical damage taken at all times is much more valuable than a negligible wand damage increase that will never get used. You'd know this if you played the game, but you don't, so you read tooltips and make up fantasies in your head.>b-b-but the priest doe!!!!!!!!!!Yeah their win condition is literally to outlast their opponents so spending mana on spells is a worse idea over wanding and keeping dots and renew up. Are you really this fucking retarded?
>>585549103I'd love to be a horde not-tauren druid but skelf racials are embarrassing
>>585551124so first it's only warlocks now it's warlocks and priests. you're making progressjust remember when you're oom (because you're a fucking arcane mage of course you are) and every wand shot you throw that's doing 25% less damage, at least you're mitigating 0.8% damage from that eviscerate that just killed you
>>585550464>tasked with updating ele shaman for wowever>deleted their most iconic spell CL and shifted half of the spec's dps budget into wotlk fire novawhy did they do it
>>585551526>and shifted half of the spec's dps budget into wotlk fire novanot anymore, they gutted fire nova in the last patch so it deals no damage and enh shamans cant hold threat anymore.
>>585551397Yes well done selectively reading and misrepresenting what I said, you're so brave anon. Good luck with your wand spec on launch. I'm sure you'll be making great strides with your fresh take on mage PvP
>>585539229ShamanSkinning+LW>dudeeeeee you are not going to make any gooooolllldddddI make my own gear on first character though to smooth levelling or lv60 BoE and will make enough anyways to go byOptmized gold farming is for alts after the server economy stabilized
>>585551124>>585551775btw since you brought up the dueling tournament, the numbers arent looking good for you armor-kunwhat's that I see? a whopping 2% took the talent? 1/5th the rate of the wand talents?would love to see you try to wiggle out of this one
What's the point of playing shaman now except for being a windfury bot... Are we just forced to be resto...
>dude just have a flint, a stack of wood, and multiple profession items in your bags at all times broThey should have just made the camp objects spells like find minerals. No one wants to dedicate 6+ slots and go farm low level gatherables and shit every 20 hours just to get a slightly worse class buff or rested xp.
>>585549325get out
I want nubile nelf pussy
>>585551842they should let them go in the reagents tab and buff reagent bag slots
>>585551829Are you genuinely this braindead or are you just pretending now? I'd like to know before I waste my time on this 50 IQ post
>>585551840Yeah, we're especially cucked since as enh we don't benifit from our own wf totem so we sacrifice our already bad dps for even less dps.
is there a reason for mages to fish and cook when they can just make their own food and drink
i legit don't know what to play until wowf comes out. i know i shouldnt start any mmos but i want something i can just grind out for until wowf launch
>>585551950this conversations over, maggot shit has more value than you
>>585551840There is none and yes, YOU HAVE TO BE RESTO since literally only 1 Shaman makes sense in a raid, a second shaman literally can't even dump his totem without griefing the raid
Surely the devs will buff shamans before Nov. 4th right? RIGHT!?!?!
>>585552026Yeah indeed, I accept your concession retard. Next time don't make stupid posts and you wont need to be embarrassed.
>>585551842The only ones worth using are fishbowl, skinning crit, and rested xp tent and I wont use a single one of em.
>>585552020cooked food gives you 5% bonus exp
>>585550807You can do that?
>>585551973>we don't benifit from our own wf totemHUUUUUUH
>>585547112He's less undead in the traditional sense and more like how Sylvanas is a banshee puppeting her own corpse, he just does it with magic instead
Shamans will be valuable at lv60The garbage levelling experience and knowing they are literally one of in an entire 40man raid will filter millions.But yep, 100% of lv60 shamans gearing up for raiding will be resto because it's the only serviceable spec they have for it
>>585552080onefifth
>>585552269no class that is actually valuable has to engage in this kind of schizo self-convincing that they are valuable.
>>585551829>picked more than mana shield and magic absorption, almost more than counterspell silence tooso are you saying these are also bad talents then? your argument makes no sense because the talent budget at level 30 means you will focus on other things, btw none of the improved wand pickers made it past the first day
>>585552054no streamer plays shaman so no one with a decent audience to complain about it exists. one of the biggest threads on the wow forum is wanting them to fix ele shaman and get rid of lb and go back to cl, but that was popular before we got the ele tree rework where they doubled down on it. ele shaman will absolute trash that no one wants to play even if the numbers are good since no one wants to press lb, but we got the retard who made lb in charge of the class specs so its what we're getting.they should go back and make totems party wide with a minor bonus raid wide otherwise only resto shamans can ever be viable.
>>585552020You can get Int, and Spellpower fish under 150 skill, if I remember right.
Blizzard removing totem twisting was retarded>but it's too much not intuitive!!!! And you just killed Shaman wholesale by not letting them benefit from their own fucking totems
I'm gonna play PVE so I can play both Horde AND Alliance characters and have fun with lots of friends on all sides.
Ele shaman looks fine to me. Fire nova is fun and the new elemental mastery looks fun too.>but muh simsThere will be a patch.
>>585551526A lot of the changes or designs for a few specs/classes feel like they were made by people that didn't really play or talk to anyone that mained a specific spec/class and just built them around what other people saw from the sidelines. The blatant fear of anything aoe based being good is also hindering class design. They're clearly spooked by the idea of people farming mobs too hard. Be it in the over world or in dungeons for various reasons like gold farming or boosting, and a ton of freedom in class design has taken a hit as a result. Let's not pretend it was JUST because chain lighting could drop people because an ele shaman put in the effort to get to that point.
>>585552458but paladins keep seal twisting and druids keep shifting power, fuck you shaman niggers
>>585552147wf weapon and the totem don't stack so you either drop a totem that does nothing for you, or you use an inferior windfury buff combined with rockbiter or flametongue
>>585552458why did they get rid of totem twisting and keep seal twistingtotem twisting was the better mechanic. literal boomers that want to stare at the screen for 5 seconds while stormstrike comes of cooldown ruined it
>>585552406No, Shaman has some of the most broken party utility in the entire game and Resto is a god tier healer too.The problem is they beyond cucked into benefitting themself from their own spells, both their dps specs are hilariously atrocious and makes no sense to have multiple shamans 99% of the time because they can't twist or overlap totems anymore
>>585552663God forbid you provide support for people in the group other than yourself...
>>585552778Probably because it's just a paladin playstyle at that point even if you try and say it's in a different package. >hit button>get buff for a few seconds>hit button>new buff until the first one is about to wear off>hit first buttonRIVETING fucking gameplay.You have Storm Strike, Maelstrom lightning bolts, flame shock, earth shock when flame shock is up, and fire nova to use in a rotation now, stop being retarded.
>>585552893TrueThis is why Resto is the only lv60 viable spec for Shaman :)Because shaman dropping windfury buff raid -> switch to grace to make windfury buff stronger was clearly too unituintive or unbalanced they needed to kill endgame enhance
>>585552579This wouldn't be an issue if they had actual GMs. Which I don't understand why can't they just contract some NEET who already spends an obscene amount of time in WoW. It would be the most kush contract job ever.>/who in a dungeon>oh wow pingli ping has been farming this dungeon for the past hour or whatever>tp into pingli ping's dungeon>watch as he finishes the grind>ask him if he's a real person>if no response>ban for bot gold farming>if he does give a response>monitor his mail/trade history to see if he's sending a bunch of gold to suspicious level 1 characters>take action as needed
>>585552893>Shaman is a cuck class which exists only to make the game more fun for othersYes, we know
you know you could have just reduced windfury totem's proc rate to 10% and it would become a lot less of a balancing nightmare
>>585552893I don't think its asking for much for the melee dps totem to work well with the melee dps spec that gives it to the group, but it won't matter anyway because the only shaman being brought to raids will be one single resto.
>>585552982>stormstrike (in vanilla)>shock (in vanilla)>...and maelstrom weapon that takes 5 years to stack becasue enh is still a 2h specrivetingsurely cutting the apm of the class in half was a good idea
>>585553245Don't you still need two for grace of air and windfury?
Journey enjoyer bros is it already over for us before the journey even began
would you trust a troll resto shaman for your lvl 60 group?
>>585553319>needNo, GoA isn't going to make up for the spec dealing shit damage just so other classes can deal slightly more damage. You could just make every totem raid wide but windfury and the class would probably be fine. A resto shaman can drop a GoA and a Enh can be in melee with the wf.
>>585552663WF totem and WF on Shaman weapon are different? Or do you mean Shamans weapon gets the Elemental Weapons talent bonus and the totem doesn't. I understand the talent helping but I never knew Weapon and Totem were different. I never played the class also.
>>585553196This did happened to me in another mmo.I was farming some retardly rare drop from world mobs in a zone at like 5am because nothing better to do and after 2 hours in this gm randomly spawn next to me
>>585553537I meant bringing two resto shamans.
>>585553550 Yes, the individual weapon buff is significantly better than the totem buff.
>>585553520The last troll I had in the guild was a faggot Aussie who yapped nonstop and wiped us one too many times because he had 300ms.BAN AUSSIES FROM NA SERVERS!!!
>>585553319You can't in foreverOnly 1(uno) totem per element allowed raidwideIf a shaman drops WF and another drops GoA right after the entire 40 man raid see their windfury buff getting overwritten by GoA
>>585553520No. Tauren only
>>585553550>WF totem and WF on Shaman weapon are different?Yes. WF totem is a shittier version of shamans own WF and they don't stack which means putting down a WF totem hurts the shamans dps since he would much rather have grace of air instead of WF totem and some dog shit like rockbiter.
>>585553520Ya mon.
>>585552474Only real problem I see here is ele being ranged might find keeping a fire totem in ranged a bit annoying, and projecting totems has a minute CD. I wonder if Nova off a flame shock target would be too much, or if it would be too much of a PITA for blizzard to get it where it only activate on one target, like the one you were actively targeting with the debuff. Not sure if that might be undesirable if you wanted to try to nova stuff out of stealth though.Then again it's not THAT hard to just run up to stuff and drop a totem..
>>585553710Shamans can now put down WF and Grace in Forever
What would be a good race and class on the Alliance to represent the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz?
>>585553698>>585553820so which is it
The obvious solution is to just get rid of Windfury totem so it's wholly unique to shamans and tell other melee to get fucked.
So with two shamans in the raid, can the raid benefit from both healing stream totem and mana spring totem?
>>585553854The firstTotem buffa are raidwide auras and you can't twitst them so if you play GoA after WF totem it overwrites WF
>>585553854>Grace of Air Totem is no longer exclusive with Windfury Totem and Flametongue Totem.https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6
>>585553896True, I'd rather enh to just be the windfury class and everyone else didn't get to piggy back off it.
>>585553512Only if you waste your time listening to other people. Your journey is yours to enjoy, bro, along with the people you meet along the path, not those heckling and doomsaying from the stands.
>>585553854The latter, retards clearly don't fucking play shaman, pay attention to changes as they happen, are getting their information off outdate google AI garbage, and used the beta as early access instead of an actual testing hub.Half the people here talking about Shaman are legitimately retarded.
>>585553854Latter.
>>585553974Both are water totem right? No, only 1 totem per element allowed
Youre being very coy with me /wowfg/, but know this, I will have that bussy before the night is through…
>>585553974all water totems are still only party wide i think
>>585553974>>585554157multiple shamans can provide different buffs of the same element so that would work, but i think those totems are still party wide
I will play Shaman because never played itI will figure out the technical stuff on the journey
>>585553896Yeah, windfury totem is dogshit.
>>585553854>https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-15/2360696/6
>>585552826wow that sure was a lot of words describing mental gymnastics no one cares about
>>585554236>Grace of Air Totem, Strength of Earth Totem, Windfury Totem, and Flametongue Totem are now Raid wide.Weird mix but I guess its the ones you always want. You still want mana tide for healer / caster group then.
>remove totem twisting because too complicate>ok this totem cab stack with X bur not with Y, Z is raidwide but W is not and can stack with Y but not with X
>>585554561Another reason resto shaman will be the only shaman.
>>585554623They got rid of it because it fucking sucked as a play style you disingenuous faggot.
I'm a KHHV what class should i play
>>585554679They literally used "too much unintuitive"
>>585554623Ones a knowledge/class mechanic check.Another is a dexterity/APM or skill check.One is more acceptable than the other.
Is it true the best enchants only come from raids? I was going to have a pvp-focused alt with enchanting.
literally all you had to do was cut the mana costs in half and ele would have been a playable spec what the fuck is their problem
>>585554909They said they ruined chain lightning because it was good in pvp.
Why can't you guys ever get this worked up over a class people will actually play. Like the tragedy that is mages.
>>585554895We literally have no idea. We cannot datamine drops until someone in the game has had it drop for them. So we have zero clue if they locked bis enchants behind raid drops.
>>585554691paladin
>>585554909You're going to take 8 points in resto for mindfulness, get spirit on your gear and use lava burst and you're going to like it.
>>585554987oh no the aoe farming bot class can only aoe farm 4 mobs instead of 30 mobs at once, your class is completely unplayable and you will never be invited to raids
>>585554987What is wrong with mages? Don't you fucking dare mention aoe farming.
>>585554987>a class people will actually playMages were one of the least played classes in the beta bro, shaman was like 2nd or third.
Assuming they do make some more balance changes, is there a specific day they might announce them, or are we just waiting to play the game as is on launch while waiting for the inevitable first tweak patch a few weeks later when they have proper data from people playing the game normally and not twinking out at 30.
How much am I gimping myself if I go night elf warr instead of gnome I hate that gnome is so good, I don't want be 2 feet tall
You're all laughing now, but come release enhance and ele shaman will be KINGS!!!
>>585554895there were a couple but most were super low droprate from a specific mobtype in the world or dungeons. i think many were boe though.but i don't think you can assume anything.
>>585554895They usually do, but you will raid for gear anyways and the beer+pretzel dads ensured you can just pug everything ez
>>585555289That was clearly flawed pvp tourney data with people expecting to win 100 grand off big dick windfury procs not knowing Shaman has always been hard countered by warlocks that know how to kill totems.
>>585555297For pve it's not gonna make a difference. For pvp you are pretty gimped aside from being able to sit capture points stealthed as a warrior.
Rogues run this fucking board
>>585555393>That was clearly flawed pvp tourney dataCope. Everyone knew warlocks were going to dominate the tournament and warlocks were the least played class.
>>585555424Where? I can't see them.
>>585555292>twinking out at 30.That tournament sure was a disaster for actual class testing.
>>585555419Escape artist is stupid why is it a 1 min cd I dont want to play a gnome. Fuck!!
>>585555591https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=20589/escape-artistIt's 2min cd on Forever but has added immunity which is insane
>>585549257People say shaman but shaman were nothing but support in ol vanilla too. They were always just losers anywayThe most raped by far is mage and warrior. Warrior went from the best class in the game to below middle of the pack. Mage went from AOE god PvP god gold making god leveling god to, pretty ok
>>585555424With all the forever talk, it's nice to be reminded that rogues even still exist. Literally every other class has had some kind of drama, something to whine about or wish for, rogues have barely even been acknowledged.
Do totem stomping macros exist in forever. I thought they tried to stop them at some point ages ago, but I guess you never know with blizzard potentially not back porting that kind of thing.
I am unsure what is better for rolling a mage, Skyborn Haste seems to be the strongest PVE modifier but they don't have any useful racial for PVP, Humans have that and the crit chance is nice too. I refuse to play Gnome. What say you, humie or smurf elf?
>>585553824Night Elf Warrior.Undead Paladin (IF I ONLY HAD A BRAIN) would be best but you said Alliance so eh
>>585555292Shamans can only win babyNone of their specs can get more nerfed than they are alreadythey will nerf Riptide
>>585549275Every guy I’ve interacted with IRL that plays wow with a female character has always been a fucking incel or teenager thinking killing people with a female was salt in the wound. I don’t buy for a single second the “i wanna look at an attractive ass” excuse the incels use.
>>585555730On the other hand, at least prot warrior seems really nice to level with. I don't know what the healer situation is like but maybe I can get groups together fast if I just tank them all myself.
>>585545219no way people jerk it to this shit, i burst out laughing when I saw this
>>585555591Your hatred of frost mages must be stronger than your hatred for gnomes.
>>585555745Ley Line mana regen is good for pvpGliding is good for pvpHaste is ok for pvp it reduces your Gcd a bit
>>585540271not so much safe as a different subspecies of troon
>2 more days for name reserve>then 8 more days for launchsomeone put me in a coma for 10 days fuckthey should have kept beta up until Nov 1st with level 40 cap and then immediately put up name reserves for 2nd-3rd and then launched.
>>585555896If i have to play a gnome for warrior pvp then I'd rather just play another class
>>585555991They should have let beta hit 60Lv60 will be funky as fuck the first month
>>585555942gliders are already confirmed in the gameleyline is sort of a memeand 2% crit matters a lot more than haste in pvp, especially since you wont be white hitting in pvp very much and the gcd is minimal
>>585555991Get some nyquil, turn off the heat if it's cooling off where you're at, double up on blanket layers for your bed so it's nice and heavy, and sleep for 24 hours a day evert other day for the next week.
>>585554987>>585555097>>585555118this is all blizzard's fault for leaving aoe farming untouched for so long since '19 classicnow that mages are actually in a garbage spot (don't you fucking dare) in BOTH pvp and pve nobody wants to see any fixes bc they'll be forever hated for being the favorite class of the previous dev teamyou ppl keep saying there's nothing wrong but i bet you didn't even level up a Mage to 30, they feel like a class for a different game where combat isn't solved in short 10s bursts, specially in PvE, just leveling them without any kind of AoE is fucking aids
>>585554310You won't even reach lvl 40.
>>585553824human demonology warlock standing alone at stables in ABelixir of giant growth to be extra intimidating
>>585555563>raping the fuck out of Penance because of the tourneyThis stupid fucking nerf seriously changed how launch is going to play out. a lot of Priests planned on leveling as Disc because they'd have Penance to help them kill mobs quickly but at the same time still be a real healer spec for dungeons.But now Penance is fucked so way less people are rolling Priest and the few that do are gonna be leveling shadow. Blizzard successfully eliminated a massive amount of potential dungeon healers from the player pool all because of a fuckass streamer event.
>>585556139I think i will
>>585556092>now that mages are actually in a garbage spot (don't you fucking dare) in BOTH pvp and pveyou still do stupid fucking damage and massively crit people shattering them or pom pyroing them, you're fine holy fuck. your class isnt garbage because you can't do all that ontop of being able to aoe farm an entire map or dungeon by yourself.
>>585556092Endgame pvp is going to be mostly battlegrounds and mages will be a fucking menace when they have healers and frontline to hide behind.
>>585556243>Blizzard successfully eliminated a massive amount of potential dungeon healers from the player pool all because of a fuckass streamer event.>sickos.pngas a non priest hybrid I can only feel good about this
Anyone else scared to invest time/play this game due to the risk of randomly getting banned because you have made other accounts in the past, or perhaps you say the wrong thing in chat and get reported?Or is this just mental illness. Trying mindfulness and living in the moment but not sure it is working.
>>585556243Ask the shammy to put on the dress.I will surely be full of shammy on launch
>>585556398real schizo shit
>>585553985>>585553820>>585554410You're misinterpreting the patch notes. In the original beta implementation, WF and grace of air did not stack even if 2 shaman dropped them. This patch makes them stack if 2 shaman drop them but you can still only have 1 air totem.
How fucked are rogues?
>>58555639890% of the time I want to say something funny in general chat im imagining some blue hair HR bitch banning me and I have to delete it
>>585556514This anon is correct. They are both wind totems so every raid will want 2 shaman minimum because both those buffs are insane.
>>585556514It was a necessary change to avoid the situation of literally only 1 shaman in an entire 40 man raid allowed
>>585542436this set would go kinda hard if they got rid of all the crystals
>Pandaria returns>BUT because they said no Retail Races, you don't enlist the Pandaren>you instead either get to play Hozen or Jinyu on Horde/Alliance respectivelyHow would you react?
>>585556646This, but also seeing trannys spam in general chat how much they like to groom kids or how much they want to murder trump and they dont get banned.
>>585556092>leveling mage without aoe is cancerNah, just nah. It was the easiest class to play on HC speccing single target because you get mega slows and frostbite freezes. I solo'd every single elite quest doing this.
>>585556775I'd be mad but only because I don't want new continents dividing the player base. It will just be retail again.
>>585556398No one has ever received a perma for speech. People were saying kill all migrants and using the nigger word in trade chat on alliance in the beta all over the place. I still sometimes drop the nigger word in overwatch. Never once been banned in all my years on WoW or even 24hr muted.
>devs said they intentionally turned off a bunch of level 1-30 stuff during beta to keep is secret for launch>TRANSLATION: the devs fucked up and forgot to enable some stuff so they are gonna pretend they where saving it for launch
ChagGPT:Troll Orc or Tauren Shaman?Pros and cons of each choice
>>585557015Want a real answer? Go Orc. They have better overall racials for both pve and especially pvp. Shaman also has no hard CC so Troll will never be able to use their regen active in pvp.
>>585557015Troll shaman is the coolest if you like the voodoo.Orc shaman is THE shaman race and probably looks the best in shaman gear.Tauren shaman is the pvp choice with warstomp into busting a hot load on a nigga.
>>585557014Why would they blow their load early? I think they're telling the truth, they also have some things planned for a year from now I can see a new class or something being added, they want to stagger things
vgh im bored can we fastforward to release?
>>585555297Im going nelf. Gnome racials are good but i'm not willing to sacrifice everything just for escape artist and I think NE racials are kinda good, 10% crit is really nice, and shadowmeld being able to dodge a spell is kinda good, I only wish they had more speed movement bonuses or dodge instead of the meager 1% and 2%, but hey at least we are not dwarves. Man, those dwarve racials are criminal
>>585557126>earthbind talent>frost shock >ghost wolf Erm...
>>585557143>they also have some things planned for a year from nowBro they didn't even have SD models for skelves ready for beta despite the old blood elf model existing for 2 decades. a lot of shit about Forever is rushed as fuck.
>>585556879What if it's 1-30 leveling zones FOR the Pandaren races to start at, and there's only really a raid to visit for endgame?
>>585557185>shadowmeld being able to dodge a spell is kinda good,it doesnt do that in pve or pvp, it just drops threat in pve
>>585555697>they added 3s immunityoh god why
>>585557015Orcs is a good generalist and classic go to for a lot of horde races and the 3 minute CD on blood fury lines up with enhance+ele capstone now. Troll zerking CD lines up with dps capstones and earth bind root in the elemental tree sets up CC for you to try and get the regenerate channel off Tauren are good generalists now too, plains running will offset the running around until you get ghost wolf, and war stomp despite how brief it is can save your ass at times. Just pick what you think looks the best.
no way some retard thought he could drop two totems of the same element at the same time
>>585557226none of those are hard CC and anyone with a ranged ability can interrupt your bandage racial unless you happen to have a wall to hide behind
>>585557226Now explain for the class how any of that stuff lets you pull off the troll racial
>>585557226snares and roots are not hard cc, genius
>>585557274nta, it doesn't dodge a spell en route but it can interrupt a cast. in combat and a mage is casting sheep, intercept still has 2s left on cooldown? shadowmeld bitch!
>>585557302yeah, and regeneration is only a freebie if you're 1v1 open world and don't get interrupted. In BGs anyone with a brain is going to be on your ass if you're a mage or warlock
Journey Enjoyer bros we're eating good
>>585557296you could in classic
>>585557450If you pick troll shaman you won't even be able to use it in a 1v1
>>585557472weaving doesnt count
>>585557302Walls and corners are all over the place especially if you can use ghost wolf everywhere, even if you can't get the full cast off you still get a bunch of health back
>>585557293Plainsrunning having passive always on 3% mount speed is busted as fuck for gatheringCultivation on 15 minutes cd can unironically now make a new player decent silvers for the skills at the very leastMore HP than other races is great too
>>585557014I doubt there is much. I mean there is some profession stuff still not in (ring enchants, belt buckles, lw bracer kits, alchemist mixology, a recipe vendor in gnomer which has a bunch of blue/epic 225 recipes, etc) and then what the other digsite thing that horde discovered in wetlands dungeon? Maybe they will add in the Epoch Goldshire and Razor Hill, but I doubt it. And then we have breaking into Gilneas and that one other zone that had instakill enemies spawn on you. But nothing else really seems like it will be much different.
Does going alch give any perks? Moving potions to first aid was retarded.
>>585557532>it doesn't count because uhhhh it just doesnt okay!?retard, especially retarded when they made seal twisting an official mechanic with paladin.
>>585557450There's so much going on in BGs, you are delusional if you think people see everything and instantly hit your channeled spells in the chaos of a battle
>>585557605>ring enchants, belt buckles, lw bracer kits, alchemist mixologyNONE OF THIS SHIT IS IN THE GAMEAI SLOP LITERALLY MADE IT UP AFTER WE SAW THE BLIZZCON DEMO
>>585557702It was datamined in September when we were getting the leaks tho
>>585557612I believe you get better bonuses from flasks and elixirs, so it's mainly going to be noticeable later on unless elixirs become easier to get and maintain while leveling. I was gonna go alch thinking those new throwable potions might have been alch only, but it seems those can be used by anyone.
>>585557684If you are in a situation where you are hurt enough in a bg to want to heal with regen you likely have people on your ass already or have already left combat and have better ways to heal anyway.
>>585557778It was NOT datamined. People made AI slop websites that pulled random shit from different versions of WoW and claimed it was in Forever. We have ZERO PROOF that any of that shit is in the game.
>>585557778nta but if that was true, which it isn't, then it would of been in the beta, which it wasn't.it's not difficult to put 5% bonus hp when you have mining or any of that other basic shit. its not in the game because it's not coming.
>>585548894To counter the trooned out look
finished with prot warrior
How grim, just when you thought Blizzard couldn't be any more retarded
>>585557975What is actually wrong with you? Why is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING EVERYTHING "troon" to you?
>>585557648buff isint the same as the totemsorry not sorry you are simply wrong
>>585558036The hair is what erks me. You can tell they let the retail team make the hair. It's just so unbelievably gay.
>>585557014i get the feeling they're crunching pretty hard for launch
>wow forever>your forever home>except dungeons and raids will be tuned so easy you clear week one>you cant even add a hard mode without the very adult and very serious dadgamers pissing and shitting their pants out of fomo
>>585558313It'd be funny if they weren't expecting near the level of interest the game got and are now in a panic internally.
>>585557702literally on Wowhead, bud.
>>585558315Just play retail?
>>585558505yeah on the retail tab lil gup.
>>585550998Not very.Everyone is either a tryhard or crybaby
high order lore seems cooler than windshaper lore. am i missing something or is horde shafted on both racials and lore for skelves?
>>585558520no, you go to era
>>585558553https://www.wowhead.com/forever/item=249504/formula-enchant-necklace-agilitynice try, your programmer socks might be on too tight.
>can now finally play undead paladin and roleplay as a human-hating religious fanatic zealot, like a Scarlet Crusade but for Forsaken that despise filthy hummieskino alert
>>585558065Fine, fine, body type a head on body type b body looks really silly.
>>585558646They invested everything into the undead paladin stuff which means we aren't allowed to complain.
It's obvious that alliance were getting high elves, and horde were getting blue skyborne, so why did they bitch out and combine them?
>>585558646They should have just given horde some weird ass possibly upright sky trolls or something. Say the elves that were more in tune with the elementals slowly shed a lot of the arcane influence from the well of eternity and functionally devolved over generations, and elves and trolls naturally hating each other is why there's two different factions in the sky.
>>585548894Because modern Blizzard is incapable of reading the room and are solely beholden to their jewish shareholders.
>>585558809metzen meddling
Peoplr call me schizo for worrying about a ban but how can you place so much enjoyment and time into something that can be taken away?You all think having an inner-monolouge is a priviledge or high IQ but really it is just a curse. I worry and spend all day having to work out the risk of unhapiness before engaging with any activity to protect my psyche. Goyim will never understand.
>>585558683>religious fanatic zealot, like a Scarlet Crusade>Not wanting to be murdered and then cannibalized by a demonic zombie makes you a "fanatic" and "religious zealot."Fucking hell.
>>585558890the kind of people who consider time in wow an investment are exactly the kind of morons who buy gold and put their account at risk
>>585558890Probably because if you were going to be banned it would have happened by now, unless the reality of the situation is you did naughty things on those other accounts and are afraid it's going to come back and bite you on the ass on your main. You're not hiding some secret that actually warrants this paranoia are you, anon? You're not actually a trouble maker, are you?
Does weakauras work in Forever?
>>585558890Everything is temporal. Getting banned it just an earlier release.
>>585559037nyo
>>585558890Just dont buy gold? Why are you worrying, schizo?
>>585559070FUCK
>>585559037I think they have some alternative mod under another name with a few features removed to stay compliant. I never really fell into using weak auras for everything though so I don't remember its name.
>>585559349me except nelf
>>585558890Give it a month and everyone will be openly gold buying with no bans in sight whilst streamers get a tap on the wrist.
>>585559349person with estrogen prescription pov
>>585559028I may have sold the accounts to buy a half oz of weed.
>>585559349i dont get it
>>585559274I liked using WA for health bars, I'll have to find the alternative mod
>>585558989>>585559125Never brought gold. Just sold a few accounts and had a bot running once. This was 10+ years ago tho on different accounts. My current one is clean and never done anything remotely against TOS, but I still worry.I also suffer from serious rumination and anxiety issues. I took 2mg of lorazepam yesterday but it did nothing to fix this worry.
Holy paladin is forever a shockadin tree and we are to accept that because Aggrend wants to fuck Esfand.
>>585559534https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/foreverauras
>>585559349Imagine getting healed by this tsundere resto druid skelf. "You know what you need to do in order to get healed, right?"
>>585559630Oh then you're 100% fine lol
>>585558890if you were actually high IQ you wouldn't worry about a ban because it's basically impossible to get wrongfully banned. if you're doing something ban-worthy while being afraid of a ban, you're a fucking drooling moron because you can't reconcile your actions with their consequences. smart people either know the risks and take the actions despite them, or don't ever take them to begin with. not this halfway ah-bloo-bloo baby shit you're on. and you have the audacity to look down on anybody with that mindset? keep huffing your own farts, faggot lmfao
we really need housing in wow forever
>>585559652thanks.
>>585546723haha how did she end up like that
>>585559864non instanced housing destructible by the other faction
>>585558890I had the same worries when I was 16-21 years old. I always thought "what if" first of all, it's great that you deeply love that game, second: it's just a fucking game, you can always start over, it's just pixels. Unironically you are the goy for living in fear of getting your digital life taken away.
why did he do it?
>>585559847I hope anonkin>>585559851I haven't done anything ban worthy on my account tho, and false bans do happen. I wish I couls be as nullified as you and just slide through life with complete unawareness.
>>585558668That is a neck enchant everyone can use. Not enchanter exclusive ring enchants.
>>585560059Voice in the back of his head said it would be funny.
>>585560074If there's one thing I know, it's blizzad. You're fine dude.
>>585559998Yes it is a deep love. It's like a second where I can meet people and use magic. But like a real home, I fear the pain that could come from having that taken away from me unexpectedly. Its a constant fear I am on guard about.My family divorced and split up when I was 2 btw. Might be related
>>585560059To own the high elves, duh.
>>585538319Here's troll warriorhttps://x.com/TheButtsoap/status/2113815838037831817?s=20
Can I play Druid cat form the same as I would a rogue? I kind of want to try Druid.
>>585538319warlock undead is better
now that the dust has settled im going to play a priest
Warmode would easily solve the world pvp issue.The only people who are against warmode are bads who are afraid they're going to meet actual wpvp skilled and prepared players and that they won't be able to gank undergeared lowbies without any consequence.
>>585558315I'm the hardest pink parsing nigger you've ever seen and even I hope Forever wow is a game where I can just log in and hang out. Zero stress type deal.
>>585560309I want to do the same but idk
>>585560254yeah bro just go for a full set of gimmick spirit gear what could go wrong
>>585560309sorta but in order to get the most value out of your class you should be exiting form/going into bear/cheetah for various reasons
>>585560309i mean not really, a cat has maybe 1/4th of the toolset of a rogueironically in forever they gave the shadowstep equivalent to druids instead of rogues lol and its just a base level 20 spell
>>585560309only reason to leave cat form is to combat ress someone of throw your healer innervate for mana regenthis is for pvein pvp you will have to switch forms
>>585560309Nyeso, your stealth applications are severely limited in comparison, and you rely on bear form for a lot of stuff outside of group content as if it were more like a different stance. Otherwise Cat in a vacuum does play like a rogue spec in the mechanical rotation sense but is a little more focused on the DoT damage.
>>585560375just to be clear, your position is that content needs to be removed from others so you dont feel stress?
>>585558315nah they'll fuck up raid balance on the 2nd set of raids and gamer dads will lose their mind when they're wiping to lucifron like it's 2005
>>585558315forever will be the best game to play between poe seasons
>>585560375That won't happen because the second AQ and Naxx roll around, dad gamers will be walled and will start looking for top meta specs as usual. Your dwarf bro dad gamer shaman doing 300 DPS in full AQ40 gear will screech and seethe hard he's not allowed to play Ele in Naxx
>>585560354true
>>585560597My position is that there are plenty of games and even wow-types that are hardcore prog experiences and we do not have a chill game to hang out and relax.
>>585560661arpgs have never clicked with me. just zooming across a zone and blowing up mobs to sort through a bunch of useless drops for that 1% good item does not seem interesting to me. is poe2 gonna be different from this?
How chaotic y'all think launch day will be?
>>585560354what world pvp issue? You just don't play on the pvp server if you don't want world pvp
>>585560830Thanks to Mega Server Super Layering(tm) it will mostly be fine
>>585560830I remember seeing a dead elwynn general chat during the stress test, layering really changes thingsI hope there's at least SOME chaos..
>>585560830doubt it will feel any worse than the stress test
>>585560074brother I have been playing WoW since 2005. I have had multiple accounts. none of them have ever gotten banned. the only thing I ever received was a single warning(not even a suspension/chat ban) for a crashout in a BG. none of the dozens of people I've been friends with over the years have been banned either. I'm sure false bans happen, but they're legit 1 in a million occurrences and if you're worrying about something that statistically improbable you're not smart, just a paranoid wreck.
>>585560309i guess it's similar for pure pve dps. you also use this instead of powershifting.but cat has much fewer utility abilities so completely different in pvp.
>late autumn>cold and pretty outside>took a few days off work from the 5th to the 9th>will be binging WoW Forever, levelling my tauren resto druid>rolling on the RP realmset to avoid streamercancer, minmax virgin sweatlord cancer and trannycancer>got my cocoa and blanket ready, with snacks>NOBODY is going to ruin this experience
>>585560354nobody is litigating this discussion againwarmode carebears lost
Brownie BVLLS will top the dps charts at 60. We will also be sissfiying and bimbofying all paladins into wearing the dress.
>>585560928Hear hear!!Me, an ex-PvPChad, am too weary of being corpse camped 24/7 in every single zone and am retiring to the PvE server where i can finally hand in 30 wolf arses in peace for the next 300 hours
>>585561072I am.Only bads are against warmode. Prove me wrong (protip: you can't).
>>585560996Ok how do I stop being a paranoid wreck so I can enjoy the game?
>>585561028>>rolling on the RP realmset to avoid streamercancer, minmax virgin sweatlord cancer and trannycancerThis might be a good idea. I'm still unsure if I should play on PvE or RP server.
>>585561150I'm not doing that*kisses you*
>>585560786how does the implementation of some kind of hard mode in forever interfere with your ability to hang out and relax, if that is what you want to do in the game?
>>585560830Stress test was fine.Only downside was I could see my friend from other layer only after the "world adjustment".
>>585559349>>585559510>>585559576How do I acquire such a gf?
>>585561150War mode on retail gives you 10% buffs to WQs, exp, and war mode specific supply drops and a weekly quest. None of those exist in forever so there would be no reason to ever turn war mode on
>>585561337reach rank 14, nice post number btwhttps://youtu.be/eeq8JXaTv4s?si=rRn6-9P56ctdEjPJ
>>585561218You can still do speedruns and play hardcore realms or for real play mythic raids on retail (the only good thing about retoilet)
>>585560431retard
>>585561150It's actually better to have separate PVP and PVE servers because it means we don't have to deal with the PVP chuds at all.
>>585560354the point of wpvp is to grief and gank the other faction and you will never convince me otherwise. if people could opt out of it they would, but in the past people rolled on pvp servers in order to be on the most active servers with the biggest communities.
New private server droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t-DsGm0rlc
>>585561218because hed feel compelled to do the hard content to feel like he “beat” the game a huge chunk of the population that plays not retail has the same mentality
>>585559998nta but i watched people get banned for bug abusing in legion and was so grateful i didnt abuse (even though some of the bans were only 6 months) because if I got perma'd back then when i cared about retail and i had my account since 2006 and I spent months of my life getting TLPD and years getting Invincible/Ashes I would have killed myself.Now? I dont even give a shit about my retail account. But if Forever does last a long time and it's 2036 and I have a bunch of shit that was a long/hard grind to achieve and maybe some of the items were FOMO that you can never get again, I would be so scared of having my account banned again. Then again, I dont cheat and I've never seen anyone eat a perma for being a meanie (plus the societal pendulum is swinging back hard) so I dont really have anything to worry about.
>>585561496looking for an argument in this post and I find none
>>585561218This is the crucial point that casuals dont like admitting. They are completely ruled by their FOMO and realize it makes them look silly, so they are cagey about it discussions like this.
>>585561001I still don't know if I dislike this or not, but I guess I shouldn't jump to conclusions to soon. I really liked tiger's fury and managing that properly with rip/rake, but at least it's an actual skill.
Is using this the certifcate DADGAMER addon installation method?
>>585561153I'm not a shrink so all I can really suggest is to keep in mind that YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE BANNED FOR NO REASON. say it as many times as you have to, hell, make it a daily affirmation. if you've got legit issues though that'll only go so far, it's not easy to out-logic your own emotions/conditions. hope you find peace of mind somehow anon
>>585560830Stress test had no queues and I only dc'd once, but I honestly have no idea. Launch is always fucked on day 1, probably because 20 million chinese bots are logging in all at once.
>>585561485telling me to go to retail doesnt answer my question about forever
>>585560830it probably won't be that much because of sharting
DAAAAMMNNN I look sick!
>beta runs fine, but sharding is annoying>stress test comes out>sharding still exists between zones which sucks, but layers feel a bit stickier instead of refreshing every 30 seconds like day 1 beta>but now mobs and even other players are just invisible sometimes and it even happened on last day of beta with the world bosses as if layers were halfway merging togetherWhatever happens it's sure to be kind of shit. I really hope they figure out the sharding shit, but I just think it's a consequence of megaservers and their architecture and it will never be solved and that will fucking suck complete cock. I hate seeing people running into my zone and just disappearing in my face.
>>585561857I think taking advantage of all the versions of wow (or even different games) we have available is much wiser than expect Forever to fulfill every desire.
>>585561968wolfhead helm is useless now
>>585561734No it's this https://wowup.io/
>>585562081i am not clicking your dolphin porn
>>585561218I hope they just do what they did with SoD where you get speshul enchants like the bloody dancing steel in MoP or the draconic whatever the fuck items in SoD. Hard modes for pure cosmetic purposes and bragging rights.
>>585562123Enjoy your bloatware then.
>>585562035differentiated modes have been a staple in wow since 2007 or whatever, so why is it not reasonable to add them in forever? i have yet to see coherent argument for why not. everyone gets what they want by the addition of hard mode, so what is the argument against it?
>>585561153Take your meds
>level all day>two separate toons, one solo the other with friends, will probably still hit 60 in time for raidsGod it's never been a better time to be a NEET
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is it so hard to unzip into adoon folder yourself....
>>585562294no, but its way easier to update addons
>>585561840But this can't be ensured, regardless of how many times I say it.
>>585562224>so what is the argument against it?The argument against it that it makes casuals feel bad they cant clear it. It is ultimately not more complicated than that. Classic casuals want to be able to log in once a week, swipe for consumes and play a raid that is over in exactly 90mins, while having a chance at the best gear in the game. This is what they want, and you have no right to compromise that by adding any other kind of content. Their need to not feel stress or FOMO is more important than your desire for varied or other types of content.
>>585561587>>585561218>>585561673or maybe people just don't want every conversation to be about some bullshit they don't care about. same with how people don't want politics or streamers or dei in their game. because you autists are boring and insufferable. but forever has all of that so good luck with that.
>>585562639Are you genuienly retarded?
>>585537298hunter or druid for my wow forever main?
>>585563302yes i am thank u for noticing :^)
